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Speaker 2: Now, what are your reporting? I got a screen going
Speaker 2: on here. Something just kid with my dog, something to
Speaker 2: kill your dog. My dog. We're flying through there over
Speaker 2: the tree. I don't know how it did it. Okay, damn,
Speaker 2: I'm really confused. All I saw was my dog coming
Speaker 2: over the fence, and name was dead once you hit
Speaker 2: the ground. I didn't see any cars. All I saw
Speaker 2: was my dog coming over the fence. What are you reporting?
Speaker 2: We got some wonder or something crawling around out here?
Speaker 2: Did you see what it was? It enough out here
Speaker 2: looking them new to window now and I don't need anything.
Speaker 2: I don't want to go outside. It's fat. Hello, hit
Speaker 2: the buddy out here? What quint on Melter? I thought
Speaker 2: of a bit about tech foot nine. I don't know
Speaker 2: eat an outer. Yeah, I'm walking right, heady and folks.
Speaker 1: Will welcome O guest to the show. It is Nonah
Speaker 1: Boss from Florida. Welcome to the show.
Speaker 3: Thank you for having me.
Speaker 1: This has been a long time coming. We're out here
Speaker 1: on location at the Ozark Mountain Bigfoot Conference camp out
Speaker 1: in the wild Ozark Mountains of Missouri. I want to
Speaker 1: start where I start with everybody when I bring him
Speaker 1: on the show. What in the world got you interested
Speaker 1: in the subject of Bigfoot to begin with?
Speaker 3: Actually it was Leonard Nimoy's In Search of episode as
Speaker 3: a little kid. It just sparked my interest. So I
Speaker 3: was like, Oh, this is cool? Is this real? Anything
Speaker 3: and everything I could find and watch as a kid,
Speaker 3: I just gravitated to it. Moving to South Florida in
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty, people talked about the Skun Cape all the time.
Speaker 3: They're like, oh, dunk on the woods, dunk on the woods,
Speaker 3: especially at night. And then I had a sighting in
Speaker 3: nineteen eighty six. It was a nighttime sighting. We were
Speaker 3: out on the levee out in the middle of the Everglades.
Speaker 3: We were looking for snakes. They come up to the
Speaker 3: top of the levee to get warmth that night. Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's a one vehicle road. It's just basically a service
Speaker 3: road kind of thing. On each side, it's just nothing
Speaker 3: but sawgrass. As far as I can see, it's just
Speaker 3: saw grass. Then you may see we off in the
Speaker 3: distance another levee out there, because it's like this grid
Speaker 3: of service levees. We had our lights on, but we're
Speaker 3: going really slow. It was just this black thing, but
Speaker 3: we weren't sure. We just saw it at the edge
Speaker 3: of the lights. It was climbing up or crawling up
Speaker 3: the side of the levee to get to the top,
Speaker 3: and there was just this one fluid movement. It's so
Speaker 3: difficult to describe. It's just like it went from literally
Speaker 3: on all forest, climbing up the side to this crazy,
Speaker 3: weird fluid. Okay, I'm taking a step and I'm upright,
Speaker 3: so it's standing upright. It took a step. One step.
Speaker 3: That step landed literally in the middle of the road
Speaker 3: and it just stopped. It turned, looked at us, then
Speaker 3: took the next step, and it was down the other
Speaker 3: side of the levee. It was actually really scary. It
Speaker 3: was very shocking. There's nothing out there that could be
Speaker 3: in sawgrass. I don't know where the heck it came from,
Speaker 3: but it traveled through sawgrass and then went on the
Speaker 3: other side down into sawgrass. When it looked at us
Speaker 3: when it stopped, and it looked and had these red
Speaker 3: eyes and it was not eyeshine. They were illuminating red.
Speaker 3: It had to have been I don't know, at least
Speaker 3: eight feet the body was jet black, and it looked
Speaker 3: like Patty, like that big bulky body type. And it
Speaker 3: was just such a strange thing to see out there,
Speaker 3: you know what I mean, there's nothing out there like that.
Speaker 3: You're lucky if maybe you see once in a while
Speaker 3: armadillo here, or a rabbit here, or maybe a bobcat
Speaker 3: once it on a blue moon. Because the first thought
Speaker 3: was was that a bear? Did we just see a bear?
Speaker 3: Your mind, you're trying to kind of debunk it. You're
Speaker 3: trying to figure out, Wait, there are no bear here,
Speaker 3: not right here, There is no bear, especially an eight
Speaker 3: foot tall black bear. It actually was scary though, because
Speaker 3: you're out there and this thing is huge. What do
Speaker 3: you do? You can't do a three point turn? So
Speaker 3: what do we do? Do We go down the direction
Speaker 3: he was at, put it in reverse, get the jeep
Speaker 3: in reverse, back out. It was really scary. For a
Speaker 3: long time, neither one of us really talked about what
Speaker 3: we saw, even though, like I said, people would be like, oh,
Speaker 3: I was skunkcape, don't going was at night. I just
Speaker 3: never really talked about it. I would tell my kids
Speaker 3: the same thing, don't go on the wizard night. Skunkcape's
Speaker 3: gonna get you. And I used to do that to
Speaker 3: my own kids, right, But they thought I was half
Speaker 3: joking because I never actually shared my experience with them
Speaker 3: until they were grown men with their own kids. That
Speaker 3: happened in nineteen eighty six. In twenty twenty two, my
Speaker 3: son had a YouTube channel and we were going down
Speaker 3: this road together looking for this thing because he had
Speaker 3: come to find out he had his own experience as well,
Speaker 3: his own inciting when he was about eight years old
Speaker 3: that I never told me about. There was an area
Speaker 3: not too far from his grandmother's house, and he was
Speaker 3: in this hilarias near a state park. He was back
Speaker 3: in there looking for a little hermit crabs and just
Speaker 3: doing what an eight year old does in the woods.
