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Speaker 1: the show. Ari at Bigfoot Society, You've got the privilege
Speaker 1: of talking to ar La Collette Williams tonight. She's an
Speaker 1: individual that has known Bigfoot for the last seventy years.
Speaker 1: She's got a lot to share about that time that
Speaker 1: she's been one that has known Bigfoot, and I'm excited
Speaker 1: to talk to you today. Arla, your name has come
Speaker 1: up in a few conversations, but it's great to finally
Speaker 1: be able to get you on the phone. And how
Speaker 1: are you doing tonight?
Speaker 2: I'm doing good. I love to talk about my life.
Speaker 2: And you know, I came into this several years ago.
Speaker 2: I got dropped down into the research community and I
Speaker 2: just started sharing. I'm not a researcher at all. I
Speaker 2: don't research. I've you know, known them or almost all
Speaker 2: my life, So I don't research. I do document, you know,
Speaker 2: some things, but I don't need to research to prove anything. Actually,
Speaker 2: I'm not about proving anything anyway. I just share my experiences.
Speaker 1: That's awesome. And you're from the great state of Oklahoma, correct,
Speaker 1: I am very cool.
Speaker 2: Call.
Speaker 1: I bet you that lends itself to some really interesting interactions.
Speaker 1: Sound there, But Arla, how far back do we want
Speaker 1: to go? Do we want to go all the way
Speaker 1: back to the beginning of when when you think you
Speaker 1: had your first interaction? You said, it's it's maybe a
Speaker 1: little hard to remember, but your your mom has told
Speaker 1: you about that that time period.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Well, I had my first What I remember as
Speaker 2: an experience was I was sick, and I was at
Speaker 2: my grandmother's and I was outside sitting on the ground
Speaker 2: playing in the dirt with sticks and flowers and rocks.
Speaker 2: And I love to do that, and so I was
Speaker 2: sitting there playing, and I heard someone walk up and
Speaker 2: I thought it was my grandmother. And when I looked up,
Speaker 2: it wasn't my grandma, or it was what I've come
Speaker 2: to call a hairy kid, which was a young juvenile male,
Speaker 2: and he probably, you know, I just have to guess
Speaker 2: it how far, but I know he wasn't very far
Speaker 2: from me, maybe ten or fifteen feet, you know, from me.
Speaker 2: We looked at each other for a little while, you know,
Speaker 2: and I think that's a hairy kid, because that was
Speaker 2: my only reference that what this was. I knew that,
Speaker 2: you know, he looked kind of human, but that was
Speaker 2: in my mind. So after a little while, he turned
Speaker 2: around and walked back off into the woods, and I
Speaker 2: jumped up and went in and told my grandmother what
Speaker 2: I'd seen, and she said, you know, I asked her,
Speaker 2: I said, what was that, Granny? And she said, what
Speaker 2: do you think it was? And so she let me
Speaker 2: think about it for a little while, and then she
Speaker 2: started to teach me about them because she knew also
Speaker 2: and had known her whole life as well. The actual
Speaker 2: encounter that I was talking about, I was free, and
Speaker 2: I was sitting on the bed in my mom and
Speaker 2: Dad's bedroom and the back window was open, and my
Speaker 2: dad was taking a bath. Mom was in the closet
Speaker 2: getting clothes ready for the next day, and she heard
Speaker 2: me talking to someone, and so she came out of
Speaker 2: the closet and she looked at the window and she
Speaker 2: screamed for my dad and she said, Arla's talking to
Speaker 2: a dirty, hairy man. Well, Mom and I were talking
Speaker 2: several years ago, and she asked me, she said, Arlie,
Speaker 2: do you remember that time? And she went through the
Speaker 2: story and I said, yes, Mom, I do, because I remember,
Speaker 2: you know, you screaming, and I remember Dad coming out
Speaker 2: of the bathroom and he went to the kitchen and
Speaker 2: he got a butcher knife and ran out the door.
Speaker 2: And she looked at me and she said, do you
Speaker 2: think that was a bigfoot? And I said, well, Mom,
Speaker 2: what do you think? And she said, oh, I sibed
Speaker 2: bigfoot And I said, yes, Mom, I think you did.
Speaker 3: That.
Speaker 2: You know, at that time, at three, I talked to everything.
Speaker 2: It's just always been what I've done ever since I
Speaker 2: was little. I started running off to the woods. When
Speaker 2: I could walk really good and get away, I would
Speaker 2: just take off, and so it you know, at three,
Speaker 2: of course, I didn't have it in my mind what
Speaker 2: a bigfoot would be, but at six I knew that,
Speaker 2: you know, this was a hairy kid, and I'd never
Speaker 2: seen a hairy kid before like this. And then of
Speaker 2: course my grandmothers then a little later, began to teach
Speaker 2: me about them.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's that's fascinating. What area of Oklahoma was this
Speaker 1: sin it is?
Speaker 2: Well, it was about probably forty five miles from Tulsa, Oklahoma,
Speaker 2: which would be kind of in the eastern part of
Speaker 2: the state. I live in the southeastern part of the
Speaker 2: state now, but that was it's probably where that happened,
Speaker 2: maybe fifty miles as the crow flies from where I
Speaker 2: live now.
Speaker 1: Is that a Would that be in a certain county?
Speaker 2: Yeah, it would be in Okmogie County.
Speaker 1: Actually interesting, I think it's it's incredibly interesting how your
Speaker 1: grandmother seems to be really, really familiar with the bigfoot,
Speaker 1: but yet your mom like that's her introduction to them.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Well, my mom was afraid of everything when she
Speaker 2: was lit. She just you know, as to whether my
Speaker 2: grandmother would have ever taught me about them, you know,
Speaker 2: like she did, if I hadn't had that encounter, I
Speaker 2: don't know if she would or not. After that, of course,
Speaker 2: it opened my whole world to them. One of the
Speaker 2: things we didn't do when I was young and growing
Speaker 2: up fan for many years, we didn't talk about them
Speaker 2: in public or I mean, we might have friends or
Speaker 2: something that we would talk with, but we just didn't
Speaker 2: talk about talk about them at all.
