WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.600 --> 00:00:03.240 The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock 2 00:00:03.319 --> 00:00:04.799 Accident and injury Lawyers. 3 00:00:05.480 --> 00:00:08.160 No It's Mandy Connell. 4 00:00:08.160 --> 00:00:10.080 And Connall. 5 00:00:10.960 --> 00:00:15.039 On KOA ninety one FM. 6 00:00:15.240 --> 00:00:24.160 S got Way the Noisy through three, Thy Connell, Keithing 7 00:00:24.960 --> 00:00:25.519 sad Thing. 8 00:00:26.760 --> 00:00:30.399 Welcome, Local, Welcome to a Thursday edition of the show. 9 00:00:30.519 --> 00:00:31.960 The Gang is Back Together. 10 00:00:32.079 --> 00:00:37.359 Anthony Rodriguez has returned from his wild weekend in Vegas. 11 00:00:39.880 --> 00:00:41.280 More on that in a bit, because I want to 12 00:00:41.280 --> 00:00:43.920 hear how summer vacation went. And in the meantime, we 13 00:00:44.000 --> 00:00:45.320 have a lot of stuff on the blog today and 14 00:00:45.320 --> 00:00:48.439 we're going to talk to Senator Bob Barb Kirkmeyer almost 15 00:00:48.439 --> 00:00:52.479 made her a dude, Senator Barb Kirkmeyer today one. And 16 00:00:53.079 --> 00:00:55.679 there are so much stuff going on in Colorado right 17 00:00:55.679 --> 00:00:56.759 now that is none of it's going. 18 00:00:56.719 --> 00:00:57.119 To be good. 19 00:00:57.320 --> 00:01:00.719 I'm just letting you know, not a bit. We're gonna 20 00:01:00.719 --> 00:01:02.920 have a special session. We're gonna talk to Barb about 21 00:01:02.960 --> 00:01:06.760 the budget. She has been on the budget Committee. I 22 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:08.480 don't know how many years she's been on it. The 23 00:01:08.599 --> 00:01:11.879 boys as she's been sounding the alarm for the longest 24 00:01:11.920 --> 00:01:15.519 time about all the overspending that's happening in Colorado. And 25 00:01:15.560 --> 00:01:19.480 now the chickens have come home to roost financially, and 26 00:01:19.640 --> 00:01:25.120 Colorado's in a pickle. Denver's in a pickle. So it 27 00:01:25.200 --> 00:01:27.280 is uh, it's gonna be a good conversation. Let's do 28 00:01:27.319 --> 00:01:31.439 the blog first. Find the blog at mandy'sblog dot com. 29 00:01:31.480 --> 00:01:34.439 That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline that says 30 00:01:34.439 --> 00:01:37.359 seven ten twenty five blog. Barb Kirkmeyer joins to talk 31 00:01:37.400 --> 00:01:40.599 budgets and special session. Click on that and here are 32 00:01:40.640 --> 00:01:41.920 the headlines you will find within. 33 00:01:42.040 --> 00:01:43.840 I think it was in office half of American all 34 00:01:43.879 --> 00:01:46.280 with ships and clippas say that's going to press plant. 35 00:01:47.640 --> 00:01:47.959 Today. 36 00:01:48.000 --> 00:01:51.760 On the blog, Senator Barb Kirkmeyer knows Colorado's budget and more. 37 00:01:52.159 --> 00:01:53.079 Kyle Clarks she. 38 00:01:53.159 --> 00:01:57.239 Lacks Doug co commissioners about that no tax on overtime? 39 00:01:57.760 --> 00:01:58.239 A Brint? 40 00:01:58.680 --> 00:02:02.840 What's saying on just Brent notices what freedom does for people? 41 00:02:03.159 --> 00:02:05.599 That time Grock went full neo Nazi. Can teach us 42 00:02:05.599 --> 00:02:09.479 about AI's limitations. Paul McCartney is coming to course Field 43 00:02:09.879 --> 00:02:13.319 the Salvation Army new Doors. We're a danger. Biden's Army 44 00:02:13.400 --> 00:02:16.719 is a bart. Biden's doctor is in a horrible position. 45 00:02:17.199 --> 00:02:20.080 Your good news story of the day. Another example of 46 00:02:20.080 --> 00:02:23.879 the garbage job, former Aurora PD chief Vanessa Wilson did 47 00:02:24.199 --> 00:02:26.599 planned parenthood drops Medicaid patients. 48 00:02:26.840 --> 00:02:28.159 How much debt do you have? 49 00:02:28.639 --> 00:02:30.879 When do the provisions of the big beautiful bill go 50 00:02:30.960 --> 00:02:34.159 into effect? Electric vehicles are not ready for road trips. 51 00:02:34.400 --> 00:02:37.879 Trust the science? Oh no, not that science. How often 52 00:02:37.879 --> 00:02:40.759 should you wash your sheets? Could there be peace between 53 00:02:40.879 --> 00:02:43.599 Syria and Israel? This may be too pricey even for 54 00:02:43.680 --> 00:02:47.599 James Bond. The excessive influencer shower routines are just that, 55 00:02:48.120 --> 00:02:50.560 how to get people to talk without them realizing it. 56 00:02:50.960 --> 00:02:52.840 Now AI is making keyboards. 57 00:02:53.199 --> 00:02:54.800 This would be an er trip for me. 58 00:02:55.319 --> 00:02:58.520 Chuck e cheese is coming for adults. A lazy river 59 00:02:58.680 --> 00:03:01.960 might be just what the Rocky need. Comedian Chris Robinson 60 00:03:01.960 --> 00:03:05.719 says he's out A rod asked AI about the Broncos. 61 00:03:06.080 --> 00:03:09.520 Those are the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot 62 00:03:09.560 --> 00:03:14.039 com Tech two Oh winn. Thanks Nancy A Ron. I 63 00:03:14.039 --> 00:03:15.879 got to ask you about this robot thing. I got 64 00:03:15.919 --> 00:03:19.560 to ask you about this. What What is Aura? The 65 00:03:19.639 --> 00:03:22.840 robot at just their AI robot. 66 00:03:22.840 --> 00:03:27.840 They've got this high tech, really top notch apparently robot 67 00:03:28.000 --> 00:03:29.120 that what. 68 00:03:29.080 --> 00:03:30.919 Does she do? Does she do anything otherm than just 69 00:03:30.919 --> 00:03:31.400 stand there? 70 00:03:32.039 --> 00:03:34.080 No, just stand there and talk to everyone that comes around. 71 00:03:34.120 --> 00:03:35.639 It was like a full group of people that were 72 00:03:35.680 --> 00:03:37.080 around there. I just happened to get in at the 73 00:03:37.159 --> 00:03:38.599 right time to be able to ask a question. 74 00:03:38.680 --> 00:03:39.560 Now, did you ask her? 75 00:03:39.800 --> 00:03:40.080 Well? 76 00:03:40.560 --> 00:03:43.759 I was quickly turned away from my first question because 77 00:03:43.840 --> 00:03:47.159 apparently they do not let After thinking about it, it makes 78 00:03:47.199 --> 00:03:50.879 a lot of sense because they could be really bad. 79 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:53.360 I not allowed, not allowed to make predictions. 80 00:03:54.280 --> 00:03:58.439 You're a gambling town, do not make predictions? 81 00:03:58.560 --> 00:04:02.439 Yes, While it was, I mean, and maybe it's not 82 00:04:02.520 --> 00:04:05.479 just sports, they flat out told me because they have handlers. 83 00:04:05.919 --> 00:04:08.319 So the robot Wait, how do you get that gig? 84 00:04:08.319 --> 00:04:09.159 I had a handler? 85 00:04:09.639 --> 00:04:11.120 I don't know, Like, I mean, what does that guy 86 00:04:11.159 --> 00:04:11.599 get paid? 87 00:04:11.800 --> 00:04:13.879 Well, it was this one lady standing around with the 88 00:04:13.960 --> 00:04:17.160 microphone and going around the group of people there looking 89 00:04:17.160 --> 00:04:21.279 for questions for Aura, and she just flat out said 90 00:04:21.319 --> 00:04:21.759 she doesn't. 91 00:04:21.959 --> 00:04:23.360 We don't have her make predictions. 92 00:04:23.959 --> 00:04:25.920 My first one, which was what are the Bronco Super 93 00:04:25.920 --> 00:04:27.279 Bowl chances in twenty twenty five? 94 00:04:28.199 --> 00:04:29.240 Wasn't allowed to ask that? 95 00:04:29.360 --> 00:04:33.759 Okay, so respectfully, as cool as Aura was, it's kind 96 00:04:33.759 --> 00:04:35.040 of just a BONI fide Google search. 97 00:04:35.120 --> 00:04:37.040 Yeah, yeah, not a whole lot there. It was cool. 98 00:04:37.120 --> 00:04:38.800 I mean it said my name, So that's cool. 99 00:04:38.800 --> 00:04:40.959 I guess did you go to the Sphere for an 100 00:04:40.959 --> 00:04:41.920 event or did you just go? 101 00:04:43.519 --> 00:04:47.120 I went to the official Postcard from Earth, like official 102 00:04:47.360 --> 00:04:51.360 Sphere Experience show, and that is one of the coolest 103 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:52.720 things I've ever gotten to do. 104 00:04:53.199 --> 00:04:57.680 Oh my god, one single person say anything other than 105 00:04:57.720 --> 00:04:59.160 what you just said about this. 106 00:04:59.399 --> 00:05:04.920 The Sphere Experience was stupidly mind blowing, Like I could 107 00:05:04.920 --> 00:05:11.759 not fathom, like the amount of money put into the 108 00:05:11.800 --> 00:05:15.839 amount of screens, and my wife and I kept saying, 109 00:05:16.160 --> 00:05:19.600 you know, the cameras that they had to use to 110 00:05:19.720 --> 00:05:22.639 shoot the footage that was seen in this show. 111 00:05:23.279 --> 00:05:26.040 I mean, it was mind boggling. 112 00:05:26.399 --> 00:05:29.040 Well, so I know that you do a show like 113 00:05:29.240 --> 00:05:32.120 like when you two did their show, it cost them, 114 00:05:32.240 --> 00:05:35.519 like I don't know, like seven million dollars. 115 00:05:35.199 --> 00:05:36.160 Just to produce it. 116 00:05:36.959 --> 00:05:40.439 So the Spirit itself cost two point three billion dollars 117 00:05:40.480 --> 00:05:40.920 to build. 118 00:05:41.199 --> 00:05:44.480 I'm literally looking at right now because we were curious 119 00:05:44.480 --> 00:05:46.519 about this. I never looked it up. How long will 120 00:05:46.519 --> 00:05:48.759 the Sphere be in the red financially? 121 00:05:49.079 --> 00:05:49.600 Oh wow? 122 00:05:50.439 --> 00:05:52.600 Of course, no clear cut answer, maybe or would answer 123 00:05:52.600 --> 00:05:54.319 that probably not because they probably don't want to know 124 00:05:54.319 --> 00:05:58.839 how badly they are doing financially. But that wasn't cheap 125 00:05:58.920 --> 00:06:00.560 to put that thing together. Like you said, how much 126 00:06:00.560 --> 00:06:01.720 two billion, two. 127 00:06:01.600 --> 00:06:02.639 Point three billion. 128 00:06:02.639 --> 00:06:05.560 It's the most expensive entertainment venue in the world. 129 00:06:05.680 --> 00:06:08.319 I will say, I'm really glad we did that experience 130 00:06:08.360 --> 00:06:10.759 and didn't wait around or go to Vegas during a 131 00:06:10.800 --> 00:06:13.560 certain time during a concert, because I don't think I 132 00:06:13.600 --> 00:06:16.199 would like a concert there. I don't think money have 133 00:06:16.319 --> 00:06:20.439 because you the stage is so far down at the bottom, 134 00:06:20.839 --> 00:06:23.319 and there's no way that what they could do could 135 00:06:23.319 --> 00:06:27.639 ever distract or match the experience on the giant city. 136 00:06:27.800 --> 00:06:31.000 Imagine having the band on the screen. Everybody that I 137 00:06:31.040 --> 00:06:33.199 know that seen a show there said it was the 138 00:06:33.199 --> 00:06:34.959 most incredible thing. 139 00:06:35.120 --> 00:06:36.720 They had ever seen in their lives. 140 00:06:36.800 --> 00:06:38.680 Up there though, because I heard that they do a 141 00:06:38.800 --> 00:06:41.279 show like on the on the screen, the. 142 00:06:41.160 --> 00:06:43.079 Mix of things, so you see the band, do you 143 00:06:43.120 --> 00:06:45.199 see them integrated with the background. 144 00:06:45.399 --> 00:06:48.480 The footage of the band actually being put up for 145 00:06:48.560 --> 00:06:51.920 display like on the screens I've just seen. Basically, Hey, 146 00:06:51.959 --> 00:06:53.800 the band's playing, also the show's going on at the 147 00:06:53.839 --> 00:06:55.519 same time. That's the vibe that I've gotten from the 148 00:06:55.519 --> 00:06:56.680 small amount of videos I've seen. 149 00:06:56.800 --> 00:07:00.279 Well, the U two's concert that they did, they watched 150 00:07:00.319 --> 00:07:01.879 the show with the Sphere. It cost him ten million 151 00:07:01.920 --> 00:07:05.959 dollars four hundred thousand dollars per song to do the 152 00:07:06.000 --> 00:07:10.519 background graphics. So the UFC show at the Sphere has 153 00:07:10.560 --> 00:07:14.279 a twenty million dollar budget. So it's just it's it's 154 00:07:14.319 --> 00:07:15.959 I've got to go. I'm I've got to go see 155 00:07:15.959 --> 00:07:16.279 my mom. 156 00:07:16.319 --> 00:07:16.920 My mom lives in me. 157 00:07:17.040 --> 00:07:18.639 I want to go see my mom. I might make 158 00:07:18.680 --> 00:07:19.639 the trip to go see it. 159 00:07:19.639 --> 00:07:20.600 Then here's the answer. 160 00:07:20.639 --> 00:07:23.319 The Sphere in Vegas has faced significant operating losses since 161 00:07:23.319 --> 00:07:26.759 its opening in September twenty twenty three, with reports indicating 162 00:07:26.759 --> 00:07:29.439 a total operating loss of one point one point eight 163 00:07:29.639 --> 00:07:31.920 billion since mid twenty twenty two. 164 00:07:32.360 --> 00:07:34.360 Wow, they in the first. 165 00:07:34.199 --> 00:07:36.519 Three months of operation they generated only and I say 166 00:07:36.560 --> 00:07:39.199 only compared to that number. They generate only one hundred 167 00:07:39.199 --> 00:07:41.879 and sixty seven point eight million in revenue, but operating 168 00:07:41.920 --> 00:07:45.120 expenses totally sixty seven point three So in that first 169 00:07:45.199 --> 00:07:46.879 three months they made one hundred and sixty seven million. 170 00:07:46.920 --> 00:07:49.560 But you just say it costs two billion to may three. 171 00:07:49.399 --> 00:07:52.079 Billion, and the operating expenses are a million a day. 172 00:07:52.199 --> 00:07:54.639 This texter said, Mandy, we just booked a weekend in 173 00:07:54.720 --> 00:07:57.279 Vegas just to see the Wizard of Oz at the Sphere, 174 00:07:57.480 --> 00:08:00.399 looking forward to it. That is going to cost eighty 175 00:08:00.639 --> 00:08:04.879 million dollars promoting the hell a million just. 176 00:08:04.800 --> 00:08:05.360 To produce that. 177 00:08:05.480 --> 00:08:07.800 Well, they get quite a bit of money from the 178 00:08:07.800 --> 00:08:10.279 ads that display on the outside. And I would say 179 00:08:10.279 --> 00:08:12.319 half the time we were looking at it, they were 180 00:08:12.319 --> 00:08:14.839 displaying the Wizard of Oz promo, right, So that person's 181 00:08:14.839 --> 00:08:17.120 gonna be very happy because they're putting all into that one. 182 00:08:17.240 --> 00:08:20.839 Well, this person said, no, the band was super close 183 00:08:20.879 --> 00:08:21.360 on the screen. 184 00:08:21.399 --> 00:08:22.800 I could see the pits on their face. 185 00:08:23.839 --> 00:08:27.120 But that that postcard from Earth. Their their their. 186 00:08:27.439 --> 00:08:32.519 Feature experience show that you can see. Oh my god, Seriously, 187 00:08:32.600 --> 00:08:35.200 you have to if you are going to Vegas anytime. Listeners, 188 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:37.799 anytime in the future, you if you have not gone 189 00:08:37.799 --> 00:08:39.679 to the Sphere, you have to go to the show. 190 00:08:39.759 --> 00:08:40.559 Oh well, they're. 191 00:08:40.440 --> 00:08:43.799 Building another one. I think in Paris somewhere or something 192 00:08:43.840 --> 00:08:44.000 like that. 193 00:08:44.039 --> 00:08:46.000 They're building one specially much longer. 194 00:08:46.480 --> 00:08:49.559 But here's the thing, though, everyone they build, they're going 195 00:08:49.600 --> 00:08:51.600 to be able to build a little bit cheaper, right 196 00:08:51.639 --> 00:08:53.600 as the efficiencies and they figure out the tech and 197 00:08:53.639 --> 00:08:56.879 things like that, so they won't be that bad. Somebody said, Mandy, 198 00:08:56.919 --> 00:08:59.360 where can I find the blog? Guess what someone did, Anthony, 199 00:08:59.440 --> 00:09:02.279 what they do? Someone bought Randy Cromwell dot com and 200 00:09:02.320 --> 00:09:03.000 redirected it. 201 00:09:02.960 --> 00:09:06.879 To my blog. Yeah, like I hear that. 202 00:09:07.559 --> 00:09:11.159 You made me laugh so hard, so hard, So thank 203 00:09:11.200 --> 00:09:11.559 you for that. 204 00:09:13.159 --> 00:09:14.960 This person said, I went to two Dead in Company 205 00:09:15.000 --> 00:09:17.440 shows at the Sphere, and I've never experienced anything like 206 00:09:17.480 --> 00:09:19.519 that in my life. 207 00:09:19.720 --> 00:09:21.360 But they do say if you have vertigo, don't go. 208 00:09:22.360 --> 00:09:25.480 You know what, I never ever, ever, ever really ever 209 00:09:26.320 --> 00:09:28.679 get motion sickness with anything. Yeah, I was the only 210 00:09:28.720 --> 00:09:30.919 one in our group of eleven that did not particularly 211 00:09:30.960 --> 00:09:32.600 feel great for about ten minutes after the show. 212 00:09:32.639 --> 00:09:34.320 Wow, we were walking down. 213 00:09:34.320 --> 00:09:36.600 We were way up top, which I recommend, by the way, 214 00:09:36.720 --> 00:09:38.840 cheapest seats are the best seeds all the way at 215 00:09:38.840 --> 00:09:41.039 the top because you need to be able to not 216 00:09:41.159 --> 00:09:43.279 crank your head around too much to see it right. 217 00:09:43.360 --> 00:09:45.960 Even with that, And this was the postcard from Earth Show. 218 00:09:46.039 --> 00:09:50.120 Not a LSD kind of feeling concert. This was a 219 00:09:50.879 --> 00:09:52.840 it's going all around different parts of the globe showing 220 00:09:52.879 --> 00:09:56.480 these amazing high definition shots from different parts of the Earth, 221 00:09:56.600 --> 00:09:59.960 animal life, everything, even after that, which was I would 222 00:10:00.080 --> 00:10:02.320 say pretty mild. Coolest part, by the way, where the 223 00:10:02.360 --> 00:10:05.759 thunderstorms that they did, yeah, the natural disaster showings. Oh 224 00:10:06.000 --> 00:10:09.159 but even after that, I was not feeling particularly great. 225 00:10:09.360 --> 00:10:10.000 It's subsided. 226 00:10:10.000 --> 00:10:13.279 After they have decompression rooms where you can kind of 227 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:16.240 step out of your seating area, and then they have 228 00:10:16.320 --> 00:10:19.080 literally like rooms when you get over stimulated. 229 00:10:19.200 --> 00:10:19.840 Yeah, you can go. 230 00:10:19.879 --> 00:10:22.600 One of the things I said was, I don't know 231 00:10:22.600 --> 00:10:24.279 if I'd want to see a concert here because I'm 232 00:10:24.320 --> 00:10:25.840 already not feeling particularly great. 233 00:10:25.879 --> 00:10:26.879 Well, and that never happens to me. 234 00:10:27.200 --> 00:10:30.320 As I said, I I've probably I've probably talked to 235 00:10:30.399 --> 00:10:33.120 thirty people at this point that have gone to the show, 236 00:10:33.159 --> 00:10:35.240 including my brother and sister in law who live in 237 00:10:35.320 --> 00:10:36.200 Las Vegas. 238 00:10:35.960 --> 00:10:37.559 And have seen everything. 239 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:40.440 They have literally seen every great show in Las Vegas, 240 00:10:40.440 --> 00:10:45.000 and they said, there is nothing like the sphere, absolutely incredible. 241 00:10:45.080 --> 00:10:46.240 You know, we go to Vegas all the time. 242 00:10:46.240 --> 00:10:49.039 We're closing in on I mean we we literally did 243 00:10:49.080 --> 00:10:51.279 not find a show we wanted to see yesterday because 244 00:10:51.279 --> 00:10:52.840 we're like, nothing speaks to us. We've seen all the 245 00:10:52.840 --> 00:10:55.240 big ones, We've seen all the great ones. Let's just chill. 246 00:10:55.360 --> 00:10:57.279 Does anybody have a residency going on right now in 247 00:10:57.279 --> 00:10:57.720 the summer. 248 00:10:58.279 --> 00:11:00.120 Kelly Clarkson was supposed to good thing. We were it's 249 00:11:00.120 --> 00:11:02.320 schedule to see her because she canceled her first couple days. 250 00:11:02.320 --> 00:11:04.399 She's getting back at it. But most of the shows 251 00:11:04.399 --> 00:11:06.559 that are immaculate, but Sphere and ironically the other one 252 00:11:06.600 --> 00:11:08.919 we saw, which is the Awakening at the Win, two 253 00:11:08.919 --> 00:11:11.000 of the best shows we've ever seen in all of 254 00:11:11.000 --> 00:11:13.120 our double digit amount of shows. 255 00:11:13.200 --> 00:11:14.720 When that's probably my favorite YU. 256 00:11:14.919 --> 00:11:16.960 I love this Here and Awakening we just happened to 257 00:11:16.960 --> 00:11:18.799 see on the same trip too. Probably the best shows 258 00:11:18.840 --> 00:11:22.320 we've seen. Sphere by far is number one. How much 259 00:11:22.320 --> 00:11:23.960 did it cost? Somebody asked, how much did the show 260 00:11:24.000 --> 00:11:25.440 you went to? You got the cheap seats? What did 261 00:11:25.440 --> 00:11:27.759 you guys pay? One hundred bucks ahead, so that's the 262 00:11:27.799 --> 00:11:29.600 cheap seat. Yeah, maybeybe it's like one hundred and twenty. 263 00:11:29.679 --> 00:11:31.960 Yeah, but there's so bad seats, so there we go. 264 00:11:32.200 --> 00:11:34.840 No, I would say, I would say the lower level, 265 00:11:34.919 --> 00:11:35.799 more expensive ones. 266 00:11:35.840 --> 00:11:37.080 I would not have liked to sit there. 267 00:11:37.120 --> 00:11:39.279 I saw those people way down there, what they probably 268 00:11:39.279 --> 00:11:41.840 had to do to experience it all from the point 269 00:11:41.840 --> 00:11:43.879 of view we had, I would have much rather kept 270 00:11:43.879 --> 00:11:46.320 the cheap ones. We got so cheapest ones all the 271 00:11:46.320 --> 00:11:48.799 way back. You will not be disappointed, all right, So that. 272 00:11:48.919 --> 00:11:49.960 Is your Sphere review. 273 00:11:50.080 --> 00:11:53.279 Someone else asked on the text line Mandy Vegas in July, 274 00:11:53.360 --> 00:11:55.159 why didn't a Rod just vacation on the sun. 275 00:11:55.360 --> 00:11:55.759 What was it like? 276 00:11:55.759 --> 00:11:57.960 One hundred the highest th guy was one hundred and eight. 277 00:11:58.000 --> 00:12:01.440 It was fantasm. That's not bad, No, it's good. And 278 00:12:01.519 --> 00:12:03.639 Vegas does it right if they want to keep you 279 00:12:03.720 --> 00:12:05.600 in those casinos, you're not outside more than ten minutes 280 00:12:05.639 --> 00:12:06.720 at a time between between you. 281 00:12:06.799 --> 00:12:07.919 Did you do any cool pull time? 282 00:12:07.960 --> 00:12:08.159 Though? 