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Speaker 1: All Star Toyota presents Off the Bench with Jacob Hester

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and Matt Flynn.

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Speaker 2: Okay, here we go where the.

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Speaker 1: Players get broken down, then science gets denied.

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Speaker 3: Got to come off the bench.

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Speaker 1: Hour two of Off the Bench Live from the Mercedes

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ben So Baton Rouge Studio starts now.

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Speaker 4: All right, welcome back in OTB one of four five

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ESPN Baton Rouge. It is now time to go to

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my guy, mister Ben Hartsock, Ohio state legend decade in

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the NFL, my colleague at sirius x him Benjamin.

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Speaker 3: How are we doing, sir?

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Speaker 5: Do well?

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Speaker 6: Hester, Good to.

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Speaker 7: See you, man. I don't know this Flynn guy though.

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Speaker 6: Here he's a little shifty.

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Speaker 7: I'm a little.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 3: You know this.

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Speaker 4: You gotta watch out for the quarterbacks always like you

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gotta keep both eyes on them.

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Speaker 7: Definitely absolutely good to see you guys.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, great to see you. Before we get into anything

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football related. Uh, you're a pageant dad, I mean, and

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you are thriving right now, sir.

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Speaker 7: Let me tell you something.

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Speaker 8: It was not on my bingo card that my oldest

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would get into pageants, but here we are, and I'm

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gonna bottom.

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Speaker 7: Line this thing.

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Speaker 8: It's a lot Wow, it is a lot. There's my

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oldest starting pageants two years ago. She was so fortunate

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she won a local pageant last summer. So she was

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missed Greater Atlanta's team. Big caveat she's in the team categories, right, Okay,

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so she gets to compete in Miss Georgia. That's a

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big deal. Whoever wins Miss Georgia goes to Miss America. Right,

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that's how these things go. It's like the playoff system,

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and she goes down to this Miss Georgia festival. I

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guess it's the only way you can call it. They

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don't just compete Saturday. Saturday is the big finish. They

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got their last Thursday. Guys, they checked in. I rented an.

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Speaker 7: Airbnb in Columbus, Georgia for ten.

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Speaker 2: Days, ten days, ten days.

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Speaker 7: This is like burning Man for pageants. It's bananas. Bananas.

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Speaker 3: Wait, why didn't you just pull the RV up?

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Speaker 6: Oh?

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Speaker 8: Because mom and Dad are coming down from Ohio to

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to soak in the festivities tomorrow. They're staying in the

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RF as a secondary casita. It's over at the Pine

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Woods RV Resort just outside.

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Speaker 7: Columbus, Georgia, so that we can stay as a family

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in the Airbnb.

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Speaker 8: And you know what's funny about pageanting is do you

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remember at the combine guys, how you're trying to be

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like Johnny good teammate, Like, all.

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Speaker 9: Right, bro, go kill it on the bench press. I

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hope you get one hundred reps. Oh dude, I hope

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your vertical is like six feet bro, Like, really, you

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hope the guy trips, You hope the guy falls down.

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You're not really rude to that guy. It's that plus.

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Speaker 8: More in the pageant realm oh, your outfit is fire.

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Speaker 3: It is you know what I keep down.

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Speaker 8: Every one of these girls hopes that the other girl

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gets a massive zip right in the middle of their nose.

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Speaker 7: That's all this is. That's all this is. It's fake.

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It's fake juice, fake juice.

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Speaker 3: Oh my gosh.

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Speaker 4: That is so good because you're exactly right, Like, yeah, Google,

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get that three cone drill, like no, I want the

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best three cone drill, like Darren McFadden, Like, I hope

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you slipped three times actually on this drill before you go.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, exactly, that's exactly.

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Speaker 8: But it's it's an incredible thing. It's weird to have

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she graduated high school. I've got a high school graduate.

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I've got a younger that's now a rising junior. Life

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comes at you fast. Which, by the way, how about

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the fact that your boy, Philip Rivers, your boy Philip

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Rivers has got a kid committed, Like all of our

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old teammates are getting to that where our kids are

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going to college. The tweet I sent you a couple

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weeks ago had me cracking up. It was saying that

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every other year, we're gonna have a Philip Rivers son

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going to be a college quarterback, just like the Fast.

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Speaker 7: And Furious movie series. Like that's the kind of the rhythm.

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Speaker 4: Funny enough, The guy who put that tweet out, Chris Marler,

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works for us here at this station.

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Speaker 3: So good man, you didn't even know that when you

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send it to me. But I will say this, though

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it's a great tweet, but seven of.

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Speaker 4: Ten or girls for Philip, So football wise, right, you're

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gonna have a little bit of a gap. We're not

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gonna get the banger Fast and Furious movies every other

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year because you know, other sports, but just not football.

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Speaker 3: With the River Skips.

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Speaker 8: Next time you talk to Philip, tell them don't let

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those girls do pageants.

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Speaker 7: Stay as far away as possible.

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Speaker 3: Oh, I love it.

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Speaker 4: I love it so yeah, I definitely want to ask

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you about that. You did say it was kind of

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like the playoff. There give me Ben hart Socks, because look,

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you and I did radio together for a very long time.

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Now you do the show before my show, so we

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don't get a chance to But you and I have

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always had great conversations, open conversations about the future of

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college football. I was like at SEC spring meetings, and

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so I heard a lot from ads and coaches and

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what they wanted to do. What does Ben Hartsock want

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to do with the college football playoff?

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Speaker 6: Yeah?

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Speaker 8: I mean, honestly, I think we are in an era

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in society that we are designer everything. We wanted to

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design every perfect possible outcome, whether you're a high school

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kid trying to be a start or a middle school

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kid trying to start on high schoo whether you're high

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school kid trying to play in college, a college kids

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trying to play in pros, the college team trying to

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make it to the playoff.

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Speaker 7: We want to fine tune. It's risk of mitigation.

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Speaker 8: It's like ruben Feffer from a Long Game, Polly, you

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want to mitigate your risk and make your desired outcome

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as high as you possibly could. And the postseason, the

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fact that we've had one iteration of the twelve team

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playoff and immediately we're starting to fine tune it. We

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want to tweak it just a little bit to get

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a more perfect outcome. Like I understand there it might

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be justified to make that adjustment to go from conference

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championship seating to straight seating because of last year's output,

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team that deserved to get a buy as a championship team,

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you know, will be taken to have that taken from them,

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and it will then we'll be like, well, we need

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to switch it to something else. So I think all

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of this stuff and the playoff is no different. We

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are very much in an era where we can change

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these things and fine tune them, and as a result,

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maybe we'll have a more balanced bracket like we didn't

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have this year.

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Speaker 7: But the unattended.

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Speaker 8: Consequence is the meaningfulness of the conference championship games is diminished.

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Those winner go home games and or the buy that

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they certainly do.

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Speaker 4: And you know, the big talk down in spring meetings,

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was you know, the formats going to change?

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Speaker 3: Like what we wanted to change too.

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Speaker 4: That was one of the changes been obviously, like changing

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the seating process. But it's like, now, okay, let's get

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to sixteen teams. And for me, I'm in favor of going, Hey,

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five automatic qualifiers if you win your conference. I am

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all for that, because winning your conference should mean something

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like you should get in there and then.

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Speaker 3: Eleven at largest.

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Speaker 4: I do not need four bids automatically to the SEC,

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four to the Big Ten.

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Speaker 3: I just don't need that.

