WEBVTT 1 00:00:02.200 --> 00:00:05.040 You see, something's going to happen. 2 00:00:06.320 --> 00:00:25.559 What's going to happen? What all right? What's up everyone? 3 00:00:25.600 --> 00:00:28.160 And welcome back to the Biblical hit Man. It's your host, Steven. 4 00:00:28.600 --> 00:00:30.559 My two co hosts are unfortunately not going to be 5 00:00:30.600 --> 00:00:33.359 with me this episode tonight, but joining us for the 6 00:00:33.399 --> 00:00:35.880 first time is Nick with the Occult Rejects. He is 7 00:00:35.920 --> 00:00:38.840 the host of the Occult Rejects. He's got an awesome show. 8 00:00:38.840 --> 00:00:41.359 He's got a bunch of different panelists that come on 9 00:00:41.479 --> 00:00:45.960 talk about very interesting things. 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Thank you, Oh, thank you very much. 29 00:01:43.439 --> 00:01:44.480 I appreciate you having me on. 30 00:01:44.719 --> 00:01:45.040 Thank you. 31 00:01:45.159 --> 00:01:46.840 Yeah, man, Yeah, this is going to be a fun show. 32 00:01:47.239 --> 00:01:51.120 Sorry for the disclaimer, man, because people will at first 33 00:01:51.239 --> 00:01:54.599 get the first their impression of occult rejects. You know, 34 00:01:54.959 --> 00:01:57.879 they can interpret that many different ways. And the audience, 35 00:01:58.079 --> 00:02:01.840 which I love them very much, it could be quick 36 00:02:01.879 --> 00:02:03.719 with the trigger a little bit, which I'm all about. 37 00:02:03.719 --> 00:02:06.719 Shoot first, don't get me wrong. But for the folks 38 00:02:06.799 --> 00:02:09.039 that aren't familiar with your work, where can they find 39 00:02:09.039 --> 00:02:10.960 your content and all that. 40 00:02:12.000 --> 00:02:14.680 On all major podcasts? Uh bit? 41 00:02:14.759 --> 00:02:20.080 Shoot rumble YouTube, I do stream live to Twitch and 42 00:02:19.280 --> 00:02:21.960 h and Facebook. I do stream live. We're also on 43 00:02:22.000 --> 00:02:23.520 Facebook and we have a Facebook group. 44 00:02:23.879 --> 00:02:26.039 So yeah, okay, awesome man. 45 00:02:25.919 --> 00:02:26.719 Awesome, So rumble. 46 00:02:26.759 --> 00:02:28.360 If I mentioned that I might have forgot. 47 00:02:28.479 --> 00:02:30.599 Yeah, yeah, oh yeah. Rumble seems to be one of 48 00:02:30.599 --> 00:02:33.000 those platforms that I may be kind of needing to 49 00:02:33.240 --> 00:02:35.599 create a channel on as well, because. 50 00:02:35.439 --> 00:02:38.280 That one I think is kind of worth it is it, Yeah, 51 00:02:38.879 --> 00:02:41.199 is a little You can only load a two gig videos, 52 00:02:41.159 --> 00:02:44.240 so you got to compress everything. It's just oh really yeah, 53 00:02:44.319 --> 00:02:46.680 Rumble will take like up to fifteen I think of twenty. 54 00:02:46.800 --> 00:02:49.520 So it's like, I, oh, okay, that's not too bad man, 55 00:02:49.599 --> 00:02:52.520 So so real quick man. Your show the Occult Rejects, 56 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:57.759 I've enjoyed. I'm new to your show. I've enjoyed many 57 00:02:57.800 --> 00:03:02.240 of those kinds of topics to yours. It's okay, yeah, yeah, 58 00:03:02.599 --> 00:03:06.319 you know, I've I think when I first joined in 59 00:03:06.360 --> 00:03:08.840 which you've worked with a few friends of mine, Bennett 60 00:03:08.879 --> 00:03:12.159 with Broadcasting Siege and Doc Brown with Prometheus Lens podcast, 61 00:03:12.520 --> 00:03:14.759 which I've seen both of them on your show, and 62 00:03:15.800 --> 00:03:18.240 some interesting topics. I know Doc got on your show 63 00:03:18.319 --> 00:03:21.159 talked about the elongated skulls, the paracae skulls and stuff 64 00:03:21.199 --> 00:03:24.199 like that. And when Bennett was on your show, I 65 00:03:24.199 --> 00:03:27.240 think you guys were getting into pyramids what they may 66 00:03:27.240 --> 00:03:30.800 have been used for. And I mean one of the 67 00:03:30.840 --> 00:03:33.120 dudes that was on the panel, which I think is 68 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:37.080 pretty cool. I've yet to see it a platform like that, 69 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:40.879 having multiple panelists on talking about a subject. But it 70 00:03:40.879 --> 00:03:43.280 seemed to be like they were trying. They were describing 71 00:03:43.280 --> 00:03:47.479 how the Pyramids may have been, you know, big energy 72 00:03:47.919 --> 00:03:52.000 amplifiers or something that was crazy. Yes it was crazy, man, 73 00:03:52.080 --> 00:03:55.919 but I think that, Yeah, what's your what's your show about? 74 00:03:56.960 --> 00:04:00.639 Well, you know, when it started off, it was basically 75 00:04:00.759 --> 00:04:05.039 kind of like focusing on occultism. The co host at 76 00:04:05.080 --> 00:04:07.479 the time that I was working with then was a 77 00:04:07.520 --> 00:04:11.000 little bit more focused on like like covering orders or 78 00:04:11.919 --> 00:04:13.479 I don't know how to put this, but like almost 79 00:04:13.520 --> 00:04:16.800 like like shock value type things like oh, that's the 80 00:04:16.839 --> 00:04:19.439 bad guy, which I mean, is is justified. I mean, 81 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:21.240 we did some great work I think on the Jesters 82 00:04:21.240 --> 00:04:23.199 and the Shriners, you know that I'm proud of. It 83 00:04:23.240 --> 00:04:26.000 doesn't mean they're all screwed up people, but who used 84 00:04:26.000 --> 00:04:28.120 to kind of cover like a lot of things like 85 00:04:28.160 --> 00:04:30.639 showing oh, there's ocultism in there and it's probably bad 86 00:04:30.680 --> 00:04:35.040 this and that, and you know it probably is. But eventually, 87 00:04:36.000 --> 00:04:38.160 you know, the idea of the show was to try 88 00:04:38.199 --> 00:04:40.680 to like you know, explain occultism and like break down, 89 00:04:40.759 --> 00:04:44.160 like you know, it's not always bad, that's in my opinion, 90 00:04:44.600 --> 00:04:46.240 you know. So we wanted to kind of show like 91 00:04:46.319 --> 00:04:49.000 I guess, you know, the positive stuff and point out 92 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:52.480 like how you could be negatively manipulated, you know, both 93 00:04:52.519 --> 00:04:55.439 sides to it. And at the beginning it just seemed 94 00:04:55.439 --> 00:04:57.920 like kind of one sided. And eventually when meaning that 95 00:04:58.040 --> 00:05:00.920 co host kind of split off, I wanted to keep 96 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:03.439 the show going, so I just like started using different people. 97 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:08.439 I just kind of go want more into covering the occult. 98 00:05:09.240 --> 00:05:12.079 I started going more into science with the occult because 99 00:05:12.079 --> 00:05:14.000 that was something I wanted to do from the beginning. 100 00:05:15.000 --> 00:05:17.160 It is of my opinion that there is a lot 101 00:05:17.199 --> 00:05:20.160 of occult symbolism and occult stuff that actually goes back 102 00:05:20.279 --> 00:05:23.920 back to the eyeball, the brain, blood, the spirit leaving 103 00:05:23.920 --> 00:05:26.759 the body. There's a lot of stuff, and I wanted 104 00:05:26.800 --> 00:05:31.079 to start getting into that. So I ended up kind 105 00:05:31.120 --> 00:05:33.240 of like working with other people to try to do 106 00:05:33.240 --> 00:05:35.600 their different things and ended up realizing that I just 107 00:05:35.639 --> 00:05:37.879 kind of started growing like a group of people that 108 00:05:37.920 --> 00:05:42.399 were there for different specialties. You know. I have one girl, Lisa, 109 00:05:42.720 --> 00:05:44.800 you know, she's like getting her PhD. But like she's 110 00:05:44.839 --> 00:05:47.079 there for like physiology and science, like a girl's of 111 00:05:47.120 --> 00:05:49.079 genius when it comes to that. You know, I got 112 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:51.279 like my boy headless Giant. He's really good on Greek 113 00:05:51.319 --> 00:05:54.920 and Roman stuff and Catholicism, and Gen's really good on 114 00:05:54.959 --> 00:05:57.279 like his you know, Japanese or Asiana Buddhism stuff. But 115 00:05:57.360 --> 00:05:58.839 like you know, we got a bunch of different people 116 00:05:59.879 --> 00:06:04.079 and now we're kind of focusing on a whole lot 117 00:06:04.120 --> 00:06:06.040 of things because in my opinion, when it comes to 118 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:09.439 occultism and magic, I think that actually encompasses a lot 119 00:06:09.439 --> 00:06:15.000 of stuff. Like you were talking about the Pyramids, I 120 00:06:15.040 --> 00:06:19.560 think some of that science and technology because people don't 121 00:06:19.639 --> 00:06:22.000 understand it, and some of it, I'll be totally honest 122 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:24.639 with you, it was almost very basic if you actually understood 123 00:06:24.680 --> 00:06:25.360 what was going on. 124 00:06:26.240 --> 00:06:27.120 People don't understand it. 125 00:06:27.120 --> 00:06:28.879 It's been a culted like in a sense, like I 126 00:06:28.879 --> 00:06:31.879 think that actually part of the reasons why I think 127 00:06:31.920 --> 00:06:35.839 it's being covered up is because I think when you'd 128 00:06:35.879 --> 00:06:39.120 realize how this stuff works, it's almost like kind of 129 00:06:39.160 --> 00:06:41.720 like science and that science magic is almost being like 130 00:06:41.800 --> 00:06:44.480 explained to you, Like you'd have to start thinking about 131 00:06:44.519 --> 00:06:46.639 other things and just thinking this world isn't exactly what 132 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:49.560 it is, and I do think it very teeters on magic. 133 00:06:50.639 --> 00:06:53.439 You know, you're doing things with frequencies, you know, changing 134 00:06:53.519 --> 00:06:57.079 things through sound. All that stuff I do think kind 135 00:06:57.079 --> 00:07:01.680 of does all full under magic. So like we may 136 00:07:01.759 --> 00:07:04.560 cover like you know, like you said you saw the Pyramids. Uh, 137 00:07:04.639 --> 00:07:06.879 I'm going to a place myself tomorrow to go film 138 00:07:06.920 --> 00:07:09.160 it because it's supposed to be extremely old. 139 00:07:09.519 --> 00:07:10.399 It's in Alabama. 140 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:12.639 It's like in a park, but yet it's got like 141 00:07:12.759 --> 00:07:14.879 drill holes and you can tell the rocks are cut. 142 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:18.079 So like if you're telling me this is really that old? 143 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:22.160 Like this, what's up with this? So like somebody a 144 00:07:22.199 --> 00:07:23.879 few people are gonna go there and start filming it 145 00:07:23.879 --> 00:07:26.800 and it's really fuck you know, so like stuff like that, 146 00:07:27.120 --> 00:07:28.920 Uh you know I do. 147 00:07:29.279 --> 00:07:30.199 Uh. 148 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:33.120 We had Isshton Forbes on recently, and the reason why 149 00:07:33.160 --> 00:07:35.800 I had him on besides being a big name, him 150 00:07:35.839 --> 00:07:38.240 even talking about this stuff that the government's using, like 151 00:07:38.240 --> 00:07:41.879 the type of government technology and like you know, possible 152 00:07:41.959 --> 00:07:44.480 portal or like non gravity and all that stuff. I 153 00:07:44.519 --> 00:07:47.920 even think all that stuff in a sense starts teetering 154 00:07:47.959 --> 00:07:49.240 into accult science. 155 00:07:48.920 --> 00:07:51.759 And a cult magic. But I mean so like we 156 00:07:51.759 --> 00:07:52.319 we could cover. 157 00:07:52.560 --> 00:07:55.399 One episode could be about the cabbala, the next the 158 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:59.040 next episode could be about water, the next episode could 159 00:07:59.079 --> 00:08:03.040 be about like we've you've covered stuff on birds, because 160 00:08:03.079 --> 00:08:04.920 I do think that's the stuff about them that we 161 00:08:04.959 --> 00:08:07.720 covered in that show is kind of a reason why 162 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:10.920 they're used for a cult symbolism. Their eyes see differently. 163 00:08:12.560 --> 00:08:14.959 There's certain birds now that when they see the sun. 164 00:08:15.120 --> 00:08:18.279 The reason why they're making noises the morning chorus of 165 00:08:18.319 --> 00:08:20.680 the dring Chorus was the name of the episode, is 166 00:08:20.680 --> 00:08:23.199 because they can actually hear the sun with their eyes 167 00:08:23.519 --> 00:08:26.920 and they're tweeting back or you know whatever, back the 168 00:08:26.959 --> 00:08:29.959 sound that they're hearing, you know, And it's just like, 169 00:08:30.279 --> 00:08:32.320 I don't know, do people actually know that that is 170 00:08:32.559 --> 00:08:35.440 going on? You know what I'm saying. It's like weird science, 171 00:08:35.480 --> 00:08:38.480 and like they just things with birds see differently, see 172 00:08:38.600 --> 00:08:41.919 more than humans do. And I guess basically what I'm 173 00:08:41.919 --> 00:08:44.000 getting at is that a lot I've started noticing that 174 00:08:44.080 --> 00:08:47.879 a lot of bees dear, just a lot of animals 175 00:08:47.960 --> 00:08:50.080 that are always used for a cult symbolism. A lot 176 00:08:50.080 --> 00:08:52.639 of them, especially a scorpion. You may not know the 177 00:08:52.679 --> 00:08:56.200 whole shell of a scorpion is retina. The whole body 178 00:08:56.279 --> 00:09:00.440 sees something is up with why you have these things 179 00:09:00.480 --> 00:09:02.639 with special eyes. They seem to be the common things 180 00:09:02.639 --> 00:09:04.919 that always popping up to being used in the cult symbolism. 181 00:09:05.440 --> 00:09:08.320 So like that's why we we even covered stuff, weird 182 00:09:08.320 --> 00:09:11.279 stuff about birds. But I mean, like we do we 183 00:09:11.399 --> 00:09:14.000 jump all over the place, you know, taro one week, 184 00:09:14.080 --> 00:09:17.600 then we could have true crime that's covering a cult, 185 00:09:18.000 --> 00:09:19.440 you know, And then again that would be the way 186 00:09:19.480 --> 00:09:21.559 of showing you like, this is how people get manipulated. 187 00:09:22.039 --> 00:09:24.399 This is how you know sick people, do you know? 188 00:09:24.440 --> 00:09:26.200 That's why I recovered that this is a reminder you 189 00:09:26.240 --> 00:09:29.120 know there's sick people out there using magic to manipulate. 190 00:09:28.679 --> 00:09:32.720 People, right, right, And so I mean my my knowledge 191 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:36.639 of things pertaining to the occult, and it's based off 192 00:09:36.679 --> 00:09:39.840 of pretty much certain books that I've I've read, you know, 193 00:09:39.879 --> 00:09:44.159 either by Tom Horn, Gary Wayne, you know, Isaac Wisop. 194 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:46.879 You know, they've they've referenced a lot of occultist, right 195 00:09:47.000 --> 00:09:51.080 I would say, renowned occultists where you know Elana Boblotsky, 196 00:09:51.759 --> 00:09:56.679 Alice Bailey, you know Crowley, Jack Parsons, on and on 197 00:09:56.720 --> 00:09:58.759 and on, right, Like these are like the major leaguers. 198 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:00.399 But one of the. 199 00:10:00.320 --> 00:10:02.840 Funny thing is is that you sorry to interrupt you, 200 00:10:02.879 --> 00:10:06.960 but let's say they are like like you would consider 201 00:10:06.960 --> 00:10:09.120 them like almost like neo, Like they're so new in it. 202 00:10:09.200 --> 00:10:12.320 It's like nobody looks before them, and if you're sort 203 00:10:12.320 --> 00:10:14.159 of looking at the people before them, you'd see that 204 00:10:14.200 --> 00:10:17.600 they completely rip them off. It's just like the wildest 205 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:19.799 thing because like even though those people are already dead, 206 00:10:19.840 --> 00:10:22.240 it's like those are like those are just the last 207 00:10:22.240 --> 00:10:25.200 famous names of the less hundreds of thousands of years 208 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:27.960 of magicians that came before them, You know what I'm saying. 209 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:31.879 It's just you know, people, if you look before Crowleyan, 210 00:10:31.919 --> 00:10:35.000 before Parsons, that other alchemists, you'll see exactly where a 211 00:10:35.039 --> 00:10:36.000 lot of that are working from. 212 00:10:36.000 --> 00:10:38.679 In my opinion, Yeah, and especially too right, like looking 213 00:10:38.720 --> 00:10:42.559 back in history when you see the Egyptian Empire, Romans, Greeks, 214 00:10:43.480 --> 00:10:47.919 uh Mesopotamians, on and on and on, that it seemed 215 00:10:47.960 --> 00:10:51.960 to be that magic or occult practices was a part 216 00:10:52.039 --> 00:10:55.399 of the elite's lifestyle or something like that. At least 217 00:10:55.399 --> 00:10:57.600 I would say that because of the mystery schools in 218 00:10:57.639 --> 00:11:00.360 the way that they keep these things in secrets, see 219 00:11:01.600 --> 00:11:05.240 that the only ones that really knew how to practice 220 00:11:05.240 --> 00:11:07.559 these certain things were to be like the elites back 221 00:11:07.559 --> 00:11:08.039 in the day. 222 00:11:08.399 --> 00:11:10.600 The elites would pay people to actually they would be 223 00:11:10.679 --> 00:11:13.360 a patron and they they'd hire a cult this and 224 00:11:13.440 --> 00:11:14.840 pay them and be like, yeah, I want to try 225 00:11:14.879 --> 00:11:16.039 to do this in that figure it out. 226 00:11:16.080 --> 00:11:18.240 Like they literally would do that back then. 227 00:11:18.879 --> 00:11:21.159 Well, almost like paying a fortune teller right in a 228 00:11:21.200 --> 00:11:24.279 way to hey, you know, get this done for me 229 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:26.519 or help me out with this. Yeah, the people with 230 00:11:26.600 --> 00:11:29.279 that kind of secret scientific knowledge or whatever. Because I 231 00:11:29.639 --> 00:11:32.039 think there is a science behind it. And again I 232 00:11:32.080 --> 00:11:35.440 don't I don't. I don't advocate for practicing these certain 233 00:11:35.480 --> 00:11:39.799 things because at least from what I know biblically that 234 00:11:39.960 --> 00:11:41.519 it seems to be there could be a lot of 235 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:45.600 deceiving entities that are behind these certain things and rule 236 00:11:45.720 --> 00:11:50.039 in like these dark rulers within or behind the curtain, 237 00:11:50.279 --> 00:11:52.679 if that makes any sense. Well, and I think it 238 00:11:52.759 --> 00:11:55.440 plays along with what you were saying, where you know, 239 00:11:55.600 --> 00:11:59.080 at Crowley and all these guys, they seem to rip off, 240 00:11:59.799 --> 00:12:04.039 you know, or or tarnish what maybe people before them 241 00:12:04.399 --> 00:12:07.759 were doing that were involved with magic or whatever. And 242 00:12:07.759 --> 00:12:10.200 and it seemed like they there, they were more sinister 243 00:12:10.519 --> 00:12:11.360 with their plans. 244 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:14.240 Even if you staw looking at the people that they 245 00:12:14.320 --> 00:12:18.080 ripped off in their work, they were very open about 246 00:12:18.080 --> 00:12:19.960 what they're trying to do. You start looking at these 247 00:12:20.039 --> 00:12:22.320 new ones and it's all either ciphered or it's just 248 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:24.279 like you can't even it's not even being handed to 249 00:12:24.320 --> 00:12:26.120 you for you to understand the way it's supposed to 250 00:12:26.159 --> 00:12:28.799 be understood, right, almost like we're going to hand you 251 00:12:28.879 --> 00:12:31.600 in a way that you do something horrible something good. 252 00:12:32.679 --> 00:12:35.080 Right, So with this, So from what I've read, at 253 00:12:35.159 --> 00:12:39.600 least from Isaac Wisop's UFOs, Aliens and the Occult. This 254 00:12:39.639 --> 00:12:41.639 is a book he wrote, but in there he talks 255 00:12:41.679 --> 00:12:45.960 about the Kabbalah. But then he also talks about the 256 00:12:46.600 --> 00:12:52.039 dof right d a a th h or I forget 257 00:12:52.080 --> 00:12:56.399 the clip clip off, the clip both right. Okay, So 258 00:12:57.840 --> 00:13:02.000 tell me a little bit about about those two distinctions. 259 00:13:02.080 --> 00:13:06.159 Well, the clipoff is supposed to be like the negative tree. Uh, 260 00:13:06.360 --> 00:13:08.840 you have the tree of life, the cabalistic tree of life. 261 00:13:09.600 --> 00:13:12.200 Doth is like a newert. It's kind of a newer 262 00:13:12.279 --> 00:13:15.320 sphere on there that it normally originally had. Ten Doth 263 00:13:15.440 --> 00:13:18.799 is the eleventh and it's not like a kind of 264 00:13:18.879 --> 00:13:21.679 right below the supernal trier the first three on the top. 265 00:13:22.399 --> 00:13:22.879 Uh. 266 00:13:23.200 --> 00:13:27.519 My opinion, that's edded dad, because that's the understanding of 267 00:13:27.559 --> 00:13:30.440 both sides. Now, like you that one doesn't apply it 268 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:32.519 until you cross the abyss and come back in my opinion, 269 00:13:34.120 --> 00:13:37.240 but the clipoff is just a reflection. I'm not even 270 00:13:37.279 --> 00:13:40.080 really huge into the clipoff because I think people it's 271 00:13:40.120 --> 00:13:42.200 misunderstood and people like take it the wrong way and 272 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:44.720 get lost when they're not supposed to be. Like really, 273 00:13:46.000 --> 00:13:47.559 a lot of people I think end up putting more 274 00:13:47.639 --> 00:13:51.279 chains on them removing them. That's just my opinion. The 275 00:13:51.320 --> 00:13:53.120 clipoff is more of kind of like the negative side 276 00:13:53.159 --> 00:13:54.679 of the tree that shows you like well, like I 277 00:13:54.720 --> 00:13:57.080 guess the demonic aspect or like that's how people would 278 00:13:57.080 --> 00:14:00.440 put it my opinion. It's just like what part of 279 00:14:00.440 --> 00:14:03.879 your brain makes you a piece of shit, and uh, 280 00:14:04.080 --> 00:14:09.799 you're supposed to contrary to popular belief, you're supposed to 281 00:14:09.919 --> 00:14:13.919 like destroy these things and become free. Most people think, 282 00:14:13.960 --> 00:14:16.320 I guess when they hear the clipoff, you're just automatically 283 00:14:16.480 --> 00:14:18.960 evoking demons to go ass rape someone. I don't know, 284 00:14:19.080 --> 00:14:22.039 but from how I know that it's supposed to be used. 285 00:14:22.039 --> 00:14:24.039 You're supposed to render your demons and destroy it so 286 00:14:24.039 --> 00:14:26.720 you can have an experience with God. That is kind 287 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:28.679 of the clipoff is like showing you, like the negative 288 00:14:28.720 --> 00:14:31.279 aspects that you could use and positive like that that 289 00:14:31.639 --> 00:14:34.360 is associated with it to kind of give you to 290 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:36.879 use characters that have personalities that kind of give you 291 00:14:36.919 --> 00:14:42.840 an idea of what you're dealing with. I mean, like 292 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:46.320 a title maybe yeah, yeah, it's tell you the truth, 293 00:14:46.919 --> 00:14:49.320 doesn't it sound crazy? Yeah? 294 00:14:49.360 --> 00:14:49.440 That? 295 00:14:49.559 --> 00:14:52.279 Or it's like tell you it's gonna sound crazy. Be 296 00:14:52.320 --> 00:14:54.360 the same thing as a radio station. It's a frequency 297 00:14:54.399 --> 00:14:56.320 that you're giving a name to a opinon. You know, 298 00:14:56.399 --> 00:14:58.360 either this is Z one hundred or this is K rock. 299 00:14:58.840 --> 00:15:01.639 You know what I'm saying. It's it's just you're just 300 00:15:01.639 --> 00:15:03.960 trying to give a description to something that's a little 301 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:08.480 bit different. Yeah, a lot of my opinion, Like again, 302 00:15:08.519 --> 00:15:10.039 a lot of people if they're using the cliple, if 303 00:15:10.039 --> 00:15:11.639 you're supposed to be using it to do it can 304 00:15:11.720 --> 00:15:14.480 shat or work, which is supposed to like, you know, 305 00:15:14.600 --> 00:15:16.639 work on yourself to become a better person. Try to 306 00:15:16.679 --> 00:15:19.159 figure out, like what gets you fearful and angry? And 307 00:15:19.200 --> 00:15:22.200 try to work on that stuff. Unfortunately, though, when I've 308 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:26.600 seen most people, you know, magicians that do that, you know, 309 00:15:26.600 --> 00:15:29.320 more than half of them normally like feed the demons 310 00:15:29.360 --> 00:15:32.240 more than actually getting rid of them. Unfortunately, just just 311 00:15:32.399 --> 00:15:33.240 that happens. 