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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, ripped up that news. You need advice?

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<v Speaker 2>Who you don't have the.

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<v Speaker 1>Come running just as fast.

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<v Speaker 2>As we can.

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<v Speaker 1>So Shooter's gonna help. Come man, This is.

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<v Speaker 2>The Troubleshooter Show.

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<v Speaker 3>No Tom Martino, Hello Tom Martino here, Welcome to the

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<v Speaker 3>only show of it's kind anywhere. And for those of

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<v Speaker 3>you streaming, we have the studio in the bottom part

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<v Speaker 3>of the frame where ugly Mark Major's there and his crew,

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<v Speaker 3>and then I have the remote ship here at my studio,

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<v Speaker 3>and next to me are my two sisters who are

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<v Speaker 3>caretakers for the next couple of weeks.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark, how is that?

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<v Speaker 5>Man?

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<v Speaker 4>Private nurses, how's that? That's pretty incredible? I don't get

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<v Speaker 4>you don't get better than that.

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<v Speaker 3>And uh, they're real, They're really, they really are. By

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<v Speaker 3>the way, nurses and respiratory therapist. They know what they're doing,

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<v Speaker 3>so I have good, good help. And by the way,

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<v Speaker 3>if you're just tuning in again, I don't I don't

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<v Speaker 3>ever want to make the show about me, but it's

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<v Speaker 3>pretty obvious. I've been in and out a lot recently

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<v Speaker 3>and Mark was taking over and really it was cancer.

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<v Speaker 3>That's what it is, pancreatic cancer, which is normally pretty

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<v Speaker 3>much a death sentence, and by some miraculous turn of events,

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<v Speaker 3>mine turned out to be totally operable and isolated and

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<v Speaker 3>the surgery went well. But we've been through a lot

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<v Speaker 3>of ups and downs with the chemo and all that,

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<v Speaker 3>and now I was declared cancer free as a result

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<v Speaker 3>of the curtain two weeks ago. It was a Monday,

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<v Speaker 3>on the twenty eighth of April. And I just the

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<v Speaker 3>reason I'm mentioning this is I've had marks so many

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<v Speaker 3>wonderful well wishers and I want to tell them that

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<v Speaker 3>I thank them, and I'm trying to answer them as

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<v Speaker 3>I can, but i want to say thank you very

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<v Speaker 3>much and we appreciate it. Unless you have any specific questions,

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<v Speaker 3>I'm not going to belabor you with it, but I

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<v Speaker 3>do want to say this that I'm putting myself out

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<v Speaker 3>there if you ever need help or navigating the system,

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<v Speaker 3>or questions about treatment or anything like that.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, I'm a research dog man.

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<v Speaker 3>I went into this thing and I consulted everyone everywhere.

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<v Speaker 2>And if you are going through this, or you just.

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<v Speaker 3>Got slapped in the head with the diagnosis, or you're

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<v Speaker 3>in the middle of chemo and you have questions that

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<v Speaker 3>are non medical, I would love to help you, and

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<v Speaker 3>you can. I'm going to give you this number that

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<v Speaker 3>comes right to my cell phone, absolutely directly to my

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<v Speaker 3>cell phone. It's a Google number seven four seven nine

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<v Speaker 3>nine nine fifty two eighty seven four seven nine nine

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<v Speaker 3>nine fifty two eighty and you will get me directly.

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<v Speaker 2>It'll come right to.

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<v Speaker 3>My cell phone even when we're off the air. Seven

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<v Speaker 3>four seven nine nine nine fifty two eighty. Right now,

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<v Speaker 3>I want to talk to.

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<v Speaker 4>Robert.

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<v Speaker 3>Robert had an issue with a lean from yesterday. Now, Robert,

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<v Speaker 3>let's let's go back.

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<v Speaker 4>Mark. Was this when I was taking Oh yeah, the contractor.

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<v Speaker 2>We didn't even get to his call though, so just

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<v Speaker 2>started from scratch.

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<v Speaker 3>Brother, all right, we'll do that. Why don't you start

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<v Speaker 3>Mark since you handled it to begin with?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, no, what I'm saying, Robert, what's going on?

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<v Speaker 4>Man?

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<v Speaker 6>Hey? So, so I have a friend that has some property.

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<v Speaker 6>I think it's to the north of the city. But anyways,

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<v Speaker 6>he found out that he's got two leans. It's to

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<v Speaker 6>a person that has his same name, same exact name.

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<v Speaker 6>First and last thing.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wait wait a second, A lean on his property.

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<v Speaker 2>What are you saying, even if it's his.

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<v Speaker 6>Six that's what. He's got a lean on his property,

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<v Speaker 6>but there are to a person. It's not his and

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<v Speaker 6>he's been to.

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<v Speaker 2>The wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, what do

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<v Speaker 2>you mean it's not his it's not his property. I

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<v Speaker 2>am puzzled.

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<v Speaker 6>It's not his lean. He doesn't know, he doesn't know,

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<v Speaker 6>oh anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, first of all, Robert, you're confusing me, because a

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<v Speaker 2>lean goes on a property address, A lien is not

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<v Speaker 2>on a person. So is there a lean on the property.

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<v Speaker 2>He owns a lean on the property, and why is

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<v Speaker 2>there a lean on there? Has he done any research?

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<v Speaker 6>Yeah, he's well, actually he's trying to get you. He

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<v Speaker 6>was going to pass the property to his brother, but

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<v Speaker 6>that's how he found out that there is.

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<v Speaker 4>Robert, how old how old is the lean? How old

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<v Speaker 4>is it?

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<v Speaker 6>He thinks it about two years.

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<v Speaker 2>And and he's never gone to court for it. No

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<v Speaker 2>one's ever taken him to court, and he's the sole owner. Well,

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<v Speaker 2>then they never perfected it, and it should drop off.

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<v Speaker 2>And any title company in the world should know that

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<v Speaker 2>all a leen is is all aleen is as a

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<v Speaker 2>place in line to collect your share of the equity.

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<v Speaker 2>But if they did not perfect that, as Mark said,

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<v Speaker 2>if they did not try to foreclose, it drops off.

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<v Speaker 2>But Robert, I have I have so many questions. How

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<v Speaker 2>much is it for? How much is the lean for?

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<v Speaker 6>So there's two leans, one for two thousand and one

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<v Speaker 6>for fifteen hundred, but they are not his. They belong

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<v Speaker 6>to a person that that I mean, it's not to

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<v Speaker 6>It's probably the person that owes the money is someone

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<v Speaker 6>that has the same last name and the same first name.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>Here's what happens when people owe money. This sounds like

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<v Speaker 3>small judgments that were gotten against an individual. And Mark said,

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<v Speaker 3>leans follow the property, and they do. However, when you

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<v Speaker 3>do get a lean on a person, if we got

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<v Speaker 3>a lean against you, Robert, we can then take that lean.

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<v Speaker 4>Excuse me, a judgment against you.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's say we went to small claims court and got

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<v Speaker 3>a judgment for two grand I can then take that

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<v Speaker 3>judgment and turn it into a lean on anything you own,

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<v Speaker 3>including a motor vehicle. So that's probably what happened here.

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<v Speaker 3>It's probably not for work on there. Now, if he

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<v Speaker 3>knows for sure that it was on there in error,

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<v Speaker 3>and he doesn't even know who these vendors are, he

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<v Speaker 3>can have it removed with what's called a quiet title action.

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<v Speaker 3>Maybe we get Brad O'Brien to talk about that. It's

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<v Speaker 3>a quiet title action. Yes, it's it's very simple, but

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<v Speaker 3>you do have to do something about it. This is

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<v Speaker 3>a shotgun approach they use when they get a judgment.

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<v Speaker 3>They go out for everyone with a similar name, and

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<v Speaker 3>if there's property with equity or even without equity, they

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<v Speaker 3>put leans on those properties. But those leans are simply placeholders.

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<v Speaker 3>They can't nothing happens to them unless the creditor tries

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<v Speaker 3>to collect on them.

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<v Speaker 4>So let's get.

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<v Speaker 3>Brad O'Brien up and ask Brad about this, this quiet

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<v Speaker 3>title action and what you have to do to remove this.

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<v Speaker 3>So hold on, Robert, and that's what we'll do. Now, Mark,

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<v Speaker 3>we have a guest today. I noticed another ugly fellow

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<v Speaker 3>in the studio. He is Henry Henry Bretts with Excel roofing,

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<v Speaker 3>one of my original sponsors of all time in Denver

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<v Speaker 3>and the first roofer on the referral list at referralist

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<v Speaker 3>dot com. And Henry right now, I would say, it's

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<v Speaker 3>a slow time, isn't it.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, Tom, absolutely, And you know I'm trying to take

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<v Speaker 7>care of myself.

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<v Speaker 4>I don't think I'm that ugly.

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<v Speaker 3>But well, actually, actually we'll leave that to the audience

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<v Speaker 3>to decide if they want to ask your daughter.

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<v Speaker 2>She's about you know, close in age.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they grew up together. They're like brother and sister.

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<v Speaker 3>They grew up together. They hang out all the time

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<v Speaker 3>and so so. In fact, both kids were born within

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<v Speaker 3>weeks of my kids, and they they've grown up together.

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<v Speaker 4>That's all I can say.

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<v Speaker 3>So No, Dulce thinks Henry's pretty nice and she won't

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<v Speaker 3>say anything bad about him. But Henry, I have a

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<v Speaker 3>really serious question what should be Is there anything we

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<v Speaker 3>need to do right now to get ready for anything

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<v Speaker 3>coming in the spring, because the spring you can't really

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<v Speaker 3>do anything to prevent it.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean, if you're going to get a storm, you

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<v Speaker 4>get a storm.

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<v Speaker 3>But are there things that the winter does to your

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<v Speaker 3>roof that we need to undo or we need to

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<v Speaker 3>check what do you normally do in a case like that?

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<v Speaker 7>Sure, So, I got really three things to talk about,

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<v Speaker 7>and specifically hitting at your first point, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 7>of hail damage that hasn't been addressed yet, and a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of claims are going to expire. Your your window

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<v Speaker 7>to file a claim is going to expire, and we

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<v Speaker 7>can't guarantee that we get another hailstorm this year. So

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<v Speaker 7>I would urge everyone listening if you think you have

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<v Speaker 7>hail damage, to reach out to us first and not

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<v Speaker 7>call your insurance company to just check if you have damage.

