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Speaker 2: Who wants their own personal Jesus, Well, it's just about here.
Speaker 3: I'm talking about an ai Jesus.
Speaker 2: You could tell all your thoughts, all your concerns, make
Speaker 2: all your prayers too. I'm not joking, I'm being serious.
Speaker 2: Researchers and religious leaders yesterday released findings from a two
Speaker 2: month experiment through art in a Catholic chapel in Switzerland,
Speaker 2: where an avatar of Jesus on a computer screen I'm
Speaker 2: thinking like Max Headroom, tucked into a confessional, took questions
Speaker 2: by visitors on faith, morality, and modern day problems, and
Speaker 2: then responded based on scripture. The idea, said the chapel's
Speaker 2: theological assistant, was to recognize the importance of artificial intelligence
Speaker 2: and human lives even when it comes to religion, and
Speaker 2: explore the limits of human trust in a machine.
Speaker 3: I don't know how to feel about this personally.
Speaker 2: I think there's something obviously wrong when you're having a
Speaker 2: non human try to interpret the human experience and then
Speaker 2: you try to relate it to faith, when a machine
Speaker 2: obviously has no faith, and as far as we know,
Speaker 2: doesn't have a soul, doesn't have any type of real personhood.
Speaker 3: I don't know how I feel about that.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's one thing to have AI to help
Speaker 2: you get to you know, your party faster via Google Maps.
Speaker 2: And it's another thing if you want to ask chat GPT,
Speaker 2: how to you know better bake a loaf of bread
Speaker 2: or something like that, or you know, what's a better
Speaker 2: stock trading strategy. But when you're asking questions about morality
Speaker 2: faith from something that couldn't possibly have any type of
Speaker 2: moral foundation, couldn't possibly have any sense of humanity, and
Speaker 2: is basically reciting from wrote scripture which has been input
Speaker 2: but can't be internalized. I don't know the value in that.
Speaker 2: I mean that just sounds like a fortune cookie.
Speaker 4: Basically, there can be value on this, there can be
Speaker 4: any value any spiritual connection, any religious connection to something
Speaker 4: that as AI that that's the opposite of what faith
Speaker 4: and religion and all of that entails. It's something I'm
Speaker 4: sorry I was just say. If you're looking, if you're
Speaker 4: using AI to look up a certain scripture in the Bible,
Speaker 4: that's fine.
Speaker 5: But to.
Speaker 4: Pastor to you to help answer your questions that you're
Speaker 4: asking of it about faith from a computer, from a robot.
Speaker 4: This is in times man, I.
Speaker 2: How can I have faith little f in a machine
Speaker 2: that we created, asking the questions about our own creation?
Speaker 3: How does that work? You know?
Speaker 2: How is it that we've created something that's going to
Speaker 2: then supplant actual people who are reading the Word of
Speaker 2: God and interpreting it and then helping pastor and shepherd
Speaker 2: and guide people. And I think this is a very
Speaker 2: appropriate discussion to have as we move into this particular
Speaker 2: Christmas season, or even if you happen to be Jewish
Speaker 2: and moving into Hanukkah season, we have questions about faith
Speaker 2: and where we belong in this universe. I think maybe
Speaker 2: bastardization is too strong a word, but this isn't in
Speaker 2: any way attractive.
Speaker 3: To me at all.
Speaker 4: That's not too strong, that's not too strong. This seeks
Speaker 4: to undo a millennia of teachings. You know, this is
Speaker 4: when mankind jumps to shark.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and we've seen variations of this. I know they
Speaker 2: have online therapists with your bots. I know you can
Speaker 2: get on most websites and they have chatbots to kind
Speaker 2: of maneuver you through whatever you need to do with
Speaker 2: that particular company. And I see this as that on steroids,
Speaker 2: where I can ask religious questions or questions about the
Speaker 2: story of Job, the story of Ruth, or how should
Speaker 2: I look at the story of Damian and Pitheis or
Speaker 2: David and Jonathan and friendship.
Speaker 3: No, it's basically.
Speaker 2: Internalizing all the script, sure, and then through algorithms responding
Speaker 2: to any number of questions which have been pre programmed,
Speaker 2: and it can learn in machine learning terms. I just
Speaker 2: don't know if it has any value given what actual
Speaker 2: human interaction is required when it's required now.