Speaker 3: He felt like something was standing over his shoulder looking
Speaker 3: at him. He moved his head and there it was.
Speaker 3: He was just standing there. He froze for a second,
Speaker 3: and he just got up and ran back to the house.
Speaker 3: I remember the day. Never told me exactly what happened,
Speaker 3: but I remember the day. When he got to the house.
Speaker 3: He was all panting, are you okay, what's going on?
Speaker 3: What's going on? And he's like I was just running.
Speaker 3: I was just running. I'm like, all right. He never
Speaker 3: explained it, never really told me. As a mom, even
Speaker 3: though I knew someone was going on, I wouldn't have
Speaker 3: ever thought it was that it was interesting that he
Speaker 3: had described to me what it looked like and that
Speaker 3: it was this beautiful amber color. So in twenty twenty two,
Speaker 3: it was actually a little family thing that we were
Speaker 3: doing that day. We were in a big cypress preserve.
Speaker 3: We're on a trail. On one side of the trail,
Speaker 3: saw this huge depression, this big round depression. We're checking
Speaker 3: it out as researchers, were like, what the heck, And
Speaker 3: then we see there's two game trails that literally came
Speaker 3: to a v right in towards this big round hole
Speaker 3: in the ground. We were just like, wow, this is weird,
Speaker 3: Like why would two game trails come and converge? Are
Speaker 3: you here? So we're just trying to work that out
Speaker 3: in our minds. My daughter in law was still on
Speaker 3: the trail and Matt and I are off the trail
Speaker 3: to take a look at this, and literally from the
Speaker 3: other side of the trail, you could hear the stick
Speaker 3: was thrown and you could hear it like coming at you.
Speaker 3: It came over the trail and it landed in between
Speaker 3: Matt and I like, okay, don't look at that. Look
Speaker 3: over here. I'm like, where did that come from? Let's
Speaker 3: go I'm going I'm gonna go check that.
Speaker 2: Out with that.
Speaker 3: So we abandoned what we were doing, went across the
Speaker 3: road and I'm standing there and I'm like, where did
Speaker 3: this come from? Trying to figure out where I need
Speaker 3: to be focusing. It was interesting because my first experience
Speaker 3: was very terrifying. Right, this was not It was calm, peaceful, serene.
Speaker 3: I see him, we lock eyes. I' mean just in awe.
Speaker 3: The interesting thing was is he was not this big
Speaker 3: patty dark black and it was beautiful auburn. He had
Speaker 3: this really soft, ashy grayskin, and he looked more human,
Speaker 3: kind of Native American features a little bit, but he
Speaker 3: looked so human in the face, just so human. He
Speaker 3: didn't have a conical head. It was round. We're looking
Speaker 3: at each other and he just sank down like a periscope,
Speaker 3: straight down, and he's gone. Because Matt and I had
Speaker 3: been documenting this thing on the other side of the trio,
Speaker 3: this depression, I had my selfie stick. I just start
Speaker 3: putting it up in the air, and I'm just taking
Speaker 3: pictures right, just from right to left. My daughter in
Speaker 3: law she's over on my right hand side. My son's
Speaker 3: on the left. She's doing the same thing. She's a
Speaker 3: professional photographer. Suit she had a cannon. She loves to
Speaker 3: go out in the wilderness with books and take pictures
Speaker 3: and stuff. So I go home, I'm looking through my
Speaker 3: photos and I don't see shit. I don't see anything.
Speaker 3: I called my son and said, hey, send me the
Speaker 3: photos Kaitlin took. I want to see all those photos
Speaker 3: she took. I found it in one of her photos.
Speaker 3: That's what I saw. But, like I said, wasn't the
Speaker 3: big bulky Patty looked to it at all. It was
Speaker 3: this basketball players lean, only about seven seve and a half.
Speaker 3: Maybe it wasn't all the tall. But it just gave
Speaker 3: me such a different feeling from the first sighting that
Speaker 3: I had. It was calm, it was peaceful, and it
Speaker 3: was like I'm here, I see you, and now you
Speaker 3: could see me. All right, I gotta go. That's how
Speaker 3: it felt for me.
Speaker 1: I want to go back to the first sighting that
Speaker 1: you had at night. Obviously you had seen in search
Speaker 1: of bigfoot was on your radar somewhat at that point.
Speaker 1: Did it immediately register to you when you guys saw
Speaker 1: what you saw? That's what you saw? Did you have
Speaker 1: this internal debate? Was that a big foot? Could it
Speaker 1: have been something else? Obviously it could have been a bear,
Speaker 1: but there's no bears in that area that kind of thing.