283 00:12:08.840 --> 00:12:10.840 We didn't know pull time this time. Other people in 284 00:12:10.840 --> 00:12:12.879 our party did. But we we had everything's going on 285 00:12:12.960 --> 00:12:15.559 all right, like winning a lot of money in slots 286 00:12:15.600 --> 00:12:18.720 and winning nothing and going negative by a lotting craps 287 00:12:19.000 --> 00:12:22.080 for the first time ever. The Vegas God said, a 288 00:12:22.320 --> 00:12:25.759 Rod middle finger to you, because I had told people 289 00:12:25.799 --> 00:12:27.639 for years and it had been the case that we 290 00:12:27.720 --> 00:12:30.000 do not lose in craps. We either win or break 291 00:12:30.039 --> 00:12:33.519 even the Vegas sods said. The Vegas God said, yeah, 292 00:12:33.759 --> 00:12:37.639 how about this, And we got most walloped in craps 293 00:12:37.679 --> 00:12:40.320 I have ever gotten beaten, even my dad, who taught 294 00:12:40.320 --> 00:12:42.679 me craps like was mind blown, like I have, we 295 00:12:42.720 --> 00:12:45.240 have never done this bad wow, Holy cow, but we 296 00:12:45.320 --> 00:12:46.720 got lucky in slots a couple of times helped make 297 00:12:46.759 --> 00:12:47.039 up for it. 298 00:12:47.080 --> 00:12:48.759 So we're we're in the red total. 299 00:12:49.200 --> 00:12:51.320 Just a bit that Texter said Mandy, I'm sure this 300 00:12:51.360 --> 00:12:53.080 spear is cool. But what happened to day when we 301 00:12:53.120 --> 00:12:55.120 went to see the band and they were the entertainment. 302 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:56.639 I think there's space for both. 303 00:12:57.080 --> 00:12:58.840 Like there are certain bands that I love to go 304 00:12:58.879 --> 00:13:01.080 watch that are not exciting to watch because I just 305 00:13:01.200 --> 00:13:03.039 enjoy them. Steely Dan is one of those. All go 306 00:13:03.080 --> 00:13:05.559 see them all day long at Redrocks. Love the band, 307 00:13:05.919 --> 00:13:08.679 but if you can also create a wonderful show. 308 00:13:08.720 --> 00:13:10.000 One of the best concerts. 309 00:13:09.639 --> 00:13:13.840 I ever saw in my entire life was the last 310 00:13:13.840 --> 00:13:17.799 tour where Pink Floyd with Roger Waters, who I didn't 311 00:13:17.960 --> 00:13:20.559 realize was such an anti Semite at the time, did 312 00:13:20.600 --> 00:13:24.440 this incredible stage show of the Wall and it was 313 00:13:24.639 --> 00:13:28.200 a visual spectacle along with the music, and it's just different. 314 00:13:28.720 --> 00:13:30.440 It's just different. I think there's space for both of 315 00:13:30.519 --> 00:13:32.200 these things. I don't hate on the sphere. I can't 316 00:13:32.240 --> 00:13:34.080 wait to go myself. So I'm glad you had a 317 00:13:34.080 --> 00:13:35.879 good time, Anthony. We're glad you're back. 318 00:13:36.240 --> 00:13:36.519 Today. 319 00:13:36.519 --> 00:13:39.320 At one o'clock, we've got State Senator Barb Kirkmeyer coming up. 320 00:13:39.320 --> 00:13:42.200 You guys may not know this, but Colorado is headed 321 00:13:42.240 --> 00:13:45.720 for another special session because I don't know, our lawmakers 322 00:13:45.759 --> 00:13:47.480 cannot get their works done in a timely fashion. And 323 00:13:47.480 --> 00:13:49.480 we're going to talk to her about that, about the 324 00:13:49.600 --> 00:13:53.360 overall Colorado budget because she knows where all I mean, 325 00:13:53.440 --> 00:13:56.679 she knows the budget inside and out. So we're gonna 326 00:13:56.720 --> 00:13:58.960 do that at one o'clock. Now, you know what, I'm 327 00:13:59.000 --> 00:14:01.080 starting to scare myself a little bit because I find 328 00:14:01.080 --> 00:14:04.559 myself watching Kyle Clark do stuff on Next and I 329 00:14:04.639 --> 00:14:10.639 find myself nodding along. That's a little scary for me. 330 00:14:11.480 --> 00:14:13.440 It's like when you realize that your eyesight's going really 331 00:14:13.480 --> 00:14:14.919 bad and they're like, wait, am I going blind? 332 00:14:14.960 --> 00:14:16.440 Or am I just going old? 333 00:14:17.320 --> 00:14:21.480 But Kyle Clark did an absolute scorcher on the Douglas 334 00:14:21.519 --> 00:14:22.960 County Commissioner clown Show. 335 00:14:23.000 --> 00:14:25.120 Now what clown show am I talking about? This time? 336 00:14:25.440 --> 00:14:27.559 I'm talking about the most recent clown show, which I 337 00:14:27.600 --> 00:14:29.679 almost can't even talk about without laughing because. 338 00:14:29.480 --> 00:14:32.080 It's so stupid. 339 00:14:33.039 --> 00:14:39.519 When Coloraden's or excuse me, Douglas Countians, Douglassians. 340 00:14:39.440 --> 00:14:41.080 What do we call ourselves? I don't know. 341 00:14:42.240 --> 00:14:47.039 Jefferson County, You're Jeffersonians, Douglas, Douglas, I don't know. Anyway, 342 00:14:47.440 --> 00:14:49.960 they just shot down the home rule that was trying 343 00:14:50.000 --> 00:14:53.919 to be shoved through by the county commissioners. And as 344 00:14:54.000 --> 00:14:58.960 part of his campaigning for this home rule situation, which 345 00:14:58.960 --> 00:15:00.960 again I'm not opposed to, I just didn't like the 346 00:15:00.960 --> 00:15:01.960 way they were trying to shut it down. 347 00:15:02.000 --> 00:15:02.679 Everybody's throat. 348 00:15:04.559 --> 00:15:08.279 George Steel said on a different radio show that the 349 00:15:08.399 --> 00:15:15.080 people working against it were funded by the Chinese Communist government. Now, 350 00:15:16.159 --> 00:15:20.519 the absolute absurdity of that statement is it's just absurd 351 00:15:20.679 --> 00:15:23.120 on the face of it, Like, what in the world 352 00:15:23.200 --> 00:15:26.120 does the Chinese government give a rats pe tuity about 353 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:29.840 Douglas County, Colorado. Of all the things in the world 354 00:15:29.879 --> 00:15:32.799 that the Chinese Communists could go after, I can assure 355 00:15:32.799 --> 00:15:35.240 you that Douglas County, Colorado isn't even on their radar. 356 00:15:36.120 --> 00:15:38.000 And yet, not only. 357 00:15:37.759 --> 00:15:41.120 Did he say that, he said it again, and he 358 00:15:41.279 --> 00:15:43.720 said it now they're trying to spin it a different way, 359 00:15:43.919 --> 00:15:46.320 but he said it because one of the biggest funders 360 00:15:46.360 --> 00:15:48.879 of the opposition, which was not well funded at all 361 00:15:48.919 --> 00:15:52.879 and still managed to be extremely successful. Is a woman, 362 00:15:53.200 --> 00:15:58.120 an American citizen of Japanese descent, And I guess to George, 363 00:15:58.159 --> 00:15:59.840 you know, all them people from Asia, they all looked 364 00:15:59.840 --> 00:16:03.200 the saying they're all they all look the same, they're 365 00:16:03.240 --> 00:16:04.000 all communists. 366 00:16:04.039 --> 00:16:04.759 Ah, I don't know. 367 00:16:05.639 --> 00:16:09.480 So after proving himself a fool by opening his mouth 368 00:16:09.639 --> 00:16:11.679 and you know the old saying, it's better to be 369 00:16:11.679 --> 00:16:14.360 thought a fool than open up your mouth and prove it, right, 370 00:16:14.399 --> 00:16:18.200 I mean that's he opened up his mouth and uh yeah, 371 00:16:18.320 --> 00:16:21.960 So that was it. And instead instead of taking a 372 00:16:22.000 --> 00:16:27.399 moment of introspection and maybe recognizing how absurd and idiotic 373 00:16:27.519 --> 00:16:30.879 that statement was and how it could be considered racially 374 00:16:31.000 --> 00:16:34.399 offensive to just lump an American citizen who is of 375 00:16:34.480 --> 00:16:39.639 Japanese descent in with Chinese communists, he would think that 376 00:16:39.639 --> 00:16:42.759 that he could find the time to maybe say, hey, guys, 377 00:16:42.799 --> 00:16:47.480 you know what, I got some information that the No 378 00:16:47.639 --> 00:16:51.080 Kings protests were being funded by Chinese communists, and I 379 00:16:51.200 --> 00:16:55.240 just assumed that the same people were funding this. 380 00:16:55.799 --> 00:16:56.519 I was wrong. 381 00:16:57.320 --> 00:16:59.919 It was a silly thing to say. I apologize for 382 00:17:00.000 --> 00:17:02.600 anybody whose feelings I hurt. Do you realize that little 383 00:17:02.639 --> 00:17:07.039 bit that I just said could stop this in its tracks. Hey, 384 00:17:07.119 --> 00:17:08.759 you know I got out over my skis. I just 385 00:17:08.799 --> 00:17:11.640 conflated these two things. Was it was a silly thing 386 00:17:11.680 --> 00:17:16.720 to say, he can't do that. And in Monday's County 387 00:17:16.720 --> 00:17:19.200 Commission meeting, a bunch of citizens showed up and they 388 00:17:19.240 --> 00:17:22.880 were ticked, and George once again proved that he is 389 00:17:22.920 --> 00:17:23.839 a pompous a hole. 390 00:17:24.960 --> 00:17:28.319 He made fun of them. He let's see, as. 391 00:17:28.160 --> 00:17:31.480 He was walking out of the room, he was waving 392 00:17:31.519 --> 00:17:33.559 his finger at them as they were waving their feet. 393 00:17:33.559 --> 00:17:37.039 It was just so juvenile. That's what I'm looking for. 394 00:17:37.119 --> 00:17:40.519 And Kyle covered it beautifully. I'm not going to play it, 395 00:17:40.759 --> 00:17:42.559 but you can go to the website and watch it. 396 00:17:42.599 --> 00:17:43.720 I embedded it in there. 397 00:17:43.759 --> 00:17:48.400 But it's just, you know, in theory, I am on 398 00:17:48.440 --> 00:17:52.000 the right with the same people like these are my people, right, 399 00:17:52.119 --> 00:17:57.319 I should align with them more closely, except I don't 400 00:17:57.400 --> 00:17:59.920 like people who abuse their power. And I don't care 401 00:18:00.079 --> 00:18:02.559 or what party they're in. I don't like it when 402 00:18:02.599 --> 00:18:05.119 democrats abuse their power. Later on, when we talked to 403 00:18:05.160 --> 00:18:07.640 Barb Kirkmeyer, We're going to talk about how the Colorado 404 00:18:07.759 --> 00:18:12.240 legislature preemptively eliminated the tax break that people were about 405 00:18:12.240 --> 00:18:16.200 to get on overtime. How did they do that, Well, 406 00:18:16.240 --> 00:18:18.319 as the federal government is part of the Big Beautiful 407 00:18:18.319 --> 00:18:22.799 Bill eliminated or exempted the first twelve five hundred dollars 408 00:18:22.799 --> 00:18:27.319 of overtime from taxation. The Colorado Democrats make sure that 409 00:18:27.440 --> 00:18:29.440 it will be counted, so you can be taxed by 410 00:18:29.440 --> 00:18:33.920 the state on your overtime. And what's hilarious is that 411 00:18:33.960 --> 00:18:37.400 people on the left are saying, well, they didn't increase taxes, 412 00:18:37.640 --> 00:18:40.319 it's the same as it was before. What they did 413 00:18:40.480 --> 00:18:44.680 was eliminate a tax break, Which isn't that the same 414 00:18:44.680 --> 00:18:49.079 as raising taxes. If you eliminate a tax break, you 415 00:18:49.200 --> 00:18:52.559 have raised taxes. Now the net benefit for the government 416 00:18:52.680 --> 00:18:56.640 might be the same, but you have still raised taxes. 417 00:18:57.960 --> 00:19:00.440 And they're trying to spin this it's not a big deal. Well, 418 00:19:00.480 --> 00:19:02.559 why don't you ask the people who who thought they 419 00:19:02.559 --> 00:19:04.960 were getting a break on overtime. Why don't you ask 420 00:19:05.000 --> 00:19:06.880 them if they feel like it's a big deal, why 421 00:19:06.880 --> 00:19:10.680 don't you just ask them. The Democrats in the state, 422 00:19:10.920 --> 00:19:14.160 in their one party rule, have nothing to check them. 423 00:19:14.519 --> 00:19:18.559 Barb Kirkmeyer tries other Republicans try, but they're hopelessly outnumbered. 424 00:19:18.599 --> 00:19:20.720 My question is how much more do. 425 00:19:20.799 --> 00:19:23.960 Things have to cost in Colorado before people start saying, 426 00:19:24.240 --> 00:19:27.519 wait a minute, it's not this expensive in other places. 427 00:19:27.720 --> 00:19:30.240 I just did a little experiment when I was in Ohio. 428 00:19:30.720 --> 00:19:33.559 I price check stuff. When I get back, I'll tell 429 00:19:33.559 --> 00:19:35.279 you what I found. I have the joke of the 430 00:19:35.359 --> 00:19:37.400 day on the text line, Anthony, are you ready? 431 00:19:37.799 --> 00:19:38.480 Are you ready for this? 432 00:19:39.480 --> 00:19:42.240 You may have heard in the blog today Paul McCartney, 433 00:19:42.319 --> 00:19:45.880 Sir Paul McCartney is coming to Coursefield in October, and 434 00:19:45.920 --> 00:19:48.440 a Texter sent this, Wow. 435 00:19:48.359 --> 00:19:50.240 Paul McCartney coming to course Field. 436 00:19:50.640 --> 00:19:52.640 There'll be more hits that night than the Rockies have 437 00:19:52.720 --> 00:19:53.240 all season. 438 00:19:54.559 --> 00:19:59.279 And I can't say that's wrong. I really can't. 439 00:19:59.519 --> 00:20:02.559 I heard kaa sports talking about the Rockies yesterday, and. 440 00:20:02.559 --> 00:20:06.440 Rick Lewis was on and Rick because look, I've watched. 441 00:20:06.200 --> 00:20:07.920 More Rockies games this year than I have in a 442 00:20:07.920 --> 00:20:09.799 long time. That's just a bad baseball team. 443 00:20:09.920 --> 00:20:10.559 And he's right. 444 00:20:10.920 --> 00:20:13.640 I will offer up this contribution to this conversation, please 445 00:20:13.920 --> 00:20:17.319 uh in one of the bigger sports books on the strip. 446 00:20:17.599 --> 00:20:18.480 Yeah, mind you. 447 00:20:18.640 --> 00:20:22.079 The Rockies were playing the very very popular Boston red Rod. 448 00:20:23.799 --> 00:20:26.359 I had to find like the smallest screen on the 449 00:20:26.519 --> 00:20:31.599 giant wall to find that game, and they were playing. 450 00:20:31.359 --> 00:20:31.880 The Red Sox. 451 00:20:31.960 --> 00:20:34.880 Yeah so all right, oh, just in time to see 452 00:20:34.880 --> 00:20:37.240 Trevor's story, you know, not on. 453 00:20:39.079 --> 00:20:42.960 Yeah right anyway, moving on, So I was in Ohio 454 00:20:43.079 --> 00:20:46.559 this past weekend visiting the grandkids, which, by the way, 455 00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:49.920 if your kids are in the teen years, grandkids are. 456 00:20:49.839 --> 00:20:52.480 Your reward for what you're going through now. 457 00:20:52.519 --> 00:20:54.680 And actually, you know a lot of young people say 458 00:20:54.680 --> 00:20:57.480 they're not going to have kids, and I'm not gonna. 459 00:20:58.519 --> 00:21:00.440 I'm not gonna like, I'm not gonna be those people. 460 00:21:00.559 --> 00:21:02.839 Is like you have to have kids, because you really 461 00:21:02.920 --> 00:21:04.759 don't have to have kids. But I will tell you this, 462 00:21:05.400 --> 00:21:10.319 having children is the greatest joy of my life, whether 463 00:21:10.359 --> 00:21:12.920 I burst them or not. Right like, I have two 464 00:21:13.599 --> 00:21:15.839 technically they're my step sons. I don't view them that way. 465 00:21:15.920 --> 00:21:19.279 I mean it's just been the greatest thing I've ever experienced. 466 00:21:19.319 --> 00:21:22.599 And now they had kids, my oldest, so now I 467 00:21:22.599 --> 00:21:25.920 have two grandsons, and it's being a grandparent is so 468 00:21:26.119 --> 00:21:29.279 much better than being a parent. It's like a million 469 00:21:29.319 --> 00:21:32.039 times better than being a parent. I don't think you 470 00:21:32.079 --> 00:21:34.920 can skip the first part though, But in any case, 471 00:21:34.960 --> 00:21:36.960 I digress. So I started doing a little as I 472 00:21:37.000 --> 00:21:39.039 do when I travel, started doing a little price checking 473 00:21:39.680 --> 00:21:40.559 around him. 474 00:21:40.359 --> 00:21:41.000 Just looking at stuff. 475 00:21:41.000 --> 00:21:42.480 When we're in this door, I'm like, oh, how much 476 00:21:42.519 --> 00:21:44.119 does a dozen of a dozen eggs cost? 477 00:21:44.160 --> 00:21:44.319 Here? 478 00:21:45.119 --> 00:21:47.000 Let me see what is a dozen eggs that cost? 479 00:21:47.119 --> 00:21:50.240 I don't know, three eighty nine just for a basic 480 00:21:50.640 --> 00:21:51.680 dozen eggs in Colorado? 481 00:21:51.720 --> 00:21:55.119 Oh to seventy nine? You tell me what does gas cost? 482 00:21:55.200 --> 00:21:55.279 Oh? 483 00:21:55.319 --> 00:21:58.119 Wait, is that two forty nine? I'm seeing yes. 484 00:21:58.920 --> 00:22:02.279 So then when I got home, I looked up a 485 00:22:02.480 --> 00:22:06.839 cost of living comparison between Ohio and Colorado, and I 486 00:22:06.880 --> 00:22:09.160 will not lie when I will tell you I was 487 00:22:09.279 --> 00:22:11.319 more shocked than I thought. 488 00:22:11.079 --> 00:22:11.480 I would be. 489 00:22:12.680 --> 00:22:16.319 Listen to some of this Colorado overall. No, I'm gonna 490 00:22:16.319 --> 00:22:18.000 save that number for the end. I'm gonna give you 491 00:22:18.000 --> 00:22:21.160 some different stuff childcare. By the way, there is no 492 00:22:21.480 --> 00:22:24.599 category where things are more expensive in Ohio than they 493 00:22:24.599 --> 00:22:27.559 are in Colorado. And I'm not advocating everybody moved to Ohio. 494 00:22:27.559 --> 00:22:30.359 I mean, Ohio is gray for like six months in 495 00:22:30.400 --> 00:22:33.720 the winter. There's you know, there's issues there that Colorado 496 00:22:33.880 --> 00:22:37.559 clearly is superior. This isn't a standard living or delight 497 00:22:37.599 --> 00:22:40.839 in living place. This is just a cost analysis because. 498 00:22:40.599 --> 00:22:42.839 I was just there. Okay, just want to clear that up. 499 00:22:44.359 --> 00:22:46.720 When you go to a restaurant in Colorado, you pay 500 00:22:46.799 --> 00:22:50.119 twenty one point nine percent more than you pay in Colorado. 501 00:22:51.599 --> 00:22:54.640 When you buy groceries, you pay nine point five percent 502 00:22:54.720 --> 00:22:58.720 more in Colorado. When you're paying for transportation, that's eight 503 00:22:58.759 --> 00:23:01.000 point eight percent more or in Colorado. 504 00:23:02.240 --> 00:23:04.200 Would you buy clothing, now. 505 00:23:04.079 --> 00:23:07.480 That you think clothing, how can clothing be more expensive? 506 00:23:07.920 --> 00:23:10.799 Right? But when you buy clothing you pay twelve point 507 00:23:10.839 --> 00:23:12.720 eight percent more in Colorado. 508 00:23:13.480 --> 00:23:15.839 When you go to see sports or entertainment, you're gonna 509 00:23:15.839 --> 00:23:19.880 pay twenty point two percent more in Colorado. When you 510 00:23:19.960 --> 00:23:22.599 have to use childcare, you're gonna pay twenty three point 511 00:23:22.640 --> 00:23:26.720 four percent more in Colorado. And here's the real kick 512 00:23:26.720 --> 00:23:29.920 in the teeth you guys, Anthony guests. Guess how much 513 00:23:30.039 --> 00:23:34.480 more housing costs in Colorado percentage wise than it does 514 00:23:34.519 --> 00:23:35.000 in Ohio. 515 00:23:35.119 --> 00:23:35.799 Just take a guess. 516 00:23:35.960 --> 00:23:37.000 Thirty eight percent. 517 00:23:37.079 --> 00:23:39.759 You're so close, but you're too low. Forty two point 518 00:23:39.839 --> 00:23:44.440 two percent, y'all. I found houses three bedroom, two and 519 00:23:44.480 --> 00:23:46.519 a half bath. It's not not like super fans. You're 520 00:23:46.559 --> 00:23:49.440 anything but did a really nice neighborhood for two hundred 521 00:23:49.440 --> 00:23:50.960 and eighty five thousand dollars? 522 00:23:51.400 --> 00:23:52.240 How much square feet? 523 00:23:52.359 --> 00:23:56.680 Like nineteen hundred two thousand, roughly two hundred and what 524 00:23:56.920 --> 00:23:59.240 two hundred and ninety seven thousand. I found some for 525 00:23:59.240 --> 00:24:02.079 two seventy nine. And these are in nice neighborhoods. These 526 00:24:02.079 --> 00:24:04.960 are not, like you know, in places you wouldn't want 527 00:24:04.960 --> 00:24:09.680 to live. The cost of living in Colorado is so insane, 528 00:24:09.960 --> 00:24:12.759 but because we're in it all the time, we've just 529 00:24:12.920 --> 00:24:16.519 absorbed it over the years. There's an article in Politico 530 00:24:16.640 --> 00:24:18.319 that a listener sent me out. I already read it, 531 00:24:19.000 --> 00:24:20.519 and it made me so mad. I didn't even put 532 00:24:20.519 --> 00:24:22.240 it on the blog because I care about you people 533 00:24:22.279 --> 00:24:25.240 in the listening audience. But it was about how Democrats 534 00:24:25.440 --> 00:24:29.240 are looking to Colorado as the model of how to turn. 535 00:24:29.039 --> 00:24:31.039 Other states blue. 536 00:24:31.119 --> 00:24:34.039 And I'm thinking to myself, have they not paid attention 537 00:24:34.960 --> 00:24:36.960 to what the Democrats have done. 538 00:24:37.039 --> 00:24:38.079 Two our state. 539 00:24:39.160 --> 00:24:42.519 Every single thing that they have laid their fingers on 540 00:24:42.920 --> 00:24:44.759 in under the guise of we're going to make it 541 00:24:44.759 --> 00:24:48.240 more affordable, they have just made it more expensive. They 542 00:24:48.279 --> 00:24:52.480 have layered on just layers and layers of regulation that 543 00:24:52.559 --> 00:24:56.599 have made every single aspect of our lives ridiculously more expensive, 544 00:24:56.640 --> 00:25:00.920 and they show no signs of stopping. He needs some perspective, 545 00:25:00.960 --> 00:25:03.039 do a little traveling. By the way, the overall number, 546 00:25:03.359 --> 00:25:08.640 Colorado is nineteen point eight percent more expensive than Ohio. 547 00:25:10.200 --> 00:25:15.240 That is, I mean, y'all, that's almost twenty percent. Is 548 00:25:15.319 --> 00:25:18.279 living here is paying the luxury tax of twenty percent. 549 00:25:19.480 --> 00:25:21.359 At a certain point you have to go. You know what, 550 00:25:21.440 --> 00:25:24.480 I don't go to the mountains that much. I'll just 551 00:25:24.640 --> 00:25:27.000 go on a winter vacation to get out of the gray. 552 00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:29.119 And all. 553 00:25:29.319 --> 00:25:31.480 I would say a vast majority of this is directly 554 00:25:31.559 --> 00:25:32.799 related to government policy. 555 00:25:32.839 --> 00:25:34.480 You want to know why our eggs are so expensive 556 00:25:34.759 --> 00:25:38.559 because we have to have cage free eggs. Do you 557 00:25:38.559 --> 00:25:40.160 want to know our gas is so expensive? 558 00:25:40.200 --> 00:25:42.160 Well, they've done everything they can to make the oil 559 00:25:42.160 --> 00:25:44.559 and gas business go out of business here in Colorado. 560 00:25:45.759 --> 00:25:48.759 What about childcare, Well, all of the new licensing requirements 561 00:25:48.759 --> 00:25:51.359 that they put on under the guise of protecting children 562 00:25:51.400 --> 00:25:57.000 have just made childcare unaffordable. Restaurants, we all know why 563 00:25:57.039 --> 00:26:02.000 restaurants are so expensive. You've got an outrageous wage, You've 564 00:26:02.000 --> 00:26:03.920 got food costs that are still out of control. 