Speaker 4: And see this is where I side with Mark when
Speaker 4: I take a standards the robotic overlords, because I look
Speaker 4: at this as generations down the line, say, learning about
Speaker 4: say history or religion or anything like that from an
Speaker 4: AI program that is controlled or created by people. How
Speaker 4: does that, then, you know, actualize or give people a
Speaker 4: real understanding of any of this if it's coming from
Speaker 4: a computer that's been programmed.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and the computer cannot experience the world in which
Speaker 2: we live in other words, to the teachings which were
Speaker 2: applicable back in nineteen forty five for that world, it's
Speaker 2: not the same world that we live in right now.
Speaker 2: And you can't tell me that the machine, just because
Speaker 2: it has been that information input that it can understand
Speaker 2: our world in the way that we understand and interface.
Speaker 3: With the world.
Speaker 5: A computer can spit information back at you, but it
Speaker 5: has no wisdom.
Speaker 3: That's a better way to put it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it can learn, but it can't be wise. And
Speaker 2: when you're talking about issues of faith, it has to
Speaker 2: do with wisdom, not just content in a book. And
Speaker 2: I think it cheapens the whole idea of faith where
Speaker 2: we can just pre program certain answers because it can
Speaker 2: read all the books of the Bible, that can have
Speaker 2: all the sermonic interpretation of the greatest preachers and pastors
Speaker 2: over the years, and then just spit it back out
Speaker 2: with no real connection with the person who is asking
Speaker 2: the question of why did Job go through all that suffering?
Speaker 2: What was it about his experience that helped people in
Speaker 2: the years afterwards reading his story? Now, I'm quite sure
Speaker 2: that the AI can come up with an answer, and
Speaker 2: I don't want to get into exegesis and all that
Speaker 2: kind of stuff. It can come up with an answer,
Speaker 2: but it's not coming up with an answer which is
Speaker 2: suited for that person in that moment and in their journey,
Speaker 2: and also there should be a relationship. You know, it's
Speaker 2: not like you just go to confession if you happen
Speaker 2: to be a Catholic, or you.
Speaker 3: Go to church and that's it.
Speaker 2: No, you develop a relationship, a one to one relationship
Speaker 2: not only with your Lord and Savior, but also with
Speaker 2: your pastor with preacher, with anyone who's head of the clergy,
Speaker 2: your priest. You can't do that with an AI.
Speaker 3: You just can't.
Speaker 5: If you're looking for meaning in your life, it's not
Speaker 5: going to come from a computer, which at the best
Speaker 5: can behave like an index that you can thumb through.
Speaker 2: And we use that as a lead into this next
Speaker 2: story when we come back on the other side of
Speaker 2: the break, we want to talk about how an ex
Speaker 2: Google CEO warns that the quote unquote perfect AI girlfriends
Speaker 2: could spell trouble because you know, we spend more and
Speaker 2: more time on the computer on our phones looking to connect,
Speaker 2: and people are going to start finding actual AI boyfriends
Speaker 2: and girlfriends in the near future.
Speaker 3: Yes, twell, you're right, we're going to hell in a
Speaker 3: hand basket.
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Speaker 4: Kelly K.
Speaker 2: Six Live Everywhere on the iHeartRadio app. Last segment, we were
Speaker 2: broaching the idea of having an AI Jesus, and that
Speaker 2: presumes then you would have a spiritual relationship with an AI,
Speaker 2: that AI would give you advice or some sort of
Speaker 2: personal enhancement in your life where you would feel feel
Speaker 2: more fulfilled. But it doesn't have to be just spiritual fulfillment.
Speaker 2: Eric Schmidt, Google's former CEO, recently shared his concerns about
Speaker 2: young men creating AI romantic partners, and he said that
Speaker 2: he believes AI dating will actually increase loneliness.
Speaker 3: It's not something that's in the future. It's already here.
Speaker 2: Young men, especially are people who are using these AI
Speaker 2: relationship apps. And there's a companion app called Replica r
Speaker 2: ep Lka, and it says said most of the app
Speaker 2: users are thirty five and older men. But Eric Schmidt
Speaker 2: believes that young men are particularly vulnerable because well, he said, basically,
Speaker 2: they're not as educated as women. On average, we're not
Speaker 2: as smart as women. And that's a true story. That's
Speaker 2: a true story. A twenty twenty four Pew research study
Speaker 2: found US women outpaced men in college completion. Schmid also
Speaker 2: said that in extreme cases, younger men can turn to
Speaker 2: the online world for enjoyment and sustenance, but also because
Speaker 2: of the social media algorithms, they find like minded people
Speaker 2: who ultimately radicalize them.
