Speaker 1: It's a nice size.
Speaker 2: Dan Ray undoing Mazie Boston's News Radio.
Speaker 3: Well, we just finished a very interesting hour with the
Speaker 3: Israel's Consul general to New England, newly designated it has
Speaker 3: only been here six months, Benjamin Benny SHARONI and I
Speaker 3: thought if you listened to the last hour, you would
Speaker 3: have gotten a really good insight into how the government
Speaker 3: of Israel sees the situation as of today on the
Speaker 3: ground of the Middle East. Obviously, the Diplomatic Corps speaks
Speaker 3: consistently with the government. And I've got a couple of
Speaker 3: callers who would like to continue to talk about the
Speaker 3: Middle East. And as I have often said, and I
Speaker 3: will continue to say, my audience is the one that
Speaker 3: dictates the issues. So we can talk about this, and
Speaker 3: if this doesn't interest you sufficiently, we can go back
Speaker 3: to the questions of earlier tonight. I don't don't want
Speaker 3: to mix the two topics, to be honest with you,
Speaker 3: I'd like to stay on the Middle East.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: And when we exhaust that, we can go back to
Speaker 3: the efforts by ICE in several American major American cities,
Speaker 3: including Boston, to round up h illegal aliens who for
Speaker 3: whom there are warrants and known gang members and which
Speaker 3: which we covered in the nine o'clock hour with Boston
Speaker 3: City Council and Flynn. Let me start this hour off
Speaker 3: with my friend Jack and Newton. Jack, I got your
Speaker 3: email today. I'm very sorry that you had that experience.
Speaker 3: Let's let's leave that for another conversation. Let's talk Middle
Speaker 3: East on Jack reporter.
Speaker 5: Uh, the Palestinians have had an opportunity to have a
Speaker 5: stay going back forty years with Clinton and then later
Speaker 5: with the Barack and they just well, I have they
Speaker 5: wanted the whole pie and now they have no pie.
Speaker 5: You know, they wanted everything you want people to return.
Speaker 5: They wanted all of is whatever. If they had just
Speaker 5: taken part of the not part of taking the West
Speaker 5: Bank and Gaza forty years ago, they would have had
Speaker 5: a state, but they would have had to keep it
Speaker 5: a state and not be allowed to be taken over
Speaker 5: by extremists. Now, if you asked me, I'm very pessimistic
Speaker 5: about a Palestinian state for two reasons. One, again, they're
Speaker 5: going to be very stupid. They want everything, you know
Speaker 5: what I mean, go compromises. And also, Israel is facing
Speaker 5: the fact that Hamas and their groups are taking over
Speaker 5: the West Bank. This is a very serious situation because
Speaker 5: they have a very weak, sclerotic leadership. The Palestinians corrupt.
Speaker 5: They could have had a state many times over, and
Speaker 5: they blew it.
Speaker 3: Jack blew it. On this one. You and I are
Speaker 3: singing from the same page. The other thing which I
Speaker 3: don't think most Americans understand is that the physical dimension
Speaker 3: of the state of Israel is very similar, both in
Speaker 3: terms of its length and its width, and the state
Speaker 3: of New Jersey. It would be like saying to New Jersey,
Speaker 3: we want you to give up part of your state
Speaker 3: and so that the Palestinians can move in there, or
Speaker 3: that the people from the Bronx can move in there.
Speaker 3: I just think that, you know, there's so much land
Speaker 3: in the Middle East, and there's so many places that
Speaker 3: Hamas could relocate their proximity to Israel. Obviously, if if
Speaker 3: Hamas was not proximate to Israel, they never would have
Speaker 3: been able to have launched the attack on October seventh.
Speaker 3: And if I'm an Israeli, you know, diplomat, why would
Speaker 3: I even want to consider a two state solution within
Speaker 3: the geographical confluence of Israel.
Speaker 5: If I could respond to that. I think I would, respectfully,
Speaker 5: you know, disagree with you. I think that the West
Speaker 5: Bank from Name down to Hebron and below you could
Speaker 5: have a Palestinian state. You could have one. The problem
Speaker 5: is there's so many settlements that you'd have to cut
Speaker 5: it out and be like a cookie cutter. It can
Speaker 5: be very difficult. When they talk about a land swap.
Speaker 5: The Palestinians will have certain land, but they'll have the settlements,
Speaker 5: will have to move somewhere else. Look at the movement
Speaker 5: that we could since nineteen seventy six specifically wanted to
Speaker 5: put those settlements to destroy the.
Speaker 6: Possibility of a Palestinian state.
Speaker 5: And that's a given. They made the settlements, so many settlements,
Speaker 5: half a million settlers there. That's going to be very difficult.
Speaker 5: But there is the land. The land is there, and
Speaker 5: now with Gaza, which could be rebuilt into a beautiful country.
Speaker 5: I don't take decades, but you have the land there.
Speaker 5: The question is you know, is there the will to
Speaker 5: do it and will not will harm us and other
Speaker 5: take over from the moderate telestiions. That's a very serious shoe.
