WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.120 --> 00:00:03.000 Now one of your pudding. I got a string going 2 00:00:03.040 --> 00:00:06.120 on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog, 3 00:00:06.919 --> 00:00:08.960 my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree. 4 00:00:09.039 --> 00:00:13.640 I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm 5 00:00:13.640 --> 00:00:16.120 really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over 6 00:00:16.199 --> 00:00:17.800 the fence and he was dead. And once you hit 7 00:00:17.839 --> 00:00:19.679 the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I 8 00:00:19.679 --> 00:00:38.119 saw was my dog coming over the fence. Happen? What 9 00:00:38.359 --> 00:00:42.960 are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling 10 00:00:43.000 --> 00:00:51.920 around out here? Did you see what it was? 11 00:00:51.719 --> 00:00:52.240 Or was it was? 12 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.719 Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now 13 00:00:54.719 --> 00:00:57.479 and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside. 14 00:00:58.240 --> 00:01:04.799 Jesus quice, you better hello, get somebody out here. 15 00:01:05.120 --> 00:01:06.040 What went on out there? 16 00:01:06.079 --> 00:01:08.599 I thought of a bit of about sixty nine. I 17 00:01:08.640 --> 00:01:11.480 don't know him out there. Yeah, I'm right away. 18 00:01:11.760 --> 00:01:14.040 Oh hey, greeting is this friend in Alaska? Thanks for 19 00:01:14.120 --> 00:01:16.680 joining me today. Today we are going to do an interview. 20 00:01:17.599 --> 00:01:18.719 Go ahead and introduce yourself. 21 00:01:19.040 --> 00:01:22.519 My name is Sonny Grant was born and raised in Juno, Alaska, 22 00:01:22.799 --> 00:01:25.680 a full plane kit. I was born in a wolf clan. 23 00:01:26.879 --> 00:01:30.159 I was trained by my father to dear on to 24 00:01:30.200 --> 00:01:33.640 see you on my uncles and my grandfather for fishing, 25 00:01:33.920 --> 00:01:38.480 mosse Kilnetti power trolling. I've been outside since I was 26 00:01:38.640 --> 00:01:42.159 very young. Some of the earliest photographs of I was 27 00:01:42.200 --> 00:01:45.079 on a fishing boat or a little boat somewhere, or 28 00:01:45.120 --> 00:01:48.000 I was hunting with my dad when I was like six. 29 00:01:48.519 --> 00:01:53.120 I was very familiar with what's in the woods growing up. 30 00:01:53.200 --> 00:01:57.159 I have a well known grandfather's names Austin Hammond, and 31 00:01:57.280 --> 00:02:02.120 he would tell stories. We learned a lot. There was 32 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:04.480 a few times I talked with when we talked about 33 00:02:04.480 --> 00:02:07.120 the cannibal giant and I was very young and I 34 00:02:07.200 --> 00:02:10.120 was asking what it was and it says, it's a 35 00:02:10.159 --> 00:02:12.800 wild man in the woods. I didn't know what to 36 00:02:12.879 --> 00:02:16.039 think about that. As I was getting older, I think 37 00:02:16.520 --> 00:02:20.080 must have happened in nineteen sixty six. The first sighting 38 00:02:20.159 --> 00:02:23.639 I had, I was with two friends I loved going 39 00:02:23.680 --> 00:02:28.319 out in woods with They were clinking as well. They 40 00:02:28.400 --> 00:02:31.560 always had a twenty two and a pelat gun. So 41 00:02:31.639 --> 00:02:34.560 I went with them and man, we hiked all over Gino. 42 00:02:34.639 --> 00:02:37.919 It was amazing because I loved hiking and I found 43 00:02:37.960 --> 00:02:42.000 the right people to be with. Many times we've been 44 00:02:42.120 --> 00:02:45.159 up and our favorite destination was the top of Amun Gino. 45 00:02:46.280 --> 00:02:49.319 If you ever seen a photograph of downtown Gino, you'll 46 00:02:49.319 --> 00:02:52.879 see a big mountain that rises up to thirty eight 47 00:02:53.000 --> 00:02:58.360 hundred feet, So it's a really difficult hike to go up, 48 00:02:59.280 --> 00:03:02.280 but we would run all the way up. It m'd 49 00:03:02.319 --> 00:03:06.080 have been like late July, I think when we went up, 50 00:03:06.879 --> 00:03:09.080 because when we were to go up, we would always 51 00:03:09.800 --> 00:03:13.520 shoot grouse our