Speaker 1: Why do you think that that was that they weren't
Speaker 1: talked about.
Speaker 2: Well, I'm sure there were probably a lot of reasons,
Speaker 2: part of that being people would think you're crazy, But
Speaker 2: it was more than that. You know, you had a
Speaker 2: lot of people that you just didn't talk about it.
Speaker 2: They were special and not everybody saw them. And so,
Speaker 2: you know, it's only been probably i would say, in
Speaker 2: the last ten years, maybe fifteen, this whole topic has exploded,
Speaker 2: and before that you just you just didn't hear much
Speaker 2: about it, other than maybe in a magazine or you
Speaker 2: know whatever. Of course, the Patterson Gimlin film that was
Speaker 2: in sixty seven it opened up up talk about it,
Speaker 2: but we steel didn't, you know, talk openly about it.
Speaker 1: You mentioned that your grandmother taught you a lot of
Speaker 1: things regarding this topic. Do you remember any things that
Speaker 1: she taught you that really stand out? In your mind
Speaker 1: after all these years.
Speaker 2: Everything she taught me was important. One of the things
Speaker 2: that she said is they are our neighbors, and as
Speaker 2: our neighbors, we are to be respectful. And you know,
Speaker 2: she'd say, you know, sometimes you see your neighbors and
Speaker 2: sometimes you don't, and sometimes you'd talk to your neighbors
Speaker 2: and sometimes you don't. So she taught me respect, but
Speaker 2: she taught me respect of everything. Everything in the woods.
Speaker 2: I was never taught to fear anything, regardless of what
Speaker 2: it was. You know, from the time I was little,
Speaker 2: I saw things and did things, and I was never
Speaker 2: told I couldn't do those things or I couldn't say
Speaker 2: those things. I could say anything to her, and if
Speaker 2: I needed to talk about it, I get to ask
Speaker 2: her about it. So you know, that basis there was
Speaker 2: important because she always also said, they're like us in
Speaker 2: ways and they're not like us in ways, and so
Speaker 2: you know, that foundation of respect of them was laid
Speaker 2: very early in my life. So that was just that
Speaker 2: was how it was.
Speaker 1: After the interaction at age six, did you regularly have
Speaker 1: interactions after that or was there a period of time
Speaker 1: where maybe a few years and then you had something happen.
Speaker 2: Again, well, they were always around. Whether or not there
Speaker 2: was any kind of interaction. It just happened when it happened,
Speaker 2: and I didn't go out to find them. In other words,
Speaker 2: I didn't set out and say, Okay, I'm going to
Speaker 2: go out and find them, because I was taught that
Speaker 2: was disrespectful as well. But I was in the woods
Speaker 2: all the time, so if they were around, I may
Speaker 2: know that they were around, and I may not. It
Speaker 2: just it goes back to that there are neighbors, you know,
Speaker 2: and your neighbors. If you have neighbors and they're busy
Speaker 2: doing something, you're not going to go bother your neighbors.
Speaker 2: It's just, you know how I was taught. Now, through
Speaker 2: the years, I did see them from time to time.
Speaker 2: There was a period of time when I was raising
Speaker 2: my children and going through that part of my life,
Speaker 2: I would see them from time to time. We hiked
Speaker 2: a lot with the kids and camped a lot and
Speaker 2: did those kinds of things. Now, I never taught my
Speaker 2: children when they were young about them because there was
Speaker 2: no reason for me to do that, and so it
Speaker 2: just didn't happened. If one of them would have had
Speaker 2: an experience, then I would have taught them about them,
Speaker 2: but it was it wasn't necessary at that time for
Speaker 2: me to do that at all.
Speaker 1: A question I usually ask people that I talked to,
Speaker 1: what do you feel that the Bigfoot actually is?
Speaker 2: Well, they were here before we were, and they came
Speaker 2: here from someplace else, and so they are flesh and
Speaker 2: blood as sure as we are flesh and blood. But
Speaker 2: they also can do things. You know, people talk all
Speaker 2: the time about now you see them and now you don't.
Speaker 2: How did that happen? You know? So they have those abilities.
Speaker 2: I believe we have those abilities, but we walked away
Speaker 2: from those at some point. Many people still hold those abilities.
Speaker 2: I've seen elders do things that a lot of people
Speaker 2: say can't be done. One of the stories I tell
Speaker 2: is when I was a teenager, there was an in
Speaker 2: demand that lived in the town that I.
Speaker 1: Grew up in, Big so society would be right back
Speaker 1: after these messages.
Speaker 2: He never had a car and he lived way out
Speaker 2: in the country, so he always walked. He'd seem walking
Speaker 2: downtown and if he was going home, he would be
Speaker 2: walking down towards the end of town and go out
Speaker 2: in the country. Well, one day after school, some kids
Speaker 2: and I were dragged Maine, and he was down at
Speaker 2: the end and was turning to go towards his home,
Speaker 2: and I said to the kids, I said, I'm going
Speaker 2: to stop and pick him up. And they started, no, no,
Speaker 2: he's got medicine. You can't do that. No, no. And
Speaker 2: what that meant was that there were things he did
Speaker 2: that they didn't consider or something that they wanted to
Speaker 2: be a part of. And actually they were definitely afraid.
Speaker 2: But I said, okay. But I drove past him and
Speaker 2: went on the road out to his house. And that
Speaker 2: old road you had to drive in the middle of it.
Speaker 2: I mean, this was a long time ago, and it
Speaker 2: was several miles out to where he lived. I drove
Speaker 2: in the middle of the road all the way out there.
Speaker 2: No car passed me from behind, no car met me,
Speaker 2: and we drove all the way out. When we got
Speaker 2: to his house, he was walking up on the porch. Now,
Speaker 2: how did he do that? He remembered how to do
Speaker 2: those things. One of our grandmother of the International Council
Speaker 2: of Thirteen Indigenous Grandmothers, who are grandmothers from around the
Speaker 2: world who have made a difference, we are at a
Speaker 2: gathering and there was a very very bad storm coming
Speaker 2: and it was headed right towards us. And she walked
Speaker 2: out and she put her hands out and she said
Speaker 2: some things. We weren't close enough to hear her. But
Speaker 2: when she put her hands up, that cloud moved, and
Speaker 2: there were several of us saw that cloud move and
Speaker 2: change its direction. Now, how did she do that? She
Speaker 2: remembered the connection. So you know, people nowadays you hear
Speaker 2: of all kinds of things that people are doing that.
