Speaker 1: This is the other side of midnight.
Speaker 2: They're running a strange program, y'all.
Speaker 1: With Walter Sterling.
Speaker 3: Come in, listen to my story about a man named
Speaker 3: Walter Rady, old genius who would seldom falter, and then
Speaker 3: one day he was hanging around the STA when his
Speaker 3: bosses decided to unleash.
Speaker 4: Him on the Nation Corporate you know Brooks brother Suits,
Speaker 4: club ties.
Speaker 3: Next thing you know, young Walters Peep.
Speaker 4: They gave him an office in New York City, but
Speaker 4: things didn't turn out exactly quiet. Right now he's back
Speaker 4: on the other side of midnights weird Callers, Flying Saucers.
Speaker 1: Florida's story.
Speaker 2: So do you think sex is important to men in
Speaker 2: a marriage? Yes? Okay? What do women want out of
Speaker 2: a marriage?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 2: Instability?
Speaker 6: Okay?
Speaker 2: And would would you say that you get that through
Speaker 2: long term commitment?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 7: So what if I told you one in four marriages
Speaker 7: were sexless one in four?
Speaker 2: I believe, so do you? Who is it harder for?
Speaker 5: Then?
Speaker 7: If we're getting the commitment from him but they're not
Speaker 7: getting the sex from us.
Speaker 8: Wow, there is a reason some husbands take longer bringing
Speaker 8: the trash cans back, and it has very.
Speaker 2: Little to do with trash.
Speaker 8: He rolls the bin outside, then stands there another minute,
Speaker 8: because for that moment, the house cannot ask anything from him.
Speaker 8: No argument happened, and nobody did anything wrong. And he
Speaker 8: may simply be taking sixty quiet seconds before walking back
Speaker 8: into responsibility. So the man standing beside a trash can
Speaker 8: may not be avoiding home. He may just be borrowing
Speaker 8: one minute of silence.
Speaker 9: And that's all we get. That's the negotiation. Man takes
Speaker 9: out the garbage, stands at the curb, stares across the street,
Speaker 9: wondering what's going on in that house over there? Why
Speaker 9: aren't there lights on? Thanks for forty five seconds, comes
Speaker 9: back into the house, and what is he asked?
Speaker 6: What is?
Speaker 9: He asked? Why did it take you so long to
Speaker 9: take out the trash? What were you doing out there?
Speaker 9: What was going on out there? Now he had stolen
Speaker 9: forty five seconds to get peace and quiet from the
Speaker 9: shrapnel of marriage, the shrapnel the suffering that married men
Speaker 9: go through, which is a progressive disease. It's a progressive
Speaker 9: disease because the longer of man is married in almost
Speaker 9: ninety percent of the situations, the criticism increases over time.
Speaker 9: It's a slow drip if marriage started the way it
Speaker 9: is at ten years, fifteen years, it wouldn't go past
Speaker 9: a year. But slowly, slowly, the wife asks more annoying questions,
Speaker 9: asks more, has more suggestions about how things are done.
Speaker 9: Why is that there? Consider this if when your wife
Speaker 9: starts the day, what she should be saying is good morning,
Speaker 9: how's everything going? Did you sleep well? What fun thing
Speaker 9: are we going to do today? That's how it should start,
Speaker 9: But instead it starts with oho, put this here. She
Speaker 9: comes downstairs, she looks at the room, she comes out
Speaker 9: of her bedroom, she looks at the dining room, the
Speaker 9: TV room, and she goes, who put this here? Why
Speaker 9: is this here?
Speaker 1: Not?
Speaker 9: How you doing? What fun thing we're going to do today?
Speaker 9: She starts to have a list of starting with suggestions
Speaker 9: and then going downhill from there, and then it goes
Speaker 9: to why is this a mess? Who's going to clean
Speaker 9: this up? It's all tactical, utilitarian demands, endless demands, and
Speaker 9: you don't even realize it. A husband, the kids, they
Speaker 9: don't even realize it at first, but slowly it grows
Speaker 9: and it grows. But then if you catch it and
Speaker 9: you say to her, listen, you realize it'd be good.
Speaker 9: If you've started the day by saying, good morning, how's
Speaker 9: everything going, that would be a much better way. Why
Speaker 9: are you talking about I always do that. It would
Speaker 9: never it would never stop. It's the same reason when
Speaker 9: I'm in a supermarket, I'm in a mall. Yes, I
Speaker 9: do go to malls, and I'll see a married couple
Speaker 9: walking through the aisles. And every time I pass a
Speaker 9: married couple walking through the aisles, I always whisper to
Speaker 9: the husband. I always say to him, always shop alone,
Speaker 9: and then I keep going. The guy hears it and
Speaker 9: he starts laughing. Every time I can make a guy
Speaker 9: laugh by going always shop alone, and he starts laughing.
Speaker 9: She goes, what did he say? What did he say?
Speaker 9: And he goes, nothing, He didn't say anything. He wasn't
Speaker 9: talking to me. But there it is. There it is.
Speaker 9: You're crazy if you're if you're married or you're living
Speaker 9: together and you go food shopping alone, you're nuts because
Speaker 9: it's an endless debate leading to an endless argument and
Speaker 9: endless resentments. One of the many good things about my
Speaker 9: marriage is my wife has no interest in going food shopping.
