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You always 46 00:04:05.680 --> 00:04:08.639 get that notification to make sure that you like and 47 00:04:08.759 --> 00:04:14.599 subscribe to the Right Side Radio program. Today. All right, guys, 48 00:04:14.680 --> 00:04:18.360 As you know, we had an election here in my 49 00:04:18.519 --> 00:04:22.439 neck of the woods, Jones County, Mississippi, in Senate District 50 00:04:22.759 --> 00:04:26.199 forty two. It is the Senate district that was formerly 51 00:04:26.639 --> 00:04:30.000 held by our good friend and one of the original 52 00:04:30.079 --> 00:04:33.759 founders of the Right Side Radio show, Chris McDaniel. There 53 00:04:33.839 --> 00:04:39.439 was some gamesmanship played by Lieutenant Governor Delbert Hoseman in 54 00:04:39.600 --> 00:04:43.439 this redistricting which forced this special election in the first place. 55 00:04:44.000 --> 00:04:46.759 But what he did is he carved out a section 56 00:04:47.160 --> 00:04:51.120 of Jones County, and by doing that, he drew Chris 57 00:04:51.240 --> 00:04:54.600 McDaniel out of his own district. He drew me out 58 00:04:54.639 --> 00:04:58.839 of the district, and several other people such as myself, 59 00:04:59.000 --> 00:05:03.079 who weren't able to vote yesterday, weren't able to participate. 60 00:05:03.879 --> 00:05:09.439 The incumbent Senator Robin Robinson voted yes on these new 61 00:05:09.600 --> 00:05:13.920 district lines, and as such, she faced a challenger in 62 00:05:14.120 --> 00:05:18.240 Don Hardiness, and I'm happy to say that Don was 63 00:05:18.399 --> 00:05:24.279 able to win this race yesterday in a dominating fashion 64 00:05:24.839 --> 00:05:28.480 over seventy percent of the vote. I think it's still unofficial, 65 00:05:28.600 --> 00:05:32.680 but over seventy percent of the vote went to Don, 66 00:05:32.879 --> 00:05:37.160 and Don is gracious enough. I know he's super tired 67 00:05:37.319 --> 00:05:41.680 after watching election results, knocking on doors and then all 68 00:05:41.800 --> 00:05:44.920 day today he's been out picking up his campaign signs, 69 00:05:45.920 --> 00:05:48.720 but he's still been gracious enough to join me here 70 00:05:49.240 --> 00:05:53.360 on the Right Side Radio show. Don. Welcome to the 71 00:05:53.439 --> 00:05:54.199 program again. 72 00:05:55.000 --> 00:05:57.079 Thank you, Jack, thanks for having me on. 73 00:05:57.600 --> 00:05:59.839 Well, Don, I want to do because I think this 74 00:06:00.120 --> 00:06:02.319 is the first time you've been on the Right Side 75 00:06:02.560 --> 00:06:07.279 since you guest hosted once after my father passed, And 76 00:06:07.839 --> 00:06:11.439 as I've done with Jim and Jerrel and Chris, I've 77 00:06:11.480 --> 00:06:13.600 taken the time to thank each and every single one 78 00:06:13.639 --> 00:06:16.879 of all for filling in for me during that period 79 00:06:17.000 --> 00:06:21.839 when talking into a microphone just was not something I 80 00:06:22.000 --> 00:06:24.680 was ready to do yet. So again, let me let 81 00:06:24.759 --> 00:06:27.560 me start off by thanking you for doing that for 82 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:28.680 me during that time. 83 00:06:30.439 --> 00:06:31.240 You're welcome Jack. 84 00:06:32.279 --> 00:06:36.279 Well, Don, you know, let's talk about this race, because again, 85 00:06:36.360 --> 00:06:38.600 when you got in this race, I think you knew 86 00:06:38.639 --> 00:06:41.360 it as well as most people. You were viewed as 87 00:06:41.399 --> 00:06:45.720 a long shot. This was probably a circled safe race 88 00:06:46.439 --> 00:06:50.959 for Senator Robinson. And again, what made you decide to 89 00:06:51.040 --> 00:06:54.319 get in when it looked like the odds were probably 90 00:06:54.360 --> 00:06:55.519 going to be stacked against you. 91 00:06:57.959 --> 00:07:02.720 Well, you know, you know, you get so many distractions 92 00:07:02.800 --> 00:07:07.680 in the race, and what ended up happening, Uh, you 93 00:07:07.759 --> 00:07:08.879 know you had you know, when you. 94 00:07:08.920 --> 00:07:09.920 Have the distractions. 