Speaker 1: M m m.
Speaker 2: Hello everybody, Welcome to it almost came home. It's it's
Speaker 2: not quite coming home. You are listening to this presumably
Speaker 2: on Friday. We are recording this literally minutes after the
Speaker 2: final whistle of the England Argentina game, where we've not
Speaker 2: really spoken about the World Cup very much. But like that,
Speaker 2: that intro here today could have gone to very different
Speaker 2: ways as it happens. Here we go once again. It's
Speaker 2: not it's not quite coming home, but quite here we are.
Speaker 2: We are that's not metal obviously. This is an addition
Speaker 2: of hype Blast. This is our weekly news show where
Speaker 2: we let you know everything that's been going on in
Speaker 2: the world of heavy music. We've got a little bit
Speaker 2: of news today and the releases, and then primarily we
Speaker 2: are going to be talking all things bringing the Horizon
Speaker 2: count your blessings. Repented with the twentieth anniversary celebrations, which
Speaker 2: included both the re recording of the album that came
Speaker 2: out last week and also the big twentieth anniversary shows
Speaker 2: that went down in conspiracy with Outbreak Festival, which which
Speaker 2: Sam and I both attended. So let us, I don't know,
Speaker 2: lift the defeat off of our shoulders, right now and
Speaker 2: roll into some heavy music here on that's not metal.
Speaker 2: First up, a little bit of news. Mastered On. First
Speaker 2: of all, have announced the details of their album. It's
Speaker 2: called Marrow Deep, not Poisonous Weapons, as I kind of
Speaker 2: think everyone thought it was going to be called because
Speaker 2: of the tall announcement. There is a song on the
Speaker 2: album called Poisonous Weapons, so I guess they've just decided
Speaker 2: to slap that one on the tour title. It's not
Speaker 2: the song that they have now release can We had
Speaker 2: the previous single Your Ghost Again and they've now also
Speaker 2: put out another one which is called Snakes for Dinner
Speaker 2: Yum yum yum. And it also features a second in
Speaker 2: their career guest appearance from Josh Homy of Queens of
Speaker 2: the Stone Age appearing on it. But several things of
Speaker 2: interest going on with this Mastered On week. I suppose
Speaker 2: of news and interest. Obviously album coming out, Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: or want to hear that that is August the twenty eighth,
Speaker 2: the album is going to be coming out. It also
Speaker 2: confirms I suppose we have like a full band picture
Speaker 2: here for the first time ever, Mastodon are officially a
Speaker 2: five piece with the guitarist Nick Johnston, who has been
Speaker 2: you know, playing with them live since the departure of
Speaker 2: Brent Hines last year. But also they have officially integrated
Speaker 2: the keyboardist how Nogia, so they are like officially a
Speaker 2: full on prog rock five piece by the sounds of
Speaker 2: you know, the moog solos and the keyboard sales and
Speaker 2: shit that we go on in both of these singles.
Speaker 1: It's mad.
Speaker 2: Obviously we know that. You know, Brent, even before his
Speaker 2: really sad passing last year, was not in the band,
Speaker 2: but getting the a band picture with a five piece
Speaker 2: master on five piece Mason.
Speaker 1: It's a weird, like that thing that the pr shot
Speaker 1: that's coming, like the news. I was like, that's going
Speaker 1: to take some getting used to again, even Breton not
Speaker 1: being there, because Brent visually one of the most kind
Speaker 1: of like striking metal musicians ever. But like that, and
Speaker 1: now that there's two other guys in there and it
Speaker 1: is this mass on five piece like it is, it
Speaker 1: is a weird thing obviously because I saw it live
Speaker 1: before when they were just sort of live members. But
Speaker 1: now that they are a vision of like I mean,
Speaker 1: that's great because I mean there was a really good
Speaker 1: chemistry live between the five of them, and it felt
Speaker 1: like they were really vibe and playing together. So this
Speaker 1: this still was like a cool, itterational mass on, but
Speaker 1: it is just an odd thing to see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I wonder if if there's any degree of
Speaker 2: you know, people worried about it missing Brent or something, which,
Speaker 2: to be clear, I think it may well, do you know,
Speaker 2: even it's.
Speaker 1: Gone, He's such a vital part of their sound.
Speaker 2: Even if Mathodon continue to be great, as I also
Speaker 2: kind of think they will be doing, it won't be
Speaker 2: the same, right, That is just undeniable. But if you're
Speaker 2: going to, you know, if you lose a component like that,
Speaker 2: one way of you know, filling in some sound in
Speaker 2: the mix maybe is just to go bring in a
Speaker 2: full time keyboardist, right and just completely go mad with
Speaker 2: that stuff. There's also in the mix of the album
Speaker 2: as a whole list of guests. So obviously mentioned Josh
Speaker 2: Trump from Queens of Stone Age on the new track
Speaker 2: that's come out, but there is also a wild list
Speaker 2: of folks who are going to be appearing on this album,
Speaker 2: both Nate Newton and Ben Koller from Converge and on
Speaker 2: different songs. I might add, it's not that they've just
Speaker 2: got Converge in there, but apparently there's two different songs
Speaker 2: with two different members of Converged on them. Lamb of
Speaker 2: God's Randy Blythe is also on one of these songs
Speaker 2: Clutches Neil Fallon or another returning obviously mastered on guests
Speaker 2: from you know, the Golden Era kaji Is Joda Plantier
Speaker 2: in there as well, and only fucking Geezer Butler from
Speaker 2: Black Sabbath. So is that the most re list of
Speaker 2: guests ever assembled on a heavy album, not including things
Speaker 2: like Probot or whatever, which are like literally themed around
Speaker 2: having different guests, And that is a wild bunch of
Speaker 2: folks on there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, And the thing is that they all feel right
Speaker 1: for mass On again, it's kind of brilliant of how
Speaker 1: why reaching mass One Sandal where like they're very different bands,
Speaker 1: but they all kind of like feel like they can
Speaker 1: gel so nicely. Like obviously the Converge ones are the
Speaker 1: ones that kind of like speak to me. Neil Fallon
Speaker 1: coming back for another one is you know, one of
Speaker 1: the all time greatest guest spots ever, like in metal
Speaker 1: in any genre way, you want to say that blood
Speaker 1: kind of one is unbelievable can't wait to hear what
Speaker 1: he's going to do again with Massively. It's I think
Speaker 1: it's a real kind of like exciting thing to add
Speaker 1: to this album.
Speaker 2: It seems like almost almost a family gathering to me,
Speaker 2: and I wonder if you know, I can't want to
Speaker 2: sort of read too deeply into this already, but we
Speaker 2: obviously we know that this is going to be another
Speaker 2: you know, fairly longline at this stage, but particularly another
Speaker 2: weighty album from matterdon Thematically, and that's been you know,
Speaker 2: obviously a big topic conversation just this week as well,
Speaker 2: because after we recorded last week show yeah yeah, they
Speaker 2: mastered on put out. You may well have seen it
Speaker 2: quite lengthy sort of you know, to camera interview type
Speaker 2: piece with the three remaining you know, key members talking
Speaker 2: about essentially, you know, the ups and downs of their
Speaker 2: relationship with Brent and how that all came to an
Speaker 2: end and where they are now with it, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of approaching a year later. And I thought that
Speaker 2: was you know, certainly a brave and how kind of
Speaker 2: unvarnished it was feature they put out there. I think
Speaker 2: that there I could imagine people watching that and almost
Speaker 2: being affronted, I suppose by the sort of level of
Speaker 2: openness they were with which they spoke about, you know,
Speaker 2: Brent and his time in that band and how it
Speaker 2: came to an end and all of that. I think
Speaker 2: to a degree, it's like, what what can you do?
Speaker 2: You know, you can't rewrite the history like they all
Speaker 2: say in it. They all wanted it to have a
Speaker 2: different ending, you know, and unfortunately everybody was was deprived
Speaker 2: of that. But and we're going back to the album
Speaker 2: and the guests. When you've got characters like Neil Fallon
Speaker 2: and Josh Homie who have you been on mastered albums before?
Speaker 2: And everyone involved in there is there's no newer faces there, right,
Speaker 2: It's either people who have kind of come up alongside
Speaker 2: mastered on so like you know, Kajira or even converged
Speaker 2: to a degree, or obviously in Geezer, Butler like you know,
Speaker 2: one of the initial inspirations all of this. Yeah, it
Speaker 2: almost feels like, you know, it's like the the end
Speaker 2: of a saga where you see all the people, the
Speaker 2: faces that you've known coming together. I think there's definitely
Speaker 2: some sort of you know, there's history to this list
Speaker 2: of folks on there. And I do just want to
Speaker 2: also point out, just for anyone who might not have
Speaker 2: seen it, that the album cover for it, which is
Speaker 2: classic you know, Paul Romano mastered on style artwork, but
Speaker 2: you know, littered with details, as there always is with
Speaker 2: with with his artworks for Masterdon. But if you look
Speaker 2: at the faces, if you look around sort of towards
Speaker 2: the right hand side of the mastered on logo, a
Speaker 2: little bit past where the end is, and there's a
Speaker 2: little row of faces, you can quite clearly see Brent
Speaker 2: Hines in that.
Speaker 1: Yeah, the tattoo is very like this give well on
Speaker 1: that one. But like I miss idea initially, and then
Speaker 1: when I saw some of the thing as you posted
Speaker 1: that the Zooner version, was like, oh yeah, cool that
Speaker 1: that feels very on brand of having this like thematically
Speaker 1: kind of like dense, visually interesting arranged mass on album mark.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's absolutely unmistakable in there. But yeah, August of
Speaker 2: twenty eighth we'll be hearing the full extent of this,
Speaker 2: you know, particularly significant weighty master on record. Let's keep
Speaker 2: on the Joff homykick, I suppose for a moment, because
Speaker 2: Queens of the Stone Age have released a single. It
Speaker 2: is their first piece of new music in three years,
Speaker 2: which doesn't feel that long since the last Queens of
Speaker 2: Sooner album. I love that album quite a bit. But
Speaker 2: first new piece of music in three years, not part
Speaker 2: of a new record as of yet.
Speaker 1: Weird.
Speaker 2: This is strange single this it's called easy Street. And
Speaker 2: the way that I suppose you have to make sense
Speaker 2: of this is if you heard this just out of
Speaker 2: context new Queens of Stone as track, you go, what
Speaker 2: the fuck has happened? What they doing? If you have
Speaker 2: not been, like, you know, following kind of close to
Speaker 2: the ground what Queens have been doing. Obviously, they put
Speaker 2: out the new record in twenty three and they tore
Speaker 2: that and everything. But past sort of like eighteen months
Speaker 2: or so, they've been doing this very bizarre kind of
Speaker 2: like old school. I don't want to say stripped back
Speaker 2: because it's kind of not like there's so many components
Speaker 2: involve what they've been doing. But they're doing a more
Speaker 2: sort of acoustic style Queen's set up, which they've sort
Speaker 2: of labeled as the Catacombs type setup because it started
Speaker 2: with them playing a set in the Paris Catacombs. But
Speaker 2: then they were like, actually, you know, touring on big
Speaker 2: stages and stuff like that. And my understanding is that
Speaker 2: this is a song that kind of you know, germinated
Speaker 2: and appeared on stage as part of this whole run,
Speaker 2: and now we've got a studio, you know, version of it.
Speaker 2: I don't know if this means that we will have
Speaker 2: a like full on, almost converged blood Moon style, right,
Speaker 2: you know, like Queen's stone Age, a Catacombs type album.
Speaker 2: I would be very curious if that was to happen.
Speaker 2: I would just say, if you just hear this single
Speaker 2: on its own and go, what the fuck is happened
Speaker 2: Queens of stone Age, maybe don't read too much into it, right,
Speaker 2: I don't think this is a long term direction that
Speaker 2: we were going on here.
Speaker 1: Well. I mean, even if this was part of an album,
Speaker 1: I just took this as kind of like it might
Speaker 1: just be a weird deviation on the album. Queenstonage had
Speaker 1: been known to kind of like do this. I'm not
Speaker 1: a fan of this single massively. It's kind of doing
Speaker 1: like a sort of Springsteen Americana thing, but like haunted
Speaker 1: and weird and kind of like offbeat in a way
Speaker 1: that to me that would make sense as a Quins
Speaker 1: stage approach to it. I'm just not sure it entirely
Speaker 1: works for me, but like as a one off, if
Speaker 1: it's part of this sort of thing, fair enough, you know,
Speaker 1: take a swing on something like this, But it's not
Speaker 1: something I'm entirely into when I was kind of giving
Speaker 1: up to really be into new Queens of the Stone
Speaker 1: Age music.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I'm not really you know, especially taken
Speaker 2: with a single either. But it also even sounds out
Speaker 2: of character to me from what I had seen of
Speaker 2: the Katacomb stuff because if you watch, for example, very
Speaker 2: recently they put out a KXP session with like twenty
Speaker 2: musicians in that little studio that they do those things right,
Speaker 2: because there's loads of you and the cat Whom style.
Speaker 2: When we say they're acoustic, it's weird, like it's not
Speaker 2: just are we're stripping about the songs and we're playing
Speaker 2: them an acoustic guitar like there are there's so much
Speaker 2: shit in there, and it's almost like the I say,
Speaker 2: the kind of haunted vaudeville side of Queens Real going
Speaker 2: out of control, And this single doesn't actually have as
Speaker 2: much to me, Like if you've listened to this right
Speaker 2: after watching that that session I just described, they feel
Speaker 2: quite different. So even if we were to get a
Speaker 2: record this this doesn't to me actually sound like what
Speaker 2: I have seen of the show they've been doing, and
Speaker 2: it does feel like a strained sort of outlier. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I mean, we don't know. If there is a record,
Speaker 2: it might just be this weird standalone song. We get
Speaker 2: nothing more from it, in which case maybe people won't
Speaker 2: think about it, you know, for too long after this point.
Speaker 2: But even if we were to get a record, doesn't
Speaker 2: sound like what they have been doing. It's very very strange.
Speaker 2: I would be curious about if we got more material
Speaker 2: in this vein. I think you just maybe have to,
Speaker 2: you know, you set their expectations appropriately and be like, okay,
Speaker 2: we're going on a side tangent here, we're going on
Speaker 2: a detour rather than like, you know, the main line
Speaker 2: Queen's records, so to speak. But there you go. What
Speaker 2: we are certainly mainlining is new Nickelback, whoever announced that
Speaker 2: they have got a new album called Everything under the Sun,
Speaker 2: which is going to be coming out in October. And
Speaker 2: there's a song called Rattle the Cage was the last
Speaker 2: Nickelback album, the one that we reviewed that had San
Speaker 2: Quentin on it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think this is just carrying on the film,
Speaker 1: like Nickelback albums, opening with like a bit of a
Speaker 1: banger and then probably the rest it's gonna be a
Speaker 1: bit shit because that's what like Sam Quentin was on
Speaker 1: that on that album, was like, oh this, you know,
Speaker 1: with the panic chords and that big let the record show.