Speaker 3: Well, I will only say three three words to you
Speaker 3: on that, or four words the past is prologue. We've
Speaker 3: seen that movie before, Jack, in my opinion, all right,
Speaker 3: thanks for you calling my friend. Be Well, I'm sorry
Speaker 3: about that experience you you wrote to me about today
Speaker 3: that that had.
Speaker 6: To be we'll talk about.
Speaker 3: We'll talk about another time. Okay, thank you to Let
Speaker 3: me go to David san Antonio. Dave, you had a
Speaker 3: big event in San Antonio today with seven police officers shot.
Speaker 3: If I, if I listened to the evening news correctly,
Speaker 3: I hope that was nowhere near where you live.
Speaker 4: It wasn't, but uh, I was near where my daughter work,
Speaker 4: and UH worry about her job. But I with the
Speaker 4: issue today, I I I don't think there's a solution.
Speaker 4: The only solution is to settle it one way or
Speaker 4: another by winning or losing. I mean, it's if we
Speaker 4: experience it right here in America. If you're Jewish or
Speaker 4: even of Jewish heritage like me. I'm Catholic, but my
Speaker 4: father was a Jew and by that side of my
Speaker 4: family are Jewish. And when they when living in Detroit
Speaker 4: and that neighborhood on seven miles, found out with a mosque,
Speaker 4: found out that I was of Jewish heritage. My daughter
Speaker 4: was delivering their newspaper two hundred houses she delivered on
Speaker 4: that's on seven miles and they were down at the
Speaker 4: Detroit News distributorship saying, take that little jew, go off
Speaker 4: that news rap up. We're going at killer.
Speaker 3: Okay again, Dave, you know, I understand the trauma of that,
Speaker 3: but I just think that that that's not going to
Speaker 3: be helpful for the conversation tonight. That's all I mean. Again,
Speaker 3: if you want to talk about what's going on in.
Speaker 4: The Middle East, the hostilities, the hostilities are worldwide, is
Speaker 4: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: Look, I understand there are bad people. Understand there are
Speaker 3: bad people on both sides. Okay, but again, you're telling
Speaker 3: me a story I don't know. I think I know
Speaker 3: you well enough to know that that happened several years ago,
Speaker 3: maybe many years ago. I just I don't want to
Speaker 3: this is This is not a program to ear personal grievances.
Speaker 3: I don't know the story. I know you're a true
Speaker 3: tellent age.
Speaker 4: It's not a personal a grievance. Then, I'm just trying
Speaker 4: to point out that the issue in Israel is worldwide.
Speaker 3: I understand that, I understand that, and as I said,
Speaker 3: I don't think a two state solution is possible either.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying. So I think I think we
Speaker 3: arrive at the same conclusion. I look at it and
Speaker 3: the way I try to explain it to people, And
Speaker 3: I'd love to get your response to this Israel. People
Speaker 3: think of Israel or it must be some big country.
Speaker 3: It's the size of New Jersey. It's surrounded by enemies.
Speaker 3: It's surrounded by enemies. And to say, well, they can
Speaker 3: give away half the country to Palestinians. The problem was,
Speaker 3: you have Gaza, and you have this this horrific stew
Speaker 3: of hatred bubbling up there, and all of a sudden
Speaker 3: one Saturday morning, they said, let's go over into Israel
Speaker 3: and let's kill twelve hundred people, let's kidnap another couple
Speaker 3: one hundred people, and let's just turn the world upside down.
Speaker 3: I don't think you and they were doing it on
Speaker 3: bicycles in mopeds. It wasn't a military and you know
Speaker 3: it was. It was like a gang fight almost, and
Speaker 3: and and that is it can only have occurred because
Speaker 3: of the proximity. I'm agreeing with you in terms of
Speaker 3: how difficult it is to solve this problem. And my
Speaker 3: suggestion to the console general was find a country that
Speaker 3: apparently is happy to have the hootie rebels there and
Speaker 3: uh and half a mass move lock, stock and barrel
Speaker 3: to the Yemen and and see if they can get
Speaker 3: along with the Hooties. Right right, That's that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You were setting me as your neighbors.
Speaker 3: Just no, I understand that. Yeah, No, I get the point,
Speaker 3: and I think that's I think we agree on the point.
Speaker 3: The example that you give me obviously was traumatic for
Speaker 3: your daughter and traumatic for you, But I just would
Speaker 3: rather bring it, bring it out to the top.
Speaker 4: We're trying to out on the examp. Well, just try
Speaker 4: to house the fact that it's worldwide, that attitude towards
Speaker 4: Jewish people, It's not just there.
Speaker 3: Well, you're right, I mean, look, you had, you had
Speaker 3: the programs in Russia going back, you know, decades, centuries. Uh,
Speaker 3: You've you've had Jewish people the experience of the Holocaust.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's happened in different areas of the world,
Speaker 3: and and we've had anti Semitism in this country for
Speaker 3: many years. I don't understand it because wherever Jewish people
Speaker 3: have existed nothing but prosperity, has occurred. I mean, you know,
Speaker 3: why would you not want Jewish people in your community.
