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dot Great Detectives dot net. Well now. From July twelfth,

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nineteen fifty one, here is the big setup.

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Speaker 2: The story you were about to hear is true, only

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the names have been changed to protect the innocent. You're

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a detective sergeant.

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Speaker 3: You're assigned to burglary detail.

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Speaker 4: A gang of.

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Speaker 2: Clever thieves are at work in your city. In three months,

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they've looted fashionable homes of one hundred thousand dollars.

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Speaker 5: In furs and jewels.

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Speaker 4: There's no clue to their identity.

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Speaker 6: Your job get them.

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Speaker 7: Dragnet the documented drama of an actual crime. For the

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next thirty minutes, in cooperation of the Los Angeles Police Department,

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you will travel, step by a step on the side

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of the law through an actual case transcribed from official

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police by us, from beginning to end, from crime to punishment.

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Dragnet is the story of your police force in action.

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Speaker 8: Was Wednesday, January tenth, was cold in Los Angeles. We're

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working the day watch out of burgery detail. My partner's

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Ben Romero. The boss is Captain Wisdom. My name's Friday.

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It was eleven fifteen am when we got back to

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the city Hall Captain Wisdom's office.

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Speaker 5: Hi, Skipper, Hi, how'd you make eye?

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Speaker 3: Not too good? Same old story.

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Speaker 5: Anybody in the house and the thieves broke in?

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Speaker 8: Yeah. The children's nurse was there. She said the burgery

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took place about midnight. She was asleep in bed at

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the time. The nurse said she woke up when she

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heard the thieves forcing their way in through a side door.

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She jumped out of bed, ran for the telephone in

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the hallway, and they grabbed her before she could reach it.

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Do her any harm, well a little? Yeah, They tied

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her up, locked her in a closet.

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Speaker 3: Same memo as the other job, skipper. Three men each

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have the more gloves and a mask. They took all

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the furs and jewelry. They could find nothing.

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Speaker 5: Now, nurse, give you the same general description on the

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three of them.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's not going to help them. I'd said. Two

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of the men were tall, medium bill and one was short,

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heavy Bill. She was so rattled she couldn't even remember

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the clothes.

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Speaker 9: Then, or twelve jobs are the same gang in three months?

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We don't even have a good description of them. Hows local?

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Speaker 3: We move doing everything we can give her.

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Speaker 9: Excuse me for burgary wisdom. Uh huh, not until two o'clock. No,

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that's all right, two o'clock sharp, right bye, Just had

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an appointment, cancelot. How about a cup of coffee downstairs?

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I didn't even have a chance for breakfast this morning?

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Speaker 8: Final with me?

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Speaker 3: I mean, grab my hat, I'll get it here you go. Thanks.

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Speaker 9: I guess you talked to the owners of the house

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on the place was broken into last night.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, we did mister and Ms Peterson. They got home

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a couple hours after the burglary, took a quick inventory

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where they find missing furs and jewels, same as the

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other jobs, almost twelve thousand dollars worth. It's the biggest

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fall yet.

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Speaker 5: I don't have to spell it out for you. We

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need a break on this thing.

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Speaker 3: We need a bad more pressure from the front office.

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Speaker 9: Well coming from all sides. The victims are insurance companies, newspapers.

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They got a right to cry. Those thieves have.

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Speaker 5: Been grabbing furs and jewels for three months.

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Speaker 3: We're doing everything about it we can. New is Gibber planning, steakhouts,

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working our informants, running down every lead we can get

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our hands on, covered every angle. I thank god.

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Speaker 5: They don't worry about the angles we cover. They want results.

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They want their property back and go ahead, Gibber. Yeah. Now,

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how about the stuff they took on the job last night?

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You get it on the stolen property list?

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Speaker 8: Yeah, it's all listed. That's one thing that really gets me.

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What are the thieves doing with all that stuff, the

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furs and the jewelry. We've had every pawn shop in

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the city on the alert since they started working. Checked

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on every possible outlet we know of any place they

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could use to dump this stuff. They haven't turned up

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a trace of it.

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Speaker 5: No results in those apbs you got.

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Speaker 8: Out, Well, yeah, a few, but none of them. Am

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panning out.

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Speaker 3: How about trying the cafeteria here, they got pretty good coffee.

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Speaker 4: Oh good idea.

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Speaker 3: Why don't you too, grab a table, I'll get the coffee.

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Speaker 5: Right then, Oh, hold the cream on mind? Will you

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ride skim?

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Speaker 8: How's this is all right? Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Fine?

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Speaker 5: Tree chairs?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, okay, how about it, Friday, You or Ben got

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any ideas at all?

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Speaker 8: Well, there's one thing we wanted to talk over with you.

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We were kicking the idea around on the way back

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into the office. It's like a smoke.