Speaker 9: I don't think I've ever seen her shop for food
Speaker 9: or prepare food. I don't think either of those things
Speaker 9: have happened. A part of that is self defense. I
Speaker 9: don't want her to prepare food. She's irish. There's no
Speaker 9: upside for me in her preparing food, but no fun
Speaker 9: to go to the supermarket with her. Then what I'll
Speaker 9: do is I'll risk my life and I'll take the
Speaker 9: fourteen year old. And what do fourteen year olds want?
Speaker 9: They want everything, especially if it's strange colors and heavily sugared.
Speaker 9: They want everything. They want the lucky charms, they want,
Speaker 9: the uh A cocoa paffas, all the terrible cereals. That's
Speaker 9: what they want. And then you have an endless fight
Speaker 9: with the fourteen year old about what we're gonna get.
Speaker 9: The pop tarts, many different flavors of pop tarts that
Speaker 9: they will never eat. There's the big challenge. You're going
Speaker 9: with a teenager to the supermarket. Huge challenge. But what
Speaker 9: happens in a marriage or a long term relationship is
Speaker 9: the default pleasantries I think start to disappear. They start
Speaker 9: to go away. And when I hear people who are
Speaker 9: getting a divorce, what do I hear when I talk
Speaker 9: to them about why are you getting a divorce. Why
Speaker 9: are you doing this? I thought you guys got a
Speaker 9: long rate. Well, the quote institution of marriage is a
Speaker 9: failure in our culture because half of the people get
Speaker 9: married and they get a divorce. Oh that's a bad percentage,
Speaker 9: that's a failure. You know which country has the lowest
Speaker 9: percent of divorces, the lowest percent India, only like five
Speaker 9: percent of marriages in India and in divorce. And that
Speaker 9: wonderful Indian comic, that woman whose name I can never
Speaker 9: get right, Zara, I never get it right. She says,
Speaker 9: we have a perfect marriage. We get along great because
Speaker 9: we don't communicate. We never communicate, we never talk to
Speaker 9: each other for any reason, and therefore our marriage is
Speaker 9: going great. We have nothing to argue about because we
Speaker 9: don't communicate at all. And I'm like, yes, that's the
Speaker 9: right way. And I think I have a good marriage
Speaker 9: because I'm not part of it. I have no involvement
Speaker 9: with my marriage. My marriage is a separate issue. Whatever
Speaker 9: she wants to do, that's just fine. She discusses her
Speaker 9: issues with her. My sister in law controls the marriage.
Speaker 9: I think your sister in law controls the marriage as well.
Speaker 9: In fact, I think it's safe to say that everybody's
Speaker 9: marriage is controlled by their sister in law. If your
Speaker 9: sister in law buys a piece of furniture, you will
Speaker 9: find that in your house six months later. I saw
Speaker 9: this at my sister's I really thought i'd buy one
Speaker 9: for us. Did you want to talk to me about that?
Speaker 6: No?
Speaker 9: No, I knew you'd like it. It's astonishing the number
Speaker 9: of things that I'm told I'm going to like long
Speaker 9: before it actually happens. But I believe that the reason
Speaker 9: that half the marriage is in America fail. It doesn't work.
Speaker 9: The institution doesn't work the way it is. I feel
Speaker 9: there are two big reasons. See what you think. Number One,
Speaker 9: people get married before they're ready. And there's a trick,
Speaker 9: which is that at some point you start you start
Speaker 9: to embrace the notion that there's the right age for
Speaker 9: you to get married. There is no right age. There
Speaker 9: are people who get married at eighteen and they stay
Speaker 9: married till they're seventy and it works. There are other
Speaker 9: people who don't get married till they're sixty and they
Speaker 9: divorced in a year because they weren't ready. I believe
Speaker 9: that each of us has a marriage clock and that
Speaker 9: marriage clock. If a person gets married before that marriage
Speaker 9: clock goes off, it won't work. Doesn't matter who it is,
Speaker 9: doesn't matter who they're marrying, it won't work. And then
Speaker 9: if they get married after the marriage clock goes off,
Speaker 9: it almost doesn't matter who they're married, it'll be fine.
Speaker 9: It'll work out because they were ready. But I think
Speaker 9: most people get married before they're ready, and therefore half
Speaker 9: the marriages fail.
Speaker 6: But then so I have decided to start the process
Speaker 6: of freezing my eggs.
Speaker 9: But if you talk to somebody who's about to get
Speaker 9: a divorce and you know that well enough, it's never
Speaker 9: that they stopped having sex. Sex is not the reason
Speaker 9: that marriages succeed or fail, Nor is it the reason
Speaker 9: that guy's cheat. Don't cheat for sex. Guys cheat for softness.
Speaker 9: Guys cheat for a soft landing. They cheat to be
Speaker 9: greeted during their day by a woman who answers them
Speaker 9: softly and sweetly and gently and respects, respects the decisions
Speaker 9: they made, respects the choices they made at work or
Speaker 9: at home, shows respect, absolute agreement on everything. No no, no,
Speaker 9: no no, But there are ways to say it that
Speaker 9: indicate everything's okay. I respect your decisions. I respect Why
Speaker 9: you did that?
Speaker 6: Got it?
