Speaker 1: Hello, and welcome to the Gold, Goats and Guns Podcast
Speaker 1: for September sixth, twenty twenty four. My name is Tom
Speaker 1: Lulongo and we have a lot to talk about. It
Speaker 1: is episode one ninety three, and I have with a
Speaker 1: great pleasure of finally getting a chance to meet someone
Speaker 1: who's work have been following for quite a long time now.
Speaker 1: It's his name is Ben Davidson of Suspicious Observers, and
Speaker 1: we're hoping to get Dave Column along for the ride
Speaker 1: for this podcast. But Dave has not shown up yet.
Speaker 1: I don't know after a while like, well, if Dave
Speaker 1: doesn't show up, well then we will do what we
Speaker 1: normally do when Dave doesn't show up to the Tommy
Speaker 1: Carrigan podcast, well with Jim Kunstler, which is we will
Speaker 1: make terrible fun of him, and we will, you know,
Speaker 1: imply that he has sex with farm animals and stuff
Speaker 1: will be great. But that being said, what's bring Ben in?
Speaker 1: And and Ben, nice to meet you finally again. Like
Speaker 1: I said, big fan of your work, and thank you
Speaker 1: for taking the time.
Speaker 2: I appreciate the invitation. I'm happy to be here, and
Speaker 2: I do not have sex with farm.
Speaker 1: Animals, unlike Dave Collin and Jim Kuntler. It's fine, exactly good.
Speaker 1: Be a good sport for taking care of that. It
Speaker 1: is a tradition. Actually, I'm the we call it the
Speaker 1: bald Ones. We do a four way all the time
Speaker 1: and whenever somebody leaves the room, bad things occur to
Speaker 1: their reputation. So with that said, so Ben, you know,
Speaker 1: I I forgot you know. It's funny, I am, you know.
Speaker 1: I I'm not sure what it was, but I tagged
Speaker 1: you one day or I tried tagging you one day
Speaker 1: on Twitter about something that was going on, and lo
Speaker 1: and behold you responded, which was very cool. So I said, well,
Speaker 1: what's like, what's this forged relationship? Let's just have a conversation.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I think for the most part,
Speaker 1: certainly within my audience, everybody knows who you are. But
Speaker 1: what I'd like to do is, you know, give yourself,
Speaker 1: give people a little of the background of what you do,
Speaker 1: what suspicious Observer is, and what the purpose of all
Speaker 1: of this is, and what we're worried about, because ultimately
Speaker 1: this is we're gonna talk in terms today of the
Speaker 1: answer the general anxiety about what's going on in the
Speaker 1: world and Ben has a unique view on it, so
Speaker 1: I like to like start it there.
Speaker 2: Well, sure, I have a YouTube channel called Suspicious Observers
Speaker 2: and it is uh. It is a daily show that
Speaker 2: covers a few different things.
Speaker 3: Every day. We cover what the Sun is doing.
Speaker 2: That's sun spots, solar flares, anything it's.
Speaker 3: Throwing in Earth's direction.
Speaker 2: We also tend to cover big earthquakes, big volcanoes, big
Speaker 2: weather events, but also science news that is coming out,
Speaker 2: and specifically we like to focus on science that's related to.
Speaker 3: The ongoing magnetic.
Speaker 2: Pul shift of the planet and things that are related
Speaker 2: to that. A lot of people have heard of it,
Speaker 2: a lot of people have not heard of it. Very
Speaker 2: few people have a solid grasp on just how significant
Speaker 2: of an event this is and just how just how
Speaker 2: rapidly everything is progressing right now, And even fewer people
Speaker 2: have an idea as to how this actually relates to
Speaker 2: the political, economic, and cultural clown world that we are
Speaker 2: living in at the moment.
Speaker 3: But they are in fact all tied together. Shockingly enough.
Speaker 1: Again, Well, it's you know, it's funny you say that.
Speaker 1: And when I first encountered your work on it, probably
Speaker 1: five years ago, four or five years ago now and
Speaker 1: we started going to go through. So I have a
Speaker 1: background in chemistry and electricity and magnetism, all this stuff.
Speaker 1: So when I'm watching, when I was watching your channel,
Speaker 1: like the science and the and and the physics, it
Speaker 1: seems sound to me. When I was first introduced to
Speaker 1: concepts such as the global electric circuit and how space weather,
Speaker 1: or how the Sun's output impacts the magnetic field impacts
Speaker 1: the entire Earth, it makes sense. I understand magnetic induction.
Speaker 1: I understood understood all those things, and I'm like, well,
Speaker 1: we all and so for you to say something like
Speaker 1: all of these ideas, right, these these these these problems
Speaker 1: that we're seeing socially, politically and whatnot, are all tied
Speaker 1: to what the change is now put in the sun
Speaker 1: and the changes that are recurring within the Earth itself.
Speaker 1: They make sense because everything within this system evolved within
Speaker 1: that regular cyclical shift in our position within the universe itself.
Speaker 1: So to me, I always made perfect sense. So this
Speaker 1: is why I continue to listen. I can not only
Speaker 1: just continue to listen to your work, but to kind
Speaker 1: of integrate it a little bit on what I see
Speaker 1: on a regular basis. So when I see all these
Speaker 1: other things happening. I'm like, well, you know, everyone's going
Speaker 1: mad because everything else is going mad.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say that everything going mad is probably
Speaker 2: a pretty good description of it. The underlying I'm sorry,
Speaker 2: I was gonna say, the underlying reason a lot of
Speaker 2: the things that are happening is hour and control on
Speaker 2: behalf of a few people. They are trying to grab
Speaker 2: as much power, control resources as humanly possible through policies,
Speaker 2: through the destruction of freedom, the destruction of traditions, history, cultures.
Speaker 3: Things like that. And what's interesting is, you.
Speaker 2: Know, for those who have been watching, let's say somebody,
Speaker 2: just to give an example, somebody like Alice Jones, you
Speaker 2: know that these things have been happening for many, many years,
Speaker 2: decades even, but it was always very slow, very incremental.
Speaker 2: Despite how evil these actors seem, we've got to give
Speaker 2: credit where it's due. They've had an incredible amount of
Speaker 2: patience and careful planning and having things go step by
Speaker 2: step in a way that really flies under the radar
Speaker 2: to the point where the vast majority of people don't
Speaker 2: even know what's happening.
Speaker 3: That's not the case anymore.
Speaker 2: Things are going haywire so quickly that it's obvious they
Speaker 2: don't care if some people wake up to this fact.
Speaker 2: They're not trying to hide anything. And now they are being,
Speaker 2: you know, somewhat reckless as opposed to ultra slow and
Speaker 2: patient and careful. They're being reckless because they know there's
Speaker 2: no time for reckoning. They are being utterly blatant, moving
Speaker 2: as fast as they can, spending like there's no tomorrow,
Speaker 2: because they know that on a certain medium level timeline
Speaker 2: there isn't one.
Speaker 1: And.
Speaker 2: The goal is for them to get as much resources,
Speaker 2: power control as possible when this event, this natural event,
Speaker 2: actually takes place, with the idea that they would be
Speaker 2: in the most advantageous position in the aftermath to basically
Speaker 2: sit atop the pyramid once again in what I've described
Speaker 2: will be the new age of Earth. And you know,
Speaker 2: it's the kind of thing where, unless you put it
Speaker 2: all under that kind of umbrella, where there's this bigger
Speaker 2: goal and there's a reason for this haste on their part,
Speaker 2: it's hard to necessarily understand at all why the entire
Speaker 2: world has gotten so crazy so quickly.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it's funny you put it in those because I
Speaker 1: as you were talking, was I say, it's funny it's
Speaker 1: interesting that you put it in those terms, and it's
Speaker 1: because it's very consistent with the way you present your
Speaker 1: material at suspecifics nervers, which is that, oh, we're running
Speaker 1: up against a a natural event that could that it
Speaker 1: is very likely to be catastrophic. Whether you I'm going
Speaker 1: to play a little bit of Devil's advocate here, okay,
Speaker 1: whether you believe that the catastrophe is going to exist,
Speaker 1: going to happen as in what Ben is saying is correct,
Speaker 1: as you believe it, you don't have to, but I'm
Speaker 1: not here to in any way, matter shape or form
Speaker 1: to throw shade on that. What I'm saying is I'm
Speaker 1: just running an intellectual exercise here, which is to say, look,
Speaker 1: you know, that's one way of describing their behavior what
Speaker 1: Ben just put forth, and you know it is a
Speaker 1: and from that perspective, it's perfectly valid. Like if they
Speaker 1: understand it that this is coming, then they would be acting.
Speaker 1: This is exactly the way they would be acting. I've
Speaker 1: taken the the position that all that's, all those systems
Speaker 1: that they put in place, all those people they bought,
Speaker 1: all those all that bureaucracy they put in place, and
Speaker 1: all the rest of it has reached its lifespan, just
Speaker 1: its natural lifespan, regardless of the solar the potential for
Speaker 1: a solar physics catastrophe, saying we just it's just the
Speaker 1: natural lifespan of these types of systems. And eventually the
Speaker 1: law in economic terms, the law of diminishing marginal utility,
Speaker 1: you know, says that we we all turn around and go, look,
Speaker 1: this isn't benefiting us anymore, y'all, you know, And then
Speaker 1: the natural state for them is to say, well, once
Speaker 1: we start to rebel against it, for them to clamp
Speaker 1: down even harder, and then it just becomes this this
Speaker 1: ever escalating feedback effect of them trying to clamp down
Speaker 1: what we tried to keep trying to say no. But
Speaker 1: when you so so and I and that's one another
Speaker 1: way of looking at it. So what I'm saying here
Speaker 1: is that it's it would be an it's an interesting
Speaker 1: way of looking at it from two different perspectives getting
Speaker 1: to the same result. And it may be partially both
Speaker 1: of those things happening at the same time, I guess,
Speaker 1: is where I'm getting As like, these two distinct rationales
Speaker 1: for their behavior could easily be a marriage of these
Speaker 1: two perspectives, I guess is what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 1: What do you think about that?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Certainly, and given the meticulous and long term nature and
Speaker 2: complexity of their plans, who's to say it's not.
