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It's Tuesday at nine am, so you know what that means.
Gonna catch up now with our guy Nick Underhill, New
Orleans Dot Football.
Speaker 3: Nick, what is going on? Sir? How you doing?
Speaker 4: Not much? I got a tribute question for you guys,
and I'm it's not on the show today.
Speaker 3: Matt here, I mean he is official, all right.
Speaker 4: So the Saints do not have a quarterback on their
roster that has won a game. They do not have
a coach on their roster that has won a game.
Doug dus Smeyer, hell of Moore, Scott Bus. They have
one tie though, between the whole group, four quarterbacks, three coaches.
Do you know how that how that game ended in
a tie? Any anybody there?
Speaker 2: They've had so they've had they've had a tie, but
they have not had a win, which, by the way, Nick,
that's a fascinating stat.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, I'm all right. So of the names
that you just threw out there, I know who is.
Speaker 2: So Scott Tolzen was my teammate and Flynn's teammate.
Speaker 3: So Flynn, I'm gonna I'm gonna phone a friend here.
Speaker 5: So you're saying they haven't had a win as a quarterback.
Speaker 3: Right in the league, but they've had a tie.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's an easy one. Twenty thirteen Packers versus Vikings.
Scott told they started played the first half. Yeah, yeah,
it was it twenty to seven. I don't even know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it was twenty to seven.
Speaker 5: Yeah. Then I came in in the second half and
we came back. This is Christian Ponder was the quarterback
for the Biker. He comes in the game and yeah,
we we go back and we tie him. We go
to overtime and yeah, then we just wait we Pillow fied,
why did you not start the game? I just got back.
I was Oakland, went to Buffalo and then they assigned me.
So that was Seneca Wallace started for Aaron after he
got hurt. And then Scott. Yeah, Scott actually so Tolsine
had like one of the sickest spin moves for a
touchdown as a quarterback you've ever seen in that game.
And so we tied the game, and a meet Christian
Ponder in the middle of the field and we look
at each other and we're like, I guess we tied.
All right, good game? I think I don't know.
Speaker 3: What a poll though?
Speaker 5: What all?
Speaker 3: That's fascinating.
Speaker 2: They don't have a win, but the fact that you
pulled a Scott Tolzen started a game that ended in
a tie. There, So great trivia question, maybe a little
worry some slash troublesome for the Saints movie.
Speaker 4: For it's kind of impossible to have like four quarterbacks
on the league. I mean, they got Taysoon, who has seven,
but he's not really a quarterback anymore. So it's just
kind of it's like an unbelievable circumstance. I think the
brain power in the building is unbelievable, and it's just
kind of weird that, like they got one tie. It's
a Matt Flynn colog.
Speaker 3: Let's go six degrees of Matt Flynn six degrees.
Speaker 5: I guess that's like, let me follow up on that.
So Scott Tolzen, quarterback coach for for the Saints this
year has had really cool career, has been with kind
of the Mike McCarthy coaching tree, of course, with the
relationship in Green Bay playing for Mike and then in
Dallas and and so have you been able to interact
to seeing the interaction like what have you heard coming
out of him? Because he's got a big job this year.
Of course everybody that you just listed head coach, OC
and quarterback, but Scott Tolsen is going to be the
guy with these guys every single minute of every single day,
breaking down every single practice film and the first line
of coaching these guys. So have you will give me
your opinion on him and what you've seen so far?
Speaker 4: Yeah, he looks scir so far. I mean it's kind
of refreshing a little bit to be around him to
like it's just been kind of like a weird this
quarterback setup, like just just the whole offense in general,
I don't know, like just these guys as a group
from top to bottom, just like the intellectual curiosity, the
way they talk about the game, the way they approach things,
kind of seeing like a a like refreshing, interactive approach.
Maybe maybe a younger approach to kind of coaching. I
don't know if that makes sense, but it was kind
of more like stuffy. The last couple of years, Kubak
offense changed a little bit, and Janoko we've seen some
of that, But I don't know Tod. He just he
has the experience. He speaks from that place. He kind
of leads the group in a a in a way
that you kind of just see it a little bit.
For us, it's the most evasive interview of all time.
It got canceled like three times. He eventually talked to us.
