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get to know the foe BYU versus Utah, the Holy War.

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We love this rivalry. It's it's one of the best one,

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I think. Finally, the national media and the national college

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football audiences, they're finally realizing now that both teams are

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in the same conference at the P four level and

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their rank, just how unique and singular this robbery is.

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They're being introduced to it at a high level and can't.

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Speaker 1: Wait to see how this particular.

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Speaker 2: Game turns out, how the the oblong shaped ball bounces

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this particular weekend.

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seven hundred, The real oc Sean O'Connell's on the line.

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Speaker 1: What's up, Sean.

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Speaker 3: It's Holy War Week, the best week of the year

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in the Utah sports Callum, we got what's a little

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over twenty four hours to wait for kickoff? It's like

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Christmas in October. Great stuff, bro, Like I.

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Speaker 2: Just don't think that the national media really knows what

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this rivalry is all about. Like they're starting to kind

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of grasp hold, Like Dave Poytnoy has been retweeting some

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of these things, like there was a young man arrested

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for like threatening to kill people. I mean, there's not

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things that we're trying to celebrate here, but it's insane

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what has occurred last year. Right, Mark carl runs onto

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the football field with time remaining and is barking at

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the refs. He goes to the press conference and gives

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a five minute rant. There's a water bottle thrown from

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the stands that knocks out a cheerleader. We have the

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old school like two thousand game or whatever, where cheerleader

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tackled by a BYU fan. The cheerleader beats him up.

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Like you just go down the list of things the

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quotes that the rivalry nationally is starting to get known,

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and I think it's going to be considered one of

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the best rivalry games in college football in the years

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to come. Give me your thoughts on the unique and

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singular nature of this rivalry.

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Speaker 4: Well, I think you're absolutely right, You're spot on. It

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should be thought of.

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Speaker 3: That on that level Nationally, it is unique for a

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lot of different reasons because of you know, the religious

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element to it, which makes it a more of a

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passion point for a lot of people. And I guess

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we'd have to go through all the other coaching staffs

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and all the other rivalry games, and all the other

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rosters and all the other rivalry games. But the incestuous

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nature of this thing makes it so close to home

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for everybody. I mean, I don't know how common it

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is for Alabama coaches to have played at Auburn or

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vice versa. I don't know how common it is for, like,

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you know, a Tennessee coach to have really come up

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and cut his teeth in a floor at a system

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or a Notre Dame in USC to have that kind

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of crossover. Those are all great rivalries. But the proximity

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and the fact that somebody on both of these both

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sides of everything, right, somebody has it uncle le grandpa,

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a dad, a mom whose alma.

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Speaker 4: Mater was the rival school. It's just it's awesome.

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Speaker 3: It's so passionate, and it is statistically one of the

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closest rivalries from a one score game perspective. I just

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learned this fact yesterday that in the last thirty years,

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nineteen of those games have been one score games, which

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is most in the country for any rivalry games. So

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the fact that finally it's getting a little bit of

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natural attention, it's ranked versus ranked conference championship implications, just

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like when both teams were back in the Mountain West,

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but this time on a Power five stage. I guess

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we have to stay Power four now. It just makes

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it that much better, and you know we're getting attention.

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Big noon kickoff is going to be there. Give the

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country just a little glimpse into how as that this

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Speaker 4: It's amazing.

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Speaker 2: Why is Utah favored in this game? Why will you know?

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this game at Lavelle Edward Stadium.

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Speaker 3: In your opinion, I think that people are still convinced

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that Utah's got one of the best offensive lines in

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the country. And I think that there's skepticism that BYU

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is tested at the same level to this point, and

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some of that has justified, some of it probably isn't.

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I also think that sportsbooks don't love freshman quarterbacks and

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bear Backmeyer has certainly outperformed a lot of expectations and

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is starting to play himself out of the Well, you're

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a freshman quarterback, so you're going to make mistakes conversations.

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his career. And I think that those are the reasons

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why people feel like you thought should be the favorite

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in this game. Anyone who pays attention to it, anyone

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who knows looks at three and a half points on

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the road in Utah's favor according to the books, and

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you're just like, man, this this feels like one of

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those games where they're so evenly matched. All of the

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other numbers show that they're pretty evenly matched, and more

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often than not, this comes down to a turnover here,

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a block something there, a penalty flag is with the

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case in last year's game that either gets thrown or doesn't,

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and then you know a kick is made and b

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WHYU ends up with a road win. So it feels

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more like that type of a game to me than

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even three and a half points in Utah's favor, which,

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of course for a road game, means that Vegas thinks

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that Utah is like almost a touchdown favorite. And I

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don't know how confident I feel in that from.

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Speaker 2: An analytics standpoint. Maybe when you compare contrast objective data points, productivity, efficiency,

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strength of schedule, what do you see on that front?

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Speaker 1: Have you delved into any of that on your On

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your show this week.

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Speaker 3: I've been doing over the numbers more from like a hey,

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because I do believe that that's where games like this

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Speaker 4: Line of scrimmage, to lean into.

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Speaker 3: The old cliche, and then the big time impact plays

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that are made when you start your drive on a

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short field and those are often turnovers. Of course, those

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are often you know, the the strip sack and the

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quick change type plays, and you know they kind of

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Speaker 4: Of those numbers. The most hilarious one that I.

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Speaker 3: That I dived into today on my show these quarterbacks.

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You might know the answer to this already, because I

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know you do your research a lot. So total yard

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is two deal turn quarterbacks squaring off. Do you know

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what the gutting for a total yard and standpoint responsible

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for a past How these guys? How many yards these

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each of these quarterbacks are accounting for on average so

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Speaker 1: Sorry, Sean, you're kind of cutting out a little bit.

