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Forward 12 00:00:34.399 --> 00:00:37.359 slash the Bigfoot Society and now let's get on with 13 00:00:37.399 --> 00:00:41.320 the show. Ari at Bigfoot Society, You've got the privilege 14 00:00:41.359 --> 00:00:45.200 of talking to ar La Collette Williams tonight. She's an 15 00:00:45.240 --> 00:00:49.479 individual that has known Bigfoot for the last seventy years. 16 00:00:49.600 --> 00:00:53.920 She's got a lot to share about that time that 17 00:00:54.000 --> 00:00:59.280 she's been one that has known Bigfoot, and I'm excited 18 00:00:59.280 --> 00:01:02.000 to talk to you today. Arla, your name has come 19 00:01:02.079 --> 00:01:04.879 up in a few conversations, but it's great to finally 20 00:01:04.920 --> 00:01:07.400 be able to get you on the phone. And how 21 00:01:07.439 --> 00:01:08.280 are you doing tonight? 22 00:01:09.359 --> 00:01:14.079 I'm doing good. I love to talk about my life. 23 00:01:14.400 --> 00:01:18.959 And you know, I came into this several years ago. 24 00:01:19.159 --> 00:01:23.400 I got dropped down into the research community and I 25 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:27.319 just started sharing. I'm not a researcher at all. I 26 00:01:27.359 --> 00:01:32.599 don't research. I've you know, known them or almost all 27 00:01:32.640 --> 00:01:37.599 my life, So I don't research. I do document, you know, 28 00:01:37.760 --> 00:01:45.079 some things, but I don't need to research to prove anything. Actually, 29 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:50.920 I'm not about proving anything anyway. I just share my experiences. 30 00:01:52.599 --> 00:01:56.840 That's awesome. And you're from the great state of Oklahoma, correct, 31 00:01:58.000 --> 00:01:59.680 I am very cool. 32 00:02:00.079 --> 00:02:00.200 Call. 33 00:02:00.239 --> 00:02:04.519 I bet you that lends itself to some really interesting interactions. 34 00:02:04.519 --> 00:02:06.920 Sound there, But Arla, how far back do we want 35 00:02:06.959 --> 00:02:08.759 to go? Do we want to go all the way 36 00:02:08.800 --> 00:02:11.039 back to the beginning of when when you think you 37 00:02:11.080 --> 00:02:15.680 had your first interaction? You said, it's it's maybe a 38 00:02:15.680 --> 00:02:20.360 little hard to remember, but your your mom has told 39 00:02:20.400 --> 00:02:22.360 you about that that time period. 40 00:02:23.360 --> 00:02:29.680 Yeah, Well, I had my first What I remember as 41 00:02:31.199 --> 00:02:36.319 an experience was I was sick, and I was at 42 00:02:36.360 --> 00:02:40.599 my grandmother's and I was outside sitting on the ground 43 00:02:40.759 --> 00:02:45.280 playing in the dirt with sticks and flowers and rocks. 44 00:02:45.439 --> 00:02:49.080 And I love to do that, and so I was 45 00:02:49.120 --> 00:02:53.159 sitting there playing, and I heard someone walk up and 46 00:02:53.280 --> 00:02:57.199 I thought it was my grandmother. And when I looked up, 47 00:02:58.039 --> 00:03:03.080 it wasn't my grandma, or it was what I've come 48 00:03:03.120 --> 00:03:08.960 to call a hairy kid, which was a young juvenile male, 49 00:03:10.039 --> 00:03:13.319 and he probably, you know, I just have to guess 50 00:03:13.439 --> 00:03:17.719 it how far, but I know he wasn't very far 51 00:03:17.960 --> 00:03:22.639 from me, maybe ten or fifteen feet, you know, from me. 52 00:03:23.360 --> 00:03:26.879 We looked at each other for a little while, you know, 53 00:03:26.960 --> 00:03:31.879 and I think that's a hairy kid, because that was 54 00:03:31.960 --> 00:03:38.360 my only reference that what this was. I knew that, 55 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:44.479 you know, he looked kind of human, but that was 56 00:03:44.680 --> 00:03:49.280 in my mind. So after a little while, he turned 57 00:03:49.280 --> 00:03:53.319 around and walked back off into the woods, and I 58 00:03:53.439 --> 00:03:58.120 jumped up and went in and told my grandmother what 59 00:03:58.280 --> 00:04:03.319 I'd seen, and she said, you know, I asked her, 60 00:04:03.319 --> 00:04:06.080 I said, what was that, Granny? And she said, what 61 00:04:06.159 --> 