Speaker 2: So many have said, you know, you can't do those things,
Speaker 2: but you can do them if you remember what connection.
Speaker 1: So you actually you saw that individual have that connection
Speaker 1: with the cloud in person.
Speaker 2: Yes, I did. I wasn't the only one there either.
Speaker 1: Do you have Native American heritage?
Speaker 2: I have Cherokee blood? My grandmother told me from the
Speaker 2: time I was little enough to understand that I carried
Speaker 2: Cherokee blood, but I carry a lot of other blood
Speaker 2: as well. And what she told me was, if I
Speaker 2: dishonor in blood, then I've dishonored all the blood that
Speaker 2: I carried. I don't have a CDIB, so I'm not
Speaker 2: a registered tribal member. And I wasn't taught by her
Speaker 2: in the Cherokee way. I was taught by her own
Speaker 2: experiences of a photo. Several people have seen it. It's my grandmother.
Speaker 2: She couldn't remember exactly what year it was. She was
Speaker 2: giving me some photos, probably a couple of years before
Speaker 2: she died, and we were looking through them, and there
Speaker 2: was this one photo that she was all stretched out
Speaker 2: walking and it's the Bigfoot Walk and I think we
Speaker 2: figured it's somewhere early fifties. I don't know for sure,
Speaker 2: but I said, Grinn, what were you doing? And she said,
Speaker 2: I was doing the walk And that's what that picture
Speaker 2: is is of her demonstrating out of the Bigfoot Walk
Speaker 2: and she has this grin on her face. So and
Speaker 2: my grandfather, I think she said, took that photo. So
Speaker 2: it wasn't a photo I ever saw in my whole life.
Speaker 2: And I was always going through her photos and when
Speaker 2: some of us kids would get together, we'd get the
Speaker 2: picture box out and go through all the old photos.
Speaker 2: But I never saw it until that couple of years
Speaker 2: before she passed, when she was giving me some photos.
Speaker 2: So I don't know where she had it. I didn't
Speaker 2: ask her. I didn't think to ask her, you know,
Speaker 2: where she had had that.
Speaker 1: But so when you say that she's doing the bigfoot
Speaker 1: walk in the photo. Can you kind of describe what
Speaker 1: she was doing?
Speaker 2: Well, she's got that one arm stretch to the front,
Speaker 2: the others want back in her feet and a long
Speaker 2: way apart. You could definitely tell what it is when
Speaker 2: you look at it. So if that was in the
Speaker 2: early fifties, the Patterson Gimlin hadn't even been filmed yet,
Speaker 2: Jerry Cruz, that whole thing right, which was fifteen Yeah,
Speaker 2: hadn't happened yet, and yet she knew.
Speaker 1: That's fascinating. You mentioned something where it's almost like people
Speaker 1: forget their connections to things, and some people have still
Speaker 1: have those connections. And I've talked to a lot of
Speaker 1: people over the last five years, and I had some
Speaker 1: really interesting things happen in Oregon. But do you think
Speaker 1: there's there's kind of a theory that I have where
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's it's crazy or not, but
Speaker 1: being in close proximity or being around the same area
Speaker 1: that these big foot are could help people remember or
Speaker 1: unlock certain things I do. Do you know what I mean?
Speaker 1: Does it sound kind of weird or no?
Speaker 2: Not my life it's weird. It's interesting with them and
Speaker 2: you know, through the years, I've talked to a lot
Speaker 2: of Indigenous people from around the world, not just Native
Speaker 2: Americans here, but other elders as well, and a lot
Speaker 2: of them have talked about, you know, about this our
Speaker 2: law looking away from it. In the case of the
Speaker 2: thirteen Indigenous grandmothers, they did many things that you know,
Speaker 2: I was able to witness hundreds of people witness not
Speaker 2: just me that you know, you go, wow, that happened.
Speaker 2: That happen And it's just amazing that connecting back into
Speaker 2: those things. And it's as simple as shifting your paradigm,
Speaker 2: opening your mind and shift that paradigm, that belief system
Speaker 2: that you have, and then open your heart, and it's
Speaker 2: amazing what all comes to you. It's one of the
Speaker 2: easiest things in the world to having en counter. And
Speaker 2: you know, people tell me all the time, I've been
Speaker 2: trying for years, you know, and it's like, what are
Speaker 2: you doing, you know, what are you doing to try
Speaker 2: to have this encounter? And you know, they are, well,
Speaker 2: I'm going out in the woods and I'm looking, and
Speaker 2: I'm knocking on trees, and I'm doing food and I'm
Speaker 2: doing all this stuff. And if that's what you want
Speaker 2: and If that's the interaction that you want, that's fine.
Speaker 2: But if you want to know more, you know, and
Speaker 2: I don't know how many people through the years that
Speaker 2: I've talked with who then shifted their paradigm went at
Speaker 2: this a totally different way and had an encounter. Was
Speaker 2: been working with a couple of people, just helping them.
Speaker 2: I don't tell people what they have to do. We
Speaker 2: just talk and I listen to you know, what they're
Speaker 2: saying and how they're seeing it, and so they'll begin
Speaker 2: to grasp that. You know, this is as simple as
Speaker 2: going in anywhere, whether you're going into the woods or whatever,
Speaker 2: and you're being very respectful, You've opened that heart, you've
Speaker 2: shifted your paradigm, and you just beat go have fun.
Speaker 2: Don't go thinking I'm going to go out there and
Speaker 2: I'm going to see something. Go be in the woods
Speaker 2: and enjoy yourself and love it and become a part
Speaker 2: of that. And people all the time have those encounters.
