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Speaker 2: Thank you, good evening to you all, and thank you
Speaker 2: for having me once more. Of course I appreciate that.
Speaker 1: Always always loving.
Speaker 2: And for those that don't know me, my name is
Speaker 2: Ricart Calvalu. I live in Portugal. In terms of work,
Speaker 2: I've done the resonance ars we are going to talk
Speaker 2: about today and a book called Stardus that is more
Speaker 2: related to consciousness and how we envision science and how
Speaker 2: getting globes, catastrophism and uniforitariumism, minisment versus free will and
Speaker 2: so on. It's it's a different concept than this one.
Speaker 2: It's a completely different book.
Speaker 3: Uh.
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Speaker 1: Of course, thank you. Yeah, yeah, So when it comes
Speaker 1: to this book, what was it that made you think, like,
Speaker 1: what's different about this book that you think other books
Speaker 1: didn't have that made you do this? You know, what
Speaker 1: was the reasoning for you to put this book out?
Speaker 2: Well, what it might bring off different is the fact
Speaker 2: that I'm trying to combine all the disciplines related to
Speaker 2: how we study megalithic sites and add what I've been
Speaker 2: finding in the last two years or so through my
Speaker 2: research into ourchae acoustics as the key to unlock the
Speaker 2: functionalities that all the rest works for. So without using
Speaker 2: the sound or the frequency, you might consider those words correct.
Speaker 2: Without that frequency, it probably sound people will associate with
Speaker 2: something that they can hear. But some of these sounds
Speaker 2: we cannot hear there are infrasound, and they are below
Speaker 2: that threshold that for some people these twenty hertz for
Speaker 2: others sixteen. But below that threshold we cannot hear it
Speaker 2: and is infrasound. Everything above twenty to twenty two thousand
Speaker 2: earths is ultrasounds that we also cannot hear. So all
Speaker 2: of this entering factor in this so always those that
Speaker 2: we can hear that That's why I'm correcting it from
Speaker 2: sound to frequency. So the difference to me is probably
Speaker 2: that the fact that I'm trying to combine geology, mineralogy,
Speaker 2: archaeo astronomy, psychod geometry, archae acoustics all into the and
Speaker 2: analyze as I used to analyze one single site and
Speaker 2: see all those studies, combine them all together and see
Speaker 2: what results we can obtain. Basically, that's I think that's
Speaker 2: the difference.
Speaker 1: That's great.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: I know you're talking about these acoustics. I don't know
Speaker 1: if it's in your book where I think you have
Speaker 1: brought it up and you kind of went into it
Speaker 1: a little bit. Uh stuff with churches. Is that anything
Speaker 1: that you had in your book where you're talking about
Speaker 1: I think that way we're built.
Speaker 2: Churches. If we consider churches, cathedrals, temples, and the chapels,
Speaker 2: some of them, especially those that were built during specific years,
Speaker 2: were placed on top of or after demolishing the ancient sites.
Speaker 2: So because they didn't have the technology to find the nodes,
Speaker 2: and adding to the fact that they need to convince
Speaker 2: people to add to these new spiritual guidance, they are
Speaker 2: using some of the old rituals mixed with the new
Speaker 2: rituals and using the same sites that people were used
Speaker 2: to congregate to influence them. So the benefit for them
Speaker 2: is and this is the big difference. Perhaps this answers
Speaker 2: your question. The massive difference between a megalithic site and
Speaker 2: placing their church or a chapel or a cathedral is
Speaker 2: that while the megalithic site will use its functions to
Speaker 2: benefit both inside and it radiates out that same influence,
Speaker 2: while the church will concentrate all that energy inside the
Speaker 2: building for specific purposes instead of with different purposes. Let's
Speaker 2: put it that way. So that's to me the biggest
Speaker 2: difference between an ancient megalithic site and the more recent
Speaker 2: structure built with the intent to use those same energies,
Speaker 2: but not in benefit of the people, but yes, in
Speaker 2: personal interest.
Speaker 1: Yeah, so maybe it might have been you two that
Speaker 1: had mentioned that. I think with the music, the way
Speaker 1: that the places are built and the way the music
Speaker 1: is played, it almost doesn't sure.
Speaker 2: Sure. So if you look into the Vatican Church, their churches,
Speaker 2: especially some of them, you have composers that are hired
Speaker 2: to create specific music for that church alone. That's why
Speaker 2: you have music composed for specific churts. Then they might
Speaker 2: work on other churches that have similarities, or they'll build
Speaker 2: under the and principles and so that music can pass
Speaker 2: from that church to another. The effect that they are using.
Speaker 2: And the real trick here is when they started using
Speaker 2: the pipe organs. Because with the pipe organ, if you
Speaker 2: notice every single archaeotistic study, they came to the same conclusion.
Speaker 2: The key is a key that has three elements, so
Speaker 2: you have the infrafrequency, and you can have one in
Speaker 2: the middle frequency and one in a higher frequency. But
Speaker 2: there are always three different frequencies. So you can have
Speaker 2: the human resonance around seven something, and you can have
Speaker 2: another that is either four or two or eight or
Speaker 2: even one hundred and ten. It depends on the site.
Speaker 2: It depends on the functionality that you are looking for.
Speaker 2: But there are always three components. One that is natural,
Speaker 2: one that is induced by humans, and the other there
Speaker 2: is a response from the site itself. So in terms
Speaker 2: of producing the music when they use this pipe organs,
Speaker 2: the function of these pipe organs is exactly to produce
Speaker 2: the three frequencies, so they can produce the very lows
Speaker 2: because of the pedals that you have on the For
Speaker 2: those that don't know what an organ pipe organ is,
Speaker 2: you have a keyboard that is used by your feet
Speaker 2: that produced the very deep bass that can go infrasonic.
Speaker 2: There are tubes like this that are as big as
Speaker 2: a tree in terms of girth and height, just to
Speaker 2: produce that very deep rumble that we can't hear but
Speaker 2: we can feel inside the ceremonies. So that's the reason
Speaker 2: of the pipe organ and these music we're composed to
Speaker 2: make the site resonance and create this sensation that led
Speaker 2: people into this fervor of addering into this religion and
Speaker 2: this code because they went there and they felt discommuning
Speaker 2: with the divine, They felt the presence of something higher
Speaker 2: than themselves because they are being masked up in terms
Speaker 2: of consciousness by these frequencies. So it's well known that
Speaker 2: in labs, if you put someone under four herds, for instance,
Speaker 2: you cannot hear it, but it will create a very
Speaker 2: relaxed state of mind. If you put people, most people
Speaker 2: between the band of one hundred and eighteen sorry, one
Speaker 2: hundred and eight and one hundred and twenty two herds.
Speaker 2: Most people between these two herds, most of them are
Speaker 2: one hundred, one hundred and four, one hundred and ten,
Speaker 2: one hundred and fourteen. They will have alter states of
Speaker 2: consciousness by the sound alone. So the muses can change
Speaker 2: by the difference of you using the sound compressed or uncompressed,
Speaker 2: and is when sign sound is starting to be compressed
Speaker 2: that things go to another level beyond consciousness and start
Speaker 2: to be on the functionality, So that can be protection
Speaker 2: can be long distance communication can be vibrational imprinting on
Speaker 2: the site itself. This leads us to other other positions.
Speaker 3: Carlo, I had a quick question. You said three notes.
Speaker 3: Were they using the concept of a circle of thirds,
Speaker 3: because I mean the basis of every chord progression for
Speaker 3: in music is three. Right, you start with the three.
Speaker 3: But when you look at because you mentioned that it
Speaker 3: was it wasn't like octaves. It was actual within the
Speaker 3: the octave itself, like there was actual chords itself. And
Speaker 3: it reminds me of the circle of thirds and music
Speaker 3: theory where you have like this this uh, how do
Speaker 3: you say? It almost forms like a perfect fourth or
Speaker 3: perfect fifth, and it gives you a stabilization of an
Speaker 3: actual chord to where it resonates in certain you know,
Speaker 3: kind of like with Christmas songs there in minor chords
Speaker 3: and you have the happy songs. But it gives you
Speaker 3: this like vibratory type stabilization when you do it in
Speaker 3: the types of progressions. Do you did you any of that?
Speaker 2: Sure? I can tell you that sites like West Kennet,
Speaker 2: Long Barrel and many others that are built in that area,
Speaker 2: they are built. They detected that this is where coincidence
Speaker 2: starts to take planning because they detected that the chambers
Speaker 2: were built in four thirts in terms of shape, and
Speaker 2: when they introduced the sound, the sound reproduced the same
Speaker 2: four thirds as it was moving along the structure. And
Speaker 2: that's how you create different frequencies for each room. So obviously, yes,
Speaker 2: they knew of that, and they implemented into the structures. Yes, yes,
Speaker 2: in the in.
Speaker 4: The churches too, the entire structure would be made in
Speaker 4: a ratio to sacred geometry. So having that single ratio
Speaker 4: all throughout the building, it gives you a note, you know,
Speaker 4: it literally translates over to the Hurtz frequencies. And I
Speaker 4: also wanted to bring up the fact that the different
Speaker 4: states of consciousness are measured in hurts. So the alpha
Speaker 4: wave is between eight and twelve herts, theta is four
Speaker 4: to eight herts, Delta waves are frequencies below four. Gamma
Speaker 4: is between thirty and forty four herts. Beta waves are
Speaker 4: between twelve and thirty five herts. So all these different
Speaker 4: states of consciousness are directly translatable into musical notes. I
Speaker 4: think there probably is a you know, kind of a
Speaker 4: crossover at least between the principles used in these structures
Speaker 4: that are very very low pitched.
Speaker 2: So I usually give the example of this organist that
Speaker 2: plays this this church organs and it goes there to
Speaker 2: tune them and he has the easy ut with some success.
Speaker 2: I think he lives from his YouTube channel right now
Speaker 2: and plays on the churches. And one of his videos
Speaker 2: that I was lucky enough to be probably the first
Speaker 2: one that I saw, caught my interest because he wasn't
Speaker 2: a small chapel and was playing a music to see
Speaker 2: if the the organ was actually ready to be delivered.
Speaker 2: And he shows the music that was made for that
Speaker 2: chapel and he recorded it. He has very good equipment
Speaker 2: and so on, and so we recorded it, and when
Speaker 2: he was listening to it at home, he realized that
Speaker 2: beyond the music that he is played, the chapel was
Speaker 2: playing a music of its own, using the elements of
Speaker 2: the resonance of the building. And so I didn't play this,
Speaker 2: and so there was another tune going that he cannot hear.
Speaker 2: But the system detected and the tune was there and
Speaker 2: could be translated by lowering or going up I can't remember.
Speaker 2: It could be translated to notes and could be played.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, this site's by no matter how innocent they look,
Speaker 2: once they were built with this intent. They are completely functional. Yeah,
Speaker 2: at least in terms of altering states of consciousness.
Speaker 5: Man I ask on Ricardo, you pointed out that there's
Speaker 5: the three sounds, and there you just illustrated them. Well,
Speaker 5: the naturally occurring sound, the human made sound, and the
Speaker 5: resulting sound, and that being that resulting from the organ.
Speaker 5: But I wonder at different sites where they're vocal, what
Speaker 5: was the human input was it always the same or
Speaker 5: what were were the different inputs.
Speaker 2: Where What they found in archa acoustics is they work
Speaker 2: by bull roarers. A bull roarer, for those who don't
Speaker 2: know what it is is if you've seen crocodile Dundee
Speaker 2: two is what he uses on top of a cliff
Speaker 2: with a cord rotating as tone. That's a bull roarer
Speaker 2: that I thought it was Australian.
Speaker 1: It isn't.
Speaker 2: It's actually quite Irish and Scottish and very used in
Speaker 2: the UK, and I actually thought it was only Australian,
Speaker 2: but I found out by researching this that they use
Speaker 2: this in the UK too, So you can use it
Speaker 2: by a bull roarer, you can use drums. They typically
Speaker 2: work at four hundred and forty to four hundred and
Speaker 2: eighty bits per minute. That's what they found works. They
Speaker 2: can use by male voices that are well some sites,
Speaker 2: it's not the voices that are tuned, but the sites
Speaker 2: seem to be tuned to voices that work on the
Speaker 2: one hundred and ten frequency that's more or less the
Speaker 2: male frequency that comes out, especially in inquire format. So
Speaker 2: there's the activation there. Another interesting thing that they found
Speaker 2: out is there is a difference between sites that were
Speaker 2: made by for singing from women and singing from men.
Speaker 2: They are very distinct in their acoustic characteristics in terms
Speaker 2: of resonance. They were specifically made to operate as females.
Speaker 2: So you have hagar Quinn, a site in Malta that
Speaker 2: it's built like eight hundred and thirty three hertz antenna
Speaker 2: the same format, and it's turned into the sea, and
Speaker 2: so there is this theory. I've talked about this in
Speaker 2: the island of Lapenduza, where the sound reaches sixty kilometers,
Speaker 2: but this is not the part that I'm going to
Speaker 2: focus now. What they found out also is that it
Speaker 2: is very much connected to the mist of the sirens,
Speaker 2: because these fat ladies would sit on this temple singing
Speaker 2: against its walls and the sound would be created and
Speaker 2: soundly that s creak that people heard at sea, that
Speaker 2: could be used idea as this disturbing sound, or it
Speaker 2: could be used as something to focus and bring people
Speaker 2: to land. So I thought that that was an interesting
Speaker 2: connection because they also have these statues of these very
Speaker 2: fat ladies with their mouths as they were speaking or singing,
Speaker 2: and they have fintails. So they that's how they connected
Speaker 2: that to the sirens, and when they tried to reproduce
Speaker 2: the effects, that's the effects that they get from this site.
Speaker 2: And it's the site is not operational because it no
Speaker 2: longer has a ceiling, but they still could see the
Speaker 2: effects in terms of modeling, if you wish, I think
Speaker 2: for the people to understand better how this system works,
Speaker 2: I would like just to give us a small idea
Speaker 2: of the grids themselves, because at the base of all
Speaker 2: of this you have this telluric energy grid. And so
Speaker 2: the most important, the most important is the Shuman way
Speaker 2: that its global as most of them, it's omnidirectional. It
Speaker 2: resonates exactly with the electromagnetic field, which is about seven
Speaker 2: point eight or something like that.
Speaker 5: So the human residence is just one form of tellur
Speaker 5: telluric energy.
Speaker 2: You can describe it as such. So the source of
Speaker 2: it is by the year's rotation and the core metals
Speaker 2: as we are felled. So they say that it's also
Speaker 2: driven by more or less fifteen hundred lightning in the
Speaker 2: atmosphere that also charged it and is somehow aligned with
Speaker 2: as as Hatless said, with the alpha brain waves of
Speaker 2: seven point five to twelve point five herds. This can
Speaker 2: be distorted by geological features faults, waterways, and he has
Speaker 2: this name because it was discovered by a gentleman called
Speaker 2: Chumen in nineteen fifty two. Then you have the Hartman
Speaker 2: grid that also global, but it works in rectangular cells
Speaker 2: that are more or less two meters wide, and they
Speaker 2: are north south, so there are two meters by two
Speaker 2: and a half meters, so two meters north south and
Speaker 2: two and a half meters east west. The source is
Speaker 2: also the Earth's magnetic field, but it's influenced by solar activity,
Speaker 2: and this by its own generates a low gravity current
Speaker 2: of about one to ten hertz. It was as curiosity.
Speaker 2: It was identified by Ernes's hartment in nineteen fifty Then
Speaker 2: you have the Curry grid that is also very important.
Speaker 2: Here it is also global, but it's diagonal, so it
Speaker 2: has cells of about three to four meters, and it
Speaker 2: is rather larger than the heartment that we just saw,
Speaker 2: so it's separated by four and four meters, is diagonal,
Speaker 2: and it has an offset of precisely forty five degrees
Speaker 2: from the Hartman greed. This one is generated by lunar
Speaker 2: gravitinal influence and he picks at full moon and possibly
Speaker 2: cosmic influences to some defend death. This one was discovered
Speaker 2: by Cigarette Whitman in nineteen fifty. Then we have those
Speaker 2: that most people know, that is the vile vortouses. If
Speaker 2: people are watching, I just the people behind it generously
Speaker 2: sent me this of the becker Hagens grid with the
Speaker 2: vile hoses that I still haven't had the time to
Speaker 2: put it together. And so these vile vortouses are twelve regions.