Speaker 1: I did it all for rock and roll chorus. That's rocking.
Speaker 1: And I think this first track on this one with
Speaker 1: John five guessing on it like fine, Like I think
Speaker 1: it's again, it's kind of just a Nickelback hard rock
Speaker 1: kind of riffy banger. And then the other song they
Speaker 1: released is a bit rubbish, so I was like, yeah,
Speaker 1: look back business as usual.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, that's San Quentin song, and it was. It
Speaker 2: was the thirty song on that record. The other one
Speaker 2: was the skinny little mixing it was and they were
Speaker 2: two of the catchiest Nickelback songs ever and they were
Speaker 2: so fucking stupid.
Speaker 1: This one.
Speaker 2: I don't necessarily feel like we're quite in that territory
Speaker 2: just yet, but there you go. New Nickelback coming out
Speaker 2: in October, and then also on the new album announcement
Speaker 2: front September, the twenty fifth Noctool, which is Serena Cherry
Speaker 2: coming up to formally being a star Bard. I suppose
Speaker 2: they're in there sort of last months as a band
Speaker 2: right now, aren't they. But the second Noctual album, which
Speaker 2: is her black metal elden Ring Slash Skyrim themed.
Speaker 1: About saying elden Ring has supplanted Skyrim as the fancy
Speaker 1: RPG game that all the black metals are all about
Speaker 1: now and I support it. There you go.
Speaker 2: But the second album from that project is going to
Speaker 2: be coming out on September the twenty fish. You're self
Speaker 2: releasing it as well, so good for her looking forward
Speaker 2: to that. Napalm Death have made history by becoming the
Speaker 2: first grindcore band, maybe the first of more extreme metal band.
Speaker 1: I don't know.
Speaker 2: I don't go through the archives, but certainly they've been
Speaker 2: labeled as the first ground core band to play a
Speaker 2: NPR Tiny Desk concert, Which is a sentence that sounds
Speaker 2: like it's been going around the sort of social media
Speaker 2: for years as a meme, right, like the idea of
Speaker 2: what would be the most absurd one to happen, and
Speaker 2: the name like the average kind of extreme metal name
Speaker 2: that first comes into your mind. Who are like a
Speaker 2: flagship of like you know music noise, Napalm Death come
Speaker 2: to mind, which I suppose is why NPR have like
Speaker 2: made the effort being like if we are going to
Speaker 2: get a full and extreme band because they had that
Speaker 2: turnstile doing it last year. Who I think they made
Speaker 2: history as doing the first NPR tiny desk stage dive
Speaker 2: of that kind of thing, but going full on extreme
Speaker 2: music having Napalm Death as your first one is like
Speaker 2: the I don't know, It's just there's perfection to it,
Speaker 2: isn't it.
Speaker 1: It feels right. I've no chance to watch the whole
Speaker 1: video yet, but Napalm de Tied Death Concert is just
Speaker 1: such a funny collection of words, but it kind of
Speaker 1: just feels like, yeah, it should be Napalm Deaf. It
Speaker 1: should be a band who have been that pivotal to
Speaker 1: the development of like extreme noisy, harsh grind core, all
Speaker 1: that sort of stuff, and not just grind core, but
Speaker 1: just again like extreme noise music. It should be a
Speaker 1: band like that who I've been at the forefront of
Speaker 1: it for so long getting their flowers goes off, being
Speaker 1: the Troilblazers. They are again to do the first tiny
Speaker 1: Desk concert.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have watched it and a few points. First
Speaker 2: of all, the mixing on it, I imagine must have
Speaker 2: been extremely difficult to do because it's Napalm Death. They're
Speaker 2: not fucking changing what they they're doing, right, They're not
Speaker 2: doing the Catacombs stripped down accus thing. They're playing like
Speaker 2: Napalm Death, right, But they are in like a small
Speaker 2: office setting, so they can't like just turn it up
Speaker 2: to garbled noise, you know, and that genuary. The mixing
Speaker 2: job of making it like sound like Napalm Death but
Speaker 2: at almost quieter volume somehow is like I imagine it
Speaker 2: must have been a serious tightrope to walk, so fair
Speaker 2: play there. And the thing is seeing Barney using a
Speaker 2: microphone that is cemented onto a mic stand is weird
Speaker 2: as fuck because you can see him like gearing up
Speaker 2: to do his run. I've never seen him, yeah, I've
Speaker 2: never seen him use a stationary micro before. And you
Speaker 2: can see him kind of in the spotty standing on
Speaker 2: sort of antsy, you know, running around like in a
Speaker 2: tiny little like a like a tiny animal in a cage, right,
Speaker 2: but then having to come back to this like actual
Speaker 2: microhone stand each time. I imagine it would be a
Speaker 2: very surreal experience. For him, but you know they kill
Speaker 2: it because of course they do, and yes they do
Speaker 2: death yeah, and yes they do end the set on
Speaker 2: you suffer. So there you go. A few more Neurosis
Speaker 2: shows have been added up to this point since their
Speaker 2: new album and come back and everything. The only show
Speaker 2: that we had confirmed was their performance at Fire in
Speaker 2: the Mountains festival, which is happening sort of roughly round
Speaker 2: about now, wish sort of middle of this month. I
Speaker 2: think it might be this weekend. I'm not sure, but
Speaker 2: the first shows after that festival have been announced, and
Speaker 2: it's only three shows right now, all in America, but
Speaker 2: it is two nights at the San Francisco Filmore on
Speaker 2: October sixteenth and seventeenth, which I imagine would be just incredible.
Speaker 2: And speaking of on September the fifth, so a little
Speaker 2: bit before those shows, they have been invited to, I
Speaker 2: guess be the sort of special guest to Acid Bath
Speaker 2: show in North Carolina, which already had the openers of
Speaker 2: Ky Leser and the Melvins. So yes, just to confirm
Speaker 2: in running order, that is Acid Bath, Neurosis, Melvin's Kylezer
Speaker 2: on a show everyone in North Carolina, fucking a. You
Speaker 2: have to get to that good lord.
Speaker 1: Acid Bath show again. These acids have continued to look
Speaker 1: ridiculous every time they pop up, and you're gonna get
Speaker 1: like playing the stage system, like there's what an acid
Speaker 1: Bath and on all that sort of shit, and now
Speaker 1: you're going to go like acid Bath and Neurosis to
Speaker 1: comebacks that seem like impossible a couple of years ago,
Speaker 1: and then they are like there they are showing stage together,
Speaker 1: fucking unbelievable. Like if you're in North Carolina and you're
Speaker 1: not going to that, what are you doing? Yeah?
Speaker 2: I mean even the fact that acid Bath are the
Speaker 2: bigger logo headlining over Neurosis, Like if you show that
Speaker 2: to someone five years ago, it would have been like, what,
Speaker 2: how the fuck has that happened? And it does make
Speaker 2: sense because acid Bath, I think, in terms of tickets
Speaker 2: right now, and I probably streaming numbers would assume as well,
Speaker 2: the bigger draw because of everything that we've you know,
Speaker 2: discussed at length with acid Bath, this particular show is
Speaker 2: obviously acid Bath. I mean famously acid Bath have been
Speaker 2: kind of hand curating and hand picking their support for
Speaker 2: all their shows, and they've obviously gone, well, this show,
Speaker 2: why don't we just invite Neurosis because you're available. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I bet that these guys have some kind of history,
Speaker 2: you know, existing in the scene together. So I think
Speaker 2: it is a special one off show. But Lead Neurosis
Speaker 2: is main support Acid Bar fucking crazy. Here he is
Speaker 2: hopen that you know, they are of course still in
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six right now, but here is hoping we
Speaker 2: have moren euro of the shows announced by next year,
Speaker 2: we could have something on this side of the pond
Speaker 2: to look forward to and celebrate. We do right now
Speaker 2: at the very six we have an Unpeople tour. I
Speaker 2: don't know if that's necessarily a stand in for Neurosis,
Speaker 2: but I'm sure a lot of people will be excited
Speaker 2: for an other People UK and Ireland headlines tour happening
Speaker 2: in January of twenty twenty seven. Is about nine or
Speaker 2: ten dates here or up and down the country and
Speaker 2: again over to Ireland as well. So good for them
Speaker 2: playing the Electric Ballroom in London, which I imagine is them,
Speaker 2: you know, sort of climbing up the venue ladder a
Speaker 2: little bit after their album comes out. And unfortunately some
Speaker 2: sad news this week coming from the Nocturnus camp, the
Speaker 2: general the death metal world I think has been a
Speaker 2: little bit in mourning for the past couple of days
Speaker 2: because one of those ediosyncratic early days cult legends has
Speaker 2: left us in Mike Browning, who was I think perhaps
Speaker 2: the original drummer of Morbid Angel. He performed on you know,
Speaker 2: some of their most legendary, you know, genre defining early
Speaker 2: demo material. This includes the Abominations of Desolation sort of
Speaker 2: mini sort of demo album they did that was meant
Speaker 2: to come out before it was of Madness, and there
Speaker 2: are many people out there for whom that is their
Speaker 2: you know, Morbid Angel record that they will talk about
Speaker 2: a choice, even though it's not officially a studio album.
Speaker 2: And then, after his departure from Morbid Angel, formed the
Speaker 2: very very weird death metal band Nocturnus, who right there
Speaker 2: again at the sort of late eighties dawn of the nineties,
Speaker 2: were one of the very first death metal bands to
Speaker 2: include synthesizers and keyboards as a major frontal element, full
Speaker 2: on sci fi themes and stuff like that, very ahead
Speaker 2: of the curve when we're talking about you know, sort
Speaker 2: of spacey, proggy, cosmic death metal and some of the
Speaker 2: stuff that's all the rage today. It's no surprise that
Speaker 2: you've seen people from bandside Blood and Cantation and so
Speaker 2: on posting major tributes to Mike Browning because he's truly
Speaker 2: one of the pioneers. Unfortunately escapes my mind who I
Speaker 2: saw this run, but one of the several tributes that
Speaker 2: have you come across my timeline in the past couple
Speaker 2: of days, I saw someone saying that Mike Browning was
Speaker 2: one of the people who first imagined that death metal
Speaker 2: could be something more than just what we naturally assume
Speaker 2: death metal to be. And in again that kind of
Speaker 2: sticking truth that underground path one of the real outsider
Speaker 2: sort of visionaries of the death metal scene, to absolutely
Speaker 2: a major duffin of the cap to mister Mike Browning
Speaker 2: from morb An Angel and nocturn Us. Let us move
Speaker 2: on to I suppose the meat of this show. We
Speaker 2: have the release roundup. First of all, I will quickly
Speaker 2: say that over on the Patreon Rare Occasion actually as
Speaker 2: it's going out on Friday, you have two shows to
Speaker 2: listen to you right now, because also on Friday, as
Speaker 2: this goes out, there should also be over on the
Speaker 2: Patreon the final part of our corn special going live
Speaker 2: on the same day if you hop over there. All
Speaker 2: right now there will be part four of the Corn
Speaker 2: Band special that have we been doing for the last
Speaker 2: three months or so, wrapping it all up with this
Speaker 2: final part bringing us up to the present day. We
Speaker 2: have looked over all things Corn right from the beginning
Speaker 2: ending now on their legacy, we have the unenviable task
Speaker 2: of ranking all like fourteen of their records at the
Speaker 2: end of this to do as well. But that is
Speaker 2: over there right now at patron dot com slash That's
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Speaker 2: Releases for this week in July. First up, there's actually
Speaker 2: one from from last week, but it was a surprise release,
Speaker 2: so I just throw it out now. Final Resting Place,
Speaker 2: who are the sort of full on, sloppy, toilet brittle
Speaker 2: death metal band who have primarily become beloved not in
Speaker 2: the death metal world, but actually in the hardcore world.
Speaker 2: They surprise released an album of there is called Third
Speaker 2: World Tribunal. And because given what I've just sort of
Speaker 2: described there, it was of no surprise to me that
Speaker 2: the first thing I heard about this was from Your
Speaker 2: End Sam being like a surprise Final Resting Place album.
Speaker 1: Yeah, No, I was gonna, oh, I was just going
Speaker 1: for new releases and it kind of I was like, oh, oh, yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm down for some like hardcore leaning Brital death metal
Speaker 1: with an insane snare tone. And that's kind of what
Speaker 1: I got. Like good stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I didn't realize until I think it was last
Speaker 2: week when we were doing the Devil Master album announcement
Speaker 2: that a member of Devilmaster plays in Final Resting Plays.
Speaker 2: I think they'd like share sha Actually yeah, I think
Speaker 2: they share like a bassist or or something like that.
Speaker 2: But there is someone else in both of those flands.
Speaker 2: But there you go, there's a connection. Let's get into properly.
Speaker 2: The releases that are coming out today this Friday, the seventeenth,
Speaker 2: the most long awaited of them and certainly a record
Speaker 2: that we will be getting our teeth into come the
Speaker 2: next review show, which should be next week, really is
Speaker 2: Loathes long awaited next album, A Stranger to You, their
Speaker 2: first album in six years, one of the most just
Speaker 2: all eyes on them metal core bands of the last
Speaker 2: decade or so, really and definitely the most long awaited
Speaker 2: album that they have put out to date, so it's
Speaker 2: time to time to get into it and see what
Speaker 2: will make of it and make your mind up. We
Speaker 2: also have from that well, I suppose the metal core
Speaker 2: world is the genre that is dominated today's releases, mostly
Speaker 2: because we also have a band that we don't really like,
Speaker 2: but one of the biggest bands in that genre over
Speaker 2: the modern day upon a time. Yeah, Motionless in White
Speaker 2: is referring to their new album Decade. We covered a
Speaker 2: couple of singles from it, there you Go, that's out
Speaker 2: and also an up and comer band and a record
Speaker 2: that has had you know, certain amount of type put
Speaker 2: on it. Boundaries as the name of this band and
Speaker 2: their album Yearning the Unbeautiful After Sam, I don't know
Speaker 2: if we're going to talk about this one or not. Again,
Speaker 2: we've got quite a lot of medical albums to be
Speaker 2: talking about right now in hardcore albums as well. But
Speaker 2: whereas what's your you know again ahead of hearing the
Speaker 2: album right now, what is your sort of general stance
Speaker 2: on Boundaries?
Speaker 1: I really like I think have been their debut album
Speaker 1: that was from a couple of years a guy I
Speaker 1: remember really liking, and then this album definitely feels like
Speaker 1: there play it something slightly bigger on like that sounds
Speaker 1: a bigger label now, And after that controversial single where
Speaker 1: they had to release a new version of a different mix, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it feels like there's obviously a lot of eyes on
Speaker 1: boundaries where they're they're on those metical band to come
Speaker 1: from the metallic hardcore side of things, who are now
Speaker 1: really crossing over into the kind of more octane core
Speaker 1: commercial metal course sort of thing. And this feel was
Speaker 1: like an how almost like bridge the gaps from the two.