Speaker 2: It's you know, I talked to people all the time
Speaker 2: who've had an encounter. They had been trying for years
Speaker 2: to have an encounter or to have anything, and it
Speaker 2: just wasn't happening for them. And when they changed their approach.
Speaker 2: Things began to happen. Maybe in the beginning all they
Speaker 2: heard were whoops, or maybe they heard what sounds like
Speaker 2: knocking on trees. Maybe they saw a structure that looked
Speaker 2: strange to them, like it couldn't have been naturally formed,
Speaker 2: or they saw footprints. All of these things are part
Speaker 2: of that beginning understanding for a lot of people. But
Speaker 2: you take it one step more. You're there, and I
Speaker 2: always tell people if you feel uncomfortable, if you feel
Speaker 2: like you're being watched, or you just have that feeling
Speaker 2: like maybe I shouldn't be here, that you start talking.
Speaker 2: Tell them who you are, and I do it out loud.
Speaker 2: You know, whether you see them or not, just start talking,
Speaker 2: tell them who you are, tell them why you're there.
Speaker 2: And talking to them like that, whether you see them
Speaker 2: or not, puts in your mind that this is a
Speaker 2: being that understands you, and they do understand you. And
Speaker 2: so now you're trying to get to know someone that
Speaker 2: you'd like to know, and it's respectful to introduce yourself
Speaker 2: and why are you there? And I also tell them
Speaker 2: if you can't get past your fear or your uneasiness
Speaker 2: at that point, it's very simple turn around and just leave.
Speaker 2: Don't push well, because that fear is going to block everything,
Speaker 2: or you're going to have an encounter that you feel
Speaker 2: is a fearful encounter. So it is that simple. And
Speaker 2: I've seen it happen so many times in my life
Speaker 2: in this bigfoot world of people, that those things do happen.
Speaker 1: That's very, very good advice. I've actually talked to more
Speaker 1: than a few people lately where they have done that verbally,
Speaker 1: out loud communication. And then an interesting thing that's common
Speaker 1: between all of them is that usually right after they'll
Speaker 1: say something, there'll be something that will happen in the
Speaker 1: physical world as a response. Yeah, is that something you've
Speaker 1: experienced as well?
Speaker 2: Yeah, And you know I tell people too, don't negate
Speaker 2: something that happens that you're not sure about. Don't just
Speaker 2: negate it and talk it away, because that's a very
Speaker 2: easy thing to talk it away. No I didn't hear that,
Speaker 2: or no I didn't see that, and just let it
Speaker 2: be what it was and just continue, you know, doing
Speaker 2: what you're doing. I know I've spoke at conferences over
Speaker 2: the last several years across the United States and into
Speaker 2: British Columbia and One of the things that I always
Speaker 2: tell people when i'm speaking. The first thing is you
Speaker 2: don't have to believe the thing I'm going to say.
Speaker 2: I'm not trying to prove anything to you. I'm going
Speaker 2: to share my experiences.
Speaker 1: Big for society who will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: The one thing that I do ask of you is
Speaker 2: don't just throw it out. If I say things that
Speaker 2: you think that there's no way it can be that way,
Speaker 2: don't throw it out. Just file it away somewhere and
Speaker 2: then if you have something happened, or maybe you have
Speaker 2: a friend that you trust has something happened, then you've
Speaker 2: got something to go back and look at. So it
Speaker 2: you know, we tend to want to well, I don't
Speaker 2: believe that, so you know, I'm not going to think
Speaker 2: about it anymore.
Speaker 1: That's really interesting. Do you feel that you're actively communicating
Speaker 1: with any Bigfoot in recent years?
Speaker 2: Oh? Yeah. In my one book, My Life with the
Speaker 2: Harry People, it chronicles several years of my being a
Speaker 2: part of their lives. And it's interesting because I've always
Speaker 2: known of what people call the paranormal aspect of them.
Speaker 2: I've always known that about them. That was just part
Speaker 2: of it. Part of my teaching, part of my understandings,
Speaker 2: and part of my experiences. So I don't have a
Speaker 2: problem with that part that a lot of my experience
Speaker 2: has been in the flesh and blood communication and interaction.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I'm sure you probably do know Rick Taylor.
Speaker 2: Do you know that name? The man that had the
Speaker 2: experience with seeing the family.
Speaker 1: I haven't never talked to him, but I have heard
Speaker 1: of his story, which is really incredible.
Speaker 2: I'm the Arla he was with exactly. So yeah, and
Speaker 2: I've had a lot of other people who have seen
Speaker 2: them and very well seeing them. That doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: I had anything to do with that, because I'm not
Speaker 2: in charge of who they show themselves to or not.
Speaker 2: They choose to do that, and I would never ask
Speaker 2: them to show themselves to anybody. I just would not
Speaker 2: do it. That would be disrespectful for me, and it was,
Speaker 2: you know, part of my teachings as well. They do
Speaker 2: as they choose, And I know I have people ask
Speaker 2: me all the time, well will you show me the bigfoot?
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, I can't. I'm not going to ask them
Speaker 2: to do anything. You know, I hear people say, well,
Speaker 2: all go out and call them up or whatever. Oh no,
Speaker 2: that's I'm not going to do that. They're going to
Speaker 2: choose what it is they want to do. Al Caller
Speaker 2: is what I call him, is the bigfoot in the
Speaker 2: Rick Taylor story that did the alcol He's interacted with
Speaker 2: a couple of other people through the years. It wasn't
Speaker 2: anything I expected at all, but that was his choice
Speaker 2: to do. Blue is one of the family. He's a
Speaker 2: young or an older juvenile male. Now, I had a
Speaker 2: friend here who was staying with me. My dog was
Speaker 2: really sick, and we were sitting outside and I heard
Speaker 2: the Harry kids is what I call him. They were
Speaker 2: moving around. I could you know, you could hear them,
Speaker 2: and then all of a sudden, we got this horrible odor.
Speaker 2: Oh my gosh, it was awful. And I looked off
Speaker 2: out towards where I heard the noise and stuff going on,
Speaker 2: and there was Blue, and we said, you know, that's awful.
