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Speaker 1: Hey, this is James Buckley up in North Louisiana. When

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I have a raging fever for eighties and nineties nostalgia

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that I can't even cure with more cow bell, I

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turned to the experts, Jason Coffin and d Graves on

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the Shirley You Can't Be Serious Podcast?

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Speaker 2: All right, D, Let's do the soundcheck real quick.

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Speaker 3: All right, Hello everybody, Welcome back to Shirley you Can't

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Be Serious Podcasts.

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Speaker 2: Hello everybody, and welcome back to Shirley Can't Be a

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Serious podcast? Is that your lack range voice?

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Speaker 3: Hello everybody, and welcome back to the Shirley you Can't

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Be Serious Podcast.

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Speaker 2: We're here to.

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Speaker 3: Talk some z Z top and we promise you if

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we blow your mind, we will not let it go

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to our head.

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Speaker 4: Oh man, We're gonna be talking about beards and babes

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and cars and double entendres and great.

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Speaker 3: Songs, lawsuits and writers without credit and some vicious guitars

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and all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 4: This is some really cool stuff we're gonna be discussing

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on this one.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. I've been kind of looking forward to this.

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Speaker 4: This is an album that I didn't own, you know,

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kind of a zz Top Greatest Hits kind of guy.

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Speaker 3: So, yeah, you told me when we were like prepping

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for this, you were like, this is going to be

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kind of similar to our Police episode where you were

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just kind of barely familiar with synchronicity and had to

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dive in. And then we were comparing that to Journeys Frontiers,

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and at the beginning of the idea to do that,

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you were like, it's going to be Journey.

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Speaker 2: I have no question, it's gonna be Journey.

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Speaker 3: But by the end you're like, it's the Police because

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you went, Wow, these guys have so much to offer

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than I really realized.

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Speaker 2: Very similar situation, I think.

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Speaker 3: So I'm really anxious to see how that plays out

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with zz top Eliminator versus our competitor, which we will

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do next week, which is Rebel Yell by Billy Idol.

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Speaker 1: Now.

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Speaker 2: I had MTV growing up.

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Speaker 4: We've talked about this, how I grew up in Tulsa, Glooma,

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where Tulsa was one of the pilot programs for MTV,

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So we had our MTV before New York City had MTV.

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Speaker 2: You were on the right side of the road.

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Speaker 4: I was on the right side of the road. Yeah,

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So they played zz Top every fifteen minutes. Oh yeah,

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you know they also played Billy Idol every fifteen minutes.

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Speaker 3: Early we didn't have it. We're gonna have a good

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MTV story with the band. I know, just before this

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album it starts getting recorded, so I can't wait to

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jump into it before we jump into Eliminator. Track by track,

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tell me your top three non Eliminator songs.

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Speaker 2: Non Eliminator songs.

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Speaker 4: Okay, So for me, after Burner was my favorite Zzy

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top album okay, post Eliminator, all right, And I'm actually

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kind of curious to see because you're a guitar player.

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of the older stuff, doors, that type of thing, and

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know that's my sweet spot.

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Speaker 2: So for me, my number three is.

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Speaker 4: A song off of after Burner. Okay, one word title.

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really catchy song. You got a lot of radio play

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in nineteen eighty six.

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Speaker 2: One word title. I'm not like sleeping bag is it

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is two words and huh, sleeping bag just missed. Okay,

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is This song is called Stages?

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Speaker 3: Okay, you're gonna have to play that one for me.

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the radio. A bit softer sound for them.

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Speaker 3: And I don't know that I necessarily have these in

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hint number one is it was about a brothel that

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an homage to John Lee Hooker. And like a few

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years later, I'm like, somebody's like he's suing them.

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Speaker 2: I'm like what really?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, So it ended up soing they lost it lost,

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of course, it's Orange.

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Lee Hooker. Her name, His name was Bernard Bestman, and

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which had come out in like the late forties, and

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Speaker 4: My second favorite non eliminator is easy Toop. Song is

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another song off After Burner. Had a funny little video

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to it, and this was kind of all the rage

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back in the day. We thought tying your shoelaces was

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gonna go out of style because this invention.

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Speaker 2: I know this one.

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Speaker 3: This is a This is a great example of how

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they loved me.

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Speaker 2: Be kaing. This is be for a Fly.

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Speaker 5: Fly.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: I just love the beat and I mean it's just

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Speaker 3: So my number two is off of Fandango, which came

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out in seventy five. It is not the bigger hits

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off of that album, okay, but it's one I can't

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Laren Shears if he happens to be listening. He was

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the one who kind of introduced me to these older

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zeezy top songs, and I feel like he's the one

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that was like, when I started playing guitar, he's like,

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can you figure out how to play the song? And

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he introduced me to this. It is a very bluesy

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blues sounding song, like your standard slow blues. It sounds

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like the music that you hear in sixteen candles whenever

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the party is over.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and you sent it to me and I listened

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to it, I'm like, this sounds like when the Pepperoni

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pizza is on the record player.

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Speaker 2: What was that called blue Jean blues? Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Okay, great, fantastic song. Not the one that people typically

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twenty nineteen, and it was one that they were playing

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Speaker 4: Okay, number one, My number one song is about a

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brothel outside.

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Speaker 2: Of Houston exactly exactly, you know, before.

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Speaker 4: We get off of Lagrange. Obviously, that's what we're talking

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about here. Billy Gibbons did the vocals on this, and

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it's hard to imagine the same guy who sings Lagrange

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sings legs, right, I mean his voice sounds completely.

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Speaker 2: Different, Yeah, very different.

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Speaker 4: And he was trying to distort his vocals huh, and

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it just wasn't happening for him. And they were recording

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in Memphis it was cold, and he's like, hey, hang

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on just a minute, I'll be right back. So he

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takes off all of his clothes like strips downs to

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like his sweatpants or whatever, and he runs around the

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block two or three times and he comes back all right, ready, perfect.

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Speaker 2: That is perfect.

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Speaker 3: My I won't say this number one. Probably the Grange

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that is very popular after Fandango, and it starts with

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a nice yell. This one isn't sung by Billy. This

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one is sung by Dusty.

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Speaker 4: Okay, you threw me there because I was gonna go

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Speaker 2: That's it?

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Speaker 3: Oh really yeah, that one's sung by Dusty Hill himself.

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Speaker 6: Oh okay, yeah, there we go, so Tush of course, yep,

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there you gown.

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Speaker 4: I've got a list of zezy Top songs that are

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double entendres here in just a minute.

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Speaker 2: It's gonna have fun going through that list. Yeah, okay,

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very good.

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Speaker 4: So Eliminador was released March twenty third, nineteen eighty three.

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its fortieth anniversary. Yeah, this album sold ten million copies

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in the US alone. To me, this is like the

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second act of zz Top.

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Speaker 3: I divide the history of zz top into basically three categories.

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in their various bands.

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Speaker 2: Sure.

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Speaker 3: Then you have the pre beards right, which is you know,

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seventies through basically right up to the eighties, and then

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changed the game. I mean, this was a huge, huge

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Speaker 4: You know, it's interesting to me when you look at

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the elements that make an artist successful, especially in the

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MTV years, This was more complicated recipe than.

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Speaker 2: Like Madonna and Wham. Right.

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Speaker 4: So Madonna was good looks, good hooks.

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Speaker 2: And like to wear lingerie.

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Speaker 4: Well yeah, I mean every I mean she appealed to

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us sexually, right, and we were rocking and rolling with her.

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Speaker 2: Thank you.

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Speaker 4: Okay, but then you have other people, I mean, you know,

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the beard, it's the babes, it's cars, it's videos.

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Speaker 2: It was a bit of a more complex formula to.

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Speaker 4: Reach the success on MTV that they had, but still amazing.

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Speaker 3: It was iconography at its best, like, let's pick things

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Speaker 4: I mean the beard, the beard is what did it?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well, I mean all of those things you mentioned,

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the girls, the beard, the car, the spinning guitars. I

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mean yeah, it's all there.

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Speaker 2: Yep, yep. And the songs were great yep.

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Speaker 3: And it's what is great is that in this particular

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album they have done a very nice favor for us

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forty years in advance and said, Okay, the first song

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on the album is also going to be our first video,

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is also going to be our first single, and so

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we can jump into it right now.

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Speaker 2: Okay.

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Speaker 4: So the first song off of Eliminator is a song

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called Gimme All Your Loving. This song is so good,

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like a boomerang. I need to repeat every time I

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listen to it.

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Speaker 2: Because what you've got is oh so sweet.

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Speaker 4: Okay, if I'm just just a raking my ZZ Top songs,

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including Eliminador.

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Speaker 2: This is number one. This is my favorite ZZ Top song.

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It's a great song. You can't I mean, I can't

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Speaker 3: It's fantastic, that beat coming in, that little the Shuffley beat,

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that it's got a lover.

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Speaker 2: I got a story for you about the beat.

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Speaker 4: So Lyndon Hudson, who we're gonna be talking about here,

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probably more later. Yeah, he's a sound engineer guy, kind

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of a friend of the band, and one of the

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things that he started to notice he would DJ at

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these events. He said, anytime you would play a ZZY

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Billy Gibbons. He's like, what the heck? He's like, I

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was really proud of these songs. They're not danceable songs.

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So Lyndon Hudson says, well, started listening to all the

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hit songs on the radio, and all the dancing songs

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are about one hundred and twenty one hundred and twenty

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four beats per minute. Yes, and so he's like, we

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got to have more songs that they have. One hundred

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and twenty beats per minute. Guys, yep, boom, here you go,

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give me all you eleven.

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Speaker 3: And it's very precise because what they did on this

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album is a little bit shocking given their history, right,

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But basically they came back, like they took a three

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year hiatus.

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Speaker 2: They came back.

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Speaker 3: They had Diguelo that came out in seventy nine and

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I Looko that came out in eighty one, right after

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they had been on this hiatus. But they were looking

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for something different. Specifically, Billy was looking for something different,

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and the other guys were just like, man, I'm exhausted.

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Let's us just relax. And so they took out the

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dusty parts and the Frank parts except for a few

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little bits, and they kind of put in some drum

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machines and made it a little more crisp.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Absolutely, So I've got a great story for this. Lyndon

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Hudson's over at Frank Beard's house. Frank lived on a

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golf course, so he's always over there. They were playing

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golf all the time.

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Speaker 3: Right, he's got his own studio. Like, by the way,

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this album was recorded in three different studios. One of

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them was Frank's studio, one of them was the Ardent

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studio where they had recorded most of their other stuff,

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and then their engineer's home studio.

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Speaker 2: He would take things home and work on it there. Sure, sure,

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So Linden's over at Frank's house. Ding dong.

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Speaker 4: They go open the front door. It's Billy Gibbons and

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Frank says, hey, how's it coming. You know, how's the

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album coming. Billy says it's done in the press, headed

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to the street. Frank's like, let's hear it. So he

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pops it in. First song, of course, is give Me

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All Your Love, and three seconds in Frank perks up.

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Speaker 2: He's like, who is this drummer?

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Speaker 4: Lyndon said he left the room. Aha, He's like, I

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don't need this drama in my life.

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Speaker 2: I'm out here. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: Billy was in charge of this band and he would

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just do whatever. And really Bill Ham is kind of

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Bill Ham and Billy Gibbons, and the kind of behind

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the scenes agreement was Dusty, Billy and Frank would have

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this three way share of zz Top.

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Speaker 2: But Billy called the.

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Speaker 3: Shots, right, and bill Ham called the shots that Billy called.

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Speaker 2: That's it. Yeah.

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Speaker 3: And by the way, okay, so real quick, bill Ham,

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he was about twelve years older than the rest of

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these guys. These guys are all born Dusty, Frank and

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Billy all born in nineteen forty nine. Okay, yeah, same

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year as my dad. And it's funny because we were

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talking and like the only guy who doesn't have a beard,

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his name is Beard, right, and then the other two

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guys you put their names together and it's hill Billy

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band out of Texas. It's perfect, right. But bill Ham

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is like the fourth member of the band. He was

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the manager of the band. He was their Colonel Parker,

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he was their p T.

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Speaker 2: Barnum.