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Speaker 4: I need the eleven best teams after the five champion.

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three of us won a national championship in the BCS system.

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Let's go to something like that because in college baseball

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and softball we have what we always talk about RPI.

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Speaker 3: What do we talk about in basketball season?

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Speaker 4: We got kimpalm, we got net raids, right, we got

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all these rankings, all these numbers, all these analytics. We

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can do something similar in football and we kind of

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did with the BCS. So for me, let's get the

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eleven best after the champions and no matter what conference

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they're in, let's put them in.

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Speaker 8: So one thing, I don't disagree with you, the five

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plus eleven feels the most merit based. But what I

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don't want to do is I don't want to go

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back to the algorithm.

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Speaker 7: I've been saying this a bunch recently, like there is

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Speaker 8: The FPI for ESPN came out last week and we

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talked to Bill Connolly, a lot who does SP plus

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all these data metrics.

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Speaker 7: A pastor said this to us. It might have been

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a year or more ago.

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Speaker 8: Pastor said, our kids don't need us today anymore for

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any kind of information. If our kids want to know

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how to clean a carburetor or build a nuclear bomb,

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that's all available on the internet very very easily. But

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what our kids need us is interpretation. And then the

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same way with data. We've got so much. We can

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find out any data point on any team at the

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snap of the finger. It's the analysis of that data

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and an algorithm that is you know, the KPIs, the fpis,

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the SP plus. These things are algorithms that are only

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as good as the formulas that you put into it.

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Speaker 7: That might be weighted.

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Speaker 8: You know what one team or one guy thinks that

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third down percentage is weighted higher than red zone efficiency,

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and so I want to have humans be involved in

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the analysis all the way to the end. That eye

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test matters to me. And I'm not saying.

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Speaker 7: Only ballplayers or coaches can be the people to do it.

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Speaker 8: There's plenty of people that have never stepped foot on

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a field that know how to now analyze football. The

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BCS era, remember we want bananas. The sporting public went

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bananas because we can't have just computers making this decision.

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We computers can't watch football. So I want to make

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the people in the room the committee. Maybe you could

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make that more transparent. You could make a c span

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and live stream that that process. I want the humans

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in the building, one because I think the human eye

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is necessary. And two, I think the biases that you

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can never get away from. Eight years in the radio,

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I've learned you're not gonna eliminate all bias. Can I

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be objective towards my team? Can you be objective towards

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your team? Absolutely? But your lived experience gives you a

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little different worldview. And that's part of college football's charm

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is some of the unreasonable and the human foiable nature

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of it all.

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Speaker 2: I think you said it best.

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Speaker 10: As long as people have transparency in anything, especially with this,

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I think we can all at least get on board

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with it, Like you make a decision. I disagree with

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thee whatever it is, at least I know why you're

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not locked in a room for hours and then you'll

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just come and tell us and we have to accept it.

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But I think we can all agree that there's not

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a perfect system. Whether you use algorithms, computers, people, whatever

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it is, there's gonna be people that get pissed off.

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There's gonna be arguments made against. I think all we

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can hope for as fans of college football is that

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they're improvement. We want to see the most deserving and

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we want to see the best. How do you figure

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Speaker 3: No, there's not.

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Speaker 4: But I mean the transparency they are talking about, I

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think that would help. I always talk about this, and

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Ben's heard me go off on this, like if an

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official makes a bad call, because if you threw an interception,

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if Ben missed the block, if I fumbled, we had

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to answer the question after the game count why did

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you do it?

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Speaker 3: What happened? And I would love that from officials.

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Speaker 4: Hey, I called this because I saw this kind of

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the same system, Like, hey, let's get in those rooms.

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You know how many people ben you do know would

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watch that like behind the doors college Football Playoff Committee

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and you know whatever analytics that they're using, and they're

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going over it and hear those conversations of what those

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ads and presidents, former coaches. I would tune into every

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single minute of that.

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Speaker 8: You guys said, well, hold on before I start my story,

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are you guys on a heart out?

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Speaker 3: Do I have a heart out?

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Speaker 11: No?

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Speaker 3: No, Yeah, we had a letter rip.

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Speaker 6: Okay, So.

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Speaker 8: You guys we were all in locker rooms when the

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analytics era really washed over the NFL. Do you guys

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remember your first interactions with analytics?

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Speaker 3: I mean no, I do.

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Speaker 4: We had so we brought in somebody from the military

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into San Diego that I was probably twenty twelve and

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it was a former marine, and they like they would

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start to go over different things with us as far

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as you know, analytics to everything like pass protections and

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footwork and like all those things.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, they brought in somebody for sure.

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Speaker 7: So when I was it was this was during the

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Speaker 6: For me.

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Speaker 8: So eleven, twelve, thirteen, one of those years, we were

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down in the weight room the day after a Sunday game.

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We're on a Monday light workout. You know, y'all go

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through the corrections from the previous day. John Mascow, the

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O line coach for the team, came down and he

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goes boys by the scouts and the front office people upstairs.

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Speaker 7: They've got this new thing called.

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Speaker 6: Pro Football Focus, and they've.

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Speaker 7: Got this information that these guys have given every one

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of you jokers a great yeh.

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Speaker 8: And the front office people upstairs have given us to

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this info, to these coaches, this new data, and they

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say that we should make this part of our analysis.

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This should be part of our evaluation of you, day

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in day out.

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Speaker 3: And what do we do.

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Speaker 7: We're like a bunch of nerds. These guys don't know ball.

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You're telling me that some guy in.

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Speaker 8: The basement of his mom's of his mom's house is

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going to be able to say no, whether or not.

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Speaker 7: Me and so and so executed a double.

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Speaker 9: Team like well what I've wrote it at a well

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fast forward, real quick.

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Speaker 8: They had it broken down by team, They had us

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broken down by offensive unit. They had it broke it

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down a lot of different ways in that era. And

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now remember this was early. They had us broke down

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by tight ends. Would you like to know who was

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the number one over all ranked tight end in the

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entirety of the NFL in that early Pro Football Focus era.

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Speaker 3: I'm gonna say it's your favorite Hart, this guy, this

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guy and I.

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Speaker 8: We were like, whoa, whoa wait, let's let these guys cook.

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Speaker 7: They're onto something here. Maybe they know something we don't.

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Oh man, we had the biggest laugh at that expense.

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Speaker 8: But see, that's the point is that there was an

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out Pro Football Focus has.

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Speaker 7: Got an algorithm, ESPN's got an algorithm. On Three's got

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an algorithm, and it's only as good.

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Speaker 8: And for that era, it was early in that formula

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to where they had misweighted run blocking. I could handle

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myself at the point of attack. I get these two

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jumper cables on you.

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Speaker 7: I'm going to shock you, right.

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Speaker 5: But they had waited the run block too much and

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the pass protection too much, but not yet because I

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had a zero on the route running capability or passes received.

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Speaker 8: So that that it was a good example for me

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to point out these algorithms are good as a tool,

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but they're not the only tool that we should use.

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Speaker 6: No.

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Speaker 4: I mean, I'm right there with you. I think it

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can certainly be something that you use. And just like

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look when I start talking about RPI and NET and

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kim paly all those things, that's not how it's seeded.

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But it is something that they use and it is

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heavily involved in the committee because basketball has a committee,

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Football has it, you know, a committee, Baseball has a committee.

