WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.080 --> 00:00:03.200 Hey folks, and welcome to Game Spots Cyberpunk twenty seventy 2 00:00:03.319 --> 00:00:06.799 seven Full spoiler cast. I'm Lucy, joined by Kelli Hello 3 00:00:07.639 --> 00:00:10.720 and Jake Hello. Now it should be pretty obvious, but 4 00:00:10.839 --> 00:00:14.400 this is going to be a filled with spoilers. We're 5 00:00:14.400 --> 00:00:16.559 going to be dissecting the story, so if you haven't 6 00:00:16.559 --> 00:00:19.640 completed the game, this is your chance to back away now. 7 00:00:20.000 --> 00:00:23.600 And another piece of housekeeping, there is obviously a lot 8 00:00:23.640 --> 00:00:27.559 going on with Cyberpunk right now, crunch issues, last gen 9 00:00:27.640 --> 00:00:31.600 console issues, next Gen upgrade issues, the whole kit and kaboodle. 10 00:00:31.879 --> 00:00:33.560 We're not going to be touching upon that in this 11 00:00:33.679 --> 00:00:36.840 video because this video is just our spoiler cast of 12 00:00:36.920 --> 00:00:39.560 the story. However, if you do want to be kept 13 00:00:39.640 --> 00:00:42.439 up to date with everything going on in Cyberpunk, make 14 00:00:42.439 --> 00:00:45.159 sure to like this video and subscribe to our channel 15 00:00:45.200 --> 00:00:48.280 so you'll be first in line when we upload something new. 16 00:00:48.880 --> 00:00:50.439 We're going to be covering a lot of ground in 17 00:00:50.479 --> 00:00:53.439 this video, so we have got timestamps in the description. 18 00:00:53.439 --> 00:00:55.640 For your convenience. All right, let's get going. 19 00:01:00.640 --> 00:01:04.519 Let's start off with overall impressions. Now, Kelly, you did 20 00:01:04.599 --> 00:01:07.920 our review, gave it a seven out of ten. Can 21 00:01:08.000 --> 00:01:10.920 we quickly distill mule feelings on the game Now that 22 00:01:10.959 --> 00:01:13.000 you've had some time to reflect on. 23 00:01:12.920 --> 00:01:15.680 It a bit more, Yeah, I should say it was 24 00:01:15.760 --> 00:01:18.519 kind of like a soft seven. When I went in, 25 00:01:18.680 --> 00:01:21.159 I kind of waffled between the six and a seven, 26 00:01:21.200 --> 00:01:23.000 and I would say, like, as time has gone on, 27 00:01:23.040 --> 00:01:27.799 I've kind of my opinion has diminished a little bit, 28 00:01:27.959 --> 00:01:30.400 So I would say some highlights for me were the 29 00:01:30.439 --> 00:01:33.640 side stories. I thought the side quests were really strong 30 00:01:33.719 --> 00:01:34.760 in a lot of ways. There was a lot of 31 00:01:34.840 --> 00:01:39.000 variety in the side quests, maybe not as complex in 32 00:01:39.079 --> 00:01:42.719 terms of like what you were actually doing, but a 33 00:01:42.719 --> 00:01:47.519 lot of interesting kind of like light the match of 34 00:01:47.560 --> 00:01:50.920 an idea. I'm going to follow this thread. I really 35 00:01:50.959 --> 00:01:56.719 liked the core cast of characters, and that also kind 36 00:01:56.719 --> 00:01:58.519 of fed into what I didn't like so much about 37 00:01:58.560 --> 00:02:00.719 the game, because I felt like so many of those 38 00:02:00.719 --> 00:02:03.439 things like they were explored up until the point and 39 00:02:03.519 --> 00:02:06.359 then kind of dropped, which we'll definitely talk about in 40 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:10.919 this video in more detail. And I really think like 41 00:02:11.199 --> 00:02:13.960 I wish that the game had more to say. I 42 00:02:13.960 --> 00:02:16.280 feel like it brought up all these really interesting ideas 43 00:02:16.319 --> 00:02:20.159 and I really started out like really intrigued and then 44 00:02:20.639 --> 00:02:23.719 a lot of those threads just kind of dissipated. I 45 00:02:23.719 --> 00:02:26.759 also think it kind of suffers as an RPG. I 46 00:02:26.800 --> 00:02:30.479 think that there is some cool variety to the combat, 47 00:02:30.639 --> 00:02:32.479 and like to the way you can approach different things, 48 00:02:32.520 --> 00:02:37.159 like with hacking or with different cybernetics. But I felt 49 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:39.840 like I was playing a canon character rather than role 50 00:02:39.840 --> 00:02:43.199 playing my own character. I think that's just something that 51 00:02:43.240 --> 00:02:46.439 you fall into when you have a voiced, playable character. 