WEBVTT 1 00:00:04.160 --> 00:00:06.759 Resc crews are now in the fourth day of searching 2 00:00:06.799 --> 00:00:09.480 for a ninety two year old hiker missing an Allegheny 3 00:00:09.519 --> 00:00:12.480 State park, as news force in the Wiena Shapiro reports, 4 00:00:12.720 --> 00:00:15.119 rescuers hope a new description of where he was last 5 00:00:15.160 --> 00:00:16.719 seen will help their cause. 6 00:00:17.559 --> 00:00:20.399 Hamilton got lost in the park on Wednesday while hiking 7 00:00:20.399 --> 00:00:23.199 with his sixty six year old daughter, Rebecca Huffman. When 8 00:00:23.239 --> 00:00:26.120 Hamilton was too weak to continue, his daughter walked to 9 00:00:26.199 --> 00:00:29.879 safety the next morning and called for help. On Sunday, 10 00:00:29.960 --> 00:00:32.520 she came back to the park and handed police this 11 00:00:32.600 --> 00:00:36.520 picture she drew of a mysterious concrete structure. Liise Hamilton 12 00:00:36.640 --> 00:00:39.600 was last seen about one hundred feet from this structure. 13 00:00:39.840 --> 00:00:43.000 But here's the problem. Right now, officials can't find it. 14 00:00:43.799 --> 00:00:48.719 Hello, friends, and welcome to another episode. This time we 15 00:00:48.840 --> 00:00:51.280 invite you to join us as we discuss some of 16 00:00:51.320 --> 00:00:55.039 the absolute strangest missing person cases. 17 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:56.000 That we've ever encountered. 18 00:00:56.679 --> 00:01:01.039 These stories are beyond strange and mysterious, have any rational 19 00:01:01.119 --> 00:01:05.200 or scientific explanation, yet, according to those that experienced them, 20 00:01:05.640 --> 00:01:09.760 they actually happened. So sit back, relax, and let us 21 00:01:09.760 --> 00:01:12.280 know what you think in the comments below. You have 22 00:01:12.400 --> 00:01:16.159 theories on any of these. If so, please share, We'd 23 00:01:16.159 --> 00:01:21.439 love to hear them. Missing ninety two year old and 24 00:01:21.519 --> 00:01:28.200 the mysterious structure nobody can identify. On November tenth, twenty ten, 25 00:01:28.560 --> 00:01:31.599 sixty six year old retired notice Rebecca Huffman and her 26 00:01:31.680 --> 00:01:35.359 ninety two year old father, Reverend Thomas Hamilton, got lost 27 00:01:35.400 --> 00:01:38.840 while hiking in the Allegheny State Park. They walked for 28 00:01:39.000 --> 00:01:41.879 miles through dark woods, climbed up hills on their hands 29 00:01:41.920 --> 00:01:45.439 and knees, and were freezing cold. The very next day, 30 00:01:45.680 --> 00:01:49.359 Rebecca walked to safety and called for help. She stated 31 00:01:49.359 --> 00:01:51.959 that her father was too weak to continue, so she 32 00:01:52.079 --> 00:01:55.840 told him to stay put and not move. Search and 33 00:01:55.879 --> 00:01:58.359 rescue was immediately deployed to the area, and there was 34 00:01:58.400 --> 00:02:02.480 no sign of her father Thomas. The next day, Rebecca 35 00:02:02.560 --> 00:02:05.280 came back to the park and handed police a picture 36 00:02:05.359 --> 00:02:08.719 She drove up a mysterious concrete structure about six feet 37 00:02:08.719 --> 00:02:11.840 in width and about fifteen to twenty feet wide. It 38 00:02:11.879 --> 00:02:13.919 was a three foot high structure that you can walk 39 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:17.800 into and be standing on a rock like floor. Thomas 40 00:02:17.879 --> 00:02:20.400 was last seen about one hundred feet from the structure, 41 00:02:21.560 --> 00:02:25.520 but there was a huge problem. Officials were never able 42 00:02:25.560 --> 00:02:28.879 to find this mysterious structure that his daughter Rebecca described. 43 00:02:30.080 --> 00:02:33.479 A massive eight day search conducted by one hundreds of volunteers, 44 00:02:33.800 --> 00:02:37.840 police officers, firefighters, and K nine units over five thousand 45 00:02:37.840 --> 00:02:42.560 acres of the park turned up nothing. Strangely enough, two 46 00:02:42.599 --> 00:02:45.800 years later, his remains were found five hundred feet from 47 00:02:45.800 --> 00:02:48.800 where the search and rescue crews started their official search. 48 00:02:50.280 --> 00:02:57.479 The mysterious structure has never been located. Linda Artega and 49 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:02.400 the people Hiding in the Bushes. On September twenty second, 50 00:03:02.479 --> 00:03:06.400 twenty twelve, Linda Artega and her brother Eddie Huff set 51 00:03:06.439 --> 00:03:10.520 out for a day's hiking in the Arkansas Ozarks. During 52 00:03:10.520 --> 00:03:14.919 which they were hiking was an area that they both frequented. However, 53 00:03:15.120 --> 00:03:18.879 during their hike, Eddie suddenly found himself in an unfamiliar area. 54 00:03:20.080 --> 00:03:22.319 Eddie looked up through the trees, hoping to find some 55 00:03:22.400 --> 00:03:25.240 degree of positioning from the mountains around him, and when 56 00:03:25.280 --> 00:03:30.520 he looked beside him, Linda had simply vanished. When Eddie 57 00:03:30.560 --> 00:03:33.400 eventually returned home, he seemingly had no memory of what 58 00:03:33.439 --> 00:03:37.159 had happened in the park. A search party was sent 59 00:03:37.199 --> 00:03:40.280 into the forest to find Linda, but with winter temperatures 60 00:03:40.280 --> 00:03:42.599 beginning to set in, and having left with barely any 61 00:03:42.639 --> 00:03:46.960 supplies at all, hope was fading fast. Linda would re 62 00:03:47.000 --> 00:03:50.759 emerge from the forest almost a week later. She appeared 63 00:03:50.800 --> 00:03:54.159 shocked and unnerved by whatever incident had unfolded and led 64 00:03:54.159 --> 00:03:58.039 her here. She would later claim, although the details were 65 00:03:58.120 --> 00:04:01.439 murky at best, that she came out across people, but 66 00:04:01.520 --> 00:04:03.599 when she asked her help, that act like they didn't 67 00:04:03.639 --> 00:04:06.879 hear her. Linda says she remember them looking right at 68 00:04:06.879 --> 00:04:10.719 her and not saying a thing. These people were hiding 69 00:04:10.719 --> 00:04:13.800 in the bushes. She says they were following me, but 70 00:04:13.879 --> 00:04:18.199 would not help me. In addition, Linda stated that dark 71 00:04:18.240 --> 00:04:21.480 figures appeared in the forest at dusk. They were like 72 00:04:21.519 --> 00:04:24.800 silhouettes that moved through the trees, but no matter how 73 00:04:24.879 --> 00:04:28.319 much she screamed, they couldn't hear her. She said they 74 00:04:28.399 --> 00:04:31.720 constantly watched her, but never acknowledged or cause for help. 75 00:04:32.839 --> 00:04:35.160 Linda said that she was just glad that the forest 76 00:04:35.240 --> 00:04:41.319 had finally released her. Casey Hathaway and the Bear. 77 00:04:42.800 --> 00:04:43.680 Three year old. 78 00:04:43.560 --> 00:04:48.399 Casey Hathaway disappeared from his great grandmother's backyard on January 79 00:04:48.439 --> 00:04:52.319 twenty fifth, twenty nineteen. Casey was playing with two other 80 00:04:52.399 --> 00:04:55.560 relatives in his great grandmother's backyard the day he went missing. 81 00:04:56.199 --> 00:04:58.480 When he didn't come inside when the others did, his 82 00:04:58.480 --> 00:05:00.000 family started searching for him. 83 00:05:00.199 --> 00:05:00.360 Hm. 84 00:05:00.959 --> 00:05:04.519 After forty five minutes past, his grandmother called nine one one. 85 00:05:04.959 --> 00:05:08.839 He was all, man, we lost my two year old 86 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:10.360 grandson that's walked in the woods. 87 00:05:10.360 --> 00:05:10.720 Back then. 88 00:05:10.800 --> 00:05:16.639 We can't find him. Three year old gansl he there 89 00:05:16.759 --> 00:05:23.800 window her Paul sister. He's a every year old. Yeah, 90 00:05:23.839 --> 00:05:28.199 he's three. Okay. The girls come to the house and 91 00:05:28.319 --> 00:05:31.360 left him there, and he's walked off somewhere and we 92 00:05:31.399 --> 00:05:33.639 can't find him. And he was turning on you're not 93 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:38.000 there's the house now, I had the house here, okay, 94 00:05:38.120 --> 00:05:40.920 And how long do you he brought in there? It's 95 00:05:41.000 --> 00:05:43.839 been at least forty five minutes because we've been looking 96 00:05:43.839 --> 00:05:46.920 at all in the woods board and then find your 97 00:05:48.639 --> 00:05:53.360 directly behind your hound. Yeah, well on the side, yeah. 98 00:05:53.959 --> 00:05:58.759 And then a white flight he was, you know, and 99 00:05:58.800 --> 00:06:00.839 he was wearing wow. 100 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:06.639 Probably a black little coat. A black coat. Yeah, okay, 101 00:06:07.399 --> 00:06:08.399 I think you can do this. 102 00:06:10.240 --> 00:06:10.800 You do this. 103 00:06:12.759 --> 00:06:15.199 Where we go he is, yeah, he is there? 104 00:06:16.879 --> 00:06:22.680 Yeah, thanks god, Okay, he said about forty five minutes ago. Yeah, okay, 105 00:06:22.759 --> 00:06:24.439 all right, is it. 106 00:06:24.399 --> 00:06:27.720 A big area of wood behind your house. Yeah, it's 107 00:06:27.720 --> 00:06:31.000 pretty big. I think he've been out there looking for him. Yeah, 108 00:06:31.839 --> 00:06:34.319 what is it? Yeah? 109 00:06:34.399 --> 00:06:36.639 Okay, all right, we got it there, but he had 110 00:06:36.680 --> 00:06:39.279 to see you, okay, he said, forty five minutes directly 111 00:06:39.360 --> 00:06:43.480 behind your house or a side. Yeah, okay, you see 112 00:06:43.480 --> 00:06:46.600 it once that we have some deft said it that way, okay, okay, 113 00:06:47.199 --> 00:06:47.439 thank you. 114 00:06:49.800 --> 00:06:51.759 He was walking in the woods back there, and we 115 00:06:51.800 --> 00:06:54.160 can't find him, his great grandmother told the nine won 116 00:06:54.240 --> 00:06:54.920 one dispatcher. 117 00:06:55.800 --> 00:06:57.079 The other ones came through. 118 00:06:56.879 --> 00:06:59.319 The house but left him there, and he walked off 119 00:06:59.360 --> 00:07:02.600 somewhere and we can can't find him. Search and rescue 120 00:07:02.600 --> 00:07:05.399 teams from across the state immediately came together to brave 121 00:07:05.439 --> 00:07:08.639 the treacher's terrain and low temperatures, hoping to find the Casey. 122 00:07:10.160 --> 00:07:13.720 Three days later, rescuers were still combing the woods when 123 00:07:13.759 --> 00:07:16.319 they heard the missing three old boy call out for 124 00:07:16.399 --> 00:07:21.199 his mother. In the emergency room, Casey started talking about 125 00:07:21.199 --> 00:07:24.160 what happened in the woods. He said he had a 126 00:07:24.160 --> 00:07:27.079 friend that was a bear. The bear took care of 127 00:07:27.160 --> 00:07:28.959 him and kept him warm while he was lost in 128 00:07:29.000 --> 00:07:32.399 the woods. Casey goes on to say that the bear 129 00:07:32.560 --> 00:07:37.240 also fed in berries. Now, the local sheriff stated that 130 00:07:37.240 --> 00:07:40.279 there are bears in the woods of Craven County, North Carolina, 131 00:07:40.839 --> 00:07:43.360 but there's no evidence to prove one was with Casey. 132 00:07:44.639 --> 00:07:47.319 He goes on to say, all that matters is that 133 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:50.160 something was there to comfort Casey during the three days 134 00:07:50.279 --> 00:07:56.959 he was missing. Stephen Kubacki missing for over a year. 135 00:07:58.680 --> 00:08:01.920 One February morning and eighteen seventy eight, near Lake Michigan, 136 00:08:02.839 --> 00:08:05.839 Stephen Kobaki would venture out to indulge in several hours 137 00:08:05.839 --> 00:08:10.199 of skiing. However, when he still hadn't returned the following day, 138 00:08:10.639 --> 00:08:15.000 a huge search was put in motion. Strangely and ominously, 139 00:08:15.399 --> 00:08:18.399 footprints were discovered in a location where the student claimed 140 00:08:18.399 --> 00:08:22.000 to be heading, and ONTs more, they stopped right at 141 00:08:22.040 --> 00:08:25.360 the frozen water's edge. There was no sign of any 142 00:08:25.399 --> 00:08:28.279 markings on the frozen surface of the water and no 143 00:08:28.439 --> 00:08:32.120 signs that the ice had been broken anywhere. Later that day, 144 00:08:32.320 --> 00:08:36.639 stephen skis and backpack were discovered. However, no other sign 145 00:08:36.720 --> 00:08:39.559 of Stephen came to light, and the searches were eventually 146 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:44.200 called off. His family, while not giving up hope, were 147 00:08:44.240 --> 00:08:49.240 prepared for the words. Then over a year later, in 148 00:08:49.360 --> 00:08:53.159 early May nineteen seventy nine, Stephen would appear out of 149 00:08:53.159 --> 00:08:56.919 the blue on his parents' doorstep. He had very little 150 00:08:57.000 --> 00:08:59.840 memory of where he had been. He had awoken early 151 00:09:00.120 --> 00:09:02.879 that day in a field in Pittsfield, hundreds of miles 152 00:09:02.919 --> 00:09:05.679 from where he disappeared and around forty miles from the 153 00:09:05.720 --> 00:09:10.879 family home. Even stranger, he was wearing clothes that weren't 154 00:09:10.919 --> 00:09:13.159 his and had a strange bag of maps with. 155 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:14.519 Him that he didn't recognize. 156 00:09:16.440 --> 00:09:19.559 Rather than compensate himself financially with the mini offers from 157 00:09:19.600 --> 00:09:23.519 media people for his story, he instead retreated from the public, 158 00:09:23.919 --> 00:09:26.759 refusing to speak of the incident, of which he claimed 159 00:09:26.759 --> 00:09:30.279 he had no memory, and not wishing to undergo such 160 00:09:30.320 --> 00:09:34.360 things as hypnotic regression as he wasn't experiencing any psychological 161 00:09:34.399 --> 00:09:36.120 problems and wished. 162 00:09:35.879 --> 00:09:39.039 To keep it that way. 163 00:09:39.279 --> 00:09:46.279 Ambrose Smith gone for twenty four hours. Ambrose Smith normally 164 00:09:46.320 --> 00:09:49.919 played happily at home in Nowago County, Michigan, but on 165 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:53.559 October the eighth, twenty thirteen, Ambrose was sitting in the 166 00:09:53.600 --> 00:09:56.399 lounge with her father when he briefly left the room, 167 00:09:56.480 --> 00:09:59.120 and upon his return, she was nowhere to be found. 168 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:04.080 A massive search involving hundreds of volunteers was immediately activated, 169 00:10:04.360 --> 00:10:08.240 covering the entire surrounding area. It wasn't until the next 170 00:10:08.320 --> 00:10:12.679 day that Ambrose was found a few miles from her home. Strangely, 171 00:10:12.919 --> 00:10:15.720 she was discovered in a location that had been extensively 172 00:10:15.759 --> 00:10:19.559 searched the previous day. How the little girl had managed 173 00:10:19.559 --> 00:10:22.279 to traverse such a huge distance and invade the search 174 00:10:22.360 --> 00:10:25.519 teams who sprang into action so soon after her disappearance 175 00:10:25.759 --> 00:10:32.840 remains a complete mystery. Zen Wrong vanished while piloting an aircraft. 176 00:10:34.600 --> 00:10:38.600 On March fifteenth, twenty sixteen. Zen Wrong flew out of 177 00:10:38.679 --> 00:10:41.399 Van Arbor in a nineteen eighty four Cessna one seventy 178 00:10:41.440 --> 00:10:45.840 two p owned by the Michigan Flyers. When it was 179 00:10:45.879 --> 00:10:49.039 overdue to return, authorities were notified and the wreckage was 180 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:53.600 found in a forested area near Manituaj, Ontario, northeast of 181 00:10:53.679 --> 00:10:58.200 Munissing over Lake Superior. The down testat that he had 182 00:10:58.240 --> 00:11:01.240 been flying was found in a densely world in Ontario. 183 00:11:01.320 --> 00:11:01.919 The same day. 184 00:11:01.960 --> 00:11:04.360 He rented the aircraft from a flying group at the 185 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:08.360 ann Arbor Airport, but Zen was not at the scene 186 00:11:08.360 --> 00:11:10.639 of the crash and there were no footprints in the 187 00:11:10.679 --> 00:11:13.000 snow to indicate that Zen was in the aircraft at 188 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:17.320 the time it crashed landed. All the evidence indicates the 189 00:11:17.320 --> 00:11:20.200 aircraft was operating normally and crashed because it ran out 190 00:11:20.240 --> 00:11:24.080 of fuel. Authorities have theorized that at some point prior 191 00:11:24.120 --> 00:11:27.440 to the crash, Zen must have eggsted the aircraft while 192 00:11:27.480 --> 00:11:27.759 it was. 193 00:11:27.720 --> 00:11:28.279 In the air. 194 00:11:30.000 --> 00:11:32.679 Searches around the crash site and along the route that 195 00:11:32.759 --> 00:11:35.519 the aircraft was known to have traveled were searched, and 196 00:11:35.600 --> 00:11:39.480 yet nothing was found. Another search was conducted in the 197 00:11:39.480 --> 00:11:42.960 Potoski area where zen cell phone last pained, but again 198 00:11:43.519 --> 00:11:47.600 nothing was found. Zen Wrong was an experienced pilot who 199 00:11:47.639 --> 00:11:50.519 was also a PhD candidate at the University of Michigan. 200 00:11:51.679 --> 00:11:52.240 As of this. 201 00:11:52.279 --> 00:11:56.399 Recording in June twenty twenty, his squarebouts were still unknown 202 00:11:56.679 --> 00:11:59.559 and his case remains a mystery. 203 00:12:00.000 --> 00:12:00.720 Hello friends. 204 00:12:02.240 --> 00:12:06.159 In this video, we're going to discuss the strange disappearances 205 00:12:06.240 --> 00:12:09.320 of some of the people you'd most likely unexpect to 206 00:12:09.360 --> 00:12:14.000 go missing. Park rangers. Now, we're using parks as a 207 00:12:14.039 --> 00:12:16.039 broad term in the scope of this video because it 208 00:12:16.080 --> 00:12:20.480 could include lands protected culturally or historically, including national parks, 209 00:12:20.480 --> 00:12:24.919 state parks, and other designated wildlife. Wilderness and recreational areas. 210 00:12:25.879 --> 00:12:29.759 Different countries use different names for this position. Warden is 211 00:12:29.759 --> 00:12:32.679 the favorite term in Canada, Ireland, and the United Kingdom. 212 00:12:33.279 --> 00:12:36.320 Within the United States, the National Park Service refers to 213 00:12:36.399 --> 00:12:40.039 the position as a park ranger. The US Forest Service 214 00:12:40.360 --> 00:12:43.799 refers to the position as a forest ranger. Other countries 215 00:12:43.879 --> 00:12:46.080 use the term park warden or even game warden to 216 00:12:46.120 --> 00:12:51.200 describe this occupation. Now, the profession includes a number of 217 00:12:51.240 --> 00:12:55.279 disciplines and specializations, and park rangers are often required to 218 00:12:55.320 --> 00:12:59.799 be proficient in more than one of the following law enforcement, 219 00:13:00.600 --> 00:13:08.799 emergency response, firefighting, dispatch, scientists and scholar, maintenance and administration. 220 00:13:10.519 --> 00:13:14.639 These individuals, particularly those in administration, are often heavily cross 221 00:13:14.679 --> 00:13:17.240 trained in several of the aforementioned areas in order to 222 00:13:17.279 --> 00:13:19.720 allow for a knowledge of all other areas and duties 223 00:13:19.799 --> 00:13:24.519 under their authority. As a result, when people become lost 224 00:13:24.600 --> 00:13:27.159 or go missing in a park, the park rangers are 225 00:13:27.240 --> 00:13:29.519 usually the first ones on the scene to document the 226 00:13:29.559 --> 00:13:32.159 case and to start search and rescue efforts into motion. 227 00:13:33.720 --> 00:13:37.559 More than anyone, park rangers are very familiar with the 228 00:13:37.600 --> 00:13:40.720 missing person phenomenon which happens in parks around the world, 229 00:13:41.320 --> 00:13:43.799 and were actually among the first to write about it, 230 00:13:45.159 --> 00:13:48.720 But what happens when one of these rangers themselves go missing? 231 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:52.320 I invite you to join me now as we explore 232 00:13:52.440 --> 00:13:56.799 five strange cases of missing park rangers. With that set, 233 00:13:57.399 --> 00:13:58.000 let's begin. 234 00:14:00.960 --> 00:14:05.759 Number one ranger, Ralph W. Heath. Ralph W. 235 00:14:05.879 --> 00:14:08.799 Heath was a park ranger at Baxter State Park in Maine, 236 00:14:08.919 --> 00:14:12.759 United States, who allegedly died of exposure while attempting to 237 00:14:12.799 --> 00:14:15.919 rescue a woman who was lost on Mount Cataden in 238 00:14:16.000 --> 00:14:20.679 nineteen sixty three. On Monday, October twenty eighth of that year, 239 00:14:21.200 --> 00:14:26.480 two women, Helen Mower and Margaret Ibsik, both from Concord, Massachusetts, 240 00:14:26.720 --> 00:14:30.120 took the Cathedral Trail and climbed Baxter Peak on the mountain. 241 00:14:31.200 --> 00:14:33.080 They reached the summit and stopped to have lunch at 242 00:14:33.080 --> 00:14:36.799 around one thirty in the afternoon. When the two friends 243 00:14:36.840 --> 00:14:39.039 decided to start their hike again and head back down, 244 00:14:39.519 --> 00:14:42.399 they had a small argument over the route Margaret wanted 245 00:14:42.399 --> 00:14:45.240 to take. Helen simply wanted to go back the way 246 00:14:45.279 --> 00:14:48.679 they came, but Margaret wanted to bushwhack, which very simply 247 00:14:48.679 --> 00:14:51.440 put means to leave the established trail or get off 248 00:14:51.480 --> 00:14:54.919 the beaten path as it were. Helen knew how risky 249 00:14:54.960 --> 00:14:58.440 this was. Although Margaret had more hiking experience than she did, 250 00:14:58.600 --> 00:15:02.279 not by much and only three years total. She thought 251 00:15:02.279 --> 00:15:05.120 it way too dangerous and stormed off to take Dudley Trail, 252 00:15:05.240 --> 00:15:07.039 which was the original trail they had taken to get 253 00:15:07.080 --> 00:15:09.080 there in the first place, and let her friend make 254 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:10.279 her own mistakes. 255 00:15:09.879 --> 00:15:10.879 And go her own way. 256 00:15:11.600 --> 00:15:16.440 It was a decision she would later regret very much. Margaret, 257 00:15:16.480 --> 00:15:18.720 on the other hand, thought she was taking a shortcut 258 00:15:18.720 --> 00:15:20.960 and laughed off her friend's warnings, and they went their 259 00:15:20.960 --> 00:15:24.080 separate ways, agreeing to meet at the Chimney Pond lean to. 260 00:15:25.559 --> 00:15:28.080 When Helen reached the final destination and saw there was 261 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.039 no sign of Margaret, she decided to wait, but got 262 00:15:31.200 --> 00:15:34.879 very worried very quickly. Though it was a nice and 263 00:15:34.919 --> 00:15:38.039 sunny day out that day, but nor'easter was blowing in 264 00:15:38.200 --> 00:15:40.240 and the weather was about to very quickly take a 265 00:15:40.279 --> 00:15:44.159 turn for the worse. She started calling for Margaret at 266 00:15:44.159 --> 00:15:48.279 the headwheel near and towards the mountain itself. She was 267 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:51.039 pleasantly surprised when she heard her friend respond and started 268 00:15:51.039 --> 00:15:54.200 calling back, despite the fact she was asking for help. 269 00:15:55.399 --> 00:15:57.480 Margaret yelled that she was not hurt, but was stuck 270 00:15:57.480 --> 00:16:00.320 in the treacherous terrain and wouldn't possibly be able to 271 00:16:00.360 --> 00:16:02.919 continue or turn back, and pleaded with Helen to go 272 00:16:03.000 --> 00:16:06.320 and get some help. This is when Helen made her 273 00:16:06.320 --> 00:16:09.240 way to the ranger station and encountered Ranger Ralph Heath 274 00:16:09.320 --> 00:16:13.759 having dinner. She explained the situation, and Ralph immediately knew 275 00:16:13.759 --> 00:16:16.639 how dangerous that path was and how serious the problem 276 00:16:16.679 --> 00:16:20.399 they had. He was, however, thanking his lucky stars in 277 00:16:20.440 --> 00:16:23.360 his mind at least that there hadn't been any snowfall, 278 00:16:23.440 --> 00:16:26.440 at least not yet, as any other year, for as 279 00:16:26.440 --> 00:16:28.480 far back as he could remember, there would have been 280 00:16:28.519 --> 00:16:29.840 snow covering the mountain. 281 00:16:29.559 --> 00:16:31.200 For weeks at that point in the year. 282 00:16:32.759 --> 00:16:35.240 Ralph followed Helen back to Chimney Point and yelled out 283 00:16:35.240 --> 00:16:37.360 of the direction of Margaret and instructed her in a 284 00:16:37.440 --> 00:16:40.080 very calm and clear voice to stay where she was 285 00:16:40.240 --> 00:16:41.320 and not try to move. 286 00:16:41.200 --> 00:16:43.320 Or go anywhere. Help was on the way. 287 00:16:44.639 --> 00:16:47.720 With the wind increasing like it was, Ralph knew that 288 00:16:47.759 --> 00:16:50.320 the situation could go from scary to deadly in a 289 00:16:50.320 --> 00:16:51.399 matter of just seconds. 