Speaker 3: Both right now?
Speaker 1: Uh?
Speaker 2: And that that would make quite quite a good bit
Speaker 2: of sense.
Speaker 3: I look at the way that.
Speaker 2: Government are spending money, I look the way billionaires are
Speaker 2: building bunkers, and it's kind of uh impossible for me
Speaker 2: to believe that the former is not a major part
Speaker 2: of it, though I could see how I could see
Speaker 2: how the latter deserves some credit for the current state
Speaker 2: of the world that we're in as well.
Speaker 1: Sure, yeah, I mean, I know, I agree. I again,
Speaker 1: I'm just playing Devil's out of you here, that could
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't me personally my personal opinion here
Speaker 1: it is the marriage both like I have been, you know,
Speaker 1: the work that you've done over Sussius Observers and the
Speaker 1: and the information that you presented and the way you've
Speaker 1: presented it. And I've talked to other people. I have
Speaker 1: friends and patrons who are heavily into astrology, and and
Speaker 1: they're all saying the same thing, in many in their
Speaker 1: idiom that you're saying in yours and I'm saying in mind,
Speaker 1: like it winds up being and and when you when
Speaker 1: you look at it from those different perspectives and they're
Speaker 1: all lining up together, and then you think about, Okay, well,
Speaker 1: this is the system we all grew up in, this
Speaker 1: is the system we all evolved within. And the evidence
Speaker 1: and I want you to go into some of the
Speaker 1: some of the sicklic nature of what you're you know,
Speaker 1: we're talking about here, because I think we've kind of
Speaker 1: gotten ahead of ourselves and we haven't like laid out
Speaker 1: some of the groundwork, like talk about the twelve thousand
Speaker 1: year disaster cycle and how how we move through where
Speaker 1: we are in the in the relatives in the relative
Speaker 1: position of the of the galactic ecliptic, and all of
Speaker 1: those things, because I think it's all valid now, I
Speaker 1: think it's all interesting.
Speaker 2: Sure, Well, I like to break this up into two parts. Okay,
Speaker 2: one is the relatively certain information and what it means
Speaker 2: for us here on Earth, and the other one is
Speaker 2: the best gases on some of the details based on
Speaker 2: the evidence that we have to work.
Speaker 3: With the tools in the toolbox. So here's what we
Speaker 3: know for certain.
Speaker 2: There is a major magnetic event on the planet every
Speaker 2: twelve thousand years. There's a minor one on the half
Speaker 2: point every six thousand years in between, and it's a
Speaker 2: magnetic pole shift, the geomagnetic excursion, a.
Speaker 3: Rapid poll flip.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of different names for it, but essentially
Speaker 2: that's what we're talking about. During this time, the magnetic
Speaker 2: poles begin to move, and the magnetic field that protects
Speaker 2: the Earth from the sun, cosmic rays, supernova, gamma ray bursts,
Speaker 2: all of those scary energetic things from space begins to
Speaker 2: weaken at the exact same time. This is the effect
Speaker 2: of really changing the environment of our planet in a
Speaker 2: number of different ways, which I'll get to in just
Speaker 2: a moment. So the last mini half cycle event was
Speaker 2: six thousand years ago. The last major event was twelve
Speaker 2: thousand years ago. There was a mini event six thousand
Speaker 2: years before that at eighteen thousand years ago, a major
Speaker 2: event at twenty four thousand years ago. And this goes
Speaker 2: back pretty much as far as the geology will let
Speaker 2: us look at it. They're much harder to identify when
Speaker 2: you get back past about sixty thousand years, but we
Speaker 2: know that this cycle has existed pretty pretty perfectly, and
Speaker 2: some of the really strong events that happened before sixty
Speaker 2: thousand years ago where those are dated to, would line
Speaker 2: up with the cycle, even though some of the ones
Speaker 2: in between where aren't really easily noticed.
Speaker 3: So essentially, last.
Speaker 2: Major event was twelve thousand years ago, last many events
Speaker 2: six thousand years ago.
Speaker 1: It is the.
Speaker 2: Exact time for another one of these things to be happening.
Speaker 2: And what do we see on the planet right now?
Speaker 2: The magnetic poles are moving and they are speeding up
Speaker 2: faster and faster. The magnetic field of our planet, our
Speaker 2: protection is weakening faster and faster.
Speaker 3: That's accelerating as well, and so.
Speaker 2: That's one of those things that's likely not a coincidence.
Speaker 2: The exact time we would be expecting this major magnetic
Speaker 2: event to be happening on the planet, and we are
Speaker 2: seeing the exact things we would be expecting to see,
Speaker 2: and not just with the magnetic poles and overall strength
Speaker 2: of the magnetic field, but different layers of the atmosphere,
Speaker 2: including the very top layer of the atmosphere, which is
Speaker 2: called the ionosphere.
Speaker 3: We are seeing it.
Speaker 2: In the crust, in the mantle, and arguably even all
Speaker 2: the way down to some of the activity in Earth's core,
Speaker 2: and so we are literally seeing every sign that this
Speaker 2: is happening again now at the exact time that it
Speaker 2: would be expected in terms of the cycle. Now, what
Speaker 2: does this mean for our planet? Pretty much all of
Speaker 2: the recent studies on this are saying the exact same thing.
Speaker 2: This is a very significant event for the planet, both
Speaker 2: in terms of radiation and in terms of the climate.
Speaker 2: So the loss of the magnetic field, the first thing
Speaker 2: it does is it lets in all those scary things
Speaker 2: from space to a higher degree than we are used
Speaker 2: to them, penetrating into the atmosphere and all the way
Speaker 2: down to ground level, and so anywhere from sixty percent
Speaker 2: to two hundred percent more radiation from the Sun, from
Speaker 2: cosmic rays and other things like that. This has a
Speaker 2: critical impact on our DNA. This has a critical impact
Speaker 2: on cellular processes, on brain function, on our cardiac system,
Speaker 2: pretty much everything. For those who know a bit about biology,
Speaker 2: there's very little in the in our bodies that isn't
Speaker 2: an ion mediated process. And what that means is there's
Speaker 2: a charged particle that's involved. That's where the term electro
Speaker 2: light comes from. Electro whether it's magnesium sodium, calcium, you
Speaker 2: know these things how.
Speaker 3: Our body works.
Speaker 1: Yeah, absolutely, I'm sorry I didn't, but just a remind
Speaker 1: everybody we are electrical creatures like ore everything as a
Speaker 1: as a forty five of your bench chemist. And this
Speaker 1: is part of the reason why really wanted to have
Speaker 1: Dave Colum in here today that did to talk about
Speaker 1: this in these terms, like we are electrical creatures like
Speaker 1: our our our hearts beat on a sin this rhythm,
Speaker 1: which is it's it's it's incredibly important that we are
Speaker 1: an electrical balance. And if there are things that are
Speaker 1: if there are external events that are impacting the way
Speaker 1: we you know, way we internally move electrons through the
Speaker 1: body and affect our own internal circuits, that's going to
Speaker 1: have an effect on our physiology. There's this, and there's
Speaker 1: and probably the heart is probably the most I would
Speaker 1: think just a priori is the thing that is the
Speaker 1: most vulnerable to this.
Speaker 2: It's certainly, you know, in a very close second place
Speaker 2: would be processes in the brain, you know, from cognitive
Speaker 2: to emotional. Most people know that, you know, radiation can
Speaker 2: damage DNA and cause newtions, cause cancer, things like that,
Speaker 2: but a lot of them don't know that it can
Speaker 2: affect our mitochondria, It can affect our energy levels. It
Speaker 2: can affect the oxygen levels in the blood and how
Speaker 2: well the oxygen is transported around. It can affect liver
Speaker 2: and kidney function, thyroid function. Basically, there's almost nothing in
Speaker 2: the human body that can't be affected by this radiation.
Speaker 3: So that's number one. That's the first thing that happens.
Speaker 2: The other thing is this extra radiation has a pretty
Speaker 2: powerful impact on the ozone and so we see extra
Speaker 2: ozone destruction during this time. That allows ultraviolet light to
Speaker 2: reach the surface, further enhancing the radiation issues. But this
Speaker 2: extra ultraviolet radiation and the extra radiation itself messes with
Speaker 2: something called the global atmosphere ic electric circuit. This affects
Speaker 2: everything from major oscillations like Al Nino and La Nina
Speaker 2: to individual cloud structures. Clouds come together because of electrostatic
Speaker 2: attraction between water, vapor, dust particles, et cetera. And so
Speaker 2: having this electromagnetic radiation entering the Earth system impacts precipitation,
Speaker 2: It impacts lightning, it impacts storms, hurricanes, and this applies
Speaker 2: to both rain and snow, and so we have a
Speaker 2: major radiation intake for our bodies ourselves at the exact
Speaker 2: same time that the climate is changing pretty significantly. And
Speaker 2: on top of that, the number of animals that use
Speaker 2: the magnetic field we're talking about this is a lot
Speaker 2: more than just birds here in their seasonal migrations. Tons
Speaker 2: of marine creatures from sharks, whales, different kinds of fish,
Speaker 2: sea turtles. It impacts phytoplankton, chlorophyll, land mammals like deer
Speaker 2: and rabbits, insects, plants from seed to flowering. All of
Speaker 2: these things are affected by magnetic fields. And so we
Speaker 2: have animal navigation, whether that's from migration for it, in
Speaker 2: the case of salmon and many other creatures finding their
Speaker 2: mating locations.
