WEBVTT 1 00:00:00.520 --> 00:00:04.559 It's n side with Dan Ray. I'm w BESI cast 2 00:00:04.599 --> 00:00:39.640 in some new video. 3 00:00:42.039 --> 00:00:47.200 Every time I hear this, I just tingle. I don't 4 00:00:47.200 --> 00:00:51.880 know why. I don't worry because I am a huge 5 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:57.759 James barn fan and this music, a collaboration of John 6 00:00:57.920 --> 00:01:04.760 Berry and Martin Norman, is mint five stars across the board. 7 00:01:06.799 --> 00:01:10.400 Yes, Morgan, I'm just gonna say that the gentleman who 8 00:01:10.519 --> 00:01:15.400 played that guitar is a very famous British guitarist named 9 00:01:15.519 --> 00:01:19.159 Vic Flick, who I believe passed away in the last 10 00:01:19.239 --> 00:01:21.879 couple of weeks. So it's that's a nice tribute to him, 11 00:01:22.439 --> 00:01:27.719 that guitar riff. Interestingly, John Barry, the primary composer of 12 00:01:27.760 --> 00:01:31.280 the James Bond theme, never saw the first James Bond 13 00:01:31.319 --> 00:01:36.400 movie before he composed that. That guitar thing so so crazy. 14 00:01:36.879 --> 00:01:38.840 He never realized how he nailed it. 15 00:01:39.879 --> 00:01:42.079 He nailed it, Boy, didn't nail it. 16 00:01:42.920 --> 00:01:43.200 He did. 17 00:01:43.359 --> 00:01:46.120 He had a little instrumental. He had a little instrumental 18 00:01:46.280 --> 00:01:50.879 called Bee's Knees which also featured a similar type of 19 00:01:51.000 --> 00:01:54.280 guitar riff, which he just adjusted to create. 20 00:01:54.000 --> 00:01:58.480 The Bond And Interestingly, tonight, I would argue that the 21 00:01:58.519 --> 00:02:01.879 two themes we played James Bond and the Twilight Zone 22 00:02:02.159 --> 00:02:05.560 would probably be the two most recognizable themes on the planet. 23 00:02:06.879 --> 00:02:09.520 Well, when you say Twilight Zone, is it the do 24 00:02:09.520 --> 00:02:09.919 do do? 25 00:02:09.919 --> 00:02:09.960 Do? 26 00:02:10.120 --> 00:02:18.919 Do do do? Twilight Zone? Yes, let's take a call Marcus, 27 00:02:18.919 --> 00:02:21.479 who's kind enough to hold through the news. Thank you 28 00:02:21.520 --> 00:02:23.360 for your patience, Welcome to Night's Side. 29 00:02:24.280 --> 00:02:28.599 Yes, thank you, thank you. The Twilight Zone. Yes, I 30 00:02:29.159 --> 00:02:33.520 was a huge fan a long time, and there was 31 00:02:33.879 --> 00:02:37.479 so many different episodes, some that kept you sitting. 32 00:02:37.159 --> 00:02:39.800 In your chair thrilled and others. 33 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:42.639 That had you laughing. And there was an episode with 34 00:02:43.960 --> 00:02:48.360 an older gentleman who had a convenience store and he 35 00:02:48.439 --> 00:02:50.360 had a few other gentlemens with him, and he would 36 00:02:50.360 --> 00:02:53.759 always tell these tall tales that he invented this, invented that. 37 00:02:53.879 --> 00:02:56.080 I think that was one of the most funniest episodes 38 00:02:56.120 --> 00:02:58.840 I've ever seen on The Twilight Zone. And I think 39 00:02:58.840 --> 00:03:02.000 they called this. His name was Frisbee and he was 40 00:03:02.719 --> 00:03:06.960 abducted by aliens and the aliens wanted to take him 41 00:03:07.000 --> 00:03:10.360 away and he played a harmonica which got him off 42 00:03:10.360 --> 00:03:13.919 the ship because the harmonica was actually affecting him in 43 00:03:13.919 --> 00:03:18.120 a way where it would neutralize it. But that was 44 00:03:18.159 --> 00:03:21.719 the most funniest episode I ever saw in the Twilight Zone. 45 00:03:21.719 --> 00:03:28.520 And that actor, that actor was the wonderful and and 46 00:03:28.800 --> 00:03:32.039 the divine whose performance was divine. 47 00:03:32.919 --> 00:03:37.400 Yes, I've seen all the twilets on episodes, but once 48 00:03:37.439 --> 00:03:40.560 I saw that, I never laughed so hard. The the 49 00:03:40.599 --> 00:03:43.400 other ones had me uh biting my nails. I'm like, oh, 50 00:03:43.439 --> 00:03:44.919 my goodness, this is really scary. 