00:04:09.960 do you think it was? And so she let me 62 00:04:10.039 --> 00:04:13.840 think about it for a little while, and then she 63 00:04:14.120 --> 00:04:19.040 started to teach me about them because she knew also 64 00:04:19.560 --> 00:04:26.319 and had known her whole life as well. The actual 65 00:04:27.079 --> 00:04:31.519 encounter that I was talking about, I was free, and 66 00:04:32.199 --> 00:04:34.839 I was sitting on the bed in my mom and 67 00:04:34.920 --> 00:04:41.120 Dad's bedroom and the back window was open, and my 68 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:45.240 dad was taking a bath. Mom was in the closet 69 00:04:45.560 --> 00:04:49.160 getting clothes ready for the next day, and she heard 70 00:04:49.199 --> 00:04:54.639 me talking to someone, and so she came out of 71 00:04:54.680 --> 00:04:59.079 the closet and she looked at the window and she 72 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:03.360 screamed for my dad and she said, Arla's talking to 73 00:05:04.199 --> 00:05:10.199 a dirty, hairy man. Well, Mom and I were talking 74 00:05:12.319 --> 00:05:17.800 several years ago, and she asked me, she said, Arlie, 75 00:05:17.839 --> 00:05:21.199 do you remember that time? And she went through the 76 00:05:21.279 --> 00:05:26.000 story and I said, yes, Mom, I do, because I remember, 77 00:05:27.199 --> 00:05:30.480 you know, you screaming, and I remember Dad coming out 78 00:05:30.480 --> 00:05:32.920 of the bathroom and he went to the kitchen and 79 00:05:32.920 --> 00:05:36.040 he got a butcher knife and ran out the door. 80 00:05:37.560 --> 00:05:43.319 And she looked at me and she said, do you 81 00:05:43.439 --> 00:05:48.079 think that was a bigfoot? And I said, well, Mom, 82 00:05:48.480 --> 00:05:54.279 what do you think? And she said, oh, I sibed 83 00:05:54.439 --> 00:06:00.040 bigfoot And I said, yes, Mom, I think you did. 84 00:06:02.000 --> 00:06:02.199 That. 85 00:06:02.879 --> 00:06:07.480 You know, at that time, at three, I talked to everything. 86 00:06:08.839 --> 00:06:12.639 It's just always been what I've done ever since I 87 00:06:12.720 --> 00:06:16.800 was little. I started running off to the woods. When 88 00:06:16.839 --> 00:06:21.120 I could walk really good and get away, I would 89 00:06:21.160 --> 00:06:26.480 just take off, and so it you know, at three, 90 00:06:26.680 --> 00:06:29.959 of course, I didn't have it in my mind what 91 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:37.800 a bigfoot would be, but at six I knew that, 92 00:06:38.759 --> 00:06:43.120 you know, this was a hairy kid, and I'd never 93 00:06:43.199 --> 00:06:47.240 seen a hairy kid before like this. And then of 94 00:06:47.279 --> 00:06:52.800 course my grandmothers then a little later, began to teach 95 00:06:52.879 --> 00:06:54.639 me about them. 96 00:06:55.160 --> 00:06:58.879 Oh, that's that's fascinating. What area of Oklahoma was this 97 00:06:58.959 --> 00:07:00.800 sin it is? 98 00:07:01.839 --> 00:07:10.399 Well, it was about probably forty five miles from Tulsa, Oklahoma, 99 00:07:10.480 --> 00:07:14.680 which would be kind of in the eastern part of 100 00:07:14.720 --> 00:07:18.600 the state. I live in the southeastern part of the 101 00:07:18.759 --> 00:07:25.480 state now, but that was it's probably where that happened, 102 00:07:25.519 --> 00:07:29.399 maybe fifty miles as the crow flies from where I 103 00:07:29.519 --> 00:07:30.120 live now. 104 00:07:31.759 --> 00:07:36.439 Is that a Would that be in a certain county? 105 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:41.439 Yeah, it would be in Okmogie County. 