WEBVTT 1 00:00:01.080 --> 00:00:05.599 It's night with I'm telling you easy bonding. 2 00:00:05.719 --> 00:00:10.800 Radio, Sarry Well. I hope that you learned something from 3 00:00:10.919 --> 00:00:18.440 the last hour talking about offshore drilling wind turbines off 4 00:00:18.440 --> 00:00:21.839 the coast of New England. I think both of the 5 00:00:21.879 --> 00:00:25.239 representatives represented their points of view as best they could. 6 00:00:26.000 --> 00:00:31.920 Each were at different times little little concerned on some 7 00:00:32.000 --> 00:00:39.439 of the particulars. I just think it's interesting that environmentalists, 8 00:00:40.119 --> 00:00:42.039 it would seem to me, would want to be in 9 00:00:42.159 --> 00:00:44.960 concert with the fishing industry here for a whole lot 10 00:00:45.000 --> 00:00:50.520 of reasons. But hey, the politics behind all of this 11 00:00:51.840 --> 00:00:54.200 and the amount of money that's behind all of this, 12 00:00:54.920 --> 00:00:59.200 I got to tell you that it's immense. It's immense, 13 00:01:00.240 --> 00:01:04.920 and I don't really understand it as well as I should. 14 00:01:05.079 --> 00:01:07.959 And there were some questions that were an answer to 15 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:12.120 my satisfaction. But I think both of the gentlemen represented 16 00:01:12.159 --> 00:01:15.400 their points of view as well as they could. Now 17 00:01:15.480 --> 00:01:18.200 I want to change topics and maybe get to something 18 00:01:18.319 --> 00:01:20.599 that some of you I was hoping that some of 19 00:01:20.640 --> 00:01:23.400 you would have been. I suspect you were interested in 20 00:01:23.480 --> 00:01:27.920 listening to the conversation which I wanted to make a conversation, 21 00:01:28.079 --> 00:01:30.959 And it wasn't a debate where you ask someone a 22 00:01:31.040 --> 00:01:33.640 question and the other person has a response directly. That's 23 00:01:33.680 --> 00:01:35.560 not the style we do here on Night Side. So 24 00:01:36.280 --> 00:01:41.480 I hope you enjoyed the hour and the fact that 25 00:01:42.480 --> 00:01:48.760 people didn't seem interested in engaging. Believe me, offshore turvines 26 00:01:48.799 --> 00:01:53.519 will have a tremendous impact on New England and maybe 27 00:01:53.599 --> 00:01:56.239 a positive or maybe a negative, but I think we 28 00:01:56.280 --> 00:01:59.319 should investigate and try to anticipate which it would be, 29 00:01:59.439 --> 00:02:06.680 and then support or oppose the projects accordingly. Anyway, Thanksgiving, 30 00:02:07.560 --> 00:02:12.599 I mean this is nine days away. The election is over. 31 00:02:12.719 --> 00:02:15.520 It was two weeks ago tonight that Donald Trump won 32 00:02:15.719 --> 00:02:20.240 a decisive victory, and as all of you know, I 33 00:02:20.319 --> 00:02:24.120 had asked and I had hoped that whoever was going 34 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:26.560 to win, it would be a decisive victory. My worst 35 00:02:26.599 --> 00:02:30.879 fear was that people would still be fighting over who 36 00:02:30.919 --> 00:02:33.800 had won my Thanksgiving. Now, as it turns out, it'll 37 00:02:33.840 --> 00:02:37.199 be three weeks and two days when people gather, Families gather, 38 00:02:37.919 --> 00:02:40.599 and I would like to know how you would like 39 00:02:40.680 --> 00:02:44.680 to see Thanksgiving dinner proceed with your family. I know 40 00:02:44.800 --> 00:02:47.840 some of you will be traveling to be with other 41 00:02:47.919 --> 00:02:51.560 members of your family and relatives in far away or 42 00:02:51.680 --> 00:02:56.879 nearby places, and instead of having a family meal of 43 00:02:57.000 --> 00:03:03.759 just your immediate family, you'll probably somewhere with a larger 44 00:03:03.800 --> 00:03:08.439 group of family members and or friends, different folks obviously, 45 00:03:09.199 --> 00:03:14.039 and there will be the opportunity to talk about the 46 00:03:14.080 --> 00:03:17.759 future of the country, where we are headed as a country, 47 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:22.800 how we came to choose one candidate one party over 48 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:29.400 the other, and the potential for heated conversations exist. I 49 00:03:29.439 --> 00:03:32.520 don't think there should be heated conversations. I think we 50 00:03:32.599 --> 00:03:37.919 can have conversations around our family Thanksgiving dinner table in 51 00:03:38.000 --> 00:03:43.639 the same way that we have conversations here on Nightside. 