51 00:03:46.599 --> 00:03:49.879 And I was very young, and Andyne was all over 52 00:03:49.919 --> 00:03:53.560 the TV landscape in the fifties and sixties. He was 53 00:03:53.759 --> 00:03:59.439 second build in a show called wild Bill Hiccock. He 54 00:03:59.800 --> 00:04:05.479 was in Stagecoach, the classic John Wayne movie, and he 55 00:04:05.560 --> 00:04:07.599 was all over the landscape. 56 00:04:07.919 --> 00:04:11.560 Yes, yes, yes, there was so many different actors and 57 00:04:11.560 --> 00:04:14.800 the actresses that were coming up in the Twilight Zone 58 00:04:14.879 --> 00:04:19.399 or in the Outer Limits thole series. But there was 59 00:04:19.480 --> 00:04:23.120 another episode on Twilight Zone. I forget her name, but 60 00:04:23.199 --> 00:04:26.439 there was another actor. He was very well known where 61 00:04:26.480 --> 00:04:28.399 he was going into space. He had met a woman 62 00:04:29.240 --> 00:04:31.560 and he was an astronaut, and I guess he was 63 00:04:32.040 --> 00:04:35.439 being put into space for a little time, but he 64 00:04:35.560 --> 00:04:39.160 was frozen in the capsule and he came back in 65 00:04:39.240 --> 00:04:42.079 the aged like thirty years. But she still stayed young. 66 00:04:42.120 --> 00:04:43.120 Everybody else stayed young. 67 00:04:43.720 --> 00:04:44.519 And he was. 68 00:04:44.959 --> 00:04:46.920 Going to marry her, but he didn't marry because he 69 00:04:47.000 --> 00:04:49.079 got so old he didn't think he was worthy. 70 00:04:49.120 --> 00:04:54.399 I got their name. That actor was Robert Lansing. The 71 00:04:54.480 --> 00:04:58.399 young lady was Marriette Hartley. The episode I believe was 72 00:04:58.439 --> 00:05:03.959 called The Long Marra The Long Morrow, and it was 73 00:05:04.120 --> 00:05:05.959 one of those ironic episodes. 74 00:05:06.439 --> 00:05:07.680 Most of them are ironic. 75 00:05:07.720 --> 00:05:10.680 In fact, Rod would say that one of his biggest 76 00:05:11.160 --> 00:05:16.319 influences was the short fiction of All Henry, which always 77 00:05:16.319 --> 00:05:18.839 had a twist at the end, which I thought was wonderful. 78 00:05:19.879 --> 00:05:23.959 Yes, yes, very very very well at the team. The 79 00:05:24.120 --> 00:05:26.560 uh the actress, she was very beautiful. She was in 80 00:05:26.639 --> 00:05:30.800 so many different shows. And I remember she. 81 00:05:31.160 --> 00:05:36.199 Was the girl in those cute Polaroid commercials with James Garner. 82 00:05:37.120 --> 00:05:39.959 Yes, that's true, that's true. 83 00:05:40.600 --> 00:05:45.480 Marion Hartley. Alright, I'm gonna let you go. Gross lines 84 00:05:45.480 --> 00:05:45.839 are fall. 85 00:05:47.000 --> 00:05:52.120 Yes, thank you again, thank you, thank you for calling. 86 00:05:53.160 --> 00:05:58.120 And I'm at the position where Rob I'm gonna take 87 00:05:58.120 --> 00:06:01.240 my break a little early. If I took a call now, 88 00:06:01.319 --> 00:06:04.399 i'd have to put them on homes for a minute. 89 00:06:04.439 --> 00:06:08.879 So let's take a break. Gary and Marlborough you will 90 00:06:08.959 --> 00:06:12.600 be next. And Michael in Boston. You'll be after Gary. 91 00:06:13.000 --> 00:06:15.759 Whoever takes that open line will be third to speak with. 92 00:06:16.120 --> 00:06:19.560 Stephen J. Rubin off of many, many books, and we're 93 00:06:19.560 --> 00:06:23.360 focusing on two of them, Twilight Zone and James Bond. 94 00:06:24.000 --> 00:06:30.519 Time here on night Side nine thirteen Temperature twenty five. 95 00:06:31.480 --> 00:06:34.439 Now back to Dan ray Line from the Window World, 96 00:06:34.600 --> 00:07:08.680 Night six Studios on w BZ News Radio. 97 00:06:58.879 --> 00:06:59.199 Gold. 98 00:07:04.160 --> 00:07:13.199 He's the man, the man with a mine touch, aspidest touch, 99 00:07:16.480 --> 00:07:19.639 such a cold PingER. 