Speaker 2: Stop it. Well, that odor went immediately away, and we'd
Speaker 2: go back to talking, and then he would do it again,
Speaker 2: and we were like, stop it, that's horrible, and then
Speaker 2: he'd stop, and then later on he would do it again.
Speaker 2: There's other people who have experienced Blue as well. I
Speaker 2: have a photo blue. There were five of us who
Speaker 2: were just hiking and we all saw him and one
Speaker 2: of the girls said, I'm going to take a picture,
Speaker 2: and he knew exactly what we were doing. He didn't
Speaker 2: get up and leave, He just sat there and watched us.
Speaker 2: He was there's on the ridge in that area. There
Speaker 2: are these oh places where it's kind of a drop
Speaker 2: off and you can get back on the down side
Speaker 2: of that and stick, you know, a big part of
Speaker 2: your body over that and still you know, dug down
Speaker 2: in a hurry, you know, if you want to. So
Speaker 2: you know, I'm not the only one that's seen them.
Speaker 2: Do I see them more than other people? Well? Yes,
Speaker 2: but like I said, I don't go looking for them either.
Speaker 2: If they're there, they are, and if they're not, well,
Speaker 2: they aren't.
Speaker 1: When you are talking to them verbally, do they ever
Speaker 1: talk back to you in a way that you can hear?
Speaker 2: I actually have audio. I have one audio that was
Speaker 2: taken a long time. There was a male, young male
Speaker 2: that was around and he was like a bulldozer when
Speaker 2: he would come through the woods. He didn't try to
Speaker 2: be quiet at all. And so once July it was hot,
Speaker 2: I went off hiking and got back in the woods
Speaker 2: and setting there and I hard and comming, and I thought,
Speaker 2: I'm just going to ask him who he is, so
Speaker 2: out loud, I said, who are you? What's your name?
Speaker 2: And he said through telepathy through Justina, and I said
Speaker 2: it again and he said it again, Rugsna. Well, I
Speaker 2: didn't want to forget that, so I put it on
Speaker 2: my phone. And in October of the same year, I
Speaker 2: had been recording and I kicked back in my recliner
Speaker 2: and got my coffee and I'm listened to my recorder
Speaker 2: and I hear this voice say Ruegesna, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I know that tame, I know that name. And I
Speaker 2: listened to the video. I mean, it's on Facebook that
Speaker 2: a girlfriend of mine did a video or put it
Speaker 2: all together for me with that audio and art where
Speaker 2: they're talking and he says Regustina, and then after a
Speaker 2: bit he says, approach slowly and if you're thinking about Regustina,
Speaker 2: he never went anywhere quietly or slowly, And then there
Speaker 2: are other things on it, and then at the end
Speaker 2: of it he says, we're going and that's the end
Speaker 2: of it. Now, prior to Regustina telling me his name.
Speaker 2: I was in the woods, spending the night in my
Speaker 2: tent and I am laying there and I hear walking
Speaker 2: up and I just agreet. I'm if I'm out wherever
Speaker 2: I'm at in any part of the United States or
Speaker 2: Canada or wherever, I always say hi guys, And so
Speaker 2: I heard him and I just said.
Speaker 4: Hi, guys, and he did the funniest hell that sounded
Speaker 4: like he was saying hello.
Speaker 2: And I laughed at him. And there was someone who
Speaker 2: heard that, and they asked me, could they do that
Speaker 2: spectral analysis of it? And I said, I don't care
Speaker 2: if you want to. And so it came back within
Speaker 2: that range that people have assigned to Bigfoot on the analysis.
Speaker 2: You know, the spectral analysis really didn't matter to me.
Speaker 2: I knew who did it, so, but it was just
Speaker 2: interesting to see that and where that was. You know.
Speaker 2: I've got other videos too and audios of them playing
Speaker 2: with the coyotes, and you can hear them in the mix,
Speaker 2: and one of them, Indigo, who is a young male
Speaker 2: now who I've interacted with the most. The coyotes are
Speaker 2: going crazy, and then you can hear them mixed in
Speaker 2: a little bit, and then you hear this and silence.
Speaker 2: So you know, through the years I audioed a lot.
Speaker 2: I rarely do that anymore. I just don't. But it's
Speaker 2: a physical part of my life. But more than that,
Speaker 2: because that paranormal for me is normal. It's not, you know,
Speaker 2: just something that people say that this is outside the normal.
Speaker 2: For me, it's normal.
Speaker 1: That's absolutely fascinating. I would say for most people that
Speaker 1: are going out into the field and trying to have
Speaker 1: some sort of interaction, their goal is probably to be
Speaker 1: able to prove that bigfoot is a real creature. It
Speaker 1: sounds like this is not your probably goal with this
Speaker 1: at all. What would you say your goal is through
Speaker 1: all this interaction that you have with bigfoot?
Speaker 2: Why I came into this in twenty ten. I was
Speaker 2: introduced to the world of bigfoot research through some people
Speaker 2: that I had met. I thought they were teasing me
Speaker 2: when they said, oh, yeah, there are people out there
Speaker 2: research and try to prove them and I'm like, why
Speaker 2: are they doing that? And you know, it was still like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you guys are you guys are teasing me. There's no
Speaker 2: pigs but research world. Well, I found out very quickly
Speaker 2: that there was, and I had met someone they had
Speaker 2: a podcast. They asked me, would you come on the
Speaker 2: podcast and talk. Well, all I knew to do was
Speaker 2: to share my experiences, to tell the truth. And for
Speaker 2: the most part at that time, that didn't go over
Speaker 2: very well, but that was okay, you know. So I
Speaker 2: came into this to help people, to help those who
Speaker 2: had an encounter that they didn't understand, that they thought
Speaker 2: was something evil or whatever. I also gave a lot
Speaker 2: of people a safe space to talk and to share.
