Speaker 1: Okay, we are alive. Hi does William Ramsey. Welcome to
Speaker 1: William Ramsey Investigates. On today's show, I have a very
Speaker 1: special guest. I've talked to him before. His name is
Speaker 1: Walter Boseley, last name is bos l e Y, and
Speaker 1: we've done a number of shows on the Walter Boseley Channel,
Speaker 1: the YouTube channel. We covered some of his books, The
Speaker 1: Mystery of Ingersoll, Lockwood, The Empire of the Wheel, an
Speaker 1: investigation of called Espionage. I've been on his show talking
Speaker 1: about the West Memphis Three, Scarlett Blake, who's a tranny,
Speaker 1: Alista Crowley, the Doors. But today we're going to talk
Speaker 1: about a book he recently published. And if you're watching
Speaker 1: this on Rumble or Rockfin or X, you'll see the cover.
Speaker 1: It's the second and a two part two book compendium
Speaker 1: called Esoteric Napoleon. So this is Esoteric Napoleon two and
Speaker 1: there's an obviously an Esoteric Napoleon one. I have not
Speaker 1: read through the books, but I'm very familiar with the
Speaker 1: kind of the Napoleonic history, and we were talking a
Speaker 1: little bit on the pre show things that I've been covering,
Speaker 1: which are the Knights of Malta and Napoleon kicked them
Speaker 1: out of Malta in seventeen ninety eight, and then Walter
Speaker 1: was telling me hired them back, which I was not
Speaker 1: aware of. But it is an interesting part of kind
Speaker 1: of Western civilization. And there's a lot about Napoleon that
Speaker 1: reaches our shores here in the US that Walter can
Speaker 1: talk more about. So Walter was the show.
Speaker 2: It's good to be back, William.
Speaker 1: Yeah, excellent. So for people who haven't heard our earlier shows,
Speaker 1: maybe you can do a little overview of your writing
Speaker 1: and your web your YouTube channel, your website, what you've
Speaker 1: been up to, and then what led to the publication
Speaker 1: of Esoteric Napoleon.
Speaker 2: Sure, well, I was a for a long time. I
Speaker 2: was a you know, I wrote fiction and aspiring to
Speaker 2: be published writer, wrote screenplays, and I wrote my first
Speaker 2: nonfiction book in two thousand seven. That's Latitude thirty three
Speaker 2: Key to the Kingdom, which was my investigation into strange engineering.
Speaker 2: I don't want to use overuse the word esoteric, but metaphysical.
Speaker 2: What have you engineering of Disneyland, the original park in California?
Speaker 2: And you know, one thing leads to another, and the
Speaker 2: next three books I write focus on this cold case
Speaker 2: which at the time I learned about it was almost
Speaker 2: one hundred years It was like ninety six ninety seven
Speaker 2: years prior. It happened in Samernandino in nineteen fifteen, and
Speaker 2: that was wow. That kicked off a seven year period
Speaker 2: of my life. That was the Empire of the Wheel trilogy.
Speaker 2: And after that I wanted to break from such dark
Speaker 2: material as was in that Empire of the Whale series, and
Speaker 2: so I wrote my first book in what I call
Speaker 2: the Secret Mission series, which is where I look at
Speaker 2: historical figures, explorers in the case of Napoleon, of course,
Speaker 2: a military leader and you know, national leader, and these
Speaker 2: are historical figures who I found evidence to argue that
Speaker 2: they had kind of as the title of the series implies,
Speaker 2: a secret mission. For instance, the first book was Abou
Speaker 2: Juan Cabrio, and I lay out in there how his
Speaker 2: whole expedition Expiration of California, had an ulterior motive that
Speaker 2: had to do with the templars and lost treasure and
Speaker 2: things like that. And then the second book was The
Speaker 2: Lost Expedition of Sir Richard Francis Burton. That's Secret Missions two,
Speaker 2: and in that I go into this curious missing four
Speaker 2: and a half month period of his life that he
Speaker 2: did not write about. Now, Richard Francis Burton wrote profusely
Speaker 2: about everything he did. I mean, some of the most
Speaker 2: boring stuff you'll ever read are the things he wrote
Speaker 2: about his journeys and expeditions, except for this four month
Speaker 2: period that he was in the wilderness the jungles of
Speaker 2: South America, and to this day we don't know what
Speaker 2: he did. So you know my hypothesis that he was
Speaker 2: secretly exploring lost cities and other megalithic mysteries and ancient
Speaker 2: mysteries that are very popular with us today. Well, from there,
Speaker 2: I did a book on Ambrose Bierce, who famously disappeared
Speaker 2: in nineteen thirteen after declaring more than once in print
Speaker 2: that he wanted to disappear off into South America. To
Speaker 2: this day, we don't know what happened to Ambrose Biers.
Speaker 2: And in that book I explore what his secret mission
Speaker 2: may have been, because there's evidence that he was a
Speaker 2: Secret Service agent from the end of the Civil War
Speaker 2: until he disappeared. So in each of my books, and
Speaker 2: particularly in each of the Secret Missions books, somewhere along
Speaker 2: the way and the research I turn up something or
Speaker 2: stumble upon something that has led to the next book.