290 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:53.240 He had to act fast. 291 00:16:54.480 --> 00:16:56.879 He took Helen back to the ranger station and radioed 292 00:16:56.879 --> 00:17:00.399 his supervisor Helen Taylor, and told him there was a 293 00:17:00.480 --> 00:17:05.039 hiker stranded in the upper basin on the mountain. Now, 294 00:17:05.079 --> 00:17:07.559 a little background on mister Ralph Heath to show what 295 00:17:07.599 --> 00:17:09.799 a brave man he was, indeed, and now he was 296 00:17:09.839 --> 00:17:13.200 definitely not someone to shy away from trouble. He served 297 00:17:13.200 --> 00:17:16.880 in World War Two and was honorably discharged. However, a 298 00:17:16.920 --> 00:17:19.119 house fire destroyed everything he owned with the clothes on 299 00:17:19.200 --> 00:17:23.200 his back, including his discharge papers. He was redrafted to 300 00:17:23.240 --> 00:17:25.559 serve in the Korean War before anyone could verify he 301 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:27.960 had already been discharged and had finished his service to 302 00:17:28.000 --> 00:17:32.799 the country. Ralph, however, went without hesitation to serve, only 303 00:17:32.839 --> 00:17:34.640 for his wife to decide she didn't want to deal 304 00:17:34.680 --> 00:17:37.440 with another tour, especially one he shouldn't have had to 305 00:17:37.599 --> 00:17:42.559 have gone on, and filed for divorce. So this was 306 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:45.079 a man who was seeking solitude and peace in his 307 00:17:45.119 --> 00:17:47.880 life after all of this tragedy and heartbreak, and he 308 00:17:47.960 --> 00:17:50.799 absolutely loved his job as a ranger and the beauty 309 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:54.559 of the mountains. Despite the weather outside becoming more and 310 00:17:54.640 --> 00:17:57.400 more perilous and the orders from the supervising ranger that 311 00:17:57.480 --> 00:17:59.400 they had to wait until morning to attempt any kind 312 00:17:59.400 --> 00:17:59.960 of search and rest. 313 00:18:00.000 --> 00:18:00.240 Thank you. 314 00:18:01.319 --> 00:18:04.240 Ralph decided the risk to Margaret was too great leaving 315 00:18:04.240 --> 00:18:07.240 her out there all alone at night. Snow was definitely 316 00:18:07.240 --> 00:18:10.440 coming out, a lot of it. He decided to attempt 317 00:18:10.480 --> 00:18:14.960 to rescue himself, despite it being nightfall and dark outside. 318 00:18:15.200 --> 00:18:19.559 The temperature had drastically dropped as well. He borrowed Helen's 319 00:18:19.599 --> 00:18:22.119 backpack and filled it with essentials such as food, a 320 00:18:22.160 --> 00:18:26.079 sleeping bag, water, a parka, and extra clothes. He also 321 00:18:26.119 --> 00:18:28.799 took eighty feet of rope, and at eleven pm that 322 00:18:28.880 --> 00:18:33.799 same night, headed alone down Dudley Trail. It wasn't until 323 00:18:33.799 --> 00:18:36.119 five hours later, at four in the morning, that he 324 00:18:36.160 --> 00:18:39.000 reported back to Helen. He told her he had spoken 325 00:18:39.039 --> 00:18:41.119 to Margaret about an hour after heading out and was 326 00:18:41.160 --> 00:18:43.880 able to turn her location. When he again told her 327 00:18:43.880 --> 00:18:46.440 to stay put and assured her help was on the way, 328 00:18:48.200 --> 00:18:52.039 she reiterated she was uninjured, but very cold. She's probably 329 00:18:52.079 --> 00:18:54.920 more than a little scared as well, I'm sure. He 330 00:18:55.000 --> 00:18:57.599 told Helen that Margaret was near the waterfall and he 331 00:18:57.599 --> 00:18:59.400 wouldn't be able to reach her without more rope and 332 00:18:59.440 --> 00:19:02.759 more people. This was an area that even ice climbers 333 00:19:02.759 --> 00:19:07.519 considered treacherous and dangerous. Ralph was also extremely concerned because 334 00:19:07.559 --> 00:19:09.880 Margaret was refusing to stay and wait for help to arrive, 335 00:19:10.319 --> 00:19:12.920 and was determined to find a way out herself for 336 00:19:12.920 --> 00:19:14.960 fear she would freeze to death before anyone would be 337 00:19:15.000 --> 00:19:19.119 able to rescue her. After reassuring Helen and telling her 338 00:19:19.160 --> 00:19:23.039 what was going on, he contacted his supervisor, Peel and Taylor, 339 00:19:23.440 --> 00:19:27.400 and made him aware as well. Taylor dispatched the main 340 00:19:27.480 --> 00:19:31.000 Force Service, two additional park rangers, and a main game warden. 341 00:19:31.920 --> 00:19:35.119 By six in the morning Tuesday, the twenty ninth, an 342 00:19:35.319 --> 00:19:37.480 icy rain began to fall and the wind had picked 343 00:19:37.519 --> 00:19:41.519 up drastically. Ralph heath ate his breakfast and then informed 344 00:19:41.519 --> 00:19:44.440 Helen Mayer of his plans. He was going to send 345 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:47.359 the ravine from Chimney Pond climbed straight up the head 346 00:19:47.400 --> 00:19:50.400 wall and into the waterfall, where he would provide comfort 347 00:19:50.400 --> 00:19:53.279 to Barbara, and if he couldn't manage to rescue himself, 348 00:19:53.400 --> 00:19:55.839 at least she wouldn't be scared alone, and he would 349 00:19:55.880 --> 00:19:58.359 wait whi her until the additional resources arrived to get 350 00:19:58.359 --> 00:20:01.960 them both out. Now, he was clearly putting himself at 351 00:20:01.960 --> 00:20:04.559 great risk, knowing it was unlikely he would be able 352 00:20:04.599 --> 00:20:07.440 to do anything but just sit with Margaret and waite. Yep, 353 00:20:07.640 --> 00:20:11.799 he did it anyway. He was truly a hero. While 354 00:20:11.799 --> 00:20:14.759 the plan was very reasonable, and despite being a chainsmoker, 355 00:20:15.119 --> 00:20:19.279 Ralph was in great shape and a capable hiker and climber. However, 356 00:20:19.400 --> 00:20:21.759 he had hiked Dudley Trail four times in the last 357 00:20:21.759 --> 00:20:24.160 twenty four hours, and it was a very strenuous and 358 00:20:24.200 --> 00:20:27.440 hard trail to get through. He was absolutely exhausted at 359 00:20:27.440 --> 00:20:29.799 this point. It shouldn't have been doing any more hiking 360 00:20:29.920 --> 00:20:33.599 or climbing without getting so much needed rested. This would, 361 00:20:33.759 --> 00:20:36.119 after all, be a trail less climb he was planning 362 00:20:36.119 --> 00:20:40.079 to make. He wasn't going to leave Margaret, however, so 363 00:20:40.240 --> 00:20:43.599 the admonishments and warnings from his coworkers and even Helen 364 00:20:43.720 --> 00:20:49.000 fell on deaf ears. Ralph reached Barbara just as Hurricane Jenny. 365 00:20:48.799 --> 00:20:49.559 Reached the mountain. 366 00:20:50.440 --> 00:20:52.039 He sat with her for a little while and the 367 00:20:52.039 --> 00:20:55.640 two hunkered down. A ranger sergeant set out on foot 368 00:20:55.680 --> 00:20:58.359 towards Chimney Pond as well, and stated that by the 369 00:20:58.400 --> 00:21:01.279 time he got to just the basin, the conditions were 370 00:21:01.319 --> 00:21:05.880 white out with gale force winds. By noon, not even 371 00:21:05.920 --> 00:21:08.039 the jeeps could make it to the trailhead. There was 372 00:21:08.119 --> 00:21:12.880 eighteen inches of snow already and more falling fast. He 373 00:21:12.960 --> 00:21:15.839 even reported that only half way up the mountain his 374 00:21:15.960 --> 00:21:19.400 clothes had frozen solid and literally cracked at the elbows. 375 00:21:20.079 --> 00:21:23.799 Having no visibility in facing merciless winds, not to mention 376 00:21:23.880 --> 00:21:26.480 the condition of his clothing, forced him back down the mountain. 377 00:21:27.839 --> 00:21:29.839 He stated he knew that both Ralph and Margaret were 378 00:21:29.880 --> 00:21:32.160 in some very serious trouble. His help could no longer 379 00:21:32.200 --> 00:21:35.200 get to them, it would be impossible for them to 380 00:21:35.240 --> 00:21:40.559 help themselves as well. The following morning, Wednesday, October thirtieth, 381 00:21:40.680 --> 00:21:44.839 nineteen sixty three, Warden's supervisor, David Priest, returned to Roaring 382 00:21:44.880 --> 00:21:47.279 Brook and set up what we today call an incident 383 00:21:47.319 --> 00:21:50.319 command center, and had at least thirty five people there 384 00:21:50.319 --> 00:21:53.759 at working at all times. All different avenues of help 385 00:21:53.799 --> 00:21:56.559 were brought in and explored, but nobody could do anything 386 00:21:56.680 --> 00:21:59.279 as the snow was still accumulating and fast. On Friday 387 00:21:59.279 --> 00:22:04.279 morning flashed forward to November first, now been five full 388 00:22:04.319 --> 00:22:06.799 days since Margaret had gotten herself stuck, and four whole 389 00:22:06.839 --> 00:22:09.240 days since Ralph Heath had joined her to provide comfort 390 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:12.039 and possible rescue, which we know now he was unable 391 00:22:12.079 --> 00:22:16.440 to do. On Saturday, November second, all teams and persons 392 00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:19.599 involved decided that any rescue attempts were futile, that they 393 00:22:19.640 --> 00:22:24.039 were simply wasting resources. At that point, Mister William Lowell 394 00:22:24.039 --> 00:22:26.680 Putnam third was one of the most experienced mountaineers in 395 00:22:26.720 --> 00:22:28.640 the country at the time and had been helping with 396 00:22:28.720 --> 00:22:33.240 the rescue efforts since Friday. Finally, on Sunday, November third, 397 00:22:33.680 --> 00:22:36.119 he made the statement that he believed Ralph and Margaret 398 00:22:36.200 --> 00:22:39.680 had most likely died on Tuesday, and reiterated the waste 399 00:22:39.720 --> 00:22:42.640 of resources should they continue on this impossible trick to 400 00:22:42.680 --> 00:22:46.359 try and save them. It was until almost six months later, 401 00:22:46.640 --> 00:22:50.839 in April of nineteen sixty four, that Margaret Iversix's body 402 00:22:51.000 --> 00:22:52.839 was found and finally able to be brought down the 403 00:22:52.880 --> 00:22:56.440 mountain and sent home. Even at this time, though they 404 00:22:56.480 --> 00:22:58.880 needed chemical salts to melt the ice, was not to 405 00:22:58.960 --> 00:23:02.000 damage the corpse anyone way, and the rescue still took 406 00:23:02.000 --> 00:23:06.440 an additional three days. It was found during the autopsy 407 00:23:06.519 --> 00:23:09.400 that Margaret was severely injured and hadn't survived more than 408 00:23:09.440 --> 00:23:13.160 a few hours due to the extreme blood loss. Her 409 00:23:13.200 --> 00:23:17.200 official cause of death was exaguination. In other words, she 410 00:23:17.279 --> 00:23:21.759 bled out. Two weeks later, on May fifteenth, they finally 411 00:23:21.799 --> 00:23:26.119 found Ralph's body. He was found, oddly enough, four hundred 412 00:23:26.160 --> 00:23:30.200 feet above where Margaret was found. They airlifted him out 413 00:23:30.200 --> 00:23:33.599 of there, and his autopsy showed nothing at all. The 414 00:23:33.640 --> 00:23:36.519 coroner stated, it looks as if he simply sat down 415 00:23:36.640 --> 00:23:39.759 and went to sleep, which is not uncommon when people 416 00:23:39.759 --> 00:23:43.640 freeze to death. Now, Folks, though this was a bit 417 00:23:43.680 --> 00:23:46.039 of a long one, I think it's important we go 418 00:23:46.079 --> 00:23:49.400 over a few of the facts here. First, If Margaret 419 00:23:49.400 --> 00:23:51.920 had died very quickly after getting stuck where she was, 420 00:23:52.440 --> 00:23:55.960 how is she yelling to Ralph hours later? She had 421 00:23:56.000 --> 00:23:58.279 severed an artery in her leg and would have bled 422 00:23:58.319 --> 00:24:01.839 out within just minutes. Still, she was calling out and 423 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:05.720 answering him hours after she initially got stuck. How is 424 00:24:05.759 --> 00:24:10.279 this even possible? She called out to Helen as well, 425 00:24:10.400 --> 00:24:13.119 even before that, and we know neither one was under 426 00:24:13.119 --> 00:24:15.000 any kind of duress or sick at all, so they 427 00:24:15.000 --> 00:24:19.119 couldn't have been hallucinating. There were no other bodies found 428 00:24:19.119 --> 00:24:20.880 in the area that time, and no one else had 429 00:24:20.880 --> 00:24:23.319 come forward claiming to have been the person stuck up there, 430 00:24:23.319 --> 00:24:25.279 and answering or calling for help that could have been 431 00:24:25.279 --> 00:24:30.119 mistaken for Margaret. This is very strange, but becoming more 432 00:24:30.160 --> 00:24:33.799 and more common. Either search and rescue workers will hear 433 00:24:33.799 --> 00:24:36.000 the calls of people who are missing, only to never 434 00:24:36.000 --> 00:24:37.839 be able to find the location where the calls are 435 00:24:37.839 --> 00:24:41.480 coming from, or the person who is stuck or lost 436 00:24:41.519 --> 00:24:43.799 will hear search and rescue but never seem to be 437 00:24:43.880 --> 00:24:47.680 able to find them either. The weather coming on so 438 00:24:47.759 --> 00:24:51.039 suddenly and so strong all at once is another very 439 00:24:51.079 --> 00:24:54.000 familiar factor when talking about the missing in the woods 440 00:24:54.000 --> 00:24:57.680 and the mountains. In fact, there were weeks late for 441 00:24:57.759 --> 00:24:59.799 any snow at all, and the weather started out that 442 00:25:00.039 --> 00:25:03.480 d is sunny and warm. This is just one of 443 00:25:03.519 --> 00:25:06.279 the many parameters we now look at while investigating the 444 00:25:06.319 --> 00:25:11.000 strange deaths and disappearances in the national parks. How and 445 00:25:11.000 --> 00:25:14.079 why did it all come on so suddenly, almost remarkably so? 446 00:25:14.960 --> 00:25:17.559 I guess we'll never know, But that doesn't stop us 447 00:25:17.599 --> 00:25:20.720 from investigating and pondering and searching for answers in the truth, though, 448 00:25:20.880 --> 00:25:28.480 does it? Number two Ranger Randy Morgeson. In July of 449 00:25:28.519 --> 00:25:31.839 nineteen ninety six, Ranger Randy Morgeson was working as a 450 00:25:31.880 --> 00:25:36.960 backcountry ranger at Sequoia in Kings Canyon National Parks. He 451 00:25:37.000 --> 00:25:39.599 was the most ranger in the High Sierras, having been 452 00:25:39.599 --> 00:25:42.480 a backwoods ranger for twenty eight years at that time. 453 00:25:44.000 --> 00:25:47.279 On this particular day, July twenty first, nineteen ninety six, 454 00:25:47.559 --> 00:25:49.720 Randy loaded his pack and went on his routine and 455 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:53.160 regular patrol of his station. He was sixty four years 456 00:25:53.200 --> 00:25:56.640 old and then almost perfect health. Some of his co 457 00:25:56.759 --> 00:25:59.119 workers even thought he was invincible and impervious to the 458 00:25:59.279 --> 00:26:02.400 perils that came with a job. It was just about 459 00:26:02.480 --> 00:26:04.960 daybreak when he headed out to patrol near Bench Lake, 460 00:26:05.400 --> 00:26:07.599 taking nothing with him but an old ski pole to 461 00:26:07.680 --> 00:26:11.000 use as a hiking stick. He was never seen or 462 00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:16.039 heard from again. Now, as is often the case in 463 00:26:16.079 --> 00:26:19.839 these strange disappearances, a sudden rain started to fall blew 464 00:26:19.920 --> 00:26:23.240 up out of nowhere, got rid of any footprints or 465 00:26:23.279 --> 00:26:26.160 other evidence as to where Ranger Randy could have possibly 466 00:26:26.200 --> 00:26:29.119 gone or what could have happened to him. Over the 467 00:26:29.119 --> 00:26:33.200 following days, there was plenty of frustration as dogs followed 468 00:26:33.200 --> 00:26:36.279 since that seemed to abruptly stop, and random pieces of 469 00:26:36.359 --> 00:26:39.599 gear were found in several different locations, but none could 470 00:26:39.599 --> 00:26:43.880 be positively linked to Randy. A Flare helicopter equipped with 471 00:26:43.880 --> 00:26:46.880 an infrared camera picked up a campfire burning on a hillside, 472 00:26:47.119 --> 00:26:51.000 but with no one insight tending it. Eventually, the search 473 00:26:51.119 --> 00:26:54.119 was called off with no sign of Randy or a body. 474 00:26:55.200 --> 00:26:58.480 Then a letter arrived at Randy and Judy Morganson's home 475 00:26:58.519 --> 00:27:03.240 in Sodona, Arizona. Randy Judy opened the letter and noted 476 00:27:03.240 --> 00:27:06.039 it had been postmarked two days after his apparent disappearance. 477 00:27:07.720 --> 00:27:10.240 Since there is no postal service in the National Park 478 00:27:10.839 --> 00:27:13.640 Judy didn't understand just how Randy could have mailed the letter. 479 00:27:14.480 --> 00:27:16.880 That added to the suspicions that he had simply left 480 00:27:16.880 --> 00:27:18.680 the area to start a new life away from the 481 00:27:18.759 --> 00:27:23.519 National Park Service. Thirteen days after Randy had been reported 482 00:27:23.559 --> 00:27:27.519 missing in early August nineteen ninety six, the official search, 483 00:27:27.640 --> 00:27:31.880 which included helicopters, dog teams, and dozens upon dozens of volunteers, 484 00:27:32.200 --> 00:27:35.799 was called off. Not a single trace of Randy had 485 00:27:35.839 --> 00:27:41.519 been found, not even a footprint. Finally, in July two 486 00:27:41.519 --> 00:27:44.279 thousand and one, five years after the search was called 487 00:27:44.279 --> 00:27:47.000 off for Randy, a nineteen year old member of a 488 00:27:47.079 --> 00:27:51.319 California Conservation Corps trail building crew ventured off trail and 489 00:27:51.400 --> 00:27:55.279 found some remains. The worker found some new evidence near 490 00:27:55.279 --> 00:27:58.200 a creek and a gorge in the Widowpeak drainage, very 491 00:27:58.319 --> 00:28:01.319 near the outermost borders of the search, below the pools 492 00:28:01.319 --> 00:28:05.079 of a waterfall. Rangers were called in to search and 493 00:28:05.160 --> 00:28:09.400 soon discovered a tattered shirt with Morganson's badge attached, then 494 00:28:09.440 --> 00:28:13.440 a backpack with a buckle fastened, and a boot. On 495 00:28:13.559 --> 00:28:16.920 close examination of the single boot, which was half submerged 496 00:28:16.960 --> 00:28:19.799 in water, it had something white protruding from. 497 00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:21.799 It, a leg bone. 498 00:28:22.400 --> 00:28:24.400 The boot and pack seemed to match the description of 499 00:28:24.400 --> 00:28:28.720 gear that Randy reportedly had been using that day. Teams 500 00:28:28.720 --> 00:28:32.279 for both investigation and recovery were flown in, and shortly 501 00:28:32.319 --> 00:28:35.759 after a functioning park issue radio was discovered, resting on 502 00:28:35.839 --> 00:28:38.359 top of the falls, not at the bottom like the 503 00:28:38.400 --> 00:28:43.160 other evidence. It was turned to the on position. This 504 00:28:43.279 --> 00:28:47.599 discovery confused matters even more. Although these remains seemed to 505 00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.799 confirm Randy had been in the mountains the whole time, 506 00:28:50.359 --> 00:28:53.279 investigators weren't certain whether this is where Randy had died. 507 00:28:54.279 --> 00:28:57.680 Rangers had remembered already searching the goorge and crossing at 508 00:28:57.680 --> 00:29:02.160 the exact spot where the radio was found. Retired Sierra 509 00:29:02.279 --> 00:29:06.440 Subdistrict ranger Aldon Nash, believes Morgeson had fallen through a 510 00:29:06.480 --> 00:29:09.279 snowbridge and broken his leg, and his body had simply 511 00:29:09.279 --> 00:29:13.640 been hidden beneath ice throughout the search. Weirdly, during the 512 00:29:13.680 --> 00:29:17.960 rescue attempt in nineteen ninety six, Randy's wife Judy had 513 00:29:18.000 --> 00:29:21.480 dreamed of a dead man floating in a lake. I 514 00:29:21.519 --> 00:29:24.640 don't think it was an accident, says Eric Blm, author 515 00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:27.240 of The Last Season, a book about the disappearance of 516 00:29:27.400 --> 00:29:29.160 Randy Morgeson, which is well. 517 00:29:29.000 --> 00:29:29.559 Worth a read. 518 00:29:29.599 --> 00:29:33.119 By the way, Blim says, Randy may have wanted to 519 00:29:33.160 --> 00:29:35.279 appear to have died on the job just to make 520 00:29:35.319 --> 00:29:37.640 sure Judy, who was to his wife at the time, 521 00:29:37.839 --> 00:29:41.160 got the benefit from the government, a policy not honored 522 00:29:41.200 --> 00:29:44.400 in the case of taking one's own life. If he 523 00:29:44.440 --> 00:29:46.759 wanted to throw off the dogs or sucker people into 524 00:29:46.799 --> 00:29:49.720 believing something happened, he did a great job, Blim says, 525 00:29:50.519 --> 00:29:53.680 after so many years with the bones nod, there's no 526 00:29:53.799 --> 00:29:54.640 way to say. 527 00:29:54.519 --> 00:29:55.720 Exactly what happened. 528 00:29:56.960 --> 00:29:59.880 The National Park Service named a peak in memory of 529 00:30:01.039 --> 00:30:04.920 the unofficial Mount Morgeson. So named in his memory is 530 00:30:04.960 --> 00:30:07.200 the first peak west of Mount Russell, a half a 531 00:30:07.240 --> 00:30:11.359 mile away and just north of Mount Whitney. Mount Morgeson 532 00:30:11.359 --> 00:30:13.640 should be distinguished from the west peak of Mount Russell, 533 00:30:13.759 --> 00:30:16.680 the higher than Russell's twin summits, which are only separated 534 00:30:16.680 --> 00:30:20.279 by tenth of a mile. A summit registered with the 535 00:30:20.359 --> 00:30:24.880 name Mount Randy Morgeson thirteen nine and twenty feet was 536 00:30:24.920 --> 00:30:26.839 taken to the top by two park veterans in two 537 00:30:26.880 --> 00:30:31.599 thousand and seven. A peak bagger named Richard Petowski found 538 00:30:31.640 --> 00:30:34.359 the original register missing when he climbed Mount Morgeson on 539 00:30:34.440 --> 00:30:37.720 June twentieth, two thousand and eight. He placed a temporary 540 00:30:37.759 --> 00:30:40.119 one that day and made a huge effort to return 541 00:30:40.160 --> 00:30:42.160 to the summit one week later with a weather proof 542 00:30:42.200 --> 00:30:46.880 AMMO can and a replacement journal. Barely a handful of people, 543 00:30:47.039 --> 00:30:54.440 if any, sign it each year. Number three Ranger Brendan Unit, Lara, 544 00:30:54.519 --> 00:30:58.279 merc County, Colorado, Department of National Resources Ranger Brendan Unit, 545 00:30:58.440 --> 00:31:01.440 twenty seven years old went missing while out searching at 546 00:31:01.519 --> 00:31:05.160 night for a missing boter Well. There been nothing reported 547 00:31:05.160 --> 00:31:08.039 about the results of the initial missing person who Brendan 548 00:31:08.160 --> 00:31:11.759 was looking for. It seems a sudden high wind event 549 00:31:12.279 --> 00:31:15.000 caused him to capsize in his boat and die of 550 00:31:15.079 --> 00:31:19.880 what was officially said to beat fresh water drowning. Now, folks, 551 00:31:19.960 --> 00:31:22.279 I'm no expert, but what I do know about is 552 00:31:22.319 --> 00:31:25.000 the strange weather events and causes of death that just 553 00:31:25.079 --> 00:31:27.599 don't fit the season or the profession the person in 554 00:31:27.680 --> 00:31:30.359 question was in. And I'm not the only one either. 555 00:31:31.799 --> 00:31:36.279 Many people are wondering how professional outdoorsmen could capsize and 556 00:31:36.359 --> 00:31:40.519 drown and what about this so called strange high wind event. 557 00:31:41.359 --> 00:31:43.519 Why does there always seem to be a sudden change 558 00:31:43.559 --> 00:31:46.279 in the weather during one of these missing persons encounters. 559 00:31:47.599 --> 00:31:49.519 These are the things many of us in this community 560 00:31:49.559 --> 00:31:53.839 wonder about after seeing case after case after case the 561 00:31:53.880 --> 00:31:57.160 same thing over and over again, but never with any 562 00:31:57.200 --> 00:32:04.240 definitive or even sensical answers. Number four ranger Jeff Christensen. 563 00:32:05.519 --> 00:32:08.240 In July of two thousand and five, another seasonal park 564 00:32:08.319 --> 00:32:11.960 ranger died under mysterious circumstances in the same county. Brendan 565 00:32:12.079 --> 00:32:16.119 unit passed away in as well. Jeff Christensen was conducting 566 00:32:16.160 --> 00:32:19.880 a routine backcountry patrol of the Lake Lawn trailhead when 567 00:32:19.920 --> 00:32:22.920 he allegedly lost his footing and fell from Mummy's Range 568 00:32:23.079 --> 00:32:27.680 in Rocky Mountain National Park in Laramber County, Colorado. The 569 00:32:27.680 --> 00:32:30.279 search for the initially missing ranger lasted a little over 570 00:32:30.279 --> 00:32:32.880 a week, and he was found on August sixth, two 571 00:32:32.920 --> 00:32:36.240 thousand and five by a hiker. The official cause of 572 00:32:36.279 --> 00:32:39.920 death was a left temporal skull fracture that led to 573 00:32:39.960 --> 00:32:43.680 a subdural hematoma. The ranger has been said to have 574 00:32:43.720 --> 00:32:46.319 lost his footing and died of a tragic accidental fall. 575 00:32:47.519 --> 00:32:49.720 He'd only been on the job for four years and 576 00:32:49.880 --> 00:32:51.279 was survived by his parents. 577 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:53.319 Now is it. 578 00:32:53.319 --> 00:32:55.839 Possible for someone with at least four years experience to 579 00:32:55.880 --> 00:32:58.839 die of something so simple? Could it be that there's 580 00:32:58.920 --> 00:33:02.799 something out there in Ournwa parks and forest hunting these rangers. 581 00:33:03.599 --> 00:33:06.319 Perhaps they or it wants to take out the people 582 00:33:06.319 --> 00:33:07.920 who are going to be able to help and possibly 583 00:33:07.960 --> 00:33:11.160 even save the other people this mysterious predator or predators 584 00:33:11.480 --> 00:33:15.000 are trying to take out. We must keep searching for 585 00:33:15.039 --> 00:33:17.480 the truth. We owe it to all the people who 586 00:33:17.519 --> 00:33:20.480 die of something that is seemingly simple and accidental, but 587 00:33:20.559 --> 00:33:25.960 could very well be something much more sinister. Number five 588 00:33:26.799 --> 00:33:32.960 Ranger Paul Fugate. Here is yet another tragic account of 589 00:33:33.000 --> 00:33:36.960 a park ranger who vanished mysteriously while doing his job, 590 00:33:37.480 --> 00:33:40.960 never to be seen or heard from again. Now, Paul 591 00:33:41.119 --> 00:33:44.119 was known as a rebel and even anti establishment, to 592 00:33:44.160 --> 00:33:46.759 a point he stayed for weeks at a time in 593 00:33:46.799 --> 00:33:48.480 a small cobblestone cabin. 