Speaker 2: It became known that, you know, I could be trusted,
Speaker 2: you could come and talk to me about anything, and
Speaker 2: I wouldn't, you know, tell anybody. And I'd never made
Speaker 2: fun of anybody, no matter what their experiences were. And
Speaker 2: so I just I wanted to help people understand that
Speaker 2: these are not the evil beings that so many people
Speaker 2: paint them as. And so all I knew to do
Speaker 2: was to share my experiences, and I shared the paranormal
Speaker 2: right along with their anything else. And I actually attained
Speaker 2: the title of the Immaculate Mother of who so very
Speaker 2: early on me was funny. I mean, it didn't bother me.
Speaker 2: And I'm not disrespectful to anyone, no matter what they
Speaker 2: say to me or about me or you know anything else.
Speaker 2: It's purely their perception of who they think I am.
Speaker 2: So through the years, you know, I dealt with a
Speaker 2: lot of that.
Speaker 1: Big for society will be right back after these messages, it.
Speaker 2: Didn't stop me from talking, It didn't stop me from sharing,
Speaker 2: and you know, I still haven't stopped I guess so.
Speaker 2: But I wanted, I really wanted to help people to
Speaker 2: get past their fear and to understand this on a
Speaker 2: totally different level.
Speaker 1: What was it that people were experiencing that they thought
Speaker 1: that these that these bigfoot were something evil.
Speaker 2: Well, okay, I have another story that I use as illustration.
Speaker 2: I was at a camp out down into Commishy mountains
Speaker 2: and there were people there from a lot of different places.
Speaker 2: There was a young man who had just gotten out
Speaker 2: of the military, actually, and he grew up in Washington State,
Speaker 2: but hadn't you know, been there in quite a while.
Speaker 2: And we were talking during the day and he told
Speaker 2: me he didn't know what they were, and he was
Speaker 2: a little afraid, you know, of them, because he didn't know,
Speaker 2: you know, what they were. And I talked to him,
Speaker 2: and you know, but he still had that huge fear.
Speaker 2: Yet he wanted to know too, you know, he wanted
Speaker 2: to have an encounter. Well. That night, we were sitting
Speaker 2: around the fire is about midnight, and as I often do,
Speaker 2: I got up from the fire and went to go walking.
Speaker 2: And when I got up and walked over to the
Speaker 2: little about a one lane road back into the mountains,
Speaker 2: he said, Miss Harlae, can I go with you? And
Speaker 2: I said, sure, come on. Well, we're walking down the road,
Speaker 2: you know, and we're talking and then we hear heavy
Speaker 2: bipedal footsteps and they're coming towards us. Now, you know,
Speaker 2: the sides of the road are cedars and pines, and
Speaker 2: so it's really thick to try to see in anywhere.
Speaker 2: And we're walking in the dark too, because I don't
Speaker 2: normally carry a flashlight if i'm especially if I'm on
Speaker 2: a road that I'm not familiar with, I usually stay
Speaker 2: on the road and don't ventch your off. But we
Speaker 2: heard the heavy bipedal footsteps coming towards us, and they
Speaker 2: were getting closer and closer, and they got up parallel
Speaker 2: to us inside the brush and stopped and he grabbed
Speaker 2: my arm and he said, are you afraid? And I said, no,
Speaker 2: I'm not afraid. I said, are you afraid? And he
Speaker 2: grabbed me with his other arm and literally pulled me
Speaker 2: to him and said, yes, I don't know what he's
Speaker 2: going to do to me. And so I tried to
Speaker 2: talk to him and getting calmed down, but I couldn't,
Speaker 2: so I said, let's just go back to the fire.
Speaker 2: So we walked back to the fire. Now, if you
Speaker 2: took a report on that, my report would have been
Speaker 2: got up from the fire, walked down the road, heard
Speaker 2: heavy bipedal footsteps coming towards us as they stopped right
Speaker 2: inside the tree line and brushed His would have been
Speaker 2: he got up from the fire, went walking down the road,
Speaker 2: and then you know, he was afraid. He was afraid
Speaker 2: it was going to hurt him. He didn't know what
Speaker 2: it was going to do to him. So you've got
Speaker 2: two totally different reports on this the very same encounter.
Speaker 2: But he had already said during the day he was
Speaker 2: afraid of them because he didn't know what they were
Speaker 2: or what they would do. So that was the encounter
Speaker 2: he had because he didn't know their nature and he
Speaker 2: carried that fear. And that's what happens when people have
Speaker 2: a lot of these encounters that they think are bad.
Speaker 2: It's because you misunderstand their nature. They are big, they
Speaker 2: are hairy, and they are loud, and you can literally
Speaker 2: feel their energy from them if they're very close to you.
Speaker 1: What does that mean when you say you can literally
Speaker 1: feel their energy from them?
Speaker 2: You can feel it's Sometimes it's just a tingle. Sometimes
Speaker 2: it's like shields, you know, or goose bumps or whatever.
Speaker 2: You know. People call it. That's not a bad thing,
Speaker 2: that's just energy. But people don't understand it, and so
Speaker 2: they automatically think, well, that's a bad thing. I shouldn't
Speaker 2: be feeling like this, I shouldn't be here, and that's
Speaker 2: not usually the case.
Speaker 1: Have you ever experienced along in that same category where
Speaker 1: a person was unable to move for a certain period
Speaker 1: of time.
Speaker 2: Oh, I've seen that. Yeah, I've seen that. I've seen
Speaker 2: people who they call it zapping or sizzling, you know,
Speaker 2: different terms, but they feel that that's just that's an
Speaker 2: energy thing too as well. Now, and if you don't
Speaker 2: understand it, you will freeze yourself. Now, I'm not going
Speaker 2: to tell you that they can't do that too, because
Speaker 2: I know they can. But you can scare yourself enough
Speaker 2: to where you can't move. We were at a camp
Speaker 2: out in the Willow Creek area where the Patterson Gimlin
Speaker 2: was filmed. We were thirty miles from the nearest town
Speaker 2: that was just a little town with a ranger station
Speaker 2: and I think one little station that had some things
Speaker 2: foods and stuff in it. And one of the girls
Speaker 2: had she always put her tent out of way, which
Speaker 2: is what I usually do, wait for everybody else, and
Speaker 2: they had been around her tent a lot, and she
Speaker 2: had got out and she was just literally frozen, and
Speaker 2: she started calling Tom for help, and of course he
Speaker 2: got up and went out there, and there was a bear.