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All of these sports have committees. But those other sports,

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you know, have that, Hey, their strength to schedule. Hey,

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Ohio State this year, they had to go, you know,

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to Oregon, they had to go to Illinois, and they

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had to go to Michigan.

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Speaker 3: Like that should mean something.

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Speaker 4: So that's what I'm talking about with having that analytic

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strength to schedule and having because that's what we talk

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about with RPI. It's like this seems fourteenth in the country,

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but they got the third highest RPI because man, did

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you see who those son of a guns had to

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play on the road this year? And that's why I

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want to use that analytic Although it's not seeding it

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like a computer, humans are still doing it, but they

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have that resource.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, and to go back to the question of like,

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what do we want to change, what do we want

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to see? I love I think the SEC was floating

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this some of on championship weekend, conference championship weekend and

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having one verse two obviously being in the championship game,

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but then those bonus games that we got.

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Speaker 7: We got that.

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Speaker 8: During COVID right three verse four would face off five

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verse six. Kind of a good on good as in

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a world where hopefully two or three and four and

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four and five are going to be competing for justification

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to convince the committee we're good enough to make one

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of those at large bids. I think that's a really

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interesting and compelling and of course the networks are going

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to love it because it's content and more games or

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as conference championship weekends usually just the championship games. More

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content is never a bad thing.

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Speaker 3: I like that idea been on the way out here.

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Speaker 4: You and I have talked a lot of college baseball before,

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and I got with Bobby yesterday. I might look, hey,

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there's no Big ten teams. You know the old Big

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ten UCLA sure is in there. Can I count on

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you to root for the LSU Tigers in the College

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World Series.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 8: I mean I'm wanting to go down to Rocos Bar

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and order a bunch of jello shots.

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Speaker 7: Man, I'm doing my part. I'm ready to chip in.

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Speaker 3: Look have RV, will travel. That's all you got to

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tell me.

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Speaker 4: I know it's busy right now, it's got it's it's

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taking care of the pageant. But if it needs to

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go to Omaha, you let me know. We've talked about

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that before. I mean, you said you would pick me

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up in Treeport.

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Speaker 8: I know every year I say I'm going to get

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to more college basketball games, and then I don't, and

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then I want to get to Omaha, and I want

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to get to a baseball.

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Speaker 7: Game or softball to World Series, and I haven't.

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Speaker 8: These kids, man, pageant life's just sucking all my lass,

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my younger, it's you know, pageant life.

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Speaker 2: Man.

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Speaker 7: I'm telling you guys, your daughters keep them away from pageants.

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Speaker 8: I heard owning horses was the most expensive extracurricular a

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human can have.

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Speaker 7: No, it's pageants. Do not do pageants.

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Speaker 4: Oh hey, well you know now that you're in it,

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best of luck. I've had the chance to meet your daughter,

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so certainly rooting for her. Hope she goes out there

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and wins Miss Georgia and moves on, and you've got

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more money to spend.

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Speaker 7: Sr Yo, Man, Miss America is a whole news.

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Speaker 2: Let me imagine how many days, how many days he's.

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Speaker 4: Going to be there for twenty four days if we

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go Miss America. So hey, best of luck, Ben, you're

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the man. We appreciate it, sir, and look forward to

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the next conversation. Always appreciate you guys, have good one,

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all right, you as well? Our guy, Ben Hart Sock,

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Ohio state legend, a decade in the NFL in my

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colleague at serious XM.

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Speaker 3: Always one of my favorites.

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Speaker 2: Man, he's crushing it. Man. Yeah, I don't know. I've

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never spoke to him before, but I think he'd be I'll.

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Speaker 3: Never beer with.

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Speaker 4: Yes, Yes, he has got stories on stories on stories.

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Speaker 2: Uh huh.

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Speaker 3: He had.

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Speaker 4: Like I said, you played a decade in the NFL,

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and he played with the Colts and Peyton Manning and

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he played with Carolina so Greg Olsen and kind of

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that era of Carolina.

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Speaker 3: Then also played for the Falcons. It's funny.

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Speaker 4: He played for the Falcons I think for a year

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and that's where he chose to live. So he's from Ohio,

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played at Ohio State, longtime cold, longtime panther one year

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with the Falcons, and that's where he lives.

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Speaker 10: Was it like, uh, it's whereas that His wife just

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loved it. I fell in love with him. Love it

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good for them, you know. It's it's funny because every

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parent is you talk to all these parents, you know,

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our kids are at the age are still figuring out

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what they want to do. But are parents with older

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kids everything they do, They're like, oh, don't let your

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kids play soccer. Oh, don't let him swim, don't let

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them volleyball, do it, don't let them do this. But

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I think he might be the one that's right there

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on the whole. That's that's some long days expensive. My

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wife was pageant. Yeah, yeah, so I don't know. I

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don't I don't even really know her stance with my

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little girls in the pageant pageant world. So I'll being

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addressed to see I'm definitely going to relay this information.

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Speaker 2: Over though for sure ten days.

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Speaker 3: See, but you're you're I know, we got to take

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a break.

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Speaker 4: But like, so I have odd daughter, you have multiple daughters, right,

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and so like you might get away with that conversation like, hey,

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if we do this once, you know we're gonna do

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it twice. Like it's really expensive, Like the fact that

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we only have one daughter and four boys. I know

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that kid's gonna be like, oh really remember that travel

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baseball fee that we paid. Remember that tournament that we

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went to and spent thousands of dollars saying in a hotel.

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You remember that seven on seven tournament we had to

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travel across the country for and you didn't bat deny. Yeah,

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go buy the dress. I mean it's gonna be the

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whole conversation. Yeah, fair points, absolutely so. Yeah, we got break.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, we do.

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Speaker 4: We got Jerry Mitchell in about ten minutes from now

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joining us to break down LSU VERSUS Arkansas and really

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Dawson Creek Tuesdays here.

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Speaker 7: I'm gonna have to really go to the well on

478
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that one.

479
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Speaker 4: I got you, Okay, I got you. Gwenn's got you too.

480
00:22:50,519 --> 00:22:54,519
Don't like, don't let this man try to be too cool. Okay,

481
00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,559
let me tell you something I have I have. Listen.

482
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I've got vivid memories of West Campus apartment. It was

483
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Kyle Williams, Matt Flynn, Peter Dakowski on the top floor, Me,

484
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Luke Sanders, Craig Stouts in the middle floor.

485
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Speaker 3: And I would go up to their apartment.

486
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Speaker 4: And we would watch reruns of Dawson's Creek on TBS.

487
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Speaker 2: Nine to ten, govery morning. It was our stories.

488
00:23:26,200 --> 00:23:26,960
Speaker 3: It was our stories.

489
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Speaker 4: Yeah, we were getting you know, we were getting back

490
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from workouts, about to go to class.

491
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Speaker 3: Relax. We went to class because we had to, and

492
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little Dawson's Creek. We went to class when we knew

493
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we had to go to class.

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Speaker 4: That is a art when you had a class checker

495
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and you knew how to be checked in the class,

496
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but also the right door to sneak out of set

497
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class and avoid the class checker.

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Speaker 3: Look, I'm not saying that school wasn't important. It was.

499
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Speaker 4: I graduated with honors from LSU, all right, But you

500
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know when you go to class, Matt, and you know

501
00:24:06,799 --> 00:24:08,559
when you don't have to go to class, you know

502
00:24:08,599 --> 00:24:12,400
who to ask the right person for notes, and if

503
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you're really smart, you get your girlfriend who's going to

504
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be your wife, to take the same classes as you do.