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Speaker 4: Oh thanks, there you go.

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Speaker 8: Last night we were comparing the different stories we got

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from the burgery victims.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, life, thank you you a letter? Yeah, it's all right,

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go ahead.

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Speaker 8: Well that's one thing that all their stories seemed to

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happen in common. Now that's counting all twelve victims.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, what's that.

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Speaker 8: Let's see, I got a piece of paper here, I

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got it all figured out. Yeah, we know all the

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victims are fairly wealthy people. They go out quite a

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bit parties, nightclubs, things like that.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, none of them were at home at the time

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the burglaries.

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Speaker 3: You pull up, that's right, Yeah, here you go. There's

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your skipper, Joe, Thank you very much.

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Speaker 8: I'm just telling you Captain about that idea we were

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talking about on the way back in.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, all right, so none of the victims were home

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at the time of the burglary. Where does it go

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from there?

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Speaker 8: Well, for one thing, we all pretty much agree that

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there must be a fingerman working with a gang, don't we.

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Somebody who knows the victims aren't home. Somebody who also

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knows the victims aren't wearing the furs or jewels on

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that particular Night's right, right.

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Speaker 5: We've been going on that assumption. The question is who's

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the fingerman.

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Speaker 8: Well, that's what I'm trying to get at here. Ben

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and I compared the victims' stories. We found out that

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in every case, each of the victims had been out

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in some public place from three to five days before

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the night of the burglary. Now, at that time, every

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one of them wore furs and expensive jewelry.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why don't you read off some of those examples

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we got there Joe.

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Speaker 8: Okay, well, here's the first one. Mister and missus Charles King. Now,

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on December tenth, they went to a nightclub out in Hollywood.

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Missus King wore a fur coat and quite a bit

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of jewelry. On December fourteenth, they went out to a theater.

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They didn't dress up at all. They left the furs

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and jewels at home. That's the night that their house

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was burgerized.

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Speaker 5: And the same pattern shows up in every one of

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the victim's stories.

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Speaker 8: No, no, it's not quite that close, but the same

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elements seem to be there.

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Speaker 3: Here's another one, Skipper. Let's see mister and missus Lyons.

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November twentieth, they went to a big party to restaurant

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out on sunset. Woman wore jewelry expensive for a wrap.

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A week later, they went to a party to friend's house.

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Missus Lyons left their first and jewelry at home. The

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same night thieves broke in.

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Speaker 4: That's a pretty good angle.

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Speaker 5: How do you tie up all the loose ends?

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Speaker 8: Well, I see a paper again, Ben, We got it

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half way figured right here. Just before each of the

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victims was taken, they appeared in the public place wearing

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the furs and jewelry. We've got a list of all

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the places nightclubs, restaurants. There's about six of them here.

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Speaker 5: So the fingerman for the gag must be watching these

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six places.

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Speaker 3: He spots the people with expensive firs and jewelry, tips

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off the gang. They watch the house next time the

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people go out, and the thiefs see the woman isn't

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wearing her furs and things, and they move in.

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Speaker 8: It's not a sure thing. We're just guessing you in

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this tent. We think it sounds like a fair guest.

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Speaker 4: Let's move on.

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Speaker 3: We'll have to cover each of those nightclubs and the restaurants.

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We're going to take more men, more time. Could be

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nothing but a blind alley.

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Speaker 4: We got the men, we got the time.

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Speaker 5: Let's try it.

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Speaker 8: Ten pm, Wednesday, January tenth. Our idea for stopping the

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burglary gang by reaching their spot or fingerman was put

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into operation. The half dozen nightclubs and restaurants where we

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thought the spotter might be checking off richly dressed couples

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as future burglary victims were placed under strict surveillance. Managers

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and employees of each of the places were questioned. It

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went slow. The first week got us four leads to

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check out. They let nowhere. Any and all suspicious looking

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persons loitering in or near the clubs and restaurants that

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we had staked out were questioned and checked out thoroughly.

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Another week passed no results in the meantime. On January

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twenty third, the burglary gang hit again, this time at

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a dentist's home in the Hollywood Hills. The maid, a

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Missilsea Bergstrom, was the only one present at the time

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of the burglary. Ben and I drove out the interviewer.

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Speaker 10: It was soon before midnight. The mister and missus was

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gone out evasitting the television.

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Speaker 3: The three men broke in the side doors. That'd right,

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Miss Brooks, ye had the side door, I think.

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Speaker 11: So.

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Speaker 12: I was sitting at the television boxing. I hear this sound.

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I turn around and the three men they're right there

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in the room with me. I thought I could scream,

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but I couldn't.

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Speaker 8: Or do you remember what the men looked like, Miss Bergstrom,

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how they were dressed.

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Speaker 11: I don't know.