But yeah, I just think he's I think he's smart,
and I think he sees the game the right way,
and I think these guys are responding to it right
now to and just the speed that we're seeing Tyler
Shuck develop with. Like you know, obviously he comes in,
he's an older, older player, twenty six. Its gonna be
twenty six, you know, you kind of expect that a
little bit. But like the growth, practice to practice, Like
you know, I've been around some some of these guys
coming in. I was in New England when Bryan Mallett
was there. Jimmy Garoppolo, Garrett Grayce is down here. Just
don't Jakyne or Spencer Ratlery going down the list like
like Shucks Like practice to practice improvement, I think is
something that kind of stands out right now and some
of the stuff, you know, I'm here from the players
out there. The last practice last week they did red
zone and like they're saying that was the best practice
he's had so far. They said he lit it up.
You know, players are like excited about him, and you know,
I just think, you know, the first time we went
out there, it looked like stuff was happening kind of
like really slow for Shuck, And again, I think you
kind of expect that first oka practicing. I guess it
was his third, but you know, by the time we
go out there, it's practice six for him the second time,
and you see the improvement and then you know you're
here and that there's more happening behind the scenes, and
I think they just kind of probably speaks to the
quality of the coaching and how they're bringing them along
and you know, breaking it down, and you know, tol
Zine is obviously at the forefront of that, and I
think he's a really interesting guy too, because you know,
if they have a good offensive staff, like that's the
position that's probably the launch pad on this staff for
someone to go on and move on. I don't I
don't really see nuts Meyer. I don't know. I think
he's probably gonna, you know, stay in his role, but
but that could be a good, you know, a good
launching spot if if they do have success here. So
I think he's kind of like, you know, outside of
the Collen Moore and Saley, I think he's kind of
the most interesting guy on the staff right now.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's kind of cool. When you said that, it
was refreshing to see the coaches kind of talking ball
like what will work, trying to build and create this
offense based on what they're seeing. They What you don't
want is a coach set in his ways being like, no,
this is how we're gonna do it.
Speaker 3: I don't care the skill set.
Speaker 5: So like to me, Saints fans, that's something that's really
refreshing and like cool to look at, especially with two
young quarterbacks, which brings me to my next question. Like,
I've always thought that the progression in the jump from
year one to year two for a quarterback was the
most important in the career. So you got to guy
Spencer Rattler who came in and had had some moments.
I've always kind of been a guy ever since he
was in college that thought he had a skill set
that he could make it in the NFL. I don't
know if it's a you know, a long term starter
or what, but I've always thought that he could make it.
But he had some moments last year kind of putting
some unfair positions. Really, I mean, the team wasn't great,
the offense wasn't great, so we the to me, the
jury is still out, but I saw things that gave
me hope that he could be a good starting quarterback.
So but that year one to two jump is so
so important for an NFL quarterback. Like, how has he
been at practice? I've heard good things, but you've seen
it first Tam.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm I'm you know, I'm excited about what he
can do. So the other thing last year to just
kind of the situation he was in, it almost felt
like they just ran out of steam, like coaching wise,
halfway through every game because like there just wasn't There's
only so much you can overcome. You can only hide
being down so many offensive lim and so many receivers,
quarterback Alvin Kamara's not out there, and it's like they
would throw everything at it, and then it would hit
a point in the third quarter where it was just
like they got solved and there there was just nothing left.
And I don't think that was necessarily a rattler thing.
I think that was just part of the situation too,
that that you know, kobyak could only he don only
overcome like seven starters being down for you know, thirty minutes,
it seemed like, and that was the expiration on the time,
and then it would fall apart in the second half.
But you see the growth like it's just happening for him,
like so much, so much quicker, like everything's on rhythm,
you know, three step drop, back foot hits, fall out
like you know shock his backfoot hits, kind of processing
it a little. And that's the difference between year one
and year two, I think with these guys. And it's
not like he's just like dinking and dunkin either, Like
he's attacking like aggressively, but taking what defense is giving
him decisions. Seemed he sounds like he's carrying himself much
more confidently. You see him kind of, you know, stepping
up in a little bit more of a vocal leadership
out there on the field with which I like to see.
And man, I think you just see the chip on
his shoulder too, Like it's immense, Like he knows that
they're trying to replace him. It happened to him in college.
He lost his you know, stature and identity is to
be one in the nation, the Caleb Williams, and you know,
it's kind of a repeat of the same story here,
and I think a he's drawing off that experience and
is handling it much better. I think part of the
reason he was the fifth rounder is because when that happened,
he kind of, you know, his his emotions kind of
dictated how he reacted to it, and I think people
looked at that negatively. And I think this time he's
just taking it as a challenge while still leading his
team and you know, kind of embracing what's going on.
I'm sure behind the scenes he's he's probably pissed off
and extremely motivated by it, but I think he's just
handling it, you know, in a much more mature way.