Speaker 1: I'm curious as to how it's going to play out.
Speaker 2: Yes, then in the kind of the proggy side of
Speaker 2: that's world, I suppose we have the return of Protest
Speaker 2: the Hero with their album Within. Then we have got
Speaker 2: a self titled album career defining I'm sure from as
Speaker 2: it is, those useless pop punk merchants.
Speaker 1: But there you go.
Speaker 2: In I know, a better side of the punk world.
Speaker 2: The Mendingers have got their new album Everything I Ever
Speaker 2: Saw obviously always cause for celebration around these parts. The
Speaker 2: new Mensingers album. We're talking about that of course, post
Speaker 2: hardcore visionaries, you know, early pioneers of that world, Quicksand
Speaker 2: have got their new album Bring on the Psychics. I
Speaker 2: don't know if we will have room to review this one,
Speaker 2: but where have you generally sort of stood on like
Speaker 2: latter day recent Quick Sland. I suppose I've not ever.
Speaker 1: Been massing into this latter day stuff. It's still solid enough,
Speaker 1: but like their nineties output is why I kind of
Speaker 1: like really live with quicksand maybe I'll kind of revisit
Speaker 1: some of those latter albums and see if my opinion change.
Speaker 1: But they never grabbed me as much as when I
Speaker 1: discovered Quick Sad and really got into those nineties records.
Speaker 2: Yeah, fair enough, but there you go. Of course, legends
Speaker 2: in that world, then more in the death metal side
Speaker 2: of the hardcore world. I suppose that you know, bridging
Speaker 2: those two worlds. Fuming Mouth with the Ringing Bell who
Speaker 2: also a reminder for this record of recruited J Weinberger,
Speaker 2: formerly of course on the drums. Then we have a
Speaker 2: sort of collab album between a band called fed Ash
Speaker 2: and also Hers aka the Hers Collective Great Grindcore Power.
Speaker 2: That's type band who we've spoken about before. They've got
Speaker 2: a colab record together called I Am Body Horror. Then,
Speaker 2: as we venture fully into the death metal underground, we
Speaker 2: have Left to Die, which is a band consisting of
Speaker 2: like several people who were once in the band Death.
Speaker 2: It's one of those several like Death tribute bands that's
Speaker 2: been going around. But here they seem to have like
Speaker 2: actually recorded in a studio form. I think, like really
Speaker 2: early years Death demos, like Mantas era songs and stuff
Speaker 2: like that, but I know, giving them a new spit
Speaker 2: of Polish. If you want to hear that, then that
Speaker 2: record is called Initium Mortis Australian tech Death longer in
Speaker 2: about At this point, Psycroptic have got the Pulse of
Speaker 2: Annihilation back in the UK, I've got a more homegrown
Speaker 2: thrash metal band. We've got Imperium with Exodus Unknown, Flemish
Speaker 2: experimental gothy black metal band Emptiness got a couple of
Speaker 2: really good records at band Emptiness Nowhere Speaks is the
Speaker 2: name with their new one, and then a couple of EPs.
Speaker 2: There's the prog band Haken with Inner Fever Dream and
Speaker 2: the UK sort of you know industrial modern metal type
Speaker 2: band Red Method with as in Life. So that is
Speaker 2: what is out today. But we are really here mainly
Speaker 2: for the rest of the episode to talk about all
Speaker 2: things bringing it back twenty years to the anniversary that
Speaker 2: we never saw coming in terms of having any sort
Speaker 2: of celebration for it. But we've gone over all of that.
Speaker 2: We've had a couple months of knowing about bringing the
Speaker 2: horizons Count Your Blessings plans. We have done a album club,
Speaker 2: you know, back on the original form of that record
Speaker 2: and looking forward, you know, looking into that record appeal,
Speaker 2: I suppose, and just acknowledging how surreal it is that
Speaker 2: twenty years of Count Your Blessings, that record has gone
Speaker 2: from a like quite maligned thing in many many circles
Speaker 2: to now having this absolute gushing loving for it from
Speaker 2: both band who seems to reject it at times in
Speaker 2: their career and you know press, who I'm sure would
Speaker 2: have lambasted it at some point, like everyone's just coming ah,
Speaker 2: you know, time heels all wounds, We're gonna be okay,
Speaker 2: got your blessings now. But they last week they put
Speaker 2: out the re recorded titled The Repented Version of the album.
Speaker 2: That album also features a new song you know, recall
Speaker 2: it sort of in you know, more than bring Me
Speaker 2: sort of style of at least trying to revive a
Speaker 2: little bit of death cord to it and we had
Speaker 2: last weekend, the against sponsored by Outbreak, full on no barrier.
Speaker 2: As with Outbreak, you know, set up the Horizon shows
Speaker 2: playing first of all the entirety of County of Blessings,
Speaker 2: then as we'll get onto some other stuff as well,
Speaker 2: and featuring a whole lineup of other bands coming along
Speaker 2: with them. So we're gonna spend an hour or so
Speaker 2: talking about just generally our feelings on all of that,
Speaker 2: because we did go to those shows. You Sam, were
Speaker 2: at the Friday There were two nights at the BC
Speaker 2: Arena in London in Manchester. Yes it was the outside
Speaker 2: car park bit obviously if you went to Outbreak proper,
Speaker 2: that's where the mainstay was. You went to the Friday one.
Speaker 2: I went the following day on the Saturday. We can
Speaker 2: sort of feel in each other's you know, yeah whatever,
Speaker 2: I think roughly the same things will have happened, but
Speaker 2: you know, different different moments here and there standing out
Speaker 2: or going one way or another.
Speaker 1: But this turned out to be a.
Speaker 2: A really warm, cracking occasion, I thought, like considering there
Speaker 2: was a lot of particularly after Outbreak itself, and there
Speaker 2: was some of the discourse around all, you know, the
Speaker 2: kind of crowds and behavior and all this kind of stuff.
Speaker 2: There was a lot of like, oh my god, wait
Speaker 2: till two weeks time when they bring me fan to
Speaker 2: Rave turned out to be just a.
Speaker 1: Really like lovely quite special then Yeah, I mean I
Speaker 1: think what I was said that front, there was a
Speaker 1: lot of effort put into letting people know and we'll
Speaker 1: get onto that with the sort of stuff of that
Speaker 1: bring Me show as well. But like even before the
Speaker 1: sort of the videos all that there was emphasis on
Speaker 1: there is no barrier, guys, don't camp out of the front.
Speaker 1: This is like you're not going to survive, like and
Speaker 1: I think like they clearly were trying to sort of
Speaker 1: be known beforehand to try and minimize risks. I'm sure
Speaker 1: there were you know, bumps and knocks picked up for
Speaker 1: maybe at the front and stage divers like as were,
Speaker 1: but it didn't seem to be discourse causing nightmare scenario
Speaker 1: that a lot of people were kind of like because
Speaker 1: my being with the show was I was like, this
Speaker 1: is going to be like a generational all timer like
Speaker 1: one off, like two off sort of show, but like
Speaker 1: you were fucking there for it, or it's going to
Speaker 1: be a disaster of like well, we're not trying that again,
Speaker 1: and I'm so glad that largely it seemed to be
Speaker 1: the former.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, I think, you know, considering like I said, some
Speaker 2: of the stuff we're dicussing about main Outbreak turned out
Speaker 2: to be better than that in terms of just sort
Speaker 2: of running smooth like I suppose, and also just then
Speaker 2: the vibes because you know, we're gonna go through all
Speaker 2: the bands we saw, particularly by obviously Bring Me Set,
Speaker 2: it had become really something to remember, like we will
Speaker 2: all remember if you were there, but even just from
Speaker 2: the beginning looking around and like some of the fucking
Speaker 2: scene fits that were rocking around Manchester on on that weekend,
Speaker 2: like we're hair spray like we haven't seen in in
Speaker 2: some some years, Fucking Neon purple shirts with like skeleton
Speaker 2: Monster hands over the titties, Like that's that's the full, uh,
Speaker 2: you know, revival of style that not everybody, but certainly
Speaker 2: some people are like, wow, I don't know if you've
Speaker 2: dressed up for the occasion or if you were just always.
Speaker 1: Singing that much. Yeah, Like I've not seen that much
Speaker 1: Neon eggings. I think it's a mixture of like some
Speaker 1: people throwing it back some people have about that phase,
Speaker 1: and to be fair, it quiet has been happening, is
Speaker 1: that that neon scene revival thing has been creeping into
Speaker 1: newer generations. They are looking back at that kind of going, wow,
Speaker 1: wasn't that a cool time. I'm gonna start dressing like
Speaker 1: that now. And I'm just like, oh, bless you, Like
Speaker 1: this is misguided, but bless you for thinking that this
Speaker 1: fashion nightmare was actually cool.
Speaker 2: Yeah, So I think we're sort of gonna fly a
Speaker 2: little bit through you know, the other bands who played,
Speaker 2: then we'll talk a little bit about the actual record record,
Speaker 2: and then we'll talk about bringing these main set. So
Speaker 2: it started off with the date we would describe, and
Speaker 2: you know, from the whole the presentation of the poster
Speaker 2: and everything, how right it felt in terms of, like,
Speaker 2: you know, getting the mood of it right, in terms
Speaker 2: of a genuine celebration of that you know, two thousand
Speaker 2: and six type yeah moment. That's not to say that
Speaker 2: every single band here is an oldie, because obviously quite
Speaker 2: a few of them were newer bands, but just even
Speaker 2: the way the poster, like we're saying we're sort of
Speaker 2: throwing back and stuff, it felt like, you know, the
Speaker 2: presentation of it was right, and that was certainly the
Speaker 2: case with the very first band on being Still in Love,
Speaker 2: which is a you know, a newer UK hardcore band.
Speaker 2: They really said, David, I think last year, but the
Speaker 2: band last year. Yeah, yeah, but that out band does
Speaker 2: feature Curtis Ward, who was the other member of Being
Speaker 2: the Horizon, Cirki count Your Blessings the other guitarists on
Speaker 2: that record. So even just the fact that I know
Speaker 2: that there have been shows in the past where they've
Speaker 2: invited him off on stage and stuff like that that
Speaker 2: didn't happen. But just the fact that he was there
Speaker 2: present on the bill as part of the you know,
Speaker 2: the day celebrating the record that he helped write. It
Speaker 2: was just one of those immediate like yeah, this is
Speaker 2: we're doing this the right way, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean, like you know, it's not just Curtsward,
Speaker 1: that's members of like Dead Swans, Brutality will prevail, yeah,
Speaker 1: last weitkness. Like if you like, if you were into
Speaker 1: UK hardcore or the turn of the two twenty tens,
Speaker 1: you'll have seen and liked being fans of the bands
Speaker 1: that make up Still in Love and as a sound
Speaker 1: they are just such a throwback to that particular thing.
Speaker 1: I really like them because I like Brutality Will Provail
Speaker 1: and Last Witness and Dead Swans, and they're doing that
Speaker 1: sort of thing like and that they do really works.
Speaker 1: And they've got like a real crunchy, heavy guitar tone
Speaker 1: that raw kind of like impassioned not quite melodic hardcore,
Speaker 1: but that's slightly less kind of like tough guy match.
Speaker 1: I think that was sort of like the hardcore and
Speaker 1: I think they just they just slam that out in
Speaker 1: thirty minutes of these songs, and like, yeah, I thought,
Speaker 1: like great sort starts stay of having something that is
Speaker 1: new but of the era we're thrown back to. At
Speaker 1: the same time, it was a good way to get
Speaker 1: things going.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, emotionally heart on sleeve, but also like
Speaker 2: aggressive and like fast. I always say in the current era,
Speaker 2: whenever I hear a band doing kind of fast hardcore
Speaker 2: parts and even like throwing some blasts and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: it always it makes me happy. And uh yeah good.
Speaker 2: Seeing as was again a a very unique event of
Speaker 2: like one of the biggest like mainstream metal bands in
Speaker 2: the world taking over like a traditionally hardcore event, right,
Speaker 2: this is a good omen of like, yeah, like the
Speaker 2: straight away. The first band on the hardcore side of
Speaker 2: that is Preys and still be correct.
Speaker 1: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: There was a part when they had like a you know,
Speaker 2: a guest singer came out and she grabbed the mic
Speaker 2: and did her first and it's like, yeah, this feels
Speaker 2: like watching a hardcore show, right, even though I'm at
Speaker 2: the big you know, sponsored Bringing with the Horizon day,
Speaker 2: it felt it felt right after that was from the
Speaker 2: main stage, because they did it. Turned out I thought
Speaker 2: it was gonna just be like sort of an all
Speaker 2: day or affair on the one stage starting at like
Speaker 2: you know, one o'clock or something like that. It started
Speaker 2: like four, and it did split between two stages, which
Speaker 2: I didn't especially mind. You know, the day was shorter
Speaker 2: and less hiring for one thing. Yeah, there was a
Speaker 2: couple of clashes involved, which again I didn't especially mind
Speaker 2: too much. And then the only band I didn't see
Speaker 2: any of it was Harriet because they like basically entirely
Speaker 2: overlapped with rother To MASSI I saw like a few
Speaker 2: songs of Static Dress and then went over to see
Speaker 2: the other band who were on during that. But there's
Speaker 2: sort of two stage back and forth when outside main
Speaker 2: stage opening band was a back called shoving Teeth, who
Speaker 2: I did not know. Turns out that's a fairly reasonable
Speaker 2: thing to happen because they've only got two songs currently released.
Speaker 2: But obviously they did play a full set, so imagine
Speaker 2: as a record on the way, and this was more Again,
Speaker 2: if you watch Still in Love and he went like, yeah,
Speaker 2: they were in a hardcow environment, this feels like watching
Speaker 2: a hardcore show showing Teeth was more on the metal
Speaker 2: core side of it. But I would still say while
Speaker 2: I you know, I liked the music less than Still
Speaker 2: in Love because it was kind of, you know, after
Speaker 2: the burially heavier end of spirit Box style. You know,
Speaker 2: it's a bit of slap base even, but sort of
Speaker 2: like you know, gent ish modern metalcore. It was at
Speaker 2: least on the more abrasive, you know, more teeth appropriately
Speaker 2: sort of end of that. It wasn't like they had
Speaker 2: just slapped you know, one of the metalcal bands we
Speaker 2: hate on there. It was like, you know, a heavier,
Speaker 2: kind of gnarlier modern metical band who still fit in
Speaker 2: the flow of the event.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd say so, I mean, like I think, because
Speaker 1: it's actually it's like the project is kind of just
Speaker 1: the vocalist. I think it's her sort of project.
Speaker 2: Yeah, she is called showing teeth, but then she has
Speaker 2: musicians and like.
