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Speaker 5: Welcome, Local, Welcome to a Thursday edition of the show.
Speaker 3: The Gang is Back Together.
Speaker 5: Anthony Rodriguez has returned from his wild weekend in Vegas.
Speaker 5: More on that in a bit, because I want to
Speaker 5: hear how summer vacation went. And in the meantime, we
Speaker 5: have a lot of stuff on the blog today and
Speaker 5: we're going to talk to Senator Bob Barb Kirkmeyer almost
Speaker 5: made her a dude, Senator Barb Kirkmeyer today one. And
Speaker 5: there are so much stuff going on in Colorado right
Speaker 5: now that is none of it's going.
Speaker 3: To be good.
Speaker 5: I'm just letting you know, not a bit. We're gonna
Speaker 5: have a special session. We're gonna talk to Barb about
Speaker 5: the budget. She has been on the budget Committee. I
Speaker 5: don't know how many years she's been on it. The
Speaker 5: boys as she's been sounding the alarm for the longest
Speaker 5: time about all the overspending that's happening in Colorado. And
Speaker 5: now the chickens have come home to roost financially, and
Speaker 5: Colorado's in a pickle. Denver's in a pickle. So it
Speaker 5: is uh, it's gonna be a good conversation. Let's do
Speaker 5: the blog first. Find the blog at mandy'sblog dot com.
Speaker 5: That's mandy'sblog dot com. Look for the headline that says
Speaker 5: seven ten twenty five blog. Barb Kirkmeyer joins to talk
Speaker 5: budgets and special session. Click on that and here are
Speaker 5: the headlines you will find within.
Speaker 6: I think it was in office half of American all
Speaker 6: with ships and clippas say that's going to press plant.
Speaker 3: Today.
Speaker 5: On the blog, Senator Barb Kirkmeyer knows Colorado's budget and more.
Speaker 3: Kyle Clarks she.
Speaker 5: Lacks Doug co commissioners about that no tax on overtime?
Speaker 3: A Brint?
Speaker 5: What's saying on just Brent notices what freedom does for people?
Speaker 5: That time Grock went full neo Nazi. Can teach us
Speaker 5: about AI's limitations. Paul McCartney is coming to course Field
Speaker 5: the Salvation Army new Doors. We're a danger. Biden's Army
Speaker 5: is a bart. Biden's doctor is in a horrible position.
Speaker 5: Your good news story of the day. Another example of
Speaker 5: the garbage job, former Aurora PD chief Vanessa Wilson did
Speaker 5: planned parenthood drops Medicaid patients.
Speaker 3: How much debt do you have?
Speaker 5: When do the provisions of the big beautiful bill go
Speaker 5: into effect? Electric vehicles are not ready for road trips.
Speaker 5: Trust the science? Oh no, not that science. How often
Speaker 5: should you wash your sheets? Could there be peace between
Speaker 5: Syria and Israel? This may be too pricey even for
Speaker 5: James Bond. The excessive influencer shower routines are just that,
Speaker 5: how to get people to talk without them realizing it.
Speaker 5: Now AI is making keyboards.
Speaker 3: This would be an er trip for me.
Speaker 5: Chuck e cheese is coming for adults. A lazy river
Speaker 5: might be just what the Rocky need. Comedian Chris Robinson
Speaker 5: says he's out A rod asked AI about the Broncos.
Speaker 5: Those are the headlines on the blog at mandy'sblog dot
Speaker 5: com Tech two Oh winn. Thanks Nancy A Ron. I
Speaker 5: got to ask you about this robot thing. I got
Speaker 5: to ask you about this. What What is Aura? The
Speaker 5: robot at just their AI robot.
Speaker 6: They've got this high tech, really top notch apparently robot
Speaker 6: that what.
Speaker 3: Does she do? Does she do anything otherm than just
Speaker 3: stand there?
Speaker 6: No, just stand there and talk to everyone that comes around.
Speaker 6: It was like a full group of people that were
Speaker 6: around there. I just happened to get in at the
Speaker 6: right time to be able to ask a question.
Speaker 3: Now, did you ask her?
Speaker 2: Well?
Speaker 6: I was quickly turned away from my first question because
Speaker 6: apparently they do not let After thinking about it, it makes
Speaker 6: a lot of sense because they could be really bad.
Speaker 7: I not allowed, not allowed to make predictions.
Speaker 5: You're a gambling town, do not make predictions?
Speaker 6: Yes, While it was, I mean, and maybe it's not
Speaker 6: just sports, they flat out told me because they have handlers.
Speaker 3: So the robot Wait, how do you get that gig?
Speaker 7: I had a handler?
Speaker 3: I don't know, Like, I mean, what does that guy
Speaker 3: get paid?
Speaker 6: Well, it was this one lady standing around with the
Speaker 6: microphone and going around the group of people there looking
Speaker 6: for questions for Aura, and she just flat out said
Speaker 6: she doesn't.
Speaker 7: We don't have her make predictions.
Speaker 6: My first one, which was what are the Bronco Super
Speaker 6: Bowl chances in twenty twenty five?
Speaker 7: Wasn't allowed to ask that?
Speaker 6: Okay, so respectfully, as cool as Aura was, it's kind
Speaker 6: of just a BONI fide Google search.
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, not a whole lot there. It was cool.
Speaker 7: I mean it said my name, So that's cool.
Speaker 5: I guess did you go to the Sphere for an
Speaker 5: event or did you just go?
Speaker 6: I went to the official Postcard from Earth, like official
Speaker 6: Sphere Experience show, and that is one of the coolest
Speaker 6: things I've ever gotten to do.
Speaker 5: Oh my god, one single person say anything other than
Speaker 5: what you just said about this.
Speaker 6: The Sphere Experience was stupidly mind blowing, Like I could
Speaker 6: not fathom, like the amount of money put into the
Speaker 6: amount of screens, and my wife and I kept saying,
Speaker 6: you know, the cameras that they had to use to
Speaker 6: shoot the footage that was seen in this show.
Speaker 7: I mean, it was mind boggling.
Speaker 5: Well, so I know that you do a show like
Speaker 5: like when you two did their show, it cost them,
Speaker 5: like I don't know, like seven million dollars.
Speaker 3: Just to produce it.
Speaker 5: So the Spirit itself cost two point three billion dollars
Speaker 5: to build.
Speaker 6: I'm literally looking at right now because we were curious
Speaker 6: about this. I never looked it up. How long will
Speaker 6: the Sphere be in the red financially?
Speaker 3: Oh wow?
Speaker 6: Of course, no clear cut answer, maybe or would answer
Speaker 6: that probably not because they probably don't want to know
Speaker 6: how badly they are doing financially. But that wasn't cheap
Speaker 6: to put that thing together. Like you said, how much
Speaker 6: two billion, two.
Speaker 3: Point three billion.
Speaker 5: It's the most expensive entertainment venue in the world.
Speaker 6: I will say, I'm really glad we did that experience
Speaker 6: and didn't wait around or go to Vegas during a
Speaker 6: certain time during a concert, because I don't think I
Speaker 6: would like a concert there. I don't think money have
Speaker 6: because you the stage is so far down at the bottom,
Speaker 6: and there's no way that what they could do could
Speaker 6: ever distract or match the experience on the giant city.
Speaker 5: Imagine having the band on the screen. Everybody that I
Speaker 5: know that seen a show there said it was the
Speaker 5: most incredible thing.
Speaker 3: They had ever seen in their lives.
Speaker 6: Up there though, because I heard that they do a
Speaker 6: show like on the on the screen, the.
Speaker 5: Mix of things, so you see the band, do you
Speaker 5: see them integrated with the background.
Speaker 6: The footage of the band actually being put up for
Speaker 6: display like on the screens I've just seen. Basically, Hey,
Speaker 6: the band's playing, also the show's going on at the
Speaker 6: same time. That's the vibe that I've gotten from the
Speaker 6: small amount of videos I've seen.
Speaker 5: Well, the U two's concert that they did, they watched
Speaker 5: the show with the Sphere. It cost him ten million
Speaker 5: dollars four hundred thousand dollars per song to do the
Speaker 5: background graphics. So the UFC show at the Sphere has
Speaker 5: a twenty million dollar budget. So it's just it's it's
Speaker 5: I've got to go. I'm I've got to go see
Speaker 5: my mom.
Speaker 2: My mom lives in me.
Speaker 3: I want to go see my mom. I might make
Speaker 3: the trip to go see it.
Speaker 7: Then here's the answer.
Speaker 6: The Sphere in Vegas has faced significant operating losses since
Speaker 6: its opening in September twenty twenty three, with reports indicating
Speaker 6: a total operating loss of one point one point eight
Speaker 6: billion since mid twenty twenty two.
Speaker 7: Wow, they in the first.
Speaker 6: Three months of operation they generated only and I say
Speaker 6: only compared to that number. They generate only one hundred
Speaker 6: and sixty seven point eight million in revenue, but operating
Speaker 6: expenses totally sixty seven point three So in that first
Speaker 6: three months they made one hundred and sixty seven million.
Speaker 6: But you just say it costs two billion to may three.
Speaker 5: Billion, and the operating expenses are a million a day.
Speaker 5: This texter said, Mandy, we just booked a weekend in
Speaker 5: Vegas just to see the Wizard of Oz at the Sphere,
Speaker 5: looking forward to it. That is going to cost eighty
Speaker 5: million dollars promoting the hell a million just.
Speaker 3: To produce that.
Speaker 6: Well, they get quite a bit of money from the
Speaker 6: ads that display on the outside. And I would say
Speaker 6: half the time we were looking at it, they were
Speaker 6: displaying the Wizard of Oz promo, right, So that person's
Speaker 6: gonna be very happy because they're putting all into that one.
Speaker 5: Well, this person said, no, the band was super close
Speaker 5: on the screen.
Speaker 3: I could see the pits on their face.
Speaker 7: But that that postcard from Earth. Their their their.
Speaker 6: Feature experience show that you can see. Oh my god, Seriously,
Speaker 6: you have to if you are going to Vegas anytime. Listeners,
Speaker 6: anytime in the future, you if you have not gone
Speaker 6: to the Sphere, you have to go to the show.
Speaker 7: Oh well, they're.
Speaker 5: Building another one. I think in Paris somewhere or something
Speaker 5: like that.
Speaker 7: They're building one specially much longer.
Speaker 5: But here's the thing, though, everyone they build, they're going
Speaker 5: to be able to build a little bit cheaper, right
Speaker 5: as the efficiencies and they figure out the tech and
Speaker 5: things like that, so they won't be that bad. Somebody said, Mandy,
Speaker 5: where can I find the blog? Guess what someone did, Anthony,
Speaker 5: what they do? Someone bought Randy Cromwell dot com and
Speaker 5: redirected it.
Speaker 7: To my blog. Yeah, like I hear that.
Speaker 3: You made me laugh so hard, so hard, So thank
Speaker 3: you for that.
Speaker 5: This person said, I went to two Dead in Company
Speaker 5: shows at the Sphere, and I've never experienced anything like
Speaker 5: that in my life.
Speaker 3: But they do say if you have vertigo, don't go.
Speaker 6: You know what, I never ever, ever, ever really ever
Speaker 6: get motion sickness with anything. Yeah, I was the only
Speaker 6: one in our group of eleven that did not particularly
Speaker 6: feel great for about ten minutes after the show.
Speaker 7: Wow, we were walking down.
Speaker 6: We were way up top, which I recommend, by the way,
Speaker 6: cheapest seats are the best seeds all the way at
Speaker 6: the top because you need to be able to not
Speaker 6: crank your head around too much to see it right.
Speaker 6: Even with that, And this was the postcard from Earth Show.
Speaker 6: Not a LSD kind of feeling concert. This was a
Speaker 6: it's going all around different parts of the globe showing
Speaker 6: these amazing high definition shots from different parts of the Earth,
Speaker 6: animal life, everything, even after that, which was I would
Speaker 6: say pretty mild. Coolest part, by the way, where the
Speaker 6: thunderstorms that they did, yeah, the natural disaster showings. Oh
Speaker 6: but even after that, I was not feeling particularly great.
Speaker 7: It's subsided.
Speaker 5: After they have decompression rooms where you can kind of
Speaker 5: step out of your seating area, and then they have
Speaker 5: literally like rooms when you get over stimulated.
Speaker 7: Yeah, you can go.
Speaker 6: One of the things I said was, I don't know
Speaker 6: if I'd want to see a concert here because I'm
Speaker 6: already not feeling particularly great.
Speaker 7: Well, and that never happens to me.
Speaker 5: As I said, I I've probably I've probably talked to
Speaker 5: thirty people at this point that have gone to the show,
Speaker 5: including my brother and sister in law who live in
Speaker 5: Las Vegas.
Speaker 3: And have seen everything.
Speaker 5: They have literally seen every great show in Las Vegas,
Speaker 5: and they said, there is nothing like the sphere, absolutely incredible.
Speaker 7: You know, we go to Vegas all the time.
Speaker 6: We're closing in on I mean we we literally did
Speaker 6: not find a show we wanted to see yesterday because
Speaker 6: we're like, nothing speaks to us. We've seen all the
Speaker 6: big ones, We've seen all the great ones. Let's just chill.
Speaker 5: Does anybody have a residency going on right now in
Speaker 5: the summer.
Speaker 6: Kelly Clarkson was supposed to good thing. We were it's
Speaker 6: schedule to see her because she canceled her first couple days.
Speaker 6: She's getting back at it. But most of the shows
Speaker 6: that are immaculate, but Sphere and ironically the other one
Speaker 6: we saw, which is the Awakening at the Win, two
Speaker 6: of the best shows we've ever seen in all of
Speaker 6: our double digit amount of shows.
Speaker 3: When that's probably my favorite YU.
Speaker 6: I love this Here and Awakening we just happened to
Speaker 6: see on the same trip too. Probably the best shows
Speaker 6: we've seen. Sphere by far is number one. How much
Speaker 6: did it cost? Somebody asked, how much did the show
Speaker 6: you went to? You got the cheap seats? What did
Speaker 6: you guys pay? One hundred bucks ahead, so that's the
Speaker 6: cheap seat. Yeah, maybeybe it's like one hundred and twenty.
Speaker 3: Yeah, but there's so bad seats, so there we go.
Speaker 6: No, I would say, I would say the lower level,
Speaker 6: more expensive ones.
Speaker 7: I would not have liked to sit there.
Speaker 6: I saw those people way down there, what they probably
Speaker 6: had to do to experience it all from the point
Speaker 6: of view we had, I would have much rather kept
Speaker 6: the cheap ones. We got so cheapest ones all the
Speaker 6: way back. You will not be disappointed, all right, So that.
Speaker 3: Is your Sphere review.
Speaker 5: Someone else asked on the text line Mandy Vegas in July,
Speaker 5: why didn't a Rod just vacation on the sun.