Speaker 3: There are a group of people that they're not that
Speaker 3: many of them around the world, but generally there's prosperity.
Speaker 3: Uh And I don't I don't understand it. You know,
Speaker 3: I here in Boston. I grew up in a part
Speaker 3: of Boston which was very close to Mattapan, and it
Speaker 3: was I don't know if you have been in Boston,
Speaker 3: but Bluehill Avenue I remember as a boy it was
Speaker 3: filled with Jewish markets. There were bakeries, and there were
Speaker 3: there were you know, meat markets and stores and it
Speaker 3: was it was wonderful Saturday morning. My dad would take
Speaker 3: us and we would go shopping at these small shops
Speaker 3: and we knew all all these people. I don't understand
Speaker 3: the the the instinctive animis that exists in the world
Speaker 3: towards Jewish people. I don't. And having visited Utts in
Speaker 3: the mid nineteen in nineteen eighty six and won in
Speaker 3: an Emmy Award from my reporting there to everybody in
Speaker 3: the world should visit places like Auschwitz U and every
Speaker 3: student should should have to in American schools learn about
Speaker 3: the Holocaust.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: And and.
Speaker 3: The cost of the cost of World War two. I
Speaker 3: get emotional about this stuff. David. I happen to be
Speaker 3: like you, happen to be Catholic. I was born Catholic.
Speaker 3: You're obviously a convert. But it's uh, it's it's frightening
Speaker 3: to think that that history seems to constantly repeat itself
Speaker 3: against a group of people who have done nothing other
Speaker 3: than you know, create, invent, uh, energize and produce. I
Speaker 3: mean that the most productive group of people in the world.
Speaker 3: I mean, we wouldn't have have won them the race
Speaker 3: to the Moon without scientists. Anyway, I got a run.
Speaker 3: I will talk to you soon, Okay, be well, be well,
Speaker 3: it's good night. Thank you, Dave, appreciate it. We'll take
Speaker 3: a break six one, seven thirty. There's one line there,
Speaker 3: and there's two lines at six one seven nine.
Speaker 6: Uh.
Speaker 3: I'll be happy to talk about this, but again it's
Speaker 3: up to you, you, the audience, decide. We'll be back
Speaker 3: on night Side after this.
Speaker 2: Now back to Dan ray Line from the window World
Speaker 2: night Side Studios on WBZ the news radio.
Speaker 3: Okay, back to the phone. Let me go to Gary
Speaker 3: in New Jersey. Hey, Gary, welcome back, Happy.
Speaker 1: To Jersey and Dan good show tonight. Thank you very
Speaker 1: much yourself.
Speaker 3: We're doing okay. We're doing okay. A few days often
Speaker 3: and feel energized.
Speaker 1: Go ahead at that at our age, that's about pretty good.
Speaker 1: Feel okay. But now with the Palace anything, not having
Speaker 1: any hostages there, I got no skin in the game.
Speaker 1: But after what they did on the seventh at that
Speaker 1: rock concert and all the you know, just everything that
Speaker 1: they did, yep, my feeling if I is an expansion,
Speaker 1: they are never going to be friends with this rad
Speaker 1: And I know there's people there, there's children, screw them,
Speaker 1: get rid of them. I have to watch your back. Yeah,
Speaker 1: And I can't see how you can live like that.
Speaker 1: And well that's a whole bunch of Arab countries opening
Speaker 1: up their doors. Come on, come on over here.
Speaker 3: No no, no, no, no no. And obviously hesbo lah.
Speaker 3: You know, basically Lebanon had been a Christian country. Uh,
Speaker 3: that country was overthrown aside in Syria. He was no friend.
Speaker 3: And just you look at at the Middle East and
Speaker 3: you look at the swaths of land that Israel. You know,
Speaker 3: the Jewish people developed the state of Israel. Israel was
Speaker 3: a desert when they got there. Uh, absolutely it's it's
Speaker 3: unbelievable and productive. Yeah, that's the point. And give the
Speaker 3: Palestinians a parcel of land somewhere. There's plenty of areas
Speaker 3: in Jordans, in Egypt, et cetera. Right, why do they
Speaker 3: have why do they have to live next door? You're
Speaker 3: in New Jersey, Okay.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 3: If you look at a map, truly New Jersey is
Speaker 3: almost identical, not only in shape but in contour. And
Speaker 3: it's similar to It's it's on the Atlantic Ocean as
Speaker 3: opposed to Israel is uh, you know, from from the
Speaker 3: river to the.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: And as an American and I am a Jew, I'm
Speaker 1: a conservative to that practices and all of that. And
Speaker 1: my wife's a Catholic, you know, she practice is very spiritual,
Speaker 1: so you know, but one thing, and like I just said,
Speaker 1: as an American, there are only stable ally in the region,
Speaker 1: So why would we not want them to be as
Speaker 1: secure as possible, especially if things in that region have
Speaker 1: to happen with Iran and any of the other places.