52 00:03:43.719 --> 00:03:46.639 And I'd love to know how you plan to deal 53 00:03:46.680 --> 00:03:54.719 with it. I saw some interesting comments that were made 54 00:03:55.639 --> 00:04:00.879 which frankly bothered me, and I guess won't surprise you 55 00:04:01.080 --> 00:04:06.759 that it bothered me. This was a Yale School psychiatrist, 56 00:04:07.159 --> 00:04:14.319 Amanda Calhoun, who was talking on MSNBC about how she 57 00:04:14.400 --> 00:04:18.920 would treat or how family members should be treated. Rob. 58 00:04:19.439 --> 00:04:21.120 I just want to get right to it. Here. Play 59 00:04:21.480 --> 00:04:23.560 cut number eight A to start. 60 00:04:23.319 --> 00:04:26.839 Us off, Rob, But how do you interact with people 61 00:04:26.839 --> 00:04:28.839 who you know voted for this right? If you are 62 00:04:28.920 --> 00:04:31.600 an LGBTQ person and you know someone in your family 63 00:04:31.680 --> 00:04:34.560 voted essentially against your rights, or you're a woman knowing 64 00:04:34.600 --> 00:04:36.959 that you know this man was calling people the B word. 65 00:04:37.480 --> 00:04:40.839 Jade Vance was literally calling Kamala Harris the trash and 66 00:04:40.879 --> 00:04:43.160 said we're going to take out the trash. I know 67 00:04:43.199 --> 00:04:45.279 a lot of black women were incredibly triggered by that. 68 00:04:45.720 --> 00:04:47.839 And if you then meet somebody and you know they 69 00:04:47.920 --> 00:04:50.040 voted for the people who called you trash, or if 70 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:53.279 you're Puerto Rican, you know you know someone voted that way, 71 00:04:53.879 --> 00:04:57.040 do you recommend just from a psychological standpoint being around them. 72 00:04:57.240 --> 00:04:58.480 We got the holidays coming up. 73 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:04.439 This is a psychiatrist who's speaking. Her name is Amanda Calhoun. 74 00:05:04.879 --> 00:05:09.720 She's on MSNBC with Joy Reid and basically what she's 75 00:05:09.800 --> 00:05:13.319 saying which I don't understand, and again I think this 76 00:05:13.480 --> 00:05:16.720 is part of the problem that the Democratic Party had 77 00:05:16.720 --> 00:05:21.560 in the in the election. It sounds to me like 78 00:05:21.639 --> 00:05:25.519 she thinks that certain groups of people, whether they be 79 00:05:25.720 --> 00:05:33.800 Black women, white women, LGBTQ community, voted in mass All 80 00:05:33.839 --> 00:05:37.319 of the post election analysis that I have seen is 81 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:41.360 that there were people of different backgrounds who voted differently, 82 00:05:42.160 --> 00:05:45.360 which is what you would have expected. I mean, I 83 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:50.240 don't think that all people who happened to be I 84 00:05:50.279 --> 00:05:53.199 don't know, you know, German American all voted one way 85 00:05:53.319 --> 00:05:55.720 or the other. I don't think all people who happen 86 00:05:55.759 --> 00:06:00.879 to be African American black members of our country voted 87 00:06:00.959 --> 00:06:03.920 all way. Look, Donald Trump supposedly got more Black votes 88 00:06:03.959 --> 00:06:08.360 and more Hispanic votes than any Republican candidate in history. 89 00:06:08.920 --> 00:06:13.800 You can't accuse black people, and this woman happened to 90 00:06:13.800 --> 00:06:19.920 be black of people who disagreed with her, white or 91 00:06:20.000 --> 00:06:24.959 black for being racist because the choices were between a 92 00:06:26.160 --> 00:06:29.639 white male and a black female. And I don't think 93 00:06:29.680 --> 00:06:33.639 that that sort of polemic, that sort of conversation does 94 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:35.920 any of us any good at the end of the day. 95 00:06:37.879 --> 00:06:40.879 And I think it's going to it's going to filter 96 00:06:41.040 --> 00:06:47.120 down through academia and through the media, and all of 97 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:50.160 us on Thanksgiving Day will in effect strap on our 98 00:06:50.240 --> 00:06:55.439 uniforms and whomever we happen to support. Even if it's 99 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:58.759 family