Speaker 1: Was that the internal conversation you were having with yourself?
Speaker 1: And I guess the second part of that would be,
Speaker 1: this is something I've heard so many times. People are together,
Speaker 1: they have this experience together, and then it's complete silence.
Speaker 1: Nobody talks about it. Do you have a theory on
Speaker 1: why that is? Even though you shared this with the
Speaker 1: other person, if you talk about it, it makes it
Speaker 1: more real? What was it for you? Do you think
Speaker 1: that kept you guys from talking about that experience afterwards?
Speaker 3: Yes, you're right, I definitely from the in search of episode,
Speaker 3: in the moment I knew what I was looking at,
Speaker 3: I did. In the moment, I knew exactly what the
Speaker 3: hell it was. However, after it, You're like, this literally
Speaker 3: just happened to me. So I'm trying to compartmentalize, and
Speaker 3: then I'm like, wait a minute, let me critically think
Speaker 3: this through. Could it have been a bear? Could it
Speaker 3: have been a person? I'm ticking off the boxes because
Speaker 3: I thought through the years, Okay, if I can tick
Speaker 3: off this box, then that eliminates this. Okay, this eliminates thought.
Speaker 3: And then what I get all the way down to
Speaker 3: it was bigfoot. There is no other thing it could
Speaker 3: have been. So I felt, if I'm eliminating everything that
Speaker 3: it could possibly be, I was only left with one
Speaker 3: thing at the end of all of that. Why we
Speaker 3: never really talked about it? Honestly, I never really gave
Speaker 3: a thought to that till you just asked that question.
Speaker 3: I do think that there is on some level, even
Speaker 3: though you know what you saw, talking about it makes
Speaker 3: it even more real. And I believe that people have
Speaker 3: their experience and choose one or two pathways. They either
Speaker 3: shut it down, try to forget about it, or they
Speaker 3: start their own journey looking for it more almost an obsession.
Speaker 3: I think they almost mentally make a decision. I'm gonna
Speaker 3: not think and talk about this, but I think I
Speaker 3: need to know more.
Speaker 1: One of the things that happened after my experiences last
Speaker 1: summer out in the Pacific Northwest was I doubted myself.
Speaker 1: I knew what I had experienced, I knew what I
Speaker 1: was ten feet away from, but I still had these
Speaker 1: doubts in my mind of was it really Even though
Speaker 1: I knew we saw what we saw, I still went
Speaker 1: through that for a while. The difference in our experience
Speaker 1: is we weren't able to talk about it publicly for
Speaker 1: so long, and we wanted to so badly. We would
Speaker 1: have those conversations among the team. I've talked about this before.
Speaker 1: Right after you have an experience like that, it's very
Speaker 1: much it goes back to the my days as a
Speaker 1: police officer. You're involved in something traumatic and officer involved
Speaker 1: shooting or something like that. It takes two or three,
Speaker 1: sometimes four sleep cycles for people to fully recall what
Speaker 1: they experienced because there's trauma involved, there's high adrenaline involved.
Speaker 1: We were eventually able to talk about those things. It's
Speaker 1: such an interesting part of this when people experience those
Speaker 1: things together and they don't talk about it. I always
Speaker 1: like to have those conversations to see what it's like
Speaker 1: for everybody, because it's different. It's a different experience, and
Speaker 1: like you said, you process it differently and it sends
Speaker 1: you in one of two directions. The other question I
Speaker 1: have for you before we move on to some of
Speaker 1: your other experiences is I experienced something in the Pasaific Northwest.
Speaker 1: I was chasing this thing from ten feet away with
Speaker 1: the zero fear. I've talked about it so many times publicly.
Speaker 1: I had this moment where Bubba suggested somebody stay behind.
Speaker 1: I was the first to volunteer for that, and I
Speaker 1: got a very ominous, overwhelming fear that I could not explain,
Speaker 1: and I got the hell out of there. You had
Speaker 1: very different experiences with the nighttime siding versus what you
Speaker 1: experienced in your daylight class a experience. I know it's
Speaker 1: subjective and there's really no way to know, but have
Speaker 1: you thought about what the difference in those scenarios was
Speaker 1: and why you had the fear that you had in
Speaker 1: the first sighting that you didn't experience when you were
Speaker 1: closer and it was daylight when you saw this thing.
Speaker 1: Do you think there's something to that. Was it because
Speaker 1: it was at night or do you think that it's
Speaker 1: possible that there are different experiences that people have with
Speaker 1: these creatures for other reasons.
Speaker 3: I think the first one, at my nighttime sighting, I
Speaker 3: feel like it was more shocking. It was just so shocking.
Speaker 3: It's something you don't expect, and your brain can't process
Speaker 3: something that it's never seen before.