Speaker 3: That is getting.
Speaker 2: Screwed up at the same time as we're taking in
Speaker 2: more radiation into our bodies at the exact same time
Speaker 2: that the climate is going haywire. And it is the
Speaker 2: combination of these events during these magnetic shifts on the
Speaker 2: planet that have caused so many sciences recently. In those papers,
Speaker 2: I was mentioning to outright call this an extinction event
Speaker 2: for many species. One of the best papers on this
Speaker 2: was from twenty nineteen, and they basically were tracking all
Speaker 2: of the megafauna extinctions that were known, and they found
Speaker 2: that they kept being grouped at these twelve thousand year marks,
Speaker 2: and you know, twelve thousand years ago, twenty four thousand
Speaker 2: years ago, thirty six thousand years ago, forty eight thousand
Speaker 2: years ago, right at the exact same time as these
Speaker 2: magnetics were happening on the planet. And so just to
Speaker 2: quickly summarize what we've said so far, is this is
Speaker 2: a pretty perfect cycle going back. As long as the
Speaker 2: geologic evidence will allow us to look, we are perfectly
Speaker 2: due in.
Speaker 3: Time for this thing to happen. Again.
Speaker 2: Everything you would expect to say if it was happening
Speaker 2: is happening. And this is a very very significant event
Speaker 2: for the bias sphere, the life on Earth, from microbes
Speaker 2: all the way up to humans, elephants, whales, things like that.
Speaker 3: You know, it's.
Speaker 2: Pretty well known that if you disrupt the food chain anywhere,
Speaker 2: it has major effects up and down the food chain,
Speaker 2: and we're talking about something that impacts the food chain
Speaker 2: significantly in you know, thousands of different places. There's nothing
Speaker 2: on Earth that isn't going to be affected by this,
Speaker 2: and so that is that is sort of the the
Speaker 2: relatively definitive. You can't blow any holes in it. Facts
Speaker 2: about what we're going through, and so I would say
Speaker 2: that's part one the fact that we're doing time. We're
Speaker 2: seeing it happen now, and this is very, very bad news.
Speaker 2: Now we actually have a tiny bit more bad news
Speaker 2: this cycle that didn't exist in previous cycles because humans
Speaker 2: are so dependent on electricity, and unfortunately, one of the
Speaker 2: things the magnetic field does is while it is blocking
Speaker 2: out the dangerous radiation from the Sun, it's also keeping
Speaker 2: safe all of the electronics on Earth. For those who
Speaker 2: have ever heard about the Carrington Event, a major solar
Speaker 2: flare in eighteen fifty nine set telegraph wires on fire,
Speaker 2: set telegraph offices on fire. It shocked telegraph operators. In
Speaker 2: nineteen twenty one, it electrically shut down the.
Speaker 3: New York Railroad.
Speaker 2: In two thousand and three, it blew several transformers in Scandinavia,
Speaker 2: and nineteen eighty nine it took out power to the
Speaker 2: entire province of Quebec. As the magnetic field weakens, the
Speaker 2: entire Earth is going to be vulnerable to these things.
Speaker 2: And while all of that other stuff I talked about
Speaker 2: is going on, imagine we lose global power. There's no
Speaker 2: food chains supply, you know, there's no transporting food around.
Speaker 2: There's no water purification, there's no water distribution to the
Speaker 2: to the tap, there's no nine to one one. There's
Speaker 2: no gasoline, there's no ATMs, there's no refrigeration, there's no
Speaker 2: air conditioning, there's no heat, there's no internet. There's just
Speaker 2: all of us back in nature without any of the
Speaker 2: infrastructure systems. And so this is about as significant as
Speaker 2: it gets, not to mention, you know, some of the
Speaker 2: other things that you start to think about later, like Okay,
Speaker 2: what happens when all the nuclear power plants in the
Speaker 2: world lose power at the exact same time. And so
Speaker 2: this is something that is not anywhere near talked about
Speaker 2: as much as it should be.
Speaker 1: But yes, I say, as you were going through that list,
Speaker 1: I kept I keep flashing back to the to the
Speaker 1: conversation I've been having with my partnered extra wife for
Speaker 1: twenty twenty five years now, which is that, you know,
Speaker 1: because we refuse to deal properly with our nuclear waste,
Speaker 1: we have been sitting in pools being run by diesel
Speaker 1: generators that every time there's a hurricane, there's always a
Speaker 1: potential for you know, in Farida, there's always a potential
Speaker 1: for uh, you know, a potential nuclear mountdown because you know,
Speaker 1: if this, if we have the cascading effects of complexity
Speaker 1: collapse in a society, even if we don't have even
Speaker 1: if we don't have a Carrington ben like our Carrington
Speaker 1: plus event or whatever you want to call it, even
Speaker 1: if that doesn't happen, and I and I want you
Speaker 1: to speak to you know what you think the best
Speaker 1: guesses is to when and how and all of that stuff.
Speaker 1: I'm up. I mean, I for the most part, I
Speaker 1: know what your answers are. But what I'm getting out
Speaker 1: here is that even if that doesn't happen, the amount
Speaker 1: of pressure that you're describing and we have to like
Speaker 1: take into our account here on the systems, that's the
Speaker 1: systems themselves are to the point, and we have crazy
Speaker 1: freaking oligarchs trying to arrogate power and what's left to
Speaker 1: themselves and bring it and take it for themselves and
Speaker 1: decomplexify society like the whole thing starts to collapse. We
Speaker 1: could we don't even need the Carrington event to have
Speaker 1: this be a civilizational event, is.
Speaker 2: What I'm definitely there's no doubt about that. I mean,
Speaker 2: this is bad even before I got to the electrical
Speaker 2: issues with our technology, right you know, from the health,
Speaker 2: climatological and magnetic navigational issues that are going to be
Speaker 2: hitting every creature and cascading up and down the food chain.
Speaker 3: This is this is very serious.
Speaker 2: And so this is one of the things I'm focused on.
Speaker 2: Based on the math of how it's been accelerating, it's
Speaker 2: looking like this is going to come to a head
Speaker 2: either in the twenty thirties or twenty forties. I know
Speaker 2: people want to hear exact dates or exact years and
Speaker 2: other things like that. That's that's not really something that's
Speaker 2: possible mathematically and scientifically we can give that window of
Speaker 2: a range. But you know, this is us, our children,
Speaker 2: our grandchildren. It's important and it needs to be understood
Speaker 2: and prepared for in ways that I'm just not seeing
Speaker 2: in the world right now, which is scary.
Speaker 1: It is scary so and and to so be before
Speaker 1: we go any further, let's before we go any further,
Speaker 1: let's explain to people we're talking about what's happening here.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to the the the X class solar
Speaker 1: fliers we had back in May where we had everybody
Speaker 1: was like getting together and having watch parties with the
Speaker 1: Aurora and you know Florida, Like really, that's not that's
Speaker 1: not good, guys. I remember watching that going yeah, okay,
Speaker 1: like part of my part of the nagging skepticism, and
Speaker 1: I will be honest at some of my skepticism has
Speaker 1: been sitting there out there for years now, and that
Speaker 1: event just that was it. I'm like, I'm done, No, sorry,
Speaker 1: I can't. I can't do this anymore. I can't deny
Speaker 1: this anymore, or even just remain skeptical about it. So
Speaker 1: talk about what the actual mechanism for, like how the
Speaker 1: character event happened, and then and then explain go through
Speaker 1: the process of explaining why it's worse now. Sure, say
Speaker 1: back in eighteen fifty nine, Sure, So.
Speaker 2: What happened back in eighteen fifty nine is a massive
Speaker 2: solar flare, probably at a rating of what we call
Speaker 2: about X eighty. Okay, and I'll get to these rating
Speaker 2: scales in a bit. Okay, approximate X eighty solar flare
Speaker 2: launched a ton of charged plasma towards the Earth. When
Speaker 2: it hit the Earth, this plasma did two things it
Speaker 2: penetrated down through the atmosphere, causing an ambient electric charge
Speaker 2: to amplify in the atmosphere, and it also lit up
Speaker 2: the auroras, the Northern Lights and the Southern lights to
Speaker 2: such a degree that they actually induced electric current through
Speaker 2: the crust and through the lower atmosphere.
Speaker 3: Now, the combination of those two.
Speaker 2: Electrical effects is what set telegraph wires on fire. It's
Speaker 2: what blew the transformers in Quebec and in Scandinavia. And
Speaker 2: essentially scientists know that if something like that were to
Speaker 2: happen again, it could take.
Speaker 3: Out global power.
Speaker 2: And when that happens and it's out everywhere and nobody
Speaker 2: can really come to help because they're dealing with their
Speaker 2: own situations, we could be talking years to decades without power,
Speaker 2: at which point to ninety five percent of the world
Speaker 2: could dot while we're waiting for power.
Speaker 1: To come back.
Speaker 2: What happened in May of this year was very, very similar.
Speaker 3: But it really really shouldn't have been.