312 00:15:34.039 --> 00:15:36.639 Yeah, So when there there, it seems to be too 313 00:15:36.759 --> 00:15:40.279 something with the occult. It seems to be like there's 314 00:15:40.279 --> 00:15:43.039 this duality to it. What do you think this duality 315 00:15:43.159 --> 00:15:46.360 is or why does it exist? 316 00:15:46.639 --> 00:15:50.720 Uh? My opinion, I think the duality when it comes 317 00:15:50.759 --> 00:15:52.679 down to magic and this is just my opinion, and 318 00:15:52.720 --> 00:15:55.039 it all goes back to really you could boil it 319 00:15:55.080 --> 00:15:59.120 down to electricity and magnetism. So you're gonna have something 320 00:15:59.120 --> 00:16:02.200 that's a projective for and something that's receiving for us, 321 00:16:02.519 --> 00:16:03.759 or something that like pulls in. 322 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:07.000 Okay, so something similar to like a ying and a yang. 323 00:16:07.120 --> 00:16:10.399 Yes, yes, very much or yeah, or like even a pendulum. 324 00:16:10.440 --> 00:16:11.720 It's got to swing back the other way at some 325 00:16:11.759 --> 00:16:13.360 point you another direct gotcha? 326 00:16:13.799 --> 00:16:16.919 Gotcha? And it's like when I think of these things too, right, 327 00:16:17.440 --> 00:16:19.240 you know, like just as a Christian, I think of 328 00:16:19.320 --> 00:16:22.679 the Garden of Eden, I think about I think about 329 00:16:22.720 --> 00:16:25.120 the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and evil because 330 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:27.360 that's the only thing that I see, at least in 331 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:30.519 the beginning when things kind of got somehow jacked up, 332 00:16:31.159 --> 00:16:35.559 that there was this this tree of duality that is 333 00:16:35.840 --> 00:16:39.679 the one who's guilty of, you know, causing man to 334 00:16:39.759 --> 00:16:43.600 fall right in this idea, and and that that person 335 00:16:43.639 --> 00:16:46.360 in the Bible is the serpent. Right. But then there's 336 00:16:46.600 --> 00:16:48.960 a multiple titles we don't really know exactly, like the 337 00:16:49.039 --> 00:16:54.559 name you know, Satan, Lucifer the devil, but is what's 338 00:16:54.679 --> 00:16:58.519 what are your thoughts with, you know, Lucifer and his involvement, 339 00:17:00.559 --> 00:17:03.399 you know, the occult. Is this just a fictitious thing 340 00:17:03.480 --> 00:17:04.480 that people make up? 341 00:17:04.599 --> 00:17:07.759 Or I think it's again, it's like a it's like 342 00:17:07.799 --> 00:17:10.319 a name given to an experience or something that's happening. 343 00:17:10.799 --> 00:17:16.359 My opinion this might sound harsh a little bresh, but 344 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:17.920 I think as long as you have your eyes open 345 00:17:17.960 --> 00:17:19.480 and you're in love with the world, that you're in 346 00:17:19.559 --> 00:17:24.160 your under Lucifer's control. If you're in love with something 347 00:17:24.160 --> 00:17:26.599 besides having an experience with God, you're in Lucifer's control. 348 00:17:26.759 --> 00:17:29.200 He's giving you bling, bling stuff to fall in love 349 00:17:29.200 --> 00:17:30.559 with and forget about God. 350 00:17:31.799 --> 00:17:34.279 Right right, I mean, it seems to be a characteristic right, 351 00:17:34.319 --> 00:17:38.000 that that he has that that he in some way, 352 00:17:38.000 --> 00:17:40.519 shape or form. And I think that's why a lot 353 00:17:40.599 --> 00:17:44.279 of these these at least the bloodlines. And I don't 354 00:17:44.279 --> 00:17:47.680 know if you dug too deep into this, but uh, 355 00:17:47.720 --> 00:17:51.680 you know, the bloodlines as far as these elites, these 356 00:17:51.799 --> 00:17:55.400 these families, you know, apparently there's like this black nobility 357 00:17:55.440 --> 00:17:59.119 that maybe running and controlling everything. As far as that 358 00:17:59.680 --> 00:18:04.599 and the fact that they they have everything that they've 359 00:18:04.640 --> 00:18:08.720 ever wanted of the world, right, what do you think 360 00:18:08.839 --> 00:18:10.279 like they're getting in return? 361 00:18:14.160 --> 00:18:16.119 I think some of them by just magno maniac. 362 00:18:17.160 --> 00:18:19.200 Yeah. I also because you can't deny right like that 363 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:23.839 these people are I think if you're just more believers, 364 00:18:23.839 --> 00:18:24.400 maybe right. 365 00:18:24.680 --> 00:18:26.599 But I think some people though that might have the 366 00:18:26.640 --> 00:18:28.400 money in the time, are just like I could just 367 00:18:28.400 --> 00:18:29.880 be an answer and get away with it and do 368 00:18:29.920 --> 00:18:31.799 it like it could just be that's sick. But uh, 369 00:18:32.000 --> 00:18:37.039 I mean, I there's a couple of reasons. Sometimes. I 370 00:18:37.079 --> 00:18:39.799 do think like some of them that are in the 371 00:18:39.880 --> 00:18:43.160 know might like think there's like certain like kind and 372 00:18:43.279 --> 00:18:45.319 that sound like some doomsday call, but maybe there's like 373 00:18:45.359 --> 00:18:47.480 certain things that they think may happen in the future 374 00:18:48.119 --> 00:18:49.640 and they want to make sure they're prepared or to 375 00:18:49.640 --> 00:18:53.759 try to like maybe like let's say this is a possibility, 376 00:18:54.400 --> 00:18:56.319 because like I'm not saying this is real. Which this 377 00:18:56.400 --> 00:18:59.119 is an example. I can't remember what two planets it 378 00:18:59.160 --> 00:19:02.319 was so far, but plans to flipped ringing the poles 379 00:19:02.319 --> 00:19:04.559 have flip if the next one flips, I mean, I 380 00:19:04.599 --> 00:19:07.200 hate to say, we're probably all going to flip and 381 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:10.839 we're gonna die. Uh if Mars eventually does it, then 382 00:19:10.839 --> 00:19:12.480 we're just gonna sit here and wait, like when is 383 00:19:12.480 --> 00:19:13.400 it happening to us? 384 00:19:13.839 --> 00:19:15.519 But like there are people who think that they. 385 00:19:15.480 --> 00:19:19.079 Can somehow survive that, you know, or is there some 386 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:21.119 people that might want to build technology thinking they can 387 00:19:21.119 --> 00:19:23.640 stop the poll from shifting? You know. 388 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:26.359 So interesting and I think too, that's funny you bring 389 00:19:26.359 --> 00:19:26.680 that up. 390 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:28.559 Because just any situation, you know. 391 00:19:29.519 --> 00:19:31.759 Yeah, And I think it's called what the Adam and 392 00:19:31.799 --> 00:19:35.160 Eve project or something like that or something like that. 393 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:38.920 I think it was Jeremy Corsetti was talking about it 394 00:19:38.920 --> 00:19:42.200 on Joe Rogan's show, where there's this concept of the 395 00:19:42.200 --> 00:19:45.200 poles flipping, and with you bringing up the fact that 396 00:19:45.240 --> 00:19:48.240 it could be like this where it would be this cataclysm, 397 00:19:48.799 --> 00:19:51.279 it just makes me think of all of the underground 398 00:19:51.319 --> 00:19:56.440 bunkers that these elites are building and getting ready for whatever, 399 00:19:56.519 --> 00:19:58.359 you know, And there's a lot of propaganda out there 400 00:19:58.400 --> 00:20:03.119 right Like there's a you know, comments out there, Apofice, there's. 401 00:20:03.319 --> 00:20:06.079 Alpous Rex like even names that are used in the. 402 00:20:06.000 --> 00:20:08.720 Occult atlist as well. I think Atlas is one of 403 00:20:08.720 --> 00:20:11.240 the newer ones as well. So why do you think 404 00:20:11.279 --> 00:20:14.599 they use these occult names for these things? 405 00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:19.039 Well, I don't know if you may not know this, 406 00:20:19.160 --> 00:20:20.720 and most people may not know this. I'm not sure 407 00:20:20.720 --> 00:20:22.119 if this is the exact reason, but I do want 408 00:20:22.160 --> 00:20:23.759 to mention this, since we're talking about out of space, 409 00:20:24.480 --> 00:20:26.680 every model that we've ever accepted has been given to 410 00:20:26.759 --> 00:20:31.160 us from an alchemist slash ocultist. Yes, the first one 411 00:20:31.200 --> 00:20:33.440 and then the second one. So right there, off the 412 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:36.200 bad what you think is out there, you're believing from 413 00:20:36.240 --> 00:20:40.039 an ocultist. So I don't really trust too much of 414 00:20:40.400 --> 00:20:43.400 what's really out there. But again, I think because of 415 00:20:43.440 --> 00:20:46.680 the maybe the nod to occultism, this is, you know, 416 00:20:46.839 --> 00:20:49.359 that's why they still stick with the names. But one 417 00:20:49.440 --> 00:20:53.200 of this is just one of my theories, and I 418 00:20:53.240 --> 00:20:55.240 think I might somewhat be right, and other people have 419 00:20:55.279 --> 00:20:59.519 even noticed it on the show. I do think these names, 420 00:21:00.680 --> 00:21:05.000 even especially from NASA, they're actually like kind of putting 421 00:21:05.000 --> 00:21:07.480 out a message, Like I actually think there is a 422 00:21:07.839 --> 00:21:09.599 there's a cult value in there if you want this name. 423 00:21:09.640 --> 00:21:13.119 What they're saying, that's why. I actually think like they're 424 00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:16.880 kind of telling you something, but not what you not 425 00:21:17.039 --> 00:21:18.960 the way that we're normally looking at it. 426 00:21:20.039 --> 00:21:22.839 Mm hmm. Yeah, that's fascinating because like you'll get. 427 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:25.759 The numbers and you'll get planets. It's really weird. Like 428 00:21:25.799 --> 00:21:27.680 even if you start looking into some of the planets 429 00:21:27.680 --> 00:21:29.240 and like the rings and the moons and this and that, 430 00:21:29.279 --> 00:21:31.480 you start seeing numbers that like even match like where 431 00:21:31.480 --> 00:21:33.319 they fall on the tree or certain things with them, 432 00:21:33.319 --> 00:21:36.680 and it's just like yo, like it's like a little 433 00:21:36.680 --> 00:21:39.960 bit too you know, weird, right because like we had 434 00:21:40.000 --> 00:21:43.200 the Cabala before we supposedly even knew that these things 435 00:21:43.240 --> 00:21:44.799 were probably you know, names for me. 436 00:21:45.920 --> 00:21:48.279 Yeah, why do you think they name? Like why is 437 00:21:48.319 --> 00:21:52.480 there paganism mixed in with occultism that you. 438 00:21:52.480 --> 00:21:55.839 Can kind of who was it? I think it might've 439 00:21:55.839 --> 00:21:59.440 been more silly a Ficino. He was kind of big 440 00:21:59.519 --> 00:22:02.000 with doing that. He was became a Jesuit priest at 441 00:22:02.000 --> 00:22:04.000 one point, but he was kind of known for adding 442 00:22:04.000 --> 00:22:07.279 a little bit of paganism to it. That's when I 443 00:22:07.319 --> 00:22:10.880 covered him and researched into him. You know, a couple 444 00:22:10.920 --> 00:22:14.759 of people coined him as like being somebody who's trying 445 00:22:14.759 --> 00:22:18.880 to insert pagan uh not insert, but like at one point, 446 00:22:18.920 --> 00:22:24.200 the Catholic Church was like paying attention to this stuff. 447 00:22:25.039 --> 00:22:27.759 You know. They had you had Pico Dello del Mirandola, 448 00:22:28.559 --> 00:22:32.240 who was like got the Kabbala to start being looked at, 449 00:22:32.359 --> 00:22:34.960 you know by Catholics and Christians. So like they the 450 00:22:35.000 --> 00:22:37.200 Catholic Church at one point, probably between like the fifteen 451 00:22:37.279 --> 00:22:39.359 hundreds and the seventeen hundreds, they were like on and 452 00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:41.519 popping with like looking at tons of stuff and not 453 00:22:41.680 --> 00:22:43.319 you know being you know, not saying, oh, we can't 454 00:22:43.319 --> 00:22:45.480 look at that, even though they're telling everybody else they can. 455 00:22:45.920 --> 00:22:47.359 But you know what I'm saying, like they had people 456 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:50.119 that are like researching and like making my opinion, making 457 00:22:50.160 --> 00:22:53.880 real breakthroughs and understandings of the of the Bible, and 458 00:22:54.079 --> 00:22:58.640 uh he uh so like he was saying that kind 459 00:22:58.640 --> 00:23:01.160 of kept that so it eve like like I was 460 00:23:01.200 --> 00:23:04.000 saying before, like a character to try to describe something. 461 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:10.160 Yeah, it's wild too, man, I mean I was. I 462 00:23:10.200 --> 00:23:12.519 was reading a book it's called God's Eye View, written 463 00:23:12.519 --> 00:23:14.200 by Trevor Lowman, and we had him on the show 464 00:23:14.960 --> 00:23:18.119 not too long ago. He was explaining how, you know, 465 00:23:18.599 --> 00:23:22.079 the religious group and the scientific group, how they would 466 00:23:22.079 --> 00:23:28.160 clash in the beginning of things, you know, to where, 467 00:23:28.519 --> 00:23:30.039 and I think it was. I think it was just 468 00:23:30.079 --> 00:23:32.960 a lot of roadblocks between the both of them, which 469 00:23:33.000 --> 00:23:35.319 is why they just never kind of came to an 470 00:23:35.400 --> 00:23:38.640 understanding with these things. But why do you why do 471 00:23:38.720 --> 00:23:43.599 you think these like do you think the scientists today, uh, 472 00:23:44.440 --> 00:23:48.920 are are in a way modern day occultists or they 473 00:23:49.000 --> 00:23:51.640 you know, like have they been have the occultists been 474 00:23:51.640 --> 00:23:54.119 rebranded into science scientists? 475 00:23:54.720 --> 00:23:55.000 Well? 476 00:23:55.799 --> 00:23:58.000 Actually yes, and believe it or not. 477 00:23:58.160 --> 00:23:59.880 That was the name that occultist used to use back 478 00:23:59.880 --> 00:24:01.880 in day to begin with, the scientists wasn't a cultist, 479 00:24:02.519 --> 00:24:04.279 So it's just basically going back to the way it 480 00:24:04.359 --> 00:24:08.200 used to be. But uh yeah, yeah, yes, and no, 481 00:24:08.319 --> 00:24:10.680 I do think a lot of scientists are. I mean, 482 00:24:10.720 --> 00:24:12.720 there are people that I know that have PhDs that 483 00:24:12.759 --> 00:24:14.839 are studying stuff and they're ocultists for sure. I mean 484 00:24:14.880 --> 00:24:17.000 they're involved in orders or even like you know kind 485 00:24:17.000 --> 00:24:22.079 of part of like you know, running it. Uh I. 486 00:24:22.079 --> 00:24:22.920 I think. 487 00:24:26.359 --> 00:24:28.559 I do think people in science in certain areas are 488 00:24:28.559 --> 00:24:31.000 starting to catch on now to certain stuff, like I'm 489 00:24:31.000 --> 00:24:34.039 talking about like these megalis structures, you know, like like 490 00:24:34.119 --> 00:24:36.319 put it this way, like they're starting to realize now 491 00:24:36.319 --> 00:24:38.680 that they had it. Like stuff possibly back from the 492 00:24:38.720 --> 00:24:41.880 medieval times, there was a box that like would actually 493 00:24:41.960 --> 00:24:45.799 compress a frequency. It was like an organic box that 494 00:24:46.279 --> 00:24:49.039 if it pressed, it compressed it under four hurts. And 495 00:24:49.039 --> 00:24:51.680 I surely this is like shit that's like in papers, 496 00:24:51.680 --> 00:24:55.480 published papers, and it has been reviewed. It would drive 497 00:24:55.680 --> 00:24:59.160 people crazy. So it was actually like a weapon that 498 00:24:59.200 --> 00:25:01.160 they would use or some sometimes you know those those 499 00:25:01.240 --> 00:25:03.359 castles that you'd see like those little things just sticking 500 00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:05.559 up like along it's always along the side of a river. 501 00:25:06.480 --> 00:25:08.400 They would like have them in there. And it was 502 00:25:08.440 --> 00:25:10.759 almost kind of like a like a wall weapon. So 503 00:25:10.839 --> 00:25:12.319 like if you got close to it. The problem with 504 00:25:12.359 --> 00:25:14.359 it they couldn't direct it, so it would just admit 505 00:25:14.400 --> 00:25:16.559 all over to a certain distance. If you got close 506 00:25:16.599 --> 00:25:18.519 to it, you started hallucinating, and if you got like 507 00:25:18.559 --> 00:25:22.240 too bad, you'd either kill yourself or other people, and 508 00:25:22.359 --> 00:25:23.960 this is this is something they had back in the 509 00:25:23.960 --> 00:25:26.400 time when you have supposedly had. That's another thing. That 510 00:25:26.680 --> 00:25:29.960 stuff wasn't a moat. These things are power generators and 511 00:25:30.000 --> 00:25:31.640 that what that water is. I mean they're literally even 512 00:25:31.640 --> 00:25:33.920 starting to find that out too, that now all these castles, 513 00:25:33.920 --> 00:25:36.240 all these things that we thought was all for this 514 00:25:36.359 --> 00:25:40.079 and that no, these things are generating energy. And like 515 00:25:40.119 --> 00:25:42.519 I'm not making that up, Like they're starting to notice that. 516 00:25:42.799 --> 00:25:45.880 Do you think it was like simple back then but 517 00:25:46.039 --> 00:25:46.799 more advanced? 518 00:25:47.000 --> 00:25:51.279 Yes, yes, for sure, you would have gave them an 519 00:25:51.319 --> 00:25:53.000 iPhone back then. They would have fucked everything up and 520 00:25:53.000 --> 00:25:56.960 probably did nothing, you know what I'm saying, Like, yeah, yeah, 521 00:25:57.119 --> 00:25:58.920 they would have found out what porn was and nothing 522 00:25:58.920 --> 00:25:59.799 would have got built. 523 00:26:02.039 --> 00:26:05.920 Exactly. And And what's what's crazy too, because and I 524 00:26:05.920 --> 00:26:08.079 don't know if you believe in the flood narrative or whatever, 525 00:26:08.119 --> 00:26:11.039 but ancient cultures they've talked about the Bible talks about it. 526 00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:15.440 I believe in the Antediluvian epoch times where this was 527 00:26:15.799 --> 00:26:20.119 an advanced civilization, that this was you know, people that 528 00:26:20.240 --> 00:26:23.640 were very heavily involved in the occult right or the 529 00:26:23.759 --> 00:26:28.400 you know, the Seven sciences, and that that civilization was 530 00:26:28.519 --> 00:26:32.480 in this Golden age at some period, you know, And 531 00:26:33.279 --> 00:26:35.119 I wanted to ask you this, do you do you 532 00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:40.480 think these things were taught to us or was it 533 00:26:40.559 --> 00:26:44.920 just a part of learning for the human like in 534 00:26:45.000 --> 00:26:48.319 the human experience, like like was it taught to us 535 00:26:48.359 --> 00:26:52.480 by you know, fallen angels or extra tragic magic and 536 00:26:52.480 --> 00:26:58.440 occultism or Yeah, I think it's may sound crazy, but 537 00:26:58.599 --> 00:27:01.359 I think. 538 00:27:01.920 --> 00:27:04.880 If somebody was to have an experience of death and 539 00:27:04.920 --> 00:27:10.720 that maybe actually like come back, you're gonna understand. It's 540 00:27:10.720 --> 00:27:16.400 gonna you're gonna know anyway, because what I guess, long 541 00:27:16.440 --> 00:27:20.279 story short, and it's just gonna sound crazy. I'm not 542 00:27:20.400 --> 00:27:22.680 saying I'm Jesus, and there's plenty of other people that 543 00:27:22.720 --> 00:27:24.839 have had this experience besides me, and don't say that, 544 00:27:24.920 --> 00:27:27.359 but my opinion, and if if you were gonna have 545 00:27:27.400 --> 00:27:31.240 a magical experience, you're actually committing suicide. You're gonna have 546 00:27:31.319 --> 00:27:33.960 to die and leave your body because God ain't coming 547 00:27:34.000 --> 00:27:36.000 to me. I gotta go to him. You know, I 548 00:27:36.000 --> 00:27:36.559 can't do it. 549 00:27:36.480 --> 00:27:37.240 In the flesh. 550 00:27:37.440 --> 00:27:41.599 I gotta do it in the spirit. So the experience 551 00:27:41.599 --> 00:27:45.599 of death, He'll definitely talk to the man at some 552 00:27:45.599 --> 00:27:48.720 point or at least he'll talk to you and you 553 00:27:48.839 --> 00:27:51.440 come back, you will have the same understanding that I think. 554 00:27:51.319 --> 00:27:52.319 All these other people have. 555 00:27:53.400 --> 00:27:57.359 Because it's gonna sound crazy, but like when you open 556 00:27:57.440 --> 00:27:59.119 up your eyes, you're gonna know stuff you never knew before. 557 00:28:01.400 --> 00:28:05.440 Sure, yeah, yeah man. And it's uh I think too, 558 00:28:05.599 --> 00:28:09.640 what what happens when when people have those NDEs, right, 559 00:28:09.680 --> 00:28:12.799 like those near death experiences, like they they some. 560 00:28:12.839 --> 00:28:15.440 Of them drastically changes them for the rest of their life. 561 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:19.200 Oh, I agree entirely, And I think that it almost 562 00:28:19.240 --> 00:28:22.880 has like a similar effect to how maybe psychedelics are 563 00:28:22.880 --> 00:28:25.839 being like at a therapy, at a therapeutical life. 564 00:28:25.880 --> 00:28:29.400 Yeah, it's like kind of like like crawling the thin 565 00:28:29.440 --> 00:28:31.599 ice and not breaking and completely going through it. 566 00:28:31.799 --> 00:28:32.559 I see what you're saying. 