Speaker 6: Close quote was that, Oh it was the Bruce Willis
Speaker 6: movie Surrogates, and how people were basically using physical avatars
Speaker 6: to interact with the world like the perfect version of themselves.
Speaker 3: They didn't actually meet anyone.
Speaker 2: You just had avatars, physical life robot avatars who would
Speaker 2: live in the world and interact with other avatars.
Speaker 3: And I remember thinking like, yeah, I could see that happening.
Speaker 2: We are slowly approaching that point where we don't actually
Speaker 2: interact and interface and connect with each other. We're just
Speaker 2: social media profiles. We're avatars and that's about it. Or
Speaker 2: people will swipe left and swipe right, but not looking
Speaker 2: for real connection. I don't know what that world is like,
Speaker 2: if only because I got married in twenty sixteen, and
Speaker 2: at least from a dating standpoint, I don't know what
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 3: Tender is like, I don't know what that world is like.
Speaker 2: I don't know what guy would who's twenty four years old,
Speaker 2: how he goes out to meet someone in an app sence.
Speaker 4: Well, it's real tricky. I mean it's very very tricky
Speaker 4: because even when you're on these dating apps, so many
Speaker 4: of the profiles appear to be AI created AI during
Speaker 4: the half these apps or half these people that you
Speaker 4: see in these apps, they don't even look real. A
Speaker 4: lot of the interactions you may have seem computer generated.
Speaker 4: And it's always risky, and I think it's risky for women,
Speaker 4: is risky for men, it's risky for everyone, even going
Speaker 4: out on these dates. I have seen recently in different
Speaker 4: reports where there are guys who are thinking that they're
Speaker 4: going to meet some young lady and they end up
Speaker 4: getting to a spot just getting jumped and robbed, and
Speaker 4: it's just a setup. And I'm just like, see, this
Speaker 4: is how it happens. Because they thought they met some
Speaker 4: hot lady who was saying all the right things on
Speaker 4: social media. He's busy giving up all the information. He
Speaker 4: got robbed when he got.
Speaker 3: To the date. And I can see how it's attractive.
Speaker 2: Or you can have these online relationships with six or
Speaker 2: seven different people, and I say people in air quotes,
Speaker 2: because you really never know who you're interacting with, and
Speaker 2: it could be a way to pass time. It can
Speaker 2: be in some way fulfilled, but I don't know if
Speaker 2: it's actually actually fulfilling the need of connection or relationship.
Speaker 2: And going back to the story, if you're a younger
Speaker 2: person or in your formative years as an adolescent, it
Speaker 2: could probably be a barrier for you having normal what
Speaker 2: I would call normal relationships with actual people. There's something
Speaker 2: I have noticed as someone who's not a part of
Speaker 2: this gen Z generation. I find a lot of the
Speaker 2: gen Z generation don't know how to like look me
Speaker 2: in the eye when you're talking to them. Don't know
Speaker 2: general etiquette or how you greet someone, or the how
Speaker 2: to just talk to someone. And I'm not talking about dating.
Speaker 2: I'm just talking about just you know, just going through life.
Speaker 3: And I don't know.
Speaker 2: Twelve you could probably tell me better. Your son is
Speaker 2: of age eighteen now and he's dating. I don't know
Speaker 2: how they actually meet someone. My son's they would just
Speaker 2: change exchange Instagrams. They wouldn't even exchange phone numbers to
Speaker 2: just say, let me get your ID so they could
Speaker 2: message and you know, see picks of one another. But
Speaker 2: you know, they'll sit in a room for hours and
Speaker 2: just be on their phones. I'll get it, and it's
Speaker 2: a lot like that. The whole dating idea seems to
Speaker 2: be so secondary. It's like my son he started working,
Speaker 2: and now that he's working, he's excited about the idea
Speaker 2: of being at work because he's around people. He's like, man,
Speaker 2: I ha gotten, this is such a rut of being
Speaker 2: at home and being on the phone and being online
Speaker 2: talking to people. He said, I forgot how fun it
Speaker 2: is and how good it is to be out and
Speaker 2: interacting with people. But it's funny because like even on
Speaker 2: our way to Thanksgiving dinner, that's nice. Like my daughter
Speaker 2: from the back seat is like, remember, put your phone
Speaker 2: in your pocket. We are not there to be on
Speaker 2: our phones. We are there to interact with people. And this,
Speaker 2: you know, one of those out of the mouth from
Speaker 2: Babes thing, because it's like, yeah, I keep forgetting, like
Speaker 2: he will have his phone with him at all time,
Speaker 2: and you see him and his friends together, they're still
Speaker 2: all on their phones. Yeah, him and his homeboys in
Speaker 2: each other's presence, in their presence. Yes, I'm like, it's
Speaker 2: such a weird thing. I think about generations to come.