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Speaker 2: I don't know if we need to reconnect, getting a

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little bit robotic that may be on our end. I

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don't know if Zach if we want to, you know, reconnect,

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but let's just reconnect really quick and then he can

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pose that same question to us about the quarterbacks. I

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did to hear that, you know, comparing maybe contrasting these

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two quarterbacks and what they do well. So Shawn back

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with us now, then yeah, you sound a lot better

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so you can hear me.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, you.

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Speaker 2: Got a little bit robotic there, So it could have

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been on our end as well. So go ahead and

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restate that question.

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Speaker 3: Okay, So, so I was going, I was looking at,

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you know, baar Bachmeyer versus Devin Dampier, even though that's

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not the matchup, that that's the dual, Right, Sure, Devin

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Dampier is responsible for two and fifty one and a

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half yards per game on average so far this year.

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How many do you think that bear Bachmeyer's accounting for

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total offense rushing, passing yards, et cetera. Two fifty one

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and a half for Devin Dan Pierre. How many yards

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do you think separate him and bear Bachmeyer?

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Speaker 1: Gosh, it's got to be pretty close.

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Speaker 2: I mean because Bear's thrown for what twelve hundred and

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then rush for about three hundred, So I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: It's pretty god to stay close.

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Speaker 3: It's literally one yard. It's two fifty one and a

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half versus two fifty two and a half, right, Like God,

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these teams are not just brothers battling it out. They

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are twin brothers battling it out. And there's always one twin.

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If you grew up with knowing any twins, if there's

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twins in your family, you always know that there's one

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who's just slightly better at everything than the other, especially

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with athletics. And that's that's what we're trying to find

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out at Labella Eedwards Stadium. Which of these twin brothers

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is the better brother? The one that's an inch taller,

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has you know, the straighter teeth, runs a little bit faster.

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Speaker 2: Let me ask you this over the last fifteen years,

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maybe less than that. So, like let's go back to

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like you know, in the twelve years or so, where

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where BYU was an independent before they got the invite

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to the Big twelve and received additional resources, additional investment internally,

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and then NIL kicked in and allowed them to be

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even more competitive. So Utah fansine media over the last

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decade plus have cited.

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Speaker 1: Talent gap as the reason why Utah.

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Speaker 2: Is beating BYU year over year with the nine straight wins.

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Do you still think that is a true statement that

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there's still a talent gap between Utah and BYU, or

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as BYU ultimately closed that gap and they are equivalents

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and twin brothers.

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Speaker 3: I don't know that. Maybe maybe when you get down

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into like the twos and threes, you could you could

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start to try to make a case for talent gap.

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I think that the things that you mentioned have closed

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it and closed it rapidly. I also think that it

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was overblown in the first place to say that one

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was significantly more talented than the other. I mean by

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you starting to win these recruiting battles. The transfer portal

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is such an important thing, and when you talk about

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talent gap comparisons on a team, you just say, Okay,

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could L J. Martin be a starting running back at

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the University of Utah. The answer to that question is

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very obviously yes. Could John Henry Daily be starting at BYU? Well, yeah,

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obviously he was at BYU at one point and if

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he was still there, he'd be their best pass rushing threat.

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Speaker 4: Right.

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Speaker 3: Could Jack Kelly and Isaiah Glasker be part of the

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every down defense for Morgan Scaley at the University of Utah?

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you start getting into, like I said, the depth, But

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even that I have a really hard time saying that

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like BYU's wide receiver room isn't as good or better

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from man one through ten than Utah's. I mean, I

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think that actually BYU has the advantage there this year.

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really struggling in independence from the scheduling standpoint, maybe there

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was a talent gap of some sort. It probably wasn't

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as pronounced as people think it is. And I think

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that the quality of NFL players that have come out

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of BYU in those years speaks to that It's not

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a quantity thing necessarily BOU, but the quality thing has

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the way into that, like, oh, you just can't compete

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because you don't have everything.

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Speaker 1: Well now they do.

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Speaker 3: They've got the resources, they've got the facilities, and most importantly,

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and something that has not talked about enough, they have

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the right coach and the right coaches at BYU. And

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that is far more important than any of the other

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things that we're talking about when it comes to comparing

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these two schools. Coaching is the number one impact sort

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of proposition in college football, and BYU's got the right

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people there.

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Speaker 2: Now, if BYU sends Kyle Whittingham home with a third

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straight loss in this rivalry game, does Kyle Whittingham retire

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or does he come back another year to duke it

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out once again with the Cougars.

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Speaker 3: I think that comes down to a question of if

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somehow Utah doesn't win this game, but redeems their season

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by backdooring into a Big twelve championship game by on

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balance having their year finish better than BYU's year. So

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from that comparative metric, like they beat us head to head,

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but we ended up having the better year, so I

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can feel better about it. Maybe I also don't know.

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I mean, he's gonna have a hard time walking away

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no matter what. So if he loses three in a

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row to BYU, he's gonna want to come back to

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take another crack at it. But then you have to

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be realistic and you have to look at all, right,

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my offensive line, that's one of the strengths of my teams.

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All of them are going to be gone next year.

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So do I want to come back and take another

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crack at BYU? Rebuilding Matt's most important part of my team.

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I mean, I understand there's I mean this, we talked

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about this on my show. This is a big part

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of the narrative this year. It'll be hard for Kyle

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Whittingham to walk away on a loss to BYU. But

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if the time is right, the time is right, it's

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just going to be a lot more of a fairy

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tale ending. If he can get back in the wind

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column against his alma mater that has of course becomes rival.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I just wonder if, if if a legacy would

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be slightly solid at all, because, like I was, I

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as well, and I I'll post the same question to

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You know, I would say, there's there's it's there's a

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partition of the legacy. One aspect of his legacy as

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the greatest coach. It's it's indubitably, like conclusive, like he's

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the greatest all time coach in University of Utah history.