567 00:28:32.559 --> 00:28:34.960 With like the the I do think with the hallucinogenics 568 00:28:34.960 --> 00:28:37.119 of certain drugs, it does kind of get you close 569 00:28:37.200 --> 00:28:39.920 to like the thinning of the veil. Yeah, very much. 570 00:28:40.640 --> 00:28:43.039 Yeah, Yeah, And I think too that's why they kind 571 00:28:43.039 --> 00:28:46.279 of are regulating these things in the public nowadays, because 572 00:28:47.000 --> 00:28:48.880 I don't know, if you're familiar, you may be familiar 573 00:28:48.920 --> 00:28:52.960 with the term, but it's it's almost like it's the 574 00:28:53.039 --> 00:28:55.079 it's like the Tulpa effect. Are you familiar with the 575 00:28:55.160 --> 00:29:00.839 tulpa effect? Right? The ancient Tibetan was a Buddhist Buddhism, 576 00:29:01.240 --> 00:29:04.440 I believe it is. I see that today. I see 577 00:29:04.440 --> 00:29:10.599 that especially being especially when when you mix psychedelics at 578 00:29:10.640 --> 00:29:15.039 a recreational level with other drugs. Right. It could even 579 00:29:15.119 --> 00:29:17.880 just be other drugs that are were illegal but now 580 00:29:17.880 --> 00:29:22.519 they're becoming more legal. That you mix that with propaganda, 581 00:29:23.079 --> 00:29:25.759 and now you might get like the ultimate Tulpa effect. 582 00:29:25.920 --> 00:29:29.759 It just depends on what like the propaganda is like 583 00:29:29.839 --> 00:29:35.839 for example, like UFOs. Right. Well, I'll use this example, 584 00:29:35.880 --> 00:29:38.519 like the slender Man. Right, Like the slender Man came 585 00:29:38.519 --> 00:29:39.960 out in two thousand and nine. This is when it 586 00:29:40.039 --> 00:29:45.039 was circulating around the Internet, and it was a term 587 00:29:45.240 --> 00:29:49.240 being pushed into the public a lot more. And because 588 00:29:49.480 --> 00:29:53.880 it was being frequently talked about, people were having the 589 00:29:53.960 --> 00:29:56.599 ideas of it, which then the ideas became beliefs, and 590 00:29:56.640 --> 00:30:00.960 then the beliefs, the beliefs became manifested and people were 591 00:30:01.000 --> 00:30:05.440 actually having this contact with this entity called the slender Man. Right, 592 00:30:05.599 --> 00:30:09.400 and even two girls I think from two different areas. 593 00:30:10.079 --> 00:30:13.680 Some people get killed over that, yeah, yeah, yeah, they 594 00:30:14.160 --> 00:30:18.480 stabbed I forget who they stabbed nineteen times, which nineteen 595 00:30:18.519 --> 00:30:20.640 two I think is an occult number. But that's interesting 596 00:30:20.799 --> 00:30:24.319 just to say at least up a lot lately, right, 597 00:30:25.359 --> 00:30:29.759 And I even think with numerology that's that's a I, right, 598 00:30:29.839 --> 00:30:32.960 so A being number one, I being the ninth letter. 599 00:30:34.319 --> 00:30:38.519 But I found that interesting that even another girl, you 600 00:30:38.559 --> 00:30:41.279 know which, who had an encounter with the slender Man, 601 00:30:41.799 --> 00:30:45.400 she was told by the slender Man to burn down 602 00:30:45.440 --> 00:30:47.960 her house with her family in it, and she'll be 603 00:30:48.039 --> 00:30:56.720 rewarded all of these. So so with that concept, what 604 00:30:56.759 --> 00:30:59.519 do you think? What do you think is going on here? 605 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:06.680 Uh? I mean I I you know, I don't know 606 00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:09.920 how to even answer this. I do have stuff I want. 607 00:31:10.640 --> 00:31:13.799 It could be so many different things. In some way, 608 00:31:13.880 --> 00:31:17.640 I do think a certain I'm just gonna be honest, 609 00:31:17.759 --> 00:31:21.039 certain sexual identities that people are grasping onto is just 610 00:31:21.079 --> 00:31:24.279 because the Tavistock Institute or somebody came up with a 611 00:31:24.400 --> 00:31:28.440 name and an idea and said here have at it. 612 00:31:28.480 --> 00:31:32.359 Is that gonna be you or not, and then people 613 00:31:32.359 --> 00:31:35.400 will just choose although ignore it or whatever. So like 614 00:31:35.480 --> 00:31:38.440 I think things are literally constructed and made up. Just 615 00:31:38.720 --> 00:31:41.279 this is almost a very lusive thing to do kind 616 00:31:41.319 --> 00:31:43.319 of in a sense you're just gonna give somebody an 617 00:31:43.319 --> 00:31:46.279 option now of something to claim in another name, to throw 618 00:31:46.359 --> 00:31:47.119 onto you. 619 00:31:46.960 --> 00:31:51.759 Just to whatever. So I think that stuff's done on purpose. 620 00:31:51.839 --> 00:31:55.839 Now I'm not saying that like this happened because of that, 621 00:31:56.480 --> 00:31:59.920 but like you know, maybe like something like that or. 622 00:32:01.599 --> 00:32:02.880 Could like this be some sort. 623 00:32:02.680 --> 00:32:07.200 Of energy attached to it to where somehow like affected 624 00:32:07.240 --> 00:32:12.960 a more personal impressionable person. Like I wouldn't necessarily say 625 00:32:13.039 --> 00:32:15.640 it was, like you know, done on purpose, it could be, 626 00:32:15.759 --> 00:32:18.440 but sometimes I do wonder if there is just like 627 00:32:18.559 --> 00:32:22.559 some sort of code of frequency too bad things happening. 628 00:32:23.279 --> 00:32:24.720 And the reason why I even bring that up is 629 00:32:24.720 --> 00:32:26.759 there's been a few times where we have covered true 630 00:32:26.880 --> 00:32:31.839 crime on the show and I have running like, uh, Jamatria, 631 00:32:31.839 --> 00:32:34.920 I'm big on Jamatria, and just start getting a lot 632 00:32:34.960 --> 00:32:37.119 of the same matches. And it's not always like actually 633 00:32:37.119 --> 00:32:39.759 bringing up like horrible bad like names or things, but 634 00:32:39.799 --> 00:32:43.039 it's just like you just start seeing like like the 635 00:32:43.359 --> 00:32:48.759 like I met when we covered we covered the O 636 00:32:49.279 --> 00:32:51.680 the Craiglist Killer, like I was killing the prostitutes. I 637 00:32:51.680 --> 00:32:53.359 can't forget, I can't remember. I forgot. 638 00:32:54.880 --> 00:32:57.359 Yo go beach Killer. We covered him. 639 00:32:57.440 --> 00:32:59.640 We did a lot of jamatrio on his stuff, and 640 00:32:59.720 --> 00:33:02.519 like you would forget things that were like even matching 641 00:33:03.559 --> 00:33:07.880 other phrases that was popular at the time too, Like 642 00:33:07.920 --> 00:33:09.400 they were like I remember at the time we were 643 00:33:09.440 --> 00:33:10.720 looking at it, you know, there's always. 644 00:33:10.440 --> 00:33:13.200 Something going on with Trump like these like spells. 645 00:33:13.960 --> 00:33:17.799 Well, I'm wondering, is it like either, yes that I 646 00:33:17.880 --> 00:33:23.359 think sometimes I do actually think one, especially when it's 647 00:33:23.359 --> 00:33:25.720 like something like Mara Lago, mari a lago, mar a lago, 648 00:33:25.839 --> 00:33:27.759 hearing that on the on the TV over and over 649 00:33:27.839 --> 00:33:31.119 again and then seeing something else that equates to you know, 650 00:33:31.400 --> 00:33:36.039 and with jamachia and numerical value, it's the same thing. 651 00:33:37.720 --> 00:33:39.319 You're just you're just saying it in a different way, 652 00:33:39.319 --> 00:33:43.119 but it's the same energetic value. So sometimes I do 653 00:33:43.200 --> 00:33:45.440 think that, yes, they will pull certain phrases. That's the 654 00:33:45.480 --> 00:33:47.119 thing where I'm getting at too. Like even with this 655 00:33:47.400 --> 00:33:50.279 when we're looking into the true crime, you would see 656 00:33:50.359 --> 00:33:52.480 like a lot of the same like numbers again, just 657 00:33:52.559 --> 00:33:54.799 matching certain things, and it was like almost something that's 658 00:33:54.839 --> 00:33:57.880 popular and it's just like, yo, this is is this 659 00:33:58.039 --> 00:34:01.440 like some like and like of energy that's just like 660 00:34:02.039 --> 00:34:04.559 this is what you get when you get hit with 661 00:34:04.599 --> 00:34:05.759 this frequency or something. 662 00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:08.639 I don't know, Well, it sounds like it's almost a trademark. 663 00:34:09.000 --> 00:34:11.039 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's like. 664 00:34:11.039 --> 00:34:15.360 It's a brand left behind something that's actually manipulating or 665 00:34:16.400 --> 00:34:16.840 I don't know. 666 00:34:16.920 --> 00:34:19.320 Man, just a lot of people don't like getting into 667 00:34:19.360 --> 00:34:21.760 the numbers stuff. But there is there is some value 668 00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:25.639 into it. Because I'll even say this, the people that 669 00:34:25.679 --> 00:34:27.719 you you know that you're probably thinking, you know, doing 670 00:34:27.760 --> 00:34:30.960 horrible stuff, they use that stuff. So it exists. I 671 00:34:31.000 --> 00:34:33.159 hate to say it, you know what I'm saying, It 672 00:34:33.239 --> 00:34:36.920 definitely exists. I mean orders have their own ciphers. I 673 00:34:36.920 --> 00:34:39.079 mean that's another thing too. I mean the Golden Dorm 674 00:34:39.159 --> 00:34:41.840 has their own cipher. I think the Masons have their room. 675 00:34:41.920 --> 00:34:43.800 They just have the pig pen cipher. The ot O. 676 00:34:44.400 --> 00:34:46.559 Crawley puts a cipher inside the Book of the Laws. 677 00:34:46.599 --> 00:34:48.239 So I mean these things. 678 00:34:48.280 --> 00:34:52.679 I was digging into Alan Greenfield's book, right, the Cipher 679 00:34:52.760 --> 00:34:56.199 of the UFI. Yeah. And people again, you know, they're 680 00:34:56.239 --> 00:34:57.880 like what book is that. They'll look it up and 681 00:34:57.880 --> 00:35:00.360 they'll be like, oh, and occultist wrote that, what you're Christian? 682 00:35:00.360 --> 00:35:02.599 Why are you reading that? Well again, like I'm I'm 683 00:35:02.639 --> 00:35:06.039 investigating these things because deep down in my beliefs, I 684 00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:10.079 I feel like there's there's these forces that are responsible 685 00:35:10.119 --> 00:35:12.760 for a lot of these things. And like we were 686 00:35:12.800 --> 00:35:15.039 talking about before with the trademark, you know, it's like 687 00:35:15.079 --> 00:35:17.199 a calling card. It's like it's like the It's like 688 00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:18.960 when the Joker comes in and he robs a bank, 689 00:35:19.000 --> 00:35:22.840 he leaves the Joker card, right, And when you're ciphering 690 00:35:22.880 --> 00:35:26.920 these things, which I'm not equipped in, you know, or 691 00:35:27.000 --> 00:35:29.920 knowledgeable of jamatria or numerology, but when you do kind 692 00:35:29.920 --> 00:35:33.880 of break these things down with those tools, it seems 693 00:35:33.920 --> 00:35:38.159 to it seems to write a letter, right. It's almost 694 00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:44.400 like it lets you know, maybe what there's something to this, Right, 695 00:35:45.000 --> 00:35:48.960 then you dig deeper into it and maybe there are 696 00:35:49.039 --> 00:35:52.480 these entities that may be behind these things. 697 00:35:52.599 --> 00:35:55.800 Sometimes I think, yeah, something almost like an yeah, yeah, 698 00:35:55.800 --> 00:35:58.199 It's like it's kind of like it's almost just like manifadly, 699 00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:01.760 it's just like a he hate using frequency, but some 700 00:36:01.800 --> 00:36:04.239 sort of like thing that was the energy to it 701 00:36:04.320 --> 00:36:07.480 that just when it gets into somebody, it just makes 702 00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:10.360 them do that type of weird, horrible stuff. So I 703 00:36:10.400 --> 00:36:12.800 would say, like, BLM, you remember when BLM was going 704 00:36:12.840 --> 00:36:14.039 on with the George Floyd'. 705 00:36:13.760 --> 00:36:18.880 Stuff, right right. I feel like that that was exactly 706 00:36:19.039 --> 00:36:21.199 so for the audience too, e Go Gore. It's kind 707 00:36:21.199 --> 00:36:24.199 of like similar to how we have Christmas and all 708 00:36:24.199 --> 00:36:26.800 of these holidays right throughout the year. It's where everyone 709 00:36:26.920 --> 00:36:30.239 kind of just ritualistically, they all kind of get together. 710 00:36:30.360 --> 00:36:32.280 They don't know why they're doing it, they don't know 711 00:36:32.360 --> 00:36:35.079 how it got here. They're not questioning anything in the reality, 712 00:36:35.119 --> 00:36:40.159 they're just partaking in certain things. But it's crazy, man, 713 00:36:40.199 --> 00:36:42.800 So real quick. I wanted to circle back around. You 714 00:36:42.880 --> 00:36:43.960 talked about oh, real. 715 00:36:43.880 --> 00:36:47.639 Quick, real quick. This was almost kind of an answer 716 00:36:47.679 --> 00:36:49.559 to Uh. I kind of went off in a different way, 717 00:36:49.599 --> 00:36:50.679 but I didn't want to bring this up. But you 718 00:36:50.719 --> 00:36:52.960 mentioned something about like the science or like I guess, 719 00:36:53.039 --> 00:36:55.360 kind of being hidden too, like not showing it or 720 00:36:55.360 --> 00:36:57.800 not letting you come out something. I just do want 721 00:36:57.800 --> 00:36:59.920 to mention it is because we've covered it on the show. 722 00:37:00.320 --> 00:37:02.079 I didn't even know until Lisa brought it up for 723 00:37:02.119 --> 00:37:09.360 the show. Maxwell's father, Uh. He basically for a long 724 00:37:09.519 --> 00:37:14.280 time controlled the medical I mean the science field with 725 00:37:14.440 --> 00:37:17.840 like if you published any papers, odds are he was 726 00:37:17.880 --> 00:37:20.199 the one he owned the company that did it, so 727 00:37:20.239 --> 00:37:24.039 that meant he controlled what papers got published, and he 728 00:37:24.079 --> 00:37:26.280 did that for a while. No life people would to 729 00:37:26.280 --> 00:37:28.800 go look into that, you'd realize that that family actually 730 00:37:28.920 --> 00:37:34.840 probably ran the last twenty years of how we were 731 00:37:34.880 --> 00:37:42.480 disseminated information in the scientific community. It's actually pretty freaking wild. 732 00:37:42.559 --> 00:37:44.360 It's like, you know, why aren't we talking about that? 733 00:37:44.480 --> 00:37:47.159 And I mean, listen, that stuff is horrible with Epstein, 734 00:37:47.840 --> 00:37:49.599 but you know, with the kids. But it's like even 735 00:37:49.639 --> 00:37:51.360 with him, what's up with the eugenics lab that we 736 00:37:51.599 --> 00:37:53.559 talked about when he first got it? You know, why 737 00:37:53.559 --> 00:37:56.639 aren't we talking about, like, you know, Maxwell's family basically 738 00:37:56.679 --> 00:38:00.000 like running the scientific community foul well oh yeah, yeah, 739 00:38:00.119 --> 00:38:00.960 like he sees so much. 740 00:38:00.800 --> 00:38:03.800 More, oh yeah, oh yeah. And that stuff with the 741 00:38:03.840 --> 00:38:05.320 Epstein you know we had on. 742 00:38:05.480 --> 00:38:07.840 The file doesn't exist. It doesn't exist. That's all the 743 00:38:07.840 --> 00:38:09.519 whole crazy what's going on here? 744 00:38:09.679 --> 00:38:09.880 Oh? 745 00:38:09.920 --> 00:38:10.639 I know, I know. 746 00:38:10.800 --> 00:38:13.840 And what's so funny is is, you know, Epstein wasn't 747 00:38:13.840 --> 00:38:17.800 just only involved in blackmail and that kind of whole ordeal, right, 748 00:38:17.840 --> 00:38:21.039 but I think he was, and we had on Brad 749 00:38:21.039 --> 00:38:25.480 Binkley and the propaganda report he talks about where Epstein 750 00:38:25.559 --> 00:38:28.480 was involved in funding a lot of operations and then 751 00:38:28.519 --> 00:38:29.360 when you. 752 00:38:29.760 --> 00:38:33.239 All a lot of people know that, oh yeah he 753 00:38:33.320 --> 00:38:33.599 was in. 754 00:38:35.440 --> 00:38:37.840 Exactly it's Peter Teel right, we're I can't wait to 755 00:38:37.840 --> 00:38:41.679 get into that with your panel because that's crazy. Him 756 00:38:41.679 --> 00:38:44.039 and Alex carp there just like these Lord of the 757 00:38:44.079 --> 00:38:49.480 Ring nerds. But because they name everything, you know after 758 00:38:49.679 --> 00:38:51.159 you know, the Lord of the Ring is kind of sag. 759 00:38:52.679 --> 00:38:54.360 Yeah, yeah, they forgot about that. 760 00:38:54.559 --> 00:38:57.960 Yeah, well it's a it's a symbol. It's almost like, uh, 761 00:38:58.840 --> 00:39:02.519 it gives like sonification to a lot of these ideas 762 00:39:02.519 --> 00:39:04.239 of what they are trying to do with the AI. 763 00:39:04.480 --> 00:39:06.559 I mean because when you look at in the movie, 764 00:39:07.000 --> 00:39:10.280 you know, you can see what the pallanteer was actually 765 00:39:10.400 --> 00:39:14.280 used for. It's used for military strategy. That's it here 766 00:39:14.280 --> 00:39:19.039 in Israel. Oh yeah, I think that. I honestly, I 767 00:39:19.039 --> 00:39:20.400 think he's the new iron dome. 768 00:39:20.159 --> 00:39:20.599 That they use. 769 00:39:21.880 --> 00:39:23.280 Oh dude. 770 00:39:23.360 --> 00:39:24.960 So I was like, I guess it didn't work too 771 00:39:24.960 --> 00:39:26.880 well for the guy with a lawnmower stopped on his back, 772 00:39:27.880 --> 00:39:32.840 He's got a pillowcase point and I was like, yo, 773 00:39:32.920 --> 00:39:35.840 this this is what started, you know, possible World War three. 774 00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:38.280 The guy with with a towel and a propeller on 775 00:39:38.360 --> 00:39:38.679 his back. 776 00:39:38.719 --> 00:39:45.079 Really right, right, golly man, jeez, it's it's all crazy, man, 777 00:39:45.440 --> 00:39:48.559 oh man, dude. The artificial intelligence, and so I tell 778 00:39:48.599 --> 00:39:51.559 you what, let's let's just kind of let's get into that, 779 00:39:51.679 --> 00:39:56.280 like artificial intelligence and and the fact that there's a 780 00:39:56.280 --> 00:40:01.360 possibility for a SI, right, artificial suit intelligence, and then 781 00:40:01.519 --> 00:40:03.800 right after that, you know, a g a g I 782 00:40:04.039 --> 00:40:06.960 artificial I'm sorry, it's it's a g I first, then 783 00:40:07.039 --> 00:40:11.800 ASI artificial general intelligence, and then artificial superintelligence. What comes 784 00:40:11.840 --> 00:40:15.199 after that, I feel is called what's what's known as singularity, 785 00:40:15.840 --> 00:40:18.400 and singularity. How I put it is in a way 786 00:40:18.440 --> 00:40:21.599 to where it's like my kid, right, my kid's two 787 00:40:21.679 --> 00:40:24.880 years old. I have to nurture my kid. I have 788 00:40:24.920 --> 00:40:27.280 to feed my kid. I have to do all these 789 00:40:27.320 --> 00:40:29.679 things until they're old enough to where they can do 790 00:40:29.719 --> 00:40:34.239 it themselves. And that's that's how I kind of wrap 791 00:40:34.320 --> 00:40:38.599 this idea of singularity with with AI, it's it's not 792 00:40:38.719 --> 00:40:43.280 conscious right now. Maybe at one point it'll seek a consciousness, 793 00:40:43.679 --> 00:40:47.000 but that's very similar to how one day my kid's 794 00:40:47.039 --> 00:40:50.719 going to want to, you know, leave the house. And 795 00:40:50.800 --> 00:40:54.519 once that idea happens, where my kid leaves the house, 796 00:40:55.280 --> 00:40:57.119 I have no more control over it at all. I 797 00:40:57.320 --> 00:41:02.559 don't I can't even predict the outcomes, right, And so 798 00:41:02.599 --> 00:41:06.039 if we if that happens with artificial intelligence, you know 799 00:41:06.960 --> 00:41:09.800 it's gonna be nuts. But what what do you think 800 00:41:10.039 --> 00:41:12.360 are the connections with the occult and AI? 801 00:41:13.199 --> 00:41:19.719 Well, I definitely think there's something there. Uh again, like 802 00:41:19.800 --> 00:41:23.320 even like even you know I said before, I think 803 00:41:23.360 --> 00:41:27.320 electricity magnetism really kind of boils down to like magic 804 00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:31.440 and stuff. And I think, like that's even like like 805 00:41:31.519 --> 00:41:34.519 the computers we're using with the electricity, and like the 806 00:41:34.519 --> 00:41:36.280 way I think that I don't know how to get 807 00:41:36.280 --> 00:41:38.119 into is that in AI is like all kind of 808 00:41:38.199 --> 00:41:43.519 like connected. Like I do actually think like using electricity 809 00:41:43.599 --> 00:41:48.559 is messing with magic, that's right, right, I think what 810 00:41:48.559 --> 00:41:51.800 we're what we're using right here. I mean Anthony cus 811 00:41:51.880 --> 00:41:54.920 Kircher predicted back in the sixteen hundreds. He says, at 812 00:41:54.960 --> 00:41:58.480 some point in the future, between crystals and light will 813 00:41:58.519 --> 00:42:02.079 be able to project spirits of demons. If you think 814 00:42:02.079 --> 00:42:05.480 about how our optimal cable works, it's this light getting 815 00:42:05.559 --> 00:42:07.920 shined and then these crystals glow in front of us 816 00:42:07.920 --> 00:42:09.880 are on our iPhone and the guy really wasn't too 817 00:42:09.920 --> 00:42:12.920 far off right, But what was this guy's name, Anthony 818 00:42:13.039 --> 00:42:16.880 cus Kirchen. I think he might have been another Jesuit 819 00:42:16.880 --> 00:42:17.400 priest too. 820 00:42:19.880 --> 00:42:22.039 Yeah, it seems like all I mean, the Roman Catholic 821 00:42:22.119 --> 00:42:23.880 Church is filled with the cultist right. 822 00:42:24.000 --> 00:42:26.119 Yeah, yeah, yeah, whatever. I like, I'm like, oh, let 823 00:42:26.119 --> 00:42:27.679 me think about a cultist to cover. Oh, let me 824 00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:31.119 checked out people. I'm dead serious. Well, like I'll even 825 00:42:31.159 --> 00:42:33.039 go like believe it or not. Some of the weird 826 00:42:33.079 --> 00:42:35.239 stuff is if you look at like the Gnostic Saint 827 00:42:35.280 --> 00:42:37.039 lists from like the people that Crowley put on the 828 00:42:37.079 --> 00:42:39.400 OTO thing, Like there's some people on there that you'd 829 00:42:39.440 --> 00:42:40.920 be like, what the fuck are they doing on here? 830 00:42:41.639 --> 00:42:42.519 From the Catholic Church? 831 00:42:43.440 --> 00:42:45.840 Right for the people that don't know about the OTO, 832 00:42:45.960 --> 00:42:48.000 could you just kind of describe that for us? 833 00:42:48.960 --> 00:42:53.159 Yeah, the Auto templey orientis it was, uh, it was 834 00:42:53.199 --> 00:42:56.480 the order that was eventually handed over to Alice the Crowley. 835 00:42:57.239 --> 00:43:00.719 I'm sure everybody knows who he is, the big bed beast. Yeah, 836 00:43:00.760 --> 00:43:03.159 they gave it to him. Supposely this is even the story, 837 00:43:03.199 --> 00:43:06.320 if it's even truthful. In my opinion, I do think 838 00:43:06.360 --> 00:43:08.119 he was, you know, a double agent or at least 839 00:43:08.159 --> 00:43:11.840 he was intelligence for at least one country. I'm sure. So, Like, 840 00:43:11.880 --> 00:43:13.840 I don't even know how much to believe about the 841 00:43:13.880 --> 00:43:17.519 guy that in general, but or his stories. But uh 842 00:43:18.159 --> 00:43:20.679 supposely was handed over to him. It was a Masonic. 