And I I really like I'm really encouraged by what
we're seeing at him. I think when push comes to shove,
like they're already trying to you know, obviously replace and
they pick the guy with the fortieth pick, they want
him to be the starter. But I think I think
Rattler's like fighting hard. He looks good.
Speaker 5: He does.
Speaker 4: He looks really good right now.
Speaker 2: I'm curious, like what they're looking for in their starting quarterback.
Quarterback coach coordinator, head coach all going to be in
the decision to who is the starting quarterback. But and
you're right, like it does feel like Spencer Ratler has
raised his game. We know he's got the talent. That's
why he was talked about being a first round pick
early in his college career.
Speaker 3: I'm curious, like, what's going to.
Speaker 2: Be the thing, Like, what's gonna because you got a
rookie quarterback, a second year quarterback, and a third year quarterback. Okay,
so you don't have this veteran quarterback that you can
kind of lean on. Everybody's kind of for the you
know the most part, on the same level, certainly with
Tyler Shubb being the age that he is. So like,
I'm curious, and I'll ask both of you this, Like,
what do we think they're looking for? Like, what is
the thing that they want to get out of their
starting quarterback that's going to side this battle?
Speaker 4: I'll look for it on this one.
Speaker 5: Well that's the cool thing about having a new head coach, right, yeah,
and a young staff like this, at least from like
the offensive standpoint and directly with the quarterbacks, you don't
really know, like we know what kind of offense Kellen
likes to run, right, But he's never been the dude
in charge of making all decisions. Right, He's like, all right,
I'll coach whatever whatever you whoever you want to play,
and now he gets to make this. So you really
don't know the exact things they're looking for. But any
head coach, if you're picking a starting quarterback in the
National Football League, you're looking for a guy that is
is what you just kind of explain Nick on how
how Spencer's both of them are really looking but you
avoiding the mistakes, being able to take control a guy
that everybody when they get in the huddle, they trust
and they feel that he's going to make the right
decisions and the skill guys feel like he's going to
give me the ball if I get open. This guy
can get me the ball at any point and make
the right decision, right offensive line. This guy is the
guy that can get me in the right protection that
I can be successful because the end of the day,
everybody wants to be individually successful and a lot of
it rides on the quarterback getting you in the right position,
getting you the ball when you do your job, yeah,
and being confident with it. But at the end of
the day, not making mistakes. So those are that's a
big right, those are big.
Speaker 3: But nick like, I'm curious too, like whoever wins the job,
Like what's that leash? Like you know what I mean?
Like how are we all in?
Speaker 2: Or we're like, hey, we're gonna go through some lumps,
We're gonna go through some growing pains. Because again, the
fascinating part to me is everybody's young and talented. They
got young, talented guys, but there's nothing to like say, hey,
you know what, remember a couple of years ago, Spencer
went through this.
Speaker 3: He found his way and he turned it all around.
Speaker 2: When you don't have that to lean on, like you're wondering, Okay, well,
if Spencer doesn't have a great two game stretch, are
they going to go to Tallas Shuck? And if Talas
Shuck's like that is what I'm curious about. What are
they looking for in their starting quarterback and how committed
are they going to be to that quarterback?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think that's the most fascinating thing. And then
just even just like as far as this battle plays out,
like how soon do you make a decision? Because you
look at last year Derek Carr through two hundred and
sixty seven passes and team drills and practice, like if
you split that up, if you're rotating, you're down to
like what one hundred and thirty he threw sixty to
Krysal lave Rashiji Nith sometimes so Carl only through eighteen passes.
Dam Like you get some injuries in camp and you're rotating,
and now guys are going back and forth, and you know,
one day you're you're throwing the Chris Tyrie and the
next day you're throwing the Crystal lab Like I would
like them to just kind of settle into like something
early and if it is shucked, I hope they just
believe in whatever they saw that made them draft him
at at forty and once they see it, I hope
they kind of shift that way and go all in
forwards it because it should just be all about the development,
and it should be about the inconsistencies. And if shuts
your starter and he has two bad games, I don't
think you just pulled the hook out, like I think
you just kind of got to ride it with him.