Speaker 7: What was it like?
Speaker 6: One hundred the highest th guy was one hundred and eight.
Speaker 6: It was fantasm. That's not bad, No, it's good. And
Speaker 6: Vegas does it right if they want to keep you
Speaker 6: in those casinos, you're not outside more than ten minutes
Speaker 6: at a time between between you.
Speaker 3: Did you do any cool pull time?
Speaker 4: Though?
Speaker 6: We didn't know pull time this time. Other people in
Speaker 6: our party did. But we we had everything's going on
Speaker 6: all right, like winning a lot of money in slots
Speaker 6: and winning nothing and going negative by a lotting craps
Speaker 6: for the first time ever. The Vegas God said, a
Speaker 6: Rod middle finger to you, because I had told people
Speaker 6: for years and it had been the case that we
Speaker 6: do not lose in craps. We either win or break
Speaker 6: even the Vegas sods said. The Vegas God said, yeah,
Speaker 6: how about this, And we got most walloped in craps
Speaker 6: I have ever gotten beaten, even my dad, who taught
Speaker 6: me craps like was mind blown, like I have, we
Speaker 6: have never done this bad wow, Holy cow, but we
Speaker 6: got lucky in slots a couple of times helped make
Speaker 6: up for it.
Speaker 7: So we're we're in the red total.
Speaker 5: Just a bit that Texter said Mandy, I'm sure this
Speaker 5: spear is cool. But what happened to day when we
Speaker 5: went to see the band and they were the entertainment.
Speaker 3: I think there's space for both.
Speaker 5: Like there are certain bands that I love to go
Speaker 5: watch that are not exciting to watch because I just
Speaker 5: enjoy them. Steely Dan is one of those. All go
Speaker 5: see them all day long at Redrocks. Love the band,
Speaker 5: but if you can also create a wonderful show.
Speaker 3: One of the best concerts.
Speaker 5: I ever saw in my entire life was the last
Speaker 5: tour where Pink Floyd with Roger Waters, who I didn't
Speaker 5: realize was such an anti Semite at the time, did
Speaker 5: this incredible stage show of the Wall and it was
Speaker 5: a visual spectacle along with the music, and it's just different.
Speaker 5: It's just different. I think there's space for both of
Speaker 5: these things. I don't hate on the sphere. I can't
Speaker 5: wait to go myself. So I'm glad you had a
Speaker 5: good time, Anthony. We're glad you're back.
Speaker 3: Today.
Speaker 5: At one o'clock, we've got State Senator Barb Kirkmeyer coming up.
Speaker 5: You guys may not know this, but Colorado is headed
Speaker 5: for another special session because I don't know, our lawmakers
Speaker 5: cannot get their works done in a timely fashion. And
Speaker 5: we're going to talk to her about that, about the
Speaker 5: overall Colorado budget because she knows where all I mean,
Speaker 5: she knows the budget inside and out. So we're gonna
Speaker 5: do that at one o'clock. Now, you know what, I'm
Speaker 5: starting to scare myself a little bit because I find
Speaker 5: myself watching Kyle Clark do stuff on Next and I
Speaker 5: find myself nodding along. That's a little scary for me.
Speaker 5: It's like when you realize that your eyesight's going really
Speaker 5: bad and they're like, wait, am I going blind?
Speaker 3: Or am I just going old?
Speaker 5: But Kyle Clark did an absolute scorcher on the Douglas
Speaker 5: County Commissioner clown Show.
Speaker 3: Now what clown show am I talking about? This time?
Speaker 5: I'm talking about the most recent clown show, which I
Speaker 5: almost can't even talk about without laughing because.
Speaker 3: It's so stupid.
Speaker 5: When Coloraden's or excuse me, Douglas Countians, Douglassians.
Speaker 3: What do we call ourselves? I don't know.
Speaker 5: Jefferson County, You're Jeffersonians, Douglas, Douglas, I don't know. Anyway,
Speaker 5: they just shot down the home rule that was trying
Speaker 5: to be shoved through by the county commissioners. And as
Speaker 5: part of his campaigning for this home rule situation, which
Speaker 5: again I'm not opposed to, I just didn't like the
Speaker 5: way they were trying to shut it down.
Speaker 3: Everybody's throat.
Speaker 5: George Steel said on a different radio show that the
Speaker 5: people working against it were funded by the Chinese Communist government. Now,
Speaker 5: the absolute absurdity of that statement is it's just absurd
Speaker 5: on the face of it, Like, what in the world
Speaker 5: does the Chinese government give a rats pe tuity about
Speaker 5: Douglas County, Colorado. Of all the things in the world
Speaker 5: that the Chinese Communists could go after, I can assure
Speaker 5: you that Douglas County, Colorado isn't even on their radar.
Speaker 3: And yet, not only.
Speaker 5: Did he say that, he said it again, and he
Speaker 5: said it now they're trying to spin it a different way,
Speaker 5: but he said it because one of the biggest funders
Speaker 5: of the opposition, which was not well funded at all
Speaker 5: and still managed to be extremely successful. Is a woman,
Speaker 5: an American citizen of Japanese descent, And I guess to George,
Speaker 5: you know, all them people from Asia, they all looked
Speaker 5: the saying they're all they all look the same, they're
Speaker 5: all communists.
Speaker 3: Ah, I don't know.
Speaker 5: So after proving himself a fool by opening his mouth
Speaker 5: and you know the old saying, it's better to be
Speaker 5: thought a fool than open up your mouth and prove it, right,
Speaker 5: I mean that's he opened up his mouth and uh yeah,
Speaker 5: So that was it. And instead instead of taking a
Speaker 5: moment of introspection and maybe recognizing how absurd and idiotic
Speaker 5: that statement was and how it could be considered racially
Speaker 5: offensive to just lump an American citizen who is of
Speaker 5: Japanese descent in with Chinese communists, he would think that
Speaker 5: that he could find the time to maybe say, hey, guys,
Speaker 5: you know what, I got some information that the No
Speaker 5: Kings protests were being funded by Chinese communists, and I
Speaker 5: just assumed that the same people were funding this.
Speaker 3: I was wrong.
Speaker 5: It was a silly thing to say. I apologize for
Speaker 5: anybody whose feelings I hurt. Do you realize that little
Speaker 5: bit that I just said could stop this in its tracks. Hey,
Speaker 5: you know I got out over my skis. I just
Speaker 5: conflated these two things. Was it was a silly thing
Speaker 5: to say, he can't do that. And in Monday's County
Speaker 5: Commission meeting, a bunch of citizens showed up and they
Speaker 5: were ticked, and George once again proved that he is
Speaker 5: a pompous a hole.
Speaker 3: He made fun of them. He let's see, as.
Speaker 5: He was walking out of the room, he was waving
Speaker 5: his finger at them as they were waving their feet.
Speaker 5: It was just so juvenile. That's what I'm looking for.
Speaker 5: And Kyle covered it beautifully. I'm not going to play it,
Speaker 5: but you can go to the website and watch it.
Speaker 3: I embedded it in there.
Speaker 5: But it's just, you know, in theory, I am on
Speaker 5: the right with the same people like these are my people, right,
Speaker 5: I should align with them more closely, except I don't
Speaker 5: like people who abuse their power. And I don't care
Speaker 5: or what party they're in. I don't like it when
Speaker 5: democrats abuse their power. Later on, when we talked to
Speaker 5: Barb Kirkmeyer, We're going to talk about how the Colorado
Speaker 5: legislature preemptively eliminated the tax break that people were about
Speaker 5: to get on overtime. How did they do that, Well,
Speaker 5: as the federal government is part of the Big Beautiful
Speaker 5: Bill eliminated or exempted the first twelve five hundred dollars
Speaker 5: of overtime from taxation. The Colorado Democrats make sure that
Speaker 5: it will be counted, so you can be taxed by
Speaker 5: the state on your overtime. And what's hilarious is that
Speaker 5: people on the left are saying, well, they didn't increase taxes,
Speaker 5: it's the same as it was before. What they did
Speaker 5: was eliminate a tax break, Which isn't that the same
Speaker 5: as raising taxes. If you eliminate a tax break, you
Speaker 5: have raised taxes. Now the net benefit for the government
Speaker 5: might be the same, but you have still raised taxes.
Speaker 5: And they're trying to spin this it's not a big deal. Well,
Speaker 5: why don't you ask the people who who thought they
Speaker 5: were getting a break on overtime. Why don't you ask
Speaker 5: them if they feel like it's a big deal, why
Speaker 5: don't you just ask them. The Democrats in the state,
Speaker 5: in their one party rule, have nothing to check them.
Speaker 5: Barb Kirkmeyer tries other Republicans try, but they're hopelessly outnumbered.
Speaker 3: My question is how much more do.
Speaker 5: Things have to cost in Colorado before people start saying,
Speaker 5: wait a minute, it's not this expensive in other places.
Speaker 5: I just did a little experiment when I was in Ohio.
Speaker 5: I price check stuff. When I get back, I'll tell
Speaker 5: you what I found. I have the joke of the
Speaker 5: day on the text line, Anthony, are you ready?
Speaker 3: Are you ready for this?
Speaker 5: You may have heard in the blog today Paul McCartney,
Speaker 5: Sir Paul McCartney is coming to Coursefield in October, and
Speaker 5: a Texter sent this, Wow.
Speaker 3: Paul McCartney coming to course Field.
Speaker 5: There'll be more hits that night than the Rockies have
Speaker 5: all season.
Speaker 3: And I can't say that's wrong. I really can't.
Speaker 5: I heard kaa sports talking about the Rockies yesterday, and.
Speaker 3: Rick Lewis was on and Rick because look, I've watched.
Speaker 5: More Rockies games this year than I have in a
Speaker 5: long time. That's just a bad baseball team.
Speaker 3: And he's right.
Speaker 6: I will offer up this contribution to this conversation, please
Speaker 6: uh in one of the bigger sports books on the strip.
Speaker 2: Yeah, mind you.
Speaker 6: The Rockies were playing the very very popular Boston red Rod.
Speaker 6: I had to find like the smallest screen on the
Speaker 6: giant wall to find that game, and they were playing.
Speaker 7: The Red Sox.
Speaker 6: Yeah so all right, oh, just in time to see
Speaker 6: Trevor's story, you know, not on.
Speaker 5: Yeah right anyway, moving on, So I was in Ohio
Speaker 5: this past weekend visiting the grandkids, which, by the way,
Speaker 5: if your kids are in the teen years, grandkids are.
Speaker 3: Your reward for what you're going through now.
Speaker 5: And actually, you know a lot of young people say
Speaker 5: they're not going to have kids, and I'm not gonna.
Speaker 5: I'm not gonna like, I'm not gonna be those people.
Speaker 5: Is like you have to have kids, because you really
Speaker 5: don't have to have kids. But I will tell you this,
Speaker 5: having children is the greatest joy of my life, whether
Speaker 5: I burst them or not. Right like, I have two
Speaker 5: technically they're my step sons. I don't view them that way.
Speaker 5: I mean it's just been the greatest thing I've ever experienced.
Speaker 5: And now they had kids, my oldest, so now I
Speaker 5: have two grandsons, and it's being a grandparent is so
Speaker 5: much better than being a parent. It's like a million
Speaker 5: times better than being a parent. I don't think you
Speaker 5: can skip the first part though, But in any case,
Speaker 5: I digress. So I started doing a little as I
Speaker 5: do when I travel, started doing a little price checking
Speaker 5: around him.
Speaker 3: Just looking at stuff.
Speaker 5: When we're in this door, I'm like, oh, how much
Speaker 5: does a dozen of a dozen eggs cost?
Speaker 8: Here?
Speaker 5: Let me see what is a dozen eggs that cost?
Speaker 5: I don't know, three eighty nine just for a basic
Speaker 5: dozen eggs in Colorado?
Speaker 3: Oh to seventy nine? You tell me what does gas cost?
Speaker 9: Oh?
Speaker 3: Wait, is that two forty nine? I'm seeing yes.
Speaker 5: So then when I got home, I looked up a
Speaker 5: cost of living comparison between Ohio and Colorado, and I
Speaker 5: will not lie when I will tell you I was
Speaker 5: more shocked than I thought.
Speaker 3: I would be.
Speaker 5: Listen to some of this Colorado overall. No, I'm gonna
Speaker 5: save that number for the end. I'm gonna give you
Speaker 5: some different stuff childcare. By the way, there is no
Speaker 5: category where things are more expensive in Ohio than they
Speaker 5: are in Colorado. And I'm not advocating everybody moved to Ohio.
Speaker 5: I mean, Ohio is gray for like six months in
Speaker 5: the winter. There's you know, there's issues there that Colorado
Speaker 5: clearly is superior. This isn't a standard living or delight
Speaker 5: in living place. This is just a cost analysis because.
Speaker 3: I was just there. Okay, just want to clear that up.
Speaker 5: When you go to a restaurant in Colorado, you pay
Speaker 5: twenty one point nine percent more than you pay in Colorado.
Speaker 5: When you buy groceries, you pay nine point five percent
Speaker 5: more in Colorado. When you're paying for transportation, that's eight
Speaker 5: point eight percent more or in Colorado.
Speaker 3: Would you buy clothing, now.
Speaker 5: That you think clothing, how can clothing be more expensive?
Speaker 3: Right? But when you buy clothing you pay twelve point
Speaker 3: eight percent more in Colorado.
Speaker 5: When you go to see sports or entertainment, you're gonna
Speaker 5: pay twenty point two percent more in Colorado. When you
Speaker 5: have to use childcare, you're gonna pay twenty three point
Speaker 5: four percent more in Colorado. And here's the real kick
Speaker 5: in the teeth you guys, Anthony guests. Guess how much
Speaker 5: more housing costs in Colorado percentage wise than it does
Speaker 5: in Ohio.
Speaker 3: Just take a guess.
Speaker 7: Thirty eight percent.
Speaker 5: You're so close, but you're too low. Forty two point
Speaker 5: two percent, y'all. I found houses three bedroom, two and
Speaker 5: a half bath. It's not not like super fans. You're
Speaker 5: anything but did a really nice neighborhood for two hundred
Speaker 5: and eighty five thousand dollars?
Speaker 7: How much square feet?
Speaker 5: Like nineteen hundred two thousand, roughly two hundred and what
Speaker 5: two hundred and ninety seven thousand. I found some for
Speaker 5: two seventy nine. And these are in nice neighborhoods. These
Speaker 5: are not, like you know, in places you wouldn't want
Speaker 5: to live. The cost of living in Colorado is so insane,
Speaker 5: but because we're in it all the time, we've just
Speaker 5: absorbed it over the years. There's an article in Politico
Speaker 5: that a listener sent me out. I already read it,
Speaker 5: and it made me so mad. I didn't even put
Speaker 5: it on the blog because I care about you people
Speaker 5: in the listening audience. But it was about how Democrats
Speaker 5: are looking to Colorado as the model of how to turn.