members sitting across from you asking you to pass 100 00:06:58.800 --> 00:07:02.040 a piece of pumpkin pie, you're going to be tempted 101 00:07:02.079 --> 00:07:03.920 to throw it at someone because you think they might 102 00:07:03.959 --> 00:07:07.680 have voted differently. What that was wrong with us as 103 00:07:07.680 --> 00:07:11.680 a society. We live in a democracy which was celebrated 104 00:07:12.120 --> 00:07:16.079 through most of and will be celebrated immensely in the 105 00:07:16.120 --> 00:07:19.240 next few years, particularly as we approach the two hundred 106 00:07:19.279 --> 00:07:23.399 and fiftieth anniversary of the Battle of Bunker Battle of 107 00:07:23.439 --> 00:07:28.720 Bunker Hill, and the Battles of Lexington and conquered, and 108 00:07:28.800 --> 00:07:33.040 in twenty twenty six the signing of the Declaration of Independence? 109 00:07:35.160 --> 00:07:39.160 Is it not possible for you to remain friends with 110 00:07:39.319 --> 00:07:43.120 someone who voted differently than you? And I'm really asking 111 00:07:43.160 --> 00:07:46.839 you on a one to one basis tonight, which I've 112 00:07:46.879 --> 00:07:50.879 never done before. I've approached this before, but I'm asking 113 00:07:50.920 --> 00:07:53.639 each of you to be willing to call and bear 114 00:07:53.680 --> 00:08:01.040 your soul if you have a family member, a relative, 115 00:08:02.720 --> 00:08:10.000 a neighbor, a friend who you come to realize voted 116 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:14.920 differently than you voted for the Republican as opposed to 117 00:08:14.920 --> 00:08:17.279 the Democratic, or conversely voted for the Democrat is supposed 118 00:08:17.279 --> 00:08:20.759 to Republican. Are you going to take the advice of 119 00:08:21.519 --> 00:08:26.879 Yale Schools psychiatrist Amanda Calhoun again, This is one more 120 00:08:26.879 --> 00:08:31.360 of her soundbites with Joy Read and MSNBC cut number 121 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:33.799 eight B. Please Rob So, I. 122 00:08:33.799 --> 00:08:36.600 Love that you asked this question because you know there 123 00:08:36.679 --> 00:08:39.440 is a push I think just a societal norm that 124 00:08:39.840 --> 00:08:43.120 if somebody is your family, that they are entitled to 125 00:08:43.279 --> 00:08:46.840 your time, and I think the answer is absolutely not. 126 00:08:47.360 --> 00:08:47.519 So. 127 00:08:47.720 --> 00:08:50.159 If you are going into a situation where you have 128 00:08:50.240 --> 00:08:53.399 family members, where you have close friends who you know 129 00:08:54.240 --> 00:08:57.240 have voted in ways that are against you, like what 130 00:08:57.279 --> 00:09:02.080 you said, against your livelihood, and it's completely fine to 131 00:09:02.240 --> 00:09:04.840 not be around those people and to tell them why, 132 00:09:04.960 --> 00:09:07.039 you know, to say, I have a problem with the 133 00:09:07.080 --> 00:09:10.240 way that you voted because it went against my very 134 00:09:10.320 --> 00:09:13.039 livelihood and I'm not going to be around you this holiday. 135 00:09:13.039 --> 00:09:14.519 I need to take some space for me. 136 00:09:16.399 --> 00:09:24.720 That is psycho babel insanity. Psychle babel insanity. And I 137 00:09:24.840 --> 00:09:31.320 know from the network that this professor or doctor is 138 00:09:31.360 --> 00:09:35.399 appearing on MSNBC. I know from what perspective that is 139 00:09:35.440 --> 00:09:42.720 being offered. How how elitist is it for someone in 140 00:09:42.759 --> 00:09:45.639 your family or for you to say to someone in 141 00:09:45.679 --> 00:09:49.000 your family, I know how you voted, and because I 142 00:09:49.120 --> 00:09:52.360 now know how you voted, I want nothing to do 143 00:09:52.480 --> 00:09:56.679 with you. If you want to, if you want to 144 00:09:56.720 --> 00:10:02.759 define elitism, put this psychiat picture in the dictionary. So 145 00:10:02.799 --> 00:10:05.200 I want to hear from you if you are whoever 146 00:10:05.240 --> 00:10:08.440 you were for and if you're telling me that you 147 00:10:08.559 --> 00:10:13.679 cannot go to a family Thanksgiving dinner and at least 148 00:10:13.759 --> 00:10:18.200 treat your family members and your relatives and your friends 149 00:10:18.399 --> 00:10:24.919 and your neighbors respectfully. The election is over. It's over, okay, 150 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:32.159 