100 00:07:22.959 --> 00:07:27.079 T you to enter his win love sin. 101 00:07:28.639 --> 00:07:30.079 She's just gonna tell you don't go in. 102 00:07:30.560 --> 00:07:31.879 Don't go in. 103 00:07:32.680 --> 00:07:35.199 I knew it. I knew it all right, Rob, you 104 00:07:35.279 --> 00:07:41.079 can find it down. That's the movie, the movie that 105 00:07:41.199 --> 00:07:47.839 brought James Bond's popularity to its zenith. And Stephen J. 106 00:07:48.000 --> 00:07:52.319 Rubin is here. And and Stephen, before I take another 107 00:07:52.319 --> 00:07:57.480 phone call, capsulize the power of James Bond. 108 00:08:00.439 --> 00:08:04.759 James Bond is the hero of the Free World who 109 00:08:04.839 --> 00:08:09.279 has not changed his spots in sixty plus years. He's 110 00:08:09.319 --> 00:08:12.399 still a human being. Sometimes he has a few too 111 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:16.600 many gadgets, particularly in the Roger Moore years, but under 112 00:08:17.199 --> 00:08:21.800 Craig Stewardship in the last fifteen years, he was terrific 113 00:08:21.920 --> 00:08:24.120 although the movies were a little bit up and down, 114 00:08:24.759 --> 00:08:28.560 but Bond is Bond because the quality has always been 115 00:08:28.720 --> 00:08:31.879 pretty terrific. There's always good things to find in a 116 00:08:31.959 --> 00:08:33.080 James Bond film. 117 00:08:34.480 --> 00:08:37.639 Now I've got a tippy toe around this, and Gary 118 00:08:37.759 --> 00:08:41.679 Marlborough be patron. I'll get to you in about a minute. 119 00:08:42.159 --> 00:08:47.879 You and I both know the last film. We have 120 00:08:48.000 --> 00:08:52.679 to tipy toe about what we say. How are they 121 00:08:52.720 --> 00:08:58.120 going to bring up another James Bond with the consideration 122 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:00.559 of that movie? 123 00:09:01.399 --> 00:09:03.639 You know, that's a really good question. I think that 124 00:09:05.159 --> 00:09:10.000 they've been rebooting Bond since nineteen sixty nine, you know, 125 00:09:10.039 --> 00:09:14.519 little George Lazenbee replaced some Sean Connery and then of 126 00:09:14.639 --> 00:09:18.600 the various Bonds. There'll be no problems. They'll just reboot it. 127 00:09:18.600 --> 00:09:21.320 It'll be you know, if you remember the first Daniel 128 00:09:21.399 --> 00:09:25.600 Craig film, Casino Royale, it was like he just got 129 00:09:25.600 --> 00:09:30.480 his double O seven number. So they played fast and loose. 130 00:09:31.159 --> 00:09:34.840 Every franchise series that has run as long as Bond 131 00:09:34.840 --> 00:09:40.519 and from very few have has to go through changes. Batman, Superman. 132 00:09:41.080 --> 00:09:43.519 I mean they're introducing a new Superman this year, this 133 00:09:43.600 --> 00:09:47.759 coming year. They all have to go through this and 134 00:09:48.440 --> 00:09:50.320 that's just part of it. But I'm sure they'll they'll 135 00:09:50.360 --> 00:09:53.759 come up smelling like a rose because Bond, like death 136 00:09:53.960 --> 00:09:57.000 and taxes, will always be with us. 137 00:09:57.279 --> 00:10:01.200 Okay, when you mentioned he's super h I like what 138 00:10:01.240 --> 00:10:04.120 they did with the Spider Man movie that had all 139 00:10:04.200 --> 00:10:08.600 three actors in one movie and it made sense within 140 00:10:08.679 --> 00:10:09.159 the plot. 141 00:10:11.159 --> 00:10:13.200 It was a very nice touch. I agree. 142 00:10:13.679 --> 00:10:17.759 Yeah, let's go to mam Borrow and speak to Gary. Gary, 143 00:10:17.879 --> 00:10:20.399 thank you for your patience. Welcome to Night's Side. 144 00:10:21.600 --> 00:10:23.399 Hey, how you doing all right? 145 00:10:23.399 --> 00:10:23.720 Steven? 146 00:10:23.759 --> 00:10:26.159 I have a question for you. I want to talk 147 00:10:26.159 --> 00:10:29.000 about the Twilight Zone for a second. Was correct me 148 00:10:29.039 --> 00:10:32.000 if I'm wrong? But wasn't there an episode with Sonny Bono? 149 00:10:33.240 --> 00:10:35.720 He portrayed a like a beatnik. He's in a jazz 150 00:10:35.840 --> 00:10:38.519 music that Do you remember that one at all? 151 00:10:40.279 --> 00:10:47.000 It's an episode where he he does something bad and 152 00:10:47.000 --> 00:10:51.360 then he goes to his particular form of hell and 153 00:10:51.399 --> 00:10:55.360 I'm trying to remember the name of it, but it's uh, 154 00:10:56.120 --> 00:10:58.840 you know, actually, you know what you know? I don't 155 00:10:58.879 --> 00:11:01.159 think it was a Twilight its own episode. I think 156 00:11:01.159 --> 00:11:03.279 it was an episode of the Night Gallery. 