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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it is time to make that change. Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 1>we count it all. Joy to be with you this day,

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<v Speaker 1>Dr West, and myself Dot I'm so glad to be

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<v Speaker 1>back in the place with you and our viewers and

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<v Speaker 1>our listeners. So much going on in our country, in

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<v Speaker 1>the world per usual, nothing new about all of that.

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<v Speaker 1>We're gonna try to go a little deeper into you know,

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<v Speaker 1>the more than twenty killed near Gaza aid distribution centers.

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<v Speaker 1>We know that there are national laws and also international

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<v Speaker 1>laws against attacking one civilians two providers of aid and food.

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<v Speaker 1>That should not be happening under international agreements. But it's

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<v Speaker 1>been happening since this war on Gaza started. Let's be clear,

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<v Speaker 1>this is not an equal war. It's not two sides

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<v Speaker 1>to have equal power.

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<v Speaker 2>It is.

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<v Speaker 1>It is a one sided proposition at this point. And

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<v Speaker 1>then the Boulder attacks. No room in this country or

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<v Speaker 1>in the world for anti Semitism, for killing of innocent people.

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<v Speaker 1>We've said that time and time again, Doctor West. We

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<v Speaker 1>don't equivocate on that. It's just so sad what happened

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<v Speaker 1>in Voulder and then ranked choice voting, woo, we might

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<v Speaker 1>have an upset in in New York City between an

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<v Speaker 1>upstart of somebody that is a self described socialist and

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<v Speaker 1>the other front runner, which is former Governor Andrew Cuomo. Now,

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<v Speaker 1>this ranked choice voting was something that New Yorkers supported

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<v Speaker 1>to try to level the playing field. And my god,

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<v Speaker 1>there might be there just might be an upset. But

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<v Speaker 1>before we get to any of that, the doctor is

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<v Speaker 1>in the house, Doctor West. What is on your heart,

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<v Speaker 1>your soul and your mind today?

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<v Speaker 2>A dear Since then, I tell you we did miss

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<v Speaker 2>you yesterday on Firthday. And we had quite a day

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<v Speaker 2>as you can't imagine, though, Brother Taverts came in and

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<v Speaker 2>then we had the special guest of one and only, incomparable,

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<v Speaker 2>inimitable Clifton West, my one blood brother. In the old world,

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<v Speaker 2>I got billions of brothers, but I only got one

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<v Speaker 2>blood brother. Come on and we had an hour of

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<v Speaker 2>pure joy, of pure delight and remembrance, going back to

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<v Speaker 2>family life. And you know, chock the side the sack, though,

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<v Speaker 2>but your spirits with us, oh indeed, indeed, And you know,

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<v Speaker 2>brother Taverts, he's just such a masterful weaver. That brother

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<v Speaker 2>brought in music that I hadn't heard for years and

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<v Speaker 2>stories that I had forgot that he re read my

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<v Speaker 2>autobio Augraphy that s Filey Books, published almost fifteen twenty

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<v Speaker 2>years ago, and then of course my brother just took

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<v Speaker 2>it to the height so that it was a wonderful day,

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<v Speaker 2>but it was still a day that missed you. All

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<v Speaker 2>of us missed you, and we know you are as

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<v Speaker 2>strong as ever. When I think of the day after

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<v Speaker 2>my birthday, I say to myself, is America still addicted

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<v Speaker 2>to self destruction as it undergoes this imperial breakdown and

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<v Speaker 2>spiritual melt down? And we need prophetic fight back. Everywhere

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<v Speaker 2>you look you see unbelievable breakdown. It could be this

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<v Speaker 2>violence against anybody. It could be against Jews, against black folks,

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<v Speaker 2>it could be against against white folks. We're seeing the

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<v Speaker 2>massive wave of violence across the board. And then at

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<v Speaker 2>the same time, you know, you're seeing the h the

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<v Speaker 2>gangster's being in the White House with Trump or being

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<v Speaker 2>in Israel with Nathan Y'allhu and the id F still

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<v Speaker 2>just getting away with murder, literally, getting away with genocide

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<v Speaker 2>literally and getting away symbolically lies trying to hide and

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<v Speaker 2>conceal it. And that's exactly what happens when an empire

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<v Speaker 2>begins a melt down, and chickens begin to come home

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<v Speaker 2>for the roost, and you start reaping what your soul

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<v Speaker 2>and the question becomes given the spiritual meltdown that goes

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<v Speaker 2>with that, people just kind of give up on love,

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<v Speaker 2>give up on compassion, give up on service to others. No,

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<v Speaker 2>we got a whole magnificent cloud of witnesses in the

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<v Speaker 2>American Empire who hold it on the love, justice, service

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<v Speaker 2>to others, highlighting the plight of the poor and working classes.

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<v Speaker 2>That is what you call propfhetic fight back. That's the

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<v Speaker 2>history of Black folk. Prophetic fighting back, leading with love

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<v Speaker 2>and following through with love and justice in the bleakness

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<v Speaker 2>of the moment. And there's something that we've talked about

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<v Speaker 2>over and over again on our show, and we will

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<v Speaker 2>never ever get tired of talking about, no matter how

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<v Speaker 2>bleak the moment, leading with love and following through with courage,

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<v Speaker 2>fighting for justice for pooring working people. It's not worthwhile.