Speaker 2: One of the best ways to gauge how big of
Speaker 2: a whack the Earth takes from the Sun is to
Speaker 2: see where the auroras, the Northern and Southern lights are
Speaker 2: visible from, and this time they were visible from Puerto Rico,
Speaker 2: which hadn't happened since eighteen fifty nine in the Carrington event,
Speaker 2: and they were visible in the South Pacific in regions
Speaker 2: that didn't even see them during the Carrington event. And
Speaker 2: so from an earth whack perspective, we took almost as
Speaker 2: great of a hit as we did back then. The
Speaker 2: problem is this was an X one, an X two,
Speaker 2: and an X three solar flare. We're talking orders of
Speaker 2: magnitude smaller than what happened in eighteen fifty nine, and
Speaker 2: yet it created almost the same effect here on Earth.
Speaker 2: And this was something that we had actually been monitoring
Speaker 2: for quite some time. That we see what the Sun does,
Speaker 2: We know the power of what the Sun throws at Earth,
Speaker 2: but the way the Earth reacts to it, the hit
Speaker 2: that the Earth is taking is far more than we've
Speaker 2: been expecting. And this has probably happened two or three
Speaker 2: dozen times over the last couple of years. And the
Speaker 2: reason it's happening is because our magnetic field, our magnetic
Speaker 2: protection from the Sun, is weakening, so less and less
Speaker 2: from the Sun is able to do more and more
Speaker 2: here on Earth.
Speaker 3: And we actually.
Speaker 2: We had been suggesting that that was the case for
Speaker 2: about eighteen months, and then earlier this year. It was
Speaker 2: actually in April one of the best geophysical scientists in
Speaker 2: Russia came out and said that one of the strongest
Speaker 2: accelerations in this process took place in March of twenty
Speaker 2: twenty three, which really explained how big of a jump
Speaker 2: things were taking in terms of the Sun impacting the Earth.
Speaker 2: And what we are seeing now is that, you know,
Speaker 2: if we started to lose the magnetic field at a
Speaker 2: significant rate in the middle of the eighteen hundreds, about
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty years later, the year two thousand,
Speaker 2: we had lost about ten percent. They upgraded that number
Speaker 2: to fifteen percent just ten years later in twenty ten,
Speaker 2: and here in twenty twenty four were probably down around
Speaker 2: thirty percent now, so we've lost about twenty percent in
Speaker 2: the last twenty four years after losing ten percent over
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty years. This is a significant acceleration
Speaker 2: and it actually matches the acceleration of the movement of
Speaker 2: the magnetic poles as well. And so what we're seeing
Speaker 2: is a rapid acceleration towards a breaking point that again
Speaker 2: based on where we were at various times over the
Speaker 2: last several decades to maybe century or so, and some
Speaker 2: of the accelerations that have taken place, and the frequency
Speaker 2: with which these accelerations are taking place about every seven
Speaker 2: years or so, that this should really be hitting a
Speaker 2: critical point in the twenty thirties or twenty forties to where,
Speaker 2: you know, we might not need a Carrington event now. Granted,
Speaker 2: geology says Carrington level solar flares happen about every one
Speaker 2: hundred and fifty to two hundred years, so with the
Speaker 2: last one being one hundred and sixty five years years ago,
Speaker 2: we're in the red zone for another one. But as
Speaker 2: we saw in May, it's not going to take something
Speaker 2: that powerful to have the same level of effect here
Speaker 2: on Earth. You know, we're down twenty five thirty percent
Speaker 2: of the magnetic field. What happens when we're down fifty percent?
Speaker 2: What happens when we're down by seventy percent? Something very
Speaker 2: small from the Sun could act like something huge, like
Speaker 2: a superflare.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 2: Those electrical problems that we were mentioning a few minutes ago,
Speaker 2: those are looking relatively certain.
Speaker 3: From the loss of power.
Speaker 2: To the twoes with nuclear all of that stuff is
Speaker 2: looking more and more likely because of how vulnerable Earth
Speaker 2: is It's kind of like, you know, Okay, in eighteen
Speaker 2: fifty nine, we were in a boxing match where our
Speaker 2: opponent was wearing gloves and we were wearing a helmet. Okay,
Speaker 2: now we're still in a box match, but we don't
Speaker 2: have a helmet, and one of his gloves came off,
Speaker 2: and its actual, you know, knuckle bone hitting us as
Speaker 2: opposed to hitting the helmet. You know, when the magnetic
Speaker 2: field decreases even further, you know, it's like you've handed
Speaker 2: the other box or a baseball bat and you still
Speaker 2: don't have your helmet. And so that's a good way
Speaker 2: of thinking about the vulnerability.
Speaker 3: You know, Okay, if.
Speaker 2: You're in a boxing match, you're wearing a helmet, your
Speaker 2: opponent has boxing gloves, you can still get knocked out,
Speaker 2: but boy is that going to take a big punch.
Speaker 2: If you don't have a helmet and they don't have gloves,
Speaker 2: and moreover, they have a baseball bat, it's much easier
Speaker 2: to knock you out, isn't it. And so that's basically
Speaker 2: what we're looking at in terms of the risk of
Speaker 2: lose of a global e MP from the sun.
Speaker 3: In the years ahead.
Speaker 2: And you know, this could happen before the magnetic flip
Speaker 2: actually occurs. You know, what May told us was that, hey,
Speaker 2: look if that had been just a little bit bigger,
Speaker 2: we could.
Speaker 3: Have lost global power.
Speaker 2: And then we're basically back to the Stone Age waiting
Speaker 2: for the magnetic pulse shift to occur. And so it's
Speaker 2: sort of like a multiple series of disasters that that
Speaker 2: you could be looking at there.
Speaker 1: Okay, So what I want to do here is is okay,
Speaker 1: so what I want to what I want to do
Speaker 1: here is to think of this in again in terms
Speaker 1: of so people have an understanding of why there can't
Speaker 1: be a uh, you can't put a specific time on things,
Speaker 1: and that's simply because we don't know what the sun
Speaker 1: is going to do. So then we have the question
Speaker 1: that is the Sun going into a quiescent period or
Speaker 1: is the Sun amping up its uh, you know, it's activity,
Speaker 1: you know. And then the other thing I want to uh,
Speaker 1: the ask is what do you think I'm not sure
Speaker 1: because I'm not actually sure I know the answer to this.
Speaker 1: So what do you think is actually causing the magnetic
Speaker 1: field itself? Two? We I mean, I know it's a
Speaker 1: cyclic thing, it does it, But do we understand we
Speaker 1: have a good understanding as to what does the literature
Speaker 1: have a good understanding as to why it does this? Yes, so.
Speaker 3: There's a really.
Speaker 2: Thorough and evidence based explanation that initially hits everybody as wow,
Speaker 2: what and let me start this way. Sure, in addition
Speaker 2: to there being major climate and magnetic changes on this cycle,
Speaker 2: they notice that there seems to be a major super
Speaker 2: flair and we're talking one hundred times bigger than the
Speaker 2: Carrington event in eighteen fifty nine, about every six thousand
Speaker 2: years as well. Now, normally the first thing someone thinks is, Okay, well,
Speaker 2: the Sun is big, the Sun is powerful. If it
Speaker 2: puts out a superflair, let's just blame that. The problem is,
Speaker 2: this event has been happening on Earth since the middle
Speaker 2: of the eighteen fifties. It's not a momentary event.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 2: The actual the fact that a superflair happens at the
Speaker 2: same time as these magnetic changes, at the same time
Speaker 2: as these climate changes, at the same time as these extinctions.
Speaker 3: It's solid.
Speaker 2: But they can't be considered causal. And what that means
Speaker 2: is something has to be affecting the Earth and the
Speaker 2: Sun on this cycle. So what's interesting is you look
Speaker 2: at the Sun right now, and its atmospheric chemistry is changing.
Speaker 2: There's more helium being produced, there is more dust accumulating
Speaker 2: at the top of the Sun's atmosphere, which we call
Speaker 2: the corona, and its magnetic fields are changing as well
Speaker 2: in ways that are unexpected.
Speaker 3: And haven't been seen before.
Speaker 2: But it's not just the Earth and the Sun having
Speaker 2: magnetic changes and changes to its atmosphere. We're seeing these
Speaker 2: on all of the planets in the Solar System, and
Speaker 2: we're seeing it in interplanetary space as well. So the
Speaker 2: one planet we don't really have good information on is Mercury.
Speaker 2: Now we're about to when the BEPI Colombo satellite mission
Speaker 2: starts sending back data in the coming months and coming years,
Speaker 2: we'll be able to gauge how its magnetic field is
Speaker 2: doing compared to what another mission, the Messenger mission, gave
Speaker 2: us about a decade decad and a half ago. But
Speaker 2: we know for a fact that the winds at Venus
Speaker 2: are speeding up very quickly. We know that Mars has
Speaker 2: experienced greater climate change than the Earth has, and pretty
Speaker 2: radical seismic activity on Mars as well, And to top
Speaker 2: it all off, they now believe Mars mantle is active,
Speaker 2: that it's not a dead planet, and they go through
Speaker 2: this very long winded explanation for why they got it
Speaker 2: wrong before and why they thought it was a dead
Speaker 2: planet and all that. The thing is, I don't think
Speaker 2: they got it wrong before. I think it was dead
Speaker 2: and the planet is just waking back up. Jupiter's magnetic
Speaker 2: field is changing, the Great Red Spot is diminishing, and
Speaker 2: there are storm anomalies all across Jupiter. Saturn has major
Speaker 2: storm anomalies. You're in a sineptune have both storm anomalies
Speaker 2: and auroral anomalies, their version of the Northern lights and
Speaker 2: Southern lights. Pluto lost a fifth of its atmosphere in
Speaker 2: only one year, and from the top of the Sun's
Speaker 2: atmosphere out past Pluto, the dust in the Solar System
Speaker 2: is increasing, and so we now have to begin to wonder. Okay,
Speaker 2: the only thing we could tell by Earth evidence alone
Speaker 2: is what the Earth does, and if the Sun throws
Speaker 2: a superflare at us, we can tell that in the
Speaker 2: geologic evidence as well. But it's looking like this is
Speaker 2: an entire Solar system shift that is taking place. Atmospheric changes,
Speaker 2: magnetic changes, extra dust everywhere. And the thing is, there
Speaker 2: should be a cyclical event in the galaxy that hits
Speaker 2: our solar system over and over again that causes magnetic
Speaker 2: changes and brings extra dust to.