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<v Speaker 7>My second point of course, clean your gutters. You know,

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<v Speaker 7>we're coming into the summer here, a lot of leaves

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<v Speaker 7>and stuff of piled in there and there right. And

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<v Speaker 7>then for this month we are running a special. So

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<v Speaker 7>over the winter, solar panels get really dirty, right, and

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<v Speaker 7>that's going to decrease their efficiency. So the special that

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<v Speaker 7>we're running for this month is that we'll come out

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<v Speaker 7>to people's houses and clean their solar panels for fifteen

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<v Speaker 7>bucks each. The average array is probably about ten to

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<v Speaker 7>fifteen panels something like that, so the numbers work out,

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<v Speaker 7>but it's really an investment in the efficiency of the

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<v Speaker 7>panels and it goes a long way.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, excel roofing dot com excel as an excellent excl

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<v Speaker 3>excel roofing dot com three oh three seven six one

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<v Speaker 3>sixty four hundred. They'll clean your solar panels, they'll clean

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<v Speaker 3>your gutters, they do general inspection and maintenance. What I

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<v Speaker 3>love about Excel is they don't just install roofs, They

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<v Speaker 3>service roofs. That's really important to know because many times

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<v Speaker 3>you need service. You need to know the condition of something,

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<v Speaker 3>or where a leak is coming from, or if you

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<v Speaker 3>have a problem with the with the flashing or whatever,

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<v Speaker 3>and they're not there just to sell new roofs. They

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<v Speaker 3>have a regular repair and service department and a maintenance

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<v Speaker 3>department for people, for gutters and for solar panels and

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<v Speaker 3>stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 4>Seven six six four hundred.

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<v Speaker 3>Now we're gonna get Brad O'Brien on to talk about

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<v Speaker 3>leans and how to get a lean off of your

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<v Speaker 3>property if you believe it was put there in error.

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<v Speaker 3>Then we also have an issue with the Parker Police Department. Okay,

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<v Speaker 3>that'll be interesting. All of that coming up on the

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<v Speaker 3>Troubleshooter Show. Go with a sure Thing Denver's Best Roofer

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<v Speaker 3>nine two zero sixteen twenty two. Hey Tom Martino here,

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<v Speaker 3>Three oh three eighty six two five five five four. Listen,

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<v Speaker 3>I have some information on a quiet title action. Let

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<v Speaker 3>me bring Robert up. Robert, our real estate attorney's not available.

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<v Speaker 3>But I went back to some past cases here and

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<v Speaker 3>I took some notes on one similar case that you had,

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<v Speaker 3>that that that we had similar to yours. First and foremost,

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<v Speaker 3>I have to ask these questions, basic answers. How does

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<v Speaker 3>he know that they're not his?

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<v Speaker 4>We have the guy up.

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<v Speaker 3>Is he still there, Robert? How do we know the

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<v Speaker 3>leans are not his? All right, I'll tell you what

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<v Speaker 3>he's Just tell me he's not there, and then I

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<v Speaker 3>can move on.

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<v Speaker 4>Just don't leave me hanging. Is he there or not?

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<v Speaker 4>Let's move on?

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<v Speaker 9>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Thank you, and thank you for answering me, Kachina, I

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<v Speaker 3>certainly appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's go on. Let's just move on.

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<v Speaker 3>But with a quiet title action, you confirm that it's

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<v Speaker 3>not you. If you really don't think it's you, then

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<v Speaker 3>what you do is you move on to the next step,

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<v Speaker 3>and that is you contact them and ask them to

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<v Speaker 3>remove it. If they don't remove it and they know

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<v Speaker 3>it's an error, you're going to have some damages coming your.

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<v Speaker 4>Way if they refuse.

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<v Speaker 3>But you can prepare what's called a quiet title action.

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<v Speaker 4>What you do is you simply.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, good, thank you, thank you.

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<v Speaker 4>Robert.

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<v Speaker 3>How do you know that these leans don't belong to

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<v Speaker 3>your friend?

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<v Speaker 6>Because he went I think he went to the Department

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<v Speaker 6>of Treasury and he went all over the place and

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<v Speaker 6>they told him that those weren't I guess they have

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<v Speaker 6>some type of account number and they recognize that.

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<v Speaker 10>Okay, he is well.

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<v Speaker 2>And if they didn't get a judgment in the last year,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean he's way past the dates.

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<v Speaker 3>Right, right, So if they didn't do anything, if you

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<v Speaker 3>simply have a lean on your property, why does he

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<v Speaker 3>care about them?

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<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you.

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<v Speaker 3>That, because he wants to transfer the home to his brother. Yes, okay,

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<v Speaker 3>did he ask the creditors to remove the leans?

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<v Speaker 6>I don't think he got to that point. But they

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<v Speaker 6>won't give him any information because it's not his information,

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<v Speaker 6>so they know that they're not.

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<v Speaker 2>No, I get it, I get it.

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<v Speaker 3>He has to contact Are they two different creditors or

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<v Speaker 3>are they the same creditor for each one?

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<v Speaker 6>It's two different ones.

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<v Speaker 4>That's very odd, very very odd.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, what he has to do he has to make

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<v Speaker 3>a record of contacting each party and asking them to

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<v Speaker 3>either provide evidence that he is the debtor or to

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<v Speaker 3>remove it. And he has to do that so he

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<v Speaker 3>can he can keep a file and if they do

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<v Speaker 3>not answer him, or if they do not release it,

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<v Speaker 3>then what he has to do is he has to

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<v Speaker 3>file a quiet it's called quiet like noisy, it's quiet

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<v Speaker 3>a quiet title action.

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<v Speaker 4>And what he.

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<v Speaker 3>Does is it's it's really a lawsuit and all it

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<v Speaker 3>is is a declaration filed with the court asking that

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<v Speaker 3>the leans be removed because they're not his. And he

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<v Speaker 3>puts down his name, his address, his social and he

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<v Speaker 3>and he he tells them it's not his. He sends

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<v Speaker 3>those copies of the documents into the courts against the creditor.

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<v Speaker 3>Now that creditor now has to answer the complaint. This

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<v Speaker 3>should not be done on his own.

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<v Speaker 2>It's basically a very it is.

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<v Speaker 3>A mini lawsuit. That's exactly what it is. And what

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<v Speaker 3>you're saying is this is not mine, remove it, and they.

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<v Speaker 8>Have to legally.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, I would get Brad O'Brien. Yes, you need an attorney.

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<v Speaker 3>Unfortunately, you can figure it out on your own if

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<v Speaker 3>you want. You know, you can look up quiet title

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<v Speaker 3>action to remove leans.

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<v Speaker 2>The other thing to look at is notice of contest

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<v Speaker 2>and that's where you'll simply serve them basically a thirty

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<v Speaker 2>day notice and they're going to have to be required

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<v Speaker 2>to file a lawsuit against you within that thirty days

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<v Speaker 2>or they need to get rid of the lean.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, yeah, and all right, and hey, mark that notice

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<v Speaker 3>that you just talked about, Yes, when how much time

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<v Speaker 3>does he have to do that?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it doesn't matter once you figure out the liens

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<v Speaker 2>on there, and this is only if it's invalid one

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<v Speaker 2>invalidly and like this guy's saying, you can actually just

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<v Speaker 2>google Colorado Notice of contest on a lean and basically

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<v Speaker 2>fill that out, have them served with that, and basically

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<v Speaker 2>within thirty days they have to file a lawsuit or

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<v Speaker 2>drop it, and then if they don't, you can start

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<v Speaker 2>seeking damages or your brother or whoever it is.

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<v Speaker 3>Now, by the way, there is also something called a

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<v Speaker 3>bush up or vessel a wrongful lean.

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<v Speaker 2>So here's what he should do.

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<v Speaker 4>First.

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<v Speaker 3>Before you do what Mark suggested or I suggested with

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<v Speaker 3>quiet title, the very first thing you should do is

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<v Speaker 3>go to the county clerk and ask what is the

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<v Speaker 3>easiest way to expunge this wrongful lean.

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<v Speaker 4>Sometimes they have a form you can fill.

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<v Speaker 3>Out, which is a motion, but they help you because

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<v Speaker 3>it's all there and you just have to fill it

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<v Speaker 3>out like the lean on a date and how much

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<v Speaker 3>it is, and then you simply make a statement it's

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<v Speaker 3>not mine, and then you.

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<v Speaker 4>File it with the clerk.

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<v Speaker 3>The clerk then sends notice out to the other party

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<v Speaker 3>and will expunge it if they don't answer. So some

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<v Speaker 3>counties do that, some do not, unfortunately, and I've always

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<v Speaker 3>thought this was unfortunate.

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<v Speaker 2>There are no easy ways to clear up title.

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<v Speaker 3>Anyone can put a lien on your property for any

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<v Speaker 3>reason whatsoever, and it's up to you to get it removed.

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<v Speaker 3>And I always thought that was quite unfair. I even

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<v Speaker 3>thought that people who put liens on your homes and

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<v Speaker 3>make you do this should be responsible for your legal

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<v Speaker 3>fees because you're and they're fat and happy, and all

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<v Speaker 3>of a sudden you get like a lean on your

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<v Speaker 3>property and it's done.

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<v Speaker 2>It's either done in error, true error, or it's.

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<v Speaker 3>Done because they find fifty Jack Smith's so they say,

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<v Speaker 3>you know what, let's put liens on all fifty of them.

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<v Speaker 2>And they do that.

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<v Speaker 3>Now Mark Parker Police Department. I don't understand what's going

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<v Speaker 3>on with this.

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<v Speaker 10>A couple of days after Thanksgiving, around five thirty pm,

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<v Speaker 10>thirty four degrees, my son was playing lacrosse that afternoon

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<v Speaker 10>and he was driving my Honda Cord Older one without headlights.

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<v Speaker 10>He forgot to turn on the headlights. He gets pulled

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<v Speaker 10>over for.

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<v Speaker 2>A d You want what time of day was this?

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<v Speaker 4>What time of day was there?

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<v Speaker 11>Five PM? A couple of days after.

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<v Speaker 4>Things get okay, So his headlights were off.

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<v Speaker 2>Where's the DUI come in? Did I? Did I hear that?

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<v Speaker 3>Right?