Speaker 2: If Ai and that there was a tragic story about
Speaker 2: a young man a couple of weeks ago that committed
Speaker 2: suicide when an AI relationship went left. And I think
Speaker 2: about what this Google executives is alluding to is how
Speaker 2: these AI relationships they stand the chance to really really
Speaker 2: ruin a lot of young men's lives, young women too,
Speaker 2: who get caught up into these relationships that aren't really
Speaker 2: when they can't fulfill them in real life, it's when
Speaker 2: they have these very tragic results. Well, he was explicit.
Speaker 2: He said it actually may increase loneliness. And then also
Speaker 2: there was another word that he used as far as
Speaker 2: being radicalized, where they will develop these views, these disproportionate
Speaker 2: views of what reality is is out of sync and
Speaker 2: out of whack with what reality is and their expectations
Speaker 2: of what should come from life. Well, they have this,
Speaker 2: I'll say a family member of mine, I don't want
Speaker 2: to be specific, but he was struggling with some internal
Speaker 2: self worth issues. But he was judging other people on
Speaker 2: what they were putting up on Instagrams, like well, this
Speaker 2: person has this, and that person has that, and I
Speaker 2: don't have any of that. And I had to explain
Speaker 2: to him, it's like that's not the real world. You know,
Speaker 2: that person probably is renting that car, that person is
Speaker 2: only showing you that they're going to these restaurants because
Speaker 2: they're trying to impress you.
Speaker 3: It's probably not their real lifestyle.
Speaker 2: The kids are growing up today with such a really
Speaker 2: skewed idea of what reality and self worth is because
Speaker 2: they're getting it externally as opposed to developing it internally.
Speaker 2: It's being driven by what they see and not by
Speaker 2: what they're actually experiencing. And you're not experiencing it when
Speaker 2: you're on your phone or looking at a computer screen.
Speaker 2: But we know that because we remember life prior to
Speaker 2: these screens.
Speaker 3: How hard is it to actually meet people?
Speaker 5: I'm like you, I have not been on any of
Speaker 5: these apps because I've been out of circulation, but I
Speaker 5: never had trouble meeting people when I wasn't out of circulation.
Speaker 2: Look, I may be a radio host today, but back
Speaker 2: in the day, I was always a kid who had
Speaker 2: quote unquote the gift of gab. I could talk my
Speaker 2: way into some things, and I could talk my way
Speaker 2: out of some things. But part of that was actually
Speaker 2: using socialization skills, knowing how to talk to someone, knowing
Speaker 2: how to convince someone. Everybody's going to ask that girl
Speaker 2: because I was a boy at the time asked that
Speaker 2: girl for her number, But why is she going to
Speaker 2: pick me? Well, I'm gonna come at her a little
Speaker 2: bit differently. You know, I may not comment on her
Speaker 2: physical shape. I may comment on her smile or ask
Speaker 2: her about what she likes. Tho, that was the whole game.
Speaker 2: It was about being able to impress a young lady
Speaker 2: and have her see me and talk to me. Now
Speaker 2: it's like, I don't know what they do. How does
Speaker 2: anyone stand out other than sending them a photo?
Speaker 5: I don't know much like Tony. I've always been an
Speaker 5: awkward nerd, and so I don't think there we go,
Speaker 5: he is away. I don't think you got to be perfect,
Speaker 5: you know, make people laugh. They're not perfect either. It's
Speaker 5: really not that difficult to me people.
Speaker 2: It may not be if you actually did it for
Speaker 2: a portion of your life.
Speaker 3: I remember going to the night club.
Speaker 2: It's like, okay, guys, whoever has the most numbers comes
Speaker 2: back with the most numbers tonight. You know, they don't
Speaker 2: have to buy drinks afterward or something. You know, it
Speaker 2: was always a game. It was always a competition. Ah,
Speaker 2: you're dealing in volume.
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, man.
Speaker 4: The numbers game was.
Speaker 3: It.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, oh yeah, you just didn't want to be
Speaker 4: a suck at the end the night with like two
Speaker 4: or three numbers.