Speaker 9: Partnership? Notice that usually the wife, well, we're partners, we're married, now,
Speaker 9: we have to be married, now, we have to be
Speaker 9: getting together. We have to make these decisions together, right,
Speaker 9: But she doesn't make decisions with the guy. That's the
Speaker 9: whole cycle, that's the whole challenge. What a guy wants
Speaker 9: in a marriage is softness. He wants to be greeted
Speaker 9: with kindness and softness. As strange as this may seem,
Speaker 9: let's see, Matt, would you play would you play sexless?
Speaker 9: And would you play hold on?
Speaker 5: Uh?
Speaker 9: Left out? Okay? Would you do that? Left out? Okay?
Speaker 9: And sexless? On the other side of midnight with Walter Sterling.
Speaker 9: It's about twenty past the hour, and you and I
Speaker 9: can talk at any time. Eight hundred eight four eight
Speaker 9: nine two two two eight hundred eight four eight nine
Speaker 9: two two two you got So?
Speaker 2: Do you think sex is important to men in a marriage?
Speaker 10: Yes?
Speaker 2: Okay? What do women want out of a marriage?
Speaker 9: No?
Speaker 2: Instability? Okay? And would would you say you get that
Speaker 2: through long term commitment?
Speaker 6: Right?
Speaker 5: So?
Speaker 7: What if I told you one in four marriages were sexless?
Speaker 2: One and four? I believe so do you, who is
Speaker 2: it harder for that?
Speaker 7: If we're getting the commitment from him, but they're not
Speaker 7: getting the sex from.
Speaker 11: Us, you can't really hurt a man who's already comfortable
Speaker 11: being left out. He's fine if he's not invited, not included,
Speaker 11: or even forgotten. Once a man learns to enjoy his
Speaker 11: own company, stops needing validation from others, there's very little
Speaker 11: anyone can take from him. That's real strength, being at peace,
Speaker 11: even when you're standing alone.
Speaker 9: Eight hundred eight four eight nine two Walter Sterling The
Speaker 9: Other Side of Midnight.
Speaker 1: The Other side of Midnight with Walter Sterling. It's the
Speaker 1: other side of Midnight with Welter Sterling.
Speaker 3: Midnight.
Speaker 9: I never play your radio.
Speaker 1: Needlessly, just when you must, and then make.
Speaker 3: Sure you listen to a show you know you interest.
Speaker 4: Listen confidently to the other side of Midnight.
Speaker 9: One of the great mysteries of our time is how
Speaker 9: to have a successful marriage? Problem Challenge number one, how
Speaker 9: to have a successful marriage. If you're married, you're looking
Speaker 9: at marriage, how to have a success because most of
Speaker 9: them fail. It's astonishing that Americans invest an average of
Speaker 9: thirty nine thousand dollars for a wedding thirty nine thousand
Speaker 9: dollars for a wedding, ten thousand dollars for a honeymoon,
Speaker 9: to invest in something that will probably fail. Rob on
Speaker 9: Long Island, Welcome to the other side of midnight at
Speaker 9: eight hundred eighty four eight nine two to two. Greetings Rob,
Speaker 9: hey Walter, how are you doing okay? Buddy?
Speaker 10: I have a theory beause marriage, to me is like sports.
Speaker 10: And sports when you play against the same guy and
Speaker 10: it's the same team in your division, they is a
Speaker 10: saying it's familiarity breeds contempt. Now that's why the rangers
Speaker 10: in the island is kill each other. The more you
Speaker 10: know about the person you marry, the more you start
Speaker 10: hating them. And that might be a right theory with
Speaker 10: the Indian people's, you know, they don't really talk too
Speaker 10: much and it lasts.
Speaker 9: Again, what do you think, how long were you married?
Speaker 10: I was married for seventeen years.
Speaker 9: And why would you say it stopped?
Speaker 10: Oh? Well, I knew it was over when she used
Speaker 10: to say to me, I hope it rains tomorrow when
Speaker 10: you're about to play golf. Yeah, that's yeah, So that's
Speaker 10: you know, you don't have to say much more than that.
Speaker 9: No, no, because I didn't understand the appeal of golf
Speaker 9: until I got married.
Speaker 10: I play a lot of golf, but and at the time,
Speaker 10: I was only playing once a week and it was
Speaker 10: on Sundays. Now I'm sixty one years old, I'm happily divorced.
Speaker 9: How old are you?
Speaker 10: How old are you?
Speaker 9: You're our youngest listener. I want to congratulate you on
Speaker 9: being our youngest listener today.
Speaker 10: I'm on my way home from work.
Speaker 9: Hey, that's good to know. Can I ask what sort
Speaker 9: of work you do?
Speaker 10: I'm a limo driver for some of the big shots
Speaker 10: in New York City.
Speaker 9: And is it a steady list of clients or do
Speaker 9: you just who comes over the transom there?
Speaker 6: No, it's a.
Speaker 10: Steady list of some people like to go out late
Speaker 10: to live in Manhattan and Manhattan and.
Speaker 6: Hampton.
Speaker 9: Oh so it's it's the Hampton people coming back. Now,
Speaker 9: what what's the right tip? How many if somebody takes
Speaker 9: you from the Hampton's to Manhattan, what's the right tip?
Speaker 10: Well, I've gotten a couple of hundred, then I've gotten nothing, so, uh,
Speaker 10: you know, I mean, I get a steady pay for
Speaker 10: doing that, but it's a mixed bag. Yeah, you know
Speaker 10: the people who talk about being the richest that don't.