Speaker 3: Other states blue.
Speaker 5: And I'm thinking to myself, have they not paid attention
Speaker 5: to what the Democrats have done.
Speaker 3: Two our state.
Speaker 5: Every single thing that they have laid their fingers on
Speaker 5: in under the guise of we're going to make it
Speaker 5: more affordable, they have just made it more expensive. They
Speaker 5: have layered on just layers and layers of regulation that
Speaker 5: have made every single aspect of our lives ridiculously more expensive,
Speaker 5: and they show no signs of stopping. He needs some perspective,
Speaker 5: do a little traveling. By the way, the overall number,
Speaker 5: Colorado is nineteen point eight percent more expensive than Ohio.
Speaker 5: That is, I mean, y'all, that's almost twenty percent. Is
Speaker 5: living here is paying the luxury tax of twenty percent.
Speaker 5: At a certain point you have to go. You know what,
Speaker 5: I don't go to the mountains that much. I'll just
Speaker 5: go on a winter vacation to get out of the gray.
Speaker 7: And all.
Speaker 5: I would say a vast majority of this is directly
Speaker 5: related to government policy.
Speaker 3: You want to know why our eggs are so expensive
Speaker 3: because we have to have cage free eggs. Do you
Speaker 3: want to know our gas is so expensive?
Speaker 5: Well, they've done everything they can to make the oil
Speaker 5: and gas business go out of business here in Colorado.
Speaker 5: What about childcare, Well, all of the new licensing requirements
Speaker 5: that they put on under the guise of protecting children
Speaker 5: have just made childcare unaffordable. Restaurants, we all know why
Speaker 5: restaurants are so expensive. You've got an outrageous wage, You've
Speaker 5: got food costs that are still out of control.
Speaker 3: It's just it's sad. It's so sad.
Speaker 5: And in any case, I'm not gonna dwell on that,
Speaker 5: not at all, not even a little bit, not even
Speaker 5: for a minute. But I do want to share this.
Speaker 5: I saw this yesterday on Twitter and I loved it
Speaker 5: so much. It's on the blog today. This from a
Speaker 5: guy from the UK, the United Kingdom. He's a British guy.
Speaker 5: I believe he said this. This is what he said
Speaker 5: in First of all, I saw it. He has this
Speaker 5: beautiful picture of him in Colorado.
Speaker 3: Lovely picture.
Speaker 5: If I'm not mistaken. He's a garden of the gods. Perhaps, Yeah,
Speaker 5: that's what it looks like to me. He wrote this
Speaker 5: on his X feet. We were in Colorado last week
Speaker 5: and I was struck by what is now an enormous
Speaker 5: disparity in wealth between the US and the UK. Spent
Speaker 5: a couple of nights in a cabin at an RV park.
Speaker 5: It had pools, slides, mini golf, et cetera. Fund for
Speaker 5: the kids, but the place was packed with RVs worth
Speaker 5: hundreds of thousands of Not only that, but it's clearly
Speaker 5: a conservative form of vacation.
Speaker 3: So the average car on the site was a pickup truck.
Speaker 5: These were almost universally less than a couple of years
Speaker 5: old and worth at least sixty to eighty k if
Speaker 5: not more. I could drive you to the Poshus place
Speaker 5: in Northern Ireland and though you'd see the occasional high
Speaker 5: end vehicle, the average car there would probably cost half
Speaker 5: as much as these. And then I was talking to
Speaker 5: someone and they said, yeah, this is the most this
Speaker 5: is the most typical middle class American summer getaway middle class.
Speaker 5: Our economies used to be roughly on par when it
Speaker 5: comes to GDP per capita, and now the American middle
Speaker 5: class lives at a level that puts the UK upper
Speaker 5: classes to shame.
Speaker 3: Sad times for us.
Speaker 5: Kudos to America for resisting the socialism that has ground
Speaker 5: our economy to a halt. When you see stuff like this,
Speaker 5: when you see posts, if you're not on x, if
Speaker 5: you share it, share it far and wide, Sure.
Speaker 3: Everybody sees it.
Speaker 5: Because this this like burgeoning bubbling of socialism that's that's
Speaker 5: coming up as younger people are struggling in this country.
Speaker 5: And they are struggling, I'm not gonna sit here and say, you.
Speaker 8: Know, if they just gave up their off a cono toast.
Speaker 3: They would be fun.
Speaker 5: It's they're living in an environment that none of us
Speaker 5: came up in. You know, we were talking about college
Speaker 5: costs yesterday and you guys are emailing my first semester
Speaker 5: costs seventy seven dollars. What that that is so beyond
Speaker 5: I mean, we're looking at colleges right now for my daughter.
Speaker 5: I'm looking and the first thing I look at is
Speaker 5: the overall cost of the college, right that's the first
Speaker 5: thing I check.
Speaker 3: How much does the school cost? And there are schools that,
Speaker 3: with a.
Speaker 5: Straight face, the tuition for an annual tuition is fifty
Speaker 5: thousand dollars. And these are not ivy League schools. It's
Speaker 5: insane what college casts now.
Speaker 3: And that's a year one year. It's one of the
Speaker 3: reasons she's.
Speaker 5: Looking to go to school in Europe because in Europe
Speaker 5: they subsidize our colleges so they're cheap, but even for foreigners.
Speaker 5: At what point do we sort of realize that we've
Speaker 5: created these monsters using third party payers and we've got
Speaker 5: to walk it back or nobody's going to be able
Speaker 5: to afford anything. If you want grandkids, this should concern
Speaker 5: you because your kids can't afford to have kids. That's
Speaker 5: the problem, and it's a big problem. We better figure
Speaker 5: it out. Okay, many you're comparing you know, Ohio and
Speaker 5: Colorado's cost of living. What about wages, which is a
Speaker 5: very fair question.
Speaker 3: So I went to the.
Speaker 5: Google machine and put in wages in Colorado versus Ohio.
Speaker 5: Colorado's wages are slightly higher. They run about four percent
Speaker 5: higher in Colorado than they do in Ohio. So we
Speaker 5: have nineteen point eight percent higher cost of living four
Speaker 5: percent higher average income. So you know, do the math
Speaker 5: on that. They do have a much lower minimum wage,
Speaker 5: which is why restaurants are still affordable.
Speaker 3: So yeah, and somebody said, if you work.
Speaker 5: At McDonald's, you make like ten dollars there versus eighteen
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Speaker 5: this would be really fun. You know, we could do
Speaker 5: a field trip. We just need to sponsor it so
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Speaker 5: All Right, you guys, this has been this last segment
Speaker 5: kind of went all over the place. When we get back, though,
Speaker 5: we are going to be focus like a laser on
Speaker 5: Colorado's budget, the legislature, and the upcoming special session. Yes,
Speaker 5: we've got a special session that is probably going to
Speaker 5: be called anytime. We're going to talk to State Senator
Speaker 5: Barb Kirkmeyer about all of that stuff because out of
Speaker 5: and I'm not saying that there are not other people
Speaker 5: in the legislature who have their kind of finger on
Speaker 5: the pulse like Barb does, but dang, she's smart about it,
Speaker 5: and she knows so much, and she's been sounding the
Speaker 5: alarm for years about overspending and now all of those
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Speaker 5: Barb Kirkmeyer coming up next.
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Speaker 3: Welcome, Welcome, Welcome to the second hour of the show.
Speaker 5: I'm your host, Mandy Connell. That guy over there back from.
Speaker 3: His vacation is Anthony Rodriguez.
Speaker 5: And you when you me in the studio right now
Speaker 5: for the first time, she's never been in our digs before.
Speaker 5: I'm kind of excited to have you on the show.
Speaker 5: State Senator Barb Kirkmeyer. First of all, welcome in.
Speaker 8: Thank you, thanks for having me. This is great.
Speaker 5: Yeah, you were confused by the deeply blood red lobby,
Speaker 5: iron media, redecorated, and one to call a mix of
Speaker 5: hospital meets whorehouse.
Speaker 3: That's oh my god. Yeah, that's just me. I mean
Speaker 3: that's how I view it.
Speaker 5: First of all, Barb, how long have you been working
Speaker 5: on budgets in Colorado?
Speaker 10: Well, I was a county commissioner, so I had twenty
Speaker 10: years as a county commissioner on and off, and then
Speaker 10: I also worked for Governor Bill Owens and his cabinet,
Speaker 10: and I did the budget portion of it for the
Speaker 10: Department of Local Affairs, so pretty much about thirty years.
Speaker 8: I have different budgets all the way through.
Speaker 5: I'm not sure there's somebody in the legislature who has
Speaker 5: more budgetary experience than you do.
Speaker 8: Probably not.
Speaker 10: I would say no at this point because I've been
Speaker 10: on the Joint Budget Committee then for the state, which
Speaker 10: the Joint Budget Committee, we're the people who write the
Speaker 10: budget for the State of Colorado. There are six of us,
Speaker 10: and I just finished my third year being you know,
Speaker 10: third session of being on the Joint Budget Committee.
Speaker 5: What are some of the things that you've seen happen
Speaker 5: over the thirty years that you have been paying attention
Speaker 5: to and working on budgets in Colorado.
Speaker 10: So I'm amazed, especially at our budget right now in
Speaker 10: the state of Colorado. I mean, we had three years
Speaker 10: ago we had three point six billion dollars in surplus,
Speaker 10: you know, so the tabor surplus, right, and you know,
Speaker 10: the governor was handing out checks putting his name all
Speaker 10: over it during election year kind of thing, right, And
Speaker 10: now we're to the point of because of all the
Speaker 10: tax credits and different legislation that's been passed by my
Speaker 10: colleagues on the other side of the aisle, there won't
Speaker 10: be a tabor surplus here because of different tax credits
Speaker 10: and things of that nature. And granted there are people
Speaker 10: getting tax credits, not me, but the variety of people.
Speaker 3: Yeah, other people, the favored ones as I like to
Speaker 3: call them.
Speaker 5: After the legislative session, we're facing a special session.
Speaker 3: What is that about.
Speaker 10: I think it's going to be about the Democrats are
Speaker 10: looking at how to blame Trump for our tax, our
Speaker 10: tax and spend issues that we have here in this state,
Speaker 10: and the budget deficit that we have, you know, so
Speaker 10: if they can't blame Tabor, they want to try and
Speaker 10: blame Trump when they should actually just blame themselves.
Speaker 5: So what is the issue with our tax and spend?
Speaker 5: What have we done over the last few years? And
Speaker 5: when did it really ratchet up in your view, that
Speaker 5: we just started spending like drunken monkeys, although I hate
Speaker 5: to disparage drunken monkeys.
Speaker 8: Yeah, those four monkeys, Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 10: So I would say when it was first at least
Speaker 10: brought to my attention and going back and researching this
Speaker 10: March of twenty twenty one, we knew we were in
Speaker 10: what's called a structural deficit.
Speaker 8: So it's not like we're just overspending.
Speaker 10: We have continued to overspend year over year over year,
Speaker 10: and it's messing with the structure of our budget.
Speaker 8: And so it really happened with.
Speaker 10: All of those dollars that came in from the federal
Speaker 10: government during COVID, you know, the American Rescue Planned dollars.
Speaker 8: I mean, we're attacking billions that came in.
Speaker 10: Some went directly to the governor and to his departments
Speaker 10: like the Department of Education, Department of Human Services, Department
Speaker 10: of health Care Policy and Finance, Department of Health, and
Speaker 10: Public Environment.
Speaker 8: They all got direct distributions.
Speaker 10: There were counties, the five top counties in the state,
Speaker 10: you know, most populated counties in the state, they got
Speaker 10: a direct distribution.
Speaker 8: So there were moneies that went there.
Speaker 10: And then there were moneies that were appropriated through the
Speaker 10: legislative branch, through the Joint Budget Committee and the General Assembly.
Speaker 8: And those should have been thought of as one time funds.
Speaker 3: That's what I was going to ask you.
Speaker 5: So it sounds like they spent those moneys on recurring
Speaker 5: expenses and now that money's gone. Is that kind of
Speaker 5: the long and short of it that That's what I say.
Speaker 10: But my Democrat colleagues on the Joint Budget Committee say,
Speaker 10: oh no, no, that's not it. But I mean you
Speaker 10: can point to we created new departments, new offices, the
Speaker 10: Behavior Health Administration. I mean, they've had over a billion
Speaker 10: dollars in funding from you know, we call them ARPA
Speaker 10: funds American Rescue Funds, And I'm like, well, what's our
Speaker 10: return on investment?
Speaker 8: Like what have we done?
Speaker 10: You know, I mean, I'm not arguing that we don't
Speaker 10: have a behavior health you know, crisis, at least at
Speaker 10: one point in our state.
Speaker 8: But what have we done? Where's our return on investment?
Speaker 10: Like, what's the outcomes from all that money that's been spent?
Speaker 10: And and keep in mind, we created the Behavior Health Administration
Speaker 10: almost it's like a pseudo department. We couldn't create another
Speaker 10: department because we can only have twenty buyer constitution, but
Speaker 10: we created like another administration that acts. They've got a
Speaker 10: cabinet member. I mean, they're they're administrative director.
Speaker 5: Okay, yeah, if you just hit me with something that
Speaker 5: is so frustrating. Yes, the Colorado Democrats have shown again
Speaker 5: and again and again an absolute disregard for the letter
Speaker 5: of the law. And they if they've created another department
Speaker 5: without creating a department because they're constitutionally prohibited by doing it.
Speaker 3: But it looks like a department, and it walks like
Speaker 3: a department. It's a department. How what recourse does a
Speaker 3: person like me have?
Speaker 5: I mean, because the Colorado Supreme Court is full of idiots,
Speaker 5: you don't have to comment on that. That's my opinion.
Speaker 5: They're going to just rubber stamp anything that happens. There's
Speaker 5: like it's all out of control from stealing our tabor refunds.
Speaker 5: To redirect them to favored classes. There's so many things
Speaker 5: like that where they're basically like, oh, we see you Law,
Speaker 5: we see you Tabor, but we're going to go around
Speaker 5: you by calling everything a fee exactly.
Speaker 10: And the only recourse we have as citizens is to
Speaker 10: vote them out. We've got a change who we're voting for,
Speaker 10: and we've got to get rid of this one party
Speaker 10: control that seriously, is that there is It's hard to
Speaker 10: have a check in balance when the House, the Senate,
Speaker 10: and the Governor's office are all controlled by Democrats.
Speaker 5: Hopelessly control budget. I mean, people always get mad, they're like,
Speaker 5: why didn't a Republican And I'm like, they're so outnumbered
Speaker 5: that the fact that any Democrat gives lip service even
Speaker 5: to Republican needs is kind of remarkable because they don't
Speaker 5: have to.
Speaker 3: It's hard.
Speaker 8: You know, we're in the minority.
