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Speaker 1: This is pet Life Radio. Let's talk pets.

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Speaker 2: And we are live here on pet Life Radio Castavets

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with doctor Jeff and here just waiting for my father.

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Speaker 1: There we go and number one here, good morning, Good morning.

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How you doing guys? All right? So anyway here for

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you here for your pets. You know the drill you

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need me, just ask away. We'd love to hear what

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you want to talk about. I of course have some

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topics that I wanted to cover, but I only do

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those if we don't get enough good calls from you.

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So let me know. For those of you on pet

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Life you can either join us right here on pet

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Life Radio, ask away, or call us who three eight

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again eight seven seven three eight five eight eight eight two,

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and we will help you just with ever what you

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need help with. So I want to wait we get

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more of you online because I want to talk about this.

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I want opinions, some stuff that you can think about.

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You know. Also, I realized that that I may not

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have wished all of you mom the happy Mother's Day

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last week, so I'm going to hope you had it's

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a happy belated I hope you had a good Mother's

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day with the fam. You know, whether it's your barbecues

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or whatever you did. I hope you had a lot

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of fun. So let's see we discerned me. So what

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is ms net? Babe? Talk to me? No first names here,

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come on, m Bell seventy six bs' I don't know

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what BS. I know what BS. Dan. You have to

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explain what your BS stands for. So teach you. Lewis Hello, Hello,

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and I'm more of you coming on. As you get

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more of you, I'm going to ask a question. Maybe

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we'll start the second half with it because I want to.

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I want you guys to let me know. So good

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morning everybody. Good morning. I hope you're having a great day.

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And wherever you are, our day started. We've been having

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really if you're in La, you know what I'm talking about.

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We're having some really weird weather in LA because we've

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had some rain in May. Using by May, it's using gorgeous.

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Then we had last weekend was gorgeous, super hot, super nice.

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Everything was great, and I think, oh, right now we're

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now we're getting California weather. It's been overcast, hasn't burned off.

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So I mean I walk my dogs, well a few

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times during the day, but my last time is like

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usually ten PM, maybe ten thirty. And I have five

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of them, and if I have to still put like

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a sweatshron or a hoodie or something is getting too cold.

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I like it when I can walk out there kind

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of like Florida where our producer Mark lives. They can

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be wearing shorts at ten thirty at night and still

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still good. So Shecky Sheriff. So this is my my

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sister wonder well one of them. The other sister has Jill.

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The other Beth hasn't thrown up yet, so that's kind

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of weird, all right. Anyway, So one of the things

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I want to say, maybe we won't talk about it now.

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I want you to think about it. I think about

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the pros and cons. But in the meantime I want

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to add some tips as speaking of weather, as we're

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getting a little warmer, hopefully there are you know, we've

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talked about vaccines many times, what I call four vaccines,

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other vaccines that are really in necessity, and it varies

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from where you live. Well, what I've found is that

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I just had a client come in the other day

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and she wanted the lime vaccine called Berrillia. I'm thinking

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a lot. We don't do limes. My first question was

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are you traveling during the summer, because yeah, we go

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back East for the summer. I go, ah, so this

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is an informed pet parent. And yes, if you go

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especially the Northeast, we're going to New York, Connecticut, you know, Boston,

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all these places where we see the lime disease, then yes,

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you want to get the shots in now, because if

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it's the first time they've gotten them in this for

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this particular dog, it is because it's a young dog

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that we're gonna have to give two about a month apart,

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and then we start going it once a year, depending

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on lifestyle, depending on how much traveling. So I don't

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recommend and that vaccine for normal for people here. But

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if your dogs are going to be exposed because of location,

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and certainly back east, especially the Northeast during this time

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of year, that is a problem. Yes, so talk to

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your veterinarians pleased. If you have travel plans, there are

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some diseases where you're going to see, you know, major ticks,

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partworm disease. That's a biggie. We don't really have it

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terribly year. But there we're seeing more and more mosquitos.

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know Florida, it's coming all the time. So that's what

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we need to do. We need to get our pets protected.

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prevention now. It's for heartworm. You want to start the

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prevention now for lime disease. So if you're going to

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start hiking a lot because of the warmer weather, then yes,

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you want to think about the rattlesnake vaccine. So this

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is like pre planning. Speak to your veterinarian now and

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if you need these shots, or if you're having travel

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plans during this summer, or your lifestyle is going to

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change because of the warmer weather, sit down and have

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a quick discussion and find out what vaccines that were

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not core. You don't need them regularly, but you need them. Okay,

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my four month old puppy, I love these, Thank you

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so much. My fore month of puppy tried to catch

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a bee. He got stung in the lip. You think

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out the stringer, it's hard to get swall and like, okay,

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so this happens a lot, so don't feel badly and

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guess what it's gonna happen again. So if given the opportunity,

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they don't learn that be that's a joy for them.