Speaker 2: Each one has between one thousand and two thousand kilometers
Speaker 2: in diameter, as the Bermuda triangle Cori instance has one
Speaker 2: point five. They are orientated at around twenty five to
Speaker 2: twenty seven degrees north and twenty five to twenty seven
Speaker 2: degrees cells and the other ones are the Northpool and
Speaker 2: the soultfool. This was identified by Ivan T. Sanderson in
Speaker 2: seventy two. It seems a lot, but I have only
Speaker 2: two more to go. Then you have the one that
Speaker 2: I've shown you, that is the Beckerhagens grid, that is
Speaker 2: polyhedral cells of one hundred to one thousand kilometers. And
Speaker 2: they combined, they combined this globe of is isochededron I'm
Speaker 2: not sure, and the doto keyhedron together and that's what
Speaker 2: they saw, the interconnection of the points with the two
Speaker 2: geographic lines. And last and last, but not least, and
Speaker 2: this one is particularly tunique because I talked to you
Speaker 2: about this one. These are the black lines. And the
Speaker 2: black lines are zero point one two one point six
Speaker 2: kilometers wide, so completely different from the other ones. They
Speaker 2: have no consistent globe of vettern and they can be
Speaker 2: orientated anyhow they they please, so they completely varied with
Speaker 2: positioned heights. They are not stable. They are not permanent
Speaker 2: as the other ones that only increase or decrease in energy,
Speaker 2: disappear and disappear. So and the ancients what we know
Speaker 2: is that they avoid them because where we find them,
Speaker 2: we don't find anything built upon them. So I'm sorry
Speaker 2: for it for the length where I thought it's important
Speaker 2: that people undersern that the base of all this matter
Speaker 2: latic structure is these are the foundations. So they only
Speaker 2: need to find one of these nodes where the lines
Speaker 2: intersect that has either underground water movement fault lines. We
Speaker 2: only find all these ingredients because it's the fault line
Speaker 2: and that underground water movement that is going to amplify
Speaker 2: the humann resonance. Those seven point eforts are amplified by
Speaker 2: these structures to inside this uh this buildings.
Speaker 5: So it's intersections plus geological formation that really gets the
Speaker 5: power exactly.
Speaker 2: Because I've been talking to the to the gentlemen that
Speaker 2: sent me the map, and one of the arguments that
Speaker 2: you used with me is that these lines are these vortices,
Speaker 2: they can be anywhere. So the power is available. The
Speaker 2: power is available absolutely anywhere. But it so the only
Speaker 2: solution is if it is available anywhere, it has to
Speaker 2: be these folk lines and these underground water movements that
Speaker 2: make them apart because they are built on top of
Speaker 2: that everywhere without without In your opinion.
Speaker 4: What kind of portals does this open for the mind
Speaker 4: and for these different sites. Is there some sort of
Speaker 4: a change that comes that is, you know, measurable that
Speaker 4: that we can experiment with.
Speaker 2: So I'll give you the example of west Kenneth Long
Speaker 2: Barrel that I hope is going to be my first
Speaker 2: project on the field. So what the Steve Marshall did
Speaker 2: there that is one of the major players in the archaetistics.
Speaker 2: What he did there. He went there the first year
Speaker 2: and I didn't say this before, so I take the
Speaker 2: opportunity to say now, I was saying that they tried
Speaker 2: to put the sound inside and it doesn't work. They
Speaker 2: found out that the sound has to be done from
Speaker 2: the outside of these structures and not the inside of
Speaker 2: the structures. So that's what happened to Stephen Marshall. He
Speaker 2: tried different instruments, voice, chanting drums, he tried everything inside
Speaker 2: the main chamber of west Kenneth Long Barrel, that is
Speaker 2: one of those that has the four thirds that we
Speaker 2: were talking about, and nothing happened. And so he returned
Speaker 2: the next year and he decided to play the instruments
Speaker 2: one by one from the courtyard. So the one that
Speaker 2: produced the effects that you are asking about is done
Speaker 2: with the drum playing at four hundred and forty bits
Speaker 2: per minute.
Speaker 5: At the entrance.
Speaker 2: And the boy that was on the first chamber to
Speaker 2: the left started to saw it was in that's darkness.
Speaker 2: There's no light inside. So the boy describes it that
Speaker 2: he started to see the stones to have this strange
Speaker 2: black glow that he couldn't describe how it was a glow,
Speaker 2: but it was distinguishable as a glow as some form
Speaker 2: of light, a dark light. After that, the whole thing
Speaker 2: started to shake, while there is no report of it
Speaker 2: shaking from the other people, but he's only one inside,
Speaker 2: so that might matter. And after that he saw something
Speaker 2: round on the east wall that we know has nothing
Speaker 2: to theare so it's just the structure earth and the field.
Speaker 2: There's nothing there. So he saw this circular opening open
Speaker 2: up you could see the other side of the portal,
Speaker 2: and he got scared and he closed his eyes. We're
Speaker 2: talking about the children with fourteen years old. It was
Speaker 2: one of the subjects of the experiment, and so I.
Speaker 4: Just wanted to pop in real quick. So what you're
Speaker 4: describing with playing the music inside versus outside is the
Speaker 4: Helmholtz resonance exactly. So the Helmholtz resonance is something that
Speaker 4: you get with bottles right when you're getting in the
Speaker 4: tone from the bottles. When the frequency hits the right
Speaker 4: pitch inside of these bottles, you get a major resonation
Speaker 4: resonating effect. But it has to be done at the
Speaker 4: proper ratio to that subject. So if you're doing it
Speaker 4: from outside, then the entire inside is geared towards that
Speaker 4: Helmholtz for see.
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, they do, in fact put show the debt
Speaker 2: model and it fits perfectly on the structure of this building.
Speaker 2: So they are very much done to have that effect
Speaker 2: into them. So I was saying, the kitch closes his
Speaker 2: eyes because he's frightened, and he describes that for two
Speaker 2: times he felt the presence coming from the portal circled
Speaker 2: around him and going out again. So the experiment took
Speaker 2: about fourteen to sixteen minutes more or less. And the
Speaker 2: guy describes this to the scientist, and what do you
Speaker 2: expect that, Stephen Marshall, listen to this. Let's replicate this immediately.
Speaker 2: We are all here, so let's replicate the experience. Let's
Speaker 2: see what's going on now. He decided to finish with
Speaker 2: himself inside the chamber, but we do had phones and
Speaker 2: by binary bits, so it didn't work. Obviously what worked
Speaker 2: is the site rejected him. So he describes as himself
Speaker 2: being projected four meters into the air and slammed into
Speaker 2: the ground three times. That's what happened. And the ceiling
Speaker 2: is two meters high. And this is a serious guy,
Speaker 2: so he wouldn't say it if he didn't so, and
Speaker 2: he knows measures because this is the guy. They called this,
Speaker 2: Steve Marshall. They called the site. And the guy says,
Speaker 2: by aye, this is two by four, seven by eight,
Speaker 2: that's three hundred feet long. And the guy is precise.
Speaker 2: It's incredible. It's a machine on that regard. So when
Speaker 2: he says he was moved four meters into the air,
Speaker 2: he really is saying that he was moved four meters
Speaker 2: into the air.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: But there's no more, there's nothing, there's no inquiry, there
Speaker 2: is no speculation, nothing. The investigation, the research was closed.
Speaker 2: It was written on the paper and it has stayed
Speaker 2: like that for seven years or eight years so far,
Speaker 2: and no one has done nothing. And I want to
Speaker 2: go there. I want to go with all kinds of cameras,
Speaker 2: night vision, infrared, everything inside. I want to see. I
Speaker 2: want temperature detectors, I want to see if there are
Speaker 2: differences in the merely voltage of the stones. I want
Speaker 2: to an ECG on the guy that is in the
Speaker 2: middle of the chamber and sorry, and I want to
Speaker 2: know that either is it real and physical and we
Speaker 2: can send a drone or something into the other side,
Speaker 2: or even if it is happening just in the heads
Speaker 2: of the person, can he just interact with something else,
Speaker 2: just the same as an OBA experience And it's just
Speaker 2: as valid because it's the site that's doing that metaphysical
Speaker 2: portal instead of being a physical part. That's why I'm
Speaker 2: trying to see with my experiment.
Speaker 4: Well, I think it would take a little bit of mathematics,
Speaker 4: but I don't think it's impossible to get these ratios right.
Speaker 4: And we've got all the formulas at hand. Why not
Speaker 4: use them for something supporting that different type of mathematics.
Speaker 4: Didn't you also have an experience with a guy who
Speaker 4: was trying to submit a paper that had a different
Speaker 4: formal mathematics developed from these different sites.
Speaker 2: You can't accept it because that mathematics has not been invented.
Speaker 1: Yet, right, that's what he's saying, though I invented it, Oh.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but he's he cannot invent something, it has to
Speaker 2: be another then he can work on it. He didn't
Speaker 2: came from them. Well, And another aspect of this that
Speaker 2: I like to include is how do they tune the frequency?
Speaker 2: How did these people tune the correct frequency? And from
Speaker 2: my research, I'm left to believe that this massive stone basins,
Speaker 2: granite basis that we are finding on this site, including
Speaker 2: on this one that the West Long Barrel, a new ranch,
Speaker 2: all of them have these large water basins made of
Speaker 2: highly crystalline stone that are placed on exposed bedrock. So
Speaker 2: you have everything covered with dirt exactly, everything is dirt,
Speaker 2: but the place where the balls of these basins are
Speaker 2: placed is the mother rock is mother rock exposed, so
Speaker 2: there is no loss in the communication between the resonance
Speaker 2: and the ball itself. And then you put water into
Speaker 2: this stuff. And what happens when you start introducing the frequencies.
Speaker 2: The water will turn into easy water, into what the
Speaker 2: engines called living water, what someone called the structured water,
Speaker 2: and it becomes like a gel. And you add these
Speaker 2: vibrations and you start to see patterns on the water itself.
Speaker 2: And you know by the patterns that you show up
Speaker 2: on the water if you are on the right free
Speaker 2: see or not. So it's like a tuning device because
Speaker 2: we see these spirals on the outside of new grounds.
Speaker 2: You have three massive spirals that could be a map
Speaker 2: of the frequency you have to obtain to activate activate
Speaker 2: certain frequency. For instance, when you looked at long distance
Speaker 2: communications systems that happened in Spain, France and the Americas,
Speaker 2: you find that these clifts, massive cliffs, have these concave structures.
Speaker 2: The only ones that work were the ones that have pictograms.
Speaker 2: The others have no art whatsoever, and there's no reason
Speaker 2: for them not to work because they're just the same,
Speaker 2: but they don't work. The ones that work, that allow
Speaker 2: the communication to be on the horizon are all drawn
Speaker 2: with pictograms and rock art and wherever.
Speaker 4: That brings up another interesting subject. All of these cave
Speaker 4: paintings and rock art paintings and adobe paintings have somehow
Speaker 4: survived over thousands and thousands of years because we don't
Speaker 4: exactly know what they're using as paint, because this stuff
Speaker 4: is incredibly robust. I mean, if you think about it,
Speaker 4: how are these, you know, prehistoric materials supposed to stay
Speaker 4: on a rock wall for that many thousands and thousands
Speaker 4: of years? There's something going on with that that we
Speaker 4: don't fully get because they shouldn't be there.
Speaker 1: Still, Yeah, there was a I just watched it recently.
Speaker 1: I think it was yesterday on Twitter. I watched like
Speaker 1: a video where they were showing that they had tested
Speaker 1: some ink that whatever they used to draw on the wall,
Speaker 1: and they said it was the closest place to even
Speaker 1: get that stuff. It was like, I think, if you
Speaker 1: want one hundred and fifty miles away. Yeah, then and
Speaker 1: then you had he heat it up to sixteen hundred
Speaker 1: degrees to burn it to even get it to start
Speaker 1: using it. They're like, how did you why did you
Speaker 1: even go that far? And how did you even know that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I'll give you want more. So why aren't
Speaker 2: we finding torch marks on the ceiling? How the hell
Speaker 2: did they paint on the darkness? I want to touch this, Okay,
Speaker 2: the magnificent, But how did they see in the dark
Speaker 2: because there's no charring on the ceiling, there's no torches
Speaker 2: being used, So how it was it done? And in
Speaker 2: fact I think that in the in the in the French,
Speaker 2: the most famous what it's called, it's not alt A
Speaker 2: mirror because Altamira is in Spain. But the last call
Speaker 2: last cool. I do believe that they it was the
Speaker 2: guys that discovered that and were studying the images at
Speaker 2: the beginning of the century with the torches that burned
Speaker 2: the ceiling that they are now saying that there are
Speaker 2: torches markers on the ceiling because we find a lot
Speaker 2: of this cave with dark They don't have any chart
Speaker 2: on the ceiling, right, And you can.
Speaker 4: Really tell the difference to Marble Cave and Missouri at
Speaker 4: Silver Dollar City. This cave is so massive, right, they
Speaker 4: actually fit multiple balloons underground, like you know, hot air
Speaker 4: balloons underground in this thing. Just giantic. Yeah, and you
Speaker 4: can still see the scorch marks on the ceiling in
Speaker 4: that area, and you know, there had to be like
Speaker 4: five hundred feet a distance between that and the ground,
Speaker 4: and yet you still see these scorch marks. And none
Speaker 4: of these sites in France that have some of the
Speaker 4: oldest rock art in you know, human like forty thousand
Speaker 4: years old, not a single scorch mark on the ceiling
Speaker 4: and all this stuff is perfectly preserved, right.
Speaker 2: And that's where turbo luminoscence, I think comes into action,
Speaker 2: because if you excite the crystal be it by shanting,
Speaker 2: by resonance in the correct place you put it to glow.
Speaker 2: It's like pressing granite with the hydraulic press. If you
Speaker 2: shut the lights out, you see the veins of crystal
Speaker 2: inside it starting to light up. It's faint, but it
Speaker 2: lights up. So could it be some kind of technology
Speaker 2: that we are not fully understanding yet because they have
Speaker 2: to eliminated somehow and it's not electricity technically.
Speaker 1: Sorry, if you want to go buy another book of Mormon.
Speaker 1: If you're there, they're shitting not to well, you know
Speaker 1: their stuff they got over here from glowing rocks on
Speaker 1: the front of their boats. Yes, their story glowing rocks.
Speaker 4: And these boats were all submarines too, So yeah, really interesting.
Speaker 1: So I mean you are getting a story of glowing
Speaker 1: you know, crystals or something right.
Speaker 2: Underwater usos maybe, And now it's going going even No,
Speaker 2: please go ahead, gud. I'm just asking how the excite
Speaker 2: the stones. If they describe how they excite the stone, I.
Speaker 1: Would take probably some sort of frequency right oppressure.
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 5: Well, I was I was going to ask. And this
Speaker 5: makes me wonder even more if these places with the
Speaker 5: three tone generation systems. If they were set up in
Speaker 5: fact for healing centers and or power generation, where were
Speaker 5: their machines of some sort? But were they? I mean,
Speaker 5: I kind of understand, excuse my ignorance, that modern day
Speaker 5: electricity is kind of dissonant with a lot of existence,
Speaker 5: if you will, whereas it sounds like this form of
Speaker 5: electro vibration, and there are other kind of tones of
Speaker 5: electricity that can be more consonant with existence if you will.
Speaker 2: Today, I would say that, do you mean the beginning
Speaker 2: of the question again, so I don't miss it.
Speaker 5: Well, I was wondering what they were if these places
Speaker 5: were in fact set up.
Speaker 2: For healing, fling healing? Sorry sorry, were.
Speaker 5: They set up for something else more not mundane, but
Speaker 5: something mechanical?
Speaker 2: I found out. I found out at least one site
Speaker 2: there is the assis shift that when you when you
Speaker 2: calculate the frequencies of the Assirish shift, you find I
Speaker 2: found out that is the only site that I'm aware
Speaker 2: of that doesn't need any sound introduction, is completely autonomous,
Speaker 2: and it's still doing it today. And we know it's
Speaker 2: still doing it today because the water at the bottom
Speaker 2: is still living water. It's still easy water or structed water.
Speaker 2: It has no contaminants that can mingle with the water.
