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<v Speaker 1>Because it's kind of just business as usual. The trend

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<v Speaker 1>is basically just to and continued accumulation long term. I

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<v Speaker 1>will note that they've dumped roughly thirty thousand bitcoin in

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<v Speaker 1>the last two ish weeks from June third until the

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<v Speaker 1>latest closed yesterday.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, everybody, welcome into the Thinking Crypto podcast. Joining me

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<v Speaker 2>is Brian from Sentiment, and as you know, we're going

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<v Speaker 2>to do a deep dive into the metrics, the sentiment

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<v Speaker 2>and much more around bitcoin and all the all coins.

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<v Speaker 3>Brian, great to see.

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<v Speaker 1>You, Good to see you, Tony. Up and down week.

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<v Speaker 1>Sentiments kind of starting to drift into parish slash a

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<v Speaker 1>little impatience, which is exactly what a lot of bulls

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<v Speaker 1>want to see, right. We want to see that the

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<v Speaker 1>retail crowd is starting to shift into impatient kind of

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<v Speaker 1>mode and that tends to be when good things start

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<v Speaker 1>to happen.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, it's so funny, right, It's the contrarian signal that

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<v Speaker 2>the majority of people may say, oh man, this market's

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<v Speaker 2>not doing anything. I'm tired, i'm giving up, i'm walking away,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm selling it's over. But then the bulls and the

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<v Speaker 2>folks who are you know, doing the opposite of what's

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<v Speaker 2>happening out there. They are looking at this like, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>the opportune moment to see all of this happening.

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<v Speaker 1>I was talking with the data team a little this morning,

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<v Speaker 1>and we're seeing an increase in specific calls related to

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<v Speaker 1>target prices to buy back in. So the trend right

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<v Speaker 1>now is a lot of people sitting on the sidelines,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe getting more into stocks or something else that even gold,

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<v Speaker 1>something moving a little more than crypto has lately, and

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<v Speaker 1>waiting for you know, one hundred k, waiting for ninety k,

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<v Speaker 1>even lower than that. You know, we're seeing all sorts

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<v Speaker 1>of target prices to buy back in. Even though I

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<v Speaker 1>did the calculation this morning, we're just six point two

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<v Speaker 1>percent off of the all time high, and people are

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<v Speaker 1>acting all of a sudden like you know, what have

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<v Speaker 1>you done for me lately? Getting into that mindset like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>the all time high was already a full month ago now,

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<v Speaker 1>So we are dealing with a bit of a spoiled

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<v Speaker 1>kind of bunch lately, and for good reason. It's been

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<v Speaker 1>such a good couple of years for crypto. So this

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<v Speaker 1>is generally a good scenario where you're seeing people saying, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I still am bullish long term, but bear is short

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<v Speaker 1>term because I just think the bitcoin is going to

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<v Speaker 1>go to this based on the seventeen lines I drew

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<v Speaker 1>on trading do.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, And it's funny. I also get comments of you know,

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<v Speaker 2>people who are not allocated to bitcoin. They're like, where's

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<v Speaker 2>the bullmarket. I'm like, the bullmarket is starting January twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty three. And because you were misallocated, you didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>some bitcoin your portfolio. You missed a lot of the gains.

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<v Speaker 2>And I keep trying to tell people that, don't be

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<v Speaker 2>max less Randy token and you know, diversify wholesome bitcoin,

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<v Speaker 2>and yes, you can have your all coins, but Bitcoin

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<v Speaker 2>is you know, has the higher probability of seeing those games,

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<v Speaker 2>while certain all coins may not.

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<v Speaker 1>Exactly. Yeah, some people fall in love with whatever coin

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<v Speaker 1>made them the most money the last bull cycle, right,

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<v Speaker 1>and they're just they feel like there's an allegiance to them.

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<v Speaker 1>And to an extent, that's okay. You might believe in

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<v Speaker 1>the long term viability of a certain asset, but if

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<v Speaker 1>you don't diversify, you can miss out on quite a

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<v Speaker 1>few individual runs just based on the cyclical nature of crypto.