Speaker 3: Yeah, those are impoverished.
Speaker 2: Yeah, of course, But that's how we actually met young
Speaker 2: women because you had to demonstrate that you could talk
Speaker 2: to them or that you could dance, because they felt
Speaker 2: if you could talk and you could dance and you
Speaker 2: can probably do some other things.
Speaker 3: Self confidence. I don't know. Look, I'm I'm old school
Speaker 3: like that. You don't say so.
Speaker 2: I don't know what an AI girlfriend is going to
Speaker 2: do for the next generation, but I can understand why
Speaker 2: they're concerns.
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Speaker 2: Last night, I was talking to Marsha Collier and we
Speaker 2: were talking about now that the holiday season is officially here,
Speaker 2: and we were going to be making all sorts of purchases,
Speaker 2: usually online, and having them delivered to our houses invariably
Speaker 2: the porch. Pirates are going to be out there expecting
Speaker 2: our packages as well, and sure enough they've already begun.
Speaker 2: Let me tell you about John Shinn, a Lawndale resident.
Speaker 2: He was tracking his shipment of an expensive laptop. Okay,
Speaker 2: it's a big deal, and I have been one to
Speaker 2: buy more than one computer online and have it delivered
Speaker 2: as opposed to going to a store, So I understand
Speaker 2: the concern and the worry. You want to be there
Speaker 2: when it arrives. You don't want it sitting on your
Speaker 2: porch near your door. You don't want that. You want
Speaker 2: to be right there for it. Well, he was tracking
Speaker 2: his shipment of an expensive laptop when he noticed it
Speaker 2: had been delivered, but he wasn't the only one following
Speaker 2: the package. When Chin went to check the front of
Speaker 2: his home near the intersection of Prairie and Manhattan Beach Boulevard,
Speaker 2: package was nowhere to be found. Schen said that he
Speaker 2: saw the UPS driver and followed him down the street
Speaker 2: to stop and ask him about the missing package. The
Speaker 2: driver said, well, some guy showed me his ID quote unquote.
Speaker 2: Chen later found footage of the exchange. The video showed
Speaker 2: a stranger stopping the UPS driver as he stepped out
Speaker 2: of the truck with Shin's package, the man showed the
Speaker 2: driver something off his phone, possibly a fake ID, then
Speaker 2: is handed the delivery.
Speaker 3: That's happening more and more.
Speaker 2: In fact, the post office was delivering a package for
Speaker 2: me today and I happened to be in my garage
Speaker 2: and I opened my garage, so the postal carrier knew
Speaker 2: that I actually lived there and was able and unwilling
Speaker 2: to hand the package to me. But by and large,
Speaker 2: I hope they don't do that as a matter of core.
Speaker 2: So someone just runs up, you just hand the package.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: On the other hand, I'm quite sure the mailman, that's
Speaker 2: what I'll call him, the mailman wants to deliver to
Speaker 2: the ups driver wants to deliver it to the front door.
Speaker 2: The guy can still steal it, but I guess he
Speaker 2: was trying to avoid showing him up on the ring device.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but this is another level of shade because we
Speaker 4: think about all of the different ways people are using
Speaker 4: these stolen IDs or any of any of the leaked information,
Speaker 4: and for this individual to be able to shadow track
Speaker 4: an Amazon package and intercept it before its arrival, this
Speaker 4: is a new level of low where these criminals or
Speaker 4: these cyber criminals are utilizing this stolen idea information.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's another form of hacking.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm quite sure if you can hack someone's
Speaker 2: email and track their packages, yeah, you know what they're
Speaker 2: buying when it's going to show up, presumably, And it's
Speaker 2: not that hard to create a fake ID with someone
Speaker 2: else's name, which could pass a flash test where you're
Speaker 2: just flashy it someone you're not trying to get in
Speaker 2: a bar and have an actual bartender or law enforcement
Speaker 2: officer examine it and you can pass the flash test
Speaker 2: and then you get the package. Look, anything of value
Speaker 2: is liable to be stolen. And people know now, especially criminals,
Speaker 2: know that there are expensive packages, valuable items which you're
Speaker 2: going to be showing up on people's doorsteps every single
Speaker 2: day through the end of the year, every single day.
