Speaker 1: Ladies and gentlemen. Boys and girls, we are back with
Speaker 1: another episode of the New World Podcast Special Guests, and
Speaker 1: we got the three letters from the Lost Burrow. The
Speaker 1: man himself, Lenny Earl Cash. You see him with the
Speaker 1: south side of the shirt. You already know that.
Speaker 2: Baby.
Speaker 1: All day, all day we wrapped in fat. And today
Speaker 1: on today's episode we have a real worker. There's a
Speaker 1: workers episode because we have we have Lenny and we
Speaker 1: have Devious. Cast. If the wrestling jargons start picking up,
Speaker 1: you feel me between.
Speaker 3: On my young man right here.
Speaker 4: He's doing a great job right now on the indies, Gabe,
Speaker 4: go ahead, the angel, but keep going.
Speaker 5: Let's go.
Speaker 1: Let me, let me, let me give him the let
Speaker 1: me give him the short and skinny. Here, ladies and gentlemen,
Speaker 1: this is and if I'm if I'm missing some championships cast,
Speaker 1: let me know. This is the two times skid Row Champion.
Speaker 1: This is the s kp W heavyweight Champion. Geez, and
Speaker 1: this guy is only eighteen years old. Chat Devious passes
Speaker 1: in the building representing Delphia. You already know.
Speaker 3: Already smelling the.
Speaker 1: Gold eighteen eighteen and correct me if I'm wrong. You
Speaker 1: started training when he was twelve.
Speaker 5: Yes, I started training at the age of twelve.
Speaker 3: With parents consent, consent right, like, you ain't go behind
Speaker 3: okay because you know we told you parents right here,
Speaker 3: So I will be crazy if my girl went and
Speaker 3: did that behind my back.
Speaker 1: But what is that twelve twelve years old? Well like
Speaker 1: fifth grade, fourth grade?
Speaker 3: What's going on?
Speaker 5: I think I think it was I think fifth grade
Speaker 5: going the sixth.
Speaker 1: I hacked that, Like how did you do you tell
Speaker 1: your parents you won to wrestle? Sixth gerience?
Speaker 6: So I always wanted to wrestle since, like the age
Speaker 6: of five, I've always been a dream minds. I always
Speaker 6: like wrestled on my trampoline and stuff. But then my
Speaker 6: uncle he uh he was a wrestler and he had
Speaker 6: a tag team partner and he was about to go
Speaker 6: big before he broke his neck and we hit him up.
Speaker 6: At the age of twelve. My dad hit him up
Speaker 6: and he was asking him like, how can I get
Speaker 6: my son into wrestling, like we want to do this?
Speaker 6: He wants to do this, really does. So he contacted
Speaker 6: my trainer. His name's Rod Perfontein, Rob Perfontein, and he
Speaker 6: trained me at the age of twelve. I wasn't no
Speaker 6: normal twelve year old kid, Like I was bigger than
Speaker 6: all the twelve year old kids, and I really wanted it,
Speaker 6: and I would do squats, I would do push ups.
Speaker 6: I didn't even get in the ring first, and I
Speaker 6: still wanted to just be there. So I was really
Speaker 6: grateful to just have that time with him.
Speaker 1: And I'm not going to hold you. Taking bumps at
Speaker 1: twelve is crazy, bro, Like, you're right, Like, that's not
Speaker 1: some average twelve year old stuff.
Speaker 5: No, it's not, it's not.
Speaker 1: Were you always were? You always devious casts at the
Speaker 1: age of twelve.
Speaker 6: Like So, we didn't come up with that name for
Speaker 6: a minute, because I didn't start wrestling until I was thirteen.
Speaker 6: But the way that Devious Cast came up was just
Speaker 6: we were just looking at names, like we see how
Speaker 6: like Roman reigns, it's like Roman and then reins. It's
Speaker 6: like he has some part of his name into it.
Speaker 6: My last name is Castro, So I took out Castro
Speaker 6: and I made a cast, and we were just thinking
Speaker 6: about characters that I want to be and like what
Speaker 6: I want to perceive.
Speaker 5: And I wanted to be a heel at the.
Speaker 3: Time, and I chose to fattle time.
Speaker 5: It sounded right from there.
Speaker 3: It just okay, catch me up to speed.
Speaker 2: That's so.
Speaker 1: Actually the name he was he was actually explaining to
Speaker 1: us how he be how he he started training at
Speaker 1: the age of twelve. Yeah, you said, yeah, I believe
Speaker 1: he said it was used to wrestles.
Speaker 3: That you know he started taking. Yeah, that's definitely is it?
Speaker 2: Is it?
Speaker 4: One of the big motivations for you is just you know,
Speaker 4: you know, follow that that footstep and kind of.
Speaker 3: Like make those dreams happen from through him.
Speaker 5: So so.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 5: So I never really met my uncle.
