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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. Welcome to episode 574 of Five and Dive.

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<v Speaker 1>It's Monday, August 24th. I'm your host, Craig Goldstein, joined

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<v Speaker 1>as usual by Patrick Dubuque and Jeffrey Paternostro. Patrick, welcome back.

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<v Speaker 1>Good morning. How was deck? How was wood?

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<v Speaker 2>What are your thoughts on the liberty-biberty?

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<v Speaker 1>I don't have any banter. Yeah, I do need to..

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<v Speaker 2>We have a couple updates, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I have a couple updates, yes. I want to thank

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<v Speaker 1>our listener. I'm not going to name the listener. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know if this is trade secret.

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>And I don't think you've listened to the last podcast, Patrick.

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<v Speaker 3>We can explain why. I've listened to most of the

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<v Speaker 3>last podcast, and unfortunately I did ruin the game by

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<v Speaker 3>listening to the podcast.

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<v Speaker 1>Though I did see the... I thought you would know.

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<v Speaker 1>I did see the grid in my chat. I thought

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<v Speaker 1>you would know not to look.

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<v Speaker 3>And I thought, well, I just listened to the podcast

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<v Speaker 3>because I'm like, okay, well, I forgot to bring my

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<v Speaker 3>headphones with me on the drive, which would have been

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<v Speaker 3>really cool to have when I was driving home from

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<v Speaker 3>Portland at 10 o'clock at night on Saturday night in

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<v Speaker 3>just pitch black darkness with nobody around and my family asleep.

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<v Speaker 1>That would have been good. But I did have enough

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<v Speaker 1>chores yesterday that.

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<v Speaker 3>I– It was watering plants and stuff. I listened in.

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<v Speaker 3>I got four, by the way.

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<v Speaker 1>You won. I did. I got Mike Piazza.

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<v Speaker 2>Why did you pick Mike Piazza?

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<v Speaker 1>Because he's famously American. He's like the most famous Marlin

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<v Speaker 1>there is.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I guess in a way.

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<v Speaker 1>He is. It's an indictment on the Marlins, but also...

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<v Speaker 1>Insulting to Jeff Conine.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, the important part is we have learned... That I

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<v Speaker 2>think Craig and I, I don't know if I suggested

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<v Speaker 2>it and Craig confirmed it or vice versa.

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<v Speaker 1>I definitely thought it, I think you said it, but

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<v Speaker 1>I absolutely thought it was CGI. Yes.

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<v Speaker 2>It is in fact, a real puppet designed by Jim

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<v Speaker 2>Henson studios.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. We that's that's inside information.

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<v Speaker 2>We also got a note in the discord from someone

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<v Speaker 2>that has worked, someone that has worked in, I guess,

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<v Speaker 2>like ad analysis, media marketing analysis or whatever. And actually,

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<v Speaker 2>the first... I think it's like the first two or

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<v Speaker 2>three times you see an ad, it doesn't really register

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<v Speaker 2>for you. And the sweet spot is somewhere between 3

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<v Speaker 2>and 15. That's why you see the same ad over

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<v Speaker 2>and over again.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this was... I saw this. Okay, but what about 15,000? Well, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that's fine.

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<v Speaker 2>Look, I'm not going to buy Bush's Beans. I'm a

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<v Speaker 2>Rancho Gordo guy anyway. But it does just annoy me

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<v Speaker 2>every time I see it. But I look up to

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<v Speaker 2>be annoyed and watch the guy... or kid, whatever person,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't remember who it is. Just like throw, I

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<v Speaker 2>don't see the first half of the commercial. Then I,

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<v Speaker 2>I clocked that it's the commercial from the Decepticon intro.

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<v Speaker 2>And then just someone throwing a corn hole, like a

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<v Speaker 2>bean bag into a Bush's baked beans, branded corn.

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<v Speaker 1>Is like, I'm no marketing insider genius or anything. I

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<v Speaker 1>understand the idea of, of repeated impressions. I get that. And,

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<v Speaker 1>and like, yeah, I, you've come around on a song

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<v Speaker 1>on a commercial and whatever. I, I understand. What I'm saying, though,

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<v Speaker 1>is MLB TV has a very specific, like, hardcore audience. Right?

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<v Speaker 1>You're not... People who subscribe to general MLB TV, not

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<v Speaker 1>a single team feed, are watching a lot of MLB TV. Yes. And...

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<v Speaker 1>So they're seeing, but it doesn't matter which games you're watching.

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<v Speaker 1>You're seeing the same commercials.

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<v Speaker 2>I think you get some, you get some regional stuff,

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<v Speaker 2>but it's to your region, not to the region of

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<v Speaker 2>the game you're watching, which will be more interesting. Like

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm not going to buy.

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<v Speaker 1>They used to just show the commercials of the station.

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<v Speaker 1>That was far preferable. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I know I'm not going to go to the furniture

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<v Speaker 2>store in Dallas, Texas, but I'd rather see that if

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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching like Ranger's Well.

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<v Speaker 1>You at least get a sense of the local, like whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, like the fast food chains or whatever.

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<v Speaker 2>I learned about how they, why they, that they sell

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<v Speaker 2>pizza by the pound in Denver.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 3>So yeah, my reaction to learning that was that like,

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<v Speaker 3>that's pretty much the experience of reading every chapter of

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<v Speaker 3>Daniel Kahneman's thinking fast and slow is learning that no,

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<v Speaker 3>the number is way higher and it's so much more

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<v Speaker 3>depressing because than.

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<v Speaker 1>You think it would be.

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<v Speaker 2>Also, congratulations, you're now qualified to work in an MLB

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<v Speaker 2>front office.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you. I finally figured it out. The second thing

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to touch on in banter today is I

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<v Speaker 1>received an email. Oh, did it come to all of us?

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<v Speaker 1>Did you guys see your podcast visibility numbers email?

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<v Speaker 2>If I did, I ignored it.

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<v Speaker 3>No.

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<v Speaker 2>It's garbage. And that's fine. But I did want to.

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<v Speaker 1>They run down some metrics and stuff like that. And

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<v Speaker 1>one of the things that they have here is about

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<v Speaker 1>the Baseball Perspectives Podcast Network, obviously not just Five and Dive,

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<v Speaker 1>but where it ranks today and a number of things.

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<v Speaker 1>So it has keywords. So our top three keywords on

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<v Speaker 1>Spotify rankings, the number one is Baseball Prospects. Okay, makes sense.

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<v Speaker 1>Number two is Base Network. I don't know what that is.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know what that is either.

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<v Speaker 1>Baseball has bases. Yeah, sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>Number three, tux base media. I think we're just on base. Base, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what's happening here. I'm more interested, though, in

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<v Speaker 1>the keywords where we rank second in each of these

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<v Speaker 1>keywords for Apple. Yeah. Sunset district outdoor activities.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Patrick, I think that's all you.

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<v Speaker 2>That's you, Patrick.

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<v Speaker 1>I work hard. Next. Next. Pacific Coast comedy.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, there you go.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's all Patrick.

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<v Speaker 2>We're not on the Pacific Coast otherwise.

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<v Speaker 1>That's also Patrick. And then lastly, Rick Matheson evaluations. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>who is Rick Matheson? I don't know.

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<v Speaker 2>Is that a title of a Party Down episode?

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<v Speaker 1>According to LinkedIn, he is a content manager. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>We do a lot of content. I do like that

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<v Speaker 2>we have added, now we have, we had deck, then

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<v Speaker 2>we had wood, and now we have bass.

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<v Speaker 1>That's right. That's right. Anyway, uh, there, you know, it's

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<v Speaker 1>just an absolute ridiculous email, but I really, I really

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<v Speaker 1>appreciated those. That's all I have to offer. Okay. Anyone

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<v Speaker 1>else have a banter? No. Jeffrey.

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<v Speaker 2>No, we have to get into what's now a longer

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<v Speaker 2>show than I was anticipating three hours ago.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, there was some, I, it's not breaking news

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<v Speaker 1>to anyone. It's, it's, uh, It's news at this point.

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<v Speaker 2>It's certainly news, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Our first segment, Houston, do we have a problem? Dana Brown.

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<v Speaker 1>Dana Brown either has a big problem or no problems,

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<v Speaker 1>depending on the way you look at it. He has been...

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<v Speaker 1>They mutually agreed to part ways.

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<v Speaker 2>Ken Rosenthal's not having it, Craig. Again, yeah, he's... Seriously?

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<v Speaker 2>He's on it.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh, yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay. He's very much, we've got to stop saying this.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, well... They originally, they originally.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, that's what it says in the notes app,

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<v Speaker 2>the fancy notes app that they posted. It's not actually

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<v Speaker 2>the notes app.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I will have to apologize to people. I had

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<v Speaker 1>a childcare situation, so I've not been up on all

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<v Speaker 1>the news. I did see this. Jeff alerted me and I,

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<v Speaker 1>I read about it, but I had not read Ken's,

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<v Speaker 1>It was not a mutual. I also have to think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>it could not be mutual in late August while the

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<v Speaker 1>team is in first place. Now, there's some qualifiers around

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<v Speaker 1>first place, but..

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, there's no qualifiers around first place. They are

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<v Speaker 2>in first place.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, tied for first place. It doesn't mean it's a

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<v Speaker 1>good season. They're under 500 is a qualifier.

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<v Speaker 2>No, and Dana Brown was out of contract in the offseason.

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<v Speaker 1>And, like..

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you wouldn't. So there's like, he's not going to,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like he would pick the playoff roster if

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<v Speaker 2>they make it right. But like, I think it's the Astros.

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<v Speaker 2>Like you're not going to get too creative here. I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not sure they have 26 players, but like, I guess

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<v Speaker 2>the actual question is, look, it's difficult to say if

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<v Speaker 2>Dana Brown did a good job. Obviously they had the

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<v Speaker 2>collapse last year. They had it last year.

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<v Speaker 1>Analyzing what, He did. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>But like what he did, somebody didn't do a good

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<v Speaker 2>job over the last couple of years. How much of

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<v Speaker 2>it was done by Dana Brown and which parts is unclear,

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<v Speaker 2>especially because there are now five people in charge.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. The ones that seem least likely to be him

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<v Speaker 1>are the ones that have done quite well this year. Right.

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<v Speaker 1>So Josh Hader and Christian Walker. Yeah. Yeah. Those those

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<v Speaker 1>deals look pretty good. I mean, like I don't know

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<v Speaker 1>that those are least likely to be him. If you

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<v Speaker 1>run down the major acquisitions, well, I guess this is

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<v Speaker 1>the hard part, Patrick. If you run down the major

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<v Speaker 1>acquisitions during his tenure, which do you think are most

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<v Speaker 1>likely to be him? I'll do this. An extension for

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<v Speaker 1>Christian Javier. I would say that is very likely to

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<v Speaker 1>be him. He talked about wanting to do the Atlanta

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<v Speaker 1>model of extensions. Five years, $ 64 million. That has not

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<v Speaker 1>gone well. Josh Hader, Christian Walker, Tatsuya Imai, the Kyle

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<v Speaker 1>Tucker trade, the Mike Burrows trade, acquiring and then trading

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus Sanchez, and acquiring Yusei Kikuchi. Those are the major acquisitions,

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<v Speaker 1>which fall into most likely to be Dana Brown. Because

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<v Speaker 1>I think you could argue very few of them.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know and you can't know is part of it, right?

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<v Speaker 3>Just in general guideline, Most GMs are probably not the

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<v Speaker 3>throw $ 75 million at a guy in his mid-30s. That

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<v Speaker 3>feels like an owner deal.

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<v Speaker 1>For Walker? For Walker and for, you know, well, I

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<v Speaker 1>guess haters. Walker was 60. 360, I know. I'm being cavalier.

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<v Speaker 1>But those kind of deals feel like the most owner-y deals. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but he's like a cheap owner in a lot of ways.

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<v Speaker 2>He is and he isn't. Like, I don't.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. There was also a Jose Altuve extension, by the way.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, the other issue here is, like, who's taking

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<v Speaker 1>Is anyone?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, Jeff Bagwell doesn't want it. I think if

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff Bagwell wanted... I think if Jeff Bagwell wanted to

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<v Speaker 2>work that much, he would already have that job.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. The answer is John Mazzella.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just going to keep doing this.

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<v Speaker 1>Can John Mazzella consult for two organizations at the same time? Just,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, give them different advice. Yeah, I think... I mean,

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<v Speaker 1>Dana Brown had a very good reputation heading into this job.

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<v Speaker 1>Do you think it's tarnished?

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, to an extent, right? Like people are like

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<v Speaker 2>part of your job as the GM is to manage up, right? Sure.

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<v Speaker 1>But like, are any of the people who've worked for

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<v Speaker 1>Artie Moreno really tarnished? They know that's an Artie Moreno problem. Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, I guess Billy Epler got another job

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, we'll see about Manazian, right? I don't

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<v Speaker 1>know who else. I mean, you go back to Stoneman

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<v Speaker 1>or whatever. Yeah. Okay. But he was there forever. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't... Look, he might just go back to the..

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<v Speaker 1>Click got hired right away.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like in a series. But Click, I don't... You know,

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<v Speaker 1>Click won the World Series, but this is... The Astros

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<v Speaker 1>could win their third title, quote-unquote, under Brown. Sure. Here.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, third division title. Again, there are qualifiers. Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't... It does feel like we just hit certain

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<v Speaker 2>points where not enough people are talking about Jim Crane.

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<v Speaker 2>So Jim Crane's got to remind everyone.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever Jim Crane isn't in the screen, people should be asking.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if they win that division title now, it's going

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<v Speaker 2>to be under Jim Crane as the interim POBO.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, but in that sense, he's always been the POV.

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<v Speaker 2>That's the other part of it, yeah. There is some

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<v Speaker 1>When Jeff said five people, just for people's edification here,

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<v Speaker 1>Brown's duties will be transitioned to assistant GMs Charles Cook,

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<v Speaker 1>Gavin Dickey, and Connor Huff, and to senior advisor Jeff Bagwell.

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<v Speaker 1>Owner Jim Crane will, quote, oversee baseball operations during the

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<v Speaker 1>transition period. Yes. And again, it raises a question like.

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<v Speaker 2>When has he not been overseen? Instead of P-O-B-O, he's

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<v Speaker 2>just O-B-O. He's the overseer of baseball operations.

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<v Speaker 1>Owner baseball operations. Yes. Yeah. But again, like it does

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<v Speaker 1>raise the question of when was he not?

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<v Speaker 2>Right.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And the answer is never.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Certainly not since Lunau left.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, it's interesting to think about. Obviously, the

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<v Speaker 1>Angels are... to me, the primary corollary here. But we

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<v Speaker 1>spend a lot of time talking about the Mets and

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<v Speaker 1>whether if Cohen fired David Stearns, how he even said

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<v Speaker 1>it would be difficult to make the next hire, right?

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<v Speaker 1>I think everyone could acknowledge that, but he came out

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<v Speaker 2>I have this argument a lot in group chats with

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<v Speaker 2>other extremely high-info baseball fans, right? And the idea is

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<v Speaker 2>there are only 30 of these jobs.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you're in a major league front office, the

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<v Speaker 2>goal is to be at the end of the day,

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<v Speaker 2>the guy calling the shots.

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<v Speaker 1>Right. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Like all these guys have egos basically, but I don't,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think people understand.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>There's only 30 jobs, but it's not as simple. Like

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<v Speaker 2>all like 35 now people with like young families that

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<v Speaker 2>and get their kids in new schools, and they want

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<v Speaker 2>a certain amount of job security. And you can argue

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<v Speaker 2>in some cases that they get a little too much,

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<v Speaker 2>depending on the organization, right? But they want more than this.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>I think another underrated factor here is that none of

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<v Speaker 1>Right, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Yes.

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<v Speaker 1>Right?

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<v Speaker 3>They all think they deserve the good job, and they

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's part of it as well. I think

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes with these angel situations, nobody wants to be the

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<v Speaker 3>guy that you can't take credit for the work. You

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<v Speaker 3>want something for the resume. You want to be able

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<v Speaker 3>to show off how smart you are. You don't want

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<v Speaker 3>to go to a job where no one can tell

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<v Speaker 2>Like Paul Toboni, I don't know what the interview and

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<v Speaker 2>negotiations were like, right? But it became very clear that

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<v Speaker 2>as soon as Toboni was hired– He got to basically

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<v Speaker 2>clear out the front office and bring in whoever he wanted.

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<v Speaker 2>And that's ultimately like I think it's more that like

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<v Speaker 2>if I am going to succeed or fail, I am

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<v Speaker 2>confident I can succeed because you don't get to that

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<v Speaker 2>point without having an ego about it. And but I

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<v Speaker 2>want it to be on my own merits.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't want it to be. Jim Crane or Steve

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<v Speaker 2>Cohen or Artie Moreno.