594 00:33:48.240 --> 00:33:49.319 On side of the monument. 595 00:33:50.200 --> 00:33:52.480 He was a nationalist who did small tasks such as 596 00:33:52.599 --> 00:33:57.240 answering the visitors questions and putting together trail guides. Originally, 597 00:33:57.279 --> 00:34:00.119 Paul worked at the Navajo Monument in Arizona, but it 598 00:34:00.200 --> 00:34:02.839 was transferred soon after being disciplined by one of his 599 00:34:02.920 --> 00:34:07.839 bosses about his laziness and slovenly appearance. Apparently, this supervisor 600 00:34:07.880 --> 00:34:09.800 admitted in a later report that he was annoyed he 601 00:34:09.800 --> 00:34:12.639 couldn't technically fire Paul, and also that he hated the 602 00:34:12.719 --> 00:34:16.440 hippies coming in to work for the monument. Paul was 603 00:34:16.519 --> 00:34:19.119 charged with stealing government equipment when he took some hay 604 00:34:19.159 --> 00:34:22.679 home for his wife's horse. He was in an openly 605 00:34:22.880 --> 00:34:26.119 open relationship with his wife and sleeping with multiple women 606 00:34:26.159 --> 00:34:30.360 who were co workers. While all of this may seem irrelevant, 607 00:34:31.039 --> 00:34:33.079 we must look at every aspect we can of a 608 00:34:33.119 --> 00:34:36.639 person's life when they go missing under such strange circumstances, 609 00:34:37.079 --> 00:34:40.239 especially when people in their profession are seemingly doing so. 610 00:34:40.280 --> 00:34:42.719 At an alarming rate, and have been for a while. 611 00:34:43.840 --> 00:34:46.360 Before he left his post that fateful day, he left 612 00:34:46.360 --> 00:34:48.760 instructions with the only other staff member there that if 613 00:34:48.760 --> 00:34:51.079 he wasn't back by a certain time, for them to 614 00:34:51.079 --> 00:34:54.320 close up without him. He then walked out and down 615 00:34:54.360 --> 00:34:56.679 towards the area of land the park was about to acquire, 616 00:34:57.280 --> 00:34:59.719 one which was shrouded in problems, as there had been 617 00:34:59.800 --> 00:35:02.519 much conflict about the four hundred acre purchase with the 618 00:35:02.519 --> 00:35:07.159 local Apache tribe. Again, he was never seen or heard from, 619 00:35:07.559 --> 00:35:09.519 and nobody has ever been found. 620 00:35:13.920 --> 00:35:22.039 Oh, I've been separated from my group. It's been a 621 00:35:22.079 --> 00:35:22.840 couple of hours now. 622 00:35:22.840 --> 00:35:23.159 I think. 623 00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:24.039 I'm not sure. 624 00:35:24.119 --> 00:35:26.119 I was trying to find my way out and I can't, 625 00:35:26.400 --> 00:35:28.880 but I'm gonna stay here. I don't think that I 626 00:35:28.960 --> 00:35:34.800 went too far. I am. I'm not sure that I 627 00:35:34.800 --> 00:35:42.280 don't know the name of the cave. The last the 628 00:35:42.440 --> 00:35:49.159 last entry point was somewhere near to them, Guantanamo, Mexico. 629 00:35:49.400 --> 00:35:52.320 If someone can notify the police or the authorities, or 630 00:35:52.360 --> 00:35:56.400 someone can help, I'm gonna stay here. I have water 631 00:35:57.199 --> 00:36:01.360 and some food. I'm going to see here. 632 00:36:01.400 --> 00:36:09.079 Actually, Hello, friends, Steve's talkton here with you. 633 00:36:09.480 --> 00:36:09.679 Now. 634 00:36:09.800 --> 00:36:12.039 For some, a walk in the wilderness can be the 635 00:36:12.039 --> 00:36:15.239 perfect getaway from everyday life and a chance to reconnect 636 00:36:15.360 --> 00:36:18.360 with mother Nature. For others, great outdoors can be a 637 00:36:18.440 --> 00:36:21.559 dangerous place, and unfortunately there's a place where many people 638 00:36:21.679 --> 00:36:25.480 meet their end or just mysteriously vanish. Heircases for you 639 00:36:25.519 --> 00:36:33.400 to consider. Randy Rascoe. On November nineteenth, twenty fifteen, park 640 00:36:33.480 --> 00:36:36.760 rangers at the Mammoth Cave National Park in Kentucky noticed 641 00:36:36.800 --> 00:36:38.480 that a car had been sitting in the car park 642 00:36:38.519 --> 00:36:42.639 for around two weeks. This immediately set off warning bells, 643 00:36:43.400 --> 00:36:46.679 and after doing some digging for information, they discovered that 644 00:36:46.719 --> 00:36:50.239 the car belonged to forty year old Randy Rascoe. As 645 00:36:50.280 --> 00:36:52.239 the car had been there for quite some time, the 646 00:36:52.280 --> 00:36:55.760 park rangers set about searching for Randy right away. When 647 00:36:55.800 --> 00:36:57.920 he couldn't be found in or near the parking area, 648 00:36:58.239 --> 00:37:02.679 they opened an investigation and widened their search. Park rangers 649 00:37:02.719 --> 00:37:05.639 and investigators contacted Randy's family to see if they had 650 00:37:05.639 --> 00:37:08.880 spoken to him, but chillingly, they had been out of 651 00:37:08.880 --> 00:37:13.360 contact for a few months. According to his sister Sherry, 652 00:37:14.039 --> 00:37:17.519 up until May twenty fifteen, everything was normal on a 653 00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:21.639 regular basis. He was doing his normal things, hunting, fishing, 654 00:37:21.760 --> 00:37:24.119 and kept in contact with her brother who lived close 655 00:37:24.159 --> 00:37:24.519 to his. 656 00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:25.519 Bowling Green apartment. 657 00:37:26.239 --> 00:37:28.440 Then, one day, out of the blue, he packed up 658 00:37:28.440 --> 00:37:31.039 his belongings, quit his job, and had his mail forward 659 00:37:31.119 --> 00:37:34.960 it to another address, and just left. Cherry said they 660 00:37:34.960 --> 00:37:37.280 filed a missing person's report after they found out he 661 00:37:37.320 --> 00:37:39.920 had just fled and were worried as he had recently 662 00:37:39.920 --> 00:37:44.119 gotten divorced. For a month, the Rascoe family waited for 663 00:37:44.199 --> 00:37:46.960 any news, and in June he was found safe and 664 00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:50.320 sound in Washington State. Randy made it clear that he 665 00:37:50.360 --> 00:37:52.360 didn't want to speak to his family at that time 666 00:37:52.480 --> 00:37:55.840 and wanted to be alone. As painful as it was, 667 00:37:56.199 --> 00:37:58.679 his family respected his boundaries and assured him they would 668 00:37:58.679 --> 00:38:01.880 welcome him back with open arms whenever he was ready. 669 00:38:02.599 --> 00:38:05.639 For the next few months, it's believed that Randy traveled 670 00:38:05.679 --> 00:38:10.039 all around the US a while maintaining his privacy and secrecy. 671 00:38:10.199 --> 00:38:12.679 His family didn't know that anything was wrong until the 672 00:38:12.679 --> 00:38:16.079 Mammoth Cave National Park rangers contacted them to let them 673 00:38:16.079 --> 00:38:19.079 know that his car had been found abandoned. With this 674 00:38:19.280 --> 00:38:22.320 second disappearance, his family hoped that there would be a 675 00:38:22.320 --> 00:38:29.599 positive resolution, but sadly, Randy Rascoe is still missing. Search crews, volunteers, 676 00:38:29.599 --> 00:38:31.800 and even the Civil Air Patrol all joined the end 677 00:38:32.000 --> 00:38:35.360 of the search for Randy, scarringly over fifty three thousand 678 00:38:35.360 --> 00:38:38.960 acres of land of the park. Despite their best efforts 679 00:38:38.960 --> 00:38:42.480 and multiple searches, no sign of Randy has ever been found, 680 00:38:42.920 --> 00:38:44.880 and his car is the only clue we have in 681 00:38:44.960 --> 00:38:49.239 terms of his mysterious disappearance. Randy Rascoe is described as 682 00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:52.159 a white male six foot two inches taught with black hair, 683 00:38:52.599 --> 00:38:56.840 hazel eyes, and a slim, athletic build. Anyone with any 684 00:38:56.880 --> 00:39:00.519 information is as to please contact the Mammoth Cave National 685 00:39:00.519 --> 00:39:04.320 Park at two seven zero seven five eighty two to 686 00:39:04.360 --> 00:39:11.239 one eight zero. Catherine van Alst, eight year old Katherine 687 00:39:11.360 --> 00:39:15.920 van Alst, disappeared from Devil's Den State Park near Arkansas's 688 00:39:15.960 --> 00:39:19.679 Ozark National Forest when she and her family were camping. 689 00:39:21.119 --> 00:39:23.840 Catherine apparently was playing with her brothers when she wandered 690 00:39:23.880 --> 00:39:28.760 off and got lost. What makes Catherine's disappearance remarkable is 691 00:39:28.840 --> 00:39:32.760 she was found six days later. When found she was 692 00:39:32.800 --> 00:39:37.599 wandering the woods and was eerily calm. University of Arkansas 693 00:39:37.639 --> 00:39:40.400 student Border Chadwick was part of the search party that 694 00:39:40.519 --> 00:39:44.360 found Catherine. He told the Pittsburgh Press that when he 695 00:39:44.440 --> 00:39:47.119 found her, she walked starically out of a cave and 696 00:39:47.199 --> 00:39:51.519 just said, here I am. Many other hikers have gotten 697 00:39:51.559 --> 00:39:53.880 lost in that part of the Ozarks and haven't been 698 00:39:53.920 --> 00:39:57.360 as lucky as Catherine. A grown woman was lost there 699 00:39:57.400 --> 00:40:01.840 for seventeen days and died just fifty yards from the road. 700 00:40:02.760 --> 00:40:06.159 How did Catherine survive in the woods for six days? 701 00:40:06.880 --> 00:40:09.800 Did someone take her only to return her six days later? 702 00:40:10.800 --> 00:40:12.679 Or is there an explanation of this story that we 703 00:40:12.760 --> 00:40:18.920 simply can't comprehend. Either way, someone or something might just 704 00:40:19.000 --> 00:40:25.920 be lurking in Devil's den. Kenny Veach Forty seven year 705 00:40:25.920 --> 00:40:28.800 old Kenny Veach mysteriously disappeared in the Mohave Desert in 706 00:40:28.840 --> 00:40:33.320 Nevada on November fourteenth, twenty fourteen. Kenny was hiking near 707 00:40:33.400 --> 00:40:36.400 Area fifty one and was looking for cave systems and 708 00:40:36.519 --> 00:40:40.320 mine shafts. Kenny has uploaded several videos to his YouTube 709 00:40:40.400 --> 00:40:43.960 channel under the username snake Bitt McGee, where he describes 710 00:40:44.079 --> 00:40:47.239 entering a cave with an M shaped opening. He wrote 711 00:40:47.239 --> 00:40:50.719 in one comment that ain't nothing. I'm a long distance hiker. 712 00:40:51.400 --> 00:40:53.360 One time, during one of my hikes out by Nellis 713 00:40:53.400 --> 00:40:57.119 Air Force Base. I found a hidden cave. The entrance 714 00:40:57.119 --> 00:40:59.360 to the cave was shaped like a perfect capital M. 715 00:41:00.280 --> 00:41:02.840 I always enter every cave I find, but as I 716 00:41:02.880 --> 00:41:05.840 began to enter this particular cave, my whole body began 717 00:41:05.880 --> 00:41:09.840 to vibrate. Suddenly, I became very scared and I tailed 718 00:41:09.920 --> 00:41:12.280 out of there. That was one of the strangest things 719 00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:15.639 that ever happened to me. Now, these videos gained popularity 720 00:41:15.679 --> 00:41:19.159 following his mysterious disappearance, and in these videos he does 721 00:41:19.199 --> 00:41:21.800 indeed talk about how his whole body vibrated and he 722 00:41:21.840 --> 00:41:25.639 felt scared upon entering this mysterious M cave armed with 723 00:41:25.679 --> 00:41:28.320 a gun and a camera. This time, Kenny headed back 724 00:41:28.320 --> 00:41:31.400 out to the M cave on November tenth, twenty fourteen, 725 00:41:31.760 --> 00:41:35.559 hoping to get a better look inside. However, Kenny never 726 00:41:35.639 --> 00:41:39.559 returned home. Although he was a very experienced hiker and outdoorsman, 727 00:41:39.679 --> 00:41:42.239 Kenny rarely took a map or GPS device with him 728 00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:45.079 on his hikes. According to his family, on the day 729 00:41:45.079 --> 00:41:46.960 of his disappearance, he told him that he would only 730 00:41:47.000 --> 00:41:49.760 be gone for a short overnight trip. Then when he 731 00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:54.480 didn't return home, they immediately called the police, police volunteers, 732 00:41:54.480 --> 00:41:56.679 and search and rescue teams all scattered the area where 733 00:41:56.719 --> 00:42:00.519 Kenny was last known to have been. On November twenty fourteen, 734 00:42:00.920 --> 00:42:05.719 volunteers found Kenny's phone. According to those volunteers, the trail 735 00:42:05.760 --> 00:42:08.480 went cold soon after they located his phone, and there 736 00:42:08.559 --> 00:42:11.320 have been no signs of Kenny ever since. At the 737 00:42:11.360 --> 00:42:14.800 time of this episode, the mysterious disappearance of Kenny Beach 738 00:42:15.199 --> 00:42:17.760 is very much alive in true crime and paranormal circles, 739 00:42:18.320 --> 00:42:21.639 but it appears that we are still no closer to uncovering. 740 00:42:21.199 --> 00:42:21.880 The truth. 741 00:42:23.800 --> 00:42:27.360 Devil's Whole and the tragic disappearance of two teens in 742 00:42:27.480 --> 00:42:31.800 nineteen sixty five. Now, there's just something about a place 743 00:42:31.880 --> 00:42:35.320 with the name devil in its title that pigs the 744 00:42:35.320 --> 00:42:39.719 curiosity of some people. There are countless locations all over 745 00:42:39.760 --> 00:42:42.480 the world which have this particular. 746 00:42:42.000 --> 00:42:43.079 Word in their name. 747 00:42:44.679 --> 00:42:47.679 Not only devil, either, there are many other words that 748 00:42:47.760 --> 00:42:51.440 symbolize or mean devil or evil, or some other form 749 00:42:51.519 --> 00:42:55.280 of something not very good or beautiful, given somewhate ironically 750 00:42:55.360 --> 00:43:00.320 to some of the world's most breathtaking and wondrous places. Times, 751 00:43:00.480 --> 00:43:04.000 the location will have got its name innocently enough, such 752 00:43:04.000 --> 00:43:07.079 as because the geology of the place simply looks foreboding 753 00:43:07.119 --> 00:43:11.639 and sinister, especially under the cover of night. Much of 754 00:43:11.679 --> 00:43:16.239 the time, these particular places are said to be cursed, enchanted, 755 00:43:16.400 --> 00:43:20.400 or downright evil, and the spooky and scary landscape only 756 00:43:20.480 --> 00:43:24.960 lends credence to these rumors and legends. So much of 757 00:43:25.000 --> 00:43:27.719 the time, though, these places with this particular word in 758 00:43:27.760 --> 00:43:32.079 the title are associated with not just devils, demon spirits, 759 00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:39.840 and other other worldly phenomenon, but with real tragedies, disappearances, deaths, 760 00:43:39.880 --> 00:43:44.920 maybe bizarre sounds and strange lights in the sky. Today, though, 761 00:43:45.159 --> 00:43:48.599 we're going to focus on one place in particular, where 762 00:43:48.679 --> 00:43:53.519 a mysterious tragedy struck Devil's Hole, which is located in 763 00:43:53.559 --> 00:43:57.639 the aptly named Death Valley National Park in California, United States. 764 00:43:58.880 --> 00:44:01.679 This portion of the Mahabi Desert contained in Death Valley 765 00:44:01.760 --> 00:44:04.960 National Park is the driest and hottest place in the 766 00:44:05.079 --> 00:44:09.119 United States. Near bad Water in the Long Trench of 767 00:44:09.119 --> 00:44:11.679 the desert, between the Panamint Range on the west and 768 00:44:11.760 --> 00:44:14.400 the Black Mountains on the east, is the lowest dry 769 00:44:14.480 --> 00:44:18.559 land in the Western Hemisphere, an amazing two hundred and 770 00:44:18.599 --> 00:44:23.119 eighty two feet below sea level, A veritable showcase of 771 00:44:23.199 --> 00:44:27.280 desert extremes. Death Valley National Park includes one of the 772 00:44:27.360 --> 00:44:33.960 largest salt pans on Earth, dramatically faulted landscapes, young volcanic craters, 773 00:44:34.559 --> 00:44:38.960 and massive dune fields. Today, we're going all the way 774 00:44:39.000 --> 00:44:43.000 back to the year nineteen sixty five. Death Valley was 775 00:44:43.079 --> 00:44:45.920 very different from the Los Angeles of the time, where 776 00:44:45.960 --> 00:44:49.000 there were uprisings happening all over the place and all 777 00:44:49.039 --> 00:44:53.960 of it being shown live on the evening news. Death Valley, California, 778 00:44:54.800 --> 00:44:56.639 was in one of the least populated parts of the 779 00:44:56.679 --> 00:45:00.239 state at the time, and a whole different world the 780 00:45:00.280 --> 00:45:04.960 more largely inhabited cities which surrounded it. On June twentieth, 781 00:45:05.079 --> 00:45:08.719 nineteen sixty five, four high school buddies set out to 782 00:45:08.800 --> 00:45:13.239 remote desert location about ninety miles northwest of Las Vegas. 783 00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:17.840 Their intent was to joydive into a deep geothermal abyss 784 00:45:17.920 --> 00:45:22.920 called Devil's Hole. Sadly, two the young men would never 785 00:45:22.960 --> 00:45:28.000 re emerge from this mysterious fossil water portal. Arriving at 786 00:45:28.039 --> 00:45:32.079 their destination, the foursome hiked up a hot barren hillsite 787 00:45:32.320 --> 00:45:35.880 which overlooked a large scale ranching operation that would nearly 788 00:45:35.920 --> 00:45:40.360 erase a much smaller and nearly ancient complex called ash Meadows. 789 00:45:40.599 --> 00:45:44.800 Within a few short years, a well traveled trail led 790 00:45:44.800 --> 00:45:48.239 to the entrance of a limestone chasm that had allegedly 791 00:45:48.320 --> 00:45:52.119 opened a whopping sixty thousand years ago after possibly some 792 00:45:52.239 --> 00:45:55.039 seismic event caused the roof of the cave to collapse 793 00:45:55.039 --> 00:45:58.480 in on itself. The Foursome of Boys, which was made 794 00:45:58.559 --> 00:46:01.960 up of Paul gian Kant's, a nineteen year old cafeteria 795 00:46:02.000 --> 00:46:06.000 worker at the nearby Nevada Test site, his new brother 796 00:46:06.039 --> 00:46:08.639 in law, twenty year old David Rose, who was a 797 00:46:08.719 --> 00:46:12.679 Las Vegas casino parking attendant, were with their other friend, 798 00:46:13.280 --> 00:46:16.320 nineteen year old Bill Alter, and his younger brother Jack. 799 00:46:17.239 --> 00:46:20.920 Boys scrambled under a fenced enclosure posted with warning signs, 800 00:46:21.320 --> 00:46:24.400 and thinking they were immune to any trouble these warning 801 00:46:24.440 --> 00:46:27.679 signs might be posted about, they proceeded to descend the 802 00:46:27.719 --> 00:46:30.239 thirty or so feet down to a ledge where the 803 00:46:30.280 --> 00:46:33.760 faint but flitting movement of tiny blue gray pupfish could 804 00:46:33.760 --> 00:46:35.079 be observed swimming. 805 00:46:34.880 --> 00:46:36.480 In the eight by sixty foot pool. 806 00:46:37.280 --> 00:46:39.360 That is, if any of the four young men had 807 00:46:39.360 --> 00:46:41.519 bothered to look just a bit closer at what they 808 00:46:41.519 --> 00:46:46.920 were about to jump into. After Suiting up with scuba tanks, masks, 809 00:46:46.920 --> 00:46:50.519 and dive lights, Paul, David, and Bill dove into the 810 00:46:50.519 --> 00:46:56.280 claustrophobic waters. The temperature was nearly indistinguishable from that of 811 00:46:56.320 --> 00:46:56.800 their skin. 812 00:46:58.320 --> 00:46:59.039 Upon entering the. 813 00:46:59.039 --> 00:47:02.800 Pool, The boys most likely disturbed the delicate algae spalling mats, 814 00:47:02.840 --> 00:47:07.480 where the entire population of the exceedingly rare Cyprinodon diabolus 815 00:47:07.760 --> 00:47:12.239 continues to prosper and breed exclusively. Jack was the only 816 00:47:12.280 --> 00:47:14.320 one who hadn't jumped in, as he was delegated the 817 00:47:14.360 --> 00:47:17.079 one who would remain stationed on the ledge in case 818 00:47:17.119 --> 00:47:22.960 anything went wrong. Some time after midnight, Paul failed to resurface, 819 00:47:23.079 --> 00:47:25.639 so David and Bill quickly redove into the waters in 820 00:47:25.639 --> 00:47:29.119 a vain attempt to locate their missing friend. Bill Alter 821 00:47:29.360 --> 00:47:32.039 frantically followed David Rose down to approximately one hundred and 822 00:47:32.079 --> 00:47:36.639 seventy feet until David two disappeared into the darkness. The 823 00:47:36.679 --> 00:47:40.760 bodies of the brothers in law were never recovered. Many 824 00:47:40.800 --> 00:47:43.960 people believed back then and still do believe that these 825 00:47:44.000 --> 00:47:46.440 young men were inspired to go diving at night despite 826 00:47:46.480 --> 00:47:49.519 the dangers in the specific place, because of a newspaper 827 00:47:49.639 --> 00:47:54.360 article from the year before which detailed a speleological research 828 00:47:54.440 --> 00:47:58.559 expedition of a massive underground lake below Death Valley led 829 00:47:58.599 --> 00:48:02.719 by a California base professional diver, Jim House, who would 830 00:48:02.760 --> 00:48:06.599 ironically dive numerous times around the clock with military personnel 831 00:48:06.639 --> 00:48:09.639 and other volunteer divers in their attempt to locate the 832 00:48:09.679 --> 00:48:13.079 missing men for thirty six whole hours until the search 833 00:48:13.199 --> 00:48:16.599 was eventually called off. The only traces left of the 834 00:48:16.679 --> 00:48:21.199 two brother in laws a mask and a snorkel. There 835 00:48:21.199 --> 00:48:24.480 was also a flashlight tied to allege some hundred feet below. 836 00:48:25.079 --> 00:48:28.239 It seemed to signal and effectively the way out of 837 00:48:28.280 --> 00:48:33.719 the otherworldly underwater cave system. Articles detailing the unsuccessful rescue 838 00:48:33.719 --> 00:48:38.000 effort were published nationwide in the Sarasota Journal, date of 839 00:48:38.079 --> 00:48:41.400 June twenty second, eighteen sixty five. Outstated that he had 840 00:48:41.400 --> 00:48:44.559 previously dived in Devil's Hole around three hundred times over 841 00:48:44.599 --> 00:48:49.639 twenty eight trips, further commenting, it's beautiful in there. It 842 00:48:49.719 --> 00:48:53.199 goes straight down one hundred and sixty feet like a pipe, 843 00:48:53.480 --> 00:48:55.800 then opens into a room that is about three hundred 844 00:48:55.840 --> 00:48:59.760 feet long and maybe forty feet wide. The bottom of 845 00:48:59.760 --> 00:49:02.039 the room is about two hundred and sixty feet down. 846 00:49:02.840 --> 00:49:06.280 Then it narrows into another tube. I dive to three 847 00:49:06.360 --> 00:49:09.679 hundred and fifteen feet. Maybe that's a record, I don't know. 848 00:49:10.599 --> 00:49:12.519 But at the end of the tube it opens again 849 00:49:12.639 --> 00:49:16.840 into something else. We don't know what the next room is, 850 00:49:17.239 --> 00:49:20.880 or if it's a room at all. It's like infinity. 851 00:49:22.039 --> 00:49:25.280 There are some very terrifying legends from the native tribes 852 00:49:25.280 --> 00:49:27.960 of the area about this particular place called Devil's Hole. 853 00:49:29.159 --> 00:49:32.840 The Timbasha told tales of water babies who would surface 854 00:49:32.880 --> 00:49:35.360 and swallow a swimmer or dive or hole should they 855 00:49:35.360 --> 00:49:39.000 stay in the pool for too long. Other legends suggested 856 00:49:39.039 --> 00:49:42.880 that so a Pizi, a legendary malevolent giant who dwelled 857 00:49:42.920 --> 00:49:46.800 at mountain springs and caves, would snatch and devour unwary victims. 858 00:49:48.480 --> 00:49:53.320 Miss was standing. Barbara Durham, an elder of the Tembisious Shoshone, 859 00:49:53.559 --> 00:49:56.159 who shared these stories at a two thousand and two workshop, 860 00:49:56.960 --> 00:49:59.920 admitted that she and her friends enjoyed how the pupfish 861 00:50:00.079 --> 00:50:04.199 tickled their toes when they played in the spring. Keep 862 00:50:04.239 --> 00:50:06.840 in mind here that the Devil's Whole pupfish, as they're 863 00:50:06.880 --> 00:50:10.559 specifically named, are considered by experts to be the rarest 864 00:50:10.599 --> 00:50:14.039 fish found anywhere on the planet. They were even the 865 00:50:14.039 --> 00:50:18.519 first ever species to be classified as endangered. The fish 866 00:50:18.519 --> 00:50:20.360 are not important to the story at all, really, but 867 00:50:20.440 --> 00:50:23.239 it seemed worth mentioning in order to reinforce how very 868 00:50:23.280 --> 00:50:27.360 special and perhaps a bit magical this place actually is. 869 00:50:28.920 --> 00:50:31.039 As far as the two young men who disappeared without 870 00:50:31.039 --> 00:50:34.039 a trace back in this mystical and extremely dangerous underwater 871 00:50:34.119 --> 00:50:38.599 cave system decades ago, well, they've never been found, and 872 00:50:38.719 --> 00:50:41.360 neither have any clues relating to what could it possibly 873 00:50:41.400 --> 00:50:45.199 happen to them. As for one more bit of interesting 874 00:50:45.320 --> 00:50:47.559 fact that could lend a bit of creden says something 875 00:50:47.559 --> 00:50:50.960 a bit more sinister being afoot, as the local tribes 876 00:50:51.000 --> 00:50:55.119 absolutely believe that this otherwise serene and tranquil looking water source. 