WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.520 This is Dan Capless and welcome to today's online podcast 2 00:00:03.640 --> 00:00:05.719 edition of The Dan Caplis Show. Please be sure to 3 00:00:05.759 --> 00:00:08.240 give us a five star rating if you'd be so kind, 4 00:00:08.320 --> 00:00:11.599 and to subscribe, download and listen to the show every 5 00:00:11.679 --> 00:00:15.560 single day on your favorite podcast platform. 6 00:00:16.239 --> 00:00:18.359 You're on the Dan Taplas said tonight, I'm Christy Burton 7 00:00:18.359 --> 00:00:20.519 Brown in for Dan, and tonight I would love to 8 00:00:20.519 --> 00:00:22.079 hear your thoughts if you want to call in any 9 00:00:22.079 --> 00:00:24.480 time eight five five four zero five eight two five 10 00:00:24.640 --> 00:00:27.519 five or text me is five seven seven three nine 11 00:00:27.559 --> 00:00:30.679 and start it with Dan. I did have someone text 12 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:33.960 as saying, oh, we'll talking about Social Security benefits and 13 00:00:33.960 --> 00:00:36.359 would Trump actually be cutting those with doge Trump went 14 00:00:36.399 --> 00:00:38.520 on a TV show and said, absolutely not. The only 15 00:00:38.560 --> 00:00:41.640 way we'll cut them is if illegal immigrants are using them. 16 00:00:41.640 --> 00:00:43.759 We'll cut the fraud, not the benefits for everyone else. 17 00:00:44.079 --> 00:00:46.079 And so someone texted and said, evil Trump is cutting 18 00:00:46.079 --> 00:00:48.280 benefits to our most vulnerable and needy citizens. 19 00:00:48.280 --> 00:00:50.799 And here's the catch, over one hundred and thirty years old. 20 00:00:51.119 --> 00:00:54.000 So in other words, he's actually doing nothing except for 21 00:00:54.079 --> 00:00:56.119 cutting fraud, which we're paying people. 22 00:00:55.880 --> 00:00:58.159 Who are over one hundred and thirty years old. They 23 00:00:58.159 --> 00:01:01.399 don't exist anymore. They are, So those are the kind 24 00:01:01.439 --> 00:01:02.359 of things that doge. 25 00:01:02.399 --> 00:01:07.319 And the Trump administration is looking into to cut fraud waste. 26 00:01:07.040 --> 00:01:08.439 Which I talked about this a little bit in the 27 00:01:08.480 --> 00:01:08.920 last hour. 28 00:01:09.000 --> 00:01:12.319 I think it's a whole new frontier that Republics have 29 00:01:12.359 --> 00:01:15.000 talked about for so long but have failed to implement 30 00:01:15.120 --> 00:01:17.959 in many cases. When we look at presidential administrations, many 31 00:01:17.959 --> 00:01:20.760 of them have cut taxes, many of them have found 32 00:01:20.799 --> 00:01:24.200 ways to save taxpayers money, but they haven't gone after 33 00:01:24.319 --> 00:01:28.439 the fraud, waste and abuse in federal agencies. I wrote 34 00:01:28.480 --> 00:01:31.159 an amachist brief for the U. S. Supreme Court last 35 00:01:31.200 --> 00:01:35.680 year that overturned the Chevron doctrine, one of my favorite cases, 36 00:01:35.920 --> 00:01:39.840 just because I am hugely against administrative power. When non 37 00:01:39.840 --> 00:01:44.040 elected bureaucrats get to tell businesses and people all the 38 00:01:44.079 --> 00:01:46.159 hoops they have to jump through, all the red tape 39 00:01:46.159 --> 00:01:49.000 in order to have a free market and actually compete 40 00:01:49.120 --> 00:01:52.640 and grow business and actually, you know, live in America 41 00:01:52.680 --> 00:01:56.200 and do what Americans do. I think the administrative agencies, 42 00:01:56.239 --> 00:01:58.920 the overcreation of them, both at the state and national levels, 43 00:01:58.959 --> 00:02:00.959 has been one of the most damaging things to the 44 00:02:01.000 --> 00:02:03.319 free market in America. So I was very happy when 45 00:02:03.319 --> 00:02:06.280 the US Supreme Court overturned the Chevron Doctrine. There are 46 00:02:06.280 --> 00:02:08.439 a whole lot of thoughts onto how this is going 47 00:02:08.520 --> 00:02:11.639 to extend down into the states, Like states still have 48 00:02:11.680 --> 00:02:14.000 a ton of administrative agencies who create a ton of 49 00:02:14.000 --> 00:02:16.919 red tape and regulations, and the Chevron Doctrine was a 50 00:02:16.960 --> 00:02:17.960 federal doctrine. 