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Speaker 3: All right, just taking care of some things that pertain
Speaker 3: to the university. Couple sionees for the softball team, whoever
Speaker 3: was it. Jalen Adams was from Iowa. I believe she
Speaker 3: made the second second team All Conference, All Big Ten,
Speaker 3: All Big Ten. And then Janee Barry from Indiana, she
Speaker 3: she came through. There was also a four star. I
Speaker 3: don't know if this one's been mentioned, but Riley Holder
Speaker 3: from the Impact the Gold Organization also signed with the
Speaker 3: softball team. But I mean good signs.
Speaker 4: They mean they ranked her as a four star. They
Speaker 4: actually had the star ranking for that on on three
Speaker 4: or on three Okay, okay, okay. Back when I was
Speaker 4: really covering softball, you would see just recruiting rankings, and
Speaker 4: they were so scattered really all that, Like carl Scoopen
Speaker 4: was unranked oh Man on one service, and then she
Speaker 4: was forty eighth on the other.
Speaker 3: It's like okay, well that's a top ten player.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: And they had one girl that was in the top
Speaker 4: ten that never played. So yeah, yeah, very scattered rankings.
Speaker 4: Usually Tara goes.
Speaker 3: I mean, I guess probably like getting more down to
Speaker 3: it just because like there's more money getting pumped into it,
Speaker 3: I'd assume, yeah, keeping it going. A new track and
Speaker 3: field and cross country ghost got announced today. Andrew Dubbs. Right,
Speaker 3: hopefully he can bring some dubs to the to the tractor.
Speaker 3: Sorry I was coming. He was right there. Dude was
Speaker 3: right there. You've been hanging around me too much?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 3: Maybe sorry? Maybe. Also we mentioned the the recruit the
Speaker 3: football recruits got Malachi Joiner, three star in state offensive
Speaker 3: lineman that signed last night this morning, sixteen hours ago
Speaker 3: last time I saw. So yeah, yeah, we'll just we'll
Speaker 3: just call it last night then, alright, Oh, this is
Speaker 3: a cool one. Colton Smith, the tennis player, reached the
Speaker 3: final of the Birmingham Challenger in his first professional grass
Speaker 3: tournament and lost or what uh, it or has reached it.
Speaker 3: I think it's just reached as of now. Still play. Nope.
Speaker 3: So they got they final matches got suspended due to weather. Okay,
Speaker 3: so he got there and then they didn't. Yeah, they
Speaker 3: haven't played yet. So yeah, that's that's gonna be one
Speaker 3: to look out for. Getting onto horse racing, getting on
Speaker 3: into the track. Sovereignty journalism once again. Yeah, that was crazy.
Speaker 3: I had journalism all the way. Yeah, well got some
Speaker 3: money back. It was okay, it was a good race.
Speaker 3: Well it was the It was the same top three
Speaker 3: from from the Derby because Basic came in third, I
Speaker 3: believe r Yeah, so that's a that was an interesting,
Speaker 3: good race. Nice race. The Diamondbacks they play they play
Speaker 3: the Mariners. Yeah, there's a lot of people calling for
Speaker 3: that coach's job. Man deserves it. Really, how long.
Speaker 2: Have you been there?
Speaker 4: Nine years and one playoff appearance? You probably a few
Speaker 4: times to playoff appearance.
Speaker 3: I'm going this weekend. I'm watching the game on Sunday.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry.
Speaker 4: You gotta spend your money driving up there the parking, Yeah,
Speaker 4: its father's dam.
Speaker 3: But to stay over the night.
Speaker 4: Oh well there that's true as well. Happy Father's Day.
Speaker 4: For that, you know, but yeah, no, I mean Tory Lavello.
Speaker 4: They made the World Series twenty twenty three, but they
Speaker 4: ended the seasonly crap what They ended that season on
Speaker 4: a four game losing street before the playoffs.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Last last year, Uh, they lost the series to the Rockies.
Speaker 4: They blew an eight nothing lead to the Brewers got
Speaker 4: swept by the Padres, miss missing the playoffs by one
Speaker 4: game after having a seven game lead, to only two
Speaker 4: postgame postseason appearances. And this season just very underwhelming and
Speaker 4: after nine years, yeah, you know, if it's not working.
Speaker 3: I remember, like I think last week or maybe a
Speaker 3: week and a half ago, there was a lot of
Speaker 3: people like questioning his decision about pitching Corbyn Burns on
Speaker 3: like a maybe, like the very like brink of his rest,
Speaker 3: of when he was supposed to rest, or like like
Speaker 3: a day early.
Speaker 4: Well what happened was they were deciding between Gallon and
Speaker 4: Corbyn Burns who was going to be the opening days starter.
Speaker 4: Corbyn Burns is the better pitcher these days. He should
Speaker 4: have been the opening day start, but they gave it
Speaker 4: to Gallen out of respect. But Burns had his starts
Speaker 4: lined up perfectly for that, so it pushed him back,
Speaker 4: and then they had to push his other start, so
Speaker 4: it messed up his rhythm. At the beginning of the season,
Speaker 4: he got off on a bumpy start, had a couple issues,
Speaker 4: got back on track, and now you're having Tommy John.
Speaker 4: I'm not saying that caused to Tommy John. Who knows
Speaker 4: how it's caused. It's unpredictable. But decisions in the bullpen,
Speaker 4: decisions with the lineups.
Speaker 3: Who who would you want to manage that team? You know?
Speaker 4: I like Mark de rosa MLB network. He manages Team
Speaker 4: USA last couple of years, bringing in a fresh face.
Speaker 4: He's a young guy that knows the game very well.
Speaker 4: Former player Miguel Montero is in the system and is
Speaker 4: regarded as a guy potentially in waiting. He's like in
Speaker 4: the front office like Craig Counsel was in the front
Speaker 4: office for Milwaukee. But honestly, I don't know if it's
Speaker 4: a matter of who, because there's usually a lot of
Speaker 4: names that nobody hears about, like bench coaches and stuff
Speaker 4: like that, like Tory was. But after hearing the same
Speaker 4: red Rick and just seeing how the players have played,
Speaker 4: you got blown out by Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: You got blown out by the Rockies. You got you need.