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<v Speaker 1>Also, well, you're naming the bet, but I think also

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<v Speaker 1>very informed. I don't want to speculate too much, but

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<v Speaker 1>it seems to me very informed from where he came

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<v Speaker 1>from in terms of Boston. And that's less about John

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<v Speaker 1>Henry specifically, who I don't think is a bad owner

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<v Speaker 1>the way these guys are. Right. The same way. But

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<v Speaker 1>there is the VPs or AGMs or whatever their title

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<v Speaker 1>is have survived a ton of changes in the Boston

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<v Speaker 1>front office from the head position. My guess is if

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<v Speaker 1>you've seen how that's gone for the person in the

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<v Speaker 1>head position from the inside and Boston, you might want

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<v Speaker 1>to say, who do I not want to enter into

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<v Speaker 1>that situation?

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<v Speaker 2>The learners were very loyal to Mike Rizzo. They gave

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<v Speaker 2>him a lot of time. It's a slightly different configuration

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<v Speaker 2>of learners in charge now, but you at least have

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<v Speaker 2>that to point to when you're taking that job. In

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<v Speaker 2>some ways, the Rockies aren't really a better job than this,

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<v Speaker 2>but in some ways, at least you know you will

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<v Speaker 2>get time. In Seattle, if DePoto is out after this year,

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<v Speaker 2>you can look at that as a very attractive job

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<v Speaker 2>because you know you will get time.

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<v Speaker 1>Imagine such a thing. Well, the Astros spent one year

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<v Speaker 1>being the Mariners. Yeah. Well, less than one year being

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<v Speaker 1>the Mariners.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, the other thing is like, I don't like, like

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<v Speaker 2>the Astros have not been good this year, but also like.

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<v Speaker 1>You say, you know, you'll get time, but sometimes they,

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<v Speaker 1>things start changing. Sure.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm not saying there's no guarantees, right? Like, you know, uh,

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<v Speaker 2>Your team can get sold, right? I assume the new

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<v Speaker 2>owner in San Diego is going to retain Preller, but

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<v Speaker 2>it's not a guarantee, right? Yeah. Things can happen if

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<v Speaker 2>the team gets sold, certainly.

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<v Speaker 1>And also going back to last podcast, by the way,

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<v Speaker 1>he is the... One of the primary owners... Clear Lake

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<v Speaker 1>owns Chelsea. We had that whole discussion with Mark Walter.

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<v Speaker 1>Clear Lake owns Chelsea. Clear Lake is the majority stakeholder of...

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<v Speaker 1>the uh of chelsea and feliciano co-founded it runs it

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<v Speaker 1>something whatever so there i just wanted to.

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<v Speaker 2>Clarify it's a big club and you're not in it

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<v Speaker 2>correct yeah yeah anyway yeah i just don't know what

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<v Speaker 2>like the astros are so weird like i just i

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<v Speaker 2>i guess if you were gonna Like, I don't understand

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<v Speaker 2>the point of this either. Like, there's nothing. You're not,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess you're getting a head start, but also who

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<v Speaker 2>are you getting a head start on interviewing? You also

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<v Speaker 2>have five people running.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there's no one to interview right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Like, there's no, like, I don't know what the point

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<v Speaker 2>of this all is, right? Like, I don't, I only

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<v Speaker 2>lost two or three this weekend. They've been on a

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<v Speaker 2>little bit of skid since getting to like three games

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<v Speaker 2>over 500.

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<v Speaker 1>They are back under 500. Yeah. The Rangers are also

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<v Speaker 1>in first place. You said there are no qualifiers, but

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<v Speaker 1>the Rangers are also in first place. There's no..

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<v Speaker 2>There's no, we don't do that anymore. They have the tiebreaker.

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<v Speaker 2>So they're in first place. Oh, the same record.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I forgot about that. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 3>My immediate and baseless conjecture is that Dana Brown looked

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<v Speaker 3>at his, you know, expiring contract, went into the office

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<v Speaker 3>and lay down an ultimatum.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And, uh, and Jim Crane said, okay. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>He waited until he lost two out of three on

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<v Speaker 2>back under 500. And then, yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't. What a way to run a baseball team, basically.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay. Let's, let's very quickly say. Yeah. The Mariners job

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<v Speaker 1>became open.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I mean, it's certainly the best front office slash

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<v Speaker 2>ownership situation in the AL West right now.

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<v Speaker 1>Is that.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. Go ahead. Write it down. Run it down in

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<v Speaker 2>your head, Greg.

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<v Speaker 1>There's certainly security in the Rangers. There is.

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<v Speaker 3>They're crying poor a lot lately, but the Mariners also

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<v Speaker 3>always cry profitable.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd rather be walking into the Mariners farm system and

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<v Speaker 2>player development apparatus than the Rangers.

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<v Speaker 3>Also, if anything, Topodo's tenure shows that you do get

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<v Speaker 3>a little longer runway in Seattle.

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<v Speaker 1>They've always been very patient.

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<v Speaker 2>It's very weird of me weird for me to think

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<v Speaker 2>of the mariners not i know he hasn't been there

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<v Speaker 2>like that long it's been but it's been like a decade.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah you're kind of answering my question i was going

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<v Speaker 1>to open it up to the to perhaps the orioles

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<v Speaker 1>too because there's a lot of runway yeah seemingly there

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<v Speaker 1>i mean we don't even know if he'll get fired after.

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<v Speaker 2>This it seems like a more involved ownership situation at

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<v Speaker 2>least publicly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah I was going to say Houston, Seattle or Baltimore,

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<v Speaker 1>but I think you have to if you're if we're

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<v Speaker 1>eliminating Houston just on Seattle grounds, then.

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<v Speaker 2>We're as long as as long as your owner doesn't

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<v Speaker 1>It's fine. Yeah. Was that an owner? That was like

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<v Speaker 1>the president, wasn't it?

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<v Speaker 2>I think he had like a small stake. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But his job was to.

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<v Speaker 2>Be the face of the ownership group.

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<v Speaker 1>We will see where it goes. I do. This is

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>To Patrick's point, it probably was something like an ultimatum.

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<v Speaker 1>But to Jeff's point, why would you lay down an

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<v Speaker 1>ultimatum at losing two of three? You know.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, maybe he did it at the end of

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<v Speaker 1>Before the series or whatever, yeah. Yeah, I don't know.

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<v Speaker 1>I can't imagine this. I mean, Jim Crane thinks he

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<v Speaker 2>It's not even that... I don't know how much he

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<v Speaker 2>thinks he knows ball. I mean, he probably thinks he

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<v Speaker 2>knows ball more than he knows ball. But I think

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<v Speaker 2>there's also..

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, the Rafael Montero contract says..

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<v Speaker 2>He wants..

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<v Speaker 1>He wants..

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<v Speaker 2>To get more credit for the whole thing, the whole shebang. Right. Like,

427
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<v Speaker 2>even if he's not super involved with baseball ops, which

428
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<v Speaker 2>I think he probably is like, he just wants like, why?

429
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<v Speaker 2>Like it's my money.

430
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<v Speaker 1>Right.

431
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<v Speaker 2>Like, why am I not, I'm doing all these things

432
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<v Speaker 2>with my money. You have, I'm not picking every single

433
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<v Speaker 2>one of them. Like I should get more credit for it.

434
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<v Speaker 2>I already handed the trophy first, man.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. All right. Let's go to our second segment. I

436
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<v Speaker 1>don't want this. I don't need this. Might be what

437
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<v Speaker 1>Jim Crane said if he received an ultimatum. We are

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<v Speaker 1>back on this subject. It is the AL wildcard contender.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you missed this. All right.

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<v Speaker 3>So what I did, I came back yesterday and I

441
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<v Speaker 3>started writing transactions because I'm like, I need to know

442
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<v Speaker 3>what happened.

443
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<v Speaker 1>And as it turns out, not much. I went and

444
00:23:33.759 --> 00:23:36.140
<v Speaker 1>looked at this. There's not much happening now that after

445
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<v Speaker 1>the trade deadline, there aren't. waiver trades and stuff like that.

446
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<v Speaker 1>But there's also like a one game margin between being

447
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<v Speaker 1>going to the playoffs and not for every team in

448
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<v Speaker 1>the American league. So like little things matter too.

449
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<v Speaker 3>But I was like, Oh, what I'll do is I'll

450
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<v Speaker 3>just go in and look at the standings on the

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<v Speaker 3>day I left and the standings on the day I

452
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<v Speaker 3>came back.

453
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<v Speaker 1>And see how things have changed. Um, but I just opened.

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<v Speaker 3>Up the standings from the day from each day and

455
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<v Speaker 3>my eyes kind of glazed over. I didn't actually finish

456
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<v Speaker 3>the exercise.

457
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<v Speaker 1>That's right. It didn't matter. I couldn't even make it matter.

458
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<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, I have to do math to see

459
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<v Speaker 1>what the situation is. It's just the American League. Yep.

460
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<v Speaker 1>So the Guardians are this week's hot AL wildcard contender.

461
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<v Speaker 2>They are. They swept the Rockies.

462
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<v Speaker 1>They swept the Rockies. They are, you know, to go

463
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<v Speaker 1>through our standard last 10, they are 6-4.

464
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<v Speaker 2>They got to 6-4, yeah.

465
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<v Speaker 1>They got to 6-4. They are tied with the Rangers now.

466
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<v Speaker 1>as Jeff pointed out, just pointed out with the wild card,

467
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<v Speaker 1>with the tiebreaker, excuse me. They are tied with the

468
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<v Speaker 1>Rangers for the wild card. I don't know what the

469
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<v Speaker 1>tiebreaker is between the Guardians and the Rangers.

470
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<v Speaker 2>That's what's ever listed on top on the standings right now.

471
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<v Speaker 1>It's just, okay, so the Rangers have it.

472
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<v Speaker 2>The Rangers have it, okay. I don't know if they

473
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<v Speaker 2>play again or not.

474
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<v Speaker 1>The Rangers lost the wild card to Houston, but have the,

475
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<v Speaker 1>or tiebreaker.

476
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<v Speaker 2>Lost the division.

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<v Speaker 1>Tiebreaker. I'm sorry, I have, I got four hours of sleep.

478
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<v Speaker 1>I am going to screw this up. They lost the

479
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<v Speaker 1>tiebreaker to Houston. They have the tiebreaker advantage over Cleveland. Nonetheless, Cleveland,

480
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<v Speaker 1>four in a row, six and four in their last ten. Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I got nothing. What do you want me to say

482
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<v Speaker 1>about the Guardians?

483
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<v Speaker 2>I will say this. Joe Adele, as a Cleveland Guardian, 258, 329, 532.

484
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<v Speaker 2>That's what they need. I thought I'd been their best hitter. Yeah.

485
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<v Speaker 3>So, of the wildcard contenders, and we can decide, I

486
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<v Speaker 3>guess the Detroit Tigers count. Not if you talk to

487
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<v Speaker 3>anyone who roots for the Detroit Tigers.

488
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly. But we need to in this exercise because of.

489
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<v Speaker 2>All 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6... I think once

490
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<v Speaker 2>you fall behind the Mariners, you are no longer in

491
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<v Speaker 2>the AL wildcard hunt.

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<v Speaker 1>And they are a half game back. But that means

493
00:25:45.109 --> 00:25:47.849
<v Speaker 1>they can get back in. They can, yeah. Of the

494
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<v Speaker 1>seven theoretical third wildcard contenders, only three of them have

495
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<v Speaker 1>a better run differential than New York Mets. So that's

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<v Speaker 1>where we stand.

497
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<v Speaker 2>Mets' offense, it wasn't great against... Actually, it was okay

498
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<v Speaker 2>against the White Sox. They lost 2-1 yesterday. But since

499
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<v Speaker 2>the trade deadline, their offense has really been one of

500
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<v Speaker 2>the best offenses in baseball, which is great to see.

501
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<v Speaker 2>Without Juan Soto as well.

502
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<v Speaker 1>I would point out, by the way, Jeff, that you

503
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<v Speaker 1>mentioned Joe Adele's slash line with Cleveland. That is a

504
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<v Speaker 1>140 OPS play.

505
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<v Speaker 2>It sure is.

506
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<v Speaker 1>Legitimately very good.

507
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I will say, in that sort of context,

508
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<v Speaker 2>the Mets did play the White Sox this week, and

509
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<v Speaker 2>I'm watching this series, and I'm like, the Mets aren't

510
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<v Speaker 2>that much worse than the White Sox.

511
00:26:29.079 --> 00:26:30.039
<v Speaker 1>They might be better.

512
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<v Speaker 2>Even without Juan Soto. Like all these teams they play,

513
00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:34.220
<v Speaker 2>the Padres were in here too. Like they're just not.

514
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

515
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<v Speaker 2>The White Sox lineup is like good, right? The White

516
00:26:38.190 --> 00:26:41.769
<v Speaker 2>Sox lineup can strike quickly, right? Like they had one,

517
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<v Speaker 2>they went back to back to back home runs off Shamanaya.

518
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<v Speaker 2>Cause they let Shamanaya face the righties third time through,

519
00:26:46.450 --> 00:26:49.470
<v Speaker 2>but like they can be a quick strike offense. They

520
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<v Speaker 2>have power, but like, man, that's just not that good

521
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<v Speaker 2>a team.

522
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<v Speaker 1>So the White Sox lineup is good. Yeah. It also requires,

523
00:27:02.359 --> 00:27:07.539
<v Speaker 1>on some level, belief in Tristan Peters has a 117.

524
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<v Speaker 2>They got walk-off home runs in this series from Jake

525
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<v Speaker 2>Rogers and Tristan Peters, which also says something about the

526
00:27:12.029 --> 00:27:13.329
<v Speaker 2>2026 match, to be clear.

527
00:27:13.650 --> 00:27:14.529
<v Speaker 1>Randall Grychuk.

528
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Grychuk's been good.

529
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<v Speaker 1>No, you're saying it like, yeah, yeah, he's been good. No, Jeff. Yeah.

530
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<v Speaker 1>In 172 plate appearances. Yeah, well, he only.

531
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<v Speaker 2>Faces lefties and he can hit lefties.

532
00:27:26.200 --> 00:27:28.490
<v Speaker 1>At 34 years old. Yeah. Is hitting 297, 326, 606.

533
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<v Speaker 1>He hits lefties, Craig.

534
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<v Speaker 2>That's the one thing he does.

535
00:27:34.730 --> 00:27:35.940
<v Speaker 1>That is better than..

536
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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's very good.

537
00:27:37.710 --> 00:27:39.650
<v Speaker 1>Might be the best he's ever hit lefties.

538
00:27:39.950 --> 00:27:40.670
<v Speaker 2>Very possible.

539
00:27:40.750 --> 00:27:45.980
<v Speaker 1>Come on. 606? I mean, look, there's a lot more

540
00:27:46.019 --> 00:27:47.259
<v Speaker 1>to this team that you can..

541
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<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, it's like whatever team's going to win

542
00:27:49.799 --> 00:27:50.059
<v Speaker 2>85 or 86 games.

543
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<v Speaker 1>I am delighted by and believe in Sam Antonacci, above

544
00:27:53.599 --> 00:27:58.099
<v Speaker 1>average hitter. Sure. Right. By the way, Sam Antonacci, 24

545
00:27:58.099 --> 00:28:01.599
<v Speaker 1>hit by pitches on the season. Yes. Set a White

546
00:28:01.619 --> 00:28:05.539
<v Speaker 1>Sox record. You know, I am delighted by and, well,

547
00:28:05.640 --> 00:28:08.299
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if I believe in Miguel Vargas at

548
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<v Speaker 1>139 OPS plus.

549
00:28:10.069 --> 00:28:11.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, like, he's like, I mean, he's always taken.

550
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<v Speaker 1>But I believe he's good. You know I've always believed

551
00:28:13.829 --> 00:28:14.009
<v Speaker 1>he's good.

552
00:28:14.029 --> 00:28:16.450
<v Speaker 2>He's always taken good at bats, but now he can actually, like,

553
00:28:16.880 --> 00:28:17.849
<v Speaker 2>hit for power. Punish you.

554
00:28:17.869 --> 00:28:22.269
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And, and honestly, like, again, this is

555
00:28:22.309 --> 00:28:24.089
<v Speaker 1>a guy who can hurt you. Colson Montgomery can hurt

556
00:28:24.109 --> 00:28:26.309
<v Speaker 1>you very quickly, but he's at a one-on-one. He's not.

557
00:28:26.329 --> 00:28:28.349
<v Speaker 2>He's leading the league in strikeouts too.

558
00:28:28.369 --> 00:28:30.470
<v Speaker 1>Chase, Chase, uh, my draft.

559
00:28:30.549 --> 00:28:31.089
<v Speaker 2>My draft.

560
00:28:31.109 --> 00:28:35.710
<v Speaker 1>Yes. Uh, one-on-nine. And then Murakami, I believe at this point. I,

561
00:28:35.809 --> 00:28:37.269
<v Speaker 1>it's fine. I think he can do this.