And I think part of the season two should just
really be about finding out what you got with these guys,
because look, if they're not good and you're drafting top
five next year, or even if they are good, you
should still be evaluating him against the top you know,
if you're picking top five, like you should be evaluating
them against Club Nick and nus Meyer and Sellers and
you know whoever the unknown quarterback is that we aren't
talking about yet, that's gonna end up being a top
ten pick like those I think that that should be
the whole thing. But like, whatever, whatever you liked about him,
whatever you know, led you to draft them at forty
and say this guy is better than Spencer Ratler, He's
gonna be like be believing them. Like, I don't think
that you should just do the battle and play it
out through three preseason games just because you feel like
everybody is owed something. I think you owe it to
the team if you see something that kind of lean
into it. I mean, look, you guys can speak on
that better than me, but like, I just think that
like getting that timing down and if you're all in
on it, like it's like, hey, it's August seventh, or
you go through the first preseason game, Shocklof's abazing. He
looked great all camp, Like all right, he's gonna get
start too, and we're going all in with this. I
just think that could be beneficial to you know, the
possibility of success during the season if you settle that
as soon as you can.
Speaker 2: One more things that I certainly want to ask you
about Nick before we let you go, And of course
we're catching up with our guy Nick Underhill New Orleans
dot Football here on OTB. The offensive line. We talked
about it a couple of weeks ago. We were curious
what they were going to do because you had, you know,
three first round tackles and you had a first round
guard and like, how are you going to all mix
it all together? Well, Trevor Pinning has been wrapping at
left guard, and so if that is something that ends
up being the deal. You're gonna have four first rounders
in a second rounder on that offensive line, and it's
something that again we speculated, would they move Pinning inside
what he played guard? It looks like, man, there's a
real opportunity for him to do that. What does the
offensive line look like to you? If it ends up
being Pinning a guard? Where we're going to go like
left to right right now as we see there, Like
I know it is June the third, but if you
had to go left to right right now, what does
it look like?
Speaker 4: It looks like Fuaga, Penning, McCoy Ruiz and then Fuaga
at the at the other end. I said that back
Banks Penning.
Speaker 3: Yeah, right right on the left.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Look, I'm probably the most unreliable narrator there is on Penning,
because like I've doubted him every step of the way,
and he's figured out, you know, last year, how to
be decent. You know, I never thought he'd be fit
for guard, but I guess, like I could see the
theory on it. If everything works out, it it makes sense.
You put him in the phone booth, you put the
bumpers on him, you put a good player on each side.
You let him just be big as hell in there.
You know. I hope that he can be quick enough
to pick up on the inside moves and uh you
get in the rung game and he can go out
and mall like it does. It does make sense in
some fashion, but like just watching him throughout the years,
like it just feels like when things popping fast, it's
a problem for him. So I don't know what it's
gonna end up looking like. But if it works, I mean, man,
like the theory of this line. If Banks is who
we think he is, Ifkuaga plays a little bit better
than he did last year, gets back on the right,
gets some continuity on the line, like their offensive line
last year, their starters, the starting five only played twenty
percent of the snaps together through through the whole season,
which you know, I think that's really hard, Like you're
trying to do combo blocks and all this stuff, Like
there's no communication, there's no non verbal communication. It's just
it just seems like a recipe for disasters. So if
they get some continuity there, they get their starters playing
I don't know, fifty eight percent of the snatch something
like that, you know, I think I think it helps
a lot, and if those guys are all decent, I
think they can have a really good offensive line. But
I think health is really like the biggest part of it.
Last year, using that number fifty eight percent, the eight
teams that had their players play fifty eight percent of
the stats on the line all made the playoffs. Like
it just you can keep those guys on the field
and you have a whole match of first rounders and
in a great second rounder, man, like if they play
up to their potential, like the bar really should be
for them to have like a top tier unit in
the league. Like the investment is unprecedented almost you know,
the Eagles are close, but they got you know, their
their Hall of Fame tackle in the seventh round, which
is better than a first round investment. But like, not
many teams like inventions like that line. So it should
work out. And if it doesn't, I mean, I think
the spotlight shines on everybody in the organization top to bottom,
like like there's just too much there for it to
not be a good, good unit out of fall.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I agree with you wholeheartedly. He is Nick Underhill,
New Orleans.
Speaker 2: Dot Football is the website at Nick underscore underheel is
the handle there?
Speaker 5: Hold on, Nick, one word answer here and we're going
to hold this to you. Hold your feet to the fire.
Prediction A right, way too early prediction Game one? Who's
the quarterback? Shuck?
Speaker 3: There it is.
Speaker 2: First, it was cursing because you asked him the question.
He said, shuck ah, got you Okay, there he is shown, Nick,
I can tell you this all right. So I've actually
been talking with Tyler Shuck and we've been like going
back and forth about getting him on the show, and
like every time I talk to him, he's like, hey, man,
I'm in the facility or like hey, I got to
go to the facility and it's like late at night.
And so I don't think it's lip service, like he
is doing everything he possibly can do to go win
that job.
Speaker 3: As a rookie.