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Speaker 3: He was the guy who blew them up right after

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these guys like in the nineties, he became big in

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country music. And he's the guy that was also really

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responsible for Clint Black just a tragic store that goes

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along with that right there in the early nineties. His

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wife is just I mean, she's like shopping, go into

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her car and this X con comes up, pushes her

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in the car, kidnaps her. Then quote unquote uses martial

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arts to karate chop her neck and kills her what yep,

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and dumps her body out in a field and escapes

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And they don't find him for like five weeks, and

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finally somebody sees the car. There is a high speed pursuit.

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He ends up wrecking her car, but ultimately he is caught,

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he is convicted, and he is executed for her murder.

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Speaker 4: Wow. Wow, Well, let's talk about the video for a second.

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Speaker 2: Okays love it.

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Speaker 4: So this is the first video where we get the

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nineteen thirty three Ford Coup, the Eliminator.

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Speaker 2: Car, the Eliminator Car. Yeah, and it is sweet.

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Speaker 4: I mean I've always known it as the ZZ top car.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's the It's on the cover of

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the album, right, And this is actually a car that

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Billy had been working on for years. He actually got

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together with a guy in nineteen seventy six that was

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an auto guy. His name was Don Thielen. They put

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a Corvette style engine in there and it's I mean,

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it can run like the wind and it becomes a

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defining icon of the band.

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Speaker 2: Hey, I'm gonna put it up there and say this

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is the most iconic eighties video car. This Trump's the

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White Jaguars from the White Snake videos. This is the

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video cars. So it was a magical car, Yeah for sure.

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Speaker 4: You know what else, But every time you pull over,

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babes freaking magically appear out of it.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: You have the Eliminator trilogy of give Me all your

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loving sharp dressed man and legs, all featuring this car,

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all featuring three super hot babes doing magical things, and

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the band I loved how you. I was like, they're

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just kind of these mystical figures in the background, and

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You're like, yeah, they're the fairy Godfathers, and I was like.

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Speaker 2: Yes, that's exactly what they are. There, you go, that's fantastic.

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Speaker 4: Let's talk about these three women for a second. Because

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you have Gina Keo, who if you ever watched Real

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Housewives of Orange County, she calls herself the OG of

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the OC.

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Speaker 7: Right, She's like the first.

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Speaker 4: Housewife, okay, which I never watched that show, But her

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maiden name was Thomasino, So Gina Tomasino. She was actually

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Miss November nineteen eighty in Playboy magazine.

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Speaker 2: Then you have a girl named Danielle Arnand and she

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is French. She's French. Yeah.

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Speaker 4: And then you have this other girl who never got

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her name, They never paid.

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Speaker 2: Her, never even showed up to pick up a check, vanished.

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Speaker 1: Weird.

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Speaker 4: She magically got into a car and drove away.

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Speaker 2: Here's the interesting thing.

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Speaker 4: So these videos are all directed by Tim Newman.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, so Tim Newman is the cousin of several famous people.

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Randy Newman should immediately jump out.

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Speaker 4: Randy Newman, the guy who sings I Love La.

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Speaker 3: Yes, and Tim Newman what directed that video? He directed

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the idea of La video. We've also talked about Randy's brother,

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Tim's other cousin, David, who is a composed because he

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was the composer for Bill and Ted's excellent adventure The

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whole family and their father like composed the twentieth century Fox.

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Speaker 2: No no, no, no, no, no, no, all of that stuff.

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Oh that's great.

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Speaker 3: And yeah, so he had directed the I Love La video.

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Bill Ham sees this video and he's like, I love

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what you've done here.

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Speaker 2: I want you to meet my band zz top uh huh.

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Speaker 4: And you know what he told him, You have to

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have these three things. The car, gotta have babes, gotta

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have rock and roll.

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Speaker 2: And he did it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's the recipe right there. The idea he got

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was the rest is up to you. He kept the

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appearance of the three ugly bearded.

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Speaker 2: Men to a minimum.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, let's just make these guys magical, mystical, like wizards

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out here. Put the sunglasses on, cover up their heads,

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you know, make them as it's cartoonish as possible.

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Speaker 2: It's really cool, right, he literally.

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Speaker 3: Said to them when he got there. He's like, I

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have these three beautiful women to offset you three ugly guys.

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Speaker 2: I love it.

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Speaker 4: This song reached number thirty seven on the Hot one hundred.

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Speaker 2: Insane. What's insane? How does it only get up to

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number thirty seven? Even in eighty three? It doesn't make

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any sense. It doesn't make any sense. Okay, are we

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done with this one? Yes? She ready to move on

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to track number two.

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Speaker 4: Track number two is called got Me under Pressure.

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Speaker 2: She lacks cocaine. I dig this one, man, that's great.

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I love it another. You got two big songs right

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out of the box. Yeah, I've got a great story

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about the creation of this song. Let me hear it.

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Speaker 4: So Billy Gibbons and Lyndon Hudson are sitting around one

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day and they start to write a song. So they

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write it, play it, produce it, complete it, send it

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into Bill Hammon say hey, we've got this track done

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one included on the album. So Bill comes in the

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next day. The band is there and he's like, all right, guys,

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play the song for me.

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Speaker 2: I want to hear it.

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Speaker 4: Pressure and Dusty and Frank are looking at each other

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like what are you talking about?

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Speaker 5: Man?

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Speaker 2: He's like, you know the song, Pressure, play it? This

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is like, I don't think we know that song. Bill.

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The song was.

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Speaker 4: Totally written, finished, demoed out, and they hadn't even heard it.

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And that's just the way it went over there, you know, Yeah, there.

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Speaker 5: Got Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I think there were some hard feelings about that. Yeah,

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well okay, got to lead into something you don't want

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to talk about it yet.

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Speaker 3: Well, no, I'm just thinking about I mean, so it's

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weird to think about because these guys, they, I mean,

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they all three start in Texas, right. You know, You've

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got you've got two guys up in Dallas, Dusty and

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and you've got another guy down in Houston, Billy, and

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they're ultimately on a.

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Speaker 2: Crash course towards each other. The thing is that they.

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Speaker 3: All go through their various bands together. So you've got

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Dusty and his brother Rocky, who get together ultimately with

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Frank and they have this kind of early Beatles, look

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like they've got the suits and they're playing that style

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of music. They've even got a female lead singer who's

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from England, which Dusty was like, if you've got a

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female lead singer from England, you're going to book wherever

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you want to in Dallas.

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Speaker 4: Texas, Lady Wilde and the Warlocks.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So ultimately Frank gets his girlfriend pregnant. They've got

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to get married.

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Speaker 3: He realizes, hey, I'm not gonna make it here in Dallas,

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so I'm going to go try to go down to Houston.

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He leaves with his wife and kid, goes down to Houston,

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and that's where he meets Billy for the first time. Right,

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and he's seen Billy play. Now, Billy has had all

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kinds of success at this point. He's had a band

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that he called the Moving Sidewalks. So he loses a

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couple of members of his band to the draft.

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Speaker 2: They go to Vietnam.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is I mean, they're going they're like

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sky marketing up. They've played with the doors, they've played

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with the animals, and then they do a multi set

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tour with the Jimmy Hendrix Experience. Right, that's right, And

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he said, Billy said, the very first show that they did,

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they were told, hey, you got to have a show

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that's forty minutes. He's like, well, for us to get

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a show that's forty minutes long, we're going to have

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to play Purple Hayes and Foxy Lady.

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Speaker 2: And I don't know why no one else.

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Speaker 3: In the room went, you can't play these songs of

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the band you're opening, Are you crazy? And so nobody's

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told him that they had just finished Foxy Lady. He

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goes into the intro of Purple Hayes. He looks over

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at the side and he sees Jimmy Hendrix with his

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arms crossed, staring at him. And he gets done with

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the song and he comes over and to Jimmy Hendrix,

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and Jimmy Hendrix smiles at him.

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Speaker 2: He says, I like you, you've got nerve.

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Speaker 3: So he loses a couple of those guys, decides to

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be a three piece band like the Jimmy Hendrix Experience,

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and then he starts losing those guys. One of them

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goes to audition for the Morgan Mindy Show. I'm sorry,

472
00:22:02,599 --> 00:22:05,200
I just say Morkan Mindy more con Mindy show. What

473
00:22:06,160 --> 00:22:08,759
And the other one just kind of falls out right.

474
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:11,319
He's just like, hey, I'm not interested in doing this.

475
00:22:11,359 --> 00:22:12,799
So he's like, I don't want to be a solo act.

476
00:22:13,079 --> 00:22:15,319
But as it turns out, that's right when Frank Beard

477
00:22:15,319 --> 00:22:17,920
has made his way down there, and frank Beard basically

478
00:22:18,000 --> 00:22:20,119
pesters him to death until he finally goes into the

479
00:22:20,119 --> 00:22:23,440
studio and when they play together, these are Billy's words.

480
00:22:23,440 --> 00:22:25,519
He's like, it didn't take me thirty minutes. It didn't

481
00:22:25,559 --> 00:22:29,200
take me thirty seconds. I knew instantly that this guy

482
00:22:29,279 --> 00:22:31,599
has the chops that I want to play with. And

483
00:22:31,640 --> 00:22:33,839
then of course Frank is the one that says, hey,

484
00:22:33,880 --> 00:22:36,039
I got a bass player that'll round us out. They

485
00:22:36,039 --> 00:22:37,880
bring Dusty down and they play.

486
00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:41,880
Speaker 2: For three freaking hours straight without a break. Yeah, first

487
00:22:41,960 --> 00:22:44,279
time to play together. They play Shuffle and see for

488
00:22:44,559 --> 00:22:48,039
three hours and it just keeps on going and going

489
00:22:48,079 --> 00:22:49,519
and going going. Yeah.

490
00:22:49,559 --> 00:22:53,640
Speaker 3: So knowing that is their beginning, it's really disheartening to hear.

491
00:22:54,160 --> 00:22:56,680
Now Billy is just saying, you know what, I'm not

492
00:22:56,720 --> 00:22:58,359
really interested in their input anymore.

493
00:22:58,400 --> 00:22:59,799
Speaker 2: I'm just gonna do all of this myself.

494
00:23:00,559 --> 00:23:00,680
Speaker 1: Right.

495
00:23:00,839 --> 00:23:02,559
Speaker 2: That's a bummer. It is a bummer.

496
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:04,559
Speaker 4: Here's the interesting thing to me. You have these guys

497
00:23:04,559 --> 00:23:07,920
who start making these awesome music videos and it's an

498
00:23:07,920 --> 00:23:10,599
introduction to a whole new generation of which I was

499
00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:12,480
one of those people and so were you. But they

500
00:23:12,559 --> 00:23:17,200
also introduced synthesizers into their music, which was abomination to

501
00:23:17,279 --> 00:23:20,039
a lot of early fans. When they took their hiatus,

502
00:23:20,079 --> 00:23:21,960
he went to Europe and he went and listened to

503
00:23:22,039 --> 00:23:25,759
punk shows, disco shows, started tasting different types of music,

504
00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:36,000
and he listened to this band warming up called Devo Wow,

505
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:39,039
and he's like, Wow, these guys have these really cool

506
00:23:39,240 --> 00:23:43,319
synths and they're still making great hooks, great energy, you know,

507
00:23:43,400 --> 00:23:46,519
great shows. And then to kind of further stamp it

508
00:23:46,599 --> 00:23:51,799
on them, he went and saw a band called depeche Mode.

509
00:23:54,960 --> 00:23:57,440
Same thing happened there. He was blown away that this

510
00:23:57,519 --> 00:24:01,000
band could take this crowd and energize them and without guitars,

511
00:24:01,039 --> 00:24:03,720
they had no guitars, they had no drums, And he

512
00:24:03,799 --> 00:24:06,079
went backstage and met the guys. This is like nineteen

513
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,119
eighty two, introduced himself and they're like, you're.

514
00:24:09,000 --> 00:24:09,920
Speaker 2: In zz Top.

515
00:24:09,960 --> 00:24:12,640
Speaker 4: What are you doing at one of our shows. He's like, man,

516
00:24:12,680 --> 00:24:14,279
I'm just blown away by what you guys can do

517
00:24:14,319 --> 00:24:14,960
from the stage.

518
00:24:15,240 --> 00:24:19,640
Speaker 2: Yeah, Devo depeche Mode zz Top. Yeah. He also liked

519
00:24:20,799 --> 00:24:22,240
MD really. Yeah.