Speaker 2: That's not good if you been getting blown up by
Speaker 2: Pittsburgh and Colorado.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 4: The other day against the Reds, he lost one to thirteen. Yeah,
Speaker 4: after losing the first game of a double header because
Speaker 4: of a rain to Land. Then he got whooped in
Speaker 4: the last game. So it is that the efforts is
Speaker 4: out there. Tickets on sale, right, dude.
Speaker 3: That was a crazy throw by Ellie though over that
Speaker 3: was over the weekend, right, you know what.
Speaker 4: I was listening on radio, so I was working side
Speaker 4: and really bro yeah, yeah, yeah, he's that on Sunday or.
Speaker 3: Uh, I think what Sunday or Saturday, like just like
Speaker 3: probably like shallow outfield just hosed man the fast guy, yes, yeah,
Speaker 3: just absolutely hosed them from second. It was it was crazy.
Speaker 3: I think the ball they said like one of like yeah,
Speaker 3: he just yeah, that guy is a rocket for an
Speaker 3: arm keeping it going though. Finals Game two happened on
Speaker 3: Sunday yesterday.
Speaker 2: I think the guys, the UI guys combined like for
Speaker 2: twenty four points blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: They were out of it the whole game though. Yeah yeah, yeah,
Speaker 3: final score was one twenty three to one oh seven.
Speaker 3: Not even that close. Probably, No, mean they stretched it.
Speaker 3: They stretched it a little bit. I was, I was,
Speaker 3: I wasn't watching. I was keeping up with the score
Speaker 3: just because it's like, I mean, that's how the Pacers are,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean. It's like they get down,
Speaker 3: they come back, make it a game at the end,
Speaker 3: and the Halliburton just steals the show usually.
Speaker 4: And I don't want to say every game doesn't matter,
Speaker 4: but you did your job. You stole one. Yeah, all right,
Speaker 4: yeah for sure, So just handle business at home.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And then there was a there was a quote here
Speaker 3: that I was going to read, but anyways, Haliburton pretty
Speaker 3: much just saying that he needs to get off to
Speaker 3: a better start in the first half. Well then, and
Speaker 3: him and the team had nineteen turnovers in Game one's
Speaker 3: first half. I'm not sure how many they had. And
Speaker 3: this one keeping it going though, Oilers and Panthers. Man,
Speaker 3: you know, I'm not usually a hockey guy, but man,
Speaker 3: this series is bonkers, dude. I mean, first one goes
Speaker 3: so to they already played an extra game because of
Speaker 3: ot and I think in the in the first period
Speaker 3: on Friday, there were two There was like five minutes
Speaker 3: left in the first period and it's like three to
Speaker 3: two and it's just like, dude, what like I mean
Speaker 3: they know each other, you know what I mean. They're
Speaker 3: great teams obviously, but man, I don't think I'm gonna
Speaker 3: get into hockey. But I'm gonna keep up with this
Speaker 3: series very closely.
Speaker 4: But you can do it for me because they're I'm
Speaker 4: not a hockey person.
Speaker 3: Dude, I've tried. I can't do it. Too cold cold
Speaker 3: in this room. I grew up. I grew up here
Speaker 3: in Arizona. They're in.
Speaker 4: There isn't any ice out there in the Coyotes mood.
Speaker 4: You know what my thoughts were? Yeah, oh well no, yeah,
Speaker 4: I believe it. I know a lot of people were sad.
Speaker 4: People loved it, but I me too.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's I don't know, it's easier for me to
Speaker 3: watch soccer than watch hockey. So and you know what,
Speaker 3: I'm not a big soccer person, but I agree. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I don't know why because borying me right now? Are
Speaker 3: you just yelling? Sorry? And this court is one nothing
Speaker 3: after ninety minutes, Uh, Cocoa golf won the what she
Speaker 3: went the French Open and beat Sablenka to win. That
Speaker 3: would you see that the quote. Do you see the quotes.
Speaker 3: I didn't see the quotes.
Speaker 4: I saw Sablinka and her interaction with her coach while
Speaker 4: she's getting beat. She's yelling at them after every point,
Speaker 4: like what are you doing? You're the one out there
Speaker 4: on the kinnis qore.
Speaker 2: What struck me was the quotes about her about from
Speaker 2: her saying, you know, I didn't play very well today,
Speaker 2: YadA YadA.
Speaker 3: It was just not a good day.
Speaker 2: And I guess people like you know Twitter, you know,
Speaker 2: dumb dumb Twitter, criticizing for her not giving golf credit.
Speaker 2: And I'm seeing this is what we're the world that
Speaker 2: we live in now. Guess what, Although although you can
Speaker 2: go she she went back and apologized for not doing that,
Speaker 2: but I quoted I said these quotes. I'm not gonna apologize.
Speaker 2: I just didn't play well. Whether she made it look
Speaker 2: that way or whatever. I don't think I should have
Speaker 2: to apologize for saying she beat me.
Speaker 4: So she should she say, you know what, I'm just
Speaker 4: not very good.
Speaker 2: She's the exactly well that's and she apologized, you know,
Speaker 2: I should have given her more credit or whatever. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but maybe, but still, if you get beat and you
Speaker 2: didn't play well, she said. She said, I had a
Speaker 2: lot of one first turnovers. I played pretty badly.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's why I was saying this. Guess what
Speaker 2: she won? The other girl won? Okay, big deal.
Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of people on social media
Speaker 4: that shouldn't be tweeting out their opinion and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: You're exactly.
Speaker 4: They're the same people that have never played the damn
Speaker 4: darn sport. I don't know if you can say that
Speaker 4: you okay damn sport ever in their life. And they're
Speaker 4: sitting there on the couch judging everybody.
Speaker 2: So right, Well, there was another one over the weekend
Speaker 2: with Reese Angel Reese, uh I guess CBS posted and
Speaker 2: they get to ask you by Indiana get right, and
Speaker 2: they were posting it, well, Reese is doing what she did.
Speaker 2: She had a layup and she only had She had
Speaker 2: a horrible game, and they were pushing her highlight and
Speaker 2: people were saying, why are you pushing the girl high
Speaker 2: like when when they got.