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Speaker 12: I was so much being frightened.

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Speaker 10: One of them had a jacket on, I think dark jacket.

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The others I don't know.

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Speaker 8: Anything else about them that you noticed it.

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Speaker 10: They had mass all over their faces. I couldn't see.

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Speaker 11: I jumped up.

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Speaker 12: I tried to scream, but that was so much frightened.

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Speaker 3: What did they do then, miss, Yeah.

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Speaker 10: They put the cloth all around my mouth so I

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couldn't make noise. Then I tied my hands and my

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feet and they put me in the closet down there,

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you smiled the hollway. I was kicking and hitting at them.

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Speaker 3: Had you ever seen any of the men before?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 12: Never before.

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Speaker 8: Do you think you'd know any of the men if

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you saw them again.

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Speaker 11: I shouldn't be sure.

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Speaker 12: One of them, maybe I might know him his way,

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only it was very quick.

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Speaker 10: Then I was putting me in the closet. I was

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hitting and kicking at them. One of the men, I

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knocked his hat off. It fell on the floor. I

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pulled at the thing on his face, the mask almost

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it came off.

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Speaker 3: Well from what you could see, what did the man

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look like?

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Speaker 12: Blonde hair?

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Speaker 10: I can remember, there's not so much on top here,

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it's only on the side here, and there was right

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there by the forehead hair a scar going over that way.

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Speaker 8: Yeah. Was he a big man, you know, as big

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as the.

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Speaker 12: Other he has a smaller man.

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Speaker 10: He was bigger this way, you know, feather. Yeah, he

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was so mad and I knocked his hair off. I

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thought maybe he'd kill me, only put me in the closet,

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you know. And then they closed the door. I could

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hear them upstairs going through.

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Speaker 11: The mister and missus Ruth.

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Speaker 3: And you're pretty sure the description you've given us, miss Worth.

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Speaker 10: She had the scar, the blonde hair, not so much

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on top. I remember that it was well. I was

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so much frightened.

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Speaker 11: I thought they'd.

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Speaker 8: Killed me after they liked you in the closet. They

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didn't come back. That's the last you saw them.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, they didn't come back to me. I could hear

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the moon round upstairs, and then I could hear them

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leave after a while, like all night for the mister

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and missus came home and found me. It was so

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much frightened. This thing wouldn't happen in Sweden. That's where

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I come from, Sweden.

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Speaker 3: Yes, ma'am, you sure there's nothing else about these minute

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You've noticed something we ought to know about.

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Speaker 10: You know, everything I saw, Yes, I I hadden, I

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told you the way it was, this never would have

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happened in Sweden, not like this, these robbers like this

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burglars man. Yeah, these burglars, I thought I'd be dead.

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Never would happen in Sweden like this.

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Speaker 3: You don't have burglars.

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Speaker 12: Yeah, yeah, we had burglars.

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Speaker 8: Well just how do you mean he had burglars?

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Speaker 10: But I don't break in the house when somebody's there. Yeah,

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they they'd tell everybous going from the house. Then they

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break it, even burglar, said the angleman. A little bit.

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Speaker 8: Before we left the house, we checked with the owners,

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took their crime report and a list of their stolen property,

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some six thousand dollars in jewelry and fur coats. The

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maid's description of one of the three men in the

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gang wasn't complete, but it was the best that we'd

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had on him in three months. Frank Cunningham and the

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Eye Bureau had the description of the scar on the

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suspect's forard checked through the oddity file. Meantime, Ben and

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I paired up the additional facts about the suspect, the scar,

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the color and condition of his hair, along with his

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general description is approximate weight and height. We had the

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Stat's office make a run for us and all ex

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cons with burglary records who fitted the overall description. They

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came up with a list of ten names and we

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started checking them out. One of the first listed was

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a Russell Snow. We checked his last known address, but

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he'd moved. His mail was being forwarded in care of

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his brother, George Snow, who managed the Neptune Plunge, a

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public indoor swimming pool in the East Hollywood neighborhood. We

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drove out the interview of the brother.

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Speaker 3: Pretty good size for an indoor pool. Huh, yeah it is.

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Speaker 8: It's a nice layout.

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Speaker 3: They got, must be the office way ahead, Dan, Thanks, Joe, Jot.

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Speaker 8: What's that that girl over there? Look at that baby

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and so that she's got a real They keep getting smaller,

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don't They.

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Speaker 3: Makes you embarrass just to look at him? Yeah, maybe

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I'm just getting old. Yes, sir, we're looking for George Snow.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm here.

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Speaker 3: Police officers met the Snow. Like talk to you a

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few minutes if we could.

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Speaker 13: Oh yeah, let me grab a towel over and get

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right off though, for sure, come on over, pull up

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one of these deck chairs here.

