Speaker 1: Now one of your pudding. I got a string going
Speaker 1: on here, something just because my dog. Something killed your dog,
Speaker 1: my dog. We're flying through the air over the tree.
Speaker 1: I don't know how it did it, Okay, Damn, I'm
Speaker 1: really confused. All I saw was my dog coming over
Speaker 1: the fence and he was dead. And once you hit
Speaker 1: the ground like, I didn't see any cars. All I
Speaker 1: saw was my dog coming over the fence. Happen? What
Speaker 1: are you putting? We got some wonder or something crawling
Speaker 1: around out here? Did you see what it was?
Speaker 2: Or was it was?
Speaker 1: Standing enough? I'm out here looking through the window now
Speaker 1: and I don't see anything. I don't want to go outside.
Speaker 1: Jesus quice, you better hello, get somebody out here.
Speaker 3: What went on out there?
Speaker 1: I thought of a bit of about sixty nine. I
Speaker 1: don't know him out there. Yeah, I'm right away.
Speaker 4: Oh hey, greeting is this friend in Alaska? Thanks for
Speaker 4: joining me today. Today we are going to do an interview.
Speaker 4: Go ahead and introduce yourself.
Speaker 5: My name is Sonny Grant was born and raised in Juno, Alaska,
Speaker 5: a full plane kit. I was born in a wolf clan.
Speaker 5: I was trained by my father to dear on to
Speaker 5: see you on my uncles and my grandfather for fishing,
Speaker 5: mosse Kilnetti power trolling. I've been outside since I was
Speaker 5: very young. Some of the earliest photographs of I was
Speaker 5: on a fishing boat or a little boat somewhere, or
Speaker 5: I was hunting with my dad when I was like six.
Speaker 5: I was very familiar with what's in the woods growing up.
Speaker 5: I have a well known grandfather's names Austin Hammond, and
Speaker 5: he would tell stories. We learned a lot. There was
Speaker 5: a few times I talked with when we talked about
Speaker 5: the cannibal giant and I was very young and I
Speaker 5: was asking what it was and it says, it's a
Speaker 5: wild man in the woods. I didn't know what to
Speaker 5: think about that. As I was getting older, I think
Speaker 5: must have happened in nineteen sixty six. The first sighting
Speaker 5: I had, I was with two friends I loved going
Speaker 5: out in woods with They were clinking as well. They
Speaker 5: always had a twenty two and a pelat gun. So
Speaker 5: I went with them and man, we hiked all over Gino.
Speaker 5: It was amazing because I loved hiking and I found
Speaker 5: the right people to be with. Many times we've been
Speaker 5: up and our favorite destination was the top of Amun Gino.
Speaker 5: If you ever seen a photograph of downtown Gino, you'll
Speaker 5: see a big mountain that rises up to thirty eight
Speaker 5: hundred feet, So it's a really difficult hike to go up,
Speaker 5: but we would run all the way up. It m'd
Speaker 5: have been like late July, I think when we went up,
Speaker 5: because when we were to go up, we would always
Speaker 5: shoot grouse our term again, which is a state bird.
Speaker 5: So I really do do we eat anything we can
Speaker 5: get our scope on. We would do it, and we
Speaker 5: never shot things that we wouldn't eat. To me, that
Speaker 5: was wasteful. I figure, if you're going to put something down,
Speaker 5: you better use it. Many times we went up, we
Speaker 5: all took turns shooting. That's where I learned how to
Speaker 5: tether and clean our grouse and cook it. I just
Speaker 5: learned by watching and then later learn by doing. But
Speaker 5: this one time in July we went up, it was
Speaker 5: kind of odd. We were getting near the top the mountain,
Speaker 5: which is the hardest part of the high just like
Speaker 5: endless switch back that's just going up, and we just
Speaker 5: realized how quiet it was. Really quiet. Usually you'd hear
Speaker 5: Tarmigan's mormots we'd hear other birds and and even insects.
Speaker 5: We'd hear any of that. We finally made it to
Speaker 5: the top and it was really warm out. We sat
Speaker 5: down and we were talking that we didn't see anything.
Speaker 5: We were talking about how quiet it was, and we
Speaker 5: had some prode with us. We sat down, we started eating.
Speaker 5: One of my friends saw something in a distance going
Speaker 5: up as snow slope was a Calli slope. There's patches
Speaker 5: of snow here and there. We looked at as though
Speaker 5: it must be a black bear. He had a little
Speaker 5: four power scope on us, a twenty two, and we
Speaker 5: looked through it and we realized that thing was on
Speaker 5: two feet walking up the hill and walking up really fast.
Speaker 5: The reason why that stood out to us is we
Speaker 5: did that tight from Salmon Creek Dam going up to
Speaker 5: kind of like the northwestern a sent up mounta Gino.
Speaker 5: Not too many people do that because there's no trail.
Speaker 5: We just went right off the Chamma Creek dam and
Speaker 5: just started headed up the mountain bushwalk a way up.
Speaker 5: So we thought that was quite odd that this thing
Speaker 5: was moving really fast, which we all knew how difficult
Speaker 5: it was. Whenever you want it, you take three steps
Speaker 5: and you go back two steps, so it's really difficult hiking.