Speaker 3: The Solar system.
Speaker 2: Whether there're study it in a lab, a sphere magnet spinning,
Speaker 2: or whether they're studying a star, any star they've studied,
Speaker 2: or when they're studying the Milky Way galaxy or even
Speaker 2: any of the nearby galaxies that we can study, well,
Speaker 2: they notice an electric current sheet going through the midplane
Speaker 2: of the galaxy or the solar system or the lab experiment.
Speaker 2: This wavy rippling sheet that has a lot of charge particles.
Speaker 2: It attracts dust just like an electrostatic swift er duster,
Speaker 2: and it also marks where the northern magnetic fields and
Speaker 2: the southern magnetic fields meet, and so our solar system
Speaker 2: as it's traveling around the galaxy, it gets hit by
Speaker 2: this wavy current sheet on a fairly cyclical and regular basis.
Speaker 2: And when this happens, we should expect three things. One,
Speaker 2: we are subject to the galactic magnetic reversal, literally, the
Speaker 2: magnetic fields at the galactic level that are engulfing our
Speaker 2: entire solar system, flip.
Speaker 3: While this is happening.
Speaker 2: Extra charged particles, electrons, protons, things like that are coming
Speaker 2: in at the same time as extra dust is coming in.
Speaker 2: And they know for a fact that this is something
Speaker 2: that exists anytime there is a spinning magnetic system. In fact,
Speaker 2: they have studied the Milky Ways so well that they
Speaker 2: know the amplitude, how high this wavy current sheet goes,
Speaker 2: they know its thickness, and they know approximately how fast
Speaker 2: it's traveling. And what's interesting is their best guesses for
Speaker 2: those three things have it hitting the Earth between eleven
Speaker 2: and thirteen thousand years apart, and that twelve thousand year
Speaker 2: mark is right.
Speaker 1: In the middle of that.
Speaker 2: And so if you think about it, not only would
Speaker 2: that explain the cycle right, Not only would that explain
Speaker 2: how both the Earth and the Sun.
Speaker 3: Get activated to.
Speaker 2: A certain degree, it would explain what's happening on all
Speaker 2: of the planets. It would explain the extra dust in
Speaker 2: the Solar system. And this is something that actually has
Speaker 2: to be there. This isn't like a oh, okay, well,
Speaker 2: this is an interesting hypothesis. They know it's there, they've
Speaker 2: characterized it, They've characterized some in nearby galaxies that we
Speaker 2: can study in that way if they're not you know,
Speaker 2: edge on.
Speaker 3: You know, for example, if.
Speaker 2: We're looking at a galaxy and we just see the
Speaker 2: edge of it so it looks like a flat line,
Speaker 2: it's hard to do. But when we can see the
Speaker 2: whole spiral of the galaxy, so basically we're looking down
Speaker 2: from from one of the galaxy's poles, right, they see
Speaker 2: it in other galaxies well, And so what we are
Speaker 2: actually looking at here is a cyclical galactic magnetic reversal
Speaker 2: that brings extra dust that changes the magnetic condition of
Speaker 2: our entire Solar system, and more importantly for us here
Speaker 2: on Earth, it causes these cyclical magnetic pulse shifts and
Speaker 2: causes the Sun to have that outburst of activity.
Speaker 1: Right, that's okay, So thank you for that, because I mean,
Speaker 1: I I me personally, I watched the channel on a
Speaker 1: fairly regular basis, and I go through the stuff and
Speaker 1: I don't always get it all like set in stone
Speaker 1: in my head, and I go, well, that makes sense,
Speaker 1: and then I move on because I've got a billion
Speaker 1: other things going through my head on a daily basis.
Speaker 1: So it was so that's the causal effect, and to
Speaker 1: understand like this, this makes sense, Like, I mean, the
Speaker 1: physically we've seen this, it's it's just consistent with basically,
Speaker 1: be honest with you, Bennett's like, this is not high
Speaker 1: like this is not like high end.
Speaker 3: Nope, I mean this is this basic semester.
Speaker 1: This is like second semester.
Speaker 2: Not complex at all. I mean virtually all of astrophysics
Speaker 2: or cosmological physics or even you know, physics of the atmosphere,
Speaker 2: those things are more complicated than this. Absolutely, I mean,
Speaker 2: this is the kind of thing where after after they
Speaker 2: discovered it at the Sun and discovered it at about
Speaker 2: twenty other stars in the galaxy, then they started characterizing
Speaker 2: the galactic version of this current sheet and in other galaxies.
Speaker 2: I had my buddy several years ago, Billy Elverton, who
Speaker 2: runs a plasma lab in Georgia, do this experiment, you know,
Speaker 2: turn off all the lights, put an electric current to
Speaker 2: a spinning sphere magnet so that you can actually see
Speaker 2: the glow mode plasma.
Speaker 3: And you could say, we did it in a lab.
Speaker 2: It's so easy that And you know this guy, yes,
Speaker 2: he worked, he worked HVAC. His whole career has been
Speaker 2: tinkering with electronics his whole career.
Speaker 3: This guy is not.
Speaker 2: A PhD in this stuff. I mean, this is this
Speaker 2: is the kind of stuff where it's simple to set
Speaker 2: up the confirmatory experiment. It's simple to think about, okay,
Speaker 2: magnetic fields switching directions. It's simple to think of, you know,
Speaker 2: extra dust being seen as a as a key marker
Speaker 2: of things happening. None of this is PhD level Phis,
Speaker 2: It's just you have to marry you know, paleoclimatology, geo magnetism,
Speaker 2: atmospheric dynamics, solar activity, planetary science, galactic physics, and electromagnetism.
Speaker 2: You have to pull all of these things together in
Speaker 2: a renaissance like interdisciplinary mishmash to even get there. And
Speaker 2: you know, I love specialization of science. It's where the
Speaker 2: greatest innovations come from these days. But also what specialization
Speaker 2: of science has done. I mean, to get a paper
Speaker 2: published in a major journal today, you've got to keep
Speaker 2: your head down in.
Speaker 3: The box and be ultra focused.
Speaker 2: You don't have time to peek your head up and
Speaker 2: look around and see what other people are doing. I
Speaker 2: talk to professors who have no idea what their colleague
Speaker 2: down the hall in their department is working on. Outside
Speaker 2: of teaching their classes. And that's understandable because they've got
Speaker 2: to be hyper focused.
Speaker 3: And on top of.
Speaker 2: That, they've got classes to teach, they've got papers to grade,
Speaker 2: tests to grade, they've got tas to manage, they've got
Speaker 2: office hours, they've got department politics and all these other things.
Speaker 2: So I had one professor, And for those who really
Speaker 2: follow my work, they might remember the name of this guy,
Speaker 2: but I won't blow up his spot right here. I
Speaker 2: talked to him fairly regularly. He's at Brown University, and
Speaker 2: he's one of the individuals who actually figured out how
Speaker 2: thick this electric current sheet is in the milky way,
Speaker 2: he said to me about two years ago, you know,
Speaker 2: and it's like you're cheating. You don't have to drill
Speaker 2: down and make these discoveries. You get to see what
Speaker 2: all the discoveries are and pull them together. You don't
Speaker 2: have to go teach classes. You don't have to sit
Speaker 2: there for three hours of office hours and listen to
Speaker 2: student after student explain why they they they didn't show
Speaker 2: up for the test, or they need an opportunity to
Speaker 2: rewrite this paper or something right. And so it's not
Speaker 2: an easy thing to do. Even though all of the
Speaker 2: science involved is relatively easy. It's that you have to
Speaker 2: find it from so many different places and put it
Speaker 2: all together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, no, it's that's a really important point. I think
Speaker 1: it's it's and it's it is like you know, special
Speaker 1: specialization is for ants, right, I know. I listening to
Speaker 1: you talk about it, it reminds me of some of
Speaker 1: the stuff that I do here where I'm trying to
Speaker 1: marry what's happening to geopolitically with what's happening economically, what's
Speaker 1: happening culturally, and you're trying to you know, you're trying
Speaker 1: to marry those those things together and then understand the
Speaker 1: personalities that the people who are setting the policy, and
Speaker 1: it winds up being again a big interdisciplinary thing and
Speaker 1: only certain and and it is a luxury. We get
Speaker 1: to sit around all day, sixty seventy hours a week
Speaker 1: thinking about these things in these terms and actually exactly
Speaker 1: and as opposed as opposed to the quote unquote specialists
Speaker 1: who don't, Yeah, it is a luxury, and it is.
Speaker 3: It is a luxury. And that's exactly the point.