52 00:02:46.680 --> 00:02:49.240 It just seemed to me like trying to be the 53 00:02:49.240 --> 00:02:52.599 best of both worlds, a written character and your own character. 54 00:02:52.680 --> 00:02:54.080 I just don't think that worked very well. 55 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:57.439 I agree with a lot of what you said. Actually, 56 00:02:57.520 --> 00:03:02.479 I really really enjoyed my time with the game. I 57 00:03:02.280 --> 00:03:04.120 like there was a lot of it that I really 58 00:03:04.120 --> 00:03:06.120 really liked, and then there was some stuff that just 59 00:03:06.199 --> 00:03:08.599 upon reflection and having completed it a week or so ago, 60 00:03:08.719 --> 00:03:09.680 now that I'm thinking back. 61 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:13.199 And going like, yeah, that wasn't maybe the best thought out. 62 00:03:13.360 --> 00:03:13.800 I think. 63 00:03:14.520 --> 00:03:17.039 We did a video Jake John Luke and I last 64 00:03:17.039 --> 00:03:19.159 week and it was about which you can watch we'll 65 00:03:19.159 --> 00:03:21.080 link to it down below, but it was a list 66 00:03:21.159 --> 00:03:23.639 of things that we would love to see improved, and 67 00:03:23.719 --> 00:03:26.599 actually when we were brainstorming for that list. There was 68 00:03:26.639 --> 00:03:29.280 a lot of things, especially quality of life updates, that 69 00:03:30.360 --> 00:03:33.080 I would absolutely love to see added to the game, 70 00:03:33.120 --> 00:03:35.520 because it does just kind of chip away at the 71 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:37.199 good times. 72 00:03:37.280 --> 00:03:39.360 I guess there were some real standout moments for me. 73 00:03:39.879 --> 00:03:41.719 We'll definitely talk about side quests and some of the 74 00:03:41.800 --> 00:03:46.199 characters Judy, my Love, PanAm River. I loved, love, love 75 00:03:46.280 --> 00:03:48.800 those quests, and I think it was at its best 76 00:03:48.840 --> 00:03:51.919 when it was really really claustrophobic, like in that first 77 00:03:52.400 --> 00:03:53.120 opening mission. 78 00:03:53.199 --> 00:03:53.759 For example. 79 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:56.840 If you play Corpo where it's super tense and you're 80 00:03:56.879 --> 00:03:59.120 kind of or at least the heist in when you're 81 00:03:59.120 --> 00:04:02.080 in the hotel, when it's these really tense moments, I 82 00:04:02.120 --> 00:04:05.479 think it really really shines. But I think it definitely 83 00:04:05.520 --> 00:04:08.120 loses some of its luster in the open world. I 84 00:04:08.159 --> 00:04:09.800 just felt like there was too much in there and 85 00:04:09.879 --> 00:04:11.919 not enough of it interested me. 86 00:04:12.840 --> 00:04:14.599 But Jake, what about you? What did you think? 87 00:04:15.000 --> 00:04:19.720 My thoughts on this game have been a roller coaster Initially. 88 00:04:19.759 --> 00:04:21.720 When I initially played it, which was over a very 89 00:04:21.720 --> 00:04:24.800 short period, like cally a couple days, I really enjoyed it. 90 00:04:25.720 --> 00:04:27.639 I think as more people got their hands on it, 91 00:04:27.680 --> 00:04:31.240 a lot of the bug discourse started happening, people started 92 00:04:31.240 --> 00:04:35.040 poking holes through different things. I kind of lost interest 93 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:37.279 and kind of started getting a little disappointed. But I've 94 00:04:37.279 --> 00:04:41.120 been replaying it slowly on a second play through, and 95 00:04:41.160 --> 00:04:43.240 I've really been enjoying it. Honestly, I've been having I've 96 00:04:43.279 --> 00:04:46.519 been having a great time. That said, a lot of 97 00:04:46.519 --> 00:04:48.720 what you guys have said I entirely agree with. I 98 00:04:48.720 --> 00:04:53.439 think there are a lot of issues with the story 99 00:04:53.560 --> 00:04:56.680 clashing with the gameplay. There are a lot of issues 100 