877 00:50:56.440 --> 00:51:01.280 It's said that Charles Manson himself days at Devil's Hole 878 00:51:02.159 --> 00:51:04.119 trying to figure out a way to make it safely 879 00:51:04.119 --> 00:51:07.559 down into the chasm, with some saying he was convinced 880 00:51:07.599 --> 00:51:11.559 he would never have to come back up. Allegedly, he 881 00:51:11.639 --> 00:51:14.760 had an obsession with the place that was convinced that 882 00:51:14.800 --> 00:51:18.320 there was an underwater portal to an alternate dimension, or 883 00:51:18.480 --> 00:51:22.679 more specifically, a portal to the underworld where he felt 884 00:51:22.760 --> 00:51:25.559 he and his family would be able to safely wait 885 00:51:25.559 --> 00:51:28.960 out the coming apocalypse he so famously predicted what happened 886 00:51:29.320 --> 00:51:34.320 that never actually did. Charles Manson's problem lie in figuring 887 00:51:34.360 --> 00:51:37.159 out a way to drain the hole, and it seemed 888 00:51:37.199 --> 00:51:39.239 like he may have been given this idea by an 889 00:51:39.280 --> 00:51:44.519 alleged Indian legend that resurfaced during the nineteen twenties, contending 890 00:51:44.559 --> 00:51:48.039 that a subterranean sect of leather clad humanoids lived down 891 00:51:48.159 --> 00:51:51.039 within an early yellow green lid of boat somewhere in 892 00:51:51.079 --> 00:51:55.840 the Mahabi Desert. Could this possibly be true, just as 893 00:51:55.920 --> 00:51:58.079 with the case of these poor young men just doing 894 00:51:58.119 --> 00:52:00.480 what young men do and looking for a night or 895 00:52:00.480 --> 00:52:04.880 perhaps irresponsible but never thought to be deadly fun, we 896 00:52:04.960 --> 00:52:09.239 may never actually know. So if you do visit Death 897 00:52:09.360 --> 00:52:14.840 Valley in the Mohabi Desert just outside Las Vegas, don't 898 00:52:14.920 --> 00:52:18.320 venture into Devil's Hall. 899 00:52:20.119 --> 00:52:22.960 He slat out told us, Mom, she's dead. She needs 900 00:52:22.960 --> 00:52:25.760 our help. And that's when I got the goosebumps, and 901 00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:28.599 I was like, oh my gosh. He was just in 902 00:52:28.679 --> 00:52:31.079 our car and he was pointing out to a certain 903 00:52:31.119 --> 00:52:32.000 spot in the meadow. 904 00:52:32.480 --> 00:52:35.280 While Victoria Gorba and her family stopped for lunch, her 905 00:52:35.320 --> 00:52:37.639 son Kayden, began talking to someone. 906 00:52:37.440 --> 00:52:39.320 And my husband and I kind of looked at each 907 00:52:39.360 --> 00:52:42.360 other like what, and he goes, yeah, there's a lady 908 00:52:42.400 --> 00:52:47.199 over in the meadow in a black shirt, and I 909 00:52:47.239 --> 00:52:50.800 got goosebumps. He says, she needs our help. But she's 910 00:52:50.920 --> 00:52:55.480 dead and she's laying face down with her legs up 911 00:52:56.480 --> 00:52:59.480 and she can't talk to me. But she's over there. 912 00:52:59.519 --> 00:53:00.679 We need to go help her. 913 00:53:01.079 --> 00:53:03.800 Jake and Victoria checked out the middle but saw nothing. 914 00:53:04.159 --> 00:53:06.880 He kept saying, trust me, trust me, mom, And I 915 00:53:06.920 --> 00:53:09.239 was like, I trust you, Bud. You know, I believe 916 00:53:09.280 --> 00:53:10.360 you one hundred percent. 917 00:53:10.840 --> 00:53:13.400 Spooked, the couple decided to end the trip early and 918 00:53:13.480 --> 00:53:14.599 head home, and. 919 00:53:14.480 --> 00:53:17.360 We put it on Facebook seeing if anybody knew anything 920 00:53:17.400 --> 00:53:21.039 about the area, and come to find out that there 921 00:53:21.079 --> 00:53:24.519 was a lady missing with the description that he described 922 00:53:24.559 --> 00:53:27.440 to us was in a five mile radius of where 923 00:53:27.480 --> 00:53:27.880 we were. 924 00:53:28.079 --> 00:53:31.199 Sandra Hughes had gone missing in July of twenty twenty. 925 00:53:31.519 --> 00:53:34.480 Cayden had described her in detail and recognized her in 926 00:53:34.599 --> 00:53:36.119 three of four photos. 927 00:53:36.639 --> 00:53:39.880 He was very adamant that we needed to help her, 928 00:53:41.599 --> 00:53:45.440 and he described down to blue hair. He said, she 929 00:53:45.480 --> 00:53:48.039 has a black shirt, blue jeans and blue hair. 930 00:53:48.079 --> 00:53:48.320 Mom. 931 00:53:50.320 --> 00:53:53.119 That's the exact description of her when she went missing. 932 00:53:56.119 --> 00:54:00.280 Hello, friends, We recently learned of what may be one 933 00:54:00.280 --> 00:54:03.800 of the strangest updates to a missing person case that 934 00:54:03.840 --> 00:54:07.800 we've ever brought forth. Now, sometimes in these missing person 935 00:54:07.840 --> 00:54:11.000 cases that we cover, there will be a little bit 936 00:54:11.039 --> 00:54:14.920 of a paranormal or supernatural element. It's usually something small 937 00:54:14.920 --> 00:54:18.800 and not very significant to the overall case, but sometimes 938 00:54:18.800 --> 00:54:21.360 it seems that the unknown can play a larger part 939 00:54:21.599 --> 00:54:26.360 in these cases, stories of UFOs, the fae, bigfoot, or 940 00:54:26.400 --> 00:54:32.000 rather cryptids, portals, translucent entities, etc. But is it possible 941 00:54:32.599 --> 00:54:35.400 that the ghost of a missing woman may be trying 942 00:54:35.440 --> 00:54:38.519 to help solve her disappearance, or at least help locate 943 00:54:38.599 --> 00:54:42.159 or remains. We ask that you keep an open mind 944 00:54:42.400 --> 00:54:46.559 and consider it the following case. Back in episode number 945 00:54:46.599 --> 00:54:50.559 seven of our ten Unsolved National Park Disappearances series, we 946 00:54:50.679 --> 00:54:52.559 brought you the story of Sandra Hughes. 947 00:54:53.519 --> 00:54:54.119 To recap. 948 00:54:54.880 --> 00:54:58.920 Fifty four year old Sandra Johnson Hughes of California was 949 00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:02.880 last heard from on June twenty sixth, twenty twenty. Sandra 950 00:55:02.920 --> 00:55:05.440 had embarked on a solo camping trip in the Sierra 951 00:55:05.760 --> 00:55:09.880 South of Yosemite to escape from the current pandemic. Sandra 952 00:55:09.920 --> 00:55:13.239 had recently moved from Maui, Hawaii, to California in June 953 00:55:13.280 --> 00:55:16.039 of twenty twenty. She had trained to be a park 954 00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:20.639 ranger in college and was experiencing the outdoors. On July 955 00:55:20.840 --> 00:55:24.280 fifth of that year, the Madera County Sheriff's Office asked 956 00:55:24.280 --> 00:55:27.320 for the public's help in locating Sandra after they found 957 00:55:27.320 --> 00:55:30.239 her campsite near the Johnson's Meadow section of the forest 958 00:55:30.360 --> 00:55:34.519 in disarray. On that same day, the authorities located Hughes 959 00:55:34.639 --> 00:55:38.519 Silver sob and Shequido Creek to the north of the campsite. 960 00:55:38.880 --> 00:55:40.679 They said it appeared to have crashed into a tree 961 00:55:40.760 --> 00:55:42.719 at a speed of less than twenty miles per hour 962 00:55:42.960 --> 00:55:47.559 before rolling into the ravine. Aikers reported sat Sandra on 963 00:55:47.679 --> 00:55:50.679 July fourth, twenty twenty, and said she was barefoot and 964 00:55:50.719 --> 00:55:53.719 had a bruise on her face. They offered to help her, 965 00:55:53.760 --> 00:55:58.360 but she declined. Medical assistance officers and volunteers. Search and 966 00:55:58.400 --> 00:56:00.480 rescue teams for more than half a dour and other 967 00:56:00.519 --> 00:56:04.320 sheriff's departments, together with dog teams, the California Highway Patrol, 968 00:56:04.559 --> 00:56:08.119 and the Governor's Office of Emergency Services combed the forest 969 00:56:08.199 --> 00:56:11.639 on foot, while helicopters from California Air National Guard did 970 00:56:11.679 --> 00:56:15.039 an aerial search. The search focused around the area where 971 00:56:15.039 --> 00:56:18.960 her car was found, but there was no sign of Sandra. Then, 972 00:56:19.039 --> 00:56:22.280 on August ninth, twenty twenty two, hundreds saw a woman 973 00:56:22.360 --> 00:56:25.880 leaning against a tree along Road five S zero one 974 00:56:26.159 --> 00:56:30.559 near Beieslor Road. She did not wave them down, attempt contact, 975 00:56:30.679 --> 00:56:34.519 or appear to be in any distress. Upon returning, they 976 00:56:34.639 --> 00:56:38.519 recognizer from a missing persons fire and contacted park rangers. 977 00:56:38.920 --> 00:56:41.519 The hunter said that she appears to be visibly thinner 978 00:56:41.519 --> 00:56:46.119 than her last known photos. At the time of her disappearance, 979 00:56:46.320 --> 00:56:48.840 Sandra was a fifty four year old white female with 980 00:56:49.000 --> 00:56:52.639 blue shoulder lenked hair. Her natural color is brown. She 981 00:56:52.679 --> 00:56:55.599 has brown eyes, is approximately five foot three inches tall, 982 00:56:55.840 --> 00:56:58.639 and weighs about one hundred and fifty pounds. The search 983 00:56:58.679 --> 00:57:03.800 for Sandra was on going but limited. Now flashed forward 984 00:57:03.840 --> 00:57:07.599 to almost exactly one year later. This strange update to 985 00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:12.639 the case comes from the Madeare County Sheriff's Office in Madeira, California. 986 00:57:12.840 --> 00:57:16.039 It seems that a family from nearby Course Gold, California, 987 00:57:16.559 --> 00:57:20.159 experienced a bizarre broad daylight ghost sighting in the Madeir 988 00:57:20.199 --> 00:57:23.840 County Mountains on Wednesday, July twenty first, twenty twenty one. 989 00:57:25.760 --> 00:57:28.760 The event was so strange and disturbing that the Madera 990 00:57:28.880 --> 00:57:33.159 County Sheriff's Office felt the need to further investigate. It 991 00:57:33.159 --> 00:57:36.599 seems that a man named Jake Gorba, his wife Victoria, 992 00:57:37.000 --> 00:57:39.400 and their three children decided to take their four wheeler 993 00:57:39.480 --> 00:57:41.880 up to the shut Eye Peak on that faithful Wednesday. 994 00:57:42.960 --> 00:57:45.239 While on this family outing, they stopped to have something 995 00:57:45.239 --> 00:57:48.519 to eat beside the trail, and that's when things started 996 00:57:48.519 --> 00:57:52.599 to get strange. The couple's three year old son, Caden, 997 00:57:52.960 --> 00:57:57.800 suddenly began animatedly talking to someone nearby. He was just 998 00:57:57.920 --> 00:57:59.920 in our four wheeler and he was pointing out to 999 00:58:00.039 --> 00:58:02.639 a certain spot in the meadow, said his mom Victoria. 1000 00:58:03.679 --> 00:58:07.519 The normally reserved and somewhat quiet Caden excitedly told his 1001 00:58:07.599 --> 00:58:09.880 parents that they're in the meadow. By where the family 1002 00:58:09.920 --> 00:58:12.880 was having lunch was a woman lying face down with 1003 00:58:12.960 --> 00:58:17.039 her legs straight up in the air. Furthermore, Caden stated 1004 00:58:17.039 --> 00:58:19.119 that the woman was unable to speak or move and 1005 00:58:19.239 --> 00:58:22.320 needed help. He began pleading with his parents to help 1006 00:58:22.360 --> 00:58:26.079 this poor a woman. He flat out told us, Mom, 1007 00:58:26.599 --> 00:58:30.400 she's already dead, but she needs our help. And that's 1008 00:58:30.440 --> 00:58:32.760 when I got the goose bumps. I was like, oh 1009 00:58:32.800 --> 00:58:37.199 my gosh, Victoria said. He goes, yeah, there's a lady 1010 00:58:37.239 --> 00:58:39.960 over in the meadow in a black shirt, blue jeans, 1011 00:58:40.000 --> 00:58:43.800 and blue hair, and I got goose bumps, said Victoria. 1012 00:58:44.880 --> 00:58:47.679 He says she needs our help, but she's dead and 1013 00:58:47.719 --> 00:58:50.639 she's lying face down with her legs up. She can't 1014 00:58:50.679 --> 00:58:53.079 talk to me, but she's over there. We need to 1015 00:58:53.079 --> 00:58:57.320 go help her. So, in order to calm young Caden down, 1016 00:58:57.800 --> 00:58:59.960 Jake and Victoria walked over and checked out the meadow 1017 00:59:00.159 --> 00:59:05.960 but saw absolutely nothing. Caden continued to insist. He kept saying, 1018 00:59:06.039 --> 00:59:08.880 trust me, trust me, Mom, And I was like, I 1019 00:59:08.960 --> 00:59:12.440 trust you, I trust you. I believe you one hundred percent, 1020 00:59:12.519 --> 00:59:17.480 said Victoria. Whatever young cat was experiencing so unnerved and 1021 00:59:17.519 --> 00:59:20.079 spoke the rest of the family that the other members 1022 00:59:20.079 --> 00:59:23.320 of the family all unanimously agreed time to put an 1023 00:59:23.320 --> 00:59:25.559 early end to their day of adventure and make the 1024 00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:30.119 thirty five mile drive back home to Course Call. After 1025 00:59:30.199 --> 00:59:33.679 arriving home, the event still fresh in her mind, Victoria 1026 00:59:33.719 --> 00:59:36.840 decided to post about the weird encounter on her Facebook profile. 1027 00:59:37.760 --> 00:59:39.920 We put it on Facebook to see if anybody knew 1028 00:59:39.920 --> 00:59:43.280 anything about this area, and come to find out there 1029 00:59:43.599 --> 00:59:46.159 was a lady missing with a description that he described 1030 00:59:46.199 --> 00:59:49.159 to us, within a five mile radius of where we were, 1031 00:59:49.239 --> 00:59:53.719 said Victoria. Now viewers of this channel know from our 1032 00:59:53.760 --> 00:59:56.719 previous episode number seven, Sandra Hughes had gone missing in 1033 00:59:56.760 --> 01:00:00.519 that area in June of twenty twenty. When it became 1034 01:00:00.559 --> 01:00:03.679 even more chilling when, according to Victoria, three year old 1035 01:00:03.719 --> 01:00:06.360 Caden's highly detailed description of the woman he had seen 1036 01:00:06.400 --> 01:00:09.360 in the meadow was identical to the description of Sandra 1037 01:00:09.440 --> 01:00:13.519 Hughes as given by the local authorities. He was very 1038 01:00:13.599 --> 01:00:16.440 adamant that we needed to help her, and he described 1039 01:00:16.440 --> 01:00:18.840 her down to blue hair. He said, she has a 1040 01:00:18.880 --> 01:00:21.119 black shirt, blue jeans, and blue hair. 1041 01:00:21.159 --> 01:00:21.400 Mom. 1042 01:00:22.199 --> 01:00:24.800 That's the exact description of her when she went missing, 1043 01:00:25.000 --> 01:00:29.400 said Victoria. Then Victoria went and searched online for Sandra 1044 01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:31.920 Hughes and found some photographs that have been released as 1045 01:00:31.920 --> 01:00:35.320 a part of the search effort a year prior. Victory 1046 01:00:35.360 --> 01:00:38.280 said she got goosebumps when Cayden readily recognized three of 1047 01:00:38.280 --> 01:00:41.000 the photos of Sandra, identifying her as the woman he 1048 01:00:41.039 --> 01:00:44.320 had seen in the field. As frait would have it, 1049 01:00:44.599 --> 01:00:47.679 Madera County Sheriff Corporal Chris Williams just happened to see 1050 01:00:47.679 --> 01:00:51.320 the Facebook post and found it intriguing, to say the least, 1051 01:00:52.199 --> 01:00:55.239 so much so that he contacted Cayden's family to further 1052 01:00:55.320 --> 01:01:00.440 investigate the chilling account. Victoria said the corporal in charge 1053 01:01:00.440 --> 01:01:02.800 of her case actually reached out to us on Facebook 1054 01:01:02.840 --> 01:01:05.719 and was like, Hey, we want more information and we 1055 01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:07.760 want to bring you guys back up there and see 1056 01:01:07.800 --> 01:01:10.400 if you could point us in the right direction. Corporal 1057 01:01:10.440 --> 01:01:13.880 Williams has been investigating the disappears of Sander Hughes since 1058 01:01:13.920 --> 01:01:18.840 the beginning of the investigation. On the following Thursday, two 1059 01:01:18.880 --> 01:01:21.639 Madera County Sheriff's deputies ventured back up to the meadow 1060 01:01:21.679 --> 01:01:24.840 to investigate, with Jake and Caden coming along to point 1061 01:01:24.840 --> 01:01:29.000 them in the right direction. Unfortunately, the deputies found nothing 1062 01:01:29.039 --> 01:01:31.920 new by way of evidence, although the case remains open. 1063 01:01:34.159 --> 01:01:36.880 If she was possibly a ghost looking for some help, 1064 01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:39.280 I hope that he could have at least helped and 1065 01:01:39.400 --> 01:01:41.840 maybe helped the family find her, because it's been a 1066 01:01:41.840 --> 01:01:46.239 long time apparently since she's been gone. Victoria said. The 1067 01:01:46.280 --> 01:01:48.960 four wheeler that Cayden and his family used while traveling 1068 01:01:48.960 --> 01:01:51.320 in the mountains has now been nicknamed the Ghost Runner, 1069 01:01:51.719 --> 01:01:55.360 and incidentally, is also for sale. It's not believed that 1070 01:01:55.400 --> 01:01:57.519 the spooky encounter is the reason they put the vehicle 1071 01:01:57.559 --> 01:01:59.760 up for sale, as the family says they will continue 1072 01:01:59.760 --> 01:02:02.480 to go adventuring in the Madeira Mountains, but do admit 1073 01:02:02.559 --> 01:02:05.000 there are a few spots now which they aren't anxious 1074 01:02:05.039 --> 01:02:09.519 to visit again anytime soon, if at all. Local news 1075 01:02:09.559 --> 01:02:11.800 reporters in the area reached out to the Madera County 1076 01:02:11.800 --> 01:02:14.800 Sheriff's office, who did confirm that they received a report 1077 01:02:15.079 --> 01:02:17.360 of a possible sighting of some sort and they did 1078 01:02:17.360 --> 01:02:19.360 go out to the location to search for any additional 1079 01:02:19.440 --> 01:02:23.719 leads information. For now, the case remains open in hopes 1080 01:02:23.760 --> 01:02:26.960 that this latest update regarding the spooking encounter may produce 1081 01:02:27.000 --> 01:02:27.760 some new leads. 1082 01:02:29.320 --> 01:02:29.559 Now. 1083 01:02:29.719 --> 01:02:32.719 As strange as this new development is, it's not the 1084 01:02:32.760 --> 01:02:36.079 first time that possibly a ghost helped solve the missing 1085 01:02:36.079 --> 01:02:40.719 person's case. Back on February twenty first, nineteen ninety seven, 1086 01:02:41.599 --> 01:02:45.320 the TV show Unsolved Mysteries air to segment regarding a 1087 01:02:45.320 --> 01:02:49.840 missing person's case from almost three years prior. This report 1088 01:02:49.920 --> 01:02:52.639 told the story of twenty three year old Christine Scoubage 1089 01:02:53.159 --> 01:02:55.960 and her three year old son Nick. They were driving 1090 01:02:56.000 --> 01:02:58.719 along Highway fifty in the Sierra Nevada Mountain Range in 1091 01:02:58.800 --> 01:03:02.199 California when they vanished without a trace on June sixth, 1092 01:03:02.440 --> 01:03:06.519 nineteen ninety four. Christine was a single mother and had 1093 01:03:06.519 --> 01:03:09.880 recently completed paralegal training. She had plans of going to 1094 01:03:09.920 --> 01:03:12.119 work for a prestigious law firm, and she helped to 1095 01:03:12.159 --> 01:03:14.239 make enough money so that she and her child's father 1096 01:03:14.320 --> 01:03:19.280 could be married. Christine left her stepparents home near Sacramento 1097 01:03:19.360 --> 01:03:22.119 on June fifth, nineteen ninety four, on her way to 1098 01:03:22.159 --> 01:03:26.320 Carson City, Nevada. After failing to make contact with her family. 1099 01:03:26.360 --> 01:03:30.840 After three days, her stepfather, Dave Stotsenbach, reported her and 1100 01:03:30.880 --> 01:03:33.800 her son missing on June eighth. The police took the 1101 01:03:33.840 --> 01:03:37.280 missing person's report, but there were no initial leads. 1102 01:03:37.000 --> 01:03:37.519 In the case. 1103 01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:43.159 Five days after Christine and Nick disappeared, however, a woman 1104 01:03:43.280 --> 01:03:45.760 named Deborah Hoyt and her husband were driving along the 1105 01:03:45.800 --> 01:03:47.679 Highway fifty around three am. 1106 01:03:48.480 --> 01:03:49.119 The pair were on. 1107 01:03:49.199 --> 01:03:51.760 Along overnight drive and had been joking and singing in 1108 01:03:51.840 --> 01:03:55.960 order to keep each other away. Suddenly never saw what 1109 01:03:56.039 --> 01:03:58.719 appeared to be a completely naked woman lying on the 1110 01:03:58.760 --> 01:04:02.079 side of the road. The naked woman's face was turned 1111 01:04:02.079 --> 01:04:04.079 toward the road and she was laying on her side 1112 01:04:04.159 --> 01:04:07.039 with her knees slightly bent. She had one arm placed 1113 01:04:07.039 --> 01:04:10.119 beneath her head and the other arm held over her head. 1114 01:04:10.760 --> 01:04:13.960 The Hoitz were shocked beyond belief. They thought it must 1115 01:04:14.000 --> 01:04:16.599 have been some sort of sick practical joke, or perhaps 1116 01:04:16.639 --> 01:04:20.159 he would employed to carjack them had they stopped. Deborah 1117 01:04:20.159 --> 01:04:23.719 floored the accelerator instead and sped down Highway fifty, not 1118 01:04:23.760 --> 01:04:26.679 stopping until she arrived at the nearest phone booth, where 1119 01:04:26.719 --> 01:04:28.159 she proceeded to call the police. 1120 01:04:29.880 --> 01:04:30.719 In just minutes. 1121 01:04:31.119 --> 01:04:33.280 Two Sharf's cards with the scene were deboren seeing the 1122 01:04:33.320 --> 01:04:37.639 naked woman's body, however, unable to pinpoint the exact location, 1123 01:04:37.920 --> 01:04:41.920 The deputies reported that they saw and found nothing. The 1124 01:04:41.960 --> 01:04:45.679 next morning, though speculations began that the sighting had something 1125 01:04:45.679 --> 01:04:47.960 to do with the disappearance of Christine and Nick, who 1126 01:04:48.039 --> 01:04:51.760 were the most recently missing people from that area. Due 1127 01:04:51.800 --> 01:04:55.960 to the insistence from the family, deputy Rich Strasser decided 1128 01:04:55.960 --> 01:04:58.920 to go back and have a closer look. Strasser figured 1129 01:04:58.960 --> 01:05:00.599 that it might be easier to spot got anything out 1130 01:05:00.599 --> 01:05:04.480 of the ordinary In the daylight, Debra had indicated that 1131 01:05:04.519 --> 01:05:07.920 a particularly dangerous stretch of Highway fifty, known as Bullyon Bend, 1132 01:05:08.400 --> 01:05:12.239 was where the incident took place. As Strasser patrolled the area, 1133 01:05:12.360 --> 01:05:15.199 he spotted a new looking child's tennis shoe on the side. 1134 01:05:15.000 --> 01:05:15.440 Of the road. 1135 01:05:16.599 --> 01:05:18.920 Immediately next to that spot and the shoulder of the 1136 01:05:19.000 --> 01:05:23.519 road was a steep embankment. Strasser pulled over his cruiser 1137 01:05:23.559 --> 01:05:26.400 to search the area more thoroughly, and sure enough, at 1138 01:05:26.440 --> 01:05:29.440 the bottom of the embankment he spotted the twisted remains 1139 01:05:29.440 --> 01:05:33.519 of Christine's car. He checked Christine and observed that she 1140 01:05:33.639 --> 01:05:36.280 was dead and unfortunately had been that way for quite 1141 01:05:36.280 --> 01:05:40.159 some time. The deputy then went around to the other 1142 01:05:40.239 --> 01:05:42.480 side to check Nick, who was curled up in a 1143 01:05:42.480 --> 01:05:46.960 fetal position in the passenger seat. Strasser assumed the worst 1144 01:05:46.960 --> 01:05:50.559 and was sure that Nick was also dead. However, when 1145 01:05:50.599 --> 01:05:52.719 he touched the little boy's neck to find a pulse, 1146 01:05:53.320 --> 01:05:57.400 it appeared that Nick took a breath. Strasser immediately radioed 1147 01:05:57.440 --> 01:06:00.239 for an ambulance. Little Nick had been alone in the 1148 01:06:00.280 --> 01:06:03.559 car for five days, yet he was somehow still clinging 1149 01:06:03.599 --> 01:06:08.480 to life. Officials believed that sometime around two am on 1150 01:06:08.599 --> 01:06:11.639 June sixth, Christine must have fallen asleep at the wheel. 1151 01:06:12.679 --> 01:06:14.480 The car veered off the road and plunged to the 1152 01:06:14.480 --> 01:06:17.920 bottom of the ditch, striking a tree. Due to the 1153 01:06:17.960 --> 01:06:21.920 embankment being so steep, other drivers drove right past the accident, 1154 01:06:22.039 --> 01:06:25.119 seen for days, unaware that it was just over the 1155 01:06:25.159 --> 01:06:28.840 side of the road. It was later determined that Christine 1156 01:06:28.880 --> 01:06:32.239 had been killed instantly on impact with a tree. Through 1157 01:06:32.280 --> 01:06:34.320 your old Nick was all along with no way out 1158 01:06:34.320 --> 01:06:37.880 and no one to talk to. Christine's mother says that 1159 01:06:37.920 --> 01:06:40.199 she believes that little Nick spent the time talking to 1160 01:06:40.239 --> 01:06:44.559 his mother, unaware that she was dead. Against all odds, 1161 01:06:44.719 --> 01:06:47.559 he survived five days of intense heat and four nights 1162 01:06:47.559 --> 01:06:50.639 of cold, trapped within the twisted remains of the car. 1163 01:06:51.599 --> 01:06:53.880 Doctors who examined nickt stated that he was in such 1164 01:06:53.920 --> 01:06:56.719 bad shape that he would have most likely die within 1165 01:06:56.760 --> 01:06:59.679 a couple of hours had he not been found when 1166 01:06:59.719 --> 01:07:04.320 he won. The strange encounter that saved Nick's life seems 1167 01:07:04.360 --> 01:07:08.039 to defy any rational explanation. If Debora had not seen 1168 01:07:08.079 --> 01:07:09.840 the naked woman lying on the side of the road, 1169 01:07:10.239 --> 01:07:14.840 Nick would have not survived. Now it's absolutely impossible for 1170 01:07:14.960 --> 01:07:17.480 Christine to have been the naked woman. She was still 1171 01:07:17.480 --> 01:07:20.199 fully clothed and wearing her seatbelt when found, and the 1172 01:07:20.239 --> 01:07:23.519 medical examiner stated that she was most likely killed on impact. 1173 01:07:24.599 --> 01:07:27.079 Deborah Hoyt is one hundred percent certain that she saw 1174 01:07:27.119 --> 01:07:29.960 a naked woman on the side of the road. Both 1175 01:07:30.039 --> 01:07:33.760 she and Christine's family believe it was Christine's spirit who 1176 01:07:33.800 --> 01:07:37.280 saved Nick that day. The spirit had apparently appeared in 1177 01:07:37.320 --> 01:07:41.559 the nude in order to draw attention. Nick years later, 1178 01:07:41.639 --> 01:07:46.039 as an adult, was interviewed on a television show Paranormal Witness. 