520
00:24:22,319 --> 00:24:24,440
Speaker 3: We just finished covered them a month or so ago, right,

521
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:28,279
And their deal was we're not going to use guitars, right,

522
00:24:28,400 --> 00:24:32,400
and then they made that change for Violator they had

523
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:34,960
the guitars, and I guess it's just kind of like

524
00:24:34,960 --> 00:24:38,400
a nice crossover that Billy's like, Hey, let's bring in

525
00:24:38,440 --> 00:24:40,160
some sense. It's pretty cool.

526
00:24:40,319 --> 00:24:42,759
Speaker 2: Yeah. And you know who was playing the sense, Lyndon Hudson.

527
00:24:42,920 --> 00:24:43,400
You got it?

528
00:24:43,599 --> 00:24:43,880
Speaker 1: Wow?

529
00:24:44,039 --> 00:24:48,359
Speaker 2: Yeah. Lynn Hudson credited on this album anywhere, not initially.

530
00:24:49,920 --> 00:24:51,960
We'll get into that. We'll get into that in a minute,

531
00:24:52,079 --> 00:24:52,440
all right.

532
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:55,720
Speaker 4: Song number three on the album is a song called

533
00:24:55,920 --> 00:24:56,680
Sharp Dressed.

534
00:24:56,720 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 5: Man.

535
00:25:09,519 --> 00:25:11,359
Speaker 3: Okay, guys, what I want you to do is play

536
00:25:11,359 --> 00:25:14,119
a song that is killer guitar and drums and bass

537
00:25:14,440 --> 00:25:18,599
for a solid twenty seconds with no words.

538
00:25:17,880 --> 00:25:20,920
Speaker 2: Just sounds runs freaking amazing.

539
00:25:21,359 --> 00:25:26,160
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, I love it, man.

540
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:28,240
Speaker 2: This is a killer song to me.

541
00:25:28,559 --> 00:25:32,640
Speaker 3: This is the definitive zz top sound. This song starts.

542
00:25:32,680 --> 00:25:36,359
I'm like that, there's no more iconic this is Zezy

543
00:25:36,480 --> 00:25:38,559
Top than that first riff.

544
00:25:39,799 --> 00:25:41,079
Speaker 2: Girl crazy about it?

545
00:25:41,240 --> 00:25:49,720
Speaker 4: Sh I mean, we're sitting here glowing about this song.

546
00:25:49,799 --> 00:25:52,799
This only reached number fifty six on the Hot one hundred.

547
00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:56,400
Speaker 2: It's insane. What is going on here? Is my mind?

548
00:25:56,559 --> 00:25:59,160
Speaker 4: This is the second single, another video directed by our

549
00:25:59,200 --> 00:26:01,720
man Tim Newman. Yep, you've got the three babes, you

550
00:26:01,799 --> 00:26:02,359
got the car.

551
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:04,039
Speaker 3: So did we get the new babe by this time?

552
00:26:04,119 --> 00:26:06,240
The other one you can checked out after give me

553
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:08,200
all your loving So we got a new babe. But

554
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:09,640
it's not Kimberly Herron yet.

555
00:26:09,720 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's still not Kimberly Heron. But there is a different, third,

556
00:26:13,039 --> 00:26:14,839
different third babe. Yeah, now listen to this.

557
00:26:15,039 --> 00:26:17,279
Speaker 4: Billy Gibbons got the idea for the name of this

558
00:26:17,440 --> 00:26:19,920
song from the movie The Amateur, which came out in

559
00:26:19,960 --> 00:26:22,920
nineteen eighty one, which I've never seen. I don't even

560
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:26,000
really know anything about it. During the credits, somebody was

561
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:30,319
credited in the role of sharp Eyed Man.

562
00:26:30,920 --> 00:26:31,920
Speaker 2: Sharp Eyed Man.

563
00:26:32,039 --> 00:26:35,079
Speaker 4: Yes, okay, by the way, so there's no way that

564
00:26:35,119 --> 00:26:38,039
this is the fifty sixth best song in America at

565
00:26:38,039 --> 00:26:40,200
the time. That it peaked out on the Hot one hundred.

566
00:26:40,279 --> 00:26:42,319
But that week was the same week that Every Breath

567
00:26:42,359 --> 00:26:43,359
You Take topped out.

568
00:26:43,240 --> 00:26:43,839
Speaker 2: At number one.

569
00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:47,079
Speaker 4: And I remember during our police episode we talked about

570
00:26:47,119 --> 00:26:49,799
how that might be the greatest top ten ever in

571
00:26:49,839 --> 00:26:50,680
the nineteen eighties.

572
00:26:50,759 --> 00:26:53,200
Speaker 3: I do remember that that was an incredible top ten.

573
00:26:53,599 --> 00:26:56,359
I mean, I don't know how there's another thirty before

574
00:26:56,400 --> 00:26:58,039
you get up to the top, right.

575
00:26:58,160 --> 00:26:58,440
Speaker 2: Yeah.

576
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:01,799
Speaker 4: Billy Gibbons called this song a successful marriage of a

577
00:27:01,920 --> 00:27:04,480
techno beat with bar band blues.

578
00:27:04,880 --> 00:27:09,079
Speaker 3: So Lynnon Hudson was very involved in the early stages

579
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:09,839
of this song.

580
00:27:10,519 --> 00:27:12,480
Speaker 2: And you just asked me a question a minute ago.

581
00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:14,480
Did he get any writing credit on this right now?

582
00:27:14,559 --> 00:27:17,000
Speaker 3: Basically what Billy said is, don't worry man, I'll take

583
00:27:17,079 --> 00:27:18,200
care of you, right.

584
00:27:18,319 --> 00:27:19,599
Speaker 2: That was kind of the idea.

585
00:27:19,920 --> 00:27:23,400
Speaker 3: Yeah, And my guess is is that when Bill Hamm

586
00:27:23,960 --> 00:27:27,799
heard that the other guys weren't really involved with under pressure,

587
00:27:28,039 --> 00:27:31,240
that he started like doing a stronghold just as an

588
00:27:31,279 --> 00:27:33,240
example of the way the Bill Hamm was number one.

589
00:27:33,279 --> 00:27:36,160
He didn't ever let them do TV, he didn't ever

590
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,200
let them do interviews, he didn't ever let them play

591
00:27:38,200 --> 00:27:40,680
on anybody else's stuff, and they're like, hey, you know,

592
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:44,279
shouldn't we do this and get more publicity, And he's like,

593
00:27:44,359 --> 00:27:47,000
the less people know, the better, And to be honest,

594
00:27:47,200 --> 00:27:48,720
for guys like you and me, these are guys we

595
00:27:48,720 --> 00:27:50,920
could totally hang out with, right. Sure, these are good

596
00:27:50,920 --> 00:27:51,839
old Texas.

597
00:27:51,480 --> 00:27:52,559
Speaker 2: Boys, Texas boys.

598
00:27:52,599 --> 00:27:55,079
Speaker 3: For most of the rest of the country, they might

599
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,640
be a little frightening, right Sure. It's a different kind

600
00:27:57,640 --> 00:27:59,640
of language that they speak down in Texas. We're right

601
00:27:59,640 --> 00:28:01,720
across the Red River from when we know that language.

602
00:28:01,720 --> 00:28:02,960
Speaker 2: We do know that language. Yeah.

603
00:28:03,079 --> 00:28:05,400
Speaker 3: That had actually worked out very well for them. They

604
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,359
were only doing shows in Texas, and at some point

605
00:28:07,640 --> 00:28:10,160
they get offered to do this Memphis Blues festival. This

606
00:28:10,319 --> 00:28:12,480
was like the Hollywood Bowl of Memphis, right like this,

607
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,319
and it's just blues musicians, and so they get called

608
00:28:16,319 --> 00:28:18,319
out to go do this. This is after their first album.

609
00:28:18,319 --> 00:28:22,480
This is after zz top first album. What a great

610
00:28:22,519 --> 00:28:23,000
title that.

611
00:28:23,039 --> 00:28:27,279
Speaker 2: Is for your first album, hey, right?

612
00:28:28,519 --> 00:28:32,599
Speaker 3: And so anyway, they the promoter had called them up said, hey,

613
00:28:32,720 --> 00:28:34,720
love your sound. We would love you guys to come out.

614
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,640
He apparently had not looked at the back of the album, right,

615
00:28:37,759 --> 00:28:41,880
which had their watercolor drawn faces, which were much lighter

616
00:28:42,160 --> 00:28:47,200
complexion than everyone else playing at this blues festival, right yeah,

617
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,880
And so whenever they showed up, he was like.

618
00:28:49,880 --> 00:28:50,720
Speaker 2: You gets, you're white.

619
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:53,880
Speaker 3: You guys are going to shock the crap out of

620
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:56,440
the audience. I don't want you to mess up the show.

621
00:28:56,559 --> 00:28:59,079
We're going to stick you at the very end, and

622
00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,680
that way, hopefully people will have gotten tired and gone

623
00:29:01,720 --> 00:29:03,880
home and it will be fine. I don't know what

624
00:29:03,960 --> 00:29:07,039
kind of experience this promoter has, but the guys at

625
00:29:07,079 --> 00:29:10,240
the end are always the ones that everybody are waiting for. Right,

626
00:29:10,359 --> 00:29:14,279
that's the end of the headliner of the show plays last, right, right.

627
00:29:14,799 --> 00:29:17,759
So of course when they get up to play, nobody

628
00:29:17,839 --> 00:29:20,359
had left. Everybody is still there. There is a bit

629
00:29:20,400 --> 00:29:24,559
of a gasp, and the crowd is the Yeah, bearded

630
00:29:24,599 --> 00:29:28,000
rednecks come out. Yeah, partially bearded rednecks at this point

631
00:29:28,200 --> 00:29:28,960
cowboy hats.

632
00:29:29,039 --> 00:29:29,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

633
00:29:29,559 --> 00:29:31,079
Speaker 3: But once they kick it in a gear and they

634
00:29:31,079 --> 00:29:33,519
start playing, not only did the crowd go nuts, but

635
00:29:33,559 --> 00:29:36,039
the musicians started to come out and cheer them on.

636
00:29:36,240 --> 00:29:38,880
So it was a great show for them. But bill

637
00:29:38,920 --> 00:29:41,359
Ham said, we are not letting you out in public,

638
00:29:41,359 --> 00:29:44,240
and that was one of the results. Another thing that

639
00:29:44,319 --> 00:29:47,000
he said was, we are not going to double track

640
00:29:47,039 --> 00:29:48,440
any instruments on this album.

641
00:29:48,559 --> 00:29:48,839
Speaker 7: Right.

642
00:29:49,200 --> 00:29:51,200
Speaker 3: They go up to Tyler, Texas to record with this

643
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:54,119
guy named Robin Hood. Bryant's Robin has got this three

644
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:57,160
piece band. He has been told by Bill Hamm, we

645
00:29:57,200 --> 00:29:57,920
want this to be.

646
00:29:57,839 --> 00:29:58,839
Speaker 2: A huge sound.

647
00:29:58,880 --> 00:30:01,519
Speaker 3: This has got to be a very very big sound.

648
00:30:01,680 --> 00:30:05,319
And he's like, for three instruments, right, yes, And he's

649
00:30:05,359 --> 00:30:08,279
like okay, And so he puts microphones everywhere. He puts

650
00:30:08,319 --> 00:30:10,599
microphones in the hallway, he puts microphones right next to

651
00:30:10,599 --> 00:30:12,839
the amps. He's trying to get any sound that he

652
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:14,839
could from any place that he can, but he cannot

653
00:30:15,079 --> 00:30:18,119
find this big sound. And so he starts talking to

654
00:30:18,119 --> 00:30:21,960
Billy and he's like, hey, I have done some double tracking,

655
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:24,480
and all you gotta do is like you play it once,

656
00:30:24,559 --> 00:30:27,480
play it pretty simple, and then just detune it just

657
00:30:27,519 --> 00:30:30,680
to smidge and then it fills it out. It gives

658
00:30:30,799 --> 00:30:34,119
kind of a twelve string flow. And Billy's like, oh no,

659
00:30:34,200 --> 00:30:35,839
we're not allowed to do that. He's like, you're not

660
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,440
allowed He goes yeah, Bill said no double tracking. We're

661
00:30:39,480 --> 00:30:42,680
not allowed to double track, right, And so Robinhood thinks

662
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:44,359
about it for a second, He's like, okay, I tell

663
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,039
you what, buddy, When I throw you the ball, you

664
00:30:46,119 --> 00:30:51,039
catch it. And so it's about one or so and

665
00:30:51,279 --> 00:30:56,400
they haven't found the sound. Bill's getting frustrated, and Robin says,

666
00:30:56,720 --> 00:30:59,839
you know, Bill, Billy was telling me he can't play

667
00:31:00,039 --> 00:31:02,000
until he's gotten some of the barbecue over there at

668
00:31:02,039 --> 00:31:04,799
the county tavern. Billy's like, sees what it's going on.