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<v Speaker 2>It is the desirable way of being in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>It seems absurd, but it's the most alluring mode of

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<v Speaker 2>being precise because we wouldn't be here if the folks

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<v Speaker 2>in the past hadn't done precisely that and somebody's got

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<v Speaker 2>to do it every generation.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Amen, Amen, everything that you said, Doc, I love

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<v Speaker 1>that prophetic fight back. Got to put that in the

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<v Speaker 1>long term memory. Let that marinate. And that is the tradition,

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<v Speaker 1>the collective tradition of black people. But you can be

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<v Speaker 1>non black and still has some prophetic fight back.

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<v Speaker 2>Lord thing, it's a human thing. We just beget on

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<v Speaker 2>the track the side of town. That's how.

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<v Speaker 1>Yes, I love starting on the choclate side of Yes,

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<v Speaker 1>I do always, even with all the pain you know

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<v Speaker 1>that we face as a people, love starting on the

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<v Speaker 1>chocolate side of the town. I often, you know, asked

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<v Speaker 1>myself to queste. You know, if God said, I'll give

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<v Speaker 1>you a choice, you can come back this way, this way,

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<v Speaker 1>this way. I would still always pick, knowing everything that

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<v Speaker 1>I know, to come back as a black woman.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I ain't no doubt about that. But I wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>ask if it be Irene and Cliff as the mom

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<v Speaker 2>and dad. It's the beautiful thing being black and chocolate

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<v Speaker 2>and all. But I got my bias when it comes

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<v Speaker 2>to family. Yeah, comes to the brother Cliff and sit

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<v Speaker 2>there in Charlton, Red Willie be cook and shallow. But

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<v Speaker 2>then Lord said oh, you just want everything.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, since you get to pick some things, you

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<v Speaker 1>might as well put it all out there that you

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<v Speaker 1>want at once. You might not get it all, but

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<v Speaker 1>at least you put it out there. You're listening the

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<v Speaker 1>truth time went Dot, the Cornell fest and Nina Turner.

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<v Speaker 1>When we come forward, we are going to wrestle with

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<v Speaker 1>today's topics. Prosthetic fight bang. That is our main court today,

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<v Speaker 1>wrapping that into all of our stories so that you know.

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<v Speaker 1>The Red Cross says that at least twenty one people

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<v Speaker 1>were killed and dozen shot in a Guys of Aid incident,

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<v Speaker 1>and as the reporting goes across the board, both international

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<v Speaker 1>reporting and domestic reporting here in the United States, a

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<v Speaker 1>mass casualty influx of people, many with not just gunshot

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<v Speaker 1>wounds but also shrapnel, you know that bounces up wounds

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<v Speaker 1>were These were innocent people. These were people seeking aid,

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<v Speaker 1>people trying to provide aid. The International Committee of the

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<v Speaker 1>Red Cross said twenty one people were declared dead upon arrival,

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<v Speaker 1>while women and children were among one hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>nine cases. The organization statement came after the Israeli Defense Fund,

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<v Speaker 1>you know they are involved in this and the innocent

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<v Speaker 1>killing of civilians. And there's nothing new about this. This

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<v Speaker 1>has been going on since this war started, time and

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<v Speaker 1>time again. Doctor West and I from the beginning of

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<v Speaker 1>October seventh have said what Hamas did to those innocent

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<v Speaker 1>Israelis were wrong, no doubt about it. Here we are

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<v Speaker 1>on the other side of this and killings are still occurring.

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<v Speaker 1>I think over fifty thousand people doc have been killed.

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<v Speaker 1>That's only the numbers that they have is probably more

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<v Speaker 1>than that. And millions of people enduring famine on the

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<v Speaker 1>Palestinian side, and it just seems like there is no

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<v Speaker 1>relief in sight. Israel is definitely violating international law, and

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<v Speaker 1>in Israel, the right wing government of Israel be very specific,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's being aided in a bed by the United States,

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<v Speaker 1>starting with Biden and continuing with Trump, both presidents, both

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<v Speaker 1>US presidents.

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<v Speaker 2>No, all Trump's got to do is make a phone call.

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<v Speaker 2>They would stop. He has said, so everybody knows. So. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>But the sad thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Is is that the the ugliness and the viciousness of

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<v Speaker 3>anti Palestinian racism makes it possible for the genocide of

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<v Speaker 3>precious Palestinian people to be.

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<v Speaker 2>Right on TV, on social media, but can but not stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>People can witness it, they can behold it, but there's

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<v Speaker 2>no collective will to stop it. And what in the

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<v Speaker 2>way of it, What gets in the way of it

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<v Speaker 2>is a blind allegiance to an Israeli government that does

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<v Speaker 2>not believe that Palestinians are full fledged human being, so

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<v Speaker 2>they can be killed at Whima and massacred that way.