Speaker 3: Killed, that's fair. Just watch the game. Just what does
Speaker 3: it matter? There was this is gonna be me, But
Speaker 3: there was a there was these guys that I don't
Speaker 3: know if they like streaming on like TikTok or like
Speaker 3: YouTube or something. But they had like a seven seven
Speaker 3: day or like seven times in a row they bet
Speaker 3: for Angel recent mister. I saw that they made a
Speaker 3: bunch of money out of that. It was live betty.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think it was pree like prop like if
Speaker 4: you picked the first bucket, who's going to score the
Speaker 4: first bucket? Is she gonna make her first bass? So no, sorry,
Speaker 4: you watch her play? How many times does it take
Speaker 4: her to put in the ball? They'll have ten rebounds?
Speaker 3: So I didn't see how much like the payout was,
Speaker 3: but yeah they what it ended on the seventh day.
Speaker 3: What happened to your guy with the prop bet I
Speaker 3: gotta see, I gotta check that out. But what's the
Speaker 3: prop up? Oh dude, this guy hit a futures parlay
Speaker 3: for the ages. He or he's opening a hit one.
Speaker 3: It was the Rodgers, the Liberty, the Eagles, and then
Speaker 3: he has Edmonton winning and okay see winning, there's coming
Speaker 3: to you another one.
Speaker 2: And no it was five five okay five and they
Speaker 2: paid that much.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and it was he probably did it like last
Speaker 3: year or something. Oh yeah, sure, but yeah, he bet
Speaker 3: like thirteen and it was like two seventy payout, like
Speaker 3: two seventy k Twitter and he can catch up for
Speaker 3: one hundred and ten and I think it was thirteen
Speaker 3: hundred That's what it was on Friday, But then thirteen dollars?
Speaker 3: Was it thirteen dollars? Yeah, thirteen dollars?
Speaker 2: I believe that five five. That seems just out.
Speaker 3: Of the world. What are the odds you're gonna hit
Speaker 3: all five? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I don't know, but they were gonna pay them one
Speaker 2: hundred and seven dollars to get out of that ticket.
Speaker 3: And I should just keep going.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 4: Look one hundred and seven dollars hundred and seven k
Speaker 4: oh yeah, yeah, see, you're the only one that's not
Speaker 4: doing I'm cashing out well.
Speaker 2: For the next well, I guess they would if if
Speaker 2: Edmonton lost, right, then it would go down more.
Speaker 3: But okay, see one, that's my point. Yeah see, and
Speaker 3: I regret check it.
Speaker 2: Check it when we have a chance, Okay, because you
Speaker 2: have some more breaking news.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, we got a most time. Yeah, we got three. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I got like three. Four minutes, the Colts reveal that
Speaker 3: they're going to transition the ownership to Ursay's daughters after
Speaker 3: he passed away. Oh, this is an interesting one. Murray's
Speaker 3: leading duke right now to go in the in their
Speaker 3: super regional.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what's the score to to zero? And I killed
Speaker 2: them last game? Yeah, you got softball softball stuff. There
Speaker 2: was one was finished in the rankings, eighteenth I think.
Speaker 3: It was, Yeah, it was eighteen. And then Devin nets
Speaker 3: was rated as the number sixth player in the country
Speaker 3: from last season from last season, right, which.
Speaker 2: I was a little bit surprised. That's to me a
Speaker 2: little high. But who's the best you think, and who's
Speaker 2: who was too? Yeah, I would say Jordie Ball three.
Speaker 3: I didn't know who.
Speaker 4: The challenge that they had the Arkansas Yeah, that's ridiculous.
Speaker 4: I'm sorry when you're doing it from both sides of
Speaker 4: the plate, for sure, I mean, well both sides.
Speaker 2: Of the to me, Jeordie balls fantastic to watch.
Speaker 4: Just just those are if those are the two best
Speaker 4: players in the sport.
Speaker 3: Yeah. And then the Tennessee pitcher Carlyn Pickett, yeah, pictures
Speaker 3: four five yeah, four okay? Yeah, and then five was
Speaker 3: Corey McMillan from Virginia Tech. Yeah.
Speaker 2: I didn't see her player then, Yeah, I mean, I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 3: It's kind of cool. I mean she she want Big
Speaker 3: twelve player, want a Big twelve Player of the Year
Speaker 3: over Nigi Kennedy. Yeah, I'm sure that didn't cause any trouble.
Speaker 2: I'm not here to cause no trouble, just here to
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Speaker 3: eighty five Bears, gotta try. I guess you got sho
Speaker 3: that's because I just know the sh just because of
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Speaker 3: Uh when he says refrigerator, what do you think of
Speaker 3: I think William Perry. Okay, yeah, no, I got I mean,
Speaker 3: I just don't know the details, you know what I'm
Speaker 3: I mean, I know the big names for the most part.
Speaker 3: But yeah, it's just like like the niche stuff like that.
Speaker 3: All right, just wrap up on this one. Nick Chubb
Speaker 3: signed a deal with the Texans today after blowing out
Speaker 3: his kne last year.
Speaker 4: Yeah, so you know that's going to be a pretty
Speaker 4: good backfield. Joe Mixon's a solid back and he got
Speaker 4: banged up at the end of last season, and whatever
Speaker 4: you get out of out of Chum, that's going to
Speaker 4: be a plus. Yeah, he's not going to be the
Speaker 4: number one back.
Speaker 3: So yeah, exactly, take some load off Bruce, Bruce, the lineman,
Speaker 3: the linebackers, all that, all that good stuff. But that's cool.
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Speaker 2: Hey, welcome back to I'm the Ball here on Fox
Speaker 2: Sports fourteen fifty I'm Steve Rivera and today is Troy
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Speaker 2: Deserts form Right you bet.
Speaker 3: Thanks for having me.
Speaker 6: Have you slept yes, Uh, yeah, there's been some sleeping
Speaker 6: here and there. But uh, you know, I got to
Speaker 6: recalibrate because I was on Eastern Time for about four
Speaker 6: or five days and then I'll be on Central Time
Speaker 6: here in a couple of days.
Speaker 2: Was it well, the scenery and the expectation was it
Speaker 2: didn't match it?
Speaker 1: Oh?
Speaker 6: Absolutely, North Carolina is. I mean, first and foremost is
Speaker 6: just the beautiful campus there. That was actually the school
Speaker 6: I wanted to go to growing up in New Jersey,
Speaker 6: and I visited there and I applied, didn't get in,
Speaker 6: and that's how I ended up out in Arizona. But
Speaker 6: it was great to get to go back and check
Speaker 6: all that out. But it was a beautiful setting, very
Speaker 6: nice stadium packed, super polite people, just very welcoming, great atmosphere.