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So first of all, as you already did, most importantly

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try to get that stinger if you can find it.

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The problem is that stinger. It's like a little comma.

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area of skin, take like a credit card and brush

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it against the lip. Brush it against a lift up.

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and sometimes it'll catch on to that little stinger and

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pull it out. If you can't find it, or if

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it's maybe not even there anymore, then importantly hold compress

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is good. Benadrill. Ben Adril will help benadrill at one

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milligram per pound bena drill per pound body weight, so

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fifteen pound dog fifteen milligrams. Your standard benadryl tablet over

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the counter diphenhydromene is twenty five milligrams, so you might

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want to give half twelve point five milligrams. You can

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also get children's benadrill, which is twelve point five milligrams

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per teaspoon, which per mL million. There are five mls

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in one t spoon, so you're looking at twelve point

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five dollars by five, so it's basically one point twenty five,

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so two point five. So that's how you can figure

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it out. If you have a dog that's two and

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a half pounds or five pounds, you want to give

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like three mL, so well three mL actress you have

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two mL would be that's like two point five times two.

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remember that twelve and a half per five and in

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the children's liquid and a full adult is twenty five milligrams. Now,

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if you have access to prednis oone or penis alone,

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that would be good as well as an anti inflammatory.

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pound dog and you happen to have five milligram preads

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sitting around, you can give a pred inice own also,

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but it's going to go down, so it's cold compress

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like ice on the area. A benegerl will help. If

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you have pread, you can give a pread to not

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is off your shelf that you could do if you

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want to decrease some pain in information is good old

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fashioned aspirint, not tiling all, not advil, not any of those,

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not Knapperson. It's got to be good old aspirin. And

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it's usually one adult aspirin that's three in twenty five milligrams, okay,

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for every sixty pounds to bodyweight, which means a baby

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aspirin or an aspirin people take for their heart eighty

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one milligrams, one eighty one milligram for every fifteen to

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twenty pounds of bodyweight. So keep that in mind as well.

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aspirins and that's it. Otherwise, see your all right, how

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do I have my golden doodle lose weight? Well? One thing,

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you know, we have to understand one thing about dogs, puppies,

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especially that what the needs of a puppy is almost

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one and a half to two times greater than an

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adult dog of that same weight, because you're still growing.

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all of a sudden, they're starting to the end of

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their growing phase. And if you don't make an adjustment

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and drop down their food requirement and they're keating the

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same thing amount as a growth dog, then mayking the

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game weight. And trust me, as all of us know,

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it's a lot harder to take it off than it

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is to put on. In fact, putting it on is

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easy and kind of fun. Sometimes taking it off is

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not so easy and certainly not fun. So prevention is

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the key. So if you want to do your best

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to prevent it by starting as they're getting past that

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adult age like five, six, seven months, bending on the

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dog eight months, start cutting back puppy diet and going

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on to either an adults or cutting the volume. Once

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you have that puppy, you're no longer a puppy that

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is already overweight. No magic, it's no magic. Reduce the calories,

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increase the exercise, and what we find is that the

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bigger a dog gets, the less they want to do.

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the calorie reduction is the most important thing. And then

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as they are starting to feel better or you have

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to push them at the beginning to exercise. Get them

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out there, chase the ball, go to the park, whatever

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it is. I recommend typically, you know, a good gauge

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of weight loss is basically one percent of body weight

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per week, about four percent to maybe five percent per month.

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five to thirty percent of their caloric load. And one

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of the biggest mistakes that we all make, trust me,

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we all make, well, not everybody, but I've made too.

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We mostly feed our dogs through eyeballing. We fill that scooper,

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we fill the whatever it is, and we throw it

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in their bawl. We have no idea exactly how much

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we're feeding them. So what I recommend is the following

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is you want to take your eyeball scoop, but instead

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of putting a bowl first, put it on a kitchen scale.

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to ten ounces. I'm just coming up with a number. Okay,

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then if you want to get down thirty percent, so

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you're taking three ounces away, So that means you have

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to go from ten ounces down to seven ounces, and

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you want to measure it each time. But you want

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to get from here to here right from this ten

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down to seven in about seven to ten days time.