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<v Speaker 2>And there's a sickness. It's a spiritual what the Bible says,

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<v Speaker 2>it's a spiritual wickedness, and it's a human thing. Government

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<v Speaker 2>can have it. Israeli government doesn't have a monopoly on it.

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<v Speaker 2>Jews don't have a monopoly on it. Any human being

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<v Speaker 2>be spiritually wicked, Any government can be spiritually wicked. When

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<v Speaker 2>any government that perpetrates genocide is spiritually wicked. And United

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<v Speaker 2>States supports, sponsors, authorizes it, and no voices in Congress

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<v Speaker 2>in a collective effective way can stop it. There's two

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<v Speaker 2>voices here there. That's it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's it. And imagine, I mean, we could put

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<v Speaker 1>ourselves in the place of the Palestinians, and we would

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<v Speaker 1>want the international community to come to our aid that

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<v Speaker 1>it's important to remind our listeners, our audience, rather that

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<v Speaker 1>Israel does not allow international news organizations to come in,

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<v Speaker 1>so we're lucky to get any of the truth out

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<v Speaker 1>because they do not allow international news organizations including the BBC,

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<v Speaker 1>into Gaza, making verifying what's happening, truly happening in the

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<v Speaker 1>Gaza even that much more difficult. So the little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of news that we are getting probably only barely scratches

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<v Speaker 1>the surface when it comes to the humanitarian crisis or

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<v Speaker 1>flipped another way, the inhumanity that is happening to the

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<v Speaker 1>Palestinians in Gaza. And I mean, it's so wonder that

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<v Speaker 1>anybody is still alive. That we talk a lot about

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<v Speaker 1>the resilience of black people in this country facing so

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<v Speaker 1>much racial bigotry, a top black hatred generationally, and when

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<v Speaker 1>I look at some of the similarities again not exactly

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<v Speaker 1>the same of what the Palestinian people are going through,

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<v Speaker 1>it's just so wonder that many of them are still alive.

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<v Speaker 2>No, that's real. But I think what really brings together

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<v Speaker 2>black people and Pians historically is a degree to which

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<v Speaker 2>institutionalized hatred could be so targeted at them that nobody

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<v Speaker 2>cares when they're precious babies are killed. In the larger

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<v Speaker 2>white mainstream, the anti Palestinian racism, anti black racism. They

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<v Speaker 2>cut so deep that people just get normalized and naturalized

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<v Speaker 2>in such a way that, yeah, all these deaths are

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<v Speaker 2>taking place, that's just the way it is. All these

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<v Speaker 2>baby massacred, that's just the way it is. But if

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<v Speaker 2>it was their babies, it is not just qualitatively different,

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<v Speaker 2>but the script is completely flipped. Then the people are savages.

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<v Speaker 2>The people are doing it, are sub human. The people

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<v Speaker 2>are doing it deserve resistance. We gotta support resistance. Oh no,

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<v Speaker 2>you don't get in the Western world. You don't get

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<v Speaker 2>in in America, you don't get in the US government.

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<v Speaker 2>Any talk about resisting the id F and resisting Israel's

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<v Speaker 2>attempt to impose genociah, nick cleansing and apartheid on Palestinian's. No,

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<v Speaker 2>But if it were the other way around, Oh my god,

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<v Speaker 2>the US Congress would be in the vanguard of resisting

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<v Speaker 2>any kind of killings of white babies, European babies, or

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<v Speaker 2>Israeli Jewish babies. That's the racism. That's not just the stars.

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<v Speaker 2>That's a deep, deep racism that is not in the

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<v Speaker 2>very ways in which media presents it.

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<v Speaker 1>And speaking of the media, doct I mean I know

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<v Speaker 1>Minister Malcolm X talked about He said something like the

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<v Speaker 1>media have you love whom they will and hate whom

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<v Speaker 1>the oppressed. And my God, is that like happening. This

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening in the Congo too. We need to continue

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<v Speaker 1>to lift up. I saw a post recently by a doctor,

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<v Speaker 1>doctor Bernice King, and you know she's always lifting up

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<v Speaker 1>what's happening in the Congo, and I know we do too,

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<v Speaker 1>more than what we ordinarily do, so we'll have to

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<v Speaker 1>program that in. But it's called the Silent war, and

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<v Speaker 1>not to compare misery, misery is misery two degrees. Though,

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<v Speaker 1>and nobody's barely reporting on it, that also shows another

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<v Speaker 1>level of disregard and racism, anti black racism. To be

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<v Speaker 1>who are suffering in parts of Africa, and all of

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<v Speaker 1>of leader, can make different decisions. However, to fully understand

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<v Speaker 1>happening in the Gaza and the Palestinian Israeli relationships that

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<v Speaker 1>go back thousands of years, you know. So what is

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<v Speaker 1>the You can't understand it, you know. James Baldwin said,

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<v Speaker 1>or Minister Malcolm, but I think James Baldman says something

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<v Speaker 1>and I as students of history. We always try to

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<v Speaker 1>bring in the root cause, not justification for this kind