term again, which is a state bird. 52 00:03:14.319 --> 00:03:17.159 So I really do do we eat anything we can 53 00:03:17.159 --> 00:03:19.840 get our scope on. We would do it, and we 54 00:03:19.919 --> 00:03:22.960 never shot things that we wouldn't eat. To me, that 55 00:03:23.120 --> 00:03:26.280 was wasteful. I figure, if you're going to put something down, 56 00:03:26.360 --> 00:03:29.280 you better use it. Many times we went up, we 57 00:03:29.319 --> 00:03:32.360 all took turns shooting. That's where I learned how to 58 00:03:33.319 --> 00:03:38.039 tether and clean our grouse and cook it. I just 59 00:03:38.159 --> 00:03:41.800 learned by watching and then later learn by doing. But 60 00:03:41.960 --> 00:03:44.280 this one time in July we went up, it was 61 00:03:44.360 --> 00:03:47.280 kind of odd. We were getting near the top the mountain, 62 00:03:48.039 --> 00:03:51.319 which is the hardest part of the high just like 63 00:03:51.520 --> 00:03:54.879 endless switch back that's just going up, and we just 64 00:03:54.960 --> 00:04:00.319 realized how quiet it was. Really quiet. Usually you'd hear 65 00:04:00.560 --> 00:04:07.280 Tarmigan's mormots we'd hear other birds and and even insects. 66 00:04:07.599 --> 00:04:10.400 We'd hear any of that. We finally made it to 67 00:04:10.479 --> 00:04:13.560 the top and it was really warm out. We sat 68 00:04:13.639 --> 00:04:17.079 down and we were talking that we didn't see anything. 69 00:04:17.759 --> 00:04:20.199 We were talking about how quiet it was, and we 70 00:04:20.279 --> 00:04:24.360 had some prode with us. We sat down, we started eating. 71 00:04:25.439 --> 00:04:28.879 One of my friends saw something in a distance going 72 00:04:28.959 --> 00:04:34.040 up as snow slope was a Calli slope. There's patches 73 00:04:34.079 --> 00:04:37.079 of snow here and there. We looked at as though 74 00:04:37.079 --> 00:04:39.519 it must be a black bear. He had a little 75 00:04:39.560 --> 00:04:42.079 four power scope on us, a twenty two, and we 76 00:04:42.160 --> 00:04:44.560 looked through it and we realized that thing was on 77 00:04:44.720 --> 00:04:49.319 two feet walking up the hill and walking up really fast. 78 00:04:50.040 --> 00:04:53.600 The reason why that stood out to us is we 79 00:04:53.839 --> 00:04:57.560 did that tight from Salmon Creek Dam going up to 80 00:04:58.360 --> 00:05:01.800 kind of like the northwestern a sent up mounta Gino. 81 00:05:02.480 --> 00:05:04.839 Not too many people do that because there's no trail. 82 00:05:05.639 --> 00:05:08.720 We just went right off the Chamma Creek dam and 83 00:05:08.839 --> 00:05:12.040 just started headed up the mountain bushwalk a way up. 84 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:14.639 So we thought that was quite odd that this thing 85 00:05:14.920 --> 00:05:20.279 was moving really fast, which we all knew how difficult 86 00:05:20.319 --> 00:05:23.279 it was. Whenever you want it, you take three steps 87 00:05:23.319 --> 00:05:28.040 and you go back two steps, so it's really difficult hiking. 88 00:05:28.800 --> 00:05:30.839 We must have watched it for four or five minutes, 89 00:05:31.079 --> 00:05:33.560 and so it took for it to go up that 90 00:05:33.720 --> 00:05:37.639 slope that got up to the tree line. And in 91 00:05:37.800 --> 00:05:41.079 Januar area, the tree line is around two thousand feet. 92 00:05:41.680 --> 00:05:44.480 Some mountains are twenty one hundred feet. But it's all 93 00:05:44.600 --> 00:05:48.000 very similar. To think about the tree line is the 94 00:05:48.160 --> 00:05:52.040 trees at the treelane, they're all about six foot tall 95 00:05:52.800 --> 00:05:56.959 than anything above that. There's nothing but shrubs and bushes. 96 00:05:57.480 --> 00:06:02.240 There's no trees. That thing each the top, we noticed 97 00:06:02.279 --> 00:06:06.720 it was really tall. It was much taller than the trees, 98 00:06:07.279 --> 00:06:09.959 and we said, man, we all start talking that we 99 00:06:10.040 --> 00:06:13.000 knew what it was. We didn't call it the hairy 100 00:06:13.040 --> 00:06:15.720 man back then, but call it the world. 