106 00:07:41.639 --> 00:07:48.079 Actually interesting, I think it's it's incredibly interesting how your 107 00:07:48.120 --> 00:07:54.920 grandmother seems to be really, really familiar with the bigfoot, 108 00:07:55.360 --> 00:07:59.879 but yet your mom like that's her introduction to them. 109 00:08:01.040 --> 00:08:04.959 Yeah. Well, my mom was afraid of everything when she 110 00:08:05.160 --> 00:08:12.199 was lit. She just you know, as to whether my 111 00:08:12.279 --> 00:08:16.399 grandmother would have ever taught me about them, you know, 112 00:08:16.839 --> 00:08:20.920 like she did, if I hadn't had that encounter, I 113 00:08:20.959 --> 00:08:27.519 don't know if she would or not. After that, of course, 114 00:08:27.680 --> 00:08:32.559 it opened my whole world to them. One of the 115 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:37.320 things we didn't do when I was young and growing 116 00:08:37.440 --> 00:08:40.840 up fan for many years, we didn't talk about them 117 00:08:41.480 --> 00:08:46.120 in public or I mean, we might have friends or 118 00:08:46.200 --> 00:08:51.120 something that we would talk with, but we just didn't 119 00:08:51.519 --> 00:08:54.320 talk about talk about them at all. 120 00:08:56.440 --> 00:08:59.360 Why do you think that that was that they weren't 121 00:08:59.399 --> 00:08:59.960 talked about. 122 00:09:02.399 --> 00:09:06.519 Well, I'm sure there were probably a lot of reasons, 123 00:09:06.799 --> 00:09:10.759 part of that being people would think you're crazy, But 124 00:09:11.159 --> 00:09:16.080 it was more than that. You know, you had a 125 00:09:16.120 --> 00:09:20.799 lot of people that you just didn't talk about it. 126 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:27.559 They were special and not everybody saw them. And so, 127 00:09:28.000 --> 00:09:32.720 you know, it's only been probably i would say, in 128 00:09:32.799 --> 00:09:39.440 the last ten years, maybe fifteen, this whole topic has exploded, 129 00:09:41.480 --> 00:09:47.720 and before that you just you just didn't hear much 130 00:09:48.000 --> 00:09:51.960 about it, other than maybe in a magazine or you 131 00:09:51.960 --> 00:09:56.519 know whatever. Of course, the Patterson Gimlin film that was 132 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:02.440 in sixty seven it opened up up talk about it, 133 00:10:03.080 --> 00:10:08.399 but we steel didn't, you know, talk openly about it. 134 00:10:12.879 --> 00:10:17.000 You mentioned that your grandmother taught you a lot of 135 00:10:17.039 --> 00:10:21.840 things regarding this topic. Do you remember any things that 136 00:10:21.960 --> 00:10:25.039 she taught you that really stand out? In your mind 137 00:10:25.120 --> 00:10:28.639 after all these years. 138 00:10:28.679 --> 00:10:33.879 Everything she taught me was important. One of the things 139 00:10:34.000 --> 00:10:39.759 that she said is they are our neighbors, and as 140 00:10:39.960 --> 00:10:45.360 our neighbors, we are to be respectful. And you know, 141 00:10:45.600 --> 00:10:49.480 she'd say, you know, sometimes you see your neighbors and 142 00:10:49.559 --> 00:10:53.840 sometimes you don't, and sometimes you'd talk to your neighbors 143 00:10:54.360 --> 00:11:01.679 and sometimes you don't. So she taught me respect, but 144 00:11:01.879 --> 00:11:06.840 she taught me respect of everything. Everything in the woods. 145 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:13.840 I was never taught to fear anything, regardless of what 146 00:11:14.120 --> 00:11:18.039 it was. You know, from the time I was little, 147 00:11:18.200 --> 00:11:23.679 I saw things and did things, and I was never 148 00:11:23.840 --> 00:11:27.200 told I couldn't do those things or I couldn't say 149 00:11:27.279 --> 00:11:32.240 those things. I could say anything to her, and if 150 00:11:32.320 --> 00:11:35.200 I needed to talk about it, I get to ask 151 00:11:35.320 --> 00:11:43.000 her about it. So you know, that basis there was 152 00:11:43.200 --> 00:11:47.879 important because she always also said, they're like us in 153 00:11:47.960 --> 00:11:54.240 ways and they're not like us in ways, and so 154 00:11:55.360 --> 00:12:01.799 you know, that foundation of respect of them was laid 155 00:12:02.120 --> 00:12:07.799 very early in my life. So that was just that 156 00:12:08.000 --> 00:12:09.559 was how it was. 157 00:12:14.279 --> 00:12:19.519 After the interaction at age six, did you regularly have 158 00:12:19.919 --> 00:12:24.000 interactions after that or was there a period of time 159 00:12:24.080 --> 00:12:27.600 where maybe a few years and then you had something happen. 