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Speaker 2: You know, being a student athlete's a delicate balance.

506
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Speaker 4: You're basically delicate an employee of the university and you

507
00:24:28,279 --> 00:24:29,480
happen to go to school as well.

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Speaker 3: Back then, like I felt like, do I work for LSU?

509
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Speaker 10: I think my kids are actually the cars. I'm not

510
00:24:34,920 --> 00:24:37,559
going to like really give the boy to our three

511
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on that way.

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Speaker 4: Hey, Flynn, children, if you want the full rundown on

513
00:24:42,839 --> 00:24:45,319
your father, I got you.

514
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Speaker 3: You let me know. Huck school, I see you. No,

515
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that's what I'm saying. No it is.

516
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Speaker 4: I'm saying that school is important, but there is a

517
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way so you get to college. There is a way

518
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when you're in college to make sure you're doing all

519
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the right things.

520
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Speaker 3: But also you don't have to.

521
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Speaker 2: Be in there. He's got to take care of your business.

522
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He got to take care of that, Bene.

523
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Speaker 4: Let me tell you when when me and Steltz went

524
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into Ted White's office, who was you know, our academic

525
00:25:12,680 --> 00:25:15,119
counselor the man he was, the man he was in

526
00:25:15,559 --> 00:25:17,960
was he in like Major League or Angels in the Outfield.

527
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Speaker 3: He was an extra in one of those movies.

528
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Speaker 4: Anyways, we go into Ted's office and he's like, hey, guys,

529
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you're a freshman. You got to go to study hall

530
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and our schedule was brutal. So go into study hall

531
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from seven to nine at night after you finish practice

532
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and all that.

533
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Speaker 3: Like it was miserable.

534
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Speaker 4: It is what it is that it was terrible just

535
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because you didn't get home till like nine thirty.

536
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Speaker 2: Right.

537
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Speaker 4: He's like, but but if you two goofballs make over

538
00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:45,240
a three to two five your first semester, I'm never

539
00:25:45,279 --> 00:25:48,359
gonna see you again unless you really mess up your

540
00:25:48,400 --> 00:25:50,640
first semester on campus. If you make over a three

541
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to two five, you're done. That's all I had to hear.

542
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Speaker 10: Yeah, they they stopped class checking you at least when

543
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we were I think the older we got, the more

544
00:25:59,000 --> 00:26:00,759
we didn't have to go to study hall. Yeah, you

545
00:26:00,799 --> 00:26:02,599
have to go to study hall if you take care

546
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of business. You got to move off campus after a year.

547
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that was a big deal. I was tied into it. Yeah.

548
00:26:09,000 --> 00:26:11,519
Speaker 2: So yeah, just you gotta start out strong early.

549
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Speaker 3: Exactly.

550
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Speaker 4: You fool them early and then you continue to trick

551
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them along the way, and then you graduate with honors

552
00:26:22,200 --> 00:26:23,720
our general Studies degree.

553
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Speaker 10: That was one of the biggest, like like when you

554
00:26:26,519 --> 00:26:28,119
look at regrets, that was one of the biggest ones

555
00:26:28,160 --> 00:26:29,599
I have because I did. I went into college not

556
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really know what I wanted to study. I know I

557
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wanted to play football. If I would have like enjoyed

558
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and like been into the classes, it would have been

559
00:26:36,079 --> 00:26:38,559
a lot different stories. But I was, you know, I

560
00:26:38,720 --> 00:26:42,200
was taking classes with like twenty five other football people,

561
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football players.

562
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Speaker 4: Yeah, then that was it, you get it. And then

563
00:26:46,680 --> 00:26:48,759
we got we got a guy jar Mitchell set to

564
00:26:48,839 --> 00:26:51,839
join us. Yeah, there's a lot of classes I have

565
00:26:52,039 --> 00:26:54,880
with uh no, only football, but like Big Baby Davis

566
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Tyris Thomas, Oh.

567
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Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, football, basketball, we were all intermingled.

568
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Speaker 4: Baseball had did their own thing, like baseball didn't hang

569
00:27:01,279 --> 00:27:05,680
out with us. Our football and basketball hung out Baseball

570
00:27:05,680 --> 00:27:06,519
guys like they didn't.

571
00:27:06,599 --> 00:27:08,160
Speaker 3: They did their own thing, like they didn't want to

572
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,640
hang out with us. Yeah, it's fine.

573
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Speaker 4: It is funny though, Like so one of like I

574
00:27:13,559 --> 00:27:16,440
had a math minor in college, like Matt just is

575
00:27:16,519 --> 00:27:18,839
kind of my thing. Like English certainly not my thing,

576
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,920
but math was. I didn't see many athletes in that class.

577
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In those math classes.

578
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Speaker 6: I was taking.

579
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Speaker 10: Not a lot of athletes that winter session class I took,

580
00:27:27,720 --> 00:27:30,480
I talked about last week, you gotta shove a whole

581
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semester into two weeks.

582
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Speaker 2: I was the only athlete in that one.

583
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Speaker 4: I bet you were, all right, we are going to

584
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set very cool cool. It is very I mean, look,

585
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,559
we didn't say I didn't say anything bad.

586
00:27:44,839 --> 00:27:45,880
Speaker 3: What do we say that was bad?

587
00:27:46,000 --> 00:27:51,119
Speaker 2: Nothing? We spoke truth is all right, some knowledge we.

588
00:27:51,119 --> 00:27:52,920
Speaker 4: Are going to go to break when we come back.

589
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:56,720
Jared Mitchell, lsu Legend SEC Network will join us.

590
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Speaker 3: Right here on TV. Off the bench, all right, go

591
00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:06,680
to pelicanroof dot com. Pelicanroof dot com is the website.

592
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:09,160
Speaker 4: I know Matt's gonna tell you about the financing options

593
00:28:09,200 --> 00:28:11,160
that they have over at Pelican Roof, but I am

594
00:28:11,240 --> 00:28:13,720
going to tell you about the instant quote tool that

595
00:28:13,759 --> 00:28:16,279
they have right there top right corner of the website.

596
00:28:16,279 --> 00:28:18,920
Speaker 3: Go ahead to get a lay of the land and outline.

597
00:28:18,519 --> 00:28:20,160
Speaker 4: Of your roof at your home, at your business and

598
00:28:20,200 --> 00:28:23,920
kind of tell you exactly what it is going to

599
00:28:23,960 --> 00:28:25,799
cost as far as like the quote right, you're gonna

600
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get the quote based off of your roof outline.

601
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Speaker 3: They're gonna come out. They're gonna do great work.

602
00:28:29,960 --> 00:28:32,079
Speaker 4: I told you about my experience in my neighborhood is

603
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clean work as well. And you can go to the

604
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website pelicanroof dot com in Baton Rouge in laugh. Yet

605
00:28:37,480 --> 00:28:39,880
remember they are in both communities right there, strong in

606
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the communities.

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Speaker 3: Pelicanroof dot com.

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Speaker 10: Yeah, a new roof is a big deal, right It's

609
00:28:44,759 --> 00:28:46,680
they got to come out there. It's one of the

610
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,319
more important things in your home. So check them out

611
00:28:50,319 --> 00:28:52,640
with their financing they have. It's a big push for

612
00:28:52,680 --> 00:28:55,079
them right now. They have zero percent interest for up

613
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to twenty one months on their finance and calling today

614
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see how they can help you. Three three seven seven

615
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three four from.

