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Speaker 3: We got the quarterback scientist John Beck on the line. John,
how was your weekend?
Speaker 4: It was great, man. I got to sneak up the
provo and be at the game, so it was awesome.
Spin a while since, say, you know, I get to
go to games there, usually later in the season when
it's freezing cold, but because of some playoff movement in
bye weeks and all of that down here, I got
to land at five o'clock, hopping an uber with the family,
get to the stadium thirty minutes before kickoff, and it
was great.
Speaker 3: Did you celebrate in the locker room with the team
as well?
Speaker 4: No, I just we kind of stood. I mean, you
know how those games go, like you bump into people
you know and you're staying with stuff to people, and
it was I was actually standing with Bear's dad throughout
the whole fourth quarter and just trying to calm him down.
And yeah, you know, but it was great to see.
It was cool for my kids to see it. Often
view a U moment like that, and you know, it
was funny. As we were making our way kind of
like through the crowd to get out the stadium, Bear
like hopped the fence to come and say hi to
his family, and he was trying to make his way out,
and so I got to kind of just stuck to
Bear for a little bit and help him get through
the crowd to find the locker room. So it was cool.
I'm super happy for that kid man. He's playing so
well and he's helping this team do with the you know,
their goal has been the whole time. You know, I
think that this team had their site set on a
special season and Bear has been brought into the mix
and he's done what they've needed and he's made some
critical plays and critical moments and really helped the team.
And it's been cool to watch this team accomplishing their
goals so far this year.
Speaker 1: John, I've known you for a long time.
Speaker 3: I describe you as an optimistic pragmatist. And so when
you're seeing this team go seven to zero with a
true freshman quarterback and Bear Bachmeier, is it a surprise
to you.
Speaker 4: Here's what I would say, It's been. Nothing surprises me
with like certain people that I know. You know, Bear
has always been really good with his feet. So many
times throughout his high school career it was his feet
that extended drives, that extended plays that I mean, he
did that to us back to back years. I mean
they one time went forward on a two point conversion
to win the game and they just put it on
Bear's back and ran in. And so, you know, it
doesn't surprise me to see Bear playing the way that
he is. This is this is his style of play.
It's always been his style of play.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: The thing that I think is really cool is that
you have somebody that just got to the program pretty
much in June. I know that he started working on
the playbook with coach Mitchell as soon as everything was
kind of went down, but he had to finish up
some stuff to be able to get everything done to
get over to provotes. So the remarkable thing is how
good he's doing with leading an offense in terms of
getting them in and out of the right plays, with
not having these like you know, freshman turnover type you know,
happening over and over. Like he's just played sound football.
Like I knew what this team believed in because of
the coaches and the relationship I have with them and
hearing what they believed. So it's like, I think everybody
believed that this was going to be a year that
you know, you look at the front end of the schedule, Okay,
we should absolutely head into the tougher Big Twelve games
and this Utah game with a very high chance of
being undefeated. So that part did not surprise me. Being
undefeated going into this game. I think the part that
has been so great to see is that the Arizona
game they needed to find a way to win, and
they did in this game. I mean, it is amazing
that the defense stepped up on that many fourth downs,
Like usually if a team goes on that many fourth downs,
the chances of them getting won. And I know that
that's probably what Utah was talking about on their sidelines.
We have already gone for it this many times and
not gotten it. It has to give somewhere it has
to give and for BYU to step up like that,
Like that's been the part for me, Like wow, in
these close games, this is what you can't see unfolding.
But BYU has found a way in the tight games
to make the plays that they need to remain undefeated.
Speaker 3: What stood out to you about this particular game? A
robbery game that came down to the wire. But BYU
was at times comfortable in this game, other times not
so comfortable.
Speaker 1: Twenty four to twenty one victory.
Speaker 3: What were some of the key plays, key components of
the wind do you think for the coops?