Speaker 5: We must have watched it for four or five minutes,
Speaker 5: and so it took for it to go up that
Speaker 5: slope that got up to the tree line. And in
Speaker 5: Januar area, the tree line is around two thousand feet.
Speaker 5: Some mountains are twenty one hundred feet. But it's all
Speaker 5: very similar. To think about the tree line is the
Speaker 5: trees at the treelane, they're all about six foot tall
Speaker 5: than anything above that. There's nothing but shrubs and bushes.
Speaker 5: There's no trees. That thing each the top, we noticed
Speaker 5: it was really tall. It was much taller than the trees,
Speaker 5: and we said, man, we all start talking that we
Speaker 5: knew what it was. We didn't call it the hairy
Speaker 5: man back then, but call it the world.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 5: There's a clicket term I just can't pronounce because I'm
Speaker 5: not a native speaker. That we saw it, we knew it.
Speaker 5: It was a sasquatch. Oh no, my friends start hiring
Speaker 5: the twenty two. Of course, at twenty two it only
Speaker 5: goes half mile three quarters of mile. The best just
Speaker 5: trying to make sounds to make it turn around and
Speaker 5: look at us. But it totally ignored us, and it
Speaker 5: just kept going and once it passed the tree line,
Speaker 5: it only took a few minutes when I reach the
Speaker 5: top of the ridge and we watched you walk over
Speaker 5: the ridge and then disappeared on the other side. That time.
Speaker 5: That's sighting I'll never forget because it made me very
Speaker 5: curious what these creatures was. I told my father my uncles,
Speaker 5: and he told me more stories sightings that they've heard
Speaker 5: and some of them have seen. That just started something
Speaker 5: in me about being very curious of what this was.
Speaker 5: We have a lot of stories in my tribe about
Speaker 5: creatures in the woods, and the one we know the
Speaker 5: most is the cannibal giant. And the cannibal giant is
Speaker 5: I can fifteen, pretty tall. They catch you, they'll eat you.
Speaker 5: In fact, there's a well known totem vo in southeast.
Speaker 5: It's a cannibal giant hesehold and the man. The man
Speaker 5: on the totem. The guy is dead and he's upside
Speaker 5: down and this creature's holding them. We always knew about them.
Speaker 5: We're told never to go in the woods, especially the women.
Speaker 5: My purpose of going there was I wanted a videocap
Speaker 5: to glacier. When you go there. It rumbles like every
Speaker 5: ten minutes. And when I rumbles, there was ice moving.
Speaker 5: I wanted to capture that on video. I must have
Speaker 5: been there an hour and a half and I finally
Speaker 5: got it on the video. I got the rumble of
Speaker 5: the gray shirt and I saw the ice moving. I
Speaker 5: felt hot. I finally got what I wanted. That's when
Speaker 5: I realized how late it was. It was between four
Speaker 5: and four thirty and the sun was getting ready to
Speaker 5: just set way out in the distance of the sun
Speaker 5: was just getting ready to disappeared behind these islands out
Speaker 5: in lincolnal. I said, Man, I'm going to be in
Speaker 5: darkness in no time. So I gathered everything I had collapsed,
Speaker 5: my tripop in my pack, and I started heading back
Speaker 5: as fast as I could. I probably piked a mile
Speaker 5: down when I got caught in the darkness. It just
Speaker 5: got so dark because I was in the woods and
Speaker 5: I was so dark, I couldn't even see my feet.
Speaker 5: I was wearing tennis shoes and they were white. I
Speaker 5: couldn't even see my feet. So it was very slow going.
Speaker 5: I knew that trail so well. I also stood still
Speaker 5: for ten minutes to let my eyes suggest or I
Speaker 5: could see something that wasn't much light continue down. As
Speaker 5: I was going down, I heard something walking. I was
Speaker 5: at a part of the trail where as I'm hiding
Speaker 5: down that trail, on the left of me, there's this
Speaker 5: little granite dome. It's not that igh, it's only like
Speaker 5: thirty forty feet taller than me. When you go on
Speaker 5: top of that dome. On the other side, it's a
Speaker 5: mininol glacier. It just drops right down to the glacier.
Speaker 5: And on my right there's this little valley that slowly rises,
Speaker 5: and it's a really steep little valley to slope through,
Speaker 5: like forty some degrees. Whatever is this thing of walking
Speaker 5: down at the bottom going up the mountain. I was
Speaker 5: listening to it and the sound of loud I couldn't
Speaker 5: recognize what it was because it sounded more than three
Speaker 5: or four footsteps. Usually if it's an animal, you would
Speaker 5: recognize it, like a moose or deer. That deer and
Speaker 5: you would only hear it if they're racing. But usually
Speaker 5: deer a very silent as they run through the woods.
Speaker 5: But you could hear moose, and of course bears you
Speaker 5: just heard them because they just crashed through everything. I
Speaker 5: couldn't recognize this. I knew the bears were ebernating, who
Speaker 5: had no clue. Was too big to be a woos.