160 00:12:27.360 --> 00:12:36.720 Again, well, they were always around. Whether or not there 161 00:12:36.840 --> 00:12:42.799 was any kind of interaction. It just happened when it happened, 162 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:49.480 and I didn't go out to find them. In other words, 163 00:12:49.600 --> 00:12:52.440 I didn't set out and say, Okay, I'm going to 164 00:12:52.519 --> 00:12:55.639 go out and find them, because I was taught that 165 00:12:55.840 --> 00:13:01.480 was disrespectful as well. But I was in the woods 166 00:13:01.639 --> 00:13:05.919 all the time, so if they were around, I may 167 00:13:06.039 --> 00:13:09.240 know that they were around, and I may not. It 168 00:13:09.440 --> 00:13:15.159 just it goes back to that there are neighbors, you know, 169 00:13:15.799 --> 00:13:19.759 and your neighbors. If you have neighbors and they're busy 170 00:13:19.879 --> 00:13:23.480 doing something, you're not going to go bother your neighbors. 171 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:28.639 It's just, you know how I was taught. Now, through 172 00:13:28.639 --> 00:13:32.759 the years, I did see them from time to time. 173 00:13:33.919 --> 00:13:37.639 There was a period of time when I was raising 174 00:13:37.759 --> 00:13:44.000 my children and going through that part of my life, 175 00:13:46.240 --> 00:13:49.519 I would see them from time to time. We hiked 176 00:13:49.559 --> 00:13:53.399 a lot with the kids and camped a lot and 177 00:13:53.840 --> 00:13:58.000 did those kinds of things. Now, I never taught my 178 00:13:58.279 --> 00:14:02.559 children when they were young about them because there was 179 00:14:02.679 --> 00:14:09.279 no reason for me to do that, and so it 180 00:14:10.279 --> 00:14:15.360 just didn't happened. If one of them would have had 181 00:14:15.480 --> 00:14:24.360 an experience, then I would have taught them about them, 182 00:14:24.399 --> 00:14:30.840 but it was it wasn't necessary at that time for 183 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:33.080 me to do that at all. 184 00:14:34.840 --> 00:14:37.879 A question I usually ask people that I talked to, 185 00:14:38.320 --> 00:14:42.799 what do you feel that the Bigfoot actually is? 186 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:50.960 Well, they were here before we were, and they came 187 00:14:51.080 --> 00:14:57.720 here from someplace else, and so they are flesh and 188 00:14:57.799 --> 00:15:02.519 blood as sure as we are flesh and blood. But 189 00:15:02.639 --> 00:15:08.120 they also can do things. You know, people talk all 190 00:15:08.159 --> 00:15:12.000 the time about now you see them and now you don't. 191 00:15:12.279 --> 00:15:18.279 How did that happen? You know? So they have those abilities. 192 00:15:19.080 --> 00:15:23.759 I believe we have those abilities, but we walked away 193 00:15:23.879 --> 00:15:30.360 from those at some point. Many people still hold those abilities. 194 00:15:30.480 --> 00:15:37.879 I've seen elders do things that a lot of people 195 00:15:38.360 --> 00:15:43.039 say can't be done. One of the stories I tell 196 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:47.559 is when I was a teenager, there was an in 197 00:15:47.639 --> 00:15:49.919 demand that lived in the town that I. 198 00:15:49.840 --> 00:15:53.440 Grew up in, Big so society would be right back 199 00:15:53.480 --> 00:15:54.600 after these messages. 200 00:16:10.679 --> 00:16:13.720 He never had a car and he lived way out 201 00:16:13.720 --> 00:16:17.960 in the country, so he always walked. He'd seem walking 202 00:16:18.120 --> 00:16:21.759 downtown and if he was going home, he would be 203 00:16:21.919 --> 00:16:26.559 walking down towards the end of town and go out 204 00:16:26.559 --> 00:16:30.279 in the country. Well, one day after school, some kids 205 00:16:30.279 --> 00:16:35.879 and I were dragged Maine, and he was down at 206 00:16:35.919 --> 00:16:39.840 the end and was turning to go towards his home, 207 00:16:40.679 --> 00:16:43.360 and I said to the kids, I said, I'm going 208 00:16:43.440 --> 00:16:47.720 to stop and pick him up. And they started, no, no, 209 00:16:47.919 --> 00:16:51.759 he's got medicine. You can't do that. No, no. And 210 00:16:51.840 --> 00:16:55.639 what that meant was that there were things he did 211 00:16:57.399 --> 00:17:01.960 that they didn't consider or something that they wanted to 212 00:17:02.000 --> 00:17:06.559 be a part of. And actually they were definitely afraid. 