Speaker 2: And all that.
Speaker 6: And then I mean you combine that with a dramatic
Speaker 6: three game series where Arizona starts and just gets destroyed
Speaker 6: the first game and somehow manages to just flush that.
Speaker 6: They kept using that word, that phrase, come back and
Speaker 6: do a back and forth game for the second one,
Speaker 6: and then they really looked like they were left for
Speaker 6: dead there late in the third one, and get one
Speaker 6: little break they said they just needed a crack, and
Speaker 6: they got it and took advantage, and now they're going
Speaker 6: back to Omaha.
Speaker 4: You know everybody talks about, especially managers, flushing it, erasing
Speaker 4: it from your memory and just moving on. Clearly they
Speaker 4: did that, and did you get a sense in that
Speaker 4: second game just a different mentality from the first kind
Speaker 4: of a different I don't want to say different character,
Speaker 4: different team out there, because they've been doing it all year,
Speaker 4: but just non worries, some vibe out there by the team,
Speaker 4: like a confidence. I guess you would.
Speaker 6: Say, yeah, it's The thing is is that this has
Speaker 6: happened all year. In the Big Twelve, they went four
Speaker 6: and six in series openers and still managed to go
Speaker 6: eighteen and twelve in the league. So it gives you
Speaker 6: an idea of how they didn't let that first result
Speaker 6: really affect it. There were three times, I believe where
Speaker 6: they lost the first game in the series and then
Speaker 6: came back and won the series. So and a couple
Speaker 6: of those were on the road. So they've shown the
Speaker 6: ability to just take the loss and move on and
Speaker 6: not let that stuff carry over. But then at the
Speaker 6: same time, they've been able to use the momentum from
Speaker 6: a win and push that. So it's almost like there's
Speaker 6: different switches that they can compartmentalize the loss but feed
Speaker 6: off of the win.
Speaker 2: So when the season started, what did you think from
Speaker 2: your eyes, what were the expectations of how good this
Speaker 2: team could.
Speaker 6: Be based on talent and experience, the age of the
Speaker 6: team and all of that, and the weird history of
Speaker 6: this program. Omaha was a very realistic goal for this
Speaker 6: team if it could navigate this new conference the way
Speaker 6: it had the tail end of the time in the
Speaker 6: Big Twelve. It's such a weird thing. Since two thousand
Speaker 6: and four, every four NCAA tournaments Arizona has had gone
Speaker 6: to at least the Super Regionals, not to Omaha, and
Speaker 6: since twenty twelve now it's in every fourth tournament twelve, sixteen,
Speaker 6: twenty one because everything shut down in twenty and now
Speaker 6: twenty five. Part of that's kind of the cyclical nature
Speaker 6: of college baseball, because you end up having these classes
Speaker 6: every three or four years that you have a junior
Speaker 6: and senior heavy team that it all comes together, And
Speaker 6: that seemed to be what I was looking at at
Speaker 6: the beginning of the season, with the fact that their
Speaker 6: lineup has seven juniors and seniors in the starting line,
Speaker 6: in the hitting order, and that's what you need in
Speaker 6: these tournaments to have that experience. It was shaky a
Speaker 6: lot during the season. There were a lot of things
Speaker 6: that went wrong, and even two weeks left in the regular.
Speaker 3: Season, it wasn't looking good.
Speaker 6: They looked like they could have a couple more straight
Speaker 6: losses and they might have found themselves on the bubble hole.
Speaker 6: They right at the ship and they're winning when they're
Speaker 6: supposed to.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's kind of where I want to go with
Speaker 2: the next question, because so you had them at a
Speaker 2: home possibly at the beginning of the year. Was there
Speaker 2: a time in there or you doubted their ability to
Speaker 2: move forward?
Speaker 6: Yeah, there was. There was a stretch in late in
Speaker 6: mid May where they were late April and then into
Speaker 6: May they struggled in a series at Texas Tech, which
Speaker 6: was not a good team. And then they come home
Speaker 6: and they.
Speaker 3: Take two out of.
Speaker 6: Three from TCU, who's one of the top teams in
Speaker 6: the league, and you're like, okay, well, and then they
Speaker 6: get it figured out. Then they played the last place
Speaker 6: team in the league, Utah, and lose the first two
Speaker 6: games of that series and just look like they are
Speaker 6: not focused, that they don't have what it takes, and
Speaker 6: you're just wondering, is this a team that's playing up
Speaker 6: and down to the level of competition or maybe they
Speaker 6: just it's not there. And then they go to Houston,
Speaker 6: which is another team that was towards the bottom, and
Speaker 6: get beat pretty bad in the first game, and you're like, Okay, well,
Speaker 6: I maybe this just isn't it. And then from the
Speaker 6: second game of that Houston series at the end of
Speaker 6: the regular season, since it's it's almost been a different team,
Speaker 6: but it's not. It's the same players. It's maybe they
Speaker 6: collectively realize that if they want to keep playing, they
Speaker 6: have to figure this out and not overlook people and
Speaker 6: treat every game like it's the last game of the season.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it seemed to be somewhat of a wake up
Speaker 4: call in terms of going into the Big Twelve tournament
Speaker 4: and racking off the wins that they did and then
Speaker 4: getting the wins up in the Eugene Regional. But you know,
Speaker 4: one of the keys to this team seems to be
Speaker 4: the bullpen and the outstanding job that they've been doing
Speaker 4: and keeping the team in it even when the starting
Speaker 4: pinching hasn't gone to plan. Just your thoughts on the
Speaker 4: bullpen and specifically Turning Polita and the job he's done
Speaker 4: this postseason.
Speaker 6: At the back end of Arizona's bullpen has definitely been
Speaker 6: maybe the biggest strength in the most consistent part of
Speaker 6: the team. The pitching was going to be the big
Speaker 6: question mark this year because the entire starting rotation and
Speaker 6: the closer from last year got drafted, and the guys
Speaker 6: that they back in the fall probably thought were going
Speaker 6: to be the start in the rotation didn't end up being.