Speaker 3: It ran in Iraq, in Syria and for that matter, Turkey, Libya.
Speaker 3: Libya was a pain in the butt for for decades
Speaker 3: that I know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I know my son did two tours in Iraq.
Speaker 1: He was in the infantry and he got wounded but
Speaker 1: came back fine. But he said one thing and I
Speaker 1: always remembered it, and I used to feel the same way.
Speaker 1: He said, everyone wanted to kill me was a Muslim,
Speaker 1: And you know, that kind of says it all. And
Speaker 1: you know, do something with them, whatever they got to do.
Speaker 1: But Israel needs to be secure to this country state.
Speaker 1: And I just want to say one other thing. All
Speaker 1: those students that were protesting from the river to the sea,
Speaker 1: which most of them didn't know which river or which sea.
Speaker 3: But and by the way, for those who don't, for
Speaker 3: those who don't know, the Jordan River is on one
Speaker 3: side of Israel and on the other side of the
Speaker 3: Israel is the Mediterranean Sea. And that's what they were
Speaker 3: talking about. It was too early. The river to the
Speaker 3: sea means of Israel would be eliminated.
Speaker 1: Absolutely. And you know what I really can't. I mean,
Speaker 1: I grew up in an old Jewish and Italian neighborhood.
Speaker 1: As a matter of fact, in my neighborhood where I
Speaker 1: grew up in New York, you really didn't have to
Speaker 1: speak English long as you could speak Italian or Yiddish.
Speaker 1: We all got it.
Speaker 3: You did have any Irish kidchen, You didn't have any
Speaker 3: Irish kidchen in your neighborhood.
Speaker 1: Guy, we only went over to see the Irish kids, uh,
Speaker 1: with sticks, and they only came to visit us that way. Hey,
Speaker 1: That's how it was. But you know, we got along
Speaker 1: in everything, and I never I never really found any
Speaker 1: anti Semitism. And I've always been in things that are
Speaker 1: not typical the Jews.
Speaker 3: You know, I lived there. I grew up in a
Speaker 3: neighborhood that was predominantly Irish and Italian, and I never
Speaker 3: heard the Old Irish utter any epithet towards Jewish people.
Speaker 3: They highly respected. The Old Irish used to have twenty
Speaker 3: words for Italians, none of which I'd want to repeat
Speaker 3: on the radio. But they revered, Uh, you know the Jewish.
Speaker 3: You know, the grocers and the bakers and the butchers
Speaker 3: on Blue Hill Avenue in Boston and in Matapan.
Speaker 1: When you and I were growing up, things were more
Speaker 1: ethnic than they are today. And I think that's because
Speaker 1: we were all first generation or maybe second generation.
Speaker 3: I also, I also think there's a whole thing to
Speaker 3: the to the to the ladder, meaning you know, the
Speaker 3: first people were here with the Pilgrims, and you know,
Speaker 3: and that was what we call here in New England
Speaker 3: the old Yankees, uh. And they were in the show.
Speaker 3: And then along came my four Beers, the Irish from
Speaker 3: the Potato famine, and they were on the next rung
Speaker 3: of the ladder. And then in came the East. Well
Speaker 3: in came the Italians and the other Europeans and and
Speaker 3: you know, it's and then there was you know, Jewish
Speaker 3: immigration in the in the nineteen thirties. And it's it's
Speaker 3: the ladder, and it's the people that you disliked the most,
Speaker 3: not of the the people who are above you on
Speaker 3: the ladder, on the wrong of the ladder, of these
Speaker 3: people who are under you, because you're fearful they're going
Speaker 3: to get past you.
Speaker 1: I know one thing, my grandfather and I was, you know, alive.
Speaker 1: He came here. He was from Russia, and he was
Speaker 1: fourteen years old and had to go in to drop
Speaker 1: stuff off in his village from their farm and got
Speaker 1: conscripted into the Russian army and like nineteen oh three
Speaker 1: they just took him. He was in there five years,
Speaker 1: came home on leave and said I'm going to America.
Speaker 3: He was there in time for the Russian Japanese War,
Speaker 3: the Russia Japan Japanese War.
Speaker 1: The funny part is he's here nineteen seventeen, he gets
Speaker 1: drafted into.
Speaker 4: The World War.
Speaker 3: So, you know, but everything Gary.
Speaker 1: Absolutely, But I'll say one thing. Those people there are
Speaker 1: our friends Israel, and they we have a big connection
Speaker 1: to them, more than we do any of those other
Speaker 1: Arab countries, and we need to support them for our benefit.
Speaker 3: But I also think that the Abraham Accords might be
Speaker 3: the bridge that that could slowly be built so that
Speaker 3: countries in the Middle East, you know, like the Arab Emirates,
Speaker 3: the uae all, you know, in Saudi Arabia, they can
Speaker 3: see Israel. And I think that that peace with Israel
Speaker 3: will will will make literally the economies of the Middle
Speaker 3: East bloom.