101 00:06:15.800 --> 00:06:16.040 Man. 102 00:06:16.480 --> 00:06:20.079 There's a clicket term I just can't pronounce because I'm 103 00:06:20.079 --> 00:06:23.560 not a native speaker. That we saw it, we knew it. 104 00:06:23.560 --> 00:06:26.480 It was a sasquatch. Oh no, my friends start hiring 105 00:06:26.560 --> 00:06:29.839 the twenty two. Of course, at twenty two it only 106 00:06:29.839 --> 00:06:34.279 goes half mile three quarters of mile. The best just 107 00:06:34.279 --> 00:06:37.000 trying to make sounds to make it turn around and 108 00:06:37.040 --> 00:06:41.759 look at us. But it totally ignored us, and it 109 00:06:41.920 --> 00:06:44.879 just kept going and once it passed the tree line, 110 00:06:44.920 --> 00:06:46.959 it only took a few minutes when I reach the 111 00:06:47.000 --> 00:06:50.040 top of the ridge and we watched you walk over 112 00:06:50.079 --> 00:06:53.639 the ridge and then disappeared on the other side. That time. 113 00:06:54.720 --> 00:06:58.279 That's sighting I'll never forget because it made me very 114 00:06:58.399 --> 00:07:04.079 curious what these creatures was. I told my father my uncles, 115 00:07:04.759 --> 00:07:08.720 and he told me more stories sightings that they've heard 116 00:07:09.319 --> 00:07:12.959 and some of them have seen. That just started something 117 00:07:13.000 --> 00:07:16.240 in me about being very curious of what this was. 118 00:07:16.839 --> 00:07:19.480 We have a lot of stories in my tribe about 119 00:07:20.040 --> 00:07:23.319 creatures in the woods, and the one we know the 120 00:07:23.360 --> 00:07:27.360 most is the cannibal giant. And the cannibal giant is 121 00:07:27.399 --> 00:07:32.639 I can fifteen, pretty tall. They catch you, they'll eat you. 122 00:07:33.639 --> 00:07:36.759 In fact, there's a well known totem vo in southeast. 123 00:07:36.879 --> 00:07:41.360 It's a cannibal giant hesehold and the man. The man 124 00:07:41.439 --> 00:07:43.959 on the totem. The guy is dead and he's upside 125 00:07:44.000 --> 00:07:48.079 down and this creature's holding them. We always knew about them. 126 00:07:48.240 --> 00:07:51.160 We're told never to go in the woods, especially the women. 127 00:07:51.519 --> 00:07:54.279 My purpose of going there was I wanted a videocap 128 00:07:54.360 --> 00:07:58.279 to glacier. When you go there. It rumbles like every 129 00:07:58.360 --> 00:08:02.800 ten minutes. And when I rumbles, there was ice moving. 130 00:08:03.199 --> 00:08:06.399 I wanted to capture that on video. I must have 131 00:08:06.480 --> 00:08:08.560 been there an hour and a half and I finally 132 00:08:08.560 --> 00:08:11.519 got it on the video. I got the rumble of 133 00:08:11.560 --> 00:08:15.040 the gray shirt and I saw the ice moving. I 134 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:19.000 felt hot. I finally got what I wanted. That's when 135 00:08:19.000 --> 00:08:21.879 I realized how late it was. It was between four 136 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:24.519 and four thirty and the sun was getting ready to 137 00:08:24.519 --> 00:08:27.399 just set way out in the distance of the sun 138 00:08:27.600 --> 00:08:31.759 was just getting ready to disappeared behind these islands out 139 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:34.200 in lincolnal. I said, Man, I'm going to be in 140 00:08:34.360 --> 00:08:39.639 darkness in no time. So I gathered everything I had collapsed, 141 00:08:39.720 --> 00:08:44.799 my tripop in my pack, and I started heading back 142 00:08:44.840 --> 00:08:48.799 as fast as I could. I probably piked a mile 143 00:08:48.960 --> 00:08:52.320 down when I got caught in the darkness. It just 144 00:08:52.360 --> 00:08:56.240 got so dark because I was in the woods and 145 00:08:56.320 --> 00:08:58.480 I was so dark, I couldn't even see my feet. 146 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:01.080 I was wearing tennis shoes and they were white. I 147 00:09:01.080 --> 00:09:04.279 couldn't even see my feet. So it was very slow going. 