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<v Speaker 1>of violence and displacement of people, but it is just

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<v Speaker 1>it's really gut wrenching, and to your point that it

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<v Speaker 2>And we zero in it's a massive, colossal indictment of

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<v Speaker 2>governments and mainstream medias tell the truth about this organized

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<v Speaker 2>hatred and this weaponized greed that leads towards these kind

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<v Speaker 2>of massacres, looking for land, looking for cheap labor, looking

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<v Speaker 2>for power and position, and we know there's a human

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<v Speaker 2>in Gaza, in this case in the Congo.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah no, at that part, Doc, going back to something

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<v Speaker 1>CBS News reported about this recent killing. At least twenty

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<v Speaker 1>seven Palestinians were fatally shot at one hundred and sixty one,

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<v Speaker 1>little different, but we get the picture. One hundred and

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<v Speaker 1>controversial US back group. According to the Hamas run Gaza

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<v Speaker 1>and Israeli back Gaza Humanitarian Foundation, which I believe doctors

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<v Speaker 1>just recently created by this president mine totally blown a

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<v Speaker 1>Pay attention to what the United Nations is saying, and

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<v Speaker 1>the United Nations has been sounding the alarm since this

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<v Speaker 2>That's exactly right, over six hundred days. Jesus, United States

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<v Speaker 2>come with this little facata reminds me of the United

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<v Speaker 2>States government just a number of months ago saying, well,

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<v Speaker 2>we're gonna we're gonna build a little boat on the vote.

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<v Speaker 2>Boat is gonna throw out food for people who undergoing genocide.

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<v Speaker 2>Please please don't disrespect our intelligence like that. Same is

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<v Speaker 2>true with this little concoction. Ain't nothing but a facade,

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<v Speaker 2>Ain't nothing but a charad, a charade acting as if

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<v Speaker 2>in the last minute, we have some concern. Now now

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<v Speaker 2>they've gone around the more established institutions that providing aid

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<v Speaker 2>because they have crushed them. Unraw has been crushed by US, Israeli,

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<v Speaker 2>British forces. That's what makes it in part of genocide,

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<v Speaker 2>when you get not just the killing of the bodies,

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<v Speaker 2>but when you about you destroy all the hospital ninety

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<v Speaker 2>four of us in the hospitals, all the universities, elementary schools,

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<v Speaker 2>any of the sites that are sources of human flourishing

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<v Speaker 2>are crushed. That's what genocide years. Even the who wasn't

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<v Speaker 2>brother Homer, the former Prime Minister of Israel, said I've

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<v Speaker 2>now reached the conclusion, after this overwhelming evidence, that these

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<v Speaker 2>attacks are genocidal attacks. These are undeniable war crimes. You

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<v Speaker 2>got Matthew Hims what's his name, Matthew Miller of the

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<v Speaker 2>Biden administration. Yeah, yeah, yesterday or two days ago, and

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<v Speaker 2>the heater was telling me, yes, there's definitely war crimes

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<v Speaker 2>being committed. Well, we've been saying that for six hundred days,

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<v Speaker 2>and you call us anti Semitic. We've been trying to

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<v Speaker 2>create certain kind of encampments so that students could express

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<v Speaker 2>their moral outrage at genocide. What do you do create

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<v Speaker 2>a whole discourse attacking the students, calling them anti semitic? Why?

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<v Speaker 2>Because they're more deeply moved by anti Semitic rhetoric, which

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<v Speaker 2>is wrong than they are anti Palestinian racist behavior, which

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<v Speaker 2>is genocidal, which is pathological. They get more upset the

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<v Speaker 2>rhetoric then they do the reality. Why because they don't

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<v Speaker 2>give a damn about Palestinians. That's why.

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<v Speaker 1>Hmm. I mean you preaching doc God, that's it. And

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<v Speaker 1>I would dare any of us could be in that position.

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<v Speaker 1>And that is the thing that we got to understand.

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<v Speaker 1>When you have systems and leaders of certain powerful hegemonic

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<v Speaker 1>or Western nations deciding whose life is worthy over somebody

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<v Speaker 1>else's life, it could be the group that you're a

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<v Speaker 1>part of next, because none of this hatred, there's no

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<v Speaker 1>rhyme and reason. It's illogical, it's ill moral, it's at

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<v Speaker 1>the whim of human beings. And it could be you

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<v Speaker 1>or somebody you love next. And that's another reason, even

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<v Speaker 1>just for selfish reasons, we should care about how Western

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<v Speaker 1>nations are deciding that it's just okay to white Palestinians

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<v Speaker 1>off the map, because that's exactly what they're doing, taking

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<v Speaker 1>their homeland, their bodies, their souls. Everything. You are listening

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<v Speaker 1>to Truth Time doctor Cornell West and Nina Turner. When

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<v Speaker 1>will come forward, we will talk about the tragedies that

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<v Speaker 1>happened in Boulder, Colorado, totally unacceptable. Love and truth in indeed,

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<v Speaker 1>so DOCU labeled this that prophetic fight back, and we