Speaker 2: And you have to assume that your neighborhood, your street,
Speaker 2: your house is a target. And Marshia Carrier and I
Speaker 2: were talking about all the ways that you can try
Speaker 2: the best protect yourself by having your package is sent
Speaker 2: to like an Amazon box, or you yourself have to
Speaker 2: put in a code and get out your item. But
Speaker 2: that's not necessarily convenient for everyone. I know, it's not
Speaker 2: convenient for me, you know, especially when I'm working twenty
Speaker 2: two miles away. Now there's usually someone always at my house.
Speaker 2: But still, you know, there's still gaps in that there's
Speaker 2: no way to get around all of it and all
Speaker 2: of us. As much as I like to be able
Speaker 2: to depend on online shopping instead of physically going to
Speaker 2: a store and having to argue with people about whether
Speaker 2: it's okay to back my car into a parking space
Speaker 2: and fighting with other people in the.
Speaker 3: Line, I don't want to do all that. I'd rather
Speaker 3: just go click click click click click click click.
Speaker 2: Click click, and my package is on the way and
Speaker 2: it'll get there in ten days or whatever amount of time.
Speaker 2: But then I also have to worry about okay, you know,
Speaker 2: I can see my front porch, which means that I
Speaker 2: get the opportunity to watch someone steal my package from
Speaker 2: my front porch. There's nothing that's full proof, but this
Speaker 2: is where crime is headed, where they're getting more and
Speaker 2: more braz.
Speaker 3: Have you had it happen to you yet, Mark, No.
Speaker 5: And the day that I see somebody run off with
Speaker 5: like a book that I get off of eBay is
Speaker 5: the day that you have to bail me out for homicide. Yeah.
Speaker 3: See, I think that's my line in the sand.
Speaker 2: If you're going to come up on my property, yeah,
Speaker 2: and steal something off my property, and I have the
Speaker 2: opportunity to give chase, even though it's probably ill advised,
Speaker 2: to say the least, it's ill advised. I don't know
Speaker 2: if I will be able to resist that temptation, because
Speaker 2: unless they're getting in a car which is very close by,
Speaker 2: I got a chance. I got a chance because usually
Speaker 2: they're on foot. They're not going to drive right up
Speaker 2: to your house. Why because they don't want to expose
Speaker 2: their license plate. And if you've never had anything stolen
Speaker 2: from you, you don't know how violating that feels. And
Speaker 2: it's easy to mock it, and I want to mock it.
Speaker 2: But when you have things stolen, like I had a
Speaker 2: storage unit broken into, there's nothing more violating. It makes
Speaker 2: you want to curl up into a fetal position.
Speaker 3: Well, Tweld will have the last word about storage unit
Speaker 3: being damn.
Speaker 4: Look to this day, the individual who violated my storage unit,
Speaker 4: their parents, their children, any descent to anyone who shares
Speaker 4: their same bloodline is cursed. I have put a curse
Speaker 4: on them, a hex on them, a pox on them,
Speaker 4: and I wish them nothing but hell.
Speaker 2: I will pee on their graves with you very quickly.
Speaker 2: Twelve with your storage unit. There was never any video
Speaker 2: of the.
Speaker 4: Now the public storage unit over there on the Lincoln
Speaker 4: for some reason other the no cameras could catch anything
Speaker 4: inside job.
Speaker 3: That's what I said. We have a run a report
Speaker 3: coming up next.
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Speaker 5: and this week are really cool ones out that I
Speaker 5: wrote the dialogue for. It is called Nobody Wants to Die.
Speaker 5: I know it sounds like that awful last James Bond movie,
Speaker 5: but it's a future noir mystery, cyberpunk thriller game. It
Speaker 5: is beautifully rendered. It gets into some fairly sick and
Speaker 5: unsettling territory and I could not be prouder of this thing.
Speaker 5: Think Blade Runner in terms of visuals. But if you
Speaker 5: get to be a detective and you have some wondrous
Speaker 5: future tech for examining crime scenes and manipulating time at
Speaker 5: the crime scenes, and as you get further and further
Speaker 5: into this story, in this dystopian future where the bodies
Speaker 5: are piling up, you have a dawning realization of where
Speaker 5: you stand amid all the corruption and cruelty and murder.
Speaker 5: You know, perfect for kids. Nobody Wants to Die is
Speaker 5: made by Critical Hit Games and Newish Company, and it
Speaker 5: should be available. However, you play this stuff on Steam,
Speaker 5: where it's got a nine out of ten so far,
Speaker 5: fingers crossed on consoles, all of it everywhere. Here's here's
Speaker 5: some of it. This is an early trailer from about
Speaker 5: four months ago that I wrote and we start off
Speaker 5: and down an urban canyon of tall buildings and neons,
Speaker 5: swarming with flying cars which are still somehow vintage looking.
