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Speaker 2: Get to get into a little college football segment. But

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before we do, want to give big.

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Speaker 1: Cougar or to Low Peak and Quarterer Canyon duking it

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out once again. Lots of recruits byu you, recruits out

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of state recruits as well, a lot of PEOPO institutions

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probably be watching this game. Lots of great players right now.

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Update score updates ten to seven. Loan Peak Go nights. Yeah, Buddy,

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Low Peak inchin maybe away from the quarter Canyon football team.

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So Bob Mulatalo baby byu KU commit Cougar fans keeping

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their fingers crossed that they can flip guys like Jared

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and Kennon Pula to four stars wide receiver and defense

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are back. I don't know if that's gonna happen. Maybe

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it will, maybe it won't. We'll keep an eye on

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it though. Some good football players in the mix. But

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Speaker 2: How you guys doing fantastic? How you feeling about them? Koogs?

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Speaker 1: You're feeling optimistic after that dominating win over the TCU

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horn Frogs.

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Speaker 3: I am feeling great I'm obviously a little nervous that

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whether we get a shot at the playoff or not,

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But I my blue doggle takes as always think that

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it's not impossible for us to be TECH. I think

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too many people are already just defeat us, that we're

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gonna get to that conference championship game and still not

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be able to win. I'm not saying I think that

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it's a guarantee win, but I definitely think it's possible,

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more than maybe some of the fan base thinks it is.

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Speaker 1: One at a time, Braden one out of timey Eyu's

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only a two and a half point favorite versus the Bearcats,

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ladies and gentlemen.

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Speaker 3: I think the team's coming in with I guess maybe

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I hope the team comes with the same urgency they

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did last week for TCU. I think they know there's

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unfinished business, and I think that Tech loss really refocused

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them and got them to a spot where I don't

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think they're gonna take any any game. For granted, me

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as a fan, I'm taking it. I'm not taking any

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game one game at a time. I'm going playoff or bust.

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But this kidding, no, I really do think that the

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team's gonna look at it the right way and and

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go into this this Cincy game. I'm ready to pounce

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and go and dominate the game. Honestly, I'm not saying

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they're going to, but I think they're that's the mindset,

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and I think they do end up winning by a

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Speaker 1: So the ramifications of a loss are dire for BYU fans.

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Speaker 2: I don't want to be bear mungmering here.

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Speaker 1: I want to move forward with faith obviously, but uh,

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there's a lot of tie breaking scenarios that you don't

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want to be a part of.

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Speaker 2: Right now, you're the master around destiny.

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Speaker 1: Last year b YU flailed, they found folly on the

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back end of their schedule, losing to Kansas and ASU.

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What makes you believe that that Texas Tech loss will

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turn into a second loss with Cincinnati on the road.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think I I think you're definitely

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right that we do not want to get in a

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tiebreaker scenario because I think and I know, the tiebreaker

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scenarios are all crazy complicated. But I think as soon

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as we go down into those two losses where all

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you time ends up having a tiebreaker over US just

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based on strength to schedule and things like that. So

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I don't feel I feel like they learned the lesson

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last year. I think they're going to come out and

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be able to do it. I really think it's more

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of a yeah, last year thing than it is the

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Tech thing. I think the tech woke them back up

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to it, Tom reminded them like where they're at. But

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I think last year's situation is really what's motivating this

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team to keep going forward. And that's why I have

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fates that are really not going to drop the next

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two games, just because I think they know how important

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it is and how easy it can slip away from them.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, these tie breaking scenarios quite interesting. The Big Twelve

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put it out officially. The following steps will be used

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as the tiebreaker procedures to determine the participants for the

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two thousand, twenty five Edward Jones Big Twelve Football Championship Game.

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If two teams are tied in the Big Twelve standings

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conference games only, the following steps will be taken until

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a determination is made a listen to this Bradon Day,

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the Tide teams will be compared based on their head

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to head record during the season who won.

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Speaker 2: The head to head right.

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Speaker 1: B the Tide teams will be compared based on the

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win percentage against all common conference opponents. C the Tide

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teams will be compared based on the winning percentage against

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the next highest placed common opponent in the standings based

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on the record in all games played within.

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Speaker 2: The conference proceeding through the standings.

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Speaker 1: D the Tide teams will be compared based on the

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combined winning percentage in conference games of conference opponents. E

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The Tight teams will be compared based on the total

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number of wins today twelve game season.

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Speaker 2: And then F.

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Speaker 1: The representative will be chosen based on the highest ranking

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by Sports Source Analytics the team Rating score metric following

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the last weekend of regular season games.

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Speaker 2: And then ge.

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Speaker 1: Jesson the representative will be chosen by a coin toss.

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Speaker 3: There you have it, But I guess are they saying

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that there's a chance that that Sports Reference or whatever

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it was is going to have the exact same ranking

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at that point? So that's I can't guess you get

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that last one like I get where all of those

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other ones could technically have things, but couldn't that that

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rating system should always have the same Yeah, but that's crazy.

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head even if if let's say, sinc if we do

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lose this game, you can't go to head to head

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because we lose to Cincy. We beat you, U Utah

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beat Cincy. There's not a that that type breaker scenario

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doesn't work. And so I understand the kind of why

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they have to go to those next steps. Yeah, we

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don't want to have to deal with that. And I

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think that's the thing we lost out last year due

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to due to typereaker scenarios, and I just don't I

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don't think this team's going to allow that to happen

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again this year.