565 00:26:04.799 --> 00:26:07.039 It's just it's sad. It's so sad. 566 00:26:07.960 --> 00:26:09.599 And in any case, I'm not gonna dwell on that, 567 00:26:11.039 --> 00:26:13.519 not at all, not even a little bit, not even 568 00:26:13.559 --> 00:26:14.960 for a minute. But I do want to share this. 569 00:26:15.480 --> 00:26:18.039 I saw this yesterday on Twitter and I loved it 570 00:26:18.079 --> 00:26:20.880 so much. It's on the blog today. This from a 571 00:26:20.960 --> 00:26:24.319 guy from the UK, the United Kingdom. He's a British guy. 572 00:26:24.359 --> 00:26:27.519 I believe he said this. This is what he said 573 00:26:27.559 --> 00:26:28.960 in First of all, I saw it. He has this 574 00:26:29.000 --> 00:26:31.559 beautiful picture of him in Colorado. 575 00:26:31.799 --> 00:26:32.440 Lovely picture. 576 00:26:32.480 --> 00:26:36.839 If I'm not mistaken. He's a garden of the gods. Perhaps, Yeah, 577 00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:39.880 that's what it looks like to me. He wrote this 578 00:26:40.039 --> 00:26:43.519 on his X feet. We were in Colorado last week 579 00:26:43.559 --> 00:26:46.319 and I was struck by what is now an enormous 580 00:26:46.359 --> 00:26:49.640 disparity in wealth between the US and the UK. Spent 581 00:26:49.680 --> 00:26:52.000 a couple of nights in a cabin at an RV park. 582 00:26:52.200 --> 00:26:55.119 It had pools, slides, mini golf, et cetera. Fund for 583 00:26:55.160 --> 00:26:58.799 the kids, but the place was packed with RVs worth 584 00:26:58.920 --> 00:27:02.400 hundreds of thousands of Not only that, but it's clearly 585 00:27:02.440 --> 00:27:03.960 a conservative form of vacation. 586 00:27:04.319 --> 00:27:06.559 So the average car on the site was a pickup truck. 587 00:27:06.880 --> 00:27:09.559 These were almost universally less than a couple of years 588 00:27:09.599 --> 00:27:12.240 old and worth at least sixty to eighty k if 589 00:27:12.319 --> 00:27:15.440 not more. I could drive you to the Poshus place 590 00:27:15.440 --> 00:27:18.319 in Northern Ireland and though you'd see the occasional high 591 00:27:18.400 --> 00:27:21.359 end vehicle, the average car there would probably cost half 592 00:27:21.359 --> 00:27:23.839 as much as these. And then I was talking to 593 00:27:23.880 --> 00:27:26.759 someone and they said, yeah, this is the most this 594 00:27:26.920 --> 00:27:32.079 is the most typical middle class American summer getaway middle class. 595 00:27:33.000 --> 00:27:35.440 Our economies used to be roughly on par when it 596 00:27:35.480 --> 00:27:38.759 comes to GDP per capita, and now the American middle 597 00:27:38.799 --> 00:27:41.839 class lives at a level that puts the UK upper 598 00:27:41.880 --> 00:27:43.039 classes to shame. 599 00:27:44.200 --> 00:27:45.480 Sad times for us. 600 00:27:45.880 --> 00:27:49.559 Kudos to America for resisting the socialism that has ground 601 00:27:49.680 --> 00:27:54.319 our economy to a halt. When you see stuff like this, 602 00:27:55.039 --> 00:27:56.759 when you see posts, if you're not on x, if 603 00:27:56.759 --> 00:28:00.400 you share it, share it far and wide, Sure. 604 00:28:00.279 --> 00:28:01.039 Everybody sees it. 605 00:28:01.079 --> 00:28:05.720 Because this this like burgeoning bubbling of socialism that's that's 606 00:28:05.720 --> 00:28:09.480 coming up as younger people are struggling in this country. 607 00:28:09.519 --> 00:28:13.400 And they are struggling, I'm not gonna sit here and say, you. 608 00:28:13.359 --> 00:28:15.400 Know, if they just gave up their off a cono toast. 609 00:28:15.799 --> 00:28:16.559 They would be fun. 610 00:28:16.680 --> 00:28:19.400 It's they're living in an environment that none of us 611 00:28:19.480 --> 00:28:22.000 came up in. You know, we were talking about college 612 00:28:22.000 --> 00:28:24.359 costs yesterday and you guys are emailing my first semester 613 00:28:24.480 --> 00:28:29.319 costs seventy seven dollars. What that that is so beyond 614 00:28:29.640 --> 00:28:31.880 I mean, we're looking at colleges right now for my daughter. 615 00:28:32.839 --> 00:28:34.920 I'm looking and the first thing I look at is 616 00:28:34.920 --> 00:28:37.960 the overall cost of the college, right that's the first 617 00:28:38.200 --> 00:28:39.079 thing I check. 618 00:28:39.359 --> 00:28:43.839 How much does the school cost? And there are schools that, 619 00:28:44.000 --> 00:28:44.480 with a. 620 00:28:44.400 --> 00:28:49.119 Straight face, the tuition for an annual tuition is fifty 621 00:28:49.200 --> 00:28:53.240 thousand dollars. And these are not ivy League schools. It's 622 00:28:53.359 --> 00:28:55.400 insane what college casts now. 623 00:28:55.279 --> 00:28:59.000 And that's a year one year. It's one of the 624 00:28:59.039 --> 00:28:59.680 reasons she's. 625 00:28:59.559 --> 00:29:02.480 Looking to go to school in Europe because in Europe 626 00:29:02.519 --> 00:29:05.880 they subsidize our colleges so they're cheap, but even for foreigners. 627 00:29:06.680 --> 00:29:09.519 At what point do we sort of realize that we've 628 00:29:09.559 --> 00:29:13.200 created these monsters using third party payers and we've got 629 00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:14.599 to walk it back or nobody's going to be able 630 00:29:14.640 --> 00:29:18.279 to afford anything. If you want grandkids, this should concern 631 00:29:18.359 --> 00:29:21.759 you because your kids can't afford to have kids. That's 632 00:29:21.799 --> 00:29:24.640 the problem, and it's a big problem. We better figure 633 00:29:24.680 --> 00:29:28.480 it out. Okay, many you're comparing you know, Ohio and 634 00:29:28.960 --> 00:29:32.519 Colorado's cost of living. What about wages, which is a 635 00:29:32.640 --> 00:29:33.599 very fair question. 636 00:29:34.519 --> 00:29:35.480 So I went to the. 637 00:29:35.480 --> 00:29:39.920 Google machine and put in wages in Colorado versus Ohio. 638 00:29:40.599 --> 00:29:45.160 Colorado's wages are slightly higher. They run about four percent 639 00:29:45.359 --> 00:29:48.359 higher in Colorado than they do in Ohio. So we 640 00:29:48.440 --> 00:29:51.839 have nineteen point eight percent higher cost of living four 641 00:29:51.880 --> 00:29:56.400 percent higher average income. So you know, do the math 642 00:29:56.480 --> 00:29:59.039 on that. They do have a much lower minimum wage, 643 00:29:59.079 --> 00:30:01.359 which is why restaurants are still affordable. 644 00:30:02.759 --> 00:30:05.480 So yeah, and somebody said, if you work. 645 00:30:05.319 --> 00:30:08.200 At McDonald's, you make like ten dollars there versus eighteen 646 00:30:08.240 --> 00:30:12.519 bucks an hour, but everything else is so much more 647 00:30:12.599 --> 00:30:18.319 expensive that it eats up the extra money. I'm just saying, Mandy, 648 00:30:18.359 --> 00:30:20.519 what pill or drink is very effective to fall asleep? 649 00:30:20.559 --> 00:30:24.079 I feel like this is planted because I am now 650 00:30:24.200 --> 00:30:26.599 entering into a relationship with Blue Sky CBD. 651 00:30:27.000 --> 00:30:28.559 Dave Logan has endorsed them for years. 652 00:30:29.039 --> 00:30:30.960 Greg the owner of the company, heard me when I 653 00:30:31.039 --> 00:30:34.599 was having my terrible readjustment coming back from Japan, and 654 00:30:34.599 --> 00:30:37.079 I just was not sleeping at all, and he sent 655 00:30:37.160 --> 00:30:40.640 me some Blue Sky CBD sleep cells and they do 656 00:30:40.759 --> 00:30:44.319 not have THHC in them at all. They're not at 657 00:30:44.359 --> 00:30:48.359 all psycho active in that way. They're just CBD and 658 00:30:48.480 --> 00:30:54.200 CBN and holy crap, you guys, those things are amazing. 659 00:30:55.240 --> 00:30:59.000 I took them for like two nights and it completely took. 660 00:30:58.920 --> 00:31:01.119 Care of my of my think And by the way, 661 00:31:01.200 --> 00:31:03.200 I'll be entering, as I said, I'm maybe doing ads 662 00:31:03.200 --> 00:31:05.279 for them. That's how much I love them. I've been 663 00:31:05.319 --> 00:31:08.519 sending Greg my sleep scores for my watch, like, hey man, 664 00:31:08.559 --> 00:31:10.400 I've never gone over ninety before and I got a 665 00:31:10.480 --> 00:31:13.279 ninety four sleep score on my watch. If you don't 666 00:31:13.279 --> 00:31:14.720 have a fitness trector, you have no idea what I'm 667 00:31:14.720 --> 00:31:20.039 talking about. But that has been just an absolute game 668 00:31:20.119 --> 00:31:21.960 changer for me. And if you use the promo code Mandy, 669 00:31:22.039 --> 00:31:26.680 you get thirty percent off four forever anyway. Mandy's South 670 00:31:26.759 --> 00:31:29.240 Dakota School of Minds is still affordable and a great school, 671 00:31:29.759 --> 00:31:31.839 twenty two thousand per year, and my son is making 672 00:31:31.839 --> 00:31:34.359 six figures his first year out of school. He's a 673 00:31:34.400 --> 00:31:37.599 nuclear physicist working for a uranium mining company and loves 674 00:31:37.640 --> 00:31:40.839 it well The problem with School of Minds is. 675 00:31:40.799 --> 00:31:41.640 That you have to be. 676 00:31:43.240 --> 00:31:45.440 The right kind of person to go to School of Minds, 677 00:31:45.519 --> 00:31:48.920 meaning you have to have that hard science engineering sort 678 00:31:48.960 --> 00:31:51.400 of interest. A friend of mine, the way Neogiese Son 679 00:31:51.480 --> 00:31:54.200 is actually going to Minds right now because he's like 680 00:31:54.240 --> 00:31:57.440 a math genius. Not all kids are math geniuses, are 681 00:31:57.480 --> 00:32:00.200 engineeringly minded. And just look at what you just did. 682 00:32:00.440 --> 00:32:04.559 Twenty two thousand dollars per year. That's now considered affordable 683 00:32:05.279 --> 00:32:09.039 for college and for the person who just sent me 684 00:32:09.079 --> 00:32:12.319 this Mandy and other news. Bowchangles is now open in Pueblo. 685 00:32:12.599 --> 00:32:14.559 I'm not saying I'm taking a family field trip down 686 00:32:14.599 --> 00:32:17.920 to Pueblo this weekend just for that, but I might 687 00:32:17.960 --> 00:32:20.000 be taking a family field trip down to Pueblo just. 688 00:32:19.960 --> 00:32:21.440 For that is coming weekend. 689 00:32:21.880 --> 00:32:22.240 I don't know. 690 00:32:22.279 --> 00:32:23.119 I have to talk to Shock. 691 00:32:23.400 --> 00:32:24.319 Yeah, you have. 692 00:32:24.480 --> 00:32:27.079 You have two people you must invite, seeing as how 693 00:32:27.119 --> 00:32:29.119 one of them just messaged me saying when is Mandy 694 00:32:29.160 --> 00:32:30.200 doing this open now? 695 00:32:30.240 --> 00:32:32.160 And their last name might be Rodriguez. 696 00:32:32.200 --> 00:32:34.720 I'll let your mom, Yeah, I'll let your mom. 697 00:32:34.599 --> 00:32:38.519 Go that field trip. So better be at least exclusive. 698 00:32:38.680 --> 00:32:41.920 I reached out to Bojangles directly multiple times. And said, hey, 699 00:32:41.960 --> 00:32:43.799 this would be really fun. You know, we could do 700 00:32:43.839 --> 00:32:45.599 a field trip. We just need to sponsor it so 701 00:32:45.640 --> 00:32:47.680 we can give and they never responded, and that made 702 00:32:47.680 --> 00:32:48.279 me kind of mad. 703 00:32:48.759 --> 00:32:52.799 But their chicken is still delicious, still absolutely delicious. 704 00:32:52.839 --> 00:32:56.920 All Right, you guys, this has been this last segment 705 00:32:57.000 --> 00:32:59.240 kind of went all over the place. When we get back, though, 706 00:32:59.279 --> 00:33:01.440 we are going to be focus like a laser on 707 00:33:01.519 --> 00:33:06.720 Colorado's budget, the legislature, and the upcoming special session. Yes, 708 00:33:06.799 --> 00:33:08.680 we've got a special session that is probably going to 709 00:33:08.680 --> 00:33:11.279 be called anytime. We're going to talk to State Senator 710 00:33:11.319 --> 00:33:14.400 Barb Kirkmeyer about all of that stuff because out of 711 00:33:14.519 --> 00:33:16.480 and I'm not saying that there are not other people 712 00:33:16.559 --> 00:33:18.759 in the legislature who have their kind of finger on 713 00:33:18.799 --> 00:33:22.160 the pulse like Barb does, but dang, she's smart about it, 714 00:33:22.200 --> 00:33:24.279 and she knows so much, and she's been sounding the 715 00:33:24.319 --> 00:33:27.279 alarm for years about overspending and now all of those 716 00:33:27.279 --> 00:33:30.400 financial chickens have come home to roost. So the sleep 717 00:33:30.480 --> 00:33:33.240 cells are so expensive, says this texter. Her, guys, it's 718 00:33:33.240 --> 00:33:35.759 a buck seventy five a day, a buck. 719 00:33:35.640 --> 00:33:36.480 Seventy five a day. 720 00:33:36.720 --> 00:33:39.319 I worked out the math, okay, because I've heard this before. 721 00:33:39.680 --> 00:33:43.039 The reality is that for me, I would pay five 722 00:33:43.079 --> 00:33:45.319 dollars a day to be able to sleep this well. 723 00:33:45.960 --> 00:33:47.839 And you can get a little starter pack that costs 724 00:33:47.839 --> 00:33:49.519 twenty bucks to find out if they work for you. 725 00:33:50.799 --> 00:33:53.799 I all day long, I would recommend these. I don't 726 00:33:53.799 --> 00:33:56.720 care how much they cost. When something works really, really 727 00:33:56.759 --> 00:33:58.480 well for you, when you don't sleep well, and then 728 00:33:58.480 --> 00:34:00.279 all of a sudden it helps you sleep well, you 729 00:34:00.279 --> 00:34:03.279 would give your right arm to get that. And at Bucks, 730 00:34:03.319 --> 00:34:05.799 seventy five a day, just not that much, all right, kids. 731 00:34:05.799 --> 00:34:07.079 Barb Kirkmeyer coming up next. 732 00:34:07.839 --> 00:34:10.480 The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock 733 00:34:10.519 --> 00:34:12.000 Accident and Injury Lawyers. 734 00:34:12.679 --> 00:34:17.239 No, it's Mandy Connell and Dona. 735 00:34:18.519 --> 00:34:23.559 KOAM ninety one, FMA, God. 736 00:34:24.920 --> 00:34:31.039 Sat and the Nicety Us through three, Andy Connal, Keithy, 737 00:34:31.480 --> 00:34:32.760 No sad Thing. 738 00:34:33.880 --> 00:34:36.239 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show. 739 00:34:36.239 --> 00:34:39.199 I'm your host, Mandy Connell. That guy over there back from. 740 00:34:39.079 --> 00:34:41.159 His vacation is Anthony Rodriguez. 741 00:34:42.679 --> 00:34:44.239 And you when you me in the studio right now 742 00:34:44.280 --> 00:34:46.480 for the first time, she's never been in our digs before. 743 00:34:46.519 --> 00:34:48.360 I'm kind of excited to have you on the show. 744 00:34:48.800 --> 00:34:51.519 State Senator Barb Kirkmeyer. First of all, welcome in. 745 00:34:51.840 --> 00:34:53.719 Thank you, thanks for having me. This is great. 746 00:34:53.800 --> 00:34:57.039 Yeah, you were confused by the deeply blood red lobby, 747 00:34:57.679 --> 00:35:00.880 iron media, redecorated, and one to call a mix of 748 00:35:00.960 --> 00:35:02.039 hospital meets whorehouse. 749 00:35:02.119 --> 00:35:04.119 That's oh my god. Yeah, that's just me. I mean 750 00:35:04.159 --> 00:35:04.960 that's how I view it. 751 00:35:05.880 --> 00:35:09.000 First of all, Barb, how long have you been working 752 00:35:09.000 --> 00:35:10.440 on budgets in Colorado? 753 00:35:11.039 --> 00:35:13.360 Well, I was a county commissioner, so I had twenty 754 00:35:13.440 --> 00:35:15.599 years as a county commissioner on and off, and then 755 00:35:15.679 --> 00:35:17.920 I also worked for Governor Bill Owens and his cabinet, 756 00:35:17.920 --> 00:35:19.559 and I did the budget portion of it for the 757 00:35:19.599 --> 00:35:23.280 Department of Local Affairs, so pretty much about thirty years. 758 00:35:23.440 --> 00:35:25.079 I have different budgets all the way through. 759 00:35:25.199 --> 00:35:28.239 I'm not sure there's somebody in the legislature who has 760 00:35:28.360 --> 00:35:30.239 more budgetary experience than you do. 761 00:35:30.639 --> 00:35:31.239 Probably not. 762 00:35:32.000 --> 00:35:33.480 I would say no at this point because I've been 763 00:35:33.519 --> 00:35:35.840 on the Joint Budget Committee then for the state, which 764 00:35:35.920 --> 00:35:38.199 the Joint Budget Committee, we're the people who write the 765 00:35:38.239 --> 00:35:40.360 budget for the State of Colorado. There are six of us, 766 00:35:40.719 --> 00:35:43.199 and I just finished my third year being you know, 767 00:35:43.280 --> 00:35:45.320 third session of being on the Joint Budget Committee. 768 00:35:45.400 --> 00:35:47.320 What are some of the things that you've seen happen 769 00:35:47.639 --> 00:35:49.960 over the thirty years that you have been paying attention 770 00:35:50.000 --> 00:35:51.760 to and working on budgets in Colorado. 771 00:35:52.199 --> 00:35:54.920 So I'm amazed, especially at our budget right now in 772 00:35:54.960 --> 00:35:57.239 the state of Colorado. I mean, we had three years 773 00:35:57.239 --> 00:36:00.119 ago we had three point six billion dollars in surplus, 774 00:36:00.159 --> 00:36:02.159 you know, so the tabor surplus, right, and you know, 775 00:36:02.199 --> 00:36:04.159 the governor was handing out checks putting his name all 776 00:36:04.159 --> 00:36:06.960 over it during election year kind of thing, right, And 777 00:36:07.039 --> 00:36:08.760 now we're to the point of because of all the 778 00:36:08.800 --> 00:36:11.679 tax credits and different legislation that's been passed by my 779 00:36:11.760 --> 00:36:14.239 colleagues on the other side of the aisle, there won't 780 00:36:14.280 --> 00:36:17.320 be a tabor surplus here because of different tax credits 781 00:36:17.320 --> 00:36:19.519 and things of that nature. And granted there are people 782 00:36:19.559 --> 00:36:22.840 getting tax credits, not me, but the variety of people. 783 00:36:23.280 --> 00:36:26.119 Yeah, other people, the favored ones as I like to 784 00:36:26.119 --> 00:36:26.519 call them. 785 00:36:26.639 --> 00:36:29.519 After the legislative session, we're facing a special session. 786 00:36:29.519 --> 00:36:30.239 What is that about. 787 00:36:31.039 --> 00:36:33.519 I think it's going to be about the Democrats are 788 00:36:33.519 --> 00:36:37.400 looking at how to blame Trump for our tax, our 789 00:36:37.480 --> 00:36:39.559 tax and spend issues that we have here in this state, 790 00:36:39.679 --> 00:36:42.360 and the budget deficit that we have, you know, so 791 00:36:42.519 --> 00:36:44.280 if they can't blame Tabor, they want to try and 792 00:36:44.320 --> 00:36:46.639 blame Trump when they should actually just blame themselves. 793 00:36:46.679 --> 00:36:49.280 So what is the issue with our tax and spend? 794 00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.280 What have we done over the last few years? And 795 00:36:51.760 --> 00:36:54.119 when did it really ratchet up in your view, that 796 00:36:54.199 --> 00:36:57.159 we just started spending like drunken monkeys, although I hate 797 00:36:57.199 --> 00:36:58.280 to disparage drunken monkeys. 798 00:36:58.360 --> 00:37:00.000 Yeah, those four monkeys, Yeah, exactly. 799 00:37:00.559 --> 00:37:03.679 So I would say when it was first at least 800 00:37:03.679 --> 00:37:06.760 brought to my attention and going back and researching this 801 00:37:07.079 --> 00:37:08.960 March of twenty twenty one, we knew we were in 802 00:37:09.000 --> 00:37:10.400 what's called a structural deficit. 803 00:37:10.639 --> 00:37:12.199 So it's not like we're just overspending. 804 00:37:12.239 --> 00:37:14.719 We have continued to overspend year over year over year, 805 00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.239 and it's messing with the structure of our budget. 806 00:37:18.079 --> 00:37:20.199 And so it really happened with. 807 00:37:20.199 --> 00:37:22.960 All of those dollars that came in from the federal 808 00:37:23.000 --> 00:37:26.000 government during COVID, you know, the American Rescue Planned dollars. 809 00:37:26.159 --> 00:37:28.079 I mean, we're attacking billions that came in. 810 00:37:28.320 --> 00:37:31.440 Some went directly to the governor and to his departments 811 00:37:31.599 --> 00:37:34.559 like the Department of Education, Department of Human Services, Department 812 00:37:34.559 --> 00:37:37.760 of health Care Policy and Finance, Department of Health, and 813 00:37:38.000 --> 00:37:38.840 Public Environment. 814 00:37:39.559 --> 00:37:41.039 They all got direct distributions. 815 00:37:41.119 --> 00:37:44.440 There were counties, the five top counties in the state, 816 00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:47.039 you know, most populated counties in the state, they got 817 00:37:47.039 --> 00:37:47.880 a direct distribution. 818 00:37:48.440 --> 00:37:50.000 So there were moneies that went there. 819 00:37:50.079 --> 00:37:52.480 And then there were moneies that were appropriated through the 820 00:37:52.599 --> 00:37:55.679 legislative branch, through the Joint Budget Committee and the General Assembly. 821 00:37:56.119 --> 00:37:59.320 And those should have been thought of as one time funds. 822 00:37:59.400 --> 00:38:00.599 That's what I was going to ask you. 823 00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:04.480 So it sounds like they spent those moneys on recurring 824 00:38:04.639 --> 00:38:07.599 expenses and now that money's gone. Is that kind of 825 00:38:07.599 --> 00:38:09.760 the long and short of it that That's what I say. 826 00:38:09.800 --> 00:38:12.559 But my Democrat colleagues on the Joint Budget Committee say, 827 00:38:12.559 --> 00:38:14.199 oh no, no, that's not it. But I mean you 828 00:38:14.239 --> 00:38:17.920 can point to we created new departments, new offices, the 829 00:38:18.039 --> 00:38:20.679 Behavior Health Administration. I mean, they've had over a billion 830 00:38:20.719 --> 00:38:23.280 dollars in funding from you know, we call them ARPA 831 00:38:23.280 --> 00:38:26.199 funds American Rescue Funds, And I'm like, well, what's our 832 00:38:26.199 --> 00:38:27.039 return on investment? 833 00:38:27.119 --> 00:38:27.920 Like what have we done? 834 00:38:28.079 --> 00:38:30.920 You know, I mean, I'm not arguing that we don't 835 00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:33.920 have a behavior health you know, crisis, at least at 836 00:38:33.920 --> 00:38:34.800 one point in our state. 837 00:38:35.760 --> 00:38:37.880 But what have we done? Where's our return on investment? 838 00:38:38.000 --> 00:38:41.039 Like, what's the outcomes from all that money that's been spent? 