1179 01:07:46.599 --> 01:07:49.840 He remembers seeing a bright light surrounding the car following 1180 01:07:49.880 --> 01:07:53.360 the accident. To this day, he believes that his mother 1181 01:07:53.519 --> 01:07:56.440 was watching over him following the accident and helped him 1182 01:07:56.480 --> 01:08:00.480 to be rescued. The show also revealed that Christine's aunt 1183 01:08:00.559 --> 01:08:04.440 had several dreams or premonitions about the accident before Christine 1184 01:08:04.440 --> 01:08:08.000 and Nick were even reported missing. She dreamed of seeing 1185 01:08:08.039 --> 01:08:11.000 them lying in their car in a ditch. She also 1186 01:08:11.039 --> 01:08:14.400 saw the number sixteen in the dream, which turned out 1187 01:08:14.480 --> 01:08:17.239 to be the number for the mile marker nearest the 1188 01:08:17.319 --> 01:08:21.960 accident's site. Well, there you have it. What do you 1189 01:08:22.000 --> 01:08:24.680 think about the apparition that Little Kayden observed, which she 1190 01:08:24.800 --> 01:08:27.840 identified as Sandra Hughes, even down to the color of 1191 01:08:27.840 --> 01:08:31.000 her hair, which was dyed blue when she went missing. 1192 01:08:32.159 --> 01:08:35.359 Is it possible that Sandra's spirit is attempting to communicate 1193 01:08:35.399 --> 01:08:38.359 with a living in a desire that remains be found 1194 01:08:38.399 --> 01:08:41.359 and her friend and loved ones have closure. It certainly 1195 01:08:41.359 --> 01:08:44.279 appears that way. And what about the two other times 1196 01:08:44.279 --> 01:08:46.640 she was spotted by High Christ. 1197 01:08:46.439 --> 01:08:49.560 Was that actually her or was that an apparition? 1198 01:08:55.439 --> 01:09:00.680 Hello friends, Today we'll be discussing three very strange wildernesses appearances. 1199 01:09:01.239 --> 01:09:04.319 Now too of these cases remain unsolved, and one of 1200 01:09:04.359 --> 01:09:07.520 these cases is a very remarkable story of a young 1201 01:09:07.560 --> 01:09:10.920 man who survived for over seventy days lost in a forest. 1202 01:09:11.720 --> 01:09:15.039 So sit back and relax. Have a listen. This is 1203 01:09:15.079 --> 01:09:20.079 going to be a wild one. First up, Stephen van Pelt, 1204 01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:25.560 the missing climber who vanished after he fell. Now, Mountain 1205 01:09:25.600 --> 01:09:29.119 Jefferson is the second tallest mountain in Oregon and the 1206 01:09:29.159 --> 01:09:32.119 only major volcanic center in the United States portion of 1207 01:09:32.159 --> 01:09:34.920 the Cascade Range that hasn't erupted in the past ten 1208 01:09:34.960 --> 01:09:39.279 thousand years. It stands at a majestic four hundred and 1209 01:09:39.359 --> 01:09:42.600 ninety five feet tall and is part of the Cascade Range. 1210 01:09:44.119 --> 01:09:49.439 According to climbing Officionados, the mountain summit pinnacle requires Class 1211 01:09:49.520 --> 01:09:53.680 four scrambling on very steep, usually ice encrusted rock. It 1212 01:09:53.800 --> 01:09:56.279 is considered by some to be the most difficult of 1213 01:09:56.319 --> 01:10:01.000 the higher volcanoes. It is indeed a mountain to climb, 1214 01:10:01.039 --> 01:10:04.760 and visitors are warned mountain to climb. Indeed, and visitors 1215 01:10:04.800 --> 01:10:07.319 are warned numerous times not to try and complete the 1216 01:10:07.319 --> 01:10:12.119 summit unless they are very experienced climbers. In this community, 1217 01:10:12.279 --> 01:10:15.479 we've seen many types of accidents happen and mysteries begin 1218 01:10:15.680 --> 01:10:19.960 in places like Mount Jefferson. Mother nature can be a 1219 01:10:20.000 --> 01:10:23.119 cruel mistress, and when there are no answers to seemingly 1220 01:10:23.159 --> 01:10:28.199 obvious questions, it can be downright frustrating. Such is the 1221 01:10:28.239 --> 01:10:32.359 mystery of what happened to Stephen van Pelt. If a 1222 01:10:32.399 --> 01:10:35.439 person falls off a mountain, it would make sense that 1223 01:10:35.479 --> 01:10:37.840 they would be found right at the bottom, somewhere near 1224 01:10:37.880 --> 01:10:41.560 at least from where they fell. Yes, that would make sense. 1225 01:10:42.439 --> 01:10:45.000 It would almost make too much sense for this community 1226 01:10:45.079 --> 01:10:47.640 that deals in mysteries just like this all the time. 1227 01:10:49.000 --> 01:10:51.720 Stephen van Pelt seems to have fallen off the mountain 1228 01:10:52.359 --> 01:10:55.880 and right off the face of the earth. Let's dealve 1229 01:10:55.880 --> 01:10:59.239 a little deeper into the mysterious fall and the equally 1230 01:10:59.359 --> 01:11:05.600 mysterious banishing of Stephen van Pelt. On Friday July twenty third, 1231 01:11:05.640 --> 01:11:08.760 twenty twenty one, at around eleven forty five in the morning, 1232 01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:11.880 a thirty three year old Salem, Moregon resident named Stephen 1233 01:11:11.960 --> 01:11:16.239 Van Pelt was descending Mount Jefferson when he suddenly fell 1234 01:11:16.279 --> 01:11:18.880 off the mountain and disappeared from the view of as 1235 01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:23.560 climbing partner. The Marion County Sheriff's Office received the initial 1236 01:11:23.600 --> 01:11:26.720 report and responded along with Lynn County deputies and the 1237 01:11:26.800 --> 01:11:31.359 Lynn County Search and Rescue Team. Officials reported that this 1238 01:11:31.439 --> 01:11:33.800 particular area of the mountain where Stephen had his fall 1239 01:11:33.960 --> 01:11:37.920 is extremely dangerous and would require technical mountaineers to travel 1240 01:11:37.960 --> 01:11:42.800 the mountainside in their search efforts. Initially, it was reported 1241 01:11:42.840 --> 01:11:45.479 that Stephen hadn't been found right away because of terrain, 1242 01:11:45.560 --> 01:11:51.640 which included snow and large boulders. There were also deep cliffs, crevices, rocks, 1243 01:11:51.680 --> 01:11:55.399 and scree now. For this example, screen is defined as 1244 01:11:55.399 --> 01:11:57.840 a mass of loose stones that form or cover a 1245 01:11:57.880 --> 01:12:02.640 slope of a mountain, so basically his recovery was going 1246 01:12:02.720 --> 01:12:06.359 to take some time. The deputies called in several other 1247 01:12:06.399 --> 01:12:08.600 agencies to assist him in the search for Stephen, and 1248 01:12:08.640 --> 01:12:14.399 these included Corvallis Mountain Rescue, Eugene Mountain Rescue, The Shoots 1249 01:12:14.439 --> 01:12:20.119 Mountain Rescue, and Portland Mountain Rescue. Stephen Van Pelt worked 1250 01:12:20.159 --> 01:12:23.520 at Salem's Morning Star Community Church as a program director. 1251 01:12:24.319 --> 01:12:25.319 After his fall from. 1252 01:12:25.199 --> 01:12:27.960 The mountain, his sister posted on social media that is 1253 01:12:28.079 --> 01:12:32.239 believed Stephen ended up in a ravine that is inaccessible. However, 1254 01:12:32.800 --> 01:12:35.520 it's also been stated that Stephen was not seen in 1255 01:12:35.720 --> 01:12:39.079 or around this ravine when it was looked over. The 1256 01:12:39.119 --> 01:12:41.880 search was eventually suspended and it was determined that Stephen 1257 01:12:41.880 --> 01:12:46.119 would not be able to be recovered. He was never found. 1258 01:12:46.840 --> 01:12:49.960 A statement written on behalf of his family said there 1259 01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:53.800 is no more appropriate tombstone for Steve than Mount Jefferson. 1260 01:12:56.000 --> 01:12:59.039 His wife, Caitlin, said that it's a huge comfort knowing 1261 01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:01.760 her husband had come to re in Mount Jefferson and 1262 01:13:01.840 --> 01:13:04.680 said he would have been thrilled to call this mountain 1263 01:13:04.720 --> 01:13:09.720 his headstone. Obviously, Stephen van Felt loved the mountains and 1264 01:13:09.760 --> 01:13:14.279 mountain climbing. His sister's social media post explains that he 1265 01:13:14.319 --> 01:13:17.680 and his climbing partner had an incredible day together and 1266 01:13:17.760 --> 01:13:20.600 Steve was on cloud nine after they summited the ten 1267 01:13:20.640 --> 01:13:24.039 thy four hundred and ninety five foot pinnacle of Mount Jefferson. 1268 01:13:26.000 --> 01:13:29.319 As they descended back down the mountain, Stephen's climbing partner 1269 01:13:29.359 --> 01:13:33.119 watched him slip and fall hundreds of feet from what 1270 01:13:33.279 --> 01:13:36.960 Stephen's climbing partner later said, we knew his end was immediate. 1271 01:13:38.319 --> 01:13:41.159 Caitlin also stated how her husband loved the outdoors and 1272 01:13:41.159 --> 01:13:44.159 how Mendocino County was a perfect place for an outdoorsman 1273 01:13:44.279 --> 01:13:48.800 like Stephen. Before the search was officially called off, Lynn 1274 01:13:48.840 --> 01:13:53.119 County Sheriff's Office, Lieutenant Brandon Fountain explained that the conditions 1275 01:13:53.119 --> 01:13:57.600 of the terrain was becoming a hazard to all the searchers. 1276 01:13:57.840 --> 01:14:01.359 Lieutenant Fountain continued that there is a specific drainage on 1277 01:14:01.439 --> 01:14:04.600 Mount Jefferson for searchers believe he may have come to rest. 1278 01:14:05.720 --> 01:14:09.279 First responders conducted a significant search of this drainage while 1279 01:14:09.359 --> 01:14:12.359 rock and mud from above fell on the rescuers who 1280 01:14:12.359 --> 01:14:17.239 were bound together by rope. Stephen's sister posted, my brother 1281 01:14:17.520 --> 01:14:20.479 is and always has been a part of this mountain. 1282 01:14:21.319 --> 01:14:24.199 He is and always has been a part of this 1283 01:14:24.319 --> 01:14:28.840 rugged landscape. He is and has always been a part 1284 01:14:28.880 --> 01:14:32.800 of this wilderness. Manicured grounds could never hold him. 1285 01:14:34.319 --> 01:14:34.560 Now. 1286 01:14:34.720 --> 01:14:37.800 The Minister here lies in the fact that despite all 1287 01:14:37.840 --> 01:14:42.039 of these agencies working tirelessly together and literally exhausting themselves 1288 01:14:42.039 --> 01:14:44.960 in their effort to find Stephen, he has never been found. 1289 01:14:45.880 --> 01:14:46.640 There were even. 1290 01:14:46.479 --> 01:14:50.319 Multiple flyoworks conducted by life Flight and the United States 1291 01:14:50.399 --> 01:14:53.479 Army National Guard also joined in during the subsequent days 1292 01:14:53.479 --> 01:14:58.119 of the search. Many people have begged the question, if 1293 01:14:58.119 --> 01:15:01.359 Stephen fell from a specific place on the mountain, and 1294 01:15:01.439 --> 01:15:04.119 someone watched him do it and pointed authorities to that 1295 01:15:04.159 --> 01:15:08.159 exact spot, then why wasn't Stephen there at the bottom? 1296 01:15:08.680 --> 01:15:13.279 Is he really there? These questions may never be answered, 1297 01:15:14.000 --> 01:15:16.800 and while we respect the authorities and families belief that 1298 01:15:17.000 --> 01:15:19.079 Steven has simply fallen into an area where it is 1299 01:15:19.119 --> 01:15:22.600 impossible for him to be recovered, we have to wonder 1300 01:15:23.079 --> 01:15:28.119 if he is actually there. As always, we hope someday 1301 01:15:28.199 --> 01:15:31.319 the family is able to know for sure that Stephen 1302 01:15:31.399 --> 01:15:34.079 is indeed resting at the bottom of his beloved mountain somewhere, 1303 01:15:34.560 --> 01:15:37.319 and our thoughts and prayers are with his family and 1304 01:15:37.359 --> 01:15:46.079 loved ones. Next up, Fola Marie Miranda Rosa. On December 1305 01:15:46.119 --> 01:15:49.760 thirty one, twenty one, the search for missing thirty one 1306 01:15:49.800 --> 01:15:53.640 year old Folo Marie Miranda Rosa resumed at Wikieva River 1307 01:15:53.840 --> 01:15:57.159 in Wikipa Springs Park, an area north of Orlando, Florida. 1308 01:15:57.840 --> 01:16:00.560 Sources say two hikers in the area took footage and 1309 01:16:00.600 --> 01:16:04.319 photos of the missing woman on December nineteenth, twenty twenty one, 1310 01:16:04.439 --> 01:16:07.359 which was the day after her family reported her missing. 1311 01:16:08.079 --> 01:16:11.960 Her family positively identified her in the footage. Un Named 1312 01:16:12.000 --> 01:16:14.560 hikers said they observed the woman swimming in the river 1313 01:16:14.920 --> 01:16:16.880 and took a couple of pictures because it was so 1314 01:16:17.199 --> 01:16:21.479 unusual to see someone swimming there. Miranda Rosa has been 1315 01:16:21.520 --> 01:16:25.239 missing since then. Her family had reported her missing the 1316 01:16:25.319 --> 01:16:28.520 day after they last saw her on Friday, December seventeenth, 1317 01:16:28.800 --> 01:16:31.560 twenty twenty one, a day spent visiting with family and 1318 01:16:31.600 --> 01:16:34.720 having lunch together. Folo was said to have been in 1319 01:16:34.720 --> 01:16:36.560 good spirits and nothing appeared. 1320 01:16:36.199 --> 01:16:38.960 To be wrong. No one heard from her after. 1321 01:16:38.800 --> 01:16:41.399 She left the family home that day, and she was 1322 01:16:41.399 --> 01:16:46.279 reported missing that Sunday. On Monday, her family made flyers 1323 01:16:46.279 --> 01:16:48.319 to put up around the parks and businesses in the 1324 01:16:48.359 --> 01:16:52.279 area surrounding it. She never used to go out and 1325 01:16:52.359 --> 01:16:55.399 leave her dogs alone at her house. She left with 1326 01:16:55.479 --> 01:16:58.439 the purpose of returning to her home. We do not 1327 01:16:58.680 --> 01:17:01.600 know what happened that she didn't return. She did not 1328 01:17:01.760 --> 01:17:05.600 go back to her home. Von Rose Folo's mother, Totelamundo 1329 01:17:05.680 --> 01:17:09.119 thirty one. In a phone interview, Miss Rosa went on 1330 01:17:09.159 --> 01:17:11.960 to say that her daughter's past mental health problems could 1331 01:17:11.960 --> 01:17:14.239 have been a part of her getting confused and becoming lost. 1332 01:17:15.399 --> 01:17:18.159 It remains unclear if it's a factor in her disappearance. 1333 01:17:19.399 --> 01:17:21.880 She also stated that her daughter may need help finding 1334 01:17:21.880 --> 01:17:25.840 her way back home. We immediately felt something was wrong. 1335 01:17:26.760 --> 01:17:32.159 It's just not normal, Miss Rosa continued in the Tilmundo interview. Now, 1336 01:17:32.279 --> 01:17:35.079 Folo has battles schizophrenia in the past and has been 1337 01:17:35.119 --> 01:17:39.239 diagnosed with bipolar disorder. Pile play isn't suspected at this time, 1338 01:17:39.359 --> 01:17:43.680 the Oceila County Sheriff's Department says. Prior to the official search, 1339 01:17:44.039 --> 01:17:47.000 the Sheriff's office released the statement saying they planned to 1340 01:17:47.039 --> 01:17:49.079 search four and a half miles of the river around 1341 01:17:49.079 --> 01:17:52.520 the area where Folo was last seen using special underwater 1342 01:17:52.560 --> 01:17:55.239 camera equipment that has the capability to see it hard 1343 01:17:55.239 --> 01:17:58.439 to reach areas that can't be explored by standard scuba 1344 01:17:58.479 --> 01:18:02.439 equipment on searching the wooded areas on both sides of 1345 01:18:02.479 --> 01:18:06.359 the river as well. Just days later, they began a 1346 01:18:06.359 --> 01:18:09.960 three day search. One hundred and fifty law enforcement officers 1347 01:18:09.960 --> 01:18:14.880 searched the park with scuba divers, boats, drones, volunteers, and bloodhounds. 1348 01:18:15.640 --> 01:18:18.840 They were even volunteers on horseback, which helped pace the search. 1349 01:18:19.800 --> 01:18:23.479 On December twenty first, twenty twenty one, Bullo's car was 1350 01:18:23.479 --> 01:18:26.399 found at the park along with her wallet, purse, phone, 1351 01:18:26.439 --> 01:18:29.159 and other personal items, and the keys were in the 1352 01:18:29.239 --> 01:18:34.319 unlocked car, which is yet another strange circumstance in Fulo's disappearance. 1353 01:18:36.520 --> 01:18:39.439 Her family spent the holiday season without Folo for the 1354 01:18:39.479 --> 01:18:43.560 first time ever. Her sister andrew At Miranda told Fox 1355 01:18:43.640 --> 01:18:46.520 Needs thirty five, it's hard to even focused on the 1356 01:18:46.520 --> 01:18:49.359 fact that it's the holiday season. I don't even know 1357 01:18:49.399 --> 01:18:52.800 what day it is right now. We see Christmas lights 1358 01:18:52.800 --> 01:18:56.039 all around us. We see that, but your tunnel vision 1359 01:18:56.159 --> 01:18:59.800 on the mission of finding her, of course, it hurts 1360 01:18:59.800 --> 01:19:02.600 this holiday. We want to have her with us, but 1361 01:19:02.640 --> 01:19:06.239 we have to do what we have to do. Bulla's 1362 01:19:06.239 --> 01:19:08.800 father also gave the media the interview in which she stated, 1363 01:19:09.039 --> 01:19:13.359 we love you. We are waiting for you. Everyone, family, 1364 01:19:13.520 --> 01:19:16.920 your friends, and people who don't even know you. We 1365 01:19:17.000 --> 01:19:20.159 are not giving up. We don't want anybody to give up. 1366 01:19:20.640 --> 01:19:23.359 We want you to know that Fola was extremely loved. 1367 01:19:23.720 --> 01:19:28.560 She loved us. Bulla is described as four foot ten 1368 01:19:28.600 --> 01:19:31.119 inches tall and weighs one hundred and forty five pounds. 1369 01:19:31.800 --> 01:19:35.079 She has brown eyes and reddish violet hair. She was 1370 01:19:35.119 --> 01:19:37.560 wearing blue jean shorts and a white green shirt at 1371 01:19:37.600 --> 01:19:42.039 the time she was last seen. Some people have suggested 1372 01:19:42.079 --> 01:19:45.319 that she may have been attacked by an alligator. State 1373 01:19:45.359 --> 01:19:49.199 Wildlife officials Glarida said attacks do happen, but are rare. 1374 01:19:50.079 --> 01:19:53.359 Six years prior to Fola's disappearance and in the same part, 1375 01:19:53.800 --> 01:19:57.359 a woman was attacked by an alligator but survived. Two 1376 01:19:57.359 --> 01:20:00.600 other men have also been attacked in earlier years survived 1377 01:20:00.600 --> 01:20:04.800 as well. It was also reported that Fola was being 1378 01:20:04.840 --> 01:20:08.359 pushed into a car, although this hasn't been verified and 1379 01:20:08.439 --> 01:20:11.439 the police haven't asked area businesses for video footage they 1380 01:20:11.479 --> 01:20:15.000 may have. The family is asking that any business in 1381 01:20:15.039 --> 01:20:17.119 that area with a camera to please turn over any 1382 01:20:17.119 --> 01:20:20.800 footage from that day. The police send Sheriff's Office of 1383 01:20:20.880 --> 01:20:24.079 asking anyone that may have information on Fola Marie Miranda 1384 01:20:24.159 --> 01:20:26.960 Rosa's disappearance or if you saw her after she was 1385 01:20:27.000 --> 01:20:30.079 reported missing, to please not be afraid to share the 1386 01:20:30.159 --> 01:20:33.239 information even if it's wrong, say it turns out to 1387 01:20:33.279 --> 01:20:36.399 be someone else. If you do have any information or 1388 01:20:36.439 --> 01:20:39.520 tips you asked to police, call the Ostiola County Sheriff's 1389 01:20:39.560 --> 01:20:43.760 Department at four zero seven three four eight two two 1390 01:20:43.800 --> 01:20:49.079 two and reference Fola Miranda Rosa. Her sister Andrew had 1391 01:20:49.119 --> 01:20:52.800 finished the interview with Fola, we love you and we 1392 01:20:52.920 --> 01:21:01.159 want you home. Next up, Kevin Bear Henry. On February seventh, 1393 01:21:01.199 --> 01:21:04.039 twenty twenty one, family and friends gathered a host of 1394 01:21:04.119 --> 01:21:06.399 vigil for their friend and loved one that went missing 1395 01:21:06.399 --> 01:21:09.680 in the wilands of a Canadian mountain. They solebrated the 1396 01:21:09.720 --> 01:21:13.960 amazing life accomplishments for their bear, believing they were gone forever, 1397 01:21:14.840 --> 01:21:18.039 lost for seventy four days in the Canadian wilderness, thirty 1398 01:21:18.079 --> 01:21:21.640 seven year old Kevin Bear Henry screams for help went unheard. 1399 01:21:22.640 --> 01:21:26.560 A two spirit indigenous person and environmental demonstrator Henry was 1400 01:21:26.640 --> 01:21:29.479 last seen by family members on November twenty seventh, twenty 1401 01:21:29.520 --> 01:21:32.720 twenty one, before embarking upon a journey into the wilds 1402 01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:37.159 of Fairy Creek, Vancouver Island, British Columbia. The weather took 1403 01:21:37.159 --> 01:21:40.239 a turn and it started to rain, further, making the 1404 01:21:40.279 --> 01:21:44.399 situation worse. It began to get dark. Henry, having thought 1405 01:21:44.399 --> 01:21:46.880 they had driven too far, tried to backtrack, but it 1406 01:21:46.920 --> 01:21:50.479 was too late. They weren't found until February ninth, twenty 1407 01:21:50.600 --> 01:21:54.560 twenty two. Driving their van through the beautiful and lush woods, 1408 01:21:54.720 --> 01:21:56.880 headed to an old growth area of the forest to 1409 01:21:56.920 --> 01:22:00.800 support a protest against Logginghindy was taking middle note of 1410 01:22:00.840 --> 01:22:03.960 how bad the road was getting. The ruts and potholes 1411 01:22:03.960 --> 01:22:05.920 were starting to take a toll on the old van. 1412 01:22:06.840 --> 01:22:09.520 As they proceeded down the dirt road, the van was 1413 01:22:09.560 --> 01:22:12.800 listing from side to side every few feet. The road 1414 01:22:12.840 --> 01:22:16.960 was becoming impassable until hitting one last big pothole caused 1415 01:22:16.960 --> 01:22:20.960 the van's engine to completely quit. Eventually, Henry was able 1416 01:22:20.960 --> 01:22:23.439 to get the engine started again and only a little 1417 01:22:23.439 --> 01:22:26.199 farther down the mountain road before becoming stuck in mud 1418 01:22:26.239 --> 01:22:29.960 because with a treacherous rain. Thankfully, They had a sleeper 1419 01:22:30.079 --> 01:22:33.479 van and had at least shelter, but only had provisions 1420 01:22:33.479 --> 01:22:35.520 for a few days because they had only planned on 1421 01:22:35.600 --> 01:22:38.960 being there for two to three days. Tired from the 1422 01:22:39.039 --> 01:22:41.920 day's events, Henry climbed in the sleeper and rested for 1423 01:22:41.960 --> 01:22:45.279 the night. Henry had been paralyzed for four years in 1424 01:22:45.359 --> 01:22:49.000 their twenties after being stabbed. This makes walking for any 1425 01:22:49.000 --> 01:22:52.359 substantial length almost impossible, and they were taught to stay 1426 01:22:52.399 --> 01:22:56.079 where they were should they become lost. The first few 1427 01:22:56.159 --> 01:22:58.560 days were spent with the van, where Henry had food 1428 01:22:58.560 --> 01:23:01.800 and shelter. Hadn't told anyone where they were going, but 1429 01:23:01.840 --> 01:23:06.880 cand hear helicopters overhead, presumably searching for them. No one 1430 01:23:06.920 --> 01:23:10.479 could hear me scream, Henry said. A massive search had 1431 01:23:10.520 --> 01:23:13.640 been launched for the Royal Canadian Mounted Police, community members, 1432 01:23:13.640 --> 01:23:16.960 search and rescue teams, and even TikTokers had joined together 1433 01:23:17.000 --> 01:23:20.239 in an effort to find the demonstrator. The family had 1434 01:23:20.279 --> 01:23:23.600 reported them missing until December eleventh, which was a full 1435 01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:26.159 two weeks after Henry had become stuck on that road. 1436 01:23:26.960 --> 01:23:29.800 They had also started a Facebook page dedicated to finding 1437 01:23:29.840 --> 01:23:33.880 Bear called Bring Kevin Bear Henry Home. The page name 1438 01:23:33.920 --> 01:23:38.079 has since been changed to bear has returned. Because of 1439 01:23:38.079 --> 01:23:40.920 the hostile environment that was created between demonstrators and the 1440 01:23:41.039 --> 01:23:44.159 RCMP over logging, there was a delay in the search. 1441 01:23:45.000 --> 01:23:48.800 Worsening weather conditions also hampered the search efforts. A few 1442 01:23:48.840 --> 01:23:50.319 times they were able to search. 1443 01:23:50.880 --> 01:23:51.359 There were a. 1444 01:23:51.319 --> 01:23:53.960 Few clues found that pointed to Henry being in the area, 1445 01:23:54.079 --> 01:23:57.079 but there was never anything found that succinctly pointed to 1446 01:23:57.079 --> 01:24:00.520 where they may be surviving on any thing they could 1447 01:24:00.520 --> 01:24:03.640 get their hands on. Their diet consists of tomatoes, dry 1448 01:24:03.720 --> 01:24:07.720 rice soaked in water, tomato sauce, and beans. Henry even 1449 01:24:07.720 --> 01:24:10.560 resorted to eating cat food at one point, and even snow. 1450 01:24:10.760 --> 01:24:14.600 In late December, as food supplies dwindled and days turned 1451 01:24:14.600 --> 01:24:17.640 into weeks, Henry decided they would have to walk to help. 1452 01:24:18.439 --> 01:24:20.880 Having walked for fifteen hours over a two day span 1453 01:24:20.960 --> 01:24:23.119 to the top of the road where the logging was happening, 1454 01:24:23.319 --> 01:24:26.000 they finally stumbled into two loggers getting ready to leave 1455 01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:30.199 the area. Loggers from Gemini followers saw Henry stumble onto 1456 01:24:30.239 --> 01:24:33.119 their location. They were supposed to be leaving earlier that 1457 01:24:33.199 --> 01:24:36.680 day and almost missed Henry standing in the area. We 1458 01:24:36.720 --> 01:24:38.840 thought you were a tree man. One of the loggers 1459 01:24:38.880 --> 01:24:42.439 told him, are you Bear? The other man asked, how 1460 01:24:42.479 --> 01:24:44.800 do you know who I am? Henry asked, They are 1461 01:24:44.880 --> 01:24:48.359 missing person posters of you everywhere in Lake Cawachan and Duncan. 