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<v Speaker 1>Okay, we're live. This is William Ramsey. Welcome to William

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<v Speaker 1>Ramsey Investigates On today's show. I have a very special guest,

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<v Speaker 1>returning guest, Stephen B. Eubanie. We talked about his earlier

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<v Speaker 1>book titled Who Murdered Dana, So if you want to

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<v Speaker 1>go listen to that, you can go through my archives

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<v Speaker 1>and see that. But today we're going to talk about

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<v Speaker 1>I think it's the first book in the series that

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<v Speaker 1>he published, which is Who Murdered Elvis. He also has

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<v Speaker 1>another one titled Who Murdered Fdr, and then he has

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<v Speaker 1>another one coming out in the future, Who Murdered Tesla.

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<v Speaker 1>I think the publication date planned publication date is twenty

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<v Speaker 1>twenty four, and Steve's full website is Who Murdered Books

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<v Speaker 1>dot com, so I will include that in the show notes.

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<v Speaker 1>I never thought Elvis. I thought Elvis died of a

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<v Speaker 1>drug overdose. Then I started looking through all the facts

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<v Speaker 1>of this case and there's a lot of problems here.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm glad Steve returned. So Steve and Ubanie, welcome

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<v Speaker 1>back to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's great to be back. Thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>Awesome. So for people who may not have heard our

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<v Speaker 1>last show. Can you kind of talk about your background?

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<v Speaker 1>You said this was the book that you in the

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<v Speaker 1>pre show, you said, this is the book you researched

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<v Speaker 1>the most about. Can you kind of talk about how,

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<v Speaker 1>I know you wrote about it in the book, but

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<v Speaker 1>how you initially got interested in looking into who murdered it? Was?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, I've always been I've always been a fan. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean my mom. I got that from my mom. I

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<v Speaker 2>think I grew up spending the original forty five when

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<v Speaker 2>I was a kid, and when he died. I never

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<v Speaker 2>believed the story, and I don't think anybody believed it,

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<v Speaker 2>and we were right not to believe it because it

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<v Speaker 2>was ridiculous. And you know, as I, as I matured

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<v Speaker 2>and grew a little older, I wanted to wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>learn a few, you know, a few more things about this.

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<v Speaker 2>And we have these things in our lives that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>just don't bring true when we put them in the

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<v Speaker 2>back burner and say, oh, I'll look at that at

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<v Speaker 2>another time as well. This was the time. So I

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<v Speaker 2>was at the thirtieth anniversary of his death and I'm

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<v Speaker 2>watching this thing on television and all the people who

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<v Speaker 2>found his body ears or five or six of them.

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<v Speaker 2>None of them could agree on where he was found,

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<v Speaker 2>what color pajamas he was wearing, what time of day

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<v Speaker 2>it was. I said, man, this is one magical corpse.

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<v Speaker 2>So you combine that with a fabled cause of death,

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<v Speaker 2>which I didn't believe in the first place. So I said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I really got to get to the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>of this. So this is how you know, this is

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<v Speaker 2>what started the whole thing, And I didn't. I just

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<v Speaker 2>started poking around for my own knowledge. I didn't want

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<v Speaker 2>to know Elvis Probus was murdered. It bugged the hell

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<v Speaker 2>out of me, you know, especially being a fan. I

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<v Speaker 2>didn't want to know this.

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<v Speaker 1>But right now, he had a premature death. He died

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<v Speaker 1>on August sixteenth, nineteen seventy seven. He was only forty two.

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<v Speaker 1>He didn't look great, he wasn't in great shape. But

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<v Speaker 1>there's some real, real concerns. I mean, so nobody could

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<v Speaker 1>come up with actually the real story of where his

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<v Speaker 1>body was found, right like, oh, the bed or the

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<v Speaker 1>bathroom or yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Joe Esposito, his road manager, set at Baptist Memorial Hospital

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<v Speaker 2>that he was found dead in bed, and then forty

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<v Speaker 2>five minutes later at Graceland he told the authorities he

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<v Speaker 2>was found that in the floor in front of the toilet. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>Joel Esposito is no longer with us, But what I

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<v Speaker 2>can say about Joe is that he always tells us

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<v Speaker 2>the truth. He just told it four different ways. And

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<v Speaker 2>everyone involved in this, all of the people who were

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<v Speaker 2>in his Memphis mafia, which is his inner group of people,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean, they just continue to tell different

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<v Speaker 2>stories about the same event. And it's crazy, it really is.

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<v Speaker 2>So I started out trying to get to the bottom

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<v Speaker 2>of all of it. And this book you're read it

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<v Speaker 2>was volume one in the series. I did two Elvis books.

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<v Speaker 2>I did one five years later, which was the fifth

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<v Speaker 2>anniversary edition that has even more information than So there

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<v Speaker 2>was ten years of work that went into this book.

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<v Speaker 1>And so you started out just by noticing the stories

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<v Speaker 1>didn't add up with the people surrounding you. Can you

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<v Speaker 1>talk about Elvis's the kind of Memphis mafia that surrounded him,

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<v Speaker 1>what he was doing up intil the days of his death,

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<v Speaker 1>and kind of he had had a pretty curious, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>largely unknown connection with law enforcement, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Elvis was Elvis had a very interesting connection to

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<v Speaker 2>law enforcement. Of course, a lot of people don't know that.

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<v Speaker 2>In December twenty first, nineteen seventy, he became a federal

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<v Speaker 2>narcotics agent. And Richard Nixon he wanted to get that

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<v Speaker 2>moniker because he wanted to fly around the country with

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<v Speaker 2>his guns on him because he was getting death threats.

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<v Speaker 2>So he was a federal narcotics agent. He also was everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>He went, every county, every town. He used the local

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<v Speaker 2>local sheriff's department, in the local police department to help

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<v Speaker 2>with crowd control and so forth. So he was very

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<v Speaker 2>very blue friendly. He got along with the cops really

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<v Speaker 2>really well, and he collected badges. You know, they would

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<v Speaker 2>give him honorary badges. It's actually pretty interesting. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>he uh, he was starting to get some he was

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<v Speaker 2>really starting to get some very serious death threats. So

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<v Speaker 2>you know, he wanted to uh, he wanted to beef

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<v Speaker 2>up uh. He wanted to beef up his uh, his

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<v Speaker 2>arms on him. I mean he would stand at the

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<v Speaker 2>wedding of Sunny West wearing four pistols. He would go

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<v Speaker 2>on stage under his uh, you know, under the bell bottoms,

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<v Speaker 2>with a pistol on his on his ankle. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is this isn't conspiracy talk. This is real talk.

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<v Speaker 2>They wanted this guy dead. Scary stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah what what Why did they want him dead?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, lots and lots of reasons. And when I first

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<v Speaker 2>talked about what you mentioned earlier, and then I can

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<v Speaker 2>go into that about Elvis not looking good at the end,

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<v Speaker 2>which he he did not. Elvis did have a couple

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<v Speaker 2>of health problems.

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<v Speaker 1>He had.

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<v Speaker 2>He had hyph pertection, his blood sugar was a little

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<v Speaker 2>too high. But the bloated, pasty look that we look

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<v Speaker 2>back now and say, oh my god, he was in

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<v Speaker 2>terrible shape. He Elvis had a birth defect. It was

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<v Speaker 2>a twisted colon, and it's common in boys. I didn't

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<v Speaker 2>know that. One of my friends is a forensic pathologist.

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<v Speaker 2>I had a conversation with him and a couple others

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<v Speaker 2>before I wrote the book. Common in boys to have

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<v Speaker 2>a twisted colon. And when you combine that with downers,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna end up with constipation. If I give you,

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<v Speaker 2>if I'm a doctor and to prescribe uppers, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>you're gonna get the runs, downers are going to constipate you.

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<v Speaker 2>So you take a birth defect of a twisted colon

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<v Speaker 2>combined with downers, you're going to be compacted pretty well.

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<v Speaker 2>And that was discovered at the autopsy. Elvis probably hadn't

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<v Speaker 2>had a bowel movement for a month and this contributed

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<v Speaker 2>to and he was scheduled for surgery actually actually to

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<v Speaker 2>to take care of it. He never made it. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>they got to him beforehand. But that explains that that look,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, that very strange, pasty look that he had

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<v Speaker 2>in the last the last you know, the last month

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<v Speaker 2>or so of his h of his life.

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<v Speaker 1>He was He also was on drugs too. I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>he had a huge the narcotics that he was taking

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<v Speaker 1>were confirmed.