Speaker 6: Want to give you the least an that's right.
Speaker 9: Anybody who delivers newspapers knows that that's exactly true. That
Speaker 9: at Christmas time the rich houses would give you a
Speaker 9: buck and the people who were on food stamps would
Speaker 9: give you fifty. And it's exactly right. Rob, Hey appreciate it,
Speaker 9: and I thank you for listening to the Other Side
Speaker 9: of Midnight with Walter Stirling eight hundred eight four eight
Speaker 9: nine two to two two. You and I are sharing
Speaker 9: about why marriages fail. Fifty percent of the marriages in
Speaker 9: America fail. Only five percent of the marriage is in
Speaker 9: India fail. The reason in India that they don't fail
Speaker 9: they don't talk to each other. Part of their culture
Speaker 9: is a husband and wife. They really don't communicate. That
Speaker 9: seems like a very good plan to me. I have
Speaker 9: lived my marriage on a need to know basis. I
Speaker 9: really there isn't much that I need to know at
Speaker 9: any given time. You know, talk to your sister. Don't
Speaker 9: don't bother me with this. I only want to have
Speaker 9: I want to have information on a need to know basis.
Speaker 9: Doesn't that make sense? Isn't that the practical way to
Speaker 9: approach this. Eight hundred is my phone number eight four
Speaker 9: eight nine two two two. Eight hundred eight four eight
Speaker 9: nine two two two. It's it's always been interesting to
Speaker 9: me to see the marriages at work and the ones
Speaker 9: that don't. And it's never I've never seen a pattern
Speaker 9: other than the fact it's never about sex. It's always
Speaker 9: about something else, something bigger, and often something that should
Speaker 9: have been discussed before you got married. Oh, you didn't
Speaker 9: know that that she didn't want kids. You didn't know
Speaker 9: he didn't want kids. Probably should have come up before.
Speaker 9: Probably should. And then they argue over money, which is
Speaker 9: particularly stupid because you know why, you know why it's
Speaker 9: stupid argue over money. It's just money. It's it's like,
Speaker 9: it's just money. Why would you argue over that. It's
Speaker 9: crazy talk marriage is failing eight hundred eight four eight
Speaker 9: nine two to two two. Then you know the most
Speaker 9: annoying group of people, and this could easily come up
Speaker 9: in a marriage. The most annoying group of people in
Speaker 9: the world are vegetarians. Vegetarians by default are annoying. Why
Speaker 9: because they think you should be a vegetarian. The guy
Speaker 9: who sells steaks never says you should eat more steak.
Speaker 9: The person who stays up really late never says, why
Speaker 9: don't you stay up later. The people who get up early,
Speaker 9: they're the ones who say you should, you should get
Speaker 9: up early, you should become a member of the five
Speaker 9: am club. Well, I'm a member of the five am club.
Speaker 9: That's at the end of my work day. Same thing
Speaker 9: with you. We're we're working at the right time because
Speaker 9: we're focused on the task and that's the job. The
Speaker 9: job is the job, not about filling out forms. But they,
Speaker 9: you know who they are, have done a big study
Speaker 9: about vegetarianism. What happens if you decide to be a
Speaker 9: vegetarian and what happens to your body, and this is terrifying.
Speaker 9: People who went vegan for four weeks saw shocking DNA
Speaker 9: changes linked to lower inflammation and slower aging compared to
Speaker 9: those who eat rich meat diets. Researchers wanted to see
Speaker 9: whether changing what people eat can quickly affect how their
Speaker 9: bodies work at the cellular level, finding that meatless eaters
Speaker 9: had biological markers linked to a less inflamed immune system.
Speaker 9: The vegan diet also appeared to reduce activity in genes
Speaker 9: involved in cancer related pathways and may help slow biological aging.
Speaker 9: The new findings show how quickly diet can affect the
Speaker 9: body cells and potentially impact long term health. Apparently, if
Speaker 9: I become a vegetarian within a week, everything will get
Speaker 9: dramatically better. And I don't know what that whole information thing.
Speaker 9: For twenty years now, I've read about this will be
Speaker 9: good for inflammation, this will be good for inflammation. I
Speaker 9: don't have any idea what that's about.
Speaker 6: Do you?
Speaker 9: I have no idea what that's about. Eight hundred eight
Speaker 9: four eight nine two two two. But this study worries
Speaker 9: me because it gives vegetarians more ammunition. I don't want
Speaker 9: vegetarians to have any more ammunition. I don't want to
Speaker 9: hear any more about vegetarianism, because whenever I've done like
Speaker 9: a week or two is a vegetarian. The the problem
Speaker 9: with being a vegetarian is that I get very hungry
Speaker 9: and very grumpy. I need the browns, I need brown rice, bread,
Speaker 9: brown bread, pedas, all of that stuff. I need the carbs,
Speaker 9: and then I'm happy. But if I'm just eating lima beans,
Speaker 9: string beans, broccoli, or God help us, beats, there's no
Speaker 9: happiness there it never gets better, and I'm always then
Speaker 9: surrounded by oh, are you still a vegetarian? Are you
Speaker 9: still a vegetarian? You know what they're asking right now
Speaker 9: in Chicago, they're saying, what radio station is carrying the
Speaker 9: other side of midnight in Chicago?