669
00:31:04,920 --> 00:31:07,240
He catches the ball. He's like, yeah, man, I can't

670
00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:09,680
play the Blues until I give me some barbecue. So

671
00:31:10,119 --> 00:31:11,799
Bill Ham's like, okay, I'll go pick it up for

672
00:31:11,839 --> 00:31:12,319
you guys.

673
00:31:12,359 --> 00:31:12,920
Speaker 2: Where is it?

674
00:31:12,960 --> 00:31:14,799
Speaker 3: He tells him where it is, he leaves to go

675
00:31:14,839 --> 00:31:16,680
get it. What he doesn't tell him is that it

676
00:31:16,759 --> 00:31:19,880
is a cross county line twenty five miles back when

677
00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,400
the speed limit was fifty five miles an hour, right,

678
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:25,720
And so he's so. Then Robin Hood says to Billy, Okay,

679
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:28,119
we got about an hour and twenty minutes to make

680
00:31:28,160 --> 00:31:31,000
this happen. Play something simple. Pick brown Sugar, right. You

681
00:31:31,079 --> 00:31:33,400
listen to the first nearly two minutes of Brown Sugar,

682
00:31:33,400 --> 00:31:37,119
and it's this very quiet guitar and singing sound, and

683
00:31:37,160 --> 00:31:39,640
then all of a sudden it's full, like it's such

684
00:31:39,640 --> 00:31:43,200
a contrast, such a great song. But he does the thing,

685
00:31:43,400 --> 00:31:45,240
plays it, detunes it a little bit, you know, just

686
00:31:45,240 --> 00:31:47,200
pull on the strings a little bit and gets them

687
00:31:47,200 --> 00:31:49,440
just tiny bit out of tune. He plays it again.

688
00:31:49,880 --> 00:31:52,359
He puts it at forty five degrees from one speaker

689
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,680
to the other. Bill Ham comes back in. He's like,

690
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:56,960
you didn't tell me. It was all the way across.

691
00:31:56,599 --> 00:31:59,200
Speaker 2: The county guys barbecue, a long way from here.

692
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:02,839
Speaker 3: And Billy says, Bill, I think we got the sound.

693
00:32:03,160 --> 00:32:07,440
He pushes play is the overdub, and Bill goes, that's it. Oh, yes,

694
00:32:07,559 --> 00:32:09,480
kind yeah, we want you know, we.

695
00:32:09,440 --> 00:32:12,279
Speaker 4: Haven't even really talked about how zz top got their name, right,

696
00:32:12,440 --> 00:32:14,440
And so in the early days they had all these

697
00:32:14,480 --> 00:32:17,880
posters of blues artists that they collected, and so you

698
00:32:17,960 --> 00:32:21,200
had BB King, you had zz Hill. So they said, well,

699
00:32:21,240 --> 00:32:23,920
we'll just merge those two and we'll become zz King.

700
00:32:24,200 --> 00:32:27,720
Yeah that just sounds really close to BB King, but

701
00:32:27,880 --> 00:32:29,480
you know the King is at the top.

702
00:32:29,799 --> 00:32:33,279
Speaker 2: So they're like, there we go, zz Top. That's it.

703
00:32:33,640 --> 00:32:34,680
Genius right. Yeah.

704
00:32:34,720 --> 00:32:37,079
Speaker 3: By the way, I can't tell you how many times

705
00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:40,519
I have drawn the interlocking Z's while board.

706
00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 2: High school classes.

707
00:32:42,480 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 4: Hey, speaking of board. Yeah, the zz top wave.

708
00:32:47,400 --> 00:32:49,000
Speaker 2: Right that they show in this video.

709
00:32:49,119 --> 00:32:50,880
Speaker 4: Yeah, the reason why they came up with that is

710
00:32:50,960 --> 00:32:53,079
they took like twenty takes. They're like, okay, guys, wave

711
00:32:53,119 --> 00:32:55,279
with the camera, wave with the camera, wave with the camera,

712
00:32:55,599 --> 00:32:57,559
Like that sucks, We'll come back to you, guys. And

713
00:32:57,599 --> 00:33:01,000
then like so they kind of choreographed it as that

714
00:33:01,119 --> 00:33:03,960
kind of lean in cool way.

715
00:33:03,680 --> 00:33:06,400
Speaker 3: Right, Getting back to the long point that I was making.

716
00:33:07,039 --> 00:33:10,279
Whenever Bill Ham I think gets the idea that Lennon

717
00:33:10,319 --> 00:33:12,799
Hudson is heavily involved in these songs, I think he

718
00:33:12,839 --> 00:33:14,799
probably puts his foot down and says, we are not

719
00:33:15,359 --> 00:33:18,640
going to add another artist credit, right, So on this

720
00:33:18,720 --> 00:33:21,519
album you don't see his name. You've got several songs

721
00:33:21,559 --> 00:33:24,880
that he's heavily involved with, not only writing but also

722
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,720
producing and playing on them, and he gets no credit,

723
00:33:29,079 --> 00:33:31,440
and he keeps waiting for something to happen, and eventually

724
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:35,000
he gives up and he sues them. Yeah, and he

725
00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:37,599
breaks ties with Billy, moves out of his house. I mean,

726
00:33:37,599 --> 00:33:39,559
they were freaking living together. I don't remember what he

727
00:33:39,599 --> 00:33:42,880
was asking for, but what he ultimately got was six

728
00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:47,480
hundred thousand dollars, which sounds like a lot, except that

729
00:33:47,559 --> 00:33:49,440
this is a huge album, so it seems like it

730
00:33:49,480 --> 00:33:52,279
should be more. And then you have to think his

731
00:33:52,359 --> 00:33:55,400
attorney's got a third of that. That acts it down

732
00:33:55,400 --> 00:33:59,319
four hundred thousand, and then his publisher got half of

733
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:01,079
what he got, and so that knocks it down to

734
00:34:01,119 --> 00:34:05,519
two hundred thousand. So was it worth severing ties with

735
00:34:06,039 --> 00:34:08,280
zz top for two hundred thousand dollars?

736
00:34:08,559 --> 00:34:10,519
Speaker 4: Well, I guess it would be if he got no

737
00:34:10,559 --> 00:34:12,039
credit on the next album as well.

738
00:34:12,079 --> 00:34:14,079
Speaker 2: You know, right, it's a bummer of a thing. It

739
00:34:14,119 --> 00:34:14,880
is a bummer everything.

740
00:34:15,679 --> 00:34:18,320
Speaker 3: Their first their first charting song. This is just to

741
00:34:18,559 --> 00:34:20,519
just to say how this goes. Their first charting song

742
00:34:20,639 --> 00:34:24,320
was a song named Francine. Yeah she's only thirteen. Yeah

743
00:34:24,519 --> 00:34:26,800
that's a little creepy, right, Yeah. Well, the guys who

744
00:34:26,840 --> 00:34:30,599
actually wrote that song for them didn't get credit until

745
00:34:30,599 --> 00:34:33,880
the two thousands, like Franccene would have been about fifty five.

746
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,440
Speaker 2: They ultimately got credit for the software. Wow, yeah, all right,

747
00:34:41,480 --> 00:34:43,119
were done with sharp dress man. I guess we got

748
00:34:43,239 --> 00:34:44,000
to move on, all right.

749
00:34:44,679 --> 00:34:46,559
Speaker 4: Next song on the album, song number four. This song

750
00:34:46,679 --> 00:34:48,320
is called I Need You Tonight.

751
00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:13,760
Speaker 7: Losy Ballady Sweet Goodness.

752
00:35:13,960 --> 00:35:16,719
Speaker 4: I still I'm all in four tracks and I love

753
00:35:16,719 --> 00:35:17,000
this song.

754
00:35:18,039 --> 00:35:21,960
Speaker 3: It is almost slow danceable at the high school gym.

755
00:35:22,039 --> 00:35:25,159
Speaker 2: It's it's make outable. Oh, it's definitely make outable.

756
00:35:26,320 --> 00:35:29,880
Speaker 3: Like to me, this is this is like you're you're

757
00:35:29,920 --> 00:35:32,719
at the pool hall and the wee hours of.

758
00:35:32,719 --> 00:35:35,039
Speaker 2: The morning, three o'clock there.

759
00:35:36,119 --> 00:35:39,519
Speaker 3: And the girl that's still around that is not she

760
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:40,440
hadn't gone home yet.

761
00:35:41,039 --> 00:35:42,960
Speaker 2: You wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating grinders.

762
00:35:43,760 --> 00:35:46,239
So time to say hello, there you go.

763
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:51,320
Speaker 6: Yes, this is kind of that oozing, that bluesy sexuality.

764
00:35:51,360 --> 00:36:11,519
Speaker 2: You know, for sure love it. I love this story.

765
00:36:11,599 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 4: So when they were first starting out, they played at

766
00:36:13,800 --> 00:36:16,440
a show in Alvin, Texas. It's one of those deals

767
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:18,559
where they're hoping for a sellout, be happy if it's

768
00:36:18,599 --> 00:36:21,239
half full. Curtain goes up. One guy in the crowd

769
00:36:21,639 --> 00:36:25,840
run and not only that, he's looking around.

770
00:36:25,599 --> 00:36:26,280
Speaker 2: Like that's it.

771
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,639
Speaker 4: Just me, good night, everybody, I'm out of here.

772
00:36:29,800 --> 00:36:33,039
Speaker 6: And there and they said from the stage, They're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait,

773
00:36:33,159 --> 00:36:33,639
stay put.

774
00:36:33,760 --> 00:36:35,880
Speaker 4: We'll play a whole set for you, just for you,

775
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:36,920
just for you, man.

776
00:36:37,079 --> 00:36:37,480
Speaker 2: Just stay.

777
00:36:37,679 --> 00:36:39,920
Speaker 6: So they kind of gilted the guy into sticking around.

778
00:36:40,079 --> 00:36:42,039
And then like halfway through they took a break. They

779
00:36:42,079 --> 00:36:44,199
went down, talked to him, bought him a coke, and

780
00:36:44,239 --> 00:36:46,719
he said, that guy still comes around. He still comes

781
00:36:46,719 --> 00:36:47,519
his easytop show.

782
00:36:47,559 --> 00:36:49,800
Speaker 2: He don't know his name. He won't tell him his name.

783
00:36:49,920 --> 00:36:50,800
Asked the dude his.

784
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:54,119
Speaker 3: Name, yeah, and he and he just says, hey, remember me,

785
00:36:54,199 --> 00:36:55,199
I'm that guy, And they're like.

786
00:36:55,159 --> 00:36:58,199
Speaker 2: Of course, we remember you. The guy is the best

787
00:36:58,199 --> 00:36:58,880
story we have.

788
00:37:01,400 --> 00:37:01,960
Speaker 7: I love it.

789
00:37:02,079 --> 00:37:02,719
Speaker 2: I love it.

790
00:37:02,719 --> 00:37:04,239
Speaker 4: In nineteen eighty four, I don't know if you know

791
00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:07,639
this or not. Nineteen eighty four, Billy and Dusty were

792
00:37:07,679 --> 00:37:11,800
offered one million dollars by Gillette to shave I.

793
00:37:11,679 --> 00:37:14,280
Speaker 3: Do remember that, Yeah, yeah, I remember when it had happened,

794
00:37:14,480 --> 00:37:16,760
and I remember that they said no, and I remember

795
00:37:16,800 --> 00:37:18,719
thinking at the time, oh my gosh, I can't believe that.

796
00:37:18,760 --> 00:37:22,519
And now it's in retrospect, I'm like, of course, not, no,

797
00:37:22,559 --> 00:37:24,559
they're making way more than a million dollars.

798
00:37:24,719 --> 00:37:25,840
Speaker 2: Well, and here's the other thing.

799
00:37:25,960 --> 00:37:28,440
Speaker 4: When you look at pictures of say, Billy Gibbons in

800
00:37:28,559 --> 00:37:31,440
nineteen seventy three, and you look at him now, it

801
00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:33,000
looks like two different individuals.