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<v Speaker 2>Absolutely all right, Brian. He shows the charts that you're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at. We could start with bitcoin. Maybe we look

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<v Speaker 2>at sentiment.

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<v Speaker 1>You bet, let's start there. I pulled up this handy

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<v Speaker 1>dandy sentiment chart that just looks at the daily ratio

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<v Speaker 1>of all the bullish versus negative comments over the past

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<v Speaker 1>three months here, and generally higher we go, the more

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<v Speaker 1>likely we're getting close to a top. If we get

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<v Speaker 1>super low, we're getting close to bottom. So naturally this

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<v Speaker 1>was a great signal to buy right after Trump announced

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<v Speaker 1>the tariffs, and people were running around like chickens with

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<v Speaker 1>their heads cut off, assuming that we were gonna just

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely fall off a cliff. Of course, after a medium

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<v Speaker 1>sized retrace ended up being the perfect time to buy.

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<v Speaker 1>And I know a ton of people are kicking themselves

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<v Speaker 1>after you know, this bearish bar right here happened. And

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<v Speaker 1>then we went on a about a forty six percent

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<v Speaker 1>run en route to that new all time high in May.

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<v Speaker 1>So since that time, we saw, of course that huge

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<v Speaker 1>bullish spike here. What a coincidence. This is where price

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<v Speaker 1>is top out and we start to go down, and

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<v Speaker 1>then we actually got pretty bearish just about four days ago.

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<v Speaker 1>We're shooting this on the nineteenth. This was on the fifteenth,

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<v Speaker 1>and we ended up going on a little mini rally

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<v Speaker 1>back above one OA. Then people got a little bit

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<v Speaker 1>bullish again and we fell back down. Now we're kind

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<v Speaker 1>of sitting a little in the middle, arguably just slightly bearish.

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<v Speaker 1>We have some other signals here that show more clearly

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<v Speaker 1>how barish people are getting. But just in terms of

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<v Speaker 1>all the overall bullish versus bearish comments that our algorithm

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<v Speaker 1>is picking up, it doesn't look like people are showing

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<v Speaker 1>a lot of patients right now. It's a growing amount

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<v Speaker 1>of frustration if we just look at the overall trend,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, since mid May or so on these gold lines.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and you know when I look at the bitcoin

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<v Speaker 2>chart on Trading View and I look at like the

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<v Speaker 2>rs I, I think sometimes people don't realize the market

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<v Speaker 2>becomes overheated and they wanted to keep going right, it

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<v Speaker 2>must keep going up, must keep go like like it

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<v Speaker 2>has to go up in a straight line. But mars

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<v Speaker 2>markets are cyclical, and you know this cool down. If

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<v Speaker 2>you look at the rs I and the bitcoin chart,

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<v Speaker 2>it's it looks healthy because it was overbought and then

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<v Speaker 2>now it's going to the oversouled exactly.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, we've got RSI. Actually I rarely use it because

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<v Speaker 1>it's already so available elsewhere, but I can tell you

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<v Speaker 1>that on the RSI, you know, we did fall back

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<v Speaker 1>below fifty. Let me just get rid of this extra

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<v Speaker 1>line here. So just looking at the RSI first, here's

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<v Speaker 1>the midway point. I know people who really value RSI

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<v Speaker 1>and use it a lot more than I do. But

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<v Speaker 1>from what I've seen in my analysis, this was the

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<v Speaker 1>point in which we fell back below that midway point

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<v Speaker 1>and went into slightly bullish range here, not by much.

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<v Speaker 1>Forty seven is pretty even, but you can see how

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<v Speaker 1>rare it's been over the last two and a half

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<v Speaker 1>months or so for us to actually be below the

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<v Speaker 1>fifty mine for RSI.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I expect, you know, I often tell people, look,

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<v Speaker 2>if we're overbought, you got to anticipate the market's going

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<v Speaker 2>to go to the opposite way when we become oversold

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<v Speaker 2>and sellers, you know, become exhausted, and you know the

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<v Speaker 2>market's going to go the other way. And of course

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<v Speaker 2>the sentiment of follows that which we were talking about.