Speaker 6: I don't really know my dad's side like that, so
Speaker 6: it was more of my dad communicating with him. But
Speaker 6: I do do this for my trainer because he passed
Speaker 6: away and he kind of like called me like his
Speaker 6: lab rat and like he kind of knew like.
Speaker 5: My my courage, and I worked for him for for him,
Speaker 5: that's doper, that's dope Rob Perfontine. And initially he wasn't
Speaker 5: as known as much, but he's around the area.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because I.
Speaker 4: Saw it was a Philly, Jersey and New York. Yes,
Speaker 4: like on your bio.
Speaker 1: All right, so what's it like, what's it? What's it?
Speaker 1: Like growing up, growing up Philly, at the age of twelve,
Speaker 1: wanted to become a wrestler because, like we were saying
Speaker 1: before some average twelve year old stuff. Bro like, it's
Speaker 1: not the age of twelve. I don't remember what I
Speaker 1: was doing, to be honest, I mean, of course I
Speaker 1: was watching wrestling, but like you was really about that life.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I mean, like obviously I'm still a kid. I'm
Speaker 6: I'm in middle school still, so but like it wasn't
Speaker 6: It really wasn't much like I just wanted to get
Speaker 6: in a ring. Like I was just ready to get
Speaker 6: in the ring. I was really excited to get in
Speaker 6: the ring. I wouldn't really like at the time, it
Speaker 6: just felt weird trying to tell kids like, hey, this
Speaker 6: is what I do, because like they just thought it
Speaker 6: was just fake. You know a lot of people think that,
Speaker 6: and it's just it's so uncomfortable, you know, trying to
Speaker 6: show it out as a kid.
Speaker 5: So I always kept it myself. But my dad is
Speaker 5: really just like the person.
Speaker 6: That motivated me to keep doing it, to like just
Speaker 6: just be happy that I do this, Like this is
Speaker 6: hard to do.
Speaker 5: It's not easy to do, so like it kind of
Speaker 5: it kind of can't touch me when I started doing it.
Speaker 6: But like obviously taking the bumps and stuff was like
Speaker 6: a big step in a big that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it takes takes.
Speaker 6: On my body, right, And I think I was just
Speaker 6: I was so happy to just be in the ring.
Speaker 5: I think it just like went all the way. I
Speaker 5: just love doing it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, this guy's a worker for real. So from thirteen
Speaker 1: college he's actually in his dorm.
Speaker 5: I am where do you go at?
Speaker 1: Years of growth?
Speaker 5: Huh?
Speaker 2: Oh?
Speaker 3: I am paid? And what you studying?
Speaker 5: Robert Morris University in Pittsburgh.
Speaker 3: Computer science.
Speaker 4: Man, by the I t in in the you know
Speaker 4: it's not through the yeah, the computer?
Speaker 1: Yeah, I respect it. Do you play? Do you play
Speaker 1: any sports out there?
Speaker 6: Or I wish I did, But I do have an
Speaker 6: academic scholarship and that's why I'm out here.
Speaker 1: Okay, that makes sense? And and when do you like,
Speaker 1: where do you train for wrestling?
Speaker 2: How?
Speaker 1: When?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 1: How do you balance that?
Speaker 6: I arranged my classes around to where I'm all Friday,
Speaker 6: so I'll fly back every Thursday and I will train
Speaker 6: at the Worldwide Dojo Cheeseburger and preacher okay for Fridays,
Speaker 6: and that is Saturdays and Sundays and I go right
Speaker 6: back to school by Monday.
Speaker 1: I respect it.
Speaker 4: I mean, my man's on the scholarship scholars.
Speaker 1: I love it. I love it.
Speaker 4: I'm just honestly, it's a testament for you to even
Speaker 4: say that because you keep people, oh, it's too hard
Speaker 4: to do that. My man flies every week, makes it
Speaker 4: to class, makes it to actual wrestling practice. So for
Speaker 4: all y'all out there that's saying it's not doable, come on.
Speaker 4: It's about how you do it and how you put
Speaker 4: your time in man, appreciate that.
Speaker 3: How much is a really good example of people getting.
Speaker 5: It's how much you want it.
Speaker 1: We're wrestling, Yeah, so what's the farthest you've traveled.
Speaker 5: The farthest I traveled. I wrestled North Carolina before for
Speaker 5: fire Star Pro Wrestling.
Speaker 3: Mm hmm, you drove that.
Speaker 5: Yeah, so it's like a nine hour ride.
Speaker 1: And you drove that or you skin it?
Speaker 3: Man?
Speaker 5: Yes, we did drove. Yeah, I drove with a couple
Speaker 5: of people.
Speaker 1: That's tough. Do you love the road?
Speaker 6: Not really, not as not as much, but I mean
Speaker 6: if it does, it does help me, you know, get
Speaker 6: to where I need to be.
Speaker 1: This is what you want it, right, road, right road.
Speaker 1: You gotta be the road, baby, the road is cool.