802
00:37:33,039 --> 00:37:37,199
Speaker 3: Dude, when they got together, he looked like the guy

803
00:37:37,280 --> 00:37:39,840
that you'd bring your computer to to get fixed. I

804
00:37:39,840 --> 00:37:42,679
mean he had or maybe at that point, since it's

805
00:37:42,760 --> 00:37:49,000
long enough ago, he looked like your sophomore year geography teacher,

806
00:37:49,519 --> 00:37:54,480
like I mean, receding hairline, no beard, Harry Potter, round glasses.

807
00:37:54,679 --> 00:37:57,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, he just looked like a nerd.

808
00:37:57,559 --> 00:38:01,320
Speaker 4: And now that beard gives him that cool the glasses

809
00:38:01,320 --> 00:38:02,559
and their face is hidden.

810
00:38:02,880 --> 00:38:04,159
Speaker 2: Don't really know what they look like.

811
00:38:04,400 --> 00:38:06,639
Speaker 4: Yeah, their trademark can't shave the beard.

812
00:38:06,840 --> 00:38:07,119
Speaker 2: Right.

813
00:38:07,239 --> 00:38:09,760
Speaker 3: And here's another thing that happened in nineteen eighty four.

814
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,519
Dusty who would keep a Darren your pistol in his boot,

815
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:18,079
dropped it and shot himself in the abdomen. What shot

816
00:38:18,159 --> 00:38:22,360
himself in the abdomen, drove himself to the hospital and

817
00:38:22,599 --> 00:38:27,360
passed out just after walking into the camr. Wow, obviously

818
00:38:27,360 --> 00:38:29,599
he recovered, you know, God rest his soul. He passed

819
00:38:29,639 --> 00:38:31,880
away just about two and a half years ago. I

820
00:38:31,920 --> 00:38:34,880
guess he did ju live twenty one right. Yeah, so

821
00:38:35,000 --> 00:38:38,360
the beards, Yeah, the beards came about, like we said,

822
00:38:38,400 --> 00:38:41,880
after they had their three year hiatus. That hiatus happened

823
00:38:41,960 --> 00:38:46,559
after their worldwide Texas tour, right, which is a thing

824
00:38:46,559 --> 00:38:49,400
of renown. This is where the rest of the country

825
00:38:49,880 --> 00:38:53,360
was introduced to Texas, and they did it their own way.

826
00:38:53,480 --> 00:38:56,159
They went and got an entire animal show. I mean

827
00:38:56,159 --> 00:39:02,159
they had buffalo and longhorn and buzzards, rattlesnakes. So they

828
00:39:02,239 --> 00:39:03,880
finished with this huge I mean a year and a

829
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:07,440
half long tour after they've been doing multiple albums and

830
00:39:07,480 --> 00:39:09,840
they take this big break. Like you said, Billy went

831
00:39:10,159 --> 00:39:14,440
and toured Europe. Frank went into rehab. Like he said,

832
00:39:14,480 --> 00:39:16,280
at some point during that tour, I got a check

833
00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:19,199
for seventy two thousand dollars and that was the first

834
00:39:19,320 --> 00:39:22,639
really big check I ever got, and I spent every

835
00:39:22,679 --> 00:39:27,280
single penny of it on drugs, LSD, heroin, cocaine, and

836
00:39:27,400 --> 00:39:29,800
you name it. He was doing it, yep. And at

837
00:39:29,800 --> 00:39:31,639
some point he was like, I would like to live

838
00:39:31,679 --> 00:39:34,159
like normal people, where I can just watch TV at

839
00:39:34,239 --> 00:39:36,159
night and then go to bed and I'd be okay.

840
00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,920
So he checked himself into a rehab during that time,

841
00:39:39,119 --> 00:39:41,920
and then this is I love this. Dusty Hill whose

842
00:39:41,960 --> 00:39:45,719
given name is Joe went to work in an airport. Yeah,

843
00:39:45,960 --> 00:39:47,480
maybe had a name tag that.

844
00:39:47,480 --> 00:39:51,639
Speaker 8: Said Joe, and he said it was fantastic because nobody

845
00:39:51,719 --> 00:39:55,760
recognized me. I was just another guy working stiff like

846
00:39:55,840 --> 00:39:58,079
all these other guys, and I would go to the

847
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:00,000
bar with them at night and we'd just hang out

848
00:40:00,079 --> 00:40:02,519
out and drink beers and it just felt so normal

849
00:40:02,559 --> 00:40:05,400
and nice. And he said, and on the rare occasion

850
00:40:05,440 --> 00:40:08,119
that somebody would recognize me and come up and say something,

851
00:40:08,400 --> 00:40:10,320
I'd be like, do you really think i'd be here

852
00:40:10,400 --> 00:40:11,679
right now if I was that guy?

853
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:15,239
Speaker 2: Of course I'm not him. That's that's a crazy story, man.

854
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:15,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

855
00:40:15,760 --> 00:40:18,360
Speaker 2: So when they ultimately get back together from all.

856
00:40:18,280 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 3: Of that, all of them have been letting their beards

857
00:40:20,880 --> 00:40:26,400
grow for three years, well, Dusty and Billy for three years, yes, yeah,

858
00:40:26,440 --> 00:40:28,440
so they both got pretty well the wizard beard by

859
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:28,760
that point.

860
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,440
Speaker 2: Now, Frank had only been letting his grow for a

861
00:40:31,480 --> 00:40:31,880
little while.

862
00:40:31,920 --> 00:40:33,800
Speaker 3: By the way, did you notice I did not shave

863
00:40:33,880 --> 00:40:36,840
for this particular episode. You see you see it's it's

864
00:40:37,000 --> 00:40:38,880
still all pretty much around my face.

865
00:40:39,039 --> 00:40:39,440
Speaker 2: I see it.

866
00:40:39,519 --> 00:40:42,639
Speaker 3: That's about how long Frank's beard was. And he was like, well,

867
00:40:42,679 --> 00:40:44,480
I'm not going to be the guy with the little beard,

868
00:40:44,519 --> 00:40:46,280
so I'm just gonna shave it off. Yeah, I got

869
00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:47,639
the name, I don't need the beard.

870
00:40:49,480 --> 00:40:52,559
Speaker 4: Yeah, I heard Billy said, we still wrestle with whether

871
00:40:52,599 --> 00:40:53,079
we put.

872
00:40:52,880 --> 00:40:57,599
Speaker 2: The beard under the sheets or over the sheet. Okay,

873
00:40:57,599 --> 00:40:58,679
moving on to the next song.

874
00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:11,559
Speaker 4: This song is called I Got the six.

875
00:41:12,559 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 2: Okay.

876
00:41:13,199 --> 00:41:16,280
Speaker 3: Now, if you're familiar with Tush, yeah, and you know

877
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:18,719
that Dusty is the one singing on Tush.

878
00:41:18,920 --> 00:41:20,840
Speaker 2: You know Dusty is the one singing on this one.

879
00:41:21,119 --> 00:41:24,280
Speaker 9: Yeah, he is singing I Got the six, Give me

880
00:41:24,360 --> 00:41:33,159
your nine.

881
00:41:26,599 --> 00:41:26,920
Speaker 5: Give me.

882
00:41:34,119 --> 00:41:36,920
Speaker 2: So, I've got my list of sexual annual windows songs.

883
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:38,800
You ready for this? This is easy top. They're known

884
00:41:38,840 --> 00:41:39,079
for this.

885
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:41,920
Speaker 4: Yeah, obviously this is I've got the six, You give

886
00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:42,599
me your nine.

887
00:41:42,880 --> 00:41:43,400
Speaker 2: H huh.

888
00:41:43,519 --> 00:41:46,519
Speaker 4: I believe we're talking about what they call sixty nine.

889
00:41:46,719 --> 00:41:49,119
Speaker 3: By the way, that is what Francine reached. That was

890
00:41:49,159 --> 00:41:52,159
their first chart The first song in the charts was Francine.

891
00:41:52,360 --> 00:41:58,440
Speaker 2: It reached sixty nine. Dude, excellent. All right. So they

892
00:41:58,440 --> 00:42:00,000
have a song called Pearl Necklace.

893
00:42:00,039 --> 00:42:04,159
Speaker 3: Yes, yes, we cannot say any more about what that means.

894
00:42:04,440 --> 00:42:06,880
Speaker 4: I'm just saying that's it's a song called Pearl Necklace.

895
00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:07,679
Speaker 2: Yes, Okay.

896
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,880
Speaker 4: They've got a song called Tube Snake Boogie. Yeah, They've

897
00:42:10,880 --> 00:42:13,400
got a song They'll crow Fly, which if you look

898
00:42:13,440 --> 00:42:15,559
at the lyrics. It says, well, it feels so right

899
00:42:15,599 --> 00:42:18,039
when you squeeze it tight, when you reach the end.

900
00:42:18,119 --> 00:42:18,960
Speaker 2: Do it over again.

901
00:42:19,239 --> 00:42:21,599
Speaker 4: Okay, then you've got of course, you got tush just

902
00:42:21,639 --> 00:42:24,280
looking for some You've got a song called gun Love.

903
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,800
She'll shoot you full of love till your love bone

904
00:42:27,840 --> 00:42:29,320
aches you love bone.

905
00:42:29,440 --> 00:42:32,679
Speaker 6: Yeah, and then of course I mean give me all

906
00:42:32,679 --> 00:42:35,400
your loving says if I blow my top, will you

907
00:42:35,440 --> 00:42:36,440
let it go to your head?

908
00:42:36,639 --> 00:42:40,039
Speaker 2: Yes, that's a venue window there. They were poets with

909
00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:41,400
the sexual euphemism.

910
00:42:41,559 --> 00:42:44,679
Speaker 4: Yeah, were right, absolutely, slip inside my sleeping bag.

911
00:42:45,559 --> 00:42:48,960
Speaker 3: So he'll singing on this one. He typically sings back up.

912
00:42:49,000 --> 00:42:51,280
Most songs he sings back up, but sometimes he sings lead,

913
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:53,800
and sometimes they'll have a back and forth between them.

914
00:42:53,840 --> 00:42:54,519
Speaker 2: Did you know that?

915
00:42:54,519 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 3: Then this particular album, you've got some other vocal harmonies

916
00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:02,519
by a guy named Jimmy Shannison.

917
00:43:02,159 --> 00:43:04,840
Speaker 4: The guy from Survivor, WHOA.

918
00:43:04,960 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 2: It was only with Cobra at this time.

919
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:08,960
Speaker 3: He had not made it to Survivor yet, but yes,

920
00:43:09,599 --> 00:43:12,400
he was the lead singer for Cobra and Survivor, and

921
00:43:12,440 --> 00:43:15,519
they called him up and said, hey, you do some

922
00:43:15,559 --> 00:43:16,280
backend vocals.

923
00:43:16,360 --> 00:43:19,320
Speaker 4: Jimmy Jamison the guy who replaced the dude who sang

924
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:20,639
on I the Tiger.

925
00:43:20,599 --> 00:43:23,679
Speaker 2: The guy who sang the bay Watch team.

926
00:43:24,320 --> 00:43:30,679
Speaker 4: That's it, that's right in the Burning Heart. Okay, hit

927
00:43:30,719 --> 00:43:33,039
stop on your tape player, kick it out, flip it

928
00:43:33,079 --> 00:43:36,519
over side to. We're starting off with the biggie. This

929
00:43:36,559 --> 00:43:54,360
is a big one songs called legs.

930
00:44:01,719 --> 00:44:05,559
Speaker 3: This is zzy top song about women empowerment. Yeah right,

931
00:44:05,920 --> 00:44:08,840
she's got legs and she knows how to use it.

932
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:13,159
Speaker 6: So this was inspired by a true story. Yeah, Billy

933
00:44:13,199 --> 00:44:14,320
Gibbons drive down the road.

934
00:44:14,639 --> 00:44:16,559
Speaker 4: No, this is it starts raining a little bit girl

935
00:44:16,599 --> 00:44:19,159
tries to flag him down by showing some leg gets

936
00:44:19,199 --> 00:44:20,519
a little further pastor He's like.

937
00:44:20,559 --> 00:44:22,480
Speaker 2: You know what, I really should go help that woman.