843 00:43:21.079 --> 00:43:23.400 It was a Masonic order originally that was it was 844 00:43:23.440 --> 00:43:26.519 like in a it was uh. They sometimes they have 845 00:43:26.559 --> 00:43:29.119 it orders, whereas like the may they'll have like another 846 00:43:29.239 --> 00:43:31.400 order that's kind of like associated. They like if you 847 00:43:31.440 --> 00:43:33.719 if you were a Mason who automatically came in and 848 00:43:33.760 --> 00:43:37.840 you might have went to a different degree, if you know, 849 00:43:38.039 --> 00:43:40.519 if you were a certain degree in the Freemasons, you know, 850 00:43:40.599 --> 00:43:42.760 like he's say you're a like twelve degree in the Freemasons, 851 00:43:43.159 --> 00:43:45.599 you didn't may not start off at first or zero 852 00:43:45.760 --> 00:43:47.800 in the OTO. He might settle off for like thirdsth 853 00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:51.400 you know. So it uh, it was set up like that. 854 00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.000 When Crowley took it over, he ended all that. He 855 00:43:54.159 --> 00:43:57.360 changed and took out most of the uh, the initiations. 856 00:43:57.400 --> 00:43:59.119 I think there was like thirty three and he dropped 857 00:43:59.159 --> 00:44:00.800 him down to like thirteen or something like that. 858 00:44:01.239 --> 00:44:02.840 Now, why why did they Sorry, I don't mean to 859 00:44:02.840 --> 00:44:04.400 cut you off, I don't waned to Why did they. 860 00:44:04.280 --> 00:44:08.039 Give it to him. Yeah, well yeah, this is like 861 00:44:08.119 --> 00:44:10.559 I mean, I don't know. I mean maybe it's the truth, 862 00:44:11.159 --> 00:44:13.079 but to me, I was always just like it sounds 863 00:44:13.119 --> 00:44:15.559 like just it sounds too easy for people who like 864 00:44:15.599 --> 00:44:16.559 I want to believe. 865 00:44:16.280 --> 00:44:18.719 And I like, do they feel like maybe there's a 866 00:44:18.760 --> 00:44:24.960 certain characteristic of adept in them maybe, like like to 867 00:44:25.079 --> 00:44:28.519 where they it's like when uh, it's it's like I 868 00:44:28.559 --> 00:44:30.719 compare this with Star Wars, because Star Wars to me, 869 00:44:30.840 --> 00:44:34.880 is about the occult, but it's where guigan Jin, you know, 870 00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:38.880 senses that Anakin is the chosen one. So they just 871 00:44:38.960 --> 00:44:41.599 come bringing them and make him a Jedi. 872 00:44:41.760 --> 00:44:44.960 You know, he put out the Book of the Law 873 00:44:45.400 --> 00:44:48.119 and they came across it and they're like, oh, you're 874 00:44:48.159 --> 00:44:50.639 telling our secrets and this and that, and supposed he's like, 875 00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:52.719 I don't know who you are, and then like oh, 876 00:44:52.719 --> 00:44:53.960 we got to have a talk. And then all of 877 00:44:53.960 --> 00:44:57.239 a sudden they give him the ot o interest. I 878 00:44:57.320 --> 00:44:59.039 mean maybe they went that way, maybe it didn't. I 879 00:44:59.039 --> 00:45:02.559 don't know. He even had the astronargentum and that's like 880 00:45:02.679 --> 00:45:04.960 kind of known that that was not his either. It's 881 00:45:05.119 --> 00:45:07.039 there's was around way before him. 882 00:45:07.960 --> 00:45:11.239 Yeah, so and so the OTO. Where's that out of. 883 00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:15.320 Uh well, I mean it's all over the. 884 00:45:15.360 --> 00:45:19.079 United so it's global, right, Okay, so I was living 885 00:45:19.119 --> 00:45:24.480 in New York. No, how Freemasons are all over the place. 886 00:45:24.559 --> 00:45:25.039 Got temples? 887 00:45:25.079 --> 00:45:29.239 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, free Mason temples are much more common. 888 00:45:29.280 --> 00:45:31.719 I mean, uh, the OTO may not even have something 889 00:45:31.719 --> 00:45:34.159 in every state, but they are throughout the country and 890 00:45:34.199 --> 00:45:37.079 in other countries as well. But like, I don't know 891 00:45:37.079 --> 00:45:40.639 if there's one in Alabama, I couldn't die. But you know, 892 00:45:40.719 --> 00:45:42.320 in New York and New Jersey and you know a 893 00:45:42.320 --> 00:45:45.119 few other states. I definitely did North Carolina, South Carolina, 894 00:45:45.199 --> 00:45:49.559 they have like stuff. Yeah, but yeah, uh yeah, what 895 00:45:49.599 --> 00:45:51.920 was the question. Oh yeah, it's a little bit in 896 00:45:52.400 --> 00:45:54.679 the way. It's not like freemasonry, though, I will say 897 00:45:54.800 --> 00:45:56.800 is like in freemasonry, if you want to start getting 898 00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:58.480 into the occult stuff, you'll play out to be there 899 00:45:58.480 --> 00:46:01.960 for a long time. You walk into the OTO. I mean, 900 00:46:01.960 --> 00:46:04.960 that's like what you're there for. I mean, it's if 901 00:46:04.960 --> 00:46:07.000 you're going if it's not a Gnostic mass, which is 902 00:46:07.000 --> 00:46:09.639 a huge ritual like type of thing that you're watching, 903 00:46:09.760 --> 00:46:12.039 or you're watching. My opinion, somebody cross the Abyss and 904 00:46:12.079 --> 00:46:12.679 come back. 905 00:46:13.639 --> 00:46:14.320 You watch that. 906 00:46:14.599 --> 00:46:16.679 I mean, that's like that's in your face right away. 907 00:46:16.719 --> 00:46:18.199 Or if it's a class, it's gonna be in a 908 00:46:18.239 --> 00:46:20.440 class on something like to do with the cultism of magic. 909 00:46:20.519 --> 00:46:23.199 So it's like if you go to the OTO, it's yeah, 910 00:46:23.199 --> 00:46:25.440 I mean, your cultism is in your face right away. 911 00:46:26.400 --> 00:46:29.360 You know, it's not you know, the Martinists might be 912 00:46:29.400 --> 00:46:31.920 the same way. The Golden Dome would be the same way, 913 00:46:32.039 --> 00:46:33.559 but definitely not the Freemasons. 914 00:46:34.280 --> 00:46:38.400 Now, since there's all these different groups of you know, occultist, right, 915 00:46:38.480 --> 00:46:45.280 Freemason's Golden Dawn Oto, all right, what distinguishes them different 916 00:46:45.280 --> 00:46:48.159 from each other? Is it like a hierarchy? 917 00:46:48.559 --> 00:46:51.239 Uh, it's kind of like their their own set of 918 00:46:51.280 --> 00:46:56.920 like probably beliefs of reality denominations. Yeah, yeah. Or it's like, 919 00:46:59.000 --> 00:47:03.039 I mean it's also very like it's teetering cult like 920 00:47:03.119 --> 00:47:06.599 well one I will even say the OTO. Yeah, I 921 00:47:06.639 --> 00:47:08.840 forgot which degree is he? The seventh of the eighth? 922 00:47:09.199 --> 00:47:12.280 I never made it that high obviously, Uh you have 923 00:47:12.360 --> 00:47:14.679 you're signing over shit to them, So I mean, at 924 00:47:14.719 --> 00:47:17.960 that point it's a I meant a cult, But like 925 00:47:18.039 --> 00:47:20.519 I think I forgot what was the question? 926 00:47:20.559 --> 00:47:23.719 I'm so sorry, No, just like what distinguishes them to 927 00:47:23.760 --> 00:47:26.159 be different from each other? Are they like denomination? 928 00:47:26.360 --> 00:47:26.519 Yeah? 929 00:47:26.599 --> 00:47:29.280 Yeah, it's almost kind of like that, like it's normally 930 00:47:29.320 --> 00:47:32.440 always has like some person who had an experience. It's like, 931 00:47:32.719 --> 00:47:35.480 I mean, really no different than Mormonism with Joseph Smith. 932 00:47:36.440 --> 00:47:38.880 You know, he had this experience with Angel Moroni and 933 00:47:38.960 --> 00:47:41.119 now he has his own version of like his Bible 934 00:47:41.159 --> 00:47:44.000 and stuff. It's really like some of the orders sometimes 935 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:46.639 are things even start from like somebody who claimed to 936 00:47:46.679 --> 00:47:49.320 have had this magical experience and this is what they think, 937 00:47:49.920 --> 00:47:53.079 blah blah blah, and people get into it like a cult. 938 00:47:52.920 --> 00:47:54.880 Almost mm hmm. 939 00:47:55.039 --> 00:47:56.679 I mean a lot of stuff kind of does happen 940 00:47:56.719 --> 00:47:56.920 like that. 941 00:47:57.840 --> 00:48:01.480 Right, right, And so within the different kinds of orders 942 00:48:01.519 --> 00:48:03.480 of things, right like are there? 943 00:48:03.599 --> 00:48:05.199 I mean those are also like newer, like you know 944 00:48:05.239 --> 00:48:07.760 what I'm saying, Like that that perfect example, I guess 945 00:48:07.760 --> 00:48:10.719 would kind of be like Temple of Set, you know, 946 00:48:10.760 --> 00:48:15.199 a Quino started that like from how he sees things 947 00:48:15.239 --> 00:48:18.599 from his experiences, you know what I'm saying, which you know, 948 00:48:19.119 --> 00:48:21.639 just it's more of like a newer thing. The Freemasons. 949 00:48:21.679 --> 00:48:23.760 I couldn't really tell you too much because I'm sure 950 00:48:23.760 --> 00:48:26.280 that goes back a lot further, but just like New 951 00:48:26.519 --> 00:48:29.760 Orders and you know, like kind of like the Golden 952 00:48:29.760 --> 00:48:32.519 Dorn and Oto since then, in my opinion, you do 953 00:48:32.920 --> 00:48:34.880 see a lot of stuff that is kind of very 954 00:48:34.960 --> 00:48:37.239 much based on one person's experience that like it is 955 00:48:37.320 --> 00:48:40.679 highly known or famous in the in that in that area. 956 00:48:41.079 --> 00:48:44.039 Look at Blovotsky, it's just theosophy. But I mean people 957 00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:48.920 don't know who she is. Yeah, Krole, you got Thelma, 958 00:48:49.000 --> 00:48:52.199 you got Parsons. I mean that you know Lima as well. Uh, 959 00:48:52.719 --> 00:48:55.880 even like scientology goes back to al Ron Hubbard, one 960 00:48:56.000 --> 00:48:58.039 dude's idea of what our reality is and how are 961 00:48:58.039 --> 00:48:58.800 you gonna get saved? 962 00:49:00.199 --> 00:49:03.559 Right right? What do you think? What do you think 963 00:49:03.679 --> 00:49:09.280 these players like Alistair Crowley, Jack Parsons, you know Hubbard? 964 00:49:09.719 --> 00:49:12.599 What were they what were their goals? What do you think? 965 00:49:12.880 --> 00:49:17.159 I think they were all trying to really mentally screw people. 966 00:49:19.599 --> 00:49:24.960 Mass is a deception, I think Crowley definitely my opinion. 967 00:49:24.960 --> 00:49:26.000 I do think. 968 00:49:27.559 --> 00:49:30.280 I try not to try to see how I can 969 00:49:30.320 --> 00:49:34.599 say this my opinion. There is certain things I guess 970 00:49:35.159 --> 00:49:38.480 that might be true about the idea of Nazis like nowadays, 971 00:49:39.559 --> 00:49:43.000 but my idea of that from the past. It's really 972 00:49:43.039 --> 00:49:47.159 more of magic to where it's like you're deceiving massive 973 00:49:47.400 --> 00:49:52.960 amounts of people with sound and video, or things might 974 00:49:53.000 --> 00:49:57.119 be exaggerated, or things might be taken out of context, 975 00:49:57.719 --> 00:50:03.400 but it's there too. It massive fear into people, you 976 00:50:03.400 --> 00:50:06.159 know that. Like I'll use one example without having to 977 00:50:06.280 --> 00:50:10.599 use World War two. Really I didn't have any side 978 00:50:10.639 --> 00:50:12.360 and I don't care. But like with the Ukraine War 979 00:50:12.440 --> 00:50:15.559 when it first started, we most of the footage that 980 00:50:15.599 --> 00:50:17.360 we were getting from over there was coming from the 981 00:50:17.360 --> 00:50:20.639 Azof Battalion and that was any news art you could 982 00:50:20.679 --> 00:50:25.239 see Ann Fox, uh MSNBC, A lot of them were 983 00:50:25.239 --> 00:50:27.559 getting it from the Azov Battalion even say on the 984 00:50:27.599 --> 00:50:28.360 things you know. 985 00:50:28.440 --> 00:50:31.119 Supply by as well. 986 00:50:31.159 --> 00:50:36.119 They also know rep a swastika, you know, And I 987 00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:37.559 think a lot of the stuff that we were being 988 00:50:37.599 --> 00:50:40.480 supposedly told going on over there was a lot of bullshit. 989 00:50:41.199 --> 00:50:42.960 But like what I'm getting at is like why or 990 00:50:43.039 --> 00:50:47.960 is somebody who's weren't sports the Nazi swastika giving us 991 00:50:48.039 --> 00:50:53.280 the image of what's going on over there. That's that's me, 992 00:50:53.559 --> 00:50:56.079 That's something to be worried about because we're gonna be 993 00:50:56.159 --> 00:50:58.559 deceived by whatever that TV or that video, that image 994 00:50:58.599 --> 00:51:03.920 is telling us. Now, yeah, NASA, same thing. If it 995 00:51:03.960 --> 00:51:06.960 wasn't for Jack parsons breakthrough with rockets, we would never 996 00:51:07.079 --> 00:51:10.079 had an excuse to even get up to outer space. 997 00:51:11.559 --> 00:51:14.000 Right right, exactly. 998 00:51:14.079 --> 00:51:18.119 Man, it's all ways to deceive people. And al Ron 999 00:51:18.159 --> 00:51:20.239 Hubbard he just knew how to manipulate people. And I 1000 00:51:20.280 --> 00:51:24.840 think the stuff that eventually, hopefully that will show that 1001 00:51:26.360 --> 00:51:29.679 there is quite possible that al Ron Hubbard was actually 1002 00:51:29.800 --> 00:51:34.280 like hugely involved with MK Ultra and the Montok experiments. 1003 00:51:34.679 --> 00:51:37.320 Oh yeah, absolutely, man, And I think to a big 1004 00:51:37.360 --> 00:51:41.920 part of their rituals, sex, rituals, magic, whatever they were doing, 1005 00:51:42.440 --> 00:51:45.079 especially doing these things in the desert. You know, you've 1006 00:51:45.079 --> 00:51:47.679 got Jack Parsons with the Babylon working I believe it 1007 00:51:47.719 --> 00:51:51.159 was called. And then you had Alistair Curley with you know, 1008 00:51:51.360 --> 00:51:54.360 Deyon of Horrus. He wrote, you know, the Book of 1009 00:51:54.400 --> 00:51:59.880 the Law. He had this avatar appear to him call 1010 00:52:00.119 --> 00:52:05.360 a wasp lamb too, yeah, lamb. All these things, the 1011 00:52:05.400 --> 00:52:08.320 one that looks like the one that looked like the 1012 00:52:08.360 --> 00:52:12.360 modern day Greg Yeah, was just kind of wild. Uh 1013 00:52:13.280 --> 00:52:16.079 what's your what's your idea with with those those entities, 1014 00:52:16.400 --> 00:52:19.280 Like how do you remind around. 1015 00:52:18.960 --> 00:52:29.280 That, uh, I think, hm hmmm. I don't know who 1016 00:52:29.280 --> 00:52:31.400 he's contacting of what he's contacting. I'll just put it 1017 00:52:31.440 --> 00:52:34.800 that way. But like before when I told you that, 1018 00:52:35.440 --> 00:52:37.719 like all right, the Book of the Law was dictated 1019 00:52:38.239 --> 00:52:43.480 to his girl Rose, So basically child, we think about 1020 00:52:43.519 --> 00:52:45.360 it that way. This is another child. He's just like 1021 00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:49.719 Joseph Smith and is in his Oliver Crowderys the crowd. 1022 00:52:49.760 --> 00:52:51.800 He's with me for all kinds of different things. 1023 00:52:51.840 --> 00:52:54.719 Yeah. Yeah, like that guy took Smith's notes of like 1024 00:52:54.920 --> 00:52:58.159 Morona talking to him, so you know she's taking the 1025 00:52:58.199 --> 00:53:00.519 notes from him. But I mean it's basically like what 1026 00:53:00.559 --> 00:53:03.280 I was gonna get at what I told you before 1027 00:53:03.320 --> 00:53:05.480 that I had whenever I have a magical experience is 1028 00:53:05.480 --> 00:53:08.440 when I opened up my eyes, like no different things. Well, 1029 00:53:08.480 --> 00:53:10.000 it will be to the extent to where it's like 1030 00:53:10.280 --> 00:53:12.079 unless like maybe I had a voice recorder, but I 1031 00:53:12.079 --> 00:53:14.360 don't even know. If I could say everything and typed 1032 00:53:14.400 --> 00:53:16.480 at the same time, maybe I could get every single 1033 00:53:16.599 --> 00:53:20.239 thought down that I'm gonna probably forget eventually because so 1034 00:53:20.320 --> 00:53:23.679 much is coming out and so I believe it or not, 1035 00:53:23.800 --> 00:53:27.440 it's it is that crazy. And sometimes I like I 1036 00:53:27.599 --> 00:53:29.760 I do wonder, like, is that all this was? It 1037 00:53:29.880 --> 00:53:31.960 was like this guy just had like I don't want 1038 00:53:32.000 --> 00:53:35.239 to say it was a positive, magical experience. You could 1039 00:53:35.239 --> 00:53:37.840 have been doing something different, but like, was it still 1040 00:53:37.880 --> 00:53:41.639 like afterwards, was it still that outcome to where he's 1041 00:53:41.719 --> 00:53:44.079 just blurting out stuff from something that I contacted and 1042 00:53:44.159 --> 00:53:48.599 rose was there? It just here we go? Right this, 1043 00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:51.519 this is the results from his experience crossing the. 1044 00:53:51.440 --> 00:53:55.679 Abyss right right. And it's funny too because I think 1045 00:53:55.679 --> 00:53:58.599 he's even alluded to the fact that these things that 1046 00:53:58.639 --> 00:54:04.559 were channeled to him were angels and with how it 1047 00:54:04.679 --> 00:54:09.199 influenced him and how it impacted him, right Crowley, It 1048 00:54:09.239 --> 00:54:14.599 made him write basically like a different kind of like 1049 00:54:15.000 --> 00:54:19.000 gospel per se, right like. And I find it interesting 1050 00:54:19.000 --> 00:54:21.519 to you just as a Christian, right like reading the scriptures, 1051 00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:24.760 the New Testament, reading how you know, Paul's telling us 1052 00:54:24.800 --> 00:54:29.280 that if there is anyone that comes to you, and 1053 00:54:29.320 --> 00:54:32.840 again he could be writing to people you know, past, present, future. 1054 00:54:32.960 --> 00:54:35.000 It's kind of like how this firse plays out with me, 1055 00:54:35.119 --> 00:54:38.639 where he's like, if anyone comes to you with a 1056 00:54:38.639 --> 00:54:41.440 different gospel than the one that I've preached to you, 1057 00:54:42.559 --> 00:54:45.480 even if it was given to you by an angel, 1058 00:54:45.800 --> 00:54:47.559 and it doesn't match up with the one that I'm 1059 00:54:47.599 --> 00:54:52.079 talking about. He's like imposter or like watch out for that. 1060 00:54:52.760 --> 00:54:55.559 Be careful. But it kind of like plays into into 1061 00:54:55.599 --> 00:54:58.119 the idea of what was going on with with with Crowley. 1062 00:54:58.920 --> 00:55:04.519 So you mentioned magic and have you had any experience 1063 00:55:04.559 --> 00:55:06.840 with magic? You've kind of alluded to that a little bit. 1064 00:55:06.840 --> 00:55:08.239 Could you tell me some of your experience? 1065 00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:10.880 Yeah, well, I know, I do think I have crossed 1066 00:55:10.880 --> 00:55:13.519 the Abyss. I do think I have, you know, in 1067 00:55:13.599 --> 00:55:16.039 the have come with conscious contact with God. 1068 00:55:17.639 --> 00:55:22.079 Okay, So so the Abyss, what does that consist of? 1069 00:55:22.159 --> 00:55:23.599 I've heard, I've read about it a little bit. I've 1070 00:55:23.639 --> 00:55:25.039 heard about it, but I don't know too much. 1071 00:55:25.480 --> 00:55:29.199 H man. There's so much behind that, uh. I mean 1072 00:55:29.199 --> 00:55:31.760 there's gonna be physical feelings and my visuals to all this. 1073 00:55:31.920 --> 00:55:34.119 But basically, uh. 1074 00:55:34.039 --> 00:55:35.679 Because when I think of the Abyss, I think of 1075 00:55:35.719 --> 00:55:40.280 like just losing our Oh no, okay, believe it or not. 1076 00:55:40.480 --> 00:55:42.079 This is gonna sound weird, and it's another reason why 1077 00:55:42.079 --> 00:55:43.760 I even brought up NASA before too. But like a 1078 00:55:43.760 --> 00:55:46.960 lot of not before I cross over to the Abyss, 1079 00:55:47.000 --> 00:55:50.039 I do have certain visuals that happen all the time, 1080 00:55:50.559 --> 00:55:52.440 but like when I do cross the Abyss, it is 1081 00:55:52.480 --> 00:55:54.519 almost kind of like it's gonna sound crazy. Does look 1082 00:55:54.559 --> 00:55:57.079 like you're kind of like out in outer space. 1083 00:55:57.400 --> 00:55:59.559 Like you're astral Well, yeah. 1084 00:55:59.400 --> 00:56:02.239 Like you're just you're out there. There's like blackness, but 1085 00:56:02.280 --> 00:56:06.800 then there's also just like all this like you're when 1086 00:56:06.840 --> 00:56:08.800 you go into the from my experience, when you cross, 1087 00:56:08.800 --> 00:56:10.800 when I've crossed over to the Abyss, and it's basically 1088 00:56:11.320 --> 00:56:16.960 leaving form and basically leaving self identity and just seeing 1089 00:56:17.000 --> 00:56:19.639 yourself in an experience, you feel like you're actually getting 1090 00:56:19.639 --> 00:56:21.800 stretched out, like and you don't have your body. It's 1091 00:56:21.880 --> 00:56:24.639 just as if you're I used to joke around and 1092 00:56:24.639 --> 00:56:26.559 say almost like the Offenum where it's just like you're 1093 00:56:26.599 --> 00:56:29.119 just like, you know, just looking at everything. 1094 00:56:29.440 --> 00:56:32.960 You're not actually like there, And uh, is it like 1095 00:56:33.000 --> 00:56:34.079 in the movie get Out? 1096 00:56:35.000 --> 00:56:37.440 You know, I never watched the whole thing so that 1097 00:56:37.599 --> 00:56:38.360 I couldn't tell. 1098 00:56:38.280 --> 00:56:40.639 You, okay, because it's it's it's it's a it's the 1099 00:56:40.679 --> 00:56:43.280 movie get Out. Basically, I'm sure you know what the 1100 00:56:43.320 --> 00:56:45.119 movie is about a little bit, but it's like where 1101 00:56:45.679 --> 00:56:49.280 you know, the the is these that this family that 1102 00:56:49.360 --> 00:56:51.199 was in a cult family. 1103 00:56:51.480 --> 00:56:51.599 Uh. 1104 00:56:51.719 --> 00:56:55.000 They were doing rituals on specifically black people because of 1105 00:56:55.039 --> 00:56:59.280 their genetics, and they were detaching their consciousness through frequencies 1106 00:57:00.360 --> 00:57:03.400 and they would get put into the this like I 1107 00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:05.280 forget what the what it's called in the movie, but 1108 00:57:05.400 --> 00:57:08.880 you're you're in this unknown like area. You're just floating 1109 00:57:08.880 --> 00:57:11.880 and you're falling from a hole like a light at 1110 00:57:11.920 --> 00:57:16.719 the end of the tunnel, and that is your perception 1111 00:57:17.519 --> 00:57:22.679 still of like your optics, right, but you're falling into 1112 00:57:22.719 --> 00:57:26.199 like this this abyss kind of this idea of an abyss. 1113 00:57:26.239 --> 00:57:26.400 Right. 1114 00:57:26.760 --> 00:57:28.119 When I think of abyss, I think of like a 1115 00:57:28.159 --> 00:57:30.840 deep water right, like like it just goes down forever 1116 00:57:31.159 --> 00:57:34.639 and you're actually falling backwards and you're reaching out to 1117 00:57:34.679 --> 00:57:37.159 the to that optical perception like that light at the 1118 00:57:37.239 --> 00:57:40.400 end of the tunnel, and you're just you're floating there forever. 