Speaker 1: And stay tuned for more sasquat chota sy. We're going
Speaker 1: right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: Your brain doesn't understand what it's looking at because your
Speaker 3: brain has nothing to reference it. Your brain can't go, oh,
Speaker 3: I've seen that before, so I know exactly what that is. Boom, okay,
Speaker 3: move on. Your brain is struggling in that moment. I
Speaker 3: think now the daytime sighting. Honestly, I know this sounds crazy.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry. Let me go back a little bit. So
Speaker 3: the nighttime sighting. I think that there was fear as
Speaker 3: I look back now in hindsight twenty twenty. But as
Speaker 3: I look back at it, my fear wasn't necessarily that
Speaker 3: I thought it was going to harm us, because it
Speaker 3: literally acted like, oh you're there. Oh, I'm just going
Speaker 3: about my business. So other than look our direction, it
Speaker 3: gave nothing that said I should be in fear. The
Speaker 3: fear part of it was only from my perspective that
Speaker 3: was me having that response to this interaction. The daytime sighting,
Speaker 3: I think I was just so open to it because
Speaker 3: I had been in the community for a while. My
Speaker 3: son and I had been one of few expeditions and
Speaker 3: several hikes and different places. We've been in Florida looking
Speaker 3: for evidence, and we've had lots and lots of experiences,
Speaker 3: all different types of experiences. So I think it was
Speaker 3: just super open to it. Okay, there he is. I
Speaker 3: had this experience. It was scary on my part, but
Speaker 3: I'm looking for it right now. Whether he knew I
Speaker 3: had that intention or not, I don't know. Some people
Speaker 3: think that if you go in with a specific intention
Speaker 3: that it's going to change your experience, or you have
Speaker 3: a better potential for an experience if your intention is
Speaker 3: that you don't mean them any harm. All these things
Speaker 3: right that may or may not be true. I don't know.
Speaker 3: All I know is that we were there to investigate,
Speaker 3: we were looking for evidence, and it just happened. But
Speaker 3: we were on the road looking for this thing, so
Speaker 3: I was open to it.
Speaker 1: Let's go into some of your other experiences that you've
Speaker 1: had while you've been out looking for these things.
Speaker 3: Okay, we have an area that my son and I
Speaker 3: go to. We do have a little gifting area, little
Speaker 3: spot we're there one night. The area is not public land.
Speaker 3: You're allowed to be in there during the day, but
Speaker 3: at night time you got to get out of there
Speaker 3: by dusk. So what we do is we hike in.
Speaker 3: We hike in I don't know about an hour in,
Speaker 3: We go check our a little gifting area, see if
Speaker 3: there's any activity. Then we hike back out. Then we
Speaker 3: sit and hang out, listen, see if there's any interactions anything.
Speaker 3: He had a front ends that came and met us
Speaker 3: there that night. He's got this big old hummer. He
Speaker 3: decides he's going to blast the Sierra Sounds. I'm like, dude,
Speaker 3: I don't know if this is a good idea. We've
Speaker 3: never done that before. I'm sure what kind of reaction
Speaker 3: are we going to get? And he's just hell bent
Speaker 3: on it. He blasts. He had it on a loop.
Speaker 3: I don't know. I just felt like it wasn't right.
Speaker 3: I felt like this was not a cool thing to
Speaker 3: be doing. And the first rock comes in and it
Speaker 3: hit his hummer, hit the front of his hummer. I said,
Speaker 3: think you better turn that off. He just kept fighting it.
Speaker 3: He was really wanting to antagonize the shit out of them.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry to say that's exactly what his intent was.
Speaker 3: I could tell. I'm just like, dude, this is not right.
Speaker 3: You can't do this. Finally he turns it off and
Speaker 3: second rock comes in, except this rock hits his windshield
Speaker 3: so hard it chipped it. I've got the photos of
Speaker 3: his windshield where it hit and you can see the
Speaker 3: chip and all that. So he gets a little ballsy
Speaker 3: and he thinks, I almost see where that came from,
Speaker 3: and he starts walking down. Rock three comes in. Rock
Speaker 3: three comes in and lands literally in the center of
Speaker 3: the top of my suv. Guys, I think we need
Speaker 3: to go at this point, like we really do. We
Speaker 3: need to get out of here. They're very upset, they're
Speaker 3: obviously super agitated. This is not going well. We need
Speaker 3: to go. So Matt and I start putting everything in
Speaker 3: the car, packing up, and he's still trying to see
Speaker 3: where things are coming from, and he's still trying to
Speaker 3: still force some kind of interaction, like we need to go.
Speaker 3: Rock four comes in and it hits the side of
Speaker 3: his hummer. Again. We go over, and every rock was
Speaker 3: getting bigger and bigger. Rock four was size of the
Speaker 3: palm of my hands. Then Rock five comes in. Rock
Speaker 3: five comes in and it's bigger than a softball. It
Speaker 3: was big. Like I said, there's these signs that say, hey,
Speaker 3: you can't be here after dusk. So there's these metal
Speaker 3: signs telling you all this. And it hit that dead center.
Speaker 3: It hit so hard that it dented the metal sign
Speaker 3: and I'm like, okay, we are getting the hell out
Speaker 3: of here. Matt was over looking at the rock and
Speaker 3: he starts taking pictures of it and he's shining a
Speaker 3: light on it and he goes, Mom, there's like a
Speaker 3: hair on this rock. I'm like, what do you mean,
Speaker 3: there's a hair on the rock. I said, look, grab
Speaker 3: a paper bag. Bag it up. We got to get
Speaker 3: out of here, and we left his ass there. We
Speaker 3: were out. I was like, uh uh no, we're done.