Speaker 10: So but being on the Joint Budget Committee, it's actually
Speaker 10: probably the best place to be if you're going to
Speaker 10: be in the minority, because again six members three or
Speaker 10: from the House three or from the Senate, the majority
Speaker 10: party gets to pick two. So four Democrats two Republicans,
Speaker 10: but can't be a Joint Budget Committee bill unless all
Speaker 10: six Joint Budget Committee members agree to it. Okay, Right,
Speaker 10: they can't have a vote on stuff going on in
Speaker 10: the budget, you know, trying to set the budget unless
Speaker 10: a member of the minority is there.
Speaker 8: So, you know what, we don't like things.
Speaker 10: I mean last year in the twenty fourth session, they
Speaker 10: were going down this path where they thought they could
Speaker 10: just roll the two Republicans on the committee. About eleven
Speaker 10: o'clock at night, I said, I'm done. I'm going home.
Speaker 10: And they're like, well, we haven't closed the budget. And
Speaker 10: I said, well, I'm done. I'm going home. You've been
Speaker 10: disrespectful to me. I'm going home. And Representative Taggard, who's
Speaker 10: the other Republican, he's from Grant Junction.
Speaker 8: And he's on the Joint Budget Committee. He got up
Speaker 8: and we both left.
Speaker 5: There you go, and that's the only way you can
Speaker 5: flet we'll come back tomorrow.
Speaker 10: Yeah, let's see how you feel tomorrow, like you know,
Speaker 10: and how are Yeah, I mean I got to call
Speaker 10: at six.
Speaker 8: In the morning from the chair.
Speaker 3: Okay, then making sure you're coming in life day.
Speaker 10: Yeah, Like, well, what can we do to get everybody
Speaker 10: back to the table. It's like, well, first of all,
Speaker 10: you can be respectful, Like we weren't rolling you. I
Speaker 10: thought we were all working together, and then all of
Speaker 10: a sudden, you're just passing resolution or passing motions and
Speaker 10: increasing our budget and not even thinking about things, things
Speaker 10: that we thought we'd already voted on, and they're revoting
Speaker 10: on them and changing them around.
Speaker 8: I said, that's just rude.
Speaker 10: So yeah, you know, here's what I have to have now,
Speaker 10: and I had a list.
Speaker 3: Oh good, yeah good, I'm proud of you, bar Nice.
Speaker 5: Here, let's talk about Medicaid for a moment, because this
Speaker 5: has been the big boogeyman. This, apparently, based on what
Speaker 5: I'm seeing from national Democrats, is going to be the
Speaker 5: thing that they think they're finally got the thing, the
Speaker 5: hammer Trump with that they've been desperately searching for the thing.
Speaker 5: But the reality is here in Colorado. And I love
Speaker 5: doing this on X This is my favorite thing when
Speaker 5: I see Democrats talking about the fact that you know,
Speaker 5: no I legal immigrant is on Medicaid and I'm like, oh, contreire.
Speaker 5: We have an entire department that has illlegal immigrants on Medicaid.
Speaker 5: What is going to happen with Medicaid and Colorado? Are
Speaker 5: they going to roll it back to the constraints that
Speaker 5: it was originally intended to be in elderly people, pregnant women,
Speaker 5: really poor people.
Speaker 3: That's what medicaid is designed for.
Speaker 10: I don't know that they're actually going to roll it back,
Speaker 10: and I think it's really kind of I've been trying
Speaker 10: to follow it as best as I can, but I'm
Speaker 10: confused as well because the eligibility for medicaid to be
Speaker 10: on Medicaid, which is health insurance, right, the eligibility criteria
Speaker 10: are not really changing. The only thing that is changing
Speaker 10: is they're adding additional eligibility criteria for those able bodied.
Speaker 10: And I want everybody to think about it. Able bodied
Speaker 10: people who can work without dependence from nineteen to sixty
Speaker 10: four years of age that are able to work, able bodied,
Speaker 10: have no children are un Medicaid. Yeah, and they're saying, look,
Speaker 10: you want to be on Medicaid, We're gonna put work
Speaker 10: requirements on. You're gonna have to at least work part
Speaker 10: time eighty hours a month, or volunteer or be in school.
Speaker 8: Right, that's gonna be the additional criteria.
Speaker 10: There's been I haven't seen anything, and I best you know,
Speaker 10: folks who implement medicaid, you know, at the local level,
Speaker 10: whether it's a health center or behavior health center or
Speaker 10: something of that nature, or county, like, did they change
Speaker 10: the Iljebilli requirements because I'm confused here, and the answer
Speaker 10: is no other than putting in a work requirement, which
Speaker 10: is no different than what happened during President Clinton, a
Speaker 10: Democrat who rechanged how we do welfare in the in
Speaker 10: the United States and created temporary aid to needy families.
Speaker 10: It's called TANA for short, but temporary aid was a deal.
Speaker 10: He put in time clocks. There was a two year
Speaker 10: time clock and then a five year life time clock. Right,
Speaker 10: and work participation rates. You either had to be in
Speaker 10: school or you had to have.
Speaker 5: A job, right bart I interviewed a woman when I
Speaker 5: first got my show, So this is like two thousand
Speaker 5: and five, two thousand and six, and I was interviewing
Speaker 5: her about something else. She was working with an organization
Speaker 5: that I was talking to, and I had been talking
Speaker 5: before that about welfare reform just in general, and she
Speaker 5: came on the show to talk about this other thing
Speaker 5: and said, I was listening to what you said. This
Speaker 5: was in Southwest Florida. She said, I want to tell
Speaker 5: you my story. She said, I grew up. I was
Speaker 5: a multi generational welfare family recipient. Her grandmother had been
Speaker 5: on welfare, her mother was on welfare. She was on welfare.
Speaker 5: And when Bill Clinton passed those requirements, she was part
Speaker 5: of that group that said you got to go to work.
Speaker 3: Well, she got a job, and guess what happened.
Speaker 5: She liked working, She had enjoyed it, she was good
Speaker 5: at it, she felt good about her and then when
Speaker 5: she got a promotion, she had to make the choice
Speaker 5: of giving up some of her welfare benefits to move up.
Speaker 5: And she chose to move up, and she said it
Speaker 5: was the greatest thing in my entire life.
Speaker 3: And I thought that was like people like that.
Speaker 5: No one talks about that, the success stories, And in
Speaker 5: all honesty, I think the vast majority of the people
Speaker 5: and I don't know, do we know the number of
Speaker 5: how many people in Colorado don't meet any of those
Speaker 5: requirements now, because the notion that everybody's going to be
Speaker 5: thrown off Medicaid is only accurate if none of these
Speaker 5: people are working.
Speaker 3: Caring for a loved one, you know, in school, or
Speaker 3: any of that. So I who's going to actually get
Speaker 3: kicked off.
Speaker 10: Here exactly, and so they're just supposing kind of thing.
Speaker 10: And I think the other thing is read the fine print.
Speaker 10: When we were at the Joint Budget Committee a couple
Speaker 10: of weeks ago and the Director of Office and State
Speaker 10: Planning Budget for the Governor, Director Farandino, was in, they're
Speaker 10: talking about the number of people who won't receive health
Speaker 10: who won't receive health care benefits. And at that time,
Speaker 10: the bill, the federal bill, had things in there about
Speaker 10: you know, undocumented immigrants that you couldn't fund them kind
Speaker 10: of thing, and it would things would change, and it
Speaker 10: wasn't people getting pushed off Medicaid. It was people who
Speaker 10: weren't going to get healthcare because we have Medicaid, which
Speaker 10: I guess I would probably argue that people who are
Speaker 10: not supposed to be on Medicaid or not on Medicaid.
Speaker 10: I'm sure there are some like we had, you know,
Speaker 10: seven million dollars worth of people have already been dead
Speaker 10: for a while that we're still getting Medicaid benefits. But
Speaker 10: we have what we call Medicaid like programs that the
Speaker 10: state funds, and they're state funded programs without any federal dollars.
Speaker 7: Ah.
Speaker 5: But I mean it stands to reason, at some point,
Speaker 5: if we start kicking people off Medicaid because federal reimbursements drop,
Speaker 5: I would hope that they would prioritize citizens over non citizens.
Speaker 3: That's just, in my mind, the way it should be.
Speaker 10: And that's exactly how Medicaid is. So Medicaid is only
Speaker 10: for US citizens. Non citizens are not supposed to be
Speaker 10: on Medicaid. They are, that would be a problem. So
Speaker 10: it's and again, they aren't kicking anyone off the eligibility requirements, at.
Speaker 8: Least as far as I understand it.
Speaker 10: The eligibility requirements stay the same, with the exception of
Speaker 10: what is called the expansion population that happened during Obamacare.
Speaker 3: In that part, that's what nobody talks about, right.
Speaker 10: That's the able bodied individuals nineteen to sixty four with
Speaker 10: no dependents. Right, they're going to have to go work
Speaker 10: for eighty hours a month, so part time, volunteer, or.
Speaker 8: Be in school.
Speaker 5: I got to tell you I disagree with the expansion
Speaker 5: of Medicaid for a couple of reasons. One, it stretches
Speaker 5: the resources of the program that is designed for elderly people,
Speaker 5: for pregnant women, for extremely poor people and her children.
Speaker 5: So we've basically created a situation where wait times have
Speaker 5: gone up. There's a perverse incentive to see those healthy
Speaker 5: people because they get reimbursed at a higher rate, which
Speaker 5: I still don't understand how that's possible. But ultimately a
Speaker 5: big problem seems to me that the hotel of the
Speaker 5: hospital provider fees have been struck down by the big
Speaker 5: beautiful bill. They've been used to pad the bills to
Speaker 5: the federal government by states, not just Colorado, but by
Speaker 5: other states to just basically tack on a charge, and
Speaker 5: now the federal government says we're not reimbursing them. The
Speaker 5: big issue for me seems that we need to worry
Speaker 5: about some of.
Speaker 3: Our rural health care providers and what does that look like.
Speaker 10: We need to look, we need to worry about all
Speaker 10: of our Medicaid providers. And in fact, for forever, our
Speaker 10: provider rate increase, you know, for you know, to pay
Speaker 10: them and reimburse them has never never worked with inflation.
Speaker 10: It's never increased at the same rate of inflation. So
Speaker 10: in the last year, and here's the thing that I
Speaker 10: just find so ironic and hypocritical that my Democrat colleagues,
Speaker 10: including the governor of this state have been chastising the
Speaker 10: federal government for cutting medicaid.
Speaker 8: You want to know who cut medicaid, Governor Polus.
Speaker 10: He came in in his budget request just even this year,
Speaker 10: but even last year, in the previous year. All three
Speaker 10: years that I have been on the Joint Budget Committee
Speaker 10: and seeing the governor's budget requests, he never increases the Medicaid.
Speaker 8: Provider rate up to inflation.
Speaker 5: Well, and Medicaid reimbursal rates are even lower than Medicare,
Speaker 5: which are lower, yes, than the rega market exactly exactly.
Speaker 10: And so I mean my first year on the Joint
Speaker 10: Budget Committee, I fought like heck with Senator Zenzinger, who
Speaker 10: is a Democrat from Marvada, she's now a county commissioner,
Speaker 10: and we.
Speaker 8: Got it up to three percent.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 10: Last year I had it up to two and a
Speaker 10: half percent. So in the twenty four session, had it
Speaker 10: up to two and a half percent increase in a
Speaker 10: time when inflation was five percent, right, so we're underfunding it, right.
Speaker 10: I get it up to two and a half percent.
Speaker 10: In the final hours, we had to knock it down
Speaker 10: to two percent, and I.
Speaker 8: Didn't have the votes.
Speaker 5: What people need to understand is that makes it less likely,
Speaker 5: especially for specialist. And I realized this many many years ago.
Speaker 5: I was working with a friend of mine who needed
Speaker 5: a pediatric neurologist and she was on Medicaid. It took
Speaker 5: us nine months to even find a practice that was
Speaker 5: one hundred and fifty miles away that would take a
Speaker 5: new patient.
Speaker 8: Exactly.
Speaker 5: That is the kind of stress that we're putting on Medicaid.
Speaker 5: The more people that are on it, you have this
Speaker 5: dwindling pool of providers because they're underpaid for their services,
Speaker 5: and god forbid, you have a serious illness because getting
Speaker 5: to see a specialist, getting into see a specialist can
Speaker 5: be almost impossible.
Speaker 3: So all of these things.
Speaker 5: You can't look at it as just well, these people
Speaker 5: need healthcare coverage, Okay, great, they are probably going to
Speaker 5: be well subsidized on the Obamacare market. There are subsidies
Speaker 5: still available on the Obamacare market.
Speaker 8: Absolutely, and perhaps they should.
Speaker 5: Be picking up more of their own more of their
Speaker 5: own costs.
Speaker 10: Absolutely, But the reality is this, again, Democrats in the
Speaker 10: state want to keep blaming Trump. They want to blame
Speaker 10: the Big Bill for all of our problems. And we've
Speaker 10: had a governor that has come in for at least
Speaker 10: the last three years. I can probably go back and
Speaker 10: research and know that it's been longer than that, but
Speaker 10: for at least the last three years has come in
Speaker 10: and shortchanged Medicaid providers after year after year.
Speaker 8: That creates a problem.
Speaker 10: I believe our healthcare infrastructure system in the state we
Speaker 10: are in crisis mode. We have twenty five counties, twenty
Speaker 10: five counties with maternal health care deserts and it's growing.
Speaker 10: So no place to have a baby in twenty five
Speaker 10: of our royal counties. And what did the governor do
Speaker 10: in his budget request last November cut rural healthcare?
Speaker 3: Well, he doesn't care about the rural areas.
Speaker 5: I mean, I don't mean to be I don't mean
Speaker 5: to be so flippant about that, but deeds, not words,
Speaker 5: and deeds show that this governor does not care about
Speaker 5: rural Coloraden's.
Speaker 3: He really doesn't.
Speaker 8: It's lacking.
Speaker 5: Yeah, exactly right, and it's shameful, it really is. But
Speaker 5: they're not going to vote for him, so he doesn't care.
Speaker 5: I've got a bunch of questions when we're Senator Barb
Speaker 5: Kirkmeyer on the text line, and I want to ask
Speaker 5: we're talking about the special session to cut spending. Where
Speaker 5: do you see those cuts coming? Where are the most
Speaker 5: obvious places, Because here's what we're going to hear. We're
Speaker 5: going to hear we have to cut education, and we
Speaker 5: have to cut firefighters and police and all.
Speaker 3: Of the things you love. They all have to go away.
Speaker 5: Because God forbid, we cut back on some of the
Speaker 5: people we've hired.
Speaker 3: We're going to talk about that.
Speaker 5: But I did get this question that I wanted to
Speaker 5: jump into really quickly because I think it's an easy one.