Speaker 2: I believe it was a bear very close. And so
Speaker 2: I have seen them literally freeze people like that for protection,
Speaker 2: and that's really hard for a lot of people, you know,
Speaker 2: to grasp. I've had that. They've never frozen me like that,
Speaker 2: but they have let me know that there was something
Speaker 2: in the area. Now, I'm not quiet in the woods.
Speaker 2: I'm not going to scare any of the big foot
Speaker 2: people off by me talking or singing or whatever. But
Speaker 2: if they're a bear around or anything else, they're going
Speaker 2: to hear me long before I ever get very close
Speaker 2: to them. So I don't really fear anything like that.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm careful and I'm aware of what's going
Speaker 2: on around me. I'm responsible for myself, but I know
Speaker 2: that they do watch out after me. And I've talked
Speaker 2: to hundreds of people that'll tell you the same thing.
Speaker 1: That's very interesting to know that that background. For sure.
Speaker 1: Have they ever communicated to you to ask you to
Speaker 1: come to a certain area or location or to do
Speaker 1: a certain thing.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, now, they will let me know that they're
Speaker 2: going to be around. And it's funny because years ago,
Speaker 2: years ago, I was sleeping in my tent and they
Speaker 2: like for me to sleep in my tent. I mean
Speaker 2: a lot of stuff happens when I'm in my tent
Speaker 2: and has over the years. And one night I'd been
Speaker 2: told that, you know, we want you to come out
Speaker 2: to the tent. And it doesn't mean I'm going to
Speaker 2: walk out there and I'm gonna shake their hand and
Speaker 2: sit down and talk with them. It's not like that
Speaker 2: at all. It's just that I know they're there and
Speaker 2: they know I'm there. Well, something happened and I didn't
Speaker 2: get to go sleep in my tent because I had
Speaker 2: to walk quite a ways to get to my tent,
Speaker 2: and the next morning, on my porch was this asterisk symbol.
Speaker 2: I had one cedar pole, and then I had another
Speaker 2: that was a tree that I had cut the branches off,
Speaker 2: leaving enough out where I could prop it up and
Speaker 2: hang things on it. And then there was I think
Speaker 2: a walking staff that I had that were not together
Speaker 2: at all and certainly weren't on my porch, but they
Speaker 2: put that into an asterisk, which is it's a connection symbol.
Speaker 2: And they were telling me, basically, you were out there
Speaker 2: last night. And so when I finally did go, I
Speaker 2: walked back to the tent that day and they had
Speaker 2: there was an old blue tarp under my tent. They
Speaker 2: had pulled a strand of that tarp out, a long strand,
Speaker 2: and they had put an X, which they have used
Speaker 2: that with me for friendship, thank you family. That type
Speaker 2: of thing and how they use it depends on context
Speaker 2: of the situation. But they had decorated that X with
Speaker 2: that long piece of tarp and they had wove it
Speaker 2: all around that AX, and it was so pretty. I
Speaker 2: just started laughing when I saw it. And so that
Speaker 2: night I did go out and spend the night in
Speaker 2: the tent, and a lot of times it's no more
Speaker 2: than just hearing them out there running around or doing things.
Speaker 2: I have had them come up to the tent and
Speaker 2: touch me. I had a young one not long ago
Speaker 2: come up. I sleep on a cot in my tent,
Speaker 2: and I sleep with it open. It opens on four sides,
Speaker 2: and that's how asleep. And my feet were by the door,
Speaker 2: and I felt this finger push or touch the tip
Speaker 2: of my big toe and then put pressure on it.
Speaker 2: And I was just laying there with my eyes closed,
Speaker 2: just being quiet. And when I felt it, I opened
Speaker 2: my eyes and I looked up and all I could
Speaker 2: see was two shadowy figures that had figured out that
Speaker 2: I was awake, and they turned around and scooed it off.
Speaker 2: So you know, it's not like I'm going down there
Speaker 2: and we're all setting in a circle or whatever. They're
Speaker 2: doing whatever it is they do, and I'm staying in
Speaker 2: my tent in the woods, which I absolutely love and
Speaker 2: do a big part of the year.
Speaker 1: Wow, And no fear at all during that time. It
Speaker 1: sounds like no.
Speaker 2: Well, I've never had a fear of them. I was
Speaker 2: never taught to be afraid of them. I ought to
Speaker 2: be respectful. I don't have fear of anything. I've seen
Speaker 2: dog men before, and I wasn't afraid. So I just
Speaker 2: don't have that fear. And you know, my grandmother, I
Speaker 2: wasn't taught to fear anything. She always told me, you know,
Speaker 2: talk to something that you don't know what it is,
Speaker 2: find out what it is, you know. But I was
Speaker 2: that little girl who was in her bed at night
Speaker 2: and she heard something under her bed. Well, she didn't
Speaker 2: cover her head up. She leaned over her bed and
Speaker 2: looked under her bed to see what was making the noise.
Speaker 2: So I just I didn't have fear, you know. And
Speaker 2: I've told people for years, if you have a problem
Speaker 2: and you're afraid, you know, I don't have a problem
Speaker 2: with going and being there and seeing, you know, what's
Speaker 2: going on, because I just I don't have a fear.
Speaker 2: I'd love to go to Skinwalker Ranch.
Speaker 1: Big for Society will be right back after these messages.
Speaker 2: That'd be really awesome. But I've seen a lot of
Speaker 2: things too, so you know, it's just one of those
Speaker 2: things I'd like to go there.
Speaker 1: It's such a such a really cool way to look
Speaker 1: at things that I really appreciate how you're laying everything out.
Speaker 1: Let's say there's a listener and They're like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: I kind of want to just go to an area
Speaker 1: and kind of try this this out, maybe a little
Speaker 1: differently than I've done before, where I'm knocking on trees
Speaker 1: and making howls and stuff, and it sounds kind of
Speaker 1: similar to how I've talked to Tom Cantrell about things
Speaker 1: before too. If you were to break it down very
Speaker 1: simply of what how what a person would do to
Speaker 1: try to to put themselves into a situation where they
Speaker 1: can connect with them Is that something that you've ever
Speaker 1: tried to do where you break it down very simply.
