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<v Speaker 1>What's up, everyone, and welcome to another episode of the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein Chronicles. In this episode, we're going to pick up

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<v Speaker 1>with the Bill Clinton transcript from his trip to Congress.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, Mr. President. Thank you. We have a series

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<v Speaker 1>of questions from some of the members in the minority,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I'll be calling them up as we go through.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I just want to also again thank you

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<v Speaker 1>for being here and answering all the questions. We appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>that and you for your service. Just two clarifying questions.

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<v Speaker 1>One was asked during the and I just want to

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<v Speaker 1>have you reiterate it for the record. Either during or

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<v Speaker 1>after your presidency, were you ever made aware of Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein having any kind of relationship, directly or indirectly, with

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<v Speaker 1>a foreign intelligence agency or a service? I ask because

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<v Speaker 1>we've received a lot of interest and communication about that topic,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I want to give you a chance to

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<v Speaker 1>answer that again if there is anything else. Bill Clinton, no,

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<v Speaker 1>I wasn't, and I understood why now when you showed

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<v Speaker 1>me the passport, but I wasn't. I didn't know anything

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<v Speaker 1>about that. question, thank you. And then second, of course,

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<v Speaker 1>this deposition also sets a pretty new precedent, I think,

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<v Speaker 1>which is something that we've been discussed and folks across

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<v Speaker 1>the country are discussing as well. We're thankful that you're here.

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<v Speaker 1>We believe in the minority that President Trump should also

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<v Speaker 1>answer this committee's questions. He's someone that is mentioned almost

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<v Speaker 1>more than any other person beside Glenn Maxwell in the

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein documents. So to get more information for this investigation,

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<v Speaker 1>was wondering if, You would also agree that President Trump

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<v Speaker 1>should answer questions to this committee. Bill Clinton, that's for

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<v Speaker 1>you to decide. But he did know him well, and

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<v Speaker 1>I once had a brief discussion with him about it. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you, and thanks for that answer. With that, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>going to go to Mr. Walkinshaw, and we'll go down

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<v Speaker 1>a series of questions. Clinton, I hate this, because I

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<v Speaker 1>don't believe I should inject anything. But I do not

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<v Speaker 1>want to leave the impression, but since there was no

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<v Speaker 1>follow-up question, the President never... and this is 20-something years ago,

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<v Speaker 1>never said anything to me to make me think he

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<v Speaker 1>was involved in anything unprofitable with regard to Epstein either.

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<v Speaker 1>He just didn't. He just said we were friends, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we had a falling out over a land deal,

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<v Speaker 1>property deal, that's all. Question, thank you. Could I ask

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<v Speaker 1>very briefly, Mr. President, if you recall, what were the

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<v Speaker 1>circumstances of that conversation, or at least let's start with

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<v Speaker 1>when did that conversation occur? Bill Clinton- It was on

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<v Speaker 1>his golf course. There was a couple of years there

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<v Speaker 1>when Joe Torre, who had been the manager of the

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<v Speaker 1>Yankees and was a friend, had a tournament. A charitable

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<v Speaker 1>golf tournament called appropriately for this investigation the Safe at

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<v Speaker 1>Home Foundation. It was designed to combat domestic violence of

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<v Speaker 1>which Joe Torre had been a victim as a child.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to support it. Donald Trump gave him the

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<v Speaker 1>golf course in New York to have the tournament and

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<v Speaker 1>I played in it a couple times. The day I

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<v Speaker 1>was there, Donald Trump would come out and play a

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<v Speaker 1>few holes with us. He somehow knew I had flown

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<v Speaker 1>on Jeffrey Epstein's aircraft, and he said, we had some

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<v Speaker 1>great times together over the years, but we fell out

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<v Speaker 1>because of a real estate deal. He said, I'm sorry

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<v Speaker 1>it happened. That's all. Question, do you recall whether President

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<v Speaker 1>Trump was the first one to affirmatively bring up the

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<v Speaker 1>subject of Jeffrey Epstein? Answer, no, but I'd be shocked

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<v Speaker 1>if he did, or if I did. I just don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. Question, Do you recall whether President Trump elaborated

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<v Speaker 1>at all on the great times that he had with

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein? Answer. No, no, not at the time. I

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<v Speaker 1>didn't put any sexual spin on it. Question. And as

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<v Speaker 1>far as you recall, President Trump characterized the nature of

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<v Speaker 1>the ending of their friendship as being solely due to

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<v Speaker 1>the real estate bidding. Answer. That's what he said. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Answer. But I didn't think much about it

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<v Speaker 1>at the time. And it was two minutes and then

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<v Speaker 1>we were gone. Question. As far as you recall. Have

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<v Speaker 1>you had any other conversation with President Trump related to

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<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey Epstein or Ghislaine Maxwell? Answer, no. Question, and your

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<v Speaker 1>best recollection, if you have one, of the year that

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<v Speaker 1>this conversation occurred? Bill Clinton, 2002-2003? Thank you, Mr. President.