Speaker 1: And you know what, life is so short. I had
Speaker 1: a year of war and that was more than enough
Speaker 1: to satisfy me for two lifetimes. I would think these
Speaker 1: people would want to get to yether and say, like
Speaker 1: you said, hey, let's do so I'm good here and
Speaker 1: really with the Palestinians. If they would have looked at
Speaker 1: Israel and use that as a template, they'd be doing
Speaker 1: swell today.
Speaker 3: So sad, so sad Yey Gary, Thanks Man, I got
Speaker 3: the news. I gotta run, Thanks Man, talk to you
Speaker 3: so happy New York talkson coming back on Nightside. Here's
Speaker 3: the news. I got a couple of more open lines.
Speaker 3: If you want, we can talk to me the least here.
Speaker 3: If not, we'll switch topics six one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 3: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three one ten thirty.
Speaker 3: The world is a small place, ladies and gentlemen. Believe me,
Speaker 3: it's a small place. And if the Middle East ever
Speaker 3: blew up, we would all feel the flames. Trust me
Speaker 3: on that. It is a Walt Disney headed right. It
Speaker 3: is a very small world. And if you have questions
Speaker 3: or concerns and you'd like to join the conversation, feel free.
Speaker 3: Back on Nightside right after the.
Speaker 2: News, Night Side with Dan Ray on WBZ Boston's news radio.
Speaker 3: Back we go. Let's go to Wildowne in Long Island.
Speaker 3: Hey will welcome back. How are you, sir?
Speaker 6: Hey Dan? How you doing so? I'm half Irish, half Italian,
Speaker 6: and you know my great grandparents on the Irish side
Speaker 6: were from Ireland. My grandparents on my mother's side were
Speaker 6: from Italy, so I know all the names that were
Speaker 6: used for both sides. I heard them all the time
Speaker 6: from one side to the other side. And then in
Speaker 6: New York they all lived in the same neighborhood, like
Speaker 6: I'm sure, like in Boston, you know, and like you know,
Speaker 6: and the Jews also, you know. And I think what
Speaker 6: you call was saying like we were more ethnic back then, yeah,
Speaker 6: because the people were here. But I think he meant
Speaker 6: for white people, because you know, the amalgamation of the
Speaker 6: white race really happened here in the United States hundreds
Speaker 6: of years ago, seventeen hundreds or so. You you you
Speaker 6: said that an Irishman was the same race as an Englishman.
Speaker 6: I mean, that was absurd. You know, the thought of
Speaker 6: that was ridiculous. You know, there were laws on the
Speaker 6: books and the sixteen hundreds that kill in the Irishman
Speaker 6: was a kind of killing a dog. You know, it
Speaker 6: wasn't the same as as the night.
Speaker 3: But no, all I was what I was saying, No,
Speaker 3: please don't misinterpret what I was saying. What I was
Speaker 3: saying was that the English arrived first, and they kind
Speaker 3: of ruled the roost politically and in every other way.
Speaker 6: Uh, you know, I get down. I'm just making a
Speaker 6: separate point. I mean, I know that you weren't saying
Speaker 6: that at all. I mean, you know, the totem pole
Speaker 6: was still there today, you know, like I mean, the
Speaker 6: last one in right, I mean, the signs used to
Speaker 6: say what Irish need not apply after we were released
Speaker 6: from indentured servitude or whatever Irish need not apply. And
Speaker 6: then the Italians came in and they said, oh, look
Speaker 6: at these gas balls. They don't even speak English. So
Speaker 6: the Irish moved up a notch, you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: And then next sign in the window, yeah, next, you know.
Speaker 6: But you know, when we're talking about the Jews here
Speaker 6: in Israel, I get a little bit surprised when I
Speaker 6: hear Christians with an anti Semitic viewpoint. The first thing
Speaker 6: I say to them is, you know, Jesus, you're a Christian, right,
Speaker 6: Like you know the way to the Lord and the
Speaker 6: Light is through Jesus, and like, you know Jesus was
Speaker 6: a Jew. Wait, no, let me correct that Jesus is
Speaker 6: a Jew right now, at the hand of the Father resurrected,
Speaker 6: he's a Jew, and soos his father, right, So yeah,
Speaker 6: the whole crew, the whole people that you worship, all
Speaker 6: your saints, all these people are Jews, right, and it's
Speaker 6: hard for me to understand that disconnect that you can
Speaker 6: worship this Lord and Savior and understand that he was
Speaker 6: preaching Judaism right and not understand that right. And then
Speaker 6: you know, to see, there are people in the United
Speaker 6: States that will say things like the Holocaust didn't happen,
Speaker 6: or it was embellished, or my grandfather fought in Germany.