Speaker 1: I go hold you. Like me and Lenny we went
Speaker 1: to Jersey and like the camaraderie with the riding, like
Speaker 1: I see, I see what.
Speaker 5: It is moments that.
Speaker 1: The ring up taking the ring with each other afterwards, like.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, I mean, I don't I'm trying to think.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think. I don't remember a lot of moments. Like,
Speaker 5: to be honest with you, I'm still like young, Like
Speaker 5: this is kind of like the first time I've been
Speaker 5: starting traveling.
Speaker 6: I be sleep a lot. Yeah, I do be sleep
Speaker 6: a lot. I'm not gonna lie to you. I be
Speaker 6: hearing conversations. Like at one time, I was in the
Speaker 6: car with Fuego del Soul. We had to drop them
Speaker 6: off from the airport. So it's like I get cool,
Speaker 6: Like I get to be in cars with people and
Speaker 6: like just to get to pick their brain.
Speaker 5: Like I was in the car with e Fie, a.
Speaker 6: Couple other people that are just like you know, no names,
Speaker 6: and I just I'm so grateful to be in the
Speaker 6: car with them because I get to learn more.
Speaker 3: See another side.
Speaker 4: There's a whole nother dynamic to a person you know
Speaker 4: I ain't on front looking at your picks, and then
Speaker 4: I would have never thought you were a student.
Speaker 3: Bro, I'm gonna lie you devious, you know what I mean?
Speaker 4: You kind of just sold the characters just being Cannavin
Speaker 4: and then look at this. This guy's a scholar. This
Speaker 4: guy's a devious scholar man Like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 4: You would have never even put the two to two together.
Speaker 1: Yeah, college, No, yeah, you give you give kids something
Speaker 1: to look up to. I'll tell you that much. Yes, Now,
Speaker 1: how does the You know that we spoke about the traveling?
Speaker 1: So you know, you you you get booked for these
Speaker 1: different promotions up and down the Eastern seaboard. And you
Speaker 1: know what's the difference between the states? Are they similar?
Speaker 1: Do you have a favorite state to work in? Do
Speaker 1: you have a favorite promotion to work in?
Speaker 6: So I always love wrestling Philly, you know, it's like
Speaker 6: it's my home like that that I think that will
Speaker 6: never change.
Speaker 5: But right now that I'm working in is wrestling open.
Speaker 6: I'm just trying to keep my foot in there and
Speaker 6: trying to make my way up.
Speaker 5: There as much as possible.
Speaker 6: You know, I'm trying to be the best I can
Speaker 6: be and try to show them that, you know, they're
Speaker 6: not missing an opportunity on somebody that can be the
Speaker 6: future of their company and hold a belt for them,
Speaker 6: or just be there every day because I'm a workhorse
Speaker 6: and I want to go.
Speaker 5: If it's a live.
Speaker 3: Wrestling opens in a main correct.
Speaker 1: Like this guy's attitude.
Speaker 3: Oh okay, roll down in Massachusets. Okay, I got you.
Speaker 4: I was just wanting to make island in Massachusetts where
Speaker 4: it was exactly so it's not too much of a
Speaker 4: ride if you're already in Philly.
Speaker 3: Hunh for you, gotcha?
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, yeah, yea honestly for five hours. I mean
Speaker 5: some people complain about it.
Speaker 1: On the What are you listening to?
Speaker 6: What do I listen to? What do I listen to?
Speaker 6: I mean, I'm more of like I'm young, so I
Speaker 6: know a lot of people listen to like road Wave,
Speaker 6: like Little Dirk, like like them. Yeah you know what
Speaker 6: I mean. I mean, I'm not I'm not really like,
Speaker 6: I'm not really big in the rap. I kind of
Speaker 6: listened to anything. The only thing I probably won't listen
Speaker 6: to is like hard rock metal. But besides that, I
Speaker 6: listened almost anything.
Speaker 1: I'strict it Yeah, I like it. You know, he's a
Speaker 1: great musical taste. Guys, what your what's your your walcome music.
Speaker 5: It's on YouTube. We kind of found So it's kind
Speaker 5: of like a mix of my themes. It's on YouTube.
Speaker 5: We kind of found it. It's kind of like a
Speaker 5: mix of like XX.
Speaker 6: Actually it's on YouTube and I totally forgot the rest
Speaker 6: of it, but I know it's on YouTube. This would
Speaker 6: just go perfect with My dad found I mean, my
Speaker 6: uncle found it. Actually, he was like, I think this
Speaker 6: would just go perfect with your character.
Speaker 5: It's just a.
Speaker 4: Bunch of like like lyrics.
Speaker 3: Okay, So so I was gonna say, it's so it
Speaker 3: ties into your character.
Speaker 4: So it alludes to America's author, right, So what exactly
Speaker 4: does that mean?
Speaker 3: To be America's author?
Speaker 5: So I try trade that I tell my own story
Speaker 5: in the.