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Speaker 3: All right, thank you very much.

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Speaker 8: Well, what is it, officers?

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Speaker 4: What can I do for you?

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Speaker 8: You have a brother, Is that right, sir or Russell Snow.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's right.

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Speaker 4: Russ is my brother.

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Speaker 8: You know, we'd like to locate him if we could.

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Do you know where we can find him?

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Speaker 3: No, I don't think I can.

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Speaker 4: Last I heard from Russ was about six months ago.

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Speaker 5: He said he was going to take a job in Minneapolis.

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Speaker 4: Not in trouble again, is he not?

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Speaker 3: That we know? I would like to locate him, man, So.

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Speaker 4: I don't think I can help you much. Russ is

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much of a letter writer.

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Speaker 5: Only time I hear from when he's in town.

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Speaker 4: We've checked.

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Speaker 8: At the last place your brother was staying, he told

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us he left word to forward all his mail here

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to you.

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Speaker 4: Is that right? Yeah, that's right. Russ asked me to

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take care of it. No letters have come through so far, though.

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Speaker 8: Were you to hang onto his mail or send it

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on to him in Minneapolis?

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Speaker 4: Now, I was going to hang on to him.

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Speaker 13: I said he'd picked up his mail next time he

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was through. Did I say that was six months ago?

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I haven't seen or heard from him since then.

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Speaker 3: You wouldn't know if he was actually in Minneapolis or nothing.

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Speaker 4: Well, no, I wouldn't. Yes, you know, my brother Russell

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had a police record. Yes, there we do.

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Speaker 13: Yeah, the trouble a couple of years ago that burglary wrapped.

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I think Russe learned his lesson.

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Speaker 3: Are you your brother's only living relative? I mean, is

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there anyone else in town who might have heard from him?

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Speaker 4: No?

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Speaker 13: I don't know, olser, excuse me just a minute, all right, kids,

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No running around the side of the pool.

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Speaker 1: You here he slip and break your neck.

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Speaker 3: No more running.

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Speaker 13: Sorry, you gotta watch him like the hawk. Yes, like

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I was saying, I can't think of anybody who might

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have heard from Russ. I'm his only relation. But he

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does have a few friends around time. I mean legitimate

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fellas you know. Yeah, he'd come around.

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Speaker 4: Once in a while, drop and say.

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Speaker 3: Hello, Have any of them heard from your brother?

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Speaker 13: He might have, but I didn't ask him. Jo Matt Garson,

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he's a good friend of my brothers. He was in

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the other day, but he didn't say anything about hearing

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from Russ. Might be that he has, Maybe he didn't

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think to mention it.

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Speaker 8: Where does this Matt Garson state?

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Speaker 4: You know, I really couldn't tell you, Officer.

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Speaker 13: That's a real character, kind of a fluater doesn't stay

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with one job more than two months, like last week

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when he was in here. He's a real pitchman. Give

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me a big sales talk, biggest boggain on earth. Said

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he'd tell me a couple of them, real cheap.

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Speaker 4: I didn't have any use fun. What's that for a coach?

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Speaker 8: Before we left, Snow gave us a complete description of

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Matt Garson, together with the names of five of Garson's

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acquaintances who might know of his whereabouts. When Ben and

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I got back to the city Hall, we checked Garson's

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name and description through R and I. He had a

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record of two fairly recent arrests, but no convictions. Both

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arrests were for suspicion of burglary. We checked on Garson's

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last known residence. He'd moved no forwarding address. His last

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place of employment was listed as the Parktivoli nightclub out

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on Wiltshire Boulevard. The Park Tivoli was one of the

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six places that we'd staked out as a possible working

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ground for the burglary gangs. Fingerman a place where he

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could spot expensively dressed persons, check on their home addresses

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and line them up as future burglary victims. Ben put

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in a call to the manager of the park, Tivoli

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to check on Garson's employment.

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Speaker 3: What was that you last July? I see, well, yes

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you We'll probably be out tonight, right, thank you boy?

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Speaker 8: What's again?

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Speaker 3: Garson worked out there all right? Parking lot a tenant.

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He quit lest you lie. He's the guy checking off

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the customer's first and jewels. He's in a explod manager

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told me that Garden has a girlfriend. She still works

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at the club. Might be the answer, Joe, Or how

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do you figure she runs a hat set stand.

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Speaker 7: You are in the communications division of a metropolitan police department.

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The teletype room.

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Speaker 9: Forty three Los five twenty nine fifty one twelve oh

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three pm ap B WMA one fifty five six. Dark haired,

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dark eyes, wearing gray suit, no hat. Suspect is wearing glasses,

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heavy build, twenty two years Suspect is armed with blue

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steel revolver. Any information forward.

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Speaker 7: You have just heard a teletype description of a suspect.