Speaker 3: They're pissed. We're leaving. Is I'm gonna stay, so go
Speaker 3: right ahead, go right ahead. So yeah, next day we
Speaker 3: find out that they scared the Bejesus out of him
Speaker 3: and he left about ten minutes after we did. But
Speaker 3: that hair on that rock, and I'll show you photos
Speaker 3: is interesting. It's a white, totally translucent, clear hair. It's
Speaker 3: almost like a curly cue position on the rock. It's
Speaker 3: very weird. And the other thing that we did notice too,
Speaker 3: on the other two rocks that we were able to collect,
Speaker 3: they were wet and it hadn't rained. There was no
Speaker 3: water in the area because we'd hiked in and hiked
Speaker 3: back out and there wasn't really any water around. So
Speaker 3: we were thinking maybe they were holding them in their mouth. Possibly,
Speaker 3: we don't know, but it was weird that they were wet.
Speaker 3: We couldn't figure out how and why they would have
Speaker 3: been wet. But yeah, honestly, that was probably the scariest
Speaker 3: thing that I've ever experience because it was intentional. Okay,
Speaker 3: I'm going to throw a small rock. You didn't listen
Speaker 3: to me. Next one is going to be a little bigger,
Speaker 3: and the next one's going to be a little closer.
Speaker 3: So it just seemed, Okay, this is escalating and I'll
Speaker 3: got to mess with the Sierra sounds out in the
Speaker 3: woods again. Ever, lesson learned.
Speaker 1: I can't say that I'll blame you for that.
Speaker 3: There was another experience that we had in Coal Creek.
Speaker 3: Col Creek's absolutely beautiful. It is one of my favorite
Speaker 3: places to go. It's up near the Green Swamp area.
Speaker 3: It is beautiful. There just peaceful, serene. It was amazing.
Speaker 3: We'll see. I'm trying to remember. It wasn't in Okaala
Speaker 3: that year. It was before they started having it, you
Speaker 3: know what I'm talking about. I can't remember where it
Speaker 3: was before that, but we were there for that conference.
Speaker 3: So the day after the conference, we got really early
Speaker 3: and went to hike. We wanted to go there. It
Speaker 3: was gorgeous, beautiful day. It was really chilly. It was
Speaker 3: like again the fight. I don't even now, forty forty
Speaker 3: five for northern Forida. It was great. It's perfect weather.
Speaker 3: And man, we found so many things. There were like
Speaker 3: all of these staplings pulled over and pinned down, and
Speaker 3: lots of tree breaks and twists eight nine feet tall,
Speaker 3: and lots of prints, lots of impressions. There's a lot
Speaker 3: of game trails there, so there's a lot of food
Speaker 3: sources in that area. We're on the trail and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden in the distance, we hear this sounded
Speaker 3: like something tapping on something like rock clocking or something.
Speaker 3: Matt had this. He got it at the conference, this
Speaker 3: little wooden bat little tree knocker. He just happened to
Speaker 3: throw it in his backpack, just joking actually, and We
Speaker 3: have about nine minutes of video. Whatever's making this noise,
Speaker 3: whatever it is out there. Matt's kind of knocking on
Speaker 3: a tree in a pattern, and it's doing the pattern
Speaker 3: back to it. Then it would give him a new pattern,
Speaker 3: and then Matt returned their pattern. Matt would do a
Speaker 3: new pattern, and they would return his pattern. This went
Speaker 3: on for about almost ten minutes.
Speaker 1: Here's a little over two minutes of that audio. This
Speaker 1: looks like maybe I didn't tact it, but just cann
Speaker 1: all plug up by that hard to sell true, looks
Speaker 1: like it could be my first some kind.
Speaker 4: Of large animal motive, just not prowing up to me.
Speaker 3: Something smarter enough too.
Speaker 4: I thought I did right after you, Yet it fall too.
Speaker 3: Did you make that song?
Speaker 2: That no on that one?
Speaker 5: He didn't another one?
Speaker 4: Yeah, what the fuck? There's three.
Speaker 3: I heard a whistle honestly to see that happen, and
Speaker 3: we never released it. We both felt some of these
Speaker 3: interactions are just hours so just for us. But right
Speaker 3: after that happened, I was looking in the area I
Speaker 3: call it the wall of fear. It's encoded in your DNA.
Speaker 3: Like we've talked a lot about this weekend about that
Speaker 3: feeling that gut feeling right. So, after this interaction happened,
Speaker 3: I was like trying to find are there any prints
Speaker 3: around here? Is there any other evidence? And I happened
Speaker 3: to look. I walked about I don't know, maybe about
Speaker 3: thirty yards, and I find this cypress tree. It was
Speaker 3: probably about forty foot long, and it's literally wedged in
Speaker 3: between several other cypress trees that are staggered around, like
Speaker 3: all the way down and it's just wedged perfectly in
Speaker 3: between all of these other trees. So I see it,
Speaker 3: I start walking towards it, and the moment I got
Speaker 3: about two feet from it, I start taking photos. I'm
Speaker 3: looking up the heck. Could this have happened naturally? It's
Speaker 3: just not possible. And all of a sudden, I felt nauseous.