And whether Professor Amanda Calhoun likes it or not, apparently 151 00:10:32.440 --> 00:10:36.320 the candidate that she voted for for president did not 152 00:10:36.519 --> 00:10:43.960 get sufficient number of votes to become the president elect, 153 00:10:44.639 --> 00:10:49.080 and that that president elect will become president. As I 154 00:10:49.159 --> 00:10:52.080 said when Joe Biden was president, he's my president. I 155 00:10:52.120 --> 00:10:55.960 had that conversation many times with some of the people 156 00:10:56.360 --> 00:11:01.120 who were continuing to question the legitimacy of the twenty 157 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:07.639 twenty election. This is a cancer within our society and 158 00:11:07.679 --> 00:11:09.799 it can be traced back. You know, this is not 159 00:11:09.840 --> 00:11:13.000 the first year. Twenty twenty wasn't the first year. Twenty 160 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:18.279 sixteen wasn't the first year. It goes back a long way. 161 00:11:18.759 --> 00:11:21.639 It goes back a long way and is destructive. So 162 00:11:21.720 --> 00:11:23.600 I'm going to open it up, and I'm hoping to 163 00:11:23.639 --> 00:11:28.159 hear from people on both sides of the political spectrum, 164 00:11:28.399 --> 00:11:34.399 an acknowledgement, an acknowledgement that guess what, you know, each 165 00:11:34.440 --> 00:11:37.039 of us have a choice in a democracy That's what 166 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:41.799 a democracy means. Each of us has a choice to make, 167 00:11:42.639 --> 00:11:48.960 and the elections over the time to criticize the new 168 00:11:48.960 --> 00:11:54.360 administration begins on January twentieth when they take office. You 169 00:11:54.399 --> 00:11:58.320 could criticize some of the cabinets elections, that's fine. But 170 00:11:58.720 --> 00:12:01.080 to say that you want to cut off relations and 171 00:12:01.120 --> 00:12:05.600 tell some family member that somehow they are not worthy 172 00:12:05.679 --> 00:12:09.080 of your time because they have a different political viewpoint? 173 00:12:09.600 --> 00:12:12.559 Is that? Where is that where this country's headed? Six 174 00:12:12.639 --> 00:12:15.200 one seven, two, five, four, ten thirty. Those lines are full. 175 00:12:15.679 --> 00:12:19.360 Six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. Let's get 176 00:12:19.399 --> 00:12:22.000 at it. And I hope to hear from people on 177 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:27.240 both sides of the aisle. Please don't disappoint me. And 178 00:12:27.480 --> 00:12:32.080 also I hope this. Remember this the only thing worse 179 00:12:32.320 --> 00:12:35.759 than a sore loser, And you can look up sore 180 00:12:35.840 --> 00:12:41.519 loser and there's Yale School psychiatrist Amanda Calhoun's picture. The 181 00:12:41.600 --> 00:12:44.039 only worse than a sore loser is a sore winner. 182 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:47.720 Remember that back on Nightside right after this. 183 00:12:48.440 --> 00:12:51.639 Now back to Dan Ray live from the Window World 184 00:12:51.720 --> 00:12:54.879 Nightside Studios on WBZ News Radio. 185 00:12:55.799 --> 00:12:58.200 Here, let's go, Let's go to Steve and Boston. Steve 186 00:12:58.200 --> 00:12:59.360 you're going to start us off tonight. 187 00:12:59.399 --> 00:13:03.240 Welcome, Hey, Dan, thanks to take my call. 188 00:13:04.559 --> 00:13:06.080 Welcome Steve. What's your thought on this? 189 00:13:07.200 --> 00:13:07.440 Hey? 190 00:13:07.519 --> 00:13:09.600 So I'm just gonna make three points and then I'll 191 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:13.360 hang up and I'll listen. But first point, my wife 192 00:13:13.399 --> 00:13:15.720 is distraught about the election, and I say to her, 193 00:13:16.240 --> 00:13:18.840 if you have a friend that's Jewish, would you not 194 00:13:18.919 --> 00:13:21.440 sit down and have Thanksgiving with them? And she said, well, 195 00:13:21.440 --> 00:13:22.919 of course I would. And I said, well, what's the 196 00:13:22.960 --> 00:13:26.080 difference if somebody has different religious views, of different political views, 197 00:13:26.519 --> 00:13:30.279 why are we Why are we making such a fuss here? 198 00:13:30.840 --> 00:13:34.320 We can agree to disagree. A few years ago, and 199 00:13:34.360 --> 00:13:36.799 I'm not a fan, but