95 00:07:10.000 --> 00:07:12.800 My I tell my wife is pretty much she and 96 00:07:12.879 --> 00:07:16.120 I it's just keep keep knocking on doors. The rest 97 00:07:16.160 --> 00:07:20.199 of it will fix itself in time. And we had 98 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:24.360 the basically the wind was behind our backs during the 99 00:07:24.639 --> 00:07:28.000 uh we felt like had the first go round was 100 00:07:28.279 --> 00:07:31.199 it seemed like we had walls that just kept coming up. 101 00:07:31.959 --> 00:07:37.639 This time with with Dal and his article in the 102 00:07:37.759 --> 00:07:38.800 Laurel Leader call. 103 00:07:39.120 --> 00:07:43.279 And that's Judge Dal Williamson here in Jones County for 104 00:07:43.560 --> 00:07:46.120 for listeners that aren't sure who you're talking about. 105 00:07:46.680 --> 00:07:50.360 Right, and when he wrote that article and name names 106 00:07:50.439 --> 00:07:55.199 and how this redition hurt the judicial system in Jones County. 107 00:07:55.920 --> 00:07:57.439 Uh, people started paying attention. 108 00:07:57.759 --> 00:08:01.720 And when that happened, of course in the districts and 109 00:08:01.920 --> 00:08:04.399 people started looking, hey, this you know may and this 110 00:08:04.879 --> 00:08:05.879 precinct anymore. 111 00:08:05.920 --> 00:08:07.759 I mean, they really started taking a hard look. 112 00:08:08.720 --> 00:08:14.399 And during the election yesterday, what we found out is 113 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:17.360 that during that time is that people were going down 114 00:08:17.439 --> 00:08:20.279 to the polls to vote and found out that they 115 00:08:20.319 --> 00:08:21.319 were in a different district. 116 00:08:22.319 --> 00:08:23.079 I did hear that. 117 00:08:23.399 --> 00:08:26.319 I think it was in the Powers precinct. Folks were 118 00:08:26.920 --> 00:08:31.519 very upset and calling their friends to make sure that 119 00:08:31.639 --> 00:08:35.320 since they couldn't vote, that somebody in forty two could 120 00:08:35.360 --> 00:08:38.039 come to the precinct and vote for them. I mean, 121 00:08:38.080 --> 00:08:41.879 they were called people left and right. So it really 122 00:08:42.559 --> 00:08:46.200 energized this campaign. I think that's why you see the 123 00:08:46.320 --> 00:08:49.919 numbers where they are is because people were really fired 124 00:08:50.039 --> 00:08:53.000 up and upset about the redistrict and they found out 125 00:08:53.080 --> 00:08:57.320 kind of late. So until they showed up, did they 126 00:08:57.440 --> 00:08:58.279 know what was going on? 127 00:08:59.320 --> 00:09:03.960 You know, Judge Williamson's article was about a month two 128 00:09:04.080 --> 00:09:07.840 months before the election, so there was plenty of time 129 00:09:07.919 --> 00:09:11.039 for people to see it, forget about it and have 130 00:09:11.240 --> 00:09:16.279 that cool off. And then about two weeks maybe three 131 00:09:16.360 --> 00:09:20.240 weeks before Chris McDaniels started commenting on the fact that 132 00:09:20.360 --> 00:09:23.000 he was drawn out of the race. Do you think 133 00:09:23.080 --> 00:09:26.200 that when Chris started to get involved and started to 134 00:09:26.279 --> 00:09:29.279 post stuff on social media, talk about it on Chris 135 00:09:29.399 --> 00:09:34.320 McDaniels America, do you think that kind of helped really 136 00:09:34.519 --> 00:09:36.080 tip the skills in your favor. 