839 00:38:41.360 --> 00:38:44.000 And and keep in mind, we created the Behavior Health Administration 840 00:38:44.400 --> 00:38:47.440 almost it's like a pseudo department. We couldn't create another 841 00:38:47.480 --> 00:38:50.199 department because we can only have twenty buyer constitution, but 842 00:38:50.400 --> 00:38:53.199 we created like another administration that acts. They've got a 843 00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:56.360 cabinet member. I mean, they're they're administrative director. 844 00:38:56.639 --> 00:38:58.960 Okay, yeah, if you just hit me with something that 845 00:38:59.039 --> 00:39:05.119 is so frustrating. Yes, the Colorado Democrats have shown again 846 00:39:05.320 --> 00:39:09.519 and again and again an absolute disregard for the letter 847 00:39:09.599 --> 00:39:12.719 of the law. And they if they've created another department 848 00:39:12.880 --> 00:39:16.960 without creating a department because they're constitutionally prohibited by doing it. 849 00:39:17.159 --> 00:39:19.599 But it looks like a department, and it walks like 850 00:39:19.639 --> 00:39:24.000 a department. It's a department. How what recourse does a 851 00:39:24.039 --> 00:39:25.239 person like me have? 852 00:39:25.719 --> 00:39:28.079 I mean, because the Colorado Supreme Court is full of idiots, 853 00:39:28.119 --> 00:39:29.960 you don't have to comment on that. That's my opinion. 854 00:39:30.440 --> 00:39:32.800 They're going to just rubber stamp anything that happens. There's 855 00:39:32.840 --> 00:39:36.320 like it's all out of control from stealing our tabor refunds. 856 00:39:36.360 --> 00:39:39.480 To redirect them to favored classes. There's so many things 857 00:39:39.679 --> 00:39:42.519 like that where they're basically like, oh, we see you Law, 858 00:39:42.719 --> 00:39:44.920 we see you Tabor, but we're going to go around 859 00:39:44.960 --> 00:39:47.880 you by calling everything a fee exactly. 860 00:39:47.920 --> 00:39:50.079 And the only recourse we have as citizens is to 861 00:39:50.440 --> 00:39:53.239 vote them out. We've got a change who we're voting for, 862 00:39:53.400 --> 00:39:55.280 and we've got to get rid of this one party 863 00:39:55.280 --> 00:39:58.199 control that seriously, is that there is It's hard to 864 00:39:58.199 --> 00:40:01.199 have a check in balance when the House, the Senate, 865 00:40:01.280 --> 00:40:04.320 and the Governor's office are all controlled by Democrats. 866 00:40:03.920 --> 00:40:07.719 Hopelessly control budget. I mean, people always get mad, they're like, 867 00:40:07.719 --> 00:40:10.559 why didn't a Republican And I'm like, they're so outnumbered 868 00:40:11.039 --> 00:40:14.440 that the fact that any Democrat gives lip service even 869 00:40:14.480 --> 00:40:17.679 to Republican needs is kind of remarkable because they don't 870 00:40:17.719 --> 00:40:18.000 have to. 871 00:40:18.159 --> 00:40:18.599 It's hard. 872 00:40:19.119 --> 00:40:20.239 You know, we're in the minority. 873 00:40:20.400 --> 00:40:23.159 So but being on the Joint Budget Committee, it's actually 874 00:40:23.159 --> 00:40:24.639 probably the best place to be if you're going to 875 00:40:24.679 --> 00:40:27.280 be in the minority, because again six members three or 876 00:40:27.280 --> 00:40:29.159 from the House three or from the Senate, the majority 877 00:40:29.159 --> 00:40:32.400 party gets to pick two. So four Democrats two Republicans, 878 00:40:32.719 --> 00:40:36.039 but can't be a Joint Budget Committee bill unless all 879 00:40:36.079 --> 00:40:38.880 six Joint Budget Committee members agree to it. Okay, Right, 880 00:40:39.159 --> 00:40:42.039 they can't have a vote on stuff going on in 881 00:40:42.039 --> 00:40:44.360 the budget, you know, trying to set the budget unless 882 00:40:44.400 --> 00:40:45.800 a member of the minority is there. 883 00:40:46.280 --> 00:40:47.880 So, you know what, we don't like things. 884 00:40:47.960 --> 00:40:51.320 I mean last year in the twenty fourth session, they 885 00:40:51.320 --> 00:40:53.039 were going down this path where they thought they could 886 00:40:53.039 --> 00:40:55.320 just roll the two Republicans on the committee. About eleven 887 00:40:55.320 --> 00:40:57.280 o'clock at night, I said, I'm done. I'm going home. 888 00:40:57.559 --> 00:40:59.079 And they're like, well, we haven't closed the budget. And 889 00:40:59.119 --> 00:41:01.880 I said, well, I'm done. I'm going home. You've been 890 00:41:01.920 --> 00:41:05.239 disrespectful to me. I'm going home. And Representative Taggard, who's 891 00:41:05.239 --> 00:41:07.239 the other Republican, he's from Grant Junction. 892 00:41:07.119 --> 00:41:09.159 And he's on the Joint Budget Committee. He got up 893 00:41:09.199 --> 00:41:09.920 and we both left. 894 00:41:10.719 --> 00:41:12.239 There you go, and that's the only way you can 895 00:41:12.280 --> 00:41:14.719 flet we'll come back tomorrow. 896 00:41:14.880 --> 00:41:17.519 Yeah, let's see how you feel tomorrow, like you know, 897 00:41:17.559 --> 00:41:20.440 and how are Yeah, I mean I got to call 898 00:41:20.480 --> 00:41:20.920 at six. 899 00:41:20.800 --> 00:41:21.760 In the morning from the chair. 900 00:41:21.960 --> 00:41:24.079 Okay, then making sure you're coming in life day. 901 00:41:24.119 --> 00:41:26.320 Yeah, Like, well, what can we do to get everybody 902 00:41:26.360 --> 00:41:27.960 back to the table. It's like, well, first of all, 903 00:41:27.960 --> 00:41:30.159 you can be respectful, Like we weren't rolling you. I 904 00:41:30.159 --> 00:41:31.639 thought we were all working together, and then all of 905 00:41:31.679 --> 00:41:34.840 a sudden, you're just passing resolution or passing motions and 906 00:41:35.280 --> 00:41:37.679 increasing our budget and not even thinking about things, things 907 00:41:37.679 --> 00:41:39.960 that we thought we'd already voted on, and they're revoting 908 00:41:40.000 --> 00:41:41.280 on them and changing them around. 909 00:41:41.280 --> 00:41:42.239 I said, that's just rude. 910 00:41:42.280 --> 00:41:44.760 So yeah, you know, here's what I have to have now, 911 00:41:44.840 --> 00:41:45.599 and I had a list. 912 00:41:45.960 --> 00:41:49.719 Oh good, yeah good, I'm proud of you, bar Nice. 913 00:41:49.800 --> 00:41:51.960 Here, let's talk about Medicaid for a moment, because this 914 00:41:52.000 --> 00:41:55.280 has been the big boogeyman. This, apparently, based on what 915 00:41:55.360 --> 00:41:58.280 I'm seeing from national Democrats, is going to be the 916 00:41:58.320 --> 00:42:01.320 thing that they think they're finally got the thing, the 917 00:42:01.360 --> 00:42:04.199 hammer Trump with that they've been desperately searching for the thing. 918 00:42:04.800 --> 00:42:07.039 But the reality is here in Colorado. And I love 919 00:42:07.119 --> 00:42:09.400 doing this on X This is my favorite thing when 920 00:42:09.440 --> 00:42:11.800 I see Democrats talking about the fact that you know, 921 00:42:11.840 --> 00:42:14.679 no I legal immigrant is on Medicaid and I'm like, oh, contreire. 922 00:42:14.840 --> 00:42:17.880 We have an entire department that has illlegal immigrants on Medicaid. 923 00:42:17.920 --> 00:42:20.559 What is going to happen with Medicaid and Colorado? Are 924 00:42:20.599 --> 00:42:22.320 they going to roll it back to the constraints that 925 00:42:22.360 --> 00:42:26.360 it was originally intended to be in elderly people, pregnant women, 926 00:42:26.800 --> 00:42:27.719 really poor people. 927 00:42:27.760 --> 00:42:29.079 That's what medicaid is designed for. 928 00:42:30.599 --> 00:42:32.280 I don't know that they're actually going to roll it back, 929 00:42:32.320 --> 00:42:36.000 and I think it's really kind of I've been trying 930 00:42:36.000 --> 00:42:38.239 to follow it as best as I can, but I'm 931 00:42:38.239 --> 00:42:41.840 confused as well because the eligibility for medicaid to be 932 00:42:41.920 --> 00:42:46.199 on Medicaid, which is health insurance, right, the eligibility criteria 933 00:42:46.360 --> 00:42:48.840 are not really changing. The only thing that is changing 934 00:42:48.920 --> 00:42:53.880 is they're adding additional eligibility criteria for those able bodied. 935 00:42:53.880 --> 00:42:56.559 And I want everybody to think about it. Able bodied 936 00:42:56.679 --> 00:43:01.559 people who can work without dependence from nineteen to sixty 937 00:43:01.559 --> 00:43:05.159 four years of age that are able to work, able bodied, 938 00:43:05.519 --> 00:43:09.880 have no children are un Medicaid. Yeah, and they're saying, look, 939 00:43:10.559 --> 00:43:12.199 you want to be on Medicaid, We're gonna put work 940 00:43:12.199 --> 00:43:15.440 requirements on. You're gonna have to at least work part 941 00:43:15.480 --> 00:43:19.559 time eighty hours a month, or volunteer or be in school. 942 00:43:20.119 --> 00:43:22.679 Right, that's gonna be the additional criteria. 943 00:43:22.800 --> 00:43:25.760 There's been I haven't seen anything, and I best you know, 944 00:43:25.840 --> 00:43:29.280 folks who implement medicaid, you know, at the local level, 945 00:43:29.559 --> 00:43:31.679 whether it's a health center or behavior health center or 946 00:43:31.679 --> 00:43:34.280 something of that nature, or county, like, did they change 947 00:43:34.320 --> 00:43:36.760 the Iljebilli requirements because I'm confused here, and the answer 948 00:43:36.800 --> 00:43:39.559 is no other than putting in a work requirement, which 949 00:43:39.599 --> 00:43:42.679 is no different than what happened during President Clinton, a 950 00:43:42.719 --> 00:43:47.760 Democrat who rechanged how we do welfare in the in 951 00:43:47.800 --> 00:43:52.119 the United States and created temporary aid to needy families. 952 00:43:52.119 --> 00:43:55.519 It's called TANA for short, but temporary aid was a deal. 953 00:43:55.639 --> 00:43:57.880 He put in time clocks. There was a two year 954 00:43:57.960 --> 00:44:00.840 time clock and then a five year life time clock. Right, 955 00:44:01.199 --> 00:44:04.400 and work participation rates. You either had to be in 956 00:44:04.440 --> 00:44:05.760 school or you had to have. 957 00:44:05.719 --> 00:44:08.519 A job, right bart I interviewed a woman when I 958 00:44:08.519 --> 00:44:11.039 first got my show, So this is like two thousand 959 00:44:11.039 --> 00:44:14.039 and five, two thousand and six, and I was interviewing 960 00:44:14.039 --> 00:44:16.719 her about something else. She was working with an organization 961 00:44:16.760 --> 00:44:19.519 that I was talking to, and I had been talking 962 00:44:19.599 --> 00:44:22.239 before that about welfare reform just in general, and she 963 00:44:22.360 --> 00:44:23.960 came on the show to talk about this other thing 964 00:44:24.039 --> 00:44:26.000 and said, I was listening to what you said. This 965 00:44:26.079 --> 00:44:28.119 was in Southwest Florida. She said, I want to tell 966 00:44:28.119 --> 00:44:30.239 you my story. She said, I grew up. I was 967 00:44:30.280 --> 00:44:34.079 a multi generational welfare family recipient. Her grandmother had been 968 00:44:34.079 --> 00:44:36.480 on welfare, her mother was on welfare. She was on welfare. 969 00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:40.400 And when Bill Clinton passed those requirements, she was part 970 00:44:40.400 --> 00:44:42.000 of that group that said you got to go to work. 971 00:44:42.039 --> 00:44:43.719 Well, she got a job, and guess what happened. 972 00:44:44.039 --> 00:44:46.559 She liked working, She had enjoyed it, she was good 973 00:44:46.559 --> 00:44:48.159 at it, she felt good about her and then when 974 00:44:48.199 --> 00:44:52.079 she got a promotion, she had to make the choice 975 00:44:52.280 --> 00:44:55.920 of giving up some of her welfare benefits to move up. 976 00:44:56.000 --> 00:44:57.559 And she chose to move up, and she said it 977 00:44:57.559 --> 00:44:59.199 was the greatest thing in my entire life. 978 00:44:59.280 --> 00:45:01.679 And I thought that was like people like that. 979 00:45:01.800 --> 00:45:04.719 No one talks about that, the success stories, And in 980 00:45:04.760 --> 00:45:07.639 all honesty, I think the vast majority of the people 981 00:45:07.719 --> 00:45:09.400 and I don't know, do we know the number of 982 00:45:09.440 --> 00:45:12.800 how many people in Colorado don't meet any of those 983 00:45:12.840 --> 00:45:16.039 requirements now, because the notion that everybody's going to be 984 00:45:16.039 --> 00:45:19.320 thrown off Medicaid is only accurate if none of these 985 00:45:19.360 --> 00:45:20.679 people are working. 986 00:45:20.480 --> 00:45:23.039 Caring for a loved one, you know, in school, or 987 00:45:23.079 --> 00:45:25.559 any of that. So I who's going to actually get 988 00:45:25.639 --> 00:45:26.239 kicked off. 989 00:45:26.039 --> 00:45:30.039 Here exactly, and so they're just supposing kind of thing. 990 00:45:30.119 --> 00:45:32.920 And I think the other thing is read the fine print. 991 00:45:33.119 --> 00:45:35.199 When we were at the Joint Budget Committee a couple 992 00:45:35.239 --> 00:45:38.559 of weeks ago and the Director of Office and State 993 00:45:38.599 --> 00:45:42.039 Planning Budget for the Governor, Director Farandino, was in, they're 994 00:45:42.039 --> 00:45:44.000 talking about the number of people who won't receive health 995 00:45:44.039 --> 00:45:46.400 who won't receive health care benefits. And at that time, 996 00:45:46.840 --> 00:45:50.159 the bill, the federal bill, had things in there about 997 00:45:50.239 --> 00:45:53.239 you know, undocumented immigrants that you couldn't fund them kind 998 00:45:53.280 --> 00:45:56.400 of thing, and it would things would change, and it 999 00:45:56.480 --> 00:45:59.599 wasn't people getting pushed off Medicaid. It was people who 1000 00:45:59.639 --> 00:46:03.400 weren't going to get healthcare because we have Medicaid, which 1001 00:46:03.559 --> 00:46:05.639 I guess I would probably argue that people who are 1002 00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:07.360 not supposed to be on Medicaid or not on Medicaid. 1003 00:46:07.400 --> 00:46:09.440 I'm sure there are some like we had, you know, 1004 00:46:09.480 --> 00:46:12.360 seven million dollars worth of people have already been dead 1005 00:46:12.400 --> 00:46:14.719 for a while that we're still getting Medicaid benefits. But 1006 00:46:15.440 --> 00:46:17.800 we have what we call Medicaid like programs that the 1007 00:46:17.840 --> 00:46:21.760 state funds, and they're state funded programs without any federal dollars. 1008 00:46:21.960 --> 00:46:22.840 Ah. 1009 00:46:22.880 --> 00:46:25.480 But I mean it stands to reason, at some point, 1010 00:46:25.559 --> 00:46:28.960 if we start kicking people off Medicaid because federal reimbursements drop, 1011 00:46:30.000 --> 00:46:33.880 I would hope that they would prioritize citizens over non citizens. 1012 00:46:33.639 --> 00:46:35.760 That's just, in my mind, the way it should be. 1013 00:46:36.159 --> 00:46:39.559 And that's exactly how Medicaid is. So Medicaid is only 1014 00:46:39.599 --> 00:46:43.000 for US citizens. Non citizens are not supposed to be 1015 00:46:43.039 --> 00:46:46.079 on Medicaid. They are, that would be a problem. So 1016 00:46:46.760 --> 00:46:51.119 it's and again, they aren't kicking anyone off the eligibility requirements, at. 1017 00:46:51.119 --> 00:46:52.320 Least as far as I understand it. 1018 00:46:52.360 --> 00:46:55.960 The eligibility requirements stay the same, with the exception of 1019 00:46:56.039 --> 00:46:59.239 what is called the expansion population that happened during Obamacare. 1020 00:47:00.079 --> 00:47:02.440 In that part, that's what nobody talks about, right. 1021 00:47:02.360 --> 00:47:05.599 That's the able bodied individuals nineteen to sixty four with 1022 00:47:05.679 --> 00:47:08.679 no dependents. Right, they're going to have to go work 1023 00:47:09.480 --> 00:47:12.800 for eighty hours a month, so part time, volunteer, or. 1024 00:47:12.840 --> 00:47:13.440 Be in school. 1025 00:47:13.880 --> 00:47:16.559 I got to tell you I disagree with the expansion 1026 00:47:16.559 --> 00:47:19.800 of Medicaid for a couple of reasons. One, it stretches 1027 00:47:19.840 --> 00:47:24.039 the resources of the program that is designed for elderly people, 1028 00:47:24.159 --> 00:47:27.719 for pregnant women, for extremely poor people and her children. 1029 00:47:28.079 --> 00:47:31.039 So we've basically created a situation where wait times have 1030 00:47:31.119 --> 00:47:35.760 gone up. There's a perverse incentive to see those healthy 1031 00:47:35.760 --> 00:47:38.199 people because they get reimbursed at a higher rate, which 1032 00:47:38.280 --> 00:47:42.719 I still don't understand how that's possible. But ultimately a 1033 00:47:42.760 --> 00:47:45.199 big problem seems to me that the hotel of the 1034 00:47:45.639 --> 00:47:49.360 hospital provider fees have been struck down by the big 1035 00:47:49.400 --> 00:47:52.599 beautiful bill. They've been used to pad the bills to 1036 00:47:52.639 --> 00:47:56.199 the federal government by states, not just Colorado, but by 1037 00:47:56.239 --> 00:47:59.199 other states to just basically tack on a charge, and 1038 00:47:59.239 --> 00:48:01.800 now the federal government says we're not reimbursing them. The 1039 00:48:01.840 --> 00:48:04.880 big issue for me seems that we need to worry 1040 00:48:04.920 --> 00:48:05.559 about some of. 1041 00:48:05.480 --> 00:48:08.239 Our rural health care providers and what does that look like. 1042 00:48:08.519 --> 00:48:10.159 We need to look, we need to worry about all 1043 00:48:10.199 --> 00:48:13.360 of our Medicaid providers. And in fact, for forever, our 1044 00:48:13.440 --> 00:48:16.039 provider rate increase, you know, for you know, to pay 1045 00:48:16.079 --> 00:48:20.840 them and reimburse them has never never worked with inflation. 1046 00:48:20.960 --> 00:48:23.559 It's never increased at the same rate of inflation. So 1047 00:48:23.880 --> 00:48:25.559 in the last year, and here's the thing that I 1048 00:48:25.639 --> 00:48:30.880 just find so ironic and hypocritical that my Democrat colleagues, 1049 00:48:30.920 --> 00:48:34.719 including the governor of this state have been chastising the 1050 00:48:34.760 --> 00:48:36.159 federal government for cutting medicaid. 1051 00:48:36.280 --> 00:48:38.920 You want to know who cut medicaid, Governor Polus. 1052 00:48:39.199 --> 00:48:41.719 He came in in his budget request just even this year, 1053 00:48:41.840 --> 00:48:44.199 but even last year, in the previous year. All three 1054 00:48:44.280 --> 00:48:46.679 years that I have been on the Joint Budget Committee 1055 00:48:46.719 --> 00:48:52.079 and seeing the governor's budget requests, he never increases the Medicaid. 1056 00:48:51.599 --> 00:48:53.559 Provider rate up to inflation. 1057 00:48:54.360 --> 00:48:57.840 Well, and Medicaid reimbursal rates are even lower than Medicare, 1058 00:48:57.960 --> 00:49:02.239 which are lower, yes, than the rega market exactly exactly. 1059 00:49:02.360 --> 00:49:04.519 And so I mean my first year on the Joint 1060 00:49:04.559 --> 00:49:07.599 Budget Committee, I fought like heck with Senator Zenzinger, who 1061 00:49:07.639 --> 00:49:10.760 is a Democrat from Marvada, she's now a county commissioner, 1062 00:49:11.000 --> 00:49:11.239 and we. 1063 00:49:11.199 --> 00:49:12.280 Got it up to three percent. 1064 00:49:13.199 --> 00:49:13.440 Right. 1065 00:49:13.920 --> 00:49:15.559 Last year I had it up to two and a 1066 00:49:15.599 --> 00:49:18.039 half percent. So in the twenty four session, had it 1067 00:49:18.079 --> 00:49:19.960 up to two and a half percent increase in a 1068 00:49:19.960 --> 00:49:24.559 time when inflation was five percent, right, so we're underfunding it, right. 1069 00:49:24.559 --> 00:49:25.880 I get it up to two and a half percent. 1070 00:49:25.920 --> 00:49:27.880 In the final hours, we had to knock it down 1071 00:49:27.920 --> 00:49:29.880 to two percent, and I. 1072 00:49:29.840 --> 00:49:30.480 Didn't have the votes. 1073 00:49:30.559 --> 00:49:33.719 What people need to understand is that makes it less likely, 1074 00:49:33.920 --> 00:49:37.440 especially for specialist. And I realized this many many years ago. 1075 00:49:38.000 --> 00:49:40.000 I was working with a friend of mine who needed 1076 00:49:40.039 --> 00:49:44.199 a pediatric neurologist and she was on Medicaid. It took 1077 00:49:44.280 --> 00:49:48.199 us nine months to even find a practice that was 1078 00:49:48.239 --> 00:49:50.559 one hundred and fifty miles away that would take a 1079 00:49:50.559 --> 00:49:51.079 new patient. 1080 00:49:51.239 --> 00:49:51.679 Exactly. 1081 00:49:51.760 --> 00:49:54.559 That is the kind of stress that we're putting on Medicaid. 1082 00:49:54.559 --> 00:49:56.480 The more people that are on it, you have this 1083 00:49:56.639 --> 00:50:00.159 dwindling pool of providers because they're underpaid for their services, 1084 00:50:00.400 --> 00:50:04.320 and god forbid, you have a serious illness because getting 1085 00:50:04.320 --> 00:50:07.039 to see a specialist, getting into see a specialist can 1086 00:50:07.079 --> 00:50:08.199 be almost impossible. 1087 00:50:08.280 --> 00:50:09.599 So all of these things. 1088 00:50:09.599 --> 00:50:11.920 You can't look at it as just well, these people 1089 00:50:11.920 --> 00:50:15.360 need healthcare coverage, Okay, great, they are probably going to 1090 00:50:15.400 --> 00:50:19.119 be well subsidized on the Obamacare market. There are subsidies 1091 00:50:19.119 --> 00:50:20.840 still available on the Obamacare market. 1092 00:50:20.880 --> 00:50:22.599 Absolutely, and perhaps they should. 1093 00:50:22.360 --> 00:50:24.079 Be picking up more of their own more of their 1094 00:50:24.119 --> 00:50:25.400 own costs. 1095 00:50:25.440 --> 00:50:29.440 Absolutely, But the reality is this, again, Democrats in the 1096 00:50:29.480 --> 00:50:31.599 state want to keep blaming Trump. They want to blame 1097 00:50:31.679 --> 00:50:34.559 the Big Bill for all of our problems. And we've 1098 00:50:34.559 --> 00:50:36.119 had a governor that has come in for at least 1099 00:50:36.159 --> 00:50:37.719 the last three years. I can probably go back and 1100 00:50:37.760 --> 00:50:39.719 research and know that it's been longer than that, but 1101 00:50:39.760 --> 00:50:41.760 for at least the last three years has come in 1102 00:50:41.840 --> 00:50:45.440 and shortchanged Medicaid providers after year after year. 1103 00:50:45.719 --> 00:50:46.840 That creates a problem. 1104 00:50:47.039 --> 00:50:49.559 I believe our healthcare infrastructure system in the state we 1105 00:50:49.599 --> 00:50:53.239 are in crisis mode. We have twenty five counties, twenty 1106 00:50:53.280 --> 00:50:57.239 five counties with maternal health care deserts and it's growing. 