WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.320 --> 00:00:04.679 Jeff back again tonight and also back for an hour 2 00:00:04.799 --> 00:00:08.119 of sports for the out of Sorts, the one the 3 00:00:08.199 --> 00:00:12.080 Only sports Commando. Wild Man Walker joins us. Wild Man, 4 00:00:12.160 --> 00:00:12.720 how are you? 5 00:00:13.960 --> 00:00:16.679 I can't complain, Gary, Jeff can't complain. 6 00:00:16.559 --> 00:00:20.480 So I interrupted your twenty four hour viewing of Andy 7 00:00:20.480 --> 00:00:23.000 Griffith and Gomer Pyle. How will you survive? 8 00:00:24.679 --> 00:00:27.239 I'll get through. I'll get through this. It's painful, but 9 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:30.239 I'll get through this. Because I've seen every episode at 10 00:00:30.359 --> 00:00:31.320 least three four. 11 00:00:31.120 --> 00:00:34.719 Times, only three or four. I figured maybe it'd be 12 00:00:34.799 --> 00:00:40.600 into the double digits by now. So here's the thing, 13 00:00:40.679 --> 00:00:42.719 wild Man, this is what I want to know before 14 00:00:42.719 --> 00:00:47.880 we start talking about the Bengals or anything else. How 15 00:00:47.920 --> 00:00:53.280 do you manage to keep it fresh? After all? I mean, 16 00:00:53.799 --> 00:00:56.079 it's got to get repetitive. It's got to be like 17 00:00:56.560 --> 00:00:58.920 I mean, do you I have a friend who watches 18 00:00:59.359 --> 00:01:04.760 Andy griff and Green Acres, and they've seen the episodes 19 00:01:04.799 --> 00:01:08.000 at least as many times as you have, and watches 20 00:01:08.359 --> 00:01:11.640 only so he can say the next line before it 21 00:01:11.719 --> 00:01:14.200 is spoken. Do you do that when you're watching? 22 00:01:14.480 --> 00:01:17.879 Uh? No, I see what the episode is and if 23 00:01:17.879 --> 00:01:19.480 I really really like it, I'll watch it. 24 00:01:19.879 --> 00:01:23.000 It's like, okay, I skip it, but there are there 25 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:25.200 are many of the episodes that I know the lines. 26 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:26.200 Oh yeah, there's no doubt. 27 00:01:26.359 --> 00:01:28.680 Right, So when you see the episode title of an 28 00:01:28.680 --> 00:01:33.000 Andy Griffith or a Gomer Pile, you can almost tell 29 00:01:33.040 --> 00:01:35.560 me the dialogue before it even happens in front of you. 30 00:01:35.640 --> 00:01:39.280 Again, right, without a doubt, especially with Andy, especially with Andy, 31 00:01:39.400 --> 00:01:42.200 not necessarily Gomer, but especially with Andy. 32 00:01:42.640 --> 00:01:45.640 Now, you said you were watching Gomer Pile earlier today, 33 00:01:45.760 --> 00:01:49.480 and it was the episode where he was sleepwalking. What 34 00:01:49.799 --> 00:01:52.599 I'm We're eating Welsh rabbit. I think it's I think 35 00:01:52.640 --> 00:01:56.120 the dish is called Welsh rarebit, but he probably thought 36 00:01:56.120 --> 00:01:59.760 it was a rabbit, right, So what what did goom? 37 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:00.200 Hell? 38 00:02:00.359 --> 00:02:01.200 Is wash wherbitt? 39 00:02:01.519 --> 00:02:02.079 What is that? 40 00:02:02.239 --> 00:02:05.480 What is Welsh rarebit? It is a It's a dish 41 00:02:05.519 --> 00:02:08.639 I'm not familiar with. I've never had, which is probably 42 00:02:08.639 --> 00:02:11.599 why I don't sleep walk. So yeah, apparently this in 43 00:02:11.719 --> 00:02:17.280 fact that Sergeant Carter too. Sergeant Carter also was sleepwalking 44 00:02:17.319 --> 00:02:18.719 after eating the Welsh rarebit. 45 00:02:19.680 --> 00:02:21.280 Yeah, because he was trying to make a point to 46 00:02:21.360 --> 00:02:23.439 Boil that it wouldn't affect him and I did. 47 00:02:23.759 --> 00:02:27.319 Yes, all right, So so what did Gomer do under 48 00:02:27.319 --> 00:02:30.360 the influence of Welsh rarebit in his sleep walking? 49 00:02:30.719 --> 00:02:33.120 I've never seen Oh he got oh yeah, he got 50 00:02:33.199 --> 00:02:35.240 up and walked over to the to the hut, knocked 51 00:02:35.280 --> 00:02:37.120 on the door and started chewing out Carter. 