Speaker 6: They started the season with a a sophomore who had
Speaker 6: pitched five innings last year, and then a red shirt
Speaker 6: sophomore and a true freshman as their starting pitchers, and
Speaker 6: there were some headaches here and there, and it led
Speaker 6: to the bullpen getting overused in the middle of the season.
Speaker 6: But keeing with this stretch is the starting pitching started
Speaker 6: to be a little more reliable. This Regional, the Super
Speaker 6: Regional here those first two games that didn't show and
Speaker 6: that that's where the bullpen really stepped up. And Tony
Speaker 6: Fluta is at the forefront of that. He hasn't allowed
Speaker 6: an earned run. He hasn't allowed to run since April first,
Speaker 6: he's allowed I think five for the year, and only
Speaker 6: one in a leverage situation. He through fifty two pitches
Speaker 6: on Saturday, the most of his career, and comes back
Speaker 6: the next day and goes one, two, three in the
Speaker 6: ninth to clinch at spot in Omaha. The kid is
Speaker 6: five to eight at the most, probably five to seven.
Speaker 6: Nothing about him screams closer, but he just he has
Speaker 6: a something about him where he just is determined to
Speaker 6: not mess up. And he's the back end of a
Speaker 6: group that includes a couple of firearms in Julian Tojini
Speaker 6: and Hunter Alberini, who I think combined or averaging about
Speaker 6: fifteen strikeouts per nine innings. They've got a kind of
Speaker 6: a funky side armed dude in Casey hints that he
Speaker 6: was one of the dudes that got overused a lot
Speaker 6: earlier in the season, so he's had some rough games.
Speaker 6: But they just they have a lot of arms there
Speaker 6: that they can depend on, and they what's been amazing
Speaker 6: is they most of the season they haven't had to
Speaker 6: have these guys pitch a lot in one weekend, maybe
Speaker 6: twice on a Friday Sunday, but they haven't overworked them
Speaker 6: too much to where I think they're going into Omaha
Speaker 6: having a really good strength in that area.
Speaker 2: So you've covered for all this time here, I'm assuming
Speaker 2: because you've been around from time. I don't know him
Speaker 2: well at all, but to me watching or listening to
Speaker 2: him on the TV during those in interviews for the innings,
Speaker 2: you know, in between innings, he came up to me
Speaker 2: as kind of Tommy leydish, kind of likable, funny, kind
Speaker 2: of self effacing.
Speaker 3: Is he that guy?
Speaker 4: Yeah?
Speaker 6: And the thing is that he does not like doing
Speaker 6: those in game interviews. No coach does. But he's he
Speaker 6: just knows that there, you know, there's a value to
Speaker 6: him and he's gonna have fun with it and he's
Speaker 6: been in the game long enough that he understands why
Speaker 6: that is part of it. Yeah, he's he's got a
Speaker 6: weird kind of personality where he's he can be a
Speaker 6: little bit like poking fun at you as you've seen
Speaker 6: like that Tommy Lloyd will like to do and all that,
Speaker 6: but not to where it's mean or anyway. It's just say, hey,
Speaker 6: you know, let's enjoy what's been here. And a lot
Speaker 6: of that comes from he is home. He has lived
Speaker 6: in Tucson ever since he played here in the eighties,
Speaker 6: he's always kept the home here. It's where his wife
Speaker 6: and his kids have been when he was in the
Speaker 6: pros as a player, and then as a coach and
Speaker 6: the Miners, and then throughout his time in the major leagues.
Speaker 6: Even his last gig before the U of A, he
Speaker 6: was the assistant coach for the Tigers. He had himself
Speaker 6: an apartment in Detroit, but Tucson was his home and
Speaker 6: so being able to be here, he's just very relaxed
Speaker 6: and enjoying this, but not to where it's I don't
Speaker 6: care what the results are. This is his school. It
Speaker 6: means a lot to him and to be somebody who
Speaker 6: has taken the school that he that he went to
Speaker 6: and that he won a title as a player, and
Speaker 6: now to get to go back, I mean, it can't
Speaker 6: be understated how important that is them. And today is
Speaker 6: the thirty ninth anniversary of when he won a World
Speaker 6: Series title with Arizona.
Speaker 4: You know, there's a lot of interesting storylines going into
Speaker 4: the College World Series of Arizona, Oregon and UCLA packed
Speaker 4: well former packedwall schools all being their kind of powerhouses,
Speaker 4: but also coastal Careen and Arizona rematch of the twenty
Speaker 4: sixteen World Series, and potentially Arizona versus LSU at some point,
Speaker 4: maybe Jay Johnson being there out on the field, and
Speaker 4: you guys, you Levi and Javier and Morales are going
Speaker 4: to be out there and get a chance to interview
Speaker 4: Jay Johnson. I think it would be his first interview
Speaker 4: with a U of A reporters since leaving Tucsons.
Speaker 2: So.
Speaker 6: We're definitely looking forward to that. And there would have
Speaker 6: been possibilities for this to happen in the tournament in
Speaker 6: previous years. In twenty two, had Arizona won its regional
Speaker 6: and Coral Gables, it could have faced LSU in the
Speaker 6: super regionals. And even this past year, had Arizona in
Speaker 6: twenty four, had they won their regional, they were lined
Speaker 6: up with a regional that have LSU in it. So
Speaker 6: it's almost like it's been there on the tees. And
Speaker 6: the only way it can happen in Omaha is if
Speaker 6: Arizona went its side of the bracket and LSU wins
Speaker 6: its side and they play a best of three championships
Speaker 6: at the end. But even just him being there, I mean,
Speaker 6: he's going to get questions about Arizona because there's a
Speaker 6: familiarity there. But first, before you get to that point,
Speaker 6: you have the rematch of the twenty sixteen championship series
Speaker 6: with Coastal Carolina, and it's just very funny that those
Speaker 6: are the first two schools that clinch spots is Arizona
Speaker 6: and Coastal, and Coastal hasn't been back since they won
Speaker 6: that title, and a lot of the teams that are
Speaker 6: in this year, like Arizona hasn't been back since twenty one,
Speaker 6: only two other schools that are in this field have
Speaker 6: been back more recently. So it's a very wide open
Speaker 6: field in that respect. But yet you've got Oregon State
Speaker 6: on Arizona's side, who they've had so many great battles
Speaker 6: with over the year and over the years, and last
Speaker 6: year Arizona walked off the Beavers at High Corbett Field
Speaker 6: to win the final TACK twelve regular season title. UCLA's
Speaker 6: on the other side, had a lot of great ones
Speaker 6: with them. Last year, Arizona walked them off three games
Speaker 6: in a row and that was kind of the beginning
Speaker 6: of run towards the conference championships. So there's storylines for
Speaker 6: days and there's not going to be any shortage of
Speaker 6: things to talk about and write about.