562
00:28:37.289 --> 00:28:40.109
<v Speaker 2>And again, that's, that's enough considering the other teams in

563
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<v Speaker 2>AL Central.

564
00:28:41.109 --> 00:28:41.990
<v Speaker 1>It is enough. Yeah.

565
00:28:42.490 --> 00:28:45.009
<v Speaker 2>And like, it's a pretty good bullpen too, honestly. Like,

566
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<v Speaker 2>Brian Hudson's been very good. Grant Taylor was a little

567
00:28:48.450 --> 00:28:51.069
<v Speaker 2>shaky on Sunday, but has generally been quite good.

568
00:28:51.150 --> 00:28:54.849
<v Speaker 1>Well, they've like eked out enough in the rotation that

569
00:28:55.009 --> 00:28:58.509
<v Speaker 1>all these guys that they shoved into the bullpen relatively

570
00:28:58.630 --> 00:29:02.859
<v Speaker 1>quickly are like, yeah, as you said, like Grant Taylor. Yeah.

571
00:29:04.140 --> 00:29:06.079
<v Speaker 2>Grant Taylor probably should be starting for them.

572
00:29:06.380 --> 00:29:07.579
<v Speaker 1>Has been phenomenal.

573
00:29:07.599 --> 00:29:11.279
<v Speaker 2>Sean Newcomb probably should be starting.

574
00:29:11.420 --> 00:29:13.720
<v Speaker 1>Sean Newcomb and Grant Taylor maybe should be starting, but

575
00:29:13.779 --> 00:29:17.789
<v Speaker 1>now that you have them plus brian hudson and.

576
00:29:17.930 --> 00:29:20.690
<v Speaker 2>And jordan hicks has been.

577
00:29:19.910 --> 00:29:22.759
<v Speaker 1>Okay it's it's the good version i mean like look

578
00:29:22.779 --> 00:29:24.019
<v Speaker 1>he's walking almost six per.

579
00:29:23.940 --> 00:29:26.480
<v Speaker 2>Nine that's still the still the good version of jordan hicks.

580
00:29:26.779 --> 00:29:30.079
<v Speaker 1>Well if he's getting ground balls you can you know

581
00:29:30.160 --> 00:29:36.029
<v Speaker 1>mitigate damage right but like you've got at three legitimately

582
00:29:36.049 --> 00:29:38.589
<v Speaker 1>good relievers which means if you get and and two

583
00:29:38.630 --> 00:29:40.089
<v Speaker 1>of them are multi-inning guys.

584
00:29:40.460 --> 00:29:42.980
<v Speaker 2>Yeah in Taylor and using Newcomb as an opener a

585
00:29:43.039 --> 00:29:43.619
<v Speaker 2>lot too to.

586
00:29:43.579 --> 00:29:46.960
<v Speaker 1>Go and Newcomb so like you you can shorten games

587
00:29:47.279 --> 00:29:52.500
<v Speaker 1>right like you can make that work um I don't

588
00:29:52.519 --> 00:29:54.440
<v Speaker 1>know I got I got a lot we're not supposed

589
00:29:54.460 --> 00:29:55.440
<v Speaker 1>to be on the White Sox.

590
00:29:55.319 --> 00:29:57.720
<v Speaker 2>No I don't know I don't have anything else to

591
00:29:57.740 --> 00:29:59.180
<v Speaker 2>say about the Guardians.

592
00:29:58.680 --> 00:30:02.220
<v Speaker 1>At this point Should we move on to Detroit? Sure.

593
00:30:02.819 --> 00:30:05.180
<v Speaker 1>This is an AL wildcard, but it's just the AL Central.

594
00:30:05.359 --> 00:30:05.819
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

595
00:30:06.519 --> 00:30:10.259
<v Speaker 1>Detroit has lost five in a row. Two and eight

596
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<v Speaker 1>in their last ten.

597
00:30:11.180 --> 00:30:11.880
<v Speaker 2>But by the Royals.

598
00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:13.819
<v Speaker 1>Swept by, I mean, that is.

599
00:30:13.839 --> 00:30:16.069
<v Speaker 2>I mean, the Royals keep winning. The Royals are getting

600
00:30:16.109 --> 00:30:17.650
<v Speaker 2>closer to the in the hunt graphic here.

601
00:30:17.849 --> 00:30:19.569
<v Speaker 1>That is, they're seven and a half.

602
00:30:19.609 --> 00:30:21.289
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're getting closer, Craig.

603
00:30:21.369 --> 00:30:22.789
<v Speaker 1>They've won eight in a row.

604
00:30:22.890 --> 00:30:24.109
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're getting closer, Craig.

605
00:30:24.569 --> 00:30:26.910
<v Speaker 1>The Royals, I mean, that is, understanding that they've won

606
00:30:26.930 --> 00:30:29.240
<v Speaker 1>eight in a row. Getting swept by the Royals is

607
00:30:29.420 --> 00:30:29.839
<v Speaker 1>the piss.

608
00:30:30.119 --> 00:30:30.799
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

609
00:30:31.079 --> 00:30:32.859
<v Speaker 1>That is the bottom of the barrel.

610
00:30:32.880 --> 00:30:35.660
<v Speaker 2>I think they've just kind of, the Riley Green injury,

611
00:30:35.700 --> 00:30:38.279
<v Speaker 2>like they've just lost, between trades and injuries, they've just

612
00:30:38.339 --> 00:30:40.109
<v Speaker 2>lost one too many players at this point.

613
00:30:40.730 --> 00:30:44.410
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah, and their bullpen is just blowing games.

614
00:30:44.430 --> 00:30:45.710
<v Speaker 2>Their bullpen is, yeah, terrible.

615
00:30:47.950 --> 00:30:50.809
<v Speaker 1>You know, the amount of messages I receive about Kenley Jansen.

616
00:30:52.170 --> 00:30:58.910
<v Speaker 1>You know, it's bad. I don't know. I don't know what...

617
00:30:59.369 --> 00:31:01.990
<v Speaker 1>This is... The bullpen has blown a ton of games,

618
00:31:02.019 --> 00:31:03.259
<v Speaker 1>which I mentioned in the last podcast.

619
00:31:03.279 --> 00:31:04.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, Dylan Dingler has, like, cooled off.

620
00:31:04.980 --> 00:31:09.299
<v Speaker 1>Oh, cooled off is an understatement.

621
00:31:09.319 --> 00:31:10.460
<v Speaker 2>Cooled off is an understatement.

622
00:31:10.559 --> 00:31:13.609
<v Speaker 1>He has... He's, like... I don't remember the exact, Oh,

623
00:31:13.670 --> 00:31:15.029
<v Speaker 1>I guess he has two hits in his last time,

624
00:31:15.230 --> 00:31:18.829
<v Speaker 1>but he was in like a one for whatever slump.

625
00:31:18.910 --> 00:31:22.349
<v Speaker 1>Like he, okay. His last 14 days, he was hitting,

626
00:31:22.569 --> 00:31:24.890
<v Speaker 1>he's hitting Oh 68, one 28, Oh 91. Yeah.

627
00:31:25.309 --> 00:31:29.759
<v Speaker 2>And it's been a very load bearing Dylan Dingler kind

628
00:31:29.799 --> 00:31:31.720
<v Speaker 2>of season for them too.

629
00:31:31.779 --> 00:31:34.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, and again, there was like not load bearing most

630
00:31:34.759 --> 00:31:38.019
<v Speaker 1>of the season. They were the may sunk them so badly,

631
00:31:38.920 --> 00:31:44.619
<v Speaker 1>but I don't know. They both, As you said, they're

632
00:31:44.640 --> 00:31:46.150
<v Speaker 1>behind the Mariners, so..

633
00:31:46.069 --> 00:31:47.190
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they are.

634
00:31:47.349 --> 00:31:50.210
<v Speaker 1>That's probably out. At the same time..

635
00:31:50.450 --> 00:31:51.750
<v Speaker 2>Did you see the..

636
00:31:51.650 --> 00:31:54.369
<v Speaker 1>Can anyone really be out of this race? No, not really.

637
00:31:55.150 --> 00:31:56.769
<v Speaker 2>Did you see the Bryce Miller fun fact?

638
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<v Speaker 1>I did not.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the first pitcher to lose... To start games at...

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<v Speaker 2>Consecutive starts that his team lost by 17 runs or

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<v Speaker 2>more since 1890.

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<v Speaker 1>Jesus. Ugh. I mean, what do you say about the Mariners?

643
00:32:16.890 --> 00:32:18.789
<v Speaker 1>I don't know what to say about Detroit at this point.

644
00:32:18.890 --> 00:32:20.990
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they're out of it. I do agree

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00:32:21.029 --> 00:32:25.019
<v Speaker 1>with you that the injuries, I mean, Green and Carpenter

646
00:32:25.140 --> 00:32:32.400
<v Speaker 1>are both out. Yeah. Max Clark has cooled off a

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<v Speaker 1>little bit.

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00:32:33.039 --> 00:32:34.559
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, again, he's been.

649
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<v Speaker 1>Fine. Fine.

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00:32:37.410 --> 00:32:39.369
<v Speaker 2>Given his defense. But you need him to be. They

651
00:32:39.390 --> 00:32:42.109
<v Speaker 2>need another above average hitter, right? It's like Kevin McGonigal.

652
00:32:42.859 --> 00:32:44.819
<v Speaker 2>Cole Keith's slugging is over 400 now, so you've got

653
00:32:44.839 --> 00:32:45.519
<v Speaker 2>that going for you.

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00:32:46.799 --> 00:32:52.710
<v Speaker 1>It's McGonagall. Claiborne Torres is doing... It's 10% better than

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00:32:52.750 --> 00:32:55.009
<v Speaker 1>league average with a sub-400 slug.

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00:32:55.490 --> 00:32:57.970
<v Speaker 2>Troy Mountain's had a couple of okay starts now as

657
00:32:58.029 --> 00:33:00.170
<v Speaker 2>opposed to ace Troy Mountain.

658
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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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00:33:03.210 --> 00:33:05.970
<v Speaker 3>I should probably write something about this. Looking at the Mariners,

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<v Speaker 3>just on their baseball reference page, I feel like there's

661
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<v Speaker 3>a We talk about the Tigers' bullpen being terrible, and

662
00:33:14.309 --> 00:33:17.490
<v Speaker 3>I'm like, that can't be. I know their relievers are fine.

663
00:33:18.109 --> 00:33:19.750
<v Speaker 3>And then you look past the top five.

664
00:33:19.769 --> 00:33:21.450
<v Speaker 1>They've just blown so much. Right.

665
00:33:21.650 --> 00:33:28.539
<v Speaker 3>And, of course, Jansen's surprisingly only 15th worst WPA in baseball.

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00:33:28.619 --> 00:33:31.039
<v Speaker 1>It's interesting. Again, I get a lot of messages about

667
00:33:31.079 --> 00:33:34.059
<v Speaker 1>how bad he is, and I understand that. But also,

668
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<v Speaker 1>we just said, oh, Jordan Hicks isn't doing that bad.

669
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:41.799
<v Speaker 1>And it's like, also, Kenley Jansen is striking out. between

670
00:33:41.799 --> 00:33:44.380
<v Speaker 1>10 and 11 per nine and walking way too many

671
00:33:44.400 --> 00:33:47.019
<v Speaker 1>guys at over five per night, but it allows fewer hits.

672
00:33:47.440 --> 00:33:51.339
<v Speaker 1>But the problem is when he allows hits, they're home runs, right? Like, and,

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00:33:51.500 --> 00:33:53.480
<v Speaker 1>and Jordan Hicks has an option at least to keep

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00:33:53.500 --> 00:33:55.509
<v Speaker 1>the ball on the ground. But it's kind of the

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00:33:55.529 --> 00:33:57.609
<v Speaker 1>same thing with the marriage bullpen of like, Oh, they're

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00:33:57.619 --> 00:33:58.349
<v Speaker 1>top four. It's fine.

677
00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:01.970
<v Speaker 3>Like, you know, Munoz has had a tough year. Um,

678
00:34:02.430 --> 00:34:05.670
<v Speaker 3>but bizarro for air inspire perfectly decent relievers.

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00:34:05.970 --> 00:34:06.150
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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00:34:06.170 --> 00:34:09.610
<v Speaker 3>Um, You know, they're ERAs, like they were in the

681
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<v Speaker 3>twos and they're now in the threes because it's been

682
00:34:11.269 --> 00:34:15.010
<v Speaker 3>a rough stretch. Then you've got Michael Rucker, who does

683
00:34:15.050 --> 00:34:18.349
<v Speaker 3>not belong on a major league roster. He has a 6.30 ERA.

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00:34:20.150 --> 00:34:23.340
<v Speaker 3>And then after that, it is seven guys in a

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00:34:23.380 --> 00:34:26.400
<v Speaker 3>row whose names aren't bold because they're not on the roster.

686
00:34:26.719 --> 00:34:30.000
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And then Sir Anthony Dominguez with a 8.59 ERA.

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00:34:30.039 --> 00:34:32.280
<v Speaker 3>Can't believe I did that.

688
00:34:32.300 --> 00:34:36.500
<v Speaker 2>It's very much the Tobias, maybe it'll work... for us

689
00:34:37.619 --> 00:34:39.260
<v Speaker 2>it's just like this is not going to.

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<v Speaker 3>Like after after the four relievers they're they're they just

691
00:34:44.199 --> 00:34:46.559
<v Speaker 3>the drop off is incredible and then you get to

692
00:34:46.579 --> 00:34:48.679
<v Speaker 3>the bottom and it's four position players so that yari

693
00:34:48.719 --> 00:34:50.730
<v Speaker 3>is above 27 well.

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<v Speaker 1>Well and the important thing to your point patrick so

695
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<v Speaker 1>one of the bolded names is starter six starter six

696
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<v Speaker 1>man rotation guy kate anderson who they just called out

697
00:34:58.829 --> 00:35:02.280
<v Speaker 1>one start yeah right so there's dominguez obviously anderson is

698
00:35:02.320 --> 00:35:04.690
<v Speaker 1>not in the bullpen And then it's Carlos Vargas, who

699
00:35:04.710 --> 00:35:08.170
<v Speaker 1>they just activated. Who they just activated. He has an inning.

700
00:35:08.610 --> 00:35:10.690
<v Speaker 1>But all the guys, the other thing I was going

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00:35:10.710 --> 00:35:12.940
<v Speaker 1>to say, Patrick, all the guys after Rucker and all

702
00:35:13.099 --> 00:35:16.860
<v Speaker 1>the off-roster guys, one is Alex Hoppe, who was traded

703
00:35:17.460 --> 00:35:21.150
<v Speaker 1>to Baltimore for Taylor Ward. The rest are hurt or

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00:35:21.429 --> 00:35:24.050
<v Speaker 1>just off the 40-man line. none of them have more

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00:35:24.090 --> 00:35:28.610
<v Speaker 1>than 31 innings, right? Or like 20. All their appearances

706
00:35:28.670 --> 00:35:29.809
<v Speaker 1>are in the 20s. Right.

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00:35:29.889 --> 00:35:32.489
<v Speaker 2>You know, you want optionality at the back of your bullpen.

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00:35:32.510 --> 00:35:36.050
<v Speaker 2>You also don't want... This is churn. Yeah. And it's

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00:35:36.110 --> 00:35:37.510
<v Speaker 2>churn because they haven't been good.

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00:35:37.590 --> 00:35:37.769
<v Speaker 1>Right.

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00:35:37.789 --> 00:35:38.530
<v Speaker 2>That's the other thing, yeah.

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00:35:38.929 --> 00:35:41.389
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, and usually the idea is you churn until you

713
00:35:41.409 --> 00:35:44.090
<v Speaker 3>find what you need. And the Mariners just didn't find anything.

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00:35:44.110 --> 00:35:47.349
<v Speaker 1>They're missing, and imagine saying this, they are really missing

715
00:35:47.389 --> 00:35:48.469
<v Speaker 1>Cooper Criswell. Right.

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00:35:49.190 --> 00:35:52.320
<v Speaker 3>But they also, they just, like, Ferreira, they went out

717
00:35:52.340 --> 00:35:57.960
<v Speaker 3>and got. Spire and Bizzardo were churn guys. They were

718
00:35:58.179 --> 00:36:02.739
<v Speaker 3>freely available and they turned out to be good. You

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00:36:02.780 --> 00:36:05.980
<v Speaker 3>need two or three of these guys every year. Especially

720
00:36:06.000 --> 00:36:09.440
<v Speaker 3>for the Mariners who have built their bullpen around churning.