52 00:02:37.759 --> 00:02:41.000 Well, it's turn about, Turnabout's fair play, man, I'm all 53 00:02:41.039 --> 00:02:42.919 for that, right, And then Carter was. 54 00:02:42.879 --> 00:02:45.400 More like in the uh he started acting like more 55 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:48.280 like Gomer. I'm sorry, sir, I'm sorry, Ali. You know, 56 00:02:48.560 --> 00:02:49.759 so it kind of was reverse. 57 00:02:50.879 --> 00:02:55.680 Okay. So, uh, here's the other question I have. Does 58 00:02:55.680 --> 00:03:00.599 it extend behind beyond Andy Griffith and Gomer piled Do 59 00:03:00.680 --> 00:03:05.000 you watch Green Acres? Do you watch petticoat Johnson? 60 00:03:05.879 --> 00:03:08.400 I watched some Green Acres. I watch uh. 61 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:12.080 Oh, I watched Star Trek because they've got all the 62 00:03:12.120 --> 00:03:13.240 original Star Treks. 63 00:03:13.560 --> 00:03:15.879 Yeah, they just sold a bunch of They just sold 64 00:03:15.879 --> 00:03:19.960 a bunch of Captain Kirk's gear. H I mean, like 65 00:03:20.000 --> 00:03:24.759 the uniform, the phaser set on stunt not kill hopefully. 66 00:03:24.879 --> 00:03:26.120 I can't imagine what that one. 67 00:03:26.080 --> 00:03:29.439 The communicator. I think all told it was like, I 68 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:32.840 don't know, hundreds of thousands of dollars of memorabilia on 69 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:33.280 the bluff. 70 00:03:34.039 --> 00:03:36.240 There's so many Star Trek freaks out there. I watch 71 00:03:36.319 --> 00:03:39.039 Twilight Zone all the time because there's there's still a 72 00:03:39.039 --> 00:03:40.560 few Twilight Zones I haven't seen. 73 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:42.719 But again, if I see if I see it and 74 00:03:42.759 --> 00:03:44.719 I go I like it, I'll watch it. If I don't, 75 00:03:44.759 --> 00:03:46.199 I skip on it. There you go. 76 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:48.199 Those are the channels I really I watch a lot. 77 00:03:48.280 --> 00:03:51.199 How much of the Bengals this season? Have you liked 78 00:03:51.240 --> 00:03:52.599 what you saw, wild Man? 79 00:03:53.520 --> 00:03:55.159 Well, I like what I see out of my guy 80 00:03:55.319 --> 00:03:57.960 Joe Burrow. I like what I see out of what's 81 00:03:58.000 --> 00:04:00.080 that receiver's name, Jamar. 82 00:04:02.240 --> 00:04:02.400 Name. 83 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:05.159 I like what I see out of Trey Hendrickson. 84 00:04:05.240 --> 00:04:07.759 I like what I've seen out of the offensive line 85 00:04:07.759 --> 00:04:11.479 at times, especially uh a Marius Mims. 86 00:04:11.520 --> 00:04:12.560 He's he's done pretty well. 87 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:14.599 I mean, I mean thrust in there when he was 88 00:04:14.719 --> 00:04:16.959 really only going to be like in and out, in 89 00:04:17.000 --> 00:04:18.879 and out. But he's done a pretty good job at 90 00:04:18.879 --> 00:04:22.600 the at right tackle. Yeah, I mean, And I love 91 00:04:22.920 --> 00:04:24.720 the punter that they picked up. I mean, that guy 92 00:04:24.800 --> 00:04:25.240 that got. 93 00:04:25.120 --> 00:04:27.240 Could be a game changer outside of Henna, be a 94 00:04:27.279 --> 00:04:29.160 game change out of the side of Hendrickson. What about 95 00:04:29.199 --> 00:04:30.720 the defense, wild Man. 96 00:04:32.000 --> 00:04:34.800 Uh, I don't know, I don't know. What I can 97 00:04:34.839 --> 00:04:36.480 really say much about some of those guys. 98 00:04:36.480 --> 00:04:39.279 A lot of mistackles, a lot of mistackles, a lot 99 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:40.160 of drop picks. 100 00:04:40.279 --> 00:04:41.839 Uh, And that's where it lies. 101 00:04:42.360 --> 00:04:43.160 That's where it lies. 102 00:04:43.240 --> 00:04:45.879 Offensively, if the Bengals, and you can look the last 103 00:04:45.879 --> 00:04:48.319 four games, how many points they put up, they should 104 00:04:48.360 --> 00:04:49.800 win all those games technically, if. 105 00:04:49.680 --> 00:04:50.720 You put up that many points. 