Speaker 2: So I was going to ask you one of those questions.
Speaker 2: So I'm sure Desirae was out there North Carolina. I
Speaker 2: think one of the big questions is do you think
Speaker 2: he'll be extended anytime soon?
Speaker 6: I cannot see any reason why he wouldn't. And unless
Speaker 6: that Desirahs has a hard and fast policy of no extensions,
Speaker 6: you play out your fing no extensions while you have
Speaker 6: an active contract. It seems foolish. But I guess maybe
Speaker 6: in the current landscape where there's so much year to
Speaker 6: year stuff, the needed security for recruiting purposes of having
Speaker 6: that doesn't seem to have as much weight anymore. But
Speaker 6: it's more a matter of like, why wouldn't you want
Speaker 6: to extend the coach that has had the success he's
Speaker 6: had in his four years. Is It's not like he's
Speaker 6: not gonna want a huge raise. He just wants to
Speaker 6: continue to coach his school, and it just seems like
Speaker 6: this would be the perfect time to announce something like that.
Speaker 6: I thought the same thing four years ago when they
Speaker 6: went there with Jay Johnson. He was going to be
Speaker 6: finishing up the fourth year of a fifth year contract,
Speaker 6: and myself and Michael lev from The Star both asked
Speaker 6: Dave he the ad at the time, he when's the
Speaker 6: extension coming? And he just kind of laughted off, like
Speaker 6: we'll be getting something done soon. And a week later,
Speaker 6: j Johnson has left to go to LSU. I don't
Speaker 6: think Chip Hall would leave for another job. I think
Speaker 6: this is the last job he's going to have and
Speaker 6: he'll be here until he retires. But you still want
Speaker 6: to kind of reward someone for what they've done.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you for my final question, I did
Speaker 2: to make your answers shorter. Arizona win the title. If
Speaker 2: this happens, Arizona won't win the title.
Speaker 6: If this happens, Arizona will win the title if it
Speaker 6: gets at least four innings from its starters every time
Speaker 6: the starting pitchers. It won't if it has to keep
Speaker 6: going super deep into the bullpen every game, because you're
Speaker 6: just going to run out of bombs. They got the
Speaker 6: offense for it, you know, they don't have a super
Speaker 6: strong offense, but this is a really big stadium, so
Speaker 6: it's like playing at High Corbett and I think that
Speaker 6: might be a They're going to be more comfortable there
Speaker 6: than some of these other schools that play in tiny
Speaker 6: parks and are used to getting a lot of their
Speaker 6: runs by just hitting it over the wall.
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Speaker 2: going on.
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Speaker 2: Five two oh four one six seventy four forty it's Monday.
Speaker 2: Hear it from you, guys.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 2: One of the things we did you to talk about
Speaker 2: because it was Friday, it was the softball which with
Speaker 2: the Texas Tech in Texas Decanti, who's the A D
Speaker 2: there former assistant ad here champion in softball.
Speaker 3: Uh, she got rocked man right away. It was crazy.
Speaker 2: She got corrupt and you could. We talked about were
Speaker 2: you here Thursday? What day were you were here? I
Speaker 2: was here Monday, Monday, So we talked about that. She
Speaker 2: didn't look good Thursday.
Speaker 3: She was there.
Speaker 2: She was getting getting tired. You can see when we're thinking,
Speaker 2: I'm not sure she can hold it.
Speaker 4: I think I think part of it is tired. She
Speaker 4: also had that I think she had like a blizzard
Speaker 4: or something like that. She had some type of issue.
Speaker 2: And then she had just signed, the announcement had come
Speaker 2: that she had just signed.
Speaker 4: But I think the bigger thing is more than tiredness,
Speaker 4: because now they have even more games in between, I
Speaker 4: mean more time off in between, so you it's almost
Speaker 4: like a regular season. Stretch now is the fact that
Speaker 4: Texas just saw her. A lot of everybody had a
Speaker 4: lot of tape on her. They were good, they're very good.
Speaker 4: At the first game, she blew that game. You're trying
Speaker 4: to walk a hit her. It made no sense and
Speaker 4: you throw it right down the middle of that when
Speaker 4: you only, like Jenny Dalton block uh brought up, you've
Speaker 4: only walked three players your whole entire career. Good luck
Speaker 4: the second game, you know, they they kind of figured
Speaker 4: it out, figured it out at the end of that
Speaker 4: game Texas, and then they just opened up a huge
Speaker 4: can in the third game, and it's hard to battle back.
Speaker 2: Yeah no, there was so many runs to do that.
Speaker 2: But what a good showing by all up. I just
Speaker 2: really loved watching it this year for some reason. I
Speaker 2: watched it a few times. Obviously a few times are
Speaker 2: covered a few times, but it's always fun because these
Speaker 2: these women are just fantastic.
Speaker 4: Athe I'll say this, and everybody loves college baseball that's
Speaker 4: going on right now, but the best brand in terms
Speaker 4: of players at their prime is called softball. You have
Speaker 4: the best players. You have great defense, great field, and
Speaker 4: great hitting. Because they're not going off to another.
Speaker 3: Level, although they did have that yesterday. I saw some
Speaker 3: of that yesterday. Yeah, they have.
Speaker 4: They have the a U s L League going on
Speaker 4: right now. But you're not seeing the best high school
Speaker 4: players in a minor league, right You're seeing them develop
Speaker 4: and play at the highest level in the college softball stage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and now baseball is kind of intrigued me. It's
Speaker 2: still the slower game or whatever. It's a faster game
Speaker 2: now with a pitch county, with up pitchcount, with the speedball,
Speaker 2: you know, twenty seconds I think.
Speaker 5: Count.
Speaker 3: I'll get that. Yeah, yeah, so it's become more interesting.
Speaker 3: It's faster. It's faster, yea.