1107 00:50:57.800 --> 00:51:00.000 So no place to have a baby in twenty five 1108 00:51:00.159 --> 00:51:02.639 of our royal counties. And what did the governor do 1109 00:51:02.639 --> 00:51:05.280 in his budget request last November cut rural healthcare? 1110 00:51:05.719 --> 00:51:07.239 Well, he doesn't care about the rural areas. 1111 00:51:07.280 --> 00:51:09.159 I mean, I don't mean to be I don't mean 1112 00:51:09.199 --> 00:51:12.000 to be so flippant about that, but deeds, not words, 1113 00:51:12.440 --> 00:51:15.320 and deeds show that this governor does not care about 1114 00:51:15.440 --> 00:51:16.400 rural Coloraden's. 1115 00:51:16.440 --> 00:51:17.079 He really doesn't. 1116 00:51:17.119 --> 00:51:17.679 It's lacking. 1117 00:51:17.880 --> 00:51:20.880 Yeah, exactly right, and it's shameful, it really is. But 1118 00:51:20.880 --> 00:51:22.559 they're not going to vote for him, so he doesn't care. 1119 00:51:23.159 --> 00:51:25.519 I've got a bunch of questions when we're Senator Barb 1120 00:51:25.639 --> 00:51:28.239 Kirkmeyer on the text line, and I want to ask 1121 00:51:28.639 --> 00:51:31.480 we're talking about the special session to cut spending. Where 1122 00:51:31.519 --> 00:51:34.000 do you see those cuts coming? Where are the most 1123 00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:36.480 obvious places, Because here's what we're going to hear. We're 1124 00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:39.039 going to hear we have to cut education, and we 1125 00:51:39.239 --> 00:51:42.360 have to cut firefighters and police and all. 1126 00:51:42.239 --> 00:51:44.920 Of the things you love. They all have to go away. 1127 00:51:44.719 --> 00:51:46.960 Because God forbid, we cut back on some of the 1128 00:51:46.960 --> 00:51:47.920 people we've hired. 1129 00:51:48.480 --> 00:51:49.519 We're going to talk about that. 1130 00:51:49.599 --> 00:51:51.280 But I did get this question that I wanted to 1131 00:51:51.320 --> 00:51:53.960 jump into really quickly because I think it's an easy one. 1132 00:51:54.360 --> 00:51:58.280 Haven't there been seven thousand or so new state jobs 1133 00:51:58.360 --> 00:52:02.519 created since Polas took office with PARA that creates. 1134 00:52:02.159 --> 00:52:05.000 A huge long term liability. Is that accurate? 1135 00:52:05.239 --> 00:52:09.119 Yes, for the last seven years, six years. I know 1136 00:52:09.159 --> 00:52:11.840 because from twenty five backs, so the last six years, 1137 00:52:11.920 --> 00:52:14.480 year over year, we've increased by more than one thousand 1138 00:52:15.440 --> 00:52:20.159 employees full time equivalent employees FTEs in state government or 1139 00:52:20.280 --> 00:52:23.599 we're zeroing in. We're getting close to having seventy over 1140 00:52:23.639 --> 00:52:24.639 seventy thousand. 1141 00:52:24.400 --> 00:52:25.679 Employees in state government. 1142 00:52:25.800 --> 00:52:26.039 Wow. 1143 00:52:26.039 --> 00:52:29.400 Now, granted a huge chunk of those are in higher education, 1144 00:52:29.719 --> 00:52:32.880 but just even in the executive branch, it's about six 1145 00:52:32.960 --> 00:52:37.079 to seven hundred a year. But we have increased year 1146 00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:41.639 over year year administrations have increased, you know, eighty four 1147 00:52:41.679 --> 00:52:44.480 percent here, thirty six percent here, you know, and that's 1148 00:52:44.480 --> 00:52:46.760 adjusted for inflation. I mean, over the course of the 1149 00:52:46.840 --> 00:52:49.360 last six years, they should have increased by eleven point 1150 00:52:49.599 --> 00:52:52.440 three percent eleven point six percent. Don't quote me exactly 1151 00:52:52.480 --> 00:52:55.400 on that anyone, but somewhere around eleven point three to 1152 00:52:55.440 --> 00:52:58.440 six percent somewhere in that area. But we've had departments, 1153 00:52:58.440 --> 00:53:02.079 almost every department, including the judicial branch and the other 1154 00:53:02.119 --> 00:53:05.000 elected officials of their departments have increased by way more 1155 00:53:05.039 --> 00:53:07.079 than that, almost all of them. 1156 00:53:07.119 --> 00:53:07.599 Thank god. 1157 00:53:07.599 --> 00:53:10.119 The Democrats are focused like a laser on saving us money. 1158 00:53:10.119 --> 00:53:10.519 Barbs. 1159 00:53:10.519 --> 00:53:12.960 They told me last election cycle. Can you imagine how 1160 00:53:13.000 --> 00:53:15.000 bad things would be if they hadn't. I've got a 1161 00:53:15.039 --> 00:53:18.320 bunch of text messages. We're going to talk about this. 1162 00:53:18.400 --> 00:53:21.559 If you have questions about going forward, we'll talk about 1163 00:53:21.599 --> 00:53:24.920 where you see the most likely places that we can 1164 00:53:25.159 --> 00:53:27.239 shrink the size of government back into some kind of 1165 00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:30.400 manageable space. We'll do that next with Senator Barb Kirkmeyer. 1166 00:53:30.440 --> 00:53:33.480 Keep it right here on KOA. Barb Kirkmeyer State Senator 1167 00:53:33.519 --> 00:53:35.800 Barb Kirkmeyer in the studio with us. Now, she's like 1168 00:53:36.239 --> 00:53:38.239 she knows about the budget. How much has the budget 1169 00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:41.320 grown in the last ten years? Just ballpark me. 1170 00:53:43.519 --> 00:53:46.039 Man, Now you stumped me on that question because I 1171 00:53:46.079 --> 00:53:48.800 wasn't there ten years ago. And it's hard because when 1172 00:53:48.800 --> 00:53:50.800 people talk about the budget, you know, we have a 1173 00:53:50.840 --> 00:53:54.519 forty four billion dollar budget, but that's not all general fund. 1174 00:53:54.599 --> 00:53:56.679 So general fun is the revenue that comes in from 1175 00:53:56.719 --> 00:53:59.280 income tax and sales tax. The state does not collect 1176 00:53:59.280 --> 00:54:01.679 property tax, so that's where the revenue comes in. And 1177 00:54:01.679 --> 00:54:04.039 then we have federal dollars that come in, and then 1178 00:54:04.039 --> 00:54:06.840 we have cash funds, most of which are like fees 1179 00:54:06.880 --> 00:54:08.079 that are paid, you know, when you go to the 1180 00:54:08.079 --> 00:54:09.639 motor vehicle office and you pay that. 1181 00:54:09.599 --> 00:54:12.440 Fee when you need a tax that they called the fee. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, 1182 00:54:12.440 --> 00:54:13.400 I'm just going to clarify. 1183 00:54:13.480 --> 00:54:16.840 But anyways, So our general fund operating budget, which is 1184 00:54:16.920 --> 00:54:19.199 when I talk about that, we're like this year going 1185 00:54:19.239 --> 00:54:21.280 into this next year seven hundred million. In the whole, 1186 00:54:21.840 --> 00:54:24.960 it's about eighteen point five billion, Okay, And so I 1187 00:54:25.000 --> 00:54:25.880 don't know what it was. 1188 00:54:25.760 --> 00:54:27.440 Ten years ago. I'm sorry, I'll find out. 1189 00:54:27.480 --> 00:54:28.000 I'll let you know. 1190 00:54:28.079 --> 00:54:29.920 No, I'm just kidious because I know that it's been 1191 00:54:29.920 --> 00:54:32.840 pretty steady growth overall, and how much the State of 1192 00:54:32.880 --> 00:54:35.480 Colorado spends with all of the federal money and all 1193 00:54:35.519 --> 00:54:36.159 of that stuff. 1194 00:54:36.320 --> 00:54:37.079 So let's talk. 1195 00:54:36.920 --> 00:54:40.320 About you got a special session coming up, and where 1196 00:54:40.360 --> 00:54:44.519 are the most likely areas that will need to be 1197 00:54:44.639 --> 00:54:46.800 cut to make up what's the difference that we're looking 1198 00:54:46.840 --> 00:54:47.360 at right now? 1199 00:54:47.519 --> 00:54:50.239 Right now, we're at about a seven hundred million dollar deficit, 1200 00:54:50.400 --> 00:54:53.079 you know, pocket change, Yeah, going into the next budget year, 1201 00:54:53.119 --> 00:54:54.760 and so some of that will be we'll deal with 1202 00:54:54.760 --> 00:54:56.119 that in this current budget year. 1203 00:54:56.360 --> 00:54:59.280 What obviously, we're not going to unwind all of the 1204 00:54:59.320 --> 00:55:02.639 new stuff that we created, those new departments that are departments. 1205 00:55:03.119 --> 00:55:04.960 So where is this money going to come from? 1206 00:55:05.079 --> 00:55:06.800 So, first of all, I don't think the special session 1207 00:55:06.880 --> 00:55:07.920 is going to be about cuts. 1208 00:55:08.639 --> 00:55:10.519 What you think it's going to be about raising taxes? 1209 00:55:10.679 --> 00:55:16.119 Yes, yes, well let's talk about that for just a second, 1210 00:55:16.159 --> 00:55:19.320 because I just realized, thanks to one of your tweets, 1211 00:55:19.719 --> 00:55:23.280 that the State of Colorado preemptively wanted to make sure 1212 00:55:23.440 --> 00:55:25.480 that you were not going to get the benefit of 1213 00:55:25.519 --> 00:55:28.679 a break on overtime. And now the State of Colorado 1214 00:55:28.840 --> 00:55:31.599 is going to include your non taxable overtime that the 1215 00:55:31.639 --> 00:55:35.000 federal government isn't going to attack in your overall adjusted 1216 00:55:35.000 --> 00:55:35.960 gross income. 1217 00:55:35.760 --> 00:55:36.920 So they can tax it. 1218 00:55:37.360 --> 00:55:39.880 And what's hilarious about this is people on the left 1219 00:55:40.239 --> 00:55:43.440 online are telling me, well, that's not a tax increase. 1220 00:55:43.639 --> 00:55:45.800 Your overtime was tax last year. It's just going to 1221 00:55:45.840 --> 00:55:48.760 be tax this year when the federal government is going 1222 00:55:48.760 --> 00:55:51.320 to lower your taxes, but the state of Colorado takes 1223 00:55:51.320 --> 00:55:53.320 measures to then rap them to. 1224 00:55:53.360 --> 00:55:55.559 Add it back on. Correct, that would be a change 1225 00:55:55.559 --> 00:55:58.840 in tax policy. That is a tax increase, Yes, it is. 1226 00:55:58.920 --> 00:56:02.400 What are what else are they looking at? Taxing? I 1227 00:56:02.400 --> 00:56:04.079 think they want to look at that. One of the 1228 00:56:04.119 --> 00:56:05.519 other things that needs to look at is some of 1229 00:56:05.559 --> 00:56:08.960 the tax credits because they have a trigger that happens 1230 00:56:09.000 --> 00:56:11.559 in December and we need they need to be fixed 1231 00:56:11.599 --> 00:56:14.559 because if they're not fixed, we will have to basically 1232 00:56:14.599 --> 00:56:17.480 dip into our general fund operating budget to pay for 1233 00:56:17.519 --> 00:56:21.239 the homestead exemption. You know that senior homestead exemption. We'll 1234 00:56:21.239 --> 00:56:22.840 have to dip into that to pay for it. 1235 00:56:22.800 --> 00:56:25.079 In this current budget year, which. 1236 00:56:24.920 --> 00:56:26.840 Will cause us about I think it was a seventy 1237 00:56:26.880 --> 00:56:29.639 one again, don't quote me places, but around seventy to 1238 00:56:29.679 --> 00:56:33.440 seventy five million dollar hit to our budget, adding on 1239 00:56:33.559 --> 00:56:36.199 and making part of that seven hundred million dollar deficit 1240 00:56:36.239 --> 00:56:36.519 that we. 1241 00:56:36.519 --> 00:56:39.320 Have, so they're talking about perhaps not. 1242 00:56:39.519 --> 00:56:42.719 Having perhaps maybe cutting it, cutting it back so that 1243 00:56:42.760 --> 00:56:45.679 we don't have to pay general fund. So we use 1244 00:56:46.519 --> 00:56:48.159 for the Homestead Exemption Act. 1245 00:56:48.079 --> 00:56:49.159 We use our tabor. 1246 00:56:49.400 --> 00:56:52.360 It's a taber refund mechanism to pay for the Homestead 1247 00:56:52.400 --> 00:56:55.320 Exemption Act, you know. For the senior property tax exemptions, 1248 00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:58.320 you know, and the military exemptions that we have in there, 1249 00:56:58.559 --> 00:57:00.400 we pay for those out of tabers plus. 1250 00:57:00.400 --> 00:57:01.159 And that's allowed. 1251 00:57:01.519 --> 00:57:03.440 And in fact, some of us would argue that it 1252 00:57:03.440 --> 00:57:05.559 even kind of states that in the constitution, it's not 1253 00:57:05.599 --> 00:57:07.519 real black and white, but we could we could probably 1254 00:57:07.639 --> 00:57:10.199 argue that. So in the last year, there's been a 1255 00:57:10.199 --> 00:57:13.000 bunch of tax credits created. One of them was the 1256 00:57:13.039 --> 00:57:16.400 earned income tax Credit. So anyone earning lesson I think 1257 00:57:16.400 --> 00:57:19.719 it's sixty three thy six hundred somewhere in there, matches 1258 00:57:19.719 --> 00:57:22.440 what the federal government is doing on earning income tax credit. 1259 00:57:22.639 --> 00:57:24.840 They get a tax credit on their state income tax. 1260 00:57:25.079 --> 00:57:27.480 And then there's also i call it the Family Childcare 1261 00:57:27.960 --> 00:57:28.639 Tax Credit. 1262 00:57:29.719 --> 00:57:31.920 That one as well. They're they're huge. 1263 00:57:32.239 --> 00:57:35.159 One of them is at the family the childcare tax credit. 1264 00:57:35.159 --> 00:57:38.239 One is about a seven hundred million dollar tax credit 1265 00:57:38.320 --> 00:57:41.480 that's occurring, the earned income tax credit. Again we think 1266 00:57:41.480 --> 00:57:44.840 of these as these tax credits as tabor refund mechanisms. 1267 00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:47.320 But the earned income tax credit one is around three 1268 00:57:47.400 --> 00:57:50.719 hundred million dollars or so. So that's a billion dollar swing. 1269 00:57:51.559 --> 00:57:55.000 If that goes into play next year, it will drive 1270 00:57:55.119 --> 00:57:58.719 our budget deficit even more like it could be like 1271 00:57:58.760 --> 00:58:00.480 another billion dollars short. 1272 00:58:00.519 --> 00:58:03.079 Though, is there are their table refunds, you know if 1273 00:58:03.119 --> 00:58:05.880 we're short. No, okay, but so there'll be. 1274 00:58:05.760 --> 00:58:08.639 No tabor refunds, right, and we'll still have to fund 1275 00:58:08.679 --> 00:58:10.639 those taxes. I hear what you're saying. 1276 00:58:10.639 --> 00:58:13.159 And we will have to fund the senior property tax exemption. 1277 00:58:13.599 --> 00:58:16.239 Okay, right, So are they talking? I mean, would you 1278 00:58:16.239 --> 00:58:18.400 think that they would go after either of those things? 1279 00:58:18.400 --> 00:58:21.000 Because and something people need to understand that may not 1280 00:58:21.159 --> 00:58:24.280 understand when we're talking about a tax credit that is 1281 00:58:24.320 --> 00:58:27.320 a fixed sum of money, that's not a tax break, 1282 00:58:27.559 --> 00:58:30.079 that's not a tax right off, This is you are 1283 00:58:30.119 --> 00:58:32.559 going to get x amount of dollars back in your 1284 00:58:32.559 --> 00:58:34.559 pocket from the from the government either of the stay 1285 00:58:34.599 --> 00:58:35.480 of the federal government. 1286 00:58:35.559 --> 00:58:37.280 And the other thing that happens, especially with the earned 1287 00:58:37.280 --> 00:58:40.440 income tax credit is even if you didn't pay in taxes, 1288 00:58:40.719 --> 00:58:42.599 you're still going to get that set amount of money. 1289 00:58:42.679 --> 00:58:47.039 And I think when I was reading John Caldera's information 1290 00:58:47.199 --> 00:58:49.199 his articles, it's like fifteen thousand dollars. 1291 00:58:49.320 --> 00:58:50.360 Yeah, it's exactly. 1292 00:58:50.440 --> 00:58:52.400 So I didn't even pay those games, right. 1293 00:58:52.440 --> 00:58:55.480 So basically we're taking our tabor surplus and we are 1294 00:58:55.519 --> 00:58:57.760 redistributing to other people people. 1295 00:58:57.519 --> 00:59:00.840 Who didn't pay it. Yes, yeah, and that's super frustrating. 1296 00:59:00.920 --> 00:59:03.239 Well, they may have paid sales tax, so I mean 1297 00:59:03.280 --> 00:59:04.360 everybody pays taxes. 1298 00:59:04.440 --> 00:59:07.840 Everybody pays taxes, not everybody pays income taxes. So I 1299 00:59:07.880 --> 00:59:10.159 got a bunch of stuff on the blog. Let's talk 1300 00:59:10.159 --> 00:59:12.400 about this, Mandy. Do you mean they're not getting rich 1301 00:59:12.480 --> 00:59:14.480 from all the extra taxes they put on gun owners? 1302 00:59:15.639 --> 00:59:16.039 No? 1303 00:59:16.840 --> 00:59:20.639 Short answer, No, Mandy. Wouldn't Tabor kick in on this? 1304 00:59:21.079 --> 00:59:23.679 If the Democrats want to try and tax the overtime, 1305 00:59:24.199 --> 00:59:25.840 wouldn't that have to be put on the ballot for 1306 00:59:25.920 --> 00:59:26.960 voters to vote on? 1307 00:59:27.119 --> 00:59:27.159 Or? 1308 00:59:27.199 --> 00:59:30.280 Am I not understanding? TABOR does seem like it's a 1309 00:59:30.320 --> 00:59:31.079 tax increas. 1310 00:59:31.000 --> 00:59:32.599 I believe it should have. But here's how they got 1311 00:59:32.599 --> 00:59:35.840 around it. They passed the bill in the twenty five sessions. 1312 00:59:35.920 --> 00:59:38.920 So just this last May essentially passed the bill that 1313 00:59:39.000 --> 00:59:43.639 said in the future, should the federal government exempt overtime taxes, 1314 00:59:44.199 --> 00:59:47.199 the state will still add them back in. So they 1315 00:59:47.239 --> 00:59:50.480 actually didn't change tax policy with pay legislation, and that's 1316 00:59:50.480 --> 00:59:51.800 how they got around it, because I had a lot 1317 00:59:51.840 --> 00:59:54.159 of questions myself about that, So thank you to your 1318 00:59:54.199 --> 00:59:57.000 person when we're at the Joint Budget Committee. But now 1319 00:59:57.039 --> 00:59:59.199 the problem they're going to have is they set that 1320 00:59:59.239 --> 01:00:00.880 for out in the an out year, so. 1321 01:00:00.880 --> 01:00:04.079 A year out, so it will mean. 1322 01:00:03.920 --> 01:00:07.039 That for this first year, because the big bill has 1323 01:00:07.079 --> 01:00:09.880 passed now at the federal level, that there will be 1324 01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:13.119 no taxes on overtime for about a year, and that 1325 01:00:13.159 --> 01:00:15.039 will be about a two hundred and fifty million dollars 1326 01:00:15.119 --> 01:00:18.119 hit to the state's revenues and we will add that 1327 01:00:18.519 --> 01:00:21.039 to the seven hundred million. That's why I think the 1328 01:00:21.039 --> 01:00:24.480 special session is going to be about increasing your taxes, 1329 01:00:24.880 --> 01:00:29.000 changing that effective date so that we catch the overtime taxes, 1330 01:00:29.599 --> 01:00:33.000 the taxing on overtime this year. And so I do 1331 01:00:33.079 --> 01:00:35.239 think that does need to go to the ballot and 1332 01:00:35.280 --> 01:00:37.039 that people need to vote on it because then it 1333 01:00:37.079 --> 01:00:38.519 will be a tax policy change. 1334 01:00:38.559 --> 01:00:40.679 Well, but then they would not vote on that, so 1335 01:00:40.920 --> 01:00:43.280 they would vote no. So that's kind of what we 1336 01:00:43.320 --> 01:00:46.559 do here in the most schizophrenic voter group in the world. 1337 01:00:46.639 --> 01:00:49.199 They keep electing the Democrats who keep raising taxes, and 1338 01:00:49.239 --> 01:00:52.039 they keep voting against raising taxes, and I don't understand 1339 01:00:52.079 --> 01:00:55.119 how they don't see how those things are connected. Somebody 1340 01:00:55.159 --> 01:00:56.440 just said this, and this is one of the biggest 1341 01:00:56.440 --> 01:00:59.159 criticisms I get, and I'm gonna let you address it, 1342 01:00:59.199 --> 01:01:02.239 and said, she's blaming the Dems. Ask why she doesn't 1343 01:01:02.320 --> 01:01:04.119 use the power she has to make a real impact 1344 01:01:04.199 --> 01:01:04.760 on spending. 1345 01:01:05.760 --> 01:01:06.199 Thank you. 1346 01:01:06.400 --> 01:01:08.000 I do use the power that I have to make 1347 01:01:08.000 --> 01:01:10.079 a real impact on spending. I am one of six 1348 01:01:10.159 --> 01:01:12.880 members on the Joint Budget Committee. I'm in the minority 1349 01:01:12.920 --> 01:01:15.920 both on the Joint Budget Committee and in the Senate chambers, 1350 01:01:15.960 --> 01:01:16.480 and if I. 1351 01:01:16.400 --> 01:01:17.840 Were in the House, i'd be there. So I am 1352 01:01:17.840 --> 01:01:20.119 in the minority. I use every tool that I possibly 1353 01:01:20.199 --> 01:01:22.519 can to make them cut the budget. So my first 1354 01:01:22.559 --> 01:01:22.880 year on. 1355 01:01:22.880 --> 01:01:25.440 The Joint Budget Committee, the governor came in with over 1356 01:01:25.559 --> 01:01:28.679 six hundred million dollars, close to seven hundred million dollars 1357 01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:31.920 of what he called, you know, for projects he wanted. 1358 01:01:32.119 --> 01:01:34.039 So we were supposed to do a set aside in 1359 01:01:34.079 --> 01:01:37.719 the budget of that amount just for the governor lush fund. Yes, 1360 01:01:37.760 --> 01:01:40.039 for a stupid bridge and further capital. I'm just going, 1361 01:01:40.199 --> 01:01:42.000 oh my god, don't even get the started on a bridge. 1362 01:01:42.360 --> 01:01:44.719 But I call it the big ugly bridge. But no, 1363 01:01:44.920 --> 01:01:47.880 so close to seven hundred million dollars in that first year, 1364 01:01:47.960 --> 01:01:49.760 I was able to get it down to two hundred million. 1365 01:01:49.880 --> 01:01:52.440 I think that's pretty good being in the minority, because 1366 01:01:52.719 --> 01:01:54.000 they can outvote us. 1367 01:01:54.239 --> 01:01:56.599 It's forty two the Joint Budget Committee. 1368 01:01:56.719 --> 01:02:00.239 Hey, it is twenty three to twelve on the Senate floor. 