WEBVTT 1 00:00:13.240 --> 00:00:16.960 You are listening to Video Games to the Max. Hello, 2 00:00:17.120 --> 00:00:19.920 and welcome to another edition of Video Games to the 3 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:22.920 Maxes Episode four hundred and fifteen. I'm your host, Sean 4 00:00:23.000 --> 00:00:25.760 Garmer here with me as you was so, mister Mark Morrison, 5 00:00:27.280 --> 00:00:30.760 And well, if you didn't know, I'm sure I'm sure 6 00:00:30.839 --> 00:00:33.920 everybody knows by now. The PS five Pro is actually 7 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:38.399 a thing, and it's reel. They revealed it along with 8 00:00:38.479 --> 00:00:43.640 its incredible price of seven hundred dollars and even more 9 00:00:44.399 --> 00:00:48.000 increase in price in other regions. We'll talk about that. 10 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:51.320 Is it worth it? Is it worth what they got 11 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:56.640 in the box. We've also both finished Astrobot Matt Marcus 12 00:00:56.679 --> 00:01:00.960 Platten the game, so got plenty to say now that 13 00:01:00.960 --> 00:01:03.200 we're both done with it, or well, I've still got 14 00:01:03.280 --> 00:01:05.760 some things to pick up. I'm pretty much done with 15 00:01:05.799 --> 00:01:08.000 it now. Mark has already done a review. Actually I 16 00:01:08.040 --> 00:01:13.879 still got to write mine. So there's that. We got 17 00:01:13.920 --> 00:01:16.640 some some other things, some surprising things like and Apurna 18 00:01:16.719 --> 00:01:21.120 Interactive's whole gaming division just decide to re just quit 19 00:01:21.280 --> 00:01:24.680 all of a sudden off over some issues. We'll get 20 00:01:24.719 --> 00:01:28.239 into that. We got some issue with Xbox laying off 21 00:01:28.319 --> 00:01:32.879 more people, and also some now we know what game 22 00:01:32.920 --> 00:01:36.359 pass standard actually is. 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So enough with the the housekeeping here, 53 00:03:23.400 --> 00:03:25.759 I guess let's let's go and we talked about astrobout 54 00:03:25.840 --> 00:03:31.639 last week. Let's start with the big news here. PS 55 00:03:31.680 --> 00:03:34.319 five Pro was basically revealed the next day after we 56 00:03:34.360 --> 00:03:36.280 did the podcast last week, so it was kind of 57 00:03:36.280 --> 00:03:38.800 like we did the predictions. I think I said it 58 00:03:38.840 --> 00:03:41.319 would wind up being what everybody predicted, which is the 59 00:03:41.319 --> 00:03:46.280 six ninety nine, and it was what do you think 60 00:03:46.319 --> 00:03:49.199 about the nine minute presentation that they had Mark Sony Show, 61 00:03:49.240 --> 00:03:51.719 which he started off by saying basically what the PS 62 00:03:51.759 --> 00:03:55.000 five is. Then he kind of went into what the 63 00:03:55.240 --> 00:03:57.520 big three he called it that they added with the 64 00:03:57.520 --> 00:04:00.840 PS five Pro which is bigger GP you, which makes 65 00:04:00.879 --> 00:04:03.560 it to where it can render games forty five percent faster. 66 00:04:04.919 --> 00:04:08.479 Obviously that would mean that loading is faster all of that. Uh, 67 00:04:08.560 --> 00:04:12.840 there's the the pss pss R that we heard so 68 00:04:12.919 --> 00:04:18.839 much about several times. That's basically PlayStations proprietary AI upscaling 69 00:04:19.000 --> 00:04:22.240 very much like the Nvidia version of that or and 70 00:04:22.439 --> 00:04:26.680 d FSR version of that, but possibly even better. And 71 00:04:27.040 --> 00:04:31.360 you also have the the game boost that's being at 72 00:04:31.399 --> 00:04:34.319 it with that, which it's not exactly like the Xbox thing, 73 00:04:36.120 --> 00:04:37.040 but it's similar. 74 00:04:37.199 --> 00:04:39.279 I guess it's like the old it's like the old 75 00:04:39.319 --> 00:04:40.319 PS four pro thing. 