721
00:36:09.139 --> 00:36:13.670
<v Speaker 2>Their way into these guys. You can do the churn

722
00:36:13.690 --> 00:36:16.210
<v Speaker 2>and then you get to mid-July. You identify you need

723
00:36:16.250 --> 00:36:18.269
<v Speaker 2>another good reliever. You're in it and you go trade

724
00:36:18.289 --> 00:36:18.849
<v Speaker 2>for that person.

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00:36:19.409 --> 00:36:20.570
<v Speaker 1>Or you trade for Sir Anthony Dominguez.

726
00:36:20.650 --> 00:36:23.989
<v Speaker 2>Or you trade for Sir Anthony Dominguez and hope some

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00:36:24.010 --> 00:36:25.010
<v Speaker 2>magic happens.

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00:36:25.150 --> 00:36:26.269
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, as a salary.

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00:36:26.389 --> 00:36:28.949
<v Speaker 2>Go get Luke Weaver, right? They could have seriously used

730
00:36:29.010 --> 00:36:33.969
<v Speaker 2>Luke Weaver. Because again, you don't... You're going to have

731
00:36:33.989 --> 00:36:35.530
<v Speaker 2>to use the back of your pen. That's just the

732
00:36:35.570 --> 00:36:39.699
<v Speaker 2>reality of it. But you want to... Every additional good

733
00:36:39.739 --> 00:36:43.539
<v Speaker 2>reliever you get means you can pick lower leverage spots

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00:36:43.599 --> 00:36:44.699
<v Speaker 2>for the other guys.

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00:36:45.179 --> 00:36:46.679
<v Speaker 1>For Carlos Vaz.

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<v Speaker 3>I was shocked that the Mariners didn't pick up a

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00:36:48.960 --> 00:36:52.559
<v Speaker 3>Josh Smith, right? You need some middle inning guys, and

738
00:36:52.599 --> 00:36:56.179
<v Speaker 3>they just didn't. And, you know, ordinarily this rotation would

739
00:36:56.199 --> 00:36:57.579
<v Speaker 3>go six, and you would just.

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<v Speaker 2>Be able to..

741
00:36:57.719 --> 00:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>Who's Josh Smith? What? Josh Smith is a utility guy. Oh,

742
00:37:01.019 --> 00:37:04.579
<v Speaker 1>I'm thinking, who am I thinking of? Joe Smith. Joe Smith. Okay, sure.

743
00:37:05.119 --> 00:37:06.969
<v Speaker 1>You know, a guy forgettable enough..

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00:37:06.929 --> 00:37:08.260
<v Speaker 2>Josh Smith was better than a middle innings guy, maybe.

745
00:37:08.300 --> 00:37:13.150
<v Speaker 1>Well, yeah. Yeah, that's true. Anyway... He was famously in

746
00:37:13.170 --> 00:37:16.849
<v Speaker 1>that trade, which I'm sure... I remember panning... Like the,

747
00:37:17.010 --> 00:37:20.030
<v Speaker 1>the trading, who, who'd they send? The Kendall Graveman trade? Yeah.

748
00:37:20.070 --> 00:37:23.150
<v Speaker 1>Kendall Graveman. Was that the ones? Yeah. Oh, it was Houston.

749
00:37:23.190 --> 00:37:25.250
<v Speaker 1>It was just as good as Kendall Graveman. I think

750
00:37:25.269 --> 00:37:27.329
<v Speaker 1>he was significantly better. Yeah.

751
00:37:27.590 --> 00:37:29.849
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I remember, I remember him being in the, uh,

752
00:37:30.550 --> 00:37:32.130
<v Speaker 2>was he in the JJ puts trade too? Or am

753
00:37:32.190 --> 00:37:33.010
<v Speaker 2>I confusing him with you?

754
00:37:33.250 --> 00:37:34.110
<v Speaker 1>I mean, Joe Smith was.

755
00:37:34.489 --> 00:37:35.469
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

756
00:37:38.389 --> 00:37:41.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I don't, I also, what else, what else can

757
00:37:41.059 --> 00:37:47.730
<v Speaker 1>we say about the Mariners? Uh, I mentioned last podcast

758
00:37:47.769 --> 00:37:52.539
<v Speaker 1>they lost 22-0. In the meantime, they had, what, two

759
00:37:52.579 --> 00:37:54.360
<v Speaker 1>walk-offs and then also lost 19-2?

760
00:37:56.380 --> 00:38:02.280
<v Speaker 2>Well, they had the fun... We're doing fun facts. Rosarena

761
00:38:02.320 --> 00:38:04.090
<v Speaker 2>let off a home run with the game with a

762
00:38:04.119 --> 00:38:06.329
<v Speaker 2>home run and then walked it off and then let

763
00:38:06.349 --> 00:38:07.289
<v Speaker 2>off the next game with a home run.

764
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<v Speaker 1>Which is very rare except also Pete Crowe had done

765
00:38:10.929 --> 00:38:12.690
<v Speaker 1>it the week prior. Yeah.

766
00:38:13.230 --> 00:38:15.949
<v Speaker 2>But he let off home run the next game and

767
00:38:15.969 --> 00:38:17.750
<v Speaker 2>they lost like 19 to two or whatever it was.

768
00:38:18.469 --> 00:38:21.190
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. Well, they, as Patrick mentioned, they keep pitching

769
00:38:21.230 --> 00:38:23.670
<v Speaker 1>position players and those guys are not getting outs.

770
00:38:26.670 --> 00:38:29.639
<v Speaker 2>The cup position players getting outs, but the Mariners one,

771
00:38:29.679 --> 00:38:30.139
<v Speaker 2>not so much.

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00:38:34.139 --> 00:38:36.579
<v Speaker 1>All right. Let's go on.

773
00:38:36.980 --> 00:38:39.300
<v Speaker 2>No, like there's nothing to say. It's Cleveland. We'll check

774
00:38:39.340 --> 00:38:40.519
<v Speaker 2>back in on Thursday.

775
00:38:40.639 --> 00:38:43.139
<v Speaker 1>I didn't mention the twins have lost three in a row.

776
00:38:43.159 --> 00:38:46.199
<v Speaker 1>So they are, they are, Back behind the Blue Jays.

777
00:38:47.539 --> 00:38:49.659
<v Speaker 1>They're with the Orioles at two back.

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00:38:49.880 --> 00:38:51.389
<v Speaker 2>It's probably worth it to at least..

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00:38:51.400 --> 00:38:53.199
<v Speaker 1>You want to know who you got?

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00:38:53.800 --> 00:38:56.869
<v Speaker 2>No, to see who they're playing this week. Because we

781
00:38:56.889 --> 00:38:59.869
<v Speaker 2>had an additional topic, I had to bump what to watch.

782
00:38:59.909 --> 00:39:04.969
<v Speaker 2>I was just going to pick every AL wildcard matchup.

783
00:39:05.050 --> 00:39:08.739
<v Speaker 1>The Twins are playing the A's early in the week.

784
00:39:08.820 --> 00:39:16.590
<v Speaker 2>Rangers, White Sox, Guardians, Angels... And Phillies Mariners, the Red

785
00:39:16.630 --> 00:39:18.949
<v Speaker 2>Hot Phillies, which we'll come on to. And Rays Tigers.

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00:39:20.369 --> 00:39:22.530
<v Speaker 1>If you are at all interested, we did have an

787
00:39:22.590 --> 00:39:29.139
<v Speaker 1>article last week from Ginny Searle at BP using Pakoda's projected...

788
00:39:30.139 --> 00:39:33.880
<v Speaker 1>strength of schedule, essentially. So not just what teams have done,

789
00:39:34.079 --> 00:39:36.619
<v Speaker 1>but also what the rest of season projections for all

790
00:39:36.659 --> 00:39:41.039
<v Speaker 1>those players on the rosters. And that includes obviously the

791
00:39:41.360 --> 00:39:47.579
<v Speaker 1>AL wildcard breakdown of those particular teams. So I thought

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00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:48.429
<v Speaker 1>that was an interesting one.

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00:39:48.469 --> 00:39:51.110
<v Speaker 2>Also, just to circle back, I don't know. You're supposed

794
00:39:51.130 --> 00:39:54.289
<v Speaker 2>to fire your GM, like, ideally when you're going to

795
00:39:54.530 --> 00:39:58.110
<v Speaker 2>go on a hot streak. The Astros are going to

796
00:39:58.139 --> 00:40:01.219
<v Speaker 2>the Yankees this week. So we'll see how that goes.

797
00:40:03.059 --> 00:40:05.039
<v Speaker 1>Why don't we take a break and come back with

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00:40:05.059 --> 00:40:32.579
<v Speaker 1>the rest of the show? Welcome back to episode 574

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00:40:32.579 --> 00:40:36.219
<v Speaker 1>of Five and Dive. We're on our third segment, Better

800
00:40:36.300 --> 00:40:39.489
<v Speaker 1>to be Healthy than Good. We've got some injury.

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<v Speaker 2>I tried to pick the ones that have, like, playoff implications, right?

802
00:40:43.289 --> 00:40:43.449
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

803
00:40:43.789 --> 00:40:45.750
<v Speaker 2>Or wildcard race implications or whatever.

804
00:40:46.650 --> 00:40:48.849
<v Speaker 1>Ryan Weather's got a bunch of mentions last podcast.

805
00:40:48.869 --> 00:40:50.369
<v Speaker 2>He sure did.

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00:40:50.730 --> 00:40:53.340
<v Speaker 1>Won't be mentioned for a little bit now. I mean, we...

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<v Speaker 1>We're talking about how he was at basically a career high.

808
00:41:00.570 --> 00:41:02.409
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if it's exactly his career high or not.

809
00:41:02.449 --> 00:41:08.519
<v Speaker 1>He was approaching or past a career high in innings pitched.

810
00:41:10.159 --> 00:41:13.260
<v Speaker 1>The reason for that is he's often been injured. He'd

811
00:41:13.280 --> 00:41:16.710
<v Speaker 1>been healthy. He'd been good. Now he has a left

812
00:41:16.809 --> 00:41:22.429
<v Speaker 1>forearm strain. I would suspect we're not seeing him the

813
00:41:22.469 --> 00:41:22.909
<v Speaker 1>rest of the year.

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00:41:23.619 --> 00:41:25.699
<v Speaker 2>We were getting very close to Paul Blackburn taking a

815
00:41:25.780 --> 00:41:26.780
<v Speaker 2>Yankees playoff start.

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00:41:28.929 --> 00:41:35.170
<v Speaker 1>No one is good. Yeah. Look, I'm sure people feel

817
00:41:35.190 --> 00:41:36.730
<v Speaker 1>this way about the Dodgers, but no one wants the

818
00:41:36.769 --> 00:41:41.889
<v Speaker 1>Yankees to be good either. But it's nice when someone

819
00:41:41.949 --> 00:41:46.070
<v Speaker 1>is definably good instead of just like, these guys are

820
00:41:46.110 --> 00:41:47.170
<v Speaker 1>hot right now.

821
00:41:48.300 --> 00:41:49.860
<v Speaker 2>And by hot, we mean six and four in their

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00:41:49.880 --> 00:41:50.820
<v Speaker 2>last 10.

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00:41:50.820 --> 00:41:55.199
<v Speaker 1>That's right. That's right. Which the Yankees are, by the way.

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00:41:55.820 --> 00:41:58.219
<v Speaker 2>No, they've been, like, they're... I think I said this

825
00:41:58.239 --> 00:42:00.679
<v Speaker 2>when we talked about the Yankees the last time. I

826
00:42:00.719 --> 00:42:03.679
<v Speaker 2>don't think we need the Yankees to be, like, this

827
00:42:03.739 --> 00:42:09.449
<v Speaker 2>huge pantomime villain. But, like, they should want that, right? Like,

828
00:42:09.469 --> 00:42:12.550
<v Speaker 2>that's been part and parcel to their, you know, the

829
00:42:12.590 --> 00:42:19.010
<v Speaker 2>Yankees way or whatever, right? Like, having that, you know,

830
00:42:19.050 --> 00:42:21.550
<v Speaker 2>mythos behind them. And it's just kind of like, okay,

831
00:42:22.219 --> 00:42:25.090
<v Speaker 2>they're a decent American league team.

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00:42:27.250 --> 00:42:29.170
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. I mean, we've been saying this for a

833
00:42:29.190 --> 00:42:31.869
<v Speaker 1>while now. They've decided to run themselves like everybody else.

834
00:42:32.170 --> 00:42:34.610
<v Speaker 1>And so eventually they are like everybody else.

835
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<v Speaker 2>They've made the LCS like in half of the last

836
00:42:37.010 --> 00:42:41.300
<v Speaker 2>10 seasons. Like, it's not like they've been bad, but

837
00:42:41.340 --> 00:42:45.260
<v Speaker 2>like up again, when, when you spent the better part of,

838
00:42:46.059 --> 00:42:48.460
<v Speaker 2>you know, 15 years, you know, really from 96 to

839
00:42:48.460 --> 00:42:53.219
<v Speaker 2>2010 or so being like, If we don't win the

840
00:42:53.239 --> 00:42:55.619
<v Speaker 2>World Series, it's a failure. And then you don't win

841
00:42:55.639 --> 00:42:58.000
<v Speaker 2>the World Series for 17 years.

842
00:42:58.179 --> 00:43:03.150
<v Speaker 1>Like... Yeah. Yeah.

843
00:43:03.170 --> 00:43:04.829
<v Speaker 2>There's a little bit of Manchester United here. They haven't

844
00:43:04.849 --> 00:43:06.619
<v Speaker 2>lost 2-0 to Hull City yet, but..

845
00:43:08.030 --> 00:43:08.949
<v Speaker 1>I should also say, like..

846
00:43:08.929 --> 00:43:11.349
<v Speaker 2>At least we know the trains will run, too.

847
00:43:12.429 --> 00:43:16.750
<v Speaker 1>They are a different team, obviously, when Aaron Judge is out. Sure.

848
00:43:16.809 --> 00:43:18.889
<v Speaker 1>That is a massive difference.

849
00:43:18.929 --> 00:43:24.260
<v Speaker 2>Judge is now... Well, on the wrong side of 30, right?

850
00:43:24.400 --> 00:43:26.960
<v Speaker 2>He's a big guy and he had injury issues earlier

851
00:43:27.000 --> 00:43:31.179
<v Speaker 2>in his career as well. You need to be planning for..

852
00:43:31.280 --> 00:43:33.309
<v Speaker 1>I didn't like that contract. Sure.

853
00:43:33.469 --> 00:43:34.170
<v Speaker 2>No, you didn't.

854
00:43:34.449 --> 00:43:38.690
<v Speaker 1>For a number of reasons. And health was some of

855
00:43:38.789 --> 00:43:42.750
<v Speaker 1>it given his age. Now, look, I would very clearly

856
00:43:42.809 --> 00:43:45.510
<v Speaker 1>say I was wrong. I also just thought there was

857
00:43:45.530 --> 00:43:50.840
<v Speaker 1>going to be age-related decline. And I was... extremely wrong.

858
00:43:50.639 --> 00:43:53.599
<v Speaker 2>About well for a few years well okay.

859
00:43:53.539 --> 00:43:57.920
<v Speaker 1>Sure yeah i think crashing into the fence and messing

860
00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:03.019
<v Speaker 1>up his toe at dodger stadium like that's you know

861
00:44:03.500 --> 00:44:06.659
<v Speaker 1>i i it's really hard to me to fault that

862
00:44:06.809 --> 00:44:08.929
<v Speaker 1>that could have happened to him at 27 maybe bounce

863
00:44:08.969 --> 00:44:12.130
<v Speaker 1>back faster at 27 i don't know but i i

864
00:44:12.170 --> 00:44:15.730
<v Speaker 1>think that's hard to to say but but also like

865
00:44:15.789 --> 00:44:19.420
<v Speaker 1>he just got better as a hitter yeah Over those years. So, like,

866
00:44:19.880 --> 00:44:24.500
<v Speaker 1>I'm fine being wrong about that. But this is... Injury

867
00:44:24.599 --> 00:44:27.920
<v Speaker 1>does start to creep up. And it's just the amount

868
00:44:27.960 --> 00:44:30.940
<v Speaker 1>of time he's missed with... What is it right now?

869
00:44:31.000 --> 00:44:39.610
<v Speaker 1>I don't even remember. What his current injury is. It's

870
00:44:39.650 --> 00:44:44.949
<v Speaker 1>not the toe. It's... It was a stress fracture, right? Yeah,

871
00:44:44.989 --> 00:44:47.590
<v Speaker 1>a stress fracture in his ribs. Yeah. So, like, that was...

872
00:44:48.400 --> 00:44:49.119
<v Speaker 1>the end of May.

873
00:44:51.480 --> 00:44:54.440
<v Speaker 2>It's a long, it's a long time.