157 00:11:05.519 --> 00:11:07.840 Really, you know, because all these years, you know, I'm 158 00:11:08.159 --> 00:11:10.240 in my seventies and all these years I've been thinking 159 00:11:10.519 --> 00:11:13.080 it was Sonny Bono on The Twilight Zone. That's why 160 00:11:13.080 --> 00:11:15.320 I'm calling, because I need verification. 161 00:11:16.360 --> 00:11:22.759 Well, a lot of people misunderstood The Night Gallery because yes, 162 00:11:22.960 --> 00:11:27.799 rud Serling hosted it, but had little to do with 163 00:11:28.360 --> 00:11:33.240 the plots and the writing and the concept of that series. 164 00:11:34.559 --> 00:11:37.159 No, it was It was a Jack Laird series, and 165 00:11:37.240 --> 00:11:40.440 he had rod. It was simply a hired gun. He 166 00:11:40.519 --> 00:11:43.799 wrote a few episodes which are terrific, and he hosted 167 00:11:44.159 --> 00:11:48.240 and those evocative openings were terrific. But the quality of 168 00:11:48.279 --> 00:11:51.360 the of the Night Gallery was really up and down. 169 00:11:51.399 --> 00:11:53.960 There were there were a lot of shows that were clunkers. 170 00:11:55.240 --> 00:11:59.399 And the Sonny Bono episode you're thinking of could have 171 00:11:59.440 --> 00:12:01.559 been from the and from Uncle. We're both he and 172 00:12:01.720 --> 00:12:05.919 share We're in that episode. 173 00:12:07.200 --> 00:12:10.600 I'm pretty sure, pretty sure? 174 00:12:10.679 --> 00:12:13.759 Yeah, Okay, Needles and Pins was the man from Uncle 175 00:12:13.799 --> 00:12:22.120 episode the Needles and Pins affair. All right, Gary, I 176 00:12:22.120 --> 00:12:26.320 guess that's it. Thank you, Gary, Good night, Happy holidays, 177 00:12:26.360 --> 00:12:31.360 Happy holidays. Let's go to Boston and speak to Michael. Michael. 178 00:12:31.799 --> 00:12:34.960 Welcome Tonight's sorry, thank you, good evening. 179 00:12:36.120 --> 00:12:37.720 No one ever talks about money. 180 00:12:38.240 --> 00:12:38.679 I don't know. 181 00:12:38.840 --> 00:12:43.879 You do a lot of interviews Morgan, celebrities and so forth, 182 00:12:43.919 --> 00:12:47.679 and no one ever mentioned the money. Uh, it's not 183 00:12:47.879 --> 00:12:50.600 the right thing to do. I would never say to Morgan, 184 00:12:52.120 --> 00:12:54.799 what's his paycheck? I mean, he's ut of my damn business. 185 00:12:54.799 --> 00:12:57.320 Of course, monopoly money. 186 00:12:58.399 --> 00:13:02.320 We're going to believe that we're going back sixty years 187 00:13:02.799 --> 00:13:06.399 and these celebrities are no longer with us, unfortunately. But 188 00:13:06.559 --> 00:13:09.879 I'd like to ask the gentleman that has written the 189 00:13:10.320 --> 00:13:14.440 literature of what did it cost to produce an episode 190 00:13:14.480 --> 00:13:17.519 of the Twilight Zone back in the sixties. What was 191 00:13:17.679 --> 00:13:20.720 Rod Serling's take? What did he get for writing a 192 00:13:20.759 --> 00:13:24.639 script and the hosting jors? And what did a star 193 00:13:25.480 --> 00:13:29.039 you've mentioned dozens of them tonight get. I imagine it 194 00:13:29.120 --> 00:13:32.559 was a set amount for doing a Twilight Zone anybody. 195 00:13:33.600 --> 00:13:37.000 His name is Stephen J. Rubin, remember that name, And 196 00:13:37.080 --> 00:13:41.200 after your call, we're gonna let everyone know what company 197 00:13:41.360 --> 00:13:44.240 puts his books out. But Steven, do you have answers 198 00:13:44.279 --> 00:13:45.720 to any of those questions? 