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<v Speaker 2>He's not true m yes and no. Prescribed and taking

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<v Speaker 2>were two different things. In nineteen seventy six, Elvis Presley

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<v Speaker 2>almost went bankrupt. He was the biggest he was the

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<v Speaker 2>biggest tax payer in the state of Tennessee. So his

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<v Speaker 2>father had had to seize his he had to take

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<v Speaker 2>control of his finances to keep them solving. So they

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<v Speaker 2>started to do away with certain things. You know, they

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<v Speaker 2>sold a plane, which I'll get into later, which was

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<v Speaker 2>a fiasco, and that's how we ended up. The mob

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<v Speaker 2>was after him over that, but they were trying to

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<v Speaker 2>can so Elvis Elvis's Memphis Mafia. His inner group were

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<v Speaker 2>all pill poppers, and Elvis said, look, I don't want

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<v Speaker 2>to hear about this from my dad. Just to write

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<v Speaker 2>everybody's prescriptions under my name, So my dad, we'll get

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<v Speaker 2>off my back. So a lot was made. Nineteen seventy nine,

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<v Speaker 2>ABC's twenty twenty ju aldro Evera did a great special

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<v Speaker 2>on the death of Elvis, and he an entire sugar

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<v Speaker 2>bowl full of pills that Elvis president was prescribed to him.

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<v Speaker 2>But prescribed and taking are two different things, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>at the time, so he wasn't. If there was a

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<v Speaker 2>handful left, there was a couple left in the ball,

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis would take him. But everybody had their hands in

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<v Speaker 2>that bull, so he wasn't taking what everyone had said

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<v Speaker 2>he was taking. I had a conversation with his doctor finally,

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<v Speaker 2>and he said he didn't even have control of his drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>There was a nurse who was on premises who would

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<v Speaker 2>dispatch his drugs. He didn't have control of his drugs.

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<v Speaker 2>So everybody's saying, you know, he overdosed, he did this

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<v Speaker 2>in that is not even close to being true. I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this all melts away under the scrutiny of real investigative work.

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<v Speaker 2>So at the time, at the time he dies, there

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<v Speaker 2>are three toxicology reports done on Elvis Presley and the

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<v Speaker 2>first one was done at the University of Tennessee Baptist

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<v Speaker 2>Memorial that his hospital he died at didn't have a lab,

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<v Speaker 2>so the University of Tennessee toxicology report. And there are

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<v Speaker 2>four levels of drugs that you find in your system, Trace,

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<v Speaker 2>therapeutic which is what a doctor would prescribe you, toxic

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<v Speaker 2>which will make you quite sick, and then of course lethal,

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<v Speaker 2>and we all know what lethal is. In the case

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<v Speaker 2>of Elvis Presley, there were a couple of drugs that

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<v Speaker 2>there were four different drugs that were found between the

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<v Speaker 2>trace and therapeutic level, so you know, then they didn't

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<v Speaker 2>like that verdict, so they had another one done. Because

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<v Speaker 2>if all you have is a hammer, everything starts to

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<v Speaker 2>look like a nail, right, So somebody said he died

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<v Speaker 2>of a drug overdose. So they're looking for these drugs. Man,

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<v Speaker 2>they got to find these drugs. So they do another

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<v Speaker 2>toxicology report at a place around the corner from the hospital,

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<v Speaker 2>which has never been confirmed, and their results were the

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<v Speaker 2>exact same thing. So they can't figure out what killed

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<v Speaker 2>this guy. So finally, a few days later, Jerry T. Francisco,

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<v Speaker 2>who is the medical examiner who was in charge of

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<v Speaker 2>the autopsy, had promised everyone that he was going to

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<v Speaker 2>have a verdict that night at eight o'clock, just because

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<v Speaker 2>Nogucci took eleven days to come up with the results

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<v Speaker 2>of Marilyn Monroe's autopsy. So he goes out without one

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<v Speaker 2>fingerprint being lifted from Graceland, without any of the toxicology

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<v Speaker 2>reports being better, saying that he died of cardiac arrhythmia,

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<v Speaker 2>which is a bigger story than Mother Goose could tell

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<v Speaker 2>because a corner can't diagnose cardiac arrhythmia. You have to

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<v Speaker 2>have a beating heart, and a regular heartbeat can't be

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<v Speaker 2>detected on heart that stopped makes no sense.

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<v Speaker 1>So and the story we had no diagnosis of that

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<v Speaker 1>before the date of his death. Right, So nobody taking

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<v Speaker 2>For Doctor nccoppol is more the brunt of this. But

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<v Speaker 2>he had done he'd done everything everything to check Elvis.

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<v Speaker 2>Doctor Nicoppolo has got a bad rap. He really cared

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<v Speaker 2>for Elvis. He was really a very nice man, and

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<v Speaker 2>looking for these drugs, right, and this is where the

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<v Speaker 2>murder park comes in. And I'll tell you the end

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<v Speaker 2>from the beginning, and then I go backwards in the story.

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<v Speaker 2>Finally they take tissue samples and they send them out

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<v Speaker 2>to bioscience Laboratories in California, which at the time, in

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<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventy seven was the place they hid the top

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<v Speaker 2>stuff anybody could want, best equipment, and they hate it

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<v Speaker 2>out there, and they put it under an assumed name,

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<v Speaker 2>and it came back to Elvis Presley had a laundry

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<v Speaker 2>list of drugs in his system, and he had coding

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<v Speaker 2>in his system at eleven times a lethal level. Sounds great, right,

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<v Speaker 2>great story Wrong, It's not. It's not true at all.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know how this happened. Because Dan Warlick,

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<v Speaker 2>who was THEO, was at the autopsy, who was the

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<v Speaker 2>person who dissected Elvis's He did was dissected his vocal courts,

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<v Speaker 2>his lyrins, looking for some sort of swelling, looking for

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<v Speaker 2>an allergic reaction of some variety, and there was none.

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis Presley's allergic to coding, very allergic he almost died

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<v Speaker 2>of anaphylexic shock in nineteen sixty eight. Every one now

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<v Speaker 2>to keep coding away from Elvis Presley. Well, if there's

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<v Speaker 2>be eleven times the lethal level at the toxicology report.

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<v Speaker 2>If it's not in the body, it can't be in

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<v Speaker 2>a toxicology report. It just can't. So they take this

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<v Speaker 2>erroneous toxicology report and to give it to my friend,

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<v Speaker 2>doctor Sarahwuct, who had no idea that the first two

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<v Speaker 2>toxicology reports had been done that showed virtually no drugs

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<v Speaker 2>in Elvis's system, And they put him on camera and

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<v Speaker 2>he tells to the waiting world, you know this laundry

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<v Speaker 2>list of drugs that would have killed a herd of cattle,

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<v Speaker 2>and none of it was true. So we have gigantic

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<v Speaker 2>cover up here. So why did they want Elvis Presley?

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<v Speaker 1>Dad?

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<v Speaker 2>Uh, It's going to be really hard to encapsulate that

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<v Speaker 2>in the time that we have. Elvis Presley's manager, Colonel

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<v Speaker 2>Tom Parker, was in the mob. He was not a colonel.

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<v Speaker 2>His name was not Tom Parker. His name was Adreas Vancoup.

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<v Speaker 2>When he came from the Netherlands and he's snuck over

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<v Speaker 2>here in the hold of his ship. And I won't

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<v Speaker 2>there details about this in the book that I'm not

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<v Speaker 2>going to give away. Goes into the army, he goes awall,

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<v Speaker 2>and when he goes awall, he takes the name of

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<v Speaker 2>his commanding officer, Tom Parker, and he puts colonel in

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<v Speaker 2>front of it because it sounds great, right, Colonel Tom Parker.

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<v Speaker 2>This is why Elvis Presley could never pry abroad, because

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<v Speaker 2>Colonel Parker could never get a passport because he wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>an American citizen. He snuck in. So Colonel Parker had

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<v Speaker 2>a long standing friendship with a few mobsters in Vegas.

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<v Speaker 2>And I'll come up to the murder here in a second.

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<v Speaker 2>Milton Prell, who's the first one in Vegas who was

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<v Speaker 2>part of the Detroit Syndicate. He owned the Bingo Club,

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<v Speaker 2>became the Sarah Sahara, the Aladdin, the Mint big mob guys.

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<v Speaker 2>Another one is Modallas, who actually funded g. I. Blewis

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<v Speaker 2>in nineteen sixty. He became a huge friend to Colonel Parker.