Speaker 1: In fairness she is like I was like, do you
Speaker 1: know what, she's a good vocalist, she's got presents, she
Speaker 1: is got that heavier vocal tone and musically like none
Speaker 1: of the songs really made. But I was kind of like,
Speaker 1: I'm with you. It wasn't totally wet synthetic like metalcore
Speaker 1: that is like I find skin plong now. I was like,
Speaker 1: this is you know, solid Jenny metalcore. There's potential there,
Speaker 1: like maybe we've got now when you've kind of got
Speaker 1: a bit more identity of your songs. But it was
Speaker 1: it didn't like bother me like Eva. I was like,
Speaker 1: you know what, fair enough of this is what your
Speaker 1: sort of real modern commercial metal representation is. It could
Speaker 1: have been a hell of a lot worse, certainly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. Fine, Then was a car underwater? Who are a
Speaker 2: new Avand I think they have a member of military
Speaker 2: gun in there, which feels I know, I guess, you know,
Speaker 2: do whatever you want, but it feels like a jump
Speaker 2: away from military gun because this is much more full
Speaker 2: on like you're wearing and I promised the world T
Speaker 2: shirt right now, and it sort of seems to fit
Speaker 2: in that kind of style of like this is so
Speaker 2: full on MySpace style stuff, not even as heavy as
Speaker 2: about it I promised to well, because it's much more
Speaker 2: like genuine singing. They have like the two the classic
Speaker 2: the two singers. You know, they've got a screamer and
Speaker 2: a singer, but like full on, fucking high pitch vocal
Speaker 2: two thousand and five MySpace emo, you know what I mean.
Speaker 1: Yeah, even when i's a bit of like they used
Speaker 1: points like that, is that kind of like that that
Speaker 1: sort of melodic but slightly scrappy emo with a touch postagle.
Speaker 1: I enjoyed it. I'm they're not my favorite of these
Speaker 1: from like seeing revival bands, but at the same time,
Speaker 1: I kind of am just kind of down to go
Speaker 1: with this sort of thing. I think like they've got
Speaker 1: some really well basically go really melodic and sort of
Speaker 1: that they're they're some of the things that give them
Speaker 1: a bit more n more from the other kind of
Speaker 1: like my Space metal Coourse sort of revival stuff. But yeah,
Speaker 1: I thought again, if you if you're you're female, there
Speaker 1: around throwing back to two thousand and six, bringing along
Speaker 1: one of the part of this whole revival movement that's
Speaker 1: going on. It makes sense to have one of these.
Speaker 1: And then we had I promise sort of outbreak car
Speaker 1: under Water from a new one who again getting some attention.
Speaker 1: They seem to fit the bill.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I agree with that because I think this was
Speaker 2: the band who maybe musically I enjoyed least of the
Speaker 2: day because.
Speaker 1: It shocked me because it's it's yeah pure, it.
Speaker 2: Was too wet for me, you ironically, but I thought
Speaker 2: the same thing in terms of, even though it's not
Speaker 2: an older band, if we are, you know, this is
Speaker 2: a love letter of two thousand and six, right the bill,
Speaker 2: even though we're primarily we'll lead towards a heavier side
Speaker 2: of what that was. And the whole scene thing. It
Speaker 2: made sense that such a scene revival type band would play,
Speaker 2: you know, this particular thing. So in a way, you know,
Speaker 2: I watched a little bit their set and I was like,
Speaker 2: you know, what, props to you keeping that you know
Speaker 2: that side of the scene alive. Good for you. After that, again,
Speaker 2: the clashes started to happen a little bit. Oh no,
Speaker 2: it was dying Wish before.
Speaker 1: That point, Harriet Dying Wision to Harriett were like right
Speaker 1: at the same time.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mixed up, sorry with the running up, but anyway, yea,
Speaker 2: So Harriet were playing on the Insoor stage. I didn't
Speaker 2: see any of them. They are Harriet, so they'll be
Speaker 2: around next week, you know.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm sure that was my logic as well.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that they put on a good set and
Speaker 2: you know, prop to them, but that you know that
Speaker 2: they're about Dying Wish. I had not actually seen Dying
Speaker 2: Wish before because they kept touring with worst bands and
Speaker 2: playing the bad festival bills.
Speaker 1: They did play with Malevolent. She could have you could
Speaker 1: have gone to Manchester Simil with Malevolence last year. Oh
Speaker 1: that was on one that was during fucking Damnation though,
Speaker 1: wasn't it of course?
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, so no I couldn't. Actually, so this was
Speaker 2: my first time actually seeing Dying Wish and they are
Speaker 2: definitely one of my favorites of the last like you know,
Speaker 2: five years whatever of newer metalcore bands. So happy to
Speaker 2: see them. I know that you obviously are you know,
Speaker 2: a bigger Mira of them as well, and I thought
Speaker 2: they killed it in terms of coming out and being
Speaker 2: you know, living up to maybe having a bit of
Speaker 2: a reputation of being one of the nastier bands, even
Speaker 2: though they had such a large proponent of melody in
Speaker 2: there and that really came across well as well. But
Speaker 2: you know, arriving on this Cat Your Blessings day and
Speaker 2: Emma was fucking like just grinning with like razor sharp
Speaker 2: teeth and high kicking everywhere, ripping into what are some
Speaker 2: of the more scathing, you know, metalcore songs to be
Speaker 2: released of Like I had had a great time seeing
Speaker 2: Dying Wish for the first time.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean they lead into the sort of the
Speaker 1: nastier end of their sound obviously, like the new album
Speaker 1: has some of their biggest choruses, but it's also got
Speaker 1: some of their like dirtiest, meanest music. But even the
Speaker 1: older stuff they did, I think they were like this
Speaker 1: is we want people moshing. We are for the moshas
Speaker 1: Like on the fraise, everyone's were like be dazzled, cowboy
Speaker 1: boots or high kicking in them. I was like, fucking yes, girl,
Speaker 1: Like I thought they were brilliant. This is my second
Speaker 1: time seeing them, and I think they're just they're so confrontational,
Speaker 1: like the rest of the band are constantly berating the
Speaker 1: crowd to mosh harder. Emma's sort of like stalking that stage,
Speaker 1: owning it and again just being so antagonistic. But then
Speaker 1: when those choruses hit, they're so big, and I think
Speaker 1: the around which is like the leads on the last
Speaker 1: time that so that chorus is huge coming off the
Speaker 1: back of just how like nasty and crushing the rest
Speaker 1: of the song is. I mean, that's the sort of
Speaker 1: that's the thing Dan, which is they are the melodic
Speaker 1: bits are bigger and better because everything else is so
Speaker 1: much more sort of hateful and nasty and that and
Speaker 1: that's why the things can make to so well. I
Speaker 1: think that they are of the sort of the modern
Speaker 1: Elkle band. They are so clearly one of my favorites.
Speaker 1: I thought they crushed it. They you know, came on
Speaker 1: half an hour and just sort of bullied the crowd
Speaker 1: into moshing harder than anyone else had so far this day,
Speaker 1: and then just left and was like, yeah, job done.
Speaker 2: Yeah, because they played was it Coward's Feed Coward Bleed?
Speaker 2: Whether that song was called from the first album, and
Speaker 2: I wish, I wish I had gotten to them around
Speaker 2: the first album because like I want to hear like
Speaker 2: Innate first, and you know, the title track and some
Speaker 2: of the songs I like the same from that first album. This,
Speaker 2: I wouldn't necessarily say that it was like my favorite
Speaker 2: collection of Dying Whish songs apart from I would definitely
Speaker 2: say the sort of standout singles from the latest record,
Speaker 2: because we praised the kind of the the sort of darker, meaner, sludgier,
Speaker 2: you know, doomia even side of what they're they were
Speaker 2: able to turn themselves into in there, and I thought that,
Speaker 2: you know, bringing that oppressive energy, and I also thought,
Speaker 2: I said, it's my first time seeing them live. On
Speaker 2: the singing choruses, Emma was like pitch perfect.
Speaker 1: She's like really good, She's like really come along withy
Speaker 1: as a vocalist.
Speaker 2: Legitimately, the melodies and the delivery of them sounded like
Speaker 2: almost exactly like the album, like she was not missing
Speaker 2: a beat of it at all, and that is while
Speaker 2: still you know, throwing herself into the more you know,
Speaker 2: agro hardcore parts off the beat and stuff like that.
Speaker 2: And you know, they came out and the first thing
Speaker 2: anyone said was, I think with the basis was like,
Speaker 2: this show so good, you get it twice on the
Speaker 2: second day, and it was like, yeah, it's just they
Speaker 2: they brought a really good energy to it. This is
Speaker 2: where I was saying that, you know, the classes started
Speaker 2: to go back and forth a little bit. So I
Speaker 2: saw the first like three songs of Stating Dress because
Speaker 2: obviously we spoke about Stating Dress at the main Outbreak
Speaker 2: show when they did the secret set and tried to
Speaker 2: convince everyone for a few seconds that they were title fight.
Speaker 2: This was much more normal obviously. But you know, I'd
Speaker 2: enjoyed their set Main Outbreak, and here they came out
Speaker 2: and they opened with was It Questioning and Pharmacy Film,
Speaker 2: which are two of the better songs from their you know,
Speaker 2: very good new album. So I saw those and I
Speaker 2: was like, cool, yes, good, And then I imagine I
Speaker 2: did what you also did, which is went inside for
Speaker 2: the best band on the bill. If we're being honest, yes, yeah,
Speaker 2: Rolo Tamasi. And this isn't necessarily say that they put
Speaker 2: on a better show anything. I'm just saying that I
Speaker 2: think there's an argument that when you look at the scene,
Speaker 2: that this show was maybe celebrating, right, So again the
Speaker 2: crop of British hardcore and metallic hardcore medical bands who
Speaker 2: appeared around the mid noughties with Bringing the Horizon and
Speaker 2: Architects and you know, Devil's Soldier Soul and Roller to
Speaker 2: Massy and even going through to Berry Tomorrow and While
Speaker 2: She Sleeps In. Those bands start to appear in the
Speaker 2: early twenty tens and that kind of thing. Yeah, I
Speaker 2: think there's an argument that across those twenty years the
Speaker 2: best band was Rollo to Massive.
Speaker 1: MASSI I think when you look at what that band
Speaker 1: had gone on to do the last two albums, how
Speaker 1: just like unbelievably and that the way they've sort of
Speaker 1: grown and defied genres and something like, they are just
Speaker 1: one of the greatest of UK metal bands of the
Speaker 1: of the twenty first century without a doubt.
Speaker 2: Yeah, And so it really got see him on this bill.
Speaker 2: There's a story that James related from the stage where
Speaker 2: their first ever show was opening for Bring Me because
Speaker 2: they're both originally from Sheffield and the sort of Sheffield area,
Speaker 2: so their first ever show it makes you know, it's
Speaker 2: so right again for the old head stuck going to
Speaker 2: have them together there, even if you know, I think
Speaker 2: they're obviously the band who the younger and new were
Speaker 2: more kind of you know, radio rock cleaning. Bring Me
Speaker 2: fans would have maybe the least connection an interest with
Speaker 2: I think it was still right that they appear on
Speaker 2: that bill. They also play here a little bit less
Speaker 2: than they maybe used to, because I think Eva lives
Speaker 2: in America, so there's you know, sort of flying back
Speaker 2: and forth and stuff like that. And I think it's
Speaker 2: been like sort of three four years, like basically since
Speaker 2: the album you know tour they did for the latest record,
Speaker 2: since Rollo you know appeared in the UK, and you're
Speaker 2: gonna take that chance to go in and see them.
Speaker 2: And we were talking a little bit about whether Rolo
Speaker 2: would follow suit with Bring Me and go full on
Speaker 2: retro with it and bring back the Nintendo core and
Speaker 2: do the crazy, you know, wild early wacky mathcore stuff
Speaker 2: of their early years and really throw it to two
Speaker 2: thousand and six. They didn't do that. Maybe some people
Speaker 2: were slightly disappointed by that, but what they did do
Speaker 2: is essentially prove why they are, as we have just said,
Speaker 2: arguably the still best band of yeah that crop, because
Speaker 2: coming out and playing basically all songs from the last
Speaker 2: two albums as well as that EP that they put
Speaker 2: out that last year just for you know, fifty to
Speaker 2: sixty minutes. It did depend on the fucking day. I
Speaker 2: don't know if you want extra song compared.
Speaker 1: To what we got. Why I cut out on the
Speaker 1: last song actually to get a spot for bring Me
Speaker 1: because it was like cutting fine and everyone was like
Speaker 1: the crowd is shoes.
Speaker 2: I had to find my mate, so I did so.
Speaker 2: I probably saw you look at the set list, it
Speaker 2: does look like we've got the same thing. But essentially,
Speaker 2: like I said, the last ten years of Rollo inside
Speaker 2: an hour, fucking treat Yes, brilliant, always, always.
Speaker 1: Unbelievable band like that. They they were slightly misfortunate of
Speaker 1: like I mean again, because they haven't translated to the
Speaker 1: younger fans. They are the cult band on the lineup.
Speaker 1: They did pull by far the smallest crowd on that day.
Speaker 2: It was really funny though, looking around and seeing a
Speaker 2: all the slightly older people on site, like everyone who's
Speaker 2: grown a beard appearing, but also all the people in
Speaker 2: the coolest shirts, Like if you looked around and anyone
Speaker 2: who was like who was wearing a black netull shirt
Speaker 2: or like a post rock shirt or something like that
Speaker 2: they were all the people who made the way to
Speaker 2: see I was like, ah, yes, the Damnation attendees that.
Speaker 1: The we're the people who have accumulated. Yeah, no, absolutely,
Speaker 1: And I was like I was like, you know what whatever,
Speaker 1: because they were fucking majestic, Like the sort of the
Speaker 1: screen behind them were like the images and the way
Speaker 1: it kind of silhouetted the band so at times when
Speaker 1: it was like just dancing as like a shadow across
Speaker 1: the stage looked amazing, sounded amazing. Aftermath, when they go
Speaker 1: full on dream pop is like that is one of
Speaker 1: my favorite my songs. I mean, he's just absolutely beautiful.
Speaker 1: But when they go heavy, just wind of like just
Speaker 1: how much they cross and even when they're doing somethings
Speaker 1: that have you know on some of those where they
Speaker 1: have somethings that had that almost like some more gent riffing.
Speaker 1: At times they just sound so much more explosive and
Speaker 1: exciting coming from a bad like relad to MASSI You're
Speaker 1: watching them on the stage and like when James and
Speaker 1: up but then he's like flying on the seas like
Speaker 1: they're just so exciting to watch. It was like a
Speaker 1: genuine kind of just like awe, inspiring, Like, yeah, we
Speaker 1: should get Dad to massive around more. But when we
Speaker 1: do get him, it is an absolute trait because they are,
Speaker 1: like I say, just majestic.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I love just seeing you know, the
Speaker 2: two siblings, right Eva and James and James you're playing keyboard.