Speaker 2: You know, the specific study that this guy did, and
Speaker 2: this goes for pretty much everyone making these discoveries it's
Speaker 2: you know, we're talking, we're talking months to in some
Speaker 2: cases years of all free research time being dedicated to
Speaker 2: just one point. Yes, When that happens, the same people
Speaker 2: making those individual discoveries have no chance of putting together
Speaker 2: a bigger picture.
Speaker 3: And so this is why you.
Speaker 2: Need to step back and have somebody else doing interdisciplinary
Speaker 2: renaissance like thinking to pull it all together. And it's
Speaker 2: not that it's that complex, it's that it requires you
Speaker 2: to be unburdened, yes, by the hyper specialization of scientific fields.
Speaker 1: Well, it's you know it. And again, the other thing
Speaker 1: that popped into my head while we were sorted moving
Speaker 1: into this direction was I go back to Thomas Gold
Speaker 1: and his book The Deep Hop Bios. Tommy Gold was
Speaker 1: a you know, I he popped into my head the
Speaker 1: other day because Freeman I saw a short thing on
Speaker 1: Twitter the other day, a Freeman Dyson talking about his
Speaker 1: friend Thomas Gold, and he called him Tommy of course,
Speaker 1: and uh and and Tom Gold was one of those
Speaker 1: guys who refused to just stay in the box. He
Speaker 1: kept constantly popping out and saying, Okay, what does all
Speaker 1: this stuff mean? And think out of the box, go
Speaker 1: into disciplinary and then say, well, what if oil isn't
Speaker 1: dead plankton and dead dinosaurs? Yeah, what is what if this?
Speaker 1: What if this was that? And I remember reading the
Speaker 1: Deep hop boy Iosphere and watching stuff about this twenty
Speaker 1: five thirty years ago. It's the same thing with like
Speaker 1: Richard Wrangham's book Catching Fire, you know, why cooking Made
Speaker 1: us human? Right, It's again, it's another of those like
Speaker 1: seminal books or or inquisitions about that take that take
Speaker 1: a completely different view of what we think we understand
Speaker 1: about biology or chemistry or physics or whatever, and marry
Speaker 1: those things in multiple and marry multiple disciplines and then
Speaker 1: come up with a synthetic conclusion based on those things.
Speaker 1: And that's it's a very difficult thing to do. And
Speaker 1: and and those that do it, well, you know, they're
Speaker 1: usually hated, Yeah, by those who have specialized.
Speaker 2: You know, Tommy gold is actually one of the first
Speaker 2: people who talked about the Great solar eruption. He's got
Speaker 2: some excellent work on that as well. Now, it falls
Speaker 2: short of what we're able to determine today, but when
Speaker 2: you look at the tools he had in his toolbox
Speaker 2: back then, some of the stuff he was able to
Speaker 2: figure out seems like wizardry, magic, sorcery.
Speaker 3: It's like, how are you able to.
Speaker 2: Tease that out of such little data? It's like, Okay,
Speaker 2: you've got two screws and a hammer and you built
Speaker 2: a house.
Speaker 3: What do you how how did you do that?
Speaker 1: But you know now we.
Speaker 2: Have all the tools now and all the information.
Speaker 1: Well, it's funny like some people just have, you know,
Speaker 1: they they have uncommon they have an uncommon mind and
Speaker 1: an uncommon ability to put this versus this versus that.
Speaker 1: It's it is interesting you say that because as an
Speaker 1: undergraduate in the University of Florida, I talk about my
Speaker 1: uh my research director, doctor Phil Brucat was one of
Speaker 1: those guys and uh, you know, we were sitting we
Speaker 1: would sit there and design. We'd go to the Purple
Speaker 1: Porpoise after the after our physical chemistry exams, and he'd
Speaker 1: take us out drinking at the Purple Porpoise, which no
Speaker 1: longer exists, and we would and then after after everybody
Speaker 1: else about, he and I would be sitting at the
Speaker 1: at the at the bar. He'd be ordering me drinks
Speaker 1: and we'd be designing new experiments on cocktail mappins. Right,
Speaker 1: And but what was interesting was that he you know,
Speaker 1: I would say I would sit there as an undergrad
Speaker 1: was saying, you know, we'd be talking about, you know,
Speaker 1: what we're doing in the laboratory, and he says, you
Speaker 1: do understand what it is we're doing here. I just
Speaker 1: thought it was very cool stuff we were doing, Like
Speaker 1: we were creating transition metal rare gas clusters in the
Speaker 1: gas phase and then blowing them apart to see what
Speaker 1: they what they're there, the bond structure and and the
Speaker 1: bond energy and everything else was to understand to literally
Speaker 1: create molecules the world they'd never seen before in order
Speaker 1: to characterize them and then you know, basically place their
Speaker 1: data in the jan of tables for all the gibs
Speaker 1: free energy and n f LP and all that's the
Speaker 1: basic like real basic stuff. And he looked at me
Speaker 1: one day and he said, when we were doing this,
Speaker 1: he said, do you understand what what we're trying to
Speaker 1: do here? I'm like, no, I guess not, because I've
Speaker 1: got lost in the weeds of the really cool stuff.
Speaker 1: He's like, the goal here is to build up to
Speaker 1: the point where we can actually talk about a real
Speaker 1: system like water and what happens when we put ions
Speaker 1: into water, and we understand water chemistry, and we've built
Speaker 1: it up from the quantum level to the thermodynamic bulk
Speaker 1: and then and and beyond. And he's like, that's what
Speaker 1: we're doing here. And we start with you know, we
Speaker 1: start with vanadium argon ball. The argon is a ball,
Speaker 1: the vanadium atom. Then we go to stick O two,
Speaker 1: and then we go to the big stick CO two,
Speaker 1: because the structure of CO two is basically three atoms
Speaker 1: in a line. Then you go to boomerang, water, propeller, ammonia,
Speaker 1: and that's the way he described it all. And I'm like,
Speaker 1: and it's at that moment that I realized, Okay, you
Speaker 1: know when you're when you're dealing with people who are
Speaker 1: that level of not just intellect, but of purpose. Because
Speaker 1: he had a purpose and that was incredibly inspiring. And
Speaker 1: it was like, I'm like, oh, okay, and yeah, I
Speaker 1: want to be that guy. That's what I said to
Speaker 1: myself at the time when I was like, you know,
Speaker 1: twenty one, twenty two years old, I'm like, oh, I
Speaker 1: want to be that guy. And you know, it took
Speaker 1: me a long time to get there and to do it,
Speaker 1: you know, any covidian, but there it.
Speaker 2: Is those people today are doing some of the most
Speaker 2: important stuff right now.
Speaker 3: You know, a lot of the people who.
Speaker 2: Saw COVID for what it was, from the actual virus
Speaker 2: to what the vaccines were, to the financial incentives to doctors,
Speaker 2: to some of the shenanigans at the FDA and the
Speaker 2: pharma companies. It's the same kind of multidisciplinary analysis. I mean,
Speaker 2: for somebody could think of it and be like, Okay, well, no,
Speaker 2: I mean it's all the same thing, But no, it's
Speaker 2: kind of not. That's it's literally it's chemistry, it's virology,
Speaker 2: it's human biology, it's several different aspects of pathogenesis. It's
Speaker 2: regulatory procedures, it's economics, it's it's human psychology of people
Speaker 2: in power when when money is.
Speaker 3: Involved, and other things like that.
Speaker 2: You know, I don't know if you know who who
Speaker 2: Brett Weinstein is, but great at this as well. He's
Speaker 2: another guy who, like you, like me, does not stay
Speaker 2: in his lane, and there's an incredible benefit to that.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: I know we're kind of coming up on the end here.
Speaker 2: So there's two other things I wanted to mention about
Speaker 2: this event. One of the things that should happen electromagnetically
Speaker 2: and from all this dust.
Speaker 1: Is.
Speaker 2: That the Sun right before it's big blast, it should
Speaker 2: go dark.
Speaker 1: Okay, I think, I think I remember why, but I
Speaker 1: want I want you.
Speaker 3: To the main reasons.
Speaker 1: So the the.
Speaker 2: Luminosity of the Sun, its brightness is wholly based on
Speaker 2: surface processes, things that are happening at the at the
Speaker 2: top of the Sun. And these are all electrical processes.
Speaker 2: And there appears to be an interaction of the Sun's
Speaker 2: internal electro dynamic activity with external electrodynamic activity from the galaxy. Now,
Speaker 2: right when we're moving from the northern magnetic fields to
Speaker 2: the southern magnetic fields in the galaxy, which is what's
Speaker 2: happening the cycle. We're in the northern magnetic fields. Now
Speaker 2: we're going to south. In order to get there, we
Speaker 2: have across the zero point, which basically means there will
Speaker 2: not be any magnetic influence on the Sun. This is
Speaker 2: going to be begin to disrupt those surface processes.
Speaker 3: Now, this does two things.
Speaker 2: One is it begins to dim the light that the
Speaker 2: Sun produces, and it begins to put a stopper in
Speaker 2: what's called the solar wind, which is it's this charged
Speaker 2: particle wind that blows in every direction from the Sun
Speaker 2: or south east west, everywhere throughout the Solar system. And
Speaker 2: when that happens, all this extra dust can begin to accumulate,
Speaker 2: and so at the same time that the Sun is
Speaker 2: slightly losing its luminosity, it's also have its atmosphere become dusty.
Speaker 2: These two things combined to make the Sun look like
Speaker 2: it's going dark.
Speaker 1: That makes sense.