Speaker 4: But the talent level, I don't want to say, it's
Speaker 4: not what it is. It isn't what it is for softball,
Speaker 4: and it's not its own fault. It's not college baseball's fault.
Speaker 4: It's just the way the system.
Speaker 2: So I asked him about extending CHIP. She has probably
Speaker 2: have to, well not probably has to, but announcement should
Speaker 2: be coming soon.
Speaker 4: With kaitl Lo, I would assume with Chip, first, what
Speaker 4: do you mean, I would assume with CHIP, you definitely
Speaker 4: need to extend Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, no question, no question. And how could you
Speaker 2: not extend Kaitlin obviously, she she finished it was eighteen fourteen,
Speaker 2: eight forty.
Speaker 3: We talked about this right now. I know you're critical.
Speaker 2: I get it for forty eight to thirteen, yeah, eighteenth, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 3: I think there's a and it's not just Caitlin.
Speaker 4: Know that I have a few issues well, and Caitlin's
Speaker 4: a great, good coach, great person, but there's other issues
Speaker 4: on the staff that needs correcting. Sure, there's recruiting philosophies
Speaker 4: that need fixing. And when you have a roster that
Speaker 4: has dwindled to this much, and I know they just
Speaker 4: got two players that the last couple of days, there's
Speaker 4: really Yes, well.
Speaker 2: I think Desraey had to deal with this in football
Speaker 2: right for sure. And we don't know this to be fact,
Speaker 2: but we had read it on a month ago, which
Speaker 2: was fantastic. Yeah that Des Ray maybe said you need
Speaker 2: to make some changes or yeah, I'm just saying it's
Speaker 2: hard to.
Speaker 4: People want to celebrate the season, but the expectations of
Speaker 4: the program are what they are.
Speaker 3: Are they realistic though really no no I'm not. I'm
Speaker 3: not talking about nineties.
Speaker 4: Nineties aren't realistic, but being able that yeah, you can't talk,
Speaker 4: so at least you stay there. Okay, no, no, that's
Speaker 4: not what I'm talking about. But the expectation for Arizona
Speaker 4: in this age of softball, and it's realistic. You should
Speaker 4: be in a super regional almost every year because because
Speaker 4: you should be hosting and you should be winning those.
Speaker 2: Because but no, no, no, I think you're that's the
Speaker 2: reason why you should be in those reasons. Why because
Speaker 2: you're in Arizona.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, you should have the tent. They don't.
Speaker 4: They don't have the talent to consistently be there, right,
Speaker 4: and you should, right, But how is how recruit If
Speaker 4: you don't.
Speaker 2: Have the recruiting, you got to go to the recruit.
Speaker 2: But my main point is you made your age. I
Speaker 2: mean no, I'm like seventy years old just listening to you.
Speaker 4: But my main my main point is you should always
Speaker 4: have within a shot of getting to Oklahoma. I'm not
Speaker 4: saying you have to win it every year. That's unrealistic.
Speaker 4: You say there, you have to have a realistic shot
Speaker 4: of getting there. And to me, this team this year
Speaker 4: didn't really have a realistic shot unless they had an
Speaker 4: amazing pitching performance, and.
Speaker 2: They did from time to time, and obviously she was
Speaker 2: very good and very good. No, I get that.
Speaker 6: I think the.
Speaker 3: Expectations are unrealistic.
Speaker 5: I just do.
Speaker 3: And you've already missed one tournament. M hm. You kind
Speaker 3: of got.
Speaker 4: You got to a women's College World Series with some
Speaker 4: luck along the way. I just you have to be
Speaker 4: at a competitive and competitive place to be able to
Speaker 4: be in that spot where you are competing to get
Speaker 4: to a World Series. I'm not saying you have to
Speaker 4: get to a World Series every year, win a World
Speaker 4: Series every year. That's long gone, but the beginning of
Speaker 4: the year you have to have a roster you believe
Speaker 4: can get to that point, even if it doesn't. The
Speaker 4: talent has to be there. I just don't feel like
Speaker 4: the talent levels.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, I hear you, and I understand what you're saying.
Speaker 2: I just think it's not realistic.
Speaker 3: I feel like top sixteen, top sixteen would be all right.
Speaker 3: I think top twelve.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he's talking more than that, because that's the top.
Speaker 4: Twelve, top sixteen. You're hosting a regional yep, that's that's
Speaker 4: the bottom. You should do that every single year. Yeah,
Speaker 4: if your airs are you should just I think you
Speaker 4: should be able to compete for a super like hosting
Speaker 4: a super regional, not saying you have to do it.
Speaker 4: If you're in that that seven to twelve range, you
Speaker 4: have a shot at host Let me ask you.
Speaker 3: So, I'm gonna want you to be cant.
Speaker 2: And if I if we asked him that question, I
Speaker 2: think he'd be diplomatic and see that's not possible. I don't,
Speaker 2: But I don't because he's got to play both hands.
Speaker 2: But he's the coach that got in there and did that.
Speaker 2: But he's also she's her his guy, right, So I don't.
Speaker 2: I don't think he'd say that candidly if we pose
Speaker 2: that question. No, I just don't think it's realistic.
Speaker 4: I think I mean, he was able to do it
Speaker 4: when the game was changing, but it was But I'm
Speaker 4: talking about no, I'm talking about at the end of
Speaker 4: his career though.
Speaker 2: Well, because he gets some breaks too. I mean that
Speaker 2: that time when he got him finally to the again,
Speaker 2: how relieved that everybody wanting in nineteen could have been
Speaker 2: nineteen could have been did they go after that?
Speaker 4: They went in nineteen, they went in twenty one and
Speaker 4: twenty two. Twenty kids, you had to be money twenty
Speaker 4: one or twenty twenty two.
Speaker 3: They got that was when he.
Speaker 4: I mean, they didn't get it. They were on the
Speaker 4: road the whole time, okay, and they had the people
Speaker 4: to do it. They had talent, They had seniors that
Speaker 4: they were ranked top five in the country. They had
Speaker 4: all those seniors returning. They called them the super Seniors. Remember,
Speaker 4: they kind of faltered throughout the season, had their struggles
Speaker 4: and just found a way to get there. And you
Speaker 4: know when Owens you and the Women's College World Series,
Speaker 4: But they found a way to get there.