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<v Speaker 1>Picture, sorry to interrupted you have a picture of Elvis

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<v Speaker 1>with Milton Pearl, Right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there's a lot of pictures in the book that

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<v Speaker 2>you're not going to find other places. And Modallas owned

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<v Speaker 2>you know this desert ind in the Stardust, and he

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<v Speaker 2>was from the Cleveland Syndicate. And these are the people

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<v Speaker 2>the Colonel Parker was hob nobbing around with because he

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<v Speaker 2>was managing Minnie Pearl and Gene Austin and Neddie Arnold,

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<v Speaker 2>and he was a carnival barker back in the country

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<v Speaker 2>he came from, so to manage talents like this, it

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<v Speaker 2>was natural to him. He was a genius. Colonel Parker

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<v Speaker 2>was a genius. So here we have his manager in

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<v Speaker 2>with the mob things that he didn't want to do.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't want to do those movies. There's a picture

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<v Speaker 2>speaking of that picture in my book. There's a picture

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<v Speaker 2>on the set of Gi Blues, and everyone in the

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<v Speaker 2>picture is smiling except Elvis. Elvis was miserable doing those movies.

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<v Speaker 2>And I have to tell a story and then I'll

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<v Speaker 2>get to the murder. I'm sorry. I don't mean to

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<v Speaker 2>lead you along.

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<v Speaker 1>So the background is very important to know. It's really good.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure, I won't mention the fellow's name because I spoke

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<v Speaker 2>with him and he didn't want me to mention his name.

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<v Speaker 2>But Elvis was so fed up with these movies. They

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<v Speaker 2>were reading a script and he was in he had

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<v Speaker 2>a home in California, and he was reading the script.

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<v Speaker 2>And actually know this gentleman quite well, but he'd want

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<v Speaker 2>me to use his name. And he said, Elvis is

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<v Speaker 2>flipping through this script and he flips out and he said, well,

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<v Speaker 2>I can tell you the language he used. But he said,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, I'm a speedboat racer and this one, the

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<v Speaker 2>last one was a motorcycle racer. You know, the next

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<v Speaker 2>one is is you know a motorcycle racer or a

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<v Speaker 2>speedboat or stock car racer. It's the same script. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not doing it. I've had it. And he takes this script,

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<v Speaker 2>which was it must have been one hundred thousand pages

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<v Speaker 2>if you've ever seen a movie script. And I mean

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<v Speaker 2>they were burning these movies out at thirty days a movie, right,

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<v Speaker 2>and he what was it? Up in the air and

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<v Speaker 2>he said, I'm not going. So the next day he

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<v Speaker 2>doesn't show up. This is how much he hated this.

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<v Speaker 2>He's being forced into it. So the next day RCA

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<v Speaker 2>came up, Colonel Parker came up, someone from the studio

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<v Speaker 2>came up, the director came up, and it was made

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<v Speaker 2>very very clear to Elvis that you're gonna do these

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<v Speaker 2>or you're not gonna do anything else. And there were

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<v Speaker 2>people in the room who heard this, and they weren't

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<v Speaker 2>threatening his career. So after this happens, Colonel Parker pulls

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<v Speaker 2>him aside again overheard by three or four people, two

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<v Speaker 2>of which I know well well knew well, they're no

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<v Speaker 2>longer with us, and he said, I'm gonna do this.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna do this, You're gonna do this, You're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>do this. And since I'm doing all this work for you,

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<v Speaker 2>it's now a fifty to fifty split, and he backed

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<v Speaker 2>and Colonel backdated it from the beginning of the year,

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<v Speaker 2>almost punishment, so it was a seventy five to twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five split. The deal was Elvis would get seventy five

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<v Speaker 2>percent and he would pay all the expenses. So the

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<v Speaker 2>arnold the twenty five percent that Colonel took was twenty

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<v Speaker 2>five percent legally, and he would sell buttons and shirts

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<v Speaker 2>and you know, posters, and nobody would ever get a

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<v Speaker 2>cut of it. So the mob is starting to surround

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis Presley in nineteen and when he gets married he

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<v Speaker 2>can't even plan his own wedding. It was. And these

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<v Speaker 2>are the same people who controlled Frank Sinatra's career. Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>So when Elvis gets married, he goes on Frank Sinatra's

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<v Speaker 2>jet to Milton Pearl's hotel. Colonel plans the wedding with

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<v Speaker 2>all of his mob buddies. Elvis is trapped. I always

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<v Speaker 2>looked at Elvis on stages like, man, what a great

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<v Speaker 2>it'd be great to be Elvis. Elvis was miserable, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 1>Elvis even married Priscilla at Pearl's apartment in Las Vegas

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<v Speaker 1>is a live hotel, right, so a very curious place

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<v Speaker 1>for that famous of a guy to get married.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I won't there's things that I won't say

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<v Speaker 2>on air about that marriage either, but very very curious.

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<v Speaker 2>So Elvis is in misery. He's in a velvet jail.

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<v Speaker 2>He can have any girly wants, he can add any

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<v Speaker 2>car he wants, he can had any motorcycle he wants,

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<v Speaker 2>which is great for a few years, but he has

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<v Speaker 2>no freedom. He can't do anything. He's got golden handcuffs

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<v Speaker 2>and he gets sick of it. And they're starting to

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<v Speaker 2>extort more money out of him now that the Mob

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<v Speaker 2>is partner with Colonel Parker. Now Colonel Parker is being threatened.

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<v Speaker 2>Why because the Mob knows that he's not a citizen,

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<v Speaker 2>so they're squeezing him. So the more they squeeze Colonel Parker,

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<v Speaker 2>the more Colonel Parker squeezes Elvis. When Elvis died, he

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<v Speaker 2>only had a million dollars in the bank. Where the

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<v Speaker 2>hell all the money go? Elvis sold six billion records

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<v Speaker 2>and this is at a time actually they don't have

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<v Speaker 2>an accurate count. It was at least that the recording

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<v Speaker 2>industry artists of America started tallying record sales well after

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis had his first his biggest years, six billion records?

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<v Speaker 2>Where'd all the money go? Which is probably going to

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<v Speaker 2>be the focus of another book I'm going to write

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<v Speaker 2>on Elvis at some point in the future. So Elvis

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<v Speaker 2>is swimming in mob. He can't get away from him.

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<v Speaker 2>So he goes to Nixon and he wants this narcotics

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<v Speaker 2>badge because he wants to carry guns. He also surrounds himself.

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<v Speaker 2>He starts getting into martial arts. Elvis is a black belt,

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<v Speaker 2>and he starts to surround his Memphis mafia with other

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<v Speaker 2>people who were black belts, who were bad dudes. It's

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<v Speaker 2>starting to get very hot and heated around him, so

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<v Speaker 2>Nixon says, sure, I'd love to have you. Elvis Presley

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<v Speaker 2>hated drugs, street drugs. One of the things they wanted

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis to do during the two months a year that

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<v Speaker 2>he spent through his contract working at the International Hotel

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<v Speaker 2>which became the Las Vegas Hilton, and who the hell

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<v Speaker 2>knows what it is now everything's changing out there was

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<v Speaker 2>to hide FBI agents in his band. So their job,

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<v Speaker 2>i mean, Elvis's road crew was it was twenty one

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<v Speaker 2>tracker trailers. That's how big his show was. So I

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<v Speaker 2>mean you only need you know, who needs five backup

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<v Speaker 2>vocal singers, right, So he was hiding these FBI agents

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<v Speaker 2>in his band, and their job is to bring down

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<v Speaker 2>the Mob. They were all caught, all of them. So

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis died very mysteriously a few days before he was

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<v Speaker 2>supposed to turn state's evidence against the mob, and how

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<v Speaker 2>they murdered him not going to given them away. How

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<v Speaker 2>they murdered him was a situation where the Mob is

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<v Speaker 2>very good at a few things, Okay, one of them

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<v Speaker 2>is creating causes of death that are very very hard

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<v Speaker 2>or impossible to even detect. And I go into it

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<v Speaker 2>in the book. I won't go into it here. But

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<v Speaker 2>Elvis got stuck between the mob and the FBI, and

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<v Speaker 2>so many of the high profile people did, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>very hard for me. I've been looking into this for

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<v Speaker 2>about fifteen years now. I got two books written on it.

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<v Speaker 2>I'll probably do a third at some point. It's very

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<v Speaker 2>difficult for me, even with every thing that i know,

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<v Speaker 2>even with all the Memphis Mafia I've talked to, even

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<v Speaker 2>with speaking with his doctor and talking to the people

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<v Speaker 2>at the autopsy, it's very interesting. When I watch him

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<v Speaker 2>on stage, or I watched like a Loha from Hawaii

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<v Speaker 2>or something, or I'll watch a movie, I still can't

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<v Speaker 2>come to grips with the fact that they murdered this guy.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very hard to come to grips with.

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<v Speaker 1>It's incredible. He was young, forty two. I mean, the

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<v Speaker 1>achievements that he had were incredible. I mean, but he

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<v Speaker 1>hed the people that he was surrounded with. He had

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<v Speaker 1>already divorced Priscilla, He had relationships with woman that he

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<v Speaker 1>was never going to marry. He was not interested in

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<v Speaker 1>marrying again.