938
00:44:24,079 --> 00:44:27,760
Speaker 4: Turns around, goes back, can't find her. The mystery woman vanished,

939
00:44:28,079 --> 00:44:31,239
but he said to himself, the girl had legs, she.

940
00:44:31,239 --> 00:44:34,559
Speaker 2: Knew how to use them. It's great. Right.

941
00:44:34,639 --> 00:44:38,320
Speaker 3: This is the last in the Eliminator Give Me All

942
00:44:38,360 --> 00:44:39,320
Your Love and trilogy.

943
00:44:39,519 --> 00:44:39,719
Speaker 2: Yep.

944
00:44:39,760 --> 00:44:43,360
Speaker 3: This is the third video directed by Tim Newman, and

945
00:44:43,559 --> 00:44:48,679
this is the one where the three Very God playmates,

946
00:44:48,719 --> 00:44:52,119
if you will, hey come in.

947
00:44:52,199 --> 00:44:54,920
Speaker 2: They instead of rescuing a guy or taking a guy

948
00:44:55,000 --> 00:44:56,000
on a little car trip.

949
00:44:56,199 --> 00:44:59,840
Speaker 3: Hey Rescu, Yeah, yeah, I love this video. I almost

950
00:45:00,039 --> 00:45:02,760
her up with this because I'm like, all these bullet's

951
00:45:02,800 --> 00:45:04,719
picking on her, and there's some people out there that

952
00:45:04,800 --> 00:45:05,480
do the right thing.

953
00:45:07,840 --> 00:45:09,920
Speaker 4: Okay, So I've got some names for you on this one.

954
00:45:10,000 --> 00:45:13,360
Speaker 2: Okay. So the actress who is the young woman who

955
00:45:13,360 --> 00:45:15,519
works at the shoe store there everybody's picking on. Her

956
00:45:15,599 --> 00:45:18,679
name is Wendy Frasier. She turned twenty one during the shoot.

957
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:20,280
Twenty one years old. Wow.

958
00:45:20,519 --> 00:45:23,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, that just just put that in perspective. That means

959
00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:24,880
she's sixty one this year.

960
00:45:24,960 --> 00:45:25,480
Speaker 2: My gosh.

961
00:45:25,559 --> 00:45:25,920
Speaker 5: Wow.

962
00:45:26,480 --> 00:45:29,519
Speaker 4: She had starred in another video directed by Tim Newman,

963
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:34,559
by the world famous artist Baxter Robertson and his world

964
00:45:34,639 --> 00:45:36,159
famous song called silver.

965
00:45:35,960 --> 00:45:39,920
Speaker 2: Strand uh ringing a bell not ranging a bell. So

966
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:42,119
he thought, well, crap, since that didn't really do anything,

967
00:45:42,159 --> 00:45:42,880
I'll grab her.

968
00:45:42,920 --> 00:45:45,440
Speaker 4: We'll try this thing again. We'll do something different with her.

969
00:45:46,280 --> 00:45:48,599
And he ended up dating that girl. And he's like, hey,

970
00:45:48,599 --> 00:45:50,239
what could I say? You spend time with people you

971
00:45:50,239 --> 00:45:53,480
started to date it. Yeah, we've got Gina Tomasino or

972
00:45:53,639 --> 00:45:57,440
Gina Keo, who was in the oc oc.

973
00:45:57,519 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, we mentioned that she was playmate of nineteen eighty.

974
00:46:01,079 --> 00:46:02,880
She was November of Night Tote November.

975
00:46:02,960 --> 00:46:06,199
Speaker 3: Sorry, hey, you're still in November.

976
00:46:06,320 --> 00:46:10,039
Speaker 4: We are November nineteen eighty, that's forty three years ago.

977
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,320
Then you've got Danielle arnand we talked about her.

978
00:46:13,360 --> 00:46:14,400
Speaker 2: She was the girl from France.

979
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,199
Speaker 4: Yes, then you have the beautiful Kimberly Harron.

980
00:46:17,360 --> 00:46:18,000
Speaker 2: There we go.

981
00:46:18,519 --> 00:46:21,360
Speaker 4: She was Miss March nineteen eighty one in Playland vazine.

982
00:46:21,440 --> 00:46:24,039
She was also the Blue Club ghost from Ghostbusters.

983
00:46:24,119 --> 00:46:27,199
Speaker 3: You can't say family friendly radio.

984
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:27,920
Speaker 2: Sorry? Sorry?

985
00:46:29,199 --> 00:46:29,360
Speaker 3: Now.

986
00:46:29,400 --> 00:46:31,760
Speaker 4: Then I sent you a text the other day she

987
00:46:31,840 --> 00:46:34,119
was in Romance in the Stone, and I said, Dee,

988
00:46:34,599 --> 00:46:37,280
do you remember when this girl was in Romance in

989
00:46:37,320 --> 00:46:40,159
the Stone and you could really place her. She is

990
00:46:40,280 --> 00:46:45,039
the beautiful woman who is starring in Joan Wilder's novel

991
00:46:45,159 --> 00:46:48,440
that's kind of like this imaginary character the very beginning

992
00:46:48,440 --> 00:46:49,159
of Romance.

993
00:46:48,920 --> 00:46:49,480
Speaker 2: In the Stone.

994
00:46:49,559 --> 00:46:53,639
Speaker 3: Yes, I remember the barely hanging on white shirt exactly.

995
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,519
Speaker 4: She takes revenge on the man who shot her dog

996
00:46:56,639 --> 00:47:02,840
and stole her bible. This song reached number eight on

997
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:05,360
the Hot one hundred. Yeah, okay, now listen to this.

998
00:47:05,880 --> 00:47:07,760
I can't wait to go through this top eight with you.

999
00:47:08,199 --> 00:47:11,000
This is July twenty first, nineteen eighty four. This is

1000
00:47:11,039 --> 00:47:13,639
an all star Shirley Top Top eight right here.

1001
00:47:13,719 --> 00:47:16,519
Speaker 2: Okay, all right, I'm excited. Okay. So number eight is Legs.

1002
00:47:16,679 --> 00:47:20,199
Speaker 4: Number seven is Almost Paradised by Mike Reno and Ann

1003
00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:21,119
Wilson from the.

1004
00:47:22,800 --> 00:47:23,639
Speaker 2: Footloose soundtrack.

1005
00:47:24,480 --> 00:47:27,840
Speaker 4: Number six, no joke is Deeff Dave's favorite song from

1006
00:47:27,880 --> 00:47:30,719
nineteen eighty four, which nobody else cares about. It's called

1007
00:47:31,280 --> 00:47:35,719
State of Shock Michael Jackson and Mick Jagger. For those

1008
00:47:35,760 --> 00:47:36,599
of you don't remember.

1009
00:47:36,679 --> 00:47:39,559
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's a long yep, I remember it, but wow.

1010
00:47:39,800 --> 00:47:42,400
Right then you've got Jumped for My Love by the

1011
00:47:42,440 --> 00:47:44,679
Pointer sisters. I remember that one to you.

1012
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:45,320
Speaker 5: Yeah. Yeah.

1013
00:47:45,400 --> 00:47:47,760
Speaker 4: Number four is Eyes Without a Face by Billy Idol.

1014
00:47:47,960 --> 00:47:50,719
Oh all right, we'll be covering that one next week.

1015
00:47:50,880 --> 00:47:54,519
Speaker 2: Yeah. Number three is Ghostbusters by Ray Parker Jr. Huh.

1016
00:47:54,679 --> 00:47:57,639
Number two is Dancing in the Dark by Bruce Springsteen. Wow, okay.

1017
00:47:57,760 --> 00:48:00,480
And number one is wind Dove's Cry by Prince nineteen

1018
00:48:00,519 --> 00:48:04,960
eighty four. Man, dude, who power? What a lineup? Seriously?

1019
00:48:05,159 --> 00:48:08,440
Speaker 4: Okay, I can't leave Legs without talking about the furry

1020
00:48:08,639 --> 00:48:09,960
rotating guitars.

1021
00:48:10,159 --> 00:48:14,840
Speaker 3: Yeah, that idea actually came from Billy's earlier band, the

1022
00:48:14,880 --> 00:48:17,119
movie Sidewalks, whose name is Don Summers. He was the

1023
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:21,000
bass player and it was his idea to have spinning guitars.

1024
00:48:21,159 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 2: Idea is it's hooked.

1025
00:48:22,559 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 3: To your belt buckle and you've got a rotating electric

1026
00:48:26,320 --> 00:48:29,239
conduit there. Yeah, that's how you still get powered to

1027
00:48:29,239 --> 00:48:31,880
the guitar and are able to spin it in full three.

1028
00:48:31,880 --> 00:48:36,039
Speaker 4: Sixty once again magical on the music video, it is

1029
00:48:36,159 --> 00:48:38,079
eye catching and super cool.

1030
00:48:38,280 --> 00:48:38,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1031
00:48:38,639 --> 00:48:41,079
Speaker 4: So the next song on the album is a song

1032
00:48:41,119 --> 00:48:52,719
called Thug.

1033
00:49:09,320 --> 00:49:12,039
Speaker 3: I can remember as I'm driving down the road listening

1034
00:49:12,039 --> 00:49:13,800
to this song. This was not one that was kind

1035
00:49:13,800 --> 00:49:16,519
of in my rotation when I had this CD way

1036
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:18,920
back when, right, But I heard this one and I

1037
00:49:18,960 --> 00:49:23,119
texted you and I said, thug song Miami Vice would

1038
00:49:23,159 --> 00:49:25,679
play for a villain from Texas.

1039
00:49:25,880 --> 00:49:28,199
Speaker 2: Yeah, I could see it. Yeah, absolutely, you know, the

1040
00:49:28,239 --> 00:49:29,920
beginning of this kind of reminds me of the song

1041
00:49:29,960 --> 00:49:32,719
one night in Bangkok. He just added those keyboards. I

1042
00:49:32,760 --> 00:49:33,480
think it's.

1043
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,000
Speaker 3: Very synthy, right, And this was the one that was

1044
00:49:36,159 --> 00:49:38,880
written by Lennon Hudson, and I mean he.

1045
00:49:38,840 --> 00:49:40,800
Speaker 2: Did it all basically, it was his song.

1046
00:49:40,920 --> 00:49:42,400
Speaker 3: It was his song and he didn't get any credit

1047
00:49:42,480 --> 00:49:42,840
for it.

1048
00:49:42,880 --> 00:49:45,119
Speaker 4: Billy Gibbons is like, hey, like that song, how can

1049
00:49:45,199 --> 00:49:45,960
I steal it from you?

1050
00:49:46,039 --> 00:49:46,960
Speaker 2: For ever?

1051
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:50,079
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you're Billy Gibbons, this song isn't worth not

1052
00:49:50,119 --> 00:49:52,239
giving somebody credit for it, Like, it's not. I mean,

1053
00:49:52,280 --> 00:49:54,320
it's not a game changer, right. I don't think there's

1054
00:49:54,320 --> 00:49:57,719
a skipper on this entire album, but if there was, this.

1055
00:49:57,679 --> 00:50:00,639
Speaker 2: Would be one. I totally agree this is the one. Yeah, okay,

1056
00:50:01,000 --> 00:50:02,880
next song. That being said, let's jump for the next one.

1057
00:50:02,880 --> 00:50:14,880
Speaker 4: So the next song on the album is called TV Dinners.

1058
00:50:23,920 --> 00:50:26,119
Speaker 3: So this has got another little synth part in it,

1059
00:50:26,159 --> 00:50:29,119
but it's much more guitar passed. It's much more like

1060
00:50:29,159 --> 00:50:32,519
their older stuff. But it really to me reminds me

1061
00:50:32,800 --> 00:50:39,880
of Our Loves and Jeopardy by the Great Kilnband is

1062
00:50:40,199 --> 00:50:42,840
very which and that immediately makes me go to weird

1063
00:50:42,840 --> 00:50:44,119
ol and I lost on Jeopardy.

1064
00:50:44,159 --> 00:50:45,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, I can totally see that.

1065
00:50:45,039 --> 00:50:47,199
Speaker 4: In fact, I was texting with Doug Gray, friends of

1066
00:50:47,199 --> 00:50:49,079
the show, and I was asking him what he thought

1067
00:50:49,119 --> 00:50:50,119
about Eliminator, you.

1068
00:50:50,039 --> 00:50:51,159
Speaker 2: Know what song stood out to him?