Speaker 6: Ring, So I try to portray that I tell my
Speaker 6: own story rate and I kind of happening try to
Speaker 6: it's going to show that whatever happens in the ring
Speaker 6: or what happens in the match, it going it's going
Speaker 6: my way, And it kind of goes back to that
Speaker 6: I have like controlling chaos and it shows in my
Speaker 6: gear and one side inspire and one side is like
Speaker 6: a bunch of around ladder and I just want to
Speaker 6: portray that I am not somebody to mess around, but
Speaker 6: like I want to get what I want to and
Speaker 6: I'm gonna find a way to get And with my
Speaker 6: music it shows that as well, because it's just a
Speaker 6: bunch of chaos and you can see that I'm controlled
Speaker 6: enough to to show everybody what I'm trying to perceive
Speaker 6: them of.
Speaker 5: What watching inside wrestling.
Speaker 1: Like the gear too. I was watching your the what
Speaker 1: was it the last match?
Speaker 3: I think it was the Canniball.
Speaker 1: Like I love the entrance.
Speaker 5: I love the.
Speaker 1: Big best guy. I'm a big best guy right now.
Speaker 1: It was it was? It was? It was yes in Jersey?
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, no I remember, not in Jersey, it was
Speaker 6: in it was on Massachusetts.
Speaker 1: Gotcha gear? You have to have good gear. I like,
Speaker 1: I'm a big gear person. Like when it comes to wrestling,
Speaker 1: like you could ask Land, we always talk about it.
Speaker 1: Yeah it matters, bro. Gear matters bro because if somebody
Speaker 1: don't like you that like your gear.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 1: Like fell in love with Mike g because he has
Speaker 1: a black leather. He got the Oakley shades on. I
Speaker 1: love Oakley shades. I love that look. So gear matters.
Speaker 1: Music definitely matters. I feel like music is kind of
Speaker 1: a representation of where you're from. So I've always you know,
Speaker 1: I love to see why wrestlers pick the music that
Speaker 1: they pick. Yes, and it's you know again, it all matters.
Speaker 1: It's a whole the part of the character. Now, are
Speaker 1: you currently any anyone that you have any championship belts
Speaker 1: or any.
Speaker 3: Earlier?
Speaker 1: Is that it any place or you know, we got
Speaker 1: to finish that, brother.
Speaker 3: Carolinas, did you?
Speaker 5: I mean, I'm not a real like if a belt
Speaker 5: comes to me, it does come to me. I would
Speaker 5: love to hold a belt, but more.
Speaker 6: More of right now, personally, I think it's like it's
Speaker 6: just more of like I just I just want to
Speaker 6: go against guys that are better than me.
Speaker 4: I got you make it, you make you make the
Speaker 4: belt mean, I just want to guys that are you
Speaker 4: know I.
Speaker 3: Said that right? Yeah, I hope that I was gonna sayest.
Speaker 4: Yes, other than the becoming you know events that you
Speaker 4: got posted already, what other opponents would you like to
Speaker 4: go against? When you say guys that are better than you?
Speaker 4: When you when you say that, what is better than
Speaker 4: you mean, like I mean, okay, it's better than me.
Speaker 4: I mean just people people that are already known like
Speaker 4: Marcus Mathers.
Speaker 3: Starboards, Charlie, Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, okay, Starboards Charlie.
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's from Philly too, good friend of mine, Mustache.
Speaker 6: I can go, Anthony Green, Alec Price, you know those
Speaker 6: those names. I would love to just go against people
Speaker 6: that are better than me, that people that are already
Speaker 6: known it and have a like stamp on wrestling right now,
Speaker 6: and I would love to like share the ring with
Speaker 6: them just to prove my prove to myself that I
Speaker 6: can hang with these guys.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I feel like I feel like you're at a
Speaker 1: ripe age and you know, you can show everybody what
Speaker 1: you're made of. You're really good, You're you're really good
Speaker 1: at what you do, and you seem to care about
Speaker 1: what you do. And you know you're getting booked, you
Speaker 1: getting more eyes on you, and it just again, it's
Speaker 1: it's a funny way how God works. Because we were
Speaker 1: at the Cannonball Show, we met chopped it up, You're
Speaker 1: gonna be at the Shade Bougie Show, and you know,
Speaker 1: now we're on the podcast and we're making magic and
Speaker 1: that's just how it works.
Speaker 5: It's crazy, man. It's like you said, it's a small world.
Speaker 1: That is six six degrees of separation is a true thing,
Speaker 1: is a true thing. Now talk to us about this
Speaker 1: this I really mean it. Riachfield Park the mecca up coming.
Speaker 1: You're facing Jody Ara l p W champion. That's no,
Speaker 1: that's that's that's walking the park. It's not a walking
Speaker 1: to park. That's gonna be a tough asking, a lot
Speaker 1: of eyes on you.
Speaker 5: It's not how is.