Speaker 6: My grandfather fought in Italy as an Italian. Believe it
Speaker 6: or not, but my grandfather fought in Germany. And I'll
Speaker 6: never forget when he told me the story about his
Speaker 6: unit opening up the gates to a concentration camp and
Speaker 6: he's like, you could smell the death from you know,
Speaker 6: miles away and something that like affected him for his
Speaker 6: whole life. We didn't call it them. You know, it
Speaker 6: wasn't PTSD back then. It was like shell shock these
Speaker 6: guys have. You could see when you know, he would
Speaker 6: talk about it, how affected he was by it. And
Speaker 6: you know, you just said at a moment, a though,
Speaker 6: you don't understand the animus that people have around the
Speaker 6: world really towards you know, what are there maybe thirteen
Speaker 6: fourteen million Jews in the entire world and the entire world,
Speaker 6: and believe it or not, in the entire world, there's
Speaker 6: only thirteen to fourteen million Jews. And you know, we
Speaker 6: made this place for Israel and for Lebanon, and basically
Speaker 6: we've been trying to, you know, since the Crusades, really
Speaker 6: free that place from the Muslim horde that kept overrunning it.
Speaker 6: I don't believe there'll ever be true peace in Israel
Speaker 6: as long as people that want to kill them live
Speaker 6: within their country and enjoy all this thing freedoms. You know,
Speaker 6: if you're a Palestinian or you're a Muslim in Israel
Speaker 6: and you're a Muslim woman, you can become a doctor,
Speaker 6: you can get educated, you can do more in Israel
Speaker 6: than you can do in the Arab world. And somehow
Speaker 6: people have convinced you that they're the enemy's I'm in shock,
Speaker 6: you know. And as long as well, I.
Speaker 3: Think, if you if you just pound it into people's heads,
Speaker 3: I feel unfortunately people will buy that, you know, I mean,
Speaker 3: you know, you just for meat, the big lie, just
Speaker 3: keep repeating the big lie. That's what Hitler, did you know?
Speaker 6: I mean, and The sad part is, you know that
Speaker 6: I believe that if Palestine had the opportunity to vote again,
Speaker 6: they would vote in another group of people that believe
Speaker 6: River to the sea. It does not matter how much
Speaker 6: damage Israel inflicks in Palestine, It does not matter how
Speaker 6: many buildings they knock down, It does not matter, no
Speaker 6: matter what, even though it is Hamasque that put them
Speaker 6: in this situation. And the Palestinians will find a way
Speaker 6: to blame the Jews. They're that brainwashed right now. And
Speaker 6: what's your option here? What's your option if you're Israel,
Speaker 6: are you supposed to continue to live? Listen? They advanced
Speaker 6: their borders in nineteen sixty seven. In reality, they really
Speaker 6: have the right to do whatever they want in that land.
Speaker 6: A lot of all the cultures would not allow those
Speaker 6: people to even.
Speaker 4: Stay, okay.
Speaker 6: And when they talk about giving a land back, who
Speaker 6: they supposed to give it back to Egypt and Jordan?
Speaker 6: They say, give it back, but to who? Where? Where
Speaker 6: did the land come from? Came from Egypt and Jordan.
Speaker 6: We're supposed to give it back to them. Why won't
Speaker 6: Egypt take the people back? Why won't Jordan take these
Speaker 6: people back? Nobody wants them, and they become Israel's problem,
Speaker 6: and at some point some harsh reality has to set
Speaker 6: in that they probably can't coincid they can't coexist peacefully together.
Speaker 6: All right, Dan, I talked to ao aod No.
Speaker 3: I think you make all the sense in the world.
Speaker 3: I think, oh, you make all the sense in the world.
Speaker 3: And I wish I had. I wish I had a
Speaker 3: retort that disagree with you, but I don't. I don't
Speaker 3: you chant. Thanks, I talk to you soon. Let me
Speaker 3: get Gary and Wubert in here before the break. Gary,
Speaker 3: I'll give you a break so you don't have to
Speaker 3: wake through the break. Go ahead, Gary.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that last call Carlin was outstanding. I'm not a
Speaker 7: very smart guy, but at sixty one years of age,
Speaker 7: two things I've caught on to the years the Italians
Speaker 7: in the Irish combination of doing the mafia way back when.
Speaker 7: And you can answer this question.
Speaker 1: Did the Italians.
Speaker 7: Violently try to get rid of the Irish like crazy
Speaker 7: so they could take over the mafia and everything? Is
Speaker 7: that correct?
Speaker 3: I don't think so. I don't think that's correct at all.
Speaker 7: I think they well what I'm getting at.
Speaker 3: I think that's what I think that's incorrect. But go ahead,
Speaker 3: what's your what's your next question?
Speaker 7: Well, the point I'm trying to make it a tribute
Speaker 7: question to you. It's a very simple answer. Let's just
Speaker 7: say the Jewish people, men, women, who had money. That's
Speaker 7: that they wanted to get involved in mafia. So fore,
Speaker 7: way back on, because it was a daily occurrence, you know, gambling.
Speaker 3: Question there was there wasn't you there was a Jewish
Speaker 3: mafia Mayo Landski and people like that.
Speaker 7: They were not Italian, right, But what I'm trying to
Speaker 7: say is that uh, mostly Italian and Irish and Suffolk.