Speaker 4: No that we've been going through the same thing and
he's just like, I'm too focused right now I'm doing this.
So yeah, I mean absolutely, like I think he's locked in.
I think he's he's doing everything he can and uh,
before I go, no, guys, no sucking up here, like mad,
I'm happy here on here man, Like I always thought
you were one of the more interesting players I ever
covered and interviewed in the locker room, So like, I'm
excited to hear what you got to say every mark.
Speaker 5: Yeah, thanks dude. I appreciate it, man, it means a lot.
And looking forward to talking to you every.
Speaker 3: Week, no doubt. Yes, sir, stop it up, all right, Nick,
you're the man. We appreciate it, sir, look forward next week. Yep,
all right, you as well.
Speaker 2: Nick Underhill, New Orleanstoff Football. He pretty much just said
you're a.
Speaker 5: Weirdo basically, thanks Nick, kidding.
Speaker 2: Yeah, when I interviewed you, that was real. That was
very nice, very nice, very nice of him. Just wait
till you prove them wrong.
Speaker 5: Let me tell you that what what.
Speaker 3: Let me tell you what.
Speaker 5: I was nothing Spencer Rattler when he said is you
might be playing pissed off in a chip on my shoulder.
Let me tell you that's a very powerful thing. So
it wouldn't shock me one bit if he did end
up being a starter and had good year.
Speaker 2: It is something like it is something that I know
that you used in your career. I used him good
ones do.
Speaker 3: Actually, let's take a break.
Speaker 2: I do want to talk about that because it's a
great point that you made the first one so far.
I want to talk about that when we come back
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Speaker 2: So I do want to make this point because you
made it and it's at decent point.
Speaker 3: Not a good one, but a decent one.
Speaker 2: When you were talking about Spencer and you know, knowing
that they brought somebody in to replace you, and what
that can do for you. There's two things that can do.
It can either make you crumble because you're so insecure
and you're like, oh my god, my replacements here. I'm done,
and I've seen a lot of people at LSU and
San Diego and Denver have that feeling. Or it can
piss you off and it can bring out something that
you've been missing now.
Speaker 5: And then I'll being pissed off as such an extremely
powerful motivator. Or just like you said, it can crush you.
Speaker 3: It can, and I'm just giving you my example.
Speaker 2: My career, I always felt like no matter if it
was at Evangel or LSU or even San Diego, somebody
was always like brought in to replace me, Like at
even at a Angel, Like that's why we joke around.
But like I was playing d line and linebacker because
like there was a daddy ball situation and and and
I couldn't get over to running back and I wanted to.
Speaker 3: And that's what that was my fuel there.
Speaker 2: And then at LSU, we all know they brought in
five star after five star running back, like they were like,
we're going to force the two star bow legg and
white running back to prove us that he can go
out there and still be the start.
Speaker 3: But that that fueled me. Now, that didn't mean I
was a bad teammate either.
Speaker 2: I was still going like, Hey, my boys, Richard Murphy,
Charles Scott Keeling, Williams, Steven Ridley, go on and on
and on. Dudes, they were my boys, and I was
going to be the best teammate I could. I wasn't
gonna be that guy that's like, I'm not helping you.
You're trying to take No, I'll help you, but I'm
still going to keep my job. You're not taking it
from me. You can have it when I'm gone, and
I'll watch you and I'll cheer for you. And hey,
when I'm tired and I pass at the top of
my helmet, you can come in and get a couple
of carries for sure, because you're good, right, You're gonna
held with the team if I'm not at a one hundred, Like,
come in here and get these carries like there's a
way to be pissed off and go about it where
you're not a bad teammate too.
Speaker 3: Yep.
Speaker 2: So I had that situation when I was in San Diego.
They bring in fullbacks all the time. One of my boys,
Patrick DeMarco, who ended up playing having a long, long
NFL career, they brought him in. We're trying to replace
me and Tolbert with him, right. We brought in a
guy named Frank Summers. They tried to every year that happened,
and I loved it. Who y'all bringing in? I loved
if they were working out like hvax on a Monday
morning when I came in, who's on that field?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 2: They went Okay, it takes you to another level if
you can get there. If you can't, they're gonna take
your job. But if you can do that while still
being the best teammate, being good in the locker room,
not being a cancer. Just realized like, Hey, if I'm
Spencer Ratler, Tyler Shuckman, I am glad they drafted you.
Speaker 3: That's what I needed. But this is my job. Now.