51 00:02:18.000 --> 00:02:19.319 So I think there's still a lot of work. 52 00:02:19.240 --> 00:02:23.120 That needs to happen in the States, but so much 53 00:02:23.199 --> 00:02:26.599 interconnected work goes on. When you look at cutting fraud 54 00:02:26.639 --> 00:02:31.120 wasted abuse in administrative agencies, the regulations and red tape 55 00:02:31.120 --> 00:02:33.680 that the Chevron Doctrine dealt with is just one piece 56 00:02:33.719 --> 00:02:33.960 of it. 57 00:02:34.199 --> 00:02:34.360 All. 58 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:37.039 This fraud wasted abuse that Doge and Trump and his 59 00:02:37.120 --> 00:02:40.599 administration are working to cut is another giant piece of 60 00:02:40.639 --> 00:02:43.599 how administrative agencies have become really the fourth branch of 61 00:02:43.639 --> 00:02:46.840 government and dictated to people what they can and can do. 62 00:02:46.879 --> 00:02:48.919 Whenever you have giant sums of money and pots of 63 00:02:48.919 --> 00:02:50.840 money that you can use for whatever you want and 64 00:02:50.919 --> 00:02:52.560 cram it all into a big bill and get the 65 00:02:52.599 --> 00:02:56.840 appropriations from Congress, that is where you see these agencies 66 00:02:56.879 --> 00:02:59.719 continue and have staying power because they get money to 67 00:02:59.719 --> 00:02:59.879 do it. 68 00:03:00.039 --> 00:03:00.520 Ever they want. 69 00:03:00.759 --> 00:03:00.879 So. 70 00:03:00.960 --> 00:03:03.400 I'm a huge fan of the cuts on fraud. 71 00:03:03.199 --> 00:03:05.439 Waste, and abuse, as I really think most people would 72 00:03:05.479 --> 00:03:08.240 be if they thought about it. I liked what Trey 73 00:03:08.280 --> 00:03:12.159 Goudi said on TV about this fourth branch of government, 74 00:03:12.240 --> 00:03:14.599 so I'm gonna go ahead and play him. 75 00:03:15.240 --> 00:03:20.400 I do not understand, Dana, the argument against eliminating identifying 76 00:03:20.479 --> 00:03:24.479 waste for all abused duplication. I mean, lawyers are trained 77 00:03:24.520 --> 00:03:26.800 to try to understand the other side of the argument. 78 00:03:27.319 --> 00:03:32.639 What is the argument for perpetuating fraud sending social Security 79 00:03:32.680 --> 00:03:35.159 benefits to someone who's been dead for ten years. I 80 00:03:35.199 --> 00:03:37.560 don't know the argument in favor of that. I do 81 00:03:37.719 --> 00:03:41.319 know this. We have created a fourth branch of government, 82 00:03:41.360 --> 00:03:43.680 the administrative branch, and right now that is all the 83 00:03:43.759 --> 00:03:46.199 left controls. They don't have the House, they don't have 84 00:03:46.240 --> 00:03:48.719 the Supreme Courts, they don't have Congress, so all they 85 00:03:48.800 --> 00:03:51.240 have is this administrative branch, and that is what they 86 00:03:51.280 --> 00:03:55.800 are clinging to. But I defy anyone to tell me 87 00:03:56.120 --> 00:03:59.960 identifying waste for all abuse duplication, how is that about 88 00:04:00.000 --> 00:04:00.520 bad thing? 89 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:03.439 And when you phrase it like that, how is that 90 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:03.840 a bad thing? 91 00:04:03.879 --> 00:04:05.199 It's really tough for people to come up with an 92 00:04:05.199 --> 00:04:08.639 answer to how identifying that waste of taxpayers money is 93 00:04:08.680 --> 00:04:10.439 not a very very good thing. 94 00:04:10.800 --> 00:04:12.520 I think what we're really in the middle of is 95 00:04:12.560 --> 00:04:14.360 a lot of unwinding that has to happen. 96 00:04:14.439 --> 00:04:15.919 You can have the US Supreme Court come out with 97 00:04:15.960 --> 00:04:18.480 a great decision of returning a Chevron doctrine, and then 98 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:21.360 you actually have to see it work in practical ways, 99 00:04:21.839 --> 00:04:25.839 so you can say that going forward, administrative agencies have 100 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:28.079 lost a lot of their power, and Congress actually has 101 00:04:28.120 --> 00:04:29.959 to be the one to make the laws and legislate 102 00:04:30.279 --> 00:04:34.399 and not delegate that so much nebulously to administrative agencies 103 00:04:34.399 --> 00:04:36.879 who are unelected bureaucrats. That's great going forward, that will 104 00:04:36.879 --> 00:04:40.120 make a ton of changes, make more predictability for small businesses, 105 00:04:40.160 --> 00:04:42.199 for big businesses, for people who want to participate in 106 00:04:42.199 --> 00:04:46.000 the free market. But it is still a long unwinding. 