Speaker 4: Well, I think no turnovers. If you look at what
happened with the University of Utah to have two turnovers
in the game, an offensive turnover, a special team's turnover,
and then to give up points and try to go
forward on fourced down. All of those plays you know,
aside from the big time plays that were made on
our offensive side of the ball, but you look at
those those are critical plays in a rivalry game. Like
I'm sure there's a statistic out there of turnovers in
YU Utah games and the amount of times that the
team that doesn't turn the ball over or turns the
ball over least has the highest probability of winning, you know,
And I think that that was a huge part to
have a freshman quarterback. And I know that the interception
like there's you know, holding thing, but it doesn't count.
To not turn the ball over with a young quarterback
and a rivalry game, I mean, it's awesome. And I
think that when I look at outside of the offense,
which I know we'll talk about in a little bit,
those are the key components of why do IU was
able to win this football game.
Speaker 1: As far as Bear is concerned.
Speaker 3: Thirteen completions, twenty two attempts under sixty six yards, sixty
percent almost sixty percent completion percent in one touchdown, zero
I iNTS.
Speaker 1: He had a long of thirty two.
Speaker 3: He was sacked a few times, got hit by these
Utah defense many times, eleven carry sixty four yards five
point eight yards per carry, one touchdown, and then he
had that long of twenty two on that quarterback keeper
that that draw play. It was a tremendous performance from
from the true freshman. What stood out to you specifically
about Bear.
Speaker 4: Well, I thought he did a really good job, you know,
like those sacks. They were they were they were smart sacks,
like he knew that nothing was there. He didn't try
to force anything. It's at times when you try to
do too much in a big game because you you know,
you want to make a play that sometimes that can
get away from you and you can be attempting to
throw a ball right as you're being pulled down and
now your accuracy is hinder or the ball, you know,
flutters up in the air and gets intercepted. And he
was he was really smart about that. That really was
only one that I bet when he goes back on
tape and watches it, he probably is like, you know what,
I probably could have cut that one loose. But I
thought he did a really good job of managing of
just like throwing guys open. He had a really really
good scramble he had to kind of step up in
the pocket off of that little play action that he
stepped up, moved to his right and threw on the run.
Did a great job of really throwing the guy open.
And I think Carson Ryan did a great job of
feeling it, throttling kind of reaching behind him and making
the play like that's a really savvy throw right there,
and you know you can't do that to every tight
end that you have. Some Titans don't have that capability.
But I just like Bear's decision making again. I you know,
if you watch how Bear has played before, Byu, Byu
has done such a good job of kind of utilizing
and emulating the style of play. Bear has so many
reps in you see some of these zone read options
where he's attacking. You know, he he pulls because the
in comes crashing and then he's optioning off the next
defender with either a throw or him running up field.
That was a staple part of his offense. The QB
draws staple part of his offense, QB power staple part
of his offense. You know, getting into the right play
against man coverage. I mean, knowing when to take shots
and when not to when the outlet having a great feel.
You know, you look at the play to Preston Rex,
and Preston Rex is the outlet on the other side
of the field, and Bear could feel six players over too.
And you know, if you pause it right before he
flips his hips, they literally have one defender to that
side of the field. If you split the field in half,
and we have a blocker out in front of Preston,
just that innate feel for space, and I think it's
just it's so much resembles kind of where his where
his experiences come. And so they've done such a good
job of creating a game plan where he's not being
asked to play differently from where his experience is. And
that's why, you know, early on, you know, just see
why you was a good fit with what a rad does.
And it's just great to see it play out that way.
And you know, the other other part two is that
guy is so nimble with his feet and I know that,
like you know, I mean, you don't really see bears.
They're not known for nibble for their feet, but this
bear is, you know, he does such a good job.
You watch how he picks his feet up and he
avoids tacklers and so so many times he's jumping over
their hands. And that big touchdown run that he had
at the end for two hundred and twenty pounds to
be running up field and to kind of slow down
in a small enough space to then kind of pick
his feed up on a little jump, and he just
look how many people go at his legs and feet
and he just like skips over their hands and then
he picks up more yards. I mean that is just
so unique for a guy that big lower body to
be that nimble as well as a runner.