137 00:09:36.799 --> 00:09:40.039 Well, that's that's a no brainer. It doesn't take you know, 138 00:09:40.759 --> 00:09:44.320 a master businessist to figure out. When Chris entered this 139 00:09:44.759 --> 00:09:49.240 and put the information on Facebook, it really fired people up. 140 00:09:50.519 --> 00:09:53.320 I mean he basically, you know, told the truth of 141 00:09:53.399 --> 00:09:56.519 what was going on actually in the race. Of course, 142 00:09:56.559 --> 00:10:00.279 your lates won't, our establishment won't won't say that, hey, 143 00:10:00.360 --> 00:10:02.600 that Chris wasn't a target, but he was, and we 144 00:10:02.679 --> 00:10:04.919 all know it by the drawing. It doesn't, like I said, 145 00:10:04.960 --> 00:10:07.120 it doesn't take once you look at the draw and 146 00:10:07.200 --> 00:10:11.480 you can see that they went around his home. But 147 00:10:11.639 --> 00:10:15.840 in their infinite wisdom, you know, for what man uses 148 00:10:15.919 --> 00:10:18.200 for evil, God makes for good. And I'm telling you, 149 00:10:19.240 --> 00:10:22.200 my wife looked at me several times during the election said, 150 00:10:22.639 --> 00:10:26.639 this one feels different. This election feels she said, I 151 00:10:26.720 --> 00:10:30.159 could feel the hand of God on this everything that 152 00:10:30.559 --> 00:10:34.759 happens as it's like that we had to win behind 153 00:10:34.840 --> 00:10:39.840 us the whole time and the time and between mister 154 00:10:39.879 --> 00:10:45.200 Wimson and Chris McDaniel and uh, it just there was 155 00:10:46.320 --> 00:10:48.480 we felt like we were going to win this thing, 156 00:10:48.639 --> 00:10:51.039 but we had no idea how large. 157 00:10:51.440 --> 00:10:55.000 Yeah, now let's go back two years ago. You ran 158 00:10:55.080 --> 00:11:01.279 against n Or Robinson, then we're unsuccessful. If this race, 159 00:11:01.840 --> 00:11:06.559 if the redistricting hadn't happened, and this race was a 160 00:11:06.679 --> 00:11:10.399 regular four year term, would you have considered running again? 161 00:11:10.720 --> 00:11:13.039 Or do you think that in that situation where she 162 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:16.759 doesn't have these two bad votes hanging over her head, 163 00:11:16.799 --> 00:11:18.440 do you think that she would have been beatable? 164 00:11:19.519 --> 00:11:22.320 Well, hindsight, you know, it's always twenty twenty. 165 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:27.120 I've always wanted to run, and then at first I 166 00:11:27.200 --> 00:11:29.279 got a taste of it, you know, being short about 167 00:11:29.320 --> 00:11:34.279 fifteen hundred and fifty votes, I have, you know, been 168 00:11:34.320 --> 00:11:36.080 on the outside looking in for a lot of years. 169 00:11:36.120 --> 00:11:38.639 Started with the Tea Party movement and to DC twice 170 00:11:38.720 --> 00:11:42.600 Marsha Pennsylvania Avenue, got to see Chris and meet Chris 171 00:11:42.720 --> 00:11:45.919 and nine and when he ran against that, and I 172 00:11:46.039 --> 00:11:49.200 really got interested. And in fact, if it hadn't been 173 00:11:49.360 --> 00:11:52.080 believed it or not for Obama, I probably wouldn't have 174 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:55.960 been in as deep as I was. When he made 175 00:11:56.000 --> 00:12:01.240 the statement that our veterans, our military uh with with 176 00:12:02.559 --> 00:12:06.159 Sanata