148 00:09:04.720 --> 00:09:07.720 I knew that trail so well. I also stood still 149 00:09:07.799 --> 00:09:11.720 for ten minutes to let my eyes suggest or I 150 00:09:11.759 --> 00:09:17.639 could see something that wasn't much light continue down. As 151 00:09:17.679 --> 00:09:21.320 I was going down, I heard something walking. I was 152 00:09:21.360 --> 00:09:24.519 at a part of the trail where as I'm hiding 153 00:09:24.600 --> 00:09:26.639 down that trail, on the left of me, there's this 154 00:09:26.840 --> 00:09:29.960 little granite dome. It's not that igh, it's only like 155 00:09:30.799 --> 00:09:34.240 thirty forty feet taller than me. When you go on 156 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:37.519 top of that dome. On the other side, it's a 157 00:09:37.600 --> 00:09:41.320 mininol glacier. It just drops right down to the glacier. 158 00:09:42.039 --> 00:09:45.440 And on my right there's this little valley that slowly rises, 159 00:09:46.159 --> 00:09:49.919 and it's a really steep little valley to slope through, 160 00:09:50.039 --> 00:09:54.440 like forty some degrees. Whatever is this thing of walking 161 00:09:54.480 --> 00:09:58.679 down at the bottom going up the mountain. I was 162 00:09:58.759 --> 00:10:02.519 listening to it and the sound of loud I couldn't 163 00:10:02.559 --> 00:10:07.960 recognize what it was because it sounded more than three 164 00:10:08.039 --> 00:10:12.080 or four footsteps. Usually if it's an animal, you would 165 00:10:12.120 --> 00:10:15.159 recognize it, like a moose or deer. That deer and 166 00:10:15.200 --> 00:10:17.559 you would only hear it if they're racing. But usually 167 00:10:17.720 --> 00:10:21.320 deer a very silent as they run through the woods. 168 00:10:21.919 --> 00:10:25.080 But you could hear moose, and of course bears you 169 00:10:25.200 --> 00:10:28.080 just heard them because they just crashed through everything. I 170 00:10:28.080 --> 00:10:32.080 couldn't recognize this. I knew the bears were ebernating, who 171 00:10:32.159 --> 00:10:35.279 had no clue. Was too big to be a woos. 172 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:39.200 They're party quiet. I remember thinking, whatever you go on 173 00:10:39.320 --> 00:10:42.679 or I'm going this way, which was down, and you're 174 00:10:42.720 --> 00:10:46.639 going the other way, which is up. Stopped moving, And 175 00:10:46.759 --> 00:10:49.399 when it stopped moving, I stopped because I was trying 176 00:10:49.399 --> 00:10:51.799 to figure out what it was doing this only it 177 00:10:51.840 --> 00:10:56.159 took one to two seconds of me stopping one owner 178 00:10:56.519 --> 00:11:00.919 was started launching it. This thing was running up the mountains, 179 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:03.519 running up the side of the handle towards me. It 180 00:11:03.559 --> 00:11:06.360 was crashing through a lot of brush. There's a lot 181 00:11:06.360 --> 00:11:12.000 of Sitka Spress, Western End Block, Devil's Club, and blueberry bushes. 182 00:11:13.000 --> 00:11:16.759 The reason why I know there's blueberries because many times 183 00:11:16.759 --> 00:11:21.720 I've hiked down that little valley and infect blueberries. It's 184 00:11:21.759 --> 00:11:24.360 really tough going through that brush, and this thing was 185 00:11:24.480 --> 00:11:28.279 ripping through like a train. The fear just rose up 186 00:11:28.440 --> 00:11:31.480 to me so great I even tasted it in my mouth. 187 00:11:31.759 --> 00:11:36.639 I've never been afraid. I've come across many animals since 188 00:11:36.639 --> 00:11:41.799 I was hunting brown beerries. Moose was surrounded by packslaars 189 00:11:41.919 --> 00:11:45.159 and you're supposed to talk to them at least that's 190 00:11:45.159 --> 00:11:49.240 what they teach us in my tribe. But this fear 191 00:11:49.399 --> 00:11:52.000 was so great I just couldn't believe it. He had 192 00:11:52.120 --> 00:11:56.000 realized it running up towards me. It only took two 193 00:11:56.080 --> 00:11:59.840 three seconds to reach me. I remember having a literal 194 00:12:00.039 --> 00:12:03.080 lamp on my Sony camcorder. Once you flip up, it 195 00:12:03.120 --> 00:12:07.159 turns on, and I flicked it up. It wasn't a 196 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:10.600 bright light, but it's mostly even made to light subjects 197 00:12:10.799 --> 00:12:13.519 five six feet away at the most. Whatever this thing 198 00:12:13.600 --> 00:12:16.759 was like thirty feet or so. It was pitch black. 