00:04:56.720 --> 00:04:59.199 with the RPG elements I think. I don't think a 101 00:04:59.279 --> 00:05:01.879 lot of them were as well as they hoped. But 102 00:05:02.759 --> 00:05:05.680 there are things there that I really do genuinely like. 103 00:05:05.720 --> 00:05:08.000 I think, for example, like we don't want to talk 104 00:05:08.040 --> 00:05:10.040 too much about the gameplay, but I think the gameplay 105 00:05:10.079 --> 00:05:13.839 works really well the later on you get and like 106 00:05:13.959 --> 00:05:17.360 the way certain things can just completely change how you play. 107 00:05:17.560 --> 00:05:22.240 Something simple like the double jump like genuinely changed how 108 00:05:22.279 --> 00:05:25.240 I was playing that game. Like there'd be objectives, or 109 00:05:25.240 --> 00:05:27.720 there'd be small missions I do where normally I just 110 00:05:27.759 --> 00:05:29.480 go through the front door or try to sneak in, 111 00:05:29.560 --> 00:05:32.279 where I could just literally jump to the roof, drop in, 112 00:05:32.560 --> 00:05:35.879 grab what needed to get and leave and that stuff 113 00:05:35.920 --> 00:05:38.279 is super cool. Those gameplay decisions that they'd give you, 114 00:05:38.879 --> 00:05:43.600 I think are excellent. It's just how the gameplay manifests 115 00:05:43.680 --> 00:05:47.759 itself in the story that just doesn't quite work with me. 116 00:05:47.879 --> 00:05:51.160 But that being said, overall, I was and I am 117 00:05:51.240 --> 00:05:53.839 still pretty positive on the game. I'm super excited to 118 00:05:53.839 --> 00:05:57.920 see how they update this game, how they fix things, 119 00:05:57.959 --> 00:06:00.560 add new features, and of course DLC like I think 120 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:02.959 there's still so many more stories to tell in Night City. 121 00:06:03.600 --> 00:06:06.600 I love the way you danced around saying ludo narrative 122 00:06:09.560 --> 00:06:12.160 absolutely made you put five dollars in a jaw for 123 00:06:12.199 --> 00:06:15.120 that one. All right, let's let's start off at the beginning. 124 00:06:15.199 --> 00:06:17.279 At the beginning of the game, which life path did 125 00:06:17.319 --> 00:06:19.360 we all pick? CALLI, which one did you go for? 126 00:06:19.759 --> 00:06:20.639 I went with Nomad. 127 00:06:20.680 --> 00:06:23.000 I just figured, you know, I don't know anything about 128 00:06:23.079 --> 00:06:25.560 night City besides what I knew about the tabletop game, 129 00:06:26.360 --> 00:06:28.199 so I'll go with the character that doesn't know a 130 00:06:28.240 --> 00:06:30.319 lot about Night City, Jake. 131 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:33.600 I did Nomad for the first play through, street Kid 132 00:06:33.759 --> 00:06:35.560 on the second play through, And I think this is 133 00:06:35.600 --> 00:06:38.160 one of my big bigger issues with the game is 134 00:06:38.160 --> 00:06:41.319 that that doesn't really manifest into a lot and I'm 135 00:06:41.319 --> 00:06:43.160 sure we'll touch on that, but that's something that I 136 00:06:43.240 --> 00:06:46.439 did want to mention. I even replayed the Nomad one 137 00:06:46.680 --> 00:06:49.120 recently with Rob for a gameplay series we're working on, 138 00:06:49.399 --> 00:06:52.720 and they set up characters that you never meet, that 139 00:06:53.079 --> 00:06:55.279 have nothing to do with the story, and it just 140 00:06:55.360 --> 00:06:58.040 feels like something just got cut from the game. That 141 00:06:58.120 --> 00:06:59.959 was a long winded way to say, yeah, I played. No, 142 00:07:01.240 --> 00:07:02.759 I wouldn't get that out of my system. 143 00:07:03.040 --> 00:07:04.040 Well, so that's interesting. 