199 00:13:45.960 --> 00:13:48.360 Well, let's start with the actress first, because I was 200 00:13:48.480 --> 00:13:54.279 very fortunate to collaborate with Rod Sterling's widow, Carol, the 201 00:13:54.360 --> 00:13:57.639 late Carol Serling, now and she opened the files to me. 202 00:13:57.759 --> 00:14:02.600 I saw all the contracts for what the actors made 203 00:14:03.159 --> 00:14:06.279 top of show. For the lead actor in a twilight 204 00:14:06.399 --> 00:14:09.200 Zone in those days from fifty nine to sixty four 205 00:14:10.000 --> 00:14:14.000 was five thousand dollars. That's all they made for a 206 00:14:14.080 --> 00:14:16.879 leading role. So Jack Klugman in a game of Pool, 207 00:14:17.440 --> 00:14:21.679 he's making five thousand, you know, Cliff Robertson in the 208 00:14:21.840 --> 00:14:26.519 in the Dummy, he's making five thousand. Writing wise, you know, 209 00:14:26.639 --> 00:14:28.559 back at those days, I don't have the figures for 210 00:14:28.639 --> 00:14:31.679 writing right in front of me, but a few thousand 211 00:14:31.759 --> 00:14:35.240 dollars was what they got for those scripts. And Rod 212 00:14:35.279 --> 00:14:39.279 also took some extra money for doing the ads. And 213 00:14:39.320 --> 00:14:42.759 that was a lot of the reason that Rod did, 214 00:14:42.840 --> 00:14:45.159 as he wanted to make some extra money because he 215 00:14:45.240 --> 00:14:49.159 wasn't getting rich off of his screenwriting fees. Although he 216 00:14:49.240 --> 00:14:52.600 did own the show. He's owned the show with CBS, 217 00:14:53.200 --> 00:14:55.639 so he was able to make a chunk of money 218 00:14:55.720 --> 00:14:58.639 later on, but nothing like the money we would think 219 00:14:58.679 --> 00:15:01.320 of today now. 220 00:15:01.559 --> 00:15:04.440 Was that ownership Cayuga Productions. 221 00:15:03.960 --> 00:15:09.720 Was that his Yeah, his company was Cayuga you know 222 00:15:09.759 --> 00:15:14.639 the the he split the proceeds with CPS. And then 223 00:15:16.200 --> 00:15:18.919 I guess because he wanted to take the money and run. 224 00:15:19.519 --> 00:15:21.720 When he had an opportunity to sell his share of 225 00:15:21.720 --> 00:15:25.600 the series later on, he sold it for some very 226 00:15:26.120 --> 00:15:29.440 modest figure, something like two hundred and fifty thousand or 227 00:15:29.440 --> 00:15:32.720 something like that. Show that today would be worth millions. 228 00:15:34.960 --> 00:15:38.080 Oh, mister Irvin. Were there residuals then. 229 00:15:40.519 --> 00:15:44.799 That's another very good question. There were no residuals then, 230 00:15:44.799 --> 00:15:50.120 although during the strikes of nineteen sixty I believe they 231 00:15:50.200 --> 00:15:53.240 started to talk about residuals. I think maybe for the 232 00:15:53.320 --> 00:15:57.200 last couple of seasons there may have been some residuals, 233 00:15:57.679 --> 00:15:59.759 but that was back in the fifties. There were no 234 00:16:00.080 --> 00:16:01.840 visuals as far as I know, I might be wrong. 235 00:16:03.960 --> 00:16:06.720 And do you know what an entire episode would cost 236 00:16:07.759 --> 00:16:08.799 in those days? 237 00:16:09.279 --> 00:16:13.519 In those days twice episode twiletsone episode was made for 238 00:16:13.639 --> 00:16:16.960 about a quarter million dollars, a little bit up up 239 00:16:17.559 --> 00:16:20.159 for the locations, a little bit below that for some 240 00:16:20.240 --> 00:16:22.080 of the ones that are shot on the lot, but 241 00:16:22.159 --> 00:16:27.320 they were very inex expensive compared to other shows. The 242 00:16:27.360 --> 00:16:31.000 thing though about The Twilight Zone also, which was an anthology, 243 00:16:32.320 --> 00:16:35.440 is they had to get new actors each week, so 244 00:16:36.120 --> 00:16:39.240 whereas the actors in a regular show would probably be 245 00:16:39.279 --> 00:16:43.200 asking for raises every season or so that didn't have 246 00:16:43.279 --> 00:16:44.879 a that There was no problem like that on the 247 00:16:44.879 --> 00:16:47.159 Twilight Zone because we had a new past each week. 248 00:16:48.360 --> 00:16:52.440 Sure, all right, Michael, you're all say thank you, thank you, 249 00:16:54.120 --> 00:16:58.600 thank you havingday. And before I take my button with 250 00:16:58.600 --> 00:17:02.360 the hour break, I'm going to go off script with you. 251 