Ellen DeGeneres said something. She 200 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:39.879 went to a football game with George Bush, and all 201 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:43.799 of Ellen's fans criticized her for that, and she said, hey, 202 00:13:43.879 --> 00:13:45.840 I'm friends with the guy. He's a good guy. We 203 00:13:45.919 --> 00:13:48.720 have different political views. Why can't I still be friends 204 00:13:48.720 --> 00:13:51.919 with him? And I thought that was pretty cool. My 205 00:13:52.039 --> 00:13:55.960 last point is the society that we have is because 206 00:13:56.000 --> 00:13:58.559 we give too many voice. Too many people on the 207 00:13:58.559 --> 00:14:02.039 far right the far left the voice. They are the minority. 208 00:14:02.080 --> 00:14:04.480 The people in the middle are the majority. But we 209 00:14:04.559 --> 00:14:07.519 give the people on the extremes too much of a voice. 210 00:14:07.960 --> 00:14:09.759 I'll hang up and listen from here. Thank you. 211 00:14:09.879 --> 00:14:11.759 Well, I just don't don't hang up for a second. 212 00:14:11.799 --> 00:14:13.240 Let me just tell you I think those are three 213 00:14:13.320 --> 00:14:16.919 really interesting points, and hopefully some of our listeners will 214 00:14:17.200 --> 00:14:19.759 we hardy did I hang up? I think the points 215 00:14:19.759 --> 00:14:22.120 he made were pretty interesting. I was unfamiliar with the 216 00:14:22.120 --> 00:14:25.279 Ellen degenerous story, but that that does not surprise me. 217 00:14:27.120 --> 00:14:34.840 I think most of us are very accepting of different 218 00:14:35.399 --> 00:14:40.360 religious viewpoints that our friends might might hold. There was 219 00:14:40.399 --> 00:14:42.159 not a time, there was a time in this country 220 00:14:42.200 --> 00:14:45.879 where that was not necessarily true, okay, And I think 221 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:49.039 we have as a country we have evolved out of that. 222 00:14:49.159 --> 00:14:54.639 And I think very few people that I know hold 223 00:14:54.759 --> 00:15:01.639 any antipathy towards people because of their religious viewpoints. I 224 00:15:01.720 --> 00:15:04.399 think there are so many religious viewpoints. I mean, you know, 225 00:15:04.639 --> 00:15:07.279 someone explained to me that between an Episcopalian and a 226 00:15:07.279 --> 00:15:15.240 Presbyterian and a congregational incident whatever, that's it just is. 227 00:15:15.639 --> 00:15:19.279 It is an interesting point that Steve made. I wish 228 00:15:19.279 --> 00:15:23.440 he had had had stuck with us. The problem is 229 00:15:23.480 --> 00:15:27.960 that that sometimes sports the only thing that's analogous is 230 00:15:27.960 --> 00:15:34.000 sometimes sports fans engage in literally fisticuffs at games. Now 231 00:15:34.360 --> 00:15:38.039 generally there's a healthy portion of alcohol involved there. But 232 00:15:38.480 --> 00:15:43.240 at the top of the latter is this deep divide 233 00:15:43.440 --> 00:15:47.720 politically which the country has survived. I mean, we have 234 00:15:47.799 --> 00:15:57.159 survived Democratic and Republican presidents. We've survived presidents who you know, 235 00:15:57.440 --> 00:16:01.879 you couldn't if I mentioned the name, you know, James Garfield. 236 00:16:02.159 --> 00:16:04.279 There's not too many people who could tell me what 237 00:16:04.440 --> 00:16:08.240 year off the top of their head he was elected. Uh, 238 00:16:08.279 --> 00:16:13.720 you know, James Buchanan, whatever, Millard Fillmore. I mean, did 239 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:19.039 you survive presidents who you know, at times the country 240 00:16:19.120 --> 00:16:25.159 was growing and developing. You have, you know, great Democratic presidents. 