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Speaker 1: A partition of that is his.

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Speaker 2: Dominance in the rivalry, right, There's no question his dominance

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in the rivalry.

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Speaker 1: Is a huge part of that legacy.

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Speaker 2: And then you have like the double digit wins, top

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twenty five seasons, You have the two thousand and eight

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undefeated season that was great. In the latter half, you

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maybe didn't get a bowl victory, a big time Bowl victory,

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but you were in big time bowl games, right, and

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you were you're in.

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Speaker 1: The top ten or flirtations at the top ten.

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Speaker 2: So where does his legacy from a fans and a

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media standpoint, where is it more so maybe attributed to

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that legacy, which one has more pomp and circumstance, and

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and maybe you know, enduring qualities for the fan in

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the mob, if you will.

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Speaker 3: I think that what you know, in the short term,

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five years from now, people would talk about, oh, Kyle

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Whittingham went out on either a sour note or a

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high note. But once you get past that five year mark, right,

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all you're talking about is like that, that's what legacy

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really means. Like how are you thought of and talked about?

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And what did you leave behind that you know, even

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the folks who didn't get to see it live remember

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about you. And Kyle Whittingham's gonna have a statue outside

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of the stadium that says multiple conference championships into different conferences,

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highest ranking in school history, this many NFL players and

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all that stuff. And by the way, even if he

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loses again to BYU this year, then a winning record

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against BYU. Right, So, like all of that comes out

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I think as a net positive for Kyle Whittingham. He's

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just so hyper competitive that he wants and he's a

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control freak, right, he wants to control that narrative to

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a point where it's like, not only did he finish strong,

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he finished strong by taking this team in his final

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year to a conference championship bid, to a college football playoff,

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which is the thing that's kind of the final box

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to check for him. If Utah would have beat Ohio

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State in that Rose Bowl when they won their first

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Pack twelve championship, I think he retires right there. I

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think he recognizes, like, this is the high water mark

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of my career.

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Speaker 4: I'm out.

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Speaker 3: It hasn't happened, and there's always been some carrot to

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dangle to bring him back. Right now, that has been

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getting back against BYU, but much more important than that

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making a college football playoff. He wants to do that

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before he leaves, and this is his best chance to

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do it with this senior group of offensive linemen on

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the interior, with two first round draft picks potentially playing

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offensive tackle, with a hyper talented quarterback.

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Speaker 4: Who's a dual threat.

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Speaker 3: And an experienced defense, especially that linebacking corps. There's always

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going to be something. There's always going to be an

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exciting young player. Hey can I get this guy better

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for next year? But at some point the succession plan

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has to come to fruition. Morgan Scalley's not going to

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wait around forever. And I do know this for a fact.

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The nil thing and the transfer portal thing. While Kyle

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Whittingham has done a pretty good job adjusting to it,

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he does not.

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Speaker 4: Like it at all.

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Speaker 3: It is a heavy lift for him to keep up

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with the Joneses on that front, and it's a heavy

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lift for the athletic department and the University of Utah

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supporters to keep up with the Joneses on that front.

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He recognizes all of this stuff. I think it's his

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last year, no matter what happens on Saturday, and probably

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no matter what happens the rest of the way. But

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I do think he's got a great shot of finishing

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on a high note.

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Speaker 4: With this roster.

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Speaker 2: Sean, give me a score prediction. How do you see

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this game playing out? What are the keys to the game.

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Speaker 3: Well, the keys of the game are possessed the football,

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don't turn it over, do not give short fields to BYU,

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and obviously you've got to stop the run. Bear Bachmeyer

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and LJ. Martin are an absolute nightmare when you put

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those two together. I think that Bo he's going to

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have a couple of big plays in this one. I

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think that you know, there's a reason why Chase Roberts

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and ten Parker Kingston and those guys have what like

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when you put the whole group together of pass catchers,

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it's like thirteen to fifteen yards per catch. I think

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Roberts is like nineteen yarders.

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Speaker 4: It's there.

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Speaker 3: They're big, dumb numbers. They're like explosive play type numbers.

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Keep that stuff in front of you, don't give up

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too many of them, and play more like you did

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against Arizona State in West Virginia on the line of

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scrimmage than you did against Texas Tech. I don't think

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BYU is anywhere near what Texas Tech is on either

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offense or defensive line right now. So Utah should be

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able to win that battle. But it's the rivalry game.

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There's talent on both sides. These coaches know each other

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incredibly well. Jay Hill is one of the best defensive

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coordinators in the country, just like Morgan scally is. I

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think it stays relatively low scoring because of that twenty

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four to twenty US.

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Speaker 2: There you go, that's the real O C Sean O'Connell.

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What would you have done to a fan that jumped

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down and tried to beat you up, you know, in

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on on on the football field, if you were a cheerleader,

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you know.

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Speaker 3: Well, if I were a cheerleader, I think my whole

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life story would.

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Speaker 4: Have gone a lot different than I probably wouldn't have

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some of.

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Speaker 1: That gus that I have.

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Speaker 2: Dude, Hey, that guy actually can't remember his name, but

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he was like a really good wrestler at Mountain View

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High School apparently, and then he like transitioned into cheerleading.

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Apparently he just beat the snot out of that poor

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BYU fan that jumped onto the football field.

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Speaker 1: So he was actually a pretty good wrestler apparently.

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Speaker 3: Well, you know, he level changed pretty well. He drives

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through the takedown. He got greedy with the ground and

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pound because you got to keep that that far his

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right arm. You know, he's got that overhooked across the body.

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You got to keep there and just hammer away with

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the left. You don't get greedy and start throwing the right.