Speaker 8: They say, time heals all wounds.
Speaker 2: That's d.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what time does.
Speaker 8: Time reveal secrets, Secrets that enslave us, the secrets that
Speaker 8: poison us, secrets that rip us apart.
Speaker 3: Secrets.
Speaker 8: To drag the light.
Speaker 5: Are.
Speaker 3: They'll drag me ow.
Speaker 5: Now that's nobody wants to die. And the game looks
Speaker 5: absolutely stunning. And I've always loved norm movies. You know
Speaker 5: what those are. You've seen them, These hard boiled detective
Speaker 5: movies that started in the forties and fifties that had
Speaker 5: more cynical heroes, kind of anti heroes coming out of
Speaker 5: World War Two with all the disillusionent that entailed. These
Speaker 5: weren't guys who came home from the war and shouted
Speaker 5: USA USA. They were generally sarcastic, self destructive, hit the
Speaker 5: bottle pretty hard. The story's often involve a fem fetal
Speaker 5: who's bad news but steer still resistible, you know, like
Speaker 5: real life, very little, chasing tornadoes around in trucks as well.
Speaker 5: You should know, you know, the Maltese falcon with Humphrey Bogart.
Speaker 5: You've seen that, and we've talked about Monsieur Spade here
Speaker 5: not long ago, the Clive Owens series that's really good.
Speaker 5: Out of the Past with Robert Mitcham. Lots of great
Speaker 5: newer ones too, or neo noir which they're called Robert Altmans.
Speaker 5: The Long good Bye is one of my favorites. Scott
Speaker 5: Elliott Gould in it. It's really good and if you
Speaker 5: haven't seen that one, you should. And nobody wants to die.
Speaker 5: You play as a detective in New York in the
Speaker 5: year twenty three twenty nine who's called back on the
Speaker 5: job to investigate him off the book's case of mass
Speaker 5: murder of the city's elite. This detective has some issues though.
Speaker 5: For instance, he's not in his first body anymore and
Speaker 5: he's having trouble settling into his new body. In this future,
Speaker 5: you can transfer your mind, your consciousness to a new
Speaker 5: body when you wear out the old one. If you
Speaker 5: have the money. People who don't have the money, they
Speaker 5: have nots. They do what they gotta do, and it
Speaker 5: isn't always pretty. And again I'm not talking about porn.
Speaker 5: The choices you make throughout this game affect the outcome.
Speaker 5: It's not a shooter, although there is some shooting, very procedural,
Speaker 5: very visual, vibe oriented. Not the same old, same old.
Speaker 5: Just to be clear, the game's absolutely not for kids.
Speaker 5: Along with all the drinking and some fairly grizzly stuff,
Speaker 5: there is a very generous amount of swearing, which was
Speaker 5: great fun writing. I'll tell you, by the way, there
Speaker 5: were many times when we were racking our brains trying
Speaker 5: to get the right phrasing for a line, and I'd ask,
Speaker 5: how about just an m effort here? Oh yeah, that
Speaker 5: works perfect, everybody wins. If we have time, i'll play
Speaker 5: a little bit more from the official launch trailer that's
Speaker 5: from this week. I've admitted here before though, that self
Speaker 5: promotion just makes my skin crawl, which can be a
Speaker 5: bit of a speed bump if you're working in the
Speaker 5: radio business. And I want you to know also as
Speaker 5: a writer, I don't get one dime exter, no matter
Speaker 5: how many or how few people buy this game. I
Speaker 5: have one payday when I finish my work. I'm only
Speaker 5: telling you about the game right now because I think
Speaker 5: it's turned out to be something really special and I
Speaker 5: think you're gonna love it. You can see gameplay of
Speaker 5: Nobody Wants to Die on YouTube, along with reviews and
Speaker 5: all sorts of other stuff, And since radio is more
Speaker 5: of an ural medium, you kind of need to see
Speaker 5: this for yourself in a visual medium. I spent a
Speaker 5: few minutes looking up reviews last night. It's brand new
Speaker 5: this week, and my favorite was surely someone wants to
Speaker 5: Die hard to argue with that. Also, a user called
Speaker 5: fart Night called the game a straight banger.
Speaker 3: That's good, right, mo, Yeah, that's that's positive. You appreciate a.
Speaker 5: Straight banger or banger perhaps less often in your later years.