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Don't do it all in one meal. They'll recognize it.

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But if you do a little bit each each meal,

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it'll it'll help. They'll ease into it and they'll do fine,

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easiest over the counter ear cleaner for dogs, that's a

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good one. So there are so many on the market.

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I will say, of course, my ear cleaner called here

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you no available on Amazon or at my office is

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good or shopify it's really good. But trust me, there

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are a lot of good ear cleaners. Well. I found

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the way they work best is if you use them.

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Don't use it sitting on yourself. Oh I have an

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ear cleaner. When the last time you clean your ears?

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not gonna work. So you want to get into a routine,

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and especially have a dog that gets ear diseases. You

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want to use. You want something gets mild. You want

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something if they're not gonna hate. And by the way,

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let the ear cleaner do its job. In other words,

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you pour it in literally, let it pour it back

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out of the ear. And if with the intact ear

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drum it's like a vessel a cup. It's gonna fill

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up and start pulling over. At that point, you want

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a massage really, really vigorously from the bottom up. You'll

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notice a lot of the debris will start floating to

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the top. Then what I usual to do is let

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give them a real quick blow in the ear and

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then they'll shake their head like crazy and a lot

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of that crap will just start coming out of the ear.

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use the swab, a cotton swab, which I'm okay with,

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but you got to learn how to use them. And

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depending on the size of the dog, I recommend holding

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it about maybe an inch to an inch and a

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half away from the very tip and your two fingers

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here will stop the saw from going any deeper than that.

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And for most dogs that's gonna be fine. If you

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have a little teeny puppy, you got to go less

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speak your veterinarian, but it is something that you want

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to get used to do it. But it's a good

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idea to start them on a real regular program to

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get theorious clean. My ten year old Cata hula has

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an ear infection being treated. Yes, So once you're even

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with an ear treat depending know what treatment they use.

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want to clean the ear while the medication is working.

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doctor or the nurse, whoever it is, applies it, and

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after that to sit back and keep you outside clean,

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but don't go in the ear. Here's another thing, and

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this drives me nuts. I know we've talked about this before,

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but I'm gonna do it again. Most of the ear

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cleaners that your veterinarian is going to give you, all right,

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have a long nozzle or they tell you to put

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the count the drops or both with the nozzle in.

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count the drops. You don't know how much it would

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be squeezing. You don't know. If you're holding it up

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on top to count drops, then it makes ten drops,

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five drops, whatever it is. Then it's not gonna get

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down to whor it has to get down. So my

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recommendation is is that you ask your veteran errant have

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them show you much better way to do it. For

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a tuberculin syringe, tubercular syringe is a one cc skinny

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skinny skinny syringe, and instead of giving you counting drops,

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it'll be put point three point four point five point

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six point up to a point eight and the giant

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dog maybe one mL okay, the full syringe of the

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ear medication. And then what you can do is so

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my instructions are put point four mL point six mL

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into the ear once a day. Even ear drops that

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say used to be done in twelve hours unnecessary. Once

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a day is gonna work just fine. And you don't

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want to put too much crap in that ear anyway,

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You put the syringe in just a little, You shop

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it all the way to bottom, just in enough you

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can't see the tip anymore, and gently gently pushed the

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minutes in. Why gently because if you have a good,

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nice type fit and she said that ear canal is

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finite because it's got an intact ear drum. If you

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push that stuff really hard and it's created like a

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seal around your syringe, then you can actually by pushing

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that stuff into heart, blow out the ear drum, so

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very very carefully, just gently with your index finger. Yea,

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let's put this stuff in then massage it in. The

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dog will shake a little bit. If you see any

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excess again, take your cautt and swab and clean out

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the excess. So that is the recommendation. Then brought her back.

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They said, urine a tract. But she is not urinating frequently.

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If anything you wants they want to give her, let

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me go, maybe go Michelle. I want to go back

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ear infection. Then brought her back. They said, urine a tract.

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I don't get the two, but she is not urinating frequently,

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if anything once or twice a day. They want me

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to give her a claud month. I'm a little lost there.

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I had to get from ears to a urinary attack

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infection and what made them think youurinar attack confection because

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there is no link. Let me repeat that, no link

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between an ear infection and an urinary attack infection. So

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I'm concerned. Was it a side note? Did you mention

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something about the dog drinking too much water urinating it

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frequently something that led them to believe And even if

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they did, I wouldn't give klavimox for a urine attack

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infection off the bat without testing the urine. Did they

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do it? Take a urine sample? Do they do what's

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called cistosynthesis, take a sample and send it to the lab.