616
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Speaker 1: The locker room to the airwaves. Gets off the bench

617
00:29:22,160 --> 00:29:24,160
with Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn.

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Speaker 4: All right, then, welcome back in OTB one four five

619
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ESPN Baton Rouge. Gonna go now to one of our

620
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former teammates now crushing it on the SEC network. Mister

621
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Jerry Mitchell joins the show. Now, j Mitch, how you doing, sir?

622
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:39,759
Always a pleasure.

623
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Speaker 6: I'm feeling great. How you boys?

624
00:29:42,240 --> 00:29:42,400
Speaker 3: Doing.

625
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Speaker 6: Man, how y'all living?

626
00:29:43,599 --> 00:29:45,599
Speaker 3: We are doing fantastic? Hey how about this?

627
00:29:45,759 --> 00:29:48,680
Speaker 4: A week into doing the show, Flynn showed up seven

628
00:29:48,759 --> 00:29:50,680
days in a row, So shout out to Flynn.

629
00:29:51,079 --> 00:29:53,759
Speaker 3: But J Mitch, he's about to go out of town

630
00:29:53,799 --> 00:29:54,440
for like a week.

631
00:29:58,000 --> 00:30:00,119
Speaker 6: Hey, hey, we all wish you could be.

632
00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:04,960
Speaker 2: Seven days is a lot. I need a break, Bud,

633
00:30:07,559 --> 00:30:07,920
and listen.

634
00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:10,039
Speaker 11: I'm used to us being like in this kind of setting,

635
00:30:10,039 --> 00:30:11,519
but like we all used to have to shut up

636
00:30:11,559 --> 00:30:12,920
and like just let Matt talk, like.

637
00:30:12,839 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 3: So like yes exactly, and we're in the huddle.

638
00:30:16,960 --> 00:30:19,359
Speaker 4: He's like, shut up, you peasants, let me talk, and

639
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:22,799
he tries to do the same thing here. J Mitch Man,

640
00:30:22,880 --> 00:30:24,720
I am so happy for you. You're crushing it on

641
00:30:24,759 --> 00:30:28,359
the SEC network. Love seeing our LSU brethren on there,

642
00:30:28,400 --> 00:30:30,000
even though you have to put up with part time

643
00:30:30,000 --> 00:30:30,640
Peter Burns.

644
00:30:30,640 --> 00:30:33,000
Speaker 3: We apologize for that portion of.

645
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:35,519
Speaker 4: It, but man, love seeing you on there. And how Hey,

646
00:30:35,519 --> 00:30:37,720
how are you going to take in Omaha like that?

647
00:30:37,839 --> 00:30:39,799
Speaker 3: Do you know? Are you gonna be in studio for that?

648
00:30:40,640 --> 00:30:40,799
Speaker 6: No?

649
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Speaker 11: So I'm gonna be home for that. I depends. I'm

650
00:30:44,079 --> 00:30:46,519
thinking about going up there. On the back app of

651
00:30:46,519 --> 00:30:49,160
twenty three. We went up there for like the first

652
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,279
five days, which happened to be LSU's like first two games, Yeah,

653
00:30:52,319 --> 00:30:54,680
which was great. Like now and now I'm like, all right,

654
00:30:54,759 --> 00:30:57,039
well I'm not going up there the first half of

655
00:30:57,039 --> 00:30:59,119
this thing, so like past the weekend, I think I'm

656
00:30:59,119 --> 00:31:00,759
thinking about going up there for like the back half

657
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:02,720
or whatever else we can kind of get through at

658
00:31:02,720 --> 00:31:03,079
that point.

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00:31:03,799 --> 00:31:06,039
Speaker 3: Yeah, Hey, it's gonna be a tough opening match up.

660
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Speaker 4: Now It's like it's funny because it's like the toughest

661
00:31:08,400 --> 00:31:12,039
matchup possible for both teams, for Arkansas for LSU when

662
00:31:12,039 --> 00:31:13,960
you look at the field. But it is a team

663
00:31:14,079 --> 00:31:16,240
Jay Minch that you had a series with earlier. You

664
00:31:16,279 --> 00:31:19,039
do take two of three there, Like, does that give

665
00:31:19,119 --> 00:31:23,200
you any kind of you know, mental edge over Arkansas,

666
00:31:23,359 --> 00:31:25,759
Like knowing that you did take the series from them,

667
00:31:25,799 --> 00:31:28,039
even though it wasn't Baton rouge, Like, is that something

668
00:31:28,079 --> 00:31:29,920
you can take or is it almost like a complete

669
00:31:29,960 --> 00:31:31,480
reset because these teams are different.

670
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Speaker 11: Now, yeah, I think you take it and the reasons

671
00:31:34,680 --> 00:31:37,079
why you take it too. Listen, they played them, I

672
00:31:37,079 --> 00:31:39,079
want to up to say in early May, right, like

673
00:31:39,119 --> 00:31:40,680
it wasn't that long ago, it was. It's in the

674
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back half of the SEC schedule, and I think at

675
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the time Arkansas was rolling, they were playing really well.

676
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:47,920
That had just swept Texas I believe a week or

677
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:50,960
a week or two weeks before that. Yeah, and you

678
00:31:51,079 --> 00:31:53,839
got their best shot, like they they played well against you,

679
00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:55,480
and you still beat them, and you had a chance

680
00:31:55,480 --> 00:31:57,519
to sweep going in a Sunday and into that game

681
00:31:57,559 --> 00:31:59,359
as well. So I do think that's something that you

682
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could kind of take the mental edge over them. Obviously,

683
00:32:01,400 --> 00:32:02,920
you're not playing in bat nerves at times. That's a

684
00:32:02,920 --> 00:32:05,960
little bit different for both teams. But with that being said,

685
00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,119
like you're gonna get I would imagine, like I can't

686
00:32:08,119 --> 00:32:09,960
see it happen in any other way, but I would

687
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:13,400
imagine you're probably gonna get Zach group game one. Although

688
00:32:13,599 --> 00:32:17,039
Arkansas did throw gauge wood in that last game that

689
00:32:17,079 --> 00:32:18,759
they played, and they only threw them for like forty

690
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:22,240
eight pitches, so I don't I'm wondering why at that

691
00:32:22,319 --> 00:32:24,440
point they had gotten a big league on a big lead.

692
00:32:24,519 --> 00:32:26,680
I'm wondering why they did that at that point. But

693
00:32:26,880 --> 00:32:28,880
I would imagine it's gonna be Zach rupe. But this

694
00:32:28,920 --> 00:32:32,559
is a game where like man I think at this

695
00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:33,920
time of the year, Like I truly think at this

696
00:32:33,960 --> 00:32:37,920
time of the year, it is essential for your offensive

697
00:32:37,920 --> 00:32:40,440
players to perform. That your stars kind of got to

698
00:32:40,440 --> 00:32:42,720
show up on that side of the ball because think

699
00:32:42,759 --> 00:32:45,440
about like the pressure points if you will, and playing

700
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:48,480
in a super regional and or playing in Omaha where

701
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:51,920
it's I would much rather that pressure if you will

702
00:32:52,279 --> 00:32:55,359
be spread out among nine bats in the lineup than

703
00:32:55,400 --> 00:32:57,680
it for it to be all on my pitcher having

704
00:32:57,680 --> 00:32:59,799
to keep teams at bay had one to two to

705
00:32:59,799 --> 00:33:02,519
three runs. So, like, I think it's important that the

706
00:33:02,559 --> 00:33:04,400
bats show up at this time of the year.