144 00:07:04.079 --> 00:07:08.680 So I played Corpo and because I loved the idea of, 145 00:07:08.839 --> 00:07:10.839 you know, being in the heart of a megacorp and 146 00:07:10.839 --> 00:07:13.959 taking it down from the inside. Because in my head 147 00:07:14.000 --> 00:07:15.439 at least, I had it all planned out that I 148 00:07:15.519 --> 00:07:18.639 was going to be, you know, this Corporo netrunner who's 149 00:07:18.639 --> 00:07:21.800 been wronged, and you know that definitely speaks to Kelly 150 00:07:21.839 --> 00:07:24.279 what you were saying, where it's like so many ideas 151 00:07:24.279 --> 00:07:27.279 that just don't quite you know, there was so much 152 00:07:27.319 --> 00:07:30.519 promise and it just doesn't quite hit those threads. We 153 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:32.600 don't need to get into that too much just now. 154 00:07:32.959 --> 00:07:36.519 But my in my corporate playthrough, when I was arriving 155 00:07:36.519 --> 00:07:38.800 in the Arisaka building, there is a character who you 156 00:07:38.879 --> 00:07:42.959 can choose to speak to and He only really stuck 157 00:07:43.000 --> 00:07:44.519 out for me because he reminded me a lot of 158 00:07:44.600 --> 00:07:48.639 Kendall from Succession, just like this very awkward corporate man, 159 00:07:49.160 --> 00:07:52.879 and he also sounded a little bit like him. And 160 00:07:52.959 --> 00:07:55.279 I did actually encounter him later on in the game, 161 00:07:55.279 --> 00:07:58.399 which I was very surprised at, and he tried to 162 00:07:58.600 --> 00:08:03.560 like mess me, mess me around or you know, when 163 00:08:03.600 --> 00:08:06.040 you start the corporal life path, there was this incident 164 00:08:06.160 --> 00:08:10.000 happening at Arisaka and he has all this info on it, 165 00:08:10.040 --> 00:08:12.040 and he tries to basically say to you, Hey, I 166 00:08:12.040 --> 00:08:13.199 have this info for you. 167 00:08:13.199 --> 00:08:14.600 You can get one over on Arisaca. 168 00:08:15.079 --> 00:08:19.000 And I met him and it was the most just 169 00:08:20.279 --> 00:08:22.639 it just didn't really have any repercussions. I've met up 170 00:08:22.680 --> 00:08:26.040 with him and he immediately just tried to attack me. 171 00:08:26.160 --> 00:08:29.000 So I killed him and that was it. It just 172 00:08:29.040 --> 00:08:30.879 didn't amount to anything. I thought it was going to 173 00:08:30.920 --> 00:08:34.559 be this big sweeping choice that I'd made that would 174 00:08:34.559 --> 00:08:35.240 come back. 175 00:08:35.159 --> 00:08:36.919 Later, but it wasn't. 176 00:08:37.639 --> 00:08:39.279 Was it a side quest? 177 00:08:39.559 --> 00:08:39.840 Yeah. 178 00:08:39.919 --> 00:08:43.519 I think he just like texted me and said, hey, 179 00:08:43.559 --> 00:08:47.399 I have this info. And Johnny was obviously unhappy because 180 00:08:47.399 --> 00:08:49.879 it was oh, you're still a Corpo bitch kind of thing. 181 00:08:51.080 --> 00:08:52.720 That is something I do want to say, just to 182 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:55.559 cover our basis here, is that there are specific quests 183 00:08:55.600 --> 00:08:58.279 that you can get depending on the life path you choose, 184 00:08:58.519 --> 00:09:00.600 but most of them I don't think any of them 185 00:09:00.639 --> 00:09:02.840 really have anything to do with the overall story. That 186 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:05.559 being said, I haven't finished Street Kid, I haven't done Corpo, 187 00:09:06.000 --> 00:09:08.200 but based on your experience, it doesn't sound like that 188 00:09:08.279 --> 00:09:12.279 happens the street. The nomad doesn't. That doesn't happen, And 189 00:09:12.320 --> 00:09:15.159 with street Kid, I've started the quest that is specific 190 00:09:15.200 --> 00:09:17.200 to street kids, so I don't know if that ties in, 191 00:09:17.279 --> 00:09:22.720 But based on our experiences, it seems like these special 192 00:09:22.799 --> 00:09:25.320 quests depending on your life path don't really factor into 193 00:09:25.679 --> 00:09:26.679 the main story. 