76 00:04:40.720 --> 00:04:43.079 Yeah, okay, so more for the so where it can 77 00:04:43.160 --> 00:04:46.160 add stabilized frame rate or improve the frame rate if 78 00:04:46.160 --> 00:04:48.439 it's unlocked, I think though, but they have to unlock it, 79 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:53.240 so like I guess Bloodburne winds stop being thirty fps. 80 00:04:52.800 --> 00:04:56.399 Yeah, because the rates tied to the physics. 81 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:59.319 Yeah, the frame rates tied to the actual game. So 82 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:03.680 like they can it unless you know, from Soft goes 83 00:05:03.720 --> 00:05:06.480 in there and and changes it or unlocks it or 84 00:05:06.680 --> 00:05:11.720 was they probably won't, but uh, you know that's uh, 85 00:05:11.879 --> 00:05:14.600 that's part of it. They and he also thought about 86 00:05:14.639 --> 00:05:16.639 advanced ray racing as well, which is going to make 87 00:05:16.639 --> 00:05:19.560 it to where it doubles or triples the speed of 88 00:05:20.079 --> 00:05:24.000 the ray tracing in the console. Uh. They also showed 89 00:05:24.000 --> 00:05:27.959 off a bunch of games, which included and Rebirth. Last 90 00:05:27.959 --> 00:05:32.000 of Us Part two kept being showing the remake Ratchet 91 00:05:32.040 --> 00:05:34.720 and Clank, but used a lot for that. Spider Man. 92 00:05:36.160 --> 00:05:40.720 Got used when finally ugly Rebirth game. Huh. 93 00:05:40.800 --> 00:05:44.720 Yeah. That and they also had I think c net 94 00:05:44.759 --> 00:05:46.480 was the only one that had somebody go out and 95 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:48.160 actually be able to test it. They have like a 96 00:05:48.199 --> 00:05:50.920 six minute video on their channel where the guy talks 97 00:05:50.959 --> 00:05:54.720 about it and he does mention that and Rebirth is 98 00:05:54.720 --> 00:05:56.759 actually like the one game. It's kind of like night 99 00:05:56.800 --> 00:06:00.120 and day difference, mainly because Perman's mom was so bad 100 00:06:00.160 --> 00:06:02.839 with that game that like having a stable frame right 101 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:06.000 now at sixty fps body makes that game tremendously better 102 00:06:06.040 --> 00:06:10.079 if you played it on performance move. But of course 103 00:06:10.120 --> 00:06:11.800 at the end, they kind of just show a bunch 104 00:06:11.839 --> 00:06:15.079 of stuff. They're really quick showing all the games. I 105 00:06:15.120 --> 00:06:17.319 think there's like twenty games or something like that that's 106 00:06:17.360 --> 00:06:19.759 going to be like pre launched, and they have a 107 00:06:19.800 --> 00:06:22.639 list we'll go through it of what's going to be 108 00:06:22.879 --> 00:06:27.079 getting the all the PSI pro treatment. And then they 109 00:06:27.079 --> 00:06:29.079 showed the price right, which is kind of like they did, 110 00:06:29.199 --> 00:06:31.600 almost like in a silence because they know everybody felt 111 00:06:31.639 --> 00:06:34.399 like they know that everybody's going to be shocked about 112 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:39.240 this seven hundred dollars US and in the UK eight 113 00:06:39.439 --> 00:06:44.279 hundred for euros and then twelve thousand and two h 114 00:06:44.439 --> 00:06:46.240 for Japan in the end obviously. 115 00:06:45.879 --> 00:06:48.399 The end, yeah, is bad. 116 00:06:48.600 --> 00:06:53.959 So I think Australia also has about that price as well. 117 00:06:55.839 --> 00:07:01.439 So and then they revealed later off camera that you 118 00:07:01.519 --> 00:07:03.720 have to pay eighty bucks extra for the disk drive 119 00:07:03.800 --> 00:07:06.920 if you want a disc drive in your PS five 120 00:07:06.959 --> 00:07:09.240 Pro because this doesn't come with it disc and if 121 00:07:09.279 --> 00:07:11.360 you want go ahead, sorry. 