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<v Speaker 1>H oh g is, folks, it's showtime.

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<v Speaker 2>People say, good money to see this movie.

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<v Speaker 3>When they go out to a theater.

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<v Speaker 1>They want cold sodas, hot popcorn, and no monsters in

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<v Speaker 1>the protection booth.

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<v Speaker 2>Everyone pretend podcasting isn't boring.

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<v Speaker 3>Cut it off?

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<v Speaker 4>Hello, Wait, wait, why is a penguin in our.

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<v Speaker 5>It needs our help? Look at this oil on you.

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<v Speaker 5>I'll move, I will get you clean. It's a penguin.

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<v Speaker 1>His name should be dinging.

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<v Speaker 3>H.

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<v Speaker 1>They always find their way back, same nest, same mates.

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<v Speaker 4>Are you okay? Should do the best for the penguin.

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<v Speaker 1>He's so friendly.

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<v Speaker 3>He went right in.

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<v Speaker 1>Do they normally do that?

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<v Speaker 3>I like?

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<v Speaker 4>You have me attack? Please him?

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<v Speaker 3>Made? I look at that?

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<v Speaker 4>Are you hungry?

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<v Speaker 3>Of course?

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<v Speaker 5>So I think the whole world would be interested in

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<v Speaker 5>the story of human You.

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<v Speaker 6>Have to see this for a million views.

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<v Speaker 1>He's famous.

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<v Speaker 3>That's incredible.

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<v Speaker 1>It's one of ours.

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<v Speaker 5>The last couple of years, he showed up in June.

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<v Speaker 5>He comes and goes as he pleases.

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<v Speaker 7>He's always so happy to see Sean.

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<v Speaker 2>Only a little penguin travels five thousand miles every year

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<v Speaker 2>to visit his friend. You know, the penguin.

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<v Speaker 5>We have decided to take him here at the university,

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<v Speaker 5>he studies human interaction.

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<v Speaker 2>Where is Dindon?

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<v Speaker 3>I have to find him? Uventine Dihim have by re friendship.

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<v Speaker 3>He's he her bet, not my bet. He's my friend.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, folks, welcome to a special episode of the Projection Booth.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm your host Mike White. On this episode, I'm talking

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<v Speaker 2>with director David Sherman and star genre Renaud All about

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<v Speaker 2>the new film My Penguin Friend. It opens nationwide on

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<v Speaker 2>August sixteenth, twenty twenty four. It is a delightful little

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<v Speaker 2>film that will make you cry at the end, at

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<v Speaker 2>least I did, and if you don't, you're heartless. Thanks

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<v Speaker 2>so much for listening, and I hope you enjoyed the interview.

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<v Speaker 7>Mister Sherman, how did this story come to your attention?

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<v Speaker 7>How did you find out about this and how did

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<v Speaker 7>the actual project come to you?

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<v Speaker 1>I've had heard about the story being from Brazil, the

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<v Speaker 1>story when national everybody knew about Jean and Deen Deen,

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<v Speaker 1>And when I was doing a promotion work for a

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<v Speaker 1>previous film that was represent Brazil the Academy Awards in

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<v Speaker 1>Los Angeles, the studio heard about my movie and the said, well,

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<v Speaker 1>here's a Brazilian that has a connection to the ocean

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<v Speaker 1>because of my background that I've been sailing around and

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<v Speaker 1>doing documentaries for many years of my life. They called

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<v Speaker 1>me up and said, we don't take a meeting, we

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<v Speaker 1>have this story. And I said, the story of Roll

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<v Speaker 1>and Dandy. That's amazing. So we sat down and they

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<v Speaker 1>pitched the story and I thought, this is right down

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<v Speaker 1>my alley. This is a beautiful, true story. It's a

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<v Speaker 1>hard touching story. I love telling humans, real human story

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<v Speaker 1>and it was absolutely beautiful and in my backyard in Brazil,

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<v Speaker 1>which I know so well, in the ocean and all

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<v Speaker 1>these fishermen's that I've met throughout my upbringing, and so

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<v Speaker 1>that's how I came into the project and with this

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<v Speaker 1>amazing invitation. And then it took us five years to

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<v Speaker 1>get the project off the ground, as it always does

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<v Speaker 1>because of COVID and everything. So it was a joy.