874
00:44:55.179 --> 00:44:59.860
<v Speaker 1>And you don't, it's not fair really, but you kind

875
00:44:59.909 --> 00:45:02.849
<v Speaker 1>of look over at Giancarlo Stanton, who by the way

876
00:45:02.909 --> 00:45:08.289
<v Speaker 1>is not coming back. Right. And Stanton was much more

877
00:45:08.530 --> 00:45:10.269
<v Speaker 1>injured over the course of his, you know, even as

878
00:45:10.309 --> 00:45:12.909
<v Speaker 1>a younger player, but you start looking at how these

879
00:45:12.989 --> 00:45:17.079
<v Speaker 1>nagging injuries go on and on and like they get hurt.

880
00:45:18.110 --> 00:45:21.650
<v Speaker 1>coming back from a different injury, right? Like you worry

881
00:45:21.929 --> 00:45:24.869
<v Speaker 1>that could start happening. And again, Stanton is another really

882
00:45:25.110 --> 00:45:31.559
<v Speaker 1>big guy, right? Extremely athletic at one point. But when

883
00:45:31.579 --> 00:45:35.860
<v Speaker 1>you start, we all know, you hit your mid thirties,

884
00:45:37.719 --> 00:45:38.920
<v Speaker 1>you lose something. Yeah.

885
00:45:40.300 --> 00:45:42.320
<v Speaker 2>I just stretched my leg wrong and my calf hurts.

886
00:45:42.409 --> 00:45:43.989
<v Speaker 2>So I can only imagine what it's like for Stanton.

887
00:45:49.840 --> 00:45:56.969
<v Speaker 1>So, we have the Weathers injury. I saw Tyler Glasnow

888
00:45:57.030 --> 00:46:00.309
<v Speaker 1>is coming back. Yes. We have the world's funniest call-up.

889
00:46:02.730 --> 00:46:07.119
<v Speaker 1>What's the world's funniest call-up? The Dodgers' new center fielder. Oh,

890
00:46:07.639 --> 00:46:09.820
<v Speaker 1>why is that so funny? Because they've got so many

891
00:46:09.860 --> 00:46:14.059
<v Speaker 1>other great guys. Yeah, I did have the thought this weekend. So,

892
00:46:14.719 --> 00:46:17.769
<v Speaker 1>in Dodgers' new... So, Glasnow will pitch... Probably the day

893
00:46:17.789 --> 00:46:20.429
<v Speaker 1>you'll hear this. He's coming back Tuesday against the Braves.

894
00:46:20.510 --> 00:46:22.909
<v Speaker 1>Big series. They're just throwing him right into the fire.

895
00:46:24.610 --> 00:46:25.530
<v Speaker 2>For at least four innings.

896
00:46:26.030 --> 00:46:30.019
<v Speaker 1>For at least four innings, yeah. Look, against this Braves lineup,

897
00:46:30.039 --> 00:46:35.400
<v Speaker 1>it could easily be less. So he'll be back. But

898
00:46:35.539 --> 00:46:38.420
<v Speaker 1>Andy Pahis got hit by a pitch. They initially said

899
00:46:38.460 --> 00:46:41.659
<v Speaker 1>it was a contusion before the x-rays. Yeah, man. X-rays

900
00:46:41.679 --> 00:46:44.510
<v Speaker 1>showed a fractured hand. Four to six weeks, you're looking

901
00:46:44.889 --> 00:46:46.670
<v Speaker 1>at maybe back for the playoffs. Yeah.

902
00:46:47.199 --> 00:46:49.260
<v Speaker 2>I'd say probably maybe the last week of the season,

903
00:46:49.280 --> 00:46:50.500
<v Speaker 2>depending on how it goes.

904
00:46:50.820 --> 00:46:55.199
<v Speaker 1>Potentially. So the Dodgers, so chock full of outfields.

905
00:46:55.219 --> 00:46:56.389
<v Speaker 2>None of them are in AAA, to be clear.

906
00:46:56.409 --> 00:46:59.309
<v Speaker 1>Prospects in depth. Tibbs is. Tibbs and Earhart.

907
00:46:59.329 --> 00:47:00.750
<v Speaker 2>I haven't played Tibbs in that.

908
00:47:00.769 --> 00:47:02.730
<v Speaker 1>No, you can't play Tibbs in center. But you can

909
00:47:02.750 --> 00:47:06.190
<v Speaker 1>play Tommy Edmond in center. Sure. And you could potentially,

910
00:47:06.329 --> 00:47:11.880
<v Speaker 1>they don't have any infielders, I guess. But so chock

911
00:47:11.900 --> 00:47:14.460
<v Speaker 1>full of outfield depth. They have Zach Earhart.

912
00:47:14.860 --> 00:47:15.780
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

913
00:47:15.800 --> 00:47:19.590
<v Speaker 1>Who's hitting well. At AAA. But he's not on the 40. And,

914
00:47:19.710 --> 00:47:24.829
<v Speaker 1>you know, for the Dodgers, that's a crisis. Yeah. And obviously, DePaula,

915
00:47:26.690 --> 00:47:29.840
<v Speaker 1>you'd go on down the line. It's not that the

916
00:47:29.860 --> 00:47:32.579
<v Speaker 1>Dodgers are wrong to call up Alec Thomas. But it's funny.

917
00:47:32.960 --> 00:47:34.820
<v Speaker 1>It is very funny. No, it is. So they call

918
00:47:34.860 --> 00:47:35.579
<v Speaker 1>up Alec Thomas.

919
00:47:35.820 --> 00:47:38.380
<v Speaker 3>It's not quite as funny as Estuary Ruiz, but somehow

920
00:47:38.440 --> 00:47:40.559
<v Speaker 3>it's somehow more funny than Estuary Ruiz.

921
00:47:40.719 --> 00:47:41.139
<v Speaker 1>I don't know.

922
00:47:41.619 --> 00:47:43.690
<v Speaker 2>I had forgotten Alec Thomas was on the Dodgers.

923
00:47:44.230 --> 00:47:44.989
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, of course you had.

924
00:47:45.110 --> 00:47:47.090
<v Speaker 2>But of course, yeah. But also, of course, he is.

925
00:47:48.349 --> 00:47:51.750
<v Speaker 1>To his credit, in the two games he's played, he's

926
00:47:51.769 --> 00:47:53.449
<v Speaker 1>had a hit in each and an RBI in each.

927
00:47:54.489 --> 00:47:57.769
<v Speaker 1>He hit fine in the PCL. And he can play

928
00:47:57.789 --> 00:48:00.780
<v Speaker 1>center field. It's just the worst part about this. It

929
00:48:00.800 --> 00:48:02.760
<v Speaker 1>is mostly that he can play center field. Yeah, he

930
00:48:02.780 --> 00:48:03.820
<v Speaker 1>can mostly play center field.

931
00:48:04.139 --> 00:48:05.820
<v Speaker 3>The worst part about this for the Dodgers is that

932
00:48:05.860 --> 00:48:07.480
<v Speaker 3>Pahis was like one of the two guys hitting.

933
00:48:07.980 --> 00:48:14.119
<v Speaker 1>Yes. Absolutely. It was Pahis and Muncy. They're the only

934
00:48:14.159 --> 00:48:17.760
<v Speaker 1>guys hitting right now. Mookie Betts hitting a little bit lately.

935
00:48:18.159 --> 00:48:20.719
<v Speaker 1>Some of that might just be the Pirates. Yeah. Hard

936
00:48:20.739 --> 00:48:25.360
<v Speaker 1>to say. It's hard to say. But yes, those are

937
00:48:25.420 --> 00:48:30.780
<v Speaker 1>the Dodgers injury news. Vlad Guerrero back for the Blue Jays.

938
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:34.679
<v Speaker 1>Does it matter? I mean, like, I don't know. Are

939
00:48:34.699 --> 00:48:35.530
<v Speaker 1>the Blue Jays in this?

940
00:48:35.619 --> 00:48:38.170
<v Speaker 2>They are. The Blue Jays are clearly in it.

941
00:48:38.289 --> 00:48:42.090
<v Speaker 1>They are in it. They're a game and a half back.

942
00:48:43.710 --> 00:48:50.610
<v Speaker 1>Can he hit for power? That's less certain. I also,

943
00:48:50.829 --> 00:48:53.989
<v Speaker 1>you guys, I have to keep looking at the standings

944
00:48:54.050 --> 00:48:58.650
<v Speaker 1>page to reference this. The Blue Jays, Twins, Orioles, Mariners,

945
00:48:58.969 --> 00:49:02.389
<v Speaker 1>and Tigers all just have Ls in their last game,

946
00:49:02.550 --> 00:49:06.530
<v Speaker 1>if not more. It's so many teams just constantly losing.

947
00:49:06.670 --> 00:49:08.190
<v Speaker 2>And none of them are playing each other this week.

948
00:49:08.230 --> 00:49:14.929
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it doesn't help. It's unbelievable. All right, that does

949
00:49:14.969 --> 00:49:17.239
<v Speaker 1>it for... I do want to say like, it is

950
00:49:17.300 --> 00:49:20.880
<v Speaker 1>funny that the Blue Jays, like, step back, not quite

951
00:49:20.940 --> 00:49:23.960
<v Speaker 1>step back deadline, did do them some favors.

952
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:27.389
<v Speaker 3>Like, because they basically just retooled for 2028, or 2027, they're...

953
00:49:27.409 --> 00:49:29.070
<v Speaker 3>Patrick is assuming there's no 2027.

954
00:49:29.070 --> 00:49:38.579
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, that's true. But, like, getting... Getting Jose Soriano is, like, weird.

955
00:49:38.599 --> 00:49:39.980
<v Speaker 1>I don't think they did it on purpose. He had

956
00:49:40.000 --> 00:49:41.679
<v Speaker 1>a rough last start, didn't he? Yeah.

957
00:49:41.980 --> 00:49:43.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it wasn't great, the last one.

958
00:49:44.059 --> 00:49:46.079
<v Speaker 3>But it's funny that that kind of helped them out

959
00:49:46.159 --> 00:49:47.900
<v Speaker 3>in a way that, like, is the anti-Tigers.

960
00:49:47.920 --> 00:49:55.539
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. Just weird. Yeah. It is. I'm trying

961
00:49:55.559 --> 00:49:59.900
<v Speaker 1>to see. Alejandro Kirk is back and doing okay. Has

962
00:49:59.940 --> 00:50:03.119
<v Speaker 1>as many home runs as Vlad Greer. Yeah. I don't know.

963
00:50:03.539 --> 00:50:06.340
<v Speaker 1>Some of the other guys they've retooled with, Charles McAdoo,

964
00:50:06.460 --> 00:50:11.920
<v Speaker 1>not so great. Brett Bateman, okay. I don't know what

965
00:50:11.960 --> 00:50:14.420
<v Speaker 1>to do with this team. They don't have to do anything.

966
00:50:14.800 --> 00:50:16.699
<v Speaker 1>You put them in a box.

967
00:50:16.940 --> 00:50:18.599
<v Speaker 2>Wait until they win three games in a row, and

968
00:50:18.619 --> 00:50:20.760
<v Speaker 2>then we'll talk about them. But until then, we don't

969
00:50:20.780 --> 00:50:21.739
<v Speaker 2>have to.

970
00:50:21.820 --> 00:50:24.860
<v Speaker 1>Fair enough, fair enough. We'll move on to segment four,

971
00:50:24.909 --> 00:50:29.269
<v Speaker 1>Around the Horn. Boy, I don't know where to go.

972
00:50:29.909 --> 00:50:32.369
<v Speaker 1>I'm sorry, everyone. I don't know where to go with

973
00:50:32.429 --> 00:50:38.130
<v Speaker 1>so much. But we're on to Cattell. Can't talk. Cattell Marte.

974
00:50:40.829 --> 00:50:43.010
<v Speaker 1>He's moved from the restricted list to the injured list.

975
00:50:43.050 --> 00:50:45.389
<v Speaker 2>As we talked about, he went to get his knee

976
00:50:45.409 --> 00:50:48.690
<v Speaker 2>checked out. The day we recorded last, they had a

977
00:50:48.730 --> 00:50:50.849
<v Speaker 2>meeting that afternoon in Arizona.

978
00:50:50.929 --> 00:50:54.449
<v Speaker 1>Everybody is extremely disappointed and also totally fine.

979
00:50:54.789 --> 00:50:55.650
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, yeah, yeah.

980
00:50:55.889 --> 00:50:58.449
<v Speaker 1>Everything is very cool and everyone's feelings are extreme.

981
00:50:58.510 --> 00:51:02.110
<v Speaker 2>But also he needs to apologize on television to his teammates.

982
00:51:02.429 --> 00:51:04.289
<v Speaker 1>But also he doesn't have anything to apologize for. Hold on,

983
00:51:04.409 --> 00:51:07.610
<v Speaker 1>hold on. You guys, I have not been able to

984
00:51:07.670 --> 00:51:08.630
<v Speaker 1>keep up with this.

985
00:51:09.030 --> 00:51:10.090
<v Speaker 2>So Tori Lavello.

986
00:51:10.409 --> 00:51:14.219
<v Speaker 1>I know Mike Hazen also came out and talked and

987
00:51:14.260 --> 00:51:16.889
<v Speaker 1>was basically like, I don't know what's going on.

988
00:51:17.159 --> 00:51:18.880
<v Speaker 2>Tori Lavello said we're very disappointed.

989
00:51:19.219 --> 00:51:21.960
<v Speaker 1>Am I wrong that Mike Hazen said like, It's not

990
00:51:22.039 --> 00:51:23.019
<v Speaker 1>clear to me what's happened.

991
00:51:23.199 --> 00:51:24.639
<v Speaker 2>Probably at some point, yeah.

992
00:51:24.699 --> 00:51:30.199
<v Speaker 1>He's the GM! Well, yeah, but he... No one knows

993
00:51:30.510 --> 00:51:33.530
<v Speaker 1>what's in Quetel Marte's knee or how it feels, except

994
00:51:33.550 --> 00:51:35.650
<v Speaker 1>Quetel Marte, and he doesn't feel like telling anyone.

995
00:51:36.550 --> 00:51:38.510
<v Speaker 2>But he had an MRI of some sort.

996
00:51:39.050 --> 00:51:41.449
<v Speaker 1>After they told him to, yes. Yeah, I know.

997
00:51:41.989 --> 00:51:45.670
<v Speaker 2>Anyway, Tori Lavella said he's very disappointed and thinks he

998
00:51:45.710 --> 00:51:48.030
<v Speaker 2>might have to apologize to his teammates before he's back

999
00:51:48.070 --> 00:51:49.090
<v Speaker 2>in the clubhouse, but..

1000
00:51:50.539 --> 00:51:53.699
<v Speaker 1>As I wrote, Ketel Marte failed to call the office

1001
00:51:53.760 --> 00:51:55.469
<v Speaker 1>at 530 in the morning, coughing exactly three times. What

1002
00:51:55.489 --> 00:51:56.489
<v Speaker 1>does he apologize for?

1003
00:51:56.869 --> 00:51:57.289
<v Speaker 2>I don't know.

1004
00:51:57.309 --> 00:51:59.289
<v Speaker 1>Not showing up for the game? He didn't show up

1005
00:51:59.349 --> 00:52:01.429
<v Speaker 1>and he didn't call in sick. Yes. Right.

1006
00:52:01.449 --> 00:52:05.309
<v Speaker 2>You've got to call in sick.

1007
00:52:05.530 --> 00:52:08.130
<v Speaker 3>His knee probably, it sounds like, well, we don't know

1008
00:52:08.190 --> 00:52:11.159
<v Speaker 3>if it's actually hurt enough, but it sounds like his

1009
00:52:11.219 --> 00:52:12.480
<v Speaker 3>knee is hurt enough.

1010
00:52:12.500 --> 00:52:14.340
<v Speaker 2>Well, they could tell your manager that and then they

1011
00:52:14.380 --> 00:52:15.599
<v Speaker 2>get you an MRI. Exactly.

1012
00:52:15.800 --> 00:52:19.219
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. Exactly. You have sick days.

1013
00:52:19.239 --> 00:52:21.880
<v Speaker 2>He's been in the majors for 10 years. You know

1014
00:52:21.900 --> 00:52:22.940
<v Speaker 2>the process at this point.

1015
00:52:23.280 --> 00:52:27.139
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. So, yeah. He just basically forgot to call in.

1016
00:52:27.380 --> 00:52:34.550
<v Speaker 1>Stayed home. And, you know, the Dynamax need him. He's

1017
00:52:34.570 --> 00:52:38.210
<v Speaker 1>getting requests from... He's getting a text from Tori Lavella

1018
00:52:38.250 --> 00:52:40.730
<v Speaker 1>that's like, Hey, we need you to come in. We've

1019
00:52:40.750 --> 00:52:49.300
<v Speaker 1>got a big shift. Sorry. Good luck with that. Good

1020
00:52:49.320 --> 00:52:49.820
<v Speaker 1>luck with that.

1021
00:52:49.880 --> 00:52:53.500
<v Speaker 2>You got a big series this week. Oh, that's tough, man.