Speaker 5: They're party quiet. I remember thinking, whatever you go on
Speaker 5: or I'm going this way, which was down, and you're
Speaker 5: going the other way, which is up. Stopped moving, And
Speaker 5: when it stopped moving, I stopped because I was trying
Speaker 5: to figure out what it was doing this only it
Speaker 5: took one to two seconds of me stopping one owner
Speaker 5: was started launching it. This thing was running up the mountains,
Speaker 5: running up the side of the handle towards me. It
Speaker 5: was crashing through a lot of brush. There's a lot
Speaker 5: of Sitka Spress, Western End Block, Devil's Club, and blueberry bushes.
Speaker 5: The reason why I know there's blueberries because many times
Speaker 5: I've hiked down that little valley and infect blueberries. It's
Speaker 5: really tough going through that brush, and this thing was
Speaker 5: ripping through like a train. The fear just rose up
Speaker 5: to me so great I even tasted it in my mouth.
Speaker 5: I've never been afraid. I've come across many animals since
Speaker 5: I was hunting brown beerries. Moose was surrounded by packslaars
Speaker 5: and you're supposed to talk to them at least that's
Speaker 5: what they teach us in my tribe. But this fear
Speaker 5: was so great I just couldn't believe it. He had
Speaker 5: realized it running up towards me. It only took two
Speaker 5: three seconds to reach me. I remember having a literal
Speaker 5: lamp on my Sony camcorder. Once you flip up, it
Speaker 5: turns on, and I flicked it up. It wasn't a
Speaker 5: bright light, but it's mostly even made to light subjects
Speaker 5: five six feet away at the most. Whatever this thing
Speaker 5: was like thirty feet or so. It was pitch black.
Speaker 5: I saw it behind a western hemlock. That western hemlock
Speaker 5: tree must have been like ten inches twelve inches in diameter.
Speaker 5: It was still collar me, but yet it was down
Speaker 5: the mountain, down the hill, so I was looking at
Speaker 5: its size. I couldn't see any detail. I saw. It
Speaker 5: was a blackness, a silhouette. I could see his head
Speaker 5: and knows bob and behind the tree as it was
Speaker 5: looking at me, And I saw his shoulders which was
Speaker 5: like five feet in within it, I saw the length
Speaker 5: of his torso, and I saw his legs which looked
Speaker 5: like tree trunks. It takes me a long time to
Speaker 5: describe what I saw but this all happened. But then
Speaker 5: just a seconds and I yelled and whistled in the
Speaker 5: end up running against my better judgment because you're not
Speaker 5: supposed to run from animals, but the fear on me
Speaker 5: was so great it just like all common sense went out.
Speaker 5: And I was moving, and I heard these things moving
Speaker 5: up to where I was as I was running, and
Speaker 5: you got to realize I was running and pitch blackness.
Speaker 5: I knew I saw that one, but I was wondering
Speaker 5: where the other one was. Because when those twas split
Speaker 5: up when they were running up the hill, I found
Speaker 5: like two guys running, two big guys. That's when I
Speaker 5: just left and I ran as fast as I could.
Speaker 5: I ran into a tree and almost knocked myself out.
Speaker 5: I felt the blood going down my fork kit. I
Speaker 5: just kept going. Member was a random mile. There's this
Speaker 5: little switchbacks which has you said, all chains for a rail.
Speaker 5: So I knew exactly where I was and I just
Speaker 5: followed that going down that Kevin going until I got
Speaker 5: to the level ground. By the time I got to
Speaker 5: the level ground, I stopped. I listened. I didn't hear
Speaker 5: anything behind me. I was relieved about that, but I
Speaker 5: was shaking so hard because when I first started running,
Speaker 5: I heard it behind me. I heard some noise. I
Speaker 5: just said, no, weird exactly. So I just started walking
Speaker 5: back to my truck, which was at the parking lot.
Speaker 5: Those of you who bend to Jannal It's nearest Skeeter's
Speaker 5: campin on Mend in all Lake As where the starts
Speaker 5: in the West Glasier Trail was. I made it back
Speaker 5: back then I was a smoker. I wasn't a heavy smoker,
Speaker 5: but I like cigarettes. I got in my truck, slammed
Speaker 5: the door shut, blocked it. The chain smoked like six
Speaker 5: cigarettes in a rail just because I was shaking so much.
Speaker 3: And stay tuned for more Sasquat Chatasy right back after
Speaker 3: these messages.
Speaker 5: For shaking, I was involuntary. I had no control over it.
Speaker 5: That I wasn't breathing night and I wasn't thinking right.
Speaker 5: And by the sixth cigarette, they finally calmed down enough.
Speaker 5: When I started my truck up and I left, I
Speaker 5: told my best friend and my dad about this. They
Speaker 5: couldn't believe it. They were freaked out because they know
Speaker 5: me because my best friend I've hunted with them for
Speaker 5: twenty five years and on many seagu hunting trips, many
Speaker 5: deer hunting. I did a lot of outdoor things, and
Speaker 5: of course my dad, which I've done many things with.