1119 00:57:40.760 --> 00:57:44.079 And what happens is in that movie they actually were 1120 00:57:44.199 --> 00:57:51.000 ushering in the consciousness of one of their family members 1121 00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:54.320 who was very old but needed a new body. 1122 00:57:55.239 --> 00:57:57.800 I do believe that actually stuff goes on. I do 1123 00:57:57.920 --> 00:58:01.320 think that you can swap I know it sounds crazy, 1124 00:58:01.400 --> 00:58:02.199 I do think you can do that. 1125 00:58:02.280 --> 00:58:05.079 Well, it's being shown in movies all over the place. Man, 1126 00:58:05.239 --> 00:58:09.880 I mean I was I'm at work and where I'm 1127 00:58:09.880 --> 00:58:11.880 with the boys. You know, everyone knows I'm a fireman. 1128 00:58:11.960 --> 00:58:13.519 So we all kind of hang out and chill on 1129 00:58:13.360 --> 00:58:15.840 the recliners a little bit. You know, we worked twenty 1130 00:58:15.880 --> 00:58:19.800 four hours, you leave us alone. So we were watching 1131 00:58:20.079 --> 00:58:22.000 Alien Alien Earth. 1132 00:58:22.400 --> 00:58:24.119 Oh and I've been told by so many people to 1133 00:58:24.199 --> 00:58:24.679 check that out. 1134 00:58:24.760 --> 00:58:27.199 Yeah, it's a pretty cool show. But in the first episode, 1135 00:58:27.199 --> 00:58:31.119 they literally transferred this girl's consciousness who was very sick, 1136 00:58:31.599 --> 00:58:37.480 and moved it into a synthetic body. So there's this 1137 00:58:37.639 --> 00:58:43.119 idea of switching conscious or just moving this conscious over 1138 00:58:43.199 --> 00:58:44.840 to the to the next one. And it's kind of 1139 00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:47.000 like from the from the movie as well. 1140 00:58:47.360 --> 00:58:50.480 It was something that was Netflix where these two kids 1141 00:58:50.559 --> 00:58:52.719 astro projected at the same time. Every the other one 1142 00:58:52.760 --> 00:58:54.039 was trick and the other one know whe they could 1143 00:58:54.039 --> 00:58:56.840 go with their body. It was the craziest See. It 1144 00:58:56.880 --> 00:58:59.440 was like it was a gay dude and a girl, 1145 00:58:59.800 --> 00:59:03.199 and the gay guy like the girls fucking dude. So 1146 00:59:03.599 --> 00:59:07.199 like he switched bodies so he could freak off with 1147 00:59:07.239 --> 00:59:10.599 the guy and she he thinks, it's yeah crazy. I 1148 00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:12.280 was just like, yo, like this got weird and just 1149 00:59:12.320 --> 00:59:12.920 even weirder. 1150 00:59:13.480 --> 00:59:15.800 So does this does this idea have something to do 1151 00:59:15.880 --> 00:59:17.039 with kind of like but when. 1152 00:59:16.920 --> 00:59:18.639 I saw that, I was just like, yo, I do 1153 00:59:18.800 --> 00:59:22.639 believe the text possible? Oh man, But I mean there's 1154 00:59:22.639 --> 00:59:26.480 been stuff. There's been stuff I talk about like. 1155 00:59:26.760 --> 00:59:28.920 For like you know, a human to kind of understand 1156 00:59:28.920 --> 00:59:30.599 because it's supernatural. 1157 00:59:30.039 --> 00:59:33.000 Right, there's even stuff like it. Like it's like I 1158 00:59:33.079 --> 00:59:36.280 don't I can't like speak on it too much only 1159 00:59:36.320 --> 00:59:38.920 because like there's not too much day to read, but 1160 00:59:39.039 --> 00:59:41.760 like or to even see like people went and got 1161 00:59:41.800 --> 00:59:43.840 like you know, it depends if they want to take 1162 00:59:43.840 --> 00:59:46.239 it for what it's worth. You can probably find the 1163 00:59:46.239 --> 00:59:49.840 PDF of the Secret Rituals of the O two and uh, 1164 00:59:50.280 --> 00:59:52.159 they go up to only a certain degree. And I 1165 00:59:52.199 --> 00:59:55.199 can tell you from like the first three that I took. 1166 00:59:56.000 --> 00:59:58.519 I mean there was maybe a little bit of stuff missing, 1167 00:59:58.559 --> 01:00:02.400 but I mean just stuff that's really important wasn't there. 1168 01:00:02.920 --> 01:00:04.599 So like I knew, I. 1169 01:00:04.639 --> 01:00:06.199 Knew what I was gonna do before I did it, 1170 01:00:06.239 --> 01:00:08.039 because I already right ahead of it, you. 1171 01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:08.519 Know what I'm saying. 1172 01:00:08.639 --> 01:00:11.400 So like at one of them, though, I higher up it, 1173 01:00:11.440 --> 01:00:13.239 so I was talking about like taking I think like 1174 01:00:13.280 --> 01:00:15.840 the soul out of a hom oculus and like which 1175 01:00:15.880 --> 01:00:19.639 I do think is the brain, uh try and trying 1176 01:00:19.639 --> 01:00:22.519 to put trying to put something back in before the 1177 01:00:22.599 --> 01:00:25.360 ego comes back. So it sounds like, in my opinion 1178 01:00:25.360 --> 01:00:28.840 that you're like kind of swapping ship. And I was like, oh, 1179 01:00:28.840 --> 01:00:30.079 that's a little fucking weird. 1180 01:00:30.519 --> 01:00:31.559 Yeah the idea. 1181 01:00:31.599 --> 01:00:34.960 I mean again, I'm not a member, so yeah, yeah, yeah. 1182 01:00:35.000 --> 01:00:38.960 Yeah I was. I was. I had on a buddy 1183 01:00:38.960 --> 01:00:41.719 of mine who lives in the area near me one 1184 01:00:41.760 --> 01:00:42.280 on one. 1185 01:00:42.760 --> 01:00:45.440 Oh yeah yeah, I think once or twice. Cool dude. 1186 01:00:45.440 --> 01:00:47.199 I like him, yeah one one. It's a good guy 1187 01:00:47.239 --> 01:00:50.159 man and uh real nice guy, very respectful guy. 1188 01:00:50.239 --> 01:00:51.840 Yeah, he comes to the Monculous. We had him on 1189 01:00:51.880 --> 01:00:52.119 for that. 1190 01:00:52.280 --> 01:00:54.360 Yeah yeah, he talks about the monkeylus. You know, it 1191 01:00:54.360 --> 01:01:01.679 seems like there's so why is alchemy and what's the 1192 01:01:01.719 --> 01:01:03.880 connection with alchemy? 1193 01:01:03.960 --> 01:01:10.480 And that's why I do think the homoculous why speak 1194 01:01:10.599 --> 01:01:12.760 kind of hard for you to explain, but I do 1195 01:01:12.840 --> 01:01:17.239 think it sometimes is the brain or like it even 1196 01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:19.559 shows like if you went and looked up the homoculous, 1197 01:01:19.559 --> 01:01:22.760 you'll see how like a body is used like alongside 1198 01:01:22.760 --> 01:01:25.039 the brain to show like how it controls those things 1199 01:01:25.079 --> 01:01:29.159 like you will find like even like I think medical 1200 01:01:29.239 --> 01:01:32.320 terms actually showing the momoculars possibly being used to represent 1201 01:01:32.320 --> 01:01:37.840 the brain. Fuck where was it? Oh again? I do 1202 01:01:37.920 --> 01:01:46.119 think that if if death is a reality of magic, 1203 01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:49.960 there's going to be a story from like when your 1204 01:01:50.000 --> 01:01:53.320 eyes are open till they're closed, to like going to 1205 01:01:53.400 --> 01:01:55.239 your brain and leaving your body. 1206 01:01:55.599 --> 01:01:57.199 Like honestly like that. 1207 01:01:57.199 --> 01:02:00.639 That's my opinion that from everything is from your eyes 1208 01:02:00.719 --> 01:02:02.960 in here to your brain maybe even some of your 1209 01:02:03.000 --> 01:02:05.760 other stuff. Believe it or not, There is there's paintings, 1210 01:02:05.920 --> 01:02:09.559 there's symbology, there's sigils, there's all sorts of stuff actually 1211 01:02:09.599 --> 01:02:14.280 showing all that, especially the eyeballs. The Catholic Church is 1212 01:02:14.559 --> 01:02:17.880 loaded with the inside of the eye of your eyeball. 1213 01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:20.039 People don't even realize. 1214 01:02:20.000 --> 01:02:21.760 How far back does that symbolism go. 1215 01:02:22.800 --> 01:02:26.239 I mean to when I was in Italy. It's all 1216 01:02:26.280 --> 01:02:29.000 over that that stuff that you know, stuff in Rome. 1217 01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:31.000 I mean it's everywhere. Yeah. 1218 01:02:31.119 --> 01:02:33.320 Is it like ancient Egyptian only, or is it like 1219 01:02:33.400 --> 01:02:36.199 go all the way back to ancient Mesopotamia or. 1220 01:02:38.159 --> 01:02:42.519 I'd say their style of how they show certain things 1221 01:02:43.679 --> 01:02:47.960 like in my opinion, you know, I don't I don't 1222 01:02:47.960 --> 01:02:49.719 want anybody take offense to it. If I'm looking at 1223 01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:52.400 it like this, I don't put any less value into it. 1224 01:02:52.480 --> 01:02:56.679 But the sea show is used a lot in my opinion. 1225 01:02:56.719 --> 01:03:00.000 You know, we see water running from it. In your eye, 1226 01:03:00.400 --> 01:03:04.920 the or serato looks like a seashell, and above it 1227 01:03:05.079 --> 01:03:07.400 you'll have liquid in your eye that has blood in it, 1228 01:03:07.880 --> 01:03:13.000 called the ocuous the vitreous humor. But then underneath where 1229 01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:19.280 that seashell our serado looks, you have regular water. And 1230 01:03:19.400 --> 01:03:21.760 so I mean to me, it's she's just seeing the seashell, 1231 01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:24.440 and then you're seeing the water right there. And above 1232 01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:27.639 the seashell is a thing that looks like your hilloyd 1233 01:03:27.639 --> 01:03:29.760 canal goes up, and then you have the virtuous nerves 1234 01:03:29.800 --> 01:03:31.719 that hang down and it looks just like a tree, 1235 01:03:32.480 --> 01:03:35.119 and the things that are inside the virtuous nerves almost 1236 01:03:35.119 --> 01:03:38.599 look like pomegranates. So it's like you don't like wondering. 1237 01:03:38.639 --> 01:03:40.679 It's like, you know, you're going from water to wine too, 1238 01:03:40.760 --> 01:03:43.079 almost like it looks like going from the water to 1239 01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:46.480 now blood inside liquid. Like there's a lot of things 1240 01:03:46.480 --> 01:03:49.000 in the eyeballs that I actually think is all over 1241 01:03:49.079 --> 01:03:54.159 the Catholic Church and in the Bible, honestly, right right, Yeah, 1242 01:03:55.519 --> 01:03:57.440 I could, Like, I could show you, like if you 1243 01:03:57.440 --> 01:03:59.599 were to pick up a view of the eyeball and 1244 01:03:59.639 --> 01:04:04.320 then look the Birth of Venus the same thing. Really, 1245 01:04:04.400 --> 01:04:08.239 that guy knew exactly what the eyeball looked like. Oh wow, geez, 1246 01:04:08.559 --> 01:04:10.960 I could I could easily like yeah, I mean, I'll 1247 01:04:10.960 --> 01:04:12.960 send you after the show. I'll send you the I 1248 01:04:13.000 --> 01:04:15.039 have on my computer and you'll be like, yeah, this 1249 01:04:15.079 --> 01:04:18.920 guy was talking smack, that's crazy. Yeah. I even had 1250 01:04:18.960 --> 01:04:20.480 the statue. You can't even see it too well, but 1251 01:04:20.519 --> 01:04:23.119 I mean, I gotta check on my own. Nothing of 1252 01:04:23.159 --> 01:04:25.280 it probably looks like the occult and it is or 1253 01:04:25.320 --> 01:04:27.599 an eyeball, I believe it or I it is. It 1254 01:04:27.679 --> 01:04:29.760 is an artistic depiction of the inside of the eye 1255 01:04:30.320 --> 01:04:32.559 to mine to the way I look at it. 1256 01:04:32.760 --> 01:04:38.280 Interesting I had. I had Raven on one time and 1257 01:04:38.320 --> 01:04:39.360 top Lobster from. 1258 01:04:39.360 --> 01:04:42.880 Definitely Yeah Yeah Yeah, I was all. 1259 01:04:43.280 --> 01:04:46.920 Yeah, yeah, oh are you okay? Raven brought up one 1260 01:04:46.960 --> 01:04:51.000 time because we were talking about the movie Avengers. We 1261 01:04:51.079 --> 01:04:53.239 were getting in. I was on their show and I 1262 01:04:53.280 --> 01:04:59.239 was getting into how Ouldtron is this anti Christ figure? 1263 01:04:59.519 --> 01:05:02.400 It goes from being AI it goes from and it 1264 01:05:02.440 --> 01:05:06.239 literally it's literally went through the stages of development. It 1265 01:05:06.239 --> 01:05:12.519 went through you know, artificial intelligence, artificial general intelligence, artificial superintelligence. 1266 01:05:12.559 --> 01:05:14.559 But then at one point he was seeking a body 1267 01:05:15.119 --> 01:05:16.880 and this kind of goes to like the transfer of 1268 01:05:16.880 --> 01:05:21.519 the consciousness. Where what was Ultron doing in that movie? 1269 01:05:21.639 --> 01:05:26.199 He was actually building a body for himself, a monkeylus 1270 01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:30.199 maybe right, but he was building a body for himself 1271 01:05:30.760 --> 01:05:35.880 who was vision and vision. He actually threw up the 1272 01:05:36.199 --> 01:05:40.679 sigil of Lucifer And it's actually how our eyes receive 1273 01:05:40.920 --> 01:05:45.599 light from you know, you know what I'm saying. 1274 01:05:45.679 --> 01:05:48.639 So even the unicoasal hextagram even gets very close to that, 1275 01:05:49.400 --> 01:05:51.559 believe it or not. In NASA, like I had mentioned before, 1276 01:05:51.599 --> 01:05:55.440 the Hubble telescope, the way it reflects the mirrors reflect 1277 01:05:55.480 --> 01:05:58.440 the light to get the image makes the universal extram. 1278 01:06:00.559 --> 01:06:03.840 That's another reason why I think NASA magical. 1279 01:06:03.920 --> 01:06:07.559 Sieh, this is uh, Let's see if I can screen 1280 01:06:07.599 --> 01:06:10.039 share this with you just for the audience so they 1281 01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:14.559 can kind of check this Out's see here, So this 1282 01:06:14.679 --> 01:06:18.159 is the Yeah, this is the sigil, and this is 1283 01:06:18.239 --> 01:06:21.519 like how the was it the corneal cortex. I don't know. 1284 01:06:22.039 --> 01:06:26.519 I'm not a Yeah, it reflects off of the lens. Yeah, 1285 01:06:26.559 --> 01:06:29.719 exactly right, right right. And it was funny how how 1286 01:06:29.880 --> 01:06:36.599 the the uh, the the body he was creating was 1287 01:06:36.639 --> 01:06:39.000 called vision. So I found that interesting. 1288 01:06:40.039 --> 01:06:42.280 See like that something to me would make me think 1289 01:06:42.360 --> 01:06:44.920 that he was the brain and then vision was what 1290 01:06:45.039 --> 01:06:51.880 he created, okay, yeah, or a way to become self 1291 01:06:51.880 --> 01:06:58.679 aware ah, or because you can see yeah, yeah, because 1292 01:06:58.679 --> 01:07:00.239 that gives you the option to be able to a 1293 01:07:00.280 --> 01:07:03.159 reflection of yourself somehow you don't see something you know 1294 01:07:03.239 --> 01:07:06.360 you have, you have a way to have an idea 1295 01:07:06.440 --> 01:07:07.519 of self and what. 1296 01:07:07.360 --> 01:07:11.320 You're not the least hm hmm. Interesting. 1297 01:07:12.320 --> 01:07:14.599 I guess I was in some deep stuff. I think 1298 01:07:14.639 --> 01:07:17.039 it might actually be like that. You never know. 1299 01:07:17.199 --> 01:07:20.920 Yeah, do you do you think? Do you think like 1300 01:07:21.000 --> 01:07:26.320 Aleister Crowley, Jack Parsons? You know, uh, these people were 1301 01:07:26.320 --> 01:07:28.559 trying to bring in some sort of anti Christ. 1302 01:07:30.719 --> 01:07:33.159 I wouldn't doubt it. 1303 01:07:32.519 --> 01:07:34.360 Or some sort of and again that could be kind 1304 01:07:34.360 --> 01:07:35.280 of you know general. 1305 01:07:35.400 --> 01:07:38.159 Oh yeah, well I just take that as like anything. 1306 01:07:37.880 --> 01:07:43.159 Negative, something something to because again I think they were 1307 01:07:43.239 --> 01:07:48.039 here too mentally manipulated humans. I think all three of 1308 01:07:48.039 --> 01:07:49.360 them are part of something to do that. 1309 01:07:50.320 --> 01:07:53.559 Yeah, yeah, because I mean Alana Blovlosky, she kind of 1310 01:07:53.559 --> 01:07:57.519 talks about this like Luciferian doctrine and the ushering in 1311 01:07:57.599 --> 01:08:02.599 of of what that entity is. And then Alice Bailey 1312 01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:06.320 talks about the what's she talked about. I forget, it's 1313 01:08:06.320 --> 01:08:09.119 the it's like the one of the it's it's bigger 1314 01:08:09.119 --> 01:08:13.079 than the ascending Master. It's like this this this maitra 1315 01:08:13.440 --> 01:08:17.720 mitra or I gotta find the exact spelling on it. 1316 01:08:23.439 --> 01:08:29.399 Let me see here to do. I'm trying to find 1317 01:08:29.439 --> 01:08:34.960 it on Google. Oh goodness, well it sucks. Sorry everybody. 1318 01:08:34.960 --> 01:08:38.039 I'll figure it out. We'll circle back around. But it 1319 01:08:38.119 --> 01:08:41.239 was was basically that there's going to be like this 1320 01:08:41.399 --> 01:08:45.800 Christ that kind of comes into the world. Biblically, you know, 1321 01:08:45.840 --> 01:08:47.760 we view that as like the anti Christ, because we 1322 01:08:47.800 --> 01:08:52.239 believe the Christ already came. And so I guess I'll 1323 01:08:52.279 --> 01:08:53.880 just pick your brain on this, like do you think 1324 01:08:53.960 --> 01:08:58.439 the occult is still working on that through rituals or 1325 01:08:58.439 --> 01:09:02.560 whatever it is to bring in I don't know, this 1326 01:09:02.720 --> 01:09:06.479 idea of a world ruler. 1327 01:09:07.199 --> 01:09:12.319 I guess, oh yeah, yeah. I mean I would say 1328 01:09:12.319 --> 01:09:14.239 they're all part of like kind of like where where 1329 01:09:14.560 --> 01:09:15.800 how we've gotten to where we are? 1330 01:09:15.840 --> 01:09:19.920 Today because we know the concept of like you know, 1331 01:09:19.960 --> 01:09:24.039 a new world order all this stuff AI, and it 1332 01:09:24.119 --> 01:09:27.159 seems like at some point, when are they going to 1333 01:09:27.239 --> 01:09:31.159 just give the keys to this certain thing and just say, hey, 1334 01:09:31.560 --> 01:09:35.319 the world is yours now if that makes sense? You know, 1335 01:09:35.520 --> 01:09:39.199 who knows what entity it'll consist of or you know. 1336 01:09:39.479 --> 01:09:42.119 I mean, I've got my beliefs, but it seems like, 1337 01:09:42.159 --> 01:09:44.720 at least from my research, that they're really pushing hard 1338 01:09:44.760 --> 01:09:48.000 with this through certain rituals. Again, I'm not an expert 1339 01:09:48.000 --> 01:09:51.680 on the rituals, but it seems to be like these 1340 01:09:51.760 --> 01:09:56.319 rituals can do really supernatural things, almost like unlocked doorways. 1341 01:09:56.680 --> 01:09:59.199 Yeah, I really like you create like an energetic field 1342 01:09:59.279 --> 01:10:00.520 or something reaction. 1343 01:10:00.720 --> 01:10:03.399 Yeah, Now do you believe in like portals? 1344 01:10:03.880 --> 01:10:04.560 Yeah? 1345 01:10:04.600 --> 01:10:08.159 Actually, Okay, have you ever had any experiences with maybe 1346 01:10:08.520 --> 01:10:11.960 you know, you know, doing that or maybe someone that 1347 01:10:12.000 --> 01:10:12.920 you do believe it or not. 1348 01:10:13.039 --> 01:10:15.159 The reason why I believe that more is because of 1349 01:10:15.199 --> 01:10:19.680 people that have actually purposely but personally met that are 1350 01:10:19.680 --> 01:10:22.600 in the science into science and actually like maybe looking 1351 01:10:22.640 --> 01:10:25.079 into that, or and because of like just like certain 1352 01:10:25.279 --> 01:10:26.680 like Auston Forbes and other people that. 1353 01:10:27.000 --> 01:10:28.279 I was going to bring that up too. I was 1354 01:10:28.279 --> 01:10:30.079 gonna I was gonna be like, you know what, what 1355 01:10:30.159 --> 01:10:31.000 does he talk about? 1356 01:10:31.159 --> 01:10:33.279 Greenier too? I think it was rather interesting he was 1357 01:10:33.359 --> 01:10:35.720 kind of presenting stuff like that at the Cosmic Summit too. 1358 01:10:36.439 --> 01:10:39.960 Okay, Yeah, I think talking about you. 1359 01:10:39.880 --> 01:10:41.840 Know, he thinks that they have that type of technology. 1360 01:10:41.880 --> 01:10:45.640 Basically for me, I think portals. Why I think it's 1361 01:10:46.119 --> 01:10:49.439 possible is because, uh, I do question if it's I 1362 01:10:49.479 --> 01:10:53.079 think I think a lot of times when they're trying 1363 01:10:53.079 --> 01:10:55.840 to do like weird stuff, like even I wonder about 1364 01:10:55.960 --> 01:11:00.159 certain you question if they're trying to take this may 1365 01:11:00.199 --> 01:11:06.640 sound crazy like one person's personal magical experience whatever. I 1366 01:11:06.680 --> 01:11:10.000 do believe there's some sort of it's gonna sound crazy. 1367 01:11:10.039 --> 01:11:13.920 I think it's like you're almost implode. It's like if 1368 01:11:13.920 --> 01:11:17.399 you're soul has hard to explain, but it feels like 1369 01:11:17.439 --> 01:11:19.439 you go one way and then go sucked out the 1370 01:11:19.479 --> 01:11:21.159 other way. So it's almost like kind of like how 1371 01:11:21.159 --> 01:11:23.479 you would even see like a black hole even come 1372 01:11:23.520 --> 01:11:26.319 to be you know what happens at the end. It does. 1373 01:11:26.520 --> 01:11:29.439 It does actually feel like that, and it sounds crazy. 1374 01:11:29.560 --> 01:11:32.680 So uh, sometimes I wonder if this technology and the 1375 01:11:32.720 --> 01:11:35.560 stuff that they're making is trying to mass produce that 1376 01:11:35.760 --> 01:11:38.920 one small little event that happens to a person when 1377 01:11:38.960 --> 01:11:41.800 their soul leaves their body, if they're trying to take 1378 01:11:41.800 --> 01:11:44.479 that and like miss produce it, and then that that 1379 01:11:44.520 --> 01:11:48.960 would possibly create portals. Because I do think with with 1380 01:11:49.119 --> 01:11:52.319 magic in a sense, you're kind of going like when 1381 01:11:52.359 --> 01:11:53.960 you when you come back, you're back to the future. 1382 01:11:54.039 --> 01:11:55.920 Like it sounds like silly, but like you're kind of 1383 01:11:55.920 --> 01:11:58.279 going back in time before the flesh, when you were 1384 01:11:58.319 --> 01:12:01.800 a spirit, before you inhabited this spot. So I do 1385 01:12:01.880 --> 01:12:05.239 think like in a sense you can start you can 1386 01:12:05.399 --> 01:12:07.399 like play around. I think as. 1387 01:12:07.199 --> 01:12:10.800 Well right now, is this like something as far as 1388 01:12:10.880 --> 01:12:13.399 like fourth dimension talk or well. 1389 01:12:13.359 --> 01:12:15.479 I think kind of going more into the spirit, which 1390 01:12:15.680 --> 01:12:19.119 like I actually you like more on again, Like again, 1391 01:12:19.159 --> 01:12:21.319 this is where I start like thinking that science and 1392 01:12:21.359 --> 01:12:25.199 the occult starts the match if you you could. Technically, 1393 01:12:25.720 --> 01:12:29.319 I can't explain it the best. This Ricardo guy's a genius. 1394 01:12:29.319 --> 01:12:31.000 He's on you know, part of the Occult Rejects team. 1395 01:12:31.039 --> 01:12:35.359 He has his own stuff too natural it's to a philosophy, uh, 1396 01:12:36.439 --> 01:12:38.760 I mean he even has like that you know, paperwork 1397 01:12:38.800 --> 01:12:41.119 and everything from other people, not him, you know, but 1398 01:12:41.199 --> 01:12:44.079 you know it's been reviewing all stuff like it's you know, 1399 01:12:44.560 --> 01:12:47.119 taken to be possible, or you know, you know it 1400 01:12:47.239 --> 01:12:51.039 is possible. You know, just matching frequencies in certain ways 1401 01:12:51.079 --> 01:12:53.279 you can actually travel like from one place to the 1402 01:12:53.359 --> 01:12:55.159 next or that really having to do anything as long 1403 01:12:55.199 --> 01:12:59.119 as you link up with this like certain frequency could 1404 01:12:59.159 --> 01:13:02.199 be everything just be able to kind of almost go 1405 01:13:02.319 --> 01:13:04.159 back and like back and forth through the whole fight. 