241 00:16:26.159 --> 00:16:30.080 Franklin Roosevelt would be one that I think of immediately 242 00:16:30.159 --> 00:16:35.360 effective Democratic presidents. Bill Clinton may have had his his 243 00:16:35.360 --> 00:16:39.120 his problems, but I think he was an effective president, 244 00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:43.000 learned how to work with Republicans in Congress. Ronald Reagan, 245 00:16:44.399 --> 00:16:47.759 John Kennedy, I think they were effective presidents. Dwight eisenhowerd 246 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:53.679 Harry Truman. And again, you know, Barack Obama deported three 247 00:16:53.759 --> 00:16:57.399 million people. Uh, you got to keep that in mind. 248 00:16:57.480 --> 00:17:01.360 I don't know how many people Donald Trump hopes to deport, 249 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:05.519 how many he will deport all of those if people 250 00:17:05.680 --> 00:17:08.359 just don't I think maybe part of is we really 251 00:17:08.400 --> 00:17:11.359 don't understand politics is too complicated. Maybe I don't know. 252 00:17:12.319 --> 00:17:14.920 Well we're talking about it. I've tried to set it 253 00:17:14.960 --> 00:17:16.400 up as best I can as now up to you, 254 00:17:16.480 --> 00:17:19.200 folks six one, seven, two, five, four ten thirty or 255 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:23.440 six one seven, nine three one ten thirty. I was 256 00:17:23.519 --> 00:17:27.720 going to ask Steve. He said that his wife was despondent. 257 00:17:28.359 --> 00:17:30.160 He and his wife may have voted the same way. 258 00:17:30.559 --> 00:17:33.240 I was hoping to ask him what they were doing 259 00:17:33.240 --> 00:17:36.000 for Thanksgiving and were they going to meet with relatives. 260 00:17:36.200 --> 00:17:38.599 I mean I kind of imagine as a family in America. 261 00:17:39.119 --> 00:17:42.079 I mean an extended family in America in which all 262 00:17:42.160 --> 00:17:47.799 voted one way or the other. The exit polls defy 263 00:17:47.920 --> 00:17:54.200 that theory. The exit polls defy what Professor Amanda Calhoun 264 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:59.839 was spouting to Joy Read on MSNBC. Back on Nightside, 265 00:17:59.839 --> 00:18:02.000 here's the news. We'll pick it up right after this. 266 00:18:06.000 --> 00:18:10.720 It's Night Side with Boston's news Radio. 267 00:18:12.200 --> 00:18:15.400 All right, back to the phones we go, Let's go toos. 268 00:18:15.559 --> 00:18:20.000 Up next, Joe and Walpole. Joe, you're next on Nightside. Welcome, Yes, 269 00:18:20.160 --> 00:18:23.799 Hi Dan, how you doing I'm going fine. The question 270 00:18:24.000 --> 00:18:27.200 is how are families going to do this Thanksgiving? I mean, 271 00:18:27.759 --> 00:18:30.000 I know there'll be someone to say, well, we do God, 272 00:18:30.000 --> 00:18:33.440 I have any political conversations. I think that's a cop out. 273 00:18:34.519 --> 00:18:39.680 Yeah, well, I think political conversations at family dinners are 274 00:18:39.720 --> 00:18:43.400 are a relatively natural thing. Listen, Dan, We're a highly 275 00:18:43.440 --> 00:18:46.960 political country, and and that and that can and and 276 00:18:47.000 --> 00:18:50.839 that can be very healthy. Some of the most bright 277 00:18:50.920 --> 00:18:58.079 ideas came from the founding fathers talking about political ideas 278 00:18:58.519 --> 00:19:02.240 in the bar room back during the revolution. So there 279 00:19:02.279 --> 00:19:07.720 shouldn't be anything wrong with families talking politics. But I 280 00:19:07.720 --> 00:19:11.160 think where the main problem comes from in our country 281 00:19:11.359 --> 00:19:15.279 is and this is a relatively new thing. I studied 282 00:19:15.279 --> 00:19:18.400 a lot of history in high school in college, and 283 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:20.839 I think a lot of it comes from there's this 284 00:19:21.039 --> 00:19:24.440 fear mongering that's starting to happen, and I think it's 285 00:19:24.440 --> 00:19:30.000 started in the eighties about where the candidates in the 286 00:19:30.079 --> 00:19:35.839 media can make you believe that your brother, if they 287 00:19:35.920 --> 00:19:40.960 voted for Trump, hates everybody hates everybody that's not white, 288 00:19:41.799 --> 00:19:46.839 or if your sister voted for Kamala, she hates white men. 289 00:19:47.480 --> 00:19:50.359 And I think that's it's very strange and I think 290 00:19:50.440 --> 00:19:54.279 that's where that lady you were talking about. I think 291 00:19:54.319 --> 00:19:57.680 that's where she goes wrong. Oh you need a break 292 00:19:57.720 --> 00:20:01.599 from your family because of their political view. Well, if 293 00:20:01.640 --> 00:20:04.640 you don't spend time with your family, and all you 294 00:20:04.680 --> 00:20:06.720 can think in the back of your brain is all 295 00:20:06.880 --> 00:20:09.680 day voted for so and so, how are you gonna 296 00:20:10.480 --> 00:20:16.559 build your relationships. I went to California over the summer 297 00:20:17.119 --> 00:20:19.920 last year for a wedding, and my side of the 298 00:20:19.920 --> 00:20:22.880 family that lives here in Massachusetts, including myself, a lot 299 00:20:22.920 --> 00:20:27.039 of them are Republicans. But I went to my mother's 300 00:20:27.039 --> 00:20:31.000 side of the family, who are quite liberal. They're all Democrats. 