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This information will apply to many, but careful screening will

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eliminate all but one.

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Speaker 8: One of the biggest problems that faces a police officer

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working the burglary detail is not only apprehending the thief,

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but also recovering the stolen property. Dozens of criminals of

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this type will spend five, ten or even fifteen years

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in prison if they know that on their release they

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will have a stake of thousands of dollars in stolen

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property which they've hidden somewhere to start over again with.

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Thursday January twenty sixth to five pm, we got out

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a broadcast and an APB on the burglary suspect Matt Garson.

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Then we began checking back on his girlfriend, Virginia Ramsey,

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who worked as a hat check girl at the Park

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Tivoli nightclub on Wilshire Boulevard. It was one of the

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six probable places where we thought that the fingerman for

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the burglary gang was lining up potential victims. Despite the

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fact that she often associated with known criminal suspects, the

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Ramsey girl had no previous criminal record herself. That night,

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after she reported in for work at the club, Ben

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and I checked her apartment. In one of the closets

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we found three expensive fur coats. They were all identified

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as property taken in previous burglaries by the gang. In

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a strong box in the desk, we found a half

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a dozen pieces of expensive jewelry, also identified on the

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stolen property list. Ben and I got in the car

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and drove to the Park Tavy Nightclub.

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Speaker 11: Your hat, sir, check your hat?

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Speaker 3: Your name Virginia Ramsey.

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Speaker 8: Yes, that's right, police officers. Miss Ramsey, like talk to

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you downtown.

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Speaker 11: I beg your pardon.

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Speaker 8: Say we're police officers. There's our identification. Like to talk

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to you downtown.

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Speaker 11: What's it all about?

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Speaker 3: I haven't done anything, then, there's no reason to worry.

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We'd just like to ask you a few questions, that's all.

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What about Remember the name of Matt Garson. Understands you

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know him quite well?

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Speaker 11: No, I don't know. I don't even know what you're

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talking about.

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Speaker 8: I want to get your coat, Miss Ramsey. We'll talk

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it over downtown. Huh.

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Speaker 11: I'm working now. Let's not be off till two o'clock.

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I can't just walk off the chib.

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Speaker 8: We just talked to the manager. He's going to have

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one of the other girls take your place. Do you

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want to get your coat?

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Speaker 4: Police?

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Speaker 11: All right? You sure you checked with the manager. I

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don't want to lose my job leaving like we talked

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to him.

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Speaker 8: It's all right this way. Please have the side door.

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Speaker 11: Like to know what this whole thing's all about. I

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think I have a right to me pulling you off

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a job like this.

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Speaker 8: We told you, Miss Ramsey, it's about a friend of yours,

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Matt Garson. He used to work here at the club,

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didn't he?

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Speaker 11: I wouldn't know a lot of people work here. I

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don't know him all. Why should you want him anyway?

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Speaker 8: Do you know him?

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Speaker 11: I think I might, yes, I'm not sure. Why do

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you want him?

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Speaker 8: For interrogation? Just like to ask him a few questions?

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Why you're ready to admit that you know Garson?

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Speaker 11: I think I might, Yeah, I know him.

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Speaker 3: I want to get in, Miss Ramsey.

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Speaker 11: Still don't know what it's all about. Why do you

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want Matt Garson.

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Speaker 8: The same reason we want you? Suspicion of burglary.

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Speaker 11: You don't know what you're talking about. You can't prove

474
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anything against me.

475
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Speaker 8: We already have, Miss Huh. We found three fur coachs

476
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in your apartment. There was some jewelry there too.

477
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Speaker 11: Those things are mine, every one of them. They're all mine.

478
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Speaker 8: Might come on, you're wasting time. They're stolen property, you

479
00:21:05,799 --> 00:21:06,039
know that.

480
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Speaker 3: How about it?

481
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Speaker 8: Miss?

482
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Speaker 3: You want to tell us about Matt Garson. Where is

483
00:21:09,279 --> 00:21:10,720
he told?

484
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Speaker 11: You told your first time? I don't know him.

485
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Speaker 8: Ten PM we drove the suspect of Virginia Ramsey downtown

486
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to the City Hall and took her to the interrogation room.

487
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We questioned her continuously until well past midnight. She refused

488
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to admit anything. We gave her time to rest a

489
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little and set out for some food. Then we resumed

490
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the interrogations. Two am. The Ramsey girls still refused to

491
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admit any connection with Matt Garson, his friend Russell Snow,

492
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or any members of the burglary gang. We stayed with it.

493
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By four am, we'd halfway convinced her that protecting the

494
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members of the gang wasn't the answer, that the best

495
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thing for her to do would be to cooperate. Five

496
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thirty AM.

497
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Speaker 11: I have a cigarette.