Speaker 2: While in the case of Napoleon Bonaparte, I had for
Speaker 2: several years been curious about this legend that he had
Speaker 2: spent a night in the King's chamber of the Great Pyramid,
Speaker 2: and when he emerged from the pyramid, he was just
Speaker 2: pale and just why, just nervous and freaked out. And
Speaker 2: when he was asked, hey, you know what happened in there,
Speaker 2: he said, you wouldn't believe me if I told you.
Speaker 2: And I've always found this story intriguing. But I didn't
Speaker 2: know much about Napoleon Bonaparte other than that and what
Speaker 2: we're taught in movies in school. Well, I came across
Speaker 2: a book in a used bookstore, Bonaparte in Egypt, by
Speaker 2: Christopher Harold. I think it was written in the thirties
Speaker 2: or forties, and I thought, well, you know, this is
Speaker 2: interesting because I'm also interested in the Louisiana purchase. Right,
Speaker 2: you know, it's interesting that you know he owned this
Speaker 2: and he sells it to the United States, practically gives
Speaker 2: it to us. Well, when I'm reading the book Bonaparte
Speaker 2: in Egypt, I'm learning all sorts of things about this man.
Speaker 2: That were never taught that. He was fascinated with science
Speaker 2: and ancient history and technology and things like that. He
Speaker 2: was really into the things that you know, I'm into
Speaker 2: and a lot of us are into. And he was
Speaker 2: criticized by some of his military officers because when he
Speaker 2: went on his Egyptian expedition, he took what they call
Speaker 2: these savants. These were the guys who were the scientific
Speaker 2: genius of their day, engineering, ancient history, languages, linguistics, alchemy,
Speaker 2: and several of them were freemasons, okay, and he took
Speaker 2: a bunch of them and gave them, you know, they
Speaker 2: got upper class status on the ships heading down there,
Speaker 2: and they were to be treated with respect. And this
Speaker 2: wasn't just an expedition of military conquest, okay, this was
Speaker 2: you know, he was as interested in the ancient history
Speaker 2: of Egypt as he was anything. And he wanted to
Speaker 2: block the British access to India if he could, because
Speaker 2: he wanted to go on to India. So he was
Speaker 2: fascinated with ancient history and lost civilizations and you know,
Speaker 2: esoteric thought and metaphysical technologies and all this stuff that
Speaker 2: we're into today. And the more I read about him,
Speaker 2: the more I got a completely different view than what
Speaker 2: we're taught. He wasn't just this brooding megalomaniac that was
Speaker 2: all about his power and his ego. I learned that
Speaker 2: that reputation is the product of, you know, by now
Speaker 2: over two hundred years of quite frankly British propaganda and nonsense.
Speaker 2: But in this I also learned that in eighteen oh two,
Speaker 2: when France got the Louisiana territory back, and I knew
Speaker 2: this when I was doing the first book. I learned
Speaker 2: it when I was doing the first book, Napoleon ordered
Speaker 2: his Navy secretary decree to put together a special team
Speaker 2: and under strictest secrecy, to send them to explore the
Speaker 2: Louisiana territory. Okay, and so they had about a year
Speaker 2: before we know that the sale was made to the
Speaker 2: United States, for this team to be secretly exploring looking
Speaker 2: for something. But we never we never see any I've
Speaker 2: not found any documentation yet, and I've been looking that
Speaker 2: it happened, or what they found, what the result was
Speaker 2: if they found, you know, whatever it was they were
Speaker 2: looking for. So I was fascinated about this. And when
Speaker 2: you know anything about Thomas Jefferson at the time, he
Speaker 2: had the largest personal library in what was the United
Speaker 2: States back then, Okay, And he was a guy who
Speaker 2: was fascinated with ancient history and you know, architecture and
Speaker 2: all these mysteries, and also India. He was John Adams
Speaker 2: had turned him on to India. And we're talking about
Speaker 2: Thomas Jefferson here. So it was interesting that he makes
Speaker 2: this deal with Thomas Jefferson, who is a man who
Speaker 2: shares a lot of the same interests that Napoleon Bonaparte,
Speaker 2: you know, was enthused about. And so this this really
Speaker 2: fascinated me. And when you throw in that Meriwether Lewis
Speaker 2: of the Lewis and Clark expedition, right, he gets he's
Speaker 2: murdered within three years after his expedition through the Louisiana
Speaker 2: territory occurs. And so the whole thing, all of this
Speaker 2: is in the mix Napoleon and what I learned about
Speaker 2: him and his interests, the secret expedition that he orders
Speaker 2: to explore the Louisiana territory, and then this this whole
Speaker 2: thing about Meriwether Lewis being murdered, and it just I
Speaker 2: had to write this book, this this second volume. You know,
Speaker 2: about all of this so.
Speaker 1: It's pretty amazing. So it's almost like an intercontinental story.