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<v Speaker 2>The retail heard right, they get very excited when you

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<v Speaker 2>know we're heated up. Everybody's buying, and so forth.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's always that lagging emotional reaction after the fact, right,

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<v Speaker 1>People are way more bullish after a bitcoin goes up

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<v Speaker 1>to one twelve as opposed to being bullish back when

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<v Speaker 1>it's in the low hundred k's or in the ninety ks.

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<v Speaker 1>So it's just the nature of the beast. It's always

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<v Speaker 1>a what have you done for me lately kind of mindset,

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<v Speaker 1>And this is why the majority of retailers lose money

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<v Speaker 1>because they refuse to buy in when everyone else on

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<v Speaker 1>their timeline is spewing the bearish narrative, and they refuse

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<v Speaker 1>to sell when everyone is spewing the bullish narrative. But yeah, absolutely, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>And I wanted to on a related note to RSI,

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<v Speaker 1>this is kind of like the cousin of RSI is MVRV.

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<v Speaker 1>And here we see that the average returns when you

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<v Speaker 1>take all the addresses that have interacted on the bitcoin

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<v Speaker 1>network in the past thirty days, the average returns are

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<v Speaker 1>at about negative two percent. So that actually is a

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<v Speaker 1>slightly encouraging sign that we could see a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a rebound. What we didn't want to do is buy in.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, there were times across mid April to mid

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<v Speaker 1>May where it actually would have worked out as you

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<v Speaker 1>bought in while others were already in profit. But generally

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<v Speaker 1>you want to I love using these emojis when I can.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't buy when you're seeing the MVRV way up here,

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<v Speaker 1>especially like above, I'd say ten percent or so, So

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<v Speaker 1>avoid that zone when you get way up here, and

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<v Speaker 1>then you want to send the rocket ships when we're

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<v Speaker 1>way down below, you know, roughly negative five, negative ten,

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<v Speaker 1>ten percent like we saw. Really the only opportunity we

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<v Speaker 1>saw was back when the tariffs were first announced. But

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<v Speaker 1>it's at least in negative territory now, which is good.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I find this data is so valuable

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<v Speaker 2>because it's what the smart money uses.

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<v Speaker 3>They don't they're not welcome by their emotions.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh the price is up, I feel happy today, or

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<v Speaker 2>the price is down, I feel sad. But what is

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<v Speaker 2>the data telling us? And you know this is so

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<v Speaker 2>much in alignment with how the market moves and of

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<v Speaker 2>course a contrarian to the retail sentiment.

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<v Speaker 3>It's it's so fascinating.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And one final thing to say on that, you

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<v Speaker 1>know ninety eight percent or so of your viewers are

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<v Speaker 1>well aware of the concept of buying low and selling high.

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<v Speaker 1>But if we go back, you know, ten years, right,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just look at twenty fifteen to twenty twenty five

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<v Speaker 1>and we'll just look at price by itself. So if

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<v Speaker 1>you look at this chart, you tell me what the

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<v Speaker 1>low and the high is, right, It's impossible when you

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<v Speaker 1>look at different timeframes. And what MVRV does is it

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<v Speaker 1>allows you to understand what the high versus low is

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<v Speaker 1>relative to the average traders that you're competing with. It

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<v Speaker 1>may look like you're all on the same team because

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<v Speaker 1>the timeline is going like we're all going to the moon,

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<v Speaker 1>but the reality is crypto is zero sum game, and

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<v Speaker 1>you don't want to be buying in when everyone else

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<v Speaker 1>is already profited plus fifty percent like they did in

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<v Speaker 1>late November twenty seventeen. And you you do want to

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<v Speaker 1>get in when people are in massive pain like they

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<v Speaker 1>were in May twenty twenty one, or you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>crash in twenty twenty two after the FTX debacle, stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that. It's there's no better way to know what

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<v Speaker 1>a low versus a high is than looking at MVRV

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<v Speaker 1>in my opinion, and RSI to an extent helps, So yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm glad you mentioned what you did.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, for sure. So speaking of smart money, what are

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<v Speaker 2>the Whales doing? Are they continuing to accumulate?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, And we don't need to even spend a ton