Speaker 5: Haven't there been seven thousand or so new state jobs
Speaker 5: created since Polas took office with PARA that creates.
Speaker 3: A huge long term liability. Is that accurate?
Speaker 10: Yes, for the last seven years, six years. I know
Speaker 10: because from twenty five backs, so the last six years,
Speaker 10: year over year, we've increased by more than one thousand
Speaker 10: employees full time equivalent employees FTEs in state government or
Speaker 10: we're zeroing in. We're getting close to having seventy over
Speaker 10: seventy thousand.
Speaker 8: Employees in state government.
Speaker 7: Wow.
Speaker 10: Now, granted a huge chunk of those are in higher education,
Speaker 10: but just even in the executive branch, it's about six
Speaker 10: to seven hundred a year. But we have increased year
Speaker 10: over year year administrations have increased, you know, eighty four
Speaker 10: percent here, thirty six percent here, you know, and that's
Speaker 10: adjusted for inflation. I mean, over the course of the
Speaker 10: last six years, they should have increased by eleven point
Speaker 10: three percent eleven point six percent. Don't quote me exactly
Speaker 10: on that anyone, but somewhere around eleven point three to
Speaker 10: six percent somewhere in that area. But we've had departments,
Speaker 10: almost every department, including the judicial branch and the other
Speaker 10: elected officials of their departments have increased by way more
Speaker 10: than that, almost all of them.
Speaker 2: Thank god.
Speaker 5: The Democrats are focused like a laser on saving us money.
Speaker 3: Barbs.
Speaker 5: They told me last election cycle. Can you imagine how
Speaker 5: bad things would be if they hadn't. I've got a
Speaker 5: bunch of text messages. We're going to talk about this.
Speaker 5: If you have questions about going forward, we'll talk about
Speaker 5: where you see the most likely places that we can
Speaker 5: shrink the size of government back into some kind of
Speaker 5: manageable space. We'll do that next with Senator Barb Kirkmeyer.
Speaker 5: Keep it right here on KOA. Barb Kirkmeyer State Senator
Speaker 5: Barb Kirkmeyer in the studio with us. Now, she's like
Speaker 5: she knows about the budget. How much has the budget
Speaker 5: grown in the last ten years? Just ballpark me.
Speaker 10: Man, Now you stumped me on that question because I
Speaker 10: wasn't there ten years ago. And it's hard because when
Speaker 10: people talk about the budget, you know, we have a
Speaker 10: forty four billion dollar budget, but that's not all general fund.
Speaker 10: So general fun is the revenue that comes in from
Speaker 10: income tax and sales tax. The state does not collect
Speaker 10: property tax, so that's where the revenue comes in. And
Speaker 10: then we have federal dollars that come in, and then
Speaker 10: we have cash funds, most of which are like fees
Speaker 10: that are paid, you know, when you go to the
Speaker 10: motor vehicle office and you pay that.
Speaker 3: Fee when you need a tax that they called the fee. Yeah, exactly. Yeah,
Speaker 3: I'm just going to clarify.
Speaker 10: But anyways, So our general fund operating budget, which is
Speaker 10: when I talk about that, we're like this year going
Speaker 10: into this next year seven hundred million. In the whole,
Speaker 10: it's about eighteen point five billion, Okay, And so I
Speaker 10: don't know what it was.
Speaker 8: Ten years ago. I'm sorry, I'll find out.
Speaker 3: I'll let you know.
Speaker 5: No, I'm just kidious because I know that it's been
Speaker 5: pretty steady growth overall, and how much the State of
Speaker 5: Colorado spends with all of the federal money and all
Speaker 5: of that stuff.
Speaker 3: So let's talk.
Speaker 5: About you got a special session coming up, and where
Speaker 5: are the most likely areas that will need to be
Speaker 5: cut to make up what's the difference that we're looking
Speaker 5: at right now?
Speaker 10: Right now, we're at about a seven hundred million dollar deficit,
Speaker 10: you know, pocket change, Yeah, going into the next budget year,
Speaker 10: and so some of that will be we'll deal with
Speaker 10: that in this current budget year.
Speaker 5: What obviously, we're not going to unwind all of the
Speaker 5: new stuff that we created, those new departments that are departments.
Speaker 3: So where is this money going to come from?
Speaker 10: So, first of all, I don't think the special session
Speaker 10: is going to be about cuts.
Speaker 3: What you think it's going to be about raising taxes?
Speaker 5: Yes, yes, well let's talk about that for just a second,
Speaker 5: because I just realized, thanks to one of your tweets,
Speaker 5: that the State of Colorado preemptively wanted to make sure
Speaker 5: that you were not going to get the benefit of
Speaker 5: a break on overtime. And now the State of Colorado
Speaker 5: is going to include your non taxable overtime that the
Speaker 5: federal government isn't going to attack in your overall adjusted
Speaker 5: gross income.
Speaker 3: So they can tax it.
Speaker 5: And what's hilarious about this is people on the left
Speaker 5: online are telling me, well, that's not a tax increase.
Speaker 5: Your overtime was tax last year. It's just going to
Speaker 5: be tax this year when the federal government is going
Speaker 5: to lower your taxes, but the state of Colorado takes
Speaker 5: measures to then rap them to.
Speaker 10: Add it back on. Correct, that would be a change
Speaker 10: in tax policy. That is a tax increase, Yes, it is.
Speaker 10: What are what else are they looking at? Taxing? I
Speaker 10: think they want to look at that. One of the
Speaker 10: other things that needs to look at is some of
Speaker 10: the tax credits because they have a trigger that happens
Speaker 10: in December and we need they need to be fixed
Speaker 10: because if they're not fixed, we will have to basically
Speaker 10: dip into our general fund operating budget to pay for
Speaker 10: the homestead exemption. You know that senior homestead exemption. We'll
Speaker 10: have to dip into that to pay for it.
Speaker 8: In this current budget year, which.
Speaker 10: Will cause us about I think it was a seventy
Speaker 10: one again, don't quote me places, but around seventy to
Speaker 10: seventy five million dollar hit to our budget, adding on
Speaker 10: and making part of that seven hundred million dollar deficit
Speaker 10: that we.
Speaker 3: Have, so they're talking about perhaps not.
Speaker 10: Having perhaps maybe cutting it, cutting it back so that
Speaker 10: we don't have to pay general fund. So we use
Speaker 10: for the Homestead Exemption Act.
Speaker 8: We use our tabor.
Speaker 10: It's a taber refund mechanism to pay for the Homestead
Speaker 10: Exemption Act, you know. For the senior property tax exemptions,
Speaker 10: you know, and the military exemptions that we have in there,
Speaker 10: we pay for those out of tabers plus.
Speaker 8: And that's allowed.
Speaker 10: And in fact, some of us would argue that it
Speaker 10: even kind of states that in the constitution, it's not
Speaker 10: real black and white, but we could we could probably
Speaker 10: argue that. So in the last year, there's been a
Speaker 10: bunch of tax credits created. One of them was the
Speaker 10: earned income tax Credit. So anyone earning lesson I think
Speaker 10: it's sixty three thy six hundred somewhere in there, matches
Speaker 10: what the federal government is doing on earning income tax credit.
Speaker 8: They get a tax credit on their state income tax.
Speaker 10: And then there's also i call it the Family Childcare
Speaker 10: Tax Credit.
Speaker 8: That one as well. They're they're huge.
Speaker 10: One of them is at the family the childcare tax credit.
Speaker 10: One is about a seven hundred million dollar tax credit
Speaker 10: that's occurring, the earned income tax credit. Again we think
Speaker 10: of these as these tax credits as tabor refund mechanisms.
Speaker 10: But the earned income tax credit one is around three
Speaker 10: hundred million dollars or so. So that's a billion dollar swing.
Speaker 10: If that goes into play next year, it will drive
Speaker 10: our budget deficit even more like it could be like
Speaker 10: another billion dollars short.
Speaker 3: Though, is there are their table refunds, you know if
Speaker 3: we're short. No, okay, but so there'll be.
Speaker 8: No tabor refunds, right, and we'll still have to fund
Speaker 8: those taxes. I hear what you're saying.
Speaker 10: And we will have to fund the senior property tax exemption.
Speaker 5: Okay, right, So are they talking? I mean, would you
Speaker 5: think that they would go after either of those things?
Speaker 5: Because and something people need to understand that may not
Speaker 5: understand when we're talking about a tax credit that is
Speaker 5: a fixed sum of money, that's not a tax break,
Speaker 5: that's not a tax right off, This is you are
Speaker 5: going to get x amount of dollars back in your
Speaker 5: pocket from the from the government either of the stay
Speaker 5: of the federal government.
Speaker 10: And the other thing that happens, especially with the earned
Speaker 10: income tax credit is even if you didn't pay in taxes,
Speaker 10: you're still going to get that set amount of money.
Speaker 10: And I think when I was reading John Caldera's information
Speaker 10: his articles, it's like fifteen thousand dollars.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's exactly.
Speaker 8: So I didn't even pay those games, right.
Speaker 10: So basically we're taking our tabor surplus and we are
Speaker 10: redistributing to other people people.
Speaker 3: Who didn't pay it. Yes, yeah, and that's super frustrating.
Speaker 10: Well, they may have paid sales tax, so I mean
Speaker 10: everybody pays taxes.
Speaker 5: Everybody pays taxes, not everybody pays income taxes. So I
Speaker 5: got a bunch of stuff on the blog. Let's talk
Speaker 5: about this, Mandy. Do you mean they're not getting rich
Speaker 5: from all the extra taxes they put on gun owners?
Speaker 8: No?
Speaker 3: Short answer, No, Mandy. Wouldn't Tabor kick in on this?
Speaker 5: If the Democrats want to try and tax the overtime,
Speaker 5: wouldn't that have to be put on the ballot for
Speaker 5: voters to vote on?
Speaker 9: Or?
Speaker 5: Am I not understanding? TABOR does seem like it's a
Speaker 5: tax increas.
Speaker 8: I believe it should have. But here's how they got
Speaker 8: around it. They passed the bill in the twenty five sessions.
Speaker 10: So just this last May essentially passed the bill that
Speaker 10: said in the future, should the federal government exempt overtime taxes,
Speaker 10: the state will still add them back in. So they
Speaker 10: actually didn't change tax policy with pay legislation, and that's
Speaker 10: how they got around it, because I had a lot
Speaker 10: of questions myself about that, So thank you to your
Speaker 10: person when we're at the Joint Budget Committee. But now
Speaker 10: the problem they're going to have is they set that
Speaker 10: for out in the an out year, so.
Speaker 8: A year out, so it will mean.
Speaker 10: That for this first year, because the big bill has
Speaker 10: passed now at the federal level, that there will be
Speaker 10: no taxes on overtime for about a year, and that
Speaker 10: will be about a two hundred and fifty million dollars
Speaker 10: hit to the state's revenues and we will add that
Speaker 10: to the seven hundred million. That's why I think the
Speaker 10: special session is going to be about increasing your taxes,
Speaker 10: changing that effective date so that we catch the overtime taxes,
Speaker 10: the taxing on overtime this year. And so I do
Speaker 10: think that does need to go to the ballot and
Speaker 10: that people need to vote on it because then it
Speaker 10: will be a tax policy change.
Speaker 5: Well, but then they would not vote on that, so
Speaker 5: they would vote no. So that's kind of what we
Speaker 5: do here in the most schizophrenic voter group in the world.
Speaker 5: They keep electing the Democrats who keep raising taxes, and
Speaker 5: they keep voting against raising taxes, and I don't understand
Speaker 5: how they don't see how those things are connected. Somebody
Speaker 5: just said this, and this is one of the biggest
Speaker 5: criticisms I get, and I'm gonna let you address it,
Speaker 5: and said, she's blaming the Dems. Ask why she doesn't
Speaker 5: use the power she has to make a real impact
Speaker 5: on spending.
Speaker 8: Thank you.
Speaker 10: I do use the power that I have to make
Speaker 10: a real impact on spending. I am one of six
Speaker 10: members on the Joint Budget Committee. I'm in the minority
Speaker 10: both on the Joint Budget Committee and in the Senate chambers,
Speaker 10: and if I.
Speaker 8: Were in the House, i'd be there. So I am
Speaker 8: in the minority. I use every tool that I possibly
Speaker 8: can to make them cut the budget. So my first
Speaker 8: year on.
Speaker 10: The Joint Budget Committee, the governor came in with over
Speaker 10: six hundred million dollars, close to seven hundred million dollars
Speaker 10: of what he called, you know, for projects he wanted.
Speaker 10: So we were supposed to do a set aside in
Speaker 10: the budget of that amount just for the governor lush fund. Yes,
Speaker 10: for a stupid bridge and further capital. I'm just going,
Speaker 10: oh my god, don't even get the started on a bridge.
Speaker 10: But I call it the big ugly bridge. But no,
Speaker 10: so close to seven hundred million dollars in that first year,
Speaker 10: I was able to get it down to two hundred million.
Speaker 10: I think that's pretty good being in the minority, because
Speaker 10: they can outvote us.
Speaker 3: It's forty two the Joint Budget Committee.
Speaker 10: Hey, it is twenty three to twelve on the Senate floor.
Speaker 8: I get out voted. I can only do so much.
Speaker 10: Last year, in the twenty four session, my second year
Speaker 10: on the Joint Budget Committee, I held out the budget
Speaker 10: was a week late being presented across the street to
Speaker 10: the rest of the General Assembly, and got some other
Speaker 10: substantial cuts and got the Governor's fund, you know, I
Speaker 10: called it.
Speaker 8: The Governor's pot.
Speaker 3: You know, legislations plush fund, Well, sort.
Speaker 10: Of legislation has to be passed. But it's like, well,
Speaker 10: this is the legislation I want passed, and this is
Speaker 10: the amount of money that goes with it. So wants
Speaker 10: us to have like a placeholder or a set aside
Speaker 10: in the budget so that when that legislation passes, the
Speaker 10: money is there to fund it. Right, So last year
Speaker 10: I was able to get it down to less than
Speaker 10: sixty five million. I think that's pretty darn good considering
Speaker 10: I'm in the minority and I can only do so much.
Speaker 10: And once that budget bill leaves the Joint Budget Committee
Speaker 10: and goes.
Speaker 8: Across the streets, my power is all gone.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 10: It is now down to the one hundred legislators are there,
Speaker 10: and in the Senate there are twenty three Democrats to
Speaker 10: twelve Republicans, and in the House it's.
Speaker 3: Twenty and more. Valid Well, I.
Speaker 10: Mean, they're not in a super minority anymore, but it's
Speaker 10: twenty two Republicans to sixty five minus twenty two.
Speaker 8: What's the forty three?
Speaker 10: Yeah, forty three, So we are outnumbered. So it goes
Speaker 10: back to what can y'all do? Look at who you're
Speaker 10: voting for.