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<v Speaker 4>Well, that's what I want to know.

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<v Speaker 10>So he over on Chambers and then he pulls over

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<v Speaker 10>into a side street. He swipes the curb a little

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<v Speaker 10>bit and the police officer, brand new officer that just

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<v Speaker 10>passed FTO thirty days ago, hired in June, officer Walter Copeland.

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<v Speaker 4>He uh, none of that matters, you know, Mark.

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<v Speaker 3>It doesn't matter when he passed his test or when

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<v Speaker 3>he went on duty.

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<v Speaker 4>What matters is your your son's blood alcohol.

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<v Speaker 10>He comes to the window and the first thing he

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<v Speaker 10>says out of his mouth is how much did you have.

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<v Speaker 11>To drink tonight? He says none, Well.

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<v Speaker 10>Your eyes are red. Step out of the car. I'm

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<v Speaker 10>gonna ask you one more time.

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<v Speaker 11>How much? How much did you have to drink tonight?

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<v Speaker 2>Nothing?

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<v Speaker 12>He does a right, he does a CFS and he

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<v Speaker 12>claimed that he had mistagnus a gues.

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<v Speaker 2>He never took the breathalyzer. Where are we going?

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 10>He takes them into custody, takes them into Parker PD.

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<v Speaker 10>And he blows, He blows triple zeros, releases them, releases him.

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<v Speaker 10>He's sixteen years old. He releases him into my custody.

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<v Speaker 10>And the officer says, I made a mistake. So, okay,

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<v Speaker 10>here I am here. I am trying to sue in

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<v Speaker 10>civil court in small claims for what seven thousand?

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<v Speaker 2>What are you suing for? What are you suing for?

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<v Speaker 4>Mark?

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<v Speaker 10>False arrest, false imprisonment violation and Fourth Amendment?

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<v Speaker 3>Right, there's no false that's not a false arrest and

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<v Speaker 3>false for Is that a small claims avenue?

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<v Speaker 2>Whatsoever?

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<v Speaker 4>But Mark, really, I want to analyze this. I know you, Mark,

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<v Speaker 4>I know you're angry. I know you're upset, and I

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<v Speaker 4>would be too.

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<v Speaker 3>But just because the officer made a mistake, the officer

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<v Speaker 3>only has to have a suspicion. There's no way an

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<v Speaker 3>officer in every arrest, in every case, can have a

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<v Speaker 3>foregone conclusion. And that is a slam dunk conviction. So

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<v Speaker 3>the officer did not do a false arrest or a

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<v Speaker 3>false imprisonment. He did an intentional arrest and an intentional

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<v Speaker 3>hold holding.

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<v Speaker 2>It's not false.

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<v Speaker 3>False is when they know it to be false, they

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<v Speaker 3>know it not to be valid. But they do it

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<v Speaker 3>for their own personal reasons, and or they do it

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<v Speaker 3>because they're vindictive or vicious.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't have a case here.

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<v Speaker 3>And no, no, I have another question, though, Mark, I

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<v Speaker 3>really do now, and I'm not trying to put you down.

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<v Speaker 3>I truly want to dissect the thinking process here.

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<v Speaker 2>What are your damages?

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<v Speaker 10>Moral damages for a success?

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<v Speaker 2>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 11>Driver?

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<v Speaker 4>What does that mean?

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<v Speaker 8>What is moral?

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<v Speaker 10>What of his mind? Being arrested for no cause?

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<v Speaker 12>Putting hands?

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<v Speaker 10>What police car is saying that he is under arrest?

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'd be pissed.

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<v Speaker 3>And so what are the damages? Did you go to

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<v Speaker 3>a psychiatrist? Did do a psychiatrist? Say your son suffers?

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<v Speaker 2>What you have to have damages?

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<v Speaker 13>Okay, violation?

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<v Speaker 3>Tell me about Tell me what right? Tell me what violation?

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<v Speaker 3>What rights were violated?

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<v Speaker 4>Mark?

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<v Speaker 2>What rights?

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<v Speaker 10>Fourth Amendments?

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<v Speaker 11>Right was violated? Taken into coach?

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<v Speaker 3>No, no, don't say fourth No, don't say Fourth Amendment.

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<v Speaker 3>Don't say Fourth Amendment. Tell me the rights that were violated.

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<v Speaker 11>He was seized when he shouldn't have been seized.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, let me ask you something, Mark, do you think

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<v Speaker 3>every single time someone is arrested it results in a conviction?

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<v Speaker 5>No.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, So the ones that don't result in a conviction,

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<v Speaker 3>are they all seized under false pretenses?

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<v Speaker 4>Are they all violated?

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<v Speaker 14>Most likely not?

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<v Speaker 3>But you feel your do you feel the officer? Here's

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<v Speaker 3>what I'm thinking. Do you think the officer targeted your

448
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<v Speaker 3>son and did it vindictively?

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<v Speaker 11>Yes?

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<v Speaker 4>Why?

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<v Speaker 10>I think he was uneducated? He was his first arrest.

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<v Speaker 4>No, that's not what I said. I said, did he

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<v Speaker 4>target the boy?

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<v Speaker 3>And did he do it vindictively to cause pain and

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<v Speaker 3>suffering to your son? Knowing that the chargers were false?

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<v Speaker 3>That's what false imprisonment and false arrest is. Okay, you

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<v Speaker 3>really believe, and you really believe Mark, Mark. Listen, if

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<v Speaker 3>the officer had a reasonable suspicion your son had been

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<v Speaker 3>drinking and arrested him and it turned out that your

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<v Speaker 3>son blew zeros and was not high or stoned, the

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<v Speaker 3>system worked. The system worked going after the process. There

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<v Speaker 3>is nothing wrong with what happened it, you know from

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<v Speaker 3>just what you're telling me. If that officer he might

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<v Speaker 3>have been doubtful and not know and he did this

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<v Speaker 3>for safety reasons. But unless Mark, here's the bottom line, bro,

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<v Speaker 3>You're you're gonna lose at every turn. You're not gonna

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<v Speaker 3>get anything. You're just not How long ago was this

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<v Speaker 3>It was.

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<v Speaker 11>A couple of days after Thanksgiving.

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<v Speaker 3>I would if I and you have been trying to

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<v Speaker 3>fight this this whole time.

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<v Speaker 4>You've been trying to file a lawsuit.

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<v Speaker 3>Correct, you can file a lawsuit against the officer easily.

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<v Speaker 4>Why didn't you just hire an attorney to do that?

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<v Speaker 11>I need a recommendation. I'm calling you.

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<v Speaker 3>Do Okay, Okay, I'm gonna call Joelasara And since you

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<v Speaker 3>called us, listen, even though I disagree with you, I

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<v Speaker 3>want to at least give you the avenue to research this.

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<v Speaker 2>And I want to know what Joela Zarra has to say.

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<v Speaker 4>Tom.

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<v Speaker 2>I just I don't know. If I i'd be very upset,

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<v Speaker 2>and I know you would too if this happened to

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<v Speaker 2>your kid. Yes, but I want to bring it at

484
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<v Speaker 2>I want to bring it one more step. How about

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<v Speaker 2>if it was, like I don't know, in Detroit or

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<v Speaker 2>Michigan five years ago, and it was a black kid

487
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<v Speaker 2>getting pulled over by a white officer with the exact

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<v Speaker 2>same thing. I mean, there could be lawsuits, there could

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<v Speaker 2>be protests, there could be a million things going on.

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<v Speaker 2>I'd be very upset if I was this guy as well,

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<v Speaker 2>whether or not i'd bring a lawsuit that that has

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<v Speaker 2>nothing to do with it, but I might bring the

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<v Speaker 2>hell out of that cop.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah you know, listen, I know I know that I

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<v Speaker 3>would be upset, so Mark, I don't want to, but

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<v Speaker 3>I would know. There is no lawsuit here, there is

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<v Speaker 3>no there are no damages.

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<v Speaker 4>Your son.

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<v Speaker 3>Has he been to a psychiatrist or a psychologist once

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<v Speaker 3>over this incident?

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<v Speaker 2>Once?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay?

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<v Speaker 15>Then how are you going to prove any kind of

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<v Speaker 15>emotional trauma? And in real life is it actually affected him?

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<v Speaker 15>But let's get Mark Mark real quick. In real life,

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<v Speaker 15>forget about if he went to a shrink or anything.

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<v Speaker 15>Is he carrying on his normal or did this really

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<v Speaker 15>affect him outside of the half hour or hour he

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<v Speaker 15>went through.

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<v Speaker 10>Oh he's an honor student, he's too smart for this.

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<v Speaker 10>So the fact that has happened, Yeah, I'm pissed.

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<v Speaker 2>He got a break.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I know you are. I got to take a break, Mark.

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<v Speaker 3>Let's get an attorney on who handles these kinds of defenses,

515
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<v Speaker 3>and he has sued police, and we'll talk to him

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<v Speaker 3>right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>Go with a sure thing.

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<v Speaker 3>durand the real estate Man dot com to list your

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<v Speaker 3>home with Remax Alliance three oh three nine two zero

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<v Speaker 3>seven one three talk seven one three eight two five five.

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<v Speaker 4>We're trying to get an attorney on for Mark. Until

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<v Speaker 4>we do, let's go over to Carl and talk to Carl.

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<v Speaker 3>Carl, what's going on with your medical bill?

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<v Speaker 16>I was at an event in uh Newport Beach a

532
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<v Speaker 16>couple months ago and had a little medical event, nothing

533
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<v Speaker 16>nothing big, just dizzy, and paramedics showed up and said, hey,

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<v Speaker 16>can we check you out real quick?

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<v Speaker 3>But wait a minute, Carl, when you say you had

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<v Speaker 3>an event nothing too big and paramedics showed up, are

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<v Speaker 3>they walking down the street and see you?

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<v Speaker 4>Or I mean, how did they show up? Who called them?

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<v Speaker 16>Someone called them?

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<v Speaker 14>Someone called them, probably the hotel.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, why what were you exhibiting? Why would they call?

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<v Speaker 3>I would like like somebody looked at you and said,

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<v Speaker 3>call paramedics.

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<v Speaker 4>What were you doing when.

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<v Speaker 14>They said that, I I I got busy.

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<v Speaker 16>I didn't really pass out, but I kind uh very

547
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<v Speaker 16>close to passing out.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, but did anyone observe this?