107 00:04:46.079 --> 00:04:48.360 Often especially that doctrine was in place for many, many 108 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:51.680 years and helped to set up a lot of this fraud, waste, 109 00:04:51.720 --> 00:04:53.879 and abuse we're seeing in the fourth ranch of government, 110 00:04:53.920 --> 00:04:55.160 the administrative agencies. 111 00:04:55.519 --> 00:04:57.000 And so I think Trey Goudy is correct. 112 00:04:57.000 --> 00:05:00.240 I think what Doge and President Trump are doing is 113 00:05:00.279 --> 00:05:02.879 part of this big unwinding that unfortunately is going to 114 00:05:02.879 --> 00:05:05.519 take years to accomplish. But I think if they've been 115 00:05:05.560 --> 00:05:07.560 able to do this much in the first almost thirty 116 00:05:07.639 --> 00:05:10.000 days of his presidency, were well on our way to 117 00:05:10.120 --> 00:05:13.560 seeing it get done. I think that's very, very important 118 00:05:13.560 --> 00:05:17.800 for anyone who's particularly interested in the administrative agency argument 119 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:19.879 that it's a fourth branch of government. There's a number 120 00:05:19.920 --> 00:05:21.360 of really good books on it, but one of them, 121 00:05:21.360 --> 00:05:22.839 I think I've talked about it on the show before, 122 00:05:22.879 --> 00:05:25.879 but it's Overruled by Neil Gorsich, my favorite justice on 123 00:05:25.920 --> 00:05:28.720 the US Supreme Court. He does have Colorado roots, but 124 00:05:28.839 --> 00:05:31.040 I think he's very intelligent in how he comes to 125 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:33.439 his decisions, and the ones he writes are very well 126 00:05:33.480 --> 00:05:33.920 thought out. 127 00:05:34.279 --> 00:05:36.959 I'd say that's true of most of the Supreme Court justices, not. 128 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:39.639 Every one of them, but just the way he thinks 129 00:05:39.839 --> 00:05:42.040 I really like. And he was an author before he 130 00:05:42.079 --> 00:05:43.720 was the US Supreme Court judge. He has a whole 131 00:05:43.720 --> 00:05:47.439 host of books he's written, but Overruled is the newest one. 132 00:05:47.560 --> 00:05:49.879 And we often think of overruled as one word, right, 133 00:05:50.079 --> 00:05:52.040 a decision is overruled, and you think of that in 134 00:05:52.079 --> 00:05:54.319 context of the judiciary, but the way he is saying 135 00:05:54.360 --> 00:05:56.959 it is actually has two words over ruled. 136 00:05:57.040 --> 00:05:59.160 You are ruled too much by the government. 137 00:05:59.399 --> 00:06:02.560 And so a lot of stories across the nation where 138 00:06:02.600 --> 00:06:06.560 people got caught up in administrative regulations and enforcement of 139 00:06:06.600 --> 00:06:09.800 these very narrow laws that if people knew about them, 140 00:06:09.800 --> 00:06:11.920 they'd be like, really, that puts someone in jail, that 141 00:06:12.079 --> 00:06:15.199 shut down their business, And hey, if you're committing an 142 00:06:15.240 --> 00:06:18.920 actual crime and hurting people and hurting their property and 143 00:06:19.160 --> 00:06:21.120 doing wrong things, like I'm well, I am all for 144 00:06:21.279 --> 00:06:24.040 cracking down on crime. But when we're talking about a 145 00:06:24.199 --> 00:06:28.399 fish caught by a fisherman not measuring the exact link 146 00:06:28.480 --> 00:06:32.000 that lengths that an administrative agency says it must be 147 00:06:32.079 --> 00:06:33.920 it's like one inch over, and then your business can 148 00:06:33.959 --> 00:06:34.360 be shut down. 149 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:37.759 You can go to jail. Like that's not a good regulation. 150 00:06:37.839 --> 00:06:39.240 You can you can set the regulation if you want, 151 00:06:39.279 --> 00:06:42.879 but often the punishment doesn't fit the supposed crime. So anyway, 152 00:06:43.000 --> 00:06:45.720 Justice Corsitch goes through all these examples across the nation 153 00:06:46.000 --> 00:06:49.079 of how the fourth branch of government has been empowered 154 00:06:49.160 --> 00:06:51.800 in many cases to go after people, to shut down business, 155 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:54.800 to hurt families, and how the legal saga plays out 156 00:06:54.839 --> 00:06:58.720 over years and years and years of the tiniest. 