Speaker 12: It's WG And I've got some sad news for you
Speaker 12: about Rod Stewart.
Speaker 2: And his farewell tour.
Speaker 12: Yeah, the eighty one year old rock legend has canceled
Speaker 12: the remaining dates on his One Last Time Farewell tour
Speaker 12: after doctors advised him to take about four weeks to
Speaker 12: recover after he just underwent a stint procedure.
Speaker 2: He had a core Yeah, a coronary stint.
Speaker 12: So the good news is he's already on the end
Speaker 12: and back to his daily activities. However, doctors that you
Speaker 12: can't go right back to the stage. Yeah, So he
Speaker 12: had already postponed his Sunday show in Cincinnati, canceled Tuesday
Speaker 12: night's concert in Cleveland, and the tour was supposed to
Speaker 12: continue through September third, with a six night residency in
Speaker 12: Vegas and several dates in Mexico. Rod Stewart says he's
Speaker 12: very much on the mend and he's disappointed to miss
Speaker 12: out on these final shows, so we wish him the
Speaker 12: best in a continued speedy recovery.
Speaker 13: I want to know what you find like interesting or
Speaker 13: hard to reckon with in terms of aging, or like,
Speaker 13: what's what's good about getting older? What's less good? And
Speaker 13: I don't just mean like, I don't just mean physically,
Speaker 13: but metaphysically too.
Speaker 9: There's nothing good about it.
Speaker 13: Nothing wisdom, No, nothing.
Speaker 14: You don't get wisdom. We forget everything, forgot oh my wisdom.
Speaker 14: I might have had a coble of pearls drop, but
Speaker 14: I think you got what they are. So no, it's
Speaker 14: not it's not particularly pleasant. And of course you can't
Speaker 14: do things as quickly as you want to and all
Speaker 14: actually and physically physically, you can't do things that you
Speaker 14: would like to do.
Speaker 9: You've got to be you have to be more careful.
Speaker 14: You can still do them, you have to be more
Speaker 14: careful when you do them. You know, when if you're
Speaker 14: playing goalie in the football team and you're okay, you're
Speaker 14: going goal, don't you put you in goal a lot?
Speaker 14: I'm not really very good at It's.
Speaker 9: A metaphor for aging being put in goal.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the biggest all eggs in American radio.
Speaker 6: So I have decided to start the process of freezing
Speaker 6: my eggs.
Speaker 9: That's the process of aging. But the process for aging
Speaker 9: for a guy is the same and with the same challenges.
Speaker 9: And the challenge is that AOC complains that there's no
Speaker 9: insurance to protect her to protect her eggs. There's no
Speaker 9: insurance to protect her eggs, that she can't get them
Speaker 9: harvested for free, she can't store them for free, she
Speaker 9: can't color them at Easter for free. All of these
Speaker 9: things need to be covered by insurance, she says. I
Speaker 9: happen to agree with her. But at the same time,
Speaker 9: men are equally challenged in aging and in sex, which
Speaker 9: with ED. There's no insurance that will cover ed treatments, therapies, psychiatry, none.
Speaker 9: And yet over half the men in America not only
Speaker 9: have failing marriages, but they have ed. Which makes me think,
Speaker 9: if most men in America have ed and they have
Speaker 9: failing marriages, I don't really know why most men get
Speaker 9: up in the morning. And I suspect on a progressive level,
Speaker 9: most men are wondering the very same thing because one
Speaker 9: of the biggest lies, and I've been dazzled by this
Speaker 9: why more men don't say anything, and therefore, as a
Speaker 9: professional talk show host, I will say something. You and
Speaker 9: I do not live in a patriarchy. This is the
Speaker 9: biggest lie of our culture that men are in charge.
Speaker 9: No men get to do hard labor, take out the trash,
Speaker 9: answer the door, answer the bill collectors, go to court,
Speaker 9: get dragged in for ugliness, deal with relatives they do
Speaker 9: not want to talk to at all. Considering your relationship,
Speaker 9: if you, the wife, want your husband to go to
Speaker 9: an event with all of your relatives, does he have
Speaker 9: a choice. No, he's going to that event. He knows
Speaker 9: if he doesn't go to the event, he will hear
Speaker 9: about it for the next eighteen and a half years.
Speaker 9: But if he wants you to go to an event
Speaker 9: with his relatives, you're probably a little too busy that day.
Speaker 9: You're probably a little too I've seen this a million
Speaker 9: times with my in laws. I've seen it where the
Speaker 9: wife will say, Okay, we're going to go to this event.
Speaker 9: We have to go to Susan's birthday and you go,
Speaker 9: and then he goes, well, you know, my brother's having
Speaker 9: a birthday, it's his fortieth birthday. You want to go?
Speaker 5: Oh?
Speaker 9: No, I can't do that. Remember twenty eight years ago
Speaker 9: he said that thing to us. That's how it goes.
Speaker 9: But you and I do not live in a patriarchy.
Speaker 9: We live in a matriarchy. Women are in charge. And
Speaker 9: I never understood when I got into grown up land
Speaker 9: and I hear about protests and concerns about women need
Speaker 9: to be in charge, they need to have this job.