Speaker 1: Cast feeling right now? Because that's the Sunday brother.
Speaker 6: I'm I'm excited. I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm
Speaker 6: very excited. I know it's gonna be a hard match.
Speaker 6: And like I said, it's people that are that I
Speaker 6: need to go against, that that are better than me
Speaker 6: or even at my level, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: But Jody's a good friend of mine.
Speaker 6: But obviously when you know it comes, I really mean it,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna take me over him exactly exactly. But I
Speaker 6: mean I made my statement. They're already at ETU. I
Speaker 6: went against the Branden Tunes. I had a really good
Speaker 6: match against him, and they wanted me to come back.
Speaker 6: They gave me please come back chance, and I'm back now.
Speaker 6: So I think I have more of a yeah, right,
Speaker 6: and I think I have more of a leverage right
Speaker 6: now in that company against them.
Speaker 5: But I think it's gonna be a good match, and
Speaker 5: I can't wait.
Speaker 1: No, Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be a dope card.
Speaker 1: It's a dope card. And you know I've watched Jody
Speaker 1: or wrestle a couple of times. He's he's a truth.
Speaker 1: If he if he does the spot that I think
Speaker 1: he's gonna do when he when he walks the barricade.
Speaker 3: We'll see.
Speaker 5: We'll see antiated match to anticipate it.
Speaker 1: Mate, what's so, what's your I'm meant to ask you
Speaker 1: your finisher and your signature.
Speaker 6: So my signature, crazy enough is a bounce, bounce phoenix splash.
Speaker 5: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I bounced from the second to the third and
Speaker 6: then I hit a phoenix slash.
Speaker 2: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I could come up with that was that's not not
Speaker 1: anybody can do that.
Speaker 5: I'm gonna be honest with you.
Speaker 6: A lot of the moves that I have that are
Speaker 6: crazy is because of my dad. He comes hit, He
Speaker 6: hits me up all the time. Talking about new moves
Speaker 6: to yeah, shout out, pops. He tells me new moves
Speaker 6: to try to do because he always has he always
Speaker 6: believes me, no matter if it's hard or not, he
Speaker 6: always has that belief that I can do it. So
Speaker 6: even if I don't believe, he believes in and he's like,
Speaker 6: you're gonna do it. You're gonna try to do it.
Speaker 6: So we just we kept trying to do it, and
Speaker 6: one day it just clicked with me because I knew
Speaker 6: how to do flips at the time, so it kind
Speaker 6: of it kind of led to that, and that's how
Speaker 6: I kind of got to the move.
Speaker 1: And that's what happens. That's how what happens when you
Speaker 1: have a trampoline in your backyard.
Speaker 5: That too, that too.
Speaker 6: I was never athletic as a kid, but I was
Speaker 6: able to do flips all the time.
Speaker 5: One yeah, and wh.
Speaker 1: Who like who would you say you modeled like your
Speaker 1: move set after? Because again, like we said, everything matters,
Speaker 1: lip sets matter.
Speaker 6: Ah, that's hard, that's hard. I I like to have
Speaker 6: a I'm a hard yeah, It's like I'm a hard
Speaker 6: hitting athletic style high.
Speaker 1: Flyer style, like a like a ricochet, Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, like a ricochet but he more more a little
Speaker 5: bit rounded, because I don't think I'm as athletic as him.
Speaker 5: I got you, But that I mean that that that
Speaker 5: is a good example.
Speaker 1: I respect it. That's what I mean. That's that's the
Speaker 1: beautiful thing about wrestling. You don't have to be one thing.
Speaker 5: My wrestling influences my my two favorite.
Speaker 6: Good five right now, I think Randy Orton, Roman Reigns,
Speaker 6: Bray Wyatt, Seph Rollins and hm hmmm, we're talking about
Speaker 6: new age, right, whatever you want and whatever? Okay, I
Speaker 6: mean I didn't know if we could say old names,
Speaker 6: because then that I would have picked old names too.
Speaker 1: Whatever you want to do, cash is your episode, baby.
Speaker 6: You're right, you're right here, right, you're right. Oh my gosh, man,
Speaker 6: I think I think it would be a stone cold
Speaker 6: stone colds.
Speaker 1: I mean, go toen, like, do you do it? Do
Speaker 1: you do it? Lutha's press by any chance? Or is
Speaker 1: that is that in your mooset?
Speaker 5: I don't think so.
Speaker 1: Now, when you build your when you build your move set, right, yes,
Speaker 1: I'm I'm trying to figure out how to word this
Speaker 1: because like I don't wrestle, but like I'm, you know,
Speaker 1: putting the move together on the wrestling game. What do
Speaker 1: you like, Like, what are your heavy moves and what
Speaker 1: are your light moves? Like are we are we going
Speaker 1: high flying?
Speaker 4: Like?
Speaker 1: Are we doing a lot of high flying? Are we
Speaker 1: doing her conanas all those lines?