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<v Speaker 14>Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, a number of people?

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<v Speaker 4>Okay, okay, got it?

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<v Speaker 3>And uh so someone called paramedics and what happened?

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<v Speaker 16>They came, They checked me out. They said, we think

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<v Speaker 16>you should go to the hospital. And I said, no,

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<v Speaker 16>not a chance, that's not going to happen. I'm not

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<v Speaker 16>there's nothing, there is really nothing wrong with me. And

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<v Speaker 16>they said, well, you gotta you gotta talk with somebody

557
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<v Speaker 16>at the hospit biddle or whatever to deny services or whatever.

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<v Speaker 16>And so I did all that and.

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<v Speaker 14>They went about their way. I went, wait, wait, wait.

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<v Speaker 3>How did you how did you talk to people at

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<v Speaker 3>the hospital? Was it on on a cell phone or how.

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<v Speaker 16>Yeah, on the paramedic I think he brought it up

563
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<v Speaker 16>on on like a tablet or something.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, And you denied and you so you opted out

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<v Speaker 3>of further.

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<v Speaker 14>Chair medical advice.

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<v Speaker 11>Okay.

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<v Speaker 3>They wanted to be not okay, I know what that is.

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<v Speaker 3>They were doing that so they're not blamed if something

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<v Speaker 3>happened to you.

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<v Speaker 14>They were okay, exactly got it.

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<v Speaker 16>And so I mean, they did hook me up to a.

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<v Speaker 14>Mobile EKG. They checked my blood.

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<v Speaker 16>Pressure, checked my blood sugar, and everything was normal with

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<v Speaker 16>the well everything was normal. Blood sugar was a little

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<v Speaker 16>bit low, but everything was normal. And I went, now, okay, Well,

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<v Speaker 16>so I figured I figured paramedics showed up. This is

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<v Speaker 16>part of you know, public servant type stuff, and that

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<v Speaker 16>you know it's taxpayer funded. I get a bill in

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<v Speaker 16>the mail, like five hundreds. At first, they wanted to

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<v Speaker 16>know about my insurance, and I just ignored that.

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<v Speaker 11>Well, then they send me a.

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<v Speaker 16>Bill an invoice and I can pay them one hundred

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<v Speaker 16>and twenty dollars because they think I'm uninsured. If I

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<v Speaker 16>tell them I have insurance, they want like five hundred

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<v Speaker 16>and eighty some dollars.

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<v Speaker 7>So I have a question real quick. Did you end

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<v Speaker 7>up giving them your address? It sounds like you didn't

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<v Speaker 7>give them your insurance information.

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<v Speaker 16>I didn't give them insurance information. I don't think I did, no,

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<v Speaker 16>But they took my address and everything they wanted, all

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<v Speaker 16>that info, and they.

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<v Speaker 7>Clearly understand that you denied their services.

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<v Speaker 16>Well, I mean I allowed them to check me out,

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<v Speaker 16>but that was it. I wasn't going to the hospital here.

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<v Speaker 4>But they did they ask you. Here's what I need

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<v Speaker 4>to know.

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<v Speaker 3>When they first showed up, did they say do you

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<v Speaker 3>mind if we check you out?

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<v Speaker 4>Or did they just go to work?

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<v Speaker 16>They said, do you mind if we check you out?

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<v Speaker 6>All right?

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<v Speaker 2>That was the.

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<v Speaker 3>Approval you gave, and you could have said no. And

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<v Speaker 3>the problem here is if they came up and started

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<v Speaker 3>treating you without you saying anything or doing anything, you

607
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<v Speaker 3>couldn't have been held responsible for that. But if they

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<v Speaker 3>came up and said, sir, we were told you're a

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<v Speaker 3>little dizzy or you're a little lops at whatever, and we.

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<v Speaker 2>Want to check you out, is that okay?

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<v Speaker 3>And if you gave them approval, even though you thought

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<v Speaker 3>it was it was some kind of charity thing or

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<v Speaker 3>public service thing, that could be construed as approval. And furthermore,

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<v Speaker 3>if you opted out of the care, it showed that

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<v Speaker 3>you probably were looked at. I think it's going to

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<v Speaker 3>be hard, but they could definitely not bill you for

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<v Speaker 3>just showing up without you calling, and if you're just

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<v Speaker 3>there and they do it, they don't. They can't get

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<v Speaker 3>you to pay for it. So where does it stand

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<v Speaker 3>right now?

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<v Speaker 16>Well, they sent me an invoice, then that's pretty much

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<v Speaker 16>where it's at.

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<v Speaker 14>And I just haven't I.

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<v Speaker 16>Just want I just figured I gotta figure out what

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<v Speaker 16>I need to do with it. And I just thought

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<v Speaker 16>it was I mean, it's basically the fire department showed up.

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<v Speaker 14>If fire department showed up and your house is.

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<v Speaker 2>On fire.

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<v Speaker 16>And they put the fire out, you don't pay the

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<v Speaker 16>fire department for putting the fire up.

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<v Speaker 8>Come run anxious as fast as you can.

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<v Speaker 1>Shooter's gonna help.

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<v Speaker 2>some help. Maybe a bad contractor out there, a bad

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<v Speaker 2>love dealing with bad landlords. And we've had deputies that

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<v Speaker 2>get the heat turned back on or actually get them

652
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<v Speaker 2>hot water. Fix a hot water heater. After three or

653
00:34:12.920 --> 00:34:16.280
<v Speaker 2>four weeks, it gets a little ridiculous. And here's the

654
00:34:16.360 --> 00:34:19.400
<v Speaker 2>other bottom line. You're ready for this. Any advice you need,

655
00:34:19.440 --> 00:34:21.480
<v Speaker 2>We got a list of attorneys we can get on

656
00:34:21.559 --> 00:34:25.199
<v Speaker 2>at referral liss dot com for free legal advice. Where

657
00:34:25.280 --> 00:34:27.840
<v Speaker 2>else in this world can you do it? I got

658
00:34:27.840 --> 00:34:31.320
<v Speaker 2>Henry Brett sitting on my left, Deputy d across from me,

659
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:35.760
<v Speaker 2>Scott over there making some noise, Kelly answering the phone,

660
00:34:35.840 --> 00:34:38.719
<v Speaker 2>and of course Shannon running the board. Three O three

661
00:34:38.800 --> 00:34:42.159
<v Speaker 2>seven one, three eight two five five. Any issues you have,

662
00:34:42.480 --> 00:34:45.000
<v Speaker 2>three oh three Martino. That number works on and off

663
00:34:45.079 --> 00:34:47.280
<v Speaker 2>the air. We got three lines open. We are going

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<v Speaker 2>to have an attorney on in about ten or fifteen minutes.

665
00:34:50.440 --> 00:34:53.880
<v Speaker 2>Is at right, Kelly, I think we're getting Marco Bendonelli.

666
00:34:54.039 --> 00:34:55.800
<v Speaker 2>We are going to get Marco one yet. Yeah, So

667
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<v Speaker 2>there's two different things we're gonna talk about Mark with

668
00:34:59.239 --> 00:35:03.639
<v Speaker 2>that issue with the Parker Police Department. In Mark, I've

669
00:35:03.679 --> 00:35:06.599
<v Speaker 2>got a little different insight I want to give you,

670
00:35:06.639 --> 00:35:10.000
<v Speaker 2>But we are going to get Marco on I part

671
00:35:10.400 --> 00:35:13.519
<v Speaker 2>ways with Tom on one part of it. I'd be

672
00:35:13.679 --> 00:35:15.960
<v Speaker 2>very well, you know what Tom said, he'd be upset too,

673
00:35:16.039 --> 00:35:18.280
<v Speaker 2>so that's not even fair of me to see. I

674
00:35:18.320 --> 00:35:21.000
<v Speaker 2>don't think there's any lawsuit there, but I definitely want

675
00:35:21.039 --> 00:35:23.400
<v Speaker 2>to talk to Marco on it. What I would want

676
00:35:23.480 --> 00:35:26.239
<v Speaker 2>to do is make sure that cop gets retrained. And

677
00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:29.400
<v Speaker 2>if you're just joining us. Basically, Mark's kid was pulled

678
00:35:29.400 --> 00:35:33.159
<v Speaker 2>over coming back from a lacrosse game and he saw

679
00:35:33.199 --> 00:35:35.039
<v Speaker 2>the lights come on. Hey Mark, why did they pull

680
00:35:35.119 --> 00:35:37.639
<v Speaker 2>him over? What was the original reason they saw him

681
00:35:37.840 --> 00:35:39.280
<v Speaker 2>hit a curb or what happened?

682
00:35:40.800 --> 00:35:43.159
<v Speaker 10>He was driving without his headlights?

683
00:35:43.559 --> 00:35:46.199
<v Speaker 2>Ah, I got you. That's a reason to get pulled over.

684
00:35:46.360 --> 00:35:49.840
<v Speaker 10>And then he hit a curb and he was over.

685
00:35:50.119 --> 00:35:53.480
<v Speaker 10>I got you as much right to the possible as possible.

686
00:35:53.599 --> 00:35:55.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I got it. Then he hit a curb. The

687
00:35:55.159 --> 00:35:57.800
<v Speaker 2>police officer pulled him over, said he had red eyes,

688
00:35:58.280 --> 00:36:00.599
<v Speaker 2>and did he do a field for bread? I mean,

689
00:36:00.639 --> 00:36:03.519
<v Speaker 2>did he touch his nose? He did all that? And

690
00:36:04.039 --> 00:36:04.960
<v Speaker 2>are they saying.

691
00:36:04.719 --> 00:36:07.519
<v Speaker 7>He's saying my question? I mean, did they breathalyze him

692
00:36:07.519 --> 00:36:10.719
<v Speaker 7>on scene? Yeah?

693
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<v Speaker 10>If they breathalyzed them on scene, I want to be

694
00:36:12.760 --> 00:36:15.679
<v Speaker 10>calling you. But they took him, they arrested him and

695
00:36:15.880 --> 00:36:19.639
<v Speaker 10>took a much mugshot, and they were about to do

696
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<v Speaker 10>fingerprints or they did, Well.