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It's a good thought that I'm not saying it's not

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an urn attack confection. But I wouldn't think you're an attack

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infection because of an ear infection. And I wouldn't automatically

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give medication for a urine attack infection if you didn't

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test the urine. So that's unusual to me. Now, if

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they felt an ear infection, would cladmox be a good

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medication on top of whatever you put it in the air. Yes,

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And sometimes if we have a big problem, I will

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use an anti inflammatory. Sometimes, if it's really bad, the

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ear is red in flame, I'll even use pregna zone

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orally along with whatever topical medication they put in. So

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find out about that and get back to you. There

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must have been some reason they thought urinar attact. Nice staff,

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how you doing? That's ay? There you are, b boy

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Jill Beach this morning? Ah so because she was lethargic,

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so he kept looking. I mean, typically the urinary attack infection,

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the clues that you would see, what drinking a lot

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of water more than normally and frequent attempts to urinate,

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squatting all the time. Or of course if you're seeing

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some blood or something like that, yes, or the urine

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looks different than yes, one hundred percent, but you gotta

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do a urine urine sample. And I would even do

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an ultrasound of the bladder to see it's a bladder

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wall thickened their crystals in there are there bladderstones. Something's

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going on if she's not feeling well. But I wouldn't

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necessarily go from lethargy to a urinary attack infection without

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evidence of a urinary attract infection or urinate problem. So

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that's a weird one for me, all right, So let

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me take a quick break here because I'm running over.

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It's already nine to twenty. Time flies when you have

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had a good time. So while Mark is playing the commercials,

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I will stay on and I'll mute myself from pet

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Life and we'll still talk a little bit. Don't go in.

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Speaker 3: Oh sure, it's all fun and games until someone ends

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up in a cone.

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Speaker 1: That's right, we are animals, deal with it. Headline radio.

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Speaker 3: Let's talk pets let's talk past it. Let's done. Pets

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Speaker 1: Hi, welcome back, Welcome here, pet Life Wady. We're talking

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about a couple of cases from last week, and Barney

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the one with the very aggressive Manago Perry's ectoma. Probably

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again we didn't buy obviously, and I'm saying, why much

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older dog? What would be a more aggressive treatment of

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any of these? Well, A, it could be amputation, B

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it could be radiation. All right, Chemo wouldn't help for

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this one. So we're looking at two pretty dramatic, drastic

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treatments for already sixteen year old dog. No, unless you

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have this academic urge to need to know, I don't

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recommend these fancy tests because if the result of a

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test is not going to change your approach to the case,

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then don't do the test. I mean, you could do it,

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spend the money. It's not going to change anything. But

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I just said, unless you have if you won't go

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to bed at nine till you know what it is,

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you're not gonna do anything about it anyway, then yeah,

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spend the money. But otherwise it's crazy. So Barney, we

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did not, and I totally agree, I would not push

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him in, but from my experience it's probably amangia Perry's

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iatoma because of the location, because what it looked like,

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and I've removed many of them in surgery. Anyway, he

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came back in on a Thursday for a super removal

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and that thing was amazing. He is betting his arms,

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he's got more energy, and he's sixteen. You want it

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from a big sixteen year old dog. But he's doing great.

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So those are the best things ever. I love. Those

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are the case is the happy endings? All right, two

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things I wanted to talk about number one. Maybe I'll

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leave you with the end with the other one the

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first one because I want to know your thoughts, and

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then we can talk about it more next week. But

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that's when it's shot. Collars. I had a dog. First

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of all, let me get prefaces. I am not a fan.

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I don't want to say I hate them, but I

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strongly dislike them because there only ever should be used

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by someone who is a pro at knowing dogs well,

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knowing how to use them, and who's going to tell

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you most of the time he doesn't use them. So

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that's an honest, really good, liable trainer with a lot

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of experience put in the hands of a novice or

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someone who does not really know how to use them

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will often reverse and in this particular case, it led

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to the death of a dog because of euthanasia. And

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you know, again I get it, and I supported it,

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but they took one to a trainer who've used for

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basic stuff. The dog is a very tough, aggressive doblemin pincher,

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very tough. I mean he would go after me. Now,

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the only two people that can really handle him was

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this woman who owned the dog and her dad. She

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still lived at home her dad, and other than that,

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you have to muggle him. He was really tough. So anyway,

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they were you know, the holidays, and they sent the

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dog back for another two week session of training. When

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they went to pick the dog up, and this trainer

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was one of these guys using shot collars, and the

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dog was in his cage, it was not really pretty

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and the dog literally had to put him there because

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the dog was very, very aggressive with them and the

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other dogs. So shock collars were the answer, but it

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wasn't the answer. It made it worse. Now when the

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dog came out and back home. Now, even though it

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was great typically with this girl and her dad. He

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started attack and biting them as well, and started looking

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at them. The brother came over, who he She said, well,

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you brother don't live at home anymore, but loved the brother.