Speaker 2: But then there are the songs, but he'll come out
Speaker 2: to the front and still those are the moments where
Speaker 2: he's so good. Yeah, but I mean it's the same
Speaker 2: we were when we did the album Club on Hysterics.
Speaker 2: We were talking about like some of those early, really
Speaker 2: early videos of like Teenage World to MASSI that still
Speaker 2: kind of circle around the Internet, and it's this like
Speaker 2: assault of you know, particularly these two siblings on either
Speaker 2: side going fucking at it and then watching on stage
Speaker 2: those same two people, their older, wiser, right, but you know,
Speaker 2: the just the the innate connection that they have obviously
Speaker 2: as siblings, and seeing them still up there fucking crushing
Speaker 2: it together, like it's really it filled me with warmth,
Speaker 2: you know, like it's it's lovely and it's inspiring. There
Speaker 2: was even a brilliant bit where because on the Saturday
Speaker 2: it was a little bit painful to talk about it
Speaker 2: right now, but on the Saturday. It was right before
Speaker 2: the previous England game against I can't forget who it
Speaker 2: was now who we last played, but there you go.
Speaker 2: And at the very very end, Eva just went and
Speaker 2: come on England and James was wearing an England shirt.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if it's just a thing that
Speaker 2: either that was out of character fa or something, but
Speaker 2: there was this brilliant moment where James and her after
Speaker 2: said that sort of locked eyes and he just like
Speaker 2: laughed at it. Was like, I don't know, against sort
Speaker 2: of out of style moment, but it's just the spirit
Speaker 2: was real, really there for it. And I will say,
Speaker 2: obviously all the heavy stuff so fucking intense aftermath totally agreed.
Speaker 2: Like the biggest sing along of the day at least
Speaker 2: from my lungs was that but a flood of Light
Speaker 2: in the middle. I actually like it. It got me
Speaker 2: like it, like I started welling, you know, like it
Speaker 2: just the magical song, the beauty of that, the synth.
Speaker 2: I just thought on this day at least, particularly that
Speaker 2: song was just fucking stunning. And yeah, I mean the
Speaker 2: elder contingent maybe got a really you know, great valued
Speaker 2: Rotherati MASSI show, but really obviously this was all about
Speaker 2: one particular event. Before we talk about the bring the set,
Speaker 2: let us talk a little bit. Obviously, we're not gonna
Speaker 2: do a full extensive album review because it's it's songs
Speaker 2: that we mostly already know. You can go, as I
Speaker 2: said here our album Club that we just released a
Speaker 2: little while ago on the Patreon talking about the original
Speaker 2: Count Your Blessings album and its history and our relationship
Speaker 2: with it or whatever very abridge versions that both of
Speaker 2: us are to something Scent or another long time Count
Speaker 2: Your Blessings appreciators, right, and yes, there was something so
Speaker 2: magical about this day in terms of thinking about that,
Speaker 2: I don't know, like ten years ago, there have been
Speaker 2: points where I've like, you know, gone to bat for
Speaker 2: Count Your Blessings and people have looked at me like
Speaker 2: what the fuck are you talking about? You absolute like
Speaker 2: you you simple minded for and then be like, look
Speaker 2: hout far we've come. Everyone's everyone's caught up. That was
Speaker 2: a really like, you know, a special tone to the
Speaker 2: day as well. So we're both fans of the record,
Speaker 2: the re recorded Repented version, and we were spaking about
Speaker 2: how fucking just weird and surreal it is that bring
Speaker 2: me would go back to, you know, bring that record
Speaker 2: of all of them the most like sloppy, violent, tinged
Speaker 2: with youthful, at times certainly problematic naivety up to you know,
Speaker 2: the modern day and what the fuck does that even
Speaker 2: sound like? I suppose we can talk a little bit
Speaker 2: again about what what it sounds like. The the re
Speaker 2: recorded version, I would say, for the most part, is
Speaker 2: fairly tasteful in the sense that they haven't like meddled
Speaker 2: too much. We were wondering, for example, whether you know
Speaker 2: certain lyrics and stuff like that, and there is an
Speaker 2: argument maybe that certain things should be changed. They have
Speaker 2: gone down the route of like, you know, this is
Speaker 2: a reflection of who we were when we were ninety
Speaker 2: we don't want to know again, sort of tamper too
Speaker 2: heavily with you know, what that piece of art was
Speaker 2: at that time. Root of things, which again you can
Speaker 2: debate the merits of that either either way. But this
Speaker 2: rerecording I will not be going back to it over
Speaker 2: the original country blessings, I can say that much. I
Speaker 2: predicted that much straight away, because it's exceedingly rare that
Speaker 2: we feel that way, and that is particularly true when
Speaker 2: we are people maybe who value a more kind of
Speaker 2: raw live wire recording sound compared to there are several
Speaker 2: people out there who maybe want their records to be more,
Speaker 2: you know, up to the standards of kind of contemporary
Speaker 2: mechanical polish and stuff like that. So do I think
Speaker 2: this rerecording is better than the original count Your Blessings
Speaker 2: that I have loved for you know, many many years. No,
Speaker 2: I don't absolutely no chance, but I will say it
Speaker 2: is again. They haven't like, it's not a completely unrecognizable record.
Speaker 2: They have essentially just tweaked it to be like, Okay,
Speaker 2: if you are someone who does prefer these twenty twenty standards,
Speaker 2: there you go.
Speaker 1: Yeah. I my first listen was more negative than I
Speaker 1: and is she expected it to be because I was
Speaker 1: just I was like, oh no, I didn't like the
Speaker 1: sort of the more mechanized, compressed sound the bit on
Speaker 1: my first listen. And I wonder if you have had
Speaker 1: the same kind of like reaction or don't don't.
Speaker 2: Don't don't say it because I want to predict. Was
Speaker 2: it the double bass kind of last charge at the
Speaker 2: very end of Pray for Plagues?
Speaker 1: Yes, when we talk about drums like on my first
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh, no, you you when you
Speaker 1: put it throws back to when you pointed that out
Speaker 1: on the Harriot album.
Speaker 2: And I heard and I was like, I all right
Speaker 2: that We'll tell you. You know who who is creditors
Speaker 2: producing this record. It's the guy who does the Orbit
Speaker 2: Culture albums, and they have been arguably the number one
Speaker 2: offender of what I would be talking about. So it
Speaker 2: doesn't surprise me at all that that like overpowering, fucking
Speaker 2: attack helicopter double bass can sound pops up on this
Speaker 2: And again the very fight the last like you know,
Speaker 2: outro of Pray for Plagues was the moment where I
Speaker 2: did go oh a little bit and then you get
Speaker 2: which still seems to be so fucking loud, comes in
Speaker 2: at the end of that. But I while there are
Speaker 2: moments like that, I don't think it was awful. And
Speaker 2: it's to the point where if this record came out,
Speaker 2: you know, it was a brand new record and it
Speaker 2: was by let's say, like a Psycho frame or something
Speaker 2: like that, I think I'll be quite wowed by it
Speaker 2: because fundamentally is still there are you know, loads of
Speaker 2: riffs and moments and even though dare I say, songs
Speaker 2: on this that that I really really like, so and
Speaker 2: you know, while comparing these two records side by side,
Speaker 2: I do much for a further standard, the original one.
Speaker 2: That's the one that I will listen to, you know,
Speaker 2: from now on again. If someone presented me this record,
Speaker 2: he goes, here's a new death Cord band, I would
Speaker 2: be like, oh, fucking hey, this is one of the
Speaker 2: best ones I've heard in ages. So in that sense,
Speaker 2: still got.
Speaker 1: It that that's my things. Actually this says has something
Speaker 1: to me that there are songs on on count there
Speaker 1: is more than just pray for plays. Definitely that like
Speaker 1: like it's got it. The tracks are there and the
Speaker 1: things that kick drom is only really a problem for
Speaker 1: me on that final Prey for Plagues breakdown because it's
Speaker 1: so knocked up on and it's still the Elks record,
Speaker 1: but it feels a bit more kind of like less overwhelming.
Speaker 1: But I was like, these songs, these songs are there,
Speaker 1: And my thing with this is I'm like, I'm not
Speaker 1: gonna listen because I'm like, I want this Deaf Court
Speaker 1: to sound nasty and sort of bloody and and and
Speaker 1: be more can like raises sort of like the mech
Speaker 1: and I sound just doesn't do it for me as
Speaker 1: much anymore. But if this is what it takes to
Speaker 1: get people to recognize that actually calling your blessings isn't
Speaker 1: this horrid, laughable, amateurish like embarrassment of a record, I
Speaker 1: will see this re recording as a sort of necessary
Speaker 1: step to that. I don't think it's better. I don't
Speaker 1: think these songs benefit from a more modern production, but
Speaker 1: I do understand that some people are probably gonna be
Speaker 1: turned off by that original album's production, and if they
Speaker 1: have this one that is just a bit more look
Speaker 1: into what they're used to hearing now in their sort
Speaker 1: of death coren metalcore and can bring me fair enough.
Speaker 1: If that's what it's going to take, I will accept
Speaker 1: this recordings existence. It hasn't like erased the original. I
Speaker 1: still have my vinyl copy of the original that I
Speaker 1: will spin like. I will accept. The two can sort
Speaker 1: of said, I'm going to reach it. If I'm going
Speaker 1: to go for it, I'm reaching for the original. Particularly again,
Speaker 1: while I think like praised Blags, it just it does
Speaker 1: just sound better if it's got a sort of more
Speaker 1: like blood soaked tone.
Speaker 2: But those like sinewy League guitars, particularly those like spindly
Speaker 2: leagues that Le Malley are doing all over that record,
Speaker 2: the sweet picky and stuff. They're They're meant to sound
Speaker 2: that old way, you know, They're not meant to be
Speaker 2: part of this fucking, you know, blown out turbo charge thing.
Speaker 2: I think to a degree, I still think this is
Speaker 2: a I don't know, a slightly more bewildering product to exist,
Speaker 2: and I do think it's a necessary upgrade because part
Speaker 2: of me is like, do you guys like Naughty's Death
Speaker 2: Corps or not? Like everyone seems to want to throw
Speaker 2: back to that era and that aesthetic and stuff like that,
Speaker 2: but then they might not actually like how it sounds
Speaker 2: like it's a are you in? Or you are you not?
Speaker 2: You know, I know I'm in like that originally, you know.
Speaker 1: And Cat Blessings.
Speaker 2: I've never even bought the idea that the Calcabiss has
Speaker 2: bad production, Like it's these guys would never fucking handle
Speaker 2: a day with morbid visions, you know. I mean, like
Speaker 2: everything is perfectly clear on that record, like you are
Speaker 2: just weak, but you know, and it suits what it is,
Speaker 2: and it's imperfections are things that you know, mark it
Speaker 2: out as being from part of the time. And the
Speaker 2: spirit that it was it was made in. And again
Speaker 2: we go in at length on this on the album
Speaker 2: club that we did, and I do think it's a
Speaker 2: it's a violent kids and an abattoir record that they
Speaker 2: have now sort of sterilized what was once caked in gore.
Speaker 2: But like I said, if you were to present me
Speaker 2: this album and be like, do you think this is
Speaker 2: a good much better than Abreuge twenty twenty six death
Speaker 2: core album, it will agree that he heartily. Fuck yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, even the idea of them getting back in
Speaker 2: the studio to do the will bit in off the
Speaker 2: hes A is like genuinely funny, the idea that they
Speaker 2: had to go back and track that again twenty years later.
Speaker 2: But I think, you know, in a way, it almost
Speaker 2: illustrates the difference between like modern death core revival stuff
Speaker 2: and the original stuff, because again you get these bands
Speaker 2: who come through and they want thing to be like
Speaker 2: these Northeast bands, But you know, it sounds more like
Speaker 2: this than it does the original you know, the real
Speaker 2: deal stuff, you know what I mean. So again I
Speaker 2: don't think that this enterprise of rerecording this record for me,
Speaker 2: you know, not necessary, but this would definitely carry into
Speaker 2: the show as well. Ollie sounds great on it, and
Speaker 2: we were talking about, you know, the idea of him
Speaker 2: as someone who hasn't specialized in these type vocals for
Speaker 2: a long long time, having to you know, relearn the
Speaker 2: process and all of that stuff. On the actual record,
Speaker 2: going back to the gut rules and the high screens
Speaker 2: and stuff like that. It doesn't exactly sound like it
Speaker 2: did in two thousand and six, obviously, but Ollie in
Speaker 2: his current form sounds really, really fucking good. And I
Speaker 2: will say, if there's one thing about this new record
Speaker 2: that does like if it had just been the initial
Speaker 2: you know, Count your Blessings re recorded, I'll go asel waste.
Speaker 2: I'm never gonna remember that even exists. Turns out there
Speaker 2: was a new song on the end of it. And
Speaker 2: when they initially announced their cantylessing thing, and it was
Speaker 2: like a blurred out final track. Some people were like, oh,
Speaker 2: you know, will it be like, for example, the cover
Speaker 2: of Eyelists, Yeah, they did around the time of the
Speaker 2: original things. Turns out they had hidden it and blurred
Speaker 2: out because it was a brand new song added onto this,
Speaker 2: a song that's called Dehumanized, and yes, essentially it is
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six bring Me the Horizon, as they sound
Speaker 2: on the re recorded version of Cant Your Blessings, writing
Speaker 2: a song in that style, which does make it the heaviest,
Speaker 2: most brutal Bring Me the Horizon song in fucking well
Speaker 2: over fifteen years, if not twenty, you know what I mean,
Speaker 2: Like when they've done you know, we spoke about some
Speaker 2: songs like Deer Diary or everyone it's like, oh, bring
Speaker 2: the heavy again. No, no, this is actually like them
Speaker 2: genuinely in some sense at least returning to, you know,
Speaker 2: being a legitimately brutal heavy band. And yeah, this comes
Speaker 2: with a certain element of trade off in terms of
Speaker 2: it is you know, recorded and produced in the style
Speaker 2: that the rest of the album is produced with what
Speaker 2: we've just kind of said about it, But I think
Speaker 2: this song is a bit of a fucking rager, and
Speaker 2: I you know, I gave it the cursory couple of listens.
Speaker 2: I watched the music there, which is fucking cool as
Speaker 2: fuck as well when it first came out, and I thought, oh, yeah, no,
Speaker 2: that that's pretty decent. And then obviously we've now seen
Speaker 2: it live and listened to the rerecorded record more and
Speaker 2: going back to this song. These might be big words.
Speaker 2: I don't know. I think this is my favorite bring
Speaker 2: me song in something like a decade like this, I
Speaker 2: think kind of fucking goes.
Speaker 1: I Seeing it live was what unlocked the song for me,
Speaker 1: because again, the production was what I was kind of
Speaker 1: quibbling with at first. I was like, I think the
Speaker 1: song is good, I don't have that production. I was
Speaker 1: just kinda like, I don't necessarily think this is an
Speaker 1: O six death core song. It definitely is kind of
Speaker 1: like bringing Frying back to a heavier sound, and there
Speaker 1: are moments of that kind of death core thing in there,
Speaker 1: but it also has moments on modern metalcore. But it
Speaker 1: is like by far heaviest and bringing heires have done.