Speaker 3: I felt instant fear, instant dread. Oh my god, you're
Speaker 3: in danger. Back up. I took a couple more photos
Speaker 3: and I just backed up. It felt very ominous. I
Speaker 3: can't say if I was in danger. I don't even
Speaker 3: know why I had that feeling. I really have no
Speaker 3: idea what gave me the feeling. But I felt like,
Speaker 3: you are too dangerously close to something, and you need
Speaker 3: to back up. So I don't know what that was,
Speaker 3: but that was an interesting day for sure. Matt and
Speaker 3: I went up to the North Georgia Mountains with a
Speaker 3: friend of ours. This is a very strange encounter she
Speaker 3: took us to at this place. It's a logging road
Speaker 3: and its spirals all the way around a mountain only
Speaker 3: big enough for one vehicle. It took almost forty minutes
Speaker 3: or so to get up there, forty forty five minutes.
Speaker 3: When we get to the top of that mountain, it
Speaker 3: opened up just like this, just like what we have here,
Speaker 3: is opened up into an open field, beautiful open field.
Speaker 3: So we park, we get out. They got out of
Speaker 3: the suv before me. My feet hit the ground and
Speaker 3: I instantly nauseous, and I thought I was going to
Speaker 3: pass out. Instantly. It was like this, I don't know.
Speaker 3: I call it energy, whatever you want to call it.
Speaker 3: I was like, I got to sit down. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 3: I'm mac grab me a chair and I sat down.
Speaker 3: So the three of us were sitting there like in
Speaker 3: a triangle, and I had my eyes closed because I'm
Speaker 3: feeling dizzy ast heck, I don't know what's going on.
Speaker 3: So she says to me, she's like, yeah, I should
Speaker 3: have probably warned you. This is like very high energy area,
Speaker 3: so I know you're sensitive to that. I should have
Speaker 3: warned you a little bit. She goes, is probably why
Speaker 3: you're feeling whey you are. And then all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: we hear a growl and then another growl, and then
Speaker 3: he sees behind her at the same time she sees
Speaker 3: behind him orbs. He sees an orange one, she sees
Speaker 3: a red one, and they're on opposite ends of the
Speaker 3: both sides of the field. They're seeing these things. Now
Speaker 3: I'm not seeing the orbs. I did not see the orbs.
Speaker 3: I want to see an orbit. Never see an orbit.
Speaker 3: They're like, did you see that?
Speaker 1: Oh my gosh.
Speaker 3: They're just talking to each other, and so we're starting
Speaker 3: to have this really cool experience, and all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: out of nowhere, we hear coming towards us this wall
Speaker 3: of rain heading our way. You could hear it was crazy.
Speaker 3: So we were like, oh my gosh, it's a torrential downpour.
Speaker 3: So we pack up really quickly. So we're sitting in
Speaker 3: the car, its pouring down ring and I'm like, listen,
Speaker 3: my SUV doesn't have four wheel drive, right, I'm in Florida.
Speaker 3: I don't even really need four wheel drive, so I'm like,
Speaker 3: I don't want us to get stuck up here. The
Speaker 3: road could get washed out. That was our concerns. So
Speaker 3: we're like, okay, let's head down the road. So we
Speaker 3: start heading down. Like I said, the road kind of
Speaker 3: spirals around the mountain. So as we're coming around one
Speaker 3: of the corners, I'm driving, Matt's in the front seat,
Speaker 3: She's in the back seat, and at the exact same time,
Speaker 3: Matt and I both saw as the headlights come around
Speaker 3: the corner, this huge, gigantic black figure and stay.
Speaker 1: Tuned for more sasquatch out to sea. We'll be right
Speaker 1: back after these messages.
Speaker 3: Just off the road. Standing there, he and I both
Speaker 3: started screaming. The terror that we both felt in that
Speaker 3: moment was just unbelievable. We're literally screaming, Oh my god,
Speaker 3: it's going to catch up to us. I had all
Speaker 3: this fear, and then all of a sudden, Matt says,
Speaker 3: but we're down on We're done. We're done. We're out.
Speaker 3: We're out, We're out, And I'm like, what what are
Speaker 3: you talking about? He goes, Look, we're at the end
Speaker 3: we're here, We're at the end of the road. We're
Speaker 3: at the bottom of the mountain. We're good. And I look
Speaker 3: at him and I said, that cannot be possible. I said,
Speaker 3: we've only been in the car like ten minutes. What
Speaker 3: are you talking about? Come to find out where? Like
Speaker 3: the three of us start talking and looking at watches
Speaker 3: and figuring it. We had thirty minutes a missing time,
Speaker 3: all three of us, all three of us. We got
Speaker 3: back to camp. We sat down at camp, took video
Speaker 3: of all three of us telling the experience from our perspective.
Speaker 3: But I will tell you the creepiest thing, even though
Speaker 3: whatever the hell that was we saw, the weirdest part
Speaker 3: was after So we're all like trying to process just
Speaker 3: what happened to us. We're on the road, we'd just
Speaker 3: come off the mountain. We'd get onto the road. There's
Speaker 3: this craziest thing ever, an owl out of nowhere, this
Speaker 3: white owl. It flies in front of the car with
Speaker 3: its wings outstretched, looking at us. It was like slow motion.