697
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:26.559
<v Speaker 2>You just brought something up. I wonder they prints, So

698
00:36:26.760 --> 00:36:29.719
<v Speaker 2>I wonder how that works. I'm gonna ask Marco that

699
00:36:30.719 --> 00:36:33.360
<v Speaker 2>when we get him on That's very interesting. If you

700
00:36:33.440 --> 00:36:36.119
<v Speaker 2>get arrested for a DUI, they do a mug shot,

701
00:36:36.519 --> 00:36:39.280
<v Speaker 2>they fingerprint you, you are now in the system, no

702
00:36:39.320 --> 00:36:42.199
<v Speaker 2>matter what I mean. Do they have to get rid

703
00:36:42.239 --> 00:36:45.840
<v Speaker 2>of that stuff or that's just part of living in Parker,

704
00:36:45.880 --> 00:36:48.760
<v Speaker 2>Colorado or anywhere else in the country for that matter.

705
00:36:49.159 --> 00:36:53.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how that works. That. That's an interesting

706
00:36:53.159 --> 00:36:55.719
<v Speaker 2>point to this. I didn't think of Dmitri. What do

707
00:36:55.760 --> 00:36:56.280
<v Speaker 2>you think of that?

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<v Speaker 17>Well, I'm interested in seeing if if he was actually

709
00:37:01.360 --> 00:37:04.480
<v Speaker 17>charged with something or did they eventually did a breathalyzer

710
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<v Speaker 17>or a blood test.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh, I'm sorry you missed the first You missed that

712
00:37:08.079 --> 00:37:10.119
<v Speaker 2>cost you know. So they pull him over, just like

713
00:37:10.199 --> 00:37:13.599
<v Speaker 2>you said, they for whatever reason, they don't give him

714
00:37:13.599 --> 00:37:16.360
<v Speaker 2>a roadside breathalyzer. It could because of his age. I

715
00:37:16.360 --> 00:37:19.360
<v Speaker 2>don't know how that that consent works for that either,

716
00:37:19.400 --> 00:37:22.480
<v Speaker 2>because he's sixteen. They get him to the station, he

717
00:37:22.519 --> 00:37:27.320
<v Speaker 2>blows zeros and basically the cop did he kind of apologized, right,

718
00:37:27.400 --> 00:37:28.599
<v Speaker 2>or said I made a mistake.

719
00:37:28.880 --> 00:37:30.480
<v Speaker 11>No, he made a mistake.

720
00:37:30.760 --> 00:37:33.159
<v Speaker 2>Apology, So he said I made a mistake. Well, that's

721
00:37:33.159 --> 00:37:35.519
<v Speaker 2>somewhat of an apology. Mark, I know you're pissed. I'd

722
00:37:35.519 --> 00:37:38.639
<v Speaker 2>be pissed too, But I mean that's some acknowledgment of something.

723
00:37:38.679 --> 00:37:40.480
<v Speaker 2>At least he.

724
00:37:40.519 --> 00:37:44.440
<v Speaker 10>Charged them and processed fingerprints before he blew zeros.

725
00:37:44.599 --> 00:37:46.000
<v Speaker 2>That does not make any sense.

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00:37:46.079 --> 00:37:48.280
<v Speaker 7>I mean, why wouldn't they just have him use the

727
00:37:48.320 --> 00:37:51.440
<v Speaker 7>breathalyzer on scene? Did he deny to use it?

728
00:37:51.679 --> 00:37:53.480
<v Speaker 2>I don't know if they can at such team.

729
00:37:55.480 --> 00:37:58.039
<v Speaker 7>They bring him back saying he asked for him, So

730
00:37:58.159 --> 00:38:00.519
<v Speaker 7>why would they bring him back to the police apartment.

731
00:38:00.719 --> 00:38:03.000
<v Speaker 2>I don't know how it works with minors, Henry, I

732
00:38:03.079 --> 00:38:05.199
<v Speaker 2>just don't know, but I bet Marco does when we

733
00:38:05.280 --> 00:38:08.920
<v Speaker 2>get him on. But I'm more interested in everything right now.

734
00:38:08.960 --> 00:38:10.280
<v Speaker 2>First of all, Mark, I'm going to lay out I

735
00:38:10.320 --> 00:38:12.599
<v Speaker 2>don't think you have a lawsuit at all. I don't

736
00:38:12.599 --> 00:38:15.400
<v Speaker 2>know what your damages would be. There might be something

737
00:38:15.440 --> 00:38:18.119
<v Speaker 2>to where your rights were violated, but that's not going

738
00:38:18.199 --> 00:38:20.199
<v Speaker 2>to put a lot of money in your pocket. It

739
00:38:20.280 --> 00:38:23.519
<v Speaker 2>might correct a circumstance, but really, what I think is

740
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<v Speaker 2>it's a new cop. Just like you said, I would

741
00:38:26.480 --> 00:38:30.880
<v Speaker 2>make sure his commanding officer makes sure to look at

742
00:38:30.920 --> 00:38:34.880
<v Speaker 2>the body cam, which I know most police forces wear

743
00:38:34.960 --> 00:38:36.559
<v Speaker 2>now they have to wear him and they have to

744
00:38:36.559 --> 00:38:39.559
<v Speaker 2>be on basically every stop. And I think Parker Castle

745
00:38:39.639 --> 00:38:42.639
<v Speaker 2>Rock they all fall under that in Douglas County and

746
00:38:42.760 --> 00:38:46.280
<v Speaker 2>the dash cam, and I would see where it went wrong.

747
00:38:46.599 --> 00:38:49.079
<v Speaker 2>I mean, is it possible, Mark, your kid came out

748
00:38:49.280 --> 00:38:51.599
<v Speaker 2>and he's nervous and he's kind of tripping around, and

749
00:38:51.639 --> 00:38:54.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe he does have red eyes. I mean, I don't know.

750
00:38:54.440 --> 00:38:56.639
<v Speaker 2>I do find it very hard and I'd love to

751
00:38:56.679 --> 00:38:59.199
<v Speaker 2>hear from a cop. I would love to hear from

752
00:38:59.239 --> 00:39:02.320
<v Speaker 2>a copper retimeired cop. How many times did you bring

753
00:39:02.400 --> 00:39:06.639
<v Speaker 2>someone in on DUI all the way to the station

754
00:39:07.280 --> 00:39:10.800
<v Speaker 2>and they blow zeros? I would assume most cops that

755
00:39:10.920 --> 00:39:12.800
<v Speaker 2>does not happen to but I could be wrong.

756
00:39:13.000 --> 00:39:15.360
<v Speaker 17>Well, Gary, you know you remember last Monday we had

757
00:39:15.400 --> 00:39:19.519
<v Speaker 17>a special guest here, retired Aurora lieutenant Gary. We can

758
00:39:19.519 --> 00:39:21.199
<v Speaker 17>give him a call if you want and kind of

759
00:39:21.239 --> 00:39:22.800
<v Speaker 17>get him to weigh in on this topic.

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00:39:23.000 --> 00:39:25.039
<v Speaker 4>I wouldn't find that at all. I mean, I love

761
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<v Speaker 4>the topic.

762
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<v Speaker 2>What I'm even more curious about from a legal Standpointoh,

763
00:39:29.519 --> 00:39:32.320
<v Speaker 2>I don't care what the crime is. Just hold tight, Mark.

764
00:39:32.360 --> 00:39:34.480
<v Speaker 2>As soon as we get Marco up. I promise you

765
00:39:34.480 --> 00:39:37.280
<v Speaker 2>can ask the attorney all the questions in the world.

766
00:39:37.519 --> 00:39:40.440
<v Speaker 2>But what I'm really curious about, I don't care what

767
00:39:40.480 --> 00:39:44.239
<v Speaker 2>crime it is. But you get arrested, you get fingerprinted.

768
00:39:44.320 --> 00:39:46.639
<v Speaker 2>Maybe I don't even know. Do they take DNA? I

769
00:39:46.639 --> 00:39:49.480
<v Speaker 2>don't even know what they can do now. So whatever

770
00:39:49.519 --> 00:39:52.679
<v Speaker 2>they take, you know, a hair follicle, a DNA, a

771
00:39:52.719 --> 00:39:57.320
<v Speaker 2>blood test, whatever they do, a mugshot, do they keep

772
00:39:57.360 --> 00:40:01.239
<v Speaker 2>all that when you're one hundred percent innocent? Are you

773
00:40:01.400 --> 00:40:04.840
<v Speaker 2>now on file? I guess you. My guess is yes.

774
00:40:04.880 --> 00:40:08.000
<v Speaker 2>But we'll find out. But no charges were even they

775
00:40:08.039 --> 00:40:11.480
<v Speaker 2>brought him in on suspicion of dui. But the fact

776
00:40:11.599 --> 00:40:15.440
<v Speaker 2>no charges were brought. I understand if chargers are brought

777
00:40:15.920 --> 00:40:19.559
<v Speaker 2>and you lose the case, that's still there. That's public

778
00:40:19.639 --> 00:40:23.199
<v Speaker 2>record in Colorado courts. So and so got arrested for

779
00:40:23.280 --> 00:40:27.599
<v Speaker 2>a DUI in two thousand and five, even though even

780
00:40:27.639 --> 00:40:31.760
<v Speaker 2>though he never was found guilty. That is in Colorado

781
00:40:31.840 --> 00:40:34.519
<v Speaker 2>courts forever. But in a case where the where no

782
00:40:34.800 --> 00:40:39.440
<v Speaker 2>charges were ever brought, would they keep the fingerpriis like

783
00:40:39.960 --> 00:40:42.360
<v Speaker 2>my daughter's getting ready to graduate from law school. And

784
00:40:42.400 --> 00:40:44.719
<v Speaker 2>notice how I like throwing that in because I'm very

785
00:40:44.800 --> 00:40:47.840
<v Speaker 2>proud of my twenty three year old daughter getting ready

786
00:40:47.840 --> 00:40:51.400
<v Speaker 2>to do was from law school. But listen, she had

787
00:40:51.440 --> 00:40:54.679
<v Speaker 2>to go back through when applying to the bar, and

788
00:40:54.800 --> 00:40:58.559
<v Speaker 2>literally list anytime she was arrested had nothing to do

789
00:40:58.639 --> 00:41:01.599
<v Speaker 2>with guilt, nothing to do with anything. And that doesn't

790
00:41:01.599 --> 00:41:03.960
<v Speaker 2>look good. I was pulled over for DUI when I

791
00:41:04.000 --> 00:41:07.480
<v Speaker 2>was sixteen. I mean, really, no matter what, that doesn't

792
00:41:07.519 --> 00:41:08.360
<v Speaker 2>look good.