Speaker 1: I would go eat like to sempl I would say
Speaker 1: it's heavier than a lot of what's offered, Like even.
Speaker 2: Though we're thinking at least like suicide season.
Speaker 1: Is suicide season. There as a hell where when you
Speaker 1: put alongside long songs allegated blood, I probably say it's
Speaker 1: like the most comparable kind of like in terms of
Speaker 1: like pure like bruising brutality, that that sort of the
Speaker 1: song we're throwing back to. In terms of like this
Speaker 1: but like this is like again that from the video
Speaker 1: helps Oli is Oli and everyone is covered in blood.
Speaker 1: I'm just down the music video like I think you
Speaker 1: know where he talked about the sort of the reason
Speaker 1: behind the songs, like right, you've actually you've got a
Speaker 1: message to the song like that you've kind of like
Speaker 1: conveyed and sort of like that, and there are rifted
Speaker 1: that final breakdown. It's fucking like unbelievable again like build.
Speaker 1: Like one of our criticisms of like the heavier bringing
Speaker 1: my songs of recent years is the breakdowns have always
Speaker 1: been limp, haven't they. It's been building to the the
Speaker 1: drop riff and it's always been that same kind of
Speaker 1: limp kind of bounce up and down drop but not
Speaker 1: actually kind of like throw your fist around breakdown. And
Speaker 1: at the end of this song where they build to
Speaker 1: that final sort of like fire breakdown, you've got the
Speaker 1: sort of the humans all these things that they sound
Speaker 1: big and powerful, and I was like, I was I'm
Speaker 1: not the production, but if the song has has got
Speaker 1: something to it, and then seeing it Love, I was
Speaker 1: kind of like after seeing that the canabalist, I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: you know, this song has earned its place this is
Speaker 1: a legitimate rager.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I said it is very uh you know it,
Speaker 2: You're not going to get bring me writing a song
Speaker 2: exactly in the same way they did in two thousand
Speaker 2: and six. So if you're you know, if you if
Speaker 2: you put this record that this song slapped it onto
Speaker 2: the end of the original version of Countter Blessings, it
Speaker 2: would be a leap and it would stand out by
Speaker 2: a long fucking way. But in terms of I say,
Speaker 2: twenty twenty six bring Me, you know, indulging a bit
Speaker 2: that side, which I think it's so fucking fun and cool,
Speaker 2: they can just be like, you know what, why don't
Speaker 2: we just dial it back a little bit and again
Speaker 2: write a really fucking heavy song like like like we
Speaker 2: used to. And it is, you know, it's more than
Speaker 2: that final break thing you're talking about is really like
Speaker 2: that's that's definitely post Will Putney Death Corps, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean, Like it kind of sounds a little
Speaker 2: bit like her Viti's Murder Breakdown or something like that.
Speaker 2: The very thing end, which again, to be clear, one
Speaker 2: of the better ones in that style of the last
Speaker 2: however many years, like it is fucking I'm not I
Speaker 2: think it's one that I.
Speaker 1: Think it's one of the tops or recent breakdowns I
Speaker 1: can think of of like commercial.
Speaker 2: It's got that, you know, terminator production rather than kind
Speaker 2: of really basement death corp. But it's one of the
Speaker 2: best terminator death call songs that the twenty twenties are
Speaker 2: produced by a mile And I actually think the amount
Speaker 2: of songs in a way that like when we spoke
Speaker 2: about prayer plakes and we were like, this song actually
Speaker 2: has a really startling amount of iconic hooks right from
Speaker 2: the opening. You know, she starts her new diet, the
Speaker 2: sun goes down, and so does she capt your fucking blessings,
Speaker 2: you know, clap your hands, pray for plays part and
Speaker 2: you go through that song and it's actually like kind
Speaker 2: of a marathon of lots of individually iconic catchy parts.
Speaker 2: This song has got a lot of hooks right the
Speaker 2: beginning that the some of us are butchers, some of
Speaker 2: us are lambs. Send us to the avatar, let's find
Speaker 2: out who which one I am is like really like
Speaker 2: prime your oli delivery. There's obviously the main dehumanized kind
Speaker 2: of chorus part the fucking Texas chase of Asaka washcre
Speaker 2: Bit with the who will survive and what will be
Speaker 2: left of them is so fucking sick. And then even
Speaker 2: towards that found of breakdown, you've got like the kill
Speaker 2: each other skull with the earth like these parts. It
Speaker 2: like this actually shows the difference between bands who are
Speaker 2: as capable songwriters as Bring Me are compared to a
Speaker 2: lot of the you know, the less talented bands, right
Speaker 2: the fact that even on their fucking off day, right
Speaker 2: when this isn't really what they do anymore, they can
Speaker 2: turn up and be like, have that this is a
Speaker 2: fucking banger with many parts scattered over. It's like four
Speaker 2: minute run time or whatever that a crowd, as we
Speaker 2: have now witnessed, is gonna want to fucking shout back.
Speaker 2: I really admire what again Olie was saying about about
Speaker 2: the song as well, and the fact that I think
Speaker 2: this kind of also illustrates how far they've come. Where
Speaker 2: you look at Count your Blessings and it is these
Speaker 2: you know, very you know, teenage youthful kind of misogynistic
Speaker 2: breakup songs and stuff like that, and then twenty years
Speaker 2: later it's a song basically talking about, you know, the
Speaker 2: dehumanization of our contemporary society, specifically inspired by them being
Speaker 2: told that when they were playing a festival if they
Speaker 2: had Palestinian like insignias and flags on stage, that you know,
Speaker 2: it could carry serious consequences, and the response to that
Speaker 2: being like, well, we're gonna write a song about again,
Speaker 2: how again? Like desensitized to atrocities. We are all kind
Speaker 2: of becoming like I were told to put their career
Speaker 2: ahead of like standing up for something like that.
Speaker 1: I think like fair again, I think that is a
Speaker 1: real principal sort of thing for Bring Me to do.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know, and it's one of the many things
Speaker 2: this weekend and this week that has made me feel
Speaker 2: like good about Bring Me, like genuine like yeah, fucking good,
Speaker 2: good on you. Cool. And then the video which the
Speaker 2: kill each other drop when they fucking shoot like the
Speaker 2: cattle bolt gun through the guy's head as it goes off,
Speaker 2: and it is you know, let's channel all of that
Speaker 2: feeling of disgust from what we were just talking about
Speaker 2: into like rubbing people's faces in it. Like yeah, it's
Speaker 2: not quite force gender reassignment, but it is like torture porn,
Speaker 2: death car and death metal. It looks like a hostel movie, right.
Speaker 2: That shit is is kind of back. You've got these
Speaker 2: big crowd shots that look like they're fucking like you know, duality,
Speaker 2: but inside an abatoar with everyone covered in blood. You
Speaker 2: know what I mean? It is like actually, you know,
Speaker 2: for a mainstream band standards confrontational, yeah, actually upsetting imagery.
Speaker 2: It's I think, you know, Yeah, if you compare it
Speaker 2: to the original O sets Count Your Blessing Songs, there
Speaker 2: is definitely a difference in in vibe, approach, many many things,
Speaker 2: but as a twenty twenty six you know, relevant to
Speaker 2: now Bring Me the Horizon heavier song, I think this
Speaker 2: is fucking like, not just oh that's a pretty good
Speaker 2: song added on to the end of a you know,
Speaker 2: a bonus edition of an album type thing, but genuinely
Speaker 2: a fucking cracker.
Speaker 1: It rules. Yeah, I hope this song is like even
Speaker 1: if this is you know it for like carry your
Speaker 1: blessed entirety, did you and I should be one that
Speaker 1: is now carried forward as kind Yeah? I want to
Speaker 1: say it a staple go fucking mental moment in the
Speaker 1: Bringing the Horizon set.
Speaker 2: Absolutely so we then got to witness you know, the
Speaker 2: show itself being carried forward and the whole vibe of
Speaker 2: sort of you know, strange, surreal celebration that this had.
Speaker 2: It was even like the show, like the PA the
Speaker 2: playlist before they came on, and it was alternating between
Speaker 2: they had like their you know, they're bringing the Horizon
Speaker 2: style instructional videos and shit that they have like their
Speaker 2: AI characters, you know, appearing. So there's the Eve character
Speaker 2: that you'll be familiar with if you went to see
Speaker 2: them on like a recent arena at all, for example,
Speaker 2: And when she turns up with a full on, fucking
Speaker 2: like stripey head scene.
Speaker 1: Was very digital camera to get the right angle. Yeah,
Speaker 1: I found that quite endearing.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, but that she was there to like instruct people
Speaker 2: a not to sue if they get injured in the
Speaker 2: front row. But then also you had this other character
Speaker 2: who appeared it was like this is how you hardcore dance.
Speaker 2: And I was like, this is so weird seeing a
Speaker 2: little like cartoon robot basically showing moves from the sick
Speaker 2: of it all step down on video that I guess
Speaker 2: you've got to get people again, you know, bring people
Speaker 2: into the culture a little bit. But those videos then
Speaker 2: when they were just playing songs before it and it
Speaker 2: was all like, you know, old school type songs, and
Speaker 2: there was one point when they played in two minut
Speaker 2: of Machine by Josh for a Cowboy, and I looked
Speaker 2: around and there were people in the middle of the
Speaker 2: crowd who did that the scream before it. I was like, yeah,
Speaker 2: this is so the vibe is right, you know what
Speaker 2: I mean? But Cat, your list is proper right, so
Speaker 2: obviously they the main set. They played the album front
Speaker 2: to back, which means opening with Pray for fucking Plagues, which.
Speaker 1: Before we even start pray for plagues, what do we
Speaker 1: get as the intro track? We get some from the
Speaker 1: Resident Evil movie The Red Queens and You're all going
Speaker 1: to die down here, which again it was quite fitting
Speaker 1: for like the Eve kind of character. But when I
Speaker 1: heard if I here a somethem the resid Evil movie,
Speaker 1: I am in. I'm so locked in and then you
Speaker 1: get d I was like, this is it. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: we're fucking going like.
Speaker 2: Pay for Plagues is like you did you get to like,
Speaker 2: for example of the Wembley Show when they played it
Speaker 2: like way back when.
Speaker 1: Yes, I thought that that was like that was the
Speaker 1: second Lass bringing the fire show. I'd been to since
Speaker 1: this or I've not seen them since twenty fifteen, I
Speaker 1: went to that well, and then so one time after
Speaker 1: was on the release of that Spirit, and I was
Speaker 1: kind of like, I think this is where we've got
Speaker 1: a part ways for a little bit, and I just
Speaker 1: not felt the urge to go back. But so I've
Speaker 1: seen Pray for Plagues.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well I was. I have seen Bringing All recently,
Speaker 2: but like whenever they would do it felt like they
Speaker 2: were very stray shows, like for example, that Wembley show
Speaker 2: or then you know the other famous one got the
Speaker 2: Malta weekend and they did where they just whipped out
Speaker 2: a bunch of all these like you had to really
Speaker 2: be lucky to be in the right moment at the
Speaker 2: right time to see Bring Me doing anything like this.
Speaker 2: So I'd never seen like, for example, I mean, actually
Speaker 2: any of the songs they played this time, apart from
Speaker 2: Diamond's Art Forever they did play on the last hour
Speaker 2: that I saw them on.
Speaker 1: But certainly, oh shit, so this is almost an entirely
Speaker 1: new set list.
Speaker 2: Like yeah, so I never got saw bring Me like
Speaker 2: way back in the day because I wasn't able to
Speaker 2: go to show its like back when you know, what
Speaker 2: we would say was prime bring Me, Yeah, was around
Speaker 2: so I didn't see any of you know this stuff certainly,
Speaker 2: but like Pray for Play's being a song I fucking
Speaker 2: love for ever and ever singing for the first time
Speaker 2: and all those I think that's about which we could
Speaker 2: predict would be great was the thing because everyone knows
Speaker 2: Pray for Plagues as a banger, Like it's the one
Speaker 2: that they would maybe every now and then play. Like
Speaker 2: I said, it has all those like really iconic parts.
Speaker 2: It was a great part when I don't know if
Speaker 2: someone throw it on stage or if they had it
Speaker 2: or whatever, but Olie was wearing a like England flag
Speaker 2: bucket hat with count your fucking blessings scrawled upon the
Speaker 2: throat of the hat, and I was like, this is
Speaker 2: the most like again six laddish thing for it in
Speaker 2: this environment. I almost think that he should have come
Speaker 2: out with like a scene style wig, like one.
Speaker 1: Point was wearing a scene wig in on the Friday
Speaker 1: show Fringe because he's rocking like the buzz cut at
Speaker 1: the moment. Yeah, but no, at some at one point
Speaker 1: in the set, and I don't know where he got
Speaker 1: it from, but he did have for at least one
Speaker 1: breakdown a floppy head emo.
Speaker 2: Okay, well maybe we got the bucket hat instead. But anyway,
Speaker 2: Pray Plagues, like I said, is the song that people
Speaker 2: know and we knew would be great. It was the
Speaker 2: remaining half hour of the record which we were wondering, like,
Speaker 2: how how much do people actually like this album? You know,
Speaker 2: like is it performative or do people know these songs?
Speaker 2: And you know, do people think these songs are even good?
Speaker 2: Because many people have said they aren't, but they're remaining
Speaker 2: half out of the record. I actually can't believe how
Speaker 2: Like obviously I was excited for this, but I almost
Speaker 2: didn't expect to feel as happy as I did, like
Speaker 2: I was, particularly during the count Your Blessing section of
Speaker 2: this show. I was grinning like a fucking madman and
Speaker 2: just having the time of my life, just throwing myself around,
Speaker 2: almost on my own with these you know again, full
Speaker 2: on grebe, violent, bloodthirsty death core songs, as one just
Speaker 2: ripped straight into the other, I was. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: basically the biggest, arguably the biggest death course show that's
Speaker 2: ever happened. I mean, it's up there with it. I
Speaker 2: don't know what's bigger out of this as all. For example,
Speaker 2: those Laurna shows that they did in arenas, but certainly
Speaker 2: like O six, like classic fucking grebestyle death courts. Right,
Speaker 2: this is almost a moment of like how fucking surreal
Speaker 2: and how far this music has come where it can
Speaker 2: be twenty years later celebrated like this. But I was
Speaker 2: having like the magic of the moment, the occasion, and
Speaker 2: then just the ferocity with which they attacked those you know,
Speaker 2: ten eleven. If he came to humanized Death Corps songs,
Speaker 2: was it fully like translated right into the core of me.
Speaker 1: I it was surreal to me when I was seeing
Speaker 1: some of these songs. And again, I've been, you know,
Speaker 1: to this outbreak site a bunch, I'm familiar with it.