Speaker 2: Oh, I've worked with people for years helping them get
Speaker 2: past their fear, and I've been working with one particular
Speaker 2: person now for about a month. They are past that
Speaker 2: knocking and hooping and all of that. They want more.
Speaker 2: They don't want to stop there. They want more, and
Speaker 2: so you know, I would tell them go to an area.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to look up on the
Speaker 2: web and find out where all of the sidings are
Speaker 2: or whatever, do that. But the first thing you need
Speaker 2: to do is go to these woods. Pick your woods
Speaker 2: you're going to go to it, Go and just walk
Speaker 2: through the woods, get familiar with where you're at note things.
Speaker 2: I mean, if you want to take pictures of interesting
Speaker 2: things in the wood, as far as something that might
Speaker 2: look like a structure or something like that, do it,
Speaker 2: you know, document that and then just be open to
Speaker 2: whatever be in a respectful way and just go with
Speaker 2: your heart open and let happen what happened. But the
Speaker 2: number one thing is just go and enjoy being there
Speaker 2: and then go back again. Know your woods that way.
Speaker 2: You know, when things are different, maybe you just have
Speaker 2: a feeling, well, this doesn't feel like it did the
Speaker 2: other day, or you see something you took a picture
Speaker 2: of and you go, whoa, wait a minute, that's changed
Speaker 2: and you look at it. But always when you're out,
Speaker 2: just tell them you know, hello, I say hi guys,
Speaker 2: you know, have a conversation with them. People ask me
Speaker 2: do I have to do it through mind speaker to
Speaker 2: let them know. Usually when I'm talking to them, I
Speaker 2: talk out loud, and but you do what makes you comfortable.
Speaker 2: But just talk to them, tell them who you are,
Speaker 2: why you're there, and just like you would anybody that
Speaker 2: you wanted, that you wanted to meet or you wanted
Speaker 2: to get to know better, and just open up your
Speaker 2: heart and shift your paradigm. And this person that I've
Speaker 2: been working with over this last little bit, they had
Speaker 2: go out like I don't know, three or four times,
Speaker 2: but now they're already having things and have had a visual.
Speaker 2: So them changing up what they were doing gave them
Speaker 2: what they were asking for. They wanted to know more.
Speaker 2: They didn't just want to hear a knock or see
Speaker 2: a footprint or a hoop or whatever. And I mean,
Speaker 2: all those things are kind of fun when you hear
Speaker 2: because I still like to hear them whoop and whatever.
Speaker 2: But it depends on what you want, you know, and
Speaker 2: if you're willing to just go and let it.
Speaker 1: Happen, I'd say that is great advice. In thank you
Speaker 1: for coming on the show tonight and for sharing some
Speaker 1: things from your heart about what you've experienced through your
Speaker 1: life so far. Do you have any final closing thoughts? Slash?
Speaker 1: How are ways that people can keep up to date
Speaker 1: with what you're doing currently when it comes to Bigfoot.
Speaker 2: I have a YouTube channel. Now you're going to see
Speaker 2: a little bit of everything on that YouTube channel. I
Speaker 2: started it in twenty fifteen and then I had a
Speaker 2: big change in my life for several years, but I've
Speaker 2: gone back and I am posting things on it. It's
Speaker 2: Arla Williams, is what my YouTube channel is. I am
Speaker 2: on Facebook. If you're looking for me on Facebook, it'll
Speaker 2: be Arla Calliot Kalette, so you'll see Arla Collette. And
Speaker 2: if you're going to send me a friend request, send
Speaker 2: me a message too, because I get all kinds of
Speaker 2: friend requests that I can't see their page, And unless
Speaker 2: I know somebody's going to friend me, or I have
Speaker 2: a friend that says yes, this person is you know, okay,
Speaker 2: then I'm probably not going to friend you. If I
Speaker 2: can see your page and you know, see what you're about,
Speaker 2: then then I don't have a problem with doing that.
Speaker 2: And it doesn't matter to me what you believe they
Speaker 2: are or your political affiliation for anything else. That's not
Speaker 2: my criteria for letting people on my Facebook page. You
Speaker 2: can search my name Arle Williams or Arlaclet on YouTube.
Speaker 2: I've done tons of podcasts. I actually have a podcast
Speaker 2: I do now with Michael Harrold and it is on
Speaker 2: through the Poor Convene Show, which is a group on Facebook.
Speaker 2: It's a public group, so anybody can come there, but
Speaker 2: then we do them live every other Thursday and then
Speaker 2: they go on Michael Harold's YouTube channel, So I'm out
Speaker 2: there if you want to listen you know too more
Speaker 2: and probably hear a whole lot more of the paranormal
Speaker 2: aspect of you know what goes on in my life
Speaker 2: too as well.
Speaker 1: Fantastic. We will definitely make sure that all that is
Speaker 1: linked in the show note description. And Arley, just thank
Speaker 1: you again for coming on the show. It has been
Speaker 1: a real pleasure chatting with you tonight.
Speaker 2: Well, thank you for asking me. And I do have
Speaker 2: two books. I have My Life with a Hairy People
Speaker 2: and Respecting the Water that's a children's book with a bigfoot.
Speaker 2: Of course you can get them on Amazon or you
Speaker 2: can get them for me, and thank you so much
Speaker 2: for asking me. I really appreciate that.
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Speaker 3: Her and I can get on here. We can tell
Speaker 3: our stories. Maybe there's somebody else out there listening.
Speaker 2: That's too afraid to tell their story. Maybe this will.
Speaker 3: Give them the courage to come out. And now it
Speaker 3: feels so bad about it. Who cares what anybody's thinks.
Speaker 3: I know what I saw, I know what's out there.
Speaker 3: That's all I care about.
Speaker 2: Please let people know, Please let them know. If you
Speaker 2: ever see one of the faith
Speaker 3: You need you tell, because if you don't, then shame
Speaker 3: on you, you have, shame on you,