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<v Speaker 2>Right, Well, it depends on who you talk to. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>this is again this is some of the official fiction

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<v Speaker 2>and what you decide to believe. Apparently he was engaged

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<v Speaker 2>and he was going to marry another girl. Allegedly, who

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<v Speaker 2>knows if that's true. I mean, a lot gets stuck

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<v Speaker 2>up in legend and lore. It's very hard for when

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<v Speaker 2>I write these books, they have to be Mistress bock

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<v Speaker 2>kind it and I can't, you know, I have to

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00:24:10.359 --> 00:24:12.480
<v Speaker 2>look at the logic of it and the evidence of it.

417
00:24:12.880 --> 00:24:19.960
<v Speaker 2>And the evidence is absolutely the evidence is is fantastic.

418
00:24:20.720 --> 00:24:26.519
<v Speaker 2>When Colonel Parker, when Elvis died, Colonel Parker was probably

419
00:24:26.519 --> 00:24:30.920
<v Speaker 2>one of the most degenerate gamblers we've ever seen. When

420
00:24:30.920 --> 00:24:33.759
<v Speaker 2>he died in nineteen seventy seven, he owned thirty two

421
00:24:33.880 --> 00:24:38.960
<v Speaker 2>million dollars to the to the Las Vegas casinos.

422
00:24:39.079 --> 00:24:40.359
<v Speaker 1>Wow, that's incredible.

423
00:24:40.680 --> 00:24:44.720
<v Speaker 2>He kept booking Elvis there and it was forty dollars

424
00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:47.160
<v Speaker 2>to watch Elvis with a gourmet meal, and people certainly

425
00:24:47.200 --> 00:24:53.359
<v Speaker 2>would have paid more. Elvis got great attendance records, and

426
00:24:53.400 --> 00:24:57.759
<v Speaker 2>Colonel Parker was at the tables and it was just

427
00:24:58.039 --> 00:25:00.640
<v Speaker 2>it was incredible that you know, I hate to keep

428
00:25:00.720 --> 00:25:02.079
<v Speaker 2>using that word, but I mean, I don't know if

429
00:25:02.119 --> 00:25:05.440
<v Speaker 2>there is another word that all of this mix is

430
00:25:05.480 --> 00:25:08.839
<v Speaker 2>going on around this country. Kid who could just sing?

431
00:25:09.200 --> 00:25:11.400
<v Speaker 2>I mean, it was just amazing. This is why Elvis

432
00:25:11.400 --> 00:25:13.960
<v Speaker 2>hated the business end of it. He just loved to

433
00:25:14.000 --> 00:25:16.440
<v Speaker 2>go on stage and sing. He hated the business end

434
00:25:16.519 --> 00:25:18.839
<v Speaker 2>of it because he knew they were all corrupt and

435
00:25:18.880 --> 00:25:21.079
<v Speaker 2>he knew that they were all trying to steal from them.

436
00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:22.640
<v Speaker 2>And they were.

437
00:25:22.759 --> 00:25:27.039
<v Speaker 1>Though, that's the whole thing. Like, wasn't his retinue like

438
00:25:27.480 --> 00:25:30.960
<v Speaker 1>notoriously free with his money and all kinds of stuff?

439
00:25:31.000 --> 00:25:33.359
<v Speaker 1>Like they were abusing his generosity?

440
00:25:33.440 --> 00:25:36.160
<v Speaker 2>Right, I'm sorry you'll like to repeat that he broke well.

441
00:25:36.200 --> 00:25:39.680
<v Speaker 1>I just thought that that that the entourage around Elvis,

442
00:25:39.720 --> 00:25:43.359
<v Speaker 1>Elvis abused his generosity. They were notorious for that.

443
00:25:45.279 --> 00:25:47.599
<v Speaker 2>Well, they didn't have to abuse it very well. They

444
00:25:47.599 --> 00:25:50.039
<v Speaker 2>didn't have to ask for anything because he just gave

445
00:25:50.119 --> 00:25:52.400
<v Speaker 2>and gave and gave. I mean, there was one. This

446
00:25:52.480 --> 00:25:57.559
<v Speaker 2>guy was really This guy was really something. I mean

447
00:25:57.559 --> 00:26:00.759
<v Speaker 2>the more I the more I rese h and learned

448
00:26:00.799 --> 00:26:02.559
<v Speaker 2>about this guy, and the more I talked to some

449
00:26:02.599 --> 00:26:04.799
<v Speaker 2>of the Memphis Mafia members, the more I started to

450
00:26:04.839 --> 00:26:08.319
<v Speaker 2>realize what an incredible human being this guy was. There

451
00:26:08.359 --> 00:26:10.359
<v Speaker 2>was a story where, I mean he would give away

452
00:26:10.400 --> 00:26:14.160
<v Speaker 2>Cadillacs and motorcycles like it was lunch money. It was

453
00:26:14.240 --> 00:26:17.559
<v Speaker 2>just absolutely it was just absolutely amazing. There was one

454
00:26:17.599 --> 00:26:20.880
<v Speaker 2>story where he was at a Cadillac dealership in California

455
00:26:22.000 --> 00:26:25.400
<v Speaker 2>and he was in there buying. Excuse me, he's in

456
00:26:25.440 --> 00:26:29.079
<v Speaker 2>there buying. It was just a Cadillac day. You decided

457
00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:30.920
<v Speaker 2>he was gonna go buy Cadillacs for everybody. I mean,

458
00:26:30.960 --> 00:26:34.319
<v Speaker 2>he's making one hundred and twenty five thousand dollars a

459
00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:39.519
<v Speaker 2>week playing on stage, you know, two three times a night,

460
00:26:39.880 --> 00:26:43.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, I mean nobody works like that anymore in Vegas.

461
00:26:43.119 --> 00:26:45.799
<v Speaker 2>I mean it was almost entertainment servitude. I mean, now

462
00:26:45.799 --> 00:26:47.759
<v Speaker 2>you play, you know every now and then two three

463
00:26:47.799 --> 00:26:50.160
<v Speaker 2>shows a night. He was so tired by the time

464
00:26:50.200 --> 00:26:52.680
<v Speaker 2>he got done playing that he was about cross eyed,

465
00:26:52.759 --> 00:26:55.160
<v Speaker 2>you know. So he's making one hundred and twenty five

466
00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.200
<v Speaker 2>grand a Week's a lot of money. So he decides

467
00:26:58.279 --> 00:27:00.759
<v Speaker 2>he's gonna go. When Elvis bought a Catdillac, he bought

468
00:27:00.799 --> 00:27:03.359
<v Speaker 2>him for everyone that was around him. Same with motorcycles,

469
00:27:03.359 --> 00:27:06.000
<v Speaker 2>same with horses, same with trucks, everything. So it was

470
00:27:06.079 --> 00:27:09.880
<v Speaker 2>Cadillac day. So Elvis decides he wants this baby blue

471
00:27:09.920 --> 00:27:13.160
<v Speaker 2>Cadillac with a white top, and he didn't didn't matter

472
00:27:13.160 --> 00:27:14.559
<v Speaker 2>to him if he gave it away the next day.

473
00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:18.240
<v Speaker 2>He wanted that day, right, So he goes to this

474
00:27:18.319 --> 00:27:21.359
<v Speaker 2>Cadillac dealership and they can't find exactly what he's looking for.

475
00:27:21.519 --> 00:27:24.599
<v Speaker 2>So he said, okay, well, Rerd, you're gonna get this

476
00:27:24.640 --> 00:27:26.319
<v Speaker 2>one on sunny, you're gonna get that one, and this

477
00:27:26.319 --> 00:27:29.960
<v Speaker 2>one's gonna get that one. Still no car for Elvis, right,

478
00:27:30.000 --> 00:27:33.039
<v Speaker 2>So as they're walking out, there's this woman walking down

479
00:27:33.039 --> 00:27:35.039
<v Speaker 2>the street, and this dealership is not in the greatest

480
00:27:35.039 --> 00:27:39.039
<v Speaker 2>of neighborhoods. So this girl walks up for an autograph.

481
00:27:39.079 --> 00:27:42.839
<v Speaker 2>She's about thirty, and Elvis can tell she doesn't have

482
00:27:42.960 --> 00:27:47.440
<v Speaker 2>much she was she looked a little shabby, so he said,

483
00:27:47.759 --> 00:27:50.279
<v Speaker 2>she said, what are you doing here, and he said, well,

484
00:27:50.279 --> 00:27:53.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm buying a couple of Cadillacts. You know, we just

485
00:27:53.359 --> 00:27:55.480
<v Speaker 2>we just decided on a whim to get Cadillacs. So

486
00:27:56.200 --> 00:27:57.920
<v Speaker 2>he started talking to her. She was married and had

487
00:27:57.920 --> 00:28:02.440
<v Speaker 2>two kids, and a long story short, he bought all

488
00:28:02.480 --> 00:28:05.079
<v Speaker 2>of the guys with him Cadillacs that day. He bought

489
00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:07.799
<v Speaker 2>her a Cadillac. He bought her husband a Cadillac and

490
00:28:07.880 --> 00:28:10.240
<v Speaker 2>both of hers Sona's Cadillacs.