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Speaker 6: That way, you.

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00:33:05,279 --> 00:33:08,240
Speaker 11: Give some room for mistake and era, and you allow

709
00:33:08,279 --> 00:33:10,440
the pitcher to kind of settle in that much easier.

710
00:33:10,759 --> 00:33:14,000
Speaker 10: Yeah, it kind of seems like the bats are heating

711
00:33:14,079 --> 00:33:16,480
up and are pretty hot right now, so I think

712
00:33:16,519 --> 00:33:19,400
as LSU fans, we're feeling pretty good about it. Javitch,

713
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I want to talk ask you a question that we

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actually got asked in our audience chat earlier in the day. Well,

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first of all, congrats on the success that you're killing it.

716
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Love watching you out there, But we got to ask earlier,

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like when teams get to get to Omaha in the

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College World Series start. Do you think that they should

719
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be reseeded?

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Speaker 11: So for me, not Omaha. Here's where I have a

721
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problem at when it comes to that entire term. And

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I do think like as easy as things to get

723
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fixed in football when the when the noise gets loud,

724
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I think if the same noise was around college baseball,

725
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things will get fixed.

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Speaker 6: So you play out a fifty six.

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Speaker 11: Game schedule and then they go ahead and see regional

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host sites, but they give them to what is called

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the top sixteen national seeds. So when you're in that situation,

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why on earth are you conceding home field advantage when

731
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teams have to come to you. So if I'm the

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number one team in a regional and there's four, right,

733
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the higher sheet seeds should always be the higher be

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the home team.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 6: So when you get to what was.

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Speaker 11: LSU's a game seven win all game seven in your

738
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own regional and you're playing a number four seed, number

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three seed, number two, it doesn't matter. Why is LSU

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the away team? We played all season for this? This

741
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is why you gave me the home site because I'm

742
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the better team, so I should be getting home field

743
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advantage at its truest form in that situation, and then

744
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same thing goes for the super Regional. I got this

745
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spot based off of how we performed throughout the year,

746
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So why on earth are we switching home and away?

747
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That doesn't make any sense to me, right, like that

748
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just that's crazy to me, And I think that's the

749
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kind of things I think. I'm just like that, doesn't

750
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I get what you're trying to do. But then we

751
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just go ahead, Why don't we just go play at

752
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a neutral site? Then if that's what we're gonna do.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm with you there, because like the rule and

754
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the tiebreak, it's like, okay, which team hasn't been the

755
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home team? Like, whichever team hasn't been that, like you're

756
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going to get it in the regional play, and look,

757
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we know, like that could have cost you in regional play.

758
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Like you're sitting there game number seven and you're the

759
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away team, and sure you get your own dugout in

760
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locker room, but still like it matters who has the

761
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final three outs there. It didn't get kind of loud though,

762
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So maybe Jay Mitchell, that is something that maybe might

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get changed.

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Speaker 6: I hope. So I really think they need to change that.

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Speaker 11: I just think, like I said, game seven, so I

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get it man, like you get your own crowd.

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Speaker 6: So like that part of it doesn't really go away.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, but think about football, if we're going into an overtime,

769
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everybody wants the chance to pick to play defense first,

770
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to know what.

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Speaker 6: You got to do, right, No one's choosing.

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Speaker 11: No one's truly choosing in I want to do it first,

773
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and I have to know what I have to do

774
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like that just that's the case of no one would

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ever do that.

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Speaker 6: So like that's that's kind of where I'm at with

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l No.

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Speaker 4: It's a good analogy. I like that when they're hey,

779
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I do want to ask you though, because you've done

780
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mean you've done it all football and baseball, so you've

781
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gone through different grinds of you know, playing in the

782
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SEC championship game and then a BCS national championship game

783
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in the football sided thing.

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Speaker 3: But omaha's a different beast.

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Speaker 4: Like Omaha, if you're there and you go win a

786
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national championship, you're there for a long time. Like what

787
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is the most difficult part about that grind? Like when

788
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you go you don't really know how long you're going

789
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to be there and then if you do win that

790
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national championship again like mentally, I know physically as well,

791
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Like you have to be exhausted by the end of

792
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that run.

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Speaker 3: What's that like going through the totality of Omaha.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, there's a couple of things.

795
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Speaker 11: The first thing you point at too, is it's a

796
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huge point, right, like you if you win from start

797
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to finish, you're pretty much there for like two a

798
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little bit over two weeks, I believe, which a lot

799
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of people don't realize. Like that's a long time to

800
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be like completely away from the house, to be on

801
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the road and like not be in your quote unquote routine, right,

802
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Like it's a go while to be that situation. There's

803
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also like when you get there, even compared to SEC stadiums,

804
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just the first time you're probably going to a lot

805
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of those guys are playing with like a second deck.

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Speaker 2: Now.

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Speaker 11: I know it was obviously LSU went or not even

808
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this year because they played in Frisco, but like in

809
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the past they played in the Shriner's Classic in Houston,

810
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:08,760
where you're finally playing with the second deck of stadium.

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Like that's a different view when you're on the field

812
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as well, like it finding the ball, continuing to keep

813
00:37:13,960 --> 00:37:16,440
finding the ball in the outfield is that's something completely different.

814
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So like that's something about it too. But I also

815
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think the suspense and the drama of postseason baseball over

816
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the course of two weeks, like that, once again, it

817
00:37:27,159 --> 00:37:30,519
becomes a draining thing. Now it's it's great, it's a

818
00:37:30,639 --> 00:37:33,519
great field, but like when the game's over, it becomes

819
00:37:33,519 --> 00:37:37,559
a you come so far down it because it's I

820
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mean the same thing like in football, man, like you

821
00:37:39,440 --> 00:37:42,360
playing one game week, it's tough, but imagine like having

822
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not just physically emotionally, having to play like three games

823
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in one week.

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Speaker 6: That's tough.

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Speaker 11: Yeah, right, And I think all those things combined and

826
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being able to stay disciplined focusing like on that like

827
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short and narrow for that it's tough to do and

828
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it makes it hard. And I think the best teams

829
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kind of obviously end up being in being in the

830
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end of it, because it's there's a lot of elements

831
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in terms of staying focused that you have to do.

832
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Speaker 4: One of the things that for LSU that they've struggled against.

833
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If we get into the matchup against Arkansas, you mentioned

834
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like Newton might be the starting pitcher there. Lefties have

835
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given LSU some trouble like in the past, and so like,

836
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I wonder how much of that goes into all these different,

837
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you know, decisions, and like Anthony Iinsen had a big

838
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day against Arkansas in the regular season, Like all the

839
00:38:31,840 --> 00:38:35,079
little minute changes in the lineup, that's going to be

840
00:38:35,079 --> 00:38:37,360
fascinating to kind of play out there, because like this

841
00:38:37,599 --> 00:38:40,119
is your one opportunity, and so like, what do you

842
00:38:40,159 --> 00:38:42,039
think LSU is going to do as far as what

843
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they do on the mound.

844
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Speaker 11: So I would imagine it's probably gonna be lefty lefty

845
00:38:46,400 --> 00:38:48,880
matchup in that game one. I think Zach Rut's gonna

846
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throw for them, and I'm pretty sure Kid's gonna throw

847
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for LSU at that point.