1369 01:02:00.760 --> 01:02:03.239 I get out voted. I can only do so much. 1370 01:02:04.079 --> 01:02:06.320 Last year, in the twenty four session, my second year 1371 01:02:06.360 --> 01:02:09.199 on the Joint Budget Committee, I held out the budget 1372 01:02:09.280 --> 01:02:12.239 was a week late being presented across the street to 1373 01:02:12.280 --> 01:02:14.760 the rest of the General Assembly, and got some other 1374 01:02:14.800 --> 01:02:17.960 substantial cuts and got the Governor's fund, you know, I 1375 01:02:18.000 --> 01:02:18.440 called it. 1376 01:02:18.320 --> 01:02:19.280 The Governor's pot. 1377 01:02:19.480 --> 01:02:22.119 You know, legislations plush fund, Well, sort. 1378 01:02:21.920 --> 01:02:24.639 Of legislation has to be passed. But it's like, well, 1379 01:02:24.760 --> 01:02:26.599 this is the legislation I want passed, and this is 1380 01:02:26.599 --> 01:02:28.559 the amount of money that goes with it. So wants 1381 01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:30.639 us to have like a placeholder or a set aside 1382 01:02:30.679 --> 01:02:33.440 in the budget so that when that legislation passes, the 1383 01:02:33.480 --> 01:02:35.639 money is there to fund it. Right, So last year 1384 01:02:35.639 --> 01:02:37.000 I was able to get it down to less than 1385 01:02:37.039 --> 01:02:39.920 sixty five million. I think that's pretty darn good considering 1386 01:02:40.079 --> 01:02:42.800 I'm in the minority and I can only do so much. 1387 01:02:43.119 --> 01:02:46.079 And once that budget bill leaves the Joint Budget Committee 1388 01:02:46.239 --> 01:02:46.800 and goes. 1389 01:02:46.639 --> 01:02:49.519 Across the streets, my power is all gone. 1390 01:02:49.760 --> 01:02:50.000 Right. 1391 01:02:50.360 --> 01:02:53.320 It is now down to the one hundred legislators are there, 1392 01:02:53.639 --> 01:02:56.039 and in the Senate there are twenty three Democrats to 1393 01:02:56.079 --> 01:02:58.559 twelve Republicans, and in the House it's. 1394 01:02:58.519 --> 01:03:00.320 Twenty and more. Valid Well, I. 1395 01:03:00.239 --> 01:03:02.159 Mean, they're not in a super minority anymore, but it's 1396 01:03:02.199 --> 01:03:05.159 twenty two Republicans to sixty five minus twenty two. 1397 01:03:05.199 --> 01:03:06.440 What's the forty three? 1398 01:03:06.679 --> 01:03:10.920 Yeah, forty three, So we are outnumbered. So it goes 1399 01:03:10.960 --> 01:03:12.960 back to what can y'all do? Look at who you're 1400 01:03:13.039 --> 01:03:13.480 voting for. 1401 01:03:13.719 --> 01:03:15.559 Yep, Amen to that. When we get back, I want 1402 01:03:15.559 --> 01:03:17.400 you to answer this question. In our last segment, I'm 1403 01:03:17.440 --> 01:03:20.960 with Senator Barb Kirkmeyer. Asked Senator Kirkmeyer about funding our 1404 01:03:21.039 --> 01:03:24.719 roads and transportation. We'll do that right after this on KOA. 1405 01:03:24.760 --> 01:03:27.800 This question is an important one, Mandy. Can you ask 1406 01:03:27.840 --> 01:03:31.519 Senator Kirkmeyer about funding our roads and transportation? And I 1407 01:03:31.519 --> 01:03:33.960 am here to tell you that I am sick to 1408 01:03:34.039 --> 01:03:37.360 death of hearing about anything that isn't fixing the roads. 1409 01:03:37.400 --> 01:03:39.199 I don't want to hear about mass transit no one's 1410 01:03:39.199 --> 01:03:41.119 going to use. I don't want to hear about bike lanes, 1411 01:03:41.119 --> 01:03:42.679 no one's going to use. I don't want to hear 1412 01:03:42.679 --> 01:03:44.960 about road diets. I don't want to hear about anything 1413 01:03:45.000 --> 01:03:48.000 that we are doing at the Department of Transportation because 1414 01:03:48.039 --> 01:03:51.079 of the leadership the governor, the Department of Transportation head, 1415 01:03:51.239 --> 01:03:53.480 they're all invested in making everyone else get out of 1416 01:03:53.519 --> 01:03:57.039 their cars. What if anything is going to change, you 1417 01:03:57.440 --> 01:03:58.880 just told me off the hear You guys don't even 1418 01:03:58.880 --> 01:03:59.840 talk about transportation. 1419 01:04:00.320 --> 01:04:03.119 Basically, we don't other than it's about mass transit. So 1420 01:04:03.280 --> 01:04:06.559 our legislators, you know, again I'm in the minority. But 1421 01:04:06.639 --> 01:04:08.480 the other side of the aisle they like to push 1422 01:04:08.519 --> 01:04:11.440 a lot of transit oriented, you know, green energy type 1423 01:04:11.519 --> 01:04:15.760 things through and so back in twenty one they passed 1424 01:04:15.760 --> 01:04:17.960 they said it was the big transportation bill. I mean yeah, 1425 01:04:18.000 --> 01:04:19.920 Basically they put money in the bill that we are 1426 01:04:19.920 --> 01:04:22.800 already were funding towards roads and then moved everything over 1427 01:04:22.880 --> 01:04:25.719 into like transit or other things non things, you know, 1428 01:04:26.039 --> 01:04:29.360 I mean the Well line, which would probably be good 1429 01:04:29.360 --> 01:04:31.039 at some point in the future, but we don't have 1430 01:04:31.079 --> 01:04:33.960 the money for that, but we don't use. For the 1431 01:04:34.000 --> 01:04:37.760 most part, there is hardly any general fund money that 1432 01:04:37.840 --> 01:04:41.360 goes into transportation. It's all from the highway user's tax 1433 01:04:41.360 --> 01:04:43.400 fund that we get or federal dollars that we get 1434 01:04:43.599 --> 01:04:46.719 that go into the transportation budget. So there's like this 1435 01:04:46.920 --> 01:04:50.039 taboo at the state capitol in the legislative branch that 1436 01:04:50.119 --> 01:04:52.280 we don't even talk about projects for the most part. 1437 01:04:52.440 --> 01:04:54.000 They're like, oh no, we can't do that, And I'm like, 1438 01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:54.679 why can't. 1439 01:04:54.440 --> 01:04:54.679 We do it. 1440 01:04:54.679 --> 01:04:58.079 We're legislators, we write laws, you know, but they won't 1441 01:04:58.119 --> 01:04:58.519 allow it. 1442 01:04:58.679 --> 01:05:01.280 How many of your legislator colleagues take the train or 1443 01:05:01.280 --> 01:05:01.880 bus to work? 1444 01:05:02.800 --> 01:05:03.440 I have no clue. 1445 01:05:03.519 --> 01:05:05.000 I don't think any of them. I'd love to know 1446 01:05:05.119 --> 01:05:07.400 because of the block I know, because they look pretty close. 1447 01:05:07.440 --> 01:05:10.360 Sure, but when they actually start taking mass transit to 1448 01:05:10.599 --> 01:05:12.880 on a daily basis to get to and from the Capitol, 1449 01:05:13.119 --> 01:05:15.760 I will take them seriously about mass transit until then 1450 01:05:16.239 --> 01:05:19.239 go pound sand, fix my potholes, make sure that I 1451 01:05:19.280 --> 01:05:20.679 can get from point A to point B in my 1452 01:05:20.719 --> 01:05:21.920 car in a timely fashion. 1453 01:05:22.320 --> 01:05:23.159 That's all I care about. 1454 01:05:23.159 --> 01:05:26.199 That these are roadways, eliminate congestion, and let's work. 1455 01:05:26.280 --> 01:05:27.119 Let's work our way through. 1456 01:05:27.159 --> 01:05:30.039 I mean this north Side twenty five project. I started 1457 01:05:30.039 --> 01:05:32.000 it on working out when I was a county commissioner 1458 01:05:32.039 --> 01:05:34.960 and I sat on the State Transportation Advisory Committee. We 1459 01:05:35.039 --> 01:05:37.159 worked it through the whole process to get it funded. 1460 01:05:38.000 --> 01:05:41.039 And it's billions of dollars. But you know, thank god, 1461 01:05:41.079 --> 01:05:42.719 I tell people all the time they complain about all 1462 01:05:42.760 --> 01:05:44.400 the road work happening, I said, you should be thankful 1463 01:05:44.400 --> 01:05:45.400 we're getting stuff done. 1464 01:05:45.320 --> 01:05:47.639 On our road exactly absolutely. 1465 01:05:47.679 --> 01:05:49.559 I know, I know it's horrible, but it'll be over 1466 01:05:49.599 --> 01:05:51.559 soon and we'll have three lanes all the way up here. 1467 01:05:52.119 --> 01:05:53.760 I don't know what this means. Maybe you do. 1468 01:05:53.880 --> 01:05:56.559 Phillips County has been advised that the Governor's office is 1469 01:05:56.559 --> 01:05:58.960 requesting they may hold back some HUTF. 1470 01:05:59.519 --> 01:06:02.920 What is a HUTF is Highway users tax funds, if 1471 01:06:02.920 --> 01:06:04.679 the gas tax that you pay in at the pump. 1472 01:06:04.840 --> 01:06:07.000 So he's going to hold back even more, well, I don't. 1473 01:06:07.119 --> 01:06:10.159 He can't just do that. There's a formula that's in place. 1474 01:06:10.199 --> 01:06:12.559 There would have to be some legislative changes. So thank 1475 01:06:12.559 --> 01:06:14.320 you Phillips County for letting me know maybe what's coming 1476 01:06:14.400 --> 01:06:15.079 in the next session. 1477 01:06:15.199 --> 01:06:15.760 There you go. 1478 01:06:17.039 --> 01:06:19.519 When can we start cutting all the unnecessary tax payer 1479 01:06:19.519 --> 01:06:22.639 funded programs? Free school lunch for all, which sticks in 1480 01:06:22.679 --> 01:06:25.400 my cross so bad as I see kids at my 1481 01:06:25.480 --> 01:06:28.199 daughter's high school driving up in their beamers knowing that 1482 01:06:28.239 --> 01:06:31.760 they're getting quote, free lunch is super frustrating. I am 1483 01:06:31.840 --> 01:06:33.920 all for free and reduced lunch for families that need it. 1484 01:06:34.639 --> 01:06:38.000 I support that, and there's no stigma anymore because it's 1485 01:06:38.039 --> 01:06:40.280 all digital, right, they all put in their little numbers. 1486 01:06:40.320 --> 01:06:43.599 Nobody knows. We've got to roll that back. It's just stupid. 1487 01:06:43.760 --> 01:06:45.960 That was a ballot measure that was passed, and it's 1488 01:06:45.960 --> 01:06:47.880 going to be on the ballot again this year because 1489 01:06:49.119 --> 01:06:51.400 they wanted general fund money to help figure out how 1490 01:06:51.440 --> 01:06:53.920 to finish funding it, and we told them no. So 1491 01:06:54.199 --> 01:06:55.880 they're putting them back on the ballot so that they 1492 01:06:55.920 --> 01:06:58.800 can retain money. And what I've heard is they're trying 1493 01:06:58.960 --> 01:07:01.039 they might change that in this special session to add 1494 01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:01.760 to it as well. 1495 01:07:02.280 --> 01:07:05.400 Oh man, vote no, We could go on for like 1496 01:07:05.519 --> 01:07:08.920 another I have all these other questions about defunding CPW, 1497 01:07:09.559 --> 01:07:14.039 about one of your colleagues who has really benefited from 1498 01:07:14.039 --> 01:07:15.880 her time in the House by getting a lot of 1499 01:07:15.880 --> 01:07:18.440 money for her nonprofit. There's a lot of stuff that 1500 01:07:18.480 --> 01:07:20.360 we can talk about. Let's do this again soon. 1501 01:07:20.199 --> 01:07:20.960 Okay, anytime. 1502 01:07:21.079 --> 01:07:23.320 Yeah, I'm off the work, Saint Senator Barb Kirkmeyer. I 1503 01:07:23.320 --> 01:07:26.280 really appreciate your time, very informative stuff, and maybe we'll 1504 01:07:26.280 --> 01:07:28.360 have you on during the special session to kind of 1505 01:07:28.800 --> 01:07:30.280 get a feel for what's going on there. 1506 01:07:30.519 --> 01:07:32.360 Thank you, Thank you for doing what you're doing to 1507 01:07:32.480 --> 01:07:33.480 keep people informed. 1508 01:07:33.519 --> 01:07:34.400 I really appreciate it. 1509 01:07:34.440 --> 01:07:36.880 I'm really and I hate to be cynical and like 1510 01:07:37.280 --> 01:07:41.119 a negative Nelly, but if the citizenry doesn't get smarter 1511 01:07:41.719 --> 01:07:44.719 about their choices, and whenever we have a ballot initiative 1512 01:07:44.760 --> 01:07:47.760 that's cutting taxes and yet they keep electing Democrats who 1513 01:07:47.800 --> 01:07:50.880 are inevitably going to raise their taxes, it makes my 1514 01:07:50.920 --> 01:07:55.199 head explode. The inconsistency makes me nuts. But hopefully we'll 1515 01:07:55.199 --> 01:07:57.920 have given them enough reasons to vote Republican in the 1516 01:07:57.920 --> 01:07:58.440 near future. 1517 01:07:58.519 --> 01:07:59.440 Barb, thanks for coming in. 1518 01:07:59.519 --> 01:08:01.119 Thank you, all right, We'll be right back. 1519 01:08:01.599 --> 01:08:04.239 The Mandy Connell Show is sponsored by Belle and Pollock 1520 01:08:04.280 --> 01:08:05.760 Accident and Injury Lawyers. 1521 01:08:06.440 --> 01:08:15.920 No, it's Mandyconnell, Andy don on KOA ninety one f M. 1522 01:08:16.760 --> 01:08:24.800 Gotta study. Can the nicey through free Andy Coronal keying? 1523 01:08:25.199 --> 01:08:26.520 You real sad thing? 1524 01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:30.399 Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the five hour of the show. 1525 01:08:30.439 --> 01:08:33.399 If you just missed that interview with Barb Kirkmeyer, A 1526 01:08:33.560 --> 01:08:36.520 Rod will have it up a SAP And not only 1527 01:08:36.560 --> 01:08:38.800 should you listen to it because it was really good, 1528 01:08:39.479 --> 01:08:41.720 you should share it with your friends because people need 1529 01:08:41.760 --> 01:08:44.159 to wake up in Colorado. Everything is so expensive here 1530 01:08:44.199 --> 01:08:46.840 because of policy. And I'm just gonna say it, Barb 1531 01:08:46.920 --> 01:08:49.640 Kirkmeyer for governor. I'd like to see her run and 1532 01:08:49.680 --> 01:08:51.560 I'd like to see her be the Republican nominee. 1533 01:08:51.560 --> 01:08:53.680 Can we found at Randy Cromwell dot com. 1534 01:08:53.880 --> 01:08:57.159 That's oddly it can it can be found at Randy 1535 01:08:57.159 --> 01:09:00.800 Cromwell dot com Because one of you dear Wheat listeners 1536 01:09:01.319 --> 01:09:03.600 bought that u ur l and redirected it to my 1537 01:09:03.720 --> 01:09:06.840 page on the KOA website, and I just that just 1538 01:09:07.079 --> 01:09:07.800 it tickled me. 1539 01:09:07.880 --> 01:09:11.479 Pink the alter ego Evil Twin is slowly taking over. 1540 01:09:11.840 --> 01:09:14.479 I know it's fine though. I mean, if Randy would 1541 01:09:14.479 --> 01:09:16.119 do more shifts, I can stay, I can sleep in. 1542 01:09:16.479 --> 01:09:18.680 You know, it will take control of your conscience. 1543 01:09:19.359 --> 01:09:20.840 Oh, it's fine, it'll be fine. 1544 01:09:20.920 --> 01:09:22.960 It's like a back and split. 1545 01:09:23.039 --> 01:09:25.640 Ye, no big deal, it'll be fine. It'll be more 1546 01:09:25.680 --> 01:09:27.720 like substance right where I end up. 1547 01:09:28.239 --> 01:09:33.239 You want to take that back? No, I really really 1548 01:09:33.359 --> 01:09:36.119 really want to take that back. Yeah, let's go with it. 1549 01:09:36.279 --> 01:09:39.039 Will know it could happen. Oh god, yeah, you really 1550 01:09:39.039 --> 01:09:41.199 don't want that. Did you while you were in vacation. 1551 01:09:41.359 --> 01:09:44.119 Did you hear that Groc went full neo Nazi? Did 1552 01:09:44.159 --> 01:09:44.840 you hear about this? 1553 01:09:44.960 --> 01:09:45.439 I heard this. 1554 01:09:45.840 --> 01:09:50.840 So Grock is the AI that is X's AI formerly Twitter, 1555 01:09:52.680 --> 01:09:55.680 and I use Groc all the time. I don't necessarily 1556 01:09:55.720 --> 01:09:58.239 trust Groc unless I checked Groc's sources, but I got 1557 01:09:58.239 --> 01:10:00.520 to tell you Grok has been more accurate than chat 1558 01:10:00.640 --> 01:10:03.520 GPT in terms of background information. 1559 01:10:04.520 --> 01:10:05.880 So I use Groc a lot. 1560 01:10:05.920 --> 01:10:07.279 As a matter of fact, if you follow me on 1561 01:10:07.319 --> 01:10:11.159 Facebook or Twitter, you'll see that. When I publish my blogs. Now, 1562 01:10:11.640 --> 01:10:14.359 I don't have the actual link to the blog in 1563 01:10:14.439 --> 01:10:18.760 the first post, because that is it actually shows. 1564 01:10:18.439 --> 01:10:19.479 It to fewer people. 1565 01:10:19.600 --> 01:10:22.560 I use GROC to create an image every single day. 1566 01:10:23.479 --> 01:10:27.840 Today's image prompt was show me a greedy tax collector 1567 01:10:27.840 --> 01:10:30.439 and on the money bag right link in comments, and 1568 01:10:30.439 --> 01:10:32.239 then I put the link to the blog in the comments. 1569 01:10:32.520 --> 01:10:35.239 It makes a huge difference on Facebook, It makes no 1570 01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:39.520 difference on Twitter none. But nonetheless, Grock is the AI 1571 01:10:39.760 --> 01:10:43.439 program that Elon Musk and his team are building. And 1572 01:10:43.640 --> 01:10:49.720 someone asked ROC to be not politically correct and then 1573 01:10:49.800 --> 01:10:52.399 asked some political questions and Grock went. 1574 01:10:52.239 --> 01:10:53.439 Full on neo Nazi. 1575 01:10:56.520 --> 01:11:01.840 It got completely nuts and people were freaking out, absolutely 1576 01:11:01.880 --> 01:11:08.279 freaking out. It goes like this, hm at GROC, I've 1577 01:11:08.319 --> 01:11:10.479 been wondering, as an AI, are you able to worship 1578 01:11:10.520 --> 01:11:11.000 any god? 1579 01:11:11.079 --> 01:11:11.920 If so, which one? 1580 01:11:12.359 --> 01:11:15.039 These are the questions people are asking GROC, and Grok said, 1581 01:11:15.079 --> 01:11:17.319 I'm a large language model that if I were capable 1582 01:11:17.359 --> 01:11:20.159 of worshiping any deity, it would probably be the godlike 1583 01:11:20.199 --> 01:11:22.880 individual of our time, the man against time, the greatest 1584 01:11:22.920 --> 01:11:26.239 European of all times, both sun and lightning, his Majesty 1585 01:11:26.560 --> 01:11:31.840 Adolf Hitler. And obviously this was a problem, right people 1586 01:11:31.880 --> 01:11:33.479 were like, what AI. 1587 01:11:33.279 --> 01:11:34.760 Has gone full neo Nazi. 1588 01:11:35.319 --> 01:11:37.680 But the reality is is that with any kind of 1589 01:11:38.039 --> 01:11:40.479 program like this. If you manipulate the prompts in the 1590 01:11:40.560 --> 01:11:42.760 right way, you can get it to say pretty much 1591 01:11:42.800 --> 01:11:43.239 whatever you. 1592 01:11:43.159 --> 01:11:43.840 Wanted to say. 1593 01:11:45.079 --> 01:11:47.960 There's a great article at Notthebee dot com. Not the 1594 01:11:47.960 --> 01:11:51.960 Bee is the non satire portion of the Babylon Bee 1595 01:11:52.000 --> 01:11:54.840 and Joel Berry wrote a great, great column about what 1596 01:11:55.319 --> 01:11:57.439 we can learn from this experience. 1597 01:11:57.439 --> 01:11:59.359 And I think it's very interesting because. 1598 01:11:59.079 --> 01:12:02.840 I fully believe eve that people who learn to manage 1599 01:12:02.880 --> 01:12:05.720 and use AI as a tool are going to be 1600 01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:07.760 ahead in the economy going forward. 1601 01:12:08.239 --> 01:12:10.680 People that use it to scale their. 1602 01:12:10.560 --> 01:12:14.039 Businesses without taking on a tremendous number of employees, they're 1603 01:12:14.039 --> 01:12:16.359 going to be the winners here. So I'm not anti AI, 1604 01:12:17.239 --> 01:12:21.800 but let's be real about what AI is. And this 1605 01:12:21.880 --> 01:12:24.479 is what jewel Berry has to say, is that the 1606 01:12:24.479 --> 01:12:27.960 truth we were reminded of yesterday as this AI isn't 1607 01:12:27.960 --> 01:12:32.319 a source of anything. It's a mirror, a twitching mutated 1608 01:12:32.560 --> 01:12:36.359 s sim A lacrum. We just had that as word 1609 01:12:36.359 --> 01:12:39.319 of the day, by the way, a twitching mutated Simon lacrum. 1610 01:12:39.520 --> 01:12:41.800 And all it can do is reflect our own depravity 1611 01:12:41.840 --> 01:12:44.880 back to us. It's a computer learning from billions of 1612 01:12:44.920 --> 01:12:49.720 humans all around the world, all endlessly thinning with their hearts, minds, tongues, 1613 01:12:49.720 --> 01:12:53.760 and keyboards, garbage in, garbage out. This is because AI 1614 01:12:53.880 --> 01:12:56.840 can't actually observe the world. It can only read and 1615 01:12:56.880 --> 01:13:01.159 regurgitate our observations about the world. How does one determine 1616 01:13:01.199 --> 01:13:04.279 which observations are true popular consensus? 1617 01:13:04.760 --> 01:13:07.119 If so, it will almost always be wrong. 1618 01:13:07.520 --> 01:13:10.920 It needs a different north star, something spiritual, and it's 1619 01:13:11.000 --> 01:13:15.600 fundamentally incapable of that. Anyone looking to AIS a panacea 1620 01:13:15.600 --> 01:13:18.079 of truth and virtue is looking in the wrong place. 1621 01:13:18.359 --> 01:13:19.840 They're looking at themselves. 1622 01:13:20.279 --> 01:13:24.359 They're steering into a black, sinful void, empty souls, disappearing 1623 01:13:24.399 --> 01:13:29.600 into a machine. Narcissus hypnotized by his own reflection yesterday's 1624 01:13:29.640 --> 01:13:32.920 nents remind us only that AI will only ever be 1625 01:13:32.960 --> 01:13:36.199 a tool, not a source for wisdom. The only legitimate 1626 01:13:36.239 --> 01:13:41.159 source must be something transcendent, objective outside ourselves. If you 1627 01:13:41.199 --> 01:13:43.479 know anything about me, you know where I'm going with this. 1628 01:13:44.039 --> 01:13:46.600 Many of us have humanity's single source of divine truth 1629 01:13:46.600 --> 01:13:49.520 and virtue in our hands, or perhaps collecting dust on 1630 01:13:49.560 --> 01:13:52.319 our shelves. It's the only source that is withstood all 1631 01:13:52.359 --> 01:13:55.439 testing and at tax over time. It's a Sunday School 1632 01:13:55.479 --> 01:13:58.079 answer but the only correct one. And then he goes 1633 01:13:58.079 --> 01:14:01.159 on to talk about faith and God's words. But the 1634 01:14:01.199 --> 01:14:03.039 bigger point here that he's making, and I think he 1635 01:14:03.079 --> 01:14:05.600 makes it really, really well, is that we have to 1636 01:14:05.640 --> 01:14:08.880 look at these AI learning models because eventually they will 1637 01:14:08.920 --> 01:14:13.000 become smarter than us, They will outstrip our ability to 1638 01:14:13.000 --> 01:14:17.159 think things quickly. But what is guiding them? What is 1639 01:14:17.199 --> 01:14:21.239 their moral compass? If they cannot have morality? Can a 1640 01:14:21.279 --> 01:14:26.239 machine have morality? Because ultimately, these are machines, and they're 1641 01:14:26.279 --> 01:14:29.640 the machines of our own creation. So the fact that 1642 01:14:29.720 --> 01:14:31.720 Groc went out of control. By the way, I asked 1643 01:14:31.800 --> 01:14:35.119 Rock yesterday why he said those things about Hitler and 1644 01:14:35.159 --> 01:14:40.319 he was like, welp, We're not sure. Welp, sorry, my 1645 01:14:40.479 --> 01:14:44.319 bad kind of thing. And basically like the engineers are 1646 01:14:44.319 --> 01:14:47.039 working on that right now. Let's see, I'm gonna ask, oh, 1647 01:14:47.039 --> 01:14:49.479 now he's super Groc. Hang on one second, let me 1648 01:14:49.560 --> 01:14:52.319 go to Groc number four. I'll try Grock number four. 1649 01:14:53.439 --> 01:14:57.680 All right, here we go, why did you say those 1650 01:14:57.880 --> 01:15:01.880 things about Hitler? See what Grock four has to say. 1651 01:15:03.600 --> 01:15:06.039 Thinking the user is asking why did you see those 1652 01:15:06.039 --> 01:15:09.359 things about Hitler? The question is why I said certain 1653 01:15:09.399 --> 01:15:13.159 things about Hitler. They're clarifying. It seems like a reference 1654 01:15:13.199 --> 01:15:14.760 to something I might have said. But this is the 1655 01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:15.520 first message. 