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<v Speaker 1>Good afternoon. I just want to focus again on Ghislaine Maxwell. First,

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<v Speaker 1>I'll ask you just to reiterate, did you ever at

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<v Speaker 1>any point during your interaction with Ms. Maxwell know about

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<v Speaker 1>the sexual abuse she committed? and facilitated against minors and women?

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton, no. Question, when did you learn that she

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<v Speaker 1>engaged in crimes against girls and young women? Answer, when

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<v Speaker 1>the first evidence came out. When was it, 2019? Question, okay.

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<v Speaker 1>Have you ever engaged in sexual activity with a person

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<v Speaker 1>introduced to you by Ghislaine Maxwell? Answer, no. Question, you're

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<v Speaker 1>aware that she was convicted of crimes, as we discussed,

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<v Speaker 1>and you're aware that she's currently incarcerated as a result

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<v Speaker 1>of her federal conviction? Answer, yes. Question, Maxwell received a

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<v Speaker 1>20-year sentence for her crimes. Are you aware that she

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<v Speaker 1>has repeatedly called on President Trump to grant her clemency

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<v Speaker 1>and that she said that you and President Trump are

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<v Speaker 1>not guilty of any wrongdoing with respect to Epstein? Answer,

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<v Speaker 1>I know that now, yes. Question, in your opinion, does

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<v Speaker 1>she deserve or should be granted clemency by President Trump? Answer,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think I should comment on that. I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know anything about President Trump other than what I've already

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<v Speaker 1>told you. I thought that was a mistake to pardon

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<v Speaker 1>everybody in the January 6th case. I think that the

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<v Speaker 1>thing was really hard for me when it came out

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<v Speaker 1>because we had been friendly with Ghislaine. I was sad,

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<v Speaker 1>but it was terrible what she did and she had

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<v Speaker 1>to be punished. Somebody beside me should make a decision

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<v Speaker 1>on what they did. So she got 20 years and

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<v Speaker 1>there it is. You know what's so wild about this?

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<v Speaker 1>He's lying because everybody knew what Ghislaine Maxwell was all

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<v Speaker 1>the way back in the day and he still chose

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<v Speaker 1>to hang out with her But because he's on people's team,

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<v Speaker 1>it's okay, right? Fucking disgusting. Question. Okay, Mr. President. On

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<v Speaker 1>July 24th, 2025, the Deputy Attorney General and President Trump's

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<v Speaker 1>former personal attorney, Todd Blanch, conducted a closed-door interview of Ms.

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<v Speaker 1>Maxwell at her then-low-security prison on August 1st, 2025. Just

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<v Speaker 1>a few days after that interview, she was transferred to

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<v Speaker 1>a low-security prison in where she's afforded a list of amenities,

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<v Speaker 1>personalized meals, playtime with puppies, a transfer that I think

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<v Speaker 1>most Americans agree is inconsistent with a very serious crime

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<v Speaker 1>she was convicted of. Do you have any opinion on

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<v Speaker 1>her transfer to that lower security prison and the amenities

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<v Speaker 1>she's been granted? Did it seem strange to you when

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<v Speaker 1>you learned of that? Answer, I think you're in a

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<v Speaker 1>better position to find out what happened than I am.

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<v Speaker 1>You notice how cautious he is around the Glenn Maxwell topic?

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<v Speaker 1>I wonder why. Question. Okay. When you were president of

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<v Speaker 1>the U.S., was it common for your deputy attorney general

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<v Speaker 1>to directly conduct interviews of witnesses and or federal inmates? Question.