Speaker 9: And I'm looking around, Like when I grew up in Jersey,
Speaker 9: the moms were in charge. There was no dad in
Speaker 9: charge that in any household I was aware of at
Speaker 9: any time. Here's how it would go. If I went
Speaker 9: to their house and it was a fun time, like
Speaker 9: six in the evening, Mom would be on the phone
Speaker 9: with somebody. The kids would bring her their problems, not him.
Speaker 9: They'd bring her the problems because she had the solution
Speaker 9: they If the kids brought dad the problem, he could
Speaker 9: be overruled. Mom could say no, we're not doing that,
Speaker 9: that's not what we're going to do, and that would
Speaker 9: be the end of it. There'd be no more conversation.
Speaker 9: That would be the end of it, no more chat.
Speaker 9: If there was a big problem one of the kids
Speaker 9: that actually caused real trouble, the moms would gather around
Speaker 9: and clear up the situation. They'd get on the phones.
Speaker 9: They would talk to each other. Don't you know the rabbi,
Speaker 9: don't you know the priest or? One of them knew
Speaker 9: the most powerful person in the community, the produce manager
Speaker 9: at Shopwright. The produce manager at Shopwright controlled the community.
Speaker 9: If you had a relationship with the produce manager at shopright,
Speaker 9: you were gold, You were good. Everything would be fine.
Speaker 9: And one mom always did another one knew the police chief,
Speaker 9: the superintendent of the schools. The men knew nobody. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I think I played golf with him once. Shush, Just
Speaker 9: go read the paper. Sit over there and be quiet.
Speaker 9: Women decide where men sit in the house that a
Speaker 9: man's income bought mortgage papers that he signed. He doesn't
Speaker 9: get to decide where to sit, does he. A woman
Speaker 9: will say, no, don't sit on that chair, we're having company.
Speaker 9: Don't sit on that sofa. No, no, don't sit there.
Speaker 9: Why don't you spend some more time in the basement
Speaker 9: doing your projects, And she would send him down to
Speaker 9: the basement. He could sit wherever he wanted in the basement,
Speaker 9: but he could not sit anywhere that he wanted in
Speaker 9: the TV room, in the living room, in the dining room. Now,
Speaker 9: let George sit at the head of the table. He
Speaker 9: couldn't even decide if where to sit at the head
Speaker 9: of the table. And therefore I have always been mystified.
Speaker 9: I have been puzzled as to why there's this notion
Speaker 9: that men are in charge. Men are in charge of nothing.
Speaker 9: Men get to build, they get to work all the
Speaker 9: crappy jobs, sanitation workers. I've never seen a woman sanitation worker.
Speaker 9: I've never seen a woman building a bridge. I've never
Speaker 9: seen a woman paving a road. I've never seen them.
Speaker 9: What do women do? And it's fine, but recognize what
Speaker 9: it is. Women have thought leadership jobs. They are thought leaders.
Speaker 9: I love that title. That is the biggest BS job
Speaker 9: in the world. Yes, well, you know in my business
Speaker 9: I'm a thought leader. Really, you're a thought leader? Where's
Speaker 9: that degree? Does be you off for the degree in
Speaker 9: thought leadership? Can I get that from McGill? From my
Speaker 9: Canadian friends? Is that? What the hell is thought leadership?
Speaker 9: You mean you write an article, you write a blog
Speaker 9: on LinkedIn that has a new idea. Oh my gosh,
Speaker 9: you must be a thought leader? Does that pay?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 9: But women are in charge at media companies, media buying companies.
Speaker 9: Often at bank branches. The head of your branch at
Speaker 9: your banks, that a man or a woman. Oh, it's
Speaker 9: a woman, you see. They're in charge of the gatekeeping.
Speaker 9: They're in charge of the thought jobs, public relations, government jobs,
Speaker 9: public relations. I said that advertising agencies, banking, accounting, that's
Speaker 9: where they're in charge. They're in charge of that. Therefore,
Speaker 9: and teachers. I therefore, I've never understood the conversation about
Speaker 9: men need to be less in charge. Men don't get
Speaker 9: this side anything, anything do we eight hundred eight four
Speaker 9: eight nine two two two. Eight hundred eight four eight
Speaker 9: nine two two two. Look around where you're working right now.
Speaker 9: Who's the supervisor at the Amazon warehouse. Who's the supervisor
Speaker 9: the dispatcher at the truck company. Who's the dispatcher on
Speaker 9: that radio. Even when you watch suspicious television shows such
Speaker 9: as American Pickers. American Pickers, they go out into barns
Speaker 9: that have been well scoped by the producers to make
Speaker 9: an offer on an empty oil can. I'll give you
Speaker 9: twenty five bucks for this empty oil can. There aren't
Speaker 9: any others like this. This discounts as compelling TV, right,
Speaker 9: But who sends them out on American pickers, who decides
Speaker 9: where they go? A woman? A woman says you should
Speaker 9: go to Big George's barn. He's got some interesting stuff,
Speaker 9: and they do it immediately. They don't even say, oh, yeah, George,
Speaker 9: he's a jerk. No, no, none of that. They just go.