Speaker 2: We'll watch film together, we'll break down coverages together. I
will help you you'll help me, that's fine, but just
know this is my motivation to be the guy.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and for Spencer Ratler to go through the things
he had to do last year, being such a depleted team,
such a bad team last year, and for the court
of public opinion that actually, like thinks he still got
a shot when he did all that as a starting
quarterback as a rookie, and means that he's got something
to him. Yeah, he's got some juice, He's got potential.
People see it because there was those flashes. Okay, when
you talk about the Saints drafting a second round pick
and Shuck, a talented guy, people are going to get
caught up. And they drafted him to replace They drafted
him to be the starter. No, they drafted him so
they could have a good starting quarterback. Yeah, right right, Yeah,
it doesn't have to be the last name shuck if
it pisses the other guy off enough to be the
best guy. It was a great draft pick. Yeah, great
draft pick. I said this about I'm going to bring
up the Packers a lot. But when the Packers drafted
Jordan Love, you know, okay, they didn't. Of course, they
drafted like a long term replacement. But I say, the
great ones always use it as motivation. Yeah, what did
Aaron do after they drafted a massive year? I think
two MVPs in a row? Yeah, say right, yep in
the twilight. Yeah, it's a motivator and it's powerful. So,
like I said, they drafted a second round pick to
have a good quarterback. Yep, doesn't matter which one it is.
Speaker 2: Right in the front office, they know that, like, okay,
well we just want a great starting quarterback, right, And so,
like I know, there's a lot of people, there's a
lot of fans. Way, man, you draft this guy fortieth overall,
and maybe it is Tyler Shuck, But if it's not,
just know that you're getting the best version of Spencer
Rattler as well. Now I don't think Jay Canterer's in
this conversation. It's Spencer Rattler, it's Tyler Shuck. It's those
two guys.
Speaker 5: When I got drafted, they they picked the second rounder
quarterback and they picked me in the seventh round. Now,
the common person out there would have been like, all right, well,
the second rounder got paid all this money. Seventh rounder
didn't get paid any money, and so you make him
the backup, and if you don't do that, then like
you just wasted two million dollars or whatever it is
whatever you got paid as the second round. Yeah, not really,
it's the same. You spent the money already.
Speaker 3: You're not paying anybody anything right now.
Speaker 5: They've got this guy for nearly nothing.
Speaker 3: Yeah, you got peanuts right now in the Spencer Rattler.
Speaker 2: Peanuts, dude. So it's gonna be a great competition. I
don't know what the overall look is going to be
for the New Orleans Saints. The roster's got more issues
and vote, without question it does. You were so thin
as far as your weapons, A receiver, running backs better
than it was. I like some of the people you've
brought in through the draft through undrafted free agent guys.
Speaker 3: I like Clyde being there.
Speaker 2: Receiver is so thin, man, you are like one injury
away from having guys off the street, having uber drivers
again like you had last year. Defense is a little
bit older. So the roster is what the roster is.
But I do like the fact that you've got a
quarterback competition that is going to be a real competition.
They're going to drive each other. You have a veteran
even though he's a rookie because he is older. It's
not a joke. I mean, he's about to be twenty
six years old. He gets it, he understands it. So
he's not going to pout throughout the process. Spencer Ratlers
is not going to pount throughout the process. If they're
doing it right, what we're talking about, if you.
Speaker 5: Power, you lose. Yeah, if it's cutting, you're not going
to be there. It doesn't sound like it. It sounds no,
it doesn't. It sounds like they're saying. But for Saints fans,
it sounds like the good part of this is happening
and they're going to push each other. I mean, I'm
I'm excited. I'm we're not even Saints Pete like fans
over here. No, but we're going to give him the
best shot for sure. But you know, you guys, listen
to note Jake and I like, we'll call them out
pretty quick. Yeah, yeah, we'll get them.
Speaker 3: What is funny, though, is like, you did play for
the Saints.
Speaker 5: I did, finished the career. Saints was the last helmet
I ever put on me too.
Speaker 2: I was in camp with them, Yeah, I was in
camp with them, and I said, hey, Hey, guys, i'mmost
stay at the house.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm good.
Speaker 3: They were going there.
Speaker 2: So i'd been to mini camp with them, and They're
about to go to Greenbrier and I'm sitting there and
I got three young kids, and I had moved my
family all over, and I had that feeling of my guy,
you're done. And when you have that feeling, you have
to pay respect to football. If you're not all in,
you don't need to do it. It is a sport in
which if you have step you'll get exposed real quick.
Speaker 3: And they were great though.
Speaker 2: I called them. I was like, hey, here's the deal.
They're like, we totally get it, we totally understand. Wish
you all the best, and they brought in another fullback
and it was what it was.