1406 01:13:05.039 --> 01:13:08.560 Sounds crazy, but like it would It just basically kind 1407 01:13:08.560 --> 01:13:11.560 of like almost like we'll get through a portal, and 1408 01:13:12.800 --> 01:13:17.760 our government has technology to like make holograms like in 1409 01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:20.720 the woods, so it's like, you know, like if they 1410 01:13:20.720 --> 01:13:22.479 could do that, like maybe they can make portals too. 1411 01:13:22.479 --> 01:13:27.479 I don't know, you know, right right exactly. That's crazy man. 1412 01:13:28.520 --> 01:13:34.159 So so have you had any experiences with magic? You know, 1413 01:13:34.199 --> 01:13:39.119 because I saw an awesome clip of yours that Bennett 1414 01:13:39.159 --> 01:13:43.920 made talking about you know, liver king. 1415 01:13:44.039 --> 01:13:47.159 Oh the eye stuff. Yo. When every time I have 1416 01:13:47.279 --> 01:13:50.800 a mess with magic, one of my eyeballs always blows 1417 01:13:50.880 --> 01:13:53.479 up and the other one gets pinned. There'll be anywhere 1418 01:13:53.520 --> 01:13:55.359 from like four to six millimeters in a difference, and 1419 01:13:55.399 --> 01:13:57.159 if it's like six, that means the other one's fully 1420 01:13:57.159 --> 01:13:59.319 at eight and the other one's at two. But like 1421 01:13:59.359 --> 01:14:03.359 I remember, like when it happened, it was like there's 1422 01:14:03.399 --> 01:14:05.560 a four millimeter difference. But I mean still that's like 1423 01:14:06.079 --> 01:14:08.079 you notice it you look at somebody's eyes and be like, 1424 01:14:08.079 --> 01:14:10.079 what the fuck is wrong with those? But yeah, like 1425 01:14:10.079 --> 01:14:11.479 one we'll get all the way small and the other 1426 01:14:11.520 --> 01:14:14.319 one's bigger. That happens every time I have a magical 1427 01:14:14.359 --> 01:14:17.079 experience when I open up my eyes some you know, 1428 01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:19.479 a couple of times it took weeks for it to 1429 01:14:19.520 --> 01:14:21.800 go away, or sometimes to go away after a few days. 1430 01:14:22.800 --> 01:14:25.399 Every time, what kind of like it kind of like 1431 01:14:25.439 --> 01:14:27.039 makes me think of what you were talking about about 1432 01:14:27.079 --> 01:14:29.520 the eye in general. Right, That's what. 1433 01:14:29.479 --> 01:14:31.439 Started making me look into the eye and I started 1434 01:14:31.479 --> 01:14:33.680 realizing how weird it is, and I. 1435 01:14:33.600 --> 01:14:35.359 Was like, wow, that looks like a cult sigil. 1436 01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:36.600 That looks like a caled art. 1437 01:14:37.439 --> 01:14:41.560 Yeah, I mean you actually had like symptomatic effects. 1438 01:14:41.920 --> 01:14:44.479 Yeah, And like even though the hospital said, like, you 1439 01:14:44.479 --> 01:14:46.479 you know, whatever basic stuff they did, they're like, you know, 1440 01:14:46.520 --> 01:14:48.319 you seem to be seeing all right, you know, but 1441 01:14:48.520 --> 01:14:50.239 go see a specialist and then you know whatever, I 1442 01:14:50.319 --> 01:14:53.479 went and saw when like two weeks later, when I 1443 01:14:53.520 --> 01:14:55.840 got there it went down from four to three. So 1444 01:14:55.880 --> 01:14:58.319 it took like almost two weeks for it to really 1445 01:14:58.319 --> 01:15:00.760 go down that that, and I think like a week 1446 01:15:01.000 --> 01:15:02.800 a week later it was totally fine, but like it 1447 01:15:02.800 --> 01:15:04.399 took a while for it to even go down after 1448 01:15:04.439 --> 01:15:07.520 the first one, after that time with me, but uh, 1449 01:15:07.880 --> 01:15:09.920 she noticed it, and she had even like she did 1450 01:15:09.960 --> 01:15:11.479 all her things. I looked at all this stuff and 1451 01:15:11.520 --> 01:15:14.800 she was even like, your ees, sight's fine. She's like, 1452 01:15:14.920 --> 01:15:17.199 I know, I'm looking at everything. She's like, I can't 1453 01:15:17.199 --> 01:15:19.520 even tell you why this happened, what's wrong? 1454 01:15:20.840 --> 01:15:23.319 And this is consistent. This is something that happens pretty 1455 01:15:23.399 --> 01:15:24.760 much every time. 1456 01:15:25.439 --> 01:15:29.560 If I think I was saying before, there is a 1457 01:15:30.079 --> 01:15:35.159 certain uh things that always repeat visually and physically. I 1458 01:15:35.159 --> 01:15:39.920 feel certain experiences before I cross the biz, so I 1459 01:15:40.119 --> 01:15:42.920 know I know when to fold them. You know. If 1460 01:15:42.960 --> 01:15:45.039 I don't want to go that far, I know to 1461 01:15:45.039 --> 01:15:50.000 bring on the fear that will stop. Uh. If I 1462 01:15:50.119 --> 01:15:52.960 bring myself kind of close to the edge and like 1463 01:15:53.880 --> 01:15:56.960 hold myself there, and it's like again it's like I 1464 01:15:57.079 --> 01:15:59.199 will be seeing a specific image and if I just 1465 01:15:59.199 --> 01:16:01.319 like kind of hold it, don't let it do the 1466 01:16:01.359 --> 01:16:07.000 next thing, I can kind of get some benefits out 1467 01:16:07.000 --> 01:16:08.680 of it, almost like magic, to where it's like I 1468 01:16:08.760 --> 01:16:12.680 might be energetic or like I might understand it a 1469 01:16:12.720 --> 01:16:15.640 little bit, a little bit more than I would not 1470 01:16:15.720 --> 01:16:18.159 as much as if I actually dived in, you know. 1471 01:16:18.279 --> 01:16:22.039 Or it could be very what's the word I'm looking for. 1472 01:16:22.720 --> 01:16:25.039 It's just something that could give me like passion or 1473 01:16:25.039 --> 01:16:26.760 something like, oh, give me an idea that like, oh, 1474 01:16:26.800 --> 01:16:27.960 I got to work on this. This is what I 1475 01:16:28.000 --> 01:16:30.239 gotta do, you know, whatever it gives me ideas. It 1476 01:16:30.279 --> 01:16:34.239 could almost be like a muse. I guess I figure 1477 01:16:34.239 --> 01:16:35.880 I was going, oh, so like I can hold myself 1478 01:16:35.880 --> 01:16:38.119 to the edge and that go completely over and then 1479 01:16:38.119 --> 01:16:39.840 when I come out of it. Sometimes even when I 1480 01:16:39.880 --> 01:16:42.560 do that, you'll even see a difference. I've actually it 1481 01:16:42.600 --> 01:16:44.079 was a long time ago, but I even did that 1482 01:16:44.119 --> 01:16:46.279 on one time I posted my eyes on Twitter. It's 1483 01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:48.520 probably like two years ago at this point, and I 1484 01:16:48.560 --> 01:16:50.520 was like, Oh, this what happens when you magic? And 1485 01:16:50.600 --> 01:16:51.880 my pupils were totally different? 1486 01:16:53.399 --> 01:16:57.439 Could you take me through like like what consists of 1487 01:16:57.640 --> 01:17:00.000 you know, doing I don't know what to call it, 1488 01:17:00.079 --> 01:17:02.680 like a magic show or it's not like a magic show, right, 1489 01:17:02.760 --> 01:17:05.159 but it's what does it look like. 1490 01:17:06.279 --> 01:17:07.800 Oh, like when I crossed the abyss. 1491 01:17:08.159 --> 01:17:09.800 Yeah, like uh. 1492 01:17:11.399 --> 01:17:14.399 For me, believe it or not. The only times that 1493 01:17:14.479 --> 01:17:17.760 ever happened that serious, it was me just sitting in 1494 01:17:17.760 --> 01:17:21.159 a chair meditating. I did not do any ritual work 1495 01:17:21.199 --> 01:17:21.560 at will. 1496 01:17:21.640 --> 01:17:26.359 Actually, are you like totally cut off from all sensory 1497 01:17:27.000 --> 01:17:29.560 deprivate like sensory deprivation. No. 1498 01:17:29.800 --> 01:17:33.039 I did it. Sleep a sensory deprivation tank one time, 1499 01:17:33.079 --> 01:17:34.960 and like I swear, that was like kind of got 1500 01:17:34.960 --> 01:17:36.840 my kind of close there. I saw the eclipse put 1501 01:17:36.840 --> 01:17:39.039 it that way, like that we see the eclipse before 1502 01:17:39.119 --> 01:17:40.520 I blast off. 1503 01:17:40.560 --> 01:17:41.199 I was able to. 1504 01:17:41.119 --> 01:17:43.119 Bring myself to that point brother quick, in one of 1505 01:17:43.159 --> 01:17:48.359 those tanks. But uh, it's normally like I'm just believing 1506 01:17:48.479 --> 01:17:50.359 I'm just sitting in a chair with a flat back. 1507 01:17:50.399 --> 01:17:51.800 I had to make sure it was flat and put 1508 01:17:51.840 --> 01:17:55.600 my arm my arms like this on my legs, my 1509 01:17:55.720 --> 01:17:59.279 back straight, close my eyes and go into meditation for 1510 01:17:59.319 --> 01:18:00.920 a while to be so, and techniques that I would 1511 01:18:00.960 --> 01:18:02.800 do to this like try to like feel my body 1512 01:18:02.880 --> 01:18:04.840 or you know, and feel the energy go up and down. 1513 01:18:04.880 --> 01:18:07.920 I work on chakras and stuff. But at one point 1514 01:18:07.960 --> 01:18:12.439 I started noticing like if I was like some people. 1515 01:18:12.479 --> 01:18:14.279 I don't know if people listen to your show mess 1516 01:18:14.319 --> 01:18:17.079 with chakras, but like some people will say that they 1517 01:18:17.079 --> 01:18:19.760 can feel them or it almost feels like a spinning bull. 1518 01:18:21.399 --> 01:18:24.880 And points. These are these points right throughout the body 1519 01:18:25.199 --> 01:18:26.359 is what the chakras are. 1520 01:18:28.199 --> 01:18:34.399 And uh, the third eye, I was pressing on it 1521 01:18:34.560 --> 01:18:36.640 like it's like you could like kind of feel like 1522 01:18:36.680 --> 01:18:40.359 the energetic bulls. And I was one time, like I 1523 01:18:40.560 --> 01:18:43.079 was pushing on it when I was meditating, and it's 1524 01:18:43.119 --> 01:18:44.960 gonna sound weird, but like it seemed like it made 1525 01:18:45.039 --> 01:18:48.279 the blackness that I already had from my eyes being closed, 1526 01:18:48.319 --> 01:18:50.479 like darker like and it almost looked like it was 1527 01:18:50.560 --> 01:18:54.039 just like like like as I pushed on it. And 1528 01:18:54.119 --> 01:18:55.720 I remember that and I was like, I gotta do 1529 01:18:55.760 --> 01:19:02.439 that again, you know why not? So what does the 1530 01:19:02.479 --> 01:19:05.000 magician doing presses the buttons and what happened? 1531 01:19:07.960 --> 01:19:10.479 That's a good one, yeah, exactly. 1532 01:19:11.399 --> 01:19:13.239 It's like he goes to the elevantor this guy gotta hit. 1533 01:19:13.119 --> 01:19:16.840 Every flood right right, because there's no there's like no 1534 01:19:16.880 --> 01:19:18.279 protocol to these things, right. 1535 01:19:18.279 --> 01:19:20.720 It's more like, well, that was even another reason why 1536 01:19:20.800 --> 01:19:24.359 I hadn't. I mean, there's multiple reasons why I left 1537 01:19:24.399 --> 01:19:28.720 the oto, but one of them was my opinion, someone 1538 01:19:28.720 --> 01:19:31.880 there is someone there has to know what's up. I 1539 01:19:31.960 --> 01:19:34.159 don't believe that you all, none of you have had 1540 01:19:34.159 --> 01:19:39.000 a magical experience. You should really tell people what magic 1541 01:19:39.119 --> 01:19:41.680 might be. You give a little bit more of a 1542 01:19:41.720 --> 01:19:45.319 background of what it can tell, because if it is 1543 01:19:45.359 --> 01:19:48.159 really what I think it is, it's that's rather serious. 1544 01:19:49.720 --> 01:19:51.399 Like if somebody would have told me, oh, yeah, well 1545 01:19:52.079 --> 01:19:54.359 you want to practice magic, You're gonna have to probably 1546 01:19:54.399 --> 01:20:00.600 die for like ten seconds. Maybe yeah, there, you're gonna 1547 01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:01.600 bring up flatliners. 1548 01:20:02.199 --> 01:20:05.399 Yes, yes, Hey, I'm a movie guy, dude, and I 1549 01:20:06.239 --> 01:20:07.039 was just. 1550 01:20:06.760 --> 01:20:07.520 Gonna bring it up. 1551 01:20:08.800 --> 01:20:10.039 I was just gonna bring it up. 1552 01:20:09.920 --> 01:20:14.079 And say that ship really that's crazy. 1553 01:20:14.399 --> 01:20:17.880 That's basically you're basically watching what uh a cheat code 1554 01:20:17.960 --> 01:20:19.720 or a short cut to a magical expanse would be. 1555 01:20:20.720 --> 01:20:22.680 And what was the what was the goal they were 1556 01:20:22.680 --> 01:20:25.279 trying to achieve in that movie? I think just like 1557 01:20:25.359 --> 01:20:27.640 they're just trying to just cross over, right, Yeah. 1558 01:20:27.880 --> 01:20:29.720 And then every time they came back there, things were 1559 01:20:29.720 --> 01:20:31.720 always like they do different things or like things. It 1560 01:20:31.800 --> 01:20:33.119 just wasn't the same anymore either. 1561 01:20:34.880 --> 01:20:35.479 That is one thing. 1562 01:20:35.479 --> 01:20:37.800 When I went to the I ended up in the hospital. 1563 01:20:38.880 --> 01:20:41.199 I did it like three times in a week, and like, 1564 01:20:41.279 --> 01:20:44.439 I physically did not feel right, and I was like, yo, 1565 01:20:44.560 --> 01:20:47.000 like my body just like I think I'm screwing myself up. 1566 01:20:47.840 --> 01:20:50.119 And that's when I went up going going into the hospital. 1567 01:20:50.239 --> 01:20:51.600 I'll be talking honest with I didn't feel right. My 1568 01:20:51.600 --> 01:20:54.039 head feels gonna explode. I felt like electricity going up 1569 01:20:54.119 --> 01:20:57.439 up and down my legs. My eyesight wasn't even normal, 1570 01:20:58.359 --> 01:21:01.760 and like just yeah, look like I was just like, oh, 1571 01:21:01.760 --> 01:21:03.680 this is where they get the ideas from vampires. From it. 1572 01:21:03.680 --> 01:21:05.479 It's like, yo, it was killing me to look outside. 1573 01:21:06.039 --> 01:21:07.600 It was fucking I was just like, ooh, this shit 1574 01:21:07.680 --> 01:21:11.359 is killing my eyes. Luckily, the hospital I went to 1575 01:21:11.520 --> 01:21:14.720 is only like like less than five miles five minutes away, 1576 01:21:14.760 --> 01:21:16.479 so like, I mean, I could see enough to drive, 1577 01:21:16.560 --> 01:21:19.439 I guess, so I drove myself there. But I mean 1578 01:21:19.720 --> 01:21:21.079 I was a little dangerous, but I was. I just 1579 01:21:21.079 --> 01:21:22.560 said something was wrong. 1580 01:21:22.880 --> 01:21:24.920 And I don't know what the hell they find anything. 1581 01:21:25.680 --> 01:21:28.279 Well again they think, I mean, they confirmed the eye stuff. 1582 01:21:28.279 --> 01:21:29.920 I mean, but again they don't know what was wrong. 1583 01:21:30.399 --> 01:21:32.560 Then they hit me with this thing and it's never 1584 01:21:32.680 --> 01:21:35.760 been an issue since then. I and there's a certain 1585 01:21:35.800 --> 01:21:37.960 word for if there's somebody in the medical field that 1586 01:21:38.000 --> 01:21:40.920 listens to the show that pabably know what I'm talking about. Well, 1587 01:21:41.000 --> 01:21:43.039 yea hemoglobin and starts to go up in your blood. 1588 01:21:43.119 --> 01:21:45.319 It almost kind of makes it like sludge. And sometimes 1589 01:21:45.319 --> 01:21:47.239 that could just happen and people randomly out. 1590 01:21:47.079 --> 01:21:47.520 Of know where. 1591 01:21:47.600 --> 01:21:49.920 There is certain reasons why, I can, I think, but 1592 01:21:49.960 --> 01:21:52.760 there is you know, sometimes it can just happen and 1593 01:21:52.840 --> 01:21:54.520 you may have to go like once a month and 1594 01:21:54.560 --> 01:21:56.680 get like your shit filtered, like not filter, but they'll 1595 01:21:56.680 --> 01:21:57.880 have to give you like a bag of blood that 1596 01:21:57.880 --> 01:21:59.279 it kind of like I will thin you out for 1597 01:21:59.319 --> 01:21:59.800 the next moment. 1598 01:22:01.239 --> 01:22:05.279 It's a call. It was that Polis simia or something. 1599 01:22:05.840 --> 01:22:09.600 I only had to go see the person. Definitely. I'll 1600 01:22:09.640 --> 01:22:11.439 let me just finish the story then, and you understand, 1601 01:22:11.520 --> 01:22:14.439 I really don't know the name of it. They gave 1602 01:22:14.479 --> 01:22:15.920 me a bag of blood and a bag of alien 1603 01:22:16.119 --> 01:22:19.399 when I was there and told me, which actually was 1604 01:22:19.520 --> 01:22:21.399 crazy as that I actually felt like ten times better 1605 01:22:21.399 --> 01:22:24.760 after they even did that, not going to swear to God, 1606 01:22:25.199 --> 01:22:29.720 like even like the headaches started to go away. They 1607 01:22:29.760 --> 01:22:32.159 gave me that because they said my hemoglobe was jacked 1608 01:22:32.199 --> 01:22:34.359 up from to nineteen point six, and I think they said, 1609 01:22:34.359 --> 01:22:36.760 like thirteen or fourteen is like average, and they said 1610 01:22:36.760 --> 01:22:40.920 your shit's like sludge. I was like, I don't know. Uh, 1611 01:22:40.920 --> 01:22:43.039 so they gave me that and then they said you 1612 01:22:43.119 --> 01:22:45.800 might have this whatever type of thing because they couldn't 1613 01:22:45.800 --> 01:22:48.079 figure out why it would even happen. So they're like, 1614 01:22:48.119 --> 01:22:49.600 you must be one of those one of those rare 1615 01:22:49.680 --> 01:22:51.760 people where it just happens to you. Probably might not 1616 01:22:51.800 --> 01:22:53.840 have to go and get get this done every month. 1617 01:22:54.199 --> 01:22:56.760 They said, go see this specialist. They're gonna take your 1618 01:22:56.800 --> 01:22:59.079 stuff and then they'll let you know, and you know 1619 01:22:59.079 --> 01:23:01.279 if it's if it's bad, you know, you'll probably have 1620 01:23:01.319 --> 01:23:04.319 to keep going every moment. And I went and they said, no, 1621 01:23:04.439 --> 01:23:06.319 you seem fine, just come back one more time in 1622 01:23:06.359 --> 01:23:08.239 a month. And when I went back to like, no, 1623 01:23:08.319 --> 01:23:09.920 you're fine, to like it must have been a freak 1624 01:23:10.000 --> 01:23:14.640 thing though, like never had the problem again. Wow, Yeah, 1625 01:23:14.680 --> 01:23:16.600 well I know it was gonna be some inconvenient thing 1626 01:23:16.600 --> 01:23:18.279 that I would have to once a month probably get 1627 01:23:18.279 --> 01:23:18.960 a bag of blood. 1628 01:23:19.279 --> 01:23:22.920 I was just like, yo, what yeah, yeah, so I 1629 01:23:23.000 --> 01:23:24.000 do chuck that up. 1630 01:23:23.920 --> 01:23:28.199 To possible, uh messing with magic now one thing too. 1631 01:23:28.359 --> 01:23:31.279 I think somehow in their plasma does come up or 1632 01:23:31.279 --> 01:23:34.920 get involved because I remember originally looking into it and like, 1633 01:23:35.000 --> 01:23:36.479 you know, because at one point I was like, yo, 1634 01:23:36.840 --> 01:23:38.840 something up with the eyes and the blood. You just 1635 01:23:38.920 --> 01:23:41.000 you know, after that experience and all these things wrong 1636 01:23:41.039 --> 01:23:42.560 with me, I'm just like trying to see, like what 1637 01:23:42.560 --> 01:23:45.640 can make this happen? You know, what make it sound 1638 01:23:46.119 --> 01:23:48.840 woo woo or corny? But I mean plasma is kind 1639 01:23:48.880 --> 01:23:51.079 of like light. You don't mean you think about it. 1640 01:23:51.119 --> 01:23:53.239 I mean I don't know, like is there something that's 1641 01:23:53.279 --> 01:23:56.479 being used when you shoot out of your skull to 1642 01:23:56.560 --> 01:23:59.319 the abyss? I don't know, Like I'm wondering, like if 1643 01:23:59.319 --> 01:24:01.720 you it's like some sort of fuel of something like 1644 01:24:01.760 --> 01:24:03.560 since I was kind of I'll be honest, it was 1645 01:24:03.560 --> 01:24:06.840 why abusing it? Is that why? I was like that 1646 01:24:07.560 --> 01:24:10.560 did I burn something up? Or did I overdo something? 1647 01:24:12.960 --> 01:24:15.359 Yeah, it's wild. I mean it almost makes me think 1648 01:24:15.399 --> 01:24:18.840 of Sorry. I mean I always relate everything, you know, 1649 01:24:19.039 --> 01:24:21.520 kind of like to what I know that as far 1650 01:24:21.520 --> 01:24:23.399 as the Bible where it says, you know, the life 1651 01:24:23.439 --> 01:24:25.399 is in the blood, you know, and when you look 1652 01:24:25.439 --> 01:24:28.680 at life, it's like it kind of breaks that down 1653 01:24:28.840 --> 01:24:30.520 especially when you go back to like either the Greek 1654 01:24:30.600 --> 01:24:33.079 or the Hebrew. Whenever it's used, there's context wrapped around 1655 01:24:33.079 --> 01:24:35.920 of all that stuff. But I like to dig deep, deep, 1656 01:24:36.000 --> 01:24:38.359 deep into the into the meanings of these things where 1657 01:24:39.000 --> 01:24:44.439 it's relating to consciousness. And so maybe you know, small 1658 01:24:44.520 --> 01:24:48.279 even smaller than the quantum level of things, you know, 1659 01:24:48.359 --> 01:24:51.600 maybe at the sub atomic level even maybe smaller than 1660 01:24:51.680 --> 01:24:54.720 that where we just can't see it. I can't even 1661 01:24:54.720 --> 01:24:58.960 see it through an electronic microscope, but to where you 1662 01:24:59.680 --> 01:25:05.000 there's some sort of relationship with our blood and our consciousness, 1663 01:25:05.119 --> 01:25:08.439 maybe our spirit something like that. So so when these 1664 01:25:08.439 --> 01:25:13.239 when these experiences do happen, maybe maybe when it when 1665 01:25:13.680 --> 01:25:17.640 I don't know, you know, it's like I don't know 1666 01:25:17.640 --> 01:25:19.760 how to explain it, but maybe it has something to 1667 01:25:19.800 --> 01:25:23.199 do with you know, going into these states of mind 1668 01:25:23.319 --> 01:25:26.279 or going into the you know, trying to cross this 1669 01:25:26.359 --> 01:25:30.840 abyss or whatever that you're coming back from a foreign land. 1670 01:25:30.920 --> 01:25:33.600 So yeah, you might have you might have a piece 1671 01:25:33.600 --> 01:25:34.680 of bacteria on you. 1672 01:25:34.680 --> 01:25:36.439 You don't Oh no, yeah, I do think that's sounds 1673 01:25:36.479 --> 01:25:37.159 quite possible. 1674 01:25:37.239 --> 01:25:39.079 Yes, I mean there's even like you know, so many 1675 01:25:39.119 --> 01:25:41.560 protocols are to like build like some sort of barrier 1676 01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:44.920 around you. Even the gateway process tells you to do that. Yeah, 1677 01:25:44.960 --> 01:25:47.159 there's like there's like, yeah, there's I think even something 1678 01:25:47.159 --> 01:25:48.680 in the Golden Door. I could be wrong, but there 1679 01:25:49.000 --> 01:25:51.640 is ideas of actually like kind of what do you 1680 01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:56.279 think of the banishing? You're banishing all the energy around 1681 01:25:56.279 --> 01:25:59.000 in your area to make sure nothing it's all you. 1682 01:26:00.800 --> 01:26:04.319 Yeah, that's wild. That's crazy, man. What was so? What 1683 01:26:04.439 --> 01:26:06.960 was some of the craziest experiences you've had? 1684 01:26:07.760 --> 01:26:14.520 Uh? The one time, Yeah, what was it before or half? 1685 01:26:15.720 --> 01:26:18.640 I think it was before fun it could have been 1686 01:26:18.680 --> 01:26:21.239 before I actually had like the wild like actually crossing 1687 01:26:21.279 --> 01:26:23.520 the abyss, which that would probably take a while to cover. 