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The brother was in playing with him, and he started

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to growl at the brother, so he carefully turned around

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to walk out of the down the hallway. The dog

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ran after him, jumped on him, and bit him the back.

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That is really weird. That's an attack. That's not leave

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me alone. You're getting too close to me. You're getting

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close to my toy. All right, I don't want a

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pets now. When a dog runs after somebody, that is

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really bad. My hunch is that that dog was so

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affected by the improper use of the shock collar. What

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was the association this dog made this Doug me the

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associate that you brought me here, you meaning mom, the dad,

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the brother. That's why I'm angry because you brought this

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pain on me, not naturally, just the person delivering the

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shock because remember the socket being remote. So now the

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dog is associated being in this place with the family

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who brought me here. It got really ugly. I mean,

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try to attack the girl when the dad came in

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and he took the bites from the dog so the

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girl can get out of the room. It's crazy and

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this is like Kujo. So anyway, in good conscience, you

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could not take this dog to another family. You did

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not want to put it because it would have been

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destroyed anyway, and maybe not so nicely. And they made

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the very tough decision. And I did not disagree that

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they really need to say goodbye to this dog. Anyway.

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The good news is they just brought a rescued puppy

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that is so cute. And you know again it is

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the looks on her face to now have a dog

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who now can she can pick up and she can

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cuddle and she can looks at her in the face.

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It's said to you, difference color hasn't been vibrated. Okay,

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so if you have vibrating what I recommend I like

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is the citronella collar. Citronella is a little dice they

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wear when the dog barked. It's not the only collar.

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The vibrating ones too that are accepted by a lot

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of humane groups. But the citronella with the vibration from

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the bar, the vocal bark, the chords, it emits a

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citronella spray. What it does, Okay, it hits all five sentence.

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First of all, when it sprays, they feel it okay

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on their chin. Number two, they see it as it

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brushes against their face, they hear it because it wishes. Okay,

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they smell it, and finally they taste it. They hate,

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so all five cents are gump and they hate the

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taste and the smell of the citronella when it's used properly.

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And what I found is that you when the owners

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put the collar on, they don't even have to refill

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the citronella liquid anymore. Just wearing the collar say okay,

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I guess I can't bark. So that is a successful device.

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It doesn't hurt them. They just don't like it. They

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don't like the smell of the taste. They don't like

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they don't like seeing that spray across their face. So

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that is totally fine, and that's why everybody really likes it,

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or maybe just some good training from professional. Absolutely absolutely,

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But most of the trainers I work with, except for

472
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maybe one or two, will approve of a shock collar

473
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from someone from a novice or someone who says they

474
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know how to use it, but they don't. It's never

475
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an excuse. It's never like I ran out of every

476
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other thing to do and I'm gonna lost, so I'm

477
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gonna do a shot collars. No, because you know that

478
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shot collars often backfire and it makes the dog worse

479
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and not better. So, but I do like the citronella

480
00:24:23,079 --> 00:24:25,480
collars are really good. A vibrating collar is good too,

481
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but it doesn't necessarily have the same Now, also, there

482
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are other callers out there that don't necessarily deliver a shock.

483
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I am not tried them, so I don't know personally,

484
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but I've heard that they're not as bad, and they just,

485
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you know, like women, I don't do this as much.

486
00:24:41,400 --> 00:24:43,279
Maybe you do, But guys, I mean, you want to

487
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test a nine vault battery? How do you test a

488
00:24:45,720 --> 00:24:48,720
nine vault battery? Right? You take it, touch it to

489
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your tongue, okay, and it gives you that little buzz

490
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And if it's a stronger buzz, you know it's still good.