Speaker 1: But then when we were getting moments and songs where
Speaker 1: the breakdowns were hitting, and suddenly fire was Ruther from
Speaker 1: the top of the outbreak.
Speaker 2: Yeah, we got not to watch his dick with Pyro
Speaker 2: What the world?
Speaker 1: Yeah, like, yeah, that's exactly like I mean the things
Speaker 1: when tells someone that's what it came on, and then
Speaker 1: you get that like that frantic intro, and I was like,
Speaker 1: I'm watching people fling themself, some people who like might
Speaker 1: have been two years old when this album came out
Speaker 1: flinging themselves off of the stage with such like reckless
Speaker 1: abandon as Piro is erupting from the top, as Ollie
Speaker 1: sounds the best I have seen him sound in a
Speaker 1: long fucking time, and I was like, how is this
Speaker 1: even happening? The end of the Steve Wander's eyes only,
Speaker 1: when you're getting those fucking sing along moments, everyone kind
Speaker 1: of arms in the air, belting out together in like unison,
Speaker 1: I was like, this shouldn't be happening, Like this is
Speaker 1: so weird, but it's happening, and it's not just happening
Speaker 1: as a novel thing. It's so embraced and celebrated and
Speaker 1: fucking brilliant all at once. I was like genuinely just
Speaker 1: tape blown away by the whole experience, and I felt
Speaker 1: so just sort of like giddy and happy with like
Speaker 1: getting to see this happen.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and watching this band right, we are watching Lee
Speaker 2: Mallia doing fucking tapping solos like all through the Sweet,
Speaker 2: picking his way through the set and just laying out
Speaker 2: like Black Dahlia Riff after at the Gates Rift, after
Speaker 2: Black Dahili Riff, after at the Gates Riff. We are
Speaker 2: watching Matt Nichol's double bass blasting for like a straight
Speaker 2: forty minutes, which has not happened in fucking twenty years.
Speaker 2: Basically like watching those guys who, for you know, a
Speaker 2: lot of the recent period have kind of more sat
Speaker 2: back into being like just the you know, relaxed rock
Speaker 2: dudes going all fucking out was like there were men
Speaker 2: possessed and just unleashing the beast. It was brilliant Ollie
Speaker 2: doing fucking because the whole outbreaks up, but he's doing
Speaker 2: mic grabs to people who are running parties getting down
Speaker 2: on that you know, kind of second tier stage platform,
Speaker 2: Like yeah, people just like flying by him. And again
Speaker 2: for a band who, as any really genuinely huge metal
Speaker 2: band does or rock band, has that sort of level
Speaker 2: of you know separation where you know they're they're up
Speaker 2: on the high stage, those little bits where Olie will
Speaker 2: jump down to the front traditionally and go up to
Speaker 2: the barrier, people are like, oh my god, I can't
Speaker 2: believe I'm touching you, like that kind of thing. Seeing
Speaker 2: people just like whizz over his head in the way
Speaker 2: that we did. Any manner of the hardcore singers who
Speaker 2: we saw at the main outbreak a couple of weeks
Speaker 2: ago and him again passing out the mic for people
Speaker 2: to fucking sing bits of like a lot like Vegas
Speaker 2: or whatever, or Stevie Wonder or Medusa, and people knowing
Speaker 2: the parts was fucking amazing. And what you were saying about,
Speaker 2: you know, oh, these have some like some great songs
Speaker 2: that have kind of be forgotten. Witnessing in action tell
Speaker 2: Us Leanne not to watch his dick is a awful
Speaker 2: title that has marred that song for twenty years, but
Speaker 2: it is a good fucking song, right, Stevie One Designs
Speaker 2: Only is a.
Speaker 1: Good fucking song.
Speaker 2: The one that really got me in the mid album
Speaker 2: range was a lot like Vegas because it's kind of
Speaker 2: a it's a really zippy song and it has that
Speaker 2: we did this feeler do our Graves like a more
Speaker 2: almost traditional bring with Horizon, like you know, chant along,
Speaker 2: kind of a hard chorus part, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: look like an actual chorus in one of these songs
Speaker 2: that people have been telling you for twenty years is
Speaker 2: a badly written, mushy pile of nothing, and I'm here
Speaker 2: seeing it right in front of me, and no, it's
Speaker 2: a banger. Actually, I'm sorry that's.
Speaker 1: It is having like again, Like like I always say,
Speaker 1: I would defend out the side out of this album
Speaker 1: as I think it has got like bangers. Like I said,
Speaker 1: the first four tracks in particular are like legit, but
Speaker 1: it carried across the whole Alm Liquor and Love Lost
Speaker 1: had again sing alongs I used to make up with
Speaker 1: Medusa had singalongs like it was so people did the
Speaker 1: fucking do do do? In off the heat? It was
Speaker 1: everyone and again, and it was to make sure people
Speaker 1: like again, a lot of people were dudes in their
Speaker 1: thirties who were kind of like I have been waiting
Speaker 1: twenty years or like how long, like even though they
Speaker 1: weren't there right and O six, but they've been, you know,
Speaker 1: a fan of Heavier Bring Me and I felt left cold,
Speaker 1: Like that's as I was in by the last decade
Speaker 1: of their work getting to just kind of like relive
Speaker 1: and like relish in these moments. It just felt celebratory.
Speaker 1: And again, I think the band. The thing that made
Speaker 1: it for me was the band weren't kind of like
Speaker 1: trying to act like they're above this and just kind
Speaker 1: of doing this as sort of like a throwaway nostalgia thing.
Speaker 1: They were so in they were having the time. They're like, Olie,
Speaker 1: I think it's like loving every second of getting piled
Speaker 1: on and piling on people. He's kind of happened in
Speaker 1: the final paus of the set, but there's like videos
Speaker 1: of his stage dive at the end of the set,
Speaker 1: and he is like launching himself so.
Speaker 2: Much that the second night there was I don't know
Speaker 2: if this happened. It might have happened the same way
Speaker 2: on the on the first night, but certainly at the
Speaker 2: end of Diamonds Ar't Forever, which they ended the whole
Speaker 2: whole set with, we got one of those like outbreak
Speaker 2: style stage wall invasions right on the second tier and
Speaker 2: Olie again, there's a video, but he did basically from
Speaker 2: the upper tire are like a running jump to leap
Speaker 2: on top of this wall of people at the very end,
Speaker 2: and it was It was so fucking cool. And Ollie
Speaker 2: vocally as well, genuinely fucking killed it to the point
Speaker 2: where you could probably say, considering, you know, going back
Speaker 2: twenty years or whatever, probably the best vocal form of
Speaker 2: his career in terms of just like being fully like
Speaker 2: fit and up for it, like a like a fucking athlete,
Speaker 2: you know, like he's put the work in to make sure,
Speaker 2: like obviously with the recording this album, visiting this whole
Speaker 2: album and doing it the right way, right and being like,
Speaker 2: I know, this is actually gonna be a genuinely a
Speaker 2: physical challenge because getting those noises out of you for
Speaker 2: ninety minutes or whatever is it's almost superhuman, right, It's
Speaker 2: a very difficult thing to do, and clearly having put
Speaker 2: in like the you know, months and months of fucking
Speaker 2: you know work to be up for that, and there
Speaker 2: wasn't a you know, a point during this where it
Speaker 2: was off the mark, like he was full. It was
Speaker 2: like watching fucking prime Eddie Hamida, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: It's like, oh my god, Ollie Psykes is genuinely fucking
Speaker 2: killing this right now.
Speaker 1: That was my thing again even again do my do
Speaker 1: my so primaris have seen bringing the prison Ollie was
Speaker 1: always the kind of like the technically the weak thing
Speaker 1: that he was such a good front man and you
Speaker 1: would get everyone sort of sing along that him not
Speaker 1: being able to do the songs propoly was never a
Speaker 1: huge issue because it was kind of like a sort
Speaker 1: of unifying experience and he could do enough to get
Speaker 1: the songs cross this verson on was like, you have
Speaker 1: risen to the occasion. You've known that, like this has
Speaker 1: got to be done right, and you have You've put this,
Speaker 1: you put the work in, You've got something. You have
Speaker 1: rehearsed these songs and practice that you can do these
Speaker 1: vocals and not as it wasn't until basically the end
Speaker 1: of the set where you could kind of hear it
Speaker 1: was like he was a bit he was starting to
Speaker 1: get a little bit fucked because he just laid it
Speaker 1: all out on stage for the previous eighty minutes and
Speaker 1: in fact, if it's not until the end of the
Speaker 1: set where he has been going fucking the hardest he
Speaker 1: has gone and god knows how long that he starts
Speaker 1: to sound a little weary, I'm like, well, that to
Speaker 1: me is almost like a sign of just how good
Speaker 1: he's been. That he has poured everything into this performance.
Speaker 1: It was like, really something to put that, And I think,
Speaker 1: like just all the respects to him and and the
Speaker 1: band in general for just locking in and just giving
Speaker 1: this the actual treatment it deserves and not just all
Speaker 1: and again not just doing it as a novelty. Doing
Speaker 1: this is the most like professional way that still feels
Speaker 1: put together properly, but has the spirit and the energy
Speaker 1: of what a two thousand and six death course, yeah
Speaker 1: ding venue should be just on the biggest stage with
Speaker 1: fucking part I mean.
Speaker 2: And that was at one point where where OI just goes,
Speaker 2: I want this to be brutal with two zeros, and
Speaker 2: it was just like such a yes, Like if you
Speaker 2: were there during the you know, the the late Northeast
Speaker 2: early twenty tens era of like the online death core
Speaker 2: metal speak whatever it did, it felt like the whole
Speaker 2: occasion was like a love letter. It was almost like
Speaker 2: we made it. You know, It's like this, this is
Speaker 2: where we started. Here we are twenty years later, we're
Speaker 2: somehow through this strange series of events in this career
Speaker 2: up we've been on able to perform this music in
Speaker 2: a you know, in front of a crowd like this
Speaker 2: and in a setting like this. But it was such
Speaker 2: a love letter too, like that moment in time and
Speaker 2: even like you know, looking at the record and just
Speaker 2: the the fucking the stupidity part of you know, capul
Speaker 2: lessings and that era of death courts and the sloppiness
Speaker 2: and the fucking the you know, the youthful just fucking
Speaker 2: vigor of it, you know, of charging into a fucking
Speaker 2: wall and banging your head off a bit, right, like
Speaker 2: that useful stupidity was like again, even they are they're
Speaker 2: much you know, much more mature, more physically able, whatever
Speaker 2: type people. It did feel like a love letter to uh,
Speaker 2: that kind of spirit and even to the sense of
Speaker 2: like you know, being vaguely patriotic about it, being like,
Speaker 2: you know, obviously, like I said, the Saturday was the
Speaker 2: day of the England game right afterwards, and Olie being like,
Speaker 2: you know, we are bringing the horizon from Sheffield, England, right,
Speaker 2: It's like we are from essentially just down the road.
Speaker 2: We are this world conquering band. We are like the biggest,
Speaker 2: most influential metal bard of our generation. But we that
Speaker 2: the UK hardcore and metal core scene is what Birth
Speaker 2: does and this is what is you know, this is
Speaker 2: what we're kind of throwing it back to and really
Speaker 2: like you know, giving that love back to on these
Speaker 2: particular nights and celebrating again how far they've come, Like
Speaker 2: you know, Oli was talking about, you know, these three
Speaker 2: guys on this stage with me, like they have been
Speaker 2: a band together obviously, they've had other members come and go.
Speaker 2: But these four guys who are bringing the Roizen right
Speaker 2: now have been there since Fucking County Blessings era, and
Speaker 2: it's like they have kind of gone through thick and
Speaker 2: thin together and this was just such a great moment
Speaker 2: of like, you know, we are all still here. He
Speaker 2: was like, we're all still friends, we all still enjoy
Speaker 2: doing this together. Look how fucking far we've come. And
Speaker 2: there was just this really like wonderful for a record
Speaker 2: as nasty as Country of Blessings and it's like genuinely
Speaker 2: ugly in many places a cut of Blessings, there was
Speaker 2: a wonderfully wholesome, loving, we can all feel good about
Speaker 2: this together vibe that like percolated through this entire show.
Speaker 1: But there was a bit more Ollie. He got choked up.
Speaker 1: It was like, I was like, we was just trying
Speaker 1: to say this was my favorite shows and he kind
Speaker 1: of just got choked with I was like, it might
Speaker 1: be my favorite show ever, and he just kind of
Speaker 1: off off the coup, kind of just said that because
Speaker 1: he was just taken aback by the whole celebratory just
Speaker 1: kind of like loving nature of what all of what
Speaker 1: that and again what they've achieved looking back to when
Speaker 1: they were this is the certainly thing but the most
Speaker 1: ridiculed band, and it's now of like, look at us
Speaker 1: getting ten thousand people to fucking go but batshit with
Speaker 1: these songs that you said we were rubbish at the time.
Speaker 1: Fuck you all. We are like we've made it. We
Speaker 1: are doing that and I'm like, I mean, it's just
Speaker 1: so cool. And again it feels like because because they
Speaker 1: have now idiot that they can look back at this
Speaker 1: and there isn't you know, necessarily the risk and kind
Speaker 1: of frown back to here. But it wasn't done as
Speaker 1: a sort of like none of it felt like a
Speaker 1: sort of calculated or if we do the nostalgia thing
Speaker 1: now it's gonna sell, it's it's clean done because Eving
Speaker 1: just felt like we want to we want to look
Speaker 1: back at our origins, at our roots and kind of
Speaker 1: throw throw back to that time and have fun doing it.
Speaker 1: And that was it. It's just the fun for the band,
Speaker 1: for the audience. It was just a good time, fun event.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's a hell of a fucking you know, bow
Speaker 2: for again, the micro drop for Cat your Blessings as
Speaker 2: a moment and a record, you know what I mean?
Speaker 2: Then we had to humanize right at the end of
Speaker 2: you know, the Canty Blessings kind of part of the set,
Speaker 2: and like I said, it immediately just fucking cemented itself
Speaker 2: like it was a banger. People were going off for it.
Speaker 2: It carried in, took certainly in the live environment. Obviously
Speaker 2: things like production, you know, change or whatever aren't as
Speaker 2: apparently it carried on so seamlessly from the songs before
Speaker 2: it and the multiple hooks. Again, the fucking the Texas
Speaker 2: and Maska drop I mentioned was particularly great in the
Speaker 2: live environment. And then it went off for a little bit,
Speaker 2: and then when they came back, we had an encore
Speaker 2: set of what was it like four songs that turned
Speaker 2: out to also be you know, some turning back the
Speaker 2: clock to a different time. I will say, obviously you
Speaker 2: were there the day before. I was we as is
Speaker 2: kind of unavoidable with a song of you know, a
Speaker 2: show of this, you know, prominence. I saw what songs
Speaker 2: you guys have got in the encore and for the
Speaker 2: remaining for the twenty four hours after that, I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: what will we get? Like will we get for example,
Speaker 2: like what met you know, Michael Groman's been doing where
Speaker 2: they've be dropping in different old songs every night and
Speaker 2: that kind of thing. I was like, Oh, come on,
Speaker 2: do do alligate of blood, you know, do fucking football
Speaker 2: season is over, which it fucking is now, isn't it,
Speaker 2: But you know, do like Blacklist or something like that.