194 00:09:27.159 --> 00:09:29.480 Yeah, how did you feel about the language though, like 195 00:09:29.519 --> 00:09:33.320 the specific text options you could pick. 196 00:09:34.559 --> 00:09:36.919 I mean, it didn't really seem to alter anything too 197 00:09:37.000 --> 00:09:40.279 much for me. I did like having the nomad options 198 00:09:40.360 --> 00:09:44.240 with pan Am. I thought that like gave a little 199 00:09:44.279 --> 00:09:49.799 bit more dimension to her specifically, but I didn't like 200 00:09:49.879 --> 00:09:54.360 it didn't overall shape the way I approached anything or 201 00:09:55.159 --> 00:09:58.519 give me like new insight that you know, comparing notes 202 00:09:58.519 --> 00:10:01.240 with people who played other life pats, like, I don't 203 00:10:01.279 --> 00:10:03.720 think I got anything different out of it than you did. 204 00:10:05.600 --> 00:10:08.120 Yeah, it seemed more flavor to me, and I didn't 205 00:10:08.120 --> 00:10:10.279 mind it. I did like it, especially like you're saying 206 00:10:10.279 --> 00:10:12.600 with pan Am and now that I'm playing as street Kid, 207 00:10:12.720 --> 00:10:14.840 like I know my way around Rogue a bit more 208 00:10:14.879 --> 00:10:17.639 than I would otherwise, And I think all those details 209 00:10:17.639 --> 00:10:22.600 are really nice additions. But yeah, it didn't like fundamentally 210 00:10:22.720 --> 00:10:25.320 change the way I was talking to characters and interacting 211 00:10:25.360 --> 00:10:25.879 with the world. 212 00:10:26.759 --> 00:10:30.559 I felt like, maybe because I picked Corpo and obviously 213 00:10:30.600 --> 00:10:32.639 all the dealings you have with Arisaka, I thought there 214 00:10:32.679 --> 00:10:36.480 were some really nice flourishes to using those voice lines 215 00:10:37.240 --> 00:10:40.080 when you're going And the thing is is, I haven't 216 00:10:40.120 --> 00:10:43.600 really I did the Nomad Live Path intro just to 217 00:10:43.639 --> 00:10:46.000 capture it, but I didn't play any more beyond that. 218 00:10:46.039 --> 00:10:47.480 But you know, when you go to the hotel on 219 00:10:47.519 --> 00:10:50.200 that heist, you know you can be a dick to 220 00:10:50.440 --> 00:10:54.799 the personal reception, and there are other things like when 221 00:10:54.799 --> 00:10:57.480 you're with Takimura you can reference your old corporate life 222 00:10:57.519 --> 00:11:00.200 because you have that kind of shared backstory. So even 223 00:11:00.200 --> 00:11:02.039 if it didn't impact it too much, I did really 224 00:11:02.120 --> 00:11:03.000 like the flavor. 225 00:11:03.240 --> 00:11:06.360 Yeah, absolutely flourish. 226 00:11:06.399 --> 00:11:07.840 That's a good way of putting. 227 00:11:07.600 --> 00:11:12.759 In Irish Okay, we've danced around side missions before. We 228 00:11:12.799 --> 00:11:16.039 talk about how we felt the overall main story quest 229 00:11:16.559 --> 00:11:20.120 panned out. But let's talk about side missions because Cali, 230 00:11:20.159 --> 00:11:22.440 you mentioned this before. We've all talked about this before. 231 00:11:22.480 --> 00:11:26.240 Some of those have really been the standouts. Let's talk 232 00:11:26.279 --> 00:11:27.039 about Cinnamon. 233 00:11:27.919 --> 00:11:29.200 Let's talk about Cinnerman. 234 00:11:31.120 --> 00:11:33.519 Which where do you even begin with that one? 235 00:11:34.799 --> 00:11:37.039 I think it says a lot when the game actively 236 00:11:37.080 --> 00:11:42.440 blocks you from taking any screenshots of a particular side mission. 237 00:11:42.759 --> 00:11:46.159 Yeah, I guess for setup. For those who maybe don't 238 00:11:46.200 --> 00:11:49.080 care and are watching this video, cinner Man is basically 239 00:11:49.159 --> 00:11:53.120 you meet a character who thinks of himself as the 240 00:11:53.159 --> 00:11:56.320 second coming of Jesus Christ, and he wants to get 241 00:11:56.320 --> 00:11:59.759 crucified while the brain dance is being recorded so other 242 00:11:59.759 --> 00:12:03.960 people people can experience the suffering that Jesus went through. 243 00:12:05.360 --> 00:12:10.399 There's more to it than that, but that's like you 244 00:12:10.600 --> 00:12:14.480 experienced that crucifixion. You can even partake in it by 245 00:12:14.799 --> 00:12:17.799 nailing his appendages into. 246 00:12:17.639 --> 00:12:18.919 The cross, which is what I did. 247 00:12:22.240 --> 00:12:25.639 Matt Paget walked away. He's just I'm not going to 248 00:12:25.720 --> 00:12:28.480 do this and walked out the door and finished the quest, 249 00:12:28.480 --> 00:12:31.480 and I was like, I don't blame you. I don't 250 00:12:31.480 --> 00:12:32.080 blame you. 251 00:12:32.600 --> 00:12:36.600 Yeah, that quest is interesting