213 00:17:07.279 --> 00:17:12.519 But I said, okay. But I drove past him and 214 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:16.119 went on the road out to his house. And that 215 00:17:16.240 --> 00:17:19.839 old road you had to drive in the middle of it. 216 00:17:20.119 --> 00:17:24.599 I mean, this was a long time ago, and it 217 00:17:24.799 --> 00:17:28.319 was several miles out to where he lived. I drove 218 00:17:28.559 --> 00:17:31.200 in the middle of the road all the way out there. 219 00:17:31.839 --> 00:17:37.079 No car passed me from behind, no car met me, 220 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:42.640 and we drove all the way out. When we got 221 00:17:42.799 --> 00:17:49.279 to his house, he was walking up on the porch. Now, 222 00:17:49.359 --> 00:17:55.599 how did he do that? He remembered how to do 223 00:17:55.680 --> 00:18:02.720 those things. One of our grandmother of the International Council 224 00:18:02.799 --> 00:18:07.119 of Thirteen Indigenous Grandmothers, who are grandmothers from around the 225 00:18:07.160 --> 00:18:10.759 world who have made a difference, we are at a 226 00:18:10.839 --> 00:18:16.960 gathering and there was a very very bad storm coming 227 00:18:17.759 --> 00:18:25.079 and it was headed right towards us. And she walked 228 00:18:25.119 --> 00:18:31.440 out and she put her hands out and she said 229 00:18:31.480 --> 00:18:35.279 some things. We weren't close enough to hear her. But 230 00:18:35.400 --> 00:18:41.400 when she put her hands up, that cloud moved, and 231 00:18:41.440 --> 00:18:47.079 there were several of us saw that cloud move and 232 00:18:47.200 --> 00:18:53.759 change its direction. Now, how did she do that? She 233 00:18:53.960 --> 00:19:01.440 remembered the connection. So you know, people nowadays you hear 234 00:19:01.599 --> 00:19:05.799 of all kinds of things that people are doing that. 235 00:19:06.680 --> 00:19:11.000 So many have said, you know, you can't do those things, 236 00:19:11.400 --> 00:19:15.240 but you can do them if you remember what connection. 237 00:19:19.079 --> 00:19:23.640 So you actually you saw that individual have that connection 238 00:19:23.759 --> 00:19:25.240 with the cloud in person. 239 00:19:26.599 --> 00:19:30.039 Yes, I did. I wasn't the only one there either. 240 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:35.799 Do you have Native American heritage? 241 00:19:37.119 --> 00:19:43.039 I have Cherokee blood? My grandmother told me from the 242 00:19:43.200 --> 00:19:47.119 time I was little enough to understand that I carried 243 00:19:47.240 --> 00:19:53.039 Cherokee blood, but I carry a lot of other blood 244 00:19:53.559 --> 00:19:57.799 as well. And what she told me was, if I 245 00:19:58.119 --> 00:20:04.000 dishonor in blood, then I've dishonored all the blood that 246 00:20:04.119 --> 00:20:08.640 I carried. I don't have a CDIB, so I'm not 247 00:20:08.759 --> 00:20:14.559 a registered tribal member. And I wasn't taught by her 248 00:20:15.079 --> 00:20:19.759 in the Cherokee way. I was taught by her own 249 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:27.079 experiences of a photo. Several people have seen it. It's my grandmother. 250 00:20:28.640 --> 00:20:33.440 She couldn't remember exactly what year it was. She was 251 00:20:33.480 --> 00:20:38.920 giving me some photos, probably a couple of years before 252 00:20:38.960 --> 00:20:42.920 she died, and we were looking through them, and there 253 00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:48.400 was this one photo that she was all stretched out 254 00:20:48.519 --> 00:20:57.200 walking and it's the Bigfoot Walk and I think we 255 00:20:57.359 --> 00:21:01.480 figured it's somewhere early fifties. I don't know for sure, 256 00:21:02.279 --> 00:21:06.000 but I said, Grinn, what were you doing? And she said, 257 00:21:06.160 --> 00:21:10.759 I was doing the walk And that's what that picture 258 00:21:10.960 --> 00:21:16.000 is is of her demonstrating out of the Bigfoot Walk 259 00:21:16.400 --> 00:21:22.079 and she has this grin on her face. So and 260 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:27.359 my grandfather, I think she said, took that photo. So 261 00:21:27.599 --> 00:21:31.680 it wasn't a photo I ever saw in my whole life. 262 00:21:31.920 --> 00:21:36.920 And I was always going through her photos and when 263 00:21:37.240 --> 00:21:40.200 some of us kids would get together, we'd get the 264 00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:44.880 picture box out and go through all the old photos. 265 00:21:45.359 --> 00:21:49.960 But I never saw it until that couple of years 266 00:21:50.000 --> 00:21:54.359 before she passed, when she was giving me some photos. 267 00:21:54.359 --> 00:21:57.559 So I don't know where she had it. I didn't 268 00:21:57.599 --> 00:22:00.400 ask her. I didn't think to ask her, you know, 269 00:22:01.240 --> 00:22:02.319 where she had had that. 270 00:22:02.680 --> 00:22:07.960 But so when you say that she's doing the bigfoot 271 00:22:07.960 --> 00:22:10.160 walk in the photo. Can you kind of describe what 272 00:22:11.000 --> 00:22:11.680 she was doing? 273 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:16.279 Well, she's got that one arm stretch to the front, 274 00:22:16.400 --> 00:22:21.799 the others want back in her feet and a long 275 00:22:21.880 --> 00:22:25.880 way apart. You could definitely tell what it is when 276 00:22:25.960 --> 00:22:29.680 you look at it. So if that was in the 277 00:22:29.759 --> 00:22:35.119 early fifties, the Patterson Gimlin hadn't even been filmed yet, 278 00:22:36.000 --> 00:22:41.799 Jerry Cruz, that whole thing right, which was fifteen Yeah, 279 00:22:42.119 --> 00:22:46.160 hadn't happened yet, and yet she knew. 280 00:22:49.480 --> 00:22:54.759 That's fascinating. You mentioned something where it's almost like people 281 00:22:54.839 --> 00:22:59.839 forget their connections to things, and some people have still 282 00:23:00.079 --> 00:23:02.480 have those connections. And I've talked to a lot of 283 00:23:02.480 --> 00:23:05.880 people over the last five years, and I had some 284 00:23:05.920 --> 00:23:09.240 really interesting things happen in Oregon. But do you think 285 00:23:09.319 --> 00:23:13.319 there's there's kind of a theory that I have where 286 00:23:14.680 --> 00:23:16.480 I don't know if it's it's crazy or not, but 287 00:23:16.799 --> 00:23:20.480 being in close proximity or being around the same area 288 00:23:20.720 --> 00:23:25.200 that these big foot are could help people remember or 289 00:23:25.319 --> 00:23:29.880 unlock certain things I do. Do you know what I mean? 290 00:23:30.279 --> 00:23:32.920 Does it sound kind of weird or no? 291 00:23:33.880 --> 00:23:40.240 Not my life it's weird. It's interesting with them and 292 00:23:40.400 --> 00:23:42.799 you know, through the years, I've talked to a lot 293 00:23:42.839 --> 00:23:47.279 of Indigenous people from around the world, not just Native 294 00:23:47.319 --> 00:23:53.680 Americans here, but other elders as well, and a lot 295 00:23:53.720 --> 00:23:59.440 of them have talked about, you know, about this our 296 00:23:59.799 --> 00:24:03.920 law looking away from it. In the case of the 297 00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:10.839 thirteen Indigenous grandmothers, they did many things that you know, 298 00:24:11.039 --> 00:24:15.279 I was able to witness hundreds of people witness not 299 00:24:15.559 --> 00:24:22.319 just me that you know, you go, wow, that happened. 