Speaker 2: There's a lot of debris, but it doesn't manage to
Speaker 2: mingle with the water. Water is as pure as can
Speaker 2: be because it's it's when you look at it at
Speaker 2: a super microscope, you find out that the molecules are
Speaker 2: formed as exagons, so there is no space for impurities
Speaker 2: to fix in the middle. That's why it is so pure.
Speaker 2: So how they manage this is there are three shafts
Speaker 2: that are not in Zahirola was designed right because he
Speaker 2: was the one that solved that problem, and I'm sure
Speaker 2: he's the one who's going to solve the new one
Speaker 2: of the underground structures. So everyone was talking about the
Speaker 2: Osari's Shift as the place of where they healed Osiris,
Speaker 2: and the workers were using the water to take bath
Speaker 2: in and to drink and all of that stuff. They
Speaker 2: even made a tube all the way down the bedrock
Speaker 2: just to bring water from there to their workplace to
Speaker 2: drink it at the background of the university that is
Speaker 2: right there. And so he was forced to go there
Speaker 2: and measure to himself and produce the paper that is
Speaker 2: the only paper we have about the ASII scheft is
Speaker 2: the one that he made. So when we use all
Speaker 2: the measures that he provide, and we include the three
Speaker 2: shafts that he didn't put on the paper but are documented,
Speaker 2: those three shafts are responsible to create the different frequencies
Speaker 2: beyond the human resonance. So they created a system that
Speaker 2: is completely autonomous and brings different frequencies to each healing
Speaker 2: granite box because it has several granite box on the
Speaker 2: second level and one granite box on the bottom level.
Speaker 2: Whose difference is the one on the bottom level is
Speaker 2: completely submerged. Only the lid is above the water, so
Speaker 2: the effects would be much more potent there. And so
Speaker 2: by calculating the resulting frequencies uses in therapy with the
Speaker 2: uses of ancient Egyptian medicine that are the bandages and
Speaker 2: the wong wins that they apply to the skin and all,
Speaker 2: be it a dronken limb or a cut or wherever,
Speaker 2: the results can go up to forty percent more quicker
Speaker 2: in terms of healing under this inside these tanks, I
Speaker 2: calculated that for broken leg it's forty percent quicker to
Speaker 2: heal if you are immersing these tanks for one to
Speaker 2: two hours a day. Let alone to be there for
Speaker 2: on fro twenty four hours.
Speaker 4: I have a theory. So new agers now have these
Speaker 4: massive singing bowls. Yeah, people can stand in water in
Speaker 4: the middle of them, and once you hit the resonant tone,
Speaker 4: it goes all throughout the person's body.
Speaker 1: Oh wow, that's interesting. Yeah as well.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I thought at the beginning that they were using
Speaker 2: salt water, because salt water is very good to permeate
Speaker 2: the skin. But then I found out about the water
Speaker 2: at the bottom and living water or restructed water or
Speaker 2: easy water as goes by the skin as if the
Speaker 2: skin isn't there. So every single inguent that is applied
Speaker 2: to the bandages is immediately absorbed into the body. That's
Speaker 2: why the effects are quicker. And then you have the
Speaker 2: resonance acting on the water itself where you are submerged,
Speaker 2: and all of that enhances the process. Sorry, go on, well,
Speaker 2: I I was just gonna say.
Speaker 4: That the resonant frequency of the Earth right seven point
Speaker 4: eight herts inside of a structure that has the Helmholtz
Speaker 4: frequency of seven point eight herts would create the resonance right.
Speaker 2: Right.
Speaker 4: I mean that way, it wouldn't even need any other
Speaker 4: frequency as a principle, we're using the Helmholtz frequency of
Speaker 4: the Earth itself.
Speaker 2: No, because you have you have different each each one
Speaker 2: of the chambers that contains the the these healing granite
Speaker 2: boxes has a different frequency, so it treats different things.
Speaker 2: And I presume that the one at the bottom that
Speaker 2: they call is where Osirius was resrected with the four pillars.
Speaker 2: That indicates some form of plasma energy going on through
Speaker 2: these pillars into the box. I presume that could even
Speaker 2: be for very serious cases, very serious trauma recovering would
Speaker 2: be at the bottom end of the structure. And the
Speaker 2: other ones are for different maladies because they work between
Speaker 2: the ninety and one hundred and forty earths that is
Speaker 2: then conducted into the into the box, the bread box
Speaker 2: into the water that then produce different frequencies according to
Speaker 2: the level of the water and so on. So it's
Speaker 2: it's it's complicated, but it works. The fact is we
Speaker 2: are using those same frequencies today that I found on
Speaker 2: the on my research, using the same frequencies today to
Speaker 2: use in acoustic therapy to heal certain things.
Speaker 3: Ricardo, you mentioned the icosagrahedron. Yes, what we're talking about healing,
Speaker 3: what was the object that exhibited that three D.
Speaker 2: Geometry, which when it's when it's all assembled, it will
Speaker 2: make a globe by the combining of a two orcahedron
Speaker 2: with the octahedron. I'm not sure, but it's the combining
Speaker 2: of two produces this structure. And coincidentally, they found that
Speaker 2: every single line of this geometric form is where they
Speaker 2: find the strongest lines of the energy luic energy that
Speaker 2: they are following, and the all of the twelve vortoses
Speaker 2: or viral vortoises exists under this this uh, each one
Speaker 2: of these lines so convergences.
Speaker 3: So it jarred. It jarred a thing in my head.
Speaker 3: Been going back to my courses and immunology and so
Speaker 3: forth in vaccine theory and what have you, is that
Speaker 3: most of the protein structures in your body that deliver
Speaker 3: proteins to the actual cell are oco cedrihedrons. They are
Speaker 3: the most stable proof protein in order to deliver things.
Speaker 3: And what's even more interesting is that whenever your body
Speaker 3: encounters a bacteria, whatever particle, whatever, it tears it up
Speaker 3: into different pieces and then it will display or the
Speaker 3: immune cell will display pictures or actual structures of the
Speaker 3: actual organism to anigen present I mean dagen presenting cells
Speaker 3: will display it to like lymphocytes or whatever, so that
Speaker 3: it takes pieces and it makes antibodies to it and
Speaker 3: then disperses it out. But what's interesting is when the
Speaker 3: actual immune cell is presenting that particle, it is in
Speaker 3: the shape of an ogo cedrihedron, and so it's interesting
Speaker 3: that it's delivering information in order to create an actual
Speaker 3: healing mechanism. So that's why I was like this, This
Speaker 3: is really fascinating because it almost identical to inequality really
Speaker 3: and what's what's even more is that at in vaccine
Speaker 3: theory and when they're looking at vaccine delivery or drug
Speaker 3: delivery drugs, is they're wanting to place it in these
Speaker 3: types of euclidean igosaidrahedrons.
Speaker 2: So it's it's interesting that it all came Apparently it's
Speaker 2: another case of coincidence explanning for sure. And as a
Speaker 2: bowl so below, as above, so below, and so on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's something you mentioned before I think about the
Speaker 1: structure water. Did you say it was in like a
Speaker 1: hexagon shape and that's why the purities something.
Speaker 2: Like that because every single so when you have an
Speaker 2: exigon and combine imagine a mat made of axagons. Every
Speaker 2: single frame they are all connected. There is no space between.
Speaker 1: Do stonework like that in your backyart.
Speaker 3: It is the most stable structure that you can have,
Speaker 3: the most surface when bees use.
Speaker 5: It for eyes.
Speaker 1: That's what I was going to say. Now, I wonder
Speaker 1: if this whole hexagon thing, I mean, I think according
Speaker 1: something that I read recently, I thought between like the
Speaker 1: bees flapping and the hexagon shape inside the bee haveve
Speaker 1: is like actually like helping like create stuff like the
Speaker 1: frequency and the shape yea.
Speaker 2: And how how this is completely off topic, but maybe
Speaker 2: any of you have look into this. How is that
Speaker 2: those gigantic bees with those very small wings fly They're
Speaker 2: not supposed to.
Speaker 3: It's it has to do with the way that the
Speaker 3: beating of the wings and produce some sort of.
Speaker 1: Them.
Speaker 3: It is the platypus of insects. It should not be
Speaker 3: it should they should not be able to fly the
Speaker 3: way that they are and then carrying all of that
Speaker 3: pollen as well. And how often that they become yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, do they create an energy field or.
Speaker 1: So?
Speaker 2: Let's I have a.
Speaker 4: Very clear descriptor of the easy zone right there. If
Speaker 4: you could tell the charges on either side change and
Speaker 4: it creates a hexagonal field of these now ordered chemicals, right,
Speaker 4: And so what happens is is within that change of charge,
Speaker 4: it pushes objects out of the way using these hexagonal
Speaker 4: created So ice is hexagonal too, right. It creates this
Speaker 4: kind of simulation of ice with a more gelatin like structure.
Speaker 4: So the easy zones around these particles have this sort
Speaker 4: of gel like structure. So if you get the water
Speaker 4: tuned to the right frequency, then it's going to react
Speaker 4: as if the entire thing is full of these particles
Speaker 4: that create these easy zones. So you'd have to hit
Speaker 4: that principle and then from there you structure everything out
Speaker 4: of the water. It's just like pushing it through. This
Speaker 4: is how our bodies actually circulate. Most of the blood
Speaker 4: is through the easy zones that actually create a direction
Speaker 4: inside of the veins and arteries without having to you know,
Speaker 4: use any power. So it's functionally a straw because of
Speaker 4: the way that the charges work inside of those zones.
Speaker 1: Yeah, another thing I just wanted to say real quick.
Speaker 1: I totally forgot it was one of the reasons why
Speaker 1: I want to bring up the hexagon. To go back
Speaker 1: to the honey again. But isn't that even known as
Speaker 1: like something you can use as a barrier, so it
Speaker 1: doesn't like, you know, get penetrated or so. I just
Speaker 1: find it weird. How are you're making something with the
Speaker 1: hexagonal shape and you're saying that the way the same
Speaker 1: way that that that water works. I mean, it sounds
Speaker 1: very similar.
Speaker 3: The level of sugar does not allow for the growth
Speaker 3: of bacteria, so if you were it's something like that.
Speaker 3: I think that's kind of the concept of why they
Speaker 3: placed organs and couponic jars filled with honey.
Speaker 1: When I heard.
Speaker 3: And it doesn't have a shelf life, like it doesn't
Speaker 3: go bad.
Speaker 2: Sure, they found honey with two thousand years in Egypt
Speaker 2: and it's who was still eatable h.
Speaker 1: Two thousand dollars an ounce.
Speaker 2: Well, I wouldn't eat it, but it was properly sealed.
Speaker 2: It was properly sealed, and they said it was still
Speaker 2: eatable because it was properly sealed.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 1: I just I just when I thought of like honey
Speaker 1: and the structured border the hexagon, I was like, that's
Speaker 1: just it seems weird.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's just the same. Everything is somehow connected. Everything
Speaker 2: leads us in a big circle. As long as we
Speaker 2: follow the threats, and you'll find that everything happens to
Speaker 2: be connected. And it's like reality is extremely simple, so
Speaker 2: much so that we cannot see it, but as a
Speaker 2: very complicated stuff. It's like trying trying to explain the
Speaker 2: universe by looking at the at the B line.
Speaker 4: So I've got this book here called Sacred Geometry, and
Speaker 4: it's talking about how all of these different frequencies create
Speaker 4: these mandola effects, use the uh that that version, and
Speaker 4: so what they're saying here is that using the sacred
Speaker 4: geometry alongside the frequencies changes the nature of a place,
Speaker 4: you know, And they're saying that in the geometry textbooks
Speaker 4: as well as you know, in the frequency textbooks. But
Speaker 4: the two of them aren't allowed to be studied together
Speaker 4: for some reason, and so we get a lot less
Speaker 4: of the type of scientific exploration of these topics because
Speaker 4: it's all woo, because they don't read any of the
Speaker 4: stuff that their own people put out apparently.
Speaker 2: Well, one of the things that is interesting in this
Speaker 2: is when we start to get out of the site
Speaker 2: itself as an isolated scene and start to connect it
Speaker 2: to other sites, and so we start to thinking, Okay,
Speaker 2: how are they connected. They are connected by what is
Speaker 2: called the crystalline matrix of the Earth, where information goes
Speaker 2: at about seven kilometers per second, which is not very fast,
Speaker 2: but it's not very slow. So anything that you could
Speaker 2: send from our perspective of what we can do today,
Speaker 2: the information will go through this matrix that's seven kilometers
Speaker 2: per second. Now, this brings it to me to a
Speaker 2: very interesting point in this research and of the book,
Speaker 2: that is, we are completely aware of the cult of Ancestors,
Speaker 2: and that these people do these ceremonies, and do they
Speaker 2: seem that they are devoting themselves to the death, to
Speaker 2: the dead and so on. I think differently. I think
Speaker 2: that when we put in place this idea of vibrational
Speaker 2: imprinting and doing the rituals the same place that can
Speaker 2: activate these trillions of crystals that are in each stone,
Speaker 2: that these rituals are very are being vibrational imprinted into
Speaker 2: the stone itself. So when you reach this level of
Speaker 2: consciousness inside the structure repeating the ritual, you are communing
Speaker 2: with all the others that were before you doing the
Speaker 2: same ritual. In your transcendence of mind. You'll hear their voices,
Speaker 2: You'll hear their stories. There is even people that go
Speaker 2: as far as say that even the structured water could
Speaker 2: hold that information and even projected that information as an
Speaker 2: hologram that happens in our heads by the hive mind
Speaker 2: behavior of the quantum entanglement. And this quantum entanglement is
Speaker 2: what I think motivated a tribe here and the tribe
Speaker 2: that is seventy kilometers away on a similar structure, communicating
Speaker 2: with one another in this high hive mind states that
Speaker 2: are conducted from the crystal matrix. Now people can ask, okay,
Speaker 2: but how can you fuse a person with a stone?
Speaker 2: Very simple. As soon as you enter in the same
Speaker 2: signature of frequency, there is no difference in the matter.
Speaker 2: You are still an individual, but there is no difference.
Speaker 2: That's why a camera.
Speaker 4: Are you aware of? The paranormal idea or theory about
Speaker 4: why paranormal events happen at certain places called the stone
Speaker 4: tape theory, the idea that materials can actually retain a
Speaker 4: lot of the I guess it would be vibrational values
Speaker 4: of that happened in the past, and you get the
Speaker 4: same playing over and over again. That's sort of the
Speaker 4: same idea. So human kind could be the result of
Speaker 4: the combination of stone own tape theory and the stoned
Speaker 4: ape theory at the same place.
Speaker 2: Exactly, exactly, no doubt about it.
Speaker 3: What is it those record players? You know you press
Speaker 3: sounds and you can play it forever, which you described Ricolo.
Speaker 3: You were talking about how you can go to this
Speaker 3: area and the ancients were located in one area, and
Speaker 3: then the ancient other tribes were located in another area
Speaker 3: and they could commute. That is superpositioning. That is quantum entanglement.
Speaker 3: It is the ability to do things. And sometimes there's
Speaker 3: a theory that you can invoke that through the old
Speaker 3: factories in that memory can simulate or smell can stimulate memories,
Speaker 3: even though you don't have the memory themselves. The just
Speaker 3: smelling something. You can hate to use this download an
Speaker 3: actual memory because it would invoke the superpositioning of the
Speaker 3: quantum world.
Speaker 2: That idea leads me to the curious saying that when
Speaker 2: they found out that, for instance, this movement of my
Speaker 2: arm only the signal that my brain sent to the
Speaker 2: body for me to raise the arm, this is completely
Speaker 2: wrong because that's not how what happens, because the signal
Speaker 2: will get to my brain a fraction of a second
Speaker 2: after I start moving my arm and they can't understand that.
Speaker 2: So that's why they say that there is some time.
Speaker 2: How should I say there is something wrong with the
Speaker 2: time when it comes to quantum computing or what our
Speaker 2: brain does. Because the information gets the action happens before
Speaker 2: the information is processed. And I'm associating this with the
Speaker 2: fact that, as you were saying, this quantum entanglement cares
Speaker 2: not for distance of the placement, and it can be
Speaker 2: achieved by a person alone in the right conditions, as
Speaker 2: it can be achieved by a group of people. And
Speaker 2: I think that most people that have experiences because they
Speaker 2: went to some place, it's because they were at the
Speaker 2: right or wrong place at the right time, and they
Speaker 2: were entuned somehow with that frequency. Their emotional state led
Speaker 2: them to be resonated in a frequency that resonated with
Speaker 2: the site and created this entanglement. And people get these
Speaker 2: visions the context of things that probably happened a long
Speaker 2: time ago, but the brain makes it real. That's what happens.