Speaker 1: So if he bought the Louisiana purchase was sold in
Speaker 1: eighteen oh two, Lewis and Clark is eighteen oh four, right,
Speaker 1: so these are like uh bates or something like that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, they I think they started in late eighteen
Speaker 2: oh three with all the hiring of the people, but
Speaker 2: it was mostly eighteen o fourth through eighteen oh six
Speaker 2: was the Lewis and Clark expedition.
Speaker 1: Just this huge swath of land purchased.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it doubled it literally, maybe even a little more
Speaker 2: than doubled the size of the United States. And Jefferson
Speaker 2: he made the purchase on executive order, without authority or
Speaker 2: permission from the Congress. And when they found out, they
Speaker 2: were livid, you know, until it was explained to them. Ay,
Speaker 2: and the War of eighteen twelve, if it wasn't fully explained,
Speaker 2: that fully got them on board, because you know, by
Speaker 2: Napoleon selling us this, he effectively prevented the British from
Speaker 2: controlling the Mississippi and being able to squeeze us from
Speaker 2: the seaboard to the Ate.
Speaker 1: Right, there's the famous Battle of Andrew Jackson eighteen twelve
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 2: And yeah, the Battle of New Orleans, which was actually
Speaker 2: fought after the war at officially they just didn't know, I.
Speaker 1: Didn't know, but it was a famous kind of stoppage. Yeah.
Speaker 2: So yes, yeah, it's still they were still even the
Speaker 2: British navy guys didn't know that it was over, and
Speaker 2: they wanted to They wanted to get up that river.
Speaker 1: Yeah. No, it's incredible. So I mean it was sold.
Speaker 1: I mean that was to the purpose of Napoleon selling
Speaker 1: it was to gain coinage for his wars or whatever,
Speaker 1: just to pay off debts.
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, and and and also to kind of flip
Speaker 2: the bird to the British to make it harder for them,
Speaker 2: you know when you know, because he knew they were
Speaker 2: gonna they were still you know, miffed at us for
Speaker 2: embarrassing their glorious empire with our revolution. The fact that
Speaker 2: we we you know, really just stubbornly stuck it out.
Speaker 2: You know, they burnt down Washington in eighteen twelve. So
Speaker 2: the White House, the the you know marks the charm
Speaker 2: one from it being burnt down a few walks. And
Speaker 2: this is part of the fact that twice they tried
Speaker 2: to subdue us twice. They failed. This is a great
Speaker 2: reason why they're animus against Napoleon, fired up even more
Speaker 2: because we had embarrassed them really on the international stage,
Speaker 2: you know, in front of their peers, and now here
Speaker 2: was Napoleon leading France, and there was nothing he couldn't
Speaker 2: acomplish except building a good navy. That that was the
Speaker 2: thing he could never do, was get a really great navy.
Speaker 2: You know, if he had been able to, I would
Speaker 2: say that the British would have lost. But but yeah,
Speaker 2: they they were just so so fanatically hateful of him,
Speaker 2: and they stirred up the their European peers. When I
Speaker 2: say that, I mean their dynastic, dynastic peers and their
Speaker 2: oligarch peers, you know, because what Napoleon would do. You know,
Speaker 2: I read, my gosh, almost seven thousand pages of biographical
Speaker 2: and historical material on Napoleon Bonaparte, dating from written during
Speaker 2: his lifetime on up to you know, just a few
Speaker 2: years ago, and in the centuries in between. And when
Speaker 2: you actually dive into the story of Napoleon and you
Speaker 2: read all these different histories, if you don't come away
Speaker 2: with a different view of the man, then you're just
Speaker 2: being stubborn. You're just saying, you know, I just want
Speaker 2: to cling to the status quo because you know, you
Speaker 2: find out, like I was telling you before, how all
Speaker 2: but one of the so called Napoleonic Wars were started
Speaker 2: by the British and the European allies. He only started
Speaker 2: one one, and it wasn't the first one that kicked
Speaker 2: all this off.
Speaker 1: I mean there were I mean, there's so many different
Speaker 1: war famous Battle Austerlitz and all. The recent movie that
Speaker 1: came out, right.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, which I was disappointed with that, uh, partially
Speaker 2: that that actually is a well made film, and it
Speaker 2: actually tells the story of he and of Napoleon and
Speaker 2: Josephine really well, because they did have that kind of relationship,
Speaker 2: even the parts that made everybody snicker that that was
Speaker 2: part of the historical record. Well, you know, one of
Speaker 2: her maids I think they mentioned in the movie, but
Speaker 2: that's true. One of one of the housemaids had sold
Speaker 2: the dirty letters that he had written to Josephine from
Speaker 2: various places, and the newspapers of the day published these things.
Speaker 2: I mean, it was, yeah, it was, and so he
Speaker 2: was livid and embarrassed, and you know, so the film
Speaker 2: really captured that well. But it it Ridley Scott disappointed
Speaker 2: me with he fell back on the Napoleon propaganda, making
Speaker 2: him look like a crazy nut. And you know it just.
Speaker 1: It couldn't have been that crazy because he kept winning
Speaker 1: battles almost all the way to the end.
Speaker 2: He was beating them at their own empire game. And
Speaker 2: that's the other thing that really pissed off the British.