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<v Speaker 7>So, according to Tom's best friend here Ai, it says,

794
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<v Speaker 7>in January first of twenty twenty two, Colorado lah mandated

795
00:41:15.960 --> 00:41:20.000
<v Speaker 7>that the sealed or the records would be sealed automatically

796
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<v Speaker 7>if no criminal charges were filed within one year of

797
00:41:23.599 --> 00:41:24.039
<v Speaker 7>the arrest.

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, so nothing filed, so it does go back to

799
00:41:27.360 --> 00:41:30.519
<v Speaker 2>filed and in this case, so that's good news, Mark,

800
00:41:30.599 --> 00:41:33.239
<v Speaker 2>that's really good news. It's not even gonna be in

801
00:41:33.320 --> 00:41:35.960
<v Speaker 2>Colorado courts because nothing was filed.

802
00:41:35.599 --> 00:41:38.199
<v Speaker 7>So it's a sealed record. But it does mention up

803
00:41:38.239 --> 00:41:41.719
<v Speaker 7>here that it would not show up on any background

804
00:41:41.760 --> 00:41:42.519
<v Speaker 7>check obviously.

805
00:41:42.679 --> 00:41:45.239
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So but once again with the bar, and this

806
00:41:45.280 --> 00:41:49.280
<v Speaker 2>will be another great question for Marco because he's an attorney.

807
00:41:49.280 --> 00:41:52.519
<v Speaker 2>It's like, I'm telling you my daughter was listing stuff.

808
00:41:52.719 --> 00:41:54.800
<v Speaker 2>I said, you might as well list when you snuck

809
00:41:54.840 --> 00:41:57.599
<v Speaker 2>your boyfriend in or when you snuck out of the house.

810
00:41:57.679 --> 00:42:00.159
<v Speaker 2>I mean, like, really, you might as well list if

811
00:42:00.199 --> 00:42:02.480
<v Speaker 2>you're going to list something that dumb and I don't

812
00:42:02.519 --> 00:42:05.559
<v Speaker 2>remember what it was. She's like, listen, you just don't understand.

813
00:42:05.599 --> 00:42:06.480
<v Speaker 2>I gotta list everything.

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<v Speaker 17>Can you imagine how many pages you would have had

815
00:42:08.679 --> 00:42:10.039
<v Speaker 17>to append to that application?

816
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<v Speaker 2>Let's take a break. Three oh three seven, one, three eight,

817
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<v Speaker 2>two five five. We do have lines, ope, and I'd

818
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<v Speaker 2>love to hear from you. I got two deputies sitting

819
00:42:20.079 --> 00:42:23.440
<v Speaker 2>right next to me, ready to think their teeth into stuff?

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<v Speaker 14>Ay three oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Three seven one three eight two five five three zero

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<v Speaker 2>three Martino, you've been ripped off for taking care of

835
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<v Speaker 2>you know. We're having a discussion here behind the scenes,

836
00:43:17.920 --> 00:43:22.239
<v Speaker 2>and it's very interesting to me. I come from this

837
00:43:22.320 --> 00:43:26.400
<v Speaker 2>on this call with this DUI. The kid blows zeros.

838
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<v Speaker 2>I'd be very upset as a father, and I don't understand.

839
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<v Speaker 2>We have Chopper, he's one of our deputies. He was

840
00:43:33.440 --> 00:43:36.599
<v Speaker 2>uh he was in Denver, Denver PD. He's telling me.

841
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<v Speaker 2>I asked him, I said, how many times have you

842
00:43:40.360 --> 00:43:44.280
<v Speaker 2>pulled over a sixteen year old and you bring them

843
00:43:44.280 --> 00:43:48.639
<v Speaker 2>down to the station and they blow zeros? He says thousands, thousands.

844
00:43:48.960 --> 00:43:54.719
<v Speaker 2>I would assume the entire Denver Police Department should all

845
00:43:54.760 --> 00:43:57.719
<v Speaker 2>be retrained at that point. If you literally have pulled

846
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<v Speaker 2>a thousand kids out of their car, he gave them

847
00:44:00.440 --> 00:44:02.840
<v Speaker 2>a roadside and I'm going off of what mark the

848
00:44:02.960 --> 00:44:06.880
<v Speaker 2>dad said, and then brought them down and they blow zeros.

849
00:44:06.880 --> 00:44:10.159
<v Speaker 2>Then you say I make a mistake a thousand times.

850
00:44:10.920 --> 00:44:14.840
<v Speaker 2>That seems pretty bad. That seems pretty bad, and I

851
00:44:14.920 --> 00:44:18.199
<v Speaker 2>wonder if that's true. I would love for a current

852
00:44:18.239 --> 00:44:21.039
<v Speaker 2>officer in Denver to call me up three oh three

853
00:44:21.119 --> 00:44:23.559
<v Speaker 2>seven one three eight two five five. You don't have

854
00:44:23.639 --> 00:44:25.800
<v Speaker 2>to say your name. I promise you know. We have

855
00:44:25.880 --> 00:44:28.719
<v Speaker 2>no tracking method, And I would love to know if

856
00:44:28.760 --> 00:44:31.400
<v Speaker 2>you know of these thousands of people that have been

857
00:44:31.440 --> 00:44:35.239
<v Speaker 2>pulled over at the age of sixteen that blow zeros

858
00:44:35.239 --> 00:44:38.400
<v Speaker 2>and wanted a roadside right there by the car, but

859
00:44:38.440 --> 00:44:40.599
<v Speaker 2>the cop refused to give it to them. Now, that

860
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<v Speaker 2>simply could be because of age, and I'm hoping Marco Bendinelli,

861
00:44:45.559 --> 00:44:47.840
<v Speaker 2>you know what, Henry, you're under thirty. What do you

862
00:44:47.880 --> 00:44:50.480
<v Speaker 2>think about this whole call, seriously, what do you think

863
00:44:50.519 --> 00:44:53.239
<v Speaker 2>about it? You know, Mark, I really.

864
00:44:53.000 --> 00:44:55.559
<v Speaker 7>Believe that the cops should be breathalyzing a lot of

865
00:44:55.599 --> 00:44:57.639
<v Speaker 7>these people that they're suspicious. You know, they need to

866
00:44:57.679 --> 00:45:00.960
<v Speaker 7>have it out there. Driving under the influence is wrong,

867
00:45:01.119 --> 00:45:03.599
<v Speaker 7>and I think that a lot of people get away

868
00:45:03.599 --> 00:45:04.519
<v Speaker 7>with it and they shouldn't.

869
00:45:04.639 --> 00:45:07.920
<v Speaker 2>But I really disagree with bringing them into the station.

870
00:45:08.119 --> 00:45:10.599
<v Speaker 7>That just seems so bizarre to me and like a

871
00:45:10.639 --> 00:45:13.840
<v Speaker 7>policy issue. They should have some sort of procedure just

872
00:45:13.960 --> 00:45:15.840
<v Speaker 7>to breathalyze them on scene.

873
00:45:15.880 --> 00:45:19.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I wonder why not unless if, once again, it's got.

874
00:45:18.760 --> 00:45:20.840
<v Speaker 7>To do with the aide as far as him being

875
00:45:20.920 --> 00:45:24.079
<v Speaker 7>like traumatized or having any emotional damages.

876
00:45:24.440 --> 00:45:26.079
<v Speaker 2>This kind of thing happened to me when I was

877
00:45:26.119 --> 00:45:27.000
<v Speaker 2>sixteen years old.

878
00:45:27.119 --> 00:45:29.039
<v Speaker 7>What happened, I just you know, I got stopped for

879
00:45:29.079 --> 00:45:32.079
<v Speaker 7>a DUI check. Obviously I wasn't drinking or anything, but

880
00:45:32.119 --> 00:45:33.920
<v Speaker 7>the cop just took a look at me. I talked

881
00:45:33.920 --> 00:45:36.000
<v Speaker 7>to the guy, I cooperated, and he told me to

882
00:45:36.039 --> 00:45:36.679
<v Speaker 7>have a good night.

883
00:45:36.840 --> 00:45:39.480
<v Speaker 2>Yeah. So was it at a roadside or to pull

884
00:45:39.559 --> 00:45:39.960
<v Speaker 2>you over?

885
00:45:40.199 --> 00:45:40.360
<v Speaker 11>Well?

886
00:45:40.360 --> 00:45:43.599
<v Speaker 7>I was driving through through Granby in winter Park that

887
00:45:43.679 --> 00:45:44.199
<v Speaker 7>kind of area.

888
00:45:44.239 --> 00:45:47.039
<v Speaker 2>Oh yeah, that little town before you go up and

889
00:45:47.079 --> 00:45:47.679
<v Speaker 2>you know where.

890
00:45:47.480 --> 00:45:50.760
<v Speaker 7>The killdozer was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that sound right there.

891
00:45:50.760 --> 00:45:52.599
<v Speaker 7>And you know he pulled me over. He said that

892
00:45:52.639 --> 00:45:55.199
<v Speaker 7>I kind of swerved over the lane. I apologize, told

893
00:45:55.280 --> 00:45:56.719
<v Speaker 7>him that I was driving back from Utah.

894
00:45:56.840 --> 00:45:58.960
<v Speaker 2>He was just checking. Yeah, he was just checking with me.

895
00:45:59.159 --> 00:46:01.000
<v Speaker 7>And you know, if you would have wanted to breathalyze me,

896
00:46:01.039 --> 00:46:03.960
<v Speaker 7>I would have consented to it right there and you know,

897
00:46:04.079 --> 00:46:04.840
<v Speaker 7>gone on my way.

898
00:46:05.360 --> 00:46:05.599
<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

899
00:46:05.639 --> 00:46:07.519
<v Speaker 4>But he didn't drag you into the police station.

900
00:46:07.719 --> 00:46:08.199
<v Speaker 2>He didn't.

901
00:46:08.960 --> 00:46:11.840
<v Speaker 4>Can't you imagine, Dmitri? I mean, what's your opinion.

902
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:15.639
<v Speaker 17>Well, you know, it's not an easy opinion to form

903
00:46:15.639 --> 00:46:18.039
<v Speaker 17>based on the limited amount of information that we've been given.

