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Speaker 2: How you guys doing fantastic? How you feeling about them? Koogs?
Speaker 1: You're feeling optimistic after that dominating win over the TCU
horn Frogs.
Speaker 3: I am feeling great I'm obviously a little nervous that
whether we get a shot at the playoff or not,
But I my blue doggle takes as always think that
it's not impossible for us to be TECH. I think
too many people are already just defeat us, that we're
gonna get to that conference championship game and still not
be able to win. I'm not saying I think that
it's a guarantee win, but I definitely think it's possible,
more than maybe some of the fan base thinks it is.
Speaker 1: One at a time, Braden one out of timey Eyu's
only a two and a half point favorite versus the Bearcats,
ladies and gentlemen.
Speaker 3: I think the team's coming in with I guess maybe
I hope the team comes with the same urgency they
did last week for TCU. I think they know there's
unfinished business, and I think that Tech loss really refocused
them and got them to a spot where I don't
think they're gonna take any any game. For granted, me
as a fan, I'm taking it. I'm not taking any
game one game at a time. I'm going playoff or bust.
But this kidding, no, I really do think that the
team's gonna look at it the right way and and
go into this this Cincy game. I'm ready to pounce
and go and dominate the game. Honestly, I'm not saying
they're going to, but I think they're that's the mindset,
and I think they do end up winning by a
score or two.
Speaker 1: So the ramifications of a loss are dire for BYU fans.
Speaker 2: I don't want to be bear mungmering here.
Speaker 1: I want to move forward with faith obviously, but uh,
there's a lot of tie breaking scenarios that you don't
want to be a part of.
Speaker 2: Right now, you're the master around destiny.
Speaker 1: Last year b YU flailed, they found folly on the
back end of their schedule, losing to Kansas and ASU.
What makes you believe that that Texas Tech loss will
turn into a second loss with Cincinnati on the road.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think I I think you're definitely
right that we do not want to get in a
tiebreaker scenario because I think and I know, the tiebreaker
scenarios are all crazy complicated. But I think as soon
as we go down into those two losses where all
of a sudden, now in a spot where I think
you time ends up having a tiebreaker over US just
based on strength to schedule and things like that. So
I don't feel I feel like they learned the lesson
last year. I think they're going to come out and
be able to do it. I really think it's more
of a yeah, last year thing than it is the
Tech thing. I think the tech woke them back up
to it, Tom reminded them like where they're at. But
I think last year's situation is really what's motivating this
team to keep going forward. And that's why I have
fates that are really not going to drop the next
two games, just because I think they know how important
it is and how easy it can slip away from them.
Speaker 1: Yeah, these tie breaking scenarios quite interesting. The Big Twelve
put it out officially. The following steps will be used
as the tiebreaker procedures to determine the participants for the
two thousand, twenty five Edward Jones Big Twelve Football Championship Game.
If two teams are tied in the Big Twelve standings
conference games only, the following steps will be taken until
a determination is made a listen to this Bradon Day,
the Tide teams will be compared based on their head
to head record during the season who won.
Speaker 2: The head to head right.
Speaker 1: B the Tide teams will be compared based on the
win percentage against all common conference opponents. C the Tide
teams will be compared based on the winning percentage against
the next highest placed common opponent in the standings based
on the record in all games played within.
Speaker 2: The conference proceeding through the standings.
Speaker 1: D the Tide teams will be compared based on the
combined winning percentage in conference games of conference opponents. E
The Tight teams will be compared based on the total
number of wins today twelve game season.
Speaker 2: And then F.
Speaker 1: The representative will be chosen based on the highest ranking
by Sports Source Analytics the team Rating score metric following
the last weekend of regular season games.
Speaker 2: And then ge.
Speaker 1: Jesson the representative will be chosen by a coin toss.
Speaker 3: There you have it, But I guess are they saying
that there's a chance that that Sports Reference or whatever
it was is going to have the exact same ranking
at that point? So that's I can't guess you get
that last one like I get where all of those
other ones could technically have things, but couldn't that that
rating system should always have the same Yeah, but that's crazy.
And then and that's the thing, right, so head to
head even if if let's say, sinc if we do
lose this game, you can't go to head to head
because we lose to Cincy. We beat you, U Utah
beat Cincy. There's not a that that type breaker scenario
doesn't work. And so I understand the kind of why
they have to go to those next steps. Yeah, we
don't want to have to deal with that. And I
think that's the thing we lost out last year due
to due to typereaker scenarios, and I just don't I
don't think this team's going to allow that to happen
again this year.
Speaker 1: Much of the rhetorics surrounding BYU right now is that
they just weren't competitive in that Texas Tech game, and
that's why they don't deserve to be higher than the
eleventh spot into college football playoffs. You look at like
equity and like these brands right over a long period
of time, and you know, Notre Dame is always going
to get the benefit of doubt.
Speaker 2: You know, Miami's gonna get the benefited out sometimes.
Speaker 1: You know, like a lot of these brands, Alabama and
the SEC, they're always going to get the benefit of
the doubt. And BA is not there yet despite over
the last two years, like right now, they're collective record
over the last year's twenty and three, that's the best
of the Big twelve.