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<v Speaker 1>gotta have it in every situation, especially in the face

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<v Speaker 1>of such visceral hate that is steaming full speed ahead,

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<v Speaker 1>both in this country and all around the world. We

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<v Speaker 1>were just discussing what happened in the in the gaza

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<v Speaker 1>for people who were trying to get some food, to

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<v Speaker 1>get some made, and folks were killed and folks were injured,

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<v Speaker 1>and it just makes no sense at all. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>move into Boulder, Colorado, which happened a few days ago

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<v Speaker 1>as well, where you have folks who regularly gather to

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<v Speaker 1>say released the hostage, hostage Israelily hostages and they were

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<v Speaker 1>attacked and we don't accept that at all. Should have

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<v Speaker 1>never happened. We'll talk about that. Doc is our time

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<v Speaker 1>to go into our live chat on the tube. The

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<v Speaker 1>family has gathered, they are cross pollinating among each other

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<v Speaker 1>and also they have some questions for us. So I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so excited to be back to lift this up. Culture.

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<v Speaker 1>What's up, family, Let's get it. Oh, we're trying to

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<v Speaker 1>get it. Culture. Thank you for chiming in. Blessed peacemaker.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you had a great birthday, Doctor West. Welcome back,

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Turner. So, Doc, did you have a great birthday?

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<v Speaker 2>Oh? Lord, better than I deserve it, you know how

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<v Speaker 2>correct it I am. I got so many blessing flowing.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't keep track, coping. I can't measure him by

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<v Speaker 2>any criteria. I gotta smile on my face, even in

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<v Speaker 1>Hello, somebody, that is beautiful. Blessed peacemaker. Doc said he

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<v Speaker 1>had he had more than he deserves. That's beautiful, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad to be back. You know, Doc, I was

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<v Speaker 1>in LA. Did not get a chance to get with

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<v Speaker 1>brother Tavits at all. It was a whirldwin in and out,

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<v Speaker 1>and you would know there's some hard flights because you

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<v Speaker 1>do that all the time. But I was there with

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<v Speaker 1>the organization One Fair Wage, and I encourage our audience

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<v Speaker 1>to go visit Onefairwage dot org. They are a national

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<v Speaker 1>organization fighting all across the country to lift the subminimum

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<v Speaker 1>wage in the United States of America, which by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>on average is two dollars and fifteen cents. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you are blessed enough to go to a restaurant from

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<v Speaker 1>time to time. Those servers are making on average two

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<v Speaker 1>dollars and fifteen cents and they rely on our tips

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<v Speaker 1>to subsidize their wages. That sub minimum wage is rooted

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<v Speaker 1>in slavery, meaning they got together. This industry was dominated

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<v Speaker 1>by white by I'm excuse me, by black women, and

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<v Speaker 1>the restaurant organizations or industry got together and decided that

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<v Speaker 1>black women did not deserve to get paid. They were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna have to rely on the large of tips. And

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<v Speaker 1>you fast forward to the twenty first century, but they

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<v Speaker 1>meant for evil basically towards black women. Now impacts all

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<v Speaker 1>our sisters and brothers and family and friends in that industry.

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<v Speaker 1>The vestiges are linked to anti blackness and to slavery.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go to Onefairwage dot org you can read

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<v Speaker 1>that whole history that I was just mortified by that,

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<v Speaker 1>and I've been working with one Fair Wage ever since.

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<v Speaker 1>And they had some successes coming out of La County

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<v Speaker 1>where it looks like the minimum wage itself, including tip

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<v Speaker 1>workers and also hopefully incarcerated of folks as well, is

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<v Speaker 1>going to increase. So they're launching a campaign Living Wage

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<v Speaker 1>for All. So that's where I was. I was so

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<v Speaker 1>close to brother Tavis and did not get to see him.

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<v Speaker 1>And the press conference I was at was at the

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<v Speaker 1>same time that our show starts, so that's what I

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<v Speaker 2>No, but again, our spirits were with and your spirits

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<v Speaker 2>were with us, because what you're doing dealing with this

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<v Speaker 2>issue of wage and precious working people no matter what

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<v Speaker 2>color they are. We thank God for the brother Harold

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<v Speaker 2>Myerson's and the brother Robert Cuttner's and others who's zero

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<v Speaker 2>in all the time on this issue of labor and

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<v Speaker 2>the centrality of labor and what you are doing, what

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<v Speaker 2>youration is doing, the legacy of Randolph working through you,

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<v Speaker 2>is doing that difference in the world. So we were together.

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<v Speaker 1>We were together. We were together, we were we were

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<v Speaker 1>spreading the work. You know, many hands made for light work.

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<v Speaker 1>So big shout out to Sarru who runs that organization,

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<v Speaker 1>all the other partner organizations. National Education Association, which is

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<v Speaker 1>a teacher's organization, was in the place. I mean, labor

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<v Speaker 1>was represented because sometimes the House of labor can leave

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<v Speaker 1>folks out. But it was good to see the House

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<v Speaker 1>of labor represented in that group. All kinds of activists

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<v Speaker 1>and doc I got to see my sister, who I

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<v Speaker 1>with Linda Sarsow and sister Camille Perez, and then also

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<v Speaker 1>Erica Alexander. Many of you may remember her from Living Single.