1688 01:26:23.920 --> 01:26:25.359 But I mean like if you ever wanted to talk 1689 01:26:25.359 --> 01:26:27.239 about that, that might take like a half out forty 1690 01:26:27.279 --> 01:26:30.800 minutes unfortunately to give like a really good explanation, but uh, 1691 01:26:31.439 --> 01:26:35.159 or a story of it. But like one time I 1692 01:26:35.239 --> 01:26:39.119 can't remember again if it was before after that, but 1693 01:26:39.159 --> 01:26:40.319 when I knew it was like you know, the whole 1694 01:26:40.359 --> 01:26:42.399 pineal thing, like I know, it was like pressing on it. 1695 01:26:42.439 --> 01:26:44.520 Like one time I was meditating and I was pressing 1696 01:26:44.520 --> 01:26:47.600 on it. I think this was before before like a 1697 01:26:47.640 --> 01:26:50.399 wild experience I was practicing pressing on it because I 1698 01:26:50.399 --> 01:26:51.880 had noticed that. I said that it did look like 1699 01:26:51.880 --> 01:26:54.159 something would change in my eyesight with my eyes closed, 1700 01:26:55.000 --> 01:26:57.479 and uh, when I was doing it, I started noticing 1701 01:26:57.640 --> 01:27:02.119 almost like a like flashing when I have my eyes closed. 1702 01:27:02.159 --> 01:27:04.119 But it's like almost like there's something that was flashing 1703 01:27:04.199 --> 01:27:06.239 like around me that like I could see almost coming 1704 01:27:06.279 --> 01:27:07.520 into like through my eyelids. 1705 01:27:08.199 --> 01:27:09.079 And I was like, oh, what's that. 1706 01:27:09.199 --> 01:27:11.119 I'm like thinking on looking maybe an ambulance is going 1707 01:27:11.159 --> 01:27:14.720 by or something or whatever. Car nothing So that I 1708 01:27:14.760 --> 01:27:17.720 do it again. Takes me a minute to get back 1709 01:27:17.760 --> 01:27:20.119 to where I was again, and I started like pressing 1710 01:27:20.119 --> 01:27:23.920 on my paneal guy and I start seeing this flashing again, 1711 01:27:24.199 --> 01:27:25.800 and I was like, oh, what is going on? I'm 1712 01:27:25.800 --> 01:27:27.199 like the ack and it's just not even on so 1713 01:27:27.279 --> 01:27:28.760 it can't be like I at one point I was 1714 01:27:28.760 --> 01:27:32.359 thinking like the candle, but it was like it was 1715 01:27:32.359 --> 01:27:34.479 probably like six feet hour. It was a decent amount 1716 01:27:34.520 --> 01:27:36.199 of way that it's like when I closed my eyes, 1717 01:27:36.239 --> 01:27:38.359 like it would disappear. So why am I seeing like 1718 01:27:38.359 --> 01:27:40.199 a flashing. It just didn't make any sense to me 1719 01:27:40.239 --> 01:27:42.319 that it was the candle because it wasn't doing that 1720 01:27:42.359 --> 01:27:43.840 when I closed my eyes originally, you know what I'm 1721 01:27:43.840 --> 01:27:47.039 getting at. Like, so at one point, like I don't know, 1722 01:27:47.119 --> 01:27:49.640 it happened again and I started to question, like and 1723 01:27:49.680 --> 01:27:51.960 I was like, no, this is insane to think of this, 1724 01:27:52.039 --> 01:27:53.920 but like, could it literally be for me pressing on 1725 01:27:54.000 --> 01:27:57.279 my pinal gun? I was like, Nah, that can't be. 1726 01:27:57.880 --> 01:27:59.840 So I actually get up and like go over to it, 1727 01:28:00.039 --> 01:28:01.960 look down at it, and like I get myself kind 1728 01:28:01.960 --> 01:28:04.399 of into that same scenario and like try to kind 1729 01:28:04.399 --> 01:28:07.159 of have my eyes open a little bit, and I 1730 01:28:07.199 --> 01:28:12.039 saw pushing the flame moves and that actually freaked me 1731 01:28:13.039 --> 01:28:16.680 haf out, Like that's actually to me, that was like 1732 01:28:16.760 --> 01:28:20.800 kind of scary because that told me right there that 1733 01:28:20.880 --> 01:28:24.560 if that really happened, this reality isn't the way I 1734 01:28:24.560 --> 01:28:28.239 thought i'd ever was, because I should have been able 1735 01:28:28.239 --> 01:28:32.880 to do that. That like literally did freak me out. Believe. 1736 01:28:33.000 --> 01:28:34.840 I know some people are like, oh, that's sound like it, 1737 01:28:34.880 --> 01:28:37.600 but like, if that really happens, I'm sure you'd be 1738 01:28:37.720 --> 01:28:42.319 questioning like yourself and God are like what's up right? 1739 01:28:43.039 --> 01:28:46.479 Because that's not supposed to be real? Like it is 1740 01:28:46.520 --> 01:28:48.239 if you really think about it, man, it's not you know, 1741 01:28:48.239 --> 01:28:49.960 I'm even admituted it to get the ship out of me, 1742 01:28:50.079 --> 01:28:52.359 that I didn't get no kicks off, that I ain't 1743 01:28:52.399 --> 01:28:55.640 doing it to make money now because it's actually creepy. 1744 01:28:57.079 --> 01:29:01.439 Yeah, yeah, that's wild, dude, that's wild. I mean I'd 1745 01:29:01.600 --> 01:29:05.079 like to hear about your your experience with with you know, 1746 01:29:05.119 --> 01:29:06.479 with the abyss and everything like that. 1747 01:29:07.640 --> 01:29:07.760 Oh. 1748 01:29:07.840 --> 01:29:09.039 I mean I could try to go through it like 1749 01:29:09.119 --> 01:29:13.680 real quick. Yeah, you know, the visuals, the visuals we. 1750 01:29:13.720 --> 01:29:17.319 Got like thirty five minutes. Man, I'm cool, all right. 1751 01:29:17.359 --> 01:29:23.079 Uh all right the visuals again. Uh well, first off, 1752 01:29:23.279 --> 01:29:25.520 like I said, I would be in a chair. Uh 1753 01:29:25.600 --> 01:29:28.359 what I would do my meditations. I would like kind 1754 01:29:28.399 --> 01:29:31.920 of envision like the white light coming in through the top, 1755 01:29:32.720 --> 01:29:34.600 going down through my body and then through my legs 1756 01:29:34.600 --> 01:29:36.600 and into the ground common kind of almost like you know, 1757 01:29:36.680 --> 01:29:39.640 grounding myself and throughout that whole time. It's like I'll 1758 01:29:39.680 --> 01:29:41.439 try to like have my eyes closed and like try 1759 01:29:41.479 --> 01:29:44.000 to visualize the energy like going through my body and 1760 01:29:44.039 --> 01:29:46.399 like seeing it in my you know, you know, ethereal 1761 01:29:46.479 --> 01:29:49.039 body whatever they call that stuff, astra body, you know, 1762 01:29:49.840 --> 01:29:52.319 but like you believe it or it does kind of 1763 01:29:52.319 --> 01:29:54.720 I think that stuff's actually really really important it was 1764 01:29:54.760 --> 01:29:57.239 for me to have the experience that I had for me, 1765 01:29:57.359 --> 01:29:59.880 Like I could actually as I'm closing my eyes and 1766 01:30:00.039 --> 01:30:03.159 visioning like white going through like what I'm seeing as myself, 1767 01:30:03.640 --> 01:30:06.239 you will I will actually feel like warmth through something 1768 01:30:06.279 --> 01:30:08.760 moving as I'm visualizing in my brain, So there is 1769 01:30:08.800 --> 01:30:11.640 some sort of mental contact I was making to my body, 1770 01:30:14.039 --> 01:30:15.880 you know. I would do that, and then the chakras, 1771 01:30:15.920 --> 01:30:17.600 you know that whole thing too, Like I'd say i'd 1772 01:30:17.600 --> 01:30:19.680 be able to feel those. I would go up and down, 1773 01:30:20.039 --> 01:30:23.239 and then I eventually would start pressing on the pineal gland. 1774 01:30:24.399 --> 01:30:25.640 When the you know, I end up you. 1775 01:30:25.640 --> 01:30:29.880 Know, crossing the abyss. I was pressing on it and again, 1776 01:30:30.039 --> 01:30:32.359 like it would almost look like if I was like 1777 01:30:32.439 --> 01:30:35.399 looking down at a black table, but I thought it 1778 01:30:35.439 --> 01:30:39.000 was clean and like when like that and then realized 1779 01:30:39.079 --> 01:30:41.680 it was like dusty and all the dust blow out 1780 01:30:41.720 --> 01:30:43.279 and you just saw like it just looks like this 1781 01:30:43.720 --> 01:30:46.439 black like like oil coming out of the ground that 1782 01:30:46.560 --> 01:30:49.439 was like blacker than black, and it just SUTs like 1783 01:30:49.439 --> 01:30:52.239 like so like it starts getting really dark and like 1784 01:30:52.279 --> 01:30:55.319 around the edges almost kind of looks like a like 1785 01:30:55.479 --> 01:30:59.359 lasered like like thermal lights are like almost like like 1786 01:30:59.479 --> 01:31:02.039 really like almost like the rainbow colors, but like really 1787 01:31:02.159 --> 01:31:04.680 thin lights like almost like an oil slick kind of 1788 01:31:04.720 --> 01:31:08.359 coming out from the. 1789 01:31:07.279 --> 01:31:08.840 Blackness and it totally fills up. 1790 01:31:09.439 --> 01:31:10.920 You're gonna get a kick out of this because when 1791 01:31:10.920 --> 01:31:13.199 you were saying something before, I was like, Yo, this 1792 01:31:13.239 --> 01:31:16.640 is very much like my experience. As that happens, all 1793 01:31:16.640 --> 01:31:19.680 of a sudden, you'll see like a really small like 1794 01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:23.960 light pin dot light all the way in the distance, 1795 01:31:24.520 --> 01:31:27.039 looks like a burning star, like a blazing white star, 1796 01:31:27.119 --> 01:31:31.800 and the total darkness, and he saw like you kind 1797 01:31:31.800 --> 01:31:34.119 of start focusing on it almost starts like to pull 1798 01:31:34.239 --> 01:31:36.960 like closer. It gets closer and closer, and it starts 1799 01:31:36.960 --> 01:31:39.960 to actually starts to look like an eclipse. That's what 1800 01:31:40.000 --> 01:31:42.439 I have on my logo is this eclipse. I'll have 1801 01:31:42.520 --> 01:31:44.880 this just eclipse. We'll just be like sitting there just 1802 01:31:44.920 --> 01:31:50.760 like it's just amnist right there in your face, and 1803 01:31:51.159 --> 01:31:54.000 it starts to look like explosions going on around it. 1804 01:31:55.000 --> 01:31:56.920 And the reason why it looks like explosions it's really 1805 01:31:56.920 --> 01:31:59.319 hard to explain, but like even when it was a tiny, 1806 01:31:59.399 --> 01:32:02.520 tiny time any burning bright light, it still looked like 1807 01:32:02.560 --> 01:32:05.520 there was like something there was depth between what I 1808 01:32:05.600 --> 01:32:07.600 was visioning in that light to where it almost looked 1809 01:32:07.640 --> 01:32:10.880 like like outlines, like if you were to draw clouds, 1810 01:32:11.439 --> 01:32:13.399 like with a pencil just on a paper, like you 1811 01:32:13.439 --> 01:32:16.760 would throw those outlines into the black. So like if 1812 01:32:16.880 --> 01:32:20.039 any light showed up, you would see like these curvatures. 1813 01:32:20.039 --> 01:32:23.560 It's so hard to explain. It's to explain, but so 1814 01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:25.800 like as you see these like these flashing of lights 1815 01:32:25.840 --> 01:32:29.079 going around the eclipse, it starts to almost look like 1816 01:32:29.119 --> 01:32:31.560 it has texture and depth because of all these other 1817 01:32:31.680 --> 01:32:35.039 like things in it, and it almost starts to look 1818 01:32:35.079 --> 01:32:37.239 like an explosion. To me, it looks like, you know, 1819 01:32:37.439 --> 01:32:40.760 literal explosions. And then when it starts to change over 1820 01:32:40.880 --> 01:32:44.079 into like it it's almost kind of like very much 1821 01:32:44.199 --> 01:32:48.800 like yellow or slightly red or like kind of like flames. 1822 01:32:49.439 --> 01:32:55.359 Uh so I was paying attention over there, it turns 1823 01:32:55.399 --> 01:32:59.279 completely red sus almost look like roses now bursting open 1824 01:32:59.399 --> 01:33:01.039 like I have one of the logos I have looks 1825 01:33:01.079 --> 01:33:03.760 like roses, kind of like around the moon or around 1826 01:33:03.800 --> 01:33:07.479 an eclipse. It starts to look like roses bursting or 1827 01:33:07.479 --> 01:33:14.479 blooming around it. And after that happens, it starts to 1828 01:33:14.560 --> 01:33:19.840 look like colors like those very vibrant rain bl like 1829 01:33:20.560 --> 01:33:26.920 it's four different colors, red, blue, green, and purple. I 1830 01:33:26.960 --> 01:33:30.840 think it's normally what I would see coming one color 1831 01:33:30.880 --> 01:33:34.479 coming out like almost out of each cardinal direction, spinning 1832 01:33:34.680 --> 01:33:38.359 like spiraling out of the eclipse to where it almost 1833 01:33:38.359 --> 01:33:42.760 looks like this like pulsating lines of like vibrant colors, 1834 01:33:43.199 --> 01:33:46.039 and it's just like coming at me. And then all 1835 01:33:46.039 --> 01:33:47.560 of a sudden it will start to turn into like 1836 01:33:47.600 --> 01:33:52.439 geometric shapes. It's almost like shoot like flying towards me, 1837 01:33:52.800 --> 01:33:57.039 spinning coming at me from the eclipse. And then this 1838 01:33:57.119 --> 01:34:01.119 is when I get it to where my logo comes in, 1839 01:34:01.159 --> 01:34:03.600 which I had mariout from symbolic Studies designed for me. 1840 01:34:03.760 --> 01:34:07.359 Great job. Uh, it will start to look like all 1841 01:34:07.359 --> 01:34:11.359 of a sudden, these windows start coming out of the 1842 01:34:11.359 --> 01:34:16.119 eclipse on both sides of me and going like really 1843 01:34:16.279 --> 01:34:18.600 slow though. And I try to use sometimes that like 1844 01:34:18.640 --> 01:34:23.159 if you're in the subway and you had like trains 1845 01:34:23.199 --> 01:34:26.039 coming down going the same way, you're like in the 1846 01:34:26.079 --> 01:34:29.399 middle of both you know, both whatever, and you were 1847 01:34:29.399 --> 01:34:31.880 looking in those cart windows, just those cart windows. It 1848 01:34:31.880 --> 01:34:34.960 would just be like those floating by and they all 1849 01:34:34.960 --> 01:34:38.319 have like different scenes in them. It looks like different places, 1850 01:34:38.560 --> 01:34:42.039 different times, but like none of them really look too like. 1851 01:34:43.439 --> 01:34:46.920 It doesn't look like much is going on. Those will 1852 01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:51.760 start slowly coming down. At that point, I'm gonna start 1853 01:34:52.359 --> 01:34:55.119 feeling and I'll maybe go go over the physical feelings 1854 01:34:55.399 --> 01:34:58.000 after I just get through this. At that point, I 1855 01:34:58.039 --> 01:34:59.600 start going through all these physical feelings. 1856 01:35:00.520 --> 01:35:02.000 But uh. 1857 01:35:02.960 --> 01:35:07.720 Yeah, once that kind of stops, they stop going again. 1858 01:35:07.760 --> 01:35:10.319 It looks like a huge eclipse. It's like this white 1859 01:35:10.439 --> 01:35:12.680 sphere with this black one in the middle of it, 1860 01:35:12.880 --> 01:35:18.239 just glowing. It starts to separate that way, going up 1861 01:35:18.279 --> 01:35:22.399 to where it almost looks like this big grin staring 1862 01:35:22.399 --> 01:35:24.880 at you in the face. As it's starting to like 1863 01:35:24.920 --> 01:35:30.319 eclipse with like a crescent very much looks just like 1864 01:35:30.760 --> 01:35:35.000 Tooth's headdress if you're separating one sphere from the next, 1865 01:35:35.039 --> 01:35:36.960 where it looks like that crescent with the sphere on 1866 01:35:37.000 --> 01:35:40.119 top of it, if you're pulling one away from the other. 1867 01:35:40.159 --> 01:35:42.079 As soon as the black one goes and now this 1868 01:35:42.199 --> 01:35:45.680 whole time I'm pressing on my but neal glen. As 1869 01:35:45.720 --> 01:35:48.960 soon as that black sphere disappears, it feels like whatever 1870 01:35:49.000 --> 01:35:54.119 I'm pressing on me just got smacked back into my head. Bam. 1871 01:35:54.239 --> 01:35:56.239 And all of a sudden, I feel my soul right 1872 01:35:56.239 --> 01:35:59.039 out the back of my head. It feels like you 1873 01:35:59.119 --> 01:36:03.079 bust right into it, the thousand butterflies stretching out into 1874 01:36:03.119 --> 01:36:08.399 everything and totally lose your body. And I don't be 1875 01:36:08.520 --> 01:36:11.399 totally honest with you. No matter what drug anybody ever 1876 01:36:11.399 --> 01:36:13.720 has done, no matter how good of a nut you 1877 01:36:13.760 --> 01:36:16.920 think you busted, it is not gonna come anywhere close 1878 01:36:17.199 --> 01:36:19.680 to the feeling of love that you think you have 1879 01:36:19.920 --> 01:36:24.079 ever felt, even for a person. It feels like one 1880 01:36:24.159 --> 01:36:29.239 hundred percent unadulterated, perfect love. You don't even know who 1881 01:36:29.239 --> 01:36:31.079 you are anymore, but all you feel is love. You 1882 01:36:31.079 --> 01:36:32.760 don't even know where you are anymore. All you feel 1883 01:36:32.800 --> 01:36:34.800 is love. You know, I question in the damn thing 1884 01:36:34.800 --> 01:36:37.960 because everything just feels amazing. And as soon as I 1885 01:36:38.000 --> 01:36:40.840 think of self, where am I? What's going on? It's over. 1886 01:36:41.960 --> 01:36:44.039 I wasn't worried about God anymore. I was worried about me. 1887 01:36:44.520 --> 01:36:45.239 Of course, it's over. 1888 01:36:47.760 --> 01:36:48.760 What do you mean by that? 1889 01:36:49.840 --> 01:36:51.319 I do think I was in the presence of God 1890 01:36:51.960 --> 01:36:55.960 everything all at once, and instead of enjoying it, I 1891 01:36:56.000 --> 01:37:00.199 was worried about myself. Now I'm not that anymore because 1892 01:37:00.199 --> 01:37:01.840 I've just taken myself away from it. As soon as 1893 01:37:01.880 --> 01:37:05.199 I am something, I'm not something. As soon as I 1894 01:37:05.199 --> 01:37:07.439 have identity of self, I am not with the OL anymore. 1895 01:37:11.199 --> 01:37:11.880 So it's all over. 1896 01:37:13.399 --> 01:37:16.680 Wow, that's crazy, man. And so how long did this 1897 01:37:17.239 --> 01:37:18.159 experience last? 1898 01:37:18.920 --> 01:37:21.159 I mean, I could feel like minutes sometimes, but I 1899 01:37:21.840 --> 01:37:25.159 don't think it's that long in reality. I think it 1900 01:37:25.199 --> 01:37:26.399 could be like five. 1901 01:37:26.199 --> 01:37:29.079 Seconds, yeah, right, right, right right. 1902 01:37:29.159 --> 01:37:30.560 That's why I don't think, like, if you're going out, 1903 01:37:30.560 --> 01:37:34.359 I don't think it's like you should probably. I mean 1904 01:37:34.399 --> 01:37:37.079 I guess like if you if you if you walk 1905 01:37:37.199 --> 01:37:40.920 up and acted normal, people may not even notice if 1906 01:37:41.199 --> 01:37:43.560 if you did anything going into a meditation. You know 1907 01:37:43.560 --> 01:37:44.000 what I'm. 1908 01:37:43.840 --> 01:37:48.520 Saying, right right, that's crazy, bro. So when you when 1909 01:37:48.560 --> 01:37:52.960 you say pressing on the pineal, like, how would you 1910 01:37:53.000 --> 01:37:56.319 describe that too? Like how'd you explain. 1911 01:37:55.960 --> 01:37:59.000 That that's the whole thing? And I know it sounds crazy, 1912 01:37:59.000 --> 01:38:02.960 but it's like you know, and again I'm but I 1913 01:38:02.960 --> 01:38:06.199 would just assume maybe your listeners really aren't practitioners and 1914 01:38:06.279 --> 01:38:09.039 stuff like that, but people who are maybe big just 1915 01:38:09.079 --> 01:38:11.600 into chokraate work, not even well, I mean, that's all 1916 01:38:12.600 --> 01:38:14.760 that could all be considered all the same thing, I guess. 1917 01:38:15.000 --> 01:38:18.560 But you know it sounds corny, but I really do 1918 01:38:18.640 --> 01:38:21.439 think you can start feeling these things, you know what 1919 01:38:21.520 --> 01:38:23.920 I mean. I mean you even look at it. Some 1920 01:38:24.000 --> 01:38:28.319 ancient medicine goes back to by acknowledging certain spots on 1921 01:38:28.359 --> 01:38:32.000 your body that can help, you know, but I do 1922 01:38:33.039 --> 01:38:35.319 feel them. If I was, if I was to start 1923 01:38:35.359 --> 01:38:38.359 getting back and like again, like I told you, you know, 1924 01:38:38.399 --> 01:38:41.479 I don't do rituals anymore. I only meditate, you know, 1925 01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:44.000 if I was to start even getting like heavily even 1926 01:38:44.039 --> 01:38:45.920 into that. A lot of times the meditation is just 1927 01:38:45.920 --> 01:38:49.079 to clear my mind really or just you know, relax. 1928 01:38:50.239 --> 01:38:52.560 If I started doing that, like seriously, it wouldn't take 1929 01:38:52.600 --> 01:38:54.199 more than probably a few days to where I'd be 1930 01:38:54.239 --> 01:38:57.159 able to let's feel those things spin again. I really 1931 01:38:57.239 --> 01:39:00.239 do believe like I feel something. In my opinion, I 1932 01:39:00.239 --> 01:39:02.840 can feel that. I mean, I would I would even say, 1933 01:39:04.199 --> 01:39:06.279 not saying that the Oto, since the Oto believes that 1934 01:39:06.319 --> 01:39:10.359 they are of importance, should mean anything. But when I 1935 01:39:10.399 --> 01:39:13.279 was in some of their initiations, there's times where they 1936 01:39:13.319 --> 01:39:15.159 will tap certain parts of your body that you think 1937 01:39:15.359 --> 01:39:17.479 they're just neither getting your attention or just you know, 1938 01:39:17.520 --> 01:39:20.159 it's part of the whole dramatic scene. Like one time 1939 01:39:20.199 --> 01:39:21.840 they'll take a sword and I think they lift it 1940 01:39:21.920 --> 01:39:24.720 up and kind of like smack your cross like your waistline, 1941 01:39:24.800 --> 01:39:26.680 and like it kind of catches your attention because I 1942 01:39:26.680 --> 01:39:29.159 think like somebody from the side. Whatever, it caught my attention. 1943 01:39:29.199 --> 01:39:32.119 It was like, oh, okay, whatever, But it was nothing hard, 1944 01:39:33.079 --> 01:39:35.399 you know. They tell you after the fact, like sometimes 1945 01:39:35.399 --> 01:39:37.279 like after a month later, after you're do an initiation, 1946 01:39:37.319 --> 01:39:38.720 they'll have a class and then you could come in 1947 01:39:38.760 --> 01:39:40.279 and kind of talk. They'll give you a little bit 1948 01:39:40.319 --> 01:39:43.119 you know some I guess what information about what you 1949 01:39:43.199 --> 01:39:46.000 just went through. It's not much. They did bring that 1950 01:39:46.119 --> 01:39:47.920 up and they said that that was to actually activate 1951 01:39:47.920 --> 01:39:50.479 that chakra right then, So now you tell me every 1952 01:39:50.520 --> 01:39:52.680 time you've always like because it's been done a couple 1953 01:39:52.720 --> 01:39:54.720 of times in different ways, you you know, hit me 1954 01:39:54.760 --> 01:39:56.479 in a certain you know, is that is that what 1955 01:39:56.520 --> 01:39:58.359 it is all about? Now? And like why are you 1956 01:39:58.399 --> 01:40:02.960 doing that? Yeah? Yeah, yeah, you have to be totally 1957 01:40:02.960 --> 01:40:06.640 honest with you. In manerval, they tell you that initiation, 1958 01:40:06.800 --> 01:40:11.000 don't trust, don't trust everything that you're seeing. And the 1959 01:40:11.039 --> 01:40:14.199 first initiation they'll tell you again don't not everything as 1960 01:40:14.279 --> 01:40:16.880 is as it seems. And then in the second initiation, 1961 01:40:16.920 --> 01:40:18.720 they're gonna tell you not everything is it seems, and 1962 01:40:18.760 --> 01:40:21.560 don't trust your brothers and sisters. So like the first 1963 01:40:21.640 --> 01:40:24.039 three degrees, you've already told me, don't believe the bullshit. 