498
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Speaker 3: Yeah, here you.

499
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Speaker 11: I'll tell you about it. I know Matt Garson, he's

500
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one of the gang.

501
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Speaker 8: You know where he is.

502
00:22:09,519 --> 00:22:12,680
Speaker 11: No, he got me into it, he made me do it.

503
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There was anything else I can do?

504
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Speaker 8: What do you make you do?

505
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Speaker 11: Well? When I was checking coats and things at the club,

506
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I was supposed to watch for customers with money, expensive

507
00:22:21,839 --> 00:22:25,680
furs and jewels, I found out who they were, and

508
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then I'd tell Matt.

509
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Speaker 3: He'd tell the others.

510
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Speaker 11: One of them's Johnny Lang. There are a couple of others,

511
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but I don't know their names. Believe me, Sergeant Matt

512
00:22:38,279 --> 00:22:40,359
made me do it. He got me into it before

513
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I knew what it was all about. When I found out,

514
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he threatened to frame me if I didn't go along

515
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with him.

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Speaker 8: Do you know whereny of these men live where they

517
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hang out?

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Speaker 11: No, none of them, not even Matt. Ever since he moved,

519
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he wouldn't give me his new address.

520
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Speaker 8: Do you think Garsal will try to contact you with

521
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your apartment in the next few days? Maybe?

522
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Speaker 11: No, I don't think so, not till after the next job.

523
00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:04,400
They're waiting on it. No, they've been watching the house.

524
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Which else is that place out worst Hollywood wealthy people.

525
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They were in the club about a week.

526
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Speaker 8: Ago, and the gang's waiting for them to go out

527
00:23:12,039 --> 00:23:14,079
some night and leave their valuables at home, isn't it?

528
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Speaker 11: Yeah, it's right. Matt says. It's an easy house to

529
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break into. He thinks it ought to be sinch.

530
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Speaker 8: Matt, I don't know better.

531
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Speaker 11: Huh.

532
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Speaker 8: It's the easy ones you trip over before we booked

533
00:23:23,559 --> 00:23:26,279
her in on suspicion of burglary, Virginia Ramsey gave us

534
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the name and address of the people in West Hollywood

535
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who were supposedly the next victims on the burglary gang's list.

536
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Later in the morning, we drove out to see the people.

537
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A mister and missus Thomas Thornson told them the story

538
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and laid out our plans, which they agreed to. That night,

539
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the Thornsons left their home a few minutes before nine.

540
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They were simply dressed, no furs, no jewels. At nine

541
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thirty five, three men scaled a fence at the rear

542
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of the Thornton's home and broke in through a side door.

543
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Right behind them was a detail of a half a

544
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dozen officers who moved in and made the arrest. The

545
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three suspects were taken downtown, where they were identified as

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Russell Snow, Matt Garson, and Howard Ferris. We searched their apartments,

547
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their cars, and garages. There was no trace of the

548
00:24:09,559 --> 00:24:12,000
stolen property. Each of the men were brought to the

549
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interrogation room separately for questioning. Matt Garson was the first.

550
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He denied any knowledge of where the loop was hidden,

551
00:24:18,000 --> 00:24:19,680
that's the truth. I don't know where the stuff is.

552
00:24:19,799 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 4: I worked for the outfit, that's all.

553
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 3: And you've been working for three months without a payoff.

554
00:24:23,480 --> 00:24:24,519
Is that what you're trying to tell it?

555
00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:26,240
Speaker 4: Or we haven't been turned over everything.

556
00:24:26,240 --> 00:24:28,960
Speaker 3: We got hold not half of stuff, selling it on

557
00:24:29,000 --> 00:24:29,359
the side.

558
00:24:29,519 --> 00:24:31,000
Speaker 4: I just worked for the outfit, that's all.

559
00:24:31,119 --> 00:24:33,079
Speaker 3: That's not the way we get at Guyson. You're supposed

560
00:24:33,119 --> 00:24:36,000
to be the big man. You masterminded the deal. He

561
00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:37,759
who told you that?

562
00:24:37,799 --> 00:24:40,599
Speaker 8: Your girlfriend, Virginia Ramsey, We picked her up yesterday. She

563
00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:41,319
told us everything.

564
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Speaker 3: What'd you tell you?

565
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Speaker 8: You're the big man? Was your idea? You ran the works?

566
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Speaker 4: What about it? Garson?

567
00:24:48,039 --> 00:24:50,519
Speaker 3: Big joke, sergeant on both of us? What do you mean?

568
00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:52,480
You can ask the other boys. They'll tell you the

569
00:24:52,480 --> 00:24:54,559
same thing. We can prove it too. There's only one

570
00:24:54,599 --> 00:25:00,119
boss in this operation, man, Virginia Ramsey.