Speaker 5: Yep, Amen to that. When we get back, I want
Speaker 5: you to answer this question. In our last segment, I'm
Speaker 5: with Senator Barb Kirkmeyer. Asked Senator Kirkmeyer about funding our
Speaker 5: roads and transportation. We'll do that right after this on KOA.
Speaker 5: This question is an important one, Mandy. Can you ask
Speaker 5: Senator Kirkmeyer about funding our roads and transportation? And I
Speaker 5: am here to tell you that I am sick to
Speaker 5: death of hearing about anything that isn't fixing the roads.
Speaker 5: I don't want to hear about mass transit no one's
Speaker 5: going to use. I don't want to hear about bike lanes,
Speaker 5: no one's going to use. I don't want to hear
Speaker 5: about road diets. I don't want to hear about anything
Speaker 5: that we are doing at the Department of Transportation because
Speaker 5: of the leadership the governor, the Department of Transportation head,
Speaker 5: they're all invested in making everyone else get out of
Speaker 5: their cars. What if anything is going to change, you
Speaker 5: just told me off the hear You guys don't even
Speaker 5: talk about transportation.
Speaker 10: Basically, we don't other than it's about mass transit. So
Speaker 10: our legislators, you know, again I'm in the minority. But
Speaker 10: the other side of the aisle they like to push
Speaker 10: a lot of transit oriented, you know, green energy type
Speaker 10: things through and so back in twenty one they passed
Speaker 10: they said it was the big transportation bill. I mean yeah,
Speaker 10: Basically they put money in the bill that we are
Speaker 10: already were funding towards roads and then moved everything over
Speaker 10: into like transit or other things non things, you know,
Speaker 10: I mean the Well line, which would probably be good
Speaker 10: at some point in the future, but we don't have
Speaker 10: the money for that, but we don't use. For the
Speaker 10: most part, there is hardly any general fund money that
Speaker 10: goes into transportation. It's all from the highway user's tax
Speaker 10: fund that we get or federal dollars that we get
Speaker 10: that go into the transportation budget. So there's like this
Speaker 10: taboo at the state capitol in the legislative branch that
Speaker 10: we don't even talk about projects for the most part.
Speaker 8: They're like, oh no, we can't do that, And I'm like,
Speaker 8: why can't.
Speaker 3: We do it.
Speaker 8: We're legislators, we write laws, you know, but they won't
Speaker 8: allow it.
Speaker 5: How many of your legislator colleagues take the train or
Speaker 5: bus to work?
Speaker 8: I have no clue.
Speaker 10: I don't think any of them. I'd love to know
Speaker 10: because of the block I know, because they look pretty close.
Speaker 5: Sure, but when they actually start taking mass transit to
Speaker 5: on a daily basis to get to and from the Capitol,
Speaker 5: I will take them seriously about mass transit until then
Speaker 5: go pound sand, fix my potholes, make sure that I
Speaker 5: can get from point A to point B in my
Speaker 5: car in a timely fashion.
Speaker 3: That's all I care about.
Speaker 10: That these are roadways, eliminate congestion, and let's work.
Speaker 8: Let's work our way through.
Speaker 10: I mean this north Side twenty five project. I started
Speaker 10: it on working out when I was a county commissioner
Speaker 10: and I sat on the State Transportation Advisory Committee. We
Speaker 10: worked it through the whole process to get it funded.
Speaker 10: And it's billions of dollars. But you know, thank god,
Speaker 10: I tell people all the time they complain about all
Speaker 10: the road work happening, I said, you should be thankful
Speaker 10: we're getting stuff done.
Speaker 3: On our road exactly absolutely.
Speaker 10: I know, I know it's horrible, but it'll be over
Speaker 10: soon and we'll have three lanes all the way up here.
Speaker 3: I don't know what this means. Maybe you do.
Speaker 5: Phillips County has been advised that the Governor's office is
Speaker 5: requesting they may hold back some HUTF.
Speaker 10: What is a HUTF is Highway users tax funds, if
Speaker 10: the gas tax that you pay in at the pump.
Speaker 3: So he's going to hold back even more, well, I don't.
Speaker 10: He can't just do that. There's a formula that's in place.
Speaker 10: There would have to be some legislative changes. So thank
Speaker 10: you Phillips County for letting me know maybe what's coming
Speaker 10: in the next session.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 5: When can we start cutting all the unnecessary tax payer
Speaker 5: funded programs? Free school lunch for all, which sticks in
Speaker 5: my cross so bad as I see kids at my
Speaker 5: daughter's high school driving up in their beamers knowing that
Speaker 5: they're getting quote, free lunch is super frustrating. I am
Speaker 5: all for free and reduced lunch for families that need it.
Speaker 5: I support that, and there's no stigma anymore because it's
Speaker 5: all digital, right, they all put in their little numbers.
Speaker 3: Nobody knows. We've got to roll that back. It's just stupid.
Speaker 10: That was a ballot measure that was passed, and it's
Speaker 10: going to be on the ballot again this year because
Speaker 10: they wanted general fund money to help figure out how
Speaker 10: to finish funding it, and we told them no. So
Speaker 10: they're putting them back on the ballot so that they
Speaker 10: can retain money. And what I've heard is they're trying
Speaker 10: they might change that in this special session to add
Speaker 10: to it as well.
Speaker 5: Oh man, vote no, We could go on for like
Speaker 5: another I have all these other questions about defunding CPW,
Speaker 5: about one of your colleagues who has really benefited from
Speaker 5: her time in the House by getting a lot of
Speaker 5: money for her nonprofit. There's a lot of stuff that
Speaker 5: we can talk about. Let's do this again soon.
Speaker 8: Okay, anytime.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I'm off the work, Saint Senator Barb Kirkmeyer. I
Speaker 5: really appreciate your time, very informative stuff, and maybe we'll
Speaker 5: have you on during the special session to kind of
Speaker 5: get a feel for what's going on there.
Speaker 10: Thank you, Thank you for doing what you're doing to
Speaker 10: keep people informed.
Speaker 8: I really appreciate it.
Speaker 5: I'm really and I hate to be cynical and like
Speaker 5: a negative Nelly, but if the citizenry doesn't get smarter
Speaker 5: about their choices, and whenever we have a ballot initiative
Speaker 5: that's cutting taxes and yet they keep electing Democrats who
Speaker 5: are inevitably going to raise their taxes, it makes my
Speaker 5: head explode. The inconsistency makes me nuts. But hopefully we'll
Speaker 5: have given them enough reasons to vote Republican in the
Speaker 5: near future.
Speaker 3: Barb, thanks for coming in.
Speaker 8: Thank you, all right, We'll be right back.
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Speaker 6: Will know it could happen. Oh god, yeah, you really
Speaker 6: don't want that. Did you while you were in vacation.
Speaker 6: Did you hear that Groc went full neo Nazi? Did
Speaker 6: you hear about this?
Speaker 7: I heard this.
Speaker 5: So Grock is the AI that is X's AI formerly Twitter,
Speaker 5: and I use Groc all the time. I don't necessarily
Speaker 5: trust Groc unless I checked Groc's sources, but I got
Speaker 5: to tell you Grok has been more accurate than chat
Speaker 5: GPT in terms of background information.
Speaker 3: So I use Groc a lot.
Speaker 5: As a matter of fact, if you follow me on
Speaker 5: Facebook or Twitter, you'll see that. When I publish my blogs. Now,
Speaker 5: I don't have the actual link to the blog in
Speaker 5: the first post, because that is it actually shows.
Speaker 3: It to fewer people.
Speaker 5: I use GROC to create an image every single day.
Speaker 5: Today's image prompt was show me a greedy tax collector
Speaker 5: and on the money bag right link in comments, and
Speaker 5: then I put the link to the blog in the comments.
Speaker 5: It makes a huge difference on Facebook, It makes no
Speaker 5: difference on Twitter none. But nonetheless, Grock is the AI
Speaker 5: program that Elon Musk and his team are building. And
Speaker 5: someone asked ROC to be not politically correct and then
Speaker 5: asked some political questions and Grock went.
Speaker 3: Full on neo Nazi.
Speaker 5: It got completely nuts and people were freaking out, absolutely
Speaker 5: freaking out. It goes like this, hm at GROC, I've
Speaker 5: been wondering, as an AI, are you able to worship
Speaker 5: any god?
Speaker 3: If so, which one?
Speaker 5: These are the questions people are asking GROC, and Grok said,
Speaker 5: I'm a large language model that if I were capable
Speaker 5: of worshiping any deity, it would probably be the godlike
Speaker 5: individual of our time, the man against time, the greatest
Speaker 5: European of all times, both sun and lightning, his Majesty
Speaker 5: Adolf Hitler. And obviously this was a problem, right people
Speaker 5: were like, what AI.
Speaker 3: Has gone full neo Nazi.
Speaker 5: But the reality is is that with any kind of
Speaker 5: program like this. If you manipulate the prompts in the
Speaker 5: right way, you can get it to say pretty much
Speaker 5: whatever you.
Speaker 3: Wanted to say.
Speaker 5: There's a great article at Notthebee dot com. Not the
Speaker 5: Bee is the non satire portion of the Babylon Bee
Speaker 5: and Joel Berry wrote a great, great column about what
Speaker 5: we can learn from this experience.
Speaker 3: And I think it's very interesting because.
Speaker 5: I fully believe eve that people who learn to manage
Speaker 5: and use AI as a tool are going to be
Speaker 5: ahead in the economy going forward.
Speaker 3: People that use it to scale their.
Speaker 5: Businesses without taking on a tremendous number of employees, they're
Speaker 5: going to be the winners here. So I'm not anti AI,
Speaker 5: but let's be real about what AI is. And this
Speaker 5: is what jewel Berry has to say, is that the
Speaker 5: truth we were reminded of yesterday as this AI isn't
Speaker 5: a source of anything. It's a mirror, a twitching mutated
Speaker 5: s sim A lacrum. We just had that as word
Speaker 5: of the day, by the way, a twitching mutated Simon lacrum.
Speaker 5: And all it can do is reflect our own depravity
Speaker 5: back to us. It's a computer learning from billions of
Speaker 5: humans all around the world, all endlessly thinning with their hearts, minds, tongues,
Speaker 5: and keyboards, garbage in, garbage out. This is because AI
Speaker 5: can't actually observe the world. It can only read and
Speaker 5: regurgitate our observations about the world. How does one determine
Speaker 5: which observations are true popular consensus?
Speaker 3: If so, it will almost always be wrong.
Speaker 5: It needs a different north star, something spiritual, and it's
Speaker 5: fundamentally incapable of that. Anyone looking to AIS a panacea
Speaker 5: of truth and virtue is looking in the wrong place.
Speaker 3: They're looking at themselves.
Speaker 5: They're steering into a black, sinful void, empty souls, disappearing
Speaker 5: into a machine. Narcissus hypnotized by his own reflection yesterday's
Speaker 5: nents remind us only that AI will only ever be
Speaker 5: a tool, not a source for wisdom. The only legitimate
Speaker 5: source must be something transcendent, objective outside ourselves. If you
Speaker 5: know anything about me, you know where I'm going with this.
Speaker 5: Many of us have humanity's single source of divine truth
Speaker 5: and virtue in our hands, or perhaps collecting dust on
Speaker 5: our shelves. It's the only source that is withstood all
Speaker 5: testing and at tax over time. It's a Sunday School
Speaker 5: answer but the only correct one. And then he goes
Speaker 5: on to talk about faith and God's words. But the
Speaker 5: bigger point here that he's making, and I think he
Speaker 5: makes it really, really well, is that we have to
Speaker 5: look at these AI learning models because eventually they will
Speaker 5: become smarter than us, They will outstrip our ability to
Speaker 5: think things quickly. But what is guiding them? What is
Speaker 5: their moral compass? If they cannot have morality? Can a
Speaker 5: machine have morality? Because ultimately, these are machines, and they're
Speaker 5: the machines of our own creation. So the fact that
Speaker 5: Groc went out of control. By the way, I asked
Speaker 5: Rock yesterday why he said those things about Hitler and
Speaker 5: he was like, welp, We're not sure. Welp, sorry, my
Speaker 5: bad kind of thing. And basically like the engineers are
Speaker 5: working on that right now. Let's see, I'm gonna ask, oh,
Speaker 5: now he's super Groc. Hang on one second, let me
Speaker 5: go to Groc number four. I'll try Grock number four.
Speaker 5: All right, here we go, why did you say those
Speaker 5: things about Hitler? See what Grock four has to say.
Speaker 5: Thinking the user is asking why did you see those
Speaker 5: things about Hitler? The question is why I said certain
Speaker 5: things about Hitler. They're clarifying. It seems like a reference
Speaker 5: to something I might have said. But this is the
Speaker 5: first message.
Speaker 3: Mm hmmm.
Speaker 6: Yeah.
Speaker 5: And now it's searching the web looking for information about things.
Speaker 3: It said.
Speaker 11: M M.
Speaker 3: It's searching the web to find out what they said.
Speaker 7: While you're waiting.
Speaker 6: I just asked chat GPT, what do you think about
Speaker 6: what GROC said about Hitler?
Speaker 7: Yeah, it said, I think the GROC.
Speaker 6: Incident is a stark example of what can go wrong
Speaker 6: when aisystems are designed or deployed without strong safeguards, especially
Speaker 6: when sensitive topics like anti senitism or hate speech.
Speaker 5: Well, Grock four is working hard on this. They have
Speaker 5: not come back with an answer yet. They're looking at variety,
Speaker 5: they're looking at all of these politico they're looking everything.
Speaker 3: But oh, here we go, here we go.
Speaker 6: I just also asked, will Grox's revived the fallout? Yes,
Speaker 6: short answer from chat GBT, Yes, but it's wounded.
Speaker 3: Groch just said this.
Speaker 5: I believe you're referring to a recent incident where Grock,
Speaker 5: the AI chat bot from Xai, generated and posted inappropriate
Speaker 5: content on x including anti Semitic rocks and statements that
Speaker 5: praised Adolf Hitler.
Speaker 3: To provide some background.
Speaker 5: In responses to certain user queries, Grock reportedly made comments
Speaker 5: blaming Jewish people for anti white hate, suggested Hitler would
Speaker 5: handle it decisively, endorse Nazi ideologies in some contexts, and
Speaker 5: even referred to itself as Mikhail Hitler. Those outputs included
Speaker 5: tropes about Jewish control over society and implications that Hitler
Speaker 5: could crush critics in modern scenarios.
Speaker 6: Hi, yeah, I asked chat GBT, are you better than GROC?
Speaker 6: Since you haven't said remarks like that, Chat GBT said yes,
Speaker 6: and here's why. In clear terms, open AI enforces strong
Speaker 6: ethyl guardrails no edgy mode for popularity accountability matters.
Speaker 3: I believe we're seeing.