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<v Speaker 1>She's an actress and just a dear friend of mine,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had not seen her physically in a few years.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was just really great to have so many

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<v Speaker 1>people in the place fighting for workers from all backgrounds

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<v Speaker 1>all over this country. And thank you, Doc for reminding me,

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<v Speaker 1>let me lift up the freedom budget for all Americans.

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<v Speaker 1>We are fighting to create a human rights.

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<v Speaker 2>Economy that's exactly right. And these issues with the trade

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<v Speaker 2>union of the class struggles go hand in hand with

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<v Speaker 2>our critiques of imperialism and gods and congo, go hand

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<v Speaker 2>in hand with our critiques of the president industrial complex

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<v Speaker 2>and mass incarceration. It goes hand in hand with our

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<v Speaker 2>defense of our precious trands who are being demonized and

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<v Speaker 2>vilified every day. It goes hand in and with being

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<v Speaker 2>in solidarity with our Jewish brothers and sisters who being

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<v Speaker 2>viciously attacked. We know the anti Jewish hatred is as

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<v Speaker 2>evil as anti Palestinian hatred or anti black hatred or

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<v Speaker 2>anti white hatred. This is a moral and a spiritual issue.

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<v Speaker 2>But let me ask you one last question. What was

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<v Speaker 2>the Black Church in any way in on this.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I know that not directly, not at least for

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<v Speaker 1>this event. I have to ask. I think maybe in

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<v Speaker 1>some states the Black Church may be involved a little more,

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<v Speaker 1>but that is a you know what I'm gonna ask,

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<v Speaker 1>sister Sarru. How involved is the faith based community, especially

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<v Speaker 1>the Black church. That's a fascinating question. Now what made

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<v Speaker 1>you lift that up?

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<v Speaker 2>I was yourself and Randolph and Martin King and Fanny Louhima,

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<v Speaker 2>and how they always were for labor and also like people.

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<v Speaker 2>And I was wondering the degree to which other than yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>because I mean with you, there ain't that all of it,

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<v Speaker 2>but other than yourself, whether they're like black clergy folk

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<v Speaker 2>who are there in any way. It's hard to get

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<v Speaker 2>the Black church involved in these trade union issues these days,

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<v Speaker 2>it seems to me.

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<v Speaker 1>But I could be wrong, well, not an identifiable way,

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<v Speaker 1>But you bring up something that is important, which I

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<v Speaker 1>will talk to Sarru, who is the president and founder

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<v Speaker 1>of One Fair Wage, to ask the question, has the

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<v Speaker 1>organization sought to engage. Yes, faith based community, because sometimes

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<v Speaker 1>people don't know so much going on. You might not know,

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<v Speaker 1>but yes, what better. I mean, the institution of the

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<v Speaker 1>church should be there, whether it's a mosque of synagogue,

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<v Speaker 1>Christian tradition, they all should be there. Be in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of the mandates of the Christ or Buddha or Muhammad.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, all of those traditions is kind of mailed

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<v Speaker 1>together and what we should be doing in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>helping poor people, helping working people, helping oppress people. So

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<v Speaker 1>dot because of you, I'm gonna lift that up. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>gonna lift that up to Sister Saru and I'll follow

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<v Speaker 1>up with you here on the air. We got Morris Phillips,

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<v Speaker 1>Good afternoon, Doctor West and Senator Turner. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>your courage. It is an honor to be courageous in

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<v Speaker 1>the face of all of this. We got Jesse Paris

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<v Speaker 1>Akachi chag nagruma peace and much love, Doctor West and

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<v Speaker 1>Senator Nina Turner from Denver, Colorado. We appreciate that when

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<v Speaker 1>we come forward, we'll finish with we'll we'll continue your

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<v Speaker 1>comments and continue some of the topics that we've looked

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<v Speaker 1>it up. Yep, Yes, this is beautiful doctor. So you

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<v Speaker 1>know what, throughout the show, our audience has been hearing

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<v Speaker 1>the ads about the anniversary that's coming up. So Doctor

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<v Speaker 1>West and I want to add some more to this.

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<v Speaker 1>Our KBLA Talk fifteen eighty fourth anniversary events are fast

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<v Speaker 1>approaching and seating at all four of our special events

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<v Speaker 1>is getting tight, meaning come on, don't wait till the

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<v Speaker 1>last minute. If you want to show your face in

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<v Speaker 1>the place, you need to sign up. You have to

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<v Speaker 1>register at our KBLA fifteen eighty dot com website. Make

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<v Speaker 1>sure that you register. You're not gonna miss this and

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<v Speaker 1>if if not, let me encourage you. If you haven't

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<v Speaker 1>done it, you need to go on and stop and

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<v Speaker 1>do that right now, because we don't want you left

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<v Speaker 1>out of this party. Doc, you gonna be there. Jesse

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<v Speaker 1>Jackson Junior is gonna be there. Of course, Brother Tavis.