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<v Speaker 1>It was amazing that it got offered to me and

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<v Speaker 1>I felt right at home. Although working with penguins something

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<v Speaker 1>new that was some dreamful.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, I was curious how many real penguins you actually use.

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<v Speaker 7>Were it's that the same penguin actor? Where there any

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<v Speaker 7>CG penguins.

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<v Speaker 1>We used ten penguins to do the role of one,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think in our movies we probably have about

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<v Speaker 1>eighty percent real penguins. We did have CGI penguins to

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<v Speaker 1>do the dangerous scenes and the scenes that we could

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<v Speaker 1>not obviously shoot, and then we had animatronic penguins as

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<v Speaker 1>well robotic penguins to do you know, reverse shots, because

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<v Speaker 1>we had a limited time per day to work with

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<v Speaker 1>the penguins, so we use all the techniques available. But

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<v Speaker 1>I think we probably have about eighty percent of real

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<v Speaker 1>penguins in the movie.

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<v Speaker 7>Mister Renault, I've been a fan of ever since I

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<v Speaker 7>saw you in the Last Combat way back when. And

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<v Speaker 7>I'm trying to think of because you tended to play

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<v Speaker 7>more fantastical characters, killers, gangsters, those kind of things. How

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<v Speaker 7>often have you played a real person, like a pre

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<v Speaker 7>existing person, and how was that for you?

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<v Speaker 6>I think I've done more than one hundred movies, so

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<v Speaker 6>I don't remember this, but what attracked me to that

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<v Speaker 6>far say? It is a rassiaep with the animals and

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<v Speaker 6>the planet and the environment the see and if I

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<v Speaker 6>could say, please pay attention because we're living in a

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<v Speaker 6>small amount of time in this planet, and we have

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<v Speaker 6>to give the planet to the next generation. Please protect

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<v Speaker 6>instead of destroy. Look at animals, Look at the sea.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, the footage of especially the ocean, that is it's

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<v Speaker 7>almost a character onto itself. How much again that was

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<v Speaker 7>real places? And how was that scouting for those locations

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<v Speaker 7>we could hear just breathtake.

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<v Speaker 1>We looked at different places. It's quite funny because we

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<v Speaker 1>looked at Spain. We looked in different places because obviously

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<v Speaker 1>we need the penguins and we could not transport penguins

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<v Speaker 1>to different places around the world, which which is quite difficult.

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<v Speaker 1>And I always wanted to shoot near the local true location.

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<v Speaker 1>And amazingly enough, there is an institute in an aquarium

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<v Speaker 1>that looks after rescued animals that have come to shore

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<v Speaker 1>and that cannot be sent back to the ocean, and Ubatuba,

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<v Speaker 1>which is the place there. They have that institute there

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<v Speaker 1>and they had penguins there. So I said, this is

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<v Speaker 1>the original, very close to the original location, and we

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<v Speaker 1>have penguins. And we talked to the producers and then

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<v Speaker 1>we went looking for the right beach. And I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>this little corner of the world that seemed like it

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<v Speaker 1>stopped in time, and we we scarved the whole coast

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<v Speaker 1>and we got sometimes very hard to get places, with

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of bumps in the roads to get to.

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<v Speaker 1>But we finally found this perumitting beach and it's absolute magical.

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<v Speaker 1>We did very little to the location. We built the

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<v Speaker 1>house that there was a structure there before, and we

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<v Speaker 1>built a little house for Joanne's house, but the rest

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<v Speaker 1>is exactly how it is. You know that place, So

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<v Speaker 1>it's very magical. And that was the thing about looking

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<v Speaker 1>for the right places and the village. We went to

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<v Speaker 1>another town which is a narrow way that it's today

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<v Speaker 1>a town that's preserved for its historical value, and we

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<v Speaker 1>were able to find that. And then obviously going to Patagonia,

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<v Speaker 1>which is totally on location with wild penguins, where we

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<v Speaker 1>had to be very careful because there were millions of

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<v Speaker 1>penguins everywhere to be able to shoot. And I wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to be as authentic as possible, so as truth as

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<v Speaker 1>possible to the story, especially in the locations.