Speaker 1: Yeah, right handed.
Speaker 3: Centaur that that plays like Tim Tebow, right, he's a
better throwing Tim Tebow.
Speaker 1: John Yeah.
Speaker 4: I mean, look, it's it's really cool again to see
you know, you have to really tip your hat to
a rod and just say you are utilizing this kid
the right way. And I think that's why it's working.
People are like, you know, man, it's amazing to see
a freshman step in and and like do what he's doing.
And it's awesome because of the fit DYU has really
good pieces around him. The run game is working. I mean,
how how many yards the dau risk for It had
to be too.
Speaker 1: Yep, just to just a hair over two hundred, I think.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And how Bear fits into that run game compliments.
You know, if I look at years pass like last
year with Jake Reslaf, you would see Jake utilized here
there in the run game, you would see him utilize
the option game with Jake like Jake was capable of
doing some of these things where what Bear ads is
that element of you know, taking guys on, running through tacklers.
Jake was also a passer, and he had to you know,
he weighed two hundred and ten pounds. He had to
be smarter about the contact, you know. There. I had
a number of people be like, what do you think
is going to happen if Bear keeps carrying the ball
this much? I mean, I don't know. I know that
we would be disappointed if something did happen. But to
this point, the kid's been carrying the ball a ton
and he still gets up and continues to play, And like,
like I said, that's that's I think what Byu saw
him being utilized as, especially late in games, and his
ability to take off with his legs light in games
has just been such a good fit for Bou.
Speaker 3: John Beck three d QB here on ESPN The Fan
discussing the win over the University of Utah twenty four
twenty one and what led to that? You mentioned obviously
the turnovers. The fact that b Yu forced a few
turnovers I thought was was pretty awesome. One was some
would say was unforced, but on the on the punt,
But per Kyle Whittingham in the post, game. He said
his punt returners felt that the ball was floating and
then all of a sudden it just dropped and he
was just trying to feel it. That that speaks to
maybe Sam Vanderhar's little drop kick that he puts a
little bit extra spin on it in order to just
kind of plummet to the gridiron.
Speaker 4: Well, you look, the one thing that nobody knows is
is there anything going on strategically where I have been
in situations where on teams, the special team coach will
get up and say, there may be a time this
game that we use a little bit more of our
pooch style kick in a situation where they would be
expecting us to drive it down the field because of
the way that they match our guys running down the
field that they don't have eyes on the ball. And
it sounds silly to chance it, but there are absolutely
situations where sometimes teams take a chance that maybe it
can hit the receiving team before they can recover it.
And I have seen teams practice a man on you,
and as you're gunning down the field or as you're
running to get to the punt returner, you are trying
to find eyes towards the ball of where it might drop,
trying to run your guy into a shorter kick. And
so look, I'm not sure if you hit it perfectly
how he wanted and he played a ball that was
going to drop short, or if it just happened that way.
But there are situations that teams, you know, try to
create a play where it can either make the guy
run in or it can hit another person on the
return team.
Speaker 3: John, I want to break down probably my There's been
two favorite throws from Bear Bachmeier for me this year.
Speaker 1: The one was to Carson Ryan right.
Speaker 3: At the at the like at the pole of the
crossball right and and the uprights, and it was incomplete,
but it was just a dime intended pass I want
to say, Game two or Game three, and it was
dropped right, but it was just.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, the stick.
Speaker 1: Oh it was. It was a ball.
Speaker 3: It was beautiful, It was poetry. The other one was
this Chase roberts Uh. It was a line drive on
a rope right over the top of the head, very
quick like over the top of the head of the
defensive back where only Chase could get it.
Speaker 1: And that that's an unguardable throw.
Speaker 3: Everyone says back shoulders are unguardable to a certain degree.