Speaker 7: But what I'm getting at is this, what was the
Speaker 7: number one uh business for the Jewish people to get
Speaker 7: involved where they had to strangle all of the mafia.
Speaker 7: So where do the Jewish people going to make all
Speaker 7: the money?
Speaker 6: You know?
Speaker 7: The answer? Right?
Speaker 3: I think I think the Jewish people uh emphasized education,
Speaker 3: just as Asian families emphasized education uh in America, and
Speaker 3: I think that is how they I think I think
Speaker 3: that's how how how any group of people succeed. And
Speaker 3: you know, Jewish people are are successful in a whole
Speaker 3: bunch of area in in art, in theater, in business,
Speaker 3: in academia. I think that's what I believe. I don't
Speaker 3: know what you think I believe, but that's what I believe.
Speaker 7: Very good, that's number one. And uh uh education in
Speaker 7: that business?
Speaker 3: And are you are you giving me? Are you giving me?
Speaker 3: Are you giving me a test and a grade? Here? Gary?
Speaker 3: Or were having a conversation? Which is it?
Speaker 1: Both?
Speaker 7: The last out of the answer is this Hollywood. They
Speaker 7: made all the money in Hollywood they got said.
Speaker 3: I think I said, I think I said, arts and entertainment.
Speaker 3: I believe.
Speaker 7: Okay, okay, very good. Last thing before you going to
Speaker 7: go to the break. Wasn't it a disgrace that woman who
Speaker 7: was a bishop what she said is to Trump? She
Speaker 7: should have been acknowledging him as the new president of
Speaker 7: the United States and giving him thumbs up and almost
Speaker 7: like saying right in front of the congregation to say,
Speaker 7: we hope you can get the grocery prices down, mister president.
Speaker 7: We're off for you. We need so many, so much
Speaker 7: help so badly. God is behind you right now. Wasn't
Speaker 7: it a disgrace how she talked?
Speaker 3: I do believed that was absolutely disgraceful because she didn't know,
Speaker 3: she couldn't read the room. She couldn't understand the circumstances
Speaker 3: and uh. And apparently from what I understand, she uh
Speaker 3: that the National Cathedral is I've heard is losing membership.
Speaker 3: I mean, it's a magnificent church. Uh. And for somehow
Speaker 3: she has become the the bishop and and she thought
Speaker 3: that that that gave her the right to uh. She
Speaker 3: she thought that she had the right the privilege to
Speaker 3: lecture the president, the and and the incoming president and
Speaker 3: vice president of the United States. She she took advantage
Speaker 3: of a situation. And I think she disgraced herself in
Speaker 3: by the way.
Speaker 7: You know who nominated her or got her to be
Speaker 7: in charge of that for that day. Nope, I do
Speaker 7: not know Amy klobahah. They're both from Minnesota, the bishop
Speaker 7: and Amy.
Speaker 3: Well, my understanding is that she is that she is
Speaker 3: the head of that particular of the National Cathedral. I
Speaker 3: could be wrong on that, but why don't you check
Speaker 3: it out. I don't think that Kloba shar brought her
Speaker 3: in from Minnesota. She may have brought her in from
Speaker 3: Minnesota or helped get her installed at some point in
Speaker 3: the past. But my understanding it would be like if
Speaker 3: President Trump were to visit the cathedral here in Boston.
Speaker 3: It would be probably the Archbishop of Boston.
Speaker 7: And now the new arch on radio.
Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks very much appreciated. I passed Gary's test.
Speaker 3: All right, we're we got a few minutes left. I've
Speaker 3: got wide open lines. We've been trying to talk about
Speaker 3: the Middle East. We've had some interesting perspective, interesting calls
Speaker 3: which I do appreciate. But if you'd like to join,
Speaker 3: I give you a quick open line segment here. Any
Speaker 3: you want to talk about, or if you want to
Speaker 3: continue to talk about the Middle East, feel free, or
Speaker 3: if you want to make a comment on what ICE
Speaker 3: is doing now in the last seventy two hours, basically
Speaker 3: finding arresting with the intention of deporting criminal aliens. Love
Speaker 3: to hear from you on that. One six, one, seven, two, five,
Speaker 3: four ten thirty six one seven, nine three, one, ten thirty.
Speaker 3: We'll be right back on night Side.
Speaker 2: Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World
Speaker 2: Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio.