157 00:06:58.279 --> 00:06:59.920 Violation of a regulation. 158 00:07:00.279 --> 00:07:02.639 And so I think for anyone who wants to consider 159 00:07:02.720 --> 00:07:06.000 how damaging the administrative state, this fourth branch of government 160 00:07:06.199 --> 00:07:09.519 has been to people, there's some real kind of fun, 161 00:07:09.600 --> 00:07:11.600 kind of sad, practical examples. 162 00:07:11.639 --> 00:07:13.879 In Justice Corss's book Overruled. 163 00:07:13.920 --> 00:07:15.879 Actually was able just to get it from an audiobook 164 00:07:15.879 --> 00:07:18.120 from my library on my phone. If you use the 165 00:07:18.160 --> 00:07:21.079 Libby or Hoopla apps, you can actually borrow these books 166 00:07:21.079 --> 00:07:23.120 for free on your phone and listen to them while 167 00:07:23.120 --> 00:07:25.000 you drive. That's what I like to do. It's how 168 00:07:25.000 --> 00:07:27.600 I get a lot more reading in these days. So 169 00:07:27.800 --> 00:07:30.920 that would be my recommendation if you want to read something. 170 00:07:31.399 --> 00:07:33.360 When we have a couple more minutes still in this segment, 171 00:07:33.399 --> 00:07:35.160 but when we come back, I want to play some 172 00:07:35.199 --> 00:07:39.160 clips about federal workers. There's actually one particular federal worker 173 00:07:39.560 --> 00:07:42.920 and she talks about what it actually looks like to 174 00:07:43.040 --> 00:07:45.720 work as a federal employee. I find some of her 175 00:07:45.720 --> 00:07:47.920 words particularly interesting because my dad is actually a federal 176 00:07:47.920 --> 00:07:51.160 employee as well. Now, I would obviously say that he 177 00:07:51.319 --> 00:07:53.839 is one of the very hard working federal employees, because 178 00:07:53.839 --> 00:07:55.399 my dad will often be like, they should give me 179 00:07:55.439 --> 00:07:56.800 more to do I want more work. 180 00:07:57.319 --> 00:07:58.839 And that's definitely the kind of person. 181 00:07:58.879 --> 00:08:00.920 I grew up with a dad who had a very 182 00:08:01.000 --> 00:08:03.600 very strong work ethic. He doesn't have a college degree. 183 00:08:03.639 --> 00:08:05.199 I was the first one in my family to get one, 184 00:08:05.680 --> 00:08:08.319 and so he had to work his way through everything. 185 00:08:08.399 --> 00:08:11.000 He would have two and three jobs sometimes to pay 186 00:08:11.040 --> 00:08:13.199 for everything for my brothers and I and also like 187 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:15.759 it'll be my brother's hockey coach and also be at 188 00:08:15.759 --> 00:08:18.480 all of our events. And it's just an amazing person 189 00:08:18.519 --> 00:08:20.680 with a really strong work ethic. He would, you know, 190 00:08:20.759 --> 00:08:23.040 didn't have an engineering degree, but would be paid to 191 00:08:23.079 --> 00:08:26.720 design the plans for engineers. So just a really brilliant person, 192 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:30.560 hard work ethic. But when he works for the federal government, 193 00:08:31.040 --> 00:08:33.240 he will ask for more work sometimes. Let me think, 194 00:08:33.240 --> 00:08:35.960 you know, you can just sit there. We don't have anything. 195 00:08:36.039 --> 00:08:39.039 We're going to spread it around across everyone, which kind 196 00:08:39.039 --> 00:08:40.960 of drives my dad nuts because he's like, hey. 197 00:08:40.919 --> 00:08:43.759 You're paying me to work. I'd like actual work to do. 198 00:08:44.200 --> 00:08:46.840 And it just so I've heard firsthand, that's not how 199 00:08:46.840 --> 00:08:49.559 the federal government operates. They just hire and hire and 200 00:08:49.639 --> 00:08:52.559 hire and then don't fire and don't fire and don't fire. 201 00:08:52.399 --> 00:08:54.799 Even when people are not doing their jobs. 202 00:08:55.159 --> 00:08:57.519 According to some people I've heard who are federal employees, 203 00:08:57.960 --> 00:09:00.200 what some of their fellow employees do is literally spend 204 00:09:00.240 --> 00:09:03.200 their entire day going around from cubicle to cuba cole 205 00:09:03.320 --> 00:09:05.679 just chatting it up with people. And that's certainly not 206 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:08.039 