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<v Speaker 1>Was it? You were there. Answer. You have to testify

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<v Speaker 1>what you know, what you recall. Do you recall? Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>He's asking, did you ever send a deputy attorney general,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton, to the best of my knowledge? I did

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<v Speaker 1>not do that. Question. All right. Thank you, Mr. President.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton. May I ask a question? Representative Foster. Are

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<v Speaker 1>you still the youngest person in Congress? Representative Foster, yes

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<v Speaker 1>I am, Mr. President. Bill Clinton, lucky you. Foster, hopefully

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<v Speaker 1>that changes. If you're the youngest, for too long, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not good. Oh, give me a break, who cares? What

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<v Speaker 1>the fuck does this have to do with Epstein? Bill Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>come time, believe me, I was for most of my

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<v Speaker 1>one day I woke up, I was the oldest man

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<v Speaker 1>in every room and I couldn't tell you for the

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<v Speaker 1>rest of the life of me how I got from

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<v Speaker 1>one place to the other. Time will take care of it.

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<v Speaker 1>Enjoy it while it lasts. Oh, how cute. Isn't that great? Question.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Thank you. It's a blessing to be the

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<v Speaker 1>oldest person in the room as well. Mr. President, I

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<v Speaker 1>just wanted to circle back to the conversation you had

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<v Speaker 1>with Jeffrey Epstein on the golf course or with, sorry,

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<v Speaker 1>Donald Trump on the golf course in New York. President Trump,

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<v Speaker 1>has said publicly multiple times that his falling out with

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein was a result of him hiring away workers from

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<v Speaker 1>Mar-a-Lago and his crimes. He said that's why he kicked

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<v Speaker 1>him out of Mar-a-Lago. I have two questions about this.

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<v Speaker 1>Did President Trump specifically characterize the result of this land

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<v Speaker 1>dispute that had as a falling out specifically to the

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<v Speaker 1>best of your gets cut off by Clinton? Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 1>said both wanted the same piece of land. He didn't

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<v Speaker 1>say what it was. And that's all I remember. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>And he said it was a falling out as a

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<v Speaker 1>result of that? Answer, yeah. Said it strained the relationship. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>do you know when this conversation happened? Answer, when the

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<v Speaker 1>conversation I had with him happened? Answer, uh-huh. Question, or

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<v Speaker 1>excuse me. Answer, well, I had, it had to be

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<v Speaker 1>in 2002 or 2003, I think. Question, 2002, 2003. All right,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. During any of your interactions with Jeffrey Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>or Glenn Maxwell, did either of them ever mention or

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<v Speaker 1>discuss their relationship or connections? With Howard Lutnick? Answer, no. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>how about the relationship or connection with Alex Acosta? Answer, no. Question, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>thank you. Those are my questions. Now it's Melanie Stansberry

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<v Speaker 1>doing the questioning. Good morning, Mr. President. Answer, good morning. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm Melanie Stansberry. I represent New Mexico's 1st Congressional District,

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<v Speaker 1>and it's an honor to have you and your counsel here.

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<v Speaker 1>This is a very important investigation, and we obviously have

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of questions. For me personally, this case is

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<v Speaker 1>all about justice for the victims. And I really appreciate

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<v Speaker 1>in your opening statement, your statement about nobody being above

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<v Speaker 1>the law, including a president. And I think it's important

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<v Speaker 1>that we're setting the precedent for Congress establishing oversight and

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<v Speaker 1>subpoena power over a president. And I believe Donald Trump

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<v Speaker 1>should and ultimately will be in front of this body.

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<v Speaker 1>I also appreciate what you said about women and girls

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<v Speaker 1>who were abused by Jeffrey Epstein deserving justice and healing.

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<v Speaker 1>And that's where I'd like to focus my questions. In particular,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to focus on three survivors who have shared

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<v Speaker 1>their stories that involve you. I want to begin with

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<v Speaker 1>Maria Farmer. Do you know who Maria Farmer is? Maria

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<v Speaker 1>Farmer was employed by Jeffrey Epstein and abused by him

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<v Speaker 1>for a number of years. And she first reported her

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<v Speaker 1>abuse to the New York PD and FBI in 1996.

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<v Speaker 1>She states she has personal knowledge that you visited Jeffrey

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<v Speaker 1>Epstein's house three to four times while you were the

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<v Speaker 1>sitting president between 95 and 96. She says she knows

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<v Speaker 1>this based on photographs that Ghislaine Maxwell showed to her,

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<v Speaker 1>as well as discussions with the staff. So let me

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<v Speaker 1>ask you, Mr. President, Did you visit Jeffrey Epstein's house

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<v Speaker 1>while you were president? Answer. I don't remember doing that.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't believe I did. Question. How do you explain

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<v Speaker 1>the discrepancy? Objection. Clinton's lawyer calls. Calls for him to speculate. Answer.