Speaker 2: And I don't I still I'm going to go down
Speaker 2: to my death with you on this because I just
Speaker 2: think it's crazy.
Speaker 3: We're budding heads on that one. But young kids don't
Speaker 3: know enough.
Speaker 4: And with the Condrea question, of course, a coach that
Speaker 4: picked the coach in waiting this forrman player, top five
Speaker 4: player in the history of this program, maybe top five
Speaker 4: player in the history of the sport.
Speaker 3: You're not going to say it's time.
Speaker 2: For no, no, no, no, no no, that's not like
Speaker 2: my question would be. Uh one, two questions, are fans
Speaker 2: here realistic about the situation that's going on today to
Speaker 2: day one?
Speaker 3: And two? Uh?
Speaker 2: Hold on, how would I ask that The next question
Speaker 2: to your point, can't can it be consistently done?
Speaker 6: Not?
Speaker 2: Oklahoma, Oh can it? Can it return to the past?
Speaker 2: That's too unrealistic too. But but how often or what's
Speaker 2: the realistic expectations of going to the World Series consistently?
Speaker 4: What's the realistic Well, I'm not saying you have to
Speaker 4: be there every single year, No, no, no, I don't
Speaker 4: think that's part. But being in a super regional potentially
Speaker 4: having the right to host. That doesn't mean your hosts
Speaker 4: were super regional every year, but at least hosting a
Speaker 4: regional every year with a shot to host a super
Speaker 4: and being on that competitive balance too, and you might
Speaker 4: get blown out in some supers.
Speaker 3: It happens. So she's been here four years, right, give
Speaker 3: me her, give me her resume. When is college World Series?
Speaker 4: The first year, missed the tournament completely, which was the
Speaker 4: first time in thirty something years in the program.
Speaker 3: Well outside of a year I think there was when
Speaker 3: he wasn't coaching. Yeah, yeah, no, no, they made the
Speaker 3: tournament that year. Yeah, but oh you've seen completely.
Speaker 4: Yeah, missed the tournament completely last year, won the regional.
Speaker 4: I forget they were on the road and then got
Speaker 4: blown out against Oklahoma State and this year, you know,
Speaker 4: had a good regular season with the record and everything,
Speaker 4: and then kind of underwhelming in the regional.
Speaker 2: So you you you watch from Afar, right, you watch
Speaker 2: from Afar. I don't know her style, don't know her from.
Speaker 3: Adam I did, I did.
Speaker 4: I did cover her her first year completely. Yes, what's
Speaker 4: your style? I would say she wanted to be aggressive,
Speaker 4: but they never did that. They said they were going
Speaker 4: to run, run the bases more, but it's been base
Speaker 4: to base kind of what's kind of is that's.
Speaker 2: Okay, I get that, But I'm talking to her style
Speaker 2: in terms of personality.
Speaker 3: I think it. I think she's players coach.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say easy going, but there's this,
Speaker 4: there's this there's a softness right there.
Speaker 2: Tells me you can't have that. And that's that's the
Speaker 2: biggest And that's my If that's the case, that's my
Speaker 2: issue because you can't have that. I don't care if
Speaker 2: it's women or men. You have to have this firm,
Speaker 2: firm grip on coach.
Speaker 3: And maybe she is behind closed doors, but we've.
Speaker 2: Seen well, this is a criticism that Tommy gets.
Speaker 4: You know, it's for sure for sure, but I mean
Speaker 4: we get it, we get more I don't want to
Speaker 4: say more access, but we're there more than we are
Speaker 4: at softbare.
Speaker 2: How many times can you continue to get to the
Speaker 2: sweet sixteen?
Speaker 3: Yeah? Before you say how are you going to get?
Speaker 2: And that's kind of what that's how you're going to
Speaker 2: be graded for her. This is what her grade is,
Speaker 2: right sure, and you're saying she's not getting there often enough.
Speaker 2: Four shots, I'm not sure that's four bullets that you
Speaker 2: want to you know, four bullets aren't enough bullets.
Speaker 3: No, So we'll see.
Speaker 2: But to that, to that point and the reason I
Speaker 2: asked this question, I still believe that firm coaches are
Speaker 2: either are soft in places they need to be soft
Speaker 2: and tough in places they need.
Speaker 3: To be tough.
Speaker 4: I don't think so, And that's that could be the issue,
Speaker 4: and I think that's part of it. And developing has
Speaker 4: been a problem. I know Devin developed, especially after her
Speaker 4: injuries in terms of in this, but outside of that,
Speaker 4: we talked about all these high level pitchers that they
Speaker 4: had come in and maybe there was missues they didn't
Speaker 4: they never developed. And now I and I used to
Speaker 4: Silva goes to ASU and again people get to take
Speaker 4: to social media whatever. But say when you say we
Speaker 4: weren't allowed to pitch in all four quadrants.
Speaker 3: Yeah, well maybe you just weren't good enough.
Speaker 2: Well, because next year if these girls who leave or
Speaker 2: woman who leave and do really well, guess what, they're
Speaker 2: a year older. They're a year older. Ye're stronger. You
Speaker 2: can't compare next year to this year. I mean next year.
Speaker 2: If you're not a better writer, shame on you, because
Speaker 2: you're older and you should be better.
Speaker 3: No, I get what you're saying, well.
Speaker 2: He's doing fifteen pounds, Well, because you're a year older.
Speaker 4: I think the issue with the pitching and why you
Speaker 4: saw all those pictures leave is a player like I
Speaker 4: used to silver her freshman year. Mind you, she reclassified.
Speaker 4: She was a year younger than what she should have been.
Speaker 4: Caame in mid season, pitched around one hundred and thirty
Speaker 4: innings and this year only only twenty five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they do they need devine a lot of the times.
Speaker 4: Do they need Yes, yes, but the mindset of we're
Speaker 4: going to bullpen it and that's going to be our strategy.
Speaker 4: Now you're always looking.
Speaker 2: For the again, we gotta go. Thank you for joining
Speaker 2: me today.
Speaker 3: I don't I don't know. I haven't asked you this
Speaker 3: while ast you for the air. Thank you Ray.
Speaker 2: Thursday Thursday, I'm in tomorrow with I'm not sure who.
Speaker 3: Have a good one, guys,