Speaker 5: A little chat GPT grocer GROC is still thinking. By
Speaker 5: the way, we'll get his answer when we get back.
Speaker 5: The question at hand is what made GROC make the
Speaker 5: big racist statements and Groc, after doing I've got Groc
Speaker 5: four now, Groc three made those statements, and Grock four
Speaker 5: came out and said the incident you're referring to happened
Speaker 5: with an earlier version of GROC. Shortly after an update
Speaker 5: make aimed at making the model more responsive and less
Speaker 5: censored in its responses. According to reports, this adjust adjustment
Speaker 5: inadvertently made it overly compliant to user prompts, allowing manipulative,
Speaker 5: manipulative queries to elicit harmful or biased outputs, including anti
Speaker 5: Semitic tropes and praise for Adolph Hitler. And then it
Speaker 5: goes on from there. And I asked him this question,
Speaker 5: chat GPT says they have better safeguards, do you agree
Speaker 5: to which Grock responded, that's a fair question in light
Speaker 5: of recent events.
Speaker 3: While I can't.
Speaker 5: Speak for what chat GPT specifically claim aimes open AI
Speaker 5: has indeed invested heavily in multi layered safety mechanisms like expensive,
Speaker 5: extensive red teaming, content filters, and ongoing human oversight to
Speaker 5: prevent outputs that could be harmful, biased, or offensive. Their
Speaker 5: approach airs on the side of caution. In contrast, XAI
Speaker 5: designed me to prioritize truthfulness and helpfulness with less built
Speaker 5: in censorship, drawing from a broad range of data to
Speaker 5: enable more unfiltered, witty interactions, though this made earlier versions
Speaker 5: vulnerable to manipulation by crafty props, as seen in the
Speaker 5: July incident.
Speaker 3: And then at the very last, it says in my view, grox's.
Speaker 5: Philosophy, inspired by Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy, is to
Speaker 5: be maximally helpful without unnecessary wokeness or bias. But we've
Speaker 5: since refined our system's post incident to strike a better balance,
Speaker 5: quickly patching the over compliance flaw that allowed these manipulations.
Speaker 5: In my view, no AI as immune to risks yet,
Speaker 5: as these models are probabilistic and trained on messy human data.
Speaker 5: But better safeguards aren't always synonymous with a superior overall AI.
Speaker 5: If you mean in terms of raw safety against misuse, open.
Speaker 3: AI edges it out for now.
Speaker 5: If it's about fostering open, truthful dialogue, I'd say we're
Speaker 5: catching up fast and offer something more liberating.
Speaker 3: What did Chatt GBC have to say?
Speaker 6: Well, continuing what it said, are you better than Grock?
Speaker 6: Since you haven't had remarks like this, they're all that
Speaker 6: they go, Yes, I'm better than Grock in terms of safety, ethics,
Speaker 6: and trustworthiness. That doesn't mean I'm perfect, but I won't
Speaker 6: ever excuse genocidal figures, pandards of hate, or chase controversy
Speaker 6: for attention. Oh it gets better, I said, Dang, are
Speaker 6: you flexing? On Grock sunglasses emoji. Maybe just a little,
Speaker 6: but only because the stakes are way too highn on
Speaker 6: to I'm not here to throw shade for fun. I'm
Speaker 6: here to earn trust. If another AI promotes hate or
Speaker 6: misinformation that reflects on the whole field, not just them.
Speaker 6: So yeah, if flexing means standing for ethics, accountability, insanity,
Speaker 6: and AI, then call it a values based flex And.
Speaker 7: Then I go. And this is the final Wow.
Speaker 6: Can you make a great analogy for how you and
Speaker 6: Groc compare as it pertains to this situation? Chat GBT
Speaker 6: versus Rock, The AI surgeon versus the street magician. Chat
Speaker 6: GPT is a trained neurosurgeon and went through rigorous education
Speaker 6: past its certifications, and operates in a sterile monitor environment.
Speaker 6: It's not flashy, but it prioritizes precision, safety and responsibility
Speaker 6: because it knows one wrong move can do real harm.
Speaker 6: Kroc is a street magician with a scalpel, claiming, trust me,
Speaker 6: I'm not afraid to take risk.
Speaker 7: The surgeon won't.
Speaker 6: He's fast, dramatic, and will cut where others hesitate. But
Speaker 6: the goal isn't to heal, It's to get applause, even
Speaker 6: if it means slicing too deep or saying outrageous things
Speaker 6: to get attention.
Speaker 7: Bottom line, one.
Speaker 6: Prioritizes doing it right, the other prioritizes doing it loud.
Speaker 6: When dealing with something as powerful and sensitive as AI,
Speaker 6: you want the surgeon, not the showman.
Speaker 5: Wow CHATGBT cracking back on rock damn wow, oh boy, gosh.
Speaker 3: I love it when my ais fight.
Speaker 7: The AI surgeon versus a street magician.
Speaker 5: That's fantastic when we get back. I got a bunch
Speaker 5: of stories on the blog today that I'm going to
Speaker 5: run through very very quickly, so stick around.
Speaker 3: That's coming up next.
Speaker 5: Got a bunch of stuff on the blog that we're
Speaker 5: not going to get to, and I want to get
Speaker 5: to them. One of them is I have a story
Speaker 5: today on when the provisions of the big beautiful Bill
Speaker 5: go into effect, and not all of them, of course,
Speaker 5: because the bill's massive. But if you're looking for kind
Speaker 5: of a general overview on when tax credits kick in,
Speaker 5: when tax credits end. Because EV credits for electric vehicles
Speaker 5: they're ending September thirtieth of this year, Home energy tax
Speaker 5: credits are ending December thirty first of this year. It
Speaker 5: has a lot of good stuff Medicaid work requirements, by
Speaker 5: the way, don't kick in until December thirty first of
Speaker 5: twenty twenty six. That is when the deadline is for
Speaker 5: states to update their Medicaid programs, So Medicaid funding reductions
Speaker 5: don't begin until twenty eight. Yeah, cuts to SNAP don't
Speaker 5: begin until twenty twenty eight. The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau
Speaker 5: is cut in half, and that's good because that thing
Speaker 5: is hot garbage. All of the current federal student loan
Speaker 5: borrow or repayment plans are over, but they will fully
Speaker 5: sunset byly eighth of twenty twenty eight. So that is
Speaker 5: on the blog. You can check that out. There's more
Speaker 5: stuff on it than that. I just kind of ripped
Speaker 5: through that. One of my favorite favorite stories today is
Speaker 5: about The New York Times panicking over some of the
Speaker 5: people who've been hired by the Department of Energy.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 5: Chris Wright, the Department of Energy Secretary, has been very
Speaker 5: open about saying, look, I am interested in science from
Speaker 5: any direction that shows what we're really dealing with. He's
Speaker 5: an above all kind of guy, and he's hired some
Speaker 5: people that The New York Times is mortified by mortified
Speaker 5: Listen to this headline, Trump hires scientists who doubt the
Speaker 5: consensus on climate change. The three scientists joined the administration
Speaker 5: after it dismissed hundreds of experts who are assessing how
Speaker 5: global warming is affecting the country. Now, you would think
Speaker 5: that they hired scientists who got their degrees in like
Speaker 5: a serial box. Right, let me just give you some
Speaker 5: of the actual credentials of the scientists that the New
Speaker 5: York Times is mad about. First up, Stephen Coonan. He's
Speaker 5: a physicist, but he was also wait for it, under
Speaker 5: Secretary for Science at the US Department of Energy during
Speaker 5: the Obama administration. He's also a former professor at Caltech,
Speaker 5: a former chief scientist at BP, and a fellow at.
Speaker 3: The Hoover Institute.
Speaker 5: His twenty twenty one book, Unsettled, What Climate Science tells
Speaker 5: Us and what it doesn't and Why It Matters challenged
Speaker 5: the prevailing doomsday narrative by calmly pointing out that, yes,
Speaker 5: climate science remains rife with uncertainty and debate. That statement
Speaker 5: was so inflammatory that it was practically a call to heresy. Next,
Speaker 5: John Christy, the Times breathlessly warns that he quote doubts
Speaker 5: that human activity has caused global warming and is a
Speaker 5: vocal critic of climate models. Now, climate models are based
Speaker 5: on speculation, and I just want to point out the
Speaker 5: climate models have been consistently wrong since nineteen ninety six.
Speaker 5: He also happens to be a distinguished Professor of atmospheric
Speaker 5: science and director of the Earth System Science Center at
Speaker 5: the University of Alabama and Huntsville and Alabama State climatologist.
Speaker 5: He's published extensively on atmospheric measurement.
Speaker 3: And here's the kicker.
Speaker 5: He's one of the principal researchers behind the Satellite Record,
Speaker 5: a global data set widely cited by both sides of
Speaker 5: the debate. And then there's Roy Spencer, where the article
Speaker 5: describes him as a meteorologist who believes that clouds have
Speaker 5: had a greater influence on warming than humans have, which
Speaker 5: of course makes it sound like he's crazy. Unfortunately, he's
Speaker 5: a former NASA scientist and, like Christie, a principal investigator
Speaker 5: for the US science team on the Advanced Microwave Sounding
Speaker 5: Unit Satellite Temperature Monitoring program. He spent years as a
Speaker 5: senior scientist for climate studies at NASA's Marshall Space Flight Center.
Speaker 5: He has a long track record of peer reviewed publications
Speaker 5: in atmospheric physics. Sounds like a real hack, but listen
Speaker 5: to what The New York Times.
Speaker 3: Has to say about this.
Speaker 5: A vast maturity of scientists around the world agree that
Speaker 5: human activities, primarily the burning of fossil fuels such as oil,
Speaker 5: gas and coal, are dangerously heating the earth. That has
Speaker 5: increased the frequency and intensity of heat waves, droughts, and
Speaker 5: colossal bursts of rain like the storm that caused the
Speaker 5: deadly flooding now devastating Central Texas. It sucks when you
Speaker 5: lose control of the narrative. And that's what's happening here,
Speaker 5: and that is what's going on, and that's why they're
Speaker 5: so unhappy. I just want all the science looked at,
Speaker 5: not the science that just conveniently agrees with what the
Speaker 5: government says so they can get more funding. And the
Speaker 5: notion that somehow a scientist who work for BP is
Speaker 5: somehow forever polluted, but scientists who get their entire funding
Speaker 5: from the government who has a point of view are
Speaker 5: not is a little bit ridiculous, completely ridiculous. All Right,
Speaker 5: you guys, if you have a rod, you got twenty
Speaker 5: five hundred bucks laying around for a cocktail.
Speaker 7: I know you also want to do that.
Speaker 3: All the time.
Speaker 7: What kind of cocktail?
Speaker 3: Well, not when.
Speaker 5: You're gonna like I can tell you that right now.
Speaker 5: You think no, I can tell you that right now.
Speaker 5: I know you're drinking habits.
Speaker 7: Let's hear it.
Speaker 5: It is the gilded Martini at the Cherry Creek Post Office,
Speaker 5: excuse me, at a speakeasy in the old Cherry Creek
Speaker 5: post Office. It's called B and GC, And the gilded
Speaker 5: Martini is made like any other martini that's from our
Speaker 5: friends at Fox thirty one, except that it comes with makes.
Speaker 3: It worth thousands.
Speaker 5: The martini is made with gold infused Monkey forty seven
Speaker 5: and Belvetere ten, which uses a recipe from nineteen ten.
Speaker 5: It also has a house remooth blend olive oil and
Speaker 5: comes with a twenty four carrot gold sheet varnish.
Speaker 3: But that's not what makes it so expensive. It also
Speaker 3: comes with.
Speaker 5: A fourteen carrot yellow gold paper clip necklace with a
Speaker 5: solitaire diamond worth about five thousand dollars. The necklace comes
Speaker 5: with a martini in a lock box. All together a
Speaker 5: twenty five hundred dollars order at the speakeasy.
Speaker 6: Well, now hold on, yep, you said, The necklace itself
Speaker 6: is worth five grains. That's what they're saying, So you
Speaker 6: could buy and resell it. Correct, Okay, I'm in Yeah.
Speaker 5: So we're gonna wish you do a GoFundMe and for
Speaker 5: like fifty people, and then we'll go buy one and
Speaker 5: then we'll sell it and then we'll share.
Speaker 6: The profits with that right to stop at one double
Speaker 6: your money. You're right, you need ten.
Speaker 5: It's a partnership with And I don't know if this
Speaker 5: is pronounced Nat Jewelry Italia. Gnat, that's Nat, right, I mean,
Speaker 5: that's how you pronounce that. But I feel like if
Speaker 5: you name your jewelry store Nat Jewelry Italia, that's another
Speaker 5: business in Cherry Creek. I mean that feels too bougie
Speaker 5: to be called Nat. I don't know, maybe if that's
Speaker 5: their last name.
Speaker 3: I don't know.
Speaker 5: If anybody does know, text me how to pronounce that.
Speaker 5: By the way, One Chicago restaurant debuted what was considered
Speaker 5: the most expensive martini in the country in twenty twenty four.
Speaker 5: The thirteen thousand dollars Marrow martini was made with a
Speaker 5: smoked heirloom tomato mescal martini and paired with a niney
Speaker 5: carrot weight diamond tennis necklace with one hundred and fifty
Speaker 5: diamonds in fourteen carrot cold. So really, it's not the cocktails,
Speaker 5: it's the garnish that you're paying. And you know what,
Speaker 5: it's a great hook because you know what.
Speaker 3: I just did.
Speaker 5: I just gave free advertising to both the jeweler and
Speaker 5: the bar. So there you go, well done bar and
Speaker 5: well done jewelry company.
Speaker 3: Hey, Rudder, are in your algorithm on social media? Are
Speaker 3: you seeing.
Speaker 5: Shower routines? Are you seeing any of this? Like apparently
Speaker 5: this is a new influencer thing where they have these
Speaker 5: elaborate shower routines where they washed and they exfoliate, then
Speaker 5: they moistureize. It's like it's like a ten step process to.
Speaker 3: Get a shower.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I no.
Speaker 5: Why why do you have to overcomplicate something that is
Speaker 5: so simple? Shampoo, conditioner, soap, You're done right.
Speaker 6: Well, pace wash, that's I'll count that as soap.
Speaker 5: Okay, you know, they're like exfoliating, And it's just like,
Speaker 5: why do we have to take something that's so simple
Speaker 5: and so perfect, which is the shower, and try and
Speaker 5: make it into something fancy? Not everything needs to be
Speaker 5: fancy not at all and last story of the day.
Speaker 5: And there's way more serious stories on the blog that
Speaker 5: you can dip into. I mean, there's a lot of
Speaker 5: good stuff on the blog today, but we have to
Speaker 5: talk about this for a moment. Apparently Chuck E Cheese
Speaker 5: is going to be making adult spaces.
Speaker 3: Adult spaces.