1462 01:24:48.520 --> 01:24:51.880 The men said to Bear they didn't know what day 1463 01:24:51.960 --> 01:24:55.359 or even month it was. I've been missing for three months. 1464 01:24:55.479 --> 01:24:59.079 Henry said to his rescuers, where would you like to go? 1465 01:24:59.279 --> 01:25:01.239 The men asked hen Read where they could take them 1466 01:25:01.880 --> 01:25:05.039 Tim Hortons. Henry replied, wanting a hot cup of coffee 1467 01:25:05.039 --> 01:25:08.039 and some food. The loggers dropped Henry out of tim 1468 01:25:08.079 --> 01:25:11.159 Hortons in Lake koa Chan and gave them twenty dollars. 1469 01:25:12.039 --> 01:25:14.800 That kind of cares support to do that. That's humanity 1470 01:25:14.920 --> 01:25:17.359 right there, Henry said, of the men that rescued them. 1471 01:25:17.880 --> 01:25:21.479 Bear contacted a friend and family members straight away. The 1472 01:25:21.479 --> 01:25:24.079 family rushed to the tim Hortons to make contact with them. 1473 01:25:24.800 --> 01:25:28.239 Although a little skinnier Bear was in good spirits, Henry 1474 01:25:28.239 --> 01:25:30.159 would later be taken to an area hospital for an 1475 01:25:30.159 --> 01:25:34.039 exam to make sure there were no lasting effects. We 1476 01:25:34.159 --> 01:25:37.760 understand there are questions on how and where the individual survived. 1477 01:25:38.039 --> 01:25:42.199 A Royal Canadian Mounted Police spokesperson said, if those details 1478 01:25:42.199 --> 01:25:45.119 are released. It will have to come from Henry, as 1479 01:25:45.119 --> 01:25:48.239 the family has asked for privacy at this time. They're 1480 01:25:48.319 --> 01:25:51.720 just happy they're loved one return to them. There have 1481 01:25:51.720 --> 01:25:54.840 been several updates and videos posted by Bear since their ordeal, 1482 01:25:54.880 --> 01:25:58.720 addressing people's questions and telling their story. In one of 1483 01:25:58.720 --> 01:26:01.920 the videos, they are quoted saying I'm too stubborn to 1484 01:26:02.000 --> 01:26:04.720 die when asked by a family member that was thinking 1485 01:26:04.800 --> 01:26:09.600 the worst, not having any experience with outdoor survival. Henry 1486 01:26:09.680 --> 01:26:12.600 also said, I definitely learned a lot more about the 1487 01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:15.039 environment and how pressure it is to be back there, 1488 01:26:15.560 --> 01:26:18.000 to breathe that kind of fresh air, and to be 1489 01:26:18.039 --> 01:26:20.279 at the mercy of that kind of weather, and to 1490 01:26:20.279 --> 01:26:21.880 be at the mercy of the back country. 1491 01:26:22.439 --> 01:26:24.000 It teaches you a lot. 1492 01:26:29.600 --> 01:26:34.239 Hello, friends, Today we're gonna be talking about five wilderness 1493 01:26:34.239 --> 01:26:38.760 disappearances where mysterious disembodied christ for help were heard by 1494 01:26:38.760 --> 01:26:42.039 search and rescue teams, but the person couldn't be located. 1495 01:26:43.399 --> 01:26:45.920 You can imagine how these disembodied Christs were help would 1496 01:26:45.920 --> 01:26:48.600 have baffled search and rescue teams when they couldn't locate 1497 01:26:48.640 --> 01:26:49.640 the missing person who had. 1498 01:26:49.600 --> 01:26:50.600 Vanished in the wilderness. 1499 01:26:51.199 --> 01:26:54.760 Likewise, the person calling out would probably wonder why they 1500 01:26:54.800 --> 01:26:58.960 couldn't be heard. As we all know, thousands of people 1501 01:26:59.039 --> 01:27:01.520 go missing every single day in the United States alone, 1502 01:27:01.720 --> 01:27:03.880 and while some are found safe and sound and return 1503 01:27:03.960 --> 01:27:06.520 to their family and loved ones, many are never seen 1504 01:27:06.600 --> 01:27:11.560 or heard from again. How devastating that must be for 1505 01:27:11.720 --> 01:27:14.000 the people who remain in the dark about their loved one, 1506 01:27:14.600 --> 01:27:18.600 wondering always what if and what happened? Are they alive? 1507 01:27:18.840 --> 01:27:23.079 Are they deceased? But what about the people who went 1508 01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:25.439 missing and are known to have called out for help, 1509 01:27:25.880 --> 01:27:28.479 to have actually been heard screaming or yelling for someone 1510 01:27:28.520 --> 01:27:32.720 to rescue them, but were then never found. How does 1511 01:27:32.760 --> 01:27:36.479 something like that even happen? Surely you must be thinking 1512 01:27:36.479 --> 01:27:38.680 that if someone is close enough to be within aarshot 1513 01:27:38.720 --> 01:27:41.479 and heard calling for help, then search and rescue teams, 1514 01:27:41.560 --> 01:27:44.560 volunteer teams, or even just a random stranger wondering about 1515 01:27:44.640 --> 01:27:47.319 in the area heard them, then how is it at 1516 01:27:47.359 --> 01:27:50.119 all possible for that person to never be seen or 1517 01:27:50.159 --> 01:27:54.000 heard from again. Now, while we don't answer to that 1518 01:27:54.079 --> 01:27:57.479 specific question today, and we as a society may never 1519 01:27:57.600 --> 01:27:59.720 have all of or even part of the answers to 1520 01:27:59.720 --> 01:28:04.359 these questions, let's review some of these cases today, the 1521 01:28:04.359 --> 01:28:06.640 ones in which people were so very close to being 1522 01:28:06.720 --> 01:28:10.640 rescued or saved, but then that help never came. What 1523 01:28:10.720 --> 01:28:12.880 must that have felt like to the person who was lost, 1524 01:28:13.840 --> 01:28:16.079 crying out and then hearing people who you think are 1525 01:28:16.119 --> 01:28:18.760 coming to your aid for who knows how long, knowing 1526 01:28:18.800 --> 01:28:21.000 that you're being heard, and maybe even preparing to get 1527 01:28:21.039 --> 01:28:24.039 ready to get back home to your family, and then nothing. 1528 01:28:25.399 --> 01:28:29.039 Search and rescue teams or volunteers move on, possibly walking 1529 01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:31.600 right past you to go and continue the search for 1530 01:28:31.640 --> 01:28:34.600 you somewhere else. These are just a few of the 1531 01:28:34.640 --> 01:28:37.720 many cases we found in which people were actually heard 1532 01:28:37.760 --> 01:28:40.920 calling for help but then could not be located. They 1533 01:28:40.960 --> 01:28:45.079 were never seen or heard from again after that. Number 1534 01:28:45.119 --> 01:28:50.399 five Mitchell Dale Styling. On June nineteenth, twenty thirteen, Mitchell 1535 01:28:50.479 --> 01:28:53.399 Dale Stalling, known to most as Dale, his wife Denen, 1536 01:28:53.520 --> 01:28:57.279 and his parents went to Maseverity National Park in Colorado, USA. 1537 01:28:58.239 --> 01:29:00.279 The fifty one year old Dale decided to go for 1538 01:29:00.319 --> 01:29:03.079 a hike by himself to the Spruce Tree House Ruins. 1539 01:29:03.560 --> 01:29:06.399 The Spruce Treehouse Ruins as the third largest cliff dwelling 1540 01:29:06.439 --> 01:29:10.039 in Masa Verde and was actually constructed between twelve eleven 1541 01:29:10.119 --> 01:29:12.800 and twelve seventy eight, a d by the ancestors of 1542 01:29:12.880 --> 01:29:16.600 some of the Pueblo people of the Southwest. This amazing 1543 01:29:16.680 --> 01:29:19.720 dwelling contains about one hundred and thirty rooms and eight kivas, 1544 01:29:20.079 --> 01:29:22.600 which are chambers where the ceremonies of the Pueblo people 1545 01:29:22.600 --> 01:29:26.159 were held. This dwelling wasn't discovered until eighteen eighty eight, 1546 01:29:26.199 --> 01:29:28.239 when two ranchers were trying to find some cattle that 1547 01:29:28.279 --> 01:29:31.720 had gone astray and accidentally stumbled upon this beautiful piece 1548 01:29:31.720 --> 01:29:34.960 of history. Dale had decided he wanted to see it 1549 01:29:34.960 --> 01:29:37.880 for himself and took off at around four thirty pm 1550 01:29:38.000 --> 01:29:40.920 with every intention of returning as soon as he was done. 1551 01:29:41.039 --> 01:29:42.359 After all, the trail was. 1552 01:29:42.359 --> 01:29:44.600 Less than a quarter of a mile long, connecting to 1553 01:29:44.640 --> 01:29:46.880 the Petroglyffe Point Trail, which is a two and a 1554 01:29:46.920 --> 01:29:50.039 half mile loop with cliff exposure that takes off right 1555 01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:53.720 from the Spruce Tree Trail. Several witnesses came forward later 1556 01:29:53.800 --> 01:29:55.159 and remembered speaking. 1557 01:29:54.760 --> 01:29:57.239 With Dale on the trail that day, but yet he. 1558 01:29:57.279 --> 01:30:00.800 Never returned back to his family. It wasn't until seven 1559 01:30:00.880 --> 01:30:03.479 years later that his remains were found and returned to 1560 01:30:03.520 --> 01:30:06.840 his still hopeful and still searching family On September seventeenth, 1561 01:30:06.960 --> 01:30:08.119 twenty twenty. 1562 01:30:08.600 --> 01:30:09.960 But now let's talk. 1563 01:30:09.760 --> 01:30:14.159 About the mystery surrounding this horrible tragedy. Here's a little 1564 01:30:14.159 --> 01:30:16.760 more about what happened to Dale Stalling that fateful day. 1565 01:30:16.840 --> 01:30:20.520 Back in June of twenty thirteen, Dale and his family 1566 01:30:20.640 --> 01:30:23.439 left their home in Goliad, Texas, in a camper trailer 1567 01:30:23.560 --> 01:30:26.800 and headed west to Colorado, a place Dale had always 1568 01:30:26.880 --> 01:30:30.079 wanted to see an explore. He was an experienced outdoorsman 1569 01:30:30.119 --> 01:30:32.119 and loved to camp and hike, and was also a 1570 01:30:32.279 --> 01:30:35.239 very avid gardener. It was known to spend hours alone 1571 01:30:35.279 --> 01:30:38.439 at home, just spending time intending to as many plans. 1572 01:30:38.880 --> 01:30:42.000 He decided a day trip to Maseeverde National Park was 1573 01:30:42.039 --> 01:30:44.640 the perfect way not only for his family to spend 1574 01:30:44.720 --> 01:30:47.359 some quality time together, but also for him to make 1575 01:30:47.399 --> 01:30:49.880 his dream of seeing the sights in the beautiful Colorado 1576 01:30:50.039 --> 01:30:53.279 National Park a reality, and so they were on their way. 1577 01:30:54.239 --> 01:30:56.279 The trail was known to be a bit rough and rugged, 1578 01:30:56.359 --> 01:30:58.840 so initially the Stallings were only planning to drive to 1579 01:30:58.920 --> 01:31:01.760 the lookout point and experience with the breathtaking scenes from 1580 01:31:01.760 --> 01:31:05.239 a distance. Dale's parents were elderly, and it's reported that 1581 01:31:05.399 --> 01:31:08.119 his wife was overweight so nobody but Dale would have 1582 01:31:08.159 --> 01:31:10.960 been able to hike the trail very easily once they 1583 01:31:10.960 --> 01:31:13.800 got there. However, Dale, Beingdale, and having his great love 1584 01:31:13.800 --> 01:31:16.199 of nature and the outdoors, decided to seize the moment 1585 01:31:16.319 --> 01:31:18.840 and finally have the opportunity he had waited for for 1586 01:31:18.880 --> 01:31:22.239 so long to be there in Colorado in the Mesa Verdi. 1587 01:31:22.680 --> 01:31:24.920 He just had to get a closer look at the 1588 01:31:25.000 --> 01:31:29.520 spruce tree house ruins. Twenty two minutes before Dale took 1589 01:31:29.520 --> 01:31:32.119 off for his hike. The weather conditions were not that good. 1590 01:31:32.720 --> 01:31:35.920 The temperature was somewhere between nineteen one hundred degrees. The 1591 01:31:36.000 --> 01:31:38.359 train was in other worries. It was rugged, with steep 1592 01:31:38.439 --> 01:31:42.000 canyons and mesa tops. The elevation range from six thousand, 1593 01:31:42.079 --> 01:31:44.640 five hundred to eight thousand feet like to the top 1594 01:31:44.680 --> 01:31:47.319 of the trail, Dale estimated would take about an hour. 1595 01:31:48.159 --> 01:31:50.199 This was the average length of time for someone in 1596 01:31:50.199 --> 01:31:53.319 good health to have made it through. Dale was reported 1597 01:31:53.359 --> 01:31:55.800 missing very soon after he didn't return it. They agreed 1598 01:31:55.840 --> 01:31:58.560 upon time. His family didn't want to leave much room 1599 01:31:58.560 --> 01:32:00.880 for anything bad to have happened, got on to finding 1600 01:32:00.960 --> 01:32:04.239 him right away. The rangers first thought Dale had just 1601 01:32:04.279 --> 01:32:06.640 gotten probably a bit off track, and told his wife 1602 01:32:06.640 --> 01:32:08.479 to give him a few more hours. If he didn't 1603 01:32:08.479 --> 01:32:11.279 return by then, to go ahead then and report him missing. 1604 01:32:12.039 --> 01:32:15.159 According to a park public information officer, the park has 1605 01:32:15.159 --> 01:32:17.439 never had anyone go missing for more than a couple 1606 01:32:17.439 --> 01:32:20.680 of hours. Once it had indeed been two hours after 1607 01:32:20.720 --> 01:32:23.119 he was supposed to have been back. The park initiated 1608 01:32:23.119 --> 01:32:26.159 a two week long search and rescue operation, which included 1609 01:32:26.199 --> 01:32:30.760 around sixty searchers, two dog teams, helicopter surveillance, and rope 1610 01:32:30.760 --> 01:32:33.479 teams repelling off the cliffs in the Chapin Mesa area. 1611 01:32:34.760 --> 01:32:37.000 This is where the canine teams had initially shown some 1612 01:32:37.039 --> 01:32:38.960 interest in the first couple of days of the search, 1613 01:32:39.399 --> 01:32:42.439 so this is where they decided to begin. The Petrickgleft 1614 01:32:42.479 --> 01:32:45.000 Point trail follows a cliff base before descending to the 1615 01:32:45.039 --> 01:32:47.840 Mesa in a series of steep sections of switchbacks, which 1616 01:32:47.960 --> 01:32:50.640 then had some steps cut into the rock. Though he 1617 01:32:50.640 --> 01:32:53.000 didn't have any water with him on this extremely hot 1618 01:32:53.079 --> 01:32:55.960 day when he disappeared, Dale did have his cell phone, 1619 01:32:56.399 --> 01:32:59.119 but after he was determined to have disappeared, nobody could 1620 01:32:59.159 --> 01:33:01.359 get any kind of risk or an answer from him 1621 01:33:01.399 --> 01:33:04.520 when they tried to reach out. Blone records did show 1622 01:33:04.560 --> 01:33:07.079 him trying to access his voicemail at around seven pm 1623 01:33:07.199 --> 01:33:09.760 that night, or at least the phone was trying to 1624 01:33:09.760 --> 01:33:12.560 access the voicemail. We in this community should make no 1625 01:33:12.600 --> 01:33:14.920 assumptions that it was Dale at all who tried to 1626 01:33:14.920 --> 01:33:17.520 do this. For the sake of fact, though, let's move 1627 01:33:17.560 --> 01:33:20.199 on and say it was him. It was for nothing, though, 1628 01:33:20.199 --> 01:33:23.359 as a call dropped and never went through. According to 1629 01:33:23.399 --> 01:33:27.399 Patrick O'Driscoll of National Parks Media Services, the Inner Mountain Region, 1630 01:33:27.560 --> 01:33:30.239 the majority of Masaveriti, aside from a few mark trails, 1631 01:33:30.319 --> 01:33:34.520 is uncharted territory and therefore technically off limits the hikers. 1632 01:33:35.199 --> 01:33:37.760 Approximately five to ten people go missing every year in 1633 01:33:37.840 --> 01:33:40.800 the Masaveriti National Park, and none of these cases are 1634 01:33:40.800 --> 01:33:44.680 officially closed, including Dale's, until that person or their body 1635 01:33:44.760 --> 01:33:48.399 is found. Authorities have shared everything from actual case files 1636 01:33:48.439 --> 01:33:51.199 to random tips with the family, but Dale's wife Denian 1637 01:33:51.319 --> 01:33:55.279 these things much differently than park officials do. She says 1638 01:33:55.319 --> 01:33:57.960 she has pissed off. It feels the search only really 1639 01:33:58.039 --> 01:34:00.880 lasted for two days and then Dale just given up on. 1640 01:34:01.600 --> 01:34:04.720 She stated, now that it's been a year, and honestly, 1641 01:34:04.800 --> 01:34:07.199 the more I reflect on it, I'm just pissed off. 1642 01:34:07.880 --> 01:34:10.720 Their attitude was he was there, he was lost, and 1643 01:34:10.840 --> 01:34:14.479 what are they supposed to do about it? Artificials say, however, 1644 01:34:14.600 --> 01:34:17.119 that rangers in the park were still searching for Dale 1645 01:34:17.159 --> 01:34:20.039 three months later, though it a bit more scaled back way. 1646 01:34:20.479 --> 01:34:22.399 They insist they did this to keep Dale and his 1647 01:34:22.439 --> 01:34:25.560 disappearance on their radar so everyone would continue. 1648 01:34:25.159 --> 01:34:26.399 To be on the lookout for him. 1649 01:34:27.359 --> 01:34:30.399 In twenty fourteen, Deneen returned at least fourteen times to 1650 01:34:30.479 --> 01:34:32.960 the park, and it's more convinced than ever that her 1651 01:34:33.039 --> 01:34:35.920 husband had gone missing due to misleading markers and signs 1652 01:34:35.920 --> 01:34:38.720 in the park, which caused him to accidentally go off trail. 1653 01:34:39.479 --> 01:34:42.039 She believes he thought he was following all the signs properly, 1654 01:34:42.319 --> 01:34:44.800 but because they were so confusing, he ended up lost. 1655 01:34:44.800 --> 01:34:46.760 Anyway. There is a. 1656 01:34:46.800 --> 01:34:50.560 Very interesting account written by hiker and writer named Jody Peterson, however, 1657 01:34:50.960 --> 01:34:54.279 that was written in twenty thirteen, which details and experiences 1658 01:34:54.319 --> 01:34:57.439 she had while hiking the same trail on the same 1659 01:34:57.520 --> 01:35:01.039 day as Dale when he went missing. She writes, in part, 1660 01:35:01.600 --> 01:35:04.319 after an hour of walking, I suddenly heard a weary 1661 01:35:04.359 --> 01:35:07.560 male voice call I need some help. I thought of 1662 01:35:07.600 --> 01:35:12.119 the missing hiker, perhaps after visiting Spruce treehouse heat attempted 1663 01:35:12.159 --> 01:35:15.680 the trail and run into trouble. I called out several times, 1664 01:35:15.720 --> 01:35:18.800 but got no response. I thought about going off trail 1665 01:35:18.880 --> 01:35:21.279 to look, but figured then I'd become a victim number 1666 01:35:21.319 --> 01:35:24.159 two if I tried to scramble down those ledges and cliffs. 1667 01:35:24.680 --> 01:35:28.039 My cell phone had no signal. I hiked back down 1668 01:35:28.039 --> 01:35:29.920 the trail as fast as I could, and when I 1669 01:35:29.920 --> 01:35:32.000 found the chief ranger, I told him what I'd heard. 1670 01:35:32.920 --> 01:35:36.119 Relief washed over his face as another staffer said, we 1671 01:35:36.199 --> 01:35:38.680 thought we heard a call for help in that area yesterday. 1672 01:35:39.640 --> 01:35:42.560 They quickly began planning to bring in dogs and more searchers. 1673 01:35:43.000 --> 01:35:45.119 I left the ranger station and stood looking at the 1674 01:35:45.159 --> 01:35:47.199 opposite side of the canyon where I'd heard the call 1675 01:35:47.279 --> 01:35:50.239 for help. I said a silent prayer. When I got 1676 01:35:50.239 --> 01:35:53.119 back to my Western Colorado home. The following day, I 1677 01:35:53.239 --> 01:35:55.760 checked the news, thinking that i'd read that the hiker 1678 01:35:55.800 --> 01:35:59.920 had been found. Instead, I learned that Mitchell Dale Stalling 1679 01:36:00.439 --> 01:36:04.319 was still missing, and now seventy people were looking for him. 1680 01:36:04.840 --> 01:36:07.359 As I write this, it's been almost two weeks since 1681 01:36:07.359 --> 01:36:11.000 Stalin vanished, and the search has been scaled down. A 1682 01:36:11.000 --> 01:36:13.079 group of us think he's still somewhere in the park, 1683 01:36:13.159 --> 01:36:18.000 said Chief Ranger Jesse Farias. We've all heard of planning disappearances, 1684 01:36:18.199 --> 01:36:20.840 but it doesn't smell that way. The odds of him 1685 01:36:20.840 --> 01:36:24.800 being found alive, though, are basically zero. Perhaps he fell 1686 01:36:24.840 --> 01:36:27.479 between big rocks and a place where searchers can't see him. 1687 01:36:27.960 --> 01:36:34.239 Perhaps wind shifts made the dog missus scent. Now the question, though, 1688 01:36:34.359 --> 01:36:37.279 is this, If Dale was heard calling for help by 1689 01:36:37.319 --> 01:36:40.760 several different people, and searchers were immediately put into place 1690 01:36:40.800 --> 01:36:43.600 and conducted as soon as this was reported, then how 1691 01:36:43.720 --> 01:36:46.840 did no one come across him again, even hear him again, 1692 01:36:47.359 --> 01:36:50.680 or find any evidence of him at all. If they 1693 01:36:50.680 --> 01:36:52.319 thought they heard a call for help in the same 1694 01:36:52.359 --> 01:36:55.079 area just the day before, then why weren't they still 1695 01:36:55.079 --> 01:36:59.600 out searching there? That makes no sense. What really happened 1696 01:36:59.600 --> 01:36:59.920 out there? 1697 01:37:00.359 --> 01:37:00.800 Verde? 1698 01:37:01.399 --> 01:37:03.560 Is the park rangers and other staff of this national 1699 01:37:03.560 --> 01:37:06.760 park no more than they're saying this is something to 1700 01:37:06.800 --> 01:37:10.479 think about, definitely most likely something we will never find 1701 01:37:10.520 --> 01:37:18.439 an answer to. Number four Dayleen mok Poua. On February 1702 01:37:18.439 --> 01:37:22.720 twenty seventh, twenty fifteen, a seventeen year old named Dayleen Pua, 1703 01:37:22.800 --> 01:37:26.159 known as Moke to his family and friends decided to 1704 01:37:26.199 --> 01:37:28.880 go for a hike on the Stairway to Heaven. This 1705 01:37:29.000 --> 01:37:32.920 is actually the Haiku Stairs in Oahu, Hawaii. These stairs 1706 01:37:33.000 --> 01:37:36.279 are basically an extremely steep step structure which used to 1707 01:37:36.279 --> 01:37:40.279 provide pedestrian access to former US Navy communication facilities on 1708 01:37:40.319 --> 01:37:44.039 the island. This is considered one of Hawaii's most dangerous trails, 1709 01:37:44.359 --> 01:37:47.239 and Moch was last seen boarding of us in Wayaani 1710 01:37:47.439 --> 01:37:49.520 to get to the spot which he wanted so badly 1711 01:37:49.600 --> 01:37:53.039 to climb and see the historical sites. Dayleen, who lived 1712 01:37:53.039 --> 01:37:56.000 on the Big Island, was visiting Wayaani to spend some 1713 01:37:56.039 --> 01:38:01.760 time with his grandmother. His grandmother, Martha Behar, stated that 1714 01:38:01.800 --> 01:38:04.600 the teen wanted desperately to climb the trail, which is 1715 01:38:04.640 --> 01:38:07.920 forbidden on the windward side of O Wahoo. She told 1716 01:38:07.920 --> 01:38:09.800 her grandson she had seen all the news that it 1717 01:38:09.880 --> 01:38:12.199 was closed down and he wouldn't be able to access it. 1718 01:38:13.039 --> 01:38:15.079 She told him not to waste his time even trying. 1719 01:38:15.960 --> 01:38:18.399 Martha said, though, that when Dayleen boarded the bus and 1720 01:38:18.439 --> 01:38:20.840 said he was going hiking, she never thought he was 1721 01:38:20.840 --> 01:38:24.520 really going there to the Stairway to Heaven trail. She 1722 01:38:24.640 --> 01:38:26.439 figured she had already told him that he would get 1723 01:38:26.479 --> 01:38:28.479 arrested if he tried to go there and climb, and 1724 01:38:28.600 --> 01:38:31.600 that it was closed down and pedestrian access was being refused. 1725 01:38:32.399 --> 01:38:36.039 At around eleven am, Dayleen posted his last ever correspondence 1726 01:38:36.079 --> 01:38:39.279 when he texted some friends pictures of himself, stating that 1727 01:38:39.319 --> 01:38:41.600 he was finally there on the trail of the Haiku 1728 01:38:41.640 --> 01:38:44.720 stairs and was next planning to climb them. He has 1729 01:38:44.840 --> 01:38:48.920 been seen or heard from since. His family studied the 1730 01:38:48.920 --> 01:38:51.239 pictures daily had sent them from the trail right before 1731 01:38:51.239 --> 01:38:54.800 he seemingly disappeared into thin air extensively, and there are 1732 01:38:54.840 --> 01:38:57.800 some that stand out. These are the ones there desperately 1733 01:38:57.840 --> 01:39:01.840 trying to get the public's help in identifying. Unfortunately, the 1734 01:39:01.840 --> 01:39:03.560 more you blow up the images of the more glory 1735 01:39:03.640 --> 01:39:07.399 and nondiscernible, they become almost impossible to tell what you're 1736 01:39:07.399 --> 01:39:10.399 even looking at, though the family is fairly confident at 1737 01:39:10.479 --> 01:39:13.399 least one of them is Dayleen. They believed they saw 1738 01:39:13.439 --> 01:39:15.960 a man in the background, far off in the distance 1739 01:39:16.000 --> 01:39:17.960 of at least to one of the other pictures, and 1740 01:39:18.039 --> 01:39:20.600 theorized that this man was for some reason following Daylan 1741 01:39:20.680 --> 01:39:24.079 and could have somehow led to his disappearance and possible demise. 1742 01:39:25.359 --> 01:39:29.479 Search effort included local fire departments, drone operators, community volunteers, 1743 01:39:29.560 --> 01:39:32.279 and even the U. S. Navy conducting a land and 1744 01:39:32.319 --> 01:39:35.039 air search to find the young man, all to no avail. 1745 01:39:36.279 --> 01:39:38.399 A few days after he was last heard from and 1746 01:39:38.439 --> 01:39:43.039 reported as missing, Monday, March second, two hikers reported hearing 1747 01:39:43.079 --> 01:39:46.560 christ for help. This information led the fire department to 1748 01:39:46.560 --> 01:39:51.039 continue their search into Tuesday, March third, twenty fifteen. That 1749 01:39:51.119 --> 01:39:55.079 particular search was suspended the same afternoon, but local volunteers 1750 01:39:55.079 --> 01:39:59.079 continued to look for Daylane, combing through the mountains but finding. 1751 01:39:58.800 --> 01:40:00.479 No sign of him. 1752 01:40:00.680 --> 01:40:03.119 The Hikustairs have been closed to the public since nineteen 1753 01:40:03.159 --> 01:40:05.880 eighty seven, but are still a very popular hike, with 1754 01:40:05.960 --> 01:40:09.000 locals and tourists like willing to risk fines or arrest. 