301 00:20:31.799 --> 00:20:36.000 And you know, looking back on my cousin and I's relationship, 302 00:20:36.039 --> 00:20:39.200 we had some pretty bad back and forth on Facebook, 303 00:20:39.599 --> 00:20:42.319 and both sides are guilty. And you know what, I'm 304 00:20:42.359 --> 00:20:45.119 so embarrassed. And I said to him, Hey, let's put 305 00:20:45.119 --> 00:20:48.160 this aside. We're not going to agree on anything, but 306 00:20:48.440 --> 00:20:52.279 let's enjoy our time together as a family. 307 00:20:54.240 --> 00:20:56.880 Yeah. I mean, that's one way to go about it. Obviously. 308 00:20:56.960 --> 00:20:58.799 The other way to go about it is say, hey, look, 309 00:21:00.319 --> 00:21:02.440 all points of view are welcome here. Do what we 310 00:21:02.519 --> 00:21:04.519 try to do. One nights, I give everybody a chance 311 00:21:04.839 --> 00:21:10.240 to talk about it. I mean, I can. Obviously, there 312 00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:14.680 was a lot of anger after the twenty twenty election. 313 00:21:14.839 --> 00:21:17.720 We saw it played out in Washington, d C. Sadly, 314 00:21:18.839 --> 00:21:22.720 and there were, you know, allegations that that turned out 315 00:21:22.759 --> 00:21:26.039 not to be true, the election was stolen, et cetera. 316 00:21:26.440 --> 00:21:31.000 We just ran a very reasonable, rational, competent election. I 317 00:21:31.039 --> 00:21:34.240 don't think there's anyone running around right now saying that 318 00:21:34.319 --> 00:21:38.000 the twenty twenty four presidential election was fixed. I think 319 00:21:38.519 --> 00:21:41.880 Democrats are admitting Trump won. There were a lot of 320 00:21:41.960 --> 00:21:46.240 Republicans that did not admit that Biden won in twenty twenty. 321 00:21:46.640 --> 00:21:52.000 Shame on them. And kudos to President Biden for meeting 322 00:21:52.119 --> 00:21:56.039 President Trump the other day and spending some time with him, 323 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:00.039 even though the language that they both used during the 324 00:22:00.160 --> 00:22:03.559 campaign was above was beneath the office they that they 325 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:06.400 both ones held correct. 326 00:22:06.599 --> 00:22:09.839 Correct, No, you hit it right on the head there. 327 00:22:10.599 --> 00:22:15.000 You know, we can all learn from the interaction between 328 00:22:15.240 --> 00:22:19.319 President Biden and President elect Trump. I mean, if them 329 00:22:19.400 --> 00:22:24.640 two guys can uh somehow forge an understanding, I think 330 00:22:24.680 --> 00:22:31.680 that the gen Z grand grandchild can form a path 331 00:22:31.759 --> 00:22:32.839 with their grandparents. 332 00:22:33.799 --> 00:22:36.680 Couldn't agree with it more very nice nicely said Joe, 333 00:22:37.519 --> 00:22:38.200 Thank you much. 334 00:22:38.160 --> 00:22:40.880 Appreciate your time, Thank you my call. Have a good night. 335 00:22:41.319 --> 00:22:44.279 You're more than welcome. Thank you for joining us. Ladies, 336 00:22:44.319 --> 00:22:46.279 don't let this one be dominated by the men. I 337 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:51.200 want to hear women's voices on this. Whomever you voted for, whomever, 338 00:22:51.319 --> 00:22:53.119 and if you disagree with me, I mean, if you 339 00:22:53.319 --> 00:22:56.759 just contolerate the thought of being in the same room 340 00:22:56.839 --> 00:23:00.599 or in the same house with someone who's political viewpoints 341 00:23:00.680 --> 00:23:06.799 are different than yours, and and resulted in I guess, uh, 342 00:23:07.559 --> 00:23:14.319 each of you eliminating the value of your vote was 343 00:23:14.319 --> 00:23:18.759 was in effect compromised by the vote of something. Maybe 344 00:23:18.799 --> 00:23:21.000 that's what it is down deep. They think that somehow 345 00:23:21.480 --> 00:23:24.079 their vote is more important. I don't think so. I 346 00:23:24.119 --> 00:23:27.559 don't think so. Let me go to Rick in North Reading. Rick, 347 00:23:27.640 --> 00:23:29.079 you were next on nightside. Welcome. 