what you're paid to do, but it ends up being 207 00:09:08.080 --> 00:09:10.759 what they're paid to do because in many cases, like 208 00:09:10.799 --> 00:09:14.399 tenure at public colleges and universities, you can't fire them. 209 00:09:14.679 --> 00:09:16.480 I think people would be surprised that they knew how 210 00:09:16.559 --> 00:09:19.600 deep that tenure under a different word exists within the 211 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:22.120 federal government, where they are not hiring the best and brightest, 212 00:09:22.120 --> 00:09:25.600 they're hiring whoever it is, and despite how they perform, uh, 213 00:09:25.879 --> 00:09:27.799 they are going to stay there for their lives. So 214 00:09:30.039 --> 00:09:32.200 after this, I'm Christy Burton Brown. You're on the Dan 215 00:09:32.279 --> 00:09:34.200 Kaplis Show, and you can call it eight five five 216 00:09:34.240 --> 00:09:47.240 four zero five eight two five five doge that suggested 217 00:09:47.320 --> 00:09:50.639 cuts and you know what Trump has been saying about him, 218 00:09:50.639 --> 00:09:52.919 because he's always talking and saying something out there. If 219 00:09:52.960 --> 00:09:54.799 you have thoughts, you can call in eight five five 220 00:09:54.879 --> 00:09:57.919 four zero five eight two five five or texture thoughts 221 00:09:57.919 --> 00:10:01.559 start with Dan to five seven seven nine I said, 222 00:10:01.600 --> 00:10:04.120 I had play a clip from a federal worker for you. 223 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:07.919 When we got back. She is talking about how difficult 224 00:10:08.000 --> 00:10:10.240 it is to ever get fired if you are a 225 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:11.320 federal employee. 226 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:12.320 Let's listen in. 227 00:10:13.240 --> 00:10:15.759 I used to be a federal employee, and I'm going 228 00:10:15.840 --> 00:10:18.799 to tell you why I don't feel bad for federal 229 00:10:18.799 --> 00:10:20.960 employees being forced to come back. 230 00:10:20.759 --> 00:10:23.320 Into the workplace. I worked for the Army Corps of 231 00:10:23.320 --> 00:10:26.639 Engineers for almost a year, and the abuses that I 232 00:10:26.679 --> 00:10:32.000 saw by government employees was astounding and shocking. I worked 233 00:10:32.039 --> 00:10:35.600 as a realty specialist, and that is someone who manages 234 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:39.679 government own lands, so when farmers in ranchersleys land to 235 00:10:41.200 --> 00:10:43.360 Gray's cattle, we would manage that. 236 00:10:43.519 --> 00:10:45.759 When I was hired, my boss brat that it was 237 00:10:45.840 --> 00:10:48.919 basically impossible to get fired from the federal government, and 238 00:10:48.960 --> 00:10:51.600 that in her entire time working for the government, she'd 239 00:10:51.600 --> 00:10:55.799 only seen one person fired, and that person assaulted a 240 00:10:55.840 --> 00:10:59.600 fellow employee. And she wasn't even fired for assaulting the 241 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:02.480 employe at work, who was fired for learning about it 242 00:11:02.519 --> 00:11:03.840 because they caught it on camera. 243 00:11:04.240 --> 00:11:05.600 And when you caught it on when you catch it 244 00:11:05.600 --> 00:11:07.879 on camera, you don't really have any options other than 245 00:11:07.919 --> 00:11:09.840 taking care of it. But had it not been caught 246 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:11.799 on camera, I wonder what have actually happened to that 247 00:11:11.840 --> 00:11:12.679 federal employee. 248 00:11:12.720 --> 00:11:14.559 They'd probably still have a job today. 