Speaker 3: But yeah, we both finished with the Saints helmet on.
That's pretty wild, right, Yeah, it is kind of crazy.
You were three, right, Cajun Cannon's.
Speaker 5: Number number three?
Speaker 3: Really, didn't you?
Speaker 5: I was three? Yeah?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's Cajun Cannon's number.
Speaker 5: All right?
Speaker 3: Yeah?
Speaker 5: I thought you were saying, really like I wore three?
I or what number I wore? Uh forty one?
Speaker 2: Okay, a Landra, guess what number I wore with the
Saints eighteen.
Speaker 3: I wish I could. I couldn't. At that time. It
was only twenty through forty.
Speaker 8: Oh, okay, twenty through forty twenty.
Speaker 3: Through forty nine, twenty two okay, heye, twenty six, oh
number forty four.
Speaker 7: Okay, that's a fullback number full back number back.
Speaker 3: I was forty four as I was going to be.
Speaker 5: I've heard the Saints camps used to not be much
fun either, back in the day. I heard it from
a couple of different fullbacks. Actually that what that Saints
camp was not much fun? Like back in the oh
even mini camp wasn't fun.
Speaker 2: It's like, hey, guys, we don't have pads on here,
like we're good. Like if we're good, if we're setting
the tempo, that's fine.
Speaker 3: But is this the tempo? Yeah, okay, it is. Let's go.
Speaker 5: It's in college.
Speaker 3: Twenty thirty ISO, over and over and over again.
Speaker 5: But inside run.
Speaker 2: But if you had a good block on ISO, Sean
Payton would give you a full back belly the next play.
Speaker 5: Really yeah, alright, yeah, respect, yeah, all.
Speaker 3: Right, we're gonna step away. So here's what we're gonna do.
Speaker 5: Last two segments, Well, I gotta tease real quick.
Speaker 6: He did a tease like last hour and we never
got people. We forgot about it. I answered in the.
Speaker 2: Break all right, you'll have that, and also we'll have
mailbag slash ask the bench just kind of the same thing.
Speaker 3: We'll have that to end today's show.
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Speaker 2: She wants you to I was gonna see like, I
was so mind no, So the pussy Cadals are just
a blind spot for you.
Speaker 8: I guess this isn't okay?
Speaker 5: Who is this?
Speaker 6: This is Danity Kane.
Speaker 5: This is not a real name.
Speaker 6: Diddy's band Danity.
Speaker 8: Yeah, you know, uh Audrey O'Day or wait is that
her name Aubrey or Audrey one.
Speaker 3: Of those I know you're talking about.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she was in this band Danity, Danity.
Speaker 8: That is not a real person, the band, that's the
name of the band.
Speaker 7: But what movie references this song is trash?
Speaker 5: What did you put this in a red trash Rangers dumpster?
Speaker 4: Wow?
Speaker 3: This song is not it's not trash. Show stop movie.
Speaker 7: There's a movie you see but they reference to Danny
can I can't think of it right now?
Speaker 3: I was gonna go to home.
Speaker 6: Specific thing.
Speaker 7: Well, I mean he's seen it, I promise.
Speaker 8: Well, but how do you like it's so specific like
the movie that they say, Danny, I want to be
able to run.
Speaker 5: Nobody's casually playing this song.
Speaker 6: They used to be a song back in the day.
They used to be lyrical.
Speaker 5: When what song?
Speaker 3: What song gets you on the dance floor, sir?
Speaker 2: Like, if you hear it and you've had some cold
pops at a wedding, you're like Lacy, meet you floor now.
Speaker 5: I mean they say wedding. You just got to go
with the just a classic little shout.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, how white, let's go Jesus, Mary and Joseph.
Speaker 5: You play shout at a wedding?
Speaker 3: No, I dare you? No shout get a little bit lower.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and seventeen grandparents are going to be out
there with your canes and walkers. Oh have you got
tennis balls on that walker?
Speaker 8: Sir?
Speaker 3: Shout that's crazy, that's what. Yeah, that is the widest
show has ever been. And that's what Taylor on it.
Speaker 6: That's crazy.
Speaker 5: You're telling me you're at a wedding reception.
Speaker 3: I'm yeah.
Speaker 5: You hear about responsibly about nine to ten pops deep
shout because it doesn't play to the end. We're not
playing shout early on halfway. Yeah, it's playing and you
and you're gonna go find a stand up round table
in the corner and you're just gonna that's when you're.
Speaker 3: Gonna eat your order.
Speaker 5: I didn't say you're not gonna get out there and
get a little bit lower now.