1022
00:52:53.820 --> 00:52:58.110
<v Speaker 1>That's that, that was it. Like what?

1023
00:52:58.619 --> 00:52:58.889
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1024
00:52:59.090 --> 00:53:00.590
<v Speaker 1>It was like, good luck with that. Yeah.

1025
00:53:02.389 --> 00:53:09.070
<v Speaker 2>And then like, I, we also had mentioned he got

1026
00:53:09.150 --> 00:53:10.489
<v Speaker 2>photographed at the casino.

1027
00:53:10.550 --> 00:53:11.269
<v Speaker 1>Yes, he did.

1028
00:53:11.309 --> 00:53:14.710
<v Speaker 2>And they, they like, I am Rose Willow or Hazen

1029
00:53:14.730 --> 00:53:16.929
<v Speaker 2>had to give a quote that was basically like, Well,

1030
00:53:16.969 --> 00:53:20.650
<v Speaker 2>like once he leaves the facility, like we don't.

1031
00:53:21.090 --> 00:53:24.409
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He gets his night still. The timeline of this

1032
00:53:24.489 --> 00:53:28.320
<v Speaker 1>is all complicated. But before the casino thing came up, Lavello,

1033
00:53:28.820 --> 00:53:31.800
<v Speaker 1>to go back to what Jeff said, said, I was hurting.

1034
00:53:32.260 --> 00:53:35.219
<v Speaker 1>I was clearly hurting. Once I saw what was unfolding,

1035
00:53:35.360 --> 00:53:38.460
<v Speaker 1>I became extremely frustrated and I felt betrayed. And that's

1036
00:53:38.500 --> 00:53:41.000
<v Speaker 1>a whole different type of pain and frustration. But I'm

1037
00:53:41.039 --> 00:53:44.659
<v Speaker 1>through that. I'm through that. I'm getting through that. Uh-huh.

1038
00:53:45.320 --> 00:53:48.559
<v Speaker 1>The words of someone who is absolutely through that. By

1039
00:53:48.599 --> 00:53:50.960
<v Speaker 1>the way, I'm through that, and I'm getting through that.

1040
00:53:51.199 --> 00:53:53.739
<v Speaker 1>I'm getting through that is the opposite of I'm through that. Well,

1041
00:53:53.760 --> 00:53:54.539
<v Speaker 1>that's what I'm saying.

1042
00:53:54.719 --> 00:53:57.230
<v Speaker 2>This is like something you film in the front seat

1043
00:53:57.269 --> 00:53:57.789
<v Speaker 2>of your car.

1044
00:53:57.730 --> 00:53:58.869
<v Speaker 1>After a breakup. We need the meme of girl who

1045
00:53:58.929 --> 00:54:01.110
<v Speaker 1>is going to be okay, but it's Tori Lavella.

1046
00:54:01.130 --> 00:54:05.809
<v Speaker 2>It's like the front-facing TikTok video in your car after

1047
00:54:05.929 --> 00:54:06.949
<v Speaker 2>going through a breakup, yeah.

1048
00:54:07.230 --> 00:54:14.750
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. But... He also... Lavella said... He's free to do

1049
00:54:14.789 --> 00:54:16.130
<v Speaker 1>whatever he wants.

1050
00:54:16.329 --> 00:54:22.789
<v Speaker 2>Well, look, in fairness. God knows I've. Left the.

1051
00:54:24.869 --> 00:54:25.030
<v Speaker 1>Yes.

1052
00:54:25.110 --> 00:54:29.070
<v Speaker 2>It's across the parking lot. I've got I've hit both

1053
00:54:29.130 --> 00:54:29.590
<v Speaker 2>in one day.

1054
00:54:29.610 --> 00:54:33.579
<v Speaker 1>Salt River for anyone who hasn't been Salt River Fields. Yeah.

1055
00:54:33.739 --> 00:54:36.820
<v Speaker 1>In Arizona. Yeah. For everyone who hasn't been to spring training.

1056
00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:37.820
<v Speaker 1>It's where they're spring training.

1057
00:54:37.840 --> 00:54:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Salt River Field's at Talking Stick, and Talking Stick is

1058
00:54:40.239 --> 00:54:40.639
<v Speaker 2>the casino.

1059
00:54:41.099 --> 00:54:43.719
<v Speaker 1>Exactly. It is Salt River Field's at Talking Stick, and

1060
00:54:43.780 --> 00:54:48.289
<v Speaker 1>that is the casino. They're on the same campus, basically. So, whatever.

1061
00:54:48.530 --> 00:54:51.110
<v Speaker 1>Lovello said he's free to do whatever he wants. That's

1062
00:54:51.150 --> 00:54:52.710
<v Speaker 1>how I look at it. As long as he wakes

1063
00:54:52.769 --> 00:54:55.070
<v Speaker 1>up tomorrow and posts and gets his work done at

1064
00:54:55.110 --> 00:54:57.969
<v Speaker 1>Salt River, which I'm certain he will, that's all that

1065
00:54:58.010 --> 00:54:58.849
<v Speaker 1>matters to me right now.

1066
00:54:58.889 --> 00:54:58.989
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1067
00:54:59.280 --> 00:55:02.610
<v Speaker 1>Which honestly, like, is it a good look? Look, you

1068
00:55:02.650 --> 00:55:05.849
<v Speaker 1>can say, given the Boston stuff. Yeah.

1069
00:55:06.650 --> 00:55:09.690
<v Speaker 2>No, you can say a lot of bad optics. You

1070
00:55:09.710 --> 00:55:13.170
<v Speaker 2>can say a lot of things about Cattell Marte, but

1071
00:55:13.250 --> 00:55:15.769
<v Speaker 2>caring about optics is not one of them.

1072
00:55:15.829 --> 00:55:19.340
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, sure. So is it bad optics? Yes. Yeah. Does

1073
00:55:19.389 --> 00:55:22.420
<v Speaker 1>it actually matter? I don't think so. As long as

1074
00:55:22.460 --> 00:55:24.699
<v Speaker 1>he does this stuff. Yeah.

1075
00:55:25.579 --> 00:55:27.780
<v Speaker 2>Like he's sitting. It's not like he's like, you know, running.

1076
00:55:28.289 --> 00:55:29.269
<v Speaker 2>He's sitting at a table.

1077
00:55:30.090 --> 00:55:30.269
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1078
00:55:30.449 --> 00:55:31.369
<v Speaker 2>Taking weight off his knee.

1079
00:55:32.309 --> 00:55:42.190
<v Speaker 1>Right. So, yeah. Just, it also, but, but there are

1080
00:55:42.230 --> 00:55:45.309
<v Speaker 1>so many, I didn't watch video of it, of Lovello

1081
00:55:45.349 --> 00:55:48.469
<v Speaker 1>saying this, but like on the page, there are ways

1082
00:55:48.550 --> 00:55:51.210
<v Speaker 1>to read. He's free to do whatever he wants. Sure. Yeah.

1083
00:55:51.659 --> 00:55:54.139
<v Speaker 1>It is. There's like the positive, which like, again, the

1084
00:55:54.159 --> 00:55:56.159
<v Speaker 1>way he followed it up, I could see it be like, look,

1085
00:55:56.219 --> 00:55:58.199
<v Speaker 1>he's allowed to do whatever he wants. It's fine. Like

1086
00:55:58.639 --> 00:56:01.579
<v Speaker 1>as long as he posts and does his, his rehab

1087
00:56:01.719 --> 00:56:03.059
<v Speaker 1>and workouts, that's fine.

1088
00:56:03.409 --> 00:56:04.949
<v Speaker 2>Well, he's allowed to do whatever he wants.

1089
00:56:04.989 --> 00:56:08.329
<v Speaker 1>There's also, look, I, I have a three-year-old.

1090
00:56:08.489 --> 00:56:08.809
<v Speaker 2>Okay.

1091
00:56:09.250 --> 00:56:11.769
<v Speaker 1>It's like, sometimes you reach a breaking point and you're like,

1092
00:56:12.670 --> 00:56:16.190
<v Speaker 1>do whatever you want. Yeah. Like I'm done. Yeah. And

1093
00:56:16.369 --> 00:56:18.789
<v Speaker 1>it would be hard to blame Tori Lovello.

1094
00:56:18.389 --> 00:56:21.760
<v Speaker 2>For, For being done. This has only been a week.

1095
00:56:22.079 --> 00:56:26.360
<v Speaker 2>It was last Monday he didn't show up for the game.

1096
00:56:26.400 --> 00:56:31.059
<v Speaker 1>What's the saying? Sometimes there's decades where nothing happens and

1097
00:56:31.099 --> 00:56:34.320
<v Speaker 1>there are weeks where decades happen. I think Tori Lovello

1098
00:56:34.389 --> 00:56:40.989
<v Speaker 1>is having a decade. The Phillies, they're winning.

1099
00:56:41.309 --> 00:56:44.690
<v Speaker 3>You know, you guys do the American League wildcard. And

1100
00:56:45.889 --> 00:56:47.570
<v Speaker 3>we talk about who's won three games in a row.

1101
00:56:48.460 --> 00:56:52.900
<v Speaker 3>The Phillies are the primary version of this. I am

1102
00:56:53.079 --> 00:56:57.179
<v Speaker 3>sick of the Phillies dying and being reborn. Just pick

1103
00:56:57.510 --> 00:56:58.119
<v Speaker 3>a lane.

1104
00:56:58.139 --> 00:56:59.219
<v Speaker 1>Like, either..

1105
00:56:59.110 --> 00:57:04.070
<v Speaker 3>Look, the Phillies are either a real baseball team or not. Like,

1106
00:57:04.869 --> 00:57:06.849
<v Speaker 3>every single one of their players is trash and needs

1107
00:57:06.909 --> 00:57:08.030
<v Speaker 3>to be thrown into the sun.

1108
00:57:08.050 --> 00:57:11.769
<v Speaker 1>The Phillies aren't real and they can hurt you. Or

1109
00:57:11.829 --> 00:57:14.170
<v Speaker 1>they're all off-stars at the same time and it's tragic

1110
00:57:14.210 --> 00:57:18.940
<v Speaker 1>that they didn't all go. Like, I'm just... They're an

1111
00:57:18.980 --> 00:57:21.880
<v Speaker 1>above average baseball team. And they have the best pitcher

1112
00:57:21.920 --> 00:57:24.940
<v Speaker 1>in baseball. They've won nine in a row. Aaron Nola.

1113
00:57:26.260 --> 00:57:32.670
<v Speaker 1>I'm so tired of Aaron Nola. They were down to

1114
00:57:32.690 --> 00:57:36.289
<v Speaker 1>their last, certainly their last out. Maybe their last strike

1115
00:57:36.610 --> 00:57:38.179
<v Speaker 1>with a 4-0 deficit.

1116
00:57:38.199 --> 00:57:40.239
<v Speaker 2>There were a lot of runners on base, but yes.

1117
00:57:40.679 --> 00:57:45.480
<v Speaker 1>Against Riley O'Brien. And then Andrew Painter goes seven shutout.

1118
00:57:45.519 --> 00:57:48.949
<v Speaker 1>I'm like, no. No, you don't get to be one

1119
00:57:48.969 --> 00:57:50.110
<v Speaker 1>of these guys. They have enough.

1120
00:57:52.090 --> 00:57:55.510
<v Speaker 2>And then there's two out of three to the Cubs,

1121
00:57:55.610 --> 00:57:58.230
<v Speaker 2>and we'll all go on with our lives, probably.

1122
00:57:58.929 --> 00:58:01.989
<v Speaker 1>And they are only two ahead of the Padres. They

1123
00:58:02.030 --> 00:58:06.489
<v Speaker 1>are only two ahead of the Padres. So, they've needed

1124
00:58:06.510 --> 00:58:11.929
<v Speaker 1>those wins. We mentioned the Royals. I have nothing else

1125
00:58:11.949 --> 00:58:12.809
<v Speaker 1>to say about the Royals.

1126
00:58:12.929 --> 00:58:14.860
<v Speaker 2>Are they in the Hunt graphic yet, Craig?

1127
00:58:15.030 --> 00:58:18.809
<v Speaker 1>No. No, the Royals are not in the hunt graphic.

1128
00:58:19.010 --> 00:58:21.590
<v Speaker 1>They are seven and a half back. Yeah. When they

1129
00:58:21.630 --> 00:58:22.690
<v Speaker 1>pass the Mariners.

1130
00:58:23.170 --> 00:58:26.250
<v Speaker 2>Fair enough. Which might happen this week.

1131
00:58:26.369 --> 00:58:29.130
<v Speaker 1>I don't know if that will require just they could

1132
00:58:29.150 --> 00:58:31.250
<v Speaker 1>be 500 and they might pass the Mariners at the

1133
00:58:31.289 --> 00:58:38.340
<v Speaker 1>way the rate things are going. Fernando Tatis. We've talked

1134
00:58:38.360 --> 00:58:40.519
<v Speaker 1>about it already, but it just keeps hitting.

1135
00:58:40.559 --> 00:58:41.320
<v Speaker 2>He keeps hitting homers.

1136
00:58:41.360 --> 00:58:45.159
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. He keeps hitting homers. The open stance. Yeah. Stick

1137
00:58:45.179 --> 00:58:49.179
<v Speaker 1>with it. kate anderson got called up we mentioned not

1138
00:58:49.239 --> 00:58:51.420
<v Speaker 1>the greatest start the slider looks good they let him

1139
00:58:51.440 --> 00:58:54.139
<v Speaker 1>they let him face so i saw some takes on

1140
00:58:54.159 --> 00:58:57.489
<v Speaker 1>this they let him face the the lineup for the

1141
00:58:57.510 --> 00:59:02.329
<v Speaker 1>third time through which kind of got i saw some

1142
00:59:03.030 --> 00:59:03.750
<v Speaker 1>what i'm going to call.

1143
00:59:03.610 --> 00:59:05.750
<v Speaker 2>Acerbic posts about this. The top of the sixth inning

1144
00:59:05.789 --> 00:59:06.869
<v Speaker 2>or whatever? Yeah.

1145
00:59:07.929 --> 00:59:11.900
<v Speaker 1>He had looked great. I don't know if I'm becoming

1146
00:59:12.019 --> 00:59:15.300
<v Speaker 1>old or not. I understand the thing. He is a top,

1147
00:59:15.360 --> 00:59:17.739
<v Speaker 1>top prospect. He's supposed to be a good pitcher.

1148
00:59:17.900 --> 00:59:23.380
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but also he's... I.

1149
00:59:22.460 --> 00:59:24.420
<v Speaker 1>Don't know that we need to do the fragile, can't

1150
00:59:24.500 --> 00:59:25.619
<v Speaker 1>face the top of the order.

1151
00:59:25.679 --> 00:59:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but also, you're jumping him. The whole Katie Anderson thing.

1152
00:59:30.679 --> 00:59:32.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, why wasn't he pitching at Tacoma?

1153
00:59:33.300 --> 00:59:35.559
<v Speaker 2>They don't want him to pitch in the PCL. But also, like,

1154
00:59:36.920 --> 00:59:39.260
<v Speaker 2>Lance Frisdowski noted, this happens a lot to pitchers. He's

1155
00:59:39.300 --> 00:59:42.159
<v Speaker 2>throwing a 14 IVB fastball now because he's got to

1156
00:59:42.179 --> 00:59:43.889
<v Speaker 2>throw the Major League ball without any time to adjust

1157
00:59:43.929 --> 00:59:45.650
<v Speaker 2>to it. And it's a terrible pitch.

1158
00:59:45.670 --> 00:59:48.130
<v Speaker 1>That's a reason to pitch in AAA, isn't it?

1159
00:59:48.570 --> 00:59:50.550
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it's Tacoma. Like, yeah, they got to go

1160
00:59:50.590 --> 00:59:54.929
<v Speaker 2>to Vegas and Salt Lake City and Reno. But, like,

1161
00:59:55.349 --> 00:59:59.550
<v Speaker 2>that part of the home park isn't terrible to pitch in. Like,

1162
00:59:59.570 --> 01:00:03.659
<v Speaker 2>you can pick your spots here, but... Yeah, and, like,

1163
01:00:03.679 --> 01:00:06.079
<v Speaker 2>him just dominating double-A doesn't tell you anything. He's, like,

1164
01:00:06.099 --> 01:00:13.260
<v Speaker 2>a good command... Pitching, like, a good, polished, advanced command

1165
01:00:14.000 --> 01:00:17.659
<v Speaker 2>pitching prospect, but, like, there's no 70 pitch here. Like,

1166
01:00:17.679 --> 01:00:22.380
<v Speaker 2>there's nothing, like... Like, he can come up and, you know,

1167
01:00:22.400 --> 01:00:24.079
<v Speaker 2>if he has to challenge guys with that fastball until

1168
01:00:24.119 --> 01:00:27.139
<v Speaker 2>he adjusts to the Major League Baseball, like, it's gonna

1169
01:00:27.159 --> 01:00:27.539
<v Speaker 2>get hit.