106 00:04:50.759 --> 00:04:53.519 But the defense is just hasn't been there at all 107 00:04:53.600 --> 00:04:55.120 season long, hasn't been there at all. 108 00:04:55.319 --> 00:04:57.839 I think that that is the one chink in the 109 00:04:57.879 --> 00:05:01.800 Baltimore Ravens armor is their defense. Obviously, the Bengals are 110 00:05:01.800 --> 00:05:08.079 scoring right with them points and Baltimore had a history 111 00:05:08.199 --> 00:05:10.920 of having just one of the best defenses in the league. 112 00:05:11.000 --> 00:05:13.480 I tell you who is spectacular I think so far 113 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:15.519 this season, wild man, see if you agree with me. 114 00:05:15.839 --> 00:05:18.399 Are the Pittsburgh Steelers. I mean they are the Steelers 115 00:05:18.519 --> 00:05:21.680 every year and they're back again and they look just 116 00:05:22.120 --> 00:05:27.920 I mean defensively, they're tough to crack, very very. 117 00:05:27.800 --> 00:05:31.319 Tough to crack. And that's gonna be three weeks. Steelers 118 00:05:31.360 --> 00:05:33.720 will be here and that will be a huge game 119 00:05:34.040 --> 00:05:36.319 for the Bengals because it's a division game to keep 120 00:05:36.360 --> 00:05:40.199 their playoff hopes alive. The offensively, I know they're using 121 00:05:40.279 --> 00:05:43.199 Russell Wilson now, but they don't really scare me. They 122 00:05:43.240 --> 00:05:45.720 don't have much of a running game, just about as 123 00:05:45.720 --> 00:05:48.600 bad as the Bengals don't have. But the Steelers, I mean, 124 00:05:48.720 --> 00:05:51.959 nobody picked them to be seven and two. Nobody thought 125 00:05:51.959 --> 00:05:54.279 they would be seven and two, and they're winning games 126 00:05:54.279 --> 00:05:56.240 by their defense and are winning their games by playing 127 00:05:56.279 --> 00:05:57.040 smart football. 128 00:05:57.680 --> 00:05:59.800 No, no, no question about it. But again that goes 129 00:05:59.839 --> 00:06:03.879 back to the coach. Mike Tomlin is an incredible head 130 00:06:03.920 --> 00:06:07.279 coach in the NFL. He's proven it over the years. Now, 131 00:06:07.439 --> 00:06:10.600 you know, Pittsburgh hires a head coach and they stay 132 00:06:10.720 --> 00:06:14.360 for like fifteen twenty years. You know Cower and before him, 133 00:06:14.439 --> 00:06:18.439 Chuck Knowell and now Mike Tomlin. Let's go through some 134 00:06:18.519 --> 00:06:21.639 of the coaches in the NFL who are elite and 135 00:06:22.040 --> 00:06:25.680 it's showed in the records of their teams. Dan Campbell, 136 00:06:25.839 --> 00:06:29.680 for example, of the Detroit Lions. That guy is a 137 00:06:29.759 --> 00:06:31.720 Hall of Fame coach in my opinion. 138 00:06:31.759 --> 00:06:34.439 Your thoughts, well, I mean, yes, I don't know. 139 00:06:34.720 --> 00:06:37.240 I think that's a little early to annoint him for 140 00:06:37.279 --> 00:06:39.319 the Hall of Fame, but he's done a hell of 141 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:41.439 a job turning around the hapless Lions. 142 00:06:41.480 --> 00:06:42.199 He really has. 143 00:06:42.360 --> 00:06:44.600 But if you look at Dan Campbell, and you look 144 00:06:44.639 --> 00:06:48.439 at Mike Tomlin, and you look at Jim Harball, Yeah, 145 00:06:48.480 --> 00:06:52.160 those guys delegate authority. They said, you know, they coached 146 00:06:52.160 --> 00:06:54.480 the game. They're not calling every play. You don't see 147 00:06:54.480 --> 00:06:56.920 them with the play sheet in front of them. That's 148 00:06:56.920 --> 00:06:59.279 why they hire these guys and do their jobs directly. 149 00:06:59.319 --> 00:07:01.759 And was all the way back and talk about the Steelers, 150 00:07:01.959 --> 00:07:04.360 how they used to win games. They had an offensive 151 00:07:04.360 --> 00:07:08.480 coordinator and a defensive coordinator. They called the plays. You know, 152 00:07:09.240 --> 00:07:11.920 Chuck Nole basically coached. And to me, that's how you 153 00:07:12.079 --> 00:07:14.639 that's how you win football. That's really you know, let 154 00:07:14.759 --> 00:07:17.519 coach the team, let the other guys you know, call 155 00:07:17.639 --> 00:07:20.439 the plays and that situation. 156 00:07:20.600 --> 00:07:24.199 Okay, let me throw in another one then, who has 157 00:07:25.480 --> 00:07:33.399 every His fingerprints are on everything his team does, especially offensively, 158 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:36.160 Andy Reid of my Kansas City Chiefs. 