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But the BYU fan recognized very early he had bit

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off more than he could chew, and he went into

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full defensive mode. Look, he went kind of violence at

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the game. But if you see a guy with a

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little bit of a dad bod and a great beard

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standing down there where that maybe looks like he's rooting

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for the utes BYU fans. I'm not the one, Okay,

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don't come out and try to test me. It'll be

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a bad day for both of us, but it'll be

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worse for you.

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Speaker 2: Sean O'Connell. Ladies and gentlemen, real OC. Make sure you're

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Speaker 1: Thanks Sean, We appreciate you man, Thanks for hopping on.

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Speaker 1: Let's get out to the hotline.

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Speaker 2: Welcome in College Football Insider representing Pro Football Focused, the

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one the Only, Max Chadwick.

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Speaker 1: How they are you, buddy?

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Speaker 5: What are you guys doing.

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Speaker 2: Doing fantastic? I know you guys broached the Holy War? Uh, Like,

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how do you view the Holy War in relation to

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the other rivalries in college football?

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Speaker 1: Like?

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Speaker 2: I feel like, you know, with big newon Kickoff coming

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out here and evaluating this rivalry, they're kind of opening

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themselves up to just how volatile, how much, how vile

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this rivalry can really get.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's certainly one of the most intense

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rivalries that we have in college football right now. Obviously

494
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there's two famusies do not like each other at all.

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I've had plenty of people tell me it's the biggest

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day in the state of Utah all year. I really

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am excited for this Holy world. Yeah, I think it's

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it's certainly up there. It's one of the most intense

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rivalries in the sport right now.

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Speaker 2: So you guys did your breakdown on the Pro Football

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Focused podcast. What were some of the storylines, the keys

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to the game that you guys delved into.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think the Holy warst probably be one of

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the trenches on both sides of the ball. Honestly. I

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think you got to watch at the offensive line versus

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defensive line for both teams, and I think b Yu

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obviously your offensive center around the run game, and their

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offenseve lines are really good at blocking up the run

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game this year, and Utah has had some issues in

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run defense, but Utah has been elite in terms of

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getting after the pass of this year. So it's really

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to come down to Utah stopped the run enough and

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also pressure bear Bachmeyer enough. And then on the other

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side too, Utah has one of the elite offensive lines

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in the country with a really good run game. UA

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has gotta be ready to put the thick of nose

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in their run defense this week.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, it's it's an interesting battle, no doubt.

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Speaker 2: For years, Max this game was in the modern era,

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in the Kywitingham area, it's been somewhat dominated by Utah

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Utah fans. Utah media would always cite talent gap. What

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do you see as far as talent level is concerned

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between these two teams?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it's very similar. I think these are

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two programs that are at the top of the Big

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twelve right now that they're among the five best teams.

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I was saying the Big twelve right now, maybe even

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the three best teams. So I think town level is

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very similar, which we should create a a nail binder

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tomorrow night.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: As far as the quarterback play, Devin dan Pier versus

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Bear Bachmeyer, who do you like better in this game?

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Obviously Devon's gonna have to play in a hostile environment

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on grass. I do think that that there's a component there.

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He's typically playing on turf, you know, the surface area definitely,

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or the surface that you're playing on, can you know,

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be a little bit of a variable there. You have

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a wild and rockous crowd. Bear Bachmeyer true freshman, and

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he's played well at home, but maybe Utah's defense is

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the best defense that he's faced all season long. Who

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do you think ends up outperforming who Devin or Bear.

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Speaker 4: Good question. I like Devin.

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Speaker 5: I think, God, they're very similar. I don't think you

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know this one guy the superstar, one guy struggling. I

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think they're very similar in terms of talent level right now.

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I think Dan peers a little more experience. I'll give him.

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I might give him the edge there. But I mean,

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like I said, I think both quarterbacks have been performing

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on a similar level this year. It was a pretty

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a decent level. I'll say both of them are playing

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at right now. So I think Devin, I'll give him

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the white edge, but I don't think it's very much

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big difference from either of them.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's there's a lot of mirroring here right I

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called this game the Spider Man meme. Statistically, side by side,

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they look exactly the same talent level, they look exactly

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the same quarterback, they look exactly the same. Even on

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their coaching staff. They they have kind of this cross pollination.

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You have Utah former Utah players and coaches on BAU staff,

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and vice versa, players and coaches on the University of Utah.

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Jason Becks, a former BAYU Cougar, all their entire offensive staff,

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Kyle Whitningham's for BAU player.

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Speaker 1: This is the Spider Man meme game.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, you can say that. You look at the

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two programs right now. Like I said, they are very

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similar in terms of how they want to win football games.

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It's very team before me for both programs. You know,

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I wouldn't say either program is really led by one

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or two star players. They're very well rounded teams overall,

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and I think you know they're very physical football teams too.

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I think you're gonna see that tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: One of the things that I've been evaluating here that

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that offensive line of Utah is pretty good.

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Speaker 1: How well do you think that?

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Speaker 2: You know, if we talk run to pass right, Devin Dampierre,

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has he been forced to win games with his arm

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just yet? Because I don't think b Y is great

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at pass rush, but they're phenomenal at stopping the run.

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They may just force Devin Dampierre to win with his arm.

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Speaker 1: Can he do that? Yeah?

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Speaker 5: I think it's a good question. I know, you look

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at what dam Pier has done this year in You're right,

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he's been a mostly average patcher this year. I think

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his mobility has been what's really been driving that offense

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so far. But yeah, if you can stop the run

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and if you can make Utah drought back in obvious

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passing down, that's not where they want to win football games.

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They want to win football games with their offensive line

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dominating out there. So yeah, I think it's would be

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critical for Bou tomorrow to stop the run game with

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Devin dam Pierre leading that run game and then make

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Dampierre bet as a passer.

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Speaker 2: From a PFF grading standpoint, right, if we just look

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at PFF grades versus their competition, who's the better team

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and why this year?