1755 01:40:11.000 --> 01:40:13.359 The stairs are in bad shape after heavy rains and 1756 01:40:13.399 --> 01:40:15.800 powerful storms have damaged them, to the point that they've 1757 01:40:15.800 --> 01:40:19.479 gained a somewhat ominous reputation for being not only treacherous, 1758 01:40:19.720 --> 01:40:23.159 but possibly deadly as well. Some people believe they should 1759 01:40:23.199 --> 01:40:26.079 be fixed, restored, and reopened to the public, while others 1760 01:40:26.119 --> 01:40:29.640 say they should be torn down altogether. The fate of 1761 01:40:29.720 --> 01:40:34.119 Daileen moulk Hua is still unknown to this day, as 1762 01:40:34.239 --> 01:40:37.319 is why he wasn't found despite hikers very clearly hearing 1763 01:40:37.359 --> 01:40:41.359 him calling for help. Was this actually Daileen Poola crying 1764 01:40:41.399 --> 01:40:44.680 out for help again? We will most likely never know. 1765 01:40:49.399 --> 01:40:54.119 Number three Philip Krazik, yet another unfortunate soul who decided 1766 01:40:54.159 --> 01:40:56.159 to go out for what seemed like a pleasant and 1767 01:40:56.199 --> 01:40:59.079 scenic hike and ended up not ever being seen or 1768 01:40:59.079 --> 01:41:02.239 heard from again, even after being heard screaming or yelling 1769 01:41:02.279 --> 01:41:06.319 for help. His thirty year old Philip Krasik from Berkeley, California. 1770 01:41:06.600 --> 01:41:08.520 Philip told his wife he was headed out for a 1771 01:41:08.600 --> 01:41:11.119 run in the hills near the madel Ranch staging area 1772 01:41:11.399 --> 01:41:15.479 in Pleasanton Ridge Regional Park, California. He called her once 1773 01:41:15.560 --> 01:41:17.039 he reached the trail to in formed her that it 1774 01:41:17.039 --> 01:41:18.920 would take him about an hour and to let her 1775 01:41:18.920 --> 01:41:21.720 know when she'd expect him back that day. He was 1776 01:41:21.800 --> 01:41:24.239 last seen running at around ten forty five am That 1777 01:41:24.359 --> 01:41:28.239 same morning. Philip's wife reported him missing the same afternoon. 1778 01:41:28.239 --> 01:41:30.319 He had headed out for the run when he failed 1779 01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:32.800 to return home and hadn't been in contact with her 1780 01:41:33.119 --> 01:41:34.279 or anyone else. 1781 01:41:34.199 --> 01:41:36.960 To let them know why I wasn't back yet. This 1782 01:41:37.199 --> 01:41:39.760 was very unlike him by all accounts. 1783 01:41:40.439 --> 01:41:43.479 Investigators in Pleasanton stated that they had never come across 1784 01:41:43.560 --> 01:41:46.319 such a as our case. Either he got hurt and 1785 01:41:46.399 --> 01:41:49.079 was only able to call out, or he planned all 1786 01:41:49.119 --> 01:41:52.560 of this and purposely disappeared, leaving his wife and his 1787 01:41:52.680 --> 01:41:56.680 life behind and never looking back. This left his family 1788 01:41:56.720 --> 01:42:00.600 and friends to wonder forever what happened to him and why. 1789 01:42:01.359 --> 01:42:03.960 According to his family, the latter isn't even an option, 1790 01:42:04.119 --> 01:42:06.600 as Philip just wasn't that type of man and loved 1791 01:42:06.600 --> 01:42:10.840 his life and his family. Philip was supposed to meet 1792 01:42:10.840 --> 01:42:13.800 with his wife to attend a family gather against Stockton, California. 1793 01:42:14.079 --> 01:42:16.560 When he didn't show up at the appointed time, his 1794 01:42:16.600 --> 01:42:18.880 wife immediately knew something was wrong and. 1795 01:42:18.800 --> 01:42:19.680 Called the authorities. 1796 01:42:20.439 --> 01:42:22.560 Philps said to have lift his shirt and cell phone 1797 01:42:22.560 --> 01:42:24.760 in his vehicle, and although he was running with a 1798 01:42:24.760 --> 01:42:29.840 smart watch, it was unfortunately not equipped with GPS. With 1799 01:42:29.960 --> 01:42:33.359 temperatures rising above one hundred degrees fahrenheit that day in Pleasanton, 1800 01:42:33.680 --> 01:42:36.039 many were led to immediately and began to speculate that 1801 01:42:36.079 --> 01:42:39.840 the heat had somehow incapacitated Philip on that day, July tenth, 1802 01:42:40.039 --> 01:42:43.760 twenty twenty one. Now this didn't make much sense. His 1803 01:42:43.760 --> 01:42:46.359 family and loved ones though, as Philip was a marathon 1804 01:42:46.439 --> 01:42:49.159 runner and was well adjusted to running under such extreme 1805 01:42:49.199 --> 01:42:54.439 conditions as blaring heat, which might incapacitate most people, his 1806 01:42:54.520 --> 01:42:57.520 cell phone showed that his route was planned out entirely 1807 01:42:57.560 --> 01:42:59.880 along very well maintained in manicured trails. 1808 01:43:00.600 --> 01:43:02.239 Though the park was packed with people that. 1809 01:43:02.199 --> 01:43:05.199 Day, not a single credible sighting of Philip has ever 1810 01:43:05.239 --> 01:43:09.479 been reported. Sergeant Aaron Fountain of the Pleaston Police Department, 1811 01:43:09.479 --> 01:43:12.840 who's handling the investigation, said, I can't even speculate on 1812 01:43:12.880 --> 01:43:18.520 this one. It's very very odd. Now continue. Philip Krasik 1813 01:43:18.640 --> 01:43:21.000 was a family man with two small children, and also 1814 01:43:21.159 --> 01:43:24.399 a graduate of the prestigious Harvard University in Boston, Massachusetts. 1815 01:43:25.000 --> 01:43:27.000 He was also listed as a third year student in 1816 01:43:27.119 --> 01:43:31.399 MIT's Urban Mobility Lab. Philip went missing on a Saturday, 1817 01:43:31.920 --> 01:43:34.199 and the following Wednesday, a family hiking in the area 1818 01:43:34.239 --> 01:43:38.439 reported hearing cries in a canyon near the Sunholt Post office. 1819 01:43:38.479 --> 01:43:41.199 After receiving this tip, two people who were involved in 1820 01:43:41.239 --> 01:43:43.199 the search went out to the area and heard for 1821 01:43:43.239 --> 01:43:47.760 themselves a man screaming for help near the canyon. Experienced 1822 01:43:47.800 --> 01:43:49.760 hikers in the search and rescue efforts set out to 1823 01:43:49.800 --> 01:43:51.880 go and see if they could hear the cause and 1824 01:43:51.960 --> 01:43:54.800 perhaps follow them to try and find Philip, who they 1825 01:43:54.800 --> 01:43:58.600 presumed it was, and bring him safely back to his family. However, 1826 01:43:59.039 --> 01:44:01.239 once arriving at the fot where the Christs for help 1827 01:44:01.279 --> 01:44:04.159 were allegedly heard by multiple people at this point, they 1828 01:44:04.239 --> 01:44:08.520 heard nothing and weren't able to locate Philip either. That 1829 01:44:08.560 --> 01:44:11.680 same night, the search efforts were officially called off, and 1830 01:44:11.720 --> 01:44:14.479 Philip hasn't been found as of this video being made 1831 01:44:14.640 --> 01:44:18.119 almost a month later. Theories run wild as to what 1832 01:44:18.199 --> 01:44:22.399 happened to Philip, crazy from demented and murderous drug dealers, 1833 01:44:22.479 --> 01:44:25.840 taking him hostage to large felines, somehow carrying him up 1834 01:44:25.880 --> 01:44:28.760 trees and feasting to him, just walking off and abandoning 1835 01:44:28.880 --> 01:44:32.760 his life which she was said to love so much. However, 1836 01:44:33.119 --> 01:44:36.119 that's just what these are theories, as there hasn't been 1837 01:44:36.159 --> 01:44:39.640 any evidence as to if this was definitely Philip who 1838 01:44:39.720 --> 01:44:43.439 was heard crying from the canyon for help that fateful day. Again, 1839 01:44:43.880 --> 01:44:46.159 why didn't the first two experienced hikers who were sent 1840 01:44:46.199 --> 01:44:48.119 out and did claim to have heard at least someone 1841 01:44:48.159 --> 01:44:51.279 crying for help never find him? This is another case 1842 01:44:51.279 --> 01:44:54.399 as completely and totally baffling and runs along the exact 1843 01:44:54.520 --> 01:44:57.199 vein as the previous to and the cases to follow. 1844 01:44:58.680 --> 01:45:00.880 We'll never know. Surely, if he. 1845 01:45:00.840 --> 01:45:03.039 Was attacked and eaten by wild animals, there would have 1846 01:45:03.039 --> 01:45:05.439 been some sort of trail for either the animal searchers 1847 01:45:05.560 --> 01:45:08.000 or even the human ones to find and follow, at 1848 01:45:08.039 --> 01:45:11.920 least leading to some sort of explanation signs of a struggle, blood, 1849 01:45:11.960 --> 01:45:15.159 torn clothing, etc. We'll just have to wait and see 1850 01:45:15.199 --> 01:45:17.920 on this one. 1851 01:45:18.159 --> 01:45:19.279 Do have an update here. 1852 01:45:19.560 --> 01:45:22.680 While this video was in editing, Philip was found as ceased. 1853 01:45:23.359 --> 01:45:25.720 We'll create a new case update video very soon to 1854 01:45:25.720 --> 01:45:28.880 discuss this with you. Philip, Rest in peace. 1855 01:45:28.640 --> 01:45:33.720 My friend number two. 1856 01:45:34.560 --> 01:45:39.399 Linda Artaga. On September twenty second, twenty twelve, fifty three 1857 01:45:39.439 --> 01:45:42.439 year old Linda Artega left her home in Blackwell, Oklahoma, 1858 01:45:42.960 --> 01:45:45.119 and headed out to the woods in the Arkansas oz 1859 01:45:45.239 --> 01:45:48.520 Arts near Saint Joe. Linda was with her brother and 1860 01:45:48.560 --> 01:45:51.800 they were visiting with her sister when, somewhat ironically, her 1861 01:45:51.840 --> 01:45:54.239 brother offered to take her into the woods and teach 1862 01:45:54.239 --> 01:45:58.239 her some survival skills. She somehow became separated from him 1863 01:45:58.279 --> 01:46:00.239 and ended up lost in the woods for five day. 1864 01:46:01.000 --> 01:46:03.560 The story she told of her experience is strange, to 1865 01:46:03.600 --> 01:46:07.000 say the least. However, in this community, if you clicked 1866 01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:09.239 on this video or you're aware of all the strange 1867 01:46:09.239 --> 01:46:12.039 things happening in the woods, besides all the bizarre deaths 1868 01:46:12.079 --> 01:46:14.560 and disappearances, and if you've been paying attention at all 1869 01:46:14.640 --> 01:46:17.199 and can clearly see something is wrong with not only 1870 01:46:17.239 --> 01:46:19.760 the things mentioned above, but also with the reports and 1871 01:46:19.840 --> 01:46:22.279 stories of encounters and experiences have by the people who 1872 01:46:22.279 --> 01:46:24.960 were lost for however long and whatever part of the 1873 01:46:25.000 --> 01:46:27.319 seven hundred million acres of forest and woodlands in the 1874 01:46:27.399 --> 01:46:31.479 United States alone, then you'll understand why it was absolutely 1875 01:46:31.520 --> 01:46:34.800 necessary that we tell Linda's story here now. As soon 1876 01:46:34.800 --> 01:46:37.720 as she was reported missing, search was mounted in almost 1877 01:46:37.800 --> 01:46:40.800 every single resident of Saint Joe, which was a tiny 1878 01:46:40.840 --> 01:46:43.399 town of not even two hundred people, and various other 1879 01:46:43.520 --> 01:46:46.239 volunteers from throughout the county set out to find the 1880 01:46:46.239 --> 01:46:50.279 missing woman. She was eventually found, relatively unharmed and picked 1881 01:46:50.319 --> 01:46:52.319 up by an all trained vehicle driven by some of 1882 01:46:52.359 --> 01:46:56.039 these volunteers. Linda was lucky enough to have only sustained 1883 01:46:56.039 --> 01:46:58.680 some minor cuts and bruises, but what happened to her 1884 01:46:58.720 --> 01:47:02.239 affected her psychological and it was definitely a strange story 1885 01:47:02.319 --> 01:47:05.640 she had to tell. Chief Deputy Dwayne Pierce stated that 1886 01:47:05.680 --> 01:47:07.760 when she came out of the woods, she wasn't right 1887 01:47:07.800 --> 01:47:08.439 about her head. 1888 01:47:08.880 --> 01:47:09.840 As N's quote. 1889 01:47:10.000 --> 01:47:14.159 Miss Artaga reported that she had survived by eating wild berries, watercress, 1890 01:47:14.680 --> 01:47:17.479 hazel nuts, and anything else she could find which she 1891 01:47:17.560 --> 01:47:21.640 knew was edible. Chulsel drank water from the creek. At night, 1892 01:47:21.720 --> 01:47:24.239 she huddled on the freezing cold ground underneath the trees 1893 01:47:24.239 --> 01:47:27.279 for shelter, praying for someone to come and finally find her. 1894 01:47:28.159 --> 01:47:31.079 Chulso repeatedly thanked her brother and insisted she never would 1895 01:47:31.079 --> 01:47:33.880 have survived without the knowledge he had just been teaching 1896 01:47:33.880 --> 01:47:36.880 her about how to survive in the wild. The strangest 1897 01:47:36.920 --> 01:47:39.479 and scariest part of the entire five day ordeal, though, 1898 01:47:40.119 --> 01:47:43.079 was what Linda said she'd experienced while out there, lost 1899 01:47:43.119 --> 01:47:47.000 and alone, cold and afraid in the unknown woods and trails. 1900 01:47:47.600 --> 01:47:50.279 She claimed that while she was out there, especially at night, 1901 01:47:50.760 --> 01:47:53.760 she would see other people there. They would be walking 1902 01:47:53.800 --> 01:47:55.920 around her along the trails or even right there in 1903 01:47:55.920 --> 01:47:58.000 the thick of the woods. She would ask them for 1904 01:47:58.079 --> 01:48:00.600 help or try to get their attention, maybe even ask 1905 01:48:00.720 --> 01:48:01.960 one of them if they could point her in the 1906 01:48:01.960 --> 01:48:05.439 direction of safety. However, not a single one of these 1907 01:48:05.479 --> 01:48:08.920 people even acknowledged her or looked in her direction. She 1908 01:48:09.039 --> 01:48:12.000 claimed people were even hiding behind the bushes like they 1909 01:48:12.039 --> 01:48:15.399 didn't want her to see them. Now, while in the hospital, 1910 01:48:15.479 --> 01:48:17.840 she did admit that perhaps some of the berries shit 1911 01:48:17.880 --> 01:48:21.119 eat and caused some kind of mind hallucination, she wasn't sure. 1912 01:48:21.720 --> 01:48:23.920 She claimed she'd managed to stay with her brother for 1913 01:48:23.960 --> 01:48:26.800 three days before becoming separated from him, and knew what 1914 01:48:26.920 --> 01:48:29.560 she should and what she should need when trying to survive. 1915 01:48:30.119 --> 01:48:33.880 She's very consistent in her story. Think about the people 1916 01:48:33.960 --> 01:48:37.199 hiding in the bushes. These people definitely weren't part of 1917 01:48:37.239 --> 01:48:39.680 any kind of search party. Why would people trying to 1918 01:48:39.680 --> 01:48:42.159 find a lost woman to hide so she couldn't see them. 1919 01:48:42.560 --> 01:48:45.359 More than that, why would others walk right past her 1920 01:48:45.399 --> 01:48:47.600 and then try and hide as though they were playing 1921 01:48:47.640 --> 01:48:50.039 some kind of strange hide and seek game? Hiding and 1922 01:48:50.079 --> 01:48:53.680 playing sight? Is this, finally the proof that there are 1923 01:48:53.720 --> 01:48:56.079 in fact strange people who live in the woods who 1924 01:48:56.159 --> 01:48:58.319 either don't know how to interact with other people or 1925 01:48:58.479 --> 01:49:01.319 just don't want to actually other people who aren't like 1926 01:49:01.399 --> 01:49:04.880 them or who aren't from where they're from. Is this 1927 01:49:04.960 --> 01:49:08.520 proof of Ferohs wild men. How does this all tie 1928 01:49:08.520 --> 01:49:11.359 in with strange missing person cases and even death we 1929 01:49:11.439 --> 01:49:14.159 see which are becoming so much more common year after 1930 01:49:14.279 --> 01:49:17.279 year in the woods. Is this what we should be 1931 01:49:17.319 --> 01:49:19.880 paying attention to when out searching for the above mentioned 1932 01:49:19.960 --> 01:49:23.520 missing There was a statement made for the doctor Linda 1933 01:49:23.560 --> 01:49:26.119 saw after being taken to the hospital when she was rescued, 1934 01:49:26.399 --> 01:49:31.479 which validates her sanity. She was not insane. How much 1935 01:49:31.520 --> 01:49:34.840 more interesting that she was very picking when she ended 1936 01:49:34.880 --> 01:49:37.159 up being separated from a brother after three days of 1937 01:49:37.199 --> 01:49:40.159 staying right next to him. As we all know, this 1938 01:49:40.239 --> 01:49:42.840 is a very common theme among the missing people in 1939 01:49:42.840 --> 01:49:46.800 the woods, the very picking or berry patches in general. 1940 01:49:48.199 --> 01:49:51.000 But there are those who are found and then those 1941 01:49:51.079 --> 01:49:54.880 who seem to be forever lost. Linda is not the 1942 01:49:54.920 --> 01:49:58.239 first person, or more specifically, the first woman, to report 1943 01:49:58.319 --> 01:50:00.920 things like this while either lost or for whatever reason, 1944 01:50:01.199 --> 01:50:04.359 wandering the woods alone. There are many other reports of 1945 01:50:04.439 --> 01:50:07.600 women being followed or even chased by what they referred 1946 01:50:07.600 --> 01:50:10.960 to as men while being lost in those same woods. 1947 01:50:11.479 --> 01:50:13.520 This is also very common in the East along the 1948 01:50:13.560 --> 01:50:16.920 Appalachian Trail. Tak back to the story of Little Dennis 1949 01:50:16.920 --> 01:50:19.319 Martin and how family out for a hike or camping 1950 01:50:19.359 --> 01:50:22.520 trips what they referred to as a wildman caring something 1951 01:50:22.560 --> 01:50:26.560 which looked like a small child over its shoulder. There 1952 01:50:26.560 --> 01:50:29.520 are also several park rangers in the United States, Dwight 1953 01:50:29.600 --> 01:50:32.920 McCarter among them, who have come forward since retiring and 1954 01:50:32.960 --> 01:50:35.439 tell stories of wild men living and even hunting in 1955 01:50:35.479 --> 01:50:38.720 the woods for national parks in general forested areas of 1956 01:50:38.720 --> 01:50:41.960 her country. Is this only going on here in the 1957 01:50:42.079 --> 01:50:46.359 United States? Though not at all. There's one specific report 1958 01:50:46.399 --> 01:50:49.279 we covered in an early video about wildmen feral humans 1959 01:50:49.319 --> 01:50:51.479 in the woods where at least one park ranger was 1960 01:50:51.479 --> 01:50:55.239 attacked by one of these people. Now, luckily, Linda was 1961 01:50:55.239 --> 01:50:57.239 able to keep her wits about her despite what must 1962 01:50:57.319 --> 01:51:00.399 have been petrifying fear, and she made a full recovery 1963 01:51:00.640 --> 01:51:11.760 after her harrowing ordeal Number one Naomi Lee Widden. On 1964 01:51:11.920 --> 01:51:15.680 November twenty fifth, nineteen ninety four, Dwayne Whidden decided to 1965 01:51:15.680 --> 01:51:19.119 take his son, aged six, and two daughters, ages two 1966 01:51:19.159 --> 01:51:22.039 and three for a hike in the Chattahoochee National Forest. 1967 01:51:23.039 --> 01:51:24.560 He parked the car at the base of a large 1968 01:51:24.560 --> 01:51:27.159 mountain there at the trailhead, unloaded his children, and off 1969 01:51:27.199 --> 01:51:30.680 they went per day of family fund. Together, Dwayne and 1970 01:51:30.760 --> 01:51:32.520 his three kids hiked about a mile and a half 1971 01:51:32.600 --> 01:51:35.039 up an old logging trail and into the deep wilderness 1972 01:51:35.039 --> 01:51:38.279 of the forest. Later on, when recounting the incident of 1973 01:51:38.279 --> 01:51:40.399 what happened and how Naomi had come to be lost 1974 01:51:40.439 --> 01:51:43.239 in the woods, he stated, they, meaning his children, were 1975 01:51:43.279 --> 01:51:46.000 in my full view, my sight and hearing, and then 1976 01:51:46.039 --> 01:51:49.760 she was gone. He stated that they were all looking 1977 01:51:49.800 --> 01:51:53.000 for signs of animals when suddenly Naomi, only two years old, 1978 01:51:53.560 --> 01:51:57.399 just simply vanished. There was never any explanation we could 1979 01:51:57.439 --> 01:52:00.159 find of what actually happened, And how is possible a 1980 01:52:00.159 --> 01:52:02.319 two year old little girl in full view of her 1981 01:52:02.319 --> 01:52:05.600 father no less, disappeared faster than he could finish blinking. 1982 01:52:06.760 --> 01:52:10.640 It's like she blinked right out of existence. Local authorities 1983 01:52:10.640 --> 01:52:13.199 brought in bloodhounds and search teams from the surrounding counties 1984 01:52:13.199 --> 01:52:16.079 to aid in the search of a small girl. Teams 1985 01:52:16.079 --> 01:52:18.600 of volunteers and search and rescue headed out well into 1986 01:52:18.640 --> 01:52:20.880 the middle of the night, looking for Naomi and calling 1987 01:52:20.920 --> 01:52:24.479 her name, but to no avail. She was seemingly nowhere 1988 01:52:24.479 --> 01:52:29.319 at all. Now, approximately twenty five hours after she first disappeared, 1989 01:52:29.760 --> 01:52:32.479 a man named Kip Clayton, was searching the outer fringes 1990 01:52:32.520 --> 01:52:34.560 of the search area he and his team were assigned 1991 01:52:34.560 --> 01:52:38.039 to when he said his intuition, that old gut instinct 1992 01:52:38.279 --> 01:52:40.680 pushed him forth to go and search another two hundred 1993 01:52:40.720 --> 01:52:43.600 and fifty yards forward, leaving the official search area he 1994 01:52:43.640 --> 01:52:47.960 was looking in. But that's when he found her. Laying 1995 01:52:48.000 --> 01:52:51.560 next to a large log, face down and unresponsive in mud, 1996 01:52:51.680 --> 01:52:55.439 muck and leaves was two year old Naomi Wind. He 1997 01:52:55.479 --> 01:52:57.439 picked her up and she let out a small moan. 1998 01:52:58.560 --> 01:53:01.840 She was freezing cold, her body at a dangerously low temperature, 1999 01:53:02.720 --> 01:53:04.840 and Kip ran as fast as he could when Naomi 2000 01:53:04.880 --> 01:53:07.840 barely breathing in his arms, the approximate mile back to 2001 01:53:07.880 --> 01:53:11.479 the command post. Naomi was rushed to the nearest hospital 2002 01:53:11.560 --> 01:53:13.479 and she was only semi conscious and in a very 2003 01:53:13.520 --> 01:53:17.600 critical condition, which she arrived now. While eventually she fully 2004 01:53:17.640 --> 01:53:21.399 recovered and managed to survive her ordeal, many questions remain 2005 01:53:21.439 --> 01:53:25.079 about what exactly happened to her. As mentioned before, where 2006 01:53:25.159 --> 01:53:27.439 Naomi was found was only about two hundred and fifty 2007 01:53:27.479 --> 01:53:30.039 yards away from where the searchers would have been screaming 2008 01:53:30.079 --> 01:53:32.960 and yelling her name the night before. All throughout the night. 2009 01:53:33.680 --> 01:53:36.600 Why didn't Naomi respond to them at all? Why didn't 2010 01:53:36.640 --> 01:53:38.680 she alert them in any way as to where she 2011 01:53:38.800 --> 01:53:41.399 was so they could go and help her. It isn't 2012 01:53:41.399 --> 01:53:43.279 possible that she was faced down in the mud the 2013 01:53:43.399 --> 01:53:45.880 entire time, or she couldn't have survived. Surely she would 2014 01:53:45.880 --> 01:53:49.800 have suffocated. So why didn't she respond? Did she not 2015 01:53:49.920 --> 01:53:54.199 hear them? If she couldn't hear them, why not taking 2016 01:53:54.199 --> 01:53:57.039 into account when trying to understand these things, how close 2017 01:53:57.159 --> 01:53:59.560 this disappearance was to the Great Smoky Mountains, and how 2018 01:53:59.560 --> 01:54:02.600 many not only have disappeared there, but we're found face 2019 01:54:02.680 --> 01:54:06.119 down on the ground, usually the ones closest to Naomi's 2020 01:54:06.119 --> 01:54:09.359 as you're found this way, sometimes though it's too late. 2021 01:54:09.880 --> 01:54:14.920 Naomi was very lucky to have survived. Also, why does 2022 01:54:15.000 --> 01:54:18.000 a simple Google search turn up more information about this case? 2023 01:54:20.279 --> 01:54:22.760 Other in one document? There's not any mention of this 2024 01:54:22.960 --> 01:54:30.920 online anywhere. Hello friends, Steve Stockton. Here in this episode, 2025 01:54:31.239 --> 01:54:34.359 we're going to take a look at some bizarre disappearances 2026 01:54:34.479 --> 01:54:41.359 from hospitals. Joined me let's walk and see. First up, 2027 01:54:41.439 --> 01:54:45.399 we have the story of Joan Gay Kroft on April ninth, 2028 01:54:45.479 --> 01:54:48.600 nineteen forty seven, the deadly is tornado every day at 2029 01:54:48.640 --> 01:54:52.720 Oklahoma went raging through parts of the state. A monstrous 2030 01:54:52.720 --> 01:54:55.199 and deadly Class F five was a mouse fream of 2031 01:54:55.239 --> 01:54:59.000 wind and debris, and it ripped through parts of Texas, Oklahoma, 2032 01:54:59.159 --> 01:55:02.319 and Kansas. At some point, it blew a path through 2033 01:55:02.359 --> 01:55:07.560 the town of Woodward, Oklahoma, leaving in its way chaos, destruction, tragedy, 2034 01:55:07.680 --> 01:55:08.239 and death. 2035 01:55:08.920 --> 01:55:10.560 In the end, one hundred and eighty. 