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<v Speaker 1>Welcome, welcome, Welcome to the third hour of the show.

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<v Speaker 1>And that spooky music means it's spooky time, it's Halloween time,

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<v Speaker 1>and that means the return of something. Anthony, my producer,

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<v Speaker 1>loves me not so much. I don't like being scared

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<v Speaker 1>the bejeebers out of me, and that's what they do

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<v Speaker 1>at the thirteenth Floor. Joining me now the general manager

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<v Speaker 1>Brian Kopp, to talk about what you can expect if

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<v Speaker 1>you're among the maniacs who love to be scared to

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<v Speaker 1>death for fun. Brian, first of all, welcome to the show.

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<v Speaker 2>Hi, thanks for having me.

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<v Speaker 1>So thirteenth Floor has been around for I don't even

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<v Speaker 1>I feel like they've been around for a long time

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<v Speaker 1>now how many how many years? Excz eighteenth season? Why

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<v Speaker 1>the thirteenth floor? Do you know why that got started?

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<v Speaker 1>In that? Why was it? Why was that the theme

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<v Speaker 1>or the name?

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<v Speaker 2>There's if you go to like an old building and

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the elevator, a lot of times you

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<v Speaker 2>won't see a thirteenth floor goes from twelve to fourteen

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<v Speaker 2>because of like unlucky thirteen and then like bad things

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<v Speaker 2>would happen on that floor. So I always thought that

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<v Speaker 2>was like a fun bit of lore to kind of develop.

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<v Speaker 2>So the idea is all of those terrible scary things

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<v Speaker 2>that happened on the thirteenth floor of all these different buildings,

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<v Speaker 2>well they're all here under one roof, at the thirteenth

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<v Speaker 2>floor Haunted House.

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<v Speaker 1>So, Brian, how does one decide when you're, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>getting into your career, you know what I want to do.

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<v Speaker 1>I want to work at haunted houses, because that's what

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<v Speaker 1>you show us at some point, like what led you there?

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<v Speaker 2>I was a seasonal scare actor. I've always you know,

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<v Speaker 2>had a love of Halloween and horror, and I love

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<v Speaker 2>acting and special effects makeup, and that was always something

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<v Speaker 2>that I would pursue. So it was like a fun

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<v Speaker 2>seasonal job where I get to turn one of my

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<v Speaker 2>favorite holidays from you know, a day or a weekend

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<v Speaker 2>a celebration too. I get to do it every weekend

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<v Speaker 2>for like a month. And as I was in the

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<v Speaker 2>right place at the right time, and thirteenth Floor kind

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<v Speaker 2>of spawned this incredible Haunted house empire and we grew

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<v Speaker 2>and have haunted houses all over the country, and eventually

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<v Speaker 2>I was offered an opportunity to run my own thirteenth

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<v Speaker 2>Floor show in Chicago. I ran thirteen for Chicago and

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<v Speaker 2>the old Joliet Haunted Prison. Oh nice, and I'm here

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<v Speaker 2>at where it all started.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, so let's talk about what the attraction features this year.

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<v Speaker 1>What do you have a theme every year that you

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<v Speaker 1>sort of adhere to that informs the storytelling because honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>like a hunted house is kind of.

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<v Speaker 2>A story right, Yeah, it's improvisational theater, it's immersive theater.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, every attraction always has a unique theme. Every year.

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<v Speaker 2>It will have, you know, kind of a focal point character,

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<v Speaker 2>and that theme, as you said, you know, kind of

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<v Speaker 2>informs the creative processes. We're designing new scares and new

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<v Speaker 2>rooms in that particular attraction, as we're designing the characters,

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<v Speaker 2>the costumes, the makeup design, the sound design and music

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<v Speaker 2>that we play in those attractions. So this we have

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<v Speaker 2>the Legend of the Thirteenth Floor, which features one of

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<v Speaker 2>our original classic characters, mister Hollows.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh little Ichabod crane situation going on here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and then the second attraction is Twilight of the Damned,

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<v Speaker 3>featuring this scary witch named Orla who has cursed everyone

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<v Speaker 3>with eternal insomnia driving the mat.

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<v Speaker 1>I think I know her. As a matter of fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I think I met her a long time ago, and

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<v Speaker 1>I'd like to have a word right now. But you

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<v Speaker 1>guys actually have a third part of the attraction this year.

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<v Speaker 1>Tell me about that.

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<v Speaker 2>So for the first time ever, we have three attractions,

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<v Speaker 2>so we've drastically increased the size of the Haunted House.