159 00:07:37.040 --> 00:07:38.360 Yeah, absolutely so. 160 00:07:38.480 --> 00:07:42.120 I mean now he delegates to some pretty fine coaches, 161 00:07:42.160 --> 00:07:47.519 Steve Spagnolah, primarily because that defense is just hard hard 162 00:07:47.639 --> 00:07:53.160 to be in Kansas City. But I mean the offensive 163 00:07:53.279 --> 00:07:56.240 genius and brilliance of Andy Reid and getting players. And 164 00:07:56.519 --> 00:07:59.560 that's another thing is as a franchise, as an organization, 165 00:08:00.160 --> 00:08:03.160 the Chiefs, when they lose somebody, they go out and 166 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:05.959 find somebody that can fill that hole. I mean, even 167 00:08:06.079 --> 00:08:08.439 in the middle of the season, before the trading deadline, 168 00:08:08.639 --> 00:08:13.319 they were adding players that they needed to compliment, you know, 169 00:08:13.839 --> 00:08:16.399 what they had and what they had lost replace what 170 00:08:16.439 --> 00:08:17.079 they had lost. 171 00:08:17.600 --> 00:08:21.240 So mentioned and Andy Reid there, Gary Jeff I mean, 172 00:08:21.279 --> 00:08:23.720 the guy had success with the Philadelphia Eagles. 173 00:08:23.720 --> 00:08:25.800 I mean, and so they goes over to the Kansas 174 00:08:25.800 --> 00:08:26.560 City Chiefs. 175 00:08:26.800 --> 00:08:29.480 When you talk about Zach Taylor, what success did he 176 00:08:29.560 --> 00:08:32.320 had as a head coach for the Bechls to hire him? 177 00:08:32.720 --> 00:08:34.679 Zero experience zero? 178 00:08:36.320 --> 00:08:39.440 Yeah, I mean as much as as much experience as 179 00:08:39.519 --> 00:08:41.279 Kamala Harris had, which is why she. 180 00:08:41.320 --> 00:08:48.960 Lost Night's comparison. Yes, and Zach Taylor, Zach Taylor should 181 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:52.360 thank God every day that the Bengals drafted Joe Burrow 182 00:08:52.480 --> 00:08:53.519 number one in the draft. 183 00:08:55.000 --> 00:08:59.039 Oh well, I mean all Bengals fans should be falling 184 00:08:59.080 --> 00:09:01.639 on there. And we're getting to Thanksgiving, it's time to 185 00:09:01.639 --> 00:09:06.480 give thanks wild Man. There's no question about that. Okay. 186 00:09:06.519 --> 00:09:08.240 I tell you what, We'll take a quick break and 187 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:10.679 come back with another segment. I'm going to ask you 188 00:09:10.679 --> 00:09:15.120 about something that the NFL just did to one of 189 00:09:15.159 --> 00:09:19.399 the premier defensive players in the league, all because, whether 190 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:23.879 they will admit it or not, they are a political 191 00:09:24.080 --> 00:09:30.600 organization through and through. It's a nightcap with Wildman Sports 192 00:09:30.600 --> 00:09:34.840 for the out of Sorts on seven hundred WLW. More 193 00:09:35.000 --> 00:09:38.440 just ahead and with us on this abbreviated nightcap on 194 00:09:38.519 --> 00:09:43.919 seven hundred WLW, Gary Jeff and the wild and I 195 00:09:43.960 --> 00:09:46.840 have a new favorite defensive end in the NFL, and 196 00:09:46.879 --> 00:09:50.600 I'm not even a fan of the team. Back on 197 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:55.039 October twenty Back on October twenty seventh, after the forty 198 00:09:55.120 --> 00:09:58.600 nine Ers had dispatched the Dallas Cowboys, like almost everyone 199 00:09:58.679 --> 00:10:02.720 else in the NFL had, Brock Purty is being interviewed 200 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:09.919 postgame and incomes for a photo bomb opportunity one Nick Bosa. 201 00:10:10.759 --> 00:10:14.080 Nick Bosa is wearing a white, not a red, but 202 00:10:14.159 --> 00:10:17.919 a white make America Great Again hat, and he just 203 00:10:18.120 --> 00:10:21.399 gets into the photo and just points with bose fingers 204 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:27.840 to his hat. Well, this violates an NFL policy. This 205 00:10:28.000 --> 00:10:33.399 violates an NFL policy. He was fined eleven two d 206 00:10:33.519 --> 00:10:36.279 and fifty five dollars for violating the NFL Uniform and 207 00:10:36.360 --> 00:10:39.759 Equipment rules for wearing a hat that contained a personal message. 