Speaker 5: They both couldn't believe. The next day I went to
Speaker 5: the ranger station at the min in Old Glacier. I
Speaker 5: reported what happened to me, and the arranger I was
Speaker 5: talking to says, these heard many reports of had in
Speaker 5: that same area before. I wasn't the first one, and
Speaker 5: he just wrote my information down. Greta, have you heard
Speaker 5: of this book the Rainco Sasquatch.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know doctor Ali. I speak to him regularly
Speaker 4: in contact with him. He's good guy.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I met him too at a Sasquat conference on
Speaker 5: Jena last summer, Okay.
Speaker 3: Was it after they got off the cruise there?
Speaker 5: Yeah, I ran off the crews doctor Meldrum, the scientist
Speaker 5: from Idaho. Yeah, he was there Raincos Sasquatch. It was
Speaker 5: an incident at the same place. Three women had a
Speaker 5: little campfire at the beginning of the Westclincher trail Okay.
Speaker 5: So there's been a lot of sightings there. Of course,
Speaker 5: from that sighting, I really started the interest of learning
Speaker 5: more about what I saw. I have to mention. One
Speaker 5: more thing about this is I stayed away from the
Speaker 5: woods for many years. Years. I would tell the story
Speaker 5: maybe a couple of times a year. In first two years,
Speaker 5: every time I started having a story, there would rise up.
Speaker 5: It was the most puzzling thing. I never had that before.
Speaker 5: I think he mentioned it's a primal fear. It just
Speaker 5: takes over and you have no control over it. It's
Speaker 5: just there. Yeah. Twenty seventeen, I happened to go close
Speaker 5: to the beginning of the Westvio Glacier Trail. I was
Speaker 5: and kind of going up a little ways, but when
Speaker 5: I got to the parking lot, the fear rose up
Speaker 5: in me again. I said, nope, I'm not going. Twenty
Speaker 5: eighteen had to been in the middle of summer. My
Speaker 5: brother Bulah went with me. We did the hike. I
Speaker 5: think I did a lot of processing at that time
Speaker 5: because I was finally was able to tell the story
Speaker 5: without feeling this fear. My brother just agreed to come
Speaker 5: with me, so we up the trail all the way
Speaker 5: to the end. I couldn't find the spot where this
Speaker 5: incident happened. It was on my way back that I
Speaker 5: found it. Found exactly where I was standing and I
Speaker 5: found a tree where this creature was, where the sasquatch
Speaker 5: was standing behind. That was something else. I meant, it
Speaker 5: was definitely healing, but there was something being there. So
Speaker 5: when you saw.
Speaker 4: It during the daylight, did it give you a better
Speaker 4: idea of exactly how tall it was?
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's what I was doing. I was doing measurements.
Speaker 5: I didn't have a tape measure. I set off roughly
Speaker 5: judging my footsteps how far I was from that tree.
Speaker 5: I was about thirty feet. The tree is about fourteen
Speaker 5: inches in diameter. It's a big western handlock. Just looking
Speaker 5: at and seeing where I was, I'm still the same size.
Speaker 5: I was guessing that it had been like twelve foot
Speaker 5: babe taller. It was big. Showing my relatives that they've
Speaker 5: seen him up to fifteen feet, I mean, there's some
Speaker 5: really big ones down in Southeast, especially in the southern
Speaker 5: part of Southeast.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's what I've heard as well, some just crazy sizes.
Speaker 4: I myself have seen him roughly damn near the same
Speaker 4: size thirteen fourteen foot and that's just massive. It's really
Speaker 4: hard to wrap your mind around that. Just huge, so hulking.
Speaker 4: What always threw me off is just how thick, hulking
Speaker 4: they are just massive. When they get that size, it's unreal.
Speaker 5: I said. I remember sitting was as nice because I
Speaker 5: could see his leg, but I saw how wide they were.
Speaker 5: The kind of reminded me of my grandfather. My grandfather
Speaker 5: was almost six foot and my grandfather snake name was
Speaker 5: Cowboy Sean and he was extremely tough. End up fighting
Speaker 5: off a brown bear when he was younger and he killed.
Speaker 5: But we all have relatives who were really old fashion,
Speaker 5: and he used to row his boat or trawling, laying
Speaker 5: out the elebent lines out, just pull it up by
Speaker 5: hand because they couldn't afford an engine or something to
Speaker 5: pull up the gear. There was some of them rollder
Speaker 5: relops were extremely tough, and it told me stories about
Speaker 5: these creatures and it is always read an impression on
Speaker 5: me that what they saw must have been amazing because
Speaker 5: they were afraid. I had never seen fear any of
Speaker 5: my relatives. Yeah, that speaks volumes.
Speaker 4: When someone that you know is a nobs kind of guy,
Speaker 4: a rough and tough guy that turns in the lexus
Speaker 4: you and says I was scared. That to me is
Speaker 4: definitely something because guys like that man cheese. Like my grandpa.
Speaker 4: They used to use a sailboat salmon fishing cheese. Oh man,
Speaker 4: man pulling in by hand when they're getting a quarter
Speaker 4: of fish or whatever it happened to be at the time.
Speaker 3: But yeah, just that level of toughness. It's really lacking with.
Speaker 4: Our modern age and the way things they're easy, which hey,
Speaker 4: all the better. I'm not knocking it is a totally
Speaker 4: different life back then. Just hardcore. He had to earn it.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it was a different time because one my grandfather
Speaker 5: warn't out hunting me out ago two bullets a week,
Speaker 5: so I was during World War two, so that was
Speaker 5: a shortage of ammal and you had to make sure
Speaker 5: you were a good shot.