904
00:46:18.079 --> 00:46:20.320
<v Speaker 2>I would love to see pat one side of the story.

905
00:46:20.400 --> 00:46:22.920
<v Speaker 17>Yeah, but we can easily get the true side, or

906
00:46:22.960 --> 00:46:25.960
<v Speaker 17>the or the undisputable side of the story by looking

907
00:46:26.000 --> 00:46:29.920
<v Speaker 17>at the badgecam video, which is available for approximately twenty

908
00:46:29.920 --> 00:46:32.360
<v Speaker 17>five dollars. You're sure about that, Yeah, I bought. I

909
00:46:32.400 --> 00:46:35.639
<v Speaker 17>recently bought for three different events in Denver. I bought

910
00:46:35.639 --> 00:46:38.920
<v Speaker 17>three three badge cam records from Denver Police.

911
00:46:38.960 --> 00:46:42.079
<v Speaker 2>That you do that, I'll pay for easy. I'd love

912
00:46:42.119 --> 00:46:43.840
<v Speaker 2>to do that. Do I have to be Do we

913
00:46:43.920 --> 00:46:46.320
<v Speaker 2>have to have the call or do it because he's related?

914
00:46:46.360 --> 00:46:48.519
<v Speaker 17>No, it's public information, so anybody can do it.

915
00:46:48.519 --> 00:46:51.159
<v Speaker 4>Wait a minute, I can go pull dash cam.

916
00:46:51.360 --> 00:46:58.559
<v Speaker 17>Yes for roughly nobody has not dash cams but body camera. Yeah.

917
00:46:58.840 --> 00:47:01.480
<v Speaker 17>So yeah, you don't have to be part of that event.

918
00:47:01.719 --> 00:47:05.519
<v Speaker 17>Anybody open with twenty five dollars can do so. In Denver,

919
00:47:05.599 --> 00:47:08.000
<v Speaker 17>it's a very simple form. You a partner.

920
00:47:08.400 --> 00:47:11.480
<v Speaker 2>I'm sure they have an analogous system in Parker.

921
00:47:11.639 --> 00:47:11.760
<v Speaker 3>Right.

922
00:47:12.079 --> 00:47:15.159
<v Speaker 2>I love that? So Mark here can give me Mark?

923
00:47:15.199 --> 00:47:17.920
<v Speaker 2>Did you ask for the dash cam? By any way? Bodycam?

924
00:47:18.440 --> 00:47:21.480
<v Speaker 10>I have all I have all the records, I have

925
00:47:21.559 --> 00:47:25.039
<v Speaker 10>all the dash I have dash cam, and I have bodycam.

926
00:47:25.360 --> 00:47:25.559
<v Speaker 6>Sev.

927
00:47:26.400 --> 00:47:27.079
<v Speaker 11>It is muted.

928
00:47:27.400 --> 00:47:28.840
<v Speaker 10>You can't, you can't hear?

929
00:47:29.519 --> 00:47:32.400
<v Speaker 2>Well, what's it looking? What does it look like when

930
00:47:32.480 --> 00:47:34.239
<v Speaker 2>you look at it? Does it look like he could

931
00:47:34.280 --> 00:47:37.920
<v Speaker 2>be drunk? Be honest, No, I mean we already know

932
00:47:38.000 --> 00:47:40.840
<v Speaker 2>he wasn't. But what I'm saying is, why why do

933
00:47:40.920 --> 00:47:44.400
<v Speaker 2>you think TAKP brought him in? Just the bus balls? Honestly?

934
00:47:44.440 --> 00:47:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Why do you think so.

935
00:47:47.599 --> 00:47:47.679
<v Speaker 6>On?

936
00:47:47.840 --> 00:47:49.480
<v Speaker 10>An uneducated?

937
00:47:51.440 --> 00:47:52.480
<v Speaker 4>Just uneducated?

938
00:47:52.559 --> 00:47:52.920
<v Speaker 8>Who's that?

939
00:47:53.079 --> 00:47:55.760
<v Speaker 2>On? Who's online? Six? Hold on? Mark?

940
00:47:55.880 --> 00:47:56.679
<v Speaker 4>Who's online?

941
00:47:56.760 --> 00:47:57.039
<v Speaker 2>Six?

942
00:47:57.199 --> 00:47:57.360
<v Speaker 6>Well?

943
00:47:57.400 --> 00:47:59.920
<v Speaker 2>Then you retrain the guy. He is brand new, like

944
00:48:00.159 --> 00:48:02.360
<v Speaker 2>you said, so you have them retrained. We have a

945
00:48:02.480 --> 00:48:06.840
<v Speaker 2>retired officer online. Ten Actually, let's bring up shamee.

946
00:48:06.880 --> 00:48:09.079
<v Speaker 4>Hey Shane, what is have you been listening to this?

947
00:48:11.000 --> 00:48:12.000
<v Speaker 14>Yeah? Hi, Mark, I have?

948
00:48:12.480 --> 00:48:14.920
<v Speaker 2>So what is your opinion? First of all, I've got

949
00:48:14.960 --> 00:48:18.079
<v Speaker 2>someone that I know personally that says, when he was

950
00:48:18.119 --> 00:48:21.199
<v Speaker 2>a cop in Denver, this is like normal. If there's

951
00:48:21.239 --> 00:48:24.440
<v Speaker 2>a sixteen year old and he's got red eyes or

952
00:48:24.480 --> 00:48:28.280
<v Speaker 2>swerves or something, you bring him into the station for

953
00:48:28.360 --> 00:48:32.159
<v Speaker 2>a dui and they blow zeros all the time. I

954
00:48:32.360 --> 00:48:34.119
<v Speaker 2>just I can't even imagine that's real.

955
00:48:36.679 --> 00:48:39.360
<v Speaker 14>Well I don't know that it's just specifically limited to

956
00:48:39.400 --> 00:48:41.679
<v Speaker 14>sixteen year olds, but there are occasions when you do

957
00:48:41.800 --> 00:48:43.840
<v Speaker 14>bring people in and they do blow zeros because they

958
00:48:43.920 --> 00:48:45.079
<v Speaker 14>failed the roadside jazz.

959
00:48:46.199 --> 00:48:48.159
<v Speaker 2>And then what makes it? Why wouldn't you give a

960
00:48:48.239 --> 00:48:53.039
<v Speaker 2>sixteen year old a roadside breathalyzer? Do you have to

961
00:48:53.159 --> 00:48:55.920
<v Speaker 2>because of their age they're a minor? Bring them in

962
00:48:56.079 --> 00:49:00.199
<v Speaker 2>for some consent reason with their parents or why, and

963
00:49:00.280 --> 00:49:01.519
<v Speaker 2>they just do it right there.

964
00:49:03.360 --> 00:49:06.079
<v Speaker 14>Well, so there's two there's two things. Unless they've changed

965
00:49:06.079 --> 00:49:09.840
<v Speaker 14>the loft and wait, not ten years ago but I

966
00:49:09.840 --> 00:49:12.119
<v Speaker 14>don't think they have. So there's there's two things that

967
00:49:12.159 --> 00:49:15.559
<v Speaker 14>issue here. There's roadside maneuvers that you typically give people, right,

968
00:49:15.639 --> 00:49:18.960
<v Speaker 14>they call them SFST standard field sobriety as that's the

969
00:49:19.360 --> 00:49:21.559
<v Speaker 14>walk and turn, touch your nose, that type of stuff.

970
00:49:24.000 --> 00:49:27.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but don't they usually do that, then a breathalyzer

971
00:49:27.119 --> 00:49:29.840
<v Speaker 2>like both or you're saying if they fail that, they

972
00:49:29.880 --> 00:49:32.400
<v Speaker 2>generally don't go to the roadside breathalyzer.

973
00:49:34.719 --> 00:49:38.199
<v Speaker 14>Well, so this way they were right.

974
00:49:38.440 --> 00:49:38.599
<v Speaker 6>Man.

975
00:49:38.800 --> 00:49:42.280
<v Speaker 2>My only experience here is I watch cops. I love

976
00:49:42.360 --> 00:49:45.920
<v Speaker 2>that show Cops, and usually what I see is someone

977
00:49:46.079 --> 00:49:49.519
<v Speaker 2>fails touching their nose. I mean, it's evident they're drunk,

978
00:49:49.719 --> 00:49:52.039
<v Speaker 2>and then they're usually asked do you want to blow

979
00:49:52.079 --> 00:49:55.039
<v Speaker 2>into this? Sometimes you're not, so I mean, that's really

980
00:49:55.039 --> 00:49:56.239
<v Speaker 2>what I'm asking, Shane.

981
00:49:57.679 --> 00:50:01.199
<v Speaker 14>But it used to be in Colorado. Those roadside breathalyzers

982
00:50:01.280 --> 00:50:06.920
<v Speaker 14>the actual device we need. Some agencies don't even have them.

983
00:50:06.920 --> 00:50:10.320
<v Speaker 2>Some agencies don't even have them. Hold on, I got

984
00:50:10.360 --> 00:50:11.920
<v Speaker 2>a question for you the road.

985
00:50:12.079 --> 00:50:14.079
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, it could be much more worth it for you

986
00:50:14.119 --> 00:50:17.639
<v Speaker 7>guys just to get the breathalyzers and do it roadside,

987
00:50:17.800 --> 00:50:20.440
<v Speaker 7>rather than actually bringing them in and booking them.

988
00:50:20.280 --> 00:50:23.360
<v Speaker 2>Well, they're not, they're not admissible. So in other words,

989
00:50:23.440 --> 00:50:26.719
<v Speaker 2>if you fail that, I mean, they still have to

990
00:50:26.760 --> 00:50:29.519
<v Speaker 2>do one back at the station. Isn't that correct? Shane?

991
00:50:29.840 --> 00:50:30.159
<v Speaker 14>Right?

992
00:50:30.679 --> 00:50:35.119
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, they're just not calibrated right or often enough or accurate.

993
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:37.719
<v Speaker 17>Right right, But despite its evidentiary value, if you blow

994
00:50:37.880 --> 00:50:40.840
<v Speaker 17>zero road side, then at least that saves everybody the

995
00:50:40.840 --> 00:50:42.360
<v Speaker 17>time and effort of a ride downtown.

996
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:42.760
<v Speaker 6>Hey.