249 00:11:15.080 --> 00:11:17.360 So this is one of the reasons that President Trump 250 00:11:17.519 --> 00:11:21.399 is in fact cutting the federal workforce, because it has 251 00:11:21.480 --> 00:11:25.519 been for decades nearly impossible to fire federal workers. That's true, 252 00:11:25.720 --> 00:11:28.039 and I related a little bit to the tenure in 253 00:11:28.279 --> 00:11:31.759 universities and colleges that professors often get. But the same 254 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:33.480 thing happens if you work for the government at the 255 00:11:33.480 --> 00:11:36.559 federal level. They don't call it the name tenure, but 256 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:40.279 it becomes extremely hard to fire people. And in part 257 00:11:40.360 --> 00:11:42.960 the reason they don't fire people is because they're always, 258 00:11:43.159 --> 00:11:45.080 you know, afraid that their own laws are going to 259 00:11:45.120 --> 00:11:46.600 come back to bite them, and people are going to 260 00:11:46.679 --> 00:11:49.600 claim they're fired for discriminatory reasons, even if they were 261 00:11:49.679 --> 00:11:52.799 underperforming and doing all these things that you get fired 262 00:11:52.840 --> 00:11:56.320 for in the corporate world, that they're always going to say, oh, discrimination. 263 00:11:56.480 --> 00:11:58.320 They just basically don't want lawsuits, they don't want to 264 00:11:58.360 --> 00:12:00.320 deal with it, and so instead they continue to have 265 00:12:00.360 --> 00:12:03.679 incompetent people they can stay working at the government even 266 00:12:03.679 --> 00:12:06.879 though they get fired somewhere else. About an hour ago, 267 00:12:07.279 --> 00:12:11.240 news came out that starting tomorrow, the IRS is going 268 00:12:11.279 --> 00:12:15.559 to fire six seven hundred employees. One of the headlines 269 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:19.120 on this said IRS to lose progress it has made 270 00:12:19.159 --> 00:12:22.240 in recent years. I'm not sure how many taxpayers or 271 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:27.240 average voters would say the IRS having more agents is progress, but. 272 00:12:28.000 --> 00:12:29.279 I would definitely say that it is not. 273 00:12:29.480 --> 00:12:32.039 In the IRS should cut some employees so they can 274 00:12:32.080 --> 00:12:34.919 cut some of the insane amount of pages they have 275 00:12:35.080 --> 00:12:37.559 and regulations they have on how you have to file 276 00:12:37.600 --> 00:12:40.039 your taxes and all the ways they can go after 277 00:12:40.080 --> 00:12:43.320 you if you make even the smallest unintentional mistakes. 278 00:12:43.799 --> 00:12:45.480 So good news for. 279 00:12:45.480 --> 00:12:47.639 Most Americans that the IRS is now going to get 280 00:12:47.679 --> 00:12:51.080 smaller with about six thousand, seven hundred people getting fired. 281 00:12:51.639 --> 00:12:53.639 I'd rather make it clear that I don't ever think 282 00:12:53.720 --> 00:12:55.919 it's great to be like, yes, someone else is getting fired. 283 00:12:56.120 --> 00:12:58.559 It's a real family, that's a real job that someone has. 284 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:01.679 I'm never excited about a specific person. I shouldn't say never, 285 00:13:01.720 --> 00:13:03.840 because there's some awful people out there, But for the 286 00:13:03.840 --> 00:13:06.799 most part, I'm not excited about people getting fired because 287 00:13:06.840 --> 00:13:09.440 it affects their family. But what I do think is 288 00:13:09.519 --> 00:13:11.720 often if you have IRS experience there actually are a 289 00:13:11.759 --> 00:13:14.639 whole lot of corporations and nonprofits who will line up 290 00:13:14.679 --> 00:13:17.000 to hire you because they need someone to give them 291 00:13:17.000 --> 00:13:19.559 IRS advice to know how to navigate taxes. 292 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:21.080 So it's typically not hard to. 293 00:13:21.039 --> 00:13:23.080 Get a job when you've worked at a federal agency 294 00:13:23.120 --> 00:13:25.559 that a lot of corporations and nonprofits worry about. 295 00:13:25.879 --> 00:13:27.000 So I don't think. 296 00:13:26.840 --> 00:13:29.399 This is going to be something that's devastating to most 297 00:13:29.440 --> 00:13:31.559 of the families. Also, because the federal government tends to 298 00:13:31.600 --> 00:13:34.039 have programs in place where you get a severance and 299 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:36.200 you get the ability to have a runway and go 300 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:38.919 find another job. So what I think is great about 301 00:13:38.919 --> 00:13:40.679 this is that the IRS is going to get smaller 302 00:13:40.799 --> 00:13:44.200 and have fewer people cracking down on unintentional mistakes on 303 00:13:44.279 --> 00:13:47.480 taxes instead of going after the real fraud, wasted abuse 304 00:13:47.519 --> 00:13:50.000 in the system, which we've been