122 00:07:11.240 --> 00:07:11.800 No you go. 123 00:07:12.839 --> 00:07:15.160 And if I don't know if this means they don't 124 00:07:15.160 --> 00:07:17.319 have a stand at all, because they did have this 125 00:07:17.360 --> 00:07:19.160 little plastic stand which is what I used to my 126 00:07:19.240 --> 00:07:22.439 PS five right now because mine's behind my TV. I 127 00:07:22.439 --> 00:07:25.240 cannot have it laying down. If you have to buy 128 00:07:25.240 --> 00:07:29.639 a vertical sand it costs thirty dollars extra. So what 129 00:07:29.680 --> 00:07:32.560 do you think about all the stuff the whole reveal, 130 00:07:32.639 --> 00:07:35.480 And then now that we've had a whole week to 131 00:07:35.480 --> 00:07:38.879 sit on it, everybody right about being mad about the price, 132 00:07:38.920 --> 00:07:39.680 So you think it's. 133 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:44.639 Just now the price is bad. My it's I don't 134 00:07:44.680 --> 00:07:46.480 care about the price because I wasn't gonna go on anyway. 135 00:07:47.519 --> 00:07:52.160 My point, my feeling is like games, most games aren't 136 00:07:52.160 --> 00:07:58.000 even utilizing the PS five power anyway, so them throwing 137 00:07:58.040 --> 00:08:01.079 more horse power at it, You're like, it's not going 138 00:08:01.160 --> 00:08:03.839 to like make games better or you know, it'll just 139 00:08:03.879 --> 00:08:08.240 make like the super obnoxious like Digital Foundry, no offense 140 00:08:08.279 --> 00:08:11.560 to them nerds you know care about you know, oh 141 00:08:11.959 --> 00:08:14.839 this one texture is bad, or you know it's it's 142 00:08:14.879 --> 00:08:18.519 slightly more alias here than or anti alias and the 143 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:20.959 pro than on the PS five you know baseline model. 144 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:24.120 Like, so you think it's more of a like a 145 00:08:24.680 --> 00:08:27.040 when you do an upgrade with your PC, where you're 146 00:08:27.120 --> 00:08:30.040 just trying to throw something new at it to see 147 00:08:30.040 --> 00:08:31.439 if it makes your game look better. 148 00:08:32.000 --> 00:08:35.720 I mean with a PC that are more tangible benefits 149 00:08:35.759 --> 00:08:38.919 to it at least, like and it also not I 150 00:08:38.919 --> 00:08:43.759 mean if you already have a gaming you know GPU, 151 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:46.960 like a you know, a thirty even like at twenty 152 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:51.120 seventy or something like that still is plenty powerful, like 153 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:54.679 and you can still run most games. You know, it 154 00:08:54.720 --> 00:08:57.279 may not be four K or whatever, but hey, it'll 155 00:08:57.320 --> 00:09:01.440 run ten eighty just fine, Like I think gaming nerds, 156 00:09:01.840 --> 00:09:04.039 or PC nerds in particular, are So I'm not like 157 00:09:04.159 --> 00:09:07.240 obsessed with like, oh I'm running at four K with 158 00:09:07.480 --> 00:09:10.639 you know deal ss on and ray tracing and this, 159 00:09:10.840 --> 00:09:15.360 you know four hundred hurts you know screen and all 160 00:09:15.399 --> 00:09:18.120 the those stupid craft that's say, okay, but how is 161 00:09:18.120 --> 00:09:20.639 this actually making the game better you know, or like 162 00:09:20.759 --> 00:09:24.559 more you know, more innovative or that's my problem really 163 00:09:24.679 --> 00:09:29.519 is like they they equate power as like a graphical 164 00:09:29.559 --> 00:09:33.559 fidelity as like an innovation, and it's like, yo, dog, 165 00:09:33.600 --> 00:09:36.559 it's not like you can make the most beautiful looking 166 00:09:36.559 --> 00:09:40.000 game ever. But if it's not fun to play, who cares? 