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<v Speaker 1>of time on it because it's kind of just business

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<v Speaker 1>as usual. The trend is basically just to and continued

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<v Speaker 1>accumulation long term. I will note that they've dumped roughly

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<v Speaker 1>thirty thousand bitcoin in the last two ish weeks from

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<v Speaker 1>June third until the latest close yesterday, but it's not

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<v Speaker 1>a giant dump by any means. It's kind of just

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<v Speaker 1>a minor one that I would need to see way

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<v Speaker 1>more before I'm concerned that Bitcoin's about to fall off

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<v Speaker 1>the cliff due to lack of smart money support.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you look at the chart, there was a

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<v Speaker 2>huge spike, So it looks like it could be like

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<v Speaker 2>the Whales who are playing the short term game, and

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<v Speaker 2>then of course they're their long term one, the ones

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<v Speaker 2>that view it from a long term that are slowly

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<v Speaker 2>a natural decline off that huge spike.

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<v Speaker 1>You're referring to this June third one right here that

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<v Speaker 1>the reason they kept accumulating is because prices were actually

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<v Speaker 1>slowly sliding down a bit, giving them more and more

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<v Speaker 1>justification to accumulate more as retailers. We're panicking here, and

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<v Speaker 1>then naturally as we rebounded, that's when they offloaded. So

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<v Speaker 1>they they kind of made a short term play here.

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<v Speaker 1>It looks like where they just simply accumulated for a

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<v Speaker 1>a week while it was going up. And now it's

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<v Speaker 1>kind of just when you see prices range. That's actually

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<v Speaker 1>some of the best timing for actually understanding what the

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<v Speaker 1>in this one oh three to one oh six k

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah. Absolutely.

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<v Speaker 2>And on that note, how are ETF inflow is looking.

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<v Speaker 2>highlighting they have been a good amount of inflows.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, this is looking really good. This is even though

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<v Speaker 1>it's saying June seventeenth on my screen. It's a time

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<v Speaker 1>zone thing, so this was actually the close of yesterday.

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<v Speaker 1>We've now seen seven straight days. Today is actually an

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<v Speaker 1>but seven straight days prior to today has been nothing but inflows,

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<v Speaker 1>not a single outflow day since going back to June sixth,

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<v Speaker 1>So it's actually a very encouraging sign that inflows keep

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<v Speaker 1>on coming despite price's sliding mildly over the last what

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<v Speaker 1>forest which actually full week or so?

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<v Speaker 3>Really hmmm? Interesting?

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<v Speaker 2>Now if we could talk stable coins, tether supply, and

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<v Speaker 2>then of course I want to get your thoughts on

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<v Speaker 2>mentions of stable coin because we had the Genius Act

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<v Speaker 2>passing this Senate, so I'm curious what people are saying.

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<v Speaker 2>Are they bullishit about that news and things like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, so for starters, we can just look at the

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<v Speaker 1>overall mentions of stable coins. The redline year is social dominance,

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<v Speaker 1>So this is like the actual percentage of discussions related

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<v Speaker 1>to the word stable coin, USDT or USDC. I might

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<v Speaker 1>as well, add stable coin or stable coins so you

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<v Speaker 1>can get the full picture. Yeah, it's about the same.

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<v Speaker 1>So you can see the social dominance really hit its

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<v Speaker 1>peak about a month from today, month ago, and it's

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<v Speaker 1>back up there now. So it's we're over two percent

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<v Speaker 1>of all discussions in crypto being really related to stable

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<v Speaker 1>coins and USDT and USDC. So people are clearly talking

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<v Speaker 1>about it a lot. But if we get a little

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<v Speaker 1>more crafty here, I can say, let's put all those

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<v Speaker 1>words together, stable coins and the word bullish, and we'll

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<v Speaker 1>see what happens here. Yeah, so you see this big

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<v Speaker 1>spike on June seventeenth, just a couple of days ago. Definitely,

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<v Speaker 1>people are are happy about this overall result and believe

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<v Speaker 1>it's good for crypto. That's what I would take away

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>And then as far as tether supply and how that's