They're right, okay, but that ball was unguardable for any
defensive back in my opinion. Could you take us through
what maybe Bear was trying to do on that ball,
and how how from a quarterback stand about, and how
maybe difficult that is to get that trajectory on the
line and have your wide super catch it.
Speaker 4: Well, there obviously has to be some history together. There
has to be some chemistry because of feeling that that
is a winnable place, right and you trust the guy
to throw the ball there a lot of people think, hey,
press fade, let me get the ball up and let
me drop it in the bucket a little bit further
back in the end zone. And that's not a wrong
throw either. I'm going to actually utilize Aaron Rodgers. Okay,
So when Zach spent some time around Aaron in New York,
one of the things that Aaron believed was getting the
ball up and down faster. When your guy beats a guy,
press off the ball, get the ball to him a
little bit quicker and just throw it right above his
head and get the ball on because when he beats
him off the line. That's that space that he's already
won and his back is to you. And if you
put air on it, now that defender gets to run
for a little bit chasing, and then he gets to
gets his eyes back. So like again, I'm not saying
this is what happened. I'm just saying why you sometimes
see air taking off the ball and driven the safety
wasn't totally towards the hash, but he was moving that
way a little bit. So my guess is there's a
history between Bear and Chase of working on those balls
in practice and a lot of times in games, you
don't think about it, you react to it. And so
as Bear kind of flashed that little jet sweep, I
think when he took his eyes to Chase and he
thought Chase beat him so quick off the line, it
was a reaction based off of previous experiences of I'm
going to get this ball to him now, and I'm
going to throw it just a few feet above that
defender's head and I'm going to put it on a
rope so that it gets their wall. The separation has
already happened. And again it's that trust, right, I guarantee
somewhere in the last few weeks in practice, they probably
have a clip that almost looks the exact same and
that's why there's trust. And you know a lot of
times also when guys stay after these are the things
that you stay after practice working on. Have a ton
of reps in practice to hey, let's work on all
the different looks we can get on a fade ball. Hey,
let's practice that a little bit more. You get the
look you get in practice, you do it. I then
usually there's a conversation of hey, let's stick around after
and let's get a few of those. And my guess
is that they probably have some experiences out as well.
And so I think it's just a great play that
naturally happened between two guys where they trust each other.
And you can tell by Chase the reaction to the ball.
He was not surprised that it got on him that quick.
It looks well executed.
Speaker 3: We discuss, you know, different verbiage and terminology in football.
It has its own language, right, And so I want
to ask you, what do you guys, what do you
call that throw? I traditionally called it one thing, right,
but I don't know what you use in the quarterback room.
I called it like a chop top, like you chop
off the kind of the top of the hair because
it's coming right over the top of the helmet. Chop
top throw because it's coming on a line like a
flat top.
Speaker 1: But like, what do you guys call it? I don't
know what you guys?
Speaker 4: More placement? More placement you say, like, hey, just take
air off and get it on and quick top show
like he can get his hands up top show.
Speaker 1: And you get on firm like that, Yeah, to show.
Speaker 4: Happened now, Like a lot of the times you'll hear me, Like,
I mean, I guess you won't hear me. Sorry, I
talked as if I was talking to like my quarterbacks
I'm coaching. But you know, you can talk about air
on a ball, taking air off the ball, adding air
to the ball, the firmness of a throw. This is
now the art of the pass. Being able to layer
a ball that's firm, being able to layer a ball
where you peel a little bit of firmness off the
ball and so it gets there just a titch flower.
Like there's all these different speeds and shapes of throws,
and that's why, like as you go up in levels,
it's so much like golf, right with trajectory and speed
and shape. And that's why it's truly an art. Like
when you watch some of the best throwers, the Aaron Rodgers,
the Matt Stafford's like, when you see the throw that
those guys make, it's it's an art. The pace, the speed,
the location and guides will work on. I want this
back shoulder, I want this top shelf, I want this
down in a way right, it almost sounds like a
pitcher pitching out locations on the plate and throwing different
balls of Hey, I'm gonna run into his hands, I'm
gonna get this to dive away, you know, like all
these different things. I want this to cut back into
his heels like. It's very much like that in throwing also,
and that's why the chemistry you can have with a
wide out and the trust that you can have, you
literally are throwing a guy open to his strength with
the type of ball you throw.