Speaker 2: And just so people understand, when you hear me in
Speaker 2: the context talking about Napoleon and things like this, when
Speaker 2: I refer to the British, I'm referring to the oligarchy.
Speaker 2: I'm referring to the monarchy. I'm referring to their elites.
Speaker 2: I'm not referring to the British people. Because even in
Speaker 2: those days, the British leadership was worried that he would
Speaker 2: win over the British people because they were hearing a
Speaker 2: lot of them were hearing things from other sources and going, hey,
Speaker 2: you know, we were kind of interested in this guy,
Speaker 2: you know, because what he was doing, this is what
Speaker 2: you don't learn in school or in the movies. He
Speaker 2: would go in and yes the countries that he would defeat,
Speaker 2: and that he would conquer, he would set them up
Speaker 2: on a much more democratic leaning system and they were
Speaker 2: realizing pretty quickly, oh wow, wait a minute, we kind
Speaker 2: of have freedom, more freedom than we did before. And
Speaker 2: he's improving our municipalities, okay. And what was happening was
Speaker 2: he was improving the lives of the common people in
Speaker 2: these countries that he conquered. Well, you know, the dynasties
Speaker 2: and the oligarchies, they can't have that because they got
Speaker 2: to keep the people down. Historians generally credit Napoleon Bonaparte
Speaker 2: with being the one figure who ended officially formally the
Speaker 2: feudal system. The feudal system still existed, and Napoleon Bonaparte
Speaker 2: and what he did it officially pretty much brought to
Speaker 2: an end the feudal system in Europe. And they hated
Speaker 2: him for that.
Speaker 1: I believe it. I believe it. Right. So he's coming
Speaker 1: after the French Revolution, right, so.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he was an officer during the revolution. Yeah.
Speaker 1: Right, So he's having these battles against the royalist forces. Right.
Speaker 2: Well, here's the interesting thing. He was he didn't like
Speaker 2: the royalists. Okay, he wasn't on their side. He was
Speaker 2: on the side of you know, the the revolutionaries until
Speaker 2: until the terror started. Now, the terror, of course, as
Speaker 2: we know, is when they really started going crazy and
Speaker 2: chopping everybody's heads off. Okay, and Napoleon wrote letters these
Speaker 2: are part of the historical record in which he said
Speaker 2: that was the point at which they kind of lost
Speaker 2: him because he said, they're going too far. They're ruining
Speaker 2: the cause with all this insane bloodshed. So he kind
Speaker 2: of stopped short of he was on their side in
Speaker 2: the revolution, but he stopped short once they just started
Speaker 2: going into a killing frenzy.
Speaker 1: Right, it was Robustpierre, I guess.
Speaker 2: So yeah, well, I mean they started killing their own
Speaker 2: revolutionary leaders. That tells you how nuts they went.
Speaker 1: Ended up in the jaws of the tiger, so to speaks.
Speaker 1: So he came through all that. I mean, what other
Speaker 1: things would you say about the record of Napoleon are
Speaker 1: more authentic than what you're told through you know, British propaganda,
Speaker 1: who've always propagandized against their enemies.
Speaker 2: Yeah. The The one of the best sources I can
Speaker 2: tell people is to read the books by a British
Speaker 2: historian named Andrew Roberts, who takes a lot of crap
Speaker 2: from his peers. He wrote a book. He's written a
Speaker 2: few books on Napoleon, but the one you should read
Speaker 2: is Napoleon the Great, and he lays out in his
Speaker 2: books and in lectures you can find online, he lays
Speaker 2: out the reason why Napoleon's reputation in an image and
Speaker 2: name deserves a rehabilitation from the British propaganda, from the
Speaker 2: you know, the oligarchic propaganda, because he lays out detail
Speaker 2: after detail, fact after fact that you know, the the
Speaker 2: popular image of this man is not an accurate image,
Speaker 2: and you know, it's really not right because to this day,
Speaker 2: things that Napoleon did envisioned in in under his leadership
Speaker 2: and guidance, you know, exists to this day. The way
Speaker 2: cities are laid out and municipalities are run, this is
Speaker 2: this can be traced back to you know, Napoleon's French Empire.
Speaker 2: And he really was a genius for uh state administration. Okay, Now,
Speaker 2: what's interesting Napoleonic code.
Speaker 1: A lot of people don't know that as well. So yeah,
Speaker 1: it's different code because of him.
Speaker 2: You know, as far as him being this despot and
Speaker 2: you know, this this crazy emperor. You know, people say, oh,
Speaker 2: he crowned himself.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 2: What he did was when the pope was going to
Speaker 2: put the crown on his head. The popes were known,
Speaker 2: they'd done this since Charlemagne. What the popes would do
Speaker 2: when they crowned a French king was they'd throw in
Speaker 2: their little Latin phrase that basically said, the Church is
Speaker 2: allowing you to be the emperor. The Church approves. So
Speaker 2: when the pope puts the crown on the king's head, well,
Speaker 2: what happened with Napoleon was the pope lifted the crown,
Speaker 2: Napoleon took it out of his hands. Napoleon never put
Speaker 2: it on his head. He held it above his head,
Speaker 2: and he did it with his own hands. And the
Speaker 2: statement that he was making was I represent the people,
Speaker 2: and it's the people putting this crown on my head,
Speaker 2: not the Church not annointed, right, Yeah, because he was
Speaker 2: very mindful of the political peccadillos of the Vatican, and
Speaker 2: he's like, no, no, the Church in France is not
Speaker 2: in charge of France.