491
00:28:12.079 --> 00:28:14.240
<v Speaker 1>That's amazing. I mean, he just he spent money. I

492
00:28:14.240 --> 00:28:16.079
<v Speaker 1>heard that he would get I would send a plane

493
00:28:16.119 --> 00:28:18.759
<v Speaker 1>to get his favorite sandwich from some place in Colorado.

494
00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:23.119
<v Speaker 1>That story wouldn't surprise me. Yeah, like I just want

495
00:28:23.119 --> 00:28:23.680
<v Speaker 1>that sandwich.

496
00:28:23.720 --> 00:28:28.039
<v Speaker 2>Send the plane when you're and you can have anything

497
00:28:28.079 --> 00:28:31.000
<v Speaker 2>you want, anytime you want, from anybody you want it from.

498
00:28:31.559 --> 00:28:35.279
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, did you ever find out what happened to all

499
00:28:35.279 --> 00:28:38.599
<v Speaker 1>his money? I mean, his heerrors are still worth a fortune,

500
00:28:38.640 --> 00:28:39.079
<v Speaker 1>aren't they.

501
00:28:41.240 --> 00:28:42.920
<v Speaker 2>I don't know. I can't speak for them, but I

502
00:28:43.079 --> 00:28:46.920
<v Speaker 2>I do know where a lot of the money went.

503
00:28:48.599 --> 00:28:51.319
<v Speaker 2>And I'm gonna I'm gonna hold onto that one because

504
00:28:51.359 --> 00:28:53.720
<v Speaker 2>that came to me through two Memphis Mafia members who

505
00:28:53.720 --> 00:28:56.920
<v Speaker 2>were no longer with us, and I think that's privileged information. So,

506
00:28:57.640 --> 00:28:59.960
<v Speaker 2>speaking of privileged information, I thought I was the only

507
00:29:00.079 --> 00:29:02.519
<v Speaker 2>When the new Elvis was murdered, Boy was I surprised.

508
00:29:03.799 --> 00:29:08.599
<v Speaker 2>So the first Elvis Presley's father, Vernon Presley, the first

509
00:29:08.680 --> 00:29:11.799
<v Speaker 2>words out of his mouth, oh my god, they've murdered

510
00:29:11.799 --> 00:29:15.960
<v Speaker 2>my son. So, I mean this begs two questions who

511
00:29:15.960 --> 00:29:19.359
<v Speaker 2>are they and why did they murder him? So Vernon

512
00:29:19.400 --> 00:29:22.640
<v Speaker 2>Presley was so convinced that Elvis Presley was murdered he

513
00:29:22.759 --> 00:29:28.799
<v Speaker 2>hired two private investigators to find the murderer. Wow, and

514
00:29:28.920 --> 00:29:31.240
<v Speaker 2>Vernon died. They were hot on the trail and they

515
00:29:31.240 --> 00:29:35.680
<v Speaker 2>were closing in. The problem was Vernon died shortly after Elvis.

516
00:29:36.799 --> 00:29:39.640
<v Speaker 2>So all of the information that Vernon had ended up

517
00:29:39.640 --> 00:29:43.200
<v Speaker 2>in my book, and I ended up like following through

518
00:29:43.200 --> 00:29:45.839
<v Speaker 2>with it. There was a lot of people, Dick grob

519
00:29:45.960 --> 00:29:48.359
<v Speaker 2>who just died. He was Elvis's chief of security. We

520
00:29:48.400 --> 00:29:50.759
<v Speaker 2>lost Dick, I don't know about sixteen eighteen months ago.

521
00:29:50.799 --> 00:29:52.519
<v Speaker 2>I did not know. Dick grab was one of the

522
00:29:52.559 --> 00:29:55.720
<v Speaker 2>only Memphis Mafia members that I didn't know. He wrote

523
00:29:55.720 --> 00:29:59.960
<v Speaker 2>the book The Elvis Conspiracy. He was on duty there

524
00:30:00.240 --> 00:30:04.079
<v Speaker 2>night and he wrote in his book some of the

525
00:30:04.119 --> 00:30:09.839
<v Speaker 2>things were extremely strange. He completely believed that Elvis was murdered.

526
00:30:10.880 --> 00:30:12.880
<v Speaker 2>I didn't. I didn't know this. I published this book

527
00:30:12.920 --> 00:30:14.759
<v Speaker 2>and then all these people come out of the woodwork. Yeah,

528
00:30:14.799 --> 00:30:16.359
<v Speaker 2>what a great book. We knew he was murdered too,

529
00:30:16.359 --> 00:30:20.480
<v Speaker 2>and he got to be kidding me. Ginger Alden. One

530
00:30:20.480 --> 00:30:24.119
<v Speaker 2>of the quotes that she has said that they were

531
00:30:24.160 --> 00:30:28.000
<v Speaker 2>talking about foul play when they were investigating Graceland, and

532
00:30:28.039 --> 00:30:31.240
<v Speaker 2>she said she couldn't rule it out. Vernon was questioning her,

533
00:30:31.240 --> 00:30:33.640
<v Speaker 2>and you know, I mean she couldn't. She couldn't rule

534
00:30:33.640 --> 00:30:36.519
<v Speaker 2>it out. Susannah Lee. This is a very interesting story.

535
00:30:36.839 --> 00:30:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Susannah Lee was Elvis's co star in Paradise Hawaiian Style,

536
00:30:41.119 --> 00:30:45.799
<v Speaker 2>Super Nice Lady sixteens, a horrible batter with battle with

537
00:30:45.880 --> 00:30:54.160
<v Speaker 2>liver cancer. And she said she knew and immediately that

538
00:30:54.240 --> 00:30:59.400
<v Speaker 2>Elvis was that Elvis had been murdered. And she said

539
00:30:59.440 --> 00:31:01.920
<v Speaker 2>she was terror to do the scenes with him because

540
00:31:01.960 --> 00:31:04.799
<v Speaker 2>she had just left a movie with someone else and

541
00:31:04.839 --> 00:31:06.720
<v Speaker 2>they were not very nice. And Elvis is the biggest

542
00:31:06.720 --> 00:31:10.000
<v Speaker 2>star in the world. Elvis Presley was more famous than

543
00:31:10.039 --> 00:31:11.519
<v Speaker 2>anybody who's ever been famous.

544
00:31:12.680 --> 00:31:15.160
<v Speaker 1>Average people the King, right, that was his nickname.

545
00:31:16.160 --> 00:31:21.119
<v Speaker 2>You're not kidding. Average people talk about meeting celebrities. Celebrity talk,

546
00:31:21.680 --> 00:31:25.880
<v Speaker 2>celebrities talk about meeting Elvis. I mean, this is he's

547
00:31:25.920 --> 00:31:30.039
<v Speaker 2>the King, he really is. So she's terrified to meet him.

548
00:31:30.039 --> 00:31:32.720
<v Speaker 2>And the first three or four scenes that she did

549
00:31:32.880 --> 00:31:37.240
<v Speaker 2>weren't even with Elvis. They're with body doubles. There were

550
00:31:37.279 --> 00:31:40.759
<v Speaker 2>two body doubles, one named Matt and one named John.

551
00:31:41.559 --> 00:31:43.599
<v Speaker 2>And she did tell me their last names, but it's

552
00:31:43.680 --> 00:31:46.720
<v Speaker 2>long gone now I can't recall. But she said they

553
00:31:46.759 --> 00:31:50.039
<v Speaker 2>were the same size. They were surgically altered to look

554
00:31:50.119 --> 00:31:54.839
<v Speaker 2>like Elvis. Wow. And you know, like I mean, obviously

555
00:31:54.960 --> 00:31:58.839
<v Speaker 2>you go to you know, fun Ackapoco. Elvis was not

556
00:31:58.920 --> 00:32:02.200
<v Speaker 2>diving off those cliffs. I got news for you. There

557
00:32:02.200 --> 00:32:04.839
<v Speaker 2>were stunt men in body doubles. And she said the

558
00:32:04.880 --> 00:32:08.920
<v Speaker 2>movie was well under way before she met Elvis. And

559
00:32:09.000 --> 00:32:11.680
<v Speaker 2>if you look at Paradise Hawaiian Style, there is a

560
00:32:11.680 --> 00:32:15.319
<v Speaker 2>photograph of her where their arms around Elvis. And it's

561
00:32:15.319 --> 00:32:17.240
<v Speaker 2>a photograph and it's who we're looking at the camera.