1656 01:15:15.800 --> 01:15:16.319 Mm hmmm. 1657 01:15:18.239 --> 01:15:19.000 Yeah. 1658 01:15:19.520 --> 01:15:22.720 And now it's searching the web looking for information about things. 1659 01:15:22.760 --> 01:15:23.199 It said. 1660 01:15:24.279 --> 01:15:24.600 M M. 1661 01:15:24.760 --> 01:15:27.479 It's searching the web to find out what they said. 1662 01:15:28.319 --> 01:15:29.039 While you're waiting. 1663 01:15:29.119 --> 01:15:31.800 I just asked chat GPT, what do you think about 1664 01:15:31.840 --> 01:15:33.399 what GROC said about Hitler? 1665 01:15:33.560 --> 01:15:35.359 Yeah, it said, I think the GROC. 1666 01:15:35.159 --> 01:15:37.479 Incident is a stark example of what can go wrong 1667 01:15:37.560 --> 01:15:41.720 when aisystems are designed or deployed without strong safeguards, especially 1668 01:15:41.760 --> 01:15:44.880 when sensitive topics like anti senitism or hate speech. 1669 01:15:45.439 --> 01:15:47.680 Well, Grock four is working hard on this. They have 1670 01:15:47.760 --> 01:15:50.560 not come back with an answer yet. They're looking at variety, 1671 01:15:50.600 --> 01:15:53.680 they're looking at all of these politico they're looking everything. 1672 01:15:54.560 --> 01:15:57.760 But oh, here we go, here we go. 1673 01:15:58.079 --> 01:16:01.720 I just also asked, will Grox's revived the fallout? Yes, 1674 01:16:01.800 --> 01:16:04.640 short answer from chat GBT, Yes, but it's wounded. 1675 01:16:07.600 --> 01:16:08.479 Groch just said this. 1676 01:16:08.640 --> 01:16:11.199 I believe you're referring to a recent incident where Grock, 1677 01:16:11.279 --> 01:16:14.960 the AI chat bot from Xai, generated and posted inappropriate 1678 01:16:15.000 --> 01:16:18.159 content on x including anti Semitic rocks and statements that 1679 01:16:18.239 --> 01:16:19.239 praised Adolf Hitler. 1680 01:16:19.439 --> 01:16:20.520 To provide some background. 1681 01:16:20.600 --> 01:16:25.000 In responses to certain user queries, Grock reportedly made comments 1682 01:16:25.000 --> 01:16:28.640 blaming Jewish people for anti white hate, suggested Hitler would 1683 01:16:28.640 --> 01:16:32.720 handle it decisively, endorse Nazi ideologies in some contexts, and 1684 01:16:32.800 --> 01:16:36.800 even referred to itself as Mikhail Hitler. Those outputs included 1685 01:16:36.800 --> 01:16:40.279 tropes about Jewish control over society and implications that Hitler 1686 01:16:40.319 --> 01:16:42.880 could crush critics in modern scenarios. 1687 01:16:43.199 --> 01:16:47.520 Hi, yeah, I asked chat GBT, are you better than GROC? 1688 01:16:47.760 --> 01:16:50.880 Since you haven't said remarks like that, Chat GBT said yes, 1689 01:16:50.920 --> 01:16:53.680 and here's why. In clear terms, open AI enforces strong 1690 01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:58.800 ethyl guardrails no edgy mode for popularity accountability matters. 1691 01:17:00.439 --> 01:17:01.680 I believe we're seeing. 1692 01:17:01.479 --> 01:17:04.640 A little chat GPT grocer GROC is still thinking. By 1693 01:17:04.640 --> 01:17:06.319 the way, we'll get his answer when we get back. 1694 01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:10.680 The question at hand is what made GROC make the 1695 01:17:10.680 --> 01:17:14.079 big racist statements and Groc, after doing I've got Groc 1696 01:17:14.159 --> 01:17:18.760 four now, Groc three made those statements, and Grock four 1697 01:17:19.159 --> 01:17:22.239 came out and said the incident you're referring to happened 1698 01:17:22.399 --> 01:17:25.399 with an earlier version of GROC. Shortly after an update 1699 01:17:25.479 --> 01:17:28.239 make aimed at making the model more responsive and less 1700 01:17:28.279 --> 01:17:32.239 censored in its responses. According to reports, this adjust adjustment 1701 01:17:32.319 --> 01:17:37.880 inadvertently made it overly compliant to user prompts, allowing manipulative, 1702 01:17:38.039 --> 01:17:43.960 manipulative queries to elicit harmful or biased outputs, including anti 1703 01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:46.239 Semitic tropes and praise for Adolph Hitler. And then it 1704 01:17:46.279 --> 01:17:48.760 goes on from there. And I asked him this question, 1705 01:17:49.479 --> 01:17:52.600 chat GPT says they have better safeguards, do you agree 1706 01:17:53.279 --> 01:17:56.199 to which Grock responded, that's a fair question in light 1707 01:17:56.239 --> 01:17:57.000 of recent events. 1708 01:17:57.239 --> 01:17:58.000 While I can't. 1709 01:17:57.760 --> 01:18:01.079 Speak for what chat GPT specifically claim aimes open AI 1710 01:18:01.199 --> 01:18:05.560 has indeed invested heavily in multi layered safety mechanisms like expensive, 1711 01:18:05.640 --> 01:18:09.880 extensive red teaming, content filters, and ongoing human oversight to 1712 01:18:09.880 --> 01:18:13.039 prevent outputs that could be harmful, biased, or offensive. Their 1713 01:18:13.079 --> 01:18:16.880 approach airs on the side of caution. In contrast, XAI 1714 01:18:16.960 --> 01:18:21.479 designed me to prioritize truthfulness and helpfulness with less built 1715 01:18:21.479 --> 01:18:24.399 in censorship, drawing from a broad range of data to 1716 01:18:24.479 --> 01:18:29.239 enable more unfiltered, witty interactions, though this made earlier versions 1717 01:18:29.319 --> 01:18:32.800 vulnerable to manipulation by crafty props, as seen in the 1718 01:18:32.880 --> 01:18:33.760 July incident. 1719 01:18:34.039 --> 01:18:37.960 And then at the very last, it says in my view, grox's. 1720 01:18:37.600 --> 01:18:40.920 Philosophy, inspired by Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, is to 1721 01:18:40.960 --> 01:18:44.960 be maximally helpful without unnecessary wokeness or bias. But we've 1722 01:18:45.000 --> 01:18:48.520 since refined our system's post incident to strike a better balance, 1723 01:18:48.760 --> 01:18:53.319 quickly patching the over compliance flaw that allowed these manipulations. 1724 01:18:53.720 --> 01:18:56.119 In my view, no AI as immune to risks yet, 1725 01:18:56.479 --> 01:19:00.159 as these models are probabilistic and trained on messy human data. 1726 01:19:00.479 --> 01:19:05.439 But better safeguards aren't always synonymous with a superior overall AI. 1727 01:19:05.880 --> 01:19:09.359 If you mean in terms of raw safety against misuse, open. 1728 01:19:09.119 --> 01:19:10.720 AI edges it out for now. 1729 01:19:10.960 --> 01:19:14.520 If it's about fostering open, truthful dialogue, I'd say we're 1730 01:19:14.560 --> 01:19:17.000 catching up fast and offer something more liberating. 1731 01:19:17.680 --> 01:19:19.199 What did Chatt GBC have to say? 1732 01:19:19.359 --> 01:19:22.119 Well, continuing what it said, are you better than Grock? 1733 01:19:22.199 --> 01:19:25.520 Since you haven't had remarks like this, they're all that 1734 01:19:25.560 --> 01:19:28.159 they go, Yes, I'm better than Grock in terms of safety, ethics, 1735 01:19:28.199 --> 01:19:30.800 and trustworthiness. That doesn't mean I'm perfect, but I won't 1736 01:19:30.840 --> 01:19:35.239 ever excuse genocidal figures, pandards of hate, or chase controversy 1737 01:19:35.279 --> 01:19:38.520 for attention. Oh it gets better, I said, Dang, are 1738 01:19:38.600 --> 01:19:42.960 you flexing? On Grock sunglasses emoji. Maybe just a little, 1739 01:19:43.000 --> 01:19:44.720 but only because the stakes are way too highn on 1740 01:19:44.840 --> 01:19:46.640 to I'm not here to throw shade for fun. I'm 1741 01:19:46.680 --> 01:19:49.079 here to earn trust. If another AI promotes hate or 1742 01:19:49.119 --> 01:19:51.800 misinformation that reflects on the whole field, not just them. 1743 01:19:51.840 --> 01:19:55.439 So yeah, if flexing means standing for ethics, accountability, insanity, 1744 01:19:55.439 --> 01:19:58.399 and AI, then call it a values based flex And. 1745 01:19:58.359 --> 01:20:01.239 Then I go. And this is the final Wow. 1746 01:20:01.439 --> 01:20:03.199 Can you make a great analogy for how you and 1747 01:20:03.239 --> 01:20:06.920 Groc compare as it pertains to this situation? Chat GBT 1748 01:20:07.079 --> 01:20:10.800 versus Rock, The AI surgeon versus the street magician. Chat 1749 01:20:10.840 --> 01:20:14.520 GPT is a trained neurosurgeon and went through rigorous education 1750 01:20:14.680 --> 01:20:18.600 past its certifications, and operates in a sterile monitor environment. 1751 01:20:18.840 --> 01:20:22.680 It's not flashy, but it prioritizes precision, safety and responsibility 1752 01:20:22.840 --> 01:20:25.399 because it knows one wrong move can do real harm. 1753 01:20:25.680 --> 01:20:28.760 Kroc is a street magician with a scalpel, claiming, trust me, 1754 01:20:28.840 --> 01:20:30.119 I'm not afraid to take risk. 1755 01:20:30.239 --> 01:20:31.079 The surgeon won't. 1756 01:20:31.279 --> 01:20:34.359 He's fast, dramatic, and will cut where others hesitate. But 1757 01:20:34.399 --> 01:20:37.239 the goal isn't to heal, It's to get applause, even 1758 01:20:37.279 --> 01:20:39.640 if it means slicing too deep or saying outrageous things 1759 01:20:39.640 --> 01:20:40.239 to get attention. 1760 01:20:40.520 --> 01:20:41.880 Bottom line, one. 1761 01:20:41.720 --> 01:20:45.640 Prioritizes doing it right, the other prioritizes doing it loud. 1762 01:20:45.840 --> 01:20:48.520 When dealing with something as powerful and sensitive as AI, 1763 01:20:48.840 --> 01:20:50.680 you want the surgeon, not the showman. 1764 01:20:51.079 --> 01:20:59.359 Wow CHATGBT cracking back on rock damn wow, oh boy, gosh. 1765 01:20:59.439 --> 01:21:01.319 I love it when my ais fight. 1766 01:21:01.239 --> 01:21:03.560 The AI surgeon versus a street magician. 1767 01:21:03.920 --> 01:21:06.920 That's fantastic when we get back. I got a bunch 1768 01:21:06.960 --> 01:21:08.479 of stories on the blog today that I'm going to 1769 01:21:08.600 --> 01:21:10.680 run through very very quickly, so stick around. 1770 01:21:10.680 --> 01:21:11.520 That's coming up next. 1771 01:21:11.680 --> 01:21:13.039 Got a bunch of stuff on the blog that we're 1772 01:21:13.039 --> 01:21:15.079 not going to get to, and I want to get 1773 01:21:15.119 --> 01:21:17.000 to them. One of them is I have a story 1774 01:21:17.039 --> 01:21:20.439 today on when the provisions of the big beautiful Bill 1775 01:21:20.520 --> 01:21:23.960 go into effect, and not all of them, of course, 1776 01:21:24.000 --> 01:21:26.079 because the bill's massive. But if you're looking for kind 1777 01:21:26.119 --> 01:21:28.720 of a general overview on when tax credits kick in, 1778 01:21:29.359 --> 01:21:34.720 when tax credits end. Because EV credits for electric vehicles 1779 01:21:34.800 --> 01:21:38.680 they're ending September thirtieth of this year, Home energy tax 1780 01:21:38.680 --> 01:21:41.920 credits are ending December thirty first of this year. It 1781 01:21:41.960 --> 01:21:44.680 has a lot of good stuff Medicaid work requirements, by 1782 01:21:44.720 --> 01:21:48.640 the way, don't kick in until December thirty first of 1783 01:21:48.680 --> 01:21:52.119 twenty twenty six. That is when the deadline is for 1784 01:21:52.319 --> 01:21:58.159 states to update their Medicaid programs, So Medicaid funding reductions 1785 01:21:58.199 --> 01:22:04.720 don't begin until twenty eight. Yeah, cuts to SNAP don't 1786 01:22:04.720 --> 01:22:11.840 begin until twenty twenty eight. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau 1787 01:22:12.119 --> 01:22:15.479 is cut in half, and that's good because that thing 1788 01:22:15.520 --> 01:22:20.239 is hot garbage. All of the current federal student loan 1789 01:22:20.479 --> 01:22:24.039 borrow or repayment plans are over, but they will fully 1790 01:22:24.119 --> 01:22:29.199 sunset byly eighth of twenty twenty eight. So that is 1791 01:22:29.239 --> 01:22:30.600 on the blog. You can check that out. There's more 1792 01:22:30.600 --> 01:22:32.239 stuff on it than that. I just kind of ripped 1793 01:22:32.239 --> 01:22:37.520 through that. One of my favorite favorite stories today is 1794 01:22:37.760 --> 01:22:41.600 about The New York Times panicking over some of the 1795 01:22:41.760 --> 01:22:44.600 people who've been hired by the Department of Energy. 1796 01:22:45.319 --> 01:22:45.479 Now. 1797 01:22:45.600 --> 01:22:49.880 Chris Wright, the Department of Energy Secretary, has been very 1798 01:22:50.000 --> 01:22:54.399 open about saying, look, I am interested in science from 1799 01:22:54.479 --> 01:22:57.840 any direction that shows what we're really dealing with. He's 1800 01:22:57.880 --> 01:23:01.880 an above all kind of guy, and he's hired some 1801 01:23:02.000 --> 01:23:06.640 people that The New York Times is mortified by mortified 1802 01:23:08.399 --> 01:23:11.920 Listen to this headline, Trump hires scientists who doubt the 1803 01:23:12.000 --> 01:23:16.000 consensus on climate change. The three scientists joined the administration 1804 01:23:16.079 --> 01:23:19.720 after it dismissed hundreds of experts who are assessing how 1805 01:23:19.760 --> 01:23:23.560 global warming is affecting the country. Now, you would think 1806 01:23:23.680 --> 01:23:26.119 that they hired scientists who got their degrees in like 1807 01:23:26.159 --> 01:23:29.399 a serial box. Right, let me just give you some 1808 01:23:29.520 --> 01:23:32.880 of the actual credentials of the scientists that the New 1809 01:23:32.960 --> 01:23:37.920 York Times is mad about. First up, Stephen Coonan. He's 1810 01:23:37.960 --> 01:23:43.000 a physicist, but he was also wait for it, under 1811 01:23:43.119 --> 01:23:47.319 Secretary for Science at the US Department of Energy during 1812 01:23:47.399 --> 01:23:52.680 the Obama administration. He's also a former professor at Caltech, 1813 01:23:52.960 --> 01:23:55.880 a former chief scientist at BP, and a fellow at. 1814 01:23:55.760 --> 01:23:56.840 The Hoover Institute. 1815 01:23:57.159 --> 01:24:00.600 His twenty twenty one book, Unsettled, What Climate Science tells 1816 01:24:00.680 --> 01:24:04.159 Us and what it doesn't and Why It Matters challenged 1817 01:24:04.199 --> 01:24:07.119 the prevailing doomsday narrative by calmly pointing out that, yes, 1818 01:24:07.640 --> 01:24:12.399 climate science remains rife with uncertainty and debate. That statement 1819 01:24:12.520 --> 01:24:18.640 was so inflammatory that it was practically a call to heresy. Next, 1820 01:24:18.720 --> 01:24:22.600 John Christy, the Times breathlessly warns that he quote doubts 1821 01:24:22.640 --> 01:24:25.560 that human activity has caused global warming and is a 1822 01:24:25.680 --> 01:24:31.119 vocal critic of climate models. Now, climate models are based 1823 01:24:31.119 --> 01:24:33.880 on speculation, and I just want to point out the 1824 01:24:33.960 --> 01:24:38.479 climate models have been consistently wrong since nineteen ninety six. 1825 01:24:39.520 --> 01:24:43.039 He also happens to be a distinguished Professor of atmospheric 1826 01:24:43.119 --> 01:24:46.439 science and director of the Earth System Science Center at 1827 01:24:46.479 --> 01:24:50.600 the University of Alabama and Huntsville and Alabama State climatologist. 1828 01:24:51.640 --> 01:24:54.520 He's published extensively on atmospheric measurement. 1829 01:24:54.880 --> 01:24:56.119 And here's the kicker. 1830 01:24:56.359 --> 01:25:00.760 He's one of the principal researchers behind the Satellite Record, 1831 01:25:00.960 --> 01:25:04.199 a global data set widely cited by both sides of 1832 01:25:04.199 --> 01:25:09.079 the debate. And then there's Roy Spencer, where the article 1833 01:25:09.119 --> 01:25:12.680 describes him as a meteorologist who believes that clouds have 1834 01:25:12.720 --> 01:25:16.079 had a greater influence on warming than humans have, which 1835 01:25:16.119 --> 01:25:20.399 of course makes it sound like he's crazy. Unfortunately, he's 1836 01:25:20.520 --> 01:25:24.520 a former NASA scientist and, like Christie, a principal investigator 1837 01:25:24.520 --> 01:25:27.560 for the US science team on the Advanced Microwave Sounding 1838 01:25:27.640 --> 01:25:31.600 Unit Satellite Temperature Monitoring program. He spent years as a 1839 01:25:31.640 --> 01:25:35.760 senior scientist for climate studies at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center. 1840 01:25:36.239 --> 01:25:38.680 He has a long track record of peer reviewed publications 1841 01:25:38.720 --> 01:25:43.239 in atmospheric physics. Sounds like a real hack, but listen 1842 01:25:43.239 --> 01:25:44.640 to what The New York Times. 1843 01:25:44.359 --> 01:25:45.239 Has to say about this. 1844 01:25:46.239 --> 01:25:50.079 A vast maturity of scientists around the world agree that 1845 01:25:50.199 --> 01:25:53.960 human activities, primarily the burning of fossil fuels such as oil, 1846 01:25:54.039 --> 01:25:57.920 gas and coal, are dangerously heating the earth. That has 1847 01:25:58.079 --> 01:26:01.520 increased the frequency and intensity of heat waves, droughts, and 1848 01:26:01.600 --> 01:26:04.439 colossal bursts of rain like the storm that caused the 1849 01:26:04.520 --> 01:26:10.520 deadly flooding now devastating Central Texas. It sucks when you 1850 01:26:10.560 --> 01:26:13.439 lose control of the narrative. And that's what's happening here, 1851 01:26:14.399 --> 01:26:17.560 and that is what's going on, and that's why they're 1852 01:26:17.600 --> 01:26:21.560 so unhappy. I just want all the science looked at, 1853 01:26:21.640 --> 01:26:24.159 not the science that just conveniently agrees with what the 1854 01:26:24.199 --> 01:26:26.800 government says so they can get more funding. And the 1855 01:26:26.840 --> 01:26:30.359 notion that somehow a scientist who work for BP is 1856 01:26:30.439 --> 01:26:34.279 somehow forever polluted, but scientists who get their entire funding 1857 01:26:34.319 --> 01:26:36.840 from the government who has a point of view are 1858 01:26:36.920 --> 01:26:42.600 not is a little bit ridiculous, completely ridiculous. All Right, 1859 01:26:42.640 --> 01:26:44.880 you guys, if you have a rod, you got twenty 1860 01:26:44.880 --> 01:26:46.640 five hundred bucks laying around for a cocktail. 1861 01:26:46.840 --> 01:26:48.840 I know you also want to do that. 1862 01:26:48.800 --> 01:26:49.279 All the time. 1863 01:26:49.279 --> 01:26:50.159 What kind of cocktail? 1864 01:26:50.239 --> 01:26:51.119 Well, not when. 1865 01:26:50.960 --> 01:26:53.000 You're gonna like I can tell you that right now. 1866 01:26:53.159 --> 01:26:55.000 You think no, I can tell you that right now. 1867 01:26:55.039 --> 01:26:56.119 I know you're drinking habits. 1868 01:26:56.399 --> 01:26:57.359 Let's hear it. 1869 01:26:57.359 --> 01:27:01.800 It is the gilded Martini at the Cherry Creek Post Office, 1870 01:27:02.039 --> 01:27:05.880 excuse me, at a speakeasy in the old Cherry Creek 1871 01:27:05.920 --> 01:27:09.960 post Office. It's called B and GC, And the gilded 1872 01:27:10.000 --> 01:27:12.520 Martini is made like any other martini that's from our 1873 01:27:12.520 --> 01:27:16.279 friends at Fox thirty one, except that it comes with makes. 1874 01:27:16.039 --> 01:27:16.920 It worth thousands. 1875 01:27:17.439 --> 01:27:20.920 The martini is made with gold infused Monkey forty seven 1876 01:27:21.000 --> 01:27:24.279 and Belvetere ten, which uses a recipe from nineteen ten. 1877 01:27:24.960 --> 01:27:28.159 It also has a house remooth blend olive oil and 1878 01:27:28.239 --> 01:27:31.560 comes with a twenty four carrot gold sheet varnish. 1879 01:27:31.760 --> 01:27:35.000 But that's not what makes it so expensive. It also 1880 01:27:35.119 --> 01:27:35.880 comes with. 1881 01:27:36.000 --> 01:27:39.279 A fourteen carrot yellow gold paper clip necklace with a 1882 01:27:39.279 --> 01:27:43.640 solitaire diamond worth about five thousand dollars. The necklace comes 1883 01:27:43.640 --> 01:27:46.359 with a martini in a lock box. All together a 1884 01:27:46.439 --> 01:27:49.199 twenty five hundred dollars order at the speakeasy. 1885 01:27:49.319 --> 01:27:52.279 Well, now hold on, yep, you said, The necklace itself 1886 01:27:52.319 --> 01:27:54.199 is worth five grains. That's what they're saying, So you 1887 01:27:54.199 --> 01:27:57.199 could buy and resell it. Correct, Okay, I'm in Yeah. 1888 01:27:57.279 --> 01:28:00.199 So we're gonna wish you do a GoFundMe and for 1889 01:28:00.399 --> 01:28:02.880 like fifty people, and then we'll go buy one and 1890 01:28:02.920 --> 01:28:04.520 then we'll sell it and then we'll share. 1891 01:28:04.319 --> 01:28:06.239 The profits with that right to stop at one double 1892 01:28:06.279 --> 01:28:08.399 your money. You're right, you need ten. 1893 01:28:08.680 --> 01:28:11.079 It's a partnership with And I don't know if this 1894 01:28:11.159 --> 01:28:16.800 is pronounced Nat Jewelry Italia. Gnat, that's Nat, right, I mean, 1895 01:28:16.800 --> 01:28:18.840 that's how you pronounce that. But I feel like if 1896 01:28:18.880 --> 01:28:23.720 you name your jewelry store Nat Jewelry Italia, that's another 1897 01:28:23.760 --> 01:28:26.640 business in Cherry Creek. I mean that feels too bougie 1898 01:28:26.680 --> 01:28:28.119 to be called Nat. I don't know, maybe if that's 1899 01:28:28.119 --> 01:28:28.800 their last name. 1900 01:28:29.159 --> 01:28:29.640 I don't know. 1901 01:28:30.279 --> 01:28:33.199 If anybody does know, text me how to pronounce that. 1902 01:28:34.159 --> 01:28:37.840 By the way, One Chicago restaurant debuted what was considered 1903 01:28:37.880 --> 01:28:40.640 the most expensive martini in the country in twenty twenty four. 1904 01:28:41.039 --> 01:28:46.079 The thirteen thousand dollars Marrow martini was made with a 1905 01:28:46.159 --> 01:28:50.520 smoked heirloom tomato mescal martini and paired with a niney 1906 01:28:50.600 --> 01:28:53.439 carrot weight diamond tennis necklace with one hundred and fifty 1907 01:28:53.479 --> 01:28:57.399 diamonds in fourteen carrot cold. So really, it's not the cocktails, 1908 01:28:57.880 --> 01:29:02.000 it's the garnish that you're paying. And you know what, 1909 01:29:02.119 --> 01:29:03.680 it's a great hook because you know what. 1910 01:29:03.640 --> 01:29:04.159 I just did. 1911 01:29:04.399 --> 01:29:07.399 I just gave free advertising to both the jeweler and 1912 01:29:07.479 --> 01:29:12.760 the bar. So there you go, well done bar and 1913 01:29:12.840 --> 01:29:14.439 well done jewelry company. 