571
00:25:00,799 --> 00:25:02,920
Speaker 8: For a twenty three year old girl. It seemed like

572
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:05,759
a new record of some kind if it was true.

573
00:25:05,839 --> 00:25:08,799
We checked the other suspects, Russell Snow and Howard Ferris.

574
00:25:09,039 --> 00:25:12,440
They told us substantially the same story. The Ramsey girl

575
00:25:12,440 --> 00:25:15,400
had formulated all the plans and directed the entire operation

576
00:25:15,519 --> 00:25:18,680
of the gang since its inception. They insisted that they

577
00:25:18,680 --> 00:25:21,440
had no idea where the stolen property was hidden, but

578
00:25:21,519 --> 00:25:23,680
they did know that the Ramsey girl had a safety

579
00:25:23,720 --> 00:25:27,319
deposit box in a downtown bank. We made a canvas

580
00:25:27,319 --> 00:25:29,680
of banks in the downtown area, and a day later

581
00:25:29,720 --> 00:25:33,000
we located the safety deposit box listed in Miss Ramsey's name.

582
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We obtained a court order and the box was opened.

583
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In it, we found practically all of the stolen jewelry,

584
00:25:39,279 --> 00:25:42,279
almost fifty thousand dollars worth. Ben and I went back

585
00:25:42,319 --> 00:25:44,720
to the main jail where we had Virginia Ramsey signed

586
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out for investigation. We brought her to the interrogation room

587
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where we confronted her with the evidence.

588
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Speaker 11: I didn't think you'd find out. I didn't think you'd

589
00:25:52,079 --> 00:25:52,759
ever find out.

590
00:25:53,079 --> 00:25:55,640
Speaker 3: How about the first Miss Ramsey, I.

591
00:25:55,559 --> 00:25:57,599
Speaker 11: Got the key, you can have it. I rented a

592
00:25:57,599 --> 00:25:59,680
private garage. I got some stored in there, all of

593
00:25:59,720 --> 00:26:02,440
them just about Yeah, you picked up the others in

594
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my apartment.

595
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Speaker 8: How'd you manage to run this whole operation? Those men

596
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:08,559
you had working for you, you cut them in for practically nothing.

597
00:26:08,599 --> 00:26:10,279
They were experts, the best in the business.

598
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Speaker 11: That's why I hired them. They're the best. It's too

599
00:26:14,279 --> 00:26:18,480
bad she had worked out too bad, didn't go You had.

600
00:26:18,319 --> 00:26:20,440
Speaker 3: A pretty fair run.

601
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Speaker 11: Wasn't that bad for me? Wasn't only twenty three? First

602
00:26:24,519 --> 00:26:25,880
time I ever tried anything like it?

603
00:26:26,119 --> 00:26:27,240
Speaker 3: What gave you the idea?

604
00:26:28,640 --> 00:26:32,720
Speaker 11: I don't know. I wanted things pretty smart setup, though,

605
00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:35,640
don't you think so? Wouldn't you say I played the

606
00:26:35,680 --> 00:26:36,559
whole thing pretty smart?

607
00:26:36,920 --> 00:26:37,079
Speaker 4: Oh?

608
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Speaker 8: I don't know. You figured what You're in jail, aren't you.

609
00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,359
Speaker 2: The story you have just heard was true, only the

610
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names were changed to protect the innocent. On March twenty eighth,

611
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the trial was held in Superior Court, Department eighty nine,

612
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City and County of Los Angeles, State of California.

613
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Speaker 4: A moment the.

614
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Speaker 2: Results of that trial, twenty three year old Virginia Ramsay,

615
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the leader of the gang, was tried and convicted on

616
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four counts of first degree burglary and four counts of

617
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receiving stolen property. The three male members of the gang

618
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were convicted of first degree burglary, also four counts. They

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are now serving their terms in the state penitentiary. First

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degree burglary is punishable by imprisonment for not less than

621
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five years. Receiving stolen property is punishable by imprisonment for

622
00:27:36,839 --> 00:27:40,079
not less than six months no more than five years.

623
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Ladies and gentlemen, vacation time is here again, and a

624
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great many of you will be taking trips in your automobile.

625
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Danger is never absent from the highways of America.

626
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Speaker 8: Be careful.

627
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Speaker 6: The care you take may save a life, and that

628
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life may be your own.

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Speaker 7: You have just heard Dragnet, a series of authentic cases

630
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from official fireouts. Technical advice comes from the Office of

631
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Chief of Police wh Parker, Los Angeles Police Department.

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Speaker 6: Stay tuned for counters by next over most NBC.