Speaker 3: Oh, I got just a few minutes left and the
Speaker 3: lines have gone quiet, which always disappoints me. But that's
Speaker 3: that's fine. If you'd like to jump on and talk
Speaker 3: about any issue you were more than you were more
Speaker 3: than welcome. We did tonight earlier talk about the efforts
Speaker 3: of ice ICE raids in Boston which have been conducted
Speaker 3: in the last seventy two hours. I'm very happy that
Speaker 3: those raids are underway. I kind of imagine why any person,
Speaker 3: politician or otherwise would want people here in their community
Speaker 3: who happened to be illegal any more than they would
Speaker 3: want people in their community who were US citizens and
Speaker 3: somehow were protected by politicians from being arrested, detained, and
Speaker 3: in the case of illegal aliens deported. Is there anyone
Speaker 3: out there who can explain to me the morality the
Speaker 3: morality of that? Is there anyone out there who can
Speaker 3: explain to me what purpose is served by that? I mean,
Speaker 3: if you have two people on a street. One is
Speaker 3: an American citizen who is a fugitive from justice, let
Speaker 3: us say, and across the street is an illegal alien
Speaker 3: who is also a fugitive from justice. Each of them
Speaker 3: either have been convicted or charged with crimes, serious crimes, murder, rape,
Speaker 3: or whatever. Would you say, well, no, they should just
Speaker 3: be allowed to stay, or do you take and arrest
Speaker 3: the American, indict the American put the American on trial
Speaker 3: and theoretically convict the American, while at the same time
Speaker 3: that same politicians is gonna say, no, we're going to
Speaker 3: allow the illegal alien to stay because sometimes because somehow
Speaker 3: this status is more sacrisanct than an American. It's insanity.
Speaker 3: If you want criminals living in your neighborhood, whether they're
Speaker 3: citizens or here illegally, and you do not want ICE
Speaker 3: to cooperate and the local authorities to cooperate with ICE
Speaker 3: to get those people out of your neighborhood, away from
Speaker 3: your family as fast as possible, then you are nuts
Speaker 3: or you are trying to somehow virtue signal for some
Speaker 3: bizarre reason. By the way, Gary, the woman who's the
Speaker 3: bishop of the National Cathedral, she's been there, I guess
Speaker 3: for about ten years. She was installed many years ago,
Speaker 3: or not many years ago, but I guess. Let me see,
Speaker 3: she was installed there, elected the ninth bishop in Washington
Speaker 3: and June eighteenth, twenty eleven, and as such she's the
Speaker 3: bishop of the National Cathedral. She's born in New Jersey.
Speaker 3: I do not see any connection to Amy Klobashar and
Speaker 3: the senator from Minnesota. Let me get Bill and Danvers
Speaker 3: in here wants to talk about ice. Bill, So happy
Speaker 3: to hear from you.
Speaker 8: All right ahead, Bill, Yeah, yeah, I think I give
Speaker 8: a call. I'm leaving Monday morning. I'm going to get
Speaker 8: out of here for warm climate for about eight nine days,
Speaker 8: so I can't take this, but yeah, I know.
Speaker 3: Where are you headed? Where are you headed? By the way,
Speaker 3: where are you headed?
Speaker 8: I'm going to go to the Dominican Republic. I've been
Speaker 8: there before. It's you know, I looked at the weather.
Speaker 8: Looks good. It looks a lot better than he had done.
Speaker 3: You know, it's okay, that's okay. We'll hope, hope you
Speaker 3: have safe passage and enjoy yourself. And we got a
Speaker 3: minute or so here, go ahead. I'm trying to ask
Speaker 3: anyone out there can explained to me the insanity of
Speaker 3: wanting to protect criminals in your community from being arrested
Speaker 3: and put into the criminal justice system. And if you're
Speaker 3: a legal alien, deportation, if you're an American citizen, indictment
Speaker 3: and trial. Go ahead.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 8: No, from what I saw, and I actually saw where
Speaker 8: it could be a good political at for twenty twenty six.
Speaker 8: That guy from Haiti that they hauled off there, he
Speaker 8: was pretty Actually I was impressed. This is pretty good.
Speaker 3: Uh you know, well he's been here a long time.
Speaker 3: Would would you like to hear his For those who
Speaker 3: missed it, this is the very interesting sound by Rob're
Speaker 3: gonna have you played for Bill and Danvers and for
Speaker 3: the audience real quickly. This is the Ice raid in
Speaker 3: Boston arresting a Haitian gang member who's apparently has seventeen
Speaker 3: outstanding charges. And he he's screaming and yelling as he's
Speaker 3: being put into a van cup thirty one, Rob.
Speaker 7: I'm not going back to Hayden, so you feel mean,
Speaker 7: no fighting, bro, take Obama anything that he played for me?
Speaker 3: Bolt, You're right that that that's that's that's an ad.
Speaker 7: For yeah, yeah, oh yeah. The picture.
Speaker 8: I mean it's worth a thousand where.
Speaker 6: I mean, you know I watched that.
Speaker 8: I had look at it a few times.
Speaker 6: I showed it that you know, I went into worked there,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: So we we played it. We played it a couple
Speaker 3: of times tonight, that's for sure. Bill. I am flat
Speaker 3: out a time. A couple of callers calling in a
Speaker 3: little late. So I'm gonna let you go enjoy your trip.
Speaker 3: Enjoy your trip. Call us when you get back. Thanks Bill,
Speaker 3: have a great night. For those of you who are
Speaker 3: calling at eleven fifty eight, sorry you're a little late.
Speaker 3: Rob Brooks, thank you very much. Marita a great job tonight.
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