300 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:31.680 That happen And it's just amazing that connecting back into 301 00:24:31.720 --> 00:24:37.000 those things. And it's as simple as shifting your paradigm, 302 00:24:38.319 --> 00:24:42.640 opening your mind and shift that paradigm, that belief system 303 00:24:42.799 --> 00:24:48.359 that you have, and then open your heart, and it's 304 00:24:48.440 --> 00:24:54.640 amazing what all comes to you. It's one of the 305 00:24:54.680 --> 00:25:02.400 easiest things in the world to having en counter. And 306 00:25:02.440 --> 00:25:05.799 you know, people tell me all the time, I've been 307 00:25:05.920 --> 00:25:10.079 trying for years, you know, and it's like, what are 308 00:25:10.119 --> 00:25:14.519 you doing, you know, what are you doing to try 309 00:25:14.640 --> 00:25:20.400 to have this encounter? And you know, they are, well, 310 00:25:20.440 --> 00:25:23.160 I'm going out in the woods and I'm looking, and 311 00:25:23.240 --> 00:25:27.000 I'm knocking on trees, and I'm doing food and I'm 312 00:25:27.039 --> 00:25:32.039 doing all this stuff. And if that's what you want 313 00:25:32.240 --> 00:25:37.279 and If that's the interaction that you want, that's fine. 314 00:25:37.559 --> 00:25:43.079 But if you want to know more, you know, and 315 00:25:43.559 --> 00:25:46.480 I don't know how many people through the years that 316 00:25:46.559 --> 00:25:51.759 I've talked with who then shifted their paradigm went at 317 00:25:51.839 --> 00:26:00.359 this a totally different way and had an encounter. Was 318 00:26:01.200 --> 00:26:05.160 been working with a couple of people, just helping them. 319 00:26:05.240 --> 00:26:08.559 I don't tell people what they have to do. We 320 00:26:08.759 --> 00:26:13.480 just talk and I listen to you know, what they're 321 00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:19.200 saying and how they're seeing it, and so they'll begin 322 00:26:19.319 --> 00:26:25.920 to grasp that. You know, this is as simple as 323 00:26:27.279 --> 00:26:32.880 going in anywhere, whether you're going into the woods or whatever, 324 00:26:34.359 --> 00:26:40.480 and you're being very respectful, You've opened that heart, you've 325 00:26:40.519 --> 00:26:48.200 shifted your paradigm, and you just beat go have fun. 326 00:26:48.920 --> 00:26:51.880 Don't go thinking I'm going to go out there and 327 00:26:51.960 --> 00:26:55.720 I'm going to see something. Go be in the woods 328 00:26:56.839 --> 00:27:01.559 and enjoy yourself and love it and become a part 329 00:27:01.960 --> 00:27:08.079 of that. And people all the time have those encounters. 330 00:27:08.799 --> 00:27:12.960 It's you know, I talked to people all the time 331 00:27:13.519 --> 00:27:17.960 who've had an encounter. They had been trying for years 332 00:27:18.039 --> 00:27:23.160 to have an encounter or to have anything, and it 333 00:27:23.440 --> 00:27:30.200 just wasn't happening for them. And when they changed their approach. 334 00:27:30.960 --> 00:27:34.759 Things began to happen. Maybe in the beginning all they 335 00:27:34.880 --> 00:27:41.559 heard were whoops, or maybe they heard what sounds like 336 00:27:41.839 --> 00:27:48.359 knocking on trees. Maybe they saw a structure that looked 337 00:27:48.559 --> 00:27:52.480 strange to them, like it couldn't have been naturally formed, 338 00:27:53.440 --> 00:27:59.279 or they saw footprints. All of these things are part 339 00:27:59.680 --> 00:28:05.960 of that beginning understanding for a lot of people. But 340 00:28:06.079 --> 00:28:11.400 you take it one step more. You're there, and I 341 00:28:11.480 --> 00:28:17.799 always tell people if you feel uncomfortable, if you feel 342 00:28:17.839 --> 00:28:23.319 like you're being watched, or you just have that feeling 343 00:28:23.559 --> 00:28:28.200 like maybe I shouldn't be here, that you start talking. 344 00:28:29.720 --> 00:28:33.319 Tell them who you are, and I do it out loud. 345 00:28:33.920 --> 00:28:38.839 You know, whether you see them or not, just start talking, 346 00:28:40.119 --> 00:28:42.759 tell them who you are, tell them why you're there. 347 00:28:44.799 --> 00:28:50.319 And talking to them like that, whether you see them 348 00:28:50.480 --> 00:28:57.000 or not, puts in your mind that this is a 349 00:28:57.039 --> 00:29:02.319 being that understands you, and they do understand you. And 350 00:29:02.400 --> 00:29:09.759 so now you're trying to get to know someone that 351 00:29:09.839 --> 00:29:14.519 you'd like to know, and it's respectful to introduce yourself 352 00:29:15.359 --> 00:29:19.759 and why are you there? And I also tell them 353 00:29:19.839 --> 00:29:25.279 if you can't get past your fear or your uneasiness 354 00:29:25.599 --> 00:29:30.359 at that point, it's very simple turn around and just leave. 