Speaker 3: Well yeah, I never squeezed a trigger.
Speaker 5: Unless I knew it was going down.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I raised the same way. One shot, one killed
Speaker 3: for what.
Speaker 4: You don't want the animal to suffer out of respect,
Speaker 4: and too, animal was expensive here, it didn't want to
Speaker 4: rest it anyway.
Speaker 5: Those are the two sightings. At some point I'll be
Speaker 5: in the interior and maybe we can talk more because
Speaker 5: I have a lot more stories within my family and
Speaker 5: I've been collecting stories. Yeah, definitely, I have three hundred
Speaker 5: videos on My Life top all sasquatch. I mean, nice, hey, man,
Speaker 5: you go everywhere.
Speaker 4: That's excellent though, because I'm doing basically the same thing.
Speaker 4: But I add them to the interactive map. People who
Speaker 4: are going to areas can have kind of a reference
Speaker 4: guy to potential behaviors to look out for.
Speaker 5: The al hoots, the whistles.
Speaker 4: There's reports of them imitating people's voices, known babies. It's ooh,
Speaker 4: that would be creepy. Yeah, would to get My cousin,
Speaker 4: Elizabeth Ostrohawk. Her and another relative were lord out of
Speaker 4: their apartment on Alaska Island by this thing imitating a baby.
Speaker 4: They knew the cry of that level of cunning is
Speaker 4: scary to you. A women's natural instinct against them is
Speaker 4: just oop. That's high level predator stuff right there.
Speaker 2: Man.
Speaker 5: Like I say in the next video, tell you more
Speaker 5: mind clinker relatives and Yukon. I know it's not in Alaska,
Speaker 5: but they're relatives also names, which is in the US. Yeah,
Speaker 5: there's so many stories in that area going up to
Speaker 5: Inlands Junction, a lot of stories on the highway just
Speaker 5: in that whole area. Just amazing amount. Yeah, no doubt.
Speaker 4: I'm happy to hear them, but if they're relativesm or not,
Speaker 4: it's all part of your oral history. That's what this
Speaker 4: is about, is getting those things out there because we're
Speaker 4: losing a lot of it with a lot of the
Speaker 4: elders that are passing away and the kids don't seem
Speaker 4: to care as much anymore. It's not like that everywhere, however,
Speaker 4: it is happening from an oral history when no one
Speaker 4: else is talking about the oral history, and then you
Speaker 4: no longer have a history.
Speaker 5: It's just one of those things. Yeah, yeah, all right,
Speaker 5: stick with me a second here.
Speaker 4: I will definitely pick this up again here in the
Speaker 4: near future and you can share those things with us.
Speaker 3: I wanted to share with you guys today. This guy,
Speaker 3: his name is Greg He's from the Netherlands. He was
Speaker 3: here in Alaska doing some ski joring with dogs. They
Speaker 3: were doing the idit a Rod trail. Now, this was
Speaker 3: a couple months before the idit Arod. The idit a
Speaker 3: Rod's typically into February, beginning of March somewhere in there.
Speaker 3: I don't pay attention that anymore. This happened about five
Speaker 3: years ago, him and three others. I think it's from
Speaker 3: the Netherlands or Finland. Somewhere in there. It was hard
Speaker 3: to understand his English. A nice enough guy, so he's
Speaker 3: ski during They're literally with their dogs ski jouring the
Speaker 3: idit Arod Trail, beautiful pristine wilderness. They were about three
Speaker 3: days into it. They had gotten a snow machine ride
Speaker 3: between a couple different checkpoints because of the weather conditions
Speaker 3: in between those checkpoints, and they were just north northwest
Speaker 3: of Rainey Pass. There was a small little hamlet of cabins.
Speaker 5: He said.
Speaker 3: He wasn't quite sure where, and the language barrier made
Speaker 3: it hard to pinpoint, but it's just north northwest of
Speaker 3: Reney Pass, he guesstimated, about three four miles. Again, I
Speaker 3: wasn't there. I don't know however, it was him and
Speaker 3: a few others from the Netherlands as well, I think
Speaker 3: a couple from Norway and Finland or something. Again, it
Speaker 3: was hard to understand the guy. So what ends up
Speaker 3: happening is they all break up into their own little
Speaker 3: personal groups because two of them knew each other and
Speaker 3: the other two knew each other and it was a
Speaker 3: mutual friend of the other person kind of thing. So
Speaker 3: they broke up into the individual little cabins. Most cabins
Speaker 3: up here people unless they bear proof them and lock
Speaker 3: them up for bears that will leave them open with
Speaker 3: no food or anything, just as a shelter. I know
Speaker 3: our cabins back home in Dillingham, up the Newshgak River.