208 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:45.879 Couldn't They didn't say political, they said personal message. This 209 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:48.639 was according to the ape, spoke to somebody with the 210 00:10:48.720 --> 00:10:53.399 league on the anonymity. So he crashes the interview. He's 211 00:10:53.399 --> 00:10:56.120 got a white hat that reads make America Great Again, 212 00:10:57.600 --> 00:11:00.480 and the story says the story from CBS says, in 213 00:11:00.559 --> 00:11:03.120 support of Trump's candidacy for president. We all know what 214 00:11:03.200 --> 00:11:06.679 Maggie is. We know make America great again? Who says that? 215 00:11:07.200 --> 00:11:10.399 But it says nothing about Trump on the hat. It 216 00:11:10.480 --> 00:11:15.720 just says make How can the NFL argue against making 217 00:11:15.759 --> 00:11:18.480 America great again? Wild man? Don't we all want to 218 00:11:18.519 --> 00:11:20.919 make America great again? I just don't get at. The 219 00:11:21.000 --> 00:11:23.799 NFL rules state that throughout the period on game day, 220 00:11:24.279 --> 00:11:27.159 the whole day that a player visible to the stadium 221 00:11:27.840 --> 00:11:32.679 and television audience, including in pregame warmups, in the bench area, 222 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:35.360 during postgame interviews, in the locker room, or on the field, 223 00:11:35.639 --> 00:11:40.320 players are prohibited from wearing, displaying, or otherwise conveying personal messages, 224 00:11:40.559 --> 00:11:45.200 either in writing or illustration, unless such message has been 225 00:11:45.240 --> 00:11:49.000 improved in advance by the league office. So if he'd 226 00:11:49.039 --> 00:11:52.600 been wearing a hat that said end hate now or 227 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:56.679 end racism, it would have been fine. But because he 228 00:11:56.799 --> 00:12:02.159 was wearing Make America Great Again on his head, Oh no, now, 229 00:12:02.279 --> 00:12:04.679 maybe no, you can't do that. I mean, the eleven 230 00:12:04.759 --> 00:12:07.759 thousand dollars fine is not going to hurt nick Pos's 231 00:12:07.799 --> 00:12:11.320 bottom line. And he said afterwards, he said, I expect 232 00:12:11.320 --> 00:12:13.919 to find his coming and it was worth it. 233 00:12:14.120 --> 00:12:21.559 Your thoughts the NFL, oh Man, the NFL, really, their 234 00:12:21.600 --> 00:12:24.519 priorities are so out of whack when you see something 235 00:12:24.639 --> 00:12:27.840 like this, instead of addressing the real issue in the 236 00:12:27.919 --> 00:12:30.919 National Football League, which is the officials up and down 237 00:12:30.960 --> 00:12:34.159 and all around, the incompetence of the officials, they're worried 238 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:37.120 about somebody with a hat. They're worried about somebody with 239 00:12:37.159 --> 00:12:37.679 a hat. 240 00:12:37.519 --> 00:12:39.320 Because it's ridiculous. 241 00:12:39.679 --> 00:12:43.080 It's just it's no, it's dumb, and really it's really dumb, and. 242 00:12:43.440 --> 00:12:45.799 That their priorities are our way out of whack. 243 00:12:45.840 --> 00:12:47.559 And I loved it that you know that what you 244 00:12:47.639 --> 00:12:49.480 just said, what Bosa had said, because I didn't read 245 00:12:49.639 --> 00:12:51.399 what he said, it was it was worth it. 246 00:12:51.399 --> 00:12:54.759 It was worthy of repenting. I mean, again, the NFL's. 247 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:57.879 Priorities, what they should be worrying about even maybe changing 248 00:12:57.879 --> 00:13:01.600 the rule about pass interference because so many games are 249 00:13:01.600 --> 00:13:05.200 determined by pass interference when it isn't pass interference or 250 00:13:05.200 --> 00:13:07.240 when it should be past interference. 