Speaker 1: You know, it's it's the king had just been beheaded, right,
Speaker 1: king and Antoinette or whatever. So, I mean he's proud
Speaker 1: to have been very sensitive to that. He didn't say
Speaker 1: I found the crown, or maybe he wrote it, I
Speaker 1: found the crown in the gut room.
Speaker 2: I think he wrote it. I don't recall him saying
Speaker 2: it at the coronation, but you know, after he does that,
Speaker 2: he hands you know, sets at a side or something,
Speaker 2: and and all this stuff about him being this stiff,
Speaker 2: you know, humorless megalomaniac. When at the coronation, he and
Speaker 2: Josephine and his entourage they had gone to the wrong door,
Speaker 2: and so they're standing in the side at the wrong
Speaker 2: door and they find us out at the last minute,
Speaker 2: and Napoleon makes some joke like, oh my god, I'm
Speaker 2: such an idiot, you know, that kind of thing, and
Speaker 2: they kind of laughed embarrassed. You know, the guy had
Speaker 2: a good sense of humor about himself, particularly when he
Speaker 2: flubbed up. There was one battle it wasn't Waterloo. It
Speaker 2: was laid in the game there when he started getting
Speaker 2: distracted and he you know, lost a couple of battles.
Speaker 2: There was one that they were racing away from he
Speaker 2: had to flee, and as he was riding away, one
Speaker 2: of his generals was next to him and and he says, well,
Speaker 2: I really we really screwed that one up, didn't we
Speaker 2: And he was just kind of like, oh, shoot, you know,
Speaker 2: what a dummy, you know kind of thing. And so
Speaker 2: this man actually had a much much more human personality
Speaker 2: and sense of humor. But he was a genius. I mean,
Speaker 2: his military tactic, his military style and knowledge is studied
Speaker 2: in war colleges to this day. That's what a brilliant
Speaker 2: you know. He was an artillery officer, you know, primarily,
Speaker 2: but his first love, his real love, was ancient history
Speaker 2: and these lost civilizations kind of stuff. And when after
Speaker 2: Waterloo happened and he knew, you know, that's it, I'm
Speaker 2: not emperor around after the second time my political career,
Speaker 2: he said, I don't want a political career anymore. What
Speaker 2: he was doing was he was pulling together. He pulled
Speaker 2: together a library and field equipment. Okay, and he declared,
Speaker 2: he told his brother and a couple of others, he said, look,
Speaker 2: I'm going to go to America and just spend the
Speaker 2: rest of my life in literally you know, scientific exploration
Speaker 2: and study. And that's what he wanted to do. He
Speaker 2: even said, I'm going to go out and explore California.
Speaker 2: But I just forget this. I'm going to go to
Speaker 2: the Americas. So that's why it's kind of weird that
Speaker 2: he so easily stuck behind and let himself be arrested
Speaker 2: by the British. Because here's a little thing that you're
Speaker 2: also not taught in school and in the movies. A
Speaker 2: US Navy frigate was sent to France and was off
Speaker 2: the coast of not La Rochelle. I can't they It
Speaker 2: begins with an arm doing a brain dumb. The city
Speaker 2: they were in where the British arrested him. A US
Speaker 2: frigate Navy ship arrives in a little a boat, A
Speaker 2: small craft is sent with two US Navy officers waiting
Speaker 2: for him. Okay, and they let it be known we're
Speaker 2: waiting to bring the emperor to America. And Napoleon's brother Joseph,
Speaker 2: who looked astonishingly like him and had been used as
Speaker 2: a double for Napoleon during his lifetime for security purposes.
Speaker 2: The witnesses there, the people there with him, documented this.
Speaker 2: This is documented history. His brother Joseph begged him switch
Speaker 2: places with me. They'll never know the difference until it's
Speaker 2: too late. There's a navy ship, you, an American Navy
Speaker 2: ship waiting to take you to the States get on
Speaker 2: that vote now, and we're taught that Napoleon, after gathering
Speaker 2: all his stuff to go explore the Americas like he
Speaker 2: said he was going to do, okay, we're told that
Speaker 2: he says, no, I'm going to trust the British. They're
Speaker 2: going to treat me like a gentleman, you know, and
Speaker 2: that he didn't take Joseph up on the deal. But
Speaker 2: here's the interesting thing. I don't even say Napoleon was
Speaker 2: on Saint Helena. I call them the Bonaparte refugee because
Speaker 2: I believe they did switch places. And that's not original
Speaker 2: with me. That's something that some scholars have increasingly believed
Speaker 2: for the last fifty years that he did switch places
Speaker 2: with Joseph. But here's the interesting thing. While the Bonaparte
Speaker 2: refugee on Saint Helena was being interviewed by a British
Speaker 2: historian assigned by the authorities in England to interview Napoleon,
Speaker 2: so to speak, we are told he comes back and
Speaker 2: reports to his superiors. He goes, I don't think this
Speaker 2: is Napoleon, guys, I really don't think this is him.