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<v Speaker 2>been performing, curious what you're seeing on that front.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's check out. We'll just do a quick look

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<v Speaker 1>at both teather and usd coin to see how the

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<v Speaker 1>supplant exchanges are looking well overall, as well as the

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<v Speaker 1>ratio of all tether. So there's about thirty three and

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<v Speaker 1>a half billion dollars worth of Tether on exchanges right now,

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<v Speaker 1>it's dropped pretty dramatically. Going back to early February, about

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<v Speaker 1>four and a half months of time elapsing has led

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<v Speaker 1>to ten point five to seven billion dollars less of

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<v Speaker 1>tether on exchanges and about fourteen percent of all tether

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<v Speaker 1>less on exchanges right now. So the dry powder that's

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<v Speaker 1>available has declined pretty dramatically for crypto's top stable coin.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and one of the metrics I usually share with

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<v Speaker 2>my listeners and hearers is tether dominance. And obviously in

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<v Speaker 2>the past month or so we saw decline, not a

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<v Speaker 2>full on drop like we saw in Q four of

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<v Speaker 2>last year and even Q one Q two of twenty

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<v Speaker 2>twenty four, but it's getting so I'm curious to see

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<v Speaker 2>how this plays out.

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<v Speaker 3>Could this be the last leg.

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<v Speaker 2>Of the bull market As we head into July, Bitcoin

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<v Speaker 2>maybe goes to one hundred thirty five to one hundred

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<v Speaker 2>and forty k all coins do their final move, or

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<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe the supply starts to reverse. More usdts

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<v Speaker 2>minted as wills come back in.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting. So just to clarify, are you referring

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<v Speaker 1>to Tether's market cap versus the rest of crypto's market cap. Oh, so.

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<v Speaker 2>It's a tether dominance metric on Trading View, so kind

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<v Speaker 2>of like Bitcoin dominance where it shows.

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<v Speaker 1>I think that's market cap. I'm pretty sure that's what

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<v Speaker 1>Trading View refers to if they're Yeah, if they're talking

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<v Speaker 1>about bitcoin dominance, at least we know it's about price

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<v Speaker 1>or or overall market caps, share share bitcoin has versus

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<v Speaker 1>everything else, so tether probably is the same thing.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was just checking USDC. By the way, market

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<v Speaker 1>caps pretty flat and supply and exchange this is actually

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<v Speaker 1>going up up. But now let's look at Tether's market

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<v Speaker 1>cap overall, and it's been huge. Yeah, it's a it's

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<v Speaker 1>a massive rise in market cap, which you don't often

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<v Speaker 1>see because Tether's price is always going to be pegged

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<v Speaker 1>at a dollar, but its market cap is still always

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<v Speaker 1>doing its own thing. And yeah, there's about nearly eleven

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<v Speaker 1>eleven billion dollars more market cap over the past two months.

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<v Speaker 2>Hm hmm.

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<v Speaker 1>Interesting, that's a pretty huge rise. Thanks for pointing that out.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I mean it could be like if everything goes

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<v Speaker 2>according to plan, and what we see in historically with

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<v Speaker 2>the four year cycles, this, you know, is the blow

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<v Speaker 2>off top here, So I would expect to see the

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<v Speaker 2>stable coin supply increased significantly, specifically around tether, and then

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<v Speaker 2>of course that will move into the crypto market. Then

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<v Speaker 2>it you know, it will cool down as as as

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<v Speaker 2>the prices go up, but then there willation back into

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<v Speaker 2>it as people take profits.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's interesting. I'm just curious because the minting process

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<v Speaker 1>for tea there's always a bit of a mystery. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sure some people know it pretty well, but if we

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<v Speaker 1>look at the supply outside of exchanges, yeah, it's pretty

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<v Speaker 1>much inverse. So this is it looks like it's a

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<v Speaker 1>pretty direct correlation of coins moving out of exchanges and

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<v Speaker 1>going into cold wallets. I was just curious if there's

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<v Speaker 1>just like a maybe the ratio is going down because

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<v Speaker 1>there's a big boost and minted tether going into cold

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<v Speaker 1>wallets and stuff, which does happen, but it's pretty it

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't look like there's much variation. They're pretty much mirror

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<v Speaker 1>images of each other, right now.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah for sure. All right, let's talk to some all coins.