Speaker 3: I'm gonna give you a few stature as it relates
to the robbery John, I want your your reaction to him.
B Yu obviously on a three game winning streak in
the rivalry that hasn't happened since the early nineties. So
that's that's pivotal right all time. Right, While Kyle Whittingham
has been the head coach for Utah, Utah is eleven
and six.
Speaker 1: But check this out.
Speaker 3: When by you and Utah are in the same conference,
Kyle Witingham is three and five in the rivalry game.
Speaker 1: What stands out to you about all those statistics.
Speaker 4: When they're in the same conference, they're three and five.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's three and five, so mountains from five to
twenty and ten, it was three and three the last two.
When BYU is a part of the Big twelve and
Utah is a part of the Big twelve, Utah is
zhe two. So three and five all time. When BYU
and UTA are in the same conference, well, that.
Speaker 4: Means three wins. They're just the three beginning of Broncos years.
It's the five overtime loss that we had in Provo,
It's the eight fifty five to whatever they had up
in Salt Lake. Oh wait no, and then there's got
to be what was the other one?
Speaker 1: It was five and five, eight and twenty and ten.
Those are the those are those three wins for him?
Speaker 4: Oh you know, five ten, So one of them is Kalani,
So so.
Speaker 1: Two Brono no, no, no, no, not no, no, you're right.
Speaker 3: Five, eight, and then twenty and ten, So twenty twenty four.
Those are the five games.
Speaker 1: Those are the.
Speaker 3: Games in which you know, you know that that that
they're in the same conference Mountwest in Big twelve.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I mean, you know what, that's an interesting stet
when they're in the same conference, you know. I wonder
how many of those. I know ro five game was
not for conference championship because TCU won the conference championship
and O five that that eight game, I think TCU
wouldn't that be the Andy Dalton I think they had
the conference championship. So those ones, those two aren't even
for the championship in the conference. It's just playing in
the same one. But I think that's interesting. I wonder
if there's something to do a little bit more of
like when they play common opponents and you get to
I don't know, a common opponent thing of being able
to like gauge more. I mean, here's one thing that
like everybody that prepares in football, when you have common opponents,
it helps in preparation when you are watching so much
pape and its opponents that you have not played. There's
a little bit of and I don't know totally how
to gauge this because it's hard to anticipate or I
don't totally understand of what that opponent is like. But
I know me personally as I prepared for games. When
you have a common opponent, it just gives you that
little bit more understanding. And I wonder if there's something
too common opponents. But I mean, look, the one thing
I will say that we haven't talked about yet was
what I think was an advantage to BYU, and that
was playing at home this year. You know that that
environment there was just so awesome. You know, the fans
that BYU have, they just do such a good job
in the stadium. I think it's unreal what has taken
place over the last however many years of having the
entire stadium in the same color. The atmosphere feels just
like a pro football game. And then even another level,
you look at how many penalties that Utah had. You
look at some of the things that were going on,
maybe like communication with their sideline. It could even be
the pressure of them feeling like we can't settle for
field goals because we have to do something to try
to get the momentum to our side, because it constantly
feels like BYU has momentum, BYU's in it because of
the fans, And I think that that was something as well,
like that atmosphere has to be a confidence builder when
you're the home team defensively, offensively, everything you know. You
could see the players understood it after big plays. The
connection between the players and the fans in that stadium
was so good to see on.
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Speaker 3: John Beck ladies and gentlemen. John always appreciate our time together.
Thanks so much for joining us once again.
Speaker 4: Yeah, you guys are welcome. We'll see it all right.
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