251 00:13:07.480 --> 00:13:11.559 I mean, oh right, like like on a crucial two 252 00:13:11.600 --> 00:13:14.120 point conversion at the end of a game to decide 253 00:13:14.440 --> 00:13:16.759 the outcome of the contest. Let's see, what have we 254 00:13:16.879 --> 00:13:19.159 seen that maybe last Thursday? 255 00:13:20.120 --> 00:13:24.039 Yeah, exactly, yeah, or maybe maybe that pass interferance call 256 00:13:24.080 --> 00:13:26.519 that costs the New Orleans Saints a trip to the 257 00:13:26.679 --> 00:13:28.000 NFC Championship game. 258 00:13:28.159 --> 00:13:31.000 Oh you know that Stevie Wonder could see that's a 259 00:13:31.039 --> 00:13:35.120 good callback. I forgot about that. That's that's awesome, all right. 260 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:39.399 So we're there with that and the officiating. Do you 261 00:13:39.559 --> 00:13:44.440 think there is going to be a forensic investigation at 262 00:13:44.440 --> 00:13:47.120 the end of this year to find out if all 263 00:13:47.159 --> 00:13:51.519 of these calls were legitimate calls or were they influenced 264 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:57.039 by all of the widespread legal gambling that's going on. 265 00:13:57.279 --> 00:13:59.200 I always thought it was a good thing to go 266 00:13:59.240 --> 00:14:04.000 ahead and legal lies gambling on sports because it was 267 00:14:04.039 --> 00:14:07.960 already going on. And when it's underneath and it's illegal, 268 00:14:08.519 --> 00:14:12.000 there are no regulations and nobody's really checking to see 269 00:14:12.039 --> 00:14:17.519 who's getting paid and who's being influenced in that regard. 270 00:14:18.080 --> 00:14:22.799 There's plenty of there's plenty of stop gaps for the players, 271 00:14:23.440 --> 00:14:27.039 but the officials are more vulnerable, and the game is 272 00:14:27.080 --> 00:14:31.120 more vulnerable than ever because the officials can have such 273 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:35.159 a wide ranging impact on games with just one or 274 00:14:35.159 --> 00:14:37.679 two calls here or there. How I mean, how much 275 00:14:37.759 --> 00:14:41.639 do you think the officials are being influenced by the 276 00:14:41.720 --> 00:14:44.320 legal gambling that we see all across the country. 277 00:14:44.519 --> 00:14:46.440 I would hope, I would hope zero. 278 00:14:46.559 --> 00:14:48.519 But if you go back and remember a few years 279 00:14:48.559 --> 00:14:51.440 ago where the NBA had had one official or maybe 280 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:54.000 with the two officials, that they found out that they 281 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:55.759 were being influenced that he was gambling. 282 00:14:56.519 --> 00:14:58.039 If the NFL is going to do this. 283 00:14:58.080 --> 00:15:01.759 Gary, Jeff, I'll probably do it secretly behind closed doors. 284 00:15:01.799 --> 00:15:04.279 I don't think they're closing their eyes to what to 285 00:15:04.440 --> 00:15:06.480 what what you're bringing up, But I think they will 286 00:15:06.519 --> 00:15:08.919 do it quietly, but you know, behind closed doors. And 287 00:15:08.960 --> 00:15:11.440 they're probably doing it now, which we don't know because 288 00:15:11.799 --> 00:15:14.080 you know, once they once they say that they're doing it, 289 00:15:14.120 --> 00:15:16.679 then the the they're like rats, they like they take 290 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:19.039 off when the lights come on. So maybe they're doing 291 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:21.360 it but behind and behind the scenes. 292 00:15:21.159 --> 00:15:24.360 So really they should they really they should. 293 00:15:24.240 --> 00:15:27.360 So behind closed doors like David Stern and the NBA 294 00:15:27.480 --> 00:15:30.240 did with Michael Jordan when they said, Michael, maybe you 295 00:15:30.320 --> 00:15:33.240 better retire for just a minute until this blows over, 296 00:15:33.399 --> 00:15:39.000 because they were all kinds of reality and anybody doesn't 297 00:15:39.080 --> 00:15:41.720 believe that, and they're just fooling themselves. You know, something 298 00:15:41.840 --> 00:15:44.759 was going on there. Yeah, well, same thing with the show. 299 00:15:44.799 --> 00:15:46.960 Hey Tony, you know you can't tell me the show. 300 00:15:46.960 --> 