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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to KFI AM six forty the Bill handles

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<v Speaker 1>show on demand on the iHeartRadio f As you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm back from my vacation and I went to Ireland

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<v Speaker 1>and to Italy. And since you know, I'm a news junkie,

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<v Speaker 1>and you know, I'm really involved in presidential politics, not

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<v Speaker 1>personally but just following it. And you know where I

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<v Speaker 1>sit in terms of this election coming up, So there's

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<v Speaker 1>obviously no secret there. But I'm interested in what other

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<v Speaker 1>people think about America a particularly the presidential coming up

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<v Speaker 1>in a couple of weeks. And so every time I

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<v Speaker 1>ran in anybody, taxi drivers, people who were lining up

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<v Speaker 1>at tourist areas, sitting in airports, talking to people, I

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<v Speaker 1>would ask, what do you think about the presidential election?

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<v Speaker 2>And while we don't care about what's.

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<v Speaker 1>Happening in Ireland and how many people can mention that

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<v Speaker 1>there or know about the prime minister who's president of Italy,

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<v Speaker 1>no one does.

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<v Speaker 2>We don't pay attention to any of this.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you what they do is pay attention

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<v Speaker 1>to us big time. The world follows American politics, especially

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<v Speaker 1>the presidency.

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<v Speaker 2>And there are a couple of reasons for that.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, the United States is still known and

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<v Speaker 1>considered the leader of the free world, both economically as

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<v Speaker 1>well as militarily, and so when things change, things change.

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<v Speaker 1>For example, one of the themes about the presidential is

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<v Speaker 1>fear of Donald Trump if he wins. Not what he's

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<v Speaker 1>going to do domestically, but what are you going to

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<v Speaker 1>do overseas? For example, pull out of NATO. They're scared

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<v Speaker 1>to that NATO is going to be decimated. The US

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<v Speaker 1>is the primary contributor of both arms and money and

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<v Speaker 1>people in NATO, and they're frightened now. Donald Trump, to

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<v Speaker 1>his credit, threatened to pull out of NATO if people

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<v Speaker 1>didn't come to the table, if the country didn't come

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<v Speaker 1>to the table and pay their share of what was

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<v Speaker 1>agreed to.

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<v Speaker 2>Good for him for doing that. The fear, though, is

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<v Speaker 2>since Donald Trump is.

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<v Speaker 1>More isolationist than that, he's going to pull the United

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<v Speaker 1>States back and we're going to become more i would say,

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<v Speaker 1>more concerned about our domestic issues than what happens internationally.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, we've done that before prior to World War Two.

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<v Speaker 1>The isolationists a matter of fact, one of the premier

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<v Speaker 1>ones was Charles Lindberg stay out of the war it's

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<v Speaker 1>their war. It's their war. Matter of fact, FDR kept

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<v Speaker 1>on saying, it's their war. I'm not sending troops over there.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not going to send American boys over there, even

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<v Speaker 1>though he wanted to, because there was such a backlash.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's happened before, and if Trump wins, they're frightened

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<v Speaker 1>that it's going to happen again, where the United States

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<v Speaker 1>is not going to be the force that supports Europe

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<v Speaker 1>for the fear of a Russian invasion.

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<v Speaker 2>For the most part, that's what NATO.

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<v Speaker 1>Was created for, and that is what it still is

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<v Speaker 1>involved with, especially now that you've got crazy guy putin

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<v Speaker 1>over there that doesn't seem to care and he's become

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<v Speaker 1>a rogue dictator. So one of one of those aspects

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<v Speaker 1>is fear of the United States no longer being involved

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<v Speaker 1>internationally because of the isolationists thinking of Donald Trump and

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<v Speaker 1>Republicans the other theme, and they don't care what Trump says.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, we care about Alner, Donald Palmer

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<v Speaker 1>and the size of his schwantz. Everybody's making a big

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<v Speaker 1>deal about it because at a rally, Trump just argued

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<v Speaker 1>what a big Johnson Palmer had a right fine, They

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't care less. You know, what they don't do is

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<v Speaker 1>understand our politics. They just don't get Donald Trump. They

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<v Speaker 1>just don't understand him. They don't understand our Second Amendment.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't get it. We don't understand what that's about. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>it's in our constitution. Okay, it's in your constitution. Now

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<v Speaker 1>what why are Americans so obsessed with arms?

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<v Speaker 2>They don't understand that.

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<v Speaker 1>They don't understand why we don't have a national health system.