Speaker 3: Yes?
Speaker 5: So like my my high flying moves would be like
Speaker 5: uh doing a topay out the ring, obviously doing the bounce, bounce,
Speaker 5: phoenix splash. H I do a backflip super kick.
Speaker 6: So I kind of do things like that, but like
Speaker 6: grounded things I do is like I do a DVD
Speaker 6: in the corner.
Speaker 5: I do a blue thunderbomb. I do a Fisherman a
Speaker 5: Fisherman bomb. I do.
Speaker 1: I've seen that. I think I've seen that. Yeah, you
Speaker 1: ended up match with that. I forgot what MATCHA was.
Speaker 5: Yep. I do a package pile driver. But also I
Speaker 5: do stuff like.
Speaker 6: I do like the stunt dog to where they have
Speaker 6: me in a in a soup lex and then I
Speaker 6: reverse it out of it. Yes, so I do I
Speaker 6: do moves like that to like to make myself different
Speaker 6: from anybody else.
Speaker 1: I'm gonna hold you the You have a picture on
Speaker 1: your Instagram when you're doing the topay outside, and that
Speaker 1: picture is so tough find out I was.
Speaker 5: I was so happy somebody caught it. It's so cool, bro.
Speaker 1: And that's I say this on every episode bro. Content creators,
Speaker 1: camera men, videographers, Bro, they go hand and hang with
Speaker 1: wrestlers because if there was never a photographer there, it
Speaker 1: never happened.
Speaker 5: Yep.
Speaker 1: It you feel me. It makes you look fantastic. It's
Speaker 1: like your resume.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: Like when I seen that, I was like, get the
Speaker 1: fuck out of here, like.
Speaker 6: Mm hmm, yep. I'm gonna be honest with you. I
Speaker 6: I just think it's it's like the fans. I I
Speaker 6: kind of love just like the inner action of just
Speaker 6: them coming up to you and be like you did
Speaker 6: a good job, or just like hey, like your inspiration
Speaker 6: at this point? This is yeah, just something small because
Speaker 6: it's like it just shows like your work can like
Speaker 6: like go out to other people, you know what I mean,
Speaker 6: and you changed, you changed their perspective on something. Like
Speaker 6: I had people that never went to a show and
Speaker 6: they were like, I like wrestling now because you you
Speaker 6: I saw you, you know what I mean, and that
Speaker 6: stuff Just like I love the positivity of that stuff,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean. So I that's really what
Speaker 6: I like. But I also like the friends that you
Speaker 6: meet on the way of wrestling. I travel so much,
Speaker 6: I meet new people and they're so nice to me,
Speaker 6: and I'm just I'm so grateful to just be in
Speaker 6: their presence and able to talk to them and actually
Speaker 6: call them friends. So I love the aspect of wrestling
Speaker 6: as much as possible.
Speaker 1: This guy is I love this guy. We got to
Speaker 1: get this guy on. We got to get this guy.
Speaker 1: So cass, listen here. I don't know if you know
Speaker 1: this or not, but I'm trying to build. Listen, I'm
Speaker 1: trying to build like a little conglomerate of wrestlers. Like
Speaker 1: I'm trying to so like essentially, what we want to
Speaker 1: do is we want to throw a show, yes, but
Speaker 1: we want to throw it here in our hometown of Yonkers.
Speaker 5: Okay.
Speaker 1: And you know again, I've watched rest of my whole life.
Speaker 1: As you see, our whole thing is built off of
Speaker 1: the nWo. Like I've always loved the n WO, what
Speaker 1: it stands for, what it is, and like I've always
Speaker 1: wanted to build like a conglomerate of wrestlers, like kind
Speaker 1: of be like Eric Bischoff of sorts, and like everybody
Speaker 1: just represents New World podcast The Southsiders and You're you
Speaker 1: would definitely be you are the the I would be
Speaker 1: like my you're like my old nine Randy Orton in
Speaker 1: the salmon in the salmon trunks like peak. This guy is.
Speaker 1: This guy is good.
Speaker 5: Bro.
Speaker 1: Again, if if you whoever's listening to this podcast, if
Speaker 1: you haven't watched a devious cast match, this is another
Speaker 1: thing I like about this guy. You go to his YouTube.
Speaker 1: This guy has like thirty matches all of him. His Yes,
Speaker 1: full full length matches. Wrestlers need to have your YouTube,
Speaker 1: your Instagram pop and put the clips up there. Reach
Speaker 1: out to the people, the production team after the matches,
Speaker 1: see if they could give you the clips. Your matches
Speaker 1: don't be thirty minutes long. We not have an Iron
Speaker 1: Man matches. They'd be eight minute clips. Get that, chop
Speaker 1: that up, send it to an editor to chop it up.