167 00:09:40.279 --> 00:09:42.799 I mean, if that's the If that's the case, why 168 00:09:42.840 --> 00:09:46.279 don't just start selling three D H three D mark 169 00:09:46.399 --> 00:09:48.960 you know, benchmark tests and going like, here's a game. 170 00:09:49.080 --> 00:09:51.320 You can't make me play it, but hey it'll look nice. 171 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:56.480 Yeah. I think I'm in a little bit of a different. 172 00:09:57.320 --> 00:10:02.000 Both id I did see kind of partially, I don't know, Well, 173 00:10:02.000 --> 00:10:04.000 you were talking about like either getting this thing or 174 00:10:04.039 --> 00:10:06.320 a new or like a new gaming laptop or gaming 175 00:10:06.320 --> 00:10:09.399 pcing right, and it's a well, first of all, like 176 00:10:10.200 --> 00:10:13.120 you know, they lied about eight K gaming on the 177 00:10:13.159 --> 00:10:15.559 original PS five, like they had to take that little 178 00:10:15.559 --> 00:10:18.159 sticker off because no game actually ever does it well. 179 00:10:18.200 --> 00:10:21.799 And then also if they do AK gaming, the quality 180 00:10:21.840 --> 00:10:25.480 of the images go down a ton because look, I 181 00:10:25.519 --> 00:10:27.879 think I saw Alan Wake two runs of like eight 182 00:10:27.960 --> 00:10:30.840 sixty four p or something to be able to do 183 00:10:31.000 --> 00:10:33.759 the sixty frames and something. 184 00:10:33.759 --> 00:10:38.120 Of all, who actually has an AK TV The cheaper 185 00:10:38.600 --> 00:10:40.759 the cheapest one I found on like eBay or I 186 00:10:40.759 --> 00:10:43.759 mean best Buy, I was like two thousand dollars, and 187 00:10:43.799 --> 00:10:45.519 it's like these things aren't going to be three hundred 188 00:10:45.559 --> 00:10:47.240 dollars by next year, you know. 189 00:10:48.919 --> 00:10:52.679 Yeah, uh no? And I mean, honestly, the AK thing 190 00:10:52.799 --> 00:10:55.679 is you don't need that. Maybe not even not even 191 00:10:55.720 --> 00:10:57.679 when we get to the PS six, which we have 192 00:10:57.720 --> 00:11:00.679 a little bit of news on that, will that be 193 00:11:00.759 --> 00:11:03.879 a thing? I think, I mean, ultimately a K might 194 00:11:03.919 --> 00:11:06.559 be something, But honestly, the thing that's gonna move the 195 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:09.799 needle is if you don't ever have TV get anything 196 00:11:09.799 --> 00:11:12.519 close to a K, nobody's gonna buy an AK TV. 197 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:16.240 So if most people people are not gonna buy AK 198 00:11:16.320 --> 00:11:19.919 TV just to watch movies in AK, they're not unless 199 00:11:19.960 --> 00:11:22.600 you're unless you're gonna put yeah, go ahead. 200 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:25.000 They aren't even AK movies out, I mean four K. 201 00:11:25.799 --> 00:11:28.080 You know there might feel like Netflix might have like 202 00:11:28.120 --> 00:11:30.480 one or two eight K streams or something, but they're 203 00:11:30.480 --> 00:11:33.919 not like a K discs and there's no eight K player. 204 00:11:34.399 --> 00:11:36.759 I don't, no, that's true. But what I'm saying is like, 205 00:11:36.960 --> 00:11:39.799 if you're not gonna be able to watch most of 206 00:11:39.840 --> 00:11:42.440 the things that you would watch on TV and a K, 207 00:11:42.679 --> 00:11:44.960 people are not gonna buy a four K TV or 208 00:11:45.759 --> 00:11:48.679 it's hard to get you. It's it's now it's easier 209 00:11:48.720 --> 00:11:51.039 to justify people getting a four K TV because they're 210 00:11:51.080 --> 00:11:53.639 just so much so cheaper. Now there's so much cheaper, 211 00:11:53.679 --> 00:11:56.759 Like you can get that like even the upscale four K. 212 00:11:56.919 --> 00:11:59.159 Right for two hundred dollars. 213 00:11:59.200 --> 00:12:05.240 If not Yeah, but AK AK that's ridiculous, Like there's 214 00:12:05.279 --> 00:12:08.120 nothing that really want that even and even in four 215 00:12:08.200 --> 00:12:11.799 years there probably still won't be, yeah, because you have 216 00:12:11.840 --> 00:12:13.600 to be able to get streaming to work in AK 217 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:17.519 and no. God, yeah, let's see that works. 