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<v Speaker 1>There is no industrialized country in the world that does

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<v Speaker 1>not have a national health system except the United States.

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<v Speaker 2>They just don't get it. What's that about?

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<v Speaker 1>So those with a two overriding themes that I got

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<v Speaker 1>from the Europeans. Number one fear of isolationism and number

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<v Speaker 1>two simply not understanding what America is all about, more

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<v Speaker 1>so than they've ever not understood, and so they don't

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<v Speaker 1>want to be on their own. They still look at

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<v Speaker 1>America even though it is not the power it once was.

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<v Speaker 1>After World War Two, the United States owned the world.

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<v Speaker 1>All of Europe was destroyed. You had Japan, who was

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<v Speaker 1>who was one of our primary our primary sort I'm

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<v Speaker 1>looking for here, I'll get there. I'm just I'm in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of jet lag, enemy one of our primary enemies.

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you very much, Jamie. It was.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, she was gone. If you want to call Japana,

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<v Speaker 1>she Our country's always cheese by the way I think

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<v Speaker 1>they are. Yeah, anyway, Japan was gone, Europe was gone

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<v Speaker 1>and was the only standing country was the United States

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<v Speaker 1>are manufacturing our system of government? Well, is it the same? No,

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<v Speaker 1>because you have China as a world power, Russia that collapsed.

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<v Speaker 1>What was the world power? It's we're not in the

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<v Speaker 1>same league as we were, but we're still the leaders

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<v Speaker 1>of the free world. We're still the economic juggernaut of

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<v Speaker 1>the Western world, and we're considered the bastion of not

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<v Speaker 1>only freedom, but of military might that's going to save

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<v Speaker 1>the world, the Western world, as we did before.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and whenever I don't know a word, write it

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<v Speaker 2>down and hold it up, would you please?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, like they do with the Olympics nine point eight

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<v Speaker 1>eight point seven, you know that sort of thing, talking

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<v Speaker 1>to the astronauts board the space station, the International Space Station.

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<v Speaker 2>That's quite a get by the way, that kind of

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<v Speaker 2>an interview.

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<v Speaker 1>With Amy, I know, and tried for me to get

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<v Speaker 1>an interview, and we not only got to know there

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<v Speaker 1>was also are you kidding?

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<v Speaker 2>As part of the denial, So good for Amy.

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<v Speaker 1>Whenever any of the other hosts or news people get

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<v Speaker 1>these gets interview like that, we should all appreciate it

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<v Speaker 1>that one of our own has done that. I hate it,

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<v Speaker 1>and to be honest, so does everybody else. Amy, that

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<v Speaker 1>you were able to get that interview. So yeah, we

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<v Speaker 1>resent it.

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<v Speaker 2>Just to let you know. By the way, when is

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<v Speaker 2>the interview as it scheduled.

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<v Speaker 3>It's scheduled for this Wednesday morning. Ah, during wake up call.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm six am.

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<v Speaker 1>That's meat that is let's before do they have a

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<v Speaker 1>case with Wayne coming up at the bottom of the hour.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me tell you what's going on with the Veterans Administration.

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<v Speaker 1>If you go down to West LA sort of the

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<v Speaker 1>Brentwood area, you see the National Cemetery which is extraordinary,

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<v Speaker 1>thousands and thousands of graves meticulously kept, and then across

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<v Speaker 1>the street from that is the VA and the VA

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<v Speaker 1>the hospital.

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<v Speaker 2>Is there, administration is there.

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<v Speaker 1>But also on the VA land you've got well, let

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<v Speaker 1>me put it this way, you have the Jackie Robinson Stadium,

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<v Speaker 1>the parking lot. Also the Brentwood School has twenty two

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<v Speaker 1>acres and it is a twenty two acre sports complex

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<v Speaker 1>and Olympic pool, football stadium, basketball pavilion, tennis courts, baseball fields.

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<v Speaker 1>And the judge said, pursuing to a civil trial, he's

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<v Speaker 1>on you know why, because I want housing for veterans

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<v Speaker 1>to be on that land. And it's not just his

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<v Speaker 1>personal view, it is a legal decision based on the

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<v Speaker 1>fact that all of that land was given to the

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<v Speaker 1>United States I think it was eighteen eighty eight, came

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<v Speaker 1>under the Veterans Administration, and that land specifically is for

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<v Speaker 1>the use of veterans. The Jackie Robinson Stadium that is

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<v Speaker 1>not for the veterans, a Brentwood School, a private school

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<v Speaker 1>that is not for the veterans. And so the judge said,

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<v Speaker 1>we want housing. I want housing for veterans. And he

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<v Speaker 1>on Friday ordered the US Department of Veteran Affairs to

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<v Speaker 1>select a vendor within a week, have a contract within

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<v Speaker 1>three weeks after that to put up housing for veterans.