Speaker 3: It was like and we all were like, what the
Speaker 3: heck was that? It was the weird Like I had
Speaker 3: to have been going at least forty forty five miles
Speaker 3: an hour down this road because we're we're like, oh
Speaker 3: my god, what just happened to us? And then it
Speaker 3: was like slow motion Why didn't I hit it? How
Speaker 3: could I have not hit it with my car? Like
Speaker 3: it literally was in front of the windshield, just wings outstretched,
Speaker 3: It's just just glid right past the windshield. We never
Speaker 3: hit it. It was the weirdest saying. It was just odd.
Speaker 3: And I think that was more scary. I think that
Speaker 3: was so weird. It was just the weirdest thing ever.
Speaker 1: It makes me wonder the ORB thing, the owl thing.
Speaker 1: You hear that a lot in UFO, UAP alien technology
Speaker 1: or research is that sometimes these screen memories happen with
Speaker 1: people and there's aliens, these grays whatever you want to
Speaker 1: call them, that are involved, and they give you whatever
Speaker 1: it is that you can handle to shield what's happening
Speaker 1: in the reality, what's really happening and in the moment, Yeah,
Speaker 1: have you considered that maybe you guys had some sort
Speaker 1: of an alien slash UFO kind of experience with the
Speaker 1: orbs in this crazy owl situation?
Speaker 3: Actually? Yes, the night that, like I said, Matt was
Speaker 3: videotaping all three of us talking about our experiences I
Speaker 3: even said, I made the comment, yeah, we need to
Speaker 3: check our bodies, we need to make sure see if
Speaker 3: there's any signs, and we said that. But the funny
Speaker 3: thing was is that we were so exhausted. It felt
Speaker 3: like we were completely depleted. After we talked about our experiences,
Speaker 3: it was like, we need to go to bed, all
Speaker 3: three of us, just like that night just hosted out.
Speaker 3: So we didn't think about it again. We went home.
Speaker 3: The first thing I wanted to do was obviously jump
Speaker 3: in the shower. Had been in the woods for almost
Speaker 3: five days. I'm in the shower and the inside of
Speaker 3: my arm these marks. I sent a photo to our friends.
Speaker 3: It was with us, I'm like, what the hell is this?
Speaker 3: Look at this. Do you guys have any marks? She
Speaker 3: did have a couple of marks, Matt had a couple
Speaker 3: of marks, all three of us, but they were different places.
Speaker 3: It's crazy. So I sent the photo of it. I'll
Speaker 3: see you when we get done. It's literally a constellation
Speaker 3: and they drew the lines off the top of my
Speaker 3: I can't remember what constellation right now, I can't think
Speaker 3: of it, but it did match up. Every single one
Speaker 3: of the marks lined up with a specific constellation. So yeah,
Speaker 3: we've definitely all of us have thought that UFO experiences
Speaker 3: is not out of the box. For me, growing up,
Speaker 3: my mom would quote unquote find me sleepwalking and find
Speaker 3: me outside. I was like seven, eight, nine years old.
Speaker 3: Through the years, she would just say stuff like, yeah,
Speaker 3: she used to sleepwalk, and I don't know how she
Speaker 3: ever unlocked the chain lock at the top of the door,
Speaker 3: because she really couldn't even reach it. Don't know how
Speaker 3: that happened. I must have forgot to lock it that
Speaker 3: night and that's how she got out there. So I've
Speaker 3: had strange stuff like that. So I've had weird experiences
Speaker 3: like UFO experiences, But this one kind of freaked me
Speaker 3: out because it's like missing time. If we had not
Speaker 3: remembered or realized that we had the missing time, it
Speaker 3: wouldn't have bothered me so much. But to know that
Speaker 3: there's a block of time I literally couldn't access with
Speaker 3: my mind and go, Okay, this is what happened. It
Speaker 3: was very unnerving, and that feeling stuck with me for
Speaker 3: a really long time, and for a really long time,
Speaker 3: I just didn't want anything to do with any UFO stuff.
Speaker 3: I just felt too vulnerable. It was crazy. Yeah, so
Speaker 3: we've definitely thought about that.
Speaker 1: Are there any more bigfoot experiences that stuck out with
Speaker 1: the over the years?
Speaker 3: Those are probably the most Those are the ones, yeah,
Speaker 3: that really stick out. Yeah. Have we had things thrown
Speaker 3: at our tents at night? Have we heard whoops?
Speaker 4: Yes?
Speaker 3: Have we heard howls?
Speaker 2: Yes?
Speaker 3: Have we heard trees getting pushed over it? Yes, we've
Speaker 3: had all that. Matt found some hair, We've had some
Speaker 3: people take a look at it, and definitely isn't any
Speaker 3: known Florida's wildlife species. We've found a lot of prints,
Speaker 3: We've seen and found a lot a lot of stuff.
Speaker 3: But those are the ones that really really stick out.
Speaker 1: Yeah, Where are you in your research on these things?
Speaker 1: As far as there's usually camps, everybody plants their flag
Speaker 1: and the flesh and blood or the high strangeness woo camp.
Speaker 1: Some of us live and hover somewhere in the middle.