Speaker 3: We leave them unlocked so no one has to break
Speaker 3: anything to get in, and leave some firewood in there
Speaker 3: and some can goods dashed with a note on the
Speaker 3: table because bears can't read notes on where the can
Speaker 3: goods are. So anyway, I digress. They get there and
Speaker 3: they're whooped, they are tired. They have their dogs. Each
Speaker 3: of them had two dogs that were tethered to for
Speaker 3: the ski drawing. So what they ended up doing is
Speaker 3: there's three of these little cabins, all within eyesight of
Speaker 3: each other. Now, these cabins there Caribou cabin style, basically
Speaker 3: a skinned two by material little shed, basically glorified shed.
Speaker 3: They call them caribou cabins. I don't know if you
Speaker 3: guys have seen them. So they're in these things, and
Speaker 3: these were strictly put there to be removable, and they
Speaker 3: were part of a checkpoint at some point for the
Speaker 3: idea UD officials or some shit. So now it's wintertime,
Speaker 3: only one of these places still had a stove in it,
Speaker 3: so they all warmed up in the one it's dark
Speaker 3: out already, and they leave to go to their individual
Speaker 3: cabins after they warmed up. So as he gets into
Speaker 3: his cabin, he brings his dogs in. The dogs immediately
Speaker 3: are circling inside of this little cabin, real nervous. He
Speaker 3: didn't notice and being nervous when he was bringing them in.
Speaker 3: He put them in, came outside and was smoking a cigarette.
Speaker 3: Before calling it at night, he had said that he
Speaker 3: was smoking a clove cigarette. One of the smells that
Speaker 3: wafted past his nose was like he had a bad cigarette,
Speaker 3: and so he figured, ah, this one's garbage. I want
Speaker 3: to enjoy one. So he put that out, lit another
Speaker 3: one and still had this funky smell and realized wasn't
Speaker 3: a cigarette, it was something.
Speaker 5: Just out of sight. Now.
Speaker 3: He was on the end of this run of three.
Speaker 3: So if you're looking at the three cabins, he would
Speaker 3: be to the one to the far right. He's looking
Speaker 3: off to the right hand side of this place, trying
Speaker 3: to see what's going on. Now in wintertime, when it's dark,
Speaker 3: if there's any ambient light, the snow will reflect it
Speaker 3: and it'll have kind of a soft glow. And so
Speaker 3: he's watching and he notices a shadow moving in the distance.
Speaker 3: It's just moving back and forth. There's no wind. That's
Speaker 3: where that tree is moving. Thought, not too much of it,
Speaker 3: sparse vegetation, according to him, it wasn't heavily treed in
Speaker 3: that spot with some trees, but not heavily treated. But
Speaker 3: it was just dark enough to where he couldn't make
Speaker 3: shit out. So he finishes his cigarette just periodically looking
Speaker 3: over in that direction because he is getting the creeps.
Speaker 3: Goes inside after a cigarette and is using one of
Speaker 3: those little sternal stoves to heat up some coffee and
Speaker 3: something to eat. As he's doing that, he notices dark
Speaker 3: movement in front of the window just catches his eye
Speaker 3: and he looks up. Not in there. Dogs were in
Speaker 3: a corner. He said he heard movement. As the movement
Speaker 3: was going around the cabin. The dogs were going to
Speaker 3: the opposite corner each time from this movement. He's bewildered
Speaker 3: at what his dogs are doing. He had spent good
Speaker 3: money for his dogs, had them flown from Europe over
Speaker 3: here to do this thing. He's really perplexed at what
Speaker 3: the hell's going on now. As he's debating on what's
Speaker 3: going on with the dogs, he catches movement on the
Speaker 3: opposite window. He catches his eye something moved past. As
Speaker 3: it moved past, he noticed just the slightest glint from
Speaker 3: eyeshine from his lantern he had on in this little cabin,
Speaker 3: and that glint caught his eye and gave him a feeling.
Speaker 3: He said in his soul that all was not well.
Speaker 3: He said he couldn't now. He was trying to explain
Speaker 3: this with broken English. So I may paraphrase a couple
Speaker 3: of things. It's not to take away from it or
Speaker 3: add to it. It's just because of the language barrier.
Speaker 3: He broke into Dutch. Periodically. He'd be talking and trail
Speaker 3: off in the Dutch and I'd have to catch him anyway.
Speaker 3: So he catches his glint of eyeshine and immediately feels
Speaker 3: it in his soul, knows all is not well. So
Speaker 3: immediately he starts banging, going around, banging on the wall,
Speaker 3: yelling get away. All he saw was that glint in darkness.
Speaker 3: He couldn't make out. He didn't see a face or anything,
Speaker 3: just that slight glint from the light. So he grabbed
Speaker 3: his little ski pole. It was winter time. There's really
Speaker 3: outside of moose whatnot. They weren't carrying firearms. They weren't
Speaker 3: even carrying bare spray.
Speaker 5: And stay tuned for more sasquatch out to see. We'll
Speaker 5: be right back after these messages.
Speaker 3: They had their little ski poles. So he grabbed the
Speaker 3: ski pole, and he had a little ice axe and
Speaker 3: he grabs that, puts on his head lamp, turns it on,
Speaker 3: goes outside. Now he thinks it's one of the other
Speaker 3: little members of his team that are on this little excursion,
Speaker 3: but he wants to make sure, so he goes out
Speaker 3: and he's walking around and he's looking down on the
Speaker 3: ground at these tracks and at first it just looked
Speaker 3: like snowshoe tracks, and he's like, okay, it's one of them.