Speaker 8: Hispanic weddings are way different than like, we don't play show.
Speaker 2: The shout like might start the night. It's not the closer,
it's not.
Speaker 5: It's not starting any it's at the it's maybe it's
not these it's the relief, Okay, it's it's when you
actually want to get on the dance floor, because you
know you get there. No one starts out on the
dance floor. You gotta get a couple of people trickling.
Speaker 7: In and then they do.
Speaker 5: And maybe maybe after the announcements and all the all
the scheduled dances, maybe.
Speaker 3: That was that was one thing.
Speaker 2: And our wives as well, all four of us like
like to get out there. Katie had a birthday party
one time at the house and it was like us
four basically for a while until everybody's like Cole pop
deep enough to join us also at the gallop that
we just hosted for You High.
Speaker 3: It's kind of like the same situation.
Speaker 2: I was like, all right, us four are gonna be
out here and shout out to all the U High
parents because those people were ready.
Speaker 3: Let's they were ready to throw down and have a
good time and get on the dance floor.
Speaker 5: Lets it go.
Speaker 6: Well, I'm trying to think.
Speaker 5: I mean, there's a lot. I mean you told me
on the spot, I gotta there's a lot. It's not crazy,
it's crazy. We the more we talk about this, the
less crazy it sounded to everybody in here. Okay, it's
just the first one that came to my head. And
it's a banger.
Speaker 8: It was like when Grant was like smoothed by Santana.
Speaker 5: Do not put.
Speaker 3: Smooth by Santana's kind of a banger.
Speaker 8: It's that kind of a banker. It's definitively a banger.
Speaker 3: Give me, give me a little bit smooth by Rob Thomas.
Speaker 6: I got you perfect summer song.
Speaker 3: I think so too.
Speaker 6: All right, what did you tease earlier?
Speaker 3: Though we never got to bothers you.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna start out by saying this, I got my
thumbs bleeding a little bit, pull your fingernails, so I
got a little blood because my finger's hurt a little bit. So,
which is kind of like my bridge transition to what
is my big pet peeve in baseball?
Speaker 3: Right now?
Speaker 5: I'm a I'm a radio guy. Now, okay, I can
whine about my finger bleeding. Yeah, what are we doing?
Speaker 2: You know you could put on that if you were
trying to prevent your fingers.
Speaker 5: Maybe I should come and do radio with sliding of
emits on? Like, what are we doing? Why does everybody
putting these stupid mits on?
Speaker 2: Never protect your hand from my head first, from breaking
your hand.
Speaker 5: Don't be a baby.
Speaker 7: It does make it extends a hand a little bit
longer than it normally is.
Speaker 3: You can.
Speaker 5: I cannot stand them. It's a weak look.
Speaker 6: Never needed.
Speaker 5: It's a beta look.
Speaker 7: It is bad.
Speaker 5: It's a beta beta look.
Speaker 3: I don't like the double the double of emit is,
but I do.
Speaker 2: Understand putting it on your throwing hand to to protect
the throwing hand.
Speaker 5: I don't know. That doesn't make any sense to me,
but I get it. Okay, Well, let's let's let's not
hurt our fingers. Blah blah, blah, just slide like people
have been slaw for over one hundred years. Normal, don't
break your finger doing it?
Speaker 7: Ricky Henderson never.
Speaker 2: Like or if you break your finger, put some dirt
on it.
Speaker 6: What are doing he broke his hand?
Speaker 2: Yeah, still d HD like it's just like you're allowed
to even like complain about a broken finger when I.
Speaker 5: Was Node, it's a finger, but your ass in the game.
Speaker 2: It's a little silver thing at Walgreens, they said, and
put a little tape on there.
Speaker 8: But you don't just deal with the raspberry on your
hand that you get from sight.
Speaker 5: Like just so, Taylor, your explanation was the only thing
it does. It does so well, that's that's performance enhancing
at that point.
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Speaker 5: Slight and other nets Exactly On that note, we'll take
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Speaker 5: Wow, what movie does this song remind Jeff.
Speaker 8: Real Nice, There's no movie that it reminds me this.
Speaker 7: This reminds me of Blades of Gloria.
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Speaker 7: Can I go TV show as well, Sarah's and Freddy.
Speaker 2: No, it's Jonathan Yes, movie, Yes, movie, Quarterback TV.
Speaker 7: Show, Sarahs and movies movie.
Speaker 6: And then.
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Speaker 7: Yeah, I like a Shane Falca.
Speaker 5: I like the lefty being a lefty Shane Falco.
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