199 00:12:17.320 --> 00:12:22.240 I saw it behind a western hemlock. That western hemlock 200 00:12:22.399 --> 00:12:25.639 tree must have been like ten inches twelve inches in diameter. 201 00:12:26.720 --> 00:12:29.600 It was still collar me, but yet it was down 202 00:12:29.679 --> 00:12:33.919 the mountain, down the hill, so I was looking at 203 00:12:33.960 --> 00:12:36.919 its size. I couldn't see any detail. I saw. It 204 00:12:37.080 --> 00:12:40.519 was a blackness, a silhouette. I could see his head 205 00:12:40.600 --> 00:12:44.000 and knows bob and behind the tree as it was 206 00:12:44.039 --> 00:12:48.440 looking at me, And I saw his shoulders which was 207 00:12:48.480 --> 00:12:50.840 like five feet in within it, I saw the length 208 00:12:50.879 --> 00:12:53.480 of his torso, and I saw his legs which looked 209 00:12:53.519 --> 00:12:56.480 like tree trunks. It takes me a long time to 210 00:12:56.559 --> 00:12:59.279 describe what I saw but this all happened. But then 211 00:12:59.519 --> 00:13:03.879 just a seconds and I yelled and whistled in the 212 00:13:04.120 --> 00:13:08.240 end up running against my better judgment because you're not 213 00:13:08.279 --> 00:13:12.600 supposed to run from animals, but the fear on me 214 00:13:12.799 --> 00:13:16.960 was so great it just like all common sense went out. 215 00:13:17.120 --> 00:13:21.240 And I was moving, and I heard these things moving 216 00:13:21.879 --> 00:13:25.080 up to where I was as I was running, and 217 00:13:25.200 --> 00:13:28.279 you got to realize I was running and pitch blackness. 218 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:31.080 I knew I saw that one, but I was wondering 219 00:13:31.120 --> 00:13:34.919 where the other one was. Because when those twas split 220 00:13:35.080 --> 00:13:38.000 up when they were running up the hill, I found 221 00:13:38.120 --> 00:13:42.320 like two guys running, two big guys. That's when I 222 00:13:42.480 --> 00:13:45.279 just left and I ran as fast as I could. 223 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:49.320 I ran into a tree and almost knocked myself out. 224 00:13:49.679 --> 00:13:53.120 I felt the blood going down my fork kit. I 225 00:13:53.279 --> 00:13:56.320 just kept going. Member was a random mile. There's this 226 00:13:56.440 --> 00:14:00.840 little switchbacks which has you said, all chains for a rail. 227 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:03.320 So I knew exactly where I was and I just 228 00:14:03.360 --> 00:14:07.120 followed that going down that Kevin going until I got 229 00:14:07.159 --> 00:14:09.759 to the level ground. By the time I got to 230 00:14:09.799 --> 00:14:13.080 the level ground, I stopped. I listened. I didn't hear 231 00:14:13.120 --> 00:14:16.639 anything behind me. I was relieved about that, but I 232 00:14:16.679 --> 00:14:20.159 was shaking so hard because when I first started running, 233 00:14:20.240 --> 00:14:22.639 I heard it behind me. I heard some noise. I 234 00:14:22.720 --> 00:14:27.919 just said, no, weird exactly. So I just started walking 235 00:14:27.960 --> 00:14:30.440 back to my truck, which was at the parking lot. 236 00:14:30.840 --> 00:14:34.559 Those of you who bend to Jannal It's nearest Skeeter's 237 00:14:34.639 --> 00:14:38.240 campin on Mend in all Lake As where the starts 238 00:14:38.240 --> 00:14:41.039 in the West Glasier Trail was. I made it back 239 00:14:42.279 --> 00:14:45.840 back then I was a smoker. I wasn't a heavy smoker, 240 00:14:45.879 --> 00:14:48.799 but I like cigarettes. I got in my truck, slammed 241 00:14:48.799 --> 00:14:52.919 the door shut, blocked it. The chain smoked like six 242 00:14:53.000 --> 00:14:56.240 cigarettes in a rail just because I was shaking so much. 243 00:14:57.919 --> 00:15:01.279 And stay tuned for more Sasquat Chatasy right back after 244 00:15:01.320 --> 00:15:02.679 these messages. 245 00:15:06.080 --> 00:15:10.240 For shaking, I was involuntary. I had no control over it. 246 00:15:10.320 --> 00:15:13.240 That I wasn't breathing night and I wasn't thinking right. 247 00:15:13.320 --> 00:15:17.720 And by the sixth cigarette, they finally calmed down enough. 