Speaker 2: Uh and UH.
Speaker 1: All we're talking about is more margin of victory and
that Texas Tech game. B Why you lose wins too
many games that are too close and they lost that
Texas Tech Game by too many points?
Speaker 2: What do you make of all of it?
Speaker 3: And I can't remember I've talked about this on the show,
but I here's my take on this. If the goal
was to win big, we would try and win big.
But Kilane and a Rod and j Hill, I think
they have a collective like their ideas winning is more
important than winning big, and so we're not going to
risk put ourselves at risk not winning the game in
order to be extra you know, aggressive in certain areas
and throw picks and do certain things like that that
may make it so we're winning games bigger. But if
that were the goal that we were going for, that
was the actual job to be done, then that's what
we would do. And I think we would show out different.
But that's the problem that I have with this is
we're ranking everything based on gain control and how you know,
all these different different metrics, not on the wins. But
the actual metric that we're asking the teams to do
is win. But are we actually asking that now? And
that's where I wonder kind of with Koloni's statements this week.
And you know, winning is the most important, I agree,
but I do feel like that's becoming not as important
as the metrics of margin of victory and all those
different things that are going on or who you played,
who you lost to. But winning isn't as valued, but
it should be because that is what the job to
be done is. And if we had, if we made
the other things the job to be done and that
was our goal. Arod was called the offense difference, we'd
call the defense different to gain those specific things and
we would look different analytically.
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Speaker 1: A couple last questions for all for you, for all
the Cougar fans to debate about. Look, b, why you
need someone in front of them to lose most likely,
even if you went out and you keep it competitive
versus Texas Tech. Let's say you lose that game in
the Big Twelve Championship game, you may not be going
to the College Football Playoffs. You need Alabama to lose
maybe at Auburn in the Iron Bowl. You need Notre
Dame maybe to lose to maybe a Syracuse team who's
in the middle of the pack. You need Oklahoma possibly
to lose to. I think they play what LSU.
Speaker 2: In Mississippi State.
Speaker 1: They got Mississippi State and LSU one of those three teams.
That's like my Tier one guys that, hey, we need
one of these two three teams to lose. My Tier
two is like, Okay, ole Miss. I think Ole Miss
could possibly lose Oregon, organ could possibly two game USC.
But but does it does a two loss Oregon team
drop out of the top ten?
Speaker 3: I think so?
Speaker 2: Really?
Speaker 3: I mean, okay, I think they should. I guess I
have no idea, but I also think Notre Dame shouldnt
you where they are? But but I really think with
where the rings right this second, I think if they
lost another one, there is some worry that USC all
of a sudden then jumps back in and they both
just stay right there clumps, But I think they I
think that's our best bet. Truthfully, the most likely bet.
Our best bet would be having you know, Alabama loose
again or something like that. But I think having our
most likely situation is that USC could could pull that
upside off in at Oregon and do that.
Speaker 1: So yeah, they Look, they face a ranked USC team
and then they take their talents to Washington. Look, if
you go side by side, b Yu's resume is better
than Oregon's quite honestly. But whatever it is matter, It
doesn't matter the games you play. That's just about how
you're trending right now. It's how you're trending right now,
not what you did four or five, six, seven, eight
weeks ago.
Speaker 2: No more.
Speaker 1: It's about how you're trending and what conference you're a
part of. That's how the cookies crumbling this year anyway,
And if.
Speaker 3: The team and if the team you played was ranked
like number two when you played them, but they're actually
abysmal now, like we don't care, we don't care what
they are now, Like okay, well EACU team, EACU team.
But we played though everybody thought was best that actually
might go win to the American Like what about that?
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1: So like if I'm looking at you know, I'm looking
at like these, uh these resumes right now? Oregon versus
b YU, Oregon versus the current top twenty five oh one.
Their best win is against a six and four Iowa team.
Second best win is a six and four Minnesota team.
They lost at home to number two Indiana BYU's one
and one versus the current top twenty five best win
and one of those teams. The one lost is the
top five team. Best win is number twelve Utah. Their
second best win is seven and three Arizona, And uh,
you know that seems like a better resume.
Speaker 2: I'll be honest, right, come on, yeah, it is.
Speaker 1: For the love of all that's holy, give me some love.
Who's the most likely to lose out of these teams?
Do you think on the back end Oklahoma, Notre Dame,
Alabama or Oregon?
Speaker 2: What do you think?
Speaker 3: Oregon?
Speaker 2: Do you think?
Speaker 3: I think Notre Dame is the one that would help
us the most. Is somehow they lost just because I
think they're already getting the most amount of they're overrated.
The most amount, so it'd be really hard to actually
keep going. But I just don't think they're gonna lose
their last two games. They have played nobody outside of
the two teams they lost.
Speaker 1: To take on the number twenty two Maszoo Tigers and
then Crewszoo.
Speaker 2: They're at home both these games, so they have Miszoo
and l s U.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think I think Oregon's a little bit
more like Oregon's not tested either, and they're playing the
the the best team with also not being tested where
I do think that Oklahoma's been more tested than I
think Oregon has, so I think there's more a better
chance that Oregon's more of a paper tiger than than Oklahomas.
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