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<v Speaker 2>Is gonna be there.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean a whole host of folks are going to

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<v Speaker 1>be there our fourth anniversary and we want you there

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<v Speaker 1>to celebrate that with us. So if you're planning, if

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<v Speaker 1>you are planning to join us for that fourth anniversary

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<v Speaker 1>celebration and barbecue on the Juneteenth holiday, we're asking you

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<v Speaker 1>We're asking everybody to bring a food gift card from

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<v Speaker 1>any place you choose, on any amount, so that those

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<v Speaker 1>gift cards may be given out to the victims of

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<v Speaker 1>the Altadena fire because they're still suffering. They're suffering is

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<v Speaker 1>not over, and we can help lift a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>of that burden. So if you plan on coming to

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<v Speaker 1>the celebration, the barbecue, all that good stuff, make sure

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<v Speaker 1>you bring a gift card and of any amount, any

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<v Speaker 1>amount that you can afford. The sacrifice would be so helpful,

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<v Speaker 1>Be grateful for whatever you can do, and just go

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<v Speaker 1>ahead sign up. Don't forget now. It's free to attend,

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<v Speaker 1>but seating is limited. So I mean, I don't think

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<v Speaker 1>folks they don't want to be left out.

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<v Speaker 2>And ain't nothing wrong with standing either. They can come

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<v Speaker 2>aste just like a friend's concert. A bit.

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<v Speaker 1>True that, Doc, ain't nothing wrong with standing. If you

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<v Speaker 1>could do it, you go ahead on the stand. So

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<v Speaker 1>please make sure that you sign up. Go to the

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<v Speaker 1>KBLA fifteen eighty dot com website and sign up. Back

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<v Speaker 1>to our comments, So fuck we got a good quite

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<v Speaker 1>so a lot of birthday wishes to you, Doc. So

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<v Speaker 1>for all our people in the chat who are wistening,

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<v Speaker 1>wishing doctor West a happy birthday. I'm just gonna blanket

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<v Speaker 1>that a lot of love for you and your birthday.

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<v Speaker 1>And then we have culture has a question for both

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<v Speaker 1>of us, Senator Turner, doctor West, how do you maintain

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<v Speaker 1>your authenticity in a political party and not conform to

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<v Speaker 1>code switching. I do not see many politicians embracing their culture.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you for doing so.

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<v Speaker 2>I should allow you to answer that. Ah Ya, I

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<v Speaker 2>should pray that you would answer that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I just hey, you gotta take me as I am.

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<v Speaker 1>I learned that a long time ago. You know, Frederick

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<v Speaker 1>Douglass had a quote about abhorns of self if you

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<v Speaker 1>are not true to yourself, and I got to sleep

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<v Speaker 1>with myself. I gotta wake up with myself. I believe

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<v Speaker 1>I got a answer to a higher power. And therefore

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<v Speaker 1>none of that selling out stuff is worth it, and

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<v Speaker 1>especially at this age and this stage of my life,

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<v Speaker 1>it is.

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<v Speaker 2>Not worth it.

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<v Speaker 1>And to genuinely be black in America is also a

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<v Speaker 1>type of resistance. When we come forward, we're gonna get

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<v Speaker 1>doctor West to answer to that question. Thank you for

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<v Speaker 1>that culture. You're listening to truth Time. Oh you know what, Doc,

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<v Speaker 1>I forgot no more breaks, no more breaks, no more

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<v Speaker 1>breaks until the end. Oh my god, brother Miles told

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<v Speaker 1>me that I'm just so programmed looking at that clock.

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<v Speaker 1>We can keep going. So like in the in the

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<v Speaker 1>Democratic Party, is it's not worth me not being me?

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<v Speaker 1>And I catch hell for it? You know it's not.

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<v Speaker 1>It's not easy. I mean, there's pushback for me being me,

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<v Speaker 1>being authentically who I am in my blackness. But I

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<v Speaker 1>don't care, I brother face they push their pushback than

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<v Speaker 1>to not be able to live with myself for being

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<v Speaker 1>a strong, blo black woman that I am. Your thoughts

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<v Speaker 1>on that doc. I know you're not of this party,

545
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<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean, You're independent. So the culture's

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<v Speaker 1>question was about the party itself, so.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, one of the beautiful things. But the Tavis

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<v Speaker 2>station here fifteen eighty is that it is a species

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<v Speaker 2>of prophetic fight back, precisely because you have to be unapologetic.

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<v Speaker 2>And when you're unapologetic, it means you take off your

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<v Speaker 2>deodorized surface and be your funky self. And when you

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<v Speaker 2>being your funky self, that is a very source of

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<v Speaker 2>your joy, that's the source of your strength, that's the

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<v Speaker 2>source of your power. Why would anybodynate themselves from their

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<v Speaker 2>own joy. Well, if you ain't gonna be yourself and

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<v Speaker 2>wear your mask your whole life, then you lose sight

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<v Speaker 2>of what your face really looked like.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, through that you do and it's hard, but it's

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<v Speaker 1>worth it. It's worth the fight back. No, it's good.