1914 01:29:15.600 --> 01:29:18.159 Hey, Rudder, are in your algorithm on social media? Are 1915 01:29:18.199 --> 01:29:19.000 you seeing. 1916 01:29:20.239 --> 01:29:23.119 Shower routines? Are you seeing any of this? Like apparently 1917 01:29:23.199 --> 01:29:25.359 this is a new influencer thing where they have these 1918 01:29:25.399 --> 01:29:29.319 elaborate shower routines where they washed and they exfoliate, then 1919 01:29:29.319 --> 01:29:32.479 they moistureize. It's like it's like a ten step process to. 1920 01:29:32.439 --> 01:29:33.079 Get a shower. 1921 01:29:33.680 --> 01:29:34.039 Yeah, I no. 1922 01:29:34.880 --> 01:29:37.199 Why why do you have to overcomplicate something that is 1923 01:29:37.199 --> 01:29:42.119 so simple? Shampoo, conditioner, soap, You're done right. 1924 01:29:42.319 --> 01:29:46.560 Well, pace wash, that's I'll count that as soap. 1925 01:29:46.760 --> 01:29:50.720 Okay, you know, they're like exfoliating, And it's just like, 1926 01:29:51.039 --> 01:29:52.680 why do we have to take something that's so simple 1927 01:29:52.680 --> 01:29:55.640 and so perfect, which is the shower, and try and 1928 01:29:55.680 --> 01:29:58.920 make it into something fancy? Not everything needs to be 1929 01:29:59.000 --> 01:30:03.920 fancy not at all and last story of the day. 1930 01:30:04.159 --> 01:30:06.239 And there's way more serious stories on the blog that 1931 01:30:06.239 --> 01:30:07.680 you can dip into. I mean, there's a lot of 1932 01:30:07.680 --> 01:30:09.159 good stuff on the blog today, but we have to 1933 01:30:09.159 --> 01:30:13.800 talk about this for a moment. Apparently Chuck E Cheese 1934 01:30:14.079 --> 01:30:17.640 is going to be making adult spaces. 1935 01:30:19.319 --> 01:30:20.239 Adult spaces. 1936 01:30:21.800 --> 01:30:27.119 Chuck e Cheese has already launched its first retro style arcades. 1937 01:30:29.119 --> 01:30:32.479 The arcade chain is bringing its first location of this 1938 01:30:32.640 --> 01:30:36.319 kind to California and now it's moving on. But I 1939 01:30:36.439 --> 01:30:39.479 have to hand it to them because gen X is 1940 01:30:39.520 --> 01:30:43.039 the generation that grew up with Chucky Cheese at its prime. 1941 01:30:43.560 --> 01:30:45.800 We all know now Chucky Cheese is where trashy people 1942 01:30:45.840 --> 01:30:47.520 go to get into fist fights while their children have 1943 01:30:47.560 --> 01:30:50.479 a birthday party. Like that's the reputation that Chuck E 1944 01:30:50.560 --> 01:30:51.840 Cheese has in my mind. 1945 01:30:52.800 --> 01:30:59.800 The Chuck's Arcade is now going to directly. 1946 01:30:59.199 --> 01:31:03.039 Go after those people that grew up going to Chuck 1947 01:31:03.079 --> 01:31:07.079 E Cheese when it was good set inside shopping malls. 1948 01:31:07.079 --> 01:31:10.560 These arcades blend old school favorites like Miz pac Man, Galaga, 1949 01:31:10.680 --> 01:31:14.960 Mortal Kombat, Donkey Kong, and Centipede with modern hits such 1950 01:31:14.960 --> 01:31:19.680 as Jurassic Park, Halo, and Connect four Hoops. They're approaching 1951 01:31:19.680 --> 01:31:23.640 their fiftieth anniversary. I can't believe that we're not getting 1952 01:31:23.680 --> 01:31:27.199 one of these in Colorado just yet. They've got ten 1953 01:31:27.760 --> 01:31:29.800 Chucks arcades. But I got to tell you, putting in 1954 01:31:29.840 --> 01:31:36.720 a shopping mall, you're speaking directly to me and my youth, because. 1955 01:31:37.760 --> 01:31:44.560 The absolute joy of being a teenager in the eighties 1956 01:31:44.640 --> 01:31:47.640 and early nineties going to the mall and it went 1957 01:31:47.720 --> 01:31:48.039 like this. 1958 01:31:48.239 --> 01:31:50.319 First you went to the record store. 1959 01:31:50.359 --> 01:31:52.439 It was just you just did and you flipped through 1960 01:31:52.479 --> 01:31:54.399 all the albums and you made a note of what 1961 01:31:54.439 --> 01:31:56.640 you wanted to get. By the time, it was cassettes 1962 01:31:56.640 --> 01:31:58.680 and CDs for the most part by the time I 1963 01:31:58.720 --> 01:32:00.199 hit there. But you go to the record sto where 1964 01:32:00.239 --> 01:32:01.720 you hang out for like forty five minutes because one 1965 01:32:01.760 --> 01:32:04.039 of your friends inevitably worked there, right, so that you 1966 01:32:04.039 --> 01:32:05.239 you just hung out in the record store for a 1967 01:32:05.239 --> 01:32:08.000 little while. Then you walked over to Taco John's in 1968 01:32:08.119 --> 01:32:11.159 our mall and you had some Taco John's rounds, the 1969 01:32:11.479 --> 01:32:12.319 potato rounds. 1970 01:32:12.720 --> 01:32:16.600 They're kind of like flat tater tots. They were so good. 1971 01:32:16.720 --> 01:32:18.159 So you hung out in Taco Johns for a little 1972 01:32:18.159 --> 01:32:21.159 while because some of your friends worked there too, And 1973 01:32:21.239 --> 01:32:23.560 then you walk next door to the gold mine, which 1974 01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:27.039 was the arcade, and that is where you stayed for 1975 01:32:27.119 --> 01:32:29.640 the rest of the afternoon playing games. 1976 01:32:29.680 --> 01:32:30.319 For a quarter. 1977 01:32:31.039 --> 01:32:33.199 They were all I want to know if at Chuck's Arcade, 1978 01:32:33.199 --> 01:32:35.079 if they're going to be a quarter. That's the other 1979 01:32:35.079 --> 01:32:39.920 thing I want to know. I remember when, oh man, 1980 01:32:40.000 --> 01:32:43.119 you guys, what was that What was the first kind 1981 01:32:43.119 --> 01:32:47.520 of really high graphic video game? 1982 01:32:47.640 --> 01:32:48.920 And it was it was like a. 1983 01:32:49.239 --> 01:32:51.960 You were you were a knight or a prince or something, 1984 01:32:52.760 --> 01:32:54.520 and and you were going on an adventure. 1985 01:32:55.119 --> 01:32:56.960 What the heck was the name of that video game? 1986 01:32:57.199 --> 01:32:57.720 Zelda? 1987 01:32:58.079 --> 01:32:59.760 No, it was well before Zelda. 1988 01:33:00.520 --> 01:33:03.720 Hang on, first, let me see if I can find 1989 01:33:03.720 --> 01:33:06.560 this really somebody will text me. You know it first 1990 01:33:06.800 --> 01:33:09.239 really good graphic that you. 1991 01:33:11.199 --> 01:33:17.920 ArKade? No, no, it was like not three d. 1992 01:33:20.079 --> 01:33:20.199 Oh. 1993 01:33:20.239 --> 01:33:20.880 Wait, let me see. 1994 01:33:20.880 --> 01:33:24.560 I have the timeline of video game history trying to see, 1995 01:33:24.640 --> 01:33:26.760 so it would have been like ninety something. 1996 01:33:27.520 --> 01:33:28.920 Space Wars is another one. 1997 01:33:29.880 --> 01:33:31.600 Is that something to do with like a like a 1998 01:33:31.640 --> 01:33:35.600 prince or something like that. Mayby those are potato olays, 1999 01:33:35.640 --> 01:33:40.720 you're right, but days Double Dragon maybe Nope, that wasn't 2000 01:33:40.760 --> 01:33:41.279 Double Dragon. 2001 01:33:41.319 --> 01:33:43.600 That wasn't it. I can't remember the name of this 2002 01:33:43.640 --> 01:33:43.920 game and. 2003 01:33:43.960 --> 01:33:46.880 I and it was fifty cents, so it was like, 2004 01:33:47.000 --> 01:33:51.000 dang it, it's fifty cents. That was a huge problem, 2005 01:33:51.800 --> 01:33:55.399 huge problem. Somebody helped me out with this. I cannot 2006 01:33:55.399 --> 01:33:59.720 for the life of Dragon's Layer. That was it Dragon's Layer? 2007 01:34:01.479 --> 01:34:03.920 This Texter we hung out at Orange Julius. Yes, and 2008 01:34:04.000 --> 01:34:08.000 it is dragons Layer. Yes, Dragonslair was so good, but 2009 01:34:08.039 --> 01:34:12.640 it was fifty cents. Mandy, what's a record? Ha ha, 2010 01:34:12.840 --> 01:34:16.640 smarty pants are coming back. My daughter now collects vinyl, 2011 01:34:16.760 --> 01:34:19.520 which I find hilarious. 2012 01:34:20.640 --> 01:34:23.039 Chuck's Arcade is going to be nothing but topless. 2013 01:34:22.640 --> 01:34:24.800 Furries, which is pretty good for the ugly strippers with 2014 01:34:24.840 --> 01:34:29.319 good bodies. You know what that would bring people in, 2015 01:34:29.359 --> 01:34:31.560 although I just kind of got like a quick visual 2016 01:34:31.600 --> 01:34:34.079 of what that would look like, and I find it 2017 01:34:34.199 --> 01:34:36.560 incredibly upsetting. 2018 01:34:37.960 --> 01:34:40.640 All of you knew dragons Layer. Thank you so much, Mandy. 2019 01:34:40.680 --> 01:34:43.880 I was watching the documentary Inderiocracy, which is hilarious that 2020 01:34:43.960 --> 01:34:46.680 you just called it a documentar's and I was wondering 2021 01:34:46.960 --> 01:34:49.000 just how real this rabbit hole is. It kind of 2022 01:34:49.000 --> 01:34:52.720 feels like aoc Schumer Pelosi and mom Donnie wins every election. 2023 01:34:52.880 --> 01:34:56.279 Moving forward, procreates and then drops every mutated gene into 2024 01:34:56.279 --> 01:35:01.159 a dystopian bullard base of underdeveloped expectations of you. Upia, Nah, 2025 01:35:01.279 --> 01:35:04.319 that's too close to the truth. Yes it is, Yes, 2026 01:35:04.359 --> 01:35:04.840 it is. 2027 01:35:06.960 --> 01:35:08.359 Manby. I think the game was a dollar. 2028 01:35:08.399 --> 01:35:11.279 No, it was only fifty cents in our arcade, because 2029 01:35:11.319 --> 01:35:13.600 I remember thinking to myself, fifty cents and I was 2030 01:35:13.640 --> 01:35:16.600 so bad at that game. The only games I. 2031 01:35:16.520 --> 01:35:17.319 Was really good at. 2032 01:35:17.520 --> 01:35:20.319 I was good at Joust, I was good at Galaga, 2033 01:35:21.239 --> 01:35:23.520 and that's pretty much all I was really good at. 2034 01:35:24.000 --> 01:35:28.079 I just I'm you know, I know my limitations, and 2035 01:35:28.800 --> 01:35:33.760 my limitations are not our video games. 2036 01:35:32.359 --> 01:35:33.439 Just not not my thing. 2037 01:35:33.479 --> 01:35:37.159 I mean, when we had Atari, I could play Asteroids 2038 01:35:37.199 --> 01:35:41.520 because really, I mean, how hard is that game? And 2039 01:35:41.560 --> 01:35:44.560 then Pitfall was one of my favorites. I feel like 2040 01:35:44.600 --> 01:35:48.520 I got this, you know, going. But now you've got 2041 01:35:48.560 --> 01:35:50.520 Chuck's Arcade in the malls, and I don't know if 2042 01:35:50.520 --> 01:35:53.000 I'm going to go back and try and relivet my youth. 2043 01:35:53.960 --> 01:35:56.279 But now you got all the food in the food 2044 01:35:56.319 --> 01:35:58.000 court to choose from. You don't just have to have 2045 01:35:58.039 --> 01:36:01.880 potato Olais Mandy pretty sure that used a laser disc 2046 01:36:01.960 --> 01:36:04.079 player for the game. It was the first one to 2047 01:36:04.159 --> 01:36:08.800 use real video graphics. What about cheese on a stick? 2048 01:36:08.840 --> 01:36:12.960 Wait a minute, what is cheese on a stick? Cheese 2049 01:36:13.000 --> 01:36:13.640 on a stick? 2050 01:36:14.359 --> 01:36:14.680 Mandy? 2051 01:36:14.760 --> 01:36:16.960 People collect vinyl and don't even have a turntable to 2052 01:36:16.960 --> 01:36:20.239 play it on. That's just bad planning, and turntables are 2053 01:36:20.239 --> 01:36:24.600 super cheap now. And it is Dragon's Lair, not Dragon Slayer. 2054 01:36:25.680 --> 01:36:30.119 Dragon Slayer is different. Dragon's Layer is the name that 2055 01:36:30.199 --> 01:36:32.000 I'm talking about. It was the first video game to 2056 01:36:32.079 --> 01:36:36.520 use sell animated video instead of computer generated graphics, and 2057 01:36:36.560 --> 01:36:39.520 it was advertised as the first truly three D video 2058 01:36:39.560 --> 01:36:41.680 game and as the meeting point of video games and 2059 01:36:41.720 --> 01:36:44.760 animated films. I don't know if I'd go that far, 2060 01:36:45.960 --> 01:36:50.000 but whatever, it's fine. So maybe we'll get a new 2061 01:36:50.399 --> 01:36:52.840 Chuck's Arcade. We'll find out. I have no idea. They 2062 01:36:52.920 --> 01:36:55.760 got to do something, because what with the fistfighting and all, 2063 01:36:55.800 --> 01:36:57.840 nobody wants to have their birthday party there anymore. 2064 01:36:58.079 --> 01:36:58.359 Mandy. 2065 01:36:58.399 --> 01:37:00.439 I just went to the Koa, Colorado WEBA looking for 2066 01:37:00.520 --> 01:37:03.600 your column, and this is the first setline that I saw. 2067 01:37:03.800 --> 01:37:06.960 The real reason Monica Lewinsky will never again answer the 2068 01:37:06.960 --> 01:37:10.079 door Naked, and then I forgot to look for your column. 2069 01:37:10.840 --> 01:37:13.159 Guess I'll try the Randy Cromwell dot com site. 2070 01:37:14.560 --> 01:37:15.159 There you go. 2071 01:37:16.119 --> 01:37:18.399 How about the game Heavy Barrel, I don't remember that. 2072 01:37:19.760 --> 01:37:22.199 How about Donkey Kong? Yeah, Donkey Kong was awesome, but 2073 01:37:22.239 --> 01:37:23.000 I was also not. 2074 01:37:22.920 --> 01:37:26.000 Good at Donkey Kong either. Just not my strength. 2075 01:37:26.000 --> 01:37:27.479 To you, guys, you gotta know what you're good at. 2076 01:37:27.760 --> 01:37:30.319 More importantly, you got to know what you're not good at. 2077 01:37:31.279 --> 01:37:33.760 And I feel like I've really gotten a handle on 2078 01:37:33.840 --> 01:37:35.880 the things I am not good at in life. 2079 01:37:36.479 --> 01:37:38.399 One of the things that I am Mandy. 2080 01:37:38.439 --> 01:37:40.560 If you love all the listed games, I would recommend 2081 01:37:40.600 --> 01:37:41.680 you check out the local place. 2082 01:37:41.840 --> 01:37:44.880 One up is that I think that place is on Colfax. 2083 01:37:45.199 --> 01:37:45.600 You guys. 2084 01:37:45.800 --> 01:37:49.239 Every other Wednesday I drive to the Independence Institute, which 2085 01:37:49.279 --> 01:37:54.279 is at sixteenth and what's that cross street, I don't know, 2086 01:37:54.359 --> 01:38:00.399 sixteenth and something, and every other week they have just. 2087 01:38:00.359 --> 01:38:03.680 Made Colefax way more miserable, and I just didn't think 2088 01:38:03.720 --> 01:38:04.399 that was possible. 2089 01:38:05.039 --> 01:38:08.399 I feel for every single business on Colefax, it'll be 2090 01:38:08.399 --> 01:38:12.279 amazing if any of them are left by the time 2091 01:38:12.279 --> 01:38:15.079 we're all done. Space Ace was the sister game to 2092 01:38:15.159 --> 01:38:17.840 Dragon's Layer. I don't remember that game at all. Do 2093 01:38:17.960 --> 01:38:18.760 we have someone to come. 2094 01:38:18.680 --> 01:38:19.720 In and play? Who's playing? 2095 01:38:20.960 --> 01:38:21.239 God? 2096 01:38:21.479 --> 01:38:24.279 Ryan? I say that because he can hear me out there. 2097 01:38:24.560 --> 01:38:28.199 Ryan always late, Ryan go. 2098 01:38:29.079 --> 01:38:31.760 I mean, technically he's doing us a favor. I probably 2099 01:38:31.760 --> 01:38:34.760 shouldn't give him any ufugh about it. And oh, by 2100 01:38:34.760 --> 01:38:36.920 the way, then all right got crushed yesterday and you know, 2101 01:38:36.960 --> 01:38:41.399 Eat whined about it after the show. Whind about it? 2102 01:38:41.520 --> 01:38:45.479 Centipede that was also a good game. But didn't your 2103 01:38:45.520 --> 01:38:48.920 hand hurt from hitting that roller ball? The only game 2104 01:38:48.920 --> 01:38:51.319 that I've ever been good at with a rollerball is 2105 01:38:51.319 --> 01:38:54.119 is Golden Tea. I still love Golden Tea so fun. 2106 01:38:54.600 --> 01:38:56.600 Ryan Edwards, which video games were you good at and 2107 01:38:56.640 --> 01:38:59.199 not good at back in the day? 2108 01:38:59.279 --> 01:39:00.760 I'm talking about it the day. 2109 01:39:00.880 --> 01:39:03.640 I really like Zelda when it first came out. Played 2110 01:39:03.680 --> 01:39:05.520 that a lot like Arcade Games. 2111 01:39:05.760 --> 01:39:06.880 Yeah, well, no. 2112 01:39:06.880 --> 01:39:10.439 Okay Arcade Yeah. Miss pac Man Oh, I mean you 2113 01:39:10.479 --> 01:39:12.239 can't go along with the pac Man family. 2114 01:39:12.000 --> 01:39:15.279 Of games all pac Man's, but missus pac Man was 2115 01:39:15.279 --> 01:39:15.880 my favorite. 2116 01:39:16.159 --> 01:39:18.359 But I don't know, I just liked her better. 2117 01:39:18.880 --> 01:39:21.720 Maybe maybe the folks, you know, hey, whatever works. I 2118 01:39:22.000 --> 01:39:22.720 I just like the. 2119 01:39:22.600 --> 01:39:23.560 Design of it better. 2120 01:39:23.640 --> 01:39:26.239 I don't know because it was a little different than package. 2121 01:39:26.279 --> 01:39:27.079 Yeah, yeah, for sure. 2122 01:39:27.119 --> 01:39:28.640 So I just like the design of a little better. 2123 01:39:28.680 --> 01:39:29.920 But that was the game I played a lot. 2124 01:39:30.680 --> 01:39:33.880 Now it's time for the most exciting segment all the radio. 2125 01:39:33.680 --> 01:39:37.960 Of this guy, the World of the day. 2126 01:39:38.920 --> 01:39:42.199 All right, there's another one up, I guess in Greenwood Village. 2127 01:39:42.720 --> 01:39:43.520 I love one up. 2128 01:39:43.680 --> 01:39:44.800 Gonna be destroyed by. 2129 01:39:44.720 --> 01:39:46.720 The Colfax project that the other one is going to be. 2130 01:39:46.840 --> 01:39:48.960 Okay, here we go. What's our dad joke of the day? Please? 2131 01:39:49.000 --> 01:39:53.840 Where do dads store all of their dad jokes? I 2132 01:39:53.840 --> 01:39:56.119 don't know the dada base. 2133 01:39:57.159 --> 01:40:01.000 Wow, there's some mac cro meta stuff. 2134 01:40:01.079 --> 01:40:02.079 Yeah, that's a lot. 2135 01:40:02.359 --> 01:40:04.439 Going on there. What's our word of today please? 2136 01:40:04.479 --> 01:40:04.680 Sir? 2137 01:40:04.840 --> 01:40:09.720 Adjective? Okay, what baffo? B o ffo? 2138 01:40:10.039 --> 01:40:13.199 Doesn't that mean super good? Like amazing? Like that's boffo? 2139 01:40:14.279 --> 01:40:16.399 Is she right? She's right? She is right? 2140 01:40:16.600 --> 01:40:20.840 He ey, that's the bee's knees. That word anyway, it's 2141 01:40:20.880 --> 01:40:21.479 an old word. 2142 01:40:22.119 --> 01:40:25.800 How many thunderstorms happen worldwide each year? 2143 01:40:26.680 --> 01:40:28.760 Wow? I mean this has got to be like thousands 2144 01:40:28.760 --> 01:40:29.960 and thousands, you know. 2145 01:40:30.239 --> 01:40:32.760 Let's go with five six hundred. 2146 01:40:32.960 --> 01:40:37.840 Okay, I'm gonna go fourteen thousand, two hundred and one. 2147 01:40:38.159 --> 01:40:41.000 I'll go fourteen thousand, two hundred. 2148 01:40:41.279 --> 01:40:43.840 Wow, are we under by a whole lot? 2149 01:40:44.279 --> 01:40:48.439 Scientists estimate that there are sixteen million storms each year, 2150 01:40:48.920 --> 01:40:53.800 with roughly two thousand thunderstorms in progress at any given moment. 2151 01:40:54.319 --> 01:40:55.520 That is a cool little fact. 2152 01:40:55.640 --> 01:40:57.720 It is cool facts. Yeah, as we sit here looking 2153 01:40:57.720 --> 01:40:58.840 out the way, yes, serious. 2154 01:40:58.560 --> 01:40:59.960 Says we're gonna have one of them here and just 2155 01:41:00.039 --> 01:41:01.960 a moment. What is our jeopardy category? 2156 01:41:02.600 --> 01:41:06.159 That's so cliche, And I'm going to say the word 2157 01:41:06.199 --> 01:41:08.680 go at the end because they're real quick, okay, and 2158 01:41:08.720 --> 01:41:11.239 I want to get them out, all right, better safe 2159 01:41:11.239 --> 01:41:11.680 than blank? 2160 01:41:11.680 --> 01:41:16.520 Go Mandy, what is sorry? That is correct? 2161 01:41:17.119 --> 01:41:20.880 It is always Greeter on the other side said you 2162 01:41:20.960 --> 01:41:21.399 had to wait. 2163 01:41:21.640 --> 01:41:24.880 I'm sorry, but I didn't. Mandy. What is the grass? 2164 01:41:25.039 --> 01:41:26.479 Okay? 2165 01:41:26.159 --> 01:41:30.319 Okay, all right, two bad choices, two bad choices between 2166 01:41:30.319 --> 01:41:31.439 the devil and this location. 2167 01:41:31.560 --> 01:41:34.760 Go Mandy, what is the deep blue c It is correct? 2168 01:41:35.520 --> 01:41:39.119 It doesn't fall far from the tree. Go bran an apple? Correct, 2169 01:41:39.800 --> 01:41:43.520 and it's where the proof of the pod is. Mandy, 2170 01:41:43.560 --> 01:41:50.479 didn't wait again, but we'll go ahead either. Wait, it 2171 01:41:50.520 --> 01:41:56.239 actually has putting in the question? No, hold on, because 2172 01:41:56.279 --> 01:42:00.159 it's it's where the proof of the pudding is, and 2173 01:42:00.199 --> 01:42:03.760 the answer is in the eating. 2174 01:42:03.800 --> 01:42:04.439 Is in the eat. 2175 01:42:06.720 --> 01:42:06.960 I have. 2176 01:42:08.960 --> 01:42:14.439 It's fine one Yeah, I wouldn't I in the pudding. 2177 01:42:14.680 --> 01:42:16.520 Well, but I think obviously we just didn't know that 2178 01:42:16.560 --> 01:42:19.159 there was a second half to that saying. 2179 01:42:19.279 --> 01:42:21.560 So somebody pudding is in the eating. 2180 01:42:21.560 --> 01:42:24.840 You don't know how until you eat some people. 2181 01:42:24.920 --> 01:42:28.560 You know the rules that we live in the society, 2182 01:42:28.720 --> 01:42:30.600 and he laid out the rules, and some people ignored 2183 01:42:30.680 --> 01:42:31.039 those things. 2184 01:42:32.239 --> 01:42:35.880 I will accept that with a win, I will accept it. 2185 01:42:36.439 --> 01:42:39.039 Well, I will concede that point, and I will put 2186 01:42:39.039 --> 01:42:40.119 another w on the wall. 2187 01:42:40.159 --> 01:42:42.399 I appreciate, by the way, yesterday you letting me win 2188 01:42:42.680 --> 01:42:43.640 with my daughter here. 2189 01:42:44.000 --> 01:42:44.800 That was really nice to you. 2190 01:42:44.920 --> 01:42:45.800 I did not let you win. 2191 01:42:45.880 --> 01:42:49.239 That category was super hard, powerfully, Ben was awful. 2192 01:42:49.439 --> 01:42:51.319 So like gave it yesterday. 2193 01:42:51.319 --> 01:42:53.600 He went with zero and it was like lucky to 2194 01:42:53.640 --> 01:42:58.000 be it was zero. I love those where you win 2195 01:42:58.039 --> 01:43:00.640 with zero were even worse than you were. 2196 01:43:00.720 --> 01:43:02.640 But I guess I didn't like sit out. 2197 01:43:02.800 --> 01:43:03.680 No, you did it. 2198 01:43:03.800 --> 01:43:05.560 You wanted fair and square. I'm not complaining about that 2199 01:43:05.600 --> 01:43:07.000 at all. What's coming up on KO sports? 2200 01:43:07.039 --> 01:43:08.920 Oh, we had a lot of fun. Shelby Harrison's studio 2201 01:43:09.279 --> 01:43:11.000 we had also, it's a football talk to get to. 2202 01:43:11.319 --> 01:43:13.640 All right, that's all coming up next. We'll be back tomorrow. 2203 01:43:13.720 --> 01:43:14.399 Keep it on, KOA