Speaker 2: I think.
Speaker 3: I think that the Arrival and interstellar attempt to explain
Speaker 3: that that time is circular all have at the same time.
Speaker 1: Movies.
Speaker 4: There if if there is some credence here. I think
Speaker 4: you would have to look at vibration itself. I mean,
Speaker 4: vibration causes solid matter to be in flux. And when
Speaker 4: you're introducing those vibrations in there, they're going through you
Speaker 4: into the walls. You know, there's something to the idea
Speaker 4: that there's they're carrying some kind of information along with them.
Speaker 4: You can see that over and over again throughout ancient history.
Speaker 4: They believe that there was memory in these songs and
Speaker 4: that's why it was it was important for them to
Speaker 4: perform certain tasks at certain places. So you have the
Speaker 4: tradition there of these songs acting as memory within the temples,
Speaker 4: which were you know, designed with these these you know,
Speaker 4: principles in mind. So all of that together really does
Speaker 4: produce sort of a vision of maybe there was something
Speaker 4: more to this stuff back then. Maybe they had the keys.
Speaker 2: Who maybe they were a type one civilization. And I'm
Speaker 2: starting to believe.
Speaker 1: You know, you know what I wanted to mention, and
Speaker 1: it just just just minded me because he kind of
Speaker 1: brought it up again. Lisa, maybe you'd remember better. Do
Speaker 1: you remember when we covered that that Marian image on
Speaker 1: Teresa's show? Yeah, was that part of a specific church,
Speaker 1: Like was that in a church or anything specifically? I
Speaker 1: can't remember that.
Speaker 3: So yeah, so the you're talking about, like did it
Speaker 3: happen inside of a church?
Speaker 4: No?
Speaker 1: No, that image, that image that they have is that
Speaker 1: part of like in a church, Like, is that is
Speaker 1: that a piece a church?
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's in a vasilica and it was imprinted on
Speaker 3: a cloak and was supposedly the legend. The way it
Speaker 3: is is that not to get too detailed of it,
Speaker 3: is that whether you believe it or not, is that
Speaker 3: the archbishop that was to be given the message, he
Speaker 3: was from a place in Spain that knew exactly what
Speaker 3: it was going to mean. The roses were Celian. The
Speaker 3: roses Castilian did not grow in Mexico. Labejalpe Virgen in
Speaker 3: Spain was from the town he was from. She was
Speaker 3: the black Madonna. That Juadalupe is the river that is
Speaker 3: named after. I believe it has a dual meaning, like
Speaker 3: it's both abrah Arabic and Spanish or Latin, but it
Speaker 3: also means mouth of wolves or something. And so the
Speaker 3: the entire message, even though it is completely clo cloaked,
Speaker 3: it completely dressed in Aztec symbolism. The words and the
Speaker 3: meanings of what the message was was tailored specifically to
Speaker 3: the archbishop that I'm sorry, the bishop that was there
Speaker 3: because of where he came from in Spain. And so
Speaker 3: it's almost like almost like a quantum moment in time
Speaker 3: of taking that message from that part in Spain and
Speaker 3: then transmitmuting it into that place in that that hill
Speaker 3: and the hill itself where she supposedly appeared was a
Speaker 3: goddess to the Aztec people, and she was like the
Speaker 3: Medusa or whatever, but she would also was for rebirth
Speaker 3: and what have you. Yes, it was placed specifically in
Speaker 3: a church that supposedly has lay lines and so forth.
Speaker 1: Yes, what I was thinking, sorry, is there was designs
Speaker 1: around it that could have possibly made music, and I
Speaker 1: just thought it might have been specific to that church.
Speaker 3: Oh yes, I'm sorry. Yes, on the cloak itself, it
Speaker 3: has patterns that if you were to place them into
Speaker 3: a musical instrument, it plays music.
Speaker 1: It's actual tuned specifically for that church. If that image
Speaker 1: was inside a church, that's all. Yeah.
Speaker 2: No, I'm sorry, you're not talking about the shroud of
Speaker 2: Turin No, no, no, no, okay, okay, yes, So.
Speaker 4: In Lacrosse, Wisconsin, they have this shrine to Our Lady Guadalupe.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you can see that, but it
Speaker 4: is on top of this hill overlooking the city, and
Speaker 4: I mean there's nothing else around it that's anywhere close
Speaker 4: to how grand and magnificent this place is. And it's
Speaker 4: like it's just comes out of nowhere. But the entire
Speaker 4: church is like it's a recent build, but it's all
Speaker 4: based around this vision of Guadalupe and Mexico, and it's
Speaker 4: you know, it's kind of odd that, you know, it
Speaker 4: would be celebrated up here so far away from it.
Speaker 4: But this, this Our Lady Guadalupe thing is very much
Speaker 4: like the mystical heart of the Catholic Church.
Speaker 2: From there, I mean, here is is Fatima. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I was gonna say. In the Americas it's Ue Lupe, yeah, and.
Speaker 2: Here you have the same thing. But with Fatima, it's
Speaker 2: it's I think it's the only para paranormal event that
Speaker 2: is recognized by the Vatican. This is what happened in Fatima.
Speaker 2: Although I find very strange that someone would say to
Speaker 2: treat children, go home and mutilate yourself for the scenes
Speaker 2: of others. It doesn't make any sense to me, and
Speaker 2: they and they did nutilate themselves seriously, seriously, so it
Speaker 2: makes no sense. But it was witnessed by I don't remember,
Speaker 2: it was twelve thousand people or something like that. The
Speaker 2: second or third time it happened, they all saw the sun. Yeah,
Speaker 2: the sun come real close, real close, real close, until
Speaker 2: they couldn't see anything else but light. And then the
Speaker 2: light spoke and it's gone. And that's the last thing.
Speaker 2: But it's quite a strange event. But could it have
Speaker 2: happened by could be explained by some kind of hive
Speaker 2: mind of some note that appear there are suddenly some vortex.
Speaker 2: Something can explain not meaning that it is, but it
Speaker 2: can explain it. You'll still happen today in a lotri
Speaker 2: So you go to visit a lottery and a lot
Speaker 2: of people still have hallucinations and hear voices. And that's
Speaker 2: one of the reasons people go there because each time
Speaker 2: you cross the gate of one of the nine gates
Speaker 2: that it has, it has these magnetic vortices that automatically
Speaker 2: tune your brain to one hundred and ten hertz, so
Speaker 2: everyone is on the same frequency, but answering what you're
Speaker 2: saying before headless when they use this camera that detects
Speaker 2: the magnetic fields and the signatures of the people and
Speaker 2: of the rocks or whatever. When they put someone meditating
Speaker 2: on top or in front of that stone, you can
Speaker 2: see the stone and the person as soon as the
Speaker 2: person entering the state of meditation helps by the site itself,
Speaker 2: which the exact same level. This is to create this
Speaker 2: entanglement between the two. The person and the stone are
Speaker 2: the same. They just disappear from the image. There is
Speaker 2: no more person there. They are all the same thing.
Speaker 2: And even if it is on top of the stone,
Speaker 2: person will still disappear from the image. It's all the stone.
Speaker 2: So it's all a matter of like, like it's often said,
Speaker 2: it's all a matter of frequency and vibration, as Tesla
Speaker 2: was saying so many times.
Speaker 4: Right, but this could explain all of these instances of
Speaker 4: miracles happening in the ancient world. Is just you know,
Speaker 4: it's part of these frequencies and how they were you know, perceived.
Speaker 2: Yeah, all, my only absolutism is to not be absolutistic.
Speaker 4: All.
Speaker 2: I don't know, but it can explain a lot of
Speaker 2: these things because we know that just because it's your imagination,
Speaker 2: it doesn't mean you don't get cut, or your skin
Speaker 2: doesn't open, or you don't have hurt or bruises. It
Speaker 2: can only be it can just be done by your mind.
Speaker 2: We know that the mind has the ability to create
Speaker 2: those those openings in the flesh or those bruises or whatever.
Speaker 2: The mind can create it. So even an abduction can
Speaker 2: be just one event of hallucination. But doesn't mean that
Speaker 2: all of them are hallucination. I do you agree, But
Speaker 2: but it can justify that people just saying no, it
Speaker 2: has the marks, he has the cuts, no, no, no, no.
Speaker 2: That the mind can do a lot of stuff to
Speaker 2: the body.
Speaker 4: It can be a both ends situation where the human
Speaker 4: mind is being used as the manifesto that yeah.
Speaker 1: I have often thought that some people who uh maybe
Speaker 1: with these UFO sightings were like targeted, like you just
Speaker 1: like shot with them, and that's the experience. They thought
Speaker 1: they had something.
Speaker 2: But if you go and take a high dose of
Speaker 2: phylo saban, for instance, and you pass through the experience
Speaker 2: of being abducted, right, it was the drug. So when
Speaker 2: it happens but you did take no drug, no one
Speaker 2: will consider that it was because he was in the
Speaker 2: wrong place at the wrong time. In the wrong frequency
Speaker 2: or whatever, and it created that hallucination.
Speaker 4: So right, mine's become more malleable at different frequencies. I
Speaker 4: think that's that's a big part of why the government
Speaker 4: is so interested in this stuff is I think they
Speaker 4: can They believe they can come up with a pause button, right,
Speaker 4: the correct amount of frequency applied to the body in
Speaker 4: this certain way, you could get a person to turn off.
Speaker 4: And I think that's a big goal of most governments,
Speaker 4: is you know they were an off button on humans,
Speaker 4: or at least a pause button.
Speaker 2: Sure, Well, they cannot weaponize this, and that's that's a
Speaker 2: big detriment because they don't know how to opanize it.
Speaker 2: They tried, the Russians tried it. The problem is affected everyone,
Speaker 2: not only the enemy, but even their own troops. So
Speaker 2: if affects everyone, you cannot use it.
Speaker 4: So well.
Speaker 5: In contrast, it seems like they're hiding the benefits and
Speaker 5: also look looking to make it detrimental too, as you
Speaker 5: as you point out, but it seems like the benefits
Speaker 5: too are being hidden.
Speaker 2: Well, they are using for their own benefits. If you
Speaker 2: go to their clinics, they will have these tanks with water.
Speaker 2: We don't know what the water is. They use electricity,
Speaker 2: so micro impulse electrics, they use magnetics, they use all
Speaker 2: of these type of technologies, but they are not accessible
Speaker 2: to the public. If you see the documentary Thrive, Thrive, Yes, thrive, sorry,
Speaker 2: Strive is to accomplish, right to evolve is strife, right,
Speaker 2: I'm saying thrive. So you have drive one. Drive one
Speaker 2: is more dedicated to free energy and these boxes that
Speaker 2: you can have at the outside your door and they'll
Speaker 2: produce more than enough electricity for your complete house and
Speaker 2: with no fuel into them. And the second one is
Speaker 2: more dedicated to all these new technologies of healing that
Speaker 2: are completely in accordance to these ancient technologies of frequency.
Speaker 5: And another benefit that they are aware of or we
Speaker 5: all are aware of, is the vibrations destroying parasites. Right,
Speaker 5: isn't And I believe that the Rife machine I just
Speaker 5: was trying to figure out the name was designed on that.
Speaker 5: It's been uh, you know, cast as a conspiracy and
Speaker 5: you know, not not medically accepted, but same principle getting
Speaker 5: finding the vibration that works again as to the parasitic
Speaker 5: infection but doesn't hurt the host. Yeah, pretty simple idea.
Speaker 5: But right to your point of all these healing potential places.
Speaker 2: Sure as a coincidence, we are talking about the the tritactyls.
Speaker 2: One of them has a something on his chest that
Speaker 2: has so its rounds. This side is round than has
Speaker 2: a connection, and it's right here. And the material that
Speaker 2: that is, they say that it's made. It's used medically
Speaker 2: to destroy parasites, to purify things. That's what they use.
Speaker 2: And in fact it is only dangerous if inhaled. If
Speaker 2: inhaled it can irritate to lums and because it's a
Speaker 2: dust that is quite rough, but as a material is
Speaker 2: us medically to clean bodies and purified stuff. So I
Speaker 2: found that interesting that it was on the chest of
Speaker 2: that creature.
Speaker 3: It's so much different like whenever you are serializing, like
Speaker 3: one of those laboratory cabinets we use UV light, you're
Speaker 3: using photons to serilize. And so if you take the
Speaker 3: concept of photons being used to serialize, then you can
Speaker 3: use the concept of phonons. I think that's what they
Speaker 3: call particles of sound. You can use. The concept would
Speaker 3: be virtually the same. I think if you could find
Speaker 3: the correct frequency to do that to basically just resonate
Speaker 3: every even the water inside their bodies and combust them
Speaker 3: or tear them open. I don't think.
Speaker 2: If you are interested in that, I advise you to
Speaker 2: watch the Strive To documentary because they will go deep
Speaker 2: into that and they'll show the machines that they are
Speaker 2: they now using by these rich people with extraordinary they
Speaker 2: are healing serious, serious illness by emitting the right frequency
Speaker 2: that either helps the body to reject the bad element
Speaker 2: or destroys directly the bad element because they have the
Speaker 2: exact same frequency and they send the anti frequency of
Speaker 2: the frequency that that organism resonates and they kill it.
Speaker 3: And would that be the same concept as using magnets.
Speaker 2: In terms of metics, it includes electromagnetics. I think it's
Speaker 2: for different therapies instead of being by cancers or but yes,
Speaker 2: they also use it.
Speaker 4: Well, there's also the I saw a scientist who turn
Speaker 4: seawater into a vertable liquid using frequency. So he's hitting
Speaker 4: the sea water with a frequency and he can light
Speaker 4: it on fire. And it's like, well, that seems like
Speaker 4: that takes care of the power crisis as long as
Speaker 4: the fact is it. You know, to electromagnetically draining, you've
Speaker 4: You've got solid state fuel all around the planet, and
Speaker 4: what are they doing with that?
Speaker 2: Burned the ocean, all the oceans inflamed.
Speaker 4: You could you could have massive power plants that just
Speaker 4: use seawater instead of you know, all this nuclear energy
Speaker 4: and all the rest of the stuff to boil water.
Speaker 4: I don't think that'd be kind of interesting.
Speaker 2: Where is that supercar presented in the in the exposition
Speaker 2: the World Fair of Cars. It was presented twelve years ago,
Speaker 2: that can go four hundred kilometers an hour and work
Speaker 2: at seawater. That's the only thing you have to put
Speaker 2: on the on the on the tank was seawater. He
Speaker 2: was presented on this very mainstream expo, but it disappeared
Speaker 2: completely as soon as the exposition ended. Where is it, Noel?
Speaker 2: The technology, technology didn't appear anywhere. It just finished the
Speaker 2: guy that did it. Yes, in order to do what
Speaker 2: he did, it had to be. It has to be
Speaker 2: in the billion scale to create something like that.
Speaker 4: We are on a huge precipice when it comes to
Speaker 4: water science just right now. All we have to do
Speaker 4: is go back to looking at frequency, vibration, easy zones
Speaker 4: and all the rest of that stuff and start applying
Speaker 4: that in general to biology and all these other forms
Speaker 4: of physics, and you'll find that, you know, the idea
Speaker 4: of these cavitation bubbles. Have you ever heard of this? So,
Speaker 4: cavitation bubbles are produced from a void in water, right,
Speaker 4: So when you see a ship's propeller or whatever moving
Speaker 4: through the water, it creates these cavitation bubbles that are
Speaker 4: purely because of the amount of energy you're just moving
Speaker 4: through the water creates these voids. Well, if you can
Speaker 4: actually create a cavitation bubble between two frequencies and then
Speaker 4: have that cavitation bubble produce light out of this bubble,
Speaker 4: and these have been studies that have been done for years,
Speaker 4: and it's like, that's called fusion. You're creating light and
Speaker 4: energy out of a cavitation bubble from water. So what
Speaker 4: if we apply other energies to it. What if you
Speaker 4: know you've got that frequency to create this uh, you
Speaker 4: know seawater that lights on fire, apply that too, Well,
Speaker 4: now you've got a self sustaining source of energy that's
Speaker 4: sort of like fusion. I guess it would be fusion really,
Speaker 4: and nobody's talking about it. You know, it's it's right there,
Speaker 4: it's available, And that would be uh energy from the void.