248 00:15:17.759 --> 00:15:21.639 When I started my truck up and I left, I 249 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:25.320 told my best friend and my dad about this. They 250 00:15:25.360 --> 00:15:27.919 couldn't believe it. They were freaked out because they know 251 00:15:28.120 --> 00:15:31.200 me because my best friend I've hunted with them for 252 00:15:32.320 --> 00:15:36.399 twenty five years and on many seagu hunting trips, many 253 00:15:36.600 --> 00:15:40.360 deer hunting. I did a lot of outdoor things, and 254 00:15:40.480 --> 00:15:44.679 of course my dad, which I've done many things with. 255 00:15:45.360 --> 00:15:48.360 They both couldn't believe. The next day I went to 256 00:15:48.399 --> 00:15:52.039 the ranger station at the min in Old Glacier. I 257 00:15:52.200 --> 00:15:56.080 reported what happened to me, and the arranger I was 258 00:15:56.120 --> 00:16:01.039 talking to says, these heard many reports of had in 259 00:16:01.039 --> 00:16:04.720 that same area before. I wasn't the first one, and 260 00:16:04.799 --> 00:16:08.639 he just wrote my information down. Greta, have you heard 261 00:16:08.639 --> 00:16:10.639 of this book the Rainco Sasquatch. 262 00:16:11.600 --> 00:16:14.799 Yeah, I know doctor Ali. I speak to him regularly 263 00:16:15.279 --> 00:16:17.080 in contact with him. He's good guy. 264 00:16:17.879 --> 00:16:18.200 Yeah. 265 00:16:18.360 --> 00:16:20.799 Yeah, I met him too at a Sasquat conference on 266 00:16:20.879 --> 00:16:23.240 Jena last summer, Okay. 267 00:16:23.360 --> 00:16:25.159 Was it after they got off the cruise there? 268 00:16:25.960 --> 00:16:29.600 Yeah, I ran off the crews doctor Meldrum, the scientist 269 00:16:29.679 --> 00:16:34.360 from Idaho. Yeah, he was there Raincos Sasquatch. It was 270 00:16:34.399 --> 00:16:39.240 an incident at the same place. Three women had a 271 00:16:39.240 --> 00:16:44.399 little campfire at the beginning of the Westclincher trail Okay. 272 00:16:44.440 --> 00:16:47.080 So there's been a lot of sightings there. Of course, 273 00:16:47.480 --> 00:16:52.679 from that sighting, I really started the interest of learning 274 00:16:52.679 --> 00:16:55.519 more about what I saw. I have to mention. One 275 00:16:55.519 --> 00:16:58.960 more thing about this is I stayed away from the 276 00:16:59.000 --> 00:17:02.360 woods for many years. Years. I would tell the story 277 00:17:02.399 --> 00:17:05.480 maybe a couple of times a year. In first two years, 278 00:17:06.319 --> 00:17:10.119 every time I started having a story, there would rise up. 279 00:17:10.880 --> 00:17:14.640 It was the most puzzling thing. I never had that before. 280 00:17:15.519 --> 00:17:18.279 I think he mentioned it's a primal fear. It just 281 00:17:18.319 --> 00:17:20.519 takes over and you have no control over it. It's 282 00:17:20.680 --> 00:17:26.559 just there. Yeah. Twenty seventeen, I happened to go close 283 00:17:26.640 --> 00:17:29.440 to the beginning of the Westvio Glacier Trail. I was 284 00:17:30.000 --> 00:17:33.079 and kind of going up a little ways, but when 285 00:17:33.079 --> 00:17:35.319 I got to the parking lot, the fear rose up 286 00:17:35.359 --> 00:17:39.759 in me again. I said, nope, I'm not going. Twenty 287 00:17:39.880 --> 00:17:43.720 eighteen had to been in the middle of summer. My 288 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:48.279 brother Bulah went with me. We did the hike. I 289 00:17:48.279 --> 00:17:50.720 think I did a lot of processing at that time 290 00:17:50.799 --> 00:17:54.000 because I was finally was able to tell the story 291 00:17:54.119 --> 00:17:59.000 without feeling this fear. My brother just agreed to come 292 00:17:59.039 --> 00:18:01.319 with me, so we up the trail all the way 293 00:18:01.359 --> 00:18:05.200 to the end. I couldn't find the spot where this 294 00:18:05.359 --> 00:18:08.799 incident happened. It was on my way back that I 295 00:18:08.960 --> 00:18:12.720 found it. Found exactly where I was standing and I 296 00:18:12.799 --> 00:18:17.200 found a tree where this creature was, where the sasquatch 297 00:18:17.440 --> 00:18:21.400 was standing behind. That was something else. I meant, it 298 00:18:21.480 --> 00:18:25.559 was definitely healing, but there was something being there. So 299 00:18:26.079 --> 00:18:26.799 when you saw. 300 00:18:26.680 --> 00:18:28.599 It during the daylight, did it give you a better 301 00:18:28.680 --> 00:18:30.680 idea of exactly how tall it was? 302 00:18:31.559 --> 00:18:34.599 Yeah, that's what I was doing. I was doing measurements. 