Mertha up in Pennsylvania, when they said our soldiers 177 00:12:06.200 --> 00:12:08.639 get up in the darkened night and kill innocent women 178 00:12:08.720 --> 00:12:11.559 and children, that set me off. And then of course 179 00:12:11.600 --> 00:12:14.039 the tea Party movement happened. Chris was a big part 180 00:12:14.080 --> 00:12:16.440 of that. I was a big part of it. So 181 00:12:17.080 --> 00:12:20.039 you know, I've been interjected with this for a long time, 182 00:12:20.159 --> 00:12:24.000 and Chris, if he hasn't done anything at all. 183 00:12:24.279 --> 00:12:27.960 It has fired up the conservatives around the state. 184 00:12:28.039 --> 00:12:30.840 And I'm lucky to have many of what I did 185 00:12:31.600 --> 00:12:34.159 because I've met a lot of good people across this state. 186 00:12:34.200 --> 00:12:36.000 In fact, some of them, a lot of them ran 187 00:12:36.039 --> 00:12:39.000 a few years ago and and a lot of us 188 00:12:39.080 --> 00:12:42.600 got you know, defeated at that time. But we just 189 00:12:42.759 --> 00:12:44.960 have to take the bull by the horns and just 190 00:12:45.159 --> 00:12:48.720 keep plugging along and get get in there and change 191 00:12:48.720 --> 00:12:50.559 the state absolutely. 192 00:12:50.679 --> 00:12:52.919 And we we we are happy to have people like 193 00:12:53.039 --> 00:12:56.039 you that are fighters, that are willing to stand and fight. 194 00:12:56.759 --> 00:12:56.919 Uh. 195 00:12:57.120 --> 00:12:59.759 And I'm going to get to some other questions on 196 00:12:59.840 --> 00:13:03.320 that here in a second, but let's let's keep going 197 00:13:03.480 --> 00:13:07.600 because again the Laurel Leader Call broke the story on redistricting. 198 00:13:07.960 --> 00:13:12.600 Josh Kuru Nichols wrote the story talking about how the 199 00:13:12.759 --> 00:13:18.600 lines were drawn. Uh, you knew about the crooked lines 200 00:13:18.799 --> 00:13:21.480 before the article broke. You knew about the crooked lines 201 00:13:21.960 --> 00:13:26.639 before you even announced you were running. Correct, Yes, you 202 00:13:26.720 --> 00:13:28.559 know I looked at the map. 203 00:13:29.320 --> 00:13:32.840 The maps that we had were legislative maps, and they 204 00:13:32.960 --> 00:13:36.080 weren't just exact, they were kind of generic. 205 00:13:37.039 --> 00:13:39.799 Uh you know, so you audition research. 206 00:13:39.919 --> 00:13:42.840 In fact, when I did my maps, when I started walking, 207 00:13:43.440 --> 00:13:45.799 I actually got one of the Google maps and started 208 00:13:45.840 --> 00:13:49.639 writing in streets because, uh, you know, when you run 209 00:13:49.879 --> 00:13:51.919 running race, you don't want to call on a you know, 210 00:13:52.000 --> 00:13:55.279 two or three hundred homes and not in the district itself. 211 00:13:55.360 --> 00:13:58.320 So you know, I spent a lot of midnight all 212 00:13:58.960 --> 00:14:01.679 doing that. So made sure I did a good job 213 00:14:01.759 --> 00:14:01.919 with that. 214 00:14:02.879 --> 00:14:07.639 Absolutely the factors in this race because again we talked 215 00:14:07.639 --> 00:14:09.639 about those two bad votes, but there are a couple 216 00:14:09.679 --> 00:14:13.799 of other votes in there, Like she voted for medicaid expansion, 217 00:14:14.000 --> 00:14:18.080 which is something that Msissippi Governor Tate Reeves has said 218 00:14:18.279 --> 00:14:21.399 played a major role in not just her race, but 219 00:14:21.600 --> 00:14:27.039 other races that went against folks who voted to expand medicaid. 