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<v Speaker 2>We could start with eight since that's been looking good lately,

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<v Speaker 2>and there's been some pretty positive news as well with

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<v Speaker 2>companies adopting and eth corporate Treasury strategy.

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<v Speaker 1>Mm hmm, Yeah, I wanted to start here. I put

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<v Speaker 1>this out just about an hour ago. It's just a

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<v Speaker 1>nice look at network growth over time. So for those

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<v Speaker 1>kind of doubting Ethereum, now that it's kind of petered

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<v Speaker 1>out at around twenty five hundred and that big rally

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<v Speaker 1>from late May has temporarily come to a stop, we

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<v Speaker 1>look at network growth, which is just the overall amount

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<v Speaker 1>of new addresses being created. Each of these yellow bars

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<v Speaker 1>represents one week over the past year, and there was

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<v Speaker 1>about five hundred and sixty thousand, six hundred and seventy

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<v Speaker 1>thousand new wallets being created per week last summer around

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<v Speaker 1>this time. Now we're up at anywhere between eight hundred

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<v Speaker 1>k to a million, and the long term trend is

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<v Speaker 1>pretty clear. This is the healthiest we've ever seen Ethereum's

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<v Speaker 1>ecosystem look in terms of just overall growth. So I

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<v Speaker 1>am very encouraged by what Ethereum is doing underneath the hood.

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<v Speaker 1>Right now as people obsess over price, you know, the

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<v Speaker 1>long term sustainability is looking stronger than ever.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm bullish on eth not just because I'm a token holder,

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<v Speaker 2>just I see a lot of adoption, and there's so

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<v Speaker 2>many layer twos and so many people building on it,

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<v Speaker 2>and I think of similar to what happened with XRP.

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<v Speaker 3>People, Okay, it's a dead coin.

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing's going to happen. Yet it's still in the top ten, right,

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<v Speaker 2>top five is having what's having that similar moment? Everybody, Oh,

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<v Speaker 2>it's dead, it's not doing anything. Solana is the better

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<v Speaker 2>coined and all of a sudden it starts melting faces.

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<v Speaker 2>And I think as the SEC approves staking in eth ETFs.

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<v Speaker 3>Is going to drive a lot of demand.

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<v Speaker 1>I would agree, Yeah, I mean you can if you

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<v Speaker 1>can start to steak from an ETF perspective, that's one

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<v Speaker 1>of the only things that I think was holding it

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<v Speaker 1>back was the risk and holding it on chain and

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<v Speaker 1>ETFs would solve that problem. And if you can start

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<v Speaker 1>to steak on top of that, I mean, get ready

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<v Speaker 1>to open the floodgates. In terms of interested parties. Can

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<v Speaker 1>we look at the MBRV for pre Yeah. By the way,

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<v Speaker 1>funding rate is pretty neutral too. I've been keeping an

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<v Speaker 1>eye on that to see if shorts start to pop up,

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<v Speaker 1>sincet negative sentiments starting to creep in. But in terms

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<v Speaker 1>of MVRV, which is right here looking pretty good. So

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<v Speaker 1>they're both in negative range right now, implying that adding

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<v Speaker 1>on or buying a position is less risky than usual

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<v Speaker 1>at this time. Thirty day mvrvs it about negative three

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<v Speaker 1>point nine percent, three sixty five days about negative six

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<v Speaker 1>point seven percent. So as long as you got both

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<v Speaker 1>of these in negative range. As you can see, the

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<v Speaker 1>last time we had that happen was late April, and yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>that turned out to be a pretty nice formula for

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<v Speaker 1>price rises right after that happened. So we're not as

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<v Speaker 1>extreme in the negative range as we saw when you know,

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<v Speaker 1>people were freaked out about the tariffs. But the fact

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<v Speaker 1>that there we've been in this negative range for short

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<v Speaker 1>and long term traders is a solid sign.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, for sure.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's look at XRP, and that has had a lot