303 00:18:34.920 --> 00:18:37.359 I didn't have a tape measure. I set off roughly 304 00:18:37.960 --> 00:18:41.839 judging my footsteps how far I was from that tree. 305 00:18:42.200 --> 00:18:45.480 I was about thirty feet. The tree is about fourteen 306 00:18:45.519 --> 00:18:50.039 inches in diameter. It's a big western handlock. Just looking 307 00:18:50.079 --> 00:18:54.240 at and seeing where I was, I'm still the same size. 308 00:18:54.279 --> 00:18:58.160 I was guessing that it had been like twelve foot 309 00:18:58.559 --> 00:19:04.240 babe taller. It was big. Showing my relatives that they've 310 00:19:04.240 --> 00:19:07.240 seen him up to fifteen feet, I mean, there's some 311 00:19:07.359 --> 00:19:10.599 really big ones down in Southeast, especially in the southern 312 00:19:10.640 --> 00:19:11.599 part of Southeast. 313 00:19:12.279 --> 00:19:16.759 Yeah, that's what I've heard as well, some just crazy sizes. 314 00:19:16.920 --> 00:19:19.480 I myself have seen him roughly damn near the same 315 00:19:19.559 --> 00:19:23.759 size thirteen fourteen foot and that's just massive. It's really 316 00:19:23.799 --> 00:19:28.279 hard to wrap your mind around that. Just huge, so hulking. 317 00:19:28.359 --> 00:19:32.519 What always threw me off is just how thick, hulking 318 00:19:32.559 --> 00:19:36.000 they are just massive. When they get that size, it's unreal. 319 00:19:36.319 --> 00:19:41.680 I said. I remember sitting was as nice because I 320 00:19:41.680 --> 00:19:45.119 could see his leg, but I saw how wide they were. 321 00:19:46.000 --> 00:19:48.960 The kind of reminded me of my grandfather. My grandfather 322 00:19:49.160 --> 00:19:53.400 was almost six foot and my grandfather snake name was 323 00:19:53.440 --> 00:19:57.480 Cowboy Sean and he was extremely tough. End up fighting 324 00:19:57.519 --> 00:20:00.000 off a brown bear when he was younger and he killed. 325 00:20:00.039 --> 00:20:03.960 But we all have relatives who were really old fashion, 326 00:20:03.960 --> 00:20:08.000 and he used to row his boat or trawling, laying 327 00:20:08.079 --> 00:20:11.759 out the elebent lines out, just pull it up by 328 00:20:11.839 --> 00:20:15.319 hand because they couldn't afford an engine or something to 329 00:20:15.640 --> 00:20:18.279 pull up the gear. There was some of them rollder 330 00:20:18.319 --> 00:20:21.359 relops were extremely tough, and it told me stories about 331 00:20:21.440 --> 00:20:25.880 these creatures and it is always read an impression on 332 00:20:25.960 --> 00:20:30.119 me that what they saw must have been amazing because 333 00:20:30.160 --> 00:20:35.079 they were afraid. I had never seen fear any of 334 00:20:35.440 --> 00:20:38.319 my relatives. Yeah, that speaks volumes. 335 00:20:38.359 --> 00:20:41.319 When someone that you know is a nobs kind of guy, 336 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:44.519 a rough and tough guy that turns in the lexus 337 00:20:44.599 --> 00:20:46.799 you and says I was scared. That to me is 338 00:20:47.039 --> 00:20:51.359 definitely something because guys like that man cheese. Like my grandpa. 339 00:20:51.400 --> 00:20:55.200 They used to use a sailboat salmon fishing cheese. Oh man, 340 00:20:55.599 --> 00:20:58.000 man pulling in by hand when they're getting a quarter 341 00:20:58.039 --> 00:21:00.359 of fish or whatever it happened to be at the time. 342 00:21:00.400 --> 00:21:04.599 But yeah, just that level of toughness. It's really lacking with. 343 00:21:04.480 --> 00:21:08.680 Our modern age and the way things they're easy, which hey, 344 00:21:08.799 --> 00:21:11.000 all the better. I'm not knocking it is a totally 345 00:21:11.000 --> 00:21:15.880 different life back then. Just hardcore. He had to earn it. 346 00:21:16.359 --> 00:21:18.880 Yeah, it was a different time because one my grandfather 347 00:21:19.079 --> 00:21:22.200 warn't out hunting me out ago two bullets a week, 348 00:21:23.000 --> 00:21:25.039 so I was during World War two, so that was 349 00:21:25.079 --> 00:21:28.240 a shortage of ammal and you had to make sure 350 00:21:28.319 --> 00:21:29.200 you were a good shot. 351 00:21:29.960 --> 00:21:32.319 Well yeah, I never squeezed a trigger. 