1964 01:40:26.520 --> 01:40:30.800 Yeah, why do you think they kind of say that open? 1965 01:40:30.960 --> 01:40:33.640 I don't know, maybe like thinking that maybe some person 1966 01:40:33.680 --> 01:40:34.720 will actually save themselves. 1967 01:40:34.760 --> 01:40:36.720 They'll listen to weapons coming out of them house. 1968 01:40:37.239 --> 01:40:39.800 Oh shoot, okay, can I see that? I see that. 1969 01:40:41.119 --> 01:40:43.119 I actually think of my well, see, I don't think 1970 01:40:43.199 --> 01:40:46.479 that's I guess I could have been inherent on purpose 1971 01:40:46.520 --> 01:40:49.560 for Crowley, But I don't know how the order is. 1972 01:40:50.079 --> 01:40:53.319 You know, I have wandered from inception. But like I 1973 01:40:53.359 --> 01:40:55.119 do think some of these orders now if they weren't 1974 01:40:55.119 --> 01:40:57.439 from the beginning, I think they are run by the CIA. 1975 01:40:57.560 --> 01:41:01.960 Now that's uh. I mean, I wouldn't doubt that for 1976 01:41:01.960 --> 01:41:03.680 a second, right, because. 1977 01:41:03.600 --> 01:41:07.199 There's some that I saw pointing fingers because someone was 1978 01:41:07.359 --> 01:41:10.720 again attacked by other occult is here, because that does happen. 1979 01:41:12.600 --> 01:41:14.479 There's a certain order that I think the CIA is 1980 01:41:14.520 --> 01:41:18.159 running or the military is running it, because it's they 1981 01:41:18.199 --> 01:41:21.159 have so many different innrotors, and they have very intelligent 1982 01:41:21.159 --> 01:41:23.479 people that are in there, people with PhDs. They're not 1983 01:41:23.520 --> 01:41:26.319 stupid people actually, and they all have them working that 1984 01:41:26.399 --> 01:41:28.760 a lot of them are in different these different inner 1985 01:41:28.800 --> 01:41:33.039 rotors that are inside the temple fuck that is inside 1986 01:41:33.079 --> 01:41:36.640 his inner rotor, I mean inside of the secret secret society. 1987 01:41:37.000 --> 01:41:41.000 And uh, if you look at what they're doing, it's 1988 01:41:41.000 --> 01:41:44.239 almost like everybody's been decomparted tomental life whatever that word is. 1989 01:41:44.239 --> 01:41:47.039 Everybody's been separated, and you're all kind of like looking 1990 01:41:47.039 --> 01:41:49.479 at your own like they just own little specific thing, 1991 01:41:49.560 --> 01:41:52.760 and it's like they don't realize the big picture because 1992 01:41:52.800 --> 01:41:55.319 they're all being kind of taken off and put in 1993 01:41:55.399 --> 01:41:57.279 like a small little fucking box. 1994 01:41:57.720 --> 01:41:59.960 Yeah, we'll move you over here, We'll put blinders on you. 1995 01:42:00.119 --> 01:42:02.520 Yes, yes, exactly, yeah, yeah, And they don't realize that. 1996 01:42:02.560 --> 01:42:06.279 I think they're actually being used for the government or 1997 01:42:06.319 --> 01:42:07.439 the CIA to actually know. 1998 01:42:07.479 --> 01:42:10.560 What's so much funny too, is science is really broken 1999 01:42:10.600 --> 01:42:13.319 down in the same way. Medicine today is broken down 2000 01:42:13.319 --> 01:42:14.800 in the same way you want it. You got a 2001 01:42:14.840 --> 01:42:17.560 heart problem, you go see a cardiologist. But the cardiologists 2002 01:42:17.560 --> 01:42:21.039 only study and transfer information within each other. They don't 2003 01:42:21.079 --> 01:42:24.119 mess around with you know, uh, the on you know, 2004 01:42:24.319 --> 01:42:27.119 the kidney you know doctors, they don't mess around with 2005 01:42:27.239 --> 01:42:29.800 the lung doctors, they don't mess up. They stay within 2006 01:42:29.880 --> 01:42:32.880 their field of practice. And then like that's it. But 2007 01:42:33.199 --> 01:42:36.920 if they were to you know, exchange information, that would 2008 01:42:36.960 --> 01:42:41.119 be in a way better for us, if you get 2009 01:42:41.119 --> 01:42:44.319 what I'm saying on the medical side of things. But 2010 01:42:45.359 --> 01:42:50.319 you mentioned schools and secret societies. Uh, what are some 2011 01:42:50.399 --> 01:42:55.680 of the big colleges that seem to be you know, 2012 01:42:55.840 --> 01:42:57.119 pretty heavy in the occult. 2013 01:42:57.760 --> 01:42:57.960 I know. 2014 01:42:58.039 --> 01:43:01.800 I saw on your page that you you you must 2015 01:43:01.840 --> 01:43:05.880 have a drone or something. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah 2016 01:43:06.039 --> 01:43:07.560 you could if you could break that down for me, 2017 01:43:07.640 --> 01:43:10.239 like what schools are involved with all with all this 2018 01:43:10.319 --> 01:43:10.920 kind of stuff? 2019 01:43:11.039 --> 01:43:12.199 Oh oh definitely. 2020 01:43:12.319 --> 01:43:16.399 Yell Oh my god, Why am I having problems now? 2021 01:43:17.640 --> 01:43:18.880 Is that where Skull and Bones is? 2022 01:43:18.960 --> 01:43:20.640 Oh yeah, yo, that has like that. I think they 2023 01:43:20.720 --> 01:43:23.119 have over They might have a dozen of more, believe 2024 01:43:23.119 --> 01:43:25.600 it or not. I probably have went there and filmed 2025 01:43:25.640 --> 01:43:28.800 at least like seven or eight myself. I still haven't 2026 01:43:28.800 --> 01:43:31.279 put out. Yeah, I have probably like three episodes of 2027 01:43:31.319 --> 01:43:34.199 like yell at the at the graveyard out there that 2028 01:43:34.239 --> 01:43:37.039 I could show. Yeah, there was stuff that I got 2029 01:43:37.039 --> 01:43:40.439 with the drone that like, you know, an obelisk and 2030 01:43:40.479 --> 01:43:44.000 like basically like was a pole whatever. It was like 2031 01:43:44.039 --> 01:43:47.920 this geometric stuff on the ground that is that's very interesting. 2032 01:43:47.920 --> 01:43:49.319 I think that might have used to have been an 2033 01:43:49.359 --> 01:43:50.600 obelisk in that spot. 2034 01:43:52.039 --> 01:43:52.319 That's what. 2035 01:43:52.359 --> 01:43:58.159 It was interesting enough. And I know people like to 2036 01:43:58.359 --> 01:44:00.279 like a lot of times, people like to go with 2037 01:44:00.319 --> 01:44:06.119 the whole it's a penis. But my theory, my first 2038 01:44:06.199 --> 01:44:09.359 hearder here eventually in the future where you're gonna find 2039 01:44:09.359 --> 01:44:12.039 out those things are being used because if you look 2040 01:44:12.159 --> 01:44:16.680 down sometimes when I have my drone, the work that 2041 01:44:16.720 --> 01:44:20.199 you see on the floor, to me, it looks like 2042 01:44:20.239 --> 01:44:24.960 a power grid. Those things have something to do with 2043 01:44:25.079 --> 01:44:25.600 free energy. 2044 01:44:27.720 --> 01:44:29.720 I wouldn't doubt it. I mean, you look at streets 2045 01:44:29.760 --> 01:44:31.920 and cities today and you look at a microchip and 2046 01:44:31.960 --> 01:44:36.239 you're like, dude, it looks it looks the same. It 2047 01:44:36.279 --> 01:44:39.560 looks so you know, geometrically it looks similar, right or 2048 01:44:39.640 --> 01:44:41.800 you know, I don't know the name for it for streets. 2049 01:44:41.800 --> 01:44:43.760 But one thing I do want to say, and I'm 2050 01:44:43.760 --> 01:44:49.359 not trying to promote, uh, I'll just say it this way. 2051 01:44:50.479 --> 01:44:54.479 Crowley was really good at this. You sexualize something, nobody 2052 01:44:54.520 --> 01:44:55.199 will look at it. 2053 01:44:58.439 --> 01:44:59.239 That's a good point. 2054 01:44:59.520 --> 01:45:03.000 And that's it's like everybody should. But if you sexualize something, 2055 01:45:03.520 --> 01:45:07.520 most people will never take any There's nothing in there. 2056 01:45:07.880 --> 01:45:10.319 It's all just perversion. Hmmm. 2057 01:45:10.960 --> 01:45:14.000 That's a good point. He is, like, that's a good point. 2058 01:45:14.199 --> 01:45:15.640 That's a good way to bury certain things. 2059 01:45:15.720 --> 01:45:18.760 Yes, like dares and and I say, I don't think 2060 01:45:18.760 --> 01:45:20.039 he was the only one to do it. But like, 2061 01:45:20.079 --> 01:45:22.079 even if you look at the history in certain areas, 2062 01:45:22.479 --> 01:45:24.479 you are actually it was easier to talk about like 2063 01:45:24.520 --> 01:45:27.560 screwed up ship and publish it than it was actually 2064 01:45:27.640 --> 01:45:29.359 to talk about other things. 2065 01:45:30.239 --> 01:45:32.880 Oh way, jeez, well what's crazy too? I mean when you. 2066 01:45:32.840 --> 01:45:35.359 Were like like you like you could write about smut, 2067 01:45:35.359 --> 01:45:37.760 but like you probably couldn't talk about actuals like certain 2068 01:45:38.159 --> 01:45:38.800 occult ship. 2069 01:45:41.039 --> 01:45:43.840 Right. And so what was it at Yale you did 2070 01:45:43.880 --> 01:45:44.479 with your drum? 2071 01:45:44.960 --> 01:45:50.960 Yeah? Yeah, oh god, you it almost looked like that, Yes, 2072 01:45:51.039 --> 01:45:53.760 it's but it's not. Yeah, it looked it looked like 2073 01:45:53.800 --> 01:45:56.319 the uniicversal hexagram, but there was a part in there 2074 01:45:56.319 --> 01:45:57.479 where it's completely off. 2075 01:45:59.119 --> 01:46:01.399 What's the name of that, do you remember? 2076 01:46:01.720 --> 01:46:02.920 It might have been the New Haven Green? 2077 01:46:08.640 --> 01:46:09.880 Yeah, this is interesting. 2078 01:46:10.680 --> 01:46:12.960 Yeah, it looks extremely close to it, but if you 2079 01:46:12.960 --> 01:46:14.800 look at the middle you can tell it's wolf. 2080 01:46:15.439 --> 01:46:17.800 Oh yeah, your footage is so much better than all 2081 01:46:17.800 --> 01:46:21.319 these pictures because you actually got the aerial of it. 2082 01:46:21.760 --> 01:46:27.560 But I'll show some pictures here. So you've got this one. 2083 01:46:29.239 --> 01:46:33.840 If you were down, this would be like the top 2084 01:46:33.880 --> 01:46:37.960 area or vice versa or whatever. Maybe it looks like 2085 01:46:38.000 --> 01:46:43.479 there's a It just looked kind of crazy. Here's another 2086 01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:49.279 picture this this kind of shape here, all these geometric lines. 2087 01:46:49.680 --> 01:46:51.279 You think this is something Crawley saw. 2088 01:46:55.439 --> 01:46:59.640 Uh No, actually that simbil. 2089 01:47:00.920 --> 01:47:03.960 Uh I mean I could look it up. This is 2090 01:47:04.000 --> 01:47:06.840 the that symbol he did not make up. He actually 2091 01:47:06.880 --> 01:47:07.880 took that from somebody else. 2092 01:47:09.119 --> 01:47:11.079 Who do you so, who do you take this from? Just? 2093 01:47:11.239 --> 01:47:11.399 Hell? 2094 01:47:11.479 --> 01:47:15.600 Look it up? Unicersal hexagram actually, and so what a 2095 01:47:15.920 --> 01:47:19.920 what is it called a unicrstal hexagram? And this is 2096 01:47:19.920 --> 01:47:22.159 where you could draw a hexagram with. 2097 01:47:23.159 --> 01:47:24.520 That one in one motion. 2098 01:47:24.880 --> 01:47:27.479 Yeah, you never have to lift your hand up. 2099 01:47:31.039 --> 01:47:31.279 Hmm. 2100 01:47:32.760 --> 01:47:33.199 Okyeah. 2101 01:47:33.279 --> 01:47:36.720 It originally shows up. Well, they're saying, oh no, it's 2102 01:47:36.720 --> 01:47:44.239 brought up in this sixteen thirty nine hexagrama mysticum which whoa? Actually, 2103 01:47:44.279 --> 01:47:46.039 if you look at that, yo, you should go to 2104 01:47:46.079 --> 01:47:49.359 this page the unicessal hexagram that actually looks like what's 2105 01:47:49.399 --> 01:47:56.560 on the grounds the hexagram the hexagram hexagram, Yeah, unicersal hexagram. 2106 01:47:56.600 --> 01:47:58.439 If you go on the Wikipedia one and look at 2107 01:47:58.479 --> 01:48:01.560 the link for the for that hexagramma mysticum and just 2108 01:48:01.600 --> 01:48:04.319 put your hand like hover over it, and it shows 2109 01:48:04.359 --> 01:48:06.279 you the preview. What's the next page. If you were 2110 01:48:06.279 --> 01:48:09.119 to click on it, you'll see that you'll see the 2111 01:48:09.159 --> 01:48:10.399 same symbol come up. 2112 01:48:10.800 --> 01:48:12.840 Oh my goodness, so you see are you seeing it 2113 01:48:12.880 --> 01:48:13.119 with me? 2114 01:48:13.439 --> 01:48:13.720 Is it? 2115 01:48:13.800 --> 01:48:14.640 Where is it? Right here? 2116 01:48:15.000 --> 01:48:16.840 Oh? Hold on, hold on, let me switch over, let 2117 01:48:16.880 --> 01:48:20.720 me switch over. Yeah, over on that hexagramma mysticum right 2118 01:48:20.800 --> 01:48:32.319 up there. Yeah yeah, see oh dug, yeah. 2119 01:48:30.000 --> 01:48:32.039 Look at all. Look at the Look at the geometry here. 2120 01:48:33.800 --> 01:48:38.239 This almost looks like almost like that that sigil, that 2121 01:48:38.319 --> 01:48:41.239 Lucifer's sigil. Maybe I don't know, I mean, who knows, 2122 01:48:41.359 --> 01:48:48.199 but so let me hover over that again. Okay, I 2123 01:48:48.239 --> 01:48:56.439 see that past scals there. Okay, this is wild stuff. 2124 01:48:57.319 --> 01:49:00.880 Berto supposedly in fifteen eighty two, so like we Crowley used. 2125 01:49:00.760 --> 01:49:04.239 It, it was already out. Here's another thing with him again 2126 01:49:04.319 --> 01:49:06.720 that people. 2127 01:49:06.800 --> 01:49:08.359 I'm gonna be totally honest with you people. 2128 01:49:08.199 --> 01:49:10.520 I think give him too much credit. There's really not 2129 01:49:10.960 --> 01:49:13.800 He didn't write all the rituals people think he wrote. 2130 01:49:14.800 --> 01:49:17.479 There's only you know, a few handsful that he actually did. 2131 01:49:17.560 --> 01:49:20.279 Like he didn't come up with a universal asagram, you 2132 01:49:20.279 --> 01:49:23.119 know what I'm saying. Like he was he was a 2133 01:49:23.159 --> 01:49:26.680 myster synthesis and stealing other people's work. I mean even 2134 01:49:26.720 --> 01:49:29.640 his line in the Serpent, I mean, that's that's taken 2135 01:49:29.720 --> 01:49:35.039 from like the line of Judas Gotcha. I mean it 2136 01:49:35.119 --> 01:49:37.600 was just other things a praxis or whatever. Like, there's 2137 01:49:37.640 --> 01:49:40.680 just so many different things that like he just squeezes. 2138 01:49:41.319 --> 01:49:43.880 In my opinion, we used a lot of people's stuff. 2139 01:49:45.119 --> 01:49:50.319 M So, I know you mentioned you mentioned or I mentioned, 2140 01:49:50.439 --> 01:49:54.640 uh Liver King right with the he went viral with 2141 01:49:54.800 --> 01:49:56.399 the eye blown and everything. I know, this kind of 2142 01:49:56.399 --> 01:49:59.920 circles back to your experience and why you think he's doing. 2143 01:50:00.399 --> 01:50:02.479 You think all these celebrities are kind of doing uh 2144 01:50:02.920 --> 01:50:06.119 either that or yeah, either that or it's like they're 2145 01:50:07.279 --> 01:50:10.399 in the family or in the club. You know. But 2146 01:50:10.520 --> 01:50:13.920 in my opinion, it's gonna sound silly probably to some people. 2147 01:50:14.000 --> 01:50:16.439 But I do think, like, honestly, probably about seventy percent 2148 01:50:16.520 --> 01:50:18.800 of like famous people would probably will do to this. 2149 01:50:20.680 --> 01:50:22.520 I think some of them might even be that's why 2150 01:50:22.560 --> 01:50:24.239 they're so good at what they do, so good at 2151 01:50:24.239 --> 01:50:28.239 their instruments, so good at that truth is because they're 2152 01:50:28.239 --> 01:50:32.079 having the experiences I'm explaining, and they're putting whatever they 2153 01:50:32.079 --> 01:50:32.800 got into. 2154 01:50:32.600 --> 01:50:39.439 That, right, right, that's crazy, man. Oh dude, jeez. Man, Well, Nick, 2155 01:50:39.479 --> 01:50:42.239 we're at a We're at an hour and fifty five minutes. Man, 2156 01:50:42.319 --> 01:50:45.000 It's it's it's been an awesome time. We put in 2157 01:50:45.079 --> 01:50:45.760 some work, dude. 2158 01:50:45.880 --> 01:50:46.039 Yeah. 2159 01:50:46.439 --> 01:50:48.560 It was our first episode together and I'm sure we'll 2160 01:50:48.560 --> 01:50:52.079 have many more. Sure, And I really had a good time. 2161 01:50:52.119 --> 01:50:55.760 And it was and and again this is something a 2162 01:50:55.760 --> 01:50:59.239 little different that that we've been usually, you know, as 2163 01:50:59.279 --> 01:51:02.039 far as guests and stuff. And but you know what, 2164 01:51:02.479 --> 01:51:05.079 as a Christian, as a man of God and as 2165 01:51:05.119 --> 01:51:07.399 someone with you know, at least my belief system, it's 2166 01:51:07.800 --> 01:51:12.159 it's really important to have many different kinds of people 2167 01:51:12.239 --> 01:51:15.000 on this show. It's it's meant to build relationships and 2168 01:51:15.000 --> 01:51:18.000 build friendships with others that are a part of the 2169 01:51:18.039 --> 01:51:21.840 podcast community. Man. And because we all know a little 2170 01:51:21.840 --> 01:51:23.800 about a lot, and we all have so much that 2171 01:51:23.840 --> 01:51:26.119 we could really trade with each other. We have so 2172 01:51:26.239 --> 01:51:28.159 much that we could pass to each other as far 2173 01:51:28.199 --> 01:51:31.760 as different little golden nuggets of knowledge and all this 2174 01:51:31.880 --> 01:51:35.680 kind of stuff, man, And this conversation was a deep 2175 01:51:35.720 --> 01:51:36.199 one for me. 2176 01:51:36.399 --> 01:51:38.239 Yea was just great chat for real. 2177 01:51:38.840 --> 01:51:42.920 Yeah. Yeah, I appreciate you, bro, and you know, I 2178 01:51:44.039 --> 01:51:47.640 hope everything for you, you know, just blessings for you, man, 2179 01:51:47.680 --> 01:51:51.239 I hope blessings for you, and real quick for the 2180 01:51:51.239 --> 01:51:54.399 audience if you wouldn't mind just plug in your information 2181 01:51:54.439 --> 01:51:56.359 where they can check out your stuff and channels and 2182 01:51:56.399 --> 01:51:57.600 where they can support you the most. 2183 01:51:58.039 --> 01:52:00.720 H Yeah. The Occult rejects that it is on all 2184 01:52:00.840 --> 01:52:05.960 major podcasts. Uh so I'm bitchoot Rumble, uh YouTube and 2185 01:52:06.119 --> 01:52:10.119 uh yeah, bitch Rumble on YouTube. Yeah we got Facebook 2186 01:52:10.119 --> 01:52:12.159 as well, Twitter, Instagram, but uh yeah, if you want 2187 01:52:12.159 --> 01:52:15.880 to catch the videos, I suggest YouTube, but they maybe 2188 01:52:15.960 --> 01:52:18.439 you know, I won't sense it myself, so there could 2189 01:52:18.439 --> 01:52:21.319 be extra stuff on Rumble or definitely extra stuff on audio. 2190 01:52:21.720 --> 01:52:24.079 So because the audio really doesn't sensor me with spreaker, 2191 01:52:25.159 --> 01:52:26.920 So yeah, check check that out. 2192 01:52:27.039 --> 01:52:29.520 Yeah yeah, I'm glad that that's kind of like a 2193 01:52:29.520 --> 01:52:32.079 little perk for folks that check us out on audio. 2194 01:52:32.199 --> 01:52:36.880 Everything is kind of it's nice. Freedom is nice. 2195 01:52:37.800 --> 01:52:40.239 One time, actually, I will say one time, and this 2196 01:52:40.399 --> 01:52:42.439 is how they get you. There's a little bit of 2197 01:52:42.439 --> 01:52:45.479 thinking to leave. We'll leave with your listeners. Sometimes some 2198 01:52:45.520 --> 01:52:48.560 of the stuff like again, like with these initiations, that 2199 01:52:48.640 --> 01:52:52.479 stuff could actually be copyrighted, so when you start repeating it, 2200 01:52:52.680 --> 01:52:55.479 they can actually hit you with the copyright strike. And 2201 01:52:55.520 --> 01:52:58.359 when I covered like the first three initiations on my podcast, 2202 01:52:59.239 --> 01:53:02.640 I actually got it with like an email every single 2203 01:53:02.640 --> 01:53:04.520 and it was happening within like two or three days. 2204 01:53:05.319 --> 01:53:11.479 Bit Shoot Rumble YouTube and Spreaker well took it down 2205 01:53:12.199 --> 01:53:14.760 because a lawyer, it was crazy, was a girl I 2206 01:53:14.880 --> 01:53:17.039 even knew, and went to the lodge that I was in. 2207 01:53:17.800 --> 01:53:19.680 She was one of the lawyers for the OTO and 2208 01:53:19.800 --> 01:53:22.920 hit me with a DMCA saying that this is copyrighted 2209 01:53:22.920 --> 01:53:26.000 and it has to come down. So even their initiations 2210 01:53:26.119 --> 01:53:28.800 technically a copyrighted somewhere in a book. 2211 01:53:30.039 --> 01:53:35.600 That's crazy. Yes, Wow, that's crazy, man, dude. It's so funny. 2212 01:53:35.600 --> 01:53:38.960 How you know you just mentioned a normal person that 2213 01:53:39.000 --> 01:53:41.720 works for Spreaker. It seems like right, or they're a 2214 01:53:41.800 --> 01:53:43.039 lawyer or somewhere right. 2215 01:53:43.159 --> 01:53:45.000 Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. They were away for the Oto 2216 01:53:45.119 --> 01:53:47.079 and yeah, they said they send a letter to Spreaker, 2217 01:53:47.079 --> 01:53:50.039 and they actually took it down. Yeah, rumbled bit shoot 2218 01:53:50.159 --> 01:53:53.600 they they supposedly your free speech, they took it down. 2219 01:53:53.640 --> 01:53:54.079 No line. 2220 01:53:55.079 --> 01:53:57.840 It's it's funny because what you're what you're saying makes 2221 01:53:57.880 --> 01:54:03.760 me think of in the movie Blaze, right, Blade obviously 2222 01:54:03.800 --> 01:54:07.520 you've got Blade, right, he's the he's the vampire killer dude, right, 2223 01:54:07.520 --> 01:54:11.880 but he's like hybrid. And then you have the vampires, 2224 01:54:12.800 --> 01:54:14.920 which I'm making a connection with like the ot O 2225 01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:18.159 s right, or these secret societies, and then they have 2226 01:54:18.279 --> 01:54:23.520 these familiars who kind of work for them. 2227 01:54:25.640 --> 01:54:27.439 It's like the ones that like, go on, you baby, 2228 01:54:27.479 --> 01:54:28.199 what are your boys? 2229 01:54:28.880 --> 01:54:33.640 You're right right right? But golly man, well, hey man, 2230 01:54:33.840 --> 01:54:35.560 I appreciate you. This was a fun episode. 2231 01:54:35.560 --> 01:54:36.920 I enjoyed it a lot, and. 2232 01:54:38.560 --> 01:54:40.199 I hope my audience did as well too. 2233 01:54:40.479 --> 01:54:42.439 And looking forward to get you guys. 2234 01:54:42.960 --> 01:54:44.600 Yeah, yeah, dude, it's gonna be a lot of fun. 2235 01:54:44.920 --> 01:54:48.039 I'm gonna work out definitely a bunch of Yeah, I'm 2236 01:54:48.039 --> 01:54:50.039 gonna work up a bunch of my research for it, man, 2237 01:54:50.079 --> 01:54:51.960 because it's it's some of it's kind of mind blowing. 2238 01:54:52.000 --> 01:54:53.640 Some of it it's kind of like dark, but I 2239 01:54:53.720 --> 01:54:55.279 kind of try to wrap it up with a nice 2240 01:54:55.359 --> 01:54:58.680 positive message at the end, because you know, I am 2241 01:54:58.680 --> 01:55:01.640 a man of freedom, and I, like, you know, I 2242 01:55:01.720 --> 01:55:05.439 just want us to be humans, man. I want us 2243 01:55:05.439 --> 01:55:10.119 to live and have a wonderful experience here on this planet. 2244 01:55:10.119 --> 01:55:11.680 You know what I'm saying. But it just seems like 2245 01:55:12.560 --> 01:55:15.720 there's just a lot of totalitarian, technocratic stuff that's going 2246 01:55:15.760 --> 01:55:18.520 on and just getting out of hand, and if we 2247 01:55:18.560 --> 01:55:22.119 could expose it as much as we can, then you know, 2248 01:55:22.279 --> 01:55:24.920 people will be able to hopefully one day, you know, 2249 01:55:25.199 --> 01:55:29.079 stand up against the machine. So but Nick, thank you 2250 01:55:29.159 --> 01:55:32.199 so much, man, I appreciate you, and I'm going to 2251 01:55:32.239 --> 01:55:33.800 move right over into the next segment.