Speaker 3: This is a familiar size. And then he gets around
Speaker 3: two of the corners and he hears movement in the brush.
Speaker 3: Off to his right hand side and not off his
Speaker 3: left shoulder is this little cabin. So he turns and
Speaker 3: leans back against the cabin, just to have a backstop
Speaker 3: to lean back against, because when the snow falls on
Speaker 3: these places, it leaves a trough between the structure itself
Speaker 3: and the eve line of the roof. So he got
Speaker 3: this trough that can be pretty deep depending on the snow.
Speaker 3: He slid down in this a little bit, and he
Speaker 3: was trying to get his foot back out as he's
Speaker 3: leaning back, leaning back against the cab, trying to pull
Speaker 3: his leg out of this little trough. Anyone who's been
Speaker 3: up in Alaska or anywhere where it snows knows what
Speaker 3: I'm talking about. That little trough that you'll pull you
Speaker 3: under a building if it's real silicual slide under that anyway.
Speaker 3: So while he's doing that, he's looking down, then looking around,
Speaker 3: and the second time he looks around, he looks over
Speaker 3: to his right a little more and sees the eye shine. Now,
Speaker 3: this eye shine, he said, was what'd he say, three
Speaker 3: and a half four meters which would be what nine
Speaker 3: to twelve foot somewhere in there. I didn't do any
Speaker 3: conversion map, but he said three to four meters tall.
Speaker 3: As he was trying to figure out what the hell
Speaker 3: he was looking at, this thing was swaying back and forth.
Speaker 3: He said he wasn't breathing, taking his breath away, and
Speaker 3: he's not but really frightened. So he immediately starts sidestepping
Speaker 3: to go back around this corner to get around away
Speaker 3: from this thing over here. He successfully gets back inside,
Speaker 3: shuts latches a little door, basically sits down against the door,
Speaker 3: trying to figure out what he was just saying, because
Speaker 3: he said he saw a hairy neanderthal man, gray skin,
Speaker 3: big face, the eyeshine was amber orange ish red, something
Speaker 3: like that. He wasn't sure if he was hallucinating or not.
Speaker 3: He came back in and the only thing that broke
Speaker 3: his train of thought was his little sternal stove. He
Speaker 3: was boiling something on. It was fizzing over, so it
Speaker 3: got his attention. He shut off his little stove, and
Speaker 3: that broke his train of thought on that shit he
Speaker 3: just saw. Just momentarily, all of a sudden, there's a
Speaker 3: fump against the door, a big, heavy thump, like something
Speaker 3: was going to try to break in. But it was
Speaker 3: just a single time bamp shook him up to his core.
Speaker 3: He didn't know what to do, so he started yelling
Speaker 3: for his buddies in the other cabins. Now one of
Speaker 3: the other guys that he was unfamiliar with. He came
Speaker 3: over with the nice acs and the other people followed
Speaker 3: him with their headlamps, all looking everywhere. He's yelling at
Speaker 3: him in Dutch or whatever they speak. Watch out, there's
Speaker 3: a wild man. There's a wild man. They all start
Speaker 3: looking around, and he was looking out the window as
Speaker 3: they were searching because he was freaked out. He wasn't
Speaker 3: going back outside as he was yelling at them through
Speaker 3: the window to be careful. It was big. They all scatter,
Speaker 3: They all scatter around, are banging on his cabin door,
Speaker 3: so he lets them in. They all scurry in. Just
Speaker 3: as they get in and shut the door. On the
Speaker 3: back side of that little cabin was a big fam
Speaker 3: He said. It sounded like the place was going to explode.
Speaker 3: So this thing ran up and hit the cabin. Said
Speaker 3: it was only hit once, but it shook the whole place.
Speaker 3: A moment later was a very loud scream.
Speaker 5: He said.
Speaker 3: It's almost sounded like it was yelling into the wall.
Speaker 3: The whole place was just kind of They didn't know
Speaker 3: what the hell did What do you do with that?
Speaker 3: You're a foreigner visiting Alaska to do the idit a
Speaker 3: rod trail. You have days of beauty and unsurpassed scenery,
Speaker 3: then all of a sudden you get into some rinking
Speaker 3: ink cabins north northwest of Rainy Pass. Now it's all bad,
Speaker 3: all bad. As they're trying to figure out what the
Speaker 3: hell they're all looking at each other. This is different.
Speaker 3: This wasn't a no brochure. They tried to coax the
Speaker 3: dogs up. These particular dogs. I guess they're European hunting,
Speaker 3: bear tracking dog or some shit who knows. The dogs
Speaker 3: wouldn't do shit regardless. They were a bear dog, smart dog,
Speaker 3: basically a smart dog. It wasn't doing nothing. So they
Speaker 3: literally sat there. No one breathed, it seemed like, he said,
Speaker 3: for a good while, good couple hours. After some time
Speaker 3: it calmed down. The rest of the group decided they're
Speaker 3: going to make a break for their cabins, keep an
Speaker 3: eye out for each other, scream if they need help.