because you're kind of egged 252 00:12:36.639 --> 00:12:39.879 onto it by Johnny, Like Johnny will be like, if 253 00:12:39.960 --> 00:12:43.639 you don't do this, I will never forgive you. This 254 00:12:43.759 --> 00:12:46.159 is the first interesting thing that's ever happened to us. 255 00:12:46.279 --> 00:12:49.360 And I'm like, okay, man, So I followed it just 256 00:12:49.480 --> 00:12:54.399 kind of at his insistence, and then I ended up 257 00:12:54.399 --> 00:12:55.519 crucifying a man. 258 00:12:55.720 --> 00:12:55.960 So. 259 00:12:57.720 --> 00:13:00.000 I mean, he wasn't wrong. It is the most interesting 260 00:13:00.120 --> 00:13:04.960 thing that happened. It felt like, really it's interesting because 261 00:13:05.279 --> 00:13:07.840 you walk around the city and you can see these 262 00:13:07.919 --> 00:13:15.080 like posters for like basically the Passion, and it's kind 263 00:13:15.080 --> 00:13:17.440 of just that's what this is. It's like tying into 264 00:13:17.480 --> 00:13:20.080 those advertisements you see, which you don't get a ton 265 00:13:20.159 --> 00:13:22.240 of in this game. So I really appreciated that, like 266 00:13:22.279 --> 00:13:26.440 those ads that you're seeing for this, like it's just 267 00:13:26.639 --> 00:13:31.679 Jesus's head I think actually came into play somewhere. But 268 00:13:31.720 --> 00:13:34.879 I was not expecting to have to physically nail the 269 00:13:34.919 --> 00:13:37.399 person to the cross and then just walk out. You 270 00:13:37.519 --> 00:13:40.639 just have to walk out and be like Okay that 271 00:13:41.279 --> 00:13:44.559 I guess I'll just go on with my day then. 272 00:13:44.799 --> 00:13:48.440 And it's the fact that you have the producer, you know. 273 00:13:48.679 --> 00:13:48.799 Like. 274 00:13:49.039 --> 00:13:50.720 The thing about that quest as well is that I 275 00:13:50.759 --> 00:13:53.519 think it's a I think it's a standout quest, and 276 00:13:53.559 --> 00:13:57.440 I think it was really good. Good seems like a 277 00:13:57.480 --> 00:13:59.639 weird word to use because of the subject map. I 278 00:13:59.679 --> 00:14:03.080 think overall, on reflection of it, it had a lot 279 00:14:03.120 --> 00:14:05.960 more to say than a lot of other yeahs cyberpunk did. 280 00:14:06.120 --> 00:14:07.679 There are so many elements to it, you know, like 281 00:14:08.000 --> 00:14:10.399 this man on death row killed someone, so you go 282 00:14:10.440 --> 00:14:14.759 and meet the victim's family. You go and you have 283 00:14:14.919 --> 00:14:17.480 the producer who's also egging you on and being like, 284 00:14:17.879 --> 00:14:19.799 why do you have to ruin this for all of us? 285 00:14:19.919 --> 00:14:21.159 Is going to make so much money, this is what 286 00:14:21.240 --> 00:14:24.000 he wants. You try and talk him out of it. 287 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.080 I was unsuccessful. I'm not even sure if you can 288 00:14:26.120 --> 00:14:28.039 talk him out of it. And then yeah, you have 289 00:14:28.120 --> 00:14:30.919 that moment where you just slowly watch him die as 290 00:14:30.919 --> 00:14:33.519 he's being recorded and all the casting crew around him 291 00:14:33.559 --> 00:14:37.799 just don't seem to care. And it is very very 292 00:14:37.799 --> 00:14:40.519 interesting and very thought provoking, but it was just one 293 00:14:40.559 --> 00:14:45.919 of those ones where there weren't as many. I think 294 00:14:45.919 --> 00:14:48.279 that stood out as much as that Wan died and 295 00:14:48.320 --> 00:14:50.840 I'm still processing my Catholic guilt about it. 296 00:14:52.279 --> 00:14:54.840 Yeah, I think that was one Like that question in 297 00:14:54.840 --> 00:14:57.000 particular really stood out to me for many reasons. But 298 00:14:57.039 --> 00:14:58.879 I think one of the big things is that we 299 00:14:59.000 --> 00:15:02.919 just don't really see quests like that in Triple A games, right, Yeah, 300 00:15:03.200 --> 00:15:06.240 Like I mean Assassin's Creed, for example, came out a 301 00:15:06.240 --> 00:15:09.080 month before, and you think that that would have a 302 00:15:09.120 --> 00:15:13.480 lot to do with Catholicism Christianity because it takes place 303 00:15:13.679 --> 00:15:16.720 as the Vikings enter England, and maybe that stuff is 304 00:15:16.720 --> 00:15:19.240 there to some extent to be completely transparent. I haven't 305 00:15:19.240 --> 00:15:23.600 finished it, but the way that's written in Cyberpunk twenty 306 00:15:23.639 --> 00:15:27.240 seventy seven feels a lot more daring to an extent 307 00:15:27.440 --> 00:15:31.000 in that regard. I really do like that quest, and 308 00:15:31.039 --> 00:15:33.840 I really do like the writing in Cyberpunk twenty seventy seven. 