talking about all day 305 00:13:50.039 --> 00:13:52.120 long on the show. Or you know, Ryan, I think 306 00:13:52.120 --> 00:13:53.799 it's felt like a whole day, but it's really only 307 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:58.720 been an hour. So the other interesting piece of news 308 00:13:58.759 --> 00:14:01.440 a couple other things that so the Trump administration is doing, 309 00:14:01.720 --> 00:14:03.639 and this may also come out tomorrow. I don't think 310 00:14:03.679 --> 00:14:06.679 the timeline has been officially decided on yet. But the 311 00:14:06.720 --> 00:14:10.120 Trump administration is considering in the very near future making 312 00:14:10.159 --> 00:14:13.320 a public health order on the border to stop the 313 00:14:13.360 --> 00:14:16.960 flow of immigration across the border, saying that illegal immigrants 314 00:14:16.960 --> 00:14:21.879 are bringing in flu, tuberculosis, measles, and respiratory illnesses. You 315 00:14:21.960 --> 00:14:24.720 may remember that in the first term of Trump's administration, 316 00:14:24.840 --> 00:14:28.080 he made an order like this and stopped some immigration 317 00:14:28.240 --> 00:14:31.360 flow across the border because of diseases that were being 318 00:14:31.360 --> 00:14:33.840 brought into the United States. And I think the purpose 319 00:14:33.879 --> 00:14:35.240 of an order like that is to say that the 320 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:37.360 flow across the border can't just be indefinite, all these 321 00:14:37.360 --> 00:14:39.799 people pouring across. It has to be limited so we 322 00:14:39.840 --> 00:14:43.120 can actually evaluate who is sick, who isn't, who can 323 00:14:43.200 --> 00:14:46.360 be vaccinated, who can't be And so I think, you know, 324 00:14:46.399 --> 00:14:48.480 a public health order like that would be in order. 325 00:14:48.879 --> 00:14:51.440 We do see some of the border states, in particular 326 00:14:51.440 --> 00:14:54.720 Texas right now struggling with some outbreaks, not all caused 327 00:14:55.200 --> 00:14:58.440 by illegal immigrants, but some of these diseases certainly are 328 00:14:58.720 --> 00:15:01.759 that's just a fact they don't have vaccines in their countries, 329 00:15:01.919 --> 00:15:03.519 or they don't have the same level of medical care 330 00:15:03.559 --> 00:15:05.639 we do in the United States. And so many times 331 00:15:05.639 --> 00:15:08.159 when you do have in abundance of illegal immigrants coming 332 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:10.559 across the border, you do, in fact get more diseases 333 00:15:10.600 --> 00:15:13.080 in the United States. So that is a legitimate concern 334 00:15:13.200 --> 00:15:15.480 and something that may come down as early as tomorrow 335 00:15:15.919 --> 00:15:19.720 from the Trump administration. Another order that has come down 336 00:15:19.759 --> 00:15:23.600 from the Trump administration is that any school receiving federal 337 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:26.279 funding anywhere down from preschool all the way up to 338 00:15:26.279 --> 00:15:29.679 colleges and universities, if you are receiving federal funding, then 339 00:15:29.720 --> 00:15:32.159 this order applies to you, and you now have two 340 00:15:32.279 --> 00:15:34.879 weeks and this came out today two weeks to ban 341 00:15:35.279 --> 00:15:39.240 DEI and they talk about in the order what DEI is, 342 00:15:39.399 --> 00:15:43.600 but specifically they're focusing on treating students differently based on race. 343 00:15:44.080 --> 00:15:45.879 So there's a whole lot of ways that applies, a 344 00:15:45.879 --> 00:15:48.919 whole lot of ways that different schools do this and 345 00:15:49.120 --> 00:15:53.000 segment students based on their race and either give some 346 00:15:53.440 --> 00:15:57.679 specific abilities or privileges, and others they box them out 347 00:15:57.720 --> 00:15:59.759 from certain things. I mean, this definitely happens not in 348 00:15:59.759 --> 00:16:02.200 every single school that gets federal funding, but in a 349 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:05.159 number of them people are treated differently based on their race. 350 00:16:05.360 --> 00:16:08.039 It's actually a lawsuit currently against the Cherry Creek School 351 00:16:08.039 --> 00:16:12.159 districts here in Colorado, alleging that they've done exactly