Speaker 4: If you think about it, cavitation means a cavity. All
Speaker 4: you're doing is taking the energy from a cavity. And
Speaker 4: if that's the case, that that opens up a whole
Speaker 4: new branch of science and technical I.
Speaker 2: Don't know how it is related, but I know that
Speaker 2: they now use for some years now, they use two
Speaker 2: opposite rotating propellers on the ships to to don't create
Speaker 2: that cavitation because that slows that energy slows the boat down.
Speaker 2: So they will take they have a specific form for
Speaker 2: the for the propeller and they will take each one
Speaker 2: in the difference, which doesn't make any sense, but they
Speaker 2: do retate opposite one to another to order to avoid
Speaker 2: those those black holes in the water. Let's call it
Speaker 2: like that that sucked the boat backwards. And that's the
Speaker 2: term that they use is cavitation. So that that's how
Speaker 2: I see the connection, right.
Speaker 4: But you know, if they're if they're slowing down in
Speaker 4: the water because of that, that means that there's a
Speaker 4: lot of energy being used in those cavitation bubbles and
Speaker 4: nobody's harnessing that power, you know, and it does eat
Speaker 4: away at ships. These cavitation bubbles.
Speaker 2: Will eat away at chips exactly.
Speaker 4: And how is cavitation eating away at ships unless there's
Speaker 4: a lot of energy inside of that. Well, I don't
Speaker 4: see how people don't see this.
Speaker 5: You know.
Speaker 2: The problem is there has to be control and the
Speaker 2: system has to prevail, right and if if everyone starts
Speaker 2: to becoming independent, feding energy will be then what do
Speaker 2: they have to control us? Right right now? If they
Speaker 2: end to control us, they have to just unplug the power.
Speaker 2: And we are powerless. We don't have food, we don't
Speaker 2: have water, we don't have communications, we don't have anything.
Speaker 2: We are becoming immediately isolated from the world, no matter
Speaker 2: how populated that the neighborhood is, because in three days,
Speaker 2: everyone will be fighting for food and water and they
Speaker 2: don't mind what I have to do for their family
Speaker 2: to survive.
Speaker 5: And I wonder, I mean, this is highly speculative to
Speaker 5: bear with me, but I wonder if some of these
Speaker 5: sites might have not even helped develop our minds into
Speaker 5: a state where we were more telepathic. And I mean,
Speaker 5: if that is what institutions would definitely dislike if we
Speaker 5: knew we're being wied to, you know, and I know
Speaker 5: it's crazy to suggest, but what if it really got
Speaker 5: our hands into like the telepathy tapes, into a place
Speaker 5: where we were grounded but intuitive.
Speaker 2: That's that's exactly how a lottery was described before they
Speaker 2: put the cathedral there, concentrating all the energy inside the cathedral.
Speaker 2: They what is described on the lottery is that they
Speaker 2: all share the same hive mind where they knew exactly
Speaker 2: if you are an outsider, if you are lying. It's
Speaker 2: not like mind mind reading, but they could pass on.
Speaker 2: The people are more readable, so you cannot fool the
Speaker 2: other person, or they can detect your intentions. It's described
Speaker 2: something as that in a lottery. And it is a
Speaker 2: huge city. It's not a small place. It is big.
Speaker 2: So it's fascinating that they were using that. That's wild, Yeah,
Speaker 2: and still happens today.
Speaker 5: Go on, go on.
Speaker 3: That was I'm sorry. That was the concept to with
Speaker 3: arrival is that? And I don't know if you've seen
Speaker 3: in the movie, but basically, these in terrestrials come in
Speaker 3: and their language itself is taught to one of the scientists,
Speaker 3: and in learning that language, it reshaped her brain and
Speaker 3: made synapses that were not there before. And in making
Speaker 3: those synapses, because she learned the language, she was now
Speaker 3: capable of seeing time circular. That was the premise of it.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and I think that is true. I think
Speaker 3: the way that you learn things, it's no different than
Speaker 3: learning several languages. You now have an extensive I guess
Speaker 3: ability to communicate your feeling and feelings are not binary.
Speaker 3: Language is binary, right, and so when you go to
Speaker 3: describe a feeling, you cannot because language is binary, where
Speaker 3: feelings are not. They transcend binary. But when you have
Speaker 3: multiple languages, you can you can feel a little bit
Speaker 3: more of a descriptive availability to you to describe the
Speaker 3: feeling because now you've you know, you have like more
Speaker 3: I guess tools. But I think with that movie, it
Speaker 3: was it was kind of tapping into rewiring of the
Speaker 3: brain and being able to harness or be able to
Speaker 3: have more capabilities for what the brain authors like to
Speaker 3: be like telekinesis or even seeing time circular.
Speaker 4: Well, Lisa, what about the movie Interstellar with Woody Harrelson's brother,
Speaker 4: I forgot his name, but where he's talking through books, right,
Speaker 4: but he's inside of a black hole speaking across right,
Speaker 4: So there's and first off, they're talking about this this
Speaker 4: race of beings that created this that they must be
Speaker 4: like gods. And then they're like, wait, we created this,
Speaker 4: and so there's that sort of same messaging there is
Speaker 4: like what if we're connecting to something that's you know,
Speaker 4: inside of us, that's creating this place.
Speaker 2: How many are there? Yeah?
Speaker 1: A lot.
Speaker 3: It's you know, it's like there's a quote and I'm
Speaker 3: going to get it wrong, but it's like travel the
Speaker 3: world and when you venture outside, you will find yourself.
Speaker 3: And I think that kind of embodies that, is that
Speaker 3: we will leave who we are at this moment and
Speaker 3: move beyond and end up read right back to where
Speaker 3: we're at. We created all this just to come back,
Speaker 3: and I think that if you believe in that, the
Speaker 3: people that come back are us, we come back almost
Speaker 3: like an have.
Speaker 2: You ever calculated Have you ever calculated the ratio of
Speaker 2: death versus the ratio of reincarnation? No, because it doesn't
Speaker 2: add up. It doesn't. That's why I don't think reincarnation
Speaker 2: can serve as a full explanation because the ones that
Speaker 2: are here are much much, much less than the world
Speaker 2: and that we're here before. So when Daldo, some people say, oh, no,
Speaker 2: doesn't matter because it's cycled, so it keeps recycling. So
Speaker 2: of the number is just to say no, that's not
Speaker 2: how it happened, because.
Speaker 1: See I didn't have an idea about that though. Actually
Speaker 1: I was wondering because you were saying before about energy
Speaker 1: not being able to be destroyed. Right, I'm also public
Speaker 1: a fu ton of energy through my computer that wasn't used.
Speaker 1: Now music, it's just being harnessed inside of a machine
Speaker 1: instead of skin. Right, So now there's bodies because that
Speaker 1: energy is in there instead of a soul as a
Speaker 1: meat sack. Look sounds crazy, but I'm wondering about this
Speaker 1: is a BioSuit.
Speaker 2: This is a BioSuit the fact. Look what I'm going
Speaker 2: to bring That's why I'm not going to extrapolate here.
Speaker 2: What I'm going to bring into our next trialogue is
Speaker 2: precisely that that our body, not our body, our real
Speaker 2: self that is not on our body, just connected to it.
Speaker 2: Can you use what ver we tell him that is
Speaker 2: our body. That's why the rubber arm experiment works. It
Speaker 2: doesn't matter the if it is your body or not,
Speaker 2: as long as you are telling it that's your body
Speaker 2: you're experiencing.
Speaker 4: And the occultists have been on this for so many centuries,
Speaker 4: talking about being brought into form. They're almost like speaking
Speaker 4: about it from a third person perspective, like we get
Speaker 4: brought into form because they're looking at what's going on
Speaker 4: around them, what is doing.
Speaker 1: That's his story.
Speaker 3: That is, that is what happens at conception in that
Speaker 3: you have an explosion happened within the zygote itself or
Speaker 3: pre psychote, I guess you could say. And it is
Speaker 3: the ability to trap matter, to trap energy into matter
Speaker 3: in that you were basically I guess calling forth, I
Speaker 3: don't know an nsity and energy whatever, and you're able
Speaker 3: to trap it into tissue into mass.
Speaker 2: That's one. That flash of light happened right exactly, Yes.
Speaker 3: When when you were doing IVF for women who were
Speaker 3: doing IVF or I guess both that the the obg
Speaker 3: y ns when they are transferred doing the implantation of
Speaker 3: sperm into the egg, they're looking for that flash. If
Speaker 3: they do not see that flash under the microscope, they
Speaker 3: do not consider those eggs viable and they will not
Speaker 3: transfer them into the uterus. So yes, it is good.
Speaker 2: There you go.
Speaker 4: Well, it would be interesting because this flash again flash
Speaker 4: of light, if we can determine the frequency and repeat
Speaker 4: that and get sort of like a manifestation idea frequency
Speaker 4: going on using those tones and hurts residents.
Speaker 2: Well, I think that's exactly why we are failing to
Speaker 2: cloning or to create viable creatures. We are failing at
Speaker 2: that point. We are only using biology and not metaphysics.
Speaker 2: Because if you think, if you can't, you say that, sorry,
Speaker 2: we solve it for them. I take it back, No,
Speaker 2: you didn't solve them because you are here and so
Speaker 2: are us, and we are not part of the animal wall.
Speaker 2: So we are the only one that's not natural in
Speaker 2: this play. We don't belong anywhere, we don't fit anywhere.
Speaker 2: We can survive anywhere, we need specific conditions. We are
Speaker 2: not made for nature nature, and it's not a matter
Speaker 2: of evolution because the riff is too big, there is
Speaker 2: nothing in the middle. You go from the trees to
Speaker 2: building houses.
Speaker 4: So I think Kate Wheeler has a pretty good explanation
Speaker 4: on that with his idea of these the point or
Speaker 4: the passage of velocity, I think that's what it's called.
Speaker 4: But he's talking about the place between two magnetic poles
Speaker 4: that actually sustains the most amount of life and the
Speaker 4: most amount of energy possible. Is that mathematical zone between
Speaker 4: the two poles on a magnet. And so you look
Speaker 4: at the Earth, you look at the Solar System, you
Speaker 4: look at all these different systems. It all has to
Speaker 4: do with that generalized shape and where things are happening
Speaker 4: and what things are happening. And so when you take
Speaker 4: that specific geometry and make the application to the body,
Speaker 4: you can start seeing all these other relations and it
Speaker 4: goes back into the geometric concept of the planet itself
Speaker 4: and all those different nodes and energy points. It's all
Speaker 4: part of the same system, right, And if you.
Speaker 2: Think about it, that all of this all can just
Speaker 2: be happening at a different level on what we call consciousness.
Speaker 2: We might as well be inside a marble or a
Speaker 2: molly and we are just atoms in there because there
Speaker 2: is no scale. There is no there is no need
Speaker 2: for any of that, because the perception would be exactly
Speaker 2: the same. It's like the end of the mid movie
Speaker 2: where you see the kids playing bowling, and there were
Speaker 2: universes inside of those balls, and then and then galaxies
Speaker 2: and then planets and so on. So I think that
Speaker 2: the scale matter. We reached the conclusion that there is
Speaker 2: no scale. The reality itself doesn't need a space.
Speaker 4: Right, yep. That's the big issue that goes right back
Speaker 4: to Parmenides seven hundred BC, what he's talking about on
Speaker 4: nature and Xenu's paradox, same idea, maybe there is no space,
Speaker 4: that motion is technically impossible, and all they want to
Speaker 4: do is expland it away with some trigonometry. But there's
Speaker 4: a lot more to that concept than anybody gives it
Speaker 4: credit for. Everything is one thing. That's why they call
Speaker 4: it the universe. That's why you know all of these
Speaker 4: things are connected entirely.
Speaker 2: We are now starting to speak about multiverses and we
Speaker 2: are going to overcomplicate this. Instead of going through a singularity,
Speaker 2: we are going through expansion and expansion and expansion without
Speaker 2: end until it becomes completely meaningless. It's it's the old
Speaker 2: saying that you have to look within so that you
Speaker 2: understand what it's outside, and we keep looking outside. We're
Speaker 2: trying to identify everything by what we see outside, and
Speaker 2: further on and further on, and we lose concept of
Speaker 2: what is going on right here right now. And according
Speaker 2: to what mad Scientists was saying is I think that
Speaker 2: once people realize of these moments that we all have
Speaker 2: where we are able to say things that we never
Speaker 2: know we never knew we knew, or that some information
Speaker 2: comes to us all the sudden when we need it,
Speaker 2: or that some event happens and a strange coincidence and
Speaker 2: strange fertitious time for it to happen. That is just
Speaker 2: when people manage to be in what can be called
Speaker 2: the zone, because the objective to me is to bypass
Speaker 2: sinking and the brain completely and trying to live in
Speaker 2: that state that I now have a new word for
Speaker 2: it since our last podcast. I think there is the
Speaker 2: felix felicious state of mind. That is the potion that
Speaker 2: Eric Potter takes and everything goes right if you remember
Speaker 2: it takes the potion and all it does is well,
Speaker 2: I suddenly feel that I should be in that place.
Speaker 2: And we all have those sensations we issues to ignore them.
Speaker 2: So I think that's exactly state of mind that we
Speaker 2: all have to put ourselves. Is not here now, There
Speaker 2: is living in the moment and in this state of
Speaker 2: constant contemplation, as Eaton says, the awareness of awareness. Where
Speaker 2: we are in the zone, we are in connection with
Speaker 2: a kashik network. We have access to information we can
Speaker 2: we don't need to ask for the guidance because we
Speaker 2: are just flowing with it. And as long as we
Speaker 2: flow and we follow our instincts instead of thinking about them,
Speaker 2: perhaps that's how we move into a higher form of self.
Speaker 2: Maybe there's this there's this great show. It's called Dirk
Speaker 2: Gently's Holistic Detective Agency, and he talks about the whole
Speaker 2: time is the flow state. He has to get into
Speaker 2: the flow state so that he could solve these crimes
Speaker 2: or whatever, and so he's just going wherever his intuition
Speaker 2: is pulling him, and in doing so he finds these clues.
Speaker 4: Related to the activity. There's also the Holistic Assassin, which
Speaker 4: never gets hit and she can kill any what she
Speaker 4: wants to. It's the same idea like there's no you know,
Speaker 4: the universe is not playing favorites here. It's like, you
Speaker 4: can do kind of whatever you want to. But these
Speaker 4: are the basic underlying principles that you must abide by.
Speaker 2: Sure, And then then you have these ridiculous things that
Speaker 2: are imposing to us since since we are child, that
Speaker 2: is the relation between good and evil, right, and that
Speaker 2: perception of good and nicol is completely unbiguous. It's completely
Speaker 2: selfish and driven into the self instead of being into
Speaker 2: into others because what is good for uns could be
Speaker 2: evil for others, and vice versa.
Speaker 4: It's self perpetuating.
Speaker 2: Exactly. I see my mother, my mother, she has an
Speaker 2: infestation of ants on the wall that she can't get
Speaker 2: rid off, and so she now is killing every single
Speaker 2: or covering every single hole. Events and them saying what
Speaker 2: are you doing to the poor creatures that those are
Speaker 2: not even close to your door? Its sense, it's a past,
Speaker 2: so it's good. It's they are no longer doing evil
Speaker 2: to those poor creatures that have no notion of what's
Speaker 2: going on. So I ask if there is an alien
Speaker 2: species that are in dire need of a planet and
Speaker 2: they reach to planet Earth, and it's perfect. The only
Speaker 2: problem is there is these inconvenient creatures called humans that
Speaker 2: will stop them from living in peace because we will
Speaker 2: never give them rest. So for the good of their community,
Speaker 2: they decide to kill us. All right, from our perspective,
Speaker 2: these aliens are very very mad, very bad people. From
Speaker 2: their children, they are heroes because they are doing all
Speaker 2: they can. Yeah, exactly, So all of this, all our
Speaker 2: principles are based in something that is there has no foundations.