2036 01:55:10.319 --> 01:55:14.119 Five people were deceased, a thousand more were injured, and 2037 01:55:14.159 --> 01:55:16.479 it was the beginning and one of the strangest unsolved 2038 01:55:16.520 --> 01:55:21.479 mysteries in Oklahoma's history. Although many people tragically lost their 2039 01:55:21.520 --> 01:55:24.800 lives to the whirling cyclone of death, there were many 2040 01:55:24.800 --> 01:55:28.439 many more who were spared. One of those who was 2041 01:55:28.520 --> 01:55:31.199 lucky enough to escape death clutches was a four year 2042 01:55:31.239 --> 01:55:35.600 old named Joan Gaycroft. Joan's mother had been killed in 2043 01:55:35.680 --> 01:55:39.000 the natural disaster and her stepfather had been critically injured, 2044 01:55:39.520 --> 01:55:41.680 but Jone herself had come away from the brush with 2045 01:55:41.760 --> 01:55:44.479 death with a non life threatening injury in the form 2046 01:55:44.560 --> 01:55:47.520 of a piece of wood that penetrated her leg. She 2047 01:55:47.680 --> 01:55:50.439 was found and rushed to the hospital for treatment, along 2048 01:55:50.479 --> 01:55:53.760 with her sister, Jerry, who had also suffered non life 2049 01:55:53.760 --> 01:55:58.159 threatening injuries. There was obviously a huge influx of seriously 2050 01:55:58.159 --> 01:56:01.600 injured people, some on the of death due to the storm, 2051 01:56:02.279 --> 01:56:04.640 and so the girls were quickly and easily treated and 2052 01:56:04.640 --> 01:56:07.840 then relegated to the basement of the overcrowded hospital, as 2053 01:56:07.880 --> 01:56:11.199 had been transformed into a shelter where many refugees from 2054 01:56:11.239 --> 01:56:14.720 the tornado were being housed and treated. They were there 2055 01:56:14.760 --> 01:56:17.479 for a night and things were chaotic and sad, but 2056 01:56:17.520 --> 01:56:21.359 they got through it together. The next day, two men 2057 01:56:21.399 --> 01:56:24.560 in what were described as khaki army uniforms went into 2058 01:56:24.640 --> 01:56:27.279 the hospital and made their way down to the basement. 2059 01:56:28.119 --> 01:56:30.960 They went straight for Joan and tried escorting her out 2060 01:56:31.000 --> 01:56:33.720 of the basement in front of everyone else, which by 2061 01:56:33.720 --> 01:56:36.359 now was at least a few hundred people. Despite the 2062 01:56:36.399 --> 01:56:40.279 little girl's loud protests and screaming, they knew who she 2063 01:56:40.479 --> 01:56:43.159 was because when they first entered the basement, they'd ask 2064 01:56:43.239 --> 01:56:46.000 a member the overworked and overtired staff who she was. 2065 01:56:46.760 --> 01:56:50.199 Asked for her by name, specifically, and the staff member 2066 01:56:50.239 --> 01:56:53.600 pointed her out. They didn't seem to be interested in 2067 01:56:53.640 --> 01:56:57.640 anyone but the four year old girl. Joanes screamed and cried, 2068 01:56:57.880 --> 01:57:00.520 pleading with the men not to make her leave it sister, 2069 01:57:01.159 --> 01:57:04.359 and the men patiently comforted her, telling her that they 2070 01:57:04.399 --> 01:57:06.680 were friends and that she would be back there in 2071 01:57:06.800 --> 01:57:09.680 just a few hours to collect Jerry so they could 2072 01:57:09.720 --> 01:57:13.439 be brought to wherever they were going together. The hospital 2073 01:57:13.520 --> 01:57:16.239 staff realized what was going on after seeing the commotion 2074 01:57:16.640 --> 01:57:19.319 and tried their best to intervene, and as they did, 2075 01:57:19.399 --> 01:57:22.880 the men were very calm and composed, seemingly very professional, 2076 01:57:23.159 --> 01:57:26.119 and they then explained that they were merely taking the girls, 2077 01:57:26.199 --> 01:57:29.279 Joan first and then Jerry, to another hospital where the 2078 01:57:29.279 --> 01:57:33.199 girl's relptors were waiting for them. Somehow, the men were 2079 01:57:33.199 --> 01:57:35.680 allowed to leave with the little girl, as apparently that 2080 01:57:35.800 --> 01:57:39.479 explanation was deemed good enough for whoever was in charge. 2081 01:57:39.560 --> 01:57:42.199 But no one ever returned with Joan, and she was 2082 01:57:42.239 --> 01:57:45.279 never seen or heard from again. Nobody ever saw the 2083 01:57:45.279 --> 01:57:49.520 two men again either. Eventually it was discovered that Joan 2084 01:57:49.560 --> 01:57:52.800 had vanished and had more than likely been abducted, and 2085 01:57:52.840 --> 01:57:55.880 when that happened, a major manhunt was launched for but 2086 01:57:55.920 --> 01:57:59.600 it turned up almost nothing at all. In fact, her 2087 01:57:59.640 --> 01:58:03.399 kidnaps have never been identified, and no trace of them 2088 01:58:03.600 --> 01:58:08.319 or Joan has ever been found. The case gained international coverage, 2089 01:58:08.560 --> 01:58:10.359 which meant it was a big deal to the time, 2090 01:58:10.760 --> 01:58:13.199 a time when most cases didn't get much further than 2091 01:58:13.199 --> 01:58:16.279 the local media and news, and in the years to 2092 01:58:16.359 --> 01:58:20.680 come it spawned many anniversary articles asking what could have 2093 01:58:20.680 --> 01:58:24.399 happened to the little girl and who her alleged abductors were. 2094 01:58:25.319 --> 01:58:28.920 On May nineteen ninety three, the case was covered on 2095 01:58:29.000 --> 01:58:32.399 the show Unsolved Mysteries, and it featured a full dramatic 2096 01:58:32.520 --> 01:58:37.079 reenactment of the whole bizarre event. Interestingly enough, many women 2097 01:58:37.119 --> 01:58:39.640 have come forward throughout the years claiming to be the 2098 01:58:39.680 --> 01:58:44.000 adult Joan Gaycroft, but those leads have never gone anywhere, 2099 01:58:44.159 --> 01:58:46.840 and all the women have been ruled out, either genetically 2100 01:58:47.000 --> 01:58:50.960 or by some other means. In nineteen ninety nine, a 2101 01:58:51.000 --> 01:58:53.399 woman came forward to the editor of the newspaper The 2102 01:58:53.479 --> 01:58:56.800 Oklahoma claiming to be Joaned, but she then ceased all 2103 01:58:56.840 --> 01:59:00.640 communication after the initial contact and failed to show up 2104 01:59:00.680 --> 01:59:04.199 for the planned meeting with the editor. This happened again 2105 01:59:04.279 --> 01:59:07.520 with a woman living in Canada, and obviously no one 2106 01:59:07.600 --> 01:59:09.880 knows whether or not either of those women would have 2107 01:59:09.920 --> 01:59:13.600 been the long lost little girl. Despite dozens of women 2108 01:59:13.640 --> 01:59:16.079 throughout the decades who claimed to be the little girl, 2109 01:59:16.319 --> 01:59:18.840 none of them have ever proven to be, and that 2110 01:59:18.920 --> 01:59:21.399 leaves us with nothing but theories to go on. As 2111 01:59:21.479 --> 01:59:25.960 Joan Gaycroft is still listed as a missing person, most 2112 01:59:26.000 --> 01:59:29.359 people believe she was kidnapped due to obvious reasons, but 2113 01:59:29.960 --> 01:59:32.960 that doesn't explain the series of bizarre events that happened 2114 01:59:33.039 --> 01:59:35.880 leading up to the alleged abduction. Who were the men, 2115 01:59:36.319 --> 01:59:38.520 how do they know about Joan, who she was and 2116 01:59:38.560 --> 01:59:42.000 where she was? Why were they specifically looking for her 2117 01:59:42.239 --> 01:59:44.079 out of the dozens of other kids who have been 2118 01:59:44.159 --> 01:59:46.600 orphaned or at least stranded in the shelter to the 2119 01:59:46.640 --> 01:59:50.720 devastation of the tornado, And why not take her sister too? 2120 01:59:50.960 --> 01:59:53.239 They knew her name, and so they must have known 2121 01:59:53.319 --> 01:59:56.199 at least of her, But what did they want and 2122 01:59:56.199 --> 01:59:58.399 how were they able to publicly take her yet lay 2123 01:59:58.439 --> 02:00:01.560 behind no clues or trace and never be seen again. 2124 02:00:02.399 --> 02:00:05.520 For their part, Jones's family believes that some other family 2125 02:00:05.560 --> 02:00:08.399 lost their daughter in the disaster and wanted to replace 2126 02:00:08.439 --> 02:00:12.399 her with Joan, But just like everything else, there's never 2127 02:00:12.439 --> 02:00:16.039 been any proof to that theory. Simply put, no one 2128 02:00:16.119 --> 02:00:19.680 knows what happened to Joan Gaycroft, and more than likely 2129 02:00:19.960 --> 02:00:25.680 no one ever will next up we have Jerry Irwin. 2130 02:00:26.960 --> 02:00:29.640 Another strange vanishing that has more than just a little 2131 02:00:29.720 --> 02:00:32.920 bizarre and unexplained element to it is the disappearance of 2132 02:00:32.960 --> 02:00:37.680 Private First Class Jerry Irwin. On March to nineteen fifty nine, 2133 02:00:38.039 --> 02:00:41.119 Jerry woke up in a hospital in Cedar City, Utah, 2134 02:00:41.239 --> 02:00:43.239 with no memory of how he ended up there in 2135 02:00:43.279 --> 02:00:47.000 the first place. He had reportedly been unconscious for twenty 2136 02:00:47.039 --> 02:00:50.039 three hours, during which time he had been talking in 2137 02:00:50.079 --> 02:00:53.880 his sleep and saying something about the jacket on the brush. 2138 02:00:54.159 --> 02:00:56.880 When he came to, he asked the hospital staff if 2139 02:00:56.880 --> 02:00:59.239 there were any survivors, but no one knew what he 2140 02:00:59.319 --> 02:01:03.880 meant by that survivors of what no one knew, including 2141 02:01:03.960 --> 02:01:08.079 Jerry himself. Finally, though, he became lucid enough to tell 2142 02:01:08.119 --> 02:01:10.640 his story, and it seemed like his memory was coming 2143 02:01:10.680 --> 02:01:13.199 back to him. He told the staff that he had 2144 02:01:13.239 --> 02:01:15.520 just been off on a leave of absence and on 2145 02:01:15.560 --> 02:01:18.960 his way home from Napa, Idaho, going to Fort Bliss 2146 02:01:19.000 --> 02:01:22.560 in El Paso, Texas, where he was stationed. He said 2147 02:01:22.600 --> 02:01:25.239 he was a technician for Nike Air Missiles and that 2148 02:01:25.359 --> 02:01:28.079 after he had reached Cedar City, he had been driving 2149 02:01:28.079 --> 02:01:31.159 along Route fourteen when he looked up and saw what 2150 02:01:31.279 --> 02:01:34.279 he described as a strange pulsatic object in the sky. 2151 02:01:35.439 --> 02:01:37.399 He pulled over and got out of his car to 2152 02:01:37.439 --> 02:01:39.560 try and get a closer look at what he was seeing, 2153 02:01:40.359 --> 02:01:42.439 and he thought that at first it was a large 2154 02:01:42.439 --> 02:01:47.000 airplane coming in for possible emergency landing. Jerry then wrote 2155 02:01:47.000 --> 02:01:49.600 a note, which he put on his car windshield that said, 2156 02:01:50.079 --> 02:01:53.399 have gone to investigate possible plane crash. Please call it 2157 02:01:53.520 --> 02:01:57.560 law enforcement officers. He also scrawled the word stop on 2158 02:01:57.600 --> 02:01:59.880 the side of his vehicle to try and get who 2159 02:02:00.279 --> 02:02:02.880 was passing by to stop and read the note, thereby 2160 02:02:02.960 --> 02:02:05.960 calling attention to it and alerting the authorities about it. 2161 02:02:06.520 --> 02:02:09.359 He simply scrawled the word stop and shoe polish and 2162 02:02:09.399 --> 02:02:12.199 then walked off to investigate the strange side of the sky. 2163 02:02:13.560 --> 02:02:16.119 A fishing game inspector came along and found the note 2164 02:02:16.199 --> 02:02:19.880 some time later, and after alerting the Sheriff's office, a 2165 02:02:19.920 --> 02:02:22.760 search party was launched both for Jerry and for the 2166 02:02:22.800 --> 02:02:26.479 alleged plane crash he claimed him gone to investigate. When 2167 02:02:26.520 --> 02:02:29.159 he was brought to the hospital, no one could understand 2168 02:02:29.239 --> 02:02:31.760 why he was completely out cold and unable to be 2169 02:02:31.800 --> 02:02:34.640 woken up by any of the usual means, and there 2170 02:02:34.640 --> 02:02:37.319 also seemed to be nothing physically wrong with him either. 2171 02:02:38.560 --> 02:02:41.159 When he did finally wake up, he claimed that his 2172 02:02:41.279 --> 02:02:44.920 jacket was missing, but that he otherwise felt perfectly normal, 2173 02:02:45.319 --> 02:02:48.680 if not a little tired and confused. He was then 2174 02:02:48.680 --> 02:02:52.399 transferred to William Beaumont Hospital at Fort Bliss so that 2175 02:02:52.479 --> 02:02:54.960 there he could be observed for four days, and after 2176 02:02:55.000 --> 02:02:57.640 that he was put back on duty and into circulation. 2177 02:02:58.800 --> 02:03:02.560 Not too long after cond his duties, Jerry began suffering 2178 02:03:02.680 --> 02:03:06.520 random fainting spells while on duty, and fearing for his health, 2179 02:03:06.800 --> 02:03:08.800 his superiors at the base made him go and get 2180 02:03:08.880 --> 02:03:12.880 evaluated again at the hospital. He fainted again, and when 2181 02:03:12.920 --> 02:03:15.159 he woke up at the hospital, he was said to 2182 02:03:15.199 --> 02:03:17.600 have been in a similar state to when he had 2183 02:03:17.640 --> 02:03:20.880 first been there a few weeks earlier. He woke up 2184 02:03:20.920 --> 02:03:25.359 suddenly panicked, and once again started asking the hospital staff 2185 02:03:25.520 --> 02:03:29.079 if there had been any survivors. It seemed like he 2186 02:03:29.119 --> 02:03:31.800 was having some sort of flashback, and when he woke 2187 02:03:31.880 --> 02:03:35.239 up that time, he thought he'd been waking up originally 2188 02:03:35.880 --> 02:03:39.000 meeting Jerry. Irwin was completely unaware that any time had 2189 02:03:39.039 --> 02:03:41.399 passed at all between when he left a note on 2190 02:03:41.439 --> 02:03:44.520 his car and woke up. He didn't know he'd been 2191 02:03:44.560 --> 02:03:47.079 on duty for all those weeks, or that he had 2192 02:03:47.119 --> 02:03:51.439 been fainting. He had no memory in all the previous weeks, 2193 02:03:51.479 --> 02:03:53.800 and in his mind it had only just gone to 2194 02:03:53.840 --> 02:03:57.880 investigate a possible playing crash. He was kept at the 2195 02:03:57.880 --> 02:04:01.039 hospital for a full month for observation, and was then 2196 02:04:01.119 --> 02:04:05.680 once again released back on base into active duty. The 2197 02:04:05.800 --> 02:04:09.319 very next day, he suddenly left base without permission and 2198 02:04:09.439 --> 02:04:12.359 got on a bus to al Passo, stopping at Cedar 2199 02:04:12.439 --> 02:04:16.079 City and disembarking. He then headed directly to where he 2200 02:04:16.079 --> 02:04:18.239 had originally parked his car on the side of the road, 2201 02:04:18.640 --> 02:04:21.319 and to the same area where he'd originally been investigating 2202 02:04:21.399 --> 02:04:24.840 what he thought was a possible plane crash. He apparently 2203 02:04:24.880 --> 02:04:27.319 found his jacket and inside one of the pockets was 2204 02:04:27.319 --> 02:04:30.119 a pencil shoved inside of a buttonhole with a piece 2205 02:04:30.119 --> 02:04:34.039 of paper entwined around it. Jerry purportedly burned the paper, 2206 02:04:34.159 --> 02:04:36.600 but then came out of whatever trance he was seemingly in, 2207 02:04:36.800 --> 02:04:39.399 then returned to the road. He was picked up there 2208 02:04:39.399 --> 02:04:43.119 by the local sheriff. The sheriff told Jerry what had 2209 02:04:43.119 --> 02:04:45.880 happened to him, but he had no recollection at all. 2210 02:04:45.920 --> 02:04:48.159 Of leaving the base, where as to why he had 2211 02:04:48.199 --> 02:04:51.199 traveled back to that very spot. He also had no 2212 02:04:51.279 --> 02:04:53.960 idea what was on the paper that he burned, or 2213 02:04:54.000 --> 02:04:57.439 why he had burned it in the first place. Jerry 2214 02:04:57.479 --> 02:05:01.960 Irwin was subjected to another extensive st psychological evaluation, but 2215 02:05:02.000 --> 02:05:05.600 when no further answers could be found, a deeper analysis 2216 02:05:05.720 --> 02:05:09.159 was ordered. He was once again put into Beaumont Hospital 2217 02:05:09.319 --> 02:05:13.079 for tests an additional evaluation, but then he was almost 2218 02:05:13.079 --> 02:05:17.039 immediately released again. As soon as he was released, he 2219 02:05:17.119 --> 02:05:20.399 once again went awall without any warning, and he hasn't 2220 02:05:20.439 --> 02:05:24.039 been seen or heard from since. So what happened to 2221 02:05:24.119 --> 02:05:27.560 Jerry Irwin? And why was he seemingly so obsessed with 2222 02:05:27.640 --> 02:05:30.840 that particular location on the side of the road. Why 2223 02:05:30.880 --> 02:05:34.119 had he gone back there? What happened to him initially 2224 02:05:34.640 --> 02:05:37.079 that made it so he was so knocked out that 2225 02:05:37.199 --> 02:05:39.840 even the usual methods of waking someone up from a 2226 02:05:39.840 --> 02:05:43.960 stupor proved useless when used on him. How and why 2227 02:05:44.039 --> 02:05:46.640 had he been so entranced that he had no memory 2228 02:05:46.720 --> 02:05:49.359 returning to that spot or why he had burned that. 2229 02:05:49.199 --> 02:05:50.079 Piece of paper. 2230 02:05:50.960 --> 02:05:54.520 If he was tranced or knocked out or both, then 2231 02:05:54.640 --> 02:05:58.279 by whom and why. There's so many questions here, but 2232 02:05:58.319 --> 02:06:03.119 with no answers, it's impossible to understand mostly anything about 2233 02:06:03.199 --> 02:06:06.079 this case and what happened to Jerry himself after he 2234 02:06:06.119 --> 02:06:10.199 went missing again. Why was he continuously released from the hospital, 2235 02:06:10.760 --> 02:06:13.079 And if it was really because nothing could be found 2236 02:06:13.159 --> 02:06:14.840 to be wrong with him, then. 2237 02:06:14.720 --> 02:06:17.399 What was going on with him? One of the main. 2238 02:06:17.279 --> 02:06:19.439 Questions is how did he end up that hospital in 2239 02:06:19.479 --> 02:06:23.560 the first place, But again, we'll probably never know, and 2240 02:06:23.600 --> 02:06:27.479 there's been no new information about this case, though conspiracies 2241 02:06:27.479 --> 02:06:30.479 and rumors run rampant around it. Still to this day, 2242 02:06:31.359 --> 02:06:36.760 Jerry Irwin is still listed as a missing person. Next 2243 02:06:37.039 --> 02:06:41.800 Benita Chamberlain. On February thirteenth, nineteen seventy eight, a young 2244 02:06:41.880 --> 02:06:44.720 mother to be named Benita Chamberlain, who was only twenty 2245 02:06:44.720 --> 02:06:48.359 four years old, arrived at the Sacred Heart General Hospital 2246 02:06:48.359 --> 02:06:51.560 in Eugene, Oregon, seemingly in labor and ready to give 2247 02:06:51.600 --> 02:06:55.239 birth their baby girl. Benita had gone into labor five 2248 02:06:55.279 --> 02:06:58.520 weeks early, and the premature infant was immediately put into 2249 02:06:58.560 --> 02:07:01.399 intensive care as she ought for her life for a week. 2250 02:07:02.079 --> 02:07:05.399 Beanita dealt with it wonderfully by all accounts, and when 2251 02:07:05.399 --> 02:07:07.840 she went back to the hospital to visit her little girl, 2252 02:07:07.960 --> 02:07:10.880 after having been released herself a few days earlier. She 2253 02:07:10.960 --> 02:07:13.039 was told that her daughter was doing great and was 2254 02:07:13.079 --> 02:07:16.680 becoming very strong and healthy. In fact, the baby girl 2255 02:07:16.720 --> 02:07:19.640 was doing so well that the hospital surprised Anita by 2256 02:07:19.640 --> 02:07:21.359 telling her she would be able to take her daughter 2257 02:07:21.399 --> 02:07:25.920 home that afternoon. Benita was incredibly excited and relieved, and 2258 02:07:26.000 --> 02:07:28.239 she immediately went and called a friend to tell them 2259 02:07:28.239 --> 02:07:31.479 the good news. That was the last time anyone ever 2260 02:07:31.520 --> 02:07:34.840 heard from her. When she didn't return home that night, 2261 02:07:35.199 --> 02:07:38.840 she was supported dismissing and the authorities launched a search. 2262 02:07:39.720 --> 02:07:42.760 Her car was quickly found and it seemingly had been 2263 02:07:42.800 --> 02:07:46.199 abandoned at a nearby bottling factory, and it didn't take 2264 02:07:46.239 --> 02:07:48.680 long for them to find her purse, which had been 2265 02:07:48.720 --> 02:07:51.520 discarded in the parking lot of the University of Oregon. 2266 02:07:52.560 --> 02:07:55.239 The last time anyone saw she was driving out of 2267 02:07:55.239 --> 02:07:58.000 the parking lot of the hospital after being given the 2268 02:07:58.000 --> 02:08:02.039 good news about her daughter. Her newborn daughter, and Benita's 2269 02:08:02.079 --> 02:08:04.920 two oldest daughters were all left behind with no answers 2270 02:08:04.920 --> 02:08:08.760 and without their mother. Authorities thought they saw the mystery 2271 02:08:08.760 --> 02:08:11.680 a week later, when they made a gruesome discovery. They 2272 02:08:11.680 --> 02:08:14.199 found the remains of a murdered woman stuffed into a 2273 02:08:14.239 --> 02:08:17.840 plastic bag and then dumped into a garbage bed. However, 2274 02:08:18.199 --> 02:08:20.840 it turned out to be someone different and had nothing 2275 02:08:20.840 --> 02:08:25.000 to do with Benita, So what happened to Benita Chamberlain 2276 02:08:25.680 --> 02:08:28.479 is still a mystery to this day, and she is 2277 02:08:28.560 --> 02:08:35.159 still considered a missing person. Next Tavish Sutton. An equally 2278 02:08:35.319 --> 02:08:39.720 strange disappearance happened on March sixth, nineteen ninety three, when 2279 02:08:39.760 --> 02:08:43.039 a one month old baby named Tavish Sutton was admitted 2280 02:08:43.039 --> 02:08:46.640 to the Hughes Spaulding Pediatric Unit of Grady Memorial Hospital 2281 02:08:46.880 --> 02:08:50.199 in Atlanta, Georgia. Tavish had been admitted in order to 2282 02:08:50.239 --> 02:08:53.760 have an abscess removed, and after a routine minor surgery, 2283 02:08:54.000 --> 02:08:56.600 he was sent into a semi private room to recuperate 2284 02:08:56.640 --> 02:08:59.960 and rest because his mother was being treated for secon 2285 02:09:00.079 --> 02:09:03.560 chiatric problems at a mental institution at the time. Tavish 2286 02:09:03.640 --> 02:09:06.000 was released back into the custody of the Department of 2287 02:09:06.079 --> 02:09:08.840 Child and Family Services, as he had been living with 2288 02:09:08.880 --> 02:09:11.520 a foster family since he was released from the hospital 2289 02:09:11.600 --> 02:09:15.600 after being born. His biological mother didn't even know her 2290 02:09:15.720 --> 02:09:17.960 new baby was having surgery or that he had been 2291 02:09:17.960 --> 02:09:22.119 admitted into the hospital that day. Three days after that surgery, 2292 02:09:22.600 --> 02:09:26.479 Tavish Sutton would vanish without a trace. In the early 2293 02:09:26.479 --> 02:09:29.880 morning hours around six forty five am on March sixth, 2294 02:09:29.960 --> 02:09:32.560 nineteen ninety three, a nurse checked on him and found 2295 02:09:32.640 --> 02:09:35.239 him to be doing well. She returned to the room 2296 02:09:35.279 --> 02:09:38.960 fifteen minutes later, and the baby was simply gone. A 2297 02:09:39.039 --> 02:09:41.680 thorough search of the hospital in a surrounding area turned 2298 02:09:41.720 --> 02:09:44.119 up nothing at all, and the nurse was the only 2299 02:09:44.159 --> 02:09:46.520 one who had entered or left the unit at that time. 2300 02:09:46.920 --> 02:09:49.319 Some sources say she's the only one that left the 2301 02:09:49.319 --> 02:09:53.079 hospital at all that hour on that day. No suspects 2302 02:09:53.119 --> 02:09:55.560 ever turned up. And because his mother hadn't even known 2303 02:09:55.600 --> 02:09:58.000 he was there in the first place, and because she'd 2304 02:09:58.000 --> 02:10:00.279 been under the care of staff at the institution, she 2305 02:10:00.399 --> 02:10:03.159 was in with her whereabouts throughout the entire day, being 2306 02:10:03.199 --> 02:10:06.760 known verified, she wasn't even considered a suspect, nor were 2307 02:10:06.840 --> 02:10:10.159 any of her or Tavish as other family members. A 2308 02:10:10.239 --> 02:10:13.000 lawsuit was filed against the hospital, and it resulted in 2309 02:10:13.039 --> 02:10:15.920 a six hundred thousand dollars settlement, but no leads were 2310 02:10:15.960 --> 02:10:18.640 ever found as to what became of Tavish Sutton, who 2311 02:10:18.680 --> 02:10:21.079 was only one month old at the time of his disappearance. 2312 02:10:22.000 --> 02:10:24.319 The main theory in the beginning was that a woman 2313 02:10:24.520 --> 02:10:26.680 who would show up at the hospital pretending to be 2314 02:10:26.760 --> 02:10:30.399 pregnant all the time had somehow abducted him, but this 2315 02:10:30.560 --> 02:10:33.720 was never proven, and that lady too had an alibi 2316 02:10:34.239 --> 02:10:37.039 and wasn't able to be considered a suspect in this case. 2317 02:10:37.880 --> 02:10:40.840 How did an almost newborn baby vanish from such a 2318 02:10:40.840 --> 02:10:43.640 public place in the matter of a mere fifteen minutes. 2319 02:10:44.399 --> 02:10:47.279 Tavish Sutton has never been found, and there hasn't ever 2320 02:10:47.319 --> 02:10:49.760 been a single lead or clue as to what happened 2321 02:10:49.760 --> 02:10:54.560 to him. Well, friends, there you have it. Hospitals are 2322 02:10:54.560 --> 02:10:57.359 places we go when we're injured to some extent, and 2323 02:10:57.439 --> 02:11:00.199 we expect to leave them healed and complete. For the 2324 02:11:00.239 --> 02:11:03.399 people we've discussed here today and so many others throughout 2325 02:11:03.439 --> 02:11:07.479 the world, hospitals have been their final destination before passing 2326 02:11:07.479 --> 02:11:11.640 into the strange world of bizarre and mysterious disappearances. Where 2327 02:11:11.680 --> 02:11:15.199 did these people go and what happened to them? How 2328 02:11:15.239 --> 02:11:19.399 could a person so completely disappear so suddenly and leave 2329 02:11:19.439 --> 02:11:22.439 behind absolutely no trace at all of what happened to them? 2330 02:11:22.960 --> 02:11:26.840 Or where they ended up. Hospitals are very public places 2331 02:11:27.159 --> 02:11:29.760 that are staffed by thousands of people in some cases, 2332 02:11:30.279 --> 02:11:32.880 so how does something like this even begin to happen? 2333 02:11:33.600 --> 02:11:37.079 Those are all great questions, but unfortunately they will most 2334 02:11:37.199 --> 02:11:41.000 likely forever remain without answers, at least in the majority 2335 02:11:41.000 --> 02:11:44.880 of these. I look forward to your comments on these cases, 2336 02:11:45.079 --> 02:11:49.119 but please be friendly and respectful until we meet again. 2337 02:11:49.439 --> 02:11:52.000 Be good to yourselves and each other. And I'll see 2338 02:11:52.039 --> 02:11:54.960 you just a little further on down the trail. I'm 2339 02:11:55.000 --> 02:11:58.399 Steve Stockton, and I'll talk to you next time. And 2340 02:11:58.479 --> 02:12:10.319 please tell your animal I said I