that 352 00:16:12.440 --> 00:16:16.879 and segmented students by race and treated them differently in classrooms, 353 00:16:16.879 --> 00:16:20.279 had different classroom policies based on the color of your 354 00:16:20.320 --> 00:16:24.120 skin in Cherry Creek schools, very very nearby here. So 355 00:16:24.559 --> 00:16:26.679 those are the kind of things that the Trump administration 356 00:16:26.759 --> 00:16:30.279 is basically saying, if you receive any amount of federal funding, 357 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:32.879 you have two weeks to figure this out. They already 358 00:16:32.960 --> 00:16:35.399 previewed this earlier when they first got into office and 359 00:16:35.440 --> 00:16:39.240 said you can't have DEI if you accept federal funding. 360 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:41.000 But now they're actually putting in under a timeline and 361 00:16:41.000 --> 00:16:43.000 saying you have two weeks to get rid of it. 362 00:16:43.200 --> 00:16:44.840 And if schools don't, and I'm sure there's going to 363 00:16:44.840 --> 00:16:46.799 be a number of them that don't and that refuse to, 364 00:16:47.559 --> 00:16:49.639 I think then it's going to be up to the 365 00:16:49.679 --> 00:16:53.039 federal government if they pull back federal funding or exactly 366 00:16:53.080 --> 00:16:55.799 what kind of consequences they put on schools that refuse 367 00:16:55.879 --> 00:16:58.279 to do this. I think you will most likely see 368 00:16:58.320 --> 00:17:00.919 colleges and universities jump on this first. 369 00:17:01.279 --> 00:17:01.840 There's going to be a. 370 00:17:01.799 --> 00:17:03.840 Few holdouts, a few ones that probably want to be 371 00:17:03.960 --> 00:17:06.559 the example and resist, but I think a lot of 372 00:17:06.559 --> 00:17:08.839 them is very very easy to trace. The exact federal 373 00:17:08.839 --> 00:17:11.680 funding that comes and flows to the college and universities. 374 00:17:11.799 --> 00:17:13.240 They're going to have to make a concrete decision. You're 375 00:17:13.240 --> 00:17:15.160 either getting rid of your DEI programs or you're not, 376 00:17:15.200 --> 00:17:17.279 and you're going to lose federal funding. That's a very 377 00:17:17.319 --> 00:17:19.359 easy stream to cut off. I think when you look 378 00:17:19.400 --> 00:17:23.400 at elementary schools, high schools, junior highs, kindergartens, preschools that 379 00:17:23.400 --> 00:17:25.119 are run publicly at least, which are the ones that 380 00:17:25.160 --> 00:17:28.240 receive federal funding for the most part that's integrated within 381 00:17:28.319 --> 00:17:30.559 the state funding system. That's going to be a lot 382 00:17:30.640 --> 00:17:33.240 harder puzzle I think for the federal government to figure 383 00:17:33.279 --> 00:17:35.480 out how do you actually block federal funding for one 384 00:17:35.480 --> 00:17:38.799 particular high school whose federal funding comes through the state 385 00:17:39.160 --> 00:17:41.279 that is granted a certain amount of federal funding. 386 00:17:41.680 --> 00:17:43.279 It's not entirely true, there are. 387 00:17:43.160 --> 00:17:45.440 Some direct federal funds that go to states, but in general, 388 00:17:45.559 --> 00:17:47.000 I think that's going to be a more difficult piece 389 00:17:47.000 --> 00:17:49.680 for the Trump administration to figure out. Colleges and universities, 390 00:17:49.680 --> 00:17:52.039 though probably a better listen or they're going to get 391 00:17:52.039 --> 00:17:52.759 their funding pulled. 392 00:17:53.279 --> 00:17:55.599 I'm Christy Burton Brown. You're here on the Dan Kapla Show. 393 00:17:55.880 --> 00:17:58.480 Call in anytime eight five five four zero five eight 394 00:17:58.480 --> 00:18:02.160 two five five next to Dan at five seven seven 395 00:18:02.400 --> 00:18:08.519 three nine. 396 00:18:19.160 --> 00:18:21.559 You're listening to the Dan Kaplis Show podcast. 397 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:25.519 Welcome back to the Dan Kaplis Show. I'm Christy Burton Brown. 398 00:18:25.880 --> 00:18:27.400 A lot of people have been paying attention to the 399 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:31.440 Colorado legislature this session, and they really only just got started. 400 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:33.119 I'll have so much time left. 401 00:18:33.240 --> 00:18:35.359