218 00:12:16.559 --> 00:12:16.759 You know. 219 00:12:18.879 --> 00:12:21.759 I think for me, my my thing was the reason 220 00:12:21.799 --> 00:12:24.639 why I said that is because of the price, right 221 00:12:24.679 --> 00:12:27.320 of like if I really wanted to, I could go 222 00:12:27.399 --> 00:12:32.159 trade in my PS five right and right now, Well, 223 00:12:32.240 --> 00:12:34.720 actually this was this weekend. I don't even know. Let 224 00:12:34.720 --> 00:12:38.440 me while we're sitting here talking. This weekend, game Stop 225 00:12:38.639 --> 00:12:43.120 was basically getting anybody that they possibly could. If you 226 00:12:43.200 --> 00:12:46.480 wanted to go trade in your PlayStation five, you could 227 00:12:46.519 --> 00:12:49.159 get four hundred and ten dollars for And that's for 228 00:12:49.320 --> 00:12:51.159 the disc one. I think if you got if it's 229 00:12:51.200 --> 00:12:56.399 a digital one, it's three hundred, which okay, smart by 230 00:12:56.440 --> 00:13:01.039 game Stop, right, But I don't. I think when we 231 00:13:01.080 --> 00:13:05.799 get to closer to when the game actually the system, sorry, 232 00:13:05.799 --> 00:13:08.600 when the system actually releases, they're not going to be 233 00:13:08.600 --> 00:13:09.799 giving you that much money for it. 234 00:13:10.200 --> 00:13:10.399 Yeah. 235 00:13:10.480 --> 00:13:12.639 Now they know you're going to be desperate to give 236 00:13:12.679 --> 00:13:13.080 it away. 237 00:13:13.559 --> 00:13:15.799 Yeah. Now it's three hundred and twenty five in store credit. 238 00:13:16.360 --> 00:13:19.320 Yeah who knows that means probably like two seventy five 239 00:13:19.360 --> 00:13:24.159 in cash, but oh wow. Yeah. So if you if 240 00:13:24.200 --> 00:13:27.159 you pre ordered it somewhere else and you're just going 241 00:13:27.200 --> 00:13:30.120 to game Stop to get money for it, you're gonna 242 00:13:30.120 --> 00:13:32.159 be two hundred bucks, which I mean two hundred bucks 243 00:13:32.200 --> 00:13:35.080 off of seven hundred our console is still something, but 244 00:13:35.240 --> 00:13:38.879 still again, this is why, like I think, when you 245 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:42.440 look at what's in this system and when the scene 246 00:13:42.679 --> 00:13:46.960 guy was saying that I don't don't I'm gonna say personally, 247 00:13:46.960 --> 00:13:51.639 for me, I'm overdue to go to the the optometrist 248 00:13:51.879 --> 00:13:54.600 and get new glasses. I've had these lasts for four years, 249 00:13:54.759 --> 00:13:58.120 so probably for me, when I put the new glasses on, 250 00:13:58.840 --> 00:14:00.559 I'm gonna see a lot of things that I didn't 251 00:14:00.559 --> 00:14:04.120 see before, a lot more clearly. And he said that 252 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:07.639 basically putting on a playing something between a PS five 253 00:14:07.679 --> 00:14:09.320 and a PS five pro is like putting on a 254 00:14:09.320 --> 00:14:11.600 new pair of losses. You're gonna see things a lot clearer, 255 00:14:11.919 --> 00:14:14.639 but it's really not making a huge difference to what 256 00:14:14.720 --> 00:14:18.840 you're playing. And sure, if you like performance mode, which 257 00:14:18.879 --> 00:14:20.840 Mark Zoney did point out that three out of four 258 00:14:20.840 --> 00:14:26.799 people will do performance mode over quality, which fine, okay, cool, 259 00:14:27.480 --> 00:14:31.120 But also because a lot of people don't have four KTVs, 260 00:14:31.159 --> 00:14:35.559 so a lot of it's ten ADP sixty or fourteen 261 00:14:35.639 --> 00:14:38.559 forty sixty. So if you don't have four KTV that 262 00:14:38.799 --> 00:14:41.159 that sixty helps lost the performance