Speaker 2: And then we ended up getting the exact same four
Speaker 2: songs that you've got, So that was just as the
Speaker 2: second helping that we got. I was like, ah, damn it.
Speaker 2: They got the initial like what it is, and we
Speaker 2: got the second round those. But in terms of those
Speaker 2: four songs that they picked, which all covered essentially bring
Speaker 2: every bringing release up to twenty ten.
Speaker 1: Yeah, for me, I was kind of wondering was this
Speaker 1: gonna Were they gonna do it probably and just don't
Speaker 1: do for or because they've been on tour doing their
Speaker 1: current sell us anyway, are they just gonna They're like,
Speaker 1: we've got these songs, let's do them. When they came
Speaker 1: out and they started playing the opening notes of Suicide Season,
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, they're not doing Suicide Season.
Speaker 1: They're not doing Suicide Season because I was like, there's
Speaker 1: no way they're doing the eight minute closer off of
Speaker 1: that album. And then we're like the what I was
Speaker 1: like belting it out, and I think it was such
Speaker 1: a great choice of a song to kind of like
Speaker 1: follow one from Discount Your Blessings thing because this this
Speaker 1: was one of the first songs. But everyone kind of went, oh,
Speaker 1: there is the growth in songwriting because obviously, yeah, Suicide
Speaker 1: That's an album is kind of like the first step
Speaker 1: of them, kind of like doing momatal stuff. It's still
Speaker 1: got you know, real knuckle dragging dumb shit on it season,
Speaker 1: which I love all those songs, but the title track
Speaker 1: is this like really emotional, stirring, like post metalcore song
Speaker 1: almost and kind of like again it's eight minutes, it's
Speaker 1: that there's lots of passages to it. It's one of
Speaker 1: my favorite bringing Rison songs. And I just wasn't like,
Speaker 1: there's maybe only one song and the entire catalog I
Speaker 1: would have rather than played than Suicide Season, which is
Speaker 1: Crucify Me, which I'm never ever gonna get again. Fine, whatever,
Speaker 1: I kind of got Suicide Season. I couldn't fucking believe it.
Speaker 1: I was like almost crying because I was just kind
Speaker 1: of like, this song is one of those when I
Speaker 1: throw back to like late teen me who felt like
Speaker 1: an outcast he was like, and I was like, I
Speaker 1: like my eyes and and this song was one that
Speaker 1: I really was connected with, and I was like, fucking hell,
Speaker 1: I'm I've just seen Count Your Blessings in full and
Speaker 1: now I'm seeing them play Suicide Season. And this is
Speaker 1: where I like emotions started to stir up in me.
Speaker 1: I was kind of like, weren't ready for it. It
Speaker 1: was a real power. And so you get to that
Speaker 1: final like if I Sarah good Bill, yeah, but I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, this is I can't believe it.
Speaker 2: So on the second night, towards the very very end
Speaker 2: of Sucide season, there was like one of those you
Speaker 2: know Stow show stoppages, nothing serious, but you know, like
Speaker 2: you know, someone injured in the crowd had to be
Speaker 2: moved out whatever. And then so there were only at
Speaker 2: the very end of Suicides was like, right, we're just
Speaker 2: gonna do this very last bit a cappella. So on
Speaker 2: the second night, the very very ending of Suicide season,
Speaker 2: he just did it on his own with the crowd,
Speaker 2: and that was like a really fucking.
Speaker 1: That's a cool way to do it though as well, Yeah,
Speaker 1: it works as that kind of like intimate moment exactly.
Speaker 2: So that's that's how that that went down, and Suicide
Speaker 2: season that's been played for the first time live since
Speaker 2: twenty eleven.
Speaker 1: Obviously I might have seen that the last time it
Speaker 1: had been played, like genuine if one of the last
Speaker 1: times when they played there like Brigs in twenty eleven.
Speaker 1: They probably didn't play much after that, So yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2: All County blessing songs, apart from the ones they would
Speaker 2: regularly play like break Plagues or whatever. Obviously there, you know,
Speaker 2: first time since two thousand and nine, two thousand and six,
Speaker 2: A couple of them like whatever. Then the next time
Speaker 2: of the on court we were joking, we were like,
Speaker 2: will they play raw? Right? Will they do? You know
Speaker 2: something daft from the even earlier than counter your Lessons?
Speaker 2: This is what the Edge of your Seat was made for,
Speaker 2: eph And yeah, they did play well. It's probably the
Speaker 2: best song from that EP. It's the opening song, isn't it.
Speaker 2: The they have made reflections. First time that song has
Speaker 2: been played since two thousand and eight, apparently, or at
Speaker 2: least in full according to EF, they've done it.
Speaker 1: In Medley's I know that they've done it. Yeah, when
Speaker 1: they've thrown out those kind of like throwback medleys that
Speaker 1: they've done it at the odd shows they've done like
Speaker 1: maybe like the breakdown part one or one of the
Speaker 1: breaks from the opening of.
Speaker 2: That song being just full on fucking scroung key panic chords. Yeah,
Speaker 2: like the most obnoxious, like abrasive hardcore in their catalog.
Speaker 2: And once again there's Pyro coming out of the fucking
Speaker 2: top of the stage during it while they're playing fucking
Speaker 2: are they have no reflection? Was so surreal, like what
Speaker 2: a bizarre timeline to award into.
Speaker 1: Couldn't believe that that that's probably the best that song
Speaker 1: has been played, because even on that EP, that song
Speaker 1: is like, again it's aw this songy like panicled harkle,
Speaker 1: but it is sloppy. The playing is all over the
Speaker 1: place on that EP. Like hearing it played live with
Speaker 1: that full force behind it and that the attack in
Speaker 1: those rifts, I was kind of like, again, what are
Speaker 1: we doing? How is this being played in a car
Speaker 1: park to ten thousand people with Piro and people are
Speaker 1: fucking like shouting along to it.
Speaker 2: Yeah. And then the last two songs of it, the
Speaker 2: final one, the one song that I had you know,
Speaker 2: seen played before because it is an older, they bring
Speaker 2: out from now and then diamonds aren't forever, which I
Speaker 2: saw one of the funniest just like little moments I've
Speaker 2: maybe ever seen it a show where you know, when
Speaker 2: you maybe if you're standing near a security guard at
Speaker 2: a show, and there are those little moments when the
Speaker 2: security guards as they talk to each other or jested
Speaker 2: to each other, show a little bit of humanity, right,
Speaker 2: and you see that the security to having like a
Speaker 2: little bit of fun when they started doing dimes up forever.
Speaker 2: The security guard like started doing you know, going to her,
Speaker 2: you know, her partner who was it was, it was
Speaker 2: out with it, doing that like we will never sleep
Speaker 2: kind of mouthing it part. And then notice that behind
Speaker 2: her in the actual crowd area, someone had gotten on
Speaker 2: top of someone's shoulders and had lit two of those
Speaker 2: like sort of red smoke grenade like flair type things, yeah,
Speaker 2: and was going off. So she was like looking the
Speaker 2: other way, mouthing we will never sleep because for the week,
Speaker 2: and then just turned around and did like a comedy
Speaker 2: double take at this person all these giant fucking smoking
Speaker 2: things and had to start frantically gesturing being like, oh
Speaker 2: my god, I get that guy. It was like such
Speaker 2: a tonal switch of a moment, brilliant that will live
Speaker 2: my memb for a long time, but before dimes up forever.
Speaker 2: A pnultimate song Blessed with a Curse, which once again,
Speaker 2: this is the first time I have seen a single
Speaker 2: song played from what I think is the best bringing
Speaker 2: the r as an album, which is there is a
Speaker 2: hell it's not my favorite song from it, but I
Speaker 2: do know that Blessed with the Curse is such a
Speaker 2: real fan favorite, and I think it's only like the
Speaker 2: second time they have played this song in like the
Speaker 2: current decade, right, and again it's a it's a switch
Speaker 2: certainly from you know, the cant of Blessing start stuff.
Speaker 2: Because we're serisis as well, we had delved into some
Speaker 2: really like you know more kind of like your emotional
Speaker 2: heart and sleep hardcore type bringing the Horizon material. But
Speaker 2: once again in terms of the loving too, I just
Speaker 2: suppose the early years of this band and how much
Speaker 2: that material means to people, you know, getting one particularly
Speaker 2: in the sort of inter but you know when you
Speaker 2: fucking when main outbreak happened, and you see the video
Speaker 2: that went around of like Largerspute for example, Yeah, and
Speaker 2: you've got people doing the you know, King Park and
Speaker 2: all that kind of shit, and you go, oh yeah,
Speaker 2: that's the sort of the emotive hardcore, you know, outbreak
Speaker 2: type experience.
Speaker 1: It was basically that.
Speaker 2: But we bring me playing Blessed with the Curse.
Speaker 1: You know what I mean? Again, if you ask anyone
Speaker 1: who knew me in twenty ten how much I loved
Speaker 1: this song and I was kind of like, this is it, man,
Speaker 1: like bringing the vice and their right us emotional middlecre
Speaker 1: ballads that are so deep and like speaking to me.
Speaker 1: And again I was like, fuck me, eighteen year old
Speaker 1: Sam is happening again. We're seeing Blessed for Curse. You
Speaker 1: can get your big cry out and again like that
Speaker 1: was it for the because again that this song is
Speaker 1: has built on those kind of big shout along hooks
Speaker 1: from the chorus, so it's got to take back everything
Speaker 1: I said for you, or like everything I touched turns
Speaker 1: to stone, and that were like the crowd on there
Speaker 1: screaming that, and Ollie again on top of them passing
Speaker 1: the my accout and just Eron laying all that. It
Speaker 1: felt huge and it was kind of like these songs
Speaker 1: are massive, and they are, but they are still heavy,
Speaker 1: they're emotive, and it was just a great thing to
Speaker 1: sort of see this come back out and capture that
Speaker 1: kind of like emotional heart and sleeve hardcore kind of
Speaker 1: like crowd band sort of moment, and Blessed for Us
Speaker 1: was like the perfle one to do that with.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it was a hell of a fucking moment, you know,
Speaker 2: Like I said, in terms of a band who, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we have both been on and off with in terms
Speaker 2: of showing our appreciation for But it's so nice when
Speaker 2: even if it is a bit of nostalgia, but if
Speaker 2: it's approached the right way and done with conviction, right,
Speaker 2: which this I think absolutely was. It's so nice when
Speaker 2: you get thrown a bone and you can reconnect with
Speaker 2: something and like seeing you know, bringing the horizon. Who
Speaker 2: are you know, the definitive metal band. Whether they're favorite
Speaker 2: or not, they are in terms of scale and influence,
Speaker 2: they are the definitive metal band of our generation essentially, right,
Speaker 2: you know, the kind of late millennial turn of the
Speaker 2: you know, twenty tens getting into heavy music type generation.
Speaker 2: They are like the band who were like the at
Speaker 2: the four of it all. Getting to see them reconnect
Speaker 2: with you know, the version of them basically that I
Speaker 2: first like was attracted to was was really really something
Speaker 2: and like you know again that the re recorded record
Speaker 2: we're saying that, you know, it's not bad by any
Speaker 2: many means, but it's not one that we're going to
Speaker 2: like reach for in the future. The show was actually
Speaker 2: better even than we like could have dreamed of it being.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: You know, when you say Bring the Rison are doing
Speaker 2: Canty Blessings in full, it almost sounds like a bit
Speaker 2: of a joke or such a sort of or going
Speaker 2: to see it for the surrealness of it, But in
Speaker 2: terms of like actually putting on an incredible fucking night,
Speaker 2: it was like it delivered absolutely, like they made sure
Speaker 2: that it did. And we've even got a really fucking
Speaker 2: wicked new song to go with it as well. So
Speaker 2: you know, this band who we drift on and off with,
Speaker 2: getting this moment where we can go, we feel so
Speaker 2: fucking good, even if it's just for now, right, it
Speaker 2: was really like I I value that, I'll treasure that.
Speaker 1: That's exactly it for me. Again, it's been over a
Speaker 1: decade since I've seen Bringfis and they were once from
Speaker 1: a time my favorite band, and like again I've you know,
Speaker 1: slightly warmed back up to them again in recent years
Speaker 1: where again I've kind of like my stuffiness of oh
Speaker 1: he's not screaming anymore, like all that when like that
Speaker 1: Spirit and Ammo really pushed me away. And there have
Speaker 1: been moments on you know, the last couple that I
Speaker 1: found a bit terrible. Other moments I've been like, I
Speaker 1: like that some cool having this sort released for one
Speaker 1: one day or for one little period this year where
Speaker 1: they've gone this is for you. I've treasured it, I like,
Speaker 1: and part of me is like, is this you know,
Speaker 1: a sort of an a a tester for a heavier
Speaker 1: browth rise in the future. Who knows that? But even
Speaker 1: if it isn't just right now, I was like, I'm
Speaker 1: living this in the I'm living in the moment for
Speaker 1: this of like I want to see Cary of Blessings
Speaker 1: them fall, which is now that like maybe should never
Speaker 1: be played in full, but I never expected to be
Speaker 1: playing full and then an encore of some of my
Speaker 1: favorite brinth Rison songs. I have zero complaints, like I've
Speaker 1: all it's the most positive stuff I'm gonna say about
Speaker 1: brining Rison maybe ever Again, they were just absolutely unbelievable
Speaker 1: and the whole presentation of this from the album, I'm like,
Speaker 1: hats off to bring me. You have done an amazing
Speaker 1: job here.
Speaker 2: Yeah here. Like we said, nostalgia when it's done with
Speaker 2: conviction and approached properly and with a sense of purpose,
Speaker 2: can actually be really fucking cool and really valuable.
Speaker 1: So here there you go.
Speaker 2: That was our thoughts on bringing the Horizons a whole.
Speaker 2: Can't your blessing the twentieth anniversary celebrations. We will be
Speaker 2: back right now. As I said, if you hop over
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Speaker 2: is the fourth and final part of our Corn Special,
Speaker 2: the big band Special that we have been deep into
Speaker 2: for the past couple of months. We will also be
Speaker 2: back next week. England may not have well won the
Speaker 2: World Cup, but the work continues on over here. Next
Speaker 2: week I think we'll be our review show and we
Speaker 2: are going to be talking about those records from example
Speaker 2: Loathe and the Mensingers and the excerpts and all the
Speaker 2: manner of bands who have release records in last couple
Speaker 2: of weeks and on ones as well, So you can
Speaker 2: rejoin us there for that.
Speaker 1: Bye.