352 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:33.519 Unless I knew it was going down. 353 00:21:34.480 --> 00:21:37.400 Yeah, I raised the same way. One shot, one killed 354 00:21:37.599 --> 00:21:37.839 for what. 355 00:21:38.119 --> 00:21:40.279 You don't want the animal to suffer out of respect, 356 00:21:40.279 --> 00:21:43.000 and too, animal was expensive here, it didn't want to 357 00:21:43.079 --> 00:21:44.839 rest it anyway. 358 00:21:45.200 --> 00:21:47.680 Those are the two sightings. At some point I'll be 359 00:21:48.000 --> 00:21:51.039 in the interior and maybe we can talk more because 360 00:21:51.039 --> 00:21:54.200 I have a lot more stories within my family and 361 00:21:55.480 --> 00:21:59.000 I've been collecting stories. Yeah, definitely, I have three hundred 362 00:21:59.079 --> 00:22:04.920 videos on My Life top all sasquatch. I mean, nice, hey, man, 363 00:22:05.000 --> 00:22:06.000 you go everywhere. 364 00:22:06.599 --> 00:22:09.640 That's excellent though, because I'm doing basically the same thing. 365 00:22:09.680 --> 00:22:11.799 But I add them to the interactive map. People who 366 00:22:11.799 --> 00:22:14.000 are going to areas can have kind of a reference 367 00:22:14.039 --> 00:22:16.279 guy to potential behaviors to look out for. 368 00:22:16.480 --> 00:22:18.079 The al hoots, the whistles. 369 00:22:18.119 --> 00:22:24.400 There's reports of them imitating people's voices, known babies. It's ooh, 370 00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:28.039 that would be creepy. Yeah, would to get My cousin, 371 00:22:28.119 --> 00:22:31.160 Elizabeth Ostrohawk. Her and another relative were lord out of 372 00:22:31.160 --> 00:22:35.079 their apartment on Alaska Island by this thing imitating a baby. 373 00:22:35.119 --> 00:22:39.319 They knew the cry of that level of cunning is 374 00:22:39.359 --> 00:22:43.720 scary to you. A women's natural instinct against them is 375 00:22:43.920 --> 00:22:47.759 just oop. That's high level predator stuff right there. 376 00:22:47.799 --> 00:22:47.960 Man. 377 00:22:48.640 --> 00:22:50.799 Like I say in the next video, tell you more 378 00:22:51.039 --> 00:22:55.480 mind clinker relatives and Yukon. I know it's not in Alaska, 379 00:22:55.519 --> 00:22:59.839 but they're relatives also names, which is in the US. Yeah, 380 00:23:00.000 --> 00:23:02.519 there's so many stories in that area going up to 381 00:23:02.839 --> 00:23:07.279 Inlands Junction, a lot of stories on the highway just 382 00:23:07.319 --> 00:23:11.799 in that whole area. Just amazing amount. Yeah, no doubt. 383 00:23:11.880 --> 00:23:14.160 I'm happy to hear them, but if they're relativesm or not, 384 00:23:14.599 --> 00:23:17.160 it's all part of your oral history. That's what this 385 00:23:17.319 --> 00:23:20.200 is about, is getting those things out there because we're 386 00:23:20.240 --> 00:23:21.720 losing a lot of it with a lot of the 387 00:23:21.759 --> 00:23:24.240 elders that are passing away and the kids don't seem 388 00:23:24.319 --> 00:23:27.559 to care as much anymore. It's not like that everywhere, however, 389 00:23:27.920 --> 00:23:31.160 it is happening from an oral history when no one 390 00:23:31.160 --> 00:23:33.960 else is talking about the oral history, and then you 391 00:23:34.039 --> 00:23:35.200 no longer have a history. 392 00:23:35.279 --> 00:23:39.400 It's just one of those things. Yeah, yeah, all right, 393 00:23:39.559 --> 00:23:40.839 stick with me a second here. 394 00:23:40.839 --> 00:23:43.039 I will definitely pick this up again here in the 395 00:23:43.079 --> 00:23:45.000 near future and you can share those things with us. 396 00:23:45.279 --> 00:23:47.880 I wanted to share with you guys today. This guy, 397 00:23:48.480 --> 00:23:52.359 his name is Greg He's from the Netherlands. He was 398 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:56.160 here in Alaska doing some ski joring with dogs. They 399 00:23:56.160 --> 00:23:59.559 were doing the idit a Rod trail. Now, this was 400 00:23:59.720 --> 00:24:01.839 a couple months before the idit Arod. The idit a 401 00:24:01.920 --> 00:24:05.000