Speaker 2: And you know, we're not told what he was told,
Speaker 2: and Joseph Bonaparte, look it up. So called Joseph, I
Speaker 2: put air quotes around the first name is known to
Speaker 2: history to have lived in the United States until the
Speaker 2: eighteen thirties. Late eighteen thirties. He lived in Philadelphia, he
Speaker 2: lived in New Jersey. And on the one on the
Speaker 2: street in Philadelphia, I believe it was, he's walking down
Speaker 2: the street and a frenchman comes up and says, mon Emperor,
Speaker 2: and we're told that. Joseph says, oh, no, no, you're mistaken.
Speaker 2: I'm his brother Joseph. And the guy says, no, no, no,
Speaker 2: I know my emperor. You know this guy had been
Speaker 2: a personal guard of Napoleons. Okay, so you know, so yes.
Speaker 2: In the first book, the last part of the book
Speaker 2: is I lay out that I think I do believe.
Speaker 2: I'm one of those that believes he took up the
Speaker 2: offer and traded identities with his brother Joseph. I explained
Speaker 2: why and how that could have worked, and it's all basically.
Speaker 1: It wasn't the grandson of Napoleon, like in Lincoln's Cabinet
Speaker 1: or something like that.
Speaker 2: The great nephew, Napoleon's younger brother. That younger brother's grandson
Speaker 2: was Charles Bonaparte and he became secret He was born
Speaker 2: in Baltimore, Maryland. He became the Secretary of the Navy
Speaker 2: under Teddy Roosevelt. Interesting Bonaparte, Charles Bonaparte was the Secretary
Speaker 2: of the Navy who facilitated the return of John Paul
Speaker 2: Jones's remains from Paris when they were discovered. But Charles
Speaker 2: Bonaparte went on after that to become attorney general, and
Speaker 2: he created what was known as the Bureau of Investigation,
Speaker 2: which was federal level, and for twenty years it was
Speaker 2: the BI. It was known to be lazy and corrupt, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: and in nineteen twenty eight it became the FBI. So
Speaker 2: Charles Bonaparte started the FBI. Really wow as well.
Speaker 1: Amazing, so like this is like this amazing history. So
Speaker 1: Bonaparte might have been switched out. I mean, it is
Speaker 1: a strange life. Like he literally ended his military career
Speaker 1: at a fairly young age forty five or forty sixers. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean in all, like, how many wins did he
Speaker 1: even wrote ten wins? He loved Alexander too, He liked
Speaker 1: to read about Alexander.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, he you know, there were some disasters on
Speaker 2: the Egyptian expedition, but they, of course are characterized to
Speaker 2: make him look evil. And then there's all the nonsense
Speaker 2: about him being the first of three ani that Nostradamus predicted.
Speaker 2: Here's the truth about that, Okay, Because I get that
Speaker 2: thrown at me all the time, I go, well, that's nonsense.
Speaker 2: Because the man who first started that rumor, okay, who
Speaker 2: wrote about that, this was I think in the late
Speaker 2: nineteenth century or the very early years of the twentieth century.
Speaker 2: He based his whole hypothesis on that on a very
Speaker 2: bad translation of Nostradamus, and he himself admitted that and
Speaker 2: admitted that, nah, it was a bad translation. You know,
Speaker 2: essentially he admitted that he made that up. So the
Speaker 2: whole thing about Nostradamus allegedly, you know, identifying Napoleon as
Speaker 2: the first Antichrist. People say, but in Nostrodamus's book it says,
Speaker 2: I'm telling you, folks, that's a bad translation. It's not accurate,
Speaker 2: it's not true. Nostrodamus did not really identify it, but
Speaker 2: it was part of the propaganda. You know, it just
Speaker 2: became the thing to do trash Napoleon because hey, we
Speaker 2: all know he's evil, right.
Speaker 1: Right, he's an enemy of the royal crown, so if
Speaker 1: you come from the English speaking world, you're gonna look
Speaker 1: at him like.
Speaker 2: It's still done today to leaders who aren't.
Speaker 1: Liked he's But it's also interesting, like I think he
Speaker 1: was Corsican too, so he's not he's kind of like
Speaker 1: really Mediterranean.
Speaker 2: Oh he's Italian. He essentially you know, his mother or
Speaker 2: her last name was Ramalino, she was she was Italian.
Speaker 2: The man who's supposed to be his father, Carlo Bonaparte,
Speaker 2: because their names were Bonaparte, and then he francoized it whatever,
Speaker 2: you know, turned it French. When when he got the
Speaker 2: French you know, some government guy to approve Napoleon and
Speaker 2: Joseph to go to school, get them a slot in
Speaker 2: military academies in France. So that's when they were turned French.
Speaker 2: Napoleon was always kind of teased throughout his life because
Speaker 2: he spoke French with an Italian accent. He never quite
Speaker 2: got the French accent down.