mode. People care a 263 00:14:41.200 --> 00:14:44.200 lot about that, having the faster frames and all that stuff, 264 00:14:44.679 --> 00:14:47.519 and that's that's great. I'm glad that they're but this 265 00:14:48.360 --> 00:14:52.039 I don't think unless you really really need it, you 266 00:14:52.120 --> 00:14:55.000 need to be concerning yourself with going and buying the 267 00:14:55.000 --> 00:14:57.639 PS five pro. I just don't think you. 268 00:14:57.639 --> 00:15:01.799 Do, Avin Yanzo's I mean he was talking because I mean, 269 00:15:01.840 --> 00:15:04.519 here has the money to buy it obviously, right, And 270 00:15:04.679 --> 00:15:08.159 I mentioned like, oh, you know that you have to 271 00:15:08.240 --> 00:15:10.759 the discrive is eighty bucks, and he like, you didn't 272 00:15:10.759 --> 00:15:12.480 really know what it meant. But then like last night 273 00:15:12.559 --> 00:15:14.039 he was ranking about it a little. He's like, wait, 274 00:15:14.519 --> 00:15:16.960 it's like buy it separately, and I was like, yeah, 275 00:15:17.919 --> 00:15:21.039 you know, get a bolted on the bottom, and I 276 00:15:21.240 --> 00:15:23.919 think it's the same disk drive as like the slim model. 277 00:15:24.399 --> 00:15:27.320 Yes it is, so I mean I guess that's something. 278 00:15:27.360 --> 00:15:29.559 But the fact that the scand is like, you know, 279 00:15:29.600 --> 00:15:30.679 a thirty dollars but now. 280 00:15:30.559 --> 00:15:32.639 It's sold out, so like go try to buy it 281 00:15:32.720 --> 00:15:35.480 and you gotta pay like four hundred dollars extra for more. 282 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:38.559 For that, right, But yeah, the you know, even the 283 00:15:38.559 --> 00:15:41.000 scan being like thirty bucks extra, which you know, hey, 284 00:15:41.080 --> 00:15:43.600 my PS five came came with a decent scand already. 285 00:15:43.759 --> 00:15:47.279 So yeah, see that's my thing is if they if 286 00:15:47.320 --> 00:15:50.480 they come out with with this one also has that 287 00:15:50.519 --> 00:15:53.360 little cheap stand that makes it for my PS five 288 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:57.919 ro would it fall down. I don't need that stand. 289 00:15:58.000 --> 00:15:59.519 But if you're gonna tell me that y'all made it 290 00:15:59.559 --> 00:16:01.919 to where you have to use that vertical stand, that's 291 00:16:01.960 --> 00:16:04.679 a bunch of bull. To charge people thirty dollars for that. 292 00:16:04.759 --> 00:16:07.000 You could have easily ate the cost of that. 293 00:16:07.159 --> 00:16:10.759 It's not gotten news for you. You know, like that's 294 00:16:10.799 --> 00:16:11.960 exactly what they're gonna do. 295 00:16:12.799 --> 00:16:15.080 Well, no, I know what you're saying. I mean, they're 296 00:16:15.080 --> 00:16:17.519 not gonna promote that and put vertical stands sote belie. 297 00:16:17.519 --> 00:16:21.159 If they're including a stand, it's pretty much them saying, 298 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:23.639 if you want your PS five to stand up, which 299 00:16:23.679 --> 00:16:27.320 a lot of people, including myself, your setup is, you 300 00:16:27.440 --> 00:16:33.080 have to make it stand right. Then you know, you're 301 00:16:33.159 --> 00:16:35.320 you're basically telling people, oh, you got to pay a 302 00:16:35.320 --> 00:16:37.480 premium for this if you want the same setup you 303 00:16:37.480 --> 00:16:41.600 did have. And then, you know, I think most people 304 00:16:41.840 --> 00:16:45.720 at that point you're you're gonna trade in your PS 305 00:16:45.759 --> 00:16:48.879 five because unless you have a kid or certifican other 306 00:16:49.080 --> 00:16:51.360 or somebody else to give it to, why are you 307 00:16:51.440 --> 00:16:54.000 gonna sit there and have a PS five or if 308 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:58.279 you have what's supposed to be the better version of it, right, 309 