220 00:14:27.840 --> 00:14:30.440 Uh So, again, there were there were other votes. I'm 221 00:14:30.480 --> 00:14:33.840 sure that you were watching that made you want to 222 00:14:33.919 --> 00:14:38.320 get involved in this race again. Uh So, again, when 223 00:14:38.360 --> 00:14:41.279 you look at this and you see how everything played out, 224 00:14:42.600 --> 00:14:45.080 it seems like you you knew that there was even 225 00:14:45.120 --> 00:14:47.919 if it was a long shot that this there might 226 00:14:48.039 --> 00:14:51.759 be a perfect storm setting up if you could just 227 00:14:51.960 --> 00:14:54.279 get the information out to the people. 228 00:14:55.200 --> 00:15:01.159 Right, Yeah, the the information that was a uh that 229 00:15:01.360 --> 00:15:06.879 was in in my pitch and another something else that 230 00:15:07.039 --> 00:15:07.879 happened during the race. 231 00:15:07.960 --> 00:15:10.360 Of course when r J. Her brother entered into it. 232 00:15:12.000 --> 00:15:14.919 I believe that helped my calls as well, because in 233 00:15:15.480 --> 00:15:17.399 going through the ballot with who is going to be 234 00:15:17.480 --> 00:15:20.759 on the ballot, when you mentioned those two names, you know, 235 00:15:20.840 --> 00:15:21.919 the eyebrow goes up. 236 00:15:22.000 --> 00:15:26.759 Well, is that her relative was her brother and. 237 00:15:27.200 --> 00:15:30.799 The belief system, I can't believe a brother would run 238 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:32.120 against a sitting sister. 239 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:33.399 Something is not right. 240 00:15:34.799 --> 00:15:38.000 So they started questioning whether or not she was up 241 00:15:38.039 --> 00:15:40.440 for the job based on if you can't hand you 242 00:15:40.720 --> 00:15:44.240 handle your family business in private, then why would you 243 00:15:44.399 --> 00:15:46.720 we send you to Jackson if you can't handle something 244 00:15:46.840 --> 00:15:47.399 that simple? 245 00:15:48.000 --> 00:15:51.919 Yeah? Uh, you know again, and this is I don't 246 00:15:52.000 --> 00:15:55.960 know if this is common in a smaller you know 247 00:15:56.480 --> 00:16:01.840 state sended election or or whatnot. But did Senator Robinson, 248 00:16:02.279 --> 00:16:06.480 has she called you or since you one to you know, 249 00:16:06.639 --> 00:16:08.559 concede or congratulate you. 250 00:16:10.159 --> 00:16:13.039 Well, you know, the first time we ran I sent 251 00:16:13.120 --> 00:16:14.559 her a little message. I don't know if it was 252 00:16:14.559 --> 00:16:18.799 a messenger. It was on her Facebook page and congratulated on. 253 00:16:19.039 --> 00:16:21.200 On her on her run. I didn't even have her 254 00:16:21.200 --> 00:16:22.919 phone number, so I didn't really know how to get 255 00:16:22.960 --> 00:16:23.360 a hold of her. 256 00:16:23.399 --> 00:16:25.399 And the social media you can do that. And she 257 00:16:25.480 --> 00:16:28.440 did the same for me on on this congratulating me. 258 00:16:28.600 --> 00:16:30.919 And and that's the vices with me where I'm not 259 00:16:31.440 --> 00:16:34.960 you know, not looking for you know, you know, a 260 00:16:35.080 --> 00:16:38.639 phone call and saying that you know, hey, the best 261 00:16:38.679 --> 00:16:40.759 person won, all that kind of stuff. I think that 262 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:43.000 that's enough of what we did. 263 00:16:44.360 --> 00:16:48.559 Absolutely, you talked about how this race felt different than 264 00:16:48.679 --> 00:16:51.519 two years ago. And and I know for a fact 265 00:16:51.559 --> 00:16:53.919 that you knocked on as many doors as you can. 266 00:16:54.440 --> 00:16:57.360 You might have knocked on every door in your district, 267 00:16:57.559 --> 