Speaker 1: But that's also kind of a place of a lot
Speaker 1: of mystery and stuff like that, like old tombs and yeah,
Speaker 1: other civilizations are all over the place.
Speaker 2: And I was going to say his father and this
Speaker 2: is all in the first book. But his father, the
Speaker 2: man identified, you know, Carlo Buonaparte, might not have been
Speaker 2: his real father. And I go into all that in
Speaker 2: the first book.
Speaker 1: Interesting, yes, he I mean it really is an interesting life.
Speaker 1: So he went to so he was in Egypt, and
Speaker 1: have you heard the room I think we were talking
Speaker 1: to this pre show like he supposedly cannon aated off
Speaker 1: the nose.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah. The whole thing about the blasting the nose
Speaker 2: off of My understanding from the sources when you really
Speaker 2: look at that, is that it was a group of
Speaker 2: Muslims who had done that, and maybe some some third
Speaker 2: country nationals as we call them in the military world,
Speaker 2: who were you know, hired as mercenaries by the French army. Napoleon.
Speaker 2: Napoleon would have been appalled at the destruction because think
Speaker 2: about it, he brings hundreds of these savants to study.
Speaker 2: I mean, Egyptology started with Napoleon's Egyptian expedition. Okay, now
Speaker 2: he was a.
Speaker 1: Lot of famous French Egyptologists. I mean, one of the
Speaker 1: original guys who was trying to decipher the glyphs or
Speaker 1: whatever they are was French, right, Wasn't that his name?
Speaker 1: I forgot.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah. Later on we're told that the translation
Speaker 2: of the Rosetta Stone was of course done by you know,
Speaker 2: British historians, and I argue in the book that there's
Speaker 2: reason to suspect that the translation was done by the
Speaker 2: French before the year that we're told that it was.
Speaker 2: Because here's what's interesting, here's another level of intrigue with Napoleon.
Speaker 2: One of his officers was Colonel de Hopepool. Okay, now
Speaker 2: d'hopepool was the nephew of Madame d'h Hoopoole, whose grave
Speaker 2: factors heavily in the Rendles Chateau mystery.
Speaker 1: That can you explain that to people who don't know
Speaker 1: what that is?
Speaker 2: In the Rendles Chateau mystery, there is a suspicion, let's
Speaker 2: call it an hypothesis, hypothesis that the remains of Mary
Speaker 2: Magdalen were buried in France because she had made it
Speaker 2: to Europe, and you know, her remains are buried in France.
Speaker 2: And there was this priest in the late nineteenth century,
Speaker 2: Baron Jaer Sognier, father Sognier, who while he is refurbishing,
Speaker 2: fixing the altar in the church, he's a priest the
Speaker 2: church that he's assigned to in this little village rend
Speaker 2: La Chateau, he finds these documents that were hidden inside
Speaker 2: the altar, and what he found in the documents was
Speaker 2: very shocking. He goes to Paris to talk to the
Speaker 2: church authorities, and then after that he seems to have
Speaker 2: an endless supply of money. The church in Paris and
Speaker 2: the Vatican leave him alone. They let him do what
Speaker 2: he wants. He's able to fix roads and everything in
Speaker 2: the village and just live a lifestyle that priests normally,
Speaker 2: you know, usually didn't live. And so the intrigue is
Speaker 2: that what did he find? What was this information that
Speaker 2: he found? And part of the mystery is that there's
Speaker 2: this artist, Nicholas Poissin Poisson who did this painting called
Speaker 2: Three Shepherds, which famously has the phrase at an Arcadia ego,
Speaker 2: which a lot of people refer to the painting, and
Speaker 2: it shows these three shepherds at different stages of you know, age,
Speaker 2: young man, middle aged man, old man, and there's a
Speaker 2: skull on the grave site. Well, they're all pointing to
Speaker 2: this grave site, this tomb and such, and this all
Speaker 2: points to an actual grave site where wherein is buried
Speaker 2: a woman, Madame de Hoolepool. Okay, and there's all this
Speaker 2: intrigue as to Okay, the Poissan art points to her,
Speaker 2: and it all points to Rendla Chateau, and you know, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's it right there, you know, the big mystery. And
Speaker 2: so it's interesting. It's interesting that we have a relative
Speaker 2: of Madame de Holepool on the Egyptian expedition. He's an
Speaker 2: officer in Napoleon's army and he's there with the man
Speaker 2: who discovers the Rosetta Stone for the first time. And
Speaker 2: the Rosetta Stone physical connections to Madame de Hoolepool's grave marker.
Speaker 2: So that's why this whole the whole pool thing, you know, It's.
Speaker 1: Rosetta stone was found as part of just a wall somewhere.
Speaker 2: The story is is that the the guy who found it,
Speaker 2: uh literally stepped on it, stumbled upon it. Yeah, in ruins,
Speaker 2: ancient ruins, now, I you know, suggest in the book
Speaker 2: that it was that the discovery was a planted discovery,
Speaker 2: that this had been found under some other means. And yeah,
Speaker 2: I think the translation was done before Napoleon even left
Speaker 2: Egypt of the Rosetta Stone.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, this is this some people have analyzed
Speaker 1: this whole painting. There's like geometric elements to it that
Speaker 1: go outside like something.