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<v Speaker 2>Your ticket gets you into all three. So the new

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<v Speaker 2>one is outside in our midway, and it's bigger than

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<v Speaker 2>the other attractions, and it is called the Bloodshed.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh of course, of course. Let me guess it looks

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<v Speaker 1>like a shed on the outside. Not scary at all, Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>not scary at all. Like just put these people in

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<v Speaker 1>the horror movie. Let's hide from the maniac by going

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<v Speaker 1>in the shed full of chainsaws. That's kind of what

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<v Speaker 1>we're going after. Is that the theme here exactly right?

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<v Speaker 1>All right, don't go here. It's like you've been here

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<v Speaker 1>all you know, you what it is. Here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be perfectly frank here, Brian. I'm fifty six

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<v Speaker 1>years old, and when I was younger, I allowed myself

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<v Speaker 1>to be talked into going to things like haunted houses.

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<v Speaker 1>And as soon as I left the Haunted House, I

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<v Speaker 1>said the exact same thing. I blanking hated that. I

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<v Speaker 1>never want to do that again, and yet peer pressure

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<v Speaker 1>being what it was for many years. So I've been

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<v Speaker 1>to haunted houses. I know what they're about. I'm one

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<v Speaker 1>of those people. I don't like to be scared. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't like to be startled, so haunted houses are not

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<v Speaker 1>for me. Now a Rod, my compatriot here, the exact opposite.

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<v Speaker 1>He loves it all. He loves to scare people, he

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<v Speaker 1>loves to be scared, and he has a question. What's

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<v Speaker 1>your question?

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<v Speaker 4>Yes, so, Brian, obviously I know first and experience that

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<v Speaker 4>this is one of the best haunted houses in the

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<v Speaker 4>entire country, if not the world.

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<v Speaker 2>I know.

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<v Speaker 4>USA Today named it the top five in the top

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<v Speaker 4>five for most terrifying haunted houses this year, and it

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<v Speaker 4>always is. And I've seen that firsthand, just with the

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<v Speaker 4>investment and the care and the actors in the sets,

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<v Speaker 4>in the stories you guys tell this year. Specifically, what

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<v Speaker 4>would you point to what makes it a top five

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<v Speaker 4>this year?

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<v Speaker 2>Specifically when I moved here from Chicago and met the

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<v Speaker 2>team that's been in place here. A lot of these

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<v Speaker 2>people are like veterans that have done many many seasons

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<v Speaker 2>here over the years. There's so much like thoughtfulness and

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<v Speaker 2>care and passion from the staff that go into every

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<v Speaker 2>aspect of this, Like not just like the makeup and

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<v Speaker 2>the acting, Like, yeah, there's lots of great actors, and

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<v Speaker 2>we train all summer long to get the actors ready

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<v Speaker 2>to go. You know, it's makeup workshops. But I mean

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<v Speaker 2>even just like the staff guiding people into line, the

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<v Speaker 2>scenic design, the carpentry, Like, there's just so much passion

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<v Speaker 2>that goes into creating it. I feel like you every aspect,

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<v Speaker 2>everything that you look at when you're here, you can

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<v Speaker 2>see a little bit of that, and I think that

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<v Speaker 2>goes such a long way to making it such like

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<v Speaker 2>a fun, exciting and special experience.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you're the only person that's gonna all to see this,

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<v Speaker 4>but I'm holding out a picture to you now. If

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<v Speaker 4>you want someone else that cares about what they do

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<v Speaker 4>in scaring people, you know who to call right here,

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<v Speaker 4>My friend.

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<v Speaker 1>Really do need to leave? You got to get you

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<v Speaker 1>back here, And I'm gonna okay, can we just stop

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<v Speaker 1>calling them scare actors and just shorten it to scacters?

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I feel like that's tight. You know, It's

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<v Speaker 1>like we got our skecters here. There are scare actors.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that there should be a cameo role for

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<v Speaker 1>Anthony in this, and I see you as being part

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<v Speaker 1>of the Ichabod Crane vibe a little bit, maybe with

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<v Speaker 1>a frilly caller and puffy sleeves, something along those lines.

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<v Speaker 1>You know, he loves the clown thing and the clown

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<v Speaker 1>thing just it just freaks me out. I'm not happy

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<v Speaker 1>about that at all.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the place for him. We just opened a new

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<v Speaker 2>upsell attraction outside as well, like a little extra ticketed

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<v Speaker 2>thing called clown Chaos.

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<v Speaker 1>Ah. Yeah, I remember that last year. Yes, that was sparticular.

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<v Speaker 2>This is totally rebuilt from the ground up, so it

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<v Speaker 2>was like the same concept of clowns and fun, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's a totally redesigned experience.