1069
00:50:51,159 --> 00:50:53,920
Speaker 4: And he's like, TV Dinners is the greatest weird al

1070
00:50:54,039 --> 00:50:55,880
song not sung by weird out.

1071
00:50:57,960 --> 00:51:00,119
Speaker 3: It is perfect And this is the last one they

1072
00:51:00,159 --> 00:51:02,880
had a video for, but they didn't have Tim Newman

1073
00:51:02,960 --> 00:51:03,599
direct this one.

1074
00:51:03,840 --> 00:51:04,679
Speaker 7: Totally out of place.

1075
00:51:04,760 --> 00:51:08,039
Speaker 4: It's a complete shift in the style of videos.

1076
00:51:07,800 --> 00:51:11,400
Speaker 3: Absolute departure. They use claymation in this thing. It's it's

1077
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:13,239
kind of a weird like almost like.

1078
00:51:13,320 --> 00:51:17,440
Speaker 4: Goolies second Goblin. Yeah, who's reaching his arm out from

1079
00:51:17,559 --> 00:51:19,360
under the foil part of.

1080
00:51:19,360 --> 00:51:20,119
Speaker 2: The TV Dinner.

1081
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:24,360
Speaker 3: So we've talked about how these videos are so important

1082
00:51:24,480 --> 00:51:27,239
for MTV. I mean, like the style that Tim Newman

1083
00:51:27,320 --> 00:51:30,199
brought was an entirely different style for MTV at that point.

1084
00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:32,400
I mean, this is eighty three. This is a year

1085
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,280
and a few months after MTV makes its debut, right,

1086
00:51:36,320 --> 00:51:39,119
But we haven't talked about how the band first decided

1087
00:51:39,119 --> 00:51:39,840
to do videos.

1088
00:51:39,960 --> 00:51:40,599
Speaker 2: Yeah, tell me.

1089
00:51:40,840 --> 00:51:43,760
Speaker 3: So there it's six months before they start recording for

1090
00:51:43,880 --> 00:51:47,679
Eliminator and Frank calls up Dusty and he's like, hey man,

1091
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:49,920
this is this really good music show on TV right now.

1092
00:51:49,960 --> 00:51:51,679
You should check it out. It's like the it's like

1093
00:51:51,719 --> 00:51:53,920
the last channel, Like it's all the way at the end.

1094
00:51:54,000 --> 00:51:56,159
I don't know what's going on, but they've got a

1095
00:51:56,159 --> 00:51:57,159
good music show going on.

1096
00:51:57,159 --> 00:51:57,880
Speaker 2: You should check it out.

1097
00:51:57,880 --> 00:52:01,320
Speaker 3: It's been really cool, uh huh. And so then Dusty

1098
00:52:01,360 --> 00:52:03,280
starts watching. He's like, this is pretty good, and he

1099
00:52:03,360 --> 00:52:05,679
calls Billy and he's like, hey, you should check out

1100
00:52:05,679 --> 00:52:08,239
this TV show. It's all music stuff. It's really pretty cool.

1101
00:52:08,239 --> 00:52:10,559
You should check it out. And so he starts watching.

1102
00:52:10,679 --> 00:52:13,400
He watches for three hours, which is a good eight

1103
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:16,639
hours after Frank started watching, and then calls them both.

1104
00:52:16,679 --> 00:52:18,599
He's like, how long is this music show going to

1105
00:52:18,679 --> 00:52:19,119
go on?

1106
00:52:19,639 --> 00:52:22,760
Speaker 2: This is the longest thing I've ever seen. And that,

1107
00:52:22,880 --> 00:52:32,320
of course was their introduction to MTV twenty four hours

1108
00:52:32,320 --> 00:52:32,679
a day.

1109
00:52:32,679 --> 00:52:35,559
Speaker 4: Man, he could watch that until about nineteen ninety five,

1110
00:52:35,639 --> 00:52:37,320
and then you could have turned it off because there's

1111
00:52:37,360 --> 00:52:40,360
nothing worth it after that. Right, great story, great song,

1112
00:52:40,400 --> 00:52:43,920
This video though terrible. I mean the song's good, but

1113
00:52:43,960 --> 00:52:46,000
I think there's another song that I would have released

1114
00:52:46,039 --> 00:52:47,639
as a four single other than this one.

1115
00:52:47,760 --> 00:52:50,159
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it's I like the song, and I

1116
00:52:50,159 --> 00:52:51,280
would I listened to the song.

1117
00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:52,119
Speaker 2: It's a head bobber.

1118
00:52:52,280 --> 00:52:54,360
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is surprising to me that it's a single,

1119
00:52:54,400 --> 00:52:56,800
but it's it's still a good one, still a good one.

1120
00:52:56,840 --> 00:52:59,559
Speaker 2: Moving on, next song. Next song is called dirty Dog.

1121
00:53:12,960 --> 00:53:15,079
I think what you meant was the next song. It's

1122
00:53:15,119 --> 00:53:16,159
called Darter Got Home.

1123
00:53:19,559 --> 00:53:22,039
Speaker 4: So this is the song I would have released instead

1124
00:53:22,400 --> 00:53:24,079
of TV Dinners. I think this is a great song.

1125
00:53:24,119 --> 00:53:27,280
It's that one twenty beats per minute. It's peppy, it's danceable,

1126
00:53:27,320 --> 00:53:27,800
it's fun.

1127
00:53:27,920 --> 00:53:30,440
Speaker 2: Guitar's great, catchy. I like it. I like a lot

1128
00:53:30,440 --> 00:53:32,000
of guitars. I haven't tked guitars yet.

1129
00:53:32,039 --> 00:53:35,159
Speaker 3: I can't believe we're halfway or more through the second

1130
00:53:35,360 --> 00:53:37,440
side of the album and I haven't talked guitars yet. Okay,

1131
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:40,960
so for this one, he plays different guitars, right, sure,

1132
00:53:40,960 --> 00:53:44,800
for this one he did not use his Pearly Gates guitar,

1133
00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,880
but his Pearly Gates guitar is his most famous guitar.

1134
00:53:48,000 --> 00:53:49,800
And you said, you know the story on this, And

1135
00:53:49,840 --> 00:53:51,559
I said, so, you know what the girlfriend in the car?

1136
00:53:51,599 --> 00:53:54,239
Speaker 2: And you were like, no, I don't know about the girlfriend.

1137
00:53:54,440 --> 00:53:59,079
Speaker 3: So in nineteen sixty seven, he had a thirty six

1138
00:53:59,199 --> 00:54:02,119
Packard car. Yeah, thirty six, that's I mean, it's an

1139
00:54:02,119 --> 00:54:06,519
over thirty year old car, and it's a hunk of junk,

1140
00:54:06,599 --> 00:54:09,239
but it's runs well right right, And he's got this

1141
00:54:09,360 --> 00:54:12,960
girlfriend and she has this opportunity to go audition for

1142
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:17,159
a movie. Condy Hollywood, No, a real movie, a movie movie. Yeah,

1143
00:54:17,239 --> 00:54:19,519
but she's got no way to get out there, and Billy,

1144
00:54:19,559 --> 00:54:21,960
being the guy that he is, he says, why don't

1145
00:54:21,960 --> 00:54:24,159
you take my car? So he lets her drive this

1146
00:54:24,239 --> 00:54:28,000
thirty six packard all the way out from Texas to California.

1147
00:54:28,119 --> 00:54:30,719
She calls him up and she says, I got the part,

1148
00:54:30,960 --> 00:54:32,559
and I think it's because of the car.

1149
00:54:32,599 --> 00:54:33,199
Speaker 2: And he's like what.

1150
00:54:33,480 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 3: She's like, I just think I feel like there's like

1151
00:54:35,400 --> 00:54:39,639
a divine connection with this car, and I just I

1152
00:54:39,679 --> 00:54:41,480
think that's what it is. And he's like, well, I

1153
00:54:41,480 --> 00:54:44,320
guess we should call that car Pearly Gates love it

1154
00:54:44,639 --> 00:54:47,800
and she's she's like, yeah, that's great, I love that.

1155
00:54:47,920 --> 00:54:50,400
A little while later, she calls him up and she says, hey,

1156
00:54:50,400 --> 00:54:56,440
I sold that car. He's like, you do what. It's okay, though,

1157
00:54:56,519 --> 00:54:58,199
I'm going to send you the money. She sends him

1158
00:54:58,199 --> 00:55:00,960
the money she got from the car, two hundred fifty dollars.

1159
00:55:02,079 --> 00:55:04,559
As it turns out, there's a farmer in Houston that

1160
00:55:04,679 --> 00:55:06,840
had something he wanted that had just been sitting under

1161
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:07,119
the bed.

1162
00:55:07,280 --> 00:55:09,199
Speaker 2: Yes, so the guy was a former musician.

1163
00:55:09,320 --> 00:55:12,440
Speaker 4: He had a nineteen fifty nine less Paul and was ranching,

1164
00:55:12,639 --> 00:55:15,280
didn't want to didn't really need it anymore, and he

1165
00:55:15,440 --> 00:55:17,239
had told some people about it, and this guy called

1166
00:55:17,280 --> 00:55:19,039
Billy is like, Hey, this guy's got a nineteen fifty

1167
00:55:19,079 --> 00:55:19,639
nine less Paul.

1168
00:55:19,639 --> 00:55:20,960
Speaker 2: I think you need to go talk to this guy.

1169
00:55:21,039 --> 00:55:23,119
You guys out to see him. Guy says, well, I

1170
00:55:23,119 --> 00:55:24,639
don't know. Two hundred and fifty dollars.

1171
00:55:24,760 --> 00:55:27,280
Speaker 4: Pays two hundred and fifty dollars for that fifty nine

1172
00:55:27,320 --> 00:55:29,079
less Paul that he got from the sale of the car.

1173
00:55:29,239 --> 00:55:32,079
Last forward twenty years and he gets an offer by

1174
00:55:32,079 --> 00:55:36,559
a Japanese businessman to buy that guitar for five million dollars.

1175
00:55:36,800 --> 00:55:39,280
Uh huh, he wants ello. No, it's his sad it's

1176
00:55:39,280 --> 00:55:40,119
the Zzy Top.

1177
00:55:39,960 --> 00:55:44,480
Speaker 3: Sound is at least the pre beard Z for sure. Yeah,

1178
00:55:44,519 --> 00:55:48,199
all of those incredible bluesy sounds that they had for

1179
00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:52,840
their first six to seven albums are predominantly that guitar

1180
00:55:52,960 --> 00:55:55,519
that prilegates guitar, And to hear him talk about it,

1181
00:55:55,559 --> 00:55:57,840
I mean he still kind of revers it, like it's

1182
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:00,360
this divine thing and we're talking about it an.

1183
00:56:00,440 --> 00:56:04,559
Speaker 2: Ordained minister here. Billy Gibbons is Reverend Willie.

1184
00:56:04,199 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 3: All right, and he's got a barbecue sauce too, called

1185
00:56:06,920 --> 00:56:08,440
Reverend Willie's Barbecue Sauce.

1186
00:56:08,719 --> 00:56:11,000
Speaker 2: But he talks about this guitar.

1187
00:56:10,719 --> 00:56:13,199
Speaker 3: And he says, when she was born, it was like

1188
00:56:13,320 --> 00:56:15,800
everything came together exactly as it should.

1189
00:56:16,079 --> 00:56:20,760
Speaker 2: The wood is perfect, the electronics are perfect. Everything is

1190
00:56:20,840 --> 00:56:23,639
set in such a beautiful way, straight out of the box.

1191
00:56:24,039 --> 00:56:26,559
Could not be a better guitar. I love it.

1192
00:56:26,639 --> 00:56:29,199
Speaker 4: Yeah, I have to order some of that barbecue sauce man.

1193
00:56:29,440 --> 00:56:30,119
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1194
00:56:30,280 --> 00:56:32,400
Speaker 3: By the way, side note, did you know that Billy

1195
00:56:32,400 --> 00:56:34,519
has acted in a TV show called Bones. You know

1196
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:35,239
the show Bones?

1197
00:56:35,320 --> 00:56:35,400
Speaker 5: Right?

1198
00:56:35,480 --> 00:56:35,760
Speaker 2: Yeah?

1199
00:56:35,880 --> 00:56:38,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, So he had a recurring character would show up

1200
00:56:38,239 --> 00:56:39,760
once a year or every few years or whatever. But

1201
00:56:39,800 --> 00:56:44,159
he's the father of the girl character. The girl character's.