00:17:03.759 --> 00:17:07.640 Rod Serling also had a Western that starred Lloyd Bridges, 252 00:17:07.880 --> 00:17:11.160 The Loaner. Tell me about The Loaner if. 253 00:17:11.079 --> 00:17:16.039 You can, well, all I can tell you is that Rod, 254 00:17:16.160 --> 00:17:20.960 being the innovative type writer, wanted to do a Western 255 00:17:21.079 --> 00:17:25.559 series that was not about violence. The Loaner was a 256 00:17:25.599 --> 00:17:29.839 guy who did not solve all of his problems with guns, 257 00:17:30.400 --> 00:17:33.559 and hence the show completely bombed. I think when people 258 00:17:33.599 --> 00:17:36.400 tune in westerns they want the gun play. 259 00:17:36.920 --> 00:17:39.440 In those days, because I think that was what the 260 00:17:40.039 --> 00:17:45.319 sixty three sixty four TV season. And with Lloyd Bridges 261 00:17:45.480 --> 00:17:50.519 the lead, you had a major actor. And Lloyd Bridges 262 00:17:50.559 --> 00:17:53.799 had just come off the success of Sea Hunt right, 263 00:17:54.000 --> 00:17:58.240 a long running series, and he's playing a character. I 264 00:17:58.279 --> 00:18:03.079 think the character's name was Colton Will Colton, and he's 265 00:18:03.119 --> 00:18:07.880 a loneery he wanders like most westerns in those days. 266 00:18:08.640 --> 00:18:12.839 Your hero was nomadic, wandered from town to town to 267 00:18:12.839 --> 00:18:17.279 town to town. But I don't think I can remember 268 00:18:17.319 --> 00:18:19.559 more than one or two episodes where he even drew 269 00:18:19.839 --> 00:18:23.559 his gun, right, which is what what most people watched 270 00:18:23.599 --> 00:18:26.400 for back from the fifties and sixties. 271 00:18:27.839 --> 00:18:29.759 Morgan, It's like when I worked on a three D 272 00:18:30.160 --> 00:18:33.519 three D movie in the eighties called Space Hunter Adventures 273 00:18:33.519 --> 00:18:36.799 in the Forbidden Zone with Peter Strauss and Molly Ringwolds. 274 00:18:37.160 --> 00:18:40.880 The filmmakers wanted to do subtle three D. They didn't 275 00:18:40.880 --> 00:18:43.440 want to poke your eyes out every two minutes. And 276 00:18:43.519 --> 00:18:46.200 that was a problem because if people put on those 277 00:18:46.200 --> 00:18:49.359 stupid glasses, they want to have something coming at them 278 00:18:49.359 --> 00:18:50.119 every two minutes. 279 00:18:50.599 --> 00:18:55.200 They wanted like they had seen it in you know, 280 00:18:55.240 --> 00:19:00.920 a three Stooges short film, fifties movies, six, these movies, 281 00:19:00.960 --> 00:19:03.960 and they wanted to be smacked in the face with 282 00:19:04.039 --> 00:19:11.200 the pie basically, and you didn't do that. How was 283 00:19:11.240 --> 00:19:14.279 it working with Molly Ringwald? Have fun? 284 00:19:15.119 --> 00:19:17.680 Two years later, I was assigned to do the publicity 285 00:19:17.759 --> 00:19:22.480 on Pretty and Pink. Oh Okay, b Ye had grown 286 00:19:22.559 --> 00:19:24.839 up considerably. She was actually a very nice kid. I 287 00:19:24.920 --> 00:19:26.359 liked her all right. 288 00:19:26.519 --> 00:19:28.480 Well, let me take my bottom of the hour, break 289 00:19:29.480 --> 00:19:32.960 open lines. You can talk about Bond, any aspect of 290 00:19:33.000 --> 00:19:36.079 a Bond movie or Twilight Zone, as we've done for 291 00:19:36.119 --> 00:19:39.960 her ninety minutes. Here a night side six one, seven, two, five, 292 00:19:40.200 --> 00:19:44.319 four teen, thirty eight, eight, eight, nine, two, nine, ten, thirty, time, 293 00:19:44.480 --> 00:19:47.960 nine thirty twenty five degrees. 294 00:19:50.759 --> 00:19:59.279 With Dan Ray on w B Boston's news radio. 295 00:20:03.519 --> 00:20:13.359 Nobody does said makes me feel sad for. 296 00:20:18.200 --> 00:20:20.279 Nobody does it? 297 00:20:21.720 --> 00:20:36.640 Hey, that's gonnass you babebyon the I wasn't looking. What's 298 00:20:36.640 --> 00:20:37.880 somehow you found? 299 00:20:37.920 --> 00:20:38.240 All right? 