355 00:29:31.039 --> 00:29:36.599 Don't push well, because that fear is going to block everything, 356 00:29:37.279 --> 00:29:40.799 or you're going to have an encounter that you feel 357 00:29:41.839 --> 00:29:51.039 is a fearful encounter. So it is that simple. And 358 00:29:51.119 --> 00:29:55.839 I've seen it happen so many times in my life 359 00:29:56.119 --> 00:30:01.599 in this bigfoot world of people, that those things do happen. 360 00:30:05.200 --> 00:30:09.200 That's very, very good advice. I've actually talked to more 361 00:30:09.279 --> 00:30:12.880 than a few people lately where they have done that verbally, 362 00:30:12.960 --> 00:30:17.839 out loud communication. And then an interesting thing that's common 363 00:30:17.920 --> 00:30:22.359 between all of them is that usually right after they'll 364 00:30:22.400 --> 00:30:25.440 say something, there'll be something that will happen in the 365 00:30:25.440 --> 00:30:29.880 physical world as a response. Yeah, is that something you've 366 00:30:29.920 --> 00:30:30.799 experienced as well? 367 00:30:32.079 --> 00:30:35.400 Yeah, And you know I tell people too, don't negate 368 00:30:36.319 --> 00:30:41.440 something that happens that you're not sure about. Don't just 369 00:30:41.519 --> 00:30:46.079 negate it and talk it away, because that's a very 370 00:30:46.119 --> 00:30:50.559 easy thing to talk it away. No I didn't hear that, 371 00:30:51.079 --> 00:30:55.599 or no I didn't see that, and just let it 372 00:30:55.680 --> 00:31:01.559 be what it was and just continue, you know, doing 373 00:31:02.240 --> 00:31:06.519 what you're doing. I know I've spoke at conferences over 374 00:31:06.599 --> 00:31:10.640 the last several years across the United States and into 375 00:31:10.720 --> 00:31:15.680 British Columbia and One of the things that I always 376 00:31:15.799 --> 00:31:19.640 tell people when i'm speaking. The first thing is you 377 00:31:19.680 --> 00:31:23.519 don't have to believe the thing I'm going to say. 378 00:31:24.319 --> 00:31:27.599 I'm not trying to prove anything to you. I'm going 379 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:31.680 to share my experiences. 380 00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:34.640 Big for society who will be right back after these messages. 381 00:31:50.759 --> 00:31:54.440 The one thing that I do ask of you is 382 00:31:54.559 --> 00:31:58.079 don't just throw it out. If I say things that 383 00:31:58.160 --> 00:32:01.319 you think that there's no way it can be that way, 384 00:32:01.880 --> 00:32:05.799 don't throw it out. Just file it away somewhere and 385 00:32:05.839 --> 00:32:09.240 then if you have something happened, or maybe you have 386 00:32:09.279 --> 00:32:14.200 a friend that you trust has something happened, then you've 387 00:32:14.200 --> 00:32:20.079 got something to go back and look at. So it 388 00:32:20.480 --> 00:32:24.240 you know, we tend to want to well, I don't 389 00:32:24.279 --> 00:32:28.240 believe that, so you know, I'm not going to think 390 00:32:28.279 --> 00:32:29.799 about it anymore. 391 00:32:32.519 --> 00:32:36.839 That's really interesting. Do you feel that you're actively communicating 392 00:32:36.839 --> 00:32:39.440 with any Bigfoot in recent years? 393 00:32:40.680 --> 00:32:45.519 Oh? Yeah. In my one book, My Life with the 394 00:32:45.559 --> 00:32:52.039 Harry People, it chronicles several years of my being a 395 00:32:52.160 --> 00:32:59.160 part of their lives. And it's interesting because I've always 396 00:32:59.359 --> 00:33:04.640 known of what people call the paranormal aspect of them. 397 00:33:05.000 --> 00:33:08.519 I've always known that about them. That was just part 398 00:33:08.559 --> 00:33:12.160 of it. Part of my teaching, part of my understandings, 399 00:33:12.200 --> 00:33:17.079 and part of my experiences. So I don't have a 400 00:33:17.240 --> 00:33:25.640 problem with that part that a lot of my experience 401 00:33:25.880 --> 00:33:31.400