1202
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:49,239
Speaker 2: Name is Angela. Middle names Pearly Gates Montenegro. Oh.

1203
00:56:49,639 --> 00:56:54,320
Speaker 3: I love that he is playing a fictionalized version of himself.

1204
00:56:54,400 --> 00:56:56,239
Speaker 2: My WiFi shoes that show. I'm gonna ask her about that.

1205
00:56:56,239 --> 00:56:57,199
That's cool. Yeah.

1206
00:56:57,400 --> 00:57:00,400
Speaker 3: Dusty has also been in a TV show Kink of

1207
00:57:00,440 --> 00:57:06,199
the Hill, where Dusty Hill plays the cousin of Think Hill.

1208
00:57:06,800 --> 00:57:07,400
Speaker 7: How about that?

1209
00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:08,000
Speaker 5: There you go?

1210
00:57:11,400 --> 00:57:13,400
Speaker 4: Okay, next song on the album is a song called

1211
00:57:13,480 --> 00:57:15,159
if I Could Only Flag Her Down.

1212
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:27,000
Speaker 2: You got some Texas boogie going on in this one.

1213
00:57:27,039 --> 00:57:27,199
Speaker 5: Man.

1214
00:57:27,280 --> 00:57:30,519
Speaker 2: This is old school's easy top for shore. Yeah.

1215
00:57:30,639 --> 00:57:32,320
Speaker 3: Quick side note. I've got nowhere else to put it,

1216
00:57:32,320 --> 00:57:35,159
so I'm gonna put it here. William Frederick Gibbons is

1217
00:57:35,199 --> 00:57:39,840
the son of Freddie Gibbons, who had the Freddie Gibbons Orchestra,

1218
00:57:40,320 --> 00:57:46,199
who worked very closely with his cousin Cedric Gibbons in Hollywood.

1219
00:57:46,400 --> 00:57:51,039
Cedric was the art director on over one thousand movies, okay,

1220
00:57:51,039 --> 00:57:53,320
including Gaslight, which is a pretty famous movie.

1221
00:57:53,400 --> 00:57:53,639
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1222
00:57:54,199 --> 00:57:57,639
Speaker 3: He also was the director on the second Tarzan movie,

1223
00:57:57,920 --> 00:58:00,480
like Tarzan Meets His Mate or whatever it is. He

1224
00:58:00,639 --> 00:58:03,639
was the director of that I Love Jane. His key

1225
00:58:03,719 --> 00:58:07,159
claim to fame is this is Billy Gibbons's Uncle's key

1226
00:58:07,199 --> 00:58:10,840
claim to fame is he designed the statue for the Oscars.

1227
00:58:11,079 --> 00:58:14,159
Speaker 2: You are kidding me. I am here to blow your mind.

1228
00:58:14,239 --> 00:58:18,840
Don't let it go to your head. That's an excellent

1229
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,840
use of a quotation right there, where to go?

1230
00:58:22,000 --> 00:58:24,559
Speaker 4: Thank you man, that's fantastic. You know the only thing

1231
00:58:24,599 --> 00:58:26,800
I was going to throw in for you. The Black

1232
00:58:26,800 --> 00:58:29,880
Crows were opening for zz Top early in the nineties,

1233
00:58:30,039 --> 00:58:32,280
Chris Robinson, who we hope to cover next year.

1234
00:58:32,360 --> 00:58:34,000
Speaker 2: We're going to talk about the Black Crows. Yeah.

1235
00:58:34,159 --> 00:58:37,079
Speaker 4: Zz Top had an endorsement deal with Miller Lyte and

1236
00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:39,519
they had some kind of become a little more corporatized

1237
00:58:39,679 --> 00:58:42,440
in their older age. Sure, and Chris Robinson the Black

1238
00:58:42,440 --> 00:58:44,679
Crows couldn't keep his mouth shut from the stage about

1239
00:58:44,719 --> 00:58:47,760
corporate deals and commercials and that type of thing, and

1240
00:58:47,840 --> 00:58:51,159
basically dared zz top to fire him from the stage,

1241
00:58:51,400 --> 00:58:52,079
and so they did.

1242
00:58:52,400 --> 00:58:56,119
Speaker 3: Wow antagonistic currently guy he is, and they were on

1243
00:58:56,159 --> 00:58:58,880
their way up and really achieved some heights in the

1244
00:58:58,920 --> 00:58:59,559
early nineties.

1245
00:58:59,599 --> 00:59:02,880
Speaker 2: But this easy Top guys said, get on out of here. Yeah,

1246
00:59:02,960 --> 00:59:04,760
another tidbit that I have nowhere else to throw in.

1247
00:59:04,840 --> 00:59:08,559
Speaker 3: Sure, Billy Gibbons, mom secretary for Lyndon Johnson, stop it.

1248
00:59:08,840 --> 00:59:11,199
I mean, probably not when he was president, Probably when

1249
00:59:11,199 --> 00:59:13,559
he was down in Texas where they were, but yeah,

1250
00:59:13,599 --> 00:59:14,280
down in Houston.

1251
00:59:14,760 --> 00:59:15,039
Speaker 7: Wow.

1252
00:59:15,639 --> 00:59:16,800
Speaker 2: Okay. Last song on the album.

1253
00:59:16,840 --> 00:59:35,320
Speaker 4: This song is called bad Girl.

1254
00:59:36,239 --> 00:59:39,119
Speaker 3: So this song starts off and it sounds like they're live, right,

1255
00:59:39,199 --> 00:59:41,400
but then once the song goes on, I feel like

1256
00:59:41,440 --> 00:59:43,679
it's too polished to be live.

1257
00:59:44,079 --> 00:59:46,079
Speaker 6: Is it do you know, Well, I've heard a lot

1258
00:59:46,159 --> 00:59:49,320
of albums have these sort of live from the studio

1259
00:59:50,679 --> 00:59:50,920
you know.

1260
00:59:52,039 --> 00:59:52,519
Speaker 2: Yeah.

1261
00:59:52,559 --> 00:59:55,079
Speaker 3: So another thing that came about with this change in

1262
00:59:55,159 --> 00:59:57,800
tempo and putting the new sounds in and taking out

1263
00:59:58,320 --> 01:00:01,639
Dusty and Frank's stuff, they started to have to play

1264
01:00:02,280 --> 01:00:05,760
not just a click track, but like a backing music

1265
01:00:06,079 --> 01:00:09,039
right track, like they had background music that was playing. Sure,

1266
01:00:09,079 --> 01:00:10,800
of course they didn't let anybody know this. They just

1267
01:00:10,840 --> 01:00:13,239
pretended like it was all them they're live.

1268
01:00:13,559 --> 01:00:16,760
Speaker 4: Well, I heard Billy Gibbons called our buddy Lyndon Hudson,

1269
01:00:16,920 --> 01:00:19,079
and Lyndon Hudson is kind of a handyman, kind of

1270
01:00:19,199 --> 01:00:20,960
do it all guy, and he's like, man, we got

1271
01:00:20,960 --> 01:00:23,800
a problem. We're in Kentucky, we got no backing sound.

1272
01:00:23,920 --> 01:00:25,880
And Lyndon Hudson's like, well, have you tried this?

1273
01:00:26,000 --> 01:00:26,480
Speaker 2: You tried that?

1274
01:00:26,559 --> 01:00:28,760
Speaker 4: And Billy Gibbons's like, could you just fly out here

1275
01:00:28,800 --> 01:00:29,719
and fix it for us?

1276
01:00:30,039 --> 01:00:30,360
Speaker 2: Wow?

1277
01:00:30,400 --> 01:00:32,800
Speaker 4: So he flew him out there. Lindon shows up. He's like,

1278
01:00:33,159 --> 01:00:35,360
basically it's the equivalent of turning the machine off and

1279
01:00:35,400 --> 01:00:38,599
turning it on. Okay, guys, uh, I think you're good

1280
01:00:38,639 --> 01:00:41,639
to go now. They're like, well, we know we called

1281
01:00:41,639 --> 01:00:44,239
the right guy fix the problem.

1282
01:00:44,800 --> 01:00:45,840
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh.

1283
01:00:46,000 --> 01:00:48,719
Speaker 4: So this song reminds me of when we did Girls,

1284
01:00:48,760 --> 01:00:50,960
Girls Girls. The last song on the album was Jaelhouse

1285
01:00:51,039 --> 01:00:54,320
Rock Live. They needed it to kind of round out

1286
01:00:54,360 --> 01:00:56,400
the album, just kind of throw it in there as Piller.

1287
01:00:56,519 --> 01:00:58,320
Speaker 2: I like it, but it just feels like Piller.

1288
01:00:58,760 --> 01:01:00,719
Speaker 3: Yeah, I will say this, need to say this one

1289
01:01:00,760 --> 01:01:04,159
thing we didn't mention Terry Manning this whole show. He

1290
01:01:04,239 --> 01:01:07,119
is a guy who's critical to their success. He is

1291
01:01:07,199 --> 01:01:10,280
the guy who when they were in Memphis, right after

1292
01:01:10,320 --> 01:01:14,199
that big Blues show, they heard, Hey, they're in Memphis.

1293
01:01:14,599 --> 01:01:18,079
Led Zeppelin had just gotten finished recording led Zeppelin three.

1294
01:01:18,119 --> 01:01:20,840
When Billy Gibbons heard that, he was like, I want

1295
01:01:20,880 --> 01:01:24,679
that guy to produce our next album, right, And so

1296
01:01:24,800 --> 01:01:27,920
they had already started production with Robin Hood down in Tyler, Texas,

1297
01:01:28,079 --> 01:01:30,599
but they basically took all of those recordings up to

1298
01:01:30,679 --> 01:01:33,800
Terry Manning. And Terry Manning was the guy who put

1299
01:01:33,840 --> 01:01:37,519
together that new sound that they have, and he was

1300
01:01:37,800 --> 01:01:41,679
their key producer. He was the one that was recording

1301
01:01:41,719 --> 01:01:44,199
them at Ardent Studio and he was the one that

1302
01:01:44,239 --> 01:01:47,480
took the tracks home and even in his Home Studio

1303
01:01:47,639 --> 01:01:49,840
made this album what it is, and so I don't

1304
01:01:49,840 --> 01:01:52,320
want to leave it without giving him some credit. He

1305
01:01:52,440 --> 01:01:54,719
is a brilliant guy and it's funny to listen to

1306
01:01:54,760 --> 01:01:56,440
him talk because he said when they showed up with

1307
01:01:56,480 --> 01:01:58,920
those beards and asked me what I thought, I thought

1308
01:01:59,039 --> 01:02:00,000
they look horrible.

1309
01:02:00,199 --> 01:02:03,920
Speaker 2: They're going to ruin your career. Boy? Was I wrong? Wow?

1310
01:02:04,840 --> 01:02:07,719
Speaker 4: All right, Well, that's gonna do it for Eliminator turning

1311
01:02:07,800 --> 01:02:10,679
forty years old this year, and next week we're gonna

1312
01:02:10,679 --> 01:02:13,440
match it up with Rebel Yell by Billy Idol.

1313
01:02:18,920 --> 01:02:21,760
Speaker 3: Another huge one from nineteen eighty three. Can't wait to

1314
01:02:21,800 --> 01:02:24,000
jump into it. That one, just I mean that one

1315
01:02:24,039 --> 01:02:26,360
turned forty just a month ago, Yeah, just a few

1316
01:02:26,360 --> 01:02:26,800
weeks ago.

1317
01:02:26,880 --> 01:02:28,039
Speaker 2: Yeah, excited to do it.

1318
01:02:28,039 --> 01:02:31,400
Speaker 4: Should be a great matchup early MTV, lots of videos.

1319
01:02:31,480 --> 01:02:33,800
Speaker 2: Should be fun. Yeah. Thank you guys so much for

1320
01:02:33,880 --> 01:02:34,400
joining us.

1321
01:02:34,440 --> 01:02:37,559
Speaker 3: Please, if you've got time, hit the review button, give

1322
01:02:37,639 --> 01:02:40,519
us some stars, give us a review, tell us what

1323
01:02:40,559 --> 01:02:42,920
you think of Eliminator and how it matches up with

1324
01:02:42,960 --> 01:02:45,840
Rebel Yell, and we will see you next week.

1325
01:02:46,519 --> 01:02:48,559
Speaker 2: Bye, guys,