300 00:20:38.400 --> 00:20:41.279 Rob, you can fade it down. Carly Simon doing the 301 00:20:41.359 --> 00:20:46.279 Spy Who Loved Me? Theme song? Steven, do you ever 302 00:20:46.680 --> 00:20:50.160 just play a Bond song or put in a Bond 303 00:20:50.240 --> 00:20:51.440 movie just for the heck of it? 304 00:20:52.759 --> 00:20:57.039 All the time. We've been celebrating Goldfinger all week. It's 305 00:20:57.079 --> 00:21:01.200 on my podcast starting Monday. I interviewed Graham Raye, who's 306 00:21:01.240 --> 00:21:06.480 the editor of Double seven magazine, a very respected periodical. 307 00:21:07.519 --> 00:21:12.720 But Goldfinger turned sixty years old this holiday, so we're 308 00:21:12.759 --> 00:21:16.920 celebrating a series that this is one of its milestones, 309 00:21:17.079 --> 00:21:19.759 sixty years since, as you point out the height of 310 00:21:19.839 --> 00:21:20.720 Bond fever. 311 00:21:22.400 --> 00:21:26.559 Let me ask this and then I'll I'll take Ted 312 00:21:27.359 --> 00:21:32.200 and Millis to be pature for another minute. Sean Conry 313 00:21:32.279 --> 00:21:36.000 is number one across the board, no doubt every Bond 314 00:21:36.039 --> 00:21:39.960 fan would put him as number one, rate two, three, 315 00:21:40.039 --> 00:21:43.680 four and five for me of the men that have 316 00:21:43.880 --> 00:21:46.400 played James Bond. 317 00:21:48.279 --> 00:21:50.480 Well, first of all, the only thing I would disagree 318 00:21:50.480 --> 00:21:53.799 with you is not every Bond fan considers Don the best. 319 00:21:53.839 --> 00:21:56.960 Because if you're younger and you did not grow up 320 00:21:57.000 --> 00:22:02.160 with Sean, you have your personal favorites axiomatic that if 321 00:22:02.200 --> 00:22:04.920 you grew up with a Bond, he you're Bond. So 322 00:22:05.319 --> 00:22:08.519 you'd be surprised how many people tell me that Roger 323 00:22:08.599 --> 00:22:16.039 Moore is their favorite Bond, or Pierce Brock their favorite Bond. Yeah, 324 00:22:16.079 --> 00:22:18.440 but in terms of the Bond, you gotta start with, 325 00:22:18.559 --> 00:22:21.079 at least from my perment point of view, you start 326 00:22:21.119 --> 00:22:24.319 with Connery. Then you go to Daniel Craig, who I 327 00:22:24.319 --> 00:22:27.920 thought was really terrific. Yes, I still to this day, 328 00:22:28.000 --> 00:22:31.920 even though he did one James Bond movie. George Lazenbee's 329 00:22:32.640 --> 00:22:36.799 On Your Matthew Secret Service is a terrific James Bond movie. 330 00:22:37.039 --> 00:22:44.000 So he's my three Brosnan is four, Roger is fifth, 331 00:22:44.079 --> 00:22:45.720 and Dalton is sick. 332 00:22:47.359 --> 00:22:50.279 I happen to be looking at I've got all kinds 333 00:22:50.319 --> 00:22:54.359 of things up on the room from where he broadcast 334 00:22:55.000 --> 00:22:57.359 and broadcast in my home. If you didn't know that. 335 00:22:58.160 --> 00:23:01.359 And there's Roger Moore. Maybe you've seen this photo because 336 00:23:01.400 --> 00:23:04.599 it was a standard photo leaning over one of the 337 00:23:04.759 --> 00:23:07.400 chairs that they put for the actors to sit at 338 00:23:07.880 --> 00:23:11.440 while other scenes are being filmed. And there he is 339 00:23:11.519 --> 00:23:16.559 right there over the light switch. And I would have 340 00:23:16.640 --> 00:23:23.440 had him second to Sean during the years of Roger Moore, 341 00:23:24.000 --> 00:23:28.240 but as the other Bond films were released, I moved 342 00:23:28.319 --> 00:23:32.400 him further down on the list for each one I too. 343 00:23:35.480 --> 00:23:41.279 I liked Daniel Craig a lot, but I put him third, 344 00:23:41.480 --> 00:23:47.160 after Pierce Brosnan, who I liked a lot, and then 345 00:23:47.279 --> 00:23:53.640 Timothy Dalton, then Roger Moore, and then Lazenbie. Those are 346 00:23:53.680 --> 00:23:58.720 mine in my order. So let's go back to the 347 00:23:58.720 --> 00:24:02.400 phone calls, full lines people, by the way, you know 348 00:24:02.480 --> 00:24:05.039 the numbers dum as you hear me saying goodbye to 349 00:24:05.079 --> 00:24:08.440 a call. But right now with toload to Ted, Ted 350 00:24:08.519 --> 00:24:13.440 and millis good evening, Ted, welcome to night side, Oh. 351 00:24:13.279 --> 00:24:14.279 Good evening, thank you. 352 00:24:15.039 --> 00:24:18.039 I just had a question, which is I wanted to 353 00:24:18.079 --> 00:24:22.359 hear what you thought about the movie The Rock, which 354 00:24:22.400 --> 00:24:24.759 is sort of, I don't know if you're aware, sort 355 00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:29.119 of an unofficial The rumor has always been that it 356 00:24:29.279 --> 00:24:34.799 was James Bond's last hurrah as a retired James Bond, 357 00:24:34.920 --> 00:24:36.440 kind of coming out of retirements. 