1170
01:00:28.719 --> 01:00:28.840
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1171
01:00:29.940 --> 01:00:33.579
<v Speaker 2>The slider looks very good early. The other issue is, like,

1172
01:00:33.619 --> 01:00:36.699
<v Speaker 2>why is he up now? Like, after you've kind of

1173
01:00:36.739 --> 01:00:37.980
<v Speaker 2>slid out of the wildcard race?

1174
01:00:38.500 --> 01:00:38.719
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1175
01:00:39.519 --> 01:00:40.460
<v Speaker 2>Like, I know it's after the PPI.

1176
01:00:40.480 --> 01:00:43.239
<v Speaker 1>Well, and it's also, Patrick mentioned their bullpen. It's impacting

1177
01:00:43.280 --> 01:00:46.389
<v Speaker 1>their bullpen. Michael Rucker is playing, is pitching a lot

1178
01:00:46.449 --> 01:00:49.730
<v Speaker 1>because they've gone with a six-man rotation.

1179
01:00:49.949 --> 01:00:51.989
<v Speaker 2>Right. It kind of feels like they're already just, like,

1180
01:00:52.090 --> 01:00:55.570
<v Speaker 2>prepping stuff for next year, which, I mean, fair enough, they're, like,

1181
01:00:55.590 --> 01:00:59.579
<v Speaker 2>seven games under. 500, but also... They can kind of still, like,

1182
01:00:59.599 --> 01:01:00.880
<v Speaker 2>they need the three-game winning streak.

1183
01:01:00.900 --> 01:01:03.119
<v Speaker 1>But they have yet to do anything about their manager. Yeah.

1184
01:01:03.699 --> 01:01:05.239
<v Speaker 3>I got to say, one thing about coming back from

1185
01:01:05.260 --> 01:01:08.239
<v Speaker 3>this vacation, I did not expect Dan Wilson to still

1186
01:01:08.260 --> 01:01:09.789
<v Speaker 3>be in the same place, given where they are.

1187
01:01:09.809 --> 01:01:15.570
<v Speaker 2>Do they have another former Mariners backup catcher that they

1188
01:01:15.590 --> 01:01:19.570
<v Speaker 2>can call after they fire their manager in August, Patrick?

1189
01:01:20.690 --> 01:01:24.170
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I mean, they've got, you know, Miguel Olivos around somewhere. Oh, yeah.

1190
01:01:24.210 --> 01:01:24.590
<v Speaker 2>Fair enough.

1191
01:01:24.630 --> 01:01:33.940
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Yeah. joe oliver like yeah i i still think

1192
01:01:34.699 --> 01:01:36.639
<v Speaker 1>yeah i don't know i i still think it was

1193
01:01:36.679 --> 01:01:38.760
<v Speaker 1>fine to let him go especially given they have a

1194
01:01:38.840 --> 01:01:42.389
<v Speaker 1>short bullpen because they're doing this right like i i

1195
01:01:42.429 --> 01:01:44.590
<v Speaker 1>don't know i i just don't have a big problem

1196
01:01:44.730 --> 01:01:48.550
<v Speaker 1>with saying like let's see what you got that's.

1197
01:01:48.510 --> 01:01:51.269
<v Speaker 2>Probably their best play right now i just kind of

1198
01:01:51.309 --> 01:01:53.250
<v Speaker 2>feel like they're doing the team that's already out of

1199
01:01:53.309 --> 01:01:56.760
<v Speaker 2>it let's see if this guy can Get through this stuff.

1200
01:01:56.780 --> 01:01:58.659
<v Speaker 2>Let him learn how to get through the extra inning

1201
01:01:58.699 --> 01:02:00.360
<v Speaker 2>in the top. But you're also trying to win the

1202
01:02:00.400 --> 01:02:01.579
<v Speaker 2>games because you're only three games out.

1203
01:02:02.099 --> 01:02:05.489
<v Speaker 1>It just escalated. So he went five and two-thirds and

1204
01:02:05.510 --> 01:02:08.070
<v Speaker 1>gave up three runs. He gave up... Top of the sixth,

1205
01:02:08.150 --> 01:02:11.050
<v Speaker 1>he gave up a double to Pete Graham Armstrong. And

1206
01:02:11.090 --> 01:02:17.210
<v Speaker 1>then Seiya Suzuki grounded into a double play. Which... I

1207
01:02:17.250 --> 01:02:18.550
<v Speaker 1>don't know how you ground into a double play.

1208
01:02:18.570 --> 01:02:19.630
<v Speaker 2>He can be an adventure on the bases.

1209
01:02:19.690 --> 01:02:23.929
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, right. Yeah, it was..

1210
01:02:24.489 --> 01:02:25.190
<v Speaker 2>I guess he.

1211
01:02:25.150 --> 01:02:27.030
<v Speaker 1>Went for third after the, it was a ground ball

1212
01:02:27.050 --> 01:02:27.849
<v Speaker 1>to third. Yeah.

1213
01:02:27.869 --> 01:02:28.349
<v Speaker 2>And it went to him.

1214
01:02:28.769 --> 01:02:30.650
<v Speaker 1>He, he threw to first, then he went to third

1215
01:02:30.670 --> 01:02:32.690
<v Speaker 1>and they got the out. Uh, and then it was

1216
01:02:32.710 --> 01:02:37.400
<v Speaker 1>just Homer, Homer, double, double, you.

1217
01:02:37.320 --> 01:02:40.079
<v Speaker 2>Know, a certain point that maybe happens a little too

1218
01:02:40.119 --> 01:02:42.440
<v Speaker 2>quickly for you to get somebody up. Right. Probably somebody

1219
01:02:42.460 --> 01:02:42.920
<v Speaker 2>should run out.

1220
01:02:42.880 --> 01:02:45.159
<v Speaker 1>Of the double. Yeah. Well, but he was through the

1221
01:02:45.199 --> 01:02:45.679
<v Speaker 1>two thirds.

1222
01:02:45.739 --> 01:02:45.940
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1223
01:02:45.960 --> 01:02:46.199
<v Speaker 1>I know.

1224
01:02:46.300 --> 01:02:46.760
<v Speaker 2>I know.

1225
01:02:46.840 --> 01:02:49.360
<v Speaker 1>You know, I, yeah, I don't know. I just, I

1226
01:02:49.400 --> 01:02:55.050
<v Speaker 1>just don't fault that too much. Uh, Then we have

1227
01:02:55.110 --> 01:02:58.570
<v Speaker 1>our last topic that I, I, I think I do

1228
01:02:58.630 --> 01:03:00.449
<v Speaker 1>know what to do with, but in, in so many ways,

1229
01:03:00.510 --> 01:03:02.590
<v Speaker 1>I don't Tommy fam.

1230
01:03:02.889 --> 01:03:03.130
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1231
01:03:03.230 --> 01:03:07.460
<v Speaker 1>Who is currently in the minors for the Phillies. Sure.

1232
01:03:07.719 --> 01:03:12.780
<v Speaker 1>I believe is getting into it with Dane Myers. Yes, yes,

1233
01:03:12.820 --> 01:03:16.760
<v Speaker 1>he is. Who is, who is an outfielder with the reds. Yeah. Uh,

1234
01:03:16.880 --> 01:03:21.469
<v Speaker 1>last scene, absolutely botching a ball against the Cardinals who

1235
01:03:21.489 --> 01:03:25.489
<v Speaker 1>made their own incredible comeback. Yeah. And then, you know,

1236
01:03:25.530 --> 01:03:29.409
<v Speaker 1>Riley O'Brien returned the favor versus the Phillies. But they

1237
01:03:29.530 --> 01:03:34.389
<v Speaker 1>had a massive ninth inning comeback to win a game,

1238
01:03:35.630 --> 01:03:40.159
<v Speaker 1>keyed mostly by Myers, ranging over into left center field.

1239
01:03:40.400 --> 01:03:41.920
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he dropped the third out, basically.

1240
01:03:42.480 --> 01:03:46.039
<v Speaker 1>Right. He hit his glove. He just, I mean, it

1241
01:03:46.059 --> 01:03:46.800
<v Speaker 1>was just a fuck up.

1242
01:03:47.329 --> 01:03:50.630
<v Speaker 2>I don't want to say a miscommunication. Maybe here's some

1243
01:03:50.690 --> 01:03:52.349
<v Speaker 2>footsteps or something.

1244
01:03:52.750 --> 01:03:55.409
<v Speaker 1>Maybe, but it was his ball. This is where I'm

1245
01:03:55.429 --> 01:03:57.550
<v Speaker 1>going to disagree with Tommy Pham. That, to me, was

1246
01:03:57.670 --> 01:03:59.599
<v Speaker 1>clearly his... He's a good..

1247
01:03:59.789 --> 01:04:02.130
<v Speaker 2>Well, I guess the numbers disagree.

1248
01:04:02.269 --> 01:04:06.659
<v Speaker 1>My understanding is he's a good center fielder. Generally speaking.

1249
01:04:08.780 --> 01:04:13.239
<v Speaker 1>Tommy Pham basically said... Looked at the highlight. It's just

1250
01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:14.619
<v Speaker 1>so uncalled for.

1251
01:04:14.639 --> 01:04:19.090
<v Speaker 2>What are you... like worry about your own shit. Kind of,

1252
01:04:19.219 --> 01:04:19.900
<v Speaker 2>I think like.

1253
01:04:20.340 --> 01:04:23.159
<v Speaker 1>Well, that's kind of what Dane Myers said, but Tommy

1254
01:04:23.199 --> 01:04:26.539
<v Speaker 1>fam just quote, post the video. And it's basically like

1255
01:04:26.679 --> 01:04:29.489
<v Speaker 1>this guy took the left fielder's ball. Cause he's trying

1256
01:04:29.530 --> 01:04:34.389
<v Speaker 1>to juice his range stats and, and screwed it up.

1257
01:04:34.590 --> 01:04:36.789
<v Speaker 1>And let me say this. He was there in time.

1258
01:04:37.030 --> 01:04:41.280
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't like he, I don't know. I guess someone

1259
01:04:41.320 --> 01:04:43.320
<v Speaker 1>else had said this is the left fielder's ball, but

1260
01:04:43.500 --> 01:04:44.480
<v Speaker 1>I don't know that it is.

1261
01:04:44.860 --> 01:04:46.699
<v Speaker 2>If the center fielder can get to a ball, usually

1262
01:04:46.719 --> 01:04:47.400
<v Speaker 2>it's the center fielder's ball.

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01:04:47.420 --> 01:04:48.300
<v Speaker 1>It's the center fielder's ball.

1264
01:04:48.500 --> 01:04:49.280
<v Speaker 2>And he was there.

1265
01:04:49.989 --> 01:04:50.590
<v Speaker 1>He was there.

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01:04:50.610 --> 01:04:54.289
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't... Right. This is like, you know, like Andy

1267
01:04:54.329 --> 01:04:56.769
<v Speaker 2>Pa has trucking Enrique Hernandez. If he can get to

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01:04:56.789 --> 01:04:59.090
<v Speaker 2>the ball, it's his ball. Yeah.

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01:04:59.329 --> 01:05:06.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. I just... Yeah, I don't know. DRP has Dane

1270
01:05:06.699 --> 01:05:10.619
<v Speaker 1>Myers is quite bad. Maybe this is just Tommy Pham

1271
01:05:11.599 --> 01:05:14.800
<v Speaker 1>being bitter about center fielders. It's been a while. It's

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01:05:14.860 --> 01:05:17.320
<v Speaker 1>just Tommy Pham.

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01:05:17.639 --> 01:05:19.949
<v Speaker 3>Tommy Pham hasn't played. He played a little bit of center,

1274
01:05:19.969 --> 01:05:22.389
<v Speaker 3>but it's been a while. And he's mostly a left fielder.

1275
01:05:23.130 --> 01:05:27.389
<v Speaker 1>And maybe he's just mad about dozens of center fielders

1276
01:05:27.429 --> 01:05:29.130
<v Speaker 1>taking away opportunities.

1277
01:05:29.150 --> 01:05:31.389
<v Speaker 2>Tommy Pham needed to be mad about something this week.

1278
01:05:31.449 --> 01:05:32.190
<v Speaker 2>And this is what he chose.

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01:05:32.210 --> 01:05:35.269
<v Speaker 1>All right. But they've been going for like three days.

1280
01:05:36.170 --> 01:05:40.809
<v Speaker 1>I mean, slowly, right? It's like three or four interactions

1281
01:05:40.849 --> 01:05:42.530
<v Speaker 1>back and forth, but like multiple days.

1282
01:05:42.570 --> 01:05:44.590
<v Speaker 2>I mean, I sent you the, or you sent me

1283
01:05:44.650 --> 01:05:47.679
<v Speaker 2>the collage of their interactions. It's like a lot of

1284
01:05:48.070 --> 01:05:48.639
<v Speaker 2>back and forth.

1285
01:05:49.000 --> 01:05:49.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1286
01:05:49.320 --> 01:05:51.500
<v Speaker 2>There are two professional athletes who should be doing other things.

1287
01:05:52.300 --> 01:05:55.820
<v Speaker 1>It's, I mean, Fan is saying he's being like a

1288
01:05:55.880 --> 01:06:00.760
<v Speaker 1>ball hog, basically, to juice his stats, which seemingly not working.

1289
01:06:01.260 --> 01:06:04.920
<v Speaker 1>So I don't think that's, anything. And Dane Myers is

1290
01:06:04.940 --> 01:06:09.980
<v Speaker 1>kind of just like, bro, like what, why are you

1291
01:06:10.039 --> 01:06:13.159
<v Speaker 1>coming at me over this basically? And then Tommy fam

1292
01:06:13.199 --> 01:06:18.099
<v Speaker 1>was like, everyone I know who knows you suck and

1293
01:06:18.760 --> 01:06:20.719
<v Speaker 1>are like bad in the clubhouse.

1294
01:06:20.949 --> 01:06:22.239
<v Speaker 2>Also, I can't give you any names.

1295
01:06:22.699 --> 01:06:25.110
<v Speaker 1>Yeah. Well, yeah. Dane Myers was like, okay, then like

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01:06:25.690 --> 01:06:26.489
<v Speaker 1>post the text.

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01:06:26.730 --> 01:06:27.070
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

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01:06:27.090 --> 01:06:28.909
<v Speaker 1>Cause Tommy fam said like, I got a text. I

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01:06:28.929 --> 01:06:31.650
<v Speaker 1>could embarrass you. And he's like, post it. And then

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01:06:31.690 --> 01:06:34.559
<v Speaker 1>he's like, nah, nah, man. I'm not going to do

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01:06:34.599 --> 01:06:36.079
<v Speaker 1>that to you. And it's like, you're the one who

1302
01:06:36.099 --> 01:06:42.780
<v Speaker 1>brought it up. Yeah. I, I like, look, I'm sure

1303
01:06:42.820 --> 01:06:45.679
<v Speaker 1>Tommy fam knows a lot of people. Whatever.

1304
01:06:45.699 --> 01:06:47.099
<v Speaker 2>Who may not like Dane Myers.

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01:06:47.940 --> 01:06:51.019
<v Speaker 1>Sure. But I also think if you say like, I've

1306
01:06:51.059 --> 01:06:53.519
<v Speaker 1>got a text that'll embarrass you. And the guy says,

1307
01:06:53.559 --> 01:06:55.199
<v Speaker 1>go ahead and post it. And then you don't like

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01:06:55.219 --> 01:06:59.139
<v Speaker 1>you've lost. Sure. Yeah. Yeah. You've, you've lost this battle.

1309
01:07:01.039 --> 01:07:02.079
<v Speaker 2>Also, why is it a battle?

1310
01:07:02.750 --> 01:07:06.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well, absolutely. Which I think Dane Myers is also wondering,

1311
01:07:06.900 --> 01:07:10.440
<v Speaker 1>by the way. Now, look, I'm not going to say...

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01:07:10.420 --> 01:07:13.360
<v Speaker 1>Tommy Pham, if we're doing boxing scoring, Tommy Pham won

1313
01:07:13.380 --> 01:07:17.619
<v Speaker 1>some rounds here. Dane Myers was like... Basically, he said

1314
01:07:17.639 --> 01:07:20.460
<v Speaker 1>something about Tommy Pham's excuses about not being able to see,

1315
01:07:20.820 --> 01:07:23.289
<v Speaker 1>like whatever. And Tommy Pham was like, yeah, I still

1316
01:07:23.309 --> 01:07:27.929
<v Speaker 1>hit better than you. Which, you know, that's a clean blow.

1317
01:07:28.849 --> 01:07:29.670
<v Speaker 1>That's a clean blow.

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01:07:31.610 --> 01:07:35.980
<v Speaker 2>I just like... Yeah, I mean, it's just like, yeah,

1319
01:07:36.030 --> 01:07:38.429
<v Speaker 2>this is just going to happen repeatedly.