309 00:15:35.320 --> 00:15:38.639 I just kind of wish there was more of that, 310 00:15:38.879 --> 00:15:41.480 especially in this world that is supposed to be really 311 00:15:41.559 --> 00:15:44.159 affronting and kind of like an assault to the senses. 312 00:15:44.320 --> 00:15:45.360 Yeah. 313 00:15:44.600 --> 00:15:48.879 I want to talk about the Parala's Quest as well 314 00:15:48.879 --> 00:15:49.480 a little bit. 315 00:15:49.320 --> 00:15:54.039 So you kind of get it by interacting with River 316 00:15:54.120 --> 00:15:56.279 for the first time. It's also what sets off River's quest. 317 00:15:56.320 --> 00:15:59.200 But I thought the Parala's quest was really really cool, 318 00:15:59.639 --> 00:16:06.399 talking about manipulating politicians by by by rewiring them essentially 319 00:16:06.440 --> 00:16:08.559 and all this constant surveillance, and I thought that was 320 00:16:08.600 --> 00:16:11.960 really really cool. And then to Calli's point on it, 321 00:16:11.960 --> 00:16:14.639 it was a great thread that just went nowhere. And 322 00:16:14.679 --> 00:16:17.399 then depending on what you do, I assume Daniel Perala's 323 00:16:17.679 --> 00:16:19.679 rang me at the end because I told him that 324 00:16:19.759 --> 00:16:20.879 his wife was in on it. 325 00:16:21.559 --> 00:16:25.360 Yeah, but I did too. Yeah, he just he just vanished. 326 00:16:26.000 --> 00:16:28.960 I couldn't text him or call him anymore. I couldn't 327 00:16:28.960 --> 00:16:30.399 text or call a wife anymore. 328 00:16:31.279 --> 00:16:34.679 And that was it. And there was no that I found. 329 00:16:34.720 --> 00:16:38.279 There was no repercussion really beyond that. Yeah, and that 330 00:16:38.360 --> 00:16:42.039 question just so interesting. I mean, it's basically about gaslighting 331 00:16:42.080 --> 00:16:45.159 in a way that like isn't possible now, Like it's 332 00:16:45.320 --> 00:16:49.080 it's just reframing what gaslighting means. And these people are 333 00:16:49.120 --> 00:16:54.000 literally being made to feel crazy or and their memories 334 00:16:54.000 --> 00:16:56.759 are being altered in a way that's like honestly terrifying 335 00:16:56.799 --> 00:16:58.759 to me. And I found it so compelling. And you 336 00:16:59.480 --> 00:17:02.519 it's like this cool investigative sequence where you're like going 337 00:17:02.519 --> 00:17:05.400 through the apartment and trying to find clues and you 338 00:17:05.480 --> 00:17:08.680 discover that something's fishy and like there's so much to that, 339 00:17:08.920 --> 00:17:10.960 and and then you know, I wanted to know like 340 00:17:11.000 --> 00:17:13.759 who's doing this to them? What is the source of this, 341 00:17:13.920 --> 00:17:16.240 and like that's the part that was missing from that, 342 00:17:16.359 --> 00:17:18.799 and I was just so expecting it to be taken 343 00:17:18.839 --> 00:17:23.759 a little further on the the other side, like a 344 00:17:23.839 --> 00:17:27.000 quest that also was intriguing and I thought was like 345 00:17:27.240 --> 00:17:30.839 so interesting from the very beginning, but then like just 346 00:17:31.559 --> 00:17:35.160 absolutely crushed me was the Bart Moss Collective Quest where 347 00:17:36.000 --> 00:17:38.720 it starts with Nancy. So I kind of did it 348 00:17:38.799 --> 00:17:44.079 late in the game, and you know, to the game's credit, 349 00:17:44.160 --> 00:17:45.240 Like I was at the point where I was like 350 00:17:45.279 --> 00:17:46.960 I really need to finish this game for the review, 351 00:17:47.039 --> 00:17:48.559 so I was like not in the mood to waste 352 00:17:48.599 --> 00:17:51.680 my time, and this quest