00:15:48.960 Hey Tony didn't know where his money was going on, 301 00:15:49.240 --> 00:15:52.320 or that is, his personal handler was making all these bets. 302 00:15:52.360 --> 00:15:55.200 But you know, he was the face of baseball, you know. 303 00:15:55.240 --> 00:15:58.279 And then and the commissioner didn't want any part of that. 304 00:15:58.320 --> 00:16:00.840 And of course the commissioner gave well, you know, the 305 00:16:00.919 --> 00:16:04.600 astros or you know, walking papers because they didn't want 306 00:16:04.600 --> 00:16:07.120 to testify against each other for the attaintant of the 307 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:08.720 World Series of Championship. 308 00:16:09.120 --> 00:16:13.200 Yeah, no doubt I wanted to. And I know you 309 00:16:13.279 --> 00:16:17.279 wanted to talk about the Pete Rose visitations. So if 310 00:16:17.279 --> 00:16:19.679 you want to just launch into your thoughts on that, 311 00:16:20.000 --> 00:16:24.240 because I know Pete, your guy, Pete everybody's guy in Cincinnati. 312 00:16:24.279 --> 00:16:27.759 If you're a baseball fan, so just tell me about that. 313 00:16:27.879 --> 00:16:29.679 Talk about that a little bit, if you don't mind. 314 00:16:30.559 --> 00:16:33.279 I got down there around twelve fifteen and I was 315 00:16:33.320 --> 00:16:35.919 still spitting rain and the wind was blown, and we decided, well, 316 00:16:35.960 --> 00:16:38.039 let's go in down sort of waiting for our people 317 00:16:38.080 --> 00:16:39.639 to meet. At one o'clock, I'll call him and tell 318 00:16:39.679 --> 00:16:42.679 him to come on in because there was no line 319 00:16:42.759 --> 00:16:45.039 right then at the time outside outside the gate. 320 00:16:45.120 --> 00:16:46.200 So we went. 321 00:16:46.279 --> 00:16:47.519 And let me be the first thing to say, Gary 322 00:16:47.600 --> 00:16:50.600 Jeff that the Reds Hall of Fame and Museum did 323 00:16:50.639 --> 00:16:54.799 a first class job honoring number fourteen. When people were 324 00:16:54.799 --> 00:16:57.320 in line, they had videos of you know, Pete in 325 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:59.399 the past of what he did and things like that, and. 326 00:16:59.320 --> 00:17:01.360 They didn't rush people through the line. 327 00:17:01.519 --> 00:17:03.840 There was no Russian people to pay their respects, and 328 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:06.720 that they gave people plenty of time. And then when 329 00:17:06.720 --> 00:17:09.279 you got up to the where the urn was and such, 330 00:17:09.559 --> 00:17:12.759 and then of course uh Fawn Rose and Kara Rose 331 00:17:13.119 --> 00:17:16.440 they were there to greet everybody, and they greeted, like 332 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:21.039 I just said, everybody, everybody. I waited like forty five minutes, 333 00:17:21.039 --> 00:17:23.880 which wasn't bad because there was a line through the ropes. 334 00:17:24.119 --> 00:17:27.839 Once you walked into the stadium. But Fawn and Kara, Uh, 335 00:17:27.880 --> 00:17:29.799 they were they were just tremendous. They took they took 336 00:17:29.839 --> 00:17:33.279 their time and talked to everybody. Nobody was being rushed, 337 00:17:33.359 --> 00:17:36.079 and that was the great thing. That really was Tyler 338 00:17:36.160 --> 00:17:38.640 Rose he was there, but I didn't see him, so 339 00:17:38.839 --> 00:17:40.839 I didn't get to talk to Tyler. But of course 340 00:17:40.880 --> 00:17:43.000 I talked to Fawn and I talked to Kara, and 341 00:17:43.200 --> 00:17:46.240 they were so apprecied of everybody that showed up. I 342 00:17:46.240 --> 00:17:48.720 don't know the head count officially yet, but when I 343 00:17:48.799 --> 00:17:50.759 when I left, because I went across the street to 344 00:17:51.079 --> 00:17:53.359 get something to eat with my party. When I left, 345 00:17:53.359 --> 00:17:55.480 the line was out from the stadium to the to 346 00:17:55.519 --> 00:17:59.680 the statue because the rain had broken up. So I 347 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:01.920 don't know, but there was a continuous line of people 348 00:18:02.279 --> 00:18:05.279 all day long. Needless to say, it was it was 349 00:18:05.319 --> 00:18:08.319 well done. It was respectful, and I think everybody down there, 350 00:18:08.400 --> 00:18:10.759 you know, and when people were in line, Gary, Jeff 351 00:18:10.799 --> 00:18:13.599 going too hardly. Anybody was even talking. If they were talking, 352 00:18:13.599 --> 00:18:17.880 they were talking real low. So it was respectful, respectful. 