Speaker 2: Oh and here's another thing that's interesting. A descendant of
Speaker 2: Nicholas Poissan. He was an officer in Napoleon's army, and
Speaker 2: when all the Bonapartists after Waterloo fled to the United States,
Speaker 2: this Poissan became an officer in the US Army and
Speaker 2: he was a he was an engineering officer. Okay, so
Speaker 2: cartography and geography were his things. And uh, that's what
Speaker 2: he did for the US Army. So you know, I
Speaker 2: wonder what might he have known, because there is some
Speaker 2: argument to be made that some of Poissan's paintings were
Speaker 2: pointing to a landscape in America, in the Americas, and
Speaker 2: that has to do with all the Arcadia stuff going on,
Speaker 2: because at n Arcadia Ego, Right, So they they.
Speaker 1: Called the Northern Canada today Arcadia one, they were called Arcadians, right.
Speaker 2: So yeah, and this is where Cajun comes from. Because
Speaker 2: when when the British once again and those that wonderful
Speaker 2: British Empire forced all those people out of their homes
Speaker 2: because well they wanted it. They all had to come
Speaker 2: down the coast or down you know land, you know,
Speaker 2: across the land, and that's where a lot of them
Speaker 2: ended up down in the Gulf of Mexico, Louisiana and
Speaker 2: the American southeast. And that's where the term Cajun comes from. Arcadian, Arcaguns,
Speaker 2: Cajun right, right.
Speaker 1: It's incredible. History really is something else, like the French
Speaker 1: world and all that stuff. But yeah, somebody asked and
Speaker 1: the rip dog assid if I've read the writings of
Speaker 1: Napoleon had very perverse sexual practices, was possibly the alstro
Speaker 1: Coli of his day.
Speaker 2: No, those are those are British exaggerations. I mean, unless
Speaker 2: you call you know.
Speaker 1: Did you have any connection to oral sex?
Speaker 2: Is what he wrote about.
Speaker 1: That you did you have any connections? Tod was in
Speaker 1: the bas Deal when it was overthrown, right.
Speaker 2: So did not not in almost seven thousand pages of
Speaker 2: what I come across it. Yeah, I didn't come across that.
Speaker 2: And he was not as far as being a Crowley
Speaker 2: of his day. I didn't find anything where he got
Speaker 2: into any kind of black magic either at any kind
Speaker 2: of magic at all. Low level psychic stuff you know,
Speaker 2: he experienced, but nothing seriously. But that's all. That's all
Speaker 2: part of that propaganda. Whenever you hear stuff like that,
Speaker 2: it's all the propaganda.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's he He has a much more interesting guy,
Speaker 1: very I mean incredible talent, like his empire building, a.
Speaker 2: Much more respectable man than he gets credit for. I
Speaker 2: I am, you know, pro bonaparte. This this guy he
Speaker 2: was not perfect, you know what leader is, but he
Speaker 2: was not the evil devil, megalomaniac deathspot that so many
Speaker 2: people just accept. You know, did you.
Speaker 1: Find there was truth to like this stories of him
Speaker 1: reading books late into the night by himself and.
Speaker 2: Just oh yeah, oh gosh. Yeah. I mean he carried
Speaker 2: an extensive library on the ship that took him down
Speaker 2: to Egypt. I mean he traveled with a library wherever
Speaker 2: he went. This guy was a voracious reader. He was
Speaker 2: fascinated with again, these kind of you know what we
Speaker 2: would call these Indiana Jones type of interests. He was
Speaker 2: fascinated with that.
Speaker 1: Trust. Well, Walter, we are it's Friday night, it's almost
Speaker 1: six o'clock. We have two books. Where can people find
Speaker 1: esoteric Napoleon one and two.
Speaker 2: They it's really easy. They can go to Walter Bosley
Speaker 2: dot com.
Speaker 1: And that's those are signed copies too, right.
Speaker 2: No, No, I can always arrange with someone if they
Speaker 2: want assigned copy. That costs a little bit more because
Speaker 2: of all the double shipping and stuff that goes on.
Speaker 2: But now they can go to Walterbossi dot com and
Speaker 2: that's where the link to my books are and all
Speaker 2: sorts of other things.
Speaker 1: Yeah. So I'll put a link to your website and
Speaker 1: you have your link to I know you have an
Speaker 1: active YouTube channel too.
Speaker 2: Right, Walter Bossley channel at YouTube. Absolutely check that out
Speaker 2: and there.
Speaker 1: You're with Todd Wood. And I'll put links to both
Speaker 1: the YouTube channel and to your website so people can
Speaker 1: check out these books and your other books. I've read
Speaker 1: these other angersol at Lockwood. It was really cool. So
Speaker 1: thanks so much for your time. Well again, it's Walter
Speaker 1: Bosley is the author, and the title of the books
Speaker 1: we kind of covered today are Esoteric Napoleon one and two.
Speaker 1: And it's Friday, so everybody have a great weekend. Thanks Walter,
Speaker 1: Thank you all right, take care, stay there.