491
00:24:55,480 --> 00:24:57,039
If it's weaker, no buds, you know you need a

492
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new battery. There are collars that deliver a little it's

493
00:25:00,240 --> 00:25:02,920
not a shock, it's a little vibrate, but that little

494
00:25:03,000 --> 00:25:07,200
buzz and those might be Okay. Again, I've not do

495
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for myself, so I don't know. I've never spoken anybody

496
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who has, but I understand from the humane groups that

497
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it is an alternative. Preferably. I like the citronella the

498
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best because everybody agrees that is, if it works, it's

499
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,559
the best approach. Another one is a penny can. I'm

500
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sure you've heard of it. That one. There was a

501
00:25:27,599 --> 00:25:29,880
group out there that had these little device that looked

502
00:25:29,920 --> 00:25:31,759
like a penny, but it was just a noise maker,

503
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and you would toss it not at the dog. Let

504
00:25:36,240 --> 00:25:41,039
me repeat, not at the dog, but in the dog's direction, okay,

505
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and that would stop them. They hear it, they see

506
00:25:44,319 --> 00:25:46,920
it go by them, and it stops them from barking.

507
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Sometimes it may even chase it and players start playing

508
00:25:49,160 --> 00:25:53,200
with it. But that is also a better alternative than

509
00:25:53,279 --> 00:25:56,319
any kind of shock delivering collar, which, as I said,

510
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I am not a fan. I love to know if

511
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any of your experience with used one, or had a

512
00:26:01,640 --> 00:26:04,000
trainer that used when, how it work? Did it work well?

513
00:26:04,359 --> 00:26:06,640
So I'd love to hear from you. All Right, we're

514
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out of time, but I'm going to leave you with

515
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,480
something to think about. And I want your responses next week.

516
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So even if you if you have anybody that you

517
00:26:13,400 --> 00:26:16,319
know that does this and they want to chime in,

518
00:26:16,559 --> 00:26:20,680
I'd love to hear because there is definitely the disagreement

519
00:26:21,400 --> 00:26:27,240
between the animal person like I am and animal people

520
00:26:27,359 --> 00:26:30,920
that are more behavior as trainers. And well, we'll get

521
00:26:30,960 --> 00:26:34,000
into the discussion next week, but I will tell you this,

522
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I want your opinions. How do you feel about your

523
00:26:37,559 --> 00:26:40,799
dog's sleeping in bed with you? Is it a pro?

524
00:26:41,279 --> 00:26:43,640
Is it a ya? Is it a nay? If so?

525
00:26:43,880 --> 00:26:47,839
Or if not? Why? And more importantly, what type of

526
00:26:47,920 --> 00:26:52,480
behavior issues have you noted for those that have allowed

527
00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:55,440
their pets to sleep in bed with you? So I

528
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don't want answers now. I want you to think about it.

529
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I want you to come back and we'll talk about

530
00:27:00,599 --> 00:27:03,160
it next week. But I certainly have my feelings. I

531
00:27:03,200 --> 00:27:06,279
think you know them already, so I'm sure you've seen

532
00:27:06,319 --> 00:27:09,839
pictures of my bed and what it looks like. But

533
00:27:10,480 --> 00:27:13,240
it's something that i'd love to hear comments. I'd love

534
00:27:13,279 --> 00:27:15,079
to hear the pros and I love to hear the

535
00:27:15,119 --> 00:27:17,960
cons because I just don't know how many of these

536
00:27:18,000 --> 00:27:21,319
behaviorists who are many of them are cons Are they right?

537
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,279
Maybe where I'm doing it wrong, I don't know. But anyway,

538
00:27:24,519 --> 00:27:26,960
so have a great week everybody. If you're here in

539
00:27:27,079 --> 00:27:29,680
La I see the sun trying to come out, and

540
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I'll be here next week. And is next week already?

541
00:27:34,519 --> 00:27:36,799
It's says the eighty Yeah, next week is more early weekend.

542
00:27:37,039 --> 00:27:40,720
I'll be here my early weekend even if even if

543
00:27:40,759 --> 00:27:43,640
you can and you are traveling, if you can hop on,

544
00:27:43,720 --> 00:27:46,480
that'd be great, but I don't want to not do this.

545
00:27:46,519 --> 00:27:48,319
The other time I won't do the show is if

546
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I'm not in town. And as you know, if I'm

547
00:27:50,599 --> 00:27:53,640
someplace and I'm not in an airplay getting there we're

548
00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:56,240
coming back from I will do the show from wherever

549
00:27:56,279 --> 00:27:58,599
I am. So you've seen me come from Cabo whereever

550
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I are done. So I love doing the show. I

551
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love being here for you. So if you have questions,

552
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save them up. But do think about does your dogs

553
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sleep bed with you? And let me know why might

554
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not yet.

555
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