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Speaker 5: I think it's very similar. I don't know if I

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would feel comfortable saying one team is better than another.

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You know, Utah does have higher grades than BYU this year,

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but obviously U I U is the undefeated team right now,

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so yeah, I think actually, sorry, Utah, U I use

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the higher grade team on at PF dot com right now.

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So again, I don't think either of them are that

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much different. I don't know it'd be hark for me

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to say one team is better than another right now,

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but I would give the flight as a BYU based

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off what they done this year.

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Speaker 2: How much better is Texas Tech than all the other teams?

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In the Big Twelve, and then like what's that second tier?

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We have like first tier of like Texas Tech, that's it,

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and then who's in that second tier?

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Speaker 1: From a grading standpoint in PFF, I think.

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Speaker 5: It's pretty clear that Texas Tech is the favorite right now.

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I think, you know, I would be surprised if they're

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at least not in the Big Twelve title game. It's

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not winning the Big Twelve title. After that, I think

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it's a bunch of teams. You know, you look at

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teams like BYU, like Arizona State, like Utah. There's a

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bunch of teams that you could throw in the Big

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twelve mix right now too. So yeah, I think Texas

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Tech is a favorite, but you know, Cincinnati, BYU, Utah,

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Arizona still. I mean, yeah, I think it's a lot

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of teams after that are certainly in the mix. Right now.

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Speaker 2: We got Max Chadwick Pro Football Focus here on ESPN

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the Fan. We're live for Myers meets here in Highland, Utah.

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Delicious Meats, intreats at Meyers Fine Meets Max is BYU's

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offensive line, you know, much improved from last year, and

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pass pro and running the ball and moving defensive fronts.

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Speaker 1: Like if you look at who BYU has gone up.

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Speaker 2: Against and and you evaluate how productive they've been running

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the football, what do you prognosticate as far as BYU's

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efficiency versus this Utah defensive front and.

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Speaker 1: Running the ball?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think b Yu has done a really good

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job in offensive line this year and the seventh best

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run blocking great in the entire country right now LG MAR.

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And not only are the blocking ball for LG MAR,

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but LG. Martin's creating yards after contact too, who is

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always key too. So this is the reason why they

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run the ball to the second highest rate in the

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power for behind West Virginia. Right, So yeah, I think

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it's you know, we've come to expect this in BYU.

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We know their offensive line every single year and the

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Kawanaka hockey's gonna be really good. And that's howstranger this year.

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BYU has another elite offensive line this year too.

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Speaker 1: You messed in West Virginia.

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Speaker 2: West Virginia actually was able to run the ball effectively

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versus the University of Utah. Do you forecast that to

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occur on Saturday with b y U b Yu running

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the ball effectually versus this Utah defensive front.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I do.

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Speaker 5: Actually, I think, you know, I think Utah's run defense

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is about average this year. The right now their fifty

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first and run defense grade this year. And like I said,

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Buyu runs the ball a lot, right, so buy is

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gonna want to establish the run as much as possible.

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I don't think they want bear Bachmeier, a true freshman

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out there, to go and win this game for them.

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They're gonna want him to play a complimentary role tomorrow night.

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And like I said, it was really for both teams.

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Stop the run and make the quarterback beat you as

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a passer. Whoever does that better I think will win

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the ball games.

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Speaker 2: Max Chadwick Pro Football Focus here on ESPN the Fan

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Live for Myers meets Myers Meets in Highland, Utah. Max,

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do you have a score prediction in this game? How

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you figure it will play out a lot of the

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national media and in even Vegas, they they're they're leaning

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maybe towards Utah winning this game at Lavelle Edwards Stadium.

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Speaker 1: How do you see it?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, honestly, I think it's ben a nail bier. I

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think it's truly a coin toss. I don't think the

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spread is really indicative of how could this game is

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gonna be. So yeah, I like I did take Utah

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to win, but I had it's twenty four to twenty three. Like,

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I really think this is this could be an overtime game.

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This should be one of the best Holy Wars we

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get in a long time. I am really excited in

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this game, and like I said, I think it's truly

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a coin toss tomorrow night.

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Speaker 2: Are you picking the under or the I mean, I

683
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guess you're taking the the under there because it's at

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well forty nine and a half I think it was

685
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last time I checked, so that's pretty close.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I took I think it's what forty seven that

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I predicted, So I think why I pick the under

688
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there is I think both programs are going to run

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the ball, which is going to bleed the clock a lot.

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I don't think it's gonna be a high flying offensive affair.

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I think both teams are going to be really really

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physical in the trenches and try to have these long

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substating drives, which probably lead to a lower scoring game.

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But I do think it'll be an awesome game. In

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the last three, and I guess that it should be

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a really really close final score.

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Speaker 1: Max Chadwick, Pro Football Focus. Max, always appreciate our time together.

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Speaker 5: No, I appreciate that. Yeah, it's the PFF College Football

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Speaker 4: Thanks guys.

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Speaker 2: All right, there you have it. That's Max Chadwick. We're

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lyve for Myers meets Myers Meats in Highland, Utah. Come

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on by check out all of the fine foods of

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Myers Meats. I love their meats, I love their try

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tip get it in all manner of marinates. Right now

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you can go into the back and check out their

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specific tri tubes. It's fantastic for a Saturday Sunday type

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of barbecue. You want to do a little bit of

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a smoke out, you got it here at Meers Meets

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real quick before we go to break my guy Trent,

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Trent Reid here a big b y U van. We

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love Trent. We interact a lot on X Trent. Do

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you shop here at Myers Meets on occasion?

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Speaker 1: By chance? I do? Indeed.