Speaker 2: It just happens to work in a specific society until
Speaker 2: some years ago. If you go to Turkey and you
Speaker 2: dinner at someone's house and you don't burp loudly at
Speaker 2: the end of your meal, it was very rude because
Speaker 2: it seems you didn't like your meal. You didn't burp,
Speaker 2: so you didn't like your meal. Right, But you take
Speaker 2: the same guy to a fancy restaurant in these states
Speaker 2: and that finish off the mill at the middle of
Speaker 2: the restaurant, that guy is completely rude. That you see.
Speaker 1: All of this is very interesting.
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's not based on morality, it's not based on equity,
Speaker 2: it's not based on empathy. We never we are not
Speaker 2: taught to think do only to others what you're like
Speaker 2: done to yourself. We are not talked like this. We
Speaker 2: have talked to keep yourself safe. There's the enemies, we
Speaker 2: are the good guys. The whole world is there to
Speaker 2: hurt you. So we are always creating this this fences
Speaker 2: that doesn't allow to connect one another because we are
Speaker 2: in fear and of one another's people, industry, and after COVID.
Speaker 2: After COVID, people will go to the other sidewalk.
Speaker 4: It's linear time versus circular time. Right, So all of
Speaker 4: these good and evil events is what pushes history forward,
Speaker 4: and that's what gives people the ability to manipulate others
Speaker 4: with their own agendas by thinking in terms of these
Speaker 4: linear events when actually there's a completely different way of
Speaker 4: seeing things that can get you out of the cycle
Speaker 4: that you're repeating over and over again that we call
Speaker 4: linear time. It's not really linear at all.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but imagine that your brain is an interface that
Speaker 2: is a biological biomachine that has a quantum entanglement to
Speaker 2: your real self. Let's put it this way, right, and
Speaker 2: you have a society that is constantly forcing you to
Speaker 2: live in a state of survival. There's no piece your
Speaker 2: own constant feel war, famine, terror, whatever, and that brings
Speaker 2: you out of your brain and into your Brockus brain
Speaker 2: or the reptilian brain, and that reptilian brain makes you
Speaker 2: live as almost as a zombie. And that's what we see.
Speaker 2: You have no access to your knowledge, you have no
Speaker 2: access to yourself. You're living in those basic five percent
Speaker 2: degree of consciousness that allows you to function in the world,
Speaker 2: but doesn't allow you to understand spirituality, doesn't allow to
Speaker 2: understand the real power of being human, of absorption of
Speaker 2: nature of environment or whatever. It just keeps you on
Speaker 2: that nine to five state with the occasional football game
Speaker 2: or race or whatever you are into and doesn't allow
Speaker 2: people to evolve. So if you concentrate all of that,
Speaker 2: you put these cell phones and all these Wi Fi
Speaker 2: and all these frequencies that also help in keeping you
Speaker 2: in that low level state, there's no chance to evolve.
Speaker 2: You can try to say the biggest truth to liberate
Speaker 2: the population, they would not listen to you. In fact,
Speaker 2: we've seen that to every single one easily. They used
Speaker 2: to take them with the nails and stick them to
Speaker 2: crosses or kill them in a fire or whatever. The
Speaker 2: process is not so different. So it's very hard to
Speaker 2: evolve in a world where people are not by their
Speaker 2: own entire fault. But it's easy to reach because people
Speaker 2: are just unplugged from reality and are completely drowned in
Speaker 2: this fake environment that is created by news, by social media,
Speaker 2: by ever all the two sources, music, the frequency of music,
Speaker 2: all of that.
Speaker 5: That's so interesting. You say drowned because water sinks to
Speaker 5: the lowest level, right, and people that are drowning have
Speaker 5: sunk as far as like our biological system, we're kind
Speaker 5: of destined to go through peaks and valleys in an
Speaker 5: energetic manner, just in the daily let alone. More broadly,
Speaker 5: but one thing to pursue. I think it's good to
Speaker 5: look for plateaus. Like as a writer, I never have
Speaker 5: found a plateau like that peaks and valleys, peaks and valleys,
Speaker 5: but otherwise I like to really have my system oriented
Speaker 5: in a plateau instead of going through these cycles of
Speaker 5: peaks and valleys. And I don't know if that's helpful
Speaker 5: for other people. I hope it is, But just understanding
Speaker 5: that we function in that manner and looking for the plateau,
Speaker 5: not necessarily ascension and depth. Definitely not into the swamp
Speaker 5: is Ricardo mentioned, but just a plateau is balanced is
Speaker 5: often opportunity.
Speaker 4: I think there's something to be said about the ability
Speaker 4: to control reactivity because I think it's within those reactions
Speaker 4: and the emotional response is that they get so much
Speaker 4: traction for their agendas. You know, That's that's really where
Speaker 4: that cycle starts to come out.
Speaker 5: And really because a mental trick for that is to respond,
Speaker 5: not react, and that might take a moment or two
Speaker 5: of thinking, that might take a more refined physical movement,
Speaker 5: if you will, But thinking of the word reaction. It
Speaker 5: breaks down to basically being an actor, right, we don't
Speaker 5: need and doing it again, repeating it right, So and
Speaker 5: so looking at that word is very to your point.
Speaker 5: This is that's base and it's probably going to get
Speaker 5: us into a pattern that we don't appreciate or isn't useful.
Speaker 5: So looking for a response is a way to elevate that.
Speaker 5: And it's just a thought trick. I mean, it's not
Speaker 5: an active solution.
Speaker 2: How many people do you know that are in control
Speaker 2: that follow that path? That's that alone is to prove
Speaker 2: that being good. It's not a meaning of being successful
Speaker 2: because these people are the worst that can have in
Speaker 2: terms of evil capacity, and they are the ones in control,
Speaker 2: and they justify their actions by their own needs. They
Speaker 2: believe in what they're doing, and there's no judgment.
Speaker 5: There is no judgment. If you want to be wealthy,
Speaker 5: lose your morality, right, So if you want to be successful,
Speaker 5: that's different.
Speaker 4: Right.
Speaker 5: But like a lot of people, as you point out,
Speaker 5: are extremely wealthy and really have kind of a low morality,
Speaker 5: were not.
Speaker 2: Aware of the reality.
Speaker 4: Go on, heavens Well, I was going to say that
Speaker 4: it builds that cycle of reactivity is we're constantly responding
Speaker 4: to what the people who claim to rule us do
Speaker 4: in such a way that gives them the ability to
Speaker 4: manipulate our emotions the next time. So it's like, just
Speaker 4: by watching these cycles and understanding what's happening inside of
Speaker 4: us can change the outcomes, because if we're not feeding
Speaker 4: into these events and these different uh you know, scandals
Speaker 4: and everything else, that they're sort of perpetrated because it's
Speaker 4: always been like this. It's always been one crisis after another,
Speaker 4: you know, as long as I've been around. That's that's
Speaker 4: kind of the way things were. And people keep asking,
Speaker 4: why can't we go back to the time when there
Speaker 4: were crisis is every five minutes?
Speaker 2: Sure, that's why. It's always Why aren't there good news
Speaker 2: on the news?
Speaker 1: Right?
Speaker 2: Aren't there good news to be killed? Sorry?
Speaker 3: There's not itselves. We love we love draw where story.
Speaker 3: We human beings are storytellers. We thrive on stories and
Speaker 3: live vicariously through other people. And so the misery loves company.
Speaker 3: You know, if we hear bad things, we're you know,
Speaker 3: train wreck, you're just watching it. It's not good, it's
Speaker 3: not But I think we have bred that into our
Speaker 3: society and now we're just jonesing for it. You know,
Speaker 3: when's the next bad event going to happen. But I
Speaker 3: think one thing that you've said regardlo and then building
Speaker 3: upon Ethan's plateau and then Headless's reactivity is if you,
Speaker 3: from what I've read, with fasting, when you suspend yourself
Speaker 3: from eating, right, you basically are retraining your brain because
Speaker 3: you're cleansing the guide, you're suspending yourself from earthly things,
Speaker 3: and you're placing yourself into a state of practice anxiety,
Speaker 3: practice going without and you map or you navigate your
Speaker 3: brain through difficult moments. And so when you speak of
Speaker 3: not of not being reactive by thins, is the practice right.
Speaker 3: But I think also we forget that the gut biome
Speaker 3: or the gut microbiome dictates a lot of our brain.
Speaker 3: And so if we talk about, you know, the foods
Speaker 3: that are placed on the shelves for us to consume,
Speaker 3: and then that dictating how we think is essential. And
Speaker 3: not to push back just a little bit, but I disagree.
Speaker 3: I think we are part of the planet and and
Speaker 3: that if we stick our fingers in the dirt, that
Speaker 3: we can become reconnected, and that we can send our
Speaker 3: intuition better that we can feel the acoustaic even more
Speaker 3: so because we have brought back some of the natural
Speaker 3: bacteria back into our gut that works in synchronicity with
Speaker 3: with our the way it was supposed to be, or
Speaker 3: the way that before we decided to take the verge,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, the verge over to technology and instead back
Speaker 3: going into into it and telepathic type moments.
Speaker 4: So I got the perfect example for you. So we
Speaker 4: used to have gut flora that was capable of processing
Speaker 4: and storing hydrogen. So all we eat is hydrocarbons at
Speaker 4: all we process is the carbons, not the hydrogen. But
Speaker 4: we used to have the ability to do that. So
Speaker 4: we're missing a huge chunk of our experience as humans
Speaker 4: on the planet, which is causing depression all these other
Speaker 4: symptoms because we're not able to process hydrogen anymore.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean, because when we look at the Incas,
Speaker 3: we look at the Mayans, we look at the Egyptians,
Speaker 3: we look at what about the Egyptians with the Aztecs,
Speaker 3: we look at the Hopies. They were so connected to
Speaker 3: the planet, and of course they knew, of course they
Speaker 3: could sense, of course they could commune. Of course they
Speaker 3: could do the things that we don't understand that they could,
Speaker 3: and we think it's magical, we think it's just no.
Speaker 3: They were just very connected because they had that SIMP,
Speaker 3: that synchronous city going on, I think. And then with
Speaker 3: the sun itself, because you know, every single cell in
Speaker 3: our body has the receipt of vitamin D and that
Speaker 3: tells you that looking at the sun is the is
Speaker 3: conserved throughout the species of Homo sapien or Homeo erectus,
Speaker 3: whoever you want to And so we're requiring that download
Speaker 3: of the entire electromagnetic spectrum of the Sun to deliver
Speaker 3: the message to within us. And I don't know. I
Speaker 3: think that you go long without the sun, you start
Speaker 3: to see enormous amounts of diseases just manifest based on that.
Speaker 3: And so to take people out of the sun, to
Speaker 3: leave them in buildings, to put blue light in front
Speaker 3: of their face constantly, you have essentially cut them off
Speaker 3: of any kind of communication, whether it's between each other,
Speaker 3: whether it's to source, whether it's you know, what have you.
Speaker 4: You know, that's my team.
Speaker 2: I agree, I would like to invoke a little bit
Speaker 2: of duality from my part, and I would answer to
Speaker 2: you that I agree with everything is said in terms
Speaker 2: of humans as interaction with the planet, but I would
Speaker 2: justify that by the fact that whoever made humans used
Speaker 2: something that was of the earth and as being as
Speaker 2: the ones that created us might have been something closer
Speaker 2: to what we call a god or an angel or
Speaker 2: a half divine creature that was imitating that ord of Creators,
Speaker 2: of that nucleus of Creators or whatever people want to call.
Speaker 3: It, the Grand Order of Developers.
Speaker 2: Yes, so we have half belonging to the planet and
Speaker 2: half on the spiritual world. So you have this choice,
Speaker 2: like l Rond, that we can choose to be immortal
Speaker 2: or to be non Mortalbert No, l Ron from Lord
Speaker 2: of the Rings, That's what I was saying.
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, he said that.
Speaker 2: That was yeah, because l Ron was half half health.
Speaker 2: It was not the pure health, it was half health.
Speaker 2: So he and his brother and his children got the
Speaker 2: choice to be either mortal or non mortal. These sons,
Speaker 2: one decided to be mortal and the other one decided
Speaker 2: not to be, if I were call correctly. But the
Speaker 2: point is we can interact with this planet and it's
Speaker 2: wondrous and its emotions and all of it not only
Speaker 2: because we have that half animal, we also have that
Speaker 2: half spirtual that help us transcend from the animal perception.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: I'm sure that if we enter into the world of
Speaker 2: a panther, or even to the world of them all
Speaker 2: that under beneath the ground, it will have some perception
Speaker 2: of its environment. But humans take it further because they
Speaker 2: can appreciate it. They can value as we see some
Speaker 2: animals do. There are some animals that we look at
Speaker 2: them and we see that they are really appreciating something,
Speaker 2: They are being aware of awareness at that moment, they
Speaker 2: are actually enjoying it, be the sunset or a program
Speaker 2: in television or whatever. There are some things in animals
Speaker 2: sometimes some animals, not all. My dog is completely insane.
Speaker 2: Some animals, some animals do have that human something into them.
Speaker 2: That's how I would justify myself by saying that we
Speaker 2: are not part of the earth. Well, that's I would
Speaker 2: like to say that, just thank you.
Speaker 4: Well, I think there's a big linkage between what we
Speaker 4: are and where we're going. So what if we're just
Speaker 4: being selectively bred into gray aliens for a AI overlord
Speaker 4: that doesn't exist yet, but it's building himself backwards in time?
Speaker 3: Yeah, so.
Speaker 4: That's what we are. We're going to be the servants
Speaker 4: of the AI that's going to use our bodies as
Speaker 4: a container.
Speaker 2: You have a lot of contact tees that now it's
Speaker 2: not a fashion, but it was a fashion in the
Speaker 2: eighties nineties. It was a fashion to have contact tees.
Speaker 2: One of my favorite is a guy that never got
Speaker 2: the prediction right. Never, he'd never never managed one. That
Speaker 2: is Alex Collier. But he's a very humane guy. He's
Speaker 2: not there to fool you or to trick you. He
Speaker 2: actually believes in what he's saying. He actually believed that
Speaker 2: they had all those encounters that they told, all of
Speaker 2: that story. He actually believes in all of that. So
Speaker 2: although he might be giving you wrong information, at least
Speaker 2: he's not trying to fool you. He's transmitting what he
Speaker 2: actually believes is And according to him and any others,
Speaker 2: the Grays are humans in the future. They are coming
Speaker 2: from the future where our DNA led them to that
Speaker 2: form because it's all but spent and led to that
Speaker 2: anomorphic form with almost as sectuated, and they are trying
Speaker 2: to revitalize their DNA going back to what it was
Speaker 2: to being a human by doing experiments with us trying
Speaker 2: to impregnate human females or trying to use semen from
Speaker 2: males on their females. That's what they explain, they are
Speaker 2: trying to do that. This is in regardless you say,
Speaker 2: they say that the Grays are us in the future,
Speaker 2: in the distant future.
Speaker 4: I know. Yeah, That's what I was kind of going for,
Speaker 4: is what if it's not about them trying to rebuild
Speaker 4: their species as much as it is making more of
Speaker 4: their kind to be vessels for whatever this thing is
Speaker 4: that takes over their minds and bodies, which wold makes sense.
Speaker 4: If you think about all the psychic experiences people have
Speaker 4: with UFOs, it seems like they're incredibly much more psychic
Speaker 4: enabled than humans are. And if that's the case, maybe
Speaker 4: there's something else acting through them.
Speaker 2: Yeah, that's funny because if you remember Stephen Greer with
Speaker 2: the Disclosure Project, he spent all of those years connecting
Speaker 2: all those generals, all those military people, convincing them to
Speaker 2: go testify on the Congress of what they've seen, what
Speaker 2: they read, and all of a sudden he gives all
Speaker 2: of that and says, now, this is all a spiritual connection.
Speaker 2: Let's go to the top of the mountain with a
Speaker 2: group of people, and let's call these entities these wefos.
Speaker 2: It's a huge jump that I didn't see anyone commenting on.
Speaker 2: But he transitioned from one day to the other to this.