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<v Speaker 1>VA officials have to produce some temper housing in ninety

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<v Speaker 1>days before the rainy season.

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<v Speaker 2>Now.

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<v Speaker 1>Carter relaxes timeline on Friday, but pleaded that the contracting,

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<v Speaker 1>the site development, the installation well Okay, maybe can't do

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<v Speaker 1>it in ninety days, but we're going to do it

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<v Speaker 1>as soon as possible. And by the way, he still

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<v Speaker 1>keeps jurisdiction, so all the parties have to come up

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<v Speaker 1>with a plan and a contract.

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<v Speaker 2>And development.

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<v Speaker 1>Now can you do You can't do that in ninety days,

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<v Speaker 1>and he is basically said, too bad. He wants the

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<v Speaker 1>VA to create seven hundred and fifty units of temporary

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<v Speaker 1>housing within eighteen months on that campus, an additional eighteen

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<v Speaker 1>hundred permanent units over six years. And during that trial,

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<v Speaker 1>or at the conclusion of before we trial in which

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<v Speaker 1>the parties said, oh, no, we have leases, Judge said,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't care. Those leases are nullified because the VA

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<v Speaker 1>land was leased to private entities and this includes UCLA

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<v Speaker 1>and the Brentwood School, and this land is to be

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<v Speaker 1>used for veterans and you're not doing that. And the pool,

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<v Speaker 1>he was hilarious even said during the course of his decision,

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<v Speaker 1>and that is the pool that Brentwood has. I want

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<v Speaker 1>it filled with sand, and I want that done within

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<v Speaker 1>ninety days. I mean, this guy is getting really aggressive,

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<v Speaker 1>and he's right.

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<v Speaker 2>He's right. Veterans desperately need housing.

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<v Speaker 1>And when you have a piece of land that was

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<v Speaker 1>to be used for veterans and it's leased out.

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<v Speaker 2>No, no, that doesn't work.

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<v Speaker 1>Coming up, we end Monday with do they have a

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<v Speaker 1>case with Wayne Resnik? As he was a board ten

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<v Speaker 1>minutes after you've come back, the vacation never existed. It's

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<v Speaker 1>like you're done, and I'm completely jet lagged. As my

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<v Speaker 1>mother would say before she died, I am lagging jets and.

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<v Speaker 2>That is absolutely true.

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<v Speaker 1>My mother had a really nice way of speaking in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of all these wonderful phrases that she had.

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<v Speaker 2>Now it is time, as we do every Monday, for

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<v Speaker 2>do they have.

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<v Speaker 1>A case with Wayne? Wayne Resnick and me? So Waine,

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<v Speaker 1>let's get right into it. And well, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>let me tell everybody the rules. Wayne comes up with

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<v Speaker 1>cases that I've never heard of, that you probably never

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<v Speaker 1>heard of, and these are usually.

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<v Speaker 2>Cases of first impression.

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<v Speaker 1>Usually it's appeals courts, and they decide on one which

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<v Speaker 1>way that they're going to go, and then I guess,

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<v Speaker 1>as you guess, hopefully a somewhat educational guess, and the

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<v Speaker 2>So let's do it Wayne, all right.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, in the late eighties, a man named Robert Bork

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<v Speaker 3>was nominated to the Supreme Court, and he was very controversial.

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<v Speaker 3>And one of the things that happened somebody got the

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<v Speaker 3>video rental store that he frequented to give them the

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<v Speaker 3>list of the videos that Robert Bork had checked out.