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<v Speaker 2>of big news as well recently. Also, companies looking to

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<v Speaker 2>do treasury use it as a treasury reserve asset.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, and by the way, the price has really taken

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<v Speaker 1>a beating. It's not really a reflection of xrps overall viability,

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<v Speaker 1>but it's down seventeen and a half percent over the

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<v Speaker 1>last five weeks or so, so there could be an

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<v Speaker 1>opportunity to buy the dip with some of this positive

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<v Speaker 1>news coming out, I'm seeing plenty of big spikes in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of active addresses like we saw last week, circulation

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<v Speaker 1>spikes in early June. So on chain wise, the network

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<v Speaker 1>looks plenty healthy MVRV wise, you know, because of xrp's

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<v Speaker 1>huge performance at the end of twenty twenty four, there's

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<v Speaker 1>still a lot of average profiting going on long term,

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<v Speaker 1>but at least on the short term basis, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>they're thirty day traders are down about three percent now,

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<v Speaker 1>giving an argument that buying in for the short term

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<v Speaker 1>makes a lot of sense. Now funding rate is super

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<v Speaker 1>neutral at the moment. It would be great if people

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<v Speaker 1>start to doubt XRP, because that would imply those liquidations

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<v Speaker 1>can really shoot up prices with some rocket fuel. But yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't see anything signaling bearishness here. I see a

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<v Speaker 1>lot more positive signs than negative, even dormant tokens. That's

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<v Speaker 1>what this line represents. So when it's going down rather

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<v Speaker 1>than up, it's implying that a lot of stagnant coins

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<v Speaker 1>are moving back into circulation. Especially right here. This big

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<v Speaker 1>bar means there was just a massive amount of XRP

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<v Speaker 1>that moved away from an older wallet that had just

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<v Speaker 1>been sitting and hotling a bunch of coins, and they

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<v Speaker 1>moved it back in their circulation, and right afterwards we

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<v Speaker 1>see that big jump. So we look for slopes in

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<v Speaker 1>that Whoops, didn't need to click on that. We look

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<v Speaker 1>for slopes in this yellow line here because it implies

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<v Speaker 1>that the network is younger in terms of the average

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<v Speaker 1>coins being held in each specific wallet. So I like

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<v Speaker 1>the look of XRP.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and it feels like, you know, going back to

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<v Speaker 2>what we were talking about with the cyclical move of

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<v Speaker 2>the market with RSI and MBRV for bitcoin, and you know,

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<v Speaker 2>a bitcoin leads to the market if Bitcoin was the

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<v Speaker 2>bottom in the coming weeks or so, and then start moving,

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<v Speaker 2>I think we will know that. We know these all

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<v Speaker 2>coins generally follow, so we could see a nice bounce

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<v Speaker 2>for e the XRP and some of the others. Mm

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<v Speaker 2>hm agree. How about Solana, what do you think on

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<v Speaker 2>that front?

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<v Speaker 1>So Solana, we just have social data as well as

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<v Speaker 1>some transaction volume data. Now we've been actively working on

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<v Speaker 1>getting the blockchain data onto Santiment's network, so we're actually

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<v Speaker 1>super excited to finally have transaction volume you can actually

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<v Speaker 1>see the turning point when there was a huge transaction

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<v Speaker 1>volume spike followed by a drop down. These big spikes

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<v Speaker 1>often signal a turning point, as you can see even

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<v Speaker 1>here in late April, we're going way up. We see

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<v Speaker 1>this spike, start to go down, we start to go down.

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<v Speaker 1>We see the spike and we begin to rebound. We

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<v Speaker 1>go up here, biggest spike of the year, and we

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<v Speaker 1>start to go down. So that's interesting to see on

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<v Speaker 1>Solana side, which has actually slid about twenty two percent

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<v Speaker 1>in the last five weeks. If we look at the

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<v Speaker 1>sentiment and funding rate, by the way, is looking neutral,

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<v Speaker 1>but if we look at social dominance, it's not getting

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<v Speaker 1>talked about much right now. It's actually quite quite low.