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Speaker 1: Much of the rhetorics surrounding BYU right now is that

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they just weren't competitive in that Texas Tech game, and

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that's why they don't deserve to be higher than the

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eleventh spot into college football playoffs. You look at like

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equity and like these brands right over a long period

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of time, and you know, Notre Dame is always going

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to get the benefit of doubt.

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Speaker 2: You know, Miami's gonna get the benefited out sometimes.

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Speaker 1: You know, like a lot of these brands, Alabama and

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the SEC, they're always going to get the benefit of

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the doubt. And BA is not there yet despite over

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the last two years, like right now, they're collective record

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over the last year's twenty and three, that's the best

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Speaker 2: Uh and UH.

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Speaker 1: All we're talking about is more margin of victory and

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that Texas Tech game. B Why you lose wins too

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many games that are too close and they lost that

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Texas Tech Game by too many points?

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Speaker 2: What do you make of all of it?

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Speaker 3: And I can't remember I've talked about this on the show,

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but I here's my take on this. If the goal

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was to win big, we would try and win big.

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they have a collective like their ideas winning is more

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important than winning big, and so we're not going to

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risk put ourselves at risk not winning the game in

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order to be extra you know, aggressive in certain areas

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and throw picks and do certain things like that that

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may make it so we're winning games bigger. But if

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that were the goal that we were going for, that

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was the actual job to be done, then that's what

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we would do. And I think we would show out different.

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we're ranking everything based on gain control and how you know,

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the actual metric that we're asking the teams to do

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who you lost to. But winning isn't as valued, but

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call the defense different to gain those specific things and

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we would look different analytically.

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Speaker 1: A couple last questions for all for you, for all

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the Cougar fans to debate about. Look, b, why you

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need someone in front of them to lose most likely,

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even if you went out and you keep it competitive

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versus Texas Tech. Let's say you lose that game in

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the Big Twelve Championship game, you may not be going

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to the College Football Playoffs. You need Alabama to lose

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maybe at Auburn in the Iron Bowl. You need Notre

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to lose to. I think they play what LSU.

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Speaker 2: In Mississippi State.

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Speaker 1: They got Mississippi State and LSU one of those three teams.

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That's like my Tier one guys that, hey, we need

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one of these two three teams to lose. My Tier

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could possibly lose Oregon, organ could possibly two game USC.

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Speaker 3: I think so?

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Speaker 2: Really?

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Speaker 3: I mean, okay, I think they should. I guess I

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you where they are? But but I really think with

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where the rings right this second, I think if they

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lost another one, there is some worry that USC all

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of a sudden then jumps back in and they both

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just stay right there clumps, But I think they I

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think that's our best bet. Truthfully, the most likely bet.

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Our best bet would be having you know, Alabama loose

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again or something like that. But I think having our

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most likely situation is that USC could could pull that

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upside off in at Oregon and do that.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, they Look, they face a ranked USC team

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and then they take their talents to Washington. Look, if

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you go side by side, b Yu's resume is better

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than Oregon's quite honestly. But whatever it is matter, It

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doesn't matter the games you play. That's just about how

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you're trending right now. It's how you're trending right now,

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not what you did four or five, six, seven, eight

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weeks ago.

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Speaker 2: No more.

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Speaker 1: It's about how you're trending and what conference you're a

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part of. That's how the cookies crumbling this year anyway,

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And if.

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Speaker 3: The team and if the team you played was ranked

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like number two when you played them, but they're actually

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abysmal now, like we don't care, we don't care what

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they are now, Like okay, well EACU team, EACU team.

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But we played though everybody thought was best that actually

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might go win to the American Like what about that?

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: So like if I'm looking at you know, I'm looking

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at like these, uh these resumes right now? Oregon versus

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b YU, Oregon versus the current top twenty five oh one.

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Their best win is against a six and four Iowa team.

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Second best win is a six and four Minnesota team.

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They lost at home to number two Indiana BYU's one

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and one versus the current top twenty five best win

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and one of those teams. The one lost is the

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top five team. Best win is number twelve Utah. Their

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second best win is seven and three Arizona, And uh,

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you know that seems like a better resume.

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Speaker 2: I'll be honest, right, come on, yeah, it is.

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Speaker 1: For the love of all that's holy, give me some love.

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Who's the most likely to lose out of these teams?

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Do you think on the back end Oklahoma, Notre Dame,

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Alabama or Oregon?

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Speaker 2: What do you think?

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Speaker 3: Oregon?

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Speaker 2: Do you think?

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Speaker 3: I think Notre Dame is the one that would help

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us the most. Is somehow they lost just because I

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think they're already getting the most amount of they're overrated.

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The most amount, so it'd be really hard to actually

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keep going. But I just don't think they're gonna lose

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their last two games. They have played nobody outside of

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the two teams they lost.

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Speaker 1: To take on the number twenty two Maszoo Tigers and

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then Crewszoo.

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Speaker 2: They're at home both these games, so they have Miszoo

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and l s U.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I just think I think Oregon's a little bit

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more like Oregon's not tested either, and they're playing the

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the the best team with also not being tested where

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I do think that Oklahoma's been more tested than I

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think Oregon has, so I think there's more a better

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chance that Oregon's more of a paper tiger than than Oklahomas.

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