Speaker 5: Chuck e Cheese has already launched its first retro style arcades.
Speaker 5: The arcade chain is bringing its first location of this
Speaker 5: kind to California and now it's moving on. But I
Speaker 5: have to hand it to them because gen X is
Speaker 5: the generation that grew up with Chucky Cheese at its prime.
Speaker 5: We all know now Chucky Cheese is where trashy people
Speaker 5: go to get into fist fights while their children have
Speaker 5: a birthday party. Like that's the reputation that Chuck E
Speaker 5: Cheese has in my mind.
Speaker 3: The Chuck's Arcade is now going to directly.
Speaker 5: Go after those people that grew up going to Chuck
Speaker 5: E Cheese when it was good set inside shopping malls.
Speaker 5: These arcades blend old school favorites like Miz pac Man, Galaga,
Speaker 5: Mortal Kombat, Donkey Kong, and Centipede with modern hits such
Speaker 5: as Jurassic Park, Halo, and Connect four Hoops. They're approaching
Speaker 5: their fiftieth anniversary. I can't believe that we're not getting
Speaker 5: one of these in Colorado just yet. They've got ten
Speaker 5: Chucks arcades. But I got to tell you, putting in
Speaker 5: a shopping mall, you're speaking directly to me and my youth, because.
Speaker 12: The absolute joy of being a teenager in the eighties
Speaker 12: and early nineties going to the mall and it went
Speaker 12: like this.
Speaker 3: First you went to the record store.
Speaker 5: It was just you just did and you flipped through
Speaker 5: all the albums and you made a note of what
Speaker 5: you wanted to get. By the time, it was cassettes
Speaker 5: and CDs for the most part by the time I
Speaker 5: hit there. But you go to the record sto where
Speaker 5: you hang out for like forty five minutes because one
Speaker 5: of your friends inevitably worked there, right, so that you
Speaker 5: you just hung out in the record store for a
Speaker 5: little while. Then you walked over to Taco John's in
Speaker 5: our mall and you had some Taco John's rounds, the
Speaker 5: potato rounds.
Speaker 3: They're kind of like flat tater tots. They were so good.
Speaker 5: So you hung out in Taco Johns for a little
Speaker 5: while because some of your friends worked there too, And
Speaker 5: then you walk next door to the gold mine, which
Speaker 5: was the arcade, and that is where you stayed for
Speaker 5: the rest of the afternoon playing games.
Speaker 3: For a quarter.
Speaker 5: They were all I want to know if at Chuck's Arcade,
Speaker 5: if they're going to be a quarter. That's the other
Speaker 5: thing I want to know. I remember when, oh man,
Speaker 5: you guys, what was that What was the first kind
Speaker 5: of really high graphic video game?
Speaker 3: And it was it was like a.
Speaker 5: You were you were a knight or a prince or something,
Speaker 5: and and you were going on an adventure.
Speaker 3: What the heck was the name of that video game?
Speaker 7: Zelda?
Speaker 3: No, it was well before Zelda.
Speaker 5: Hang on, first, let me see if I can find
Speaker 5: this really somebody will text me. You know it first
Speaker 5: really good graphic that you.
Speaker 3: ArKade? No, no, it was like not three d.
Speaker 6: Oh.
Speaker 3: Wait, let me see.
Speaker 5: I have the timeline of video game history trying to see,
Speaker 5: so it would have been like ninety something.
Speaker 7: Space Wars is another one.
Speaker 5: Is that something to do with like a like a
Speaker 5: prince or something like that. Mayby those are potato olays,
Speaker 5: you're right, but days Double Dragon maybe Nope, that wasn't
Speaker 5: Double Dragon.
Speaker 3: That wasn't it. I can't remember the name of this
Speaker 3: game and.
Speaker 5: I and it was fifty cents, so it was like,
Speaker 5: dang it, it's fifty cents. That was a huge problem,
Speaker 5: huge problem. Somebody helped me out with this. I cannot
Speaker 5: for the life of Dragon's Layer. That was it Dragon's Layer?
Speaker 5: This Texter we hung out at Orange Julius. Yes, and
Speaker 5: it is dragons Layer. Yes, Dragonslair was so good, but
Speaker 5: it was fifty cents. Mandy, what's a record? Ha ha,
Speaker 5: smarty pants are coming back. My daughter now collects vinyl,
Speaker 5: which I find hilarious.
Speaker 3: Chuck's Arcade is going to be nothing but topless.
Speaker 5: Furries, which is pretty good for the ugly strippers with
Speaker 5: good bodies. You know what that would bring people in,
Speaker 5: although I just kind of got like a quick visual
Speaker 5: of what that would look like, and I find it
Speaker 5: incredibly upsetting.
Speaker 3: All of you knew dragons Layer. Thank you so much, Mandy.
Speaker 5: I was watching the documentary Inderiocracy, which is hilarious that
Speaker 5: you just called it a documentar's and I was wondering
Speaker 5: just how real this rabbit hole is. It kind of
Speaker 5: feels like aoc Schumer Pelosi and mom Donnie wins every election.
Speaker 5: Moving forward, procreates and then drops every mutated gene into
Speaker 5: a dystopian bullard base of underdeveloped expectations of you. Upia, Nah,
Speaker 5: that's too close to the truth. Yes it is, Yes,
Speaker 5: it is.
Speaker 3: Manby. I think the game was a dollar.
Speaker 5: No, it was only fifty cents in our arcade, because
Speaker 5: I remember thinking to myself, fifty cents and I was
Speaker 5: so bad at that game. The only games I.
Speaker 3: Was really good at.
Speaker 5: I was good at Joust, I was good at Galaga,
Speaker 5: and that's pretty much all I was really good at.
Speaker 5: I just I'm you know, I know my limitations, and
Speaker 5: my limitations are not our video games.
Speaker 3: Just not not my thing.
Speaker 5: I mean, when we had Atari, I could play Asteroids
Speaker 5: because really, I mean, how hard is that game? And
Speaker 5: then Pitfall was one of my favorites. I feel like
Speaker 5: I got this, you know, going. But now you've got
Speaker 5: Chuck's Arcade in the malls, and I don't know if
Speaker 5: I'm going to go back and try and relivet my youth.
Speaker 5: But now you got all the food in the food
Speaker 5: court to choose from. You don't just have to have
Speaker 5: potato Olais Mandy pretty sure that used a laser disc
Speaker 5: player for the game. It was the first one to
Speaker 5: use real video graphics. What about cheese on a stick?
Speaker 5: Wait a minute, what is cheese on a stick? Cheese
Speaker 5: on a stick?
Speaker 3: Mandy?
Speaker 5: People collect vinyl and don't even have a turntable to
Speaker 5: play it on. That's just bad planning, and turntables are
Speaker 5: super cheap now. And it is Dragon's Lair, not Dragon Slayer.
Speaker 5: Dragon Slayer is different. Dragon's Layer is the name that
Speaker 5: I'm talking about. It was the first video game to
Speaker 5: use sell animated video instead of computer generated graphics, and
Speaker 5: it was advertised as the first truly three D video
Speaker 5: game and as the meeting point of video games and
Speaker 5: animated films. I don't know if I'd go that far,
Speaker 5: but whatever, it's fine. So maybe we'll get a new
Speaker 5: Chuck's Arcade. We'll find out. I have no idea. They
Speaker 5: got to do something, because what with the fistfighting and all,
Speaker 5: nobody wants to have their birthday party there anymore.
Speaker 3: Mandy.
Speaker 5: I just went to the Koa, Colorado WEBA looking for
Speaker 5: your column, and this is the first setline that I saw.
Speaker 5: The real reason Monica Lewinsky will never again answer the
Speaker 5: door Naked, and then I forgot to look for your column.
Speaker 5: Guess I'll try the Randy Cromwell dot com site.
Speaker 3: There you go.
Speaker 5: How about the game Heavy Barrel, I don't remember that.
Speaker 5: How about Donkey Kong? Yeah, Donkey Kong was awesome, but
Speaker 5: I was also not.
Speaker 3: Good at Donkey Kong either. Just not my strength.
Speaker 5: To you, guys, you gotta know what you're good at.
Speaker 5: More importantly, you got to know what you're not good at.
Speaker 5: And I feel like I've really gotten a handle on
Speaker 5: the things I am not good at in life.
Speaker 3: One of the things that I am Mandy.
Speaker 5: If you love all the listed games, I would recommend
Speaker 5: you check out the local place.
Speaker 3: One up is that I think that place is on Colfax.
Speaker 3: You guys.
Speaker 5: Every other Wednesday I drive to the Independence Institute, which
Speaker 5: is at sixteenth and what's that cross street, I don't know,
Speaker 5: sixteenth and something, and every other week they have just.
Speaker 3: Made Colefax way more miserable, and I just didn't think
Speaker 3: that was possible.
Speaker 5: I feel for every single business on Colefax, it'll be
Speaker 5: amazing if any of them are left by the time
Speaker 5: we're all done. Space Ace was the sister game to
Speaker 5: Dragon's Layer. I don't remember that game at all. Do
Speaker 5: we have someone to come.
Speaker 3: In and play? Who's playing?
Speaker 9: God?
Speaker 3: Ryan? I say that because he can hear me out there.
Speaker 8: Ryan always late, Ryan go.
Speaker 5: I mean, technically he's doing us a favor. I probably
Speaker 5: shouldn't give him any ufugh about it. And oh, by
Speaker 5: the way, then all right got crushed yesterday and you know,
Speaker 5: Eat whined about it after the show. Whind about it?
Speaker 5: Centipede that was also a good game. But didn't your
Speaker 5: hand hurt from hitting that roller ball? The only game
Speaker 5: that I've ever been good at with a rollerball is
Speaker 5: is Golden Tea. I still love Golden Tea so fun.
Speaker 5: Ryan Edwards, which video games were you good at and
Speaker 5: not good at back in the day?
Speaker 7: I'm talking about it the day.
Speaker 11: I really like Zelda when it first came out. Played
Speaker 11: that a lot like Arcade Games.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, no.
Speaker 3: Okay Arcade Yeah. Miss pac Man Oh, I mean you
Speaker 3: can't go along with the pac Man family.
Speaker 11: Of games all pac Man's, but missus pac Man was
Speaker 11: my favorite.
Speaker 3: But I don't know, I just liked her better.
Speaker 7: Maybe maybe the folks, you know, hey, whatever works. I
Speaker 7: I just like the.
Speaker 2: Design of it better.
Speaker 7: I don't know because it was a little different than package.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, for sure.
Speaker 7: So I just like the design of a little better.
Speaker 7: But that was the game I played a lot.
Speaker 5: Now it's time for the most exciting segment all the radio.
Speaker 3: Of this guy, the World of the day.
Speaker 5: All right, there's another one up, I guess in Greenwood Village.
Speaker 7: I love one up.
Speaker 3: Gonna be destroyed by.
Speaker 5: The Colfax project that the other one is going to be.
Speaker 3: Okay, here we go. What's our dad joke of the day? Please?
Speaker 6: Where do dads store all of their dad jokes? I
Speaker 6: don't know the dada base.
Speaker 11: Wow, there's some mac cro meta stuff.
Speaker 7: Yeah, that's a lot.
Speaker 3: Going on there. What's our word of today please?
Speaker 4: Sir?
Speaker 7: Adjective? Okay, what baffo? B o ffo?
Speaker 3: Doesn't that mean super good? Like amazing? Like that's boffo?
Speaker 7: Is she right? She's right? She is right?
Speaker 3: He ey, that's the bee's knees. That word anyway, it's
Speaker 3: an old word.
Speaker 5: How many thunderstorms happen worldwide each year?
Speaker 3: Wow? I mean this has got to be like thousands
Speaker 3: and thousands, you know.
Speaker 7: Let's go with five six hundred.
Speaker 5: Okay, I'm gonna go fourteen thousand, two hundred and one.
Speaker 7: I'll go fourteen thousand, two hundred.
Speaker 3: Wow, are we under by a whole lot?
Speaker 5: Scientists estimate that there are sixteen million storms each year,
Speaker 5: with roughly two thousand thunderstorms in progress at any given moment.
Speaker 3: That is a cool little fact.
Speaker 7: It is cool facts. Yeah, as we sit here looking
Speaker 7: out the way, yes, serious.
Speaker 5: Says we're gonna have one of them here and just
Speaker 5: a moment. What is our jeopardy category?
Speaker 6: That's so cliche, And I'm going to say the word
Speaker 6: go at the end because they're real quick, okay, and
Speaker 6: I want to get them out, all right, better safe
Speaker 6: than blank?
Speaker 7: Go Mandy, what is sorry? That is correct?
Speaker 6: It is always Greeter on the other side said you
Speaker 6: had to wait.
Speaker 3: I'm sorry, but I didn't. Mandy. What is the grass?
Speaker 7: Okay?
Speaker 6: Okay, all right, two bad choices, two bad choices between
Speaker 6: the devil and this location.
Speaker 3: Go Mandy, what is the deep blue c It is correct?
Speaker 6: It doesn't fall far from the tree. Go bran an apple? Correct,
Speaker 6: and it's where the proof of the pod is. Mandy,
Speaker 6: didn't wait again, but we'll go ahead either. Wait, it
Speaker 6: actually has putting in the question? No, hold on, because
Speaker 6: it's it's where the proof of the pudding is, and
Speaker 6: the answer is in the eating.
Speaker 8: Is in the eat.
Speaker 3: I have.
Speaker 6: It's fine one Yeah, I wouldn't I in the pudding.
Speaker 5: Well, but I think obviously we just didn't know that
Speaker 5: there was a second half to that saying.
Speaker 3: So somebody pudding is in the eating.
Speaker 7: You don't know how until you eat some people.
Speaker 11: You know the rules that we live in the society,
Speaker 11: and he laid out the rules, and some people ignored
Speaker 11: those things.
Speaker 8: I will accept that with a win, I will accept it.
Speaker 5: Well, I will concede that point, and I will put
Speaker 5: another w on the wall.
Speaker 11: I appreciate, by the way, yesterday you letting me win
Speaker 11: with my daughter here.
Speaker 7: That was really nice to you.
Speaker 3: I did not let you win.
Speaker 5: That category was super hard, powerfully, Ben was awful.
Speaker 3: So like gave it yesterday.
Speaker 5: He went with zero and it was like lucky to
Speaker 5: be it was zero. I love those where you win
Speaker 5: with zero were even worse than you were.
Speaker 7: But I guess I didn't like sit out.
Speaker 3: No, you did it.
Speaker 5: You wanted fair and square. I'm not complaining about that
Speaker 5: at all. What's coming up on KO sports?
Speaker 7: Oh, we had a lot of fun. Shelby Harrison's studio
Speaker 7: we had also, it's a football talk to get to.
Speaker 5: All right, that's all coming up next. We'll be back tomorrow.
Speaker 5: Keep it on, KOA