Speaker 1: Where are you based on your experiences, the things that
Speaker 1: you've seen, the things you've experienced, the people you've talked to.
Speaker 1: You've talked to a ton of people, where are you
Speaker 1: in your research on these things? Do you think? And again,
Speaker 1: it's all subjective. I'm not asking you to plan a
Speaker 1: flag here. But for you, are you open to some
Speaker 1: of the stranger things that people experience and think that
Speaker 1: there may be more to these creatures? Are you strictly
Speaker 1: flesh and blood? Where are you in your journey and
Speaker 1: your research and these things.
Speaker 3: Definitely, when I started on this journey, I definitely was
Speaker 3: a flesh and blood I do think that they are
Speaker 3: flesh and blood. But having somebody paralleg because we have
Speaker 3: had people like paralleling us out you can't see it,
Speaker 3: but you're hearing, there's an explanation to that. There has
Speaker 3: to be. There has to be. I don't necessarily have
Speaker 3: the explanation. I am absolutely not an expert. There is
Speaker 3: no expert in this stuff, but I kind of land
Speaker 3: Like my YouTube channel in the beginning was called the
Speaker 3: Nanoboss Continuum because I feel like all of these things
Speaker 3: are on the continuum and they all somehow are connected.
Speaker 3: I don't know exactly how, but I do think that
Speaker 3: they are connected somehow. Now I also feel that it's
Speaker 3: a phenomena, right, there's a phenomena regarding orbs, all these
Speaker 3: paranormal things. Because we've been in the woods looking for
Speaker 3: Bigfoot and had paranormal experiences we've been in the woods
Speaker 3: and caught EVPs, all of these things. We've had these experiences,
Speaker 3: and they're somehow connected. I don't know exactly how they're connected.
Speaker 3: I really don't. I don't know, but all the people
Speaker 3: I talked to, I've had people tell me that they've
Speaker 3: seen them cloaked, and just because I haven't seen it
Speaker 3: and I haven't experienced it, I can't say that they didn't.
Speaker 3: There have been a couple of things. I was like, oh, hell,
Speaker 3: it's not possible, but then it happened to me, and
Speaker 3: then I'm like, that's possible. So then when that instance happened,
Speaker 3: I was like, I'm just gonna let people very much
Speaker 3: like you, I'm gonna let them tell their story. I
Speaker 3: interviewed a guy who said that a female's asquatch, that
Speaker 3: he saw that she had a third eyelid, that he
Speaker 3: saw it flicker come down, and she was in a
Speaker 3: creek at the time. I've never heard anybody say that before. Never,
Speaker 3: But I did have a guy on one time. I
Speaker 3: interviewed him and he had a dog man experience, and
Speaker 3: he said the same thing about his experience. He said
Speaker 3: it had a third isilid like a dog has a
Speaker 3: third eyelid. I just like, oh, that's interesting. So you
Speaker 3: do see these parallels here and there and some commonalities, right,
Speaker 3: But I always wonder is the phenomena? I don't know,
Speaker 3: does it tickle us a little bit when you're trying
Speaker 3: to not think about it? Hey, I'm over here, Pay
Speaker 3: attention to me, Pay attention to me, pay attention to me.
Speaker 3: I always thinking, he is it trying to get me
Speaker 3: to go in a direction? Is it trying to get
Speaker 3: me to look over here? So yeah, I guess I
Speaker 3: land in the middle. I can't say these things don't
Speaker 3: exist or do exist.
Speaker 1: I think the middle is a beautiful place to be
Speaker 1: before we get out of here. You mentioned your YouTube channel.
Speaker 1: Let's talk a little bit about the YouTube channel, what
Speaker 1: they can expect when they find it, and anything else
Speaker 1: you got going on.
Speaker 3: It's just a nautobuss on YouTube. I haven't really put
Speaker 3: any content out for a while, a little over a year.
Speaker 3: Been having some mouth problems working through all that. But
Speaker 3: on my channel, I've interviewed so many different people, boots
Speaker 3: on the ground researchres like Shane and Randy, a plothora
Speaker 3: of people. Every time I would go to a conference,
Speaker 3: I would talk to the vendors. A lot of the
Speaker 3: vendors have stories, right and encounters, and so there's a
Speaker 3: lot of people that I've just loved to come on
Speaker 3: my channel tell you a story. But I've also interviewed
Speaker 3: this gentleman called Mark Fiortino. I interviewed him twice and
Speaker 3: he's this astrophysicist. He's talking about his life's work on
Speaker 3: the quantum level. I was like, Wow, this is amazing.
Speaker 3: Everybody needs to hear this. And then I've had interviews
Speaker 3: where Alexander Pettakov I had him on. We spent I
Speaker 3: don't know over an hour just talking about drones. I
Speaker 3: wanted to talk to him about drones. How did you
Speaker 3: get this footage? I've had people on where we talk
Speaker 3: about tracking, and we talk about all different kinds of
Speaker 3: things on my channels, there's a variety.
Speaker 1: I like to make it easy for everybody. I will
Speaker 1: put a link to it in the show notes. You guys,
Speaker 1: go over and check out the Nonah Boss on YouTube. No, No,
Speaker 1: thank you so much for spending time with me and
Speaker 1: sharing your experiences. Day have had a blast talking to you.
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