Speaker 2: Then, of course, very soon thereafter, and probably we're talking
Speaker 2: about somewhere between one and seven days, it could be
Speaker 2: that three days of darkness.
Speaker 3: That is in several religious texts.
Speaker 2: We enter the other magnetic field of the galaxy, the
Speaker 2: Sun gets its juice back, and it blasts off all
Speaker 2: of this material in what I've called a micro nova.
Speaker 2: You know, three years ago people were saying I was
Speaker 2: crazy and micro nova didn't exist. And then two years
Speaker 2: ago astronomers were like, huzzah, we have discovered micro nova
Speaker 2: are real things.
Speaker 3: We can't believe it. We never would have imagined that
Speaker 3: this was a real thing.
Speaker 2: They still haven't gotten to the point where they admit
Speaker 2: the Sun can do it yet, but you know, they've
Speaker 2: now discovered probably thirty or forty micro nova events in
Speaker 2: the galaxy. Just in the last two years, and so
Speaker 2: they'll get there eventually. But what's interesting about that is
Speaker 2: it's just one of several things that seems to match
Speaker 2: up pretty perfectly with these religious stories. Another good example
Speaker 2: is the way people will be act the way society
Speaker 2: will be acting. They will turn from God, they will
Speaker 2: turn to sin and greed and debauchery and degeneracy.
Speaker 3: And other things like that. And it's kind of exactly.
Speaker 2: What we're seeing in the world right now, not only
Speaker 2: on individual levels, but take a look at what's being pushed.
Speaker 3: There's really no doubt.
Speaker 2: If you pay attention to anything from the super Bowl
Speaker 2: halftime show to the Grammys to individual music videos, you
Speaker 2: can see there's this promotion of evil, of satanic symbolism,
Speaker 2: and it's kind of on point with what we're expecting
Speaker 2: to see in terms of how individuals will think and react.
Speaker 1: You know, the.
Speaker 2: Bible says it's happening because of sin. But what's interesting
Speaker 2: is this extra radiation that we talked about at the
Speaker 2: beginning of the show. It has two main effects on
Speaker 2: the brain. One, it impairs the hippocampus, which is where
Speaker 2: cognitive activity comes from, which is a very fancy way
Speaker 2: of saying everybody gets a little dumber, and at the
Speaker 2: same time everybody's getting a little dumber. It over excites
Speaker 2: the locus cerrillius, which is very sensitive to electrical activity.
Speaker 2: And the locus cerrillius is the part of the brain
Speaker 2: that reacts to powerful negative emotions like fear, terror, anxiety, panic,
Speaker 2: even hatred. And so if it seems like people are
Speaker 2: getting dumber, they're getting more hateful and angry, and they're
Speaker 2: becoming more emotionally unstable and emotionally reactive. Yes, yes they are,
Speaker 2: and there's a very good scientific reason for that. The
Speaker 2: issue is this was also written about thousands, you know,
Speaker 2: thousands of years ago in these in these books, last
Speaker 2: thing on the daca, and this is the one that's
Speaker 2: hardest for people to wrap their head around.
Speaker 3: But the evidence is there, and this.
Speaker 2: Is also talked about in those religious texts as well.
Speaker 2: The Earth almost certainly is going to tilt. I think
Speaker 2: probably about ninety degrees. Now, there could be a fifteen
Speaker 2: to twenty percent error range in there. It could be
Speaker 2: seventy degrees, it could be one hundred and ten degrees,
Speaker 2: but the crust is almost certainly going to shift. Einstein
Speaker 2: knew this for a fact, Chan, Thomas knew it. Couvier,
Speaker 2: de Luke, Leibnitz, all the people who studied these great
Speaker 2: disasters in the past knew it. And some of the
Speaker 2: evidence that has been discovered is just so incontrovertible. The
Speaker 2: two best examples are the evidence discovered by Project Nanook
Speaker 2: in the Arctic, led by Major Maynardy White. Major Maynardy
Speaker 2: White actually committed treason. He kept several documents from the
Speaker 2: mission and from the Pentagon meetings that they had in
Speaker 2: the aftermath of the mission, where the predecessor for the CIA,
Speaker 2: the OSS, the Office of Strategic Services.
Speaker 3: They ended up morphing into the CIA, But the OSS
Speaker 3: at the.
Speaker 2: Time, in concert with the Rand Corporation, determined that what
Speaker 2: they had found in the Arctic was alternating levels of
Speaker 2: polar fossils tropical fossils, polar fossils tropical fossils, and they
Speaker 2: determined that the Earth tilts ninety degrees, basically putting the
Speaker 2: poles at the equator and parts of the tropics at
Speaker 2: the polar region. To explain this, and if it wasn't
Speaker 2: for Major White keeping those classified documents to give to
Speaker 2: his son to publish in the book World in Peril,
Speaker 2: several decades later we might not know of it. The
Speaker 2: other great example is the mammoths, the frozen mammoths. Now,
Speaker 2: most people think that the great mystery is how do
Speaker 2: you freeze a mammoth so quickly that the food doesn't
Speaker 2: digest in its mouth or stomach. That is certainly an
Speaker 2: interesting thing to discuss. What I want to know is
Speaker 2: what the mammoths were eating, because here's the thing. You
Speaker 2: take a look at where these mammoths were found. There's
Speaker 2: nothing for them to eat there. They were basically found
Speaker 2: in you know, ten twenty thirty feet of ice. You know,
Speaker 2: they couldn't have been living in those conditions. They need
Speaker 2: hundreds to over one thousand pounds of vegetation a day,
Speaker 2: So what were they eating. Furthermore, they were frozen during
Speaker 2: the glacial period. We are in an interglacial period right now.
Speaker 2: In fact, we're twelve thousand years.
Speaker 3: Into an interglacial period, which means.
Speaker 2: It was even colder back when they were frozen. So
Speaker 2: take a look at that area that does not have
Speaker 2: enough vegetation for them to eat right now, make it
Speaker 2: five to ten degrees colder, and ask yourself, what in
Speaker 2: the world where the mammoth's doing there.
Speaker 3: And the answer is that they probably.
Speaker 2: Weren't there at that latitude. They were at a different
Speaker 2: latitude the Earth turned over and they found themselves rapidly
Speaker 2: freezing at the polar region. Because I mean, when you
Speaker 2: think about what a mammoth has to eat, and the
Speaker 2: fact that there's not even enough food there today, twelve
Speaker 2: thousand years into an interglacial warm period, on top of
Speaker 2: all the global warming they say is happening, there's still
Speaker 2: not enough vegetation for them to eat. You're telling me
Speaker 2: in the middle of a glacial period they had.
Speaker 3: Enough food to eat.
Speaker 1: No, no way.
Speaker 2: They were at lower latitudes, and then the Earth tilted
Speaker 2: and put them at the polar region.
Speaker 1: And so.
Speaker 3: On top of everything.
Speaker 2: We already discussed, there's this shifting of the planet, which
Speaker 2: not only is going to change every location's climate because
Speaker 2: you're not at the same latitude you were before, but
Speaker 2: when the Earth tilts like that, the oceans are going
Speaker 2: to slosh and cause Titanic tsunamis. There's a layer of
Speaker 2: sediment in the Gulf of Mexico that shows that it
Speaker 2: had to have been deposited by a wave from the
Speaker 2: Pacific Ocean. That came over top of the rockies. There
Speaker 2: are these muck deposits in Alaska where it's literally dozens
Speaker 2: of feet of bones and mud and trees all smashed
Speaker 2: and piled together, all in one. And you can find
Speaker 2: this in other places in the world as well. There
Speaker 2: are enormous, you know, fifty ton blocks of rock pushed
Speaker 2: two kilometers up the Alps in several different places, and
Speaker 2: no evidence of human cutting of the rocks or anything
Speaker 2: like that, let alone how the humans could have pulled
Speaker 2: these things up mountains. But if you've got great waves
Speaker 2: to do it, it makes sense. There's evidence for this
Speaker 2: in Africa, Australia, India, China, Russia, all over the place.
Speaker 3: And so we're really.
Speaker 2: Actually looking at a galactic solar system Earth level complete
Speaker 2: catastrophe from radiation from the Earth turning over, from climate changes,
Speaker 2: from navigational changes to now also the possibility of losing electricity.
Speaker 2: And you realize that this is what almost everybody should
Speaker 2: be talking about, given the fact that we're completely doing
Speaker 2: time for it, and it's already started. It hasn't just started,
Speaker 2: it's accelerating and getting worse and worse. The solar storm
Speaker 2: back in May showed us just how vulnerable we are.
Speaker 2: Everybody should be talking about this, and in reality, almost
Speaker 2: nobody is.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, that's funny you say all of that. And
Speaker 1: as you're, as you were describing all that, I'm looking
Speaker 1: at my desktop as I you know, as we do this,
Speaker 1: and my desktop is a picture I took at the
Speaker 1: Grand Canyon when we went to visit it a few
Speaker 1: years ago. And I think back to, you know, the
Speaker 1: talks I've heard from guys like Randall Carlson and others
Speaker 1: about well, you know, North America does not look like
Speaker 1: you know, the topography of North America doesn't look like
Speaker 1: it was created naturally. It looks more like you know,
Speaker 1: a big you know, a big runoff system, like a
Speaker 1: big wave came across and just you know, carved large
Speaker 1: scars across the entire continent. And that makes so much
Speaker 1: more sense than than the classic gradualism of the of
Speaker 1: the the dominant thinking. And you know, we haven't even
Speaker 1: like this discussed about the difference between your electromagnetic model
Speaker 1: of the universe. It's yours, but the electromagnetic model of
Speaker 1: the universe is the gravitic one, and all of these
Speaker 1: other issues that you know, we we could go into
Speaker 1: for another hour or two hours, but it's just we
Speaker 1: have to reframe the way we interact with the things
Speaker 1: that are right around us and be better observers of
Speaker 1: and better questioners of the world we literally inhabit. And
Speaker 1: the last point, I'm going to give you the last
Speaker 1: word here because think is really really important. It was
Speaker 1: something that as I told you off camera befhere we
Speaker 1: started my wife. What my wife really appreciates about everything
Speaker 1: that you present is that you present it as this
Speaker 1: is not fear monitoring. This is these are the facts,
Speaker 1: this is what's happened, and we can prepare And I
Speaker 1: want you to talk about the mindset of what it is,
Speaker 1: what mindset you have to have in order to get
Speaker 1: through this, because we're clearly here and this has happened before,
Speaker 1: and this will happen again, right.