348 00:23:30.359 --> 00:23:32.480 Hey, Hey Dan, how are you good? 349 00:23:32.559 --> 00:23:32.759 Sir? 350 00:23:34.119 --> 00:23:34.319 Good? 351 00:23:34.599 --> 00:23:42.519 Uh, yeah, you're doing well great, Thanks thanks for asking. Yeah, 352 00:23:42.640 --> 00:23:44.440 I just want to talk a little bit about what 353 00:23:44.519 --> 00:23:47.839 happened over the weekend. I was actually gathering with my friends, right, 354 00:23:47.880 --> 00:23:53.480 and apparently we're talking about the conversa Kamala and uh, 355 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:56.759 I don't actually remember who exactly that I voted for. 356 00:23:57.519 --> 00:23:59.960 But I did hear a lot of my friends there's 357 00:24:00.039 --> 00:24:04.480 super upset for trom winning election and all that, and. 358 00:24:04.240 --> 00:24:06.720 You don't waste you don't remember who you voted for. 359 00:24:07.960 --> 00:24:11.960 Yeah, because we're wearing Massachusett, right because regardless, it's always 360 00:24:11.960 --> 00:24:12.799 going to be a Democrat. 361 00:24:13.000 --> 00:24:15.440 So oh, no questions about that. But I would think 362 00:24:15.480 --> 00:24:17.599 you still would remember who you vote. But that's okay. 363 00:24:17.680 --> 00:24:19.279 Maybe I do remember. 364 00:24:19.359 --> 00:24:21.880 I do remember I voted no to question two though, 365 00:24:22.519 --> 00:24:23.720 That's what I do remember. 366 00:24:24.400 --> 00:24:27.119 Okay, so that was important to you. Okay, fine, so 367 00:24:27.119 --> 00:24:29.599 so go ahead, continue to stro. I didn't mean to 368 00:24:29.640 --> 00:24:30.519 interrupt your go ahead? 369 00:24:31.359 --> 00:24:35.720 Yeah, right, right? Uh so I think they so a 370 00:24:35.759 --> 00:24:38.599 lot of my friends, I would say a majority of 371 00:24:38.759 --> 00:24:43.839 my friend there are Harris supporter, right And to me myself, 372 00:24:44.039 --> 00:24:46.440 I'm more like independent, I would say. And I do 373 00:24:46.599 --> 00:24:49.480 understand where they're coming from. And I do have a 374 00:24:49.000 --> 00:24:52.119 lot of other friends that are supporting Trumba, and I 375 00:24:52.160 --> 00:24:55.039 do understand where they're coming from. And I think in 376 00:24:55.079 --> 00:24:58.880 this country, even though what people may have different political 377 00:24:58.880 --> 00:25:01.480 point of view, but we can still be friends. It's 378 00:25:01.559 --> 00:25:06.599 just that when we're talking about instead of debating or 379 00:25:06.680 --> 00:25:10.880 being angry, we're just we're just chat about what's going 380 00:25:10.960 --> 00:25:13.799 to happen to our life. What are some of implications 381 00:25:13.839 --> 00:25:17.720 from that? And to me, I feel like what we 382 00:25:17.759 --> 00:25:20.599 really should do is to keep whatever we have in common, 383 00:25:20.920 --> 00:25:25.359 and we embrace that, and we just leave whatever we have, 384 00:25:26.000 --> 00:25:35.000 whatever the differences we have, to ourselves. That's how I feel, Yeah, myself, 385 00:25:35.079 --> 00:25:37.119 And go ahead. 386 00:25:37.200 --> 00:25:41.000 I said, I wish more people felt like like you felt. 387 00:25:41.240 --> 00:25:44.519 You said that you're an immigrant. What country did you 388 00:25:44.559 --> 00:25:45.759 come here from? If I could ask? 389 00:25:46.400 --> 00:25:46.559 Uh? 390 00:25:46.839 --> 00:25:51.079 From China? So what happened? Yeah? What happened in China 391 00:25:51.200 --> 00:25:54.880 is that you don't actually have a freedom to speech, right. 392 00:25:55.160 --> 00:25:58.319 You can't really. 393 00:25:59.640 --> 00:26:01.799 Unless you're a party member, that's for sure. 394 00:26:02.839 --> 00:26:06.240 Yeah. Yeah, and you basically you don't actually have your 395 00:26:06.279 --> 00:26:09.160 freedom to express whatever the politic or idea you have. 396 00:26:09.839 --> 00:26:12.599 And what I'm hoping for is that we don't turn 397 00:26:12.640 --> 00:26:15.039 the country I'm living in right now to the countries 398 00:26:15.039 --> 00:26:15.759 that I moved out of. 399 00:26:17.279 --> 00:26:20.279 How difficult was it for you to get out of China? 400 00:26:20.279 --> 00:26:21.519 I'm just curious. 401 00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:25.440