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<v Speaker 1>I was actually going to ask that question specifically, and

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<v Speaker 1>you mentioned that you have a team of people that

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<v Speaker 1>are working on concepts and things like that. How much

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<v Speaker 1>attention or care is paid to making sure that it's

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<v Speaker 1>not exactly the same while still maintaining maybe the super

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<v Speaker 1>popular parts of the Haunted House. I mean, I'm you know,

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<v Speaker 1>Universal Studios in Orlando. I lived there for ten years

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<v Speaker 1>I because of my radio gig, had to go to

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween Horror Nights and one of their big attractions that

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<v Speaker 1>they have is the lady who lays in the coffin

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<v Speaker 1>with all the roaches crawling over her. And I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>like hard Pass, I've lived in Florida my whole life.

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<v Speaker 1>I've had roaches. I don't want them. But are there

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<v Speaker 1>sort of those cornerstone pieces of your haunted house that

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<v Speaker 1>appear year after year?

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<v Speaker 2>There are, Yeah, there are certain things that people they get.

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<v Speaker 2>You got to give them what they want, and I

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<v Speaker 2>think it's important to make sure that there's there's something

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<v Speaker 2>fresh every year. We tell different stories, we have different characters,

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<v Speaker 2>but those characters can still exist in environments that people like,

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<v Speaker 2>really love. Like we have a tilt rem that is

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<v Speaker 2>an absolute fan favorite that really like disorients people and

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<v Speaker 2>it's super fun and like that's not going anywhere anytime soon.

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<v Speaker 2>We might retheme it, we might change what you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to experience, but it's still going to be the same.

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<v Speaker 2>Like core fun gag of you walking through this tilt Rem.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, chainsaws are all You got to find a

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<v Speaker 2>place for the chainsaw. You're gonna get people like where's

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<v Speaker 2>the chainsaw?

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<v Speaker 1>There was no chain saw? That was so disappointed with

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<v Speaker 1>no change is yeah, there you go. H Okay, So

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<v Speaker 1>what age group is this appropriate for? Because that's the

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<v Speaker 1>question I always get from people, is like, can't I

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<v Speaker 1>take my seven year old? So what are you guys

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<v Speaker 1>looking at? Age? You know, age wise?

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<v Speaker 2>The recommendation is treat it like a PG. Thirteen movie.

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<v Speaker 2>Thirteen and up is what we would recommend. That being said,

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<v Speaker 2>kids younger and younger every single year seem to really

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<v Speaker 2>love this stuff more and more. If you want to

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<v Speaker 2>bring your seven year old and you think that it's

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<v Speaker 2>not too intense for them, that's up to you. You know,

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<v Speaker 2>there is disturbing imagery. There's there's blood's gore. So it's

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<v Speaker 2>definitely not for every seven year old, but there. I

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<v Speaker 2>mean we we had a birthday party for like nine

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<v Speaker 2>year olds not that long ago, and they were obsessed

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<v Speaker 2>with it.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, these kids today, That's all I can say

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<v Speaker 1>about that. Somebody from our text line, our Common Spirit

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<v Speaker 1>Health text line at five six six nine, Oh Mandy,

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<v Speaker 1>please ask your guest if there's an element of a

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<v Speaker 1>haunted house that most people find terrifying, is there is

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<v Speaker 1>there one thing that just cuts across everybody and and

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<v Speaker 1>scares the bejievas out of everybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, yeah, it's it's that's why you always have

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<v Speaker 2>to have a chainsaw in there, because that's one where

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<v Speaker 2>it it gets somebody just about every single time, creating

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<v Speaker 2>a situation where you go from someplace kind of light

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<v Speaker 2>to all of a sudden you can't really see what's

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<v Speaker 2>in front of you, you know, playing with that, like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, innate psychological fear of the dark and the

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<v Speaker 2>unknown is part of the design of a lot of

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<v Speaker 2>aspects of the Haunted House that gets people just about

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<v Speaker 2>every single time. Clowns is another really popular one which

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<v Speaker 2>I've never really understood. Like I've never found clowns particularly scary,

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<v Speaker 2>but like I'm definitely in the minority.

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<v Speaker 4>You just haven't come across the right to have somebody

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<v Speaker 4>come and test that theory.

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<v Speaker 1>This is why I have to put up with Brian. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's what I somebody else suggested. Instead of scacters, we

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<v Speaker 1>can go scharacters, which I kind of like. Characters is good.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm just trying to make things easy and less promost

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<v Speaker 1>I've got a link on the blog for the thirteenth floor.