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Speaker 6: In fact, I grew up next to the Myers in

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the Holiday area, and so back then there was Myers

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and Meyers Chicken and it was sort of a high

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school hangout for sure. But but now when you come

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to Myers sort of the Alpine Highland and American Fork area,

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they're all here, and you know, a lot of a

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lot of times run into some who's who here at

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oh Yeah Meets.

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Speaker 1: But I ran into Ben Kahoon earlier today.

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Speaker 6: I mean between the try Tip, you're right and there

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they're custom Hamburger Patty's. Those things are sweet and you

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know the ribs that they do that you can just

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pop in the oven.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Myers kills it. And I'm wearing today.

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Speaker 6: I was on my way to a big meeting downtown

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and I was like, I'm getting a shirt for this.

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I haven't bought a new shirt in a while, and

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I was gonna go to Utah Woolen Mills. It's like

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u W M now, And I'm like, no, those guys

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are such youth fans. And so I remember, and I'm like, okay,

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Odeon men's wear And there was one in draper stopped

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along the way. I'm wearing my Odeon men's wear. Pretty

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nice sports performance. It looks fantastic. Right, So Odeon came through.

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Speaker 1: Did you get the did you get the ben Criddle discount?

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Speaker 2: They?

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Speaker 6: I didn't because I was like I want I just

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I wanted them to get full margin. And then I

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told them afterward, by the way, I came because of

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Ben Criddle, but I didn't. People should get the discount.

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You should get the discount. But I just didn't want

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the discount. I wanted them to make a bucks. You're

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a gentleman and a scholar and a good man train.

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Speaker 1: How do you shoe this game playing out? Man? I mean,

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I know you.

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Speaker 2: You listen to the show, you consume all manner of

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by you scot sports content. He's the fan that that

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puts his kids to bed and puts it like this

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is his eternal companion, goodnight, like I love you baby,

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and then he listens to the podcast he listens to

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all the kind of he gets on his phone on

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a computer and he consumes it all. So he's very

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well versed in cougar sports lore.

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Speaker 6: My company even we wanted to sponsor this, but we

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were like, too far back in line for you.

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Speaker 2: That's not true. We need to get Ryan, you know,

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And it was you know, now you've changed the name.

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Speaker 1: You've red.

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Speaker 6: After for the review, and so if people watch, which

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they should after for the review, then they'll they'll hear

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our sponsorship.

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Speaker 1: But uh, yeah, I heard of your.

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Speaker 6: Last two guests, and uh, I think that the I

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understand where they're coming from. But by he's gonna be

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able to run it on these guys, and uh and

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what's gonna happen is going to look a little bit

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like a hybrid of when Jared Hall took come to task.

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I mean, if we're taking them earlier in the year,

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I'd be much more nervous about, you know, Bear's preparedness.

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Speaker 1: But he's playing with.

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Speaker 6: The type of confidence that Jaron Hall did. They set

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them up in situations that aren't high risk. They understand

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the high risk situations that didn't pay off in the

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in the past, and they're gonna be able to run

786
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it against these guys, and they're gonna be able to

787
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throw it too.

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Speaker 1: They'll be able to.

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Speaker 6: They're gonna use Kingston like you know, going in motion.

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They won't be able to bump them speed kills. They're

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gonna get it to them in space. And we're gonna

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end up winning, probably in the sort of thirty three

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to twenty range. It's gonna be exciting, but it's not

794
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gonna be a nail bider.

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Speaker 2: You're feeling the double score, double digit win.

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Speaker 6: We're taking the Man and that and the Reed family,

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the Forest family.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna be.

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Speaker 6: There together making so much noise that the youths won't

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be able to you know.

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Speaker 1: See straight.

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Speaker 2: I will say this much. The roar of the Cougars

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does a great job. The Royal Army, the general fan

804
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base does a great job. We need to be loud

805
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and proud. The Twelfth Man needs to be loud as

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soon as the offense, the Utah offense is on the field,

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not just when they're kind of setting up pre snap,

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but I want poor communication.

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Speaker 1: Throughout the entirety of that.

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Speaker 6: That play call we're bringing it we did during the

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Jar Andhall victory. We're doing it again. That was such

812
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a glorious one of the most fun games I've ever attended.

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That the Boise State Hill Mary from Tanner. I mean

814
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it was fun with Jaren and Bears about mall them

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Revenant style and uh, and we'll get a good result here, a.

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Speaker 2: Big revenant pool. I love that movie. That was fantastic.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 2: You know, we'll leave them alive just enough so they

819
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so they can survive. Yeah, a little a little bit

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of grace for our brethren, Trent big Ugaro to you.

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Appreciate you joining us, and great prediction. I do think

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by you will be able to run the ball. And

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the question is how quickly will they adapt to b

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Yu's effective.

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Speaker 1: Running and then how we're gonna win? Are we gonna win?

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In uh?

827
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Speaker 2: In versus their coverage, they do have a good defensive

828
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back crew. Their talented miss notes off he is very good.

829
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Uh but uh, I do see uh in an upticking

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talent over the last five years at wide receiver and shoot.

831
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It could be a Carson Ryan type of game too.

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We'll see how he competes at that tight end spot.

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Let's go to break, don't go anywhere more to get

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to this is Cougar Sports on one O three, nine

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ninety eight point three ESPN the Fan. You are listening

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to Cougar Sports with Ben Krettle, and it's time for

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a Cougar insider report. Now, let's get that proprietary inside

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scoop on Cougar Sports from Critle. Welcome back Cougar Sports

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one of three, nine ninety eight point three ESPN Fan.

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I'm Ben Footle broadcasting from Myers Meets and Find Foods

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in Highland, Utah.

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Speaker 1: Stop bombay saying hello.