848
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Speaker 6: I think it's imperative.

849
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Speaker 11: If you remember, go back to the Super Regional Game one,

850
00:38:56,719 --> 00:39:00,840
they faced a lefty uh from why am I forgetting

851
00:39:00,840 --> 00:39:02,599
the name? They faced the lefty from the team they

852
00:39:02,679 --> 00:39:07,000
just played West Virginia, and his plan in that game

853
00:39:07,199 --> 00:39:09,519
was he really wanted to bust all of the hitters in,

854
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particularly the right handed hitters, and very early on in

855
00:39:13,880 --> 00:39:15,400
the game you could see you kind of made the

856
00:39:15,400 --> 00:39:17,719
adjustment and understood. Okay, if this is what you're gonna do,

857
00:39:18,119 --> 00:39:20,000
We're just gonna really get on top of the plate.

858
00:39:20,360 --> 00:39:22,119
We're not gonna give you room for era off the

859
00:39:22,119 --> 00:39:24,760
plate inside, and if you miss over the plate, we

860
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hammer you right. And that's kind of where they went,

861
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and they were able to execute that game plan.

862
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Speaker 3: Like to a t.

863
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Speaker 6: There was five I think there was eight walks.

864
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Speaker 11: I think there was five hit batters, and really three

865
00:39:35,119 --> 00:39:39,039
swings turned into eleven runs. Right, So, like, I think

866
00:39:39,079 --> 00:39:42,079
it's gonna be imperative for them if they face Zach

867
00:39:42,159 --> 00:39:46,440
Routine that game, where I would expect him to at

868
00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:50,280
some level neutralized the left handed bats in that lineup.

869
00:39:50,679 --> 00:39:53,199
But it's gonna take guys like Barre Jones and Stephen

870
00:39:53,400 --> 00:39:55,639
Stephen Milin from the right side. Obviously it's a switch

871
00:39:55,679 --> 00:39:58,000
hitter from the right side gonna take. Don't guys like

872
00:39:58,079 --> 00:40:02,800
Daniel Dickinson's gonna take guys like Ethan, those guys, Luis Hernandez, those.

873
00:40:02,599 --> 00:40:03,559
Speaker 6: Guys in a lineup.

874
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Speaker 11: I am really interested to see how they're able to

875
00:40:06,840 --> 00:40:08,960
fare against them, because I do think if you're able

876
00:40:08,960 --> 00:40:11,920
to put runners on and you're able to push some across,

877
00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:14,159
it makes it tough and guys like so like, we

878
00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,239
got two weekends back to back weekends. If you think

879
00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,440
about it, the regionals in the super regions where the

880
00:40:19,320 --> 00:40:21,440
one and two ace that we have the one A,

881
00:40:21,639 --> 00:40:24,320
one B. However you want to look at it, those

882
00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,960
guys both went seven plus in the regions and it

883
00:40:27,039 --> 00:40:29,239
was shut down baseball. And then when you got to

884
00:40:29,280 --> 00:40:31,599
the Super regional. I'm not saying that they threw bad

885
00:40:31,599 --> 00:40:35,280
at all, because it felt like to me the mark

886
00:40:35,320 --> 00:40:38,760
of what an old school starting pitcher was where it

887
00:40:38,800 --> 00:40:42,320
doesn't matter what the other team is scoring, you're always

888
00:40:42,400 --> 00:40:44,440
keeping us in the game. So if that calls for

889
00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,280
we scored sixteen, I believe in game one, if that

890
00:40:47,320 --> 00:40:50,360
calls for you going seven and giving up eight seven runs,

891
00:40:50,519 --> 00:40:52,320
so be it, because when you leave, we still have

892
00:40:52,360 --> 00:40:54,880
a big lead or we're still within striking range of

893
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winning the ball game.

894
00:40:55,679 --> 00:40:57,719
Speaker 6: That used to be what the mark of a really

895
00:40:57,760 --> 00:40:58,679
good starting pitcher was.

896
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Speaker 11: Every time they got out out there, no matter what

897
00:41:01,079 --> 00:41:03,000
the score was, they gave you a chance to win

898
00:41:03,039 --> 00:41:03,360
the game.

899
00:41:03,519 --> 00:41:04,840
Speaker 6: And you saw both sides of that.

900
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Speaker 11: So I do think like those two guys are and

901
00:41:08,039 --> 00:41:10,559
then obviously having Caden Game one, he's going to give

902
00:41:10,559 --> 00:41:13,440
you a chance to win. Now, it's can you do

903
00:41:13,559 --> 00:41:16,320
the little things to push those runs across across that

904
00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:17,320
you need to win the ball game.

905
00:41:17,800 --> 00:41:21,159
Speaker 10: Jared, I'm always interested in diving, like into the mindset

906
00:41:21,199 --> 00:41:23,599
of an athlete and like yourself being like a former

907
00:41:23,920 --> 00:41:29,920
really accomplished dual dual sport athlete. In football, when you

908
00:41:29,960 --> 00:41:31,960
beat somebody, it's always they always say it's hard to

909
00:41:31,960 --> 00:41:34,000
beat somebody twice, like a good team twice. So you

910
00:41:34,039 --> 00:41:36,679
beat beat somebody in the regular season, Okay, now all

911
00:41:36,679 --> 00:41:37,800
of a sudden, I got to go play him in

912
00:41:38,079 --> 00:41:40,840
a conference championship game or bowl game or whatever it is.

913
00:41:41,199 --> 00:41:43,559
It's the way the adages. Man, it's always hard to

914
00:41:43,559 --> 00:41:45,920
beat someone twice. Beat someone ty Well els you swept

915
00:41:46,039 --> 00:41:48,199
Arkansas two to three, two out of three. That's what

916
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:51,440
they won the series. So is it the same kind

917
00:41:51,480 --> 00:41:54,079
of mindset going into when you have to play somebody

918
00:41:54,119 --> 00:41:57,679
again that you've already beaten in the same season, knowing

919
00:41:57,719 --> 00:41:59,440
that they're a really good team. Is it kind of

920
00:41:59,480 --> 00:42:02,320
the same like mental block, mental barrier hurdle that you

921
00:42:02,360 --> 00:42:04,199
have to overcome that you that you did.

922
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:06,000
Speaker 2: And in the football world.

923
00:42:07,559 --> 00:42:10,000
Speaker 11: I think it can and it can't be, and there's

924
00:42:10,039 --> 00:42:11,920
two different ways of it being that way. I think

925
00:42:12,000 --> 00:42:14,360
if it is, it's a to like go back to

926
00:42:14,440 --> 00:42:17,800
Friday night LSU Arkansas, if you're able to get to

927
00:42:17,960 --> 00:42:20,960
Zach root early, get some runner on, push some runs across.

928
00:42:21,159 --> 00:42:23,679
I do think in his mind at that point it's

929
00:42:24,280 --> 00:42:26,440
maybe I don't have my best stuff or all. It's

930
00:42:26,599 --> 00:42:28,960
they're making it tough for me again. And then when

931
00:42:29,159 --> 00:42:32,920
in that same mindset, it's if you you throw Kde

932
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:35,039
and he throws well, and the next guy you bring

933
00:42:35,039 --> 00:42:37,440
out of somebody that maybe got him last time as well,

934
00:42:37,679 --> 00:42:39,920
I think that same mindset starts to creep.

935
00:42:39,960 --> 00:42:40,079
Speaker 3: Well.