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<v Speaker 1>You can go ahead, buy your Tay's they're going just

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<v Speaker 1>beyond Halloween. But I will say this last year, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we interviewed someone more in the middle of October,

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<v Speaker 1>and like the dates towards Halloween were sold out by

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<v Speaker 1>the time we had somebody on. So if you do

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<v Speaker 1>want to go right around Halloween, you're gonna want to

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<v Speaker 1>buy your tickets, Like now, is that fair to say?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah? And know that if you go in one of

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<v Speaker 2>those days, like I mean, there's gonna be there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many people. It is such a popular event. So if

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<v Speaker 2>you would prefer to have you know, a little bit uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, more of a private, unique experience than get

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<v Speaker 2>those time slots on those weekdays that are starting to

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<v Speaker 2>get added to the calendar, and you know that might

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<v Speaker 2>be more your comp of tea. Some people love going

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<v Speaker 2>when you know there's tons of people there though, makes

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<v Speaker 2>them feel more safe.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, I mean what I again, I'm not sure demographic.

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<v Speaker 1>Somebody just asked, what's the craziest response that you guys

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<v Speaker 1>have had? Have you had people pass out? Have you

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<v Speaker 1>had people have a more dramatic response? I mean, what,

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<v Speaker 1>what kind of stuff do you do you sort of prepare.

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<v Speaker 2>For every year we have we have people that you know,

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<v Speaker 2>sometimes we need to we need to, uh, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>get the emt over there to take a look at them. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 2>panic attacks, people passing out.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine why I don't want to go to this.

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<v Speaker 1>I I would be in that panic attack like passing

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<v Speaker 1>out category. So it's just it's just not my thing.

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<v Speaker 4>You got me thinking, Mandy Brand, Have you guys consider

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<v Speaker 4>because I've seen other haunts across the country, do this

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<v Speaker 4>new offering where people can wear this really bright glow

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<v Speaker 4>up necklace that let alerts the actors to not scare them.

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<v Speaker 4>Those people are just there to see the visuals, but

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<v Speaker 4>not necessarily for the scares. That's something you guys have

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<v Speaker 4>ever considered offering to your paper light?

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<v Speaker 2>Is that what you're calling it? Tried like the it

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<v Speaker 2>was like a necklace and it was like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>basically like scare light. We've also tried like behind the

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<v Speaker 2>screens tours where like maybe the haunted house is too

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<v Speaker 2>much for you, but you do appreciate the artistry of that.

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<v Speaker 2>I would do so that we bring you out during

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<v Speaker 2>the day. You'll get a guided tour. You know, somebody

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<v Speaker 2>like myself. That's renowledgeable, you know in why we made

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<v Speaker 2>this and what's the lord and the concept behind this?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, what's the backstory? And those were pretty popular.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we're not doing it this year, but

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<v Speaker 2>we might bring that back at some point. That was

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<v Speaker 2>pretty popular.

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<v Speaker 1>I would totally do that. I mean, but I'm the

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<v Speaker 1>person on a cruise ship who does the behind the

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<v Speaker 1>scenes ship tour too, you know, so I like to

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<v Speaker 1>see how everything works. I just don't want to be startled. Guys,

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<v Speaker 1>get your tickets. What's the final date, Brian for this?

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<v Speaker 1>What's your last date?

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<v Speaker 2>Eight weekend of November.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, second weekend of November, So but go ahead. I

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<v Speaker 1>would say, if you want to go around Halloween, I

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<v Speaker 1>think we were like October fifteenth ish last year when

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<v Speaker 1>we interviewed you guys, and all of this stuff around

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<v Speaker 1>Halloween was sold out. So if you want to go

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<v Speaker 1>around Halloween and you want to make it part of

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<v Speaker 1>your Halloween night, you're gonna want to buy those tickets

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<v Speaker 1>like now, And I put a link on the blog today.

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<v Speaker 4>Brian.

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<v Speaker 1>I appreciate so much what you do, and I cannot

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<v Speaker 1>tell you how much my producer loves what you guys,

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<v Speaker 1>do and uh, and I'm sure you're going to scare

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<v Speaker 1>the crap out of tons of people this season. And

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<v Speaker 1>when you bring back those behind the scenes tours, sign

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<v Speaker 1>your girl up right here because I will absolutely do that.

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<v Speaker 1>And as long as nobody jumps out at me, because

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<v Speaker 1>I might punch someone at My reflexes are slow, but

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<v Speaker 1>they're not that slow. So I appreciate you making time

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<v Speaker 1>for us today, Brian.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, thanks for having me. Happy Halloween.