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Speaker 2: Entered to win a contest to get yourself a free

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tri tip. They have all manner of different tri tips,

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maritata and spices and herbs. I think you're gonna love

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Myers Meets and fine Foods here in Highland, Utah. We're

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gonna get into an insider report, get into some sound

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University of Utah, the former whack Player of the Year

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for the BYU Cougars. In this insider report, can it

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And if you're a BYU fan, I'd advise you let

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him try to earn your business today. But as I mentioned,

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we're at Myers Meets. Come on in and enter your

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name at the register to win a free try chip

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from Myers Meats and Fine Foods Bread always bringing the

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hammer by my side, Sack Robinson behind the glass. Let's

863
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get into a SoundBite from Cowiting. I've stated this time

864
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and time again this week. This is the Spider Man

865
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meme game. We look very similar in every We look

866
00:42:49,920 --> 00:42:53,159
very similar in every way, shape and form. And he

867
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breaks it down between the two teams that are a

868
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lot of similarity statistically.

869
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Speaker 7: Ivory week got to go on the road. I guess

870
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it's going to be a big neon kickoff. Will be

871
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there even though it's not the big new game of

872
00:43:08,840 --> 00:43:13,360
the week, it's they'll be down there and and so

873
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we have have to have a great week of practice

874
00:43:15,960 --> 00:43:19,679
as always between the two teams, there's a lot of

875
00:43:19,679 --> 00:43:23,920
similarities statistically, both rushing for roughly the same amount, throwing

876
00:43:23,960 --> 00:43:27,760
for roughly the same amount, scoring roughly the same amount. Defensively,

877
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there's a lot of similarities as well, both in the

878
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upper third of the conference in most of the key stats,

879
00:43:35,159 --> 00:43:38,880
and so should make for a great matchup. And and

880
00:43:40,079 --> 00:43:41,960
away we go, rival.

881
00:43:42,119 --> 00:43:43,079
Speaker 1: Away we go.

882
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:47,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Brett, what are the differentiating and shout out what's again?

883
00:43:47,880 --> 00:43:51,920
To trend over at Ryan Valuations. He does great work

884
00:43:51,920 --> 00:43:55,480
over there. But Brett, are there any statistics that are

885
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differentiators here?

886
00:43:56,599 --> 00:43:59,960
Speaker 1: As we headed? This one is so interesting. I just

887
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do a study.

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Speaker 8: If you don't believe me, go on Big twelve sports

889
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dot com right now and just go through football statistics.

890
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And what you will see is in almost every single one,

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no matter what it is, even the weird ones like

892
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defensive and offensive efficiency, BYU is sitting right next to Utah,

893
00:44:17,480 --> 00:44:19,760
and if not, there's a couple of them, where BYU

894
00:44:19,840 --> 00:44:22,320
sitting one spot away and there's one team in between.

895
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Speaker 1: It is so weird how similar these teams are.

896
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Speaker 8: And what's funny is if you even go back to

897
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last year, even when Utah wasn't good last year, defensively

898
00:44:31,639 --> 00:44:33,800
in a lot of categories. They were also sitting right

899
00:44:33,840 --> 00:44:36,239
next to Bou So these teams have been a mirror

900
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image app matchup for a long time. But if you're

901
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going through and you're looking at the data, the one

902
00:44:42,039 --> 00:44:45,559
place where you will see a difference is rush defense.

903
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Utah is the ninth best, ninth worst, however you want

904
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to call it. Ninth in rush defense in the Big Twelve.

905
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BYU is second. Now a large part of that Utah

906
00:44:56,519 --> 00:44:58,800
hasn't been horrible defending the defense.

907
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Speaker 1: But as you just heard in the the previous.

908
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Speaker 8: Segment with Max Chadwick, even he's selling you, hey, they

909
00:45:04,079 --> 00:45:07,480
have our fifty first rush defense grade. They're average right

910
00:45:07,519 --> 00:45:10,239
now and defending the run, that's what the metrics tell

911
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you with the Big twelve stats.

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Speaker 1: Part of that what really got away.

913
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Speaker 8: From them was West Virginia when they gave up two

914
00:45:17,119 --> 00:45:20,400
hundred and sixty one yards. So what'll be interesting to

915
00:45:20,480 --> 00:45:25,320
me is if BYU can I guess Utah is probably

916
00:45:25,320 --> 00:45:28,000
gonna load the box. Obviously we've seen teams do that

917
00:45:28,039 --> 00:45:30,400
though this season and not really get away with it.

918
00:45:30,400 --> 00:45:33,639
Speaker 1: This Buo offensive line seems to just mow through these

919
00:45:33,679 --> 00:45:35,199
linebackers at the second level.

920
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Speaker 8: If Utah loads up this box, which we think they will,

921
00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:42,000
they run man coverage at one of the highest clips

922
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of anybody in the country. Where does BYU want to

923
00:45:45,039 --> 00:45:46,880
win the game? Do they want to say, hey, we

924
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,679
don't care if you load it, We're gonna run it anyway.

925
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Speaker 1: Or do they say, you know what, if you're gonna

926
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go one on one.

927
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Speaker 8: We think PK and Chase Roberts and crew, we think

928
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they can handle their business. It'll be really interesting to

929
00:45:56,039 --> 00:45:57,000
see what a rod decides.

930
00:45:57,079 --> 00:45:59,360
Speaker 2: Yeah, the question is I have here? Is this truly

931
00:45:59,400 --> 00:46:01,280
the playing game for the Big twelve title game?

932
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Speaker 1: Right?

933
00:46:01,639 --> 00:46:04,119
Speaker 2: Is this going to be the playing game? What does

934
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Utah have on the back end of this? They could

935
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lose to a better and what much improved Colorado team

936
00:46:09,679 --> 00:46:13,920
They look at a whole lot more formidable. BYU have

937
00:46:14,039 --> 00:46:16,039
some tough games after this as well. I always staying

938
00:46:16,079 --> 00:46:18,719
on the road, although I always state has shown that

939
00:46:18,719 --> 00:46:21,280
they have some weaknesses. But they're gonna be playing BYU

940
00:46:21,320 --> 00:46:24,639
at home. It's not going to be easy whatsoever. Like

941
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there are opportunities. Obviously b is going to be in Lubbock.