1320
01:07:40.170 --> 01:07:41.949
<v Speaker 1>Tommy family needs to go away.

1321
01:07:41.969 --> 01:07:42.789
<v Speaker 2>He's not going to, Craig.

1322
01:07:43.449 --> 01:07:45.489
<v Speaker 1>No, he's going to have a broadcast.

1323
01:07:45.510 --> 01:07:51.110
<v Speaker 2>He's in Lehigh Valley right now, or thereabouts. And someone's

1324
01:07:51.130 --> 01:07:52.969
<v Speaker 2>been to Lehigh Valley, you got time on your hands.

1325
01:07:53.929 --> 01:07:54.730
<v Speaker 2>Not a lot else to do.

1326
01:07:55.730 --> 01:07:58.909
<v Speaker 1>And also, by the way, Dane Myers is calling DRS

1327
01:07:58.969 --> 01:08:03.159
<v Speaker 1>a busted metric. Some of the metrics are just taking blows. Yeah, well...

1328
01:08:06.670 --> 01:08:08.769
<v Speaker 1>And that brings us to our game. All right.

1329
01:08:10.269 --> 01:08:14.449
<v Speaker 3>So this is an average game. And this is because,

1330
01:08:14.590 --> 01:08:17.329
<v Speaker 3>you know, I just got back from a vacation. And

1331
01:08:17.350 --> 01:08:19.010
<v Speaker 3>so I just wanted to do something nice and simple.

1332
01:08:20.310 --> 01:08:23.010
<v Speaker 1>All you have to do. Have we done this? No.

1333
01:08:23.270 --> 01:08:26.560
<v Speaker 1>I mean, we've done variants of this before. I'm going

1334
01:08:26.680 --> 01:08:27.399
<v Speaker 1>to name some players.

1335
01:08:27.460 --> 01:08:29.140
<v Speaker 3>And you just have to tell me whether they're above

1336
01:08:29.220 --> 01:08:29.659
<v Speaker 3>average or not.

1337
01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:30.819
<v Speaker 2>By?

1338
01:08:31.600 --> 01:08:34.500
<v Speaker 1>By WRC plus or by ERA minus. Okay.

1339
01:08:36.289 --> 01:08:38.710
<v Speaker 3>Or actually not even ERA minus, just ERA. Like I

1340
01:08:38.729 --> 01:08:40.970
<v Speaker 3>didn't even know Park Adjustment for the ERA.

1341
01:08:41.010 --> 01:08:44.420
<v Speaker 1>Just tell me. Burn machine of the brand, Patrick. Thank you.

1342
01:08:47.520 --> 01:08:50.119
<v Speaker 1>Do you want me to have you guys calculate ERA

1343
01:08:50.140 --> 01:08:52.420
<v Speaker 1>minus and be like, oh, I don't know about the

1344
01:08:52.619 --> 01:08:53.220
<v Speaker 1>batted ball.

1345
01:08:53.479 --> 01:08:55.850
<v Speaker 2>Is Sean Newcomb one of them? I know that answer.

1346
01:08:55.890 --> 01:09:00.189
<v Speaker 1>Yes. Alright, so we'll just take turns going first and

1347
01:09:00.210 --> 01:09:02.909
<v Speaker 1>we'll go through. There are 14 of them total. So

1348
01:09:02.930 --> 01:09:06.569
<v Speaker 1>Josh Bell, is he an above average hitter this year? Craig? Yes.

1349
01:09:07.149 --> 01:09:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, he's been good recently enough to get there.

1350
01:09:10.020 --> 01:09:12.199
<v Speaker 1>Jeff, Stephen Kwan, is he an above average hitter this year?

1351
01:09:15.180 --> 01:09:16.460
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he's gotten there yet, no.

1352
01:09:17.239 --> 01:09:20.430
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I'm with Jeff. I think he's just shy. Okay.

1353
01:09:21.130 --> 01:09:23.779
<v Speaker 1>Willie Adamas. I looked at that lineup today. Yeah, you

1354
01:09:23.800 --> 01:09:24.140
<v Speaker 1>sure did.

1355
01:09:24.439 --> 01:09:24.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah.

1356
01:09:25.020 --> 01:09:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Willie Adamas is the end up of our chair. Oh, yeah.

1357
01:09:28.979 --> 01:09:31.420
<v Speaker 1>Imagine thinking about Willie. I have not. Yeah. I have

1358
01:09:31.479 --> 01:09:34.020
<v Speaker 1>not looked at that, that page recently. I'm going to

1359
01:09:34.039 --> 01:09:34.699
<v Speaker 1>say no.

1360
01:09:35.090 --> 01:09:36.350
<v Speaker 2>This is OPS plus, right?

1361
01:09:36.869 --> 01:09:38.270
<v Speaker 1>This is WRC plus.

1362
01:09:38.329 --> 01:09:38.529
<v Speaker 2>Oh, yeah.

1363
01:09:38.569 --> 01:09:39.130
<v Speaker 1>Right.

1364
01:09:39.170 --> 01:09:42.149
<v Speaker 2>Like he doesn't, he doesn't want, but also that parks

1365
01:09:42.210 --> 01:09:44.449
<v Speaker 2>tough to hit. And I'll say, yes, just to differentiate.

1366
01:09:44.789 --> 01:09:50.840
<v Speaker 1>Okay. I don't, I don't want to do it. But, uh, yes. Okay.

1367
01:09:50.920 --> 01:09:54.239
<v Speaker 1>Ozzy Albies? Yes. Is he an above-average heavy this year?

1368
01:09:54.399 --> 01:09:55.960
<v Speaker 1>Jeff seemed confident. I'll say yes.

1369
01:09:56.319 --> 01:09:57.539
<v Speaker 2>I think I looked at it recently. It was like 110.

1370
01:09:57.539 --> 01:09:58.779
<v Speaker 2>I don't think he had gone much.

1371
01:09:58.819 --> 01:10:04.359
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I thought he had been solid this year. Josh Naylor. Craig? No.

1372
01:10:06.100 --> 01:10:08.600
<v Speaker 2>I'm now suspicious that Josh Naylor is in here because

1373
01:10:08.619 --> 01:10:11.649
<v Speaker 2>I would have guessed it's like 85. But I'm going

1374
01:10:11.659 --> 01:10:12.850
<v Speaker 2>to stick to my guns and say no.

1375
01:10:13.430 --> 01:10:21.020
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Jeff, Colt Keith. Yes. Ooh. He's right on the line,

1376
01:10:21.239 --> 01:10:24.159
<v Speaker 1>I think. I mean, he will be every single year.

1377
01:10:24.060 --> 01:10:25.359
<v Speaker 2>Of his career.

1378
01:10:25.640 --> 01:10:28.500
<v Speaker 1>I think he's over. Yeah, I'm going to have to

1379
01:10:28.539 --> 01:10:30.439
<v Speaker 1>say yes. I want to differentiate, but I think yes.

1380
01:10:30.880 --> 01:10:37.520
<v Speaker 1>And lastly, Craig, Carter Jensen. Oh, I have to go first? Yeah. Oh, man.

1381
01:10:38.859 --> 01:10:40.680
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say yes. I mean, Jeff can just

1382
01:10:40.699 --> 01:10:42.600
<v Speaker 1>say yes and have the one differentiation.

1383
01:10:42.619 --> 01:10:49.090
<v Speaker 2>I'm pretty sure he is, but He was close. I

1384
01:10:49.189 --> 01:10:50.829
<v Speaker 2>haven't looked at it super recently.

1385
01:10:51.029 --> 01:10:52.630
<v Speaker 1>And he started hot. And he's been.

1386
01:10:52.869 --> 01:10:55.350
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he might have. I'm going to say, I think.

1387
01:10:55.609 --> 01:10:59.260
<v Speaker 1>Much like the Royals. The Royals are hot right now, though.

1388
01:10:59.279 --> 01:11:01.920
<v Speaker 2>They are. I think he's under, so I'm going to

1389
01:11:01.939 --> 01:11:02.220
<v Speaker 2>say no.

1390
01:11:03.000 --> 01:11:06.380
<v Speaker 1>Okay. All right. Moving on to the pitchers. Oh, right.

1391
01:11:06.399 --> 01:11:07.119
<v Speaker 1>There's a whole. Okay.

1392
01:11:07.180 --> 01:11:09.560
<v Speaker 3>There's a whole bunch of pitchers. Tell me if the

1393
01:11:09.680 --> 01:11:11.659
<v Speaker 3>current league average ERA is 4.17.

1394
01:11:11.659 --> 01:11:11.779
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

1395
01:11:14.229 --> 01:11:17.430
<v Speaker 3>Uh so bryce elder jeff is he above is he

1396
01:11:17.470 --> 01:11:19.930
<v Speaker 3>have a better or worse than average.

1397
01:11:19.609 --> 01:11:22.270
<v Speaker 2>Like this is gonna like he had that bad start

1398
01:11:22.289 --> 01:11:24.210
<v Speaker 2>against a match which i think got him slightly over

1399
01:11:24.350 --> 01:11:26.859
<v Speaker 2>four i don't know what he's done since then but

1400
01:11:26.880 --> 01:11:29.039
<v Speaker 2>i'm gonna assume he's bryce eldering it up still so

1401
01:11:29.060 --> 01:11:31.180
<v Speaker 2>i'm gonna say how do you want me to free

1402
01:11:31.199 --> 01:11:33.960
<v Speaker 2>i'm gonna say yes he's above average better or better

1403
01:11:34.039 --> 01:11:35.399
<v Speaker 2>yes better.

1404
01:11:35.279 --> 01:11:39.220
<v Speaker 1>Right i'm gonna say worse okay uh craig tanner bybee

1405
01:11:41.130 --> 01:11:42.289
<v Speaker 1>We had to do the Tanner Bybee.

1406
01:11:42.310 --> 01:11:44.390
<v Speaker 2>Tanner Bybee's clay. That's close.

1407
01:11:44.409 --> 01:11:45.350
<v Speaker 1>Oh, man.

1408
01:11:45.409 --> 01:11:46.569
<v Speaker 2>That's going to be real close.

1409
01:11:48.939 --> 01:11:55.939
<v Speaker 1>I'm going to say better. Okay. Better. Okay. Paul Skeens. Jeff.

1410
01:11:58.100 --> 01:11:59.840
<v Speaker 1>What a dick move.

1411
01:12:01.180 --> 01:12:01.460
<v Speaker 2>Better.

1412
01:12:02.239 --> 01:12:05.560
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think he's below four, actually. I think he's

1413
01:12:05.600 --> 01:12:07.850
<v Speaker 1>like three, nine, something. But I'm going to say better.

1414
01:12:08.699 --> 01:12:18.970
<v Speaker 1>All right. Craig Will Warren. Worse. Worse. Okay. Noah Cameron, Jeffrey? Oh,

1415
01:12:19.810 --> 01:12:20.630
<v Speaker 1>hurting Jeffrey.

1416
01:12:20.670 --> 01:12:25.329
<v Speaker 2>He's real close. I don't have a strong feeling here,

1417
01:12:25.390 --> 01:12:28.569
<v Speaker 2>so I have to support my guy and say better.

1418
01:12:28.590 --> 01:12:29.550
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

1419
01:12:30.689 --> 01:12:32.460
<v Speaker 2>I know he just had through like six shutouts. I

1420
01:12:32.500 --> 01:12:34.340
<v Speaker 2>don't know if that was actually enough to get him there.

1421
01:12:34.720 --> 01:12:41.460
<v Speaker 1>I think worse. Okay. Craig Jansen, Junk. Fucking hell. He's like...

1422
01:12:42.949 --> 01:12:48.289
<v Speaker 1>He just pitched yesterday, too. I think he was at, like, 4.19.

1423
01:12:49.369 --> 01:12:52.739
<v Speaker 1>But I don't know if that's going in or after. Shit,

1424
01:12:52.779 --> 01:12:57.420
<v Speaker 1>he's right on the line, Patrick. Did you update, Patrick?

1425
01:12:57.539 --> 01:12:59.300
<v Speaker 1>Did you update? I did update.

1426
01:13:00.039 --> 01:13:01.760
<v Speaker 2>You don't even know what he did yesterday, Craig.

1427
01:13:02.840 --> 01:13:05.500
<v Speaker 1>He didn't go five innings, but it was a sub-two

1428
01:13:05.539 --> 01:13:10.449
<v Speaker 1>ERA yesterday. But I don't know. I'm going to say under.

1429
01:13:10.470 --> 01:13:10.670
<v Speaker 2>Under.

1430
01:13:11.609 --> 01:13:14.149
<v Speaker 1>If I get fucking Jimenez again, I swear to God.

1431
01:13:16.609 --> 01:13:17.390
<v Speaker 2>Uh, I think he's worse.

1432
01:13:18.569 --> 01:13:25.460
<v Speaker 1>Okay. Uh, and finally, uh, Jeffrey Adrian Hauser. Oh God.

1433
01:13:26.300 --> 01:13:29.260
<v Speaker 2>Wow. Again, why would I look at Adrian Hauser?

1434
01:13:29.300 --> 01:13:30.039
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, exactly.

1435
01:13:31.180 --> 01:13:34.819
<v Speaker 2>I have no, I think. At least he didn't pick

1436
01:13:34.859 --> 01:13:37.779
<v Speaker 2>Brandon Fodd. Uh, I'll go with better.

1437
01:13:39.130 --> 01:13:42.170
<v Speaker 1>So here's, here's the thing. So Jansen junk is on

1438
01:13:42.220 --> 01:13:44.779
<v Speaker 1>my NL only team. That is a very deep thing

1439
01:13:45.039 --> 01:13:47.180
<v Speaker 1>as is Adrian Hauser right now, because I know he's,

1440
01:13:47.640 --> 01:13:51.920
<v Speaker 1>he's been like incredible in August. I don't know if

1441
01:13:51.960 --> 01:13:54.760
<v Speaker 1>that gets him under or not, but I, because of

1442
01:13:54.819 --> 01:13:58.260
<v Speaker 1>that trajectory, I am also going to say better than

1443
01:13:58.479 --> 01:14:05.020
<v Speaker 1>league average. Patrick. Oh, sorry. Better. I'm saying better than

1444
01:14:05.050 --> 01:14:08.149
<v Speaker 1>league average. I'm distracted. All right. Yes. So the final score,

1445
01:14:08.850 --> 01:14:11.529
<v Speaker 1>Jeffrey 10, Craig 7.

1446
01:14:11.529 --> 01:14:14.810
<v Speaker 3>Jeffrey really nailed the pitchers every single one he was correct.

1447
01:14:16.810 --> 01:14:19.210
<v Speaker 3>So Josh Bell has a 109.

1448
01:14:19.210 --> 01:14:21.189
<v Speaker 1>How close was Jansen Junk? We'll get there. Josh Bell

1449
01:14:21.250 --> 01:14:21.710
<v Speaker 1>is a 109.

1450
01:14:21.710 --> 01:14:22.489
<v Speaker 2>Stephen Kwan is a 105.

1451
01:14:22.489 --> 01:14:23.920
<v Speaker 1>Willie Adames is a 97, as is Ozzy Albies. Josh

1452
01:14:23.939 --> 01:14:25.779
<v Speaker 1>Bailey is up to a 103. Albies is under now.

1453
01:14:25.800 --> 01:14:39.550
<v Speaker 1>Colt Keats at 110. No, Albies was 107, I thought

1454
01:14:39.569 --> 01:14:43.710
<v Speaker 1>you said. No. No. What was Albies? I said Adamas

1455
01:14:43.750 --> 01:14:48.880
<v Speaker 1>and Albies are 97. Josh Naylor's 103. Colt Keith is 110.

1456
01:14:48.880 --> 01:14:53.380
<v Speaker 1>Carter Jensen's down to 94. Damn. He's not hitting. On

1457
01:14:53.399 --> 01:14:56.359
<v Speaker 1>the pitching side, whatever Jeff picked was correct. Bryce Elder's 3.92.

1458
01:14:56.359 --> 01:14:57.800
<v Speaker 1>Tanner Bybee, 3.97. Paul Skeen's 3.95.

1459
01:14:57.800 --> 01:14:59.800
<v Speaker 3>I think it's very funny to have him between those two.

1460
01:14:59.819 --> 01:15:09.170
<v Speaker 3>Will Warren, 4.43. Noah Cameron is down to a 4.02.

1461
01:15:09.170 --> 01:15:12.829
<v Speaker 1>Beautiful. You did it. Chance and Junk did have a

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<v Speaker 1>ZRA drop from 4.37 to 4.25. 2.5. Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>I knew it was going to be close.

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<v Speaker 1>4.08 somehow. Yeah. I can't imagine how that could happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Well done, Jeff. Congratulations. Yep. Thank you for the game, Patrick.

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