definitely wasted my time, so 353 00:17:51.720 --> 00:17:54.160 that probably made me dislike it even more. But it's 354 00:17:54.200 --> 00:17:59.279 like you're seeing this website that's just basically a kind 355 00:17:59.279 --> 00:18:04.279 of a caricature of socialists who are rejecting the way 356 00:18:04.359 --> 00:18:06.799 Night City is and the corruption night City, and the 357 00:18:06.880 --> 00:18:12.240 quest is like finding the person who the originator of 358 00:18:12.279 --> 00:18:15.880 this like radical content. And I was really interested in 359 00:18:15.920 --> 00:18:19.000 this because I thought it would be so cool to 360 00:18:19.039 --> 00:18:23.119 see what the rejection of commercialism and capitalism in the 361 00:18:23.160 --> 00:18:27.359 city would look like. And the quest is just going 362 00:18:27.400 --> 00:18:30.839 from place to place finding a Wi Fi router, and 363 00:18:30.880 --> 00:18:33.759 then it takes you to another place with another WiFi 364 00:18:33.839 --> 00:18:37.640 router until you reach a sign of like a fortune teller, 365 00:18:37.680 --> 00:18:39.079 and it's just been a whole It's just been a 366 00:18:39.079 --> 00:18:43.000 prank the whole time. And the thing that was I 367 00:18:43.079 --> 00:18:46.079 was like almost insulted by that. I was like, so, 368 00:18:46.599 --> 00:18:49.440 is there nobody in this city who's rejecting, who's like 369 00:18:49.480 --> 00:18:53.359 actively trying to fight back against this system. First of all, 370 00:18:53.400 --> 00:18:55.240 I wouldn't. I don't believe that would be that would 371 00:18:55.279 --> 00:18:57.640 be the case at all. And second of all, like 372 00:18:58.279 --> 00:19:01.680 I was really hoping to see like some sort of 373 00:19:02.680 --> 00:19:07.000 mirror to look into the world and kind of evaluate 374 00:19:07.039 --> 00:19:09.880 how do I feel about night City through this this 375 00:19:10.039 --> 00:19:12.240 lens of this group, and to find out it was 376 00:19:12.319 --> 00:19:14.519 just like somebody pranking. It just felt like like the 377 00:19:14.559 --> 00:19:17.200 game was mocking me almost for taking an interest in it. 378 00:19:18.559 --> 00:19:20.880 I just that was like the worst quest by far 379 00:19:20.920 --> 00:19:21.160 for me. 380 00:19:22.039 --> 00:19:25.200 Yeah, I mean, I think I'm amazed that that quest 381 00:19:25.839 --> 00:19:28.079 was in this game and didn't get cut because especially 382 00:19:28.279 --> 00:19:30.519 coming off The Witcher, where all the quests, even the 383 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:34.559 monster hunts, just feel so impactful and purposeful. They're all 384 00:19:34.680 --> 00:19:37.240 they all tell their own unique stories, and this one 385 00:19:37.359 --> 00:19:39.519 was just a blatant waste of time. Like even if 386 00:19:39.559 --> 00:19:43.119 you take out, like like the context of it, and 387 00:19:44.200 --> 00:19:47.400 it could be about anything, and it would still be 388 00:19:47.440 --> 00:19:49.640 a waste of time because the actual act of the 389 00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:52.440 mission is just driving to all corners of Night City 390 00:19:52.640 --> 00:19:54.559 only to get to the end. And Johnny's like, oh, yeah, 391 00:19:54.599 --> 00:19:57.039 it was just a program that has been bounced around 392 00:19:57.039 --> 00:19:59.319 the city for a while, and it's just like, wait, what, 393 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:04.400 Like there's nothing too Like it's like when you take 394 00:20:04.400 --> 00:20:06.640 the most obvious twist and you go with that and 395 00:20:06.680 --> 00:20:08.799 then you expect people to be surprised by the twist, 396 00:20:08.839 --> 00:20:11.319 but it's just like, no, there's no reward to this. 397 00:20:11.359 --> 00:20:14.160 There's nothing rewarding or interesting about it. Yeah. 398 00:20:14.279 --> 00:20:16.079 I didn't care for that one either, to be honest, 399 00:20:16.160 --> 00:20:19.400 I thought I definitely got to the point of no 400 00:20:19.559 --> 00:20:22.559 return and just went backwards and just kind of completed 401 00:20:22.559 --> 00:20:24.440