Speaker 1: You feel me make something nice. But this guy, this
Speaker 1: guy cast you could tell he loves it, he cares
Speaker 1: about it. And again I'm glad, I'm glad you're here
Speaker 1: with us because this is dope. I didn't know you
Speaker 1: were from Philly when I first met you could have
Speaker 1: sworn you from New York like you give me New
Speaker 1: York vibe. No, Philly's cool, Philly. Are you an Eagles
Speaker 1: fan by any chance?
Speaker 5: So my dad is not an Eagles fan, So I
Speaker 5: grew up as a Niners fan.
Speaker 1: I know he was about to say some bullshits like it,
Speaker 1: let's idle lady ship h it's all Lenny's a Mets fan, so.
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, yes he did.
Speaker 1: First rank it is there, Lenny, what are you gonna say?
Speaker 1: What are you gonna say? Len? I cut you off
Speaker 1: my fault.
Speaker 2: H m hmm.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: I this is gonna sound hokey because everybody says it,
Speaker 6: but like I feel as though this.
Speaker 5: Is like.
Speaker 6: I'm it's the truth. I just you just gotta keep
Speaker 6: you gotta keep going. You can't stop like you wherever
Speaker 6: you're at, wherever you at, if you're bad, if it's bad,
Speaker 6: if you're having hard times right now, you just gotta
Speaker 6: keep going, like no matter what it is. I mean,
Speaker 6: you can see from here, I'm making classes, I'm making
Speaker 6: wrestling matches, I'm doing my homework, I'm getting a's Like,
Speaker 6: you just have to keep going because people are gonna
Speaker 6: start to see it. Like I never knew that I
Speaker 6: would get on this podcast with y'all and now I'm here,
Speaker 6: you know, And that's just because my work is showing
Speaker 6: from just doing it every day constantly getting better. So
Speaker 6: if I have any advice, it was just to constantly
Speaker 6: keep getting better and keep doing the same things that
Speaker 6: you're doing because it's gonna work out eventually in the future.
Speaker 2: That's great.
Speaker 1: Yeh, yeh.
Speaker 5: Never know, they never know, never know.
Speaker 1: Is there is there any big promotions that you would
Speaker 1: love to sign with to be a part of. You
Speaker 1: give me TNA vibes. You look like a TNA gouy
Speaker 1: of me.
Speaker 6: I actually want to get in the wa It's been
Speaker 6: my whole life, Like that's all I've been watching as
Speaker 6: a kid, like it's my it's my goal, Like that
Speaker 6: is my end goal.
Speaker 5: I want to be in w in WrestleMania, like that
Speaker 5: is my end goal.
Speaker 6: And I know that's everybody's end goal, but as a kid,
Speaker 6: it's just like, yeah, yeah, I want to get there.
Speaker 1: WrestleMania. Entrance goes crazy, I'm going to hold you.
Speaker 5: That would be fire, the fire for.
Speaker 1: The Extavision Championship. I'm just saying, right, I'm not the booker. Yeah,
Speaker 1: is there any I would say, give me like five wrestlers.
Speaker 1: They could be in the Federation, they could be in
Speaker 1: the indie, a w New Japan essentially that you would
Speaker 1: love to wrestle if you have the chance to.
Speaker 5: Don't do that.
Speaker 6: Don't do that, so I would do uh my five
Speaker 6: would be Kenny Omega, Well Osprey, Steph Rollins.
Speaker 5: I'm trying to think, Yeah, I'm trying.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to think because these those are like my
Speaker 6: three right now I would love to go against I'm
Speaker 6: trying to think, Man, this is crazy.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: I'm not really I'm I I'm a fan of Sammy's ain,
Speaker 5: but I think that would be a good match.
Speaker 6: AJ styles mm hmm aj Styles. And my last one
Speaker 6: will be it will be Randy. I would love to
Speaker 6: go against Randy.
Speaker 1: I just wrote these all down. That's why you've got
Speaker 1: the I got the pen out.
Speaker 6: But that's ah, we're gonna come to solid in like
Speaker 6: a couple of years and we're gonna be you check
Speaker 6: this one off.
Speaker 1: That's what that's what that's what we do it for.
Speaker 1: That's exactly what we do it for. You have any
Speaker 1: upcoming shows besides for the ETU. I really mean it.
Speaker 1: One this Sunday.
Speaker 6: I do not have any upcoming shows this weekend, but
Speaker 6: I'm hoping. I'm hoping that I will get on Restling
Speaker 6: Open and if I do, that will be announced soon.
Speaker 1: Gotcha. Gotcha, make sure you guys tune into uh Cast's Instagram. Well,
Speaker 1: we'll drop that at the end of the episode. But
Speaker 1: Cassie was a pleasure talking to you, brother.
Speaker 2: This is.
Speaker 1: I feel like like we checked all the boxes. But
Speaker 1: the thing, the thing I love about doing this.
Speaker 5: I know I can't wait to see y'all.
Speaker 1: So the thing the thing I love about doing this
Speaker 1: in person is I feel like we we know the wrestler.