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<v Speaker 3>There was nothing salacious on it at all. In fact,

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<v Speaker 3>there was not even one R rated movie. So it

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<v Speaker 3>wasn't that it embarrassed him, but it was concerning that

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<v Speaker 3>the personal information of somebody would be given out. So

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<v Speaker 3>Congress passed the Video Privacy Protection Act that says a

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<v Speaker 3>videotape service provider can't disclose information. Fast forward to now,

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<v Speaker 3>this guy signs up with the NBA NBA dot com

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<v Speaker 3>on their website. They have videos of basketball things on

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<v Speaker 3>that website, and he also signs up for a newsletter,

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<v Speaker 3>the names of the videos that he watches, when he

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<v Speaker 3>they know what he's into. He sues and says this

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<v Speaker 3>they're revealing what videos he's watching. Again, there's nothing embarrassing here,

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<v Speaker 3>but it is a privacy issue. Well, the NBA, as

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<v Speaker 3>is a website, it's a newsletter, this is not a

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<v Speaker 3>video store, it's not video cassettes. This has not That

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<v Speaker 3>all the terms in that law are not defined. So

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<v Speaker 3>how do you know it doesn't apply to a video

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<v Speaker 3>on a website. Let's go to the courts and they

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<v Speaker 3>keeping in mind that the law does not define any

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<v Speaker 3>about videotapes at video stores. And you have no case?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, First of all, Oh good, that's interesting.

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<v Speaker 1>First of all, as far as defining whether or not

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<v Speaker 1>on the website, I don't see how big a difference

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<v Speaker 1>it is than releasing information by renting a video cassette.

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<v Speaker 1>You can't rent video cassettesa anymore therefore the law doesn't.

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<v Speaker 2>Apply at all.

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<v Speaker 1>The premise of the law is to keep private your

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<v Speaker 2>The only argument.

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<v Speaker 2>They have to have some specificity.

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<v Speaker 1>So I'm guessing that the court ruled that releasing of

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know what the damages are. I have no

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<v Speaker 2>But obviously he didn't do it on his own.

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<v Speaker 1>There were some pro privacy organizations or law firms that

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<v Speaker 2>On the books.

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<v Speaker 1>So I am saying that the court upheld the federal

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<v Speaker 3>Yes, and I like the way you said it. Nowhere

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<v Speaker 3>no difference between going to a website and watching a

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<v Speaker 3>video there, or renting a video cassette for the purpose

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<v Speaker 3>of your privacy. But they said he has a case

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<v Speaker 3>and the NBA does not.

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<v Speaker 2>M Now what happened? Do they go forward with that?

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<v Speaker 1>I guess the NBA does just to establish and META

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<v Speaker 1>to establish the value of the information that's being given

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<v Speaker 1>to them by the NBA through the use of this,

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<v Speaker 1>because data mining is everything. That's where the big money

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<v Speaker 1>is on anything that you are looking at in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of websites or chat roobs or any interest or looking

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<v Speaker 1>up information on Amazon, you know what's on sale, all

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<v Speaker 1>of that. I mean, you know, I'll by stuff and

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<v Speaker 1>I immediately get pop ups, you know, constantly, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I come on, I'm tired of it. You know, marital aids,

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<v Speaker 3>There's an easy answer to this, just so you know

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<v Speaker 3>that you can give out the information if the customer consents.

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<v Speaker 3>All we really have to do is allow you say, Hey,

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<v Speaker 3>do you mind if we share your information so we

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<v Speaker 3>can give you ads you want to see instead of

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<v Speaker 3>ads you don't want to see, like Bill with his lube.

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<v Speaker 2>That's true. Okay, We're done. Guys, at least for the

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<v Speaker 1>Let's come back and we'll go into another case as

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<v Speaker 2>Do they have a case on a Monday?

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<v Speaker 1>do they have a case?

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<v Speaker 2>As we end our Monday broadcast.

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<v Speaker 3>Bill, I'm going to start this with a personal question

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<v Speaker 3>to you. Yeah, in the shower do you use for

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<v Speaker 3>washing your body? Do you use your hand? Do you

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<v Speaker 3>use a washcloth? Do you use a loof Uh? What

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<v Speaker 2>I use a loofh oh.

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<v Speaker 3>Well, then you are kind of guy you would like

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<v Speaker 3>Charles Douglas Yoder. He also likes to use a loofah.

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<v Speaker 3>Sometimes they're called body puffs in the shower. However, he

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<v Speaker 3>has a problem you don't have. He's in prison, and

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<v Speaker 3>although they sell lufahs in the prison commissary, they will

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<v Speaker 3>not sell one to him because the prison rules are

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<v Speaker 3>lufahs are only for registered transgender inmates. Mister Yoda is

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<v Speaker 3>a cis gendered man.

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<v Speaker 2>But like what a cist gender, cis.

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<v Speaker 3>Gendered means you you agree with the gender that you

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<v Speaker 3>were born like a man a man. He's a man

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<v Speaker 3>and he identifies as a man.