00:17:01.360 knowing how hard you were out there working. Uh, tell 268 00:17:01.399 --> 00:17:03.279 me a little bit about what you were hearing, is 269 00:17:03.360 --> 00:17:06.160 you were going door to door that that led you 270 00:17:06.240 --> 00:17:09.119 and your wife Jerry Lynn to feel like this was 271 00:17:09.480 --> 00:17:10.880 this was a different race. 272 00:17:12.119 --> 00:17:16.279 Well, you know, when you're going through your your card 273 00:17:16.400 --> 00:17:18.759 and talking a little bit about yourself and you get 274 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:21.960 in some conversations and you know, you talked about the 275 00:17:22.119 --> 00:17:24.920 you know, the redistrict and when it started becoming a 276 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:27.039 hot button, and I'd have people to ask me, well 277 00:17:27.079 --> 00:17:29.640 am I in the district or not? And you show 278 00:17:29.680 --> 00:17:31.240 them the map and where they were at and that 279 00:17:31.359 --> 00:17:35.319 type thing. And uh, of course the voting record was big, 280 00:17:35.440 --> 00:17:38.240 you know, the medicaid expansion. In fact, UH went to 281 00:17:38.440 --> 00:17:41.000 you know a lot of rural places in Jones County. 282 00:17:41.039 --> 00:17:43.599 You go to Union, you go to you know, Rainy, 283 00:17:43.680 --> 00:17:44.119 you go to. 284 00:17:44.839 --> 00:17:47.359 Mosale and so you know a lot of chicken farms there. 285 00:17:47.440 --> 00:17:50.599 And in fact, if I'm not mistaken, the property tax 286 00:17:50.759 --> 00:17:54.519 on the chicken farm buildings themselves, Uh, she had approved 287 00:17:54.559 --> 00:17:56.079 too or voted in some building. 288 00:17:56.119 --> 00:17:57.799 I don't have the build number in front of me. 289 00:17:57.880 --> 00:18:01.400 But the gentleman that I would sit with at lunch 290 00:18:01.559 --> 00:18:06.079 or talk about their their increase and property taxes on 291 00:18:06.200 --> 00:18:09.119 the buildings on the chicken farm. So you know their 292 00:18:09.200 --> 00:18:12.359 margins are small enough because they're dealing with you know, 293 00:18:12.480 --> 00:18:15.680 the Sanderson Zee Tysons or who you know, whomever they're 294 00:18:15.799 --> 00:18:18.839 they're growing for. Is that your margins get tight. So 295 00:18:18.920 --> 00:18:20.920 if your taxes go up, you and I know that 296 00:18:21.640 --> 00:18:23.759 generally that farmer is paying for it. 297 00:18:24.440 --> 00:18:28.319 Uh. And somehow he's got to recoup that increase in 298 00:18:28.519 --> 00:18:30.079 taxes on his farm. 299 00:18:31.880 --> 00:18:35.960 Absolutely. Uh, let me ask this so you know, because again, 300 00:18:36.119 --> 00:18:38.440 there are a lot of us, such as myself, who 301 00:18:38.759 --> 00:18:41.880 have been drawn into a district that is going to 302 00:18:41.920 --> 00:18:45.240 be a Democrat controlled district. The lines are drawn as 303 00:18:45.319 --> 00:18:49.599 such to where it's going to be a true challenge 304 00:18:49.759 --> 00:18:54.720 to to get a Republican, a conservative elected. How important 305 00:18:54.839 --> 00:18:57.839 is it for you to represent us, even though we're 306 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:02.599 not technically in your district anymore? How important is it 307 00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:04.480 for you to be our voice as well? 308 00:19:05.599 --> 00:19:05.720 Well? 309 00:19:05.839 --> 00:19:06.599 Jack, you know the. 310 00:19:07.160 --> 00:19:08.200 Weird thing about this. 311 00:19:08.839 --> 00:19:13.119 I moved here in twenty nineteen, and you know, so 