358 00:24:36.759 --> 00:24:39.200 For I. 359 00:24:42.200 --> 00:24:45.079 See why you lean that way, but I think the 360 00:24:45.119 --> 00:24:51.200 better image of Sean Connery doing barndish things would be 361 00:24:51.200 --> 00:24:55.559 the League of Extraordinary Gentlemen. Stephen, how do you feel? 362 00:24:55.920 --> 00:24:58.880 I agree? Yeah, good, I. 363 00:24:58.799 --> 00:25:03.920 Agree with you. You know, God, I miss Sean. I 364 00:25:04.000 --> 00:25:12.400 miss missed the the just the machismo, the ty, testosterone, 365 00:25:12.759 --> 00:25:15.160 A man's man. It's funny. I was watching a movie 366 00:25:15.200 --> 00:25:18.359 on the Criterion Channel the other day I'm not quite 367 00:25:18.519 --> 00:25:23.400 just to called hell Drivers. It's about these truck drivers 368 00:25:23.119 --> 00:25:28.519 in London, are outside London who delivered They delivered cement 369 00:25:28.680 --> 00:25:33.000 or rocks every day at insane speeds. And Sean is 370 00:25:33.240 --> 00:25:36.799 practically a background type player, but still very good. This 371 00:25:36.839 --> 00:25:39.480 is nineteen fifty seven, so this is five years before 372 00:25:39.519 --> 00:25:42.240 he got the Doctor. No roll, but Sean was always 373 00:25:43.000 --> 00:25:45.960 you know, The Rock is it could be it could 374 00:25:45.960 --> 00:25:49.480 be kind of a James Bond coming out of retirement moment. 375 00:25:49.759 --> 00:25:51.759 It's interesting too. 376 00:25:51.680 --> 00:25:56.279 Much, Nicholas, Well, just too much. 377 00:25:58.920 --> 00:26:00.880 There is a reference to the beginning of the Rock 378 00:26:00.920 --> 00:26:05.839 that says the character that that Sean played was former sas. 379 00:26:06.400 --> 00:26:08.920 So that's why I think that's how the rumor kind 380 00:26:08.920 --> 00:26:09.480 of going. 381 00:26:10.319 --> 00:26:17.720 Yes, they alluded to what could have been Bond's early years. 382 00:26:17.799 --> 00:26:21.400 They alluded to that, and I see where some people 383 00:26:21.480 --> 00:26:25.519 might have had high hopes for that. But the League 384 00:26:25.519 --> 00:26:30.559 of Extraordinary Gentlemen that is as bond as you can get, 385 00:26:30.559 --> 00:26:33.799 with John Connery and not being called double oh seven. 386 00:26:35.279 --> 00:26:37.160 Yeah, I love them in the Untouchables as well. 387 00:26:38.119 --> 00:26:45.640 Oh yes, that's the Chicago way. 388 00:26:47.680 --> 00:26:51.359 Thank you. 389 00:26:51.440 --> 00:26:55.319 Whoever takes this line most likely will be the last 390 00:26:55.359 --> 00:26:57.400 call that we will take, because we still have another 391 00:26:57.400 --> 00:27:01.160 break coming a couple of commercials into the calls. So 392 00:27:01.319 --> 00:27:03.960 you take that line, We'll do the best we can 393 00:27:04.039 --> 00:27:06.799 to get you on. Let's go to Lowell and speak 394 00:27:06.839 --> 00:27:10.640 to Dennis. Dennis, welcome to Night's side. 395 00:27:10.920 --> 00:27:14.559 Oh, thank you very much. Good evening, gentlemen. I've been 396 00:27:14.599 --> 00:27:18.160 a Bond, saying well, I always think of Bond, James 397 00:27:18.200 --> 00:27:21.680 Bond from Doctor No. I've been a sand since then. 398 00:27:21.680 --> 00:27:25.279 I was a teenager and I saw Goldfinger. I was 399 00:27:25.359 --> 00:27:31.240 completely captured by James Bond. I went to see a 400 00:27:31.279 --> 00:27:32.680 Goldfinger with my mother. 401 00:27:35.920 --> 00:27:40.240