Speaker 2: Right, So I see a lot of people become discouraged
Speaker 2: with the possibility of this, But what everybody needs to
Speaker 2: remember is humans have made it through a bunch of
Speaker 2: these and everybody alive today is descended from a survivor.
Speaker 2: It's in our DNA. We've done it before and we
Speaker 2: can do it again. It requires some determination, It requires
Speaker 2: staying informed about everything that's happening. It requires not getting
Speaker 2: too depressed or lost in the sauce of all of this,
Speaker 2: and then it requires action. You know, everything that would
Speaker 2: normally be considered in the world of prepping, you know,
Speaker 2: having extra food, having extra water, having a way to
Speaker 2: protect yourself and your family. But at this level it
Speaker 2: goes a step further, having seeds, having pre industrial tools,
Speaker 2: thinking about, Okay, how did the Vikings do it, how
Speaker 2: did the cavemen do it? How did people do it
Speaker 2: before there was electricity?
Speaker 1: You know how to hunt?
Speaker 2: Do you know how to grow food? Do you know
Speaker 2: how to build shelter? Do you know how to watch
Speaker 2: the sky and watch the leaves on the trees to
Speaker 2: know what the weather's going to be like later in
Speaker 2: the day. It's important to basically take that prepper mindset
Speaker 2: and blow it up to a years, decades, possibly generations
Speaker 2: of living like a caveman or a viking.
Speaker 3: Something like that.
Speaker 2: But at the same time, there's all that preparation that
Speaker 2: comes with it, and then you'll have to execute when
Speaker 2: all of this stuff happens, and execution of something like
Speaker 2: this in the face of absolutely terrifying natural conditions with
Speaker 2: literally death all around you will require quite a bit
Speaker 2: of focus and strength, and when it comes to that,
Speaker 2: it will be very important that we're not weighed down
Speaker 2: by things in our past. You know, this is something
Speaker 2: it took me a long time to realize, But every
Speaker 2: every negative aspect someone's personality is tied to an insecurity
Speaker 2: that they have, and most of those are tied to
Speaker 2: deeper seated traumas. And these things can be rooted.
Speaker 3: Out and be fixed.
Speaker 2: It just takes a good bit of work, and it
Speaker 2: doesn't happen overnight, and it takes a lot of humility
Speaker 2: and brutal on it with yourself. On top of all
Speaker 2: of that, it's really important.
Speaker 3: To remain positive.
Speaker 2: In addition to all the reasons, somebody could probably imagine
Speaker 2: that would be a good idea to remain positive. If
Speaker 2: you are subject to an electric current, the way your
Speaker 2: body will actually react to it depends on your mental state.
Speaker 2: If you're in a bad mental state, you have a
Speaker 2: better chance of having a heart attack. If you're in
Speaker 2: a good mental state, you have a better chance of
Speaker 2: laughing when you get a shock and be like, WHOA,
Speaker 2: that was interesting, that was electrifying, and that that might
Speaker 2: actually be the hardest part of this, because how do
Speaker 2: you stay positive in the face of this? But for
Speaker 2: those who can, they're going to have an unbelievable advantage,
Speaker 2: not only in terms of being able to stay focused
Speaker 2: on preparing for this event, staying focused on remaining informed
Speaker 2: so you know where we are and what's coming, but
Speaker 2: the execution of survival and protecting yourself and your family
Speaker 2: in the aftermath. All of these things require you to fix.
Speaker 2: You know, obviously, if you have any physical health problems,
Speaker 2: you're going to want to address those, but they require
Speaker 2: you to have the right mental state, from fixing what's
Speaker 2: already wrong to making sure you have the right mindset
Speaker 2: going forward. And it might not seem as important as
Speaker 2: having extra food or seeds or bullets, but it's probably
Speaker 2: just as important as those things.
Speaker 1: It is. It's absolutely isn't even if and I'm gonna like,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna end it here by saying, and even if
Speaker 1: these things do not come to pass for whatever reason,
Speaker 1: if somehow we maket if let's just for lack of
Speaker 1: a bed, let's just pull it. What if you're wrong, right, Ben,
Speaker 1: What if you're only partially correct?
Speaker 3: What if you're that would be so wonderful.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I agree that would right, wouldn't Yeah? Right? You
Speaker 1: know that that we're dealing with here is in what
Speaker 1: you presented, isn't what you know you can say as
Speaker 1: an order of magnitude problem. Yeah, these things are going
Speaker 1: to occur, but the way you've described it now is it's, oh,
Speaker 1: maybe it's a couple of orders of magnitude worse than
Speaker 1: what actually is likely to occur. Let's just put it there.
Speaker 1: You're still going to need everything you just described and
Speaker 1: absolutely the people around you in that same mindset, because
Speaker 1: you're not going to be able to do this by
Speaker 1: yourself in any way of shape or form. There's no
Speaker 1: fucking way you're going to be able to do this
Speaker 1: any even one tenth of this on your own or
Speaker 1: in a you know, you're just not going to be that. Like,
Speaker 1: it was funny watching that terrible Obama movie Leave the
Speaker 1: World Behind and There and if you if you saw it.
Speaker 1: I watched it in horror as to what Obama thinks
Speaker 1: the average Prepper looks like, meaning the Kevin Bacon character
Speaker 1: in that movie, and I was like, yeah, dude, that
Speaker 1: is so not us, Like that is so not who
Speaker 1: we are. That's your projection of who you think everyone
Speaker 1: is that's not you. It was quite pathetic actually, and
Speaker 1: I'm like, yeah, no, that just maybe even more convinced,
Speaker 1: like it doesn't matter. You have to remain you have
Speaker 1: to understand that this is as you say all the time,
Speaker 1: eyes open, no fear right, and and it's a it's
Speaker 1: a you know, it's a brilliant thing, and I really
Speaker 1: appreciate it. It's like years and years ago, I, you know,
Speaker 1: tried to the libertarian movement by saying, look, we can't
Speaker 1: be against everything. We have to be for something. Our
Speaker 1: taglines have to be positive, they have to be it
Speaker 1: has to be a statement of positive action, not a
Speaker 1: statement of what we're against. Being against something is easy.
Speaker 1: Being for something is fucking hardish ship in this environment.
Speaker 1: So you know me, I swear like a sailor.
Speaker 3: You know, I do on my live streams quite a bit.
Speaker 1: Actually, yeah, I've watched a couple of They're fun So
Speaker 1: any other last words, Ben, I think I was it's
Speaker 1: a shame actually that they've decided to have sex with
Speaker 1: farm animals. Is after it as a post, I know,
Speaker 1: I know.
Speaker 3: I hope the goat was worth it.
Speaker 2: I guess all I would say is if people want
Speaker 2: to know more about this stuff, I have tons of
Speaker 2: explanatory videos on my YouTube channel tons and you know
Speaker 2: I do that daily update on the Sun, the Earth,
Speaker 2: and any relevant science news coming to this. You know,
Speaker 2: there's a lot of ways to go deeper, but the
Speaker 2: absolute best way to start getting aware and staying aware
Speaker 2: it's the free videos on my YouTube channels, Suspicious observers,
Speaker 2: and so I appreciate anybody willing to come check out
Speaker 2: what's going on there, make yourself knowledgeable and stay up
Speaker 2: to date on all of this stuff while you're also
Speaker 2: keeping up to date with the economic, political, and cultural
Speaker 2: nonsense as well.
Speaker 1: Agreed, all right, Ben, we will hopefully we'll do this again,
Speaker 1: and we'll do this in such a way that it's
Speaker 1: not a basic primer into what you do. I just
Speaker 1: I'd like to pick your brain or just have a
Speaker 1: general conversation with you in the future about what stuff. So,
Speaker 1: but I wanted to at least lay some groundwork this
Speaker 1: morning and and do that, so.
Speaker 3: Appreciate That's great. Yeah, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: I had a good time.
Speaker 3: Thanks for the invitation.
Speaker 1: You're more than welcome. You have a great weekend. We'll
Speaker 1: talk so well that I'll about wrap it up for
Speaker 1: episode one ninety three of the Gold Goats and Guns Podcast,
Speaker 1: I want to thank Ben Davidson for taking the time
Speaker 1: out and doing the get to know you thing, and
Speaker 1: in some ways I almost feel bad that Dave Collum
Speaker 1: wasn't there. I wasn't here today, but you know, things happen.
Speaker 1: With that said, I'm out, so you can follow my
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Speaker 1: then do the thing you guys, be well, You take care,
Speaker 1: we'll talk soon. Keep your stick on the ice
Speaker 2: There not behind,