Speaker 1: We want to know who you really are, like if
Speaker 1: you know. I feel like at the end of this,
Speaker 1: we feel like cousins. After this conversation, I feel like
Speaker 1: it's family. Like I feel like now whenever I see
Speaker 1: you in person is going to always be loved. Whenever
Speaker 1: you know, whenever you know, whenever you put anything out,
Speaker 1: I'm showing you love because I respect the work, and
Speaker 1: you know I respect workers, and you're you're a phenomenal worker.
Speaker 1: You're a young kid, you're almost half my age, which
Speaker 1: is crazy, but it's it's dope.
Speaker 6: Bro.
Speaker 1: Just like like, like you said, Bro, just keep going, Bro, Yeah,
Speaker 1: just just keep on putting in the work. You're not
Speaker 1: even twenty one yet. You can't even legally drink. I
Speaker 1: mean good, don't drink. Don't drink, right right right?
Speaker 5: They just allowed I'm a worker.
Speaker 1: Yeah nah, but yeah, just keep doing the work.
Speaker 2: Bro.
Speaker 1: You have good you have big aspirations and you know again,
Speaker 1: just don't stop, bro. Like same thing for me, Bro,
Speaker 1: I can't stop. You just gotta keep going, got to
Speaker 1: keep going, got to keep grinding, get your name out there.
Speaker 5: Yes, thank you, thank you, Thank you people.
Speaker 1: People. I'm sure, I'm sure people will look up to you.
Speaker 1: There's there's if they don't, should start one day.
Speaker 5: I can have that. Right now, I'm just trying to
Speaker 5: stay in my lane.
Speaker 1: Respect it, I respect it. Shit, Well, I look up
Speaker 1: to you because you doing what I wanted to do
Speaker 1: when I was younger. You're really doing it. This guy
Speaker 1: was training at twelve, like I was fucking crying over
Speaker 1: Pokemon cards at twelve.
Speaker 5: Bro. That is dope.
Speaker 1: That shit is so dope, that shit is so cool.
Speaker 1: So cast we're gonna, we're gonna, we're gonna send us off. Okay,
Speaker 1: you know what I need from you. I need you
Speaker 1: to send us home with a with a nice PROMOCHUK
Speaker 1: your ship, drop your socials, ETU. I really mean it.
Speaker 1: Tell Jody or how you really feel, do what you
Speaker 1: gotta do. The platform is yours, go ahead, the mic
Speaker 1: is yours. Okay.
Speaker 6: First of all, follow me on debus cast, I g
Speaker 6: uh Twitter and America's author on Facebook.
Speaker 5: I will be on the next ETU show.
Speaker 6: I really mean it, going against Jody Aurora, right, yes,
Speaker 6: and I am I am excited, I am ready, I
Speaker 6: am pumped up, and I'm just happy to give everybody
Speaker 6: a good show and a good match to watch.
Speaker 5: But I will let y'all know that I will be winning.
Speaker 6: Because without any else, anything else being said, I am
Speaker 6: the young prodigy. I am the future of this business.
Speaker 6: And as written by America's author, it's prophecy.
Speaker 1: Yeah, let's go. I respect it. I respect it. Yes,
Speaker 1: This Sunday, Sunday, go to church. We at church. We
Speaker 1: had church at the Mecca. Go to church and then
Speaker 1: go to the Mecca four pm. J Bougie Killionaire's Club ETU.
Speaker 1: New Jersey's always a vibe, you know. The Mecca's always
Speaker 1: a vibe, it's nice and early, so you could go
Speaker 1: home and then watch football. But after that we're gonna
Speaker 1: link up Devious cast, Philly's own Yonkers Zone, south Side,
Speaker 1: Gay Leno Cash, New World Podcasts in the building. Shout
Speaker 1: out to Dave Kenny, Dennis the Good Brothers. Cash. We
Speaker 1: appreciate you, brother, Thank you for your time.
Speaker 5: I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: She'm so dope. I hope I hope people google you
Speaker 1: on YouTube. You because you're dead ass. The one. We
Speaker 1: need more young talent, we need more humble talent. This
Speaker 1: guy has straight a's and he is a worker, lazy
Speaker 1: and gentlemen. You know how hard it is to be
Speaker 1: a top five wrestler in any promotion at the age
Speaker 1: of eighteen, start at the age of twelve, and still
Speaker 1: be nice and still have a four point zero. Some
Speaker 1: of you, I don't even got a four point oh
Speaker 1: some people don't even point zero. Is they think that's
Speaker 1: the type of Mercedes Benz Hill Baby listen, it's your boys.
Speaker 1: We did it. Another great episode forty minutes in YouTube, Instagram,
Speaker 1: TikTok New World Podcast. Thank you much so much for
Speaker 1: the love. We appreciate y'all again. ETU, I really mean it.
Speaker 1: Jay Bougie's in the next episode is lit. You already
Speaker 1: know the vibes we over