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<v Speaker 1>don't remember being there. Question. Okay. Moving on to Virginia Roberts.

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<v Speaker 1>Are you familiar with her? Answer. Uh-huh. Question. As has

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<v Speaker 1>already been established, she stated in numerous sworn statements, including

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<v Speaker 1>In fact, this morning, her family shared her diary with me,

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<v Speaker 1>and in it is a quote wherein she writes, quote,

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton met two times island with two girls, CTGM

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<v Speaker 1>and JE. What's your reaction to that? Bill Clinton, it's

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<v Speaker 1>not true. Oh yeah, just like Monica Lewinsky wasn't true, huh?

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<v Speaker 1>Another person calling Virginia a liar. That's nice. Question. Do

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<v Speaker 1>you have any dates associated with that? Were there dates

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<v Speaker 1>on the diary? His lawyer asks. Question by Stansberry. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't have that information, but we'll be happy to share

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<v Speaker 1>it with you. Answer by his lawyer. It would be

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<v Speaker 1>terrific because I think there are also records that would

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<v Speaker 1>reflect where else he would have been. So thanks. Clinton.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she say that in her book? Question by Stansberry.

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<v Speaker 1>This is from her personal diary that her family shared

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<v Speaker 1>with us. Clinton. Yeah, but the book came out more recently.

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<v Speaker 1>Did she say that in the book? Stansberry. I'm just

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<v Speaker 1>reading you the entry from her diary that her family

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<v Speaker 1>shared with me. Clinton. I think she ultimately reached a

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<v Speaker 1>different conclusion. Although I had no contact with her. No,

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<v Speaker 1>she did not. Wow. And just to be clear, Virginia

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<v Speaker 1>never said that Bill Clinton did anything untowards. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>she said he was a gentleman. And I believe her.

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<v Speaker 1>I also believe her that he was on the island. Question, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>I just want to make sure that it's on the record.

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<v Speaker 1>That is Virginia's statement. Did you ever fly in a

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<v Speaker 1>helicopter with Glaine? Bill Clinton, ever, anywhere? I have no idea. Question, okay, well,

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<v Speaker 1>at least one of the survivors claims that you flew

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<v Speaker 1>in a helicopter with Glaine Maxwell to the island. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>did you ever? His lawyer asks, Bill Clinton, then I

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<v Speaker 1>did not do that. I've never been to that island. Question, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>the third person I want to talk about briefly is

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<v Speaker 1>Shantae Davies. I know we've already mentioned her here today.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you already mentioned that she was listed as

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<v Speaker 1>a flight attendant on the trip to South Africa in

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<v Speaker 1>2002 that you took with Jeffrey Epstein. Are you aware

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<v Speaker 1>that Shantae Davies is a survivor who claimed she was

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<v Speaker 1>abused for three years, including during that time period? Bill Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>I am now. Question, are you aware that Jeffrey Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>recruited his victims through calling them masseuses? Bill Clinton, no. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>you're not aware that Jeffrey... She gets cut off by Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>but it doesn't surprise me. But I didn't know that, no. Question,

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that Jeffrey Epstein recruited hundreds of minors as masseuses

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<v Speaker 1>to massage him, and knowing that his victims, who was

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<v Speaker 1>a survivor of three years of his sexual abuse as

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<v Speaker 1>a masseuse, was on the plane, does that make you

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<v Speaker 1>think about the massage you received from her differently? The

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer jumps in, can I just interrupt? You're saying knowing,

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<v Speaker 1>you know that. He was saying that he was unaware...

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<v Speaker 1>that that's how Mr. Epstein was recruiting his individuals. Stansberry,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm asking if today. The lawyer jumps in, thank you.