562
00:32:17.319 --> 00:32:21.799
<v Speaker 2>Except there's problem with that. That's not Elvis. This guy

563
00:32:21.920 --> 00:32:25.599
<v Speaker 2>his very big jowels. He had a U face shape

564
00:32:25.960 --> 00:32:29.640
<v Speaker 2>or a U shaped face. Elvis had a very triangular face.

565
00:32:30.319 --> 00:32:33.400
<v Speaker 2>So this Elvis is a live thing. This is who

566
00:32:33.440 --> 00:32:38.680
<v Speaker 2>these people are seeing. These people are of that age

567
00:32:39.440 --> 00:32:42.079
<v Speaker 2>after Elvis died, and I believe me, I wish he

568
00:32:42.160 --> 00:32:45.240
<v Speaker 2>was still alive. The man is not alive. If he is,

569
00:32:45.279 --> 00:32:48.599
<v Speaker 2>he's walking around without most of his vital organs because

570
00:32:48.640 --> 00:32:51.319
<v Speaker 2>the doctors still have him in dry ice or they

571
00:32:51.319 --> 00:32:54.160
<v Speaker 2>did last time. I knew this is who these people

572
00:32:54.200 --> 00:32:56.200
<v Speaker 2>are seeing. And I used to I used to be

573
00:32:56.240 --> 00:32:59.039
<v Speaker 2>part of that. Elvis is a live group because they

574
00:32:59.039 --> 00:33:02.480
<v Speaker 2>are finding things, They are finding evidence to suggest that

575
00:33:02.519 --> 00:33:07.279
<v Speaker 2>he's alive. Problem is the evidence that they're finding has

576
00:33:07.319 --> 00:33:11.400
<v Speaker 2>been planted there for them to find, because the more

577
00:33:11.440 --> 00:33:14.519
<v Speaker 2>time we spend looking for Elvis at Burger King, the

578
00:33:14.599 --> 00:33:18.359
<v Speaker 2>less time we spent solving this murder. So they have

579
00:33:18.440 --> 00:33:21.079
<v Speaker 2>to let this go and they have to get on

580
00:33:21.200 --> 00:33:24.720
<v Speaker 2>board with the rest of the body of evidence. And

581
00:33:24.759 --> 00:33:26.359
<v Speaker 2>I was in that camp for a long time too,

582
00:33:26.440 --> 00:33:29.880
<v Speaker 2>until I saw the whole rest of the story. And

583
00:33:29.960 --> 00:33:32.519
<v Speaker 2>now I realize, you know how badly they want him.

584
00:33:32.640 --> 00:33:34.240
<v Speaker 2>They wanted them dead, and it got to the point

585
00:33:34.279 --> 00:33:39.559
<v Speaker 2>where they were coming after him so hard that right

586
00:33:39.599 --> 00:33:43.599
<v Speaker 2>after Aloha from Hawaii February eighteenth, Elvis is on stage

587
00:33:43.599 --> 00:33:51.680
<v Speaker 2>in Vegas and four guys rushed the stage. I mean,

588
00:33:51.720 --> 00:33:59.200
<v Speaker 2>this is this is substantial. So a couple guys. Elvis

589
00:33:59.200 --> 00:34:01.720
<v Speaker 2>had been getting death frats and now it's getting physical.

590
00:34:01.759 --> 00:34:06.519
<v Speaker 2>Now it's really ratcheting up. So Elvis had his security

591
00:34:06.559 --> 00:34:08.760
<v Speaker 2>crew around him all the time, and they were behind

592
00:34:08.760 --> 00:34:14.000
<v Speaker 2>the curtain watching the crowd just for this reason. You know,

593
00:34:14.920 --> 00:34:17.960
<v Speaker 2>four guys rushed the stage. Three of them got taken

594
00:34:18.000 --> 00:34:20.280
<v Speaker 2>out by the bodyguards. One of them got to Elvis,

595
00:34:21.400 --> 00:34:23.519
<v Speaker 2>and Elvis is off to the left hand side of

596
00:34:23.559 --> 00:34:26.079
<v Speaker 2>the stage really didn't he wasn't paying attention, you know,

597
00:34:26.079 --> 00:34:28.239
<v Speaker 2>he was probably kissing some girl or some stupid thing.

598
00:34:29.159 --> 00:34:32.320
<v Speaker 2>So when he turns around, there's this guy you know,

599
00:34:32.559 --> 00:34:35.159
<v Speaker 2>coming after him, and Elvis footswept him into the crowd.

600
00:34:36.079 --> 00:34:40.000
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this is and there was somebody who had

601
00:34:40.119 --> 00:34:42.320
<v Speaker 2>video of that that I was trying to buy the

602
00:34:42.400 --> 00:34:44.960
<v Speaker 2>rights to that video, and I kind of fell apart.

603
00:34:44.960 --> 00:34:48.920
<v Speaker 2>They wouldn't sell. But I mean, this isn't conspiracy talk,

604
00:34:49.000 --> 00:34:53.280
<v Speaker 2>this is real talk. So they really wanted Elvis Presley

605
00:34:53.360 --> 00:34:57.119
<v Speaker 2>dead for a lot of reasons. You know, he started

606
00:34:57.119 --> 00:35:02.079
<v Speaker 2>to cancel shows he had. He went on the Alis

607
00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:06.039
<v Speaker 2>with Colonel Parker, and Elvis Presley was standing in the

608
00:35:06.079 --> 00:35:13.119
<v Speaker 2>way of a treasure trove of profits. They started box

609
00:35:13.199 --> 00:35:17.119
<v Speaker 2>Car Enterprises in nineteen seventy four, which was kind of

610
00:35:17.199 --> 00:35:23.000
<v Speaker 2>like Elvis Presley Enterprises, way before Elvis Presley Enterprises. So

611
00:35:25.719 --> 00:35:29.760
<v Speaker 2>what that did is it was designed to make make

612
00:35:29.800 --> 00:35:34.280
<v Speaker 2>money off his image, off his name and Elvis got

613
00:35:34.280 --> 00:35:36.599
<v Speaker 2>a piece of it, but like most of Colonel Parker's

614
00:35:36.599 --> 00:35:41.599
<v Speaker 2>business dealings, it was grossly unfair to Elvis. So you

615
00:35:41.719 --> 00:35:46.519
<v Speaker 2>have to ask yourself. August sixteenth, nineteen seventy seven year old,

616
00:35:46.559 --> 00:35:48.480
<v Speaker 2>like I am, you'll know where you were when this happened,

617
00:35:48.480 --> 00:35:52.039
<v Speaker 2>because the world gassed, right, all right?

618
00:35:52.280 --> 00:35:55.639
<v Speaker 1>How did they like Diana's Yeah, people remember when they were.

619
00:35:56.119 --> 00:35:58.360
<v Speaker 2>How did they have all the records printed up Rady

620
00:35:58.400 --> 00:36:01.159
<v Speaker 2>to sell? How did they have all all the t

621
00:36:01.320 --> 00:36:05.239
<v Speaker 2>shirts printed up in front of Graceland to sell? If

622
00:36:05.320 --> 00:36:06.880
<v Speaker 2>they didn't know he was going to be murdered or

623
00:36:06.880 --> 00:36:09.599
<v Speaker 2>if he wasn't you know, I mean this is nineteen

624
00:36:09.639 --> 00:36:14.199
<v Speaker 2>seventy seven. It's a little hard to today with more technology.

625
00:36:14.239 --> 00:36:16.280
<v Speaker 2>I mean you can you can spin off a record

626
00:36:16.400 --> 00:36:20.440
<v Speaker 2>like that. It takes a whis in nineteen seventy seven.

627
00:36:20.480 --> 00:36:25.239
<v Speaker 2>I mean this is vinyl. So you have to ask yourself,

628
00:36:25.760 --> 00:36:28.559
<v Speaker 2>if you're a conspiracy person or not, how the hell

629
00:36:28.599 --> 00:36:31.400
<v Speaker 2>did they have all of them printed way ahead of time?

630
00:36:32.800 --> 00:36:35.079
<v Speaker 2>It's very interesting, very interesting question.

631
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<v Speaker 1>Very interesting. Speaking of questions, somebody has a question for you.

632
00:36:39.119 --> 00:36:44.280
<v Speaker 1>Can you answer, Kindnesscake asking Steven elaborate on any FBI

633
00:36:44.400 --> 00:36:45.679
<v Speaker 1>involvement please.

634
00:36:49.079 --> 00:36:52.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry. Involvement by Elvis, I mean just.