942
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They probably lose that game. Utah has already got demolished

943
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bomb and it was on their home field. So it'll

944
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be intriguing to compare and contrast after this game. Just

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where BYU sits within the Big Twelve? Is there a

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fourth and fifth best team right now in the Big Twelve?

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Would you say, Brett Hammer, that you can be conclusive about.

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Speaker 8: So right now, if you go and look at standings,

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your top teams are Arizona State, Utah, Cincinnati, Texas Tech,

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and by you Cincinnati is such a weird one because

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as it was a team that nobody thought was going

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to be successful in this conference, probably similar to what

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we thought about Arizona State last year and then they

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had the year that they hear. Houston is also a

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sleeper team right now in this conference, like they look

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good no matter who they play against. Is going to

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be fascinating to see who ends up on top at

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the end. My one thing I'll say about Texas Tech

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is the question you have to ask what the Red

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Raiders is do you think they'll go undefeated? Because if not,

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who's their loss? And you go look at their schedule

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the rest of the season they play they so they

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play at Arizona State tomorrow, they'll play Olklahoma State, which

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we know is a win. They play at Kansas State,

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They'll play BYU UCF in West Virginia.

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Speaker 1: Now, most of those games look winnable. Arizona State could

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give them a scare. We'll see.

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Speaker 8: But if you're a Texas Tech fan, you're saying, where's

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our one loss? You're probably saying it's BYU. Now, I

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get it's on the road. I get it's number seven

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Texas Tech. From a BYU perspective, I don't know if

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I picked them to win that game. But I also

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don't know if I picked Texas Tech to go undefeated

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throughout the rest of the season. That to me, I

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think from a Texas Tech respective could be a trap game.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm looking at Houston and Cincinnati right now. I'm

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gonna give you my comments on their back end of

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their schedule. But let's listen to Kyle Whittingham. Who's the

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team to be in the Big twelve? And why is

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it Texas Tech?

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Speaker 7: He said, when you first had the nil and all that,

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that you would see a time when the top twenty

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five would reflect the same amount of money. Are you

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not seeing that now?

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Speaker 1: I'm wondering if you've seen that and that's particular.

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Speaker 7: In the Big twelve. Oh, who's leading the Big twelve

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right now? Who's the team to be Texas Tech? Who

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had the most budget by far? Texas Tech? So I

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think yes. Short answer is yeah, I think we're seeing

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that play out. And it's not a complaint. It's not

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a you know, you know Tech, you just have all

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the money. It's not fair that their congratulations to them,

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they're committed winning. And so it is playing out with

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in the conference as well as on the national scene.

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Speaker 2: If this is the case, if it all has to

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do with money and your payroll, who's spent the second

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most in the Big twelve?

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Speaker 1: Who spent the second most in the Big twelve? I

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don't know the answer to that, you know what I mean,

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that's the question right now.

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Speaker 2: It's like okay, well, right now, if you're looking at standings,

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If you're looking at the standings, it's like, okay, well,

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if this is the case, then it's either BYU, Cincinnati, Houston, Utah,

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or what Arizona State.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's Arizona State.

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Speaker 2: So it's it's Utah, Houston, Sinnati, Texas Tech BYU. I

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don't know what Baylor spent, Baylor probably spent pretty many.

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Did Iowa State spend the second most? Kansas Kansas State?

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You of a, TCU Colorado, you know what I mean? Like,

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is Colorado going to have this like resurgence on the

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back end and become arguably like the second best team

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and in the Big Twelve From a schedule standpoint, let

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me tell you this, Houston and Cincinnati may have the

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easiest path to Arlington right now, like quite honestly, because

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Cincinnati plays Oklahoma State Baylor. They're at Utah, So that's

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a tough one. Yeah, that's a tough one. They're at

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home versus U of A. They play BYU Okay at home,

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and then they're at TCU. Okay, that's gonna be tough.

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They're gonna have a few losses. It'll be tough. But Houston,

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look at this U of A at home at ASU West

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Virginia at home at UCF a little bit of a

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trap game maybe, then TCU at home and then at Baylor.

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I don't know who has the weaker strength of schedule

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on the back end, but Houston and Cincinnati are gonna

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be intriguing to watch.

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Speaker 1: We'll see just how good they are because if.

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Speaker 2: They are as good as you know they they've kind

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of showcased and they have to spend some money. There's

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no doubt Willie Fritz has done a good job there

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and here, so there's some good money in the Houston

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area and you wonder how impactful that has been from

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a roster.

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Speaker 1: Roster standpoint, a talent standpoint.

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Speaker 8: It's going to be a fight for the finish for

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this Big twelve title, and honestly, as much as we

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want to say it's BYU, when it really comes down

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to it at the end of the season, it could

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be any one of those guys who's fighting.

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Speaker 1: Texas Tech for that title spot.

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Speaker 2: I want to know who's spent the second most, quite

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honestly on their roster, because I don't I think in

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the future may b Yu may be the second biggest

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spender from an NIL perspective, in the future, I don't

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know if it's this year though, I don't know if

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they're spending the second most this year comparative to Tech.

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Speaker 1: And it's such a hard thing to know.

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Speaker 8: My initial totally arbitrary guess would maybe be Colorado only

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because and the only reason I say that, I don't

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know anything about the donors. But what I can say

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is it seems like Dion can call anybody and get

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them to show up at the University Colorado. So my

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guess would be, if there's a guy who can call

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somebody and get money deposited of anybody in the Big Twelve,

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I think it would probably be Dione, But who knows.

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