633
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Speaker 1: Stations, Welcome back. I hate to attack the honor of

634
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:35,759
Finnish burglars. That's one of those senses you just never

635
00:28:35,839 --> 00:28:39,079
expect to say. But the real reasons they don't rob

636
00:28:39,279 --> 00:28:42,880
houses when people are there is because they don't want witnesses.

637
00:28:43,279 --> 00:28:47,039
And this case illustrates why, as that one error led

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00:28:47,079 --> 00:28:50,160
to the police getting their big lead and ultimately prison

639
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:53,960
time for all involved. Well, now we turn to listener

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00:28:54,039 --> 00:28:57,920
comments and feedback, and we're going over to Spotify with

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a comment from Harrison who Rights regarding the Big Cleft.

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I went to bed last night and I had a

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wife sounds like the start of a traveling Willburry song.

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Romero's yeah, and his Joe, I wouldn't worry about it.

645
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We'll call it a white lie. Both caught me off

646
00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:22,599
guard for different reasons, but both deserved a radio award

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for delivery. He delivers laugh and can tug on the heart.

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Another reason he's my favorite partner of Joe's. There's a

649
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restaurant called Cephalous, so I'm picturing a waiter giving an

650
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autopsy report. Well, thank you so much. I appreciate the comments.

651
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I had actually look up the Traveling Willberry's and I

652
00:29:42,000 --> 00:29:45,279
thought they were really obscure, but it was actually a

653
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super group of musicians including Bob Dylan, George Harrison, jeff Lynn,

654
00:29:53,519 --> 00:29:58,559
Roy Overson and Tom Petty and even someone whose knowledge

655
00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:05,119
of rock music is so woefully low, I can recognize

656
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that that would have been an amazing gro So thanks

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for expanding my knowledge a little bit. Marton Yarborough definitely

658
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brings a different dynamic, and you rarely get the sort

659
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of comedy sketch effectively that you got when you get

660
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into the sort of Ben Alexander and Harry Morgan eras

661
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as Friday's partner, but there are all these nice, little,

662
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understated bits of humor that really make him a believable cop.

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And Yarborough, definitely, I think is a bit underrated in

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part because he got because of his accent, sort of

665
00:30:46,920 --> 00:30:51,200
natural accent, he got a lot of random Texas person

666
00:30:51,799 --> 00:30:54,759
roles that could be a bit one dimensional, but he

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00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,359
was a talented actor and really brought something great to

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drag it. Thanks so much, appreciate your comments. And now

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it is time to thank our Patreon supporter of the day,

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and I want to thank Mark, Patreon supporter since March

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twenty twenty, currently supporting the podcast at the shawmus level

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of four dollars or more per month. Thanks so much

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for your support, Mark, and that will do it for today.

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here tomorrow for yours truly Johnny dollar Ware.

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Speaker 14: Well, what's it all about, Lee, Well, the floods along

681
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:47,599
the Ohio and pretty severe this year Johnny somewhat later

682
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than usual.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, that much.

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Speaker 14: I did read about half a dozen of the big

685
00:31:50,759 --> 00:31:53,279
cities have been taking a real beating in spite of

686
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all their preparations for the big run on that's been

687
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through all over the country. Well, what you don't read

688
00:31:58,359 --> 00:32:00,880
about in the headlines, though, is a little place like Carterret.

689
00:32:02,079 --> 00:32:04,759
It's my old hometown, Johnny. I've sold a lot of

690
00:32:04,759 --> 00:32:08,200
policies there, particularly to the local shopkeepers.

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Speaker 4: You know, on their.

692
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Speaker 14: Stocks and merchandise. So there's been a lot of flood

693
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damage and your company's having to pay up a lot

694
00:32:12,359 --> 00:32:15,599
of claim Not yet. So far, the town's been lucky.

695
00:32:16,079 --> 00:32:17,720
Most of the recent bad storms have been across the

696
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state line up in Pennsylvania or over in West Virginia,

697
00:32:21,640 --> 00:32:22,440
the same as too.

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Speaker 3: Last year and the year before.

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Speaker 4: So the people.

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Speaker 14: Gone around Cottaret farmers mostly haven't gone ahead with their

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flood control project the way they should have.

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Speaker 4: It's kinda red right on the Ohio.

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Speaker 14: No, it's in a valley a few miles north. It's

704
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on the Crooked River, and parts of the town are

705
00:32:37,839 --> 00:32:40,720
actually below the river bank. And you see what that means.

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00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:41,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I sure can.

707
00:32:42,359 --> 00:32:45,160
Speaker 14: Most of the year it's a quiet, lazy stream about

708
00:32:45,160 --> 00:32:48,279
fifty or sixty feet wide. But when the feeder streams

709
00:32:48,359 --> 00:32:51,160
up in the hills start pouring water down and never

710
00:32:51,319 --> 00:32:54,160
overflows half a time, will go with it and swept

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right down into the Ohio.

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