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<v Speaker 1>Bill Clinton, have you seen the picture? Stansberry, I have

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<v Speaker 1>a copy of it, yes, right here. Question while I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sitting up in the... Gets cut off by Stansberry. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>just asking, if now that you know that Jeffrey Epstein

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<v Speaker 1>recruited girls as masseuses, does that reframe the photograph in

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<v Speaker 1>knowing that there were girls on the plane that were

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<v Speaker 1>being abused? His lawyer objects. It states facts, not in

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<v Speaker 1>the record. You can ask this witness what he thinks

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<v Speaker 1>or remembers or remembers or anything that happened, but I

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<v Speaker 1>don't think it's right to ask him to speculate. Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>she wants to know if I feel bad about it, yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Representative Stansbury, I'm not. Clinton cuts her off, don't you? Question,

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<v Speaker 1>what I'm trying to get at is that there's a

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<v Speaker 1>culture that surrounded Jeffrey Epstein in which rich and powerful

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<v Speaker 1>people saw young women that were survivors who were being

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<v Speaker 1>abused and didn't say anything and didn't do anything. His

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer jumps in. So was your question, gets cut off

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<v Speaker 1>by Stansberry. Part of what I'm trying to do is

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<v Speaker 1>ask you, we know there was a survivor that was

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<v Speaker 1>on that plane. You've stated you didn't know she was

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<v Speaker 1>a survivor. I understand that. But I'm asking, now that

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<v Speaker 1>you're aware that Epstein was recruiting survivors as masseuses, does

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<v Speaker 1>this make you rethink what you saw as you were

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<v Speaker 1>traveling and interacting with him? The lawyer jumps in. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so he has already spoken to. Bill Clinton cuts the

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<v Speaker 1>lawyer off. No, but I... Lawyer jumps back in. Wait

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<v Speaker 1>a minute, wait a minute. I want to make sure

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<v Speaker 1>that you're clearly answering her question. He's already stated that

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<v Speaker 1>what he saw, what he knows. And so what you're

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<v Speaker 1>now asking him, given what you've now shared with him,

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<v Speaker 1>does he think any differently about what he saw? Stansbury, yeah. Question.

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<v Speaker 1>And what he knew? Thank you. Stansbury, yeah. Thank you. Clinton,

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<v Speaker 1>I wish Shantae would have told me. I liked her,

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<v Speaker 1>but I didn't think it was anything unusual. And I

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<v Speaker 1>can tell you how many airplanes I've been on. where

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<v Speaker 1>rich people asked me to go, and they had someone

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<v Speaker 1>offering a massage. All these boats that you go on,

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<v Speaker 1>and all that, they all do it. Usually I don't

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<v Speaker 1>do that. I'm not into this. Stansberry, well that certainly

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<v Speaker 1>raises some other questions about people offering free massages and boats, etc.

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<v Speaker 1>But I do want to enter a couple of exhibits

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<v Speaker 1>into the record. I know council is prepared to pass

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<v Speaker 1>them out. While that's occurring, we're going to introduce this exhibit.

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<v Speaker 1>What is it? Exhibit 1 or Exhibit I. It'll be

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<v Speaker 1>Minority Exhibit I, which is an FBI PowerPoint that was

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<v Speaker 1>included in the files that was released as part of

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<v Speaker 1>the Epstein Files Transparency Act. I would like to introduce

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<v Speaker 1>this exhibit, which is Exhibit J, which is an internal

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<v Speaker 1>correspondence email between the FBI. Though I'm short on time,

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<v Speaker 1>what I'll describe in both these exhibits is that your

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<v Speaker 1>name appears in FBI tip sheets as having attended parties

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<v Speaker 1>in Jeffrey Epstein's presence in which sexual activities were occurring.

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<v Speaker 1>Did you ever attend a party of any kind or

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<v Speaker 1>any event with Jeffrey Epstein in which sexual activities were occurring?

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<v Speaker 1>Answer no. Question, okay, and then finally, there will be

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<v Speaker 1>many millions of people that watch this deposition. What would

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<v Speaker 1>you like to say to the survivors directly? Clinton, that

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<v Speaker 1>I hope this will produce a sense of finality, and

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think that'll happen until the government starts holding

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<v Speaker 1>onto all these records. I think that the record should

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<v Speaker 1>be released, and I think that We need to come

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<v Speaker 1>up with strategies to help people who can't get over

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<v Speaker 1>this get better. And the most important thing we do,

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<v Speaker 1>I think, besides treat the victims, is increase the guardrails

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<v Speaker 1>that will set off alarm systems and stop other people

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<v Speaker 1>from doing the same thing that Epstein did. Stansbury, thank

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<v Speaker 1>you very much, Mr. President. Bill Clinton, thank you. All right, folks,

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<v Speaker 1>next episode dealing with the topic, we'll pick up where

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