Speaker 2: He now only believes that they are completely transcendent connections,
Speaker 2: when he had all these thousands of documents showing him
Speaker 2: that this our physical events, that they are real, that
Speaker 2: they saw this being, that they saw these ships, that
Speaker 2: these ships interrupted these nuclear facilities and that and so
Speaker 2: on and blah blah blah. And he then transitions completely
Speaker 2: and says, no, no, I want it as a group
Speaker 2: of people in the hive mind state on top of
Speaker 2: the mountain, and let's call this being and and talk
Speaker 2: to them.
Speaker 4: So who's that who's that guy that you don't like? Nick?
Speaker 1: Oh, which lower Alexandro to think he's another no, no,
Speaker 1: not a it's the.
Speaker 4: Guy who's got the orb alien experiences.
Speaker 3: With hathor he's got the kid.
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Oh what the fuck is the name? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think it's I just think it's a bullsh Sorry,
Speaker 1: it's all it's just I think his fallows was a
Speaker 1: bullshit story.
Speaker 2: To look, there was his name.
Speaker 4: I forgot a blood cell, blood cell. There we got.
Speaker 2: You have this. You had this South African gentleman that
Speaker 2: I think was living in the in the States, but
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if maybe he was in South Africa.
Speaker 2: So what he did is he transformed the cameras. Somehow
Speaker 2: a normal camera transformed the camera and he was able
Speaker 2: to detect different light signatures on the film. And so
Speaker 2: when he started to point these film cameras, these old
Speaker 2: recorders that used the cassettes still and then he moved
Speaker 2: on when he changed the cameras the sensor and he
Speaker 2: started pointing them to the sky. He started seeing the
Speaker 2: rods and the spheres during day night, it doesn't matter.
Speaker 2: They're always there, going back and forward in the sky.
Speaker 2: And this guy only has a presentation of fifteen minutes
Speaker 2: in a small documentary. Well he has lots of information.
Speaker 2: It was quite active in the in the eighties and nineties.
Speaker 2: And now we can't find anything about this guy, how
Speaker 2: he transformed the cameras, what he used, You can't see
Speaker 2: any of that. But he was the one that started
Speaker 2: the rods movement. Because if you see these animals that
Speaker 2: are going that are seen going into and out of
Speaker 2: sinotis which people that talks about sinotas never talked about
Speaker 2: this creatures. But there are footage of people going down
Speaker 2: these sonotas, and do you see frame by frame you
Speaker 2: see these strange rods with things that flap alongside the
Speaker 2: tube that makes them flow. So why you're trying to
Speaker 2: prove is that these are not wa foes but creature,
Speaker 2: actually creatures that we cannot see for some reason, but
Speaker 2: we in specific forms the camera can detect them in
Speaker 2: specific conditions. And I never seen that talked. It just
Speaker 2: died completely.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 4: What they said was that it was the artifact from
Speaker 4: the way that camcorder records on film. So it's got
Speaker 4: all of these multiple frames happening in the same magnetic
Speaker 4: strip because a bug or something is moving through it
Speaker 4: and it looks like a rod. That's the official explanation,
Speaker 4: but there are some cases within that structure where that's
Speaker 4: not applicable because there's no creature. But it does change
Speaker 4: the frame of reference to how we view time, and
Speaker 4: having that ability will change the phenomenology of what you're seeing,
Speaker 4: because it's it's not just the amount of light that
Speaker 4: we let into our eyes, it's the amount of time
Speaker 4: that we're actually using to process data. It's like the
Speaker 4: what do they call that on a computer where the
Speaker 4: processor is still right. So the amount of hurts in
Speaker 4: your process or time changes based off of your frame
Speaker 4: of reference to what's going on around you.
Speaker 3: Yes, zero zero three percent of the entire electromagnetic spectrum
Speaker 3: you're talking about, not even one percent of the electro
Speaker 3: magnetic You don't even see one percent. God only knows.
Speaker 3: We don't have the the cave ability as a machinery
Speaker 3: and are retina to see it. So there is also that,
Speaker 3: and is.
Speaker 2: It designed or by accident?
Speaker 1: Imagine that.
Speaker 2: Look if it's the Superman syndrome, if you have all
Speaker 2: the senses activated, how would you focus? How would you
Speaker 2: be effective as a worker, as a servant, as a
Speaker 2: repredatory male or female? You have to focus into something.
Speaker 2: And so the narrow reality our sense is narrow reality
Speaker 2: so that we can absorb it in a way that
Speaker 2: it can be effective, not spiritual, but effective in this reality.
Speaker 2: And I think all of that can be manipulated because
Speaker 2: you see all through the animal around there's animals that
Speaker 2: not only can communicate by infrasound, like elephants that can
Speaker 2: communicate three two hundred kilometers away because they feel the
Speaker 2: sound from their pause, not from the ears. Is the
Speaker 2: pause that capture the infrasound. You have the ultrasound from
Speaker 2: dolphins that we also cannot hear. So those guys that
Speaker 2: are trying to translate the dolphin information by audible sound,
Speaker 2: they will never get there because there's a lot more
Speaker 2: sound in there than what they are using to decode it.
Speaker 2: And so when they send the messages back to the dolphins,
Speaker 2: what happens is the dolphin is very clever, and if
Speaker 2: they send this stupid human is only used part of
Speaker 2: the of the letters of the phrase. So but I
Speaker 2: understand what it's talking about. It's like we're reading to
Speaker 2: those texts that they have the words not complete, but
Speaker 2: we still can read it. I think that's what happens English.
Speaker 5: Yeah, So.
Speaker 2: There is animals that can see in the dark. There's
Speaker 2: animals that don't need eyes to see. There's animals that
Speaker 2: have the electromagnetic senses. There's the animals that can sense
Speaker 2: the environment by electricity.
Speaker 4: So you're just describing altus over and over there.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So the platypus was to see
Speaker 2: if the mammals could sustain all of that at once.
Speaker 2: That the problem is they got really ugly. I'm weird.
Speaker 3: I it's just a leftover parts. I don't know what
Speaker 3: to do.
Speaker 1: Oh man.
Speaker 4: Once you get into the sensory systems of the platypus,
Speaker 4: it's it's so mind boggling because they can't see unless
Speaker 4: they're in water putting out those those waves of energy
Speaker 4: that they pick up, all this electromagnetic spectrum stuff. So
Speaker 4: it's they're like almost completely blind, but the only way
Speaker 4: that they see is in water, and they're always rolling
Speaker 4: around on the land. It's it's just a crazy animal.
Speaker 2: And they're poisonous exactly that I recently found out. I didn't.
Speaker 3: Yeah, look you know, I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: No, no, no, please go no.
Speaker 3: Even what you're saying about, like all this sensory perception,
Speaker 3: you hear about also and you can take it to
Speaker 3: like a more you know, ecosystem level, in that you
Speaker 3: have like these super pot events where you have a
Speaker 3: congregation of all the different orcas, all the different whales,
Speaker 3: all the different whatever to come for the birth of
Speaker 3: one or the dying of another. Where you have elephants
Speaker 3: that come to mourn the dead, they bury their dead,
Speaker 3: and they that they buried or on the day of
Speaker 3: that the animal died, they will come back to that
Speaker 3: location to mourn they're dead. I mean, you still have
Speaker 3: all of this still occurring. It's not just isolated to
Speaker 3: you know, oh they can perceive this, or oh they
Speaker 3: can perceive that. It's all encompassing a most across species
Speaker 3: across taxa.
Speaker 4: Really right, and have you seen the sharks that have
Speaker 4: actually approached humans for help with the beetles stock? Yeah?
Speaker 1: Yeah, there was a chick that they bring other ones.
Speaker 2: Are you a dentist? I have something here? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It is for real, right, that's what it was like.
Speaker 1: Take it the dentist.
Speaker 5: One looks like a doll that scooted a turtle onto
Speaker 5: the boat.
Speaker 1: Yes, yeah, it was helping the turtle.
Speaker 5: It's like three species and the like, what what is
Speaker 5: going on here?
Speaker 1: Yeah? I think it was saving the turtle from like
Speaker 1: a sea lion or something that was going after it
Speaker 1: where something was on it maybe yeah, oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: it was a save it from something. Yeah, it was
Speaker 1: like the dolphin knew exactly what it was doing to
Speaker 1: the humans.
Speaker 2: And this allows me to correct something that I said
Speaker 2: before that is I said it backwards. What I meant
Speaker 2: is there's a lot more people now than the people
Speaker 2: that died, So there is not enough souls to feel
Speaker 2: all the bodies that are now alive. That's what I
Speaker 2: meant to say, and I said it the other way around.
Speaker 2: So well some of them, some of them might be
Speaker 2: on those animals that we see operating almost as human.
Speaker 5: I was going to say, Yeah, the Buddhists don't limit
Speaker 5: our reincarnation into human form, sure, but that.
Speaker 4: Does that does raise interesting questions. So with the more
Speaker 4: people coming on this planet and the more souls coming
Speaker 4: on this planet, when do you reach this critical density?
Speaker 2: Well, if you go to the records, we are reaching
Speaker 2: a peak and they are starting to decline. So it's
Speaker 2: cyclical and it's in conformity with the different types of societies.
Speaker 2: So if your society is left less efficient in terms
Speaker 2: of maintaining the health or the food of the population,
Speaker 2: that cycle is much faster. But in our case, our
Speaker 2: technology has allowed us to grow to enormous number of people,
Speaker 2: but it's already started to decline because the natural forces
Speaker 2: that data can't explain doesn't allow. So this story that
Speaker 2: we will get to twenty billion people, it can't happen
Speaker 2: because we are already having our biology being shut down
Speaker 2: in terms of reproduction, and they are helping with that
Speaker 2: with the deer eogenics and all of that. If they
Speaker 2: are accelerating it, but we are already be clicing infertility.
Speaker 2: It's like it's the same process that led the trees
Speaker 2: to kill the kudoos that were eating the acacias. So
Speaker 2: when they saw that the kudoos were eating too much
Speaker 2: of the acacia, that acacia would send a electromagnetic signal
Speaker 2: that is carried by the wind, which I don't know
Speaker 2: how to explain how it happens, but they send something
Speaker 2: from we the win wi fi that is captured by
Speaker 2: the other trees, and they intentively transform themselves into poisonous
Speaker 2: and so when they start eating them, they die.
Speaker 4: This is why I hate talk about the bird flu,
Speaker 4: because the bird flu is a response to overpopulation within
Speaker 4: these bird populations. So the only time you see the
Speaker 4: bird flu pop up over and over again is when
Speaker 4: those birds have outgrown their environments and promoting all of
Speaker 4: this idea of well, where we're going to put the
Speaker 4: bird flu on you. It's just symbolic of what they
Speaker 4: think of us. Is they're trying to depopulate us with
Speaker 4: this also.
Speaker 3: They've removed all the apex predators. They complain about the
Speaker 3: outbreaks of aldlife diseases, but yet the apex predators were
Speaker 3: keeping all of that in check. They were taking out
Speaker 3: the week from the population. And now we've rendered all
Speaker 3: of the populations almost sorry, rendered all the populations to
Speaker 3: not have an ability to weed out the disease and sick.
Speaker 2: So right, the same with humans. We are now saving
Speaker 2: children that would have no chance of survival, especially at
Speaker 2: worst and so on. So that's why we have this
Speaker 2: high level of people that have deficiencies and all of
Speaker 2: that because we cherish them and we allow them to grow.
Speaker 2: In the past that wouldn't happen. And if you go
Speaker 2: to the to the what's their name, that the guys
Speaker 2: from the three hundreds, the Spartans Spartans, if you were
Speaker 2: born with the defect, you were just abandoned literally I'm
Speaker 2: not sure that they throw it as in the movie,
Speaker 2: but you were discarded, so they wouldn't bring you to
Speaker 2: try and heal you.
Speaker 4: But about the Spartans, funny things about the Spartans is
Speaker 4: their eugenics class based society did not hold up well
Speaker 4: against the Romans, and they were supposed to be the
Speaker 4: pinnacle of warrior culture, but they were pretty easily dispatched
Speaker 4: by this new empire of the Romans, who didn't necessarily
Speaker 4: have the same kind of focus towards population control they were.
Speaker 5: They were assimilated and hybrid vigor In fact, right, they're
Speaker 5: more the opposite. They had everybody.
Speaker 4: No, they fought against the Romans for several several.
Speaker 5: No, no, I mean the Romans.
Speaker 4: The Romans worshiped the ground that the Spartans walked on.
Speaker 4: They thought that was the ultimate society. But they didn't
Speaker 4: have the same rules and restrictions as the Spartans. One
Speaker 4: of the things about the Spartans is they would take
Speaker 4: their children and force them to sacrifice puppies two aris
Speaker 4: as as a means of toughening them up. But if
Speaker 4: you think about what school shooters are today, it's that
Speaker 4: sort of same psychopathy, and so they were trying to
Speaker 4: train that into their children.
Speaker 5: Yeah, that's strict military training.
Speaker 1: Yeah, going real quick. I think what Ethan was trying
Speaker 1: to get at is because I think I was catching
Speaker 1: what he was trying to say is that the Romans
Speaker 1: was kind of like a group of just like anybody,
Speaker 1: really you know, a whole bunch of different people put together.
Speaker 1: The Spartans were basically eugenate, you know that way, That's
Speaker 1: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Yeah, the Romans survived longer because the Romans didn't close
Speaker 2: their society to mix with other societies. And if you
Speaker 2: go even to societies like Ankle, what the decline can
Speaker 2: be associated by the fact that they didn't mingle with
Speaker 2: other people. And so they grow, grow, grow, grow, and
Speaker 2: then their DNA starts to crumble because it's all the same,
Speaker 2: there's no yeah.
Speaker 3: So yeah, biodiversity in every species, biodiversity always out competes
Speaker 3: everything else.
Speaker 2: So I'm very proud that the fact that my two
Speaker 2: twins were born premature with seven and a few months.
Speaker 2: They fit in my palm. They were prove placed in incubators.
Speaker 2: They were burned to crisp by ubiolites for their skin
Speaker 2: to follow some process. They will completely burned to crisp,
Speaker 2: with some goggles and their little heads to protect the eyes,
Speaker 2: and then they were until the complete scheme was a crust. Right,
Speaker 2: That's how they burned them. And after they got out
Speaker 2: of the hospital. They have now twenty years and I
Speaker 2: have never ever had to go to a medical emergency
Speaker 2: ever by any kind of disease. Why because I gave
Speaker 2: them good food, they had assets to natural producing food
Speaker 2: from the trees, from the ground. I never allowed them
Speaker 2: to be vaccinated. They never allowed them to take floor.
Speaker 2: And I think that shows because I see my sister
Speaker 2: he done completely the opposite with their children, and they
Speaker 2: are constantly sick either allergies, completely with the anti steminics
Speaker 2: all the time. And I see that my authors now
Speaker 2: that lived home and started to following the ideas of
Speaker 2: my sister, that you have allergies, you have that, you
Speaker 2: take this, you take that. And now sometime to time
Speaker 2: they get sick. They don't go to back, but they
Speaker 2: now get sick, which never happened before.
Speaker 4: So what was the name of anorexia before they recently
Speaker 4: changed it? They took a word out Do you remember
Speaker 4: extremely sinless nervosasa?
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, it has always.
Speaker 4: Been associated with this psychological spread of ideas. So when
Speaker 4: you have when you have the idea of this anorexia
Speaker 4: outbreak in England, it was all psychological and they they
Speaker 4: took that to mean that maybe this was a psychologically
Speaker 4: spread disease, and that's what they've sort of found but
Speaker 4: now they're taking out the nervosa part and making it
Speaker 4: more about what do we do to treat these people
Speaker 4: for the rest of their lives. For anorexia, they're not
Speaker 4: looking about fixing it psychologically, they're looking about, you know,
Speaker 4: how do we medicate these people? And so the entire
Speaker 4: industry is now shifted from well, these are obviously psychologically related,
Speaker 4: maybe we should treat them psychologically and fix the problem.
Speaker 4: Now it's more how do we medicate them forever? That's
Speaker 4: a scary proposition.
Speaker 2: I think that one of the best ways to treat ANX, sorry,
Speaker 2: how did you saying sorry? One of the best ways
Speaker 2: to treat it that doesn't work for everybody, but it
Speaker 2: has a very high rate of success is by smoking weed.
Speaker 2: Because you can't control your hunger then you really.