00:16:58.320 --> 00:16:59.879 so you'll save a little bit of money there. But 310 00:17:00.039 --> 00:17:03.600 I just don't think that in the long run, this 311 00:17:03.679 --> 00:17:07.680 thing really is worth you going out of your way 312 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:10.839 to make sure you get it on day one because 313 00:17:11.480 --> 00:17:15.599 they're not going to have anything amazing that you need 314 00:17:15.640 --> 00:17:18.359 to go play with it. It's games that have already 315 00:17:18.440 --> 00:17:18.839 been out. 316 00:17:19.799 --> 00:17:21.680 Yeah, it's the same problem as you know the PS 317 00:17:21.720 --> 00:17:24.680 four Pro and also like them go. I'm like, hey, 318 00:17:24.720 --> 00:17:26.920 you can play Ratchet and Clank better. It's like great, 319 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:28.519 that's a three year old game. 320 00:17:29.079 --> 00:17:31.839 The things that they showed also that, for one, the 321 00:17:31.960 --> 00:17:34.000 presentation was terrible because it's like, well, how am I 322 00:17:34.039 --> 00:17:35.960 going to see the things that you want me to see? 323 00:17:36.519 --> 00:17:38.240 Not only do you have the problem with the YouTube 324 00:17:38.359 --> 00:17:42.000 compression that mean bad. Most people are watching on their phone. 325 00:17:42.079 --> 00:17:45.680 I watched it again on my my four k lgol it. 326 00:17:45.680 --> 00:17:48.440 It looks better than on my phone obviously, but I'm 327 00:17:48.519 --> 00:17:51.400 still having to sit there and watch these things on 328 00:17:51.480 --> 00:17:56.519 a small little picture and picture that you're showing me, right, 329 00:17:57.759 --> 00:18:00.599 because I don't know. I get it that you want 330 00:18:00.640 --> 00:18:03.039 to show the side by side, but it's not really 331 00:18:03.200 --> 00:18:05.440 telling me what am I really getting with it? Oh 332 00:18:05.480 --> 00:18:08.599 look at the crowd distance. Now I see more crowd 333 00:18:08.799 --> 00:18:13.880 when I play rights and crank. Now I see more 334 00:18:15.440 --> 00:18:18.519 draw a distance with Spider Man that the trees don't 335 00:18:18.519 --> 00:18:22.079 look as bad. It's like, and you're gonna tell me 336 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:24.119 that that's one hundred dollars more. 337 00:18:24.720 --> 00:18:26.720 Well, it's like, if you're that obsessed with that crap, 338 00:18:27.000 --> 00:18:29.559 buy a PC and then you know, I spend three thousand, 339 00:18:30.039 --> 00:18:32.960 okay eight video cards and you know, go out. 340 00:18:33.039 --> 00:18:35.279 That's where I do agree with people. You're not going 341 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:37.880 to You're not going to find a PC for seven 342 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:40.519 hundred dollars that's going to do what the pside pro did, 343 00:18:41.799 --> 00:18:44.039 especially because apparently has already an A four and all 344 00:18:44.039 --> 00:18:47.039 this stuff in it. But if you care about that 345 00:18:47.160 --> 00:18:51.480 stuff and you're a Sony only gamer, then okay, you 346 00:18:51.519 --> 00:18:55.519 make that decision. But this is also so many telling you. Look, 347 00:18:55.680 --> 00:18:57.920 you went and bought all the other stuff that everybody 348 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:02.000 said was useless, right, Oh the portal. Everybody was talking 349 00:19:02.039 --> 00:19:05.839 shit about that thing, and that thing sold like crazy 350 00:19:06.119 --> 00:19:07.079 right when it came out. 351 00:19:07.319 --> 00:19:10.759 Oh yeah, this thing will sell, it'll sell out. 352 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:13.279 But I'm just saying people that are complaining about the price, 353 00:19:13.440 --> 00:19:16.799 that's also they do that because you bought all those 354 00:19:16.839 --> 00:19:18.920 