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<v Speaker 1>This is just the percentage of discussions related to Solana

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<v Speaker 1>versus other cryptocurrencies, and it's kind of at its base

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<v Speaker 1>of a little over three percent now. When there are

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<v Speaker 1>moments where it's above ten percent, and that's when people

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<v Speaker 1>are really really getting behind Solana, or at least it's

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<v Speaker 1>becoming polarizing, which is generally good for the asset. And

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<v Speaker 1>if we just look at the bullish versus bearish sentiment, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it's it's come down quite a bit. There's still about

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<v Speaker 1>four bullish comments for every one bearish comment. Yeah, it's

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<v Speaker 1>it kind of just looks like Solana is being glossed

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<v Speaker 1>over right now as people are distracted by others.

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<v Speaker 3>Interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>I wonder if some of the I'm should I put it,

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<v Speaker 2>the bullishness has calmed down obviously in general because the

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<v Speaker 2>market is cool then, right, But also the meme coin

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<v Speaker 2>movement has kind of digged down in a way.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't get me wrong.

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<v Speaker 2>There's still meme coins out there, some that may be

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<v Speaker 2>performing okay, but there's not that that retail excitement, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>going after these new meme coins and much more.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, great point, Tony. I do think that Solana is

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<v Speaker 1>one of those ecosystems that's strongly tied to meme coin performance.

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<v Speaker 1>And if the more speculator speculator wow, speculative driven assets

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<v Speaker 1>start to dry up, Solana itself gets a bit of

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<v Speaker 1>a hit. And you can see just in the last

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<v Speaker 1>week it's kind of a sea of red. There's always

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<v Speaker 1>a few, you know, exceptions out there, but I'd say,

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<v Speaker 1>what ninety to ninety five percent of the assets we're

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<v Speaker 1>looking at here are bleeding quite a bit.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and even though there's been like some news around

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<v Speaker 2>Solana Corporate Treasury, I know the ETF, the SPOTTYTF is

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<v Speaker 2>making some level of progress with the SEC asking for

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<v Speaker 2>comments and much more, it hasn't gotten much traction and

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<v Speaker 2>that could be, you know, going back to the meme

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<v Speaker 2>coin situation, because a lot of what maybe caught people's

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<v Speaker 2>attention around Salona over the past year has been the

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<v Speaker 2>meme coins versus other things.

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<v Speaker 3>Completely agree interesting.

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<v Speaker 2>Good stuff, Brian, And as always, you know, if we're

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<v Speaker 2>meeting in the next two weeks, I think there's crossed that.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, we're finding a bounce, Bitcoin is bottom of bouncing,

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<v Speaker 2>and then the alts fallow and you know what we

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<v Speaker 2>can be charted looking at different data.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think July is going to be a big month,

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<v Speaker 1>not necessarily bullish or bearish, but it'll be big in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of news because we've got, of course, the conflict

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<v Speaker 1>between Israel and Iran heating up and that's impacting markets.

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<v Speaker 1>But even bigger than that, in my opinion, not in

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<v Speaker 1>terms of real world importance but in terms of crypto markets,

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<v Speaker 1>would be the Terriff situation because we've had this ninety

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<v Speaker 1>day China and US tariffs, and that's going to kind

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<v Speaker 1>of reach its head in mid to late July, if

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not mistaken. And then the EU and the US

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<v Speaker 1>also have a pause. So everything's been kind of kicked

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<v Speaker 1>down the road, and come about thirty to forty five

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<v Speaker 1>days from now, it's it's all gonna start. We're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>find out how real these negotiations have been.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, that's a good point. I forgot about that. They

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<v Speaker 2>just paused it and pushed it out. Maybe the Trump

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<v Speaker 2>does that again and that allows markets to feel bullish,

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<v Speaker 2>get similar to what you know, what we saw with

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<v Speaker 2>the v shape recovery for the stock market and everything,

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<v Speaker 2>and that sends us higher.

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<v Speaker 3>But we'll have to wait and see.

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<v Speaker 1>Absolutely, thanks for having me as always, Tony

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, absolutely, Thanks Brian,