936
00:42:40,079 --> 00:42:42,119
Speaker 11: I do you think it changes in baseball in terms

937
00:42:42,119 --> 00:42:44,920
of let's say Zach Rude goes out there and he shoves,

938
00:42:44,960 --> 00:42:46,960
and then they bring out somebody that maybe LSU didn't

939
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:49,400
hit well before. That's where I think it kind of changes,

940
00:42:49,440 --> 00:42:51,760
because now that dugout would feel like, oh this is

941
00:42:51,760 --> 00:42:53,960
not the same this. We look different this time, right,

942
00:42:54,000 --> 00:42:56,320
Like we're a different team, we got a different performance.

943
00:42:56,559 --> 00:42:58,920
But when things kind of start going the way they

944
00:42:58,920 --> 00:43:01,039
went before, yeah, I do think team started looking at

945
00:43:01,119 --> 00:43:04,159
like all right here we go, you know, right.

946
00:43:04,599 --> 00:43:07,000
Speaker 4: All right there he is our guy, Jared Mitchell, good

947
00:43:07,079 --> 00:43:10,079
enough to join us here, great form teammate of ours.

948
00:43:10,119 --> 00:43:13,960
Also star at LSU Baseball SEC Network star now. J Mitch,

949
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,039
we appreciate the time as always. Man, if you do

950
00:43:16,119 --> 00:43:19,079
make it up to omahall enjoy the experience and just

951
00:43:19,199 --> 00:43:20,679
hey costs let us know the vibe.

952
00:43:21,039 --> 00:43:24,039
Speaker 11: Yeah, yeah, I give you timey on a.

953
00:43:26,079 --> 00:43:28,079
Speaker 2: One hundred and forty three yards two thousand and seven.

954
00:43:28,239 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 3: I know right there.

955
00:43:29,039 --> 00:43:29,519
Speaker 2: J Mitch.

956
00:43:29,960 --> 00:43:33,719
Speaker 4: Absolutely, man, Hey, you're the you're the man. We appreciate it. Hey, hey,

957
00:43:33,760 --> 00:43:35,159
if you just gave you a better ball, you'd at

958
00:43:35,199 --> 00:43:36,039
least two hundred.

959
00:43:35,840 --> 00:43:40,199
Speaker 2: Yeard any question, I a couple of I.

960
00:43:40,280 --> 00:43:43,840
Speaker 4: Just appreciate it, man, that's all right, that's all right,

961
00:43:43,920 --> 00:43:46,400
J Mitch, we appreciate it, brother, all right, boys, take

962
00:43:46,440 --> 00:43:46,800
it easy.

963
00:43:47,039 --> 00:43:47,440
Speaker 3: All right.

964
00:43:47,480 --> 00:43:49,400
Speaker 4: There he is Jared Mitchell, good enough to join us here.

965
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:51,440
Get the guy a better ball. I know A couple

966
00:43:51,480 --> 00:43:52,079
behind him.

967
00:43:53,360 --> 00:43:55,239
Speaker 3: Uh yeah, show.

968
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:57,079
Speaker 12: I mean there was a game you missed the hot route.

969
00:43:58,920 --> 00:44:03,039
I remember that. It was he a freshman, young, Yeah,

970
00:44:03,079 --> 00:44:07,039
he's young. He was young, rich freshman freshman, maybe richer freshman.

971
00:44:07,239 --> 00:44:08,679
It didn't really matter because we gotta go to break

972
00:44:08,719 --> 00:44:09,800
more OTB when we come.

973
00:44:09,719 --> 00:44:11,360
Speaker 1: Back off the bench.

974
00:44:13,239 --> 00:44:14,960
Speaker 3: You know what's better than going to Omaha?

975
00:44:15,079 --> 00:44:16,320
Speaker 2: Matt, I do I know?

976
00:44:16,360 --> 00:44:19,599
Speaker 3: It's better being in omahall with a dosecis.

977
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:22,639
Speaker 2: Lots of do secies.

978
00:44:22,840 --> 00:44:30,760
Speaker 4: Responsibly uh, tailgate in the parking lot about to watch LSU.

979
00:44:30,599 --> 00:44:32,639
Speaker 2: Versus Arkansas and some lawn chairs.

980
00:44:33,079 --> 00:44:36,920
Speaker 4: And we're not sharing those do sequis with the pigs.

981
00:44:37,320 --> 00:44:38,360
Speaker 3: These are our dosecis.

982
00:44:38,440 --> 00:44:40,519
Speaker 2: Arkansas fans probably drinking trash beer.

983
00:44:40,960 --> 00:44:44,119
Speaker 4: Yeah, probably like just you know that one that you

984
00:44:44,119 --> 00:44:46,039
go in there and you buy the flat and it's like, hey,

985
00:44:46,039 --> 00:44:47,000
that will be four bucks.

986
00:44:47,199 --> 00:44:49,440
Speaker 3: You're getting four buck beer. You're not getting an ice

987
00:44:49,440 --> 00:44:50,159
cool dosectis.

988
00:44:50,239 --> 00:44:52,119
Speaker 2: That's what type of beer I'm about to be having.

989
00:44:52,480 --> 00:44:53,000
Speaker 3: I hate you.

990
00:44:53,239 --> 00:44:57,119
Speaker 10: A little vacation beer, a little airport beer, maybe a

991
00:44:57,159 --> 00:45:02,440
beach beer. Vacation a right, so we'll be if you're

992
00:45:02,480 --> 00:45:08,039
playing it on deleting some beers responsibly go for dose.

993
00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:20,679
He'll pick up some dose sekis.

994
00:45:15,159 --> 00:45:18,280
Speaker 1: From players to legends, Hester and FLYNT breakdown L s

995
00:45:18,360 --> 00:45:20,960
U football like only champions can.

996
00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:24,159
Speaker 4: All right, man, welcome I game OTB one four five

997
00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:25,119
ESPN baton rouge.

998
00:45:25,159 --> 00:45:27,079
Speaker 3: You're on this Tuesday morning and I.

999
00:45:27,119 --> 00:45:29,000
Speaker 2: Have the legends legendary time. Man.

1000
00:45:29,159 --> 00:45:35,280
Speaker 3: Sure, I mean less of the legend. Did I say,

1001
00:45:35,320 --> 00:45:37,239
you're saying that's where we got it from?

1002
00:45:37,920 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 4: Mean, look, we've we've had like great guests at the

1003
00:45:39,960 --> 00:45:43,320
thirty Whoops. I'm not even saying we'll get better because

1004
00:45:43,320 --> 00:45:44,039
we probably won't.

1005
00:45:44,079 --> 00:45:46,760
Speaker 2: Actually, we went pretty long before the guests.

1006
00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:48,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's true.

1007
00:45:48,559 --> 00:45:50,400
Speaker 2: That's all nice people. We'll get better.

1008
00:45:51,880 --> 00:45:53,000
Speaker 3: Let me hit the chest shout out.

1009
00:45:53,159 --> 00:45:56,320
Speaker 2: I got Jamie in the chat said I was doing good.

1010
00:45:56,199 --> 00:45:59,320
Speaker 3: For two weeks until you leave us for shot days.

1011
00:46:00,239 --> 00:46:02,719
Nick Underhill, New Orleans Dot Football. When would jump back

1012
00:46:02,719 --> 00:46:03,159
on no TV?

1013
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Speaker 1: Off the bench