312 00:19:13.240 --> 00:19:15.839 basically an outside I was in Ranking County for twenty 313 00:19:15.920 --> 00:19:19.240 plus years and was involved in, you know, several groups 314 00:19:19.319 --> 00:19:22.119 up there, and I moved down here because of in 315 00:19:22.279 --> 00:19:25.279 laws and we were taking care of their property, and 316 00:19:25.880 --> 00:19:27.960 so I got down here. I mean, you do what 317 00:19:28.079 --> 00:19:29.920 you need to do for family. I mean, that's that's 318 00:19:29.960 --> 00:19:32.680 the way we're all built. And so I moved down here. 319 00:19:32.960 --> 00:19:35.880 Didn't have any plans on you know, politics. I was 320 00:19:36.079 --> 00:19:38.799 part of a couple of groups and kept informed. But 321 00:19:39.599 --> 00:19:42.640 when this opportunity came up, and uh, you know, put 322 00:19:42.680 --> 00:19:45.000 my name out there and and ran. 323 00:19:44.960 --> 00:19:45.039 And. 324 00:19:46.720 --> 00:19:51.880 It's it's it's a it's an experience that basically we 325 00:19:51.960 --> 00:19:54.720 took a year of our life between the last election 326 00:19:54.839 --> 00:19:56.640 and this mark. I looking at the amount of months 327 00:19:56.759 --> 00:19:59.920 we spent knocking on doors, it was almost a year. 328 00:20:00.119 --> 00:20:02.480 I mean, we've spent a year of our lives knocking 329 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:03.079 on doors. 330 00:20:04.000 --> 00:20:04.880 But we learned a lot. 331 00:20:05.000 --> 00:20:07.759 We learned a lot about people when you talk on 332 00:20:07.880 --> 00:20:12.319 the porches, the front steps, the yards, mowing grass wherever 333 00:20:12.359 --> 00:20:16.200 it is, and you had a conversation, you wanting to 334 00:20:16.400 --> 00:20:18.839 knock and go on. But I tell you, you get 335 00:20:18.960 --> 00:20:22.440 so much information when people are you know, or leisure 336 00:20:22.480 --> 00:20:26.160 at their home and open up to what makes them. 337 00:20:26.039 --> 00:20:28.640 Tick and what they need to do. You know what 338 00:20:28.880 --> 00:20:30.000 legislators need to do. 339 00:20:30.240 --> 00:20:32.880 You know, we have two ears and one mouth. You know, 340 00:20:32.960 --> 00:20:36.279 we're supposed to listen more than we talk. And then 341 00:20:36.319 --> 00:20:39.519 the other thing is I always have this believe as 342 00:20:39.559 --> 00:20:42.920 somebody who has served in this country, is that you know, 343 00:20:43.680 --> 00:20:49.319 in the end, you basically you just you're the employe 344 00:20:49.559 --> 00:20:54.400 er or the employee and your constituents or the employers. 345 00:20:54.880 --> 00:20:57.960 You serve your constituents, you serve your family, you serve 346 00:20:58.079 --> 00:21:01.079 your wife. So you should be a servant in any 347 00:21:01.200 --> 00:21:04.000 capacity in your life. And when you're a true servant, 348 00:21:04.720 --> 00:21:07.880 then your needs get bet as well. So it helps 349 00:21:07.920 --> 00:21:10.599 everybody when you have that attitude done. 350 00:21:10.640 --> 00:21:13.119 When you get up there, and you probably already know this, 351 00:21:13.359 --> 00:21:15.759 you're going to be greeted by leadership. They're going to 352 00:21:15.839 --> 00:21:19.000 come to you their hands out and asking you to 353 00:21:19.039 --> 00:21:23.279 play ball with them and ask you to maybe betray 354 00:21:23.440 --> 00:21:26.839 campaign promises along the way. What are you going to 355 00:21:26.920 --> 00:21:30.119 do when those members of leadership come up to you 356 00:21:30.240 --> 00:21:33.599 and start asking you to betray these campaign promises you've made. 357 00:21:34.319 --> 00:21:40.599 Well, I've already reached out to conservative legislators there in 358 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:44.160 the House, in the Senate, We've talked about things. 