Speaker 9: That's what's so weird to me. Therefore, I don't know
Speaker 9: where that dynamic, where the cultural belief is that women
Speaker 9: are in charge. I'm sorry, I take it back, that
Speaker 9: men are in charge. I don't know where the cultural
Speaker 9: belief comes from. It's weird to me. All Right, You
Speaker 9: and I should talk about this because it's disturbing. On
Speaker 9: the Great Shift, the Late Shift, the first shift eight
Speaker 9: hundred eight four eight nine two to two, eight hundred
Speaker 9: eighty four eight nine two two two. Let's see what
Speaker 9: do we?
Speaker 6: Oh?
Speaker 9: Yeah. Mick Jagger recently celebrated his eighty third birthday. You
Speaker 9: heard him yap in there. He and his bandmates and
Speaker 9: the Rolling Stones are still making new music. But he
Speaker 9: was candid about his dislike for getting older, and he
Speaker 9: just explained that You and I heard Mick Jagger say
Speaker 9: he really doesn't like getting older, and yet they're going
Speaker 9: to put out a new album. There's nothing more miserable
Speaker 9: than a legacy band putting out a new album. We
Speaker 9: never like it. It may be great music, doesn't sync
Speaker 9: up with the album they put out forty eight years ago.
Speaker 9: It's kind of different that the last album they put out,
Speaker 9: which was forty eight years ago, doesn't sync up. When
Speaker 9: legacy bands put out new albums. We're always vaguely miserable
Speaker 9: about that, aren't we. Do you remember about twelve thirteen
Speaker 9: years ago, Paul McCartney put out an album of standards,
Speaker 9: you know, from the Great American Songbook. He put out standards.
Speaker 9: You and I don't want to hear. Paul McCartney putting
Speaker 9: out standards not a good plan. The Other side of
Speaker 9: Midnight eight hundred and eight four eight nine two to
Speaker 9: two two Walter Sterling. This is the Red Apple Audio Networks.
Speaker 1: The other side of Midnight with Walter Sterling. The other
Speaker 1: side of Midnight with Walter Sterling.
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Speaker 9: John Katzimatini's explaining why it's the government owned stores in
Speaker 9: New York bad idea. Jeff and Los Angeles, Welcome to
Speaker 9: the Other side of Midnight with Walter Sterling. Hi Jeff, Well,
Speaker 9: good morning.
Speaker 6: How are you doing.
Speaker 9: Hello, I'm very excited to talk to you.
Speaker 6: Thank you. I love your show. I just got into
Speaker 6: it a couple months ago and I lay awake all
Speaker 6: night listening to you. Wow, but I'm three hours behind you.
Speaker 6: But we're talking about marriage as marriages don't work.
Speaker 9: Why don't marriages work?
Speaker 6: Well, first of all, it's about two things. In my opinion,
Speaker 6: it's it's money and sect. If you have If you
Speaker 6: don't have either one, it's not going to work. If
Speaker 6: you have one and you.
Speaker 9: Have a shot, that makes sense. Were you married?
Speaker 6: Oh yeah, I was married for eighteen years.
Speaker 9: And what ended your marriage?
Speaker 6: Well, to be honest, it's just we drifted apart. I
Speaker 6: was I had a great job. I was in the
Speaker 6: entertainment business, the music business, and the business went and
Speaker 6: faded away and I lost my job, lost my money,
Speaker 6: lost my dignity, and I started wandering around for other women,
Speaker 6: cat and around.
Speaker 9: Well, and how did that go?
Speaker 3: Well?
Speaker 6: I have some pretty good times. But you know, once
Speaker 6: the money ran out and the good times going to
Speaker 6: the parties and Grammy parties and rock concerts and backstage
Speaker 6: and hanging at nightclubs with the rock stars, it was
Speaker 6: all over.
Speaker 9: And did your wife find out that you were chatting around?
Speaker 6: Well, she never admitted it, but she was a smart woman.
Speaker 6: She knew.
Speaker 9: And do you think she do you think she had affairs.
Speaker 6: To No, not at all. She was a stand up woman.
Speaker 9: Well, so it's money and sex, That's what I think.
Speaker 6: It's very simple, very simple.
Speaker 9: Well, it is very simple. And that's a really good point.
Speaker 9: It's so easy to make things very complicated. Most things
Speaker 9: aren't very complicated. Jeff, I'm really flatter. I'm really flattered.
Speaker 9: You like the show Where in La do you live?
Speaker 6: I live in Kenoga Park, the San Fernando Valley.
Speaker 9: And are you working now?
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'm going. I'm seventy three years old and I
Speaker 6: sew shoes at a high end department store, lady shoes.
Speaker 9: And what's the biggest misconception men have about ladies' shoes?
Speaker 6: They can't make up their mind. Yeah, they can't make it.
Speaker 6: They don't know what they want. They don't know what
Speaker 6: they want. They come in, you know, what are you
Speaker 6: looking for, lady? And they don't know what they.
Speaker 9: Want, but they know they know they want new shoes.
Speaker 9: The relationship between women and shoes is something men will
Speaker 9: never understand.
Speaker 6: Well, I feel like I'm a therapist for women. Yes,
Speaker 6: they share that, they share their problems with me, and
Speaker 6: I control them. I'm not a chief therapist, you know,
Speaker 6: like they're their hair dresser, Like they're like they're actual therapists.
Speaker 6: I'm like the third or fourth one down?
Speaker 9: Got it? And do they tell you you're their big secrets?
Speaker 6: Fey times? Yeah, all kinds of stories.