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<v Speaker 7>Like I always say, don't work with children or animals,

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<v Speaker 7>and there you are working with hundreds thousands of animals.

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<v Speaker 7>That must have been quite a challenge.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, children, animals and ocean. That's the ones they say no.

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<v Speaker 1>But I'll tell you what It was definitely challenging, but

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<v Speaker 1>it was also a joy because we all went into

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<v Speaker 1>this project understanding that all the challenges that we had,

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<v Speaker 1>so I think the production the actors were very forgiving

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<v Speaker 1>and very welcoming working with the kids and working with

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<v Speaker 1>the penguins and understanding that it was a different dynamic

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<v Speaker 1>on the set. We definitely had to play in a

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<v Speaker 1>different way on the set, and the whole crew came

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<v Speaker 1>together to make the movie because.

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<v Speaker 3>They knew it.

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<v Speaker 1>They knew everybody knew, oh no, we're putting the three

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<v Speaker 1>no nos together, and it actually, Yes, it was a challenge,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was very joyful. At the same time, the

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<v Speaker 1>energy was there because everybody knew how important the story was.

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<v Speaker 7>The gentleman that this is based off of. Was he around?

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<v Speaker 7>Did you get to talk with him? Was he actually

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<v Speaker 7>on set?

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<v Speaker 1>I did talk to him before we shot. We spent

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<v Speaker 1>some time with him with the real Joan and understood

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<v Speaker 1>with his story. And then he did not make it

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<v Speaker 1>to the set, but we were preserving also the story

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<v Speaker 1>that we're creating. I think this is something that we

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<v Speaker 1>respected a lot not to replicate what the real story was,

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<v Speaker 1>but to create our own story with the source from

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<v Speaker 1>the real story. I think that's what's a balance to

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<v Speaker 1>do with biographical pictures, and I think it was the

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<v Speaker 1>right balance that what we did.

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<v Speaker 7>Mister Renaute, How do you get into a character? How

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<v Speaker 7>do you find that character and play this type of role?

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<v Speaker 7>And how was it playing against the penguin?

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<v Speaker 3>But it was young.

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<v Speaker 6>I thought that the characters they're far from me. When

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<v Speaker 6>you're young, you go to drama school and you read

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<v Speaker 6>and you think that you have to find something far

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<v Speaker 6>from you to be authentic. And with the age, with life,

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<v Speaker 6>with divorce, marriage, having kids' friends, having experienced you believe,

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<v Speaker 6>you know that the characters are not far from you.

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<v Speaker 6>The killer, of course, is far from you, because he

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<v Speaker 6>has to kill people and alone kill people. But human beings,

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<v Speaker 6>they're not far and in coming. We have first the drama,

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<v Speaker 6>because you judge people more through the drama than through love. Laughing,

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<v Speaker 6>it's five seconds and then we forget the drama and

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<v Speaker 6>I ife in your heart and you remember that. So

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<v Speaker 6>when you read again and you let the story give

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<v Speaker 6>you the scent something coming between the lines, because you dream,

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<v Speaker 6>you see the story in your mind. You read again

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<v Speaker 6>and surely, but it is sure that you will get

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<v Speaker 6>the essence of the character.

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<v Speaker 1>Because you're honest.

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<v Speaker 6>You don't want to just pay the character. Otherwise you're

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<v Speaker 6>not working. If you fake, you're not working. But if

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<v Speaker 6>you're working, you'll see that the character will come to you.

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<v Speaker 6>And then you chair the time on the set with

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<v Speaker 6>the director and the camera mandling, I go, I go

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<v Speaker 6>this way.

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<v Speaker 7>Mister and mister Sherman. Thank you so much for your time.

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<v Speaker 7>This is great talking with you.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you.

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