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<v Speaker 1>And who was born a man, and he and that's

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<v Speaker 1>and he palmer with his huge fonts, a man's man.

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<v Speaker 2>As the president former President Trump.

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<v Speaker 3>Said, yes, yes, wasn't expecting to hear that callback on

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<v Speaker 3>the show this morning, but here we are. But you

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<v Speaker 3>are back. So they won't sell him the loofah because

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<v Speaker 3>he's just a guy. And they said, if you want

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<v Speaker 3>to buy a loofa from the prison commissary, you can

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<v Speaker 3>change your designated gender to female. We will then consider

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<v Speaker 3>you a trans inmate and then you are allowed to

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<v Speaker 3>buy the lufa. And he said, well, why is this rule?

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<v Speaker 3>And they said lufahs are a privilege item for trans prisoners,

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<v Speaker 3>which doesn't really explain why now it does it? So no,

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<v Speaker 3>he so he sues and the federal district court dismisses

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<v Speaker 3>his case and says, you don't you're not even stating

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<v Speaker 3>a case because you don't have a constitutional right to

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<v Speaker 3>buy something from the prison commissary, So how can you

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<v Speaker 3>have a case or acclaim. So he goes up to

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<v Speaker 3>the Court of Appeals where he explains and by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>sometimes I say he explains or he said, and I

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<v Speaker 3>mean as lawyers, he did all of this himself. And

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<v Speaker 3>he says that lower court judge is a moron. My

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<v Speaker 3>argument was not I have a constitutional right to buy

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<v Speaker 3>something from the commissary. My argument is this violates the

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<v Speaker 3>equal protection clause. If they don't want to sell lufus

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<v Speaker 3>to anybody, I have no case. Once they sell lufus

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<v Speaker 3>to anybody, they have to sell them to everybody unless

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<v Speaker 3>they can explain why it is necessary for running a

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<v Speaker 3>prison to treat people differently. That's my argument. Now, what

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<v Speaker 3>does the circuit court say, and what do you say

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<v Speaker 3>being a fan of the lufah Okay, First.

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<v Speaker 1>Of all, I think that the appellate court agreed with him,

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<v Speaker 1>and that the lower court judge was a moron. While

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<v Speaker 1>citizens do not have while people in prison do not

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<v Speaker 1>have the same right, First Amendment rights, etc.

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<v Speaker 2>And there is no constitutional right.

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<v Speaker 1>The discrimination here is so blatant, makes no sense whatsoever,

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<v Speaker 1>is so capricious, It is so discriminatory on its face.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he prevails. He does, which means the case

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<v Speaker 3>goes back down to the moron judge with some guidance.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, they compliment this guy throughout their opinion. He

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<v Speaker 3>must have written some very well reasoned arguments. They complimented him.

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<v Speaker 3>They said, we don't. We're not even sure what standard

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<v Speaker 3>of scrutiny we have to apply here. We don't have

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<v Speaker 3>to decide. We'll make the lower court decide. But even

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<v Speaker 3>if we say it's the lowest possible standard, rational basis standard,

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<v Speaker 3>even under that it's most favorable to the prison, this

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<v Speaker 3>guy's case should not have been dismissed. So he gets

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<v Speaker 3>to go have his day in court, and that lower

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<v Speaker 2>It's the way it goes. Two for two. I did today,

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<v Speaker 2>you did.

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<v Speaker 3>So.

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<v Speaker 1>We were talking about the lawsuit in UH which the

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<v Speaker 1>League suit about its information being used and releasing UH

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<v Speaker 1>its information to META. And it occurred to me, why

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<v Speaker 1>I'm getting so many pop ups to go to.

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky and move there.

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<v Speaker 1>Now it's kind of a stretch, okay, and you figure

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<v Speaker 1>it out.

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<v Speaker 2>Kentucky does it?

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<v Speaker 3>Does it have to do with two words that come

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<v Speaker 3>like come after Kentucky and people have.

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<v Speaker 1>To do with mailing a letter to Kentucky UH and

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<v Speaker 1>not mailing a letter, And that is what is the

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<v Speaker 3>Oh, geez, Louise Bill, it's a stretch. I'm not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>say it. Do you want to just reveal what you're

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? No, I'm not going to release it. People can

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out on their own, but it is. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a stretch, granted. All Right, Neil, just be as depraved

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I sir, am Wayne. We'll catch you again next Monday.

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<v Speaker 1>Thanks for filling in, by the way, you bottle while

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<v Speaker 1>I was gone. All right, this is OH We're back

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