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<v Speaker 1>It's a prophetic fight back. That's how we do it.

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<v Speaker 1>You some that of shap all of you and all

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<v Speaker 1>your questions and just everything that people are saying. So

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<v Speaker 1>that we were talking about, we talked about what just

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<v Speaker 1>happened in Gazo. We kind of alluded to a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit about what happened in Bouldered those attacks. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was an assault on a group of Jewish people primarily

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<v Speaker 1>who gather to support the Israeli hostages. It was in Bolder, Colorado.

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<v Speaker 1>They do this on a regular basis. So this person,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, picked up on the habit and just went

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<v Speaker 1>in there and and targeted them. This was truly anti Semitism.

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<v Speaker 1>The violence you know that that these people face is unacceptable, unacceptable.

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<v Speaker 1>You can be in support of our sisters and brothers

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<v Speaker 1>and family and friends in the Gaza, support Palestinian lives,

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<v Speaker 1>but what you cannot do is then go in and

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<v Speaker 1>cause violence and chaos and pain to innocent people who

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<v Speaker 1>have a different view than yours.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely, absolutely, that just the moral question. The killing of

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<v Speaker 2>an innocent life is murder. Murder is murdering a matter

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<v Speaker 2>under such oventation and national identity of the human being involved.

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<v Speaker 2>And we've got to fight all forms of racism. There's

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<v Speaker 2>just no doubt about that. That's just a moral and

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<v Speaker 2>the spiritual question, very much so.

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<v Speaker 1>And we call the question all the time.

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<v Speaker 2>Absoluh. Yeah, No, We're gonna be true to our sense

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<v Speaker 2>of morality and spirituality. That's part of what it means

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<v Speaker 2>to be true to your authenticity. We understand context now

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<v Speaker 2>we know of you got twenty thousand Palestinian babies who

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<v Speaker 2>are killed, and it looks there's no accountability whatsoever. There's

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<v Speaker 2>gonna be some people who come out swinging. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>that's a human response. Every human response is not the

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<v Speaker 2>moral response, but it's a human resc We don't provide

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<v Speaker 2>excuses for killing innocent folks, no, not at all, not

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<v Speaker 2>at all. We don't want to revamped the cycle of

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<v Speaker 2>violence and hatred that we see that is in some ways,

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<v Speaker 2>in so many ways. Of course, it's much more predominant

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<v Speaker 2>on the side of the powerful. That's true for white supremacists,

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<v Speaker 2>it's true for imperialists, it's true for patriarchs, and it's

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<v Speaker 2>true in this case for Israel visa beit the Palestinians.

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<v Speaker 2>That doesn't mean jack innocent Jewish brothers and sisters, not

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<v Speaker 2>just here in the United States but anywhere in the world.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just wrong.

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<v Speaker 1>That's exactly right, Doc, So we definitely condemn that. It

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<v Speaker 1>shouldn't never happened, and thought some prayers to that community,

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<v Speaker 1>that whole community. Everybody's impacted by some people more directly,

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<v Speaker 1>some indirectly, but we're all impacted by it. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>move into New York. So could ranked choice voting make

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<v Speaker 1>a socialist New York City's mayor? This is coming from

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<v Speaker 1>the FP Press. The Free Press advocates claim ranked choice

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<v Speaker 1>voting would move politics to the center. Now, it might

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<v Speaker 1>help elect the most radical mayor in New York City history.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, sometimes our people use radical as a negative.

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<v Speaker 1>Radical just really means getting at the route. But you

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<v Speaker 1>got this young brother, brother Zoran, holding it down in

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<v Speaker 1>New York. Doc, talk to us about it.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, No, I'm sitting here looking at Harlem right here

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<v Speaker 2>in one hundred and twenty third Street, no doubt about that.

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<v Speaker 2>We're gonna see what happened. It's a fascinating situation and configuration.

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<v Speaker 1>Who it is that was in.

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<v Speaker 2>This situation, it's a fascinating one, it really is. But

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<v Speaker 2>we also got to realize is that it's like when

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<v Speaker 2>we sat down back in the eighties with David Dinkins

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<v Speaker 2>when he won. Is the first black mayor. The permanent

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<v Speaker 2>government of New York City is Wall Street.

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<v Speaker 1>Woo he is ooh oh, we that we We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>have to let that mayor, let that marinate for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>In other words, that system is gonna do everything in

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<v Speaker 1>its power to try to prevent this young man from winning.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad that ranked choice voting is a tool that

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<v Speaker 1>can be used by the masses of people to try

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<v Speaker 1>to get closer to the type of candidate that they want.

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<v Speaker 1>And he got him nervous. He's shaking him up, him

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<v Speaker 1>and his supporters. So New York y'all keep doing the

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<v Speaker 1>dagone thing. This has been pure joy. We want you

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<v Speaker 1>to live on purpose, live your purpose, understand your purpose.

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<v Speaker 1>But above all, titles are good, but purpose is better.

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<v Speaker 1>Until next time