Speaker 9: Have you ever been embarrassed? Have you ever been so
Speaker 9: embarrassed you don't want to hear their story?
Speaker 6: I'm sorry, sit anything.
Speaker 9: Have you ever been so embarrassed you don't want to
Speaker 9: hear their story?
Speaker 12: Well?
Speaker 6: I sometimes get cross streasures to come in.
Speaker 9: And how embarrassing is that?
Speaker 6: Well? I find it kind of fundy to be honest. Really,
Speaker 6: I mean, having a guy that's like sixty one wanting
Speaker 6: a pair of shoes that are sice.
Speaker 9: Twelve, that is pretty funny. All right, my friend, you're
Speaker 9: a good guy. Jeff, Thank you very much for calling
Speaker 9: call again anytime. Eight hundred eight four eight nine two
Speaker 9: two two. Eight hundred eight four eight nine two two two.
Speaker 9: You and I are talking about the greatest mystery there is,
Speaker 9: which is how to make a marriage successful. There's no
Speaker 9: more important mystery and no more profound mystery, because usually
Speaker 9: when there's advice given as to how to make a
Speaker 9: marriage work, it's given by women's publications to women, and again,
Speaker 9: women are in charge. This is a matriarchy. You and
Speaker 9: I live in a matriarchy, not a patriarchy, a matriarchy.
Speaker 9: And then there's almost no advice on how to make
Speaker 9: a marriage work given to men. You don't see almost none.
Speaker 9: In fact, I'm thinking about publications that appeal to men, Golf, Digest,
Speaker 9: popular mechanics. I never see any advice in those publications
Speaker 9: on how to make a marriage work. Two men, how
Speaker 9: do you feel about that? Eight hundred eight four eight
Speaker 9: nine two two eight hundred eight four eight nine two
Speaker 9: two two. Coming up, we have Dave Scott, who's going
Speaker 9: to explain that last night he wanted to be on
Speaker 9: this show and he couldn't do it, and the reason
Speaker 9: he couldn't do it was because the Canadian wildfires are
Speaker 9: so bad. That it knocked out his voice, made it
Speaker 9: difficult for him to see. And one of the great
Speaker 9: myths is that the Canadian wildfires are wood burning fires.
Speaker 9: They are not. They are wood and chemical burning fires.
Speaker 9: The fact is that all of those trees that are
Speaker 9: torturing us have been sprayed with chemicals. Which chemical have
Speaker 9: they been sprayed with in Canada? The same one that's
Speaker 9: in round Up? Yeah, the weed killer round Up, same chemical.
Speaker 9: And what happened with Roundup in our country, Well, what
Speaker 9: happened in round Up in our country was a big
Speaker 9: lawsuit that the manufacturer lost. How they keep making Roundup
Speaker 9: I don't quite understand, but that's for scientists, and I
Speaker 9: think we can agree. I'm not a scientist. You and
Speaker 9: I can stay in contact at all times. It's Walter
Speaker 9: dot Sterling at WABC radio dot com. And unlike other hosts,
Speaker 9: I actually answer the emails, And unlike other hosts, I'm
Speaker 9: really happy with the hours that I'm on and the
Speaker 9: hours that I'm on total during the week. Couple days ago,
Speaker 9: I said, you know, I'm on more hours than any
Speaker 9: other host on this network, and I am. But that
Speaker 9: wasn't a complaint. That was a blessing. Because the more
Speaker 9: hours that I'm on the air here, the less hours
Speaker 9: i'm home there are fewer. It is much easier for
Speaker 9: me to go to work than it is for me
Speaker 9: to be at home. And I have a good marriage
Speaker 9: and beautiful daughters, but they always want things. The demands
Speaker 9: are insanely long. You may have that problem as well.
Speaker 9: The demands are profound. But when I said yeah, I'm
Speaker 9: on the air more than any other host, my gosh,
Speaker 9: there was this insane rift of conversation on social media. Well, no,
Speaker 9: he's not as much as this one or this one.
Speaker 9: You know, Sid's on just as many. No, Sid, who's
Speaker 9: the morning man in New York. No, he's not on
Speaker 9: more hours than I am. I am on. Look, Matt's
Speaker 9: all nervous about this. I'm on twenty three hours a week,
Speaker 9: and Sid's on twenty five times for twenty he's on twenty.
Speaker 9: I'm on twenty three. What where did the three come from?
Speaker 9: I do a network show on a three hour network
Speaker 9: show on Sundays. Yes, no one else does that, but
Speaker 9: that's not a complaint. Don't get confused, very happy about that,
Speaker 9: And then others would say it was really funny, what
Speaker 9: the social media said, well, you know, is he counting
Speaker 9: prep time is because it doesn't sound like it's prep
Speaker 9: The show doesn't sound like it's prepped at all. And
Speaker 9: then they go, well, you know, Dominic works really hard. Yeah,
Speaker 9: I know, dumb. Well, he's on, you know, an hour
Speaker 9: a day, but he works really hard at it. Hi,
Speaker 9: I work really hard at it because I love being
Speaker 9: on with you on the Great Shift, The Late Shift.
Speaker 9: Walter Sterling The Other Side of Midnight eight hundred eight
Speaker 9: four eight nine two two two eight hundred eight four
Speaker 9: eight nine two two two. This is the Red Apple
Speaker 9: Audio Networks.
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