353 00:18:18.079 --> 00:18:20.000 So there was there was a there was an element 354 00:18:20.039 --> 00:18:24.839 of reverence there. Uh yes, and and uh maybe that 355 00:18:25.000 --> 00:18:28.839 is absolutely the proper protocol for an event like that. 356 00:18:28.920 --> 00:18:31.240 It was a visitation for Pete Rose. Now I've been 357 00:18:31.400 --> 00:18:36.000 visitations for people before, and you know, after you go by, 358 00:18:36.039 --> 00:18:38.359 if there's a casket, After you go by the casket 359 00:18:38.400 --> 00:18:41.839 and you greet the immediate family members, then it kind 360 00:18:41.880 --> 00:18:44.240 of breaks up and you're talking and stuff. But uh, 361 00:18:44.720 --> 00:18:47.480 while you're waiting in that line, there's usually not a 362 00:18:47.519 --> 00:18:52.480 whole lot of conversation. Obviously Pete wasn't there, but uh, 363 00:18:52.519 --> 00:18:53.599 it wasn't official. 364 00:18:54.079 --> 00:18:57.759 It was the same way it was recognition. Yes, yeah, 365 00:18:57.799 --> 00:18:59.160 there was a yeah, you can hear Pete. I've heard 366 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:00.519 people talk about anody was talking. 367 00:19:00.559 --> 00:19:00.960 I'm loud. 368 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:03.559 Nobody really was laughing and carrying on. Maybe when they 369 00:19:03.559 --> 00:19:06.000 got up to Fawn and she told him a joke 370 00:19:06.079 --> 00:19:08.200 or Kara told him a joke or something. But in 371 00:19:08.240 --> 00:19:10.920 the line, people were very very very very quiet. And 372 00:19:11.000 --> 00:19:13.680 it was again they read Hall of Famer, Museum of 373 00:19:13.799 --> 00:19:16.039 Kudos to them because they did a first class job 374 00:19:16.279 --> 00:19:17.160 honoring the hit king. 375 00:19:17.640 --> 00:19:19.000 How about till that I made it? 376 00:19:19.200 --> 00:19:23.799 How about Karen Fawn's how about their How were they doing? 377 00:19:23.920 --> 00:19:25.160 How did they seem to be doing? 378 00:19:25.920 --> 00:19:28.359 They seemed to be doing great they seemed to be 379 00:19:28.400 --> 00:19:30.799 doing great. Yeah, Fawn was a you know, it was 380 00:19:30.960 --> 00:19:31.519 doing great. 381 00:19:31.599 --> 00:19:33.880 I think she was. I think she is. She pretty 382 00:19:33.920 --> 00:19:36.880 much you know, organized most of them. And then Kara. 383 00:19:37.279 --> 00:19:40.319 Of course, Kara was smiling and it seemed like she 384 00:19:40.400 --> 00:19:42.519 never really been out in this limelight meeting fans like 385 00:19:42.519 --> 00:19:44.920 that because she'd been living in La so she probably 386 00:19:44.920 --> 00:19:47.039 really didn't know the you know, the love for the 387 00:19:47.119 --> 00:19:50.599 hit king, but she saw firsthand firsthand on Sunday. 388 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:51.039 For sure. 389 00:19:51.920 --> 00:19:55.720 Does he now? I mean, do they finally lift the 390 00:19:55.839 --> 00:19:59.480 veil since he has gone and led him into Cooperstown 391 00:19:59.559 --> 00:20:03.720 as a inductee. I mean he's all over the Hall 392 00:20:03.799 --> 00:20:05.039 of Fame anyway. 393 00:20:05.119 --> 00:20:07.119 Well, yeah, but they won't. They won't do that. 394 00:20:07.200 --> 00:20:08.720 They won't do that, I mean, and I don't think 395 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:10.920 the family really wants it, because Pete had said before 396 00:20:10.960 --> 00:20:13.799 he passed, he said, you know this is for you know, 397 00:20:13.839 --> 00:20:15.920 my induction would be not on it for me, but 398 00:20:16.000 --> 00:20:17.359 for my family to enjoy. 399 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:19.200 Well, he wouldn't be there, but they would be there. 400 00:20:19.240 --> 00:20:20.960 I don't. I don't. 401 00:20:20.680 --> 00:20:24.319