359 00:21:45.599 --> 00:21:46.480 I am not one. 360 00:21:46.799 --> 00:21:49.119 I'm not a yes man, never have been, never will be. 361 00:21:51.279 --> 00:21:54.839 I don't want to put myself in a situation. I 362 00:21:54.920 --> 00:21:58.000 want to make sure I'm guarded and protected. I had 363 00:21:58.039 --> 00:22:01.240 two pieces of advice given me by lobbyist and labeled, 364 00:22:01.960 --> 00:22:03.960 and he told me two things to remember when I 365 00:22:04.039 --> 00:22:04.799 went to Jackson. 366 00:22:05.240 --> 00:22:05.640 He said. 367 00:22:06.200 --> 00:22:10.079 The first thing is you buy your own lunch. He said, 368 00:22:10.119 --> 00:22:13.640 Then you're not beholding anybody on anything that they're you know, 369 00:22:13.799 --> 00:22:16.200 trying to sell you. Why you're going to lunch, he said. 370 00:22:16.279 --> 00:22:20.720 Number two, he said after after session parties and that 371 00:22:20.880 --> 00:22:21.359 type of thing. 372 00:22:21.400 --> 00:22:23.720 He said, don't go. And he said the reason you 373 00:22:23.799 --> 00:22:26.200 don't go, he said, I have seen many a legislator 374 00:22:26.279 --> 00:22:29.640 go to Jackson and go to these little deals, and 375 00:22:29.920 --> 00:22:33.079 you know, there's money offered in campaigns or a promise 376 00:22:33.119 --> 00:22:35.559 if you get a bill done, somebody in your family 377 00:22:35.680 --> 00:22:39.240 gets a job. I mean, you know, it's a you know, 378 00:22:39.319 --> 00:22:40.240 it's a dinner thieves. 379 00:22:40.519 --> 00:22:43.640 So you really have to be careful and guarded and 380 00:22:43.799 --> 00:22:45.599 get with the right people while you're up there, so 381 00:22:45.720 --> 00:22:49.480 you avoid the traps and the pitfalls that the establishment 382 00:22:49.559 --> 00:22:51.880 sets for you. Because telling when you wear the word 383 00:22:52.119 --> 00:22:57.400 C conservative on your shirt, you're basically your Captain America 384 00:22:57.400 --> 00:22:59.519 and everybody's coming after you. All the bad guys are 385 00:22:59.559 --> 00:23:00.799 going to try to do what they need to do 386 00:23:00.920 --> 00:23:03.480 to take you down. So you have to be guarded. 387 00:23:03.559 --> 00:23:05.160 When you're a conservative Repokan in. 388 00:23:05.279 --> 00:23:08.519 Jackson, it's got to be frustrating because again, there was 389 00:23:08.559 --> 00:23:11.240 a time where we thought that having that or by 390 00:23:11.319 --> 00:23:14.319 your name was enough. But we've learned without a doubt 391 00:23:15.039 --> 00:23:17.359 that there are a lot of Republicans, especially there in 392 00:23:17.519 --> 00:23:23.559 Jackson that just don't believe in the party platform, and 393 00:23:23.720 --> 00:23:27.880 we haven't seen party leadership ever hold them accountable for 394 00:23:28.559 --> 00:23:33.400 them betraying the platform. So again, I think that's solid 395 00:23:33.480 --> 00:23:37.079 advice that you need to know the people that you're 396 00:23:37.200 --> 00:23:40.960 you're running around with and never turn your back on 397 00:23:41.519 --> 00:23:43.880 the people that put you in office in the first place. 398 00:23:45.000 --> 00:23:47.519 Well, there was a there was a mandate. When you 399 00:23:47.680 --> 00:23:55.319 see seventy plus percent support in any race, that's a mandate. 400 00:23:57.160 --> 00:23:59.839 You know, we're not talking about you know, fifty one, 401 00:24:00.000 --> 00:24:04.079