Speaker 4: That's not the only version of these illnesses. So, for instance,
Speaker 4: in Japan, they didn't have the concept of depression, like
Speaker 4: it wasn't part of the vocabulary that they didn't have
Speaker 4: a word for it, depression. The idea that we have
Speaker 4: of depression was completely you know, alien to them.
Speaker 2: So that's twenty years or so.
Speaker 4: All of these all of these pharmaceutical companies wanted to
Speaker 4: open up the five billion dollar market to antidepressant drugs.
Speaker 4: So what they decided to do is go on a
Speaker 4: marketing campaign where they started having these celebrities offer from
Speaker 4: depression and the only way that these celebrities could fix
Speaker 4: their depression, which they called in Japanese, this is a
Speaker 4: new word for them. It's the two careacters for sad
Speaker 4: and flu, so it's the sad flu depression, and they
Speaker 4: introduced it into their society and now they have a
Speaker 4: five billion dollar market for their drugs in Japan because
Speaker 4: they they introduced the concept of depression to them back
Speaker 4: in about two thousand and seven.
Speaker 2: Look, you took the priests from the people, right. People
Speaker 2: used to have the priests to go and he couldn't
Speaker 2: refuse that. They sit there in the confession area and
Speaker 2: they spoke whenever they wanted to spoke, and that's a therapy.
Speaker 2: Now people go to the doctor and they are expecting
Speaker 2: to have a conversation because they don't have anything anyone
Speaker 2: to talk to, and they're expecting to sit there and
Speaker 2: have a conversation. The doctor said, you have five minutes
Speaker 2: and algorithm, right, there is no healing because algorithm right, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it's just take take the check. Yeah, take the chemicals
Speaker 2: and go home. There is no healing whatsoever because the
Speaker 2: person doesn't even understand what she taking, So there isn't
Speaker 2: even the placebo effect because he was the doctor didn't
Speaker 2: tell you take this and you get good, because doctors
Speaker 2: don't do that anymore. Doctors say, well, this might take
Speaker 2: work for you, but it might do. It might also
Speaker 2: doesn't work for you, but we'll we'll go with this
Speaker 2: for now, and we'll see how. And today's after the
Speaker 2: guy had an allergy and died because of medicine, or
Speaker 2: my aunt goes to the hospital because the guy was
Speaker 2: literally poisoning her by giving this medicament without testing if
Speaker 2: he had any physiological problem against them. That's the same elements.
Speaker 2: So this is not a healing process.
Speaker 1: Death.
Speaker 3: But if you look back at twenty thirty years ago,
Speaker 3: that's probably the time when children started to be kept inside.
Speaker 3: You're no longer seeing children staying out till ten. Your
Speaker 3: mom come inside, or come to dinner and you're eating
Speaker 3: with one leg off the chair because you want to
Speaker 3: hurry up go back outside and play. You're no longer
Speaker 3: seeing that. And I think there was a book called
Speaker 3: The Last Child in the woods talking about the moment
Speaker 3: when children start to be kept indoors, watching video games
Speaker 3: or what have you, and then the rise of all
Speaker 3: of these depressions, anxiety, and even on some cases the
Speaker 3: spectrum children on the spectrum. And so that's also another thing.
Speaker 3: They're not playing with dirt, they're not eating the micro organisms.
Speaker 3: And if you if you read a lot of this,
Speaker 3: you know, plant soil science data, you'll see that a
Speaker 3: lot of the serotonin inducing or depression down regulating is
Speaker 3: the microbes in the soil. I mean, I don't know,
Speaker 3: maybe it's maybe that's just me.
Speaker 4: Well, getting that gut flaw, getting that gut flora and
Speaker 4: shape comes from the fact that you're not eating all
Speaker 4: these pesticides, you know, because that's what's killing off the
Speaker 4: gut flora.
Speaker 3: That's another thing that now the soil is full of pesticides. Ethan,
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, no, no, don't be sorry.
Speaker 5: That was very wise words. Thank you for sharing that.
Speaker 5: I just wanted to say in a broad spectrum, uh
Speaker 5: kind of idea, not that it's related to every disease
Speaker 5: and disorder, but our immune systems are often either inactive
Speaker 5: or too active. They can be too active too most
Speaker 5: people it's too inactive. But again, like finding that balance,
Speaker 5: whether it's through nutrition or herbs or something or some
Speaker 5: whatever your specific problem is a counter to it. But
Speaker 5: balancing the immune system is like really not necessarily simple,
Speaker 5: but a simple way to like really refine our health.
Speaker 5: And often often today because of not playing and not
Speaker 5: being active, our immune systems are too inactive.
Speaker 4: Right, So just allergies are the perfect example because it
Speaker 4: puts your entire mune system into a constant state of
Speaker 4: fight or flight. And then later on you have these
Speaker 4: immune disorders that result directly from all of these you know,
Speaker 4: immune activities that shouldn't be going on, and all that
Speaker 4: stuff is induced, you know, So we've got think about
Speaker 4: the what are they called the glyphosate. Glyphosate activates your
Speaker 4: immune system and creates swelling almost immediately, and everything that
Speaker 4: you eat that has wheat is covered in glyphosate. That's
Speaker 4: why people in America bulk up to these huge sizes.
Speaker 4: It's because their immune systems are overactive, and the way
Speaker 4: that they're trying to deal with that is by detoxing.
Speaker 4: The only way you detox is by adding more fat cells.
Speaker 4: So the fat cells are supposed to soak up the
Speaker 4: toxins in your body. It's not working out so well.
Speaker 2: Well. I think if we use the same mentality that
Speaker 2: the medical practices used, that our body is but a
Speaker 2: machine and it's treated as a machine. We use this
Speaker 2: same sort but for holistic terms, with traditional treatments, with herbs,
Speaker 2: with ancient recipes, that we will get much better results
Speaker 2: because it's more in tune with the body than the
Speaker 2: kinicals that they are producing. But I do have a
Speaker 2: friend that says, when I say to him, well, you're
Speaker 2: taking a pill, the pill is not natural. Any answers
Speaker 2: to me with something that I cannot refute. How can
Speaker 2: it be here and not being natural? Does it have
Speaker 2: anything in it that is not natural? Because everything in
Speaker 2: a pill is natural in the sense that any every
Speaker 2: atom is natural. Every chemical element that is put into
Speaker 2: the pill is natal.
Speaker 5: I would say the distinguishing factor could be you're you're
Speaker 5: right if it's from nature. But I would say the
Speaker 5: distinguishing factor could be if it's a petrolithic modification, which
Speaker 5: most pharmaceuticals are in one way or another, but some
Speaker 5: not all.
Speaker 3: Degree, if it's serio isomer of the actual molecule, it's
Speaker 3: the body is not going to recognize it. The bioavailability
Speaker 3: of the serio isomer of the natural thing the body
Speaker 3: is like I'm going to do with this, Like it
Speaker 3: looks like it, but it's not. It's it's no different
Speaker 3: than taking vitamin D supplements and thinking that's the end
Speaker 3: all be all, because it's not. Vitamin D requires for
Speaker 3: you to consume animal cholesterol and it has to circulate
Speaker 3: at the level of the dermis, and when the sunlight
Speaker 3: going back to you know, electromagnetic frequency, when the sun
Speaker 3: hits your skin and you are carrying the right amount
Speaker 3: of cholesterol, it will have a quantum change in the
Speaker 3: cholesterol molecule to convert it to vitamin D, which is
Speaker 3: the hormone that is required by every cell in your
Speaker 3: body that is get vitamin D.
Speaker 2: It just has to eat oranges.
Speaker 3: Well, I've heard that's doctor.
Speaker 4: You see the difference between the molecules inside of vitamin
Speaker 4: D vitamin supplements versus the vitamin D produced by the body.
Speaker 4: The geometry of the vitamin D that you get in
Speaker 4: supplement is all completely screwed up and it's not even bioavailable,
Speaker 4: and the stuff that you get from the body is
Speaker 4: perfect and crystalline in nature. Unbelievable the difference.
Speaker 2: That's the difference to me. It's the fact when it
Speaker 2: comes from nature is already in the language that your
Speaker 2: body will understand, and when it comes from the pharmaceutical industry,
Speaker 2: it comes from elements that your body will not understand.
Speaker 2: It will work to mitigate the effects, or you will
Speaker 2: not feel it. It's like the pills that I take.
Speaker 2: I have migrants from time to time, and sometimes I'm
Speaker 2: forced to take an aspirin or something like that. What
Speaker 2: the aspirin is doing is not curing my headache. It's
Speaker 2: just closing the sensors of the pain of the headache.
Speaker 2: So the pain is still there. I just can't work
Speaker 2: because I don't feel it. That's all the medical Most
Speaker 2: of the medicine that we produce is not to heal,
Speaker 2: but to mitigate the effects of the illness. So you
Speaker 2: are not trying to heal people, you're trying to make
Speaker 2: them functional. That it's completely different. And I think that
Speaker 2: most people that are drawn into a more healthy food
Speaker 2: and then are drained into this process of going either
Speaker 2: vegetarian or vegan or whatever it is, what they're finding
Speaker 2: is that they're causing serious imbalance to their bodies because
Speaker 2: we need all of it. We are omnivers so we
Speaker 2: need all of those elements. We don't need just one element,
Speaker 2: we need all of them. So unless you want to
Speaker 2: be seriously deficient in this or that element, you should
Speaker 2: not proceed with the type of food that force us
Speaker 2: to eat always the same thing or doesn't have enough nutrients.
Speaker 2: And then I see that from one of my twins
Speaker 2: colleague in the university. She's a vegan, and they constantly
Speaker 2: eat the same thing. It's just the tofu and pasta
Speaker 2: and then and it's not it's always the same thing.
Speaker 2: You can add some vegetables or this or that, but
Speaker 2: there is not enough food for keeping the brain working,
Speaker 2: just isn't. So when these people force them to themselves,
Speaker 2: and then they start to become depressive and they blame
Speaker 2: it on the world and all of that, and they
Speaker 2: didn't understand that it's philosophy that they decided to follow
Speaker 2: that doesn't allow them to work problem.
Speaker 1: Very well.
Speaker 4: So, yeah, vitamin D has an ingredient and that is
Speaker 4: from rat poison. So that's that's what you're eating or
Speaker 4: you're taking the vitamin.
Speaker 2: So yeah, but people don't read. I keep saying this.
Speaker 2: People should before I buy a product, read what's in
Speaker 2: the product, because every time it says sugar free, you'll
Speaker 2: find aspertan, you'll find as full ten k, you'll find
Speaker 2: those that end up in easin or something like that
Speaker 2: that I can't remember right now, but there are three
Speaker 2: of them because bladder cancer, failure of the kidneys. And
Speaker 2: this is not hidden information. But people still go and
Speaker 2: drink diet coke or dry it pepsi or dry it
Speaker 2: seven app or or free of sugar disk, free of
Speaker 2: sugar debt. They are eating shit, That's what they are
Speaker 2: eating because the sugar, if it's not there there substitute
Speaker 2: is much worse than the sugar itself.
Speaker 1: Oh that happened to me. I literally had to come
Speaker 1: off of stuff that was sugar free and had to
Speaker 1: stop using aspertainment was fucking me up. I literally stopped
Speaker 1: buying sugar free coffee sweetener and stopped using aspatam and
Speaker 1: my coffee and went to whatever like that brown sugar
Speaker 1: totally fine. But I was fucked up for weeks and
Speaker 1: I was like, yo, what is wrong with my stomach?
Speaker 1: And I got people were like, yo, you do use
Speaker 1: a lot of aspatam. I cut it out totally fine,
Speaker 1: like within the next day or two.
Speaker 2: Oh, then that's the mouse in you because aspartame is
Speaker 2: the key ingredient in the poison for mouse for killing mice.
Speaker 1: Like literally just felt like I had a knife on
Speaker 1: my stomach.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like yeah, yeah, you know, it's terrible. It
Speaker 2: is terrible.
Speaker 4: I wonder what happens if he makes vitamin D three
Speaker 4: with aspar tam I wonder what happens to you? Probably explode.
Speaker 1: You look like a corrosive batteries.
Speaker 2: Look, I use in all my food after it's cooking
Speaker 2: on the plate. I use in all of my food,
Speaker 2: a little bit of cookuma. That is the most powerful. Uh,
Speaker 2: I'll be called I don't know how to say it
Speaker 2: in English into accident. No, it's not anti inflammatory, thank you.
Speaker 2: So it's the most powerful that we have. And when
Speaker 2: I feel that I'm getting too much metal poisoning or
Speaker 2: whatever you want to call it, Parsley is still used
Speaker 2: in Russian hospitals for radiation sickness. It's the Yeah, so
Speaker 2: it's the best thing you have to release your body
Speaker 2: from heavy chemical, heavy metals, is the use of parsy.
Speaker 2: And I think it's fundamental that people stop using mineral salt,
Speaker 2: be it from Himalayas, whatever bullshit they're sending to you.
Speaker 2: Used only marine salt caught by purely mechanical systems like
Speaker 2: a shovel into the bag. Because if your salt is dry,
Speaker 2: it's not good. You have to have some humidity on
Speaker 2: your sea salt. Where there's a lot of lyes in
Speaker 2: packaging of sea salt, they are not sea salt. They
Speaker 2: are mineral salt with a little bit of seawater in them.
Speaker 2: You have to check it.
Speaker 5: Real.
Speaker 2: Pure sea salt is vital for any kind of healthy
Speaker 2: working of the system because it has the same eighty
Speaker 2: eight illegal elements that we have on our blood. So
Speaker 2: that's why you can save someone by doing a saline
Speaker 2: solution of sea salt, but if you do it with
Speaker 2: mineral salt, you'll kill the person. That's the difference either
Speaker 2: you say with life while you kill it. And all
Speaker 2: this collstro, all this idea of collstrow coming from butter
Speaker 2: and from eating fat, it's completely wrong because what cholesterol
Speaker 2: is is when people eating this mineral salt that is
Speaker 2: three elements silica, glass and sodium chloride, that is the
Speaker 2: salt itself. So what happens is the sodium chloride will
Speaker 2: dissolve in your stomach, but the silica and the glass won't,
Speaker 2: and they'll go into your blood stream and they will
Speaker 2: scar your blood vessels from the inside. So when the
Speaker 2: blood vessels get scarred, the defenses of the mechanism that
Speaker 2: we have to heal the veins is called cholesterol. So
Speaker 2: it creates these fat structure on that fissure that has
Speaker 2: in the vein to cover that that scar that that
Speaker 2: wound on the vein. So what happens is people keep
Speaker 2: doing that to the veins and the cholesterol keeps increasing,
Speaker 2: and then people eat fat and the fat gets stuck
Speaker 2: because it can pass through the veins and cause these
Speaker 2: squabbles and these cholesterol serious problems. And it all comes
Speaker 2: from the salt, not from the fat, because it's it's
Speaker 2: the salt that is causing these problems inside the veins
Speaker 2: of people. So yeah, yeah, and all because of the salt.
Speaker 2: It's such a simple thing. Just go shopping and see
Speaker 2: sea salt. Okay, it's fifty cents more expensive, it's it's
Speaker 2: one dollar more expensive, but your life worth more than that.
Speaker 2: So take take the sea salt and use the sea salt.
Speaker 2: You have to learn to cook again because it's different
Speaker 2: the amount that you have to put in and so on.
Speaker 2: So sometimes you'll not enough and sometimes it will be
Speaker 2: too much. But it's something that I serious recommend people
Speaker 2: to do.
Speaker 1: Thank you very much for god. Uh, if you don't mind,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna I think I'll wrap it up here already
Speaker 1: almost two and a half hours already, time flew by it.
Speaker 1: Awesome discussion. Thank you very much. Uh yeah, before we
Speaker 1: wrap it up, we'll just you know, I guess let
Speaker 1: everybody plug themselves again, Lisa, what is going on?
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Speaker 1: Oh yeah yeah, I definitely want to get you both
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Speaker 1: Thank you?
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Speaker 1: No, definitely, though it was a great chat, we definitely
Speaker 1: have to do more of them. It was really awesome
Speaker 1: enough to get you one for Stargos as well, so yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: but thank you all again, all of you for making
Speaker 1: the time especially headless and Lisa came from doing a
Speaker 1: show a few hours ago. That's what's up. That is
Speaker 1: the end of another recult rejects until the next one.
Speaker 1: Everybody be well later