things that you said you weren't gonna buy, So they're 355 00:19:18.920 --> 00:19:21.200 just looking at you and going, oh, yeah, whatever, you're 356 00:19:21.200 --> 00:19:22.799 telling me you're not gonna buy this, And then here 357 00:19:22.839 --> 00:19:26.279 you are pre ordering a day one. So you know 358 00:19:26.799 --> 00:19:30.519 that's partially partial part of its inflation, right. Part of 359 00:19:30.559 --> 00:19:33.160 it is could they have made an extra scut without 360 00:19:33.160 --> 00:19:37.119 a two terribied drive? Sure, that's something I thought about, 361 00:19:37.160 --> 00:19:39.640 like why did you have to put a two terribied 362 00:19:39.720 --> 00:19:40.279 drive in here? 363 00:19:40.559 --> 00:19:45.759 Like games like Call of Duty take up gigabytes. 364 00:19:45.359 --> 00:19:47.799 I know, but I'm just saying, like, you know, that's 365 00:19:47.839 --> 00:19:50.160 gonna cost you one hundred dollars because even if you 366 00:19:50.240 --> 00:19:53.880 buy one off not off the PlayStation store, that one 367 00:19:53.880 --> 00:19:55.880 costs like one hundred and thirty dollars. But even if 368 00:19:55.920 --> 00:19:59.039 you buy one that's like mid range or whatever, it's 369 00:19:59.039 --> 00:20:01.920 so eighty bucks, right, So the price that they're charging 370 00:20:01.920 --> 00:20:04.119 for the two terabyte drive is not really out of 371 00:20:04.160 --> 00:20:06.799 the realm to charge one hundred dollars for that, But 372 00:20:06.839 --> 00:20:09.400 then you're charging another one hundred. This is this is 373 00:20:09.400 --> 00:20:12.960 the digital PS five by the way, not the disc one, 374 00:20:13.039 --> 00:20:15.359 because then you're you're paying eighty bucks more for the 375 00:20:15.440 --> 00:20:19.559 disk drive thing, but just including the digit let's say 376 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:22.039 you had a digital PS five right now, that three 377 00:20:22.119 --> 00:20:25.480 hundred dollars. That's how they're justifying it, is like anywhere 378 00:20:25.519 --> 00:20:28.680 from fifty to one hundred dollars for inflation. The rest 379 00:20:28.720 --> 00:20:30.039 of it is the tech, and then at least one 380 00:20:30.119 --> 00:20:33.000 hundred dollars of that is the dry the two terabytes. 381 00:20:33.359 --> 00:20:36.920 So it's like they could have found ways to shave 382 00:20:37.240 --> 00:20:39.599 money off of this, But because they know that they're 383 00:20:39.680 --> 00:20:42.039 sequel that are going to complain and then turn around 384 00:20:42.039 --> 00:20:44.720 and buy the thing, they were just out here going, well, 385 00:20:44.759 --> 00:20:47.440 you know what, this is not necessary. It's a premium product. 386 00:20:47.960 --> 00:20:49.440 You want to go buy it. You want to have 387 00:20:49.519 --> 00:20:53.759 the best thing we possibly put out, then go ahead 388 00:20:53.839 --> 00:20:54.240 buy it. 389 00:20:54.799 --> 00:20:57.359 You know, well the best way we have to put 390 00:20:57.359 --> 00:20:59.680 out for three more years and three to four more 391 00:20:59.720 --> 00:21:01.240 years the PS six comes out. 392 00:21:02.680 --> 00:21:05.480 It's yeah, that's true too till the PS six comes up. 393 00:21:05.519 --> 00:21:07.720 But I mean, and they already mentioned they made a 394 00:21:07.720 --> 00:21:11.359 deal with AMD today about that. Apparently AMD is going 395 00:21:11.400 --> 00:21:13.880 to be the one making the the GPU and all 396 00:21:13.920 --> 00:21:18.039 that for the PlayStation six, which apparently is a big 397 00:21:18.079 --> 00:21:21.119 deal because of backwards probability, they wanted to make sure 398 00:21:21.279 --> 00:21:25.240 that that was going to be no issues between you know, 399 00:21:25.880 --> 00:21:29.519 PS four, PS five and now PS six being able 400 00:21:29.559 --> 00:21:32.160 to work with that, which is good on Sonya or whatever. 401 00:21:32.240 --> 00:21:37.920