635
00:36:52.039 --> 00:36:55.920
<v Speaker 1>In the situation like was he affiliated with the FBI

636
00:36:56.039 --> 00:36:56.639
<v Speaker 1>or anything like that.

637
00:36:57.480 --> 00:37:02.760
<v Speaker 2>That was definitely became an informant for the FBI or there.

638
00:37:02.960 --> 00:37:05.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if it was specifically for the FBI,

639
00:37:05.239 --> 00:37:08.840
<v Speaker 2>but he had a great working relationship with Nixon and

640
00:37:09.960 --> 00:37:15.239
<v Speaker 2>in those types of FBI, you know, Alphabet agency, you

641
00:37:15.280 --> 00:37:18.360
<v Speaker 2>know Alphabet agencies, and our law enforcement because you have

642
00:37:18.440 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 2>to realize, we had just gone through the radical sixties,

643
00:37:22.320 --> 00:37:25.639
<v Speaker 2>We went through the Vietnam protests, and people were sick

644
00:37:25.719 --> 00:37:29.159
<v Speaker 2>of it, and Elvis was very patriotic and he wanted

645
00:37:29.159 --> 00:37:31.119
<v Speaker 2>to do his part. He wanted to take down this

646
00:37:31.280 --> 00:37:36.079
<v Speaker 2>drug element because Elvis had a daughter and he was

647
00:37:36.119 --> 00:37:38.280
<v Speaker 2>worried about what was coming up in America. He didn't

648
00:37:38.280 --> 00:37:41.480
<v Speaker 2>want his daughter to grow up in that America. So

649
00:37:43.440 --> 00:37:46.360
<v Speaker 2>he definitely was uh, you know, he got his Federal

650
00:37:46.440 --> 00:37:49.559
<v Speaker 2>Narcotics badch for lots and lots of reasons. And there

651
00:37:49.559 --> 00:37:52.039
<v Speaker 2>are pictures in my book. Again, Oh, let's talk about

652
00:37:52.079 --> 00:37:53.519
<v Speaker 2>getting the book. I mean, if you really want to

653
00:37:53.519 --> 00:37:58.079
<v Speaker 2>get this, grab it. They're going away, actually physical books

654
00:37:58.079 --> 00:38:01.599
<v Speaker 2>are going away. I'm I have a handful left, and

655
00:38:01.639 --> 00:38:03.719
<v Speaker 2>when they're gone, they're gone. I'm going all digital. I've

656
00:38:03.719 --> 00:38:07.400
<v Speaker 2>had it with physical books. I'm tired of supply chain issues.

657
00:38:07.480 --> 00:38:09.719
<v Speaker 2>I'm tired of the price bouncing all around, and it's

658
00:38:09.719 --> 00:38:11.360
<v Speaker 2>getting to the point where i have to sell a

659
00:38:11.360 --> 00:38:14.199
<v Speaker 2>book for thirty bucks, and I'm not going to do that,

660
00:38:15.039 --> 00:38:18.119
<v Speaker 2>you know, I uh, I just I've just had it

661
00:38:18.119 --> 00:38:20.280
<v Speaker 2>with the entire thing. So I'm going all ebook an

662
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:24.440
<v Speaker 2>audiobook very soon. So if you want your physical books

663
00:38:24.440 --> 00:38:27.360
<v Speaker 2>to get them, go to whom murdered books dot com

664
00:38:27.679 --> 00:38:29.840
<v Speaker 2>and I'll leave an autographic for you.

665
00:38:30.719 --> 00:38:33.480
<v Speaker 1>And I've got an autograph copy right here myself.

666
00:38:33.519 --> 00:38:36.480
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I mean that said, I'm done with physical books.

667
00:38:36.480 --> 00:38:38.960
<v Speaker 2>I get a handful left, and when they're gone, they're gone.

668
00:38:40.679 --> 00:38:47.800
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, it was the nerve with this book. I

669
00:38:47.920 --> 00:38:52.119
<v Speaker 2>was on television in Memphis twice, well one, two, three times,

670
00:38:53.000 --> 00:38:56.679
<v Speaker 2>and I was invited back a few times, and I

671
00:38:56.800 --> 00:39:01.000
<v Speaker 2>just never went. I was coming off the studio and

672
00:39:01.079 --> 00:39:04.800
<v Speaker 2>I was talking about the book, and it was Elvis Week,

673
00:39:04.840 --> 00:39:06.920
<v Speaker 2>which they used to call Death Week, but now they've

674
00:39:07.320 --> 00:39:09.840
<v Speaker 2>guess they they shopped it around on Elvis Week, sounded

675
00:39:09.920 --> 00:39:12.000
<v Speaker 2>much better, so they call it Elvis week. Now it

676
00:39:12.519 --> 00:39:15.039
<v Speaker 2>was a week he died. So I'm coming out of

677
00:39:16.360 --> 00:39:21.119
<v Speaker 2>the studio and I'm walking in my car and this

678
00:39:21.280 --> 00:39:24.960
<v Speaker 2>police officer walks up to me and this guy. You know,

679
00:39:25.039 --> 00:39:30.760
<v Speaker 2>I'm no tiny guy, I'm six three. This guy is gigantic.

680
00:39:30.840 --> 00:39:32.800
<v Speaker 2>I mean, this dude looked like a sheet of plywood,

681
00:39:33.119 --> 00:39:35.960
<v Speaker 2>all right, and he's dressed like a cop. And he

682
00:39:36.119 --> 00:39:37.800
<v Speaker 2>asks me, He says, are you the one that was

683
00:39:37.880 --> 00:39:41.159
<v Speaker 2>just on television talking about Elvis's murder? And I said, yes,

684
00:39:41.199 --> 00:39:43.000
<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking this guy wants a book or an autograph

685
00:39:43.119 --> 00:39:46.519
<v Speaker 2>or something. The guy turned sideways and puts his thumb

686
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:50.159
<v Speaker 2>on the top of his holster. I said, if I

687
00:39:50.199 --> 00:39:54.000
<v Speaker 2>were you, I wouldn't start naming names. And man, I

688
00:39:54.000 --> 00:39:56.920
<v Speaker 2>ain't never been so scared before in my life. So

689
00:39:59.280 --> 00:40:05.239
<v Speaker 2>there's definitely something in Graceland or I'm sorry, in Memphis specific.

690
00:40:05.400 --> 00:40:07.360
<v Speaker 2>There are people who know a lot of things down

691
00:40:07.360 --> 00:40:10.239
<v Speaker 2>there and they're not talking. Susanna Lee, I have to

692
00:40:10.280 --> 00:40:13.920
<v Speaker 2>come back to this story. Susanna Lee made the mistake.

693
00:40:14.199 --> 00:40:16.800
<v Speaker 2>She was great friends with Al but she lived in Memphis,

694
00:40:17.000 --> 00:40:21.360
<v Speaker 2>and she was great friends of his father. Elvis died,

695
00:40:21.760 --> 00:40:27.639
<v Speaker 2>Graceland was and she was helping Vernon go through all

696
00:40:27.679 --> 00:40:31.079
<v Speaker 2>of this, because Vernon wasn't in great health either. So

697
00:40:32.159 --> 00:40:34.679
<v Speaker 2>she made the mistake of going on television in nineteen

698
00:40:34.760 --> 00:40:37.920
<v Speaker 2>seventy eight saying, when are we going to solve the

699
00:40:38.000 --> 00:40:41.639
<v Speaker 2>murder of Elvis Prizley that everybody knows happened, but no

700
00:40:41.639 --> 00:40:45.039
<v Speaker 2>one's talking about. As a matter of fact, even today,

701
00:40:45.199 --> 00:40:48.280
<v Speaker 2>there are whispers around Graceland with some of the employees,

702
00:40:48.280 --> 00:40:49.639
<v Speaker 2>and I know their names, and I'm not going to

703
00:40:49.719 --> 00:40:54.360
<v Speaker 2>repeat them because I can't. They kind of know something happened.

704
00:40:54.480 --> 00:40:57.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not status quo. Why do you think they don't

705
00:40:57.039 --> 00:41:00.400
<v Speaker 2>want you upstairs at Graceland. You can't start walking through

706
00:41:00.400 --> 00:41:03.639
<v Speaker 2>a crime scene. This is the big case in history,

707
00:41:04.360 --> 00:41:08.559
<v Speaker 2>and no one's talking about it anyway. Susana Lee mentions it,

708
00:41:08.880 --> 00:41:15.440
<v Speaker 2>and all of a sudden, they they shot. Somebody shot

709
00:41:15.480 --> 00:41:17.920
<v Speaker 2>at her a couple of times. They clipped their brake lines.