Speaker 3: They'll settle it like that, because they all had their
Speaker 3: own sleeping arrangements, So they gingerly went back out made
Speaker 3: their ways over just as it was getting the light
Speaker 3: in the morning. He didn't sleep at all. He was
Speaker 3: dead dog tired, but he couldn't fall asleep, he said.
Speaker 3: Just as it was starting to get light on the horizon,
Speaker 3: he had happened to be staring out the window, kind
Speaker 3: of hypnotized his zone and out staring out a window
Speaker 3: and realized there was a big thing in the window.
Speaker 3: As soon as he sits up, it moves out away
Speaker 3: the window. So as it moves out of the way
Speaker 3: of the window, the dogs light up, and this time
Speaker 3: the dogs bark and come over by the window and
Speaker 3: are yapping right ro ro. He hears heavy footfall in
Speaker 3: the snow, moving away, not fast, but just moving away.
Speaker 3: Don't and so on, So he's relieved that it's leaving,
Speaker 3: so he decides he opens the door and lets the
Speaker 3: dogs out. The dogs run out, and they tear off
Speaker 3: in that direction, barking where he said he doesn't know
Speaker 3: where they got their fearlessness from all of a sudden,
Speaker 3: because all night they were cowardice little bitches over in
Speaker 3: the corner. All of a sudden they're gung ho to
Speaker 3: go after it. So he let them out. They run off, barking.
Speaker 3: He hears them barking for a while in one area
Speaker 3: and moving a little bit and barking and moving and barking.
Speaker 3: Then they come scurrying back. A few minutes later. He
Speaker 3: felt confident enough they had run it off. All the
Speaker 3: barking and noise and whatnot lit up the other dogs
Speaker 3: with the other teammates, and they started barking and shit
Speaker 3: inside their cabins, waking everyone up. So, with the events
Speaker 3: of the night before, they're all paranoid. They're up, they're
Speaker 3: throwing on their shit, they're grabbing their little ice axes
Speaker 3: and their little ski poles, and they're coming out to
Speaker 3: look and help or whatever. Right, so when they open
Speaker 3: their doors, the other dogs they take off. So there's
Speaker 3: eight dogs total on this trip. All eight are now
Speaker 3: off into the trees. Everyone there is trying to call
Speaker 3: them back. Now when he notices his teammates come out,
Speaker 3: he comes out of his cabin and starts telling them, hey,
Speaker 3: they ran off, they were running it off. They'll come back.
Speaker 3: So they sit around waiting and calling for the dogs periodically. Finally,
Speaker 3: after he said it was after like two hours, the
Speaker 3: dogs come back. One of them had a broken leg,
Speaker 3: and the two of them weren't right. I asked him
Speaker 3: to elaborate, what do you mean not right? He said,
Speaker 3: they weren't acting like dogs. They would just walk in.
Speaker 3: They followed the other dogs and trailed the other dogs
Speaker 3: coming in but all they would do is walk in
Speaker 3: a little circle. They were just stuck on something, so
Speaker 3: those two dogs were worthless from that point on, he said.
Speaker 3: So they ended up lasing up what they could the
Speaker 3: two dogs that mentally they would follow, but they wouldn't pull,
Speaker 3: so they at least knew they could tether them and
Speaker 3: the dogs would follow along. The one with the broken leg.
Speaker 3: The other teammate threw the pack style over his shoulders
Speaker 3: until they got to the next spot to get out
Speaker 3: of there. When they got to the next place, he
Speaker 3: couldn't remember the name of the little village. There was
Speaker 3: a language barrier. All he could say is wild man.
Speaker 5: Man.
Speaker 3: No one was understanding him, so they got him the
Speaker 3: flight and all that kind of stuff to get the
Speaker 3: dogs out of there and them out of there. He
Speaker 3: hasn't been back here since. He has a hard time
Speaker 3: scheduling over in Norway or the Netherlands, wherever the hell
Speaker 3: he lives. I think it's Finland. I'm pretty sure. If
Speaker 3: I'm wrong, man, hey, shoot me an email, let me
Speaker 3: know if it's wrong or not. It was hard to
Speaker 3: understand you, but yeah, I could imagine they spent quite
Speaker 3: a bit of money to come over here. They got
Speaker 3: similar terrain over there, but it's not Alaska, and they
Speaker 3: wanted to do the idea or odd trail. Goodness, gracious, Yeah,
Speaker 3: it's not a good feeling to be stuck in somewhere
Speaker 3: not knowing what's going on around you. Trust me, it's
Speaker 3: not a good feeling. Who do you go to with
Speaker 3: this shit without coming across like a maniac or a weirdo. Anyway,
Speaker 3: what's easy for someone who hasn't dealt with something like
Speaker 3: that to chalk it up is that guy lost his
Speaker 3: mind out in the woods too long talking to the birds.
Speaker 3: It's not that kind of party anyway, until the next one.
Speaker 6: They say, oh home, but you can't stay and I
Speaker 6: don't want to be a long world opensis.
Speaker 7: Chid the chart, that chart everything. Can you ride back?
Speaker 7: Ride back?
Speaker 2: And the joy for me?
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Speaker 7: sat side side.
Speaker 2: Stay stay State, Still stas Still Games and still Stills.
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