Speaker 2: Banger is always positive, unless it's preceded by gang in
Speaker 2: a civic sense, you know, in the criminal sense.
Speaker 5: Yeah, we're a little ahead on time. So let's just
Speaker 5: hear a little bit more of the trailer. Why I
Speaker 5: didn't have to beep out a swear word in my
Speaker 5: own place.
Speaker 2: Having a goal that's better than an activity, an alternative
Speaker 2: to focusing on the symptoms and the memories.
Speaker 3: I'm one hundred and.
Speaker 8: Twenty years old, and I don't have any strength left
Speaker 8: to keep recalling the past.
Speaker 3: You're a goddamn departmental legend legend.
Speaker 5: Uh, more like cautionary tale.
Speaker 3: I need access, do you think.
Speaker 5: I don't know why the chief put you on restrictive duty.
Speaker 3: No doubt about it.
Speaker 2: This case smells worse than a two week old corpse
Speaker 2: and a storm drain. Can I ask you something personal?
Speaker 4: Do you believe in life after death?
Speaker 2: Well, apparently in the past people used to ask stuff
Speaker 2: like that all.
Speaker 4: The time because the average lifespan was less than one
Speaker 4: hundred years.
Speaker 7: And now can we believe in anything beyond this?
Speaker 4: What if you could choose the bank or death?
Speaker 5: Now the bank is the memory bank, and if you're
Speaker 5: too four poor to afford a new body, that's where
Speaker 5: your consciousness goes, and it stays there until you get
Speaker 5: some money or something changes. It's an absolutely stunning game.
Speaker 5: Nobody wants to die. I hope you check it out.
Speaker 5: I don't make any extra money telling you about it.
Speaker 5: I'm just excited about it. It really turned out to
Speaker 5: be a special thing. Sounded like Scarlett Johansson was doing
Speaker 5: that narration there. I don't know who did the narration.
Speaker 5: I really wanted to do the voice of the detective
Speaker 5: because as we're writing these lines of dialogue, I'm actually
Speaker 5: performing them over Skype. With these guys at the company
Speaker 5: in Poland, and I so wanted to do this, but
Speaker 5: the guy who did it sounds terrific. How did you
Speaker 5: fall into this? Oh, nepotism and corruption? Of course, No,
Speaker 5: it's like a lot of games or comics or things
Speaker 5: like that. It's kind of who you know, combined with
Speaker 5: what you've already done that you can show people. So
Speaker 5: I had to display, if you'll pardon me for sounding
Speaker 5: imodest about this, somewhat encyclopedic knowledge of noir films because
Speaker 5: when I was back in grad school, I was going
Speaker 5: to do my dissertation on existentialism and film war. So
Speaker 5: I've seen a lot of the stuff and it's kind
Speaker 5: of the way I write and talk, and you know,
Speaker 5: it is definitely how you talk. So if you play
Speaker 5: this game, or if you just watch the walkthrough on YouTube,
Speaker 5: you'll kind of hear my voice, even though it's not
Speaker 5: me doing the actual narration.
Speaker 2: I'm very intrigued, and congratulations are in order, regardless of
Speaker 2: whether you get another dime or not.
Speaker 5: Thank you very much. It's a ton of fun. The
Speaker 5: game is nobody wants to die. So why did you
Speaker 5: keep it under wraps for so long? Well, I had
Speaker 5: to sign an MDA. Oh the answer the question, Yeah,
Speaker 5: they would have made me homeless if I violated the MDA.
Speaker 3: I'm sure you understand how those were. Oh yeah.
Speaker 5: But it also was kind of a stealth release. When
Speaker 5: I was looking up the reviews last night, I saw
Speaker 5: that people felt that it was just kind of dropped
Speaker 5: out of nowhere. There wasn't really any big build up
Speaker 5: to this, And I don't know if that's because the
Speaker 5: company is kind of a newer company or what, but
Speaker 5: I feel like it's making a big splash coming right
Speaker 5: out based on what I've seen so far. The reviews
Speaker 5: are terrific, and I hope it keeps going that way.
Speaker 2: Well, many congratulations to you, and hopefully you'll get to
Speaker 2: voice it next time.
Speaker 3: Yeah, for god's sake, what's a guy I have to do?
Speaker 3: Who do I have to sleep with? Well, don't ask
Speaker 3: that question, because someone will give you an answer.
Speaker 8: Oop.
Speaker 3: Oop, Look at the time. It's later with mo Kelly.
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