710
00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:22.960
<v Speaker 2>Somebody jumped the wall to her condo. And she was

711
00:41:23.000 --> 00:41:27.119
<v Speaker 2>a big dog lover and she had seven dogs, and

712
00:41:27.239 --> 00:41:30.960
<v Speaker 2>they killed six of her dogs. And one of the

713
00:41:31.000 --> 00:41:34.039
<v Speaker 2>dogs was out in the garden and the guy didn't

714
00:41:34.079 --> 00:41:37.159
<v Speaker 2>see it, and the other dog just made mince meat

715
00:41:37.199 --> 00:41:40.599
<v Speaker 2>out of the guy. He got prosecuted. They finally stopped

716
00:41:40.599 --> 00:41:44.480
<v Speaker 2>the subtle tactics and just burned her house down. I

717
00:41:44.480 --> 00:41:46.440
<v Speaker 2>mean this is she really paid a hell of a price.

718
00:41:46.519 --> 00:41:48.039
<v Speaker 2>And she was in the middle of writing. She has

719
00:41:48.119 --> 00:41:53.760
<v Speaker 2>one book out, Paradise Susanna style. Actually it's been a

720
00:41:53.760 --> 00:41:55.480
<v Speaker 2>long time ago, and she was in the middle of it.

721
00:41:55.719 --> 00:41:58.360
<v Speaker 2>She was right at the end of publishing her last

722
00:41:58.440 --> 00:42:04.360
<v Speaker 2>book about his murder. And we lost her. And I

723
00:42:04.480 --> 00:42:07.079
<v Speaker 2>was told that I can't do anything with it, obviously,

724
00:42:07.199 --> 00:42:12.239
<v Speaker 2>But people out there know the truth for sure. They're

725
00:42:12.280 --> 00:42:14.440
<v Speaker 2>just not talking and I think they're afraid to talk.

726
00:42:15.000 --> 00:42:17.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, they've probably been threatened. Right, you talked about Jared Parker.

727
00:42:18.000 --> 00:42:20.800
<v Speaker 1>Some guy took some bullets too, right. Yeah.

728
00:42:20.880 --> 00:42:23.400
<v Speaker 2>On the back of that book, there is a fella

729
00:42:23.679 --> 00:42:27.199
<v Speaker 2>who is there's a picture of him murdered and bleeding,

730
00:42:27.280 --> 00:42:33.360
<v Speaker 2>and his name is Jared Parker. Jared Parker. You can't

731
00:42:33.400 --> 00:42:36.199
<v Speaker 2>make this up. Jared Parker was going to be the

732
00:42:36.280 --> 00:42:39.599
<v Speaker 2>keynote speaker at an annual Elvis Presley conference in two

733
00:42:39.639 --> 00:42:43.519
<v Speaker 2>thousand and seven, I think, and he had purchased at

734
00:42:43.519 --> 00:42:50.920
<v Speaker 2>auction letters that Elvis Presley had written saying that people

735
00:42:50.920 --> 00:42:53.400
<v Speaker 2>were following him and you know, he was worried about

736
00:42:53.440 --> 00:42:57.119
<v Speaker 2>his safety and so forth on the way to give

737
00:42:57.159 --> 00:43:01.719
<v Speaker 2>this keynote speech or this keynote dress. The guy gets murdered,

738
00:43:02.360 --> 00:43:06.800
<v Speaker 2>and guess what, They steal the letters that he had

739
00:43:06.800 --> 00:43:12.039
<v Speaker 2>bought saying that that Elvis had you know and.

740
00:43:14.480 --> 00:43:17.440
<v Speaker 1>Steve were at the forty five minute mark. The best

741
00:43:17.440 --> 00:43:19.920
<v Speaker 1>place to get the book is through who murder books

742
00:43:19.960 --> 00:43:21.079
<v Speaker 1>dot com? Is that correct?

743
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:26.039
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, that's my website. I'm sure that that's the cheapest

744
00:43:26.039 --> 00:43:28.159
<v Speaker 2>place to get it. Don't even bother looking at any

745
00:43:28.159 --> 00:43:30.960
<v Speaker 2>other places I saw it on. I saw it somewhere

746
00:43:31.000 --> 00:43:34.400
<v Speaker 2>for sale for fourteen hundred bucks. It's insane. Why would

747
00:43:34.440 --> 00:43:37.760
<v Speaker 2>anybody pay that for anybody's book unless you're, you know,

748
00:43:37.920 --> 00:43:40.679
<v Speaker 2>somebody much more famous than I am. Go to murder

749
00:43:40.760 --> 00:43:44.159
<v Speaker 2>books dot com if you want me to send it

750
00:43:44.199 --> 00:43:46.920
<v Speaker 2>to autographic to somebody, if it's somebody's birth there or something,

751
00:43:46.960 --> 00:43:49.320
<v Speaker 2>I'll do it, no problem. I'd like to get rid

752
00:43:49.400 --> 00:43:51.400
<v Speaker 2>of the handful of books I have left so I

753
00:43:51.440 --> 00:43:54.599
<v Speaker 2>can go all audiobook now. No, so I am reading

754
00:43:54.639 --> 00:43:56.679
<v Speaker 2>my own my own audiobooks.

755
00:43:56.960 --> 00:43:58.639
<v Speaker 1>Right, And there's a lot more in this book. You

756
00:43:58.639 --> 00:44:02.079
<v Speaker 1>can approach the same you approach the subject of his

757
00:44:02.280 --> 00:44:04.760
<v Speaker 1>murder the same way you did Diana, So you take

758
00:44:04.800 --> 00:44:08.880
<v Speaker 1>out anybody who can't be So it's like a proper investigative,

759
00:44:08.960 --> 00:44:12.679
<v Speaker 1>progressive approach. So I highly recommend people check out this book.

760
00:44:12.880 --> 00:44:14.840
<v Speaker 1>Is there anything you'd like to add or anything, I'm missy.

761
00:44:15.880 --> 00:44:18.000
<v Speaker 2>I just wanted to tell everybody that how I do

762
00:44:18.119 --> 00:44:21.000
<v Speaker 2>my books is I tell the story in the first

763
00:44:21.039 --> 00:44:25.079
<v Speaker 2>two chapters, and then I tell the official fiction, and

764
00:44:25.119 --> 00:44:27.119
<v Speaker 2>then I go back with the questions and I answer

765
00:44:27.119 --> 00:44:29.599
<v Speaker 2>the questions, and I come up with a pool of suspects,

766
00:44:30.679 --> 00:44:34.480
<v Speaker 2>and I run the suspects through an investigation. Motive means

767
00:44:34.480 --> 00:44:39.159
<v Speaker 2>an opportunity, So basically that's what writes the book. You know,

768
00:44:39.199 --> 00:44:42.119
<v Speaker 2>I'm kind of like a sculptor who just chips away

769
00:44:42.400 --> 00:44:47.599
<v Speaker 2>everything that you know is unnecessary to be seen. So

770
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:50.639
<v Speaker 2>all of my books are written like that. There's six chapters,

771
00:44:50.679 --> 00:44:54.039
<v Speaker 2>around two hundred pages. They're quick, easy reads. I keep

772
00:44:54.039 --> 00:44:57.599
<v Speaker 2>them short because I know people are busy. Okay, my

773
00:44:57.639 --> 00:45:03.039
<v Speaker 2>next book is going to be on Nikola Tesla. It's

774
00:45:03.079 --> 00:45:06.079
<v Speaker 2>amazing to me how Nikola Tesla, who is a guy

775
00:45:06.159 --> 00:45:11.800
<v Speaker 2>who didn't really care about financial gain, how he stepped

776
00:45:11.840 --> 00:45:15.079
<v Speaker 2>on so many people's toes with great power, and in

777
00:45:15.119 --> 00:45:18.159
<v Speaker 2>the end they got him and stole all of his information.

778
00:45:18.440 --> 00:45:22.360
<v Speaker 2>And we're using Wi Fi today because of Nicola Tesla. Wow,

779
00:45:22.480 --> 00:45:24.840
<v Speaker 2>he was going to give it away today, they're charging

780
00:45:24.880 --> 00:45:26.960
<v Speaker 2>for it. That's going to be a hell of a book.

781
00:45:28.159 --> 00:45:30.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, check it out again. The author's name is Steve

782
00:45:30.320 --> 00:45:32.920
<v Speaker 1>Hubaney and I will put the link to his website

783
00:45:32.960 --> 00:45:35.679
<v Speaker 1>who murdered books dot com in the show notes, Steve,

784
00:45:35.719 --> 00:45:36.679
<v Speaker 1>thanks so much for your time.

785
00:45:37.039 --> 00:45:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Hey, it's always a pleasure. Thanks for having me stay there.

786
00:45:40.639 --> 00:45:40.679
<v Speaker 2>The