997
00:50:42.920 --> 00:50:45.840
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely, it's extra leg work, but that should eliminate a

998
00:50:45.880 --> 00:50:47.039
<v Speaker 7>little more process.

999
00:50:47.400 --> 00:50:49.039
<v Speaker 2>How long ago were you a.

1000
00:50:48.920 --> 00:50:53.679
<v Speaker 14>Cop twenty seventeen and then part.

1001
00:50:53.480 --> 00:50:56.519
<v Speaker 2>Time for Okay, no, no, no, I mean it's pretty recent.

1002
00:50:56.599 --> 00:50:59.800
<v Speaker 2>Let me ask you this, when if you pulled someone over,

1003
00:51:00.119 --> 00:51:03.480
<v Speaker 2>and let's say you've got proper probable costs, you pull

1004
00:51:03.480 --> 00:51:08.000
<v Speaker 2>them over because they're speeding or license plate registration, whatever

1005
00:51:08.119 --> 00:51:12.559
<v Speaker 2>probable cause is real probable cause though, and sure you

1006
00:51:12.639 --> 00:51:15.719
<v Speaker 2>suspect them of drinking, but you ask them and they say, no,

1007
00:51:15.800 --> 00:51:18.320
<v Speaker 2>I haven't had anything to drink, and they're not fall

1008
00:51:18.400 --> 00:51:21.760
<v Speaker 2>down drunk. You can imagine that. I mean, typically, where

1009
00:51:21.760 --> 00:51:22.800
<v Speaker 2>do you go from there?

1010
00:51:25.079 --> 00:51:27.360
<v Speaker 14>Well, so then you look for other indicators, right like

1011
00:51:27.480 --> 00:51:30.639
<v Speaker 14>were they swerving? Did they you know when they stopped?

1012
00:51:30.679 --> 00:51:33.440
<v Speaker 14>Did they stop super fast or did they take forever?

1013
00:51:33.599 --> 00:51:36.559
<v Speaker 14>Were they driving like twenty miles an hour on a freeway?

1014
00:51:37.559 --> 00:51:39.559
<v Speaker 14>You know, are their eyes bloodshot and water? Is their

1015
00:51:39.599 --> 00:51:40.320
<v Speaker 14>speech slurred?

1016
00:51:40.440 --> 00:51:43.320
<v Speaker 11>You know, things like that. You look for other indicators.

1017
00:51:42.840 --> 00:51:45.440
<v Speaker 2>Being on the other side. Since you're not doing that anymore,

1018
00:51:45.519 --> 00:51:47.079
<v Speaker 2>let me ask you this, if you were on the

1019
00:51:47.119 --> 00:51:52.039
<v Speaker 2>other side and you got pulled over and the officer

1020
00:51:52.159 --> 00:51:55.519
<v Speaker 2>asked you, have you been drinking tonight? My understanding from

1021
00:51:55.559 --> 00:51:59.760
<v Speaker 2>our attorneys are criminal defense attorneys that we've been talking about.

1022
00:51:59.800 --> 00:52:02.880
<v Speaker 2>For whatever Joe Lazarrol's say, you never acknowledge it. You

1023
00:52:02.920 --> 00:52:06.000
<v Speaker 2>either don't answer the question or say it's none of

1024
00:52:06.039 --> 00:52:08.880
<v Speaker 2>your business or something. I mean, would you agree that's

1025
00:52:08.960 --> 00:52:12.119
<v Speaker 2>probably the best tactic because I always I won't say

1026
00:52:12.159 --> 00:52:15.199
<v Speaker 2>I argue with Joe. He's a criminal defense attorney. He's

1027
00:52:15.239 --> 00:52:16.960
<v Speaker 2>the one that's got to deal with the evidence and

1028
00:52:17.000 --> 00:52:22.119
<v Speaker 2>everything afterwards. But I've always questioned them like, doesn't that

1029
00:52:22.199 --> 00:52:24.440
<v Speaker 2>make you appear more guilty to the cop?

1030
00:52:24.719 --> 00:52:28.280
<v Speaker 4>I mean, if someone's telling you that as a cop, No,

1031
00:52:28.360 --> 00:52:28.880
<v Speaker 4>I'm not going.

1032
00:52:28.800 --> 00:52:30.679
<v Speaker 2>To answer your question. I mean, where do you go

1033
00:52:30.760 --> 00:52:31.199
<v Speaker 2>from there?

1034
00:52:31.239 --> 00:52:31.440
<v Speaker 13>Then?

1035
00:52:31.519 --> 00:52:37.280
<v Speaker 14>Shane, Well, it's definitely not the normal conversation that a

1036
00:52:37.360 --> 00:52:39.679
<v Speaker 14>person has with somebody else. So for them to say no,

1037
00:52:40.239 --> 00:52:42.280
<v Speaker 14>you know, as a police officer, you understand that they're

1038
00:52:42.280 --> 00:52:44.079
<v Speaker 14>not required to give you any answer and they're not

1039
00:52:44.119 --> 00:52:45.920
<v Speaker 14>required to talk to you. So if you go back

1040
00:52:45.960 --> 00:52:47.840
<v Speaker 14>to the same thing I was talking about, if you

1041
00:52:47.840 --> 00:52:50.360
<v Speaker 14>don't have any of those other indicators, then you cut

1042
00:52:50.360 --> 00:52:52.199
<v Speaker 14>them a ticket for whatever you pull them over for

1043
00:52:52.280 --> 00:52:53.199
<v Speaker 14>and set them on their way.

1044
00:52:53.280 --> 00:52:56.880
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, okay, okay, that's basically exactly what Joe said. Hey, Shane,

1045
00:52:56.880 --> 00:53:00.199
<v Speaker 2>I really do appreciate you calling in. I can't wait

1046
00:53:00.199 --> 00:53:03.440
<v Speaker 2>to see what the attorney says about it. But in general,

1047
00:53:03.519 --> 00:53:06.960
<v Speaker 2>do you think when you were doing this, could you

1048
00:53:07.199 --> 00:53:09.880
<v Speaker 2>how many times did you bring someone in that blue

1049
00:53:10.000 --> 00:53:13.199
<v Speaker 2>Zero's a kid too. I'm not talking like you know,

1050
00:53:13.679 --> 00:53:17.840
<v Speaker 2>a twenty thirty. I'm not talking someone that's been driving

1051
00:53:17.880 --> 00:53:20.519
<v Speaker 2>a long time. I'm talking someone that just got their

1052
00:53:20.599 --> 00:53:24.639
<v Speaker 2>license sixteen years old. Apparently he's got some bloodshot eyes.

1053
00:53:24.880 --> 00:53:26.599
<v Speaker 2>I mean, has that ever happened to you?

1054
00:53:28.960 --> 00:53:31.440
<v Speaker 14>Not I'm a kid, but one time in my career

1055
00:53:31.639 --> 00:53:34.760
<v Speaker 14>and as an adult, and what happened.

1056
00:53:34.800 --> 00:53:35.280
<v Speaker 4>What do you do?

1057
00:53:35.320 --> 00:53:37.440
<v Speaker 2>You just cut them loose, apologize or what?

1058
00:53:37.559 --> 00:53:37.800
<v Speaker 6>Man?

1059
00:53:39.760 --> 00:53:42.079
<v Speaker 14>Well, so, in this particular case, the guy was involved

1060
00:53:42.079 --> 00:53:44.320
<v Speaker 14>in a traffic accident, I'll call to it, and it

1061
00:53:44.400 --> 00:53:48.440
<v Speaker 14>had already happened, and I still processed him and charged him,

1062
00:53:48.480 --> 00:53:51.760
<v Speaker 14>and then later on in court because we couldn't establish

1063
00:53:51.800 --> 00:53:54.599
<v Speaker 14>any of the roadside maneuversus that showed any indications or

1064
00:53:54.639 --> 00:53:56.320
<v Speaker 14>anything like that other than what he had told me

1065
00:53:56.400 --> 00:53:58.159
<v Speaker 14>then that the case was dismissed.

1066
00:53:58.239 --> 00:54:00.440
<v Speaker 2>Actually, hey, what department did you work for?

1067
00:54:00.519 --> 00:54:01.000
<v Speaker 4>Do you mind that?

1068
00:54:01.199 --> 00:54:01.440
<v Speaker 2>Saying?

1069
00:54:03.519 --> 00:54:05.559
<v Speaker 11>Sure, Weld County Riff's Office.

1070
00:54:06.079 --> 00:54:08.320
<v Speaker 2>Let me let I want to ask you one more thing.

1071
00:54:08.840 --> 00:54:11.960
<v Speaker 2>Is there is there a lot of profiling? I mean,

1072
00:54:12.039 --> 00:54:14.880
<v Speaker 2>is that like literally you were kind of in the

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<v Speaker 2>boys club or the cops club down there? I mean,

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00:54:17.480 --> 00:54:20.639
<v Speaker 2>is there good old boys in Weld County or other

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00:54:20.880 --> 00:54:24.039
<v Speaker 2>agencies that you know of? There's always bad apples. I

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00:54:24.039 --> 00:54:27.679
<v Speaker 2>don't care where you're from, but I'm talking systemic. Would

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<v Speaker 2>you say someone black in Weld County is more likely

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00:54:31.920 --> 00:54:36.199
<v Speaker 2>to get pulled over? Or someone Mexican or somebody I

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00:54:36.239 --> 00:54:40.639
<v Speaker 2>don't know, I don't know anything, but say a white person.

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00:54:40.760 --> 00:54:43.760
<v Speaker 2>Is that like a real deal? Is it still like that?

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<v Speaker 14>I mean, I guess it could be in some jurisdictions,

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00:54:48.559 --> 00:54:50.199
<v Speaker 14>But you got to think about it like this mark.

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00:54:50.239 --> 00:54:52.559
<v Speaker 14>If you're pulling somebody over for speeding or you know

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00:54:52.679 --> 00:54:55.000
<v Speaker 14>they've done something in front of you or whatever, nine

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00:54:55.000 --> 00:54:57.039
<v Speaker 14>times out of ten you don't know what the person

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00:54:57.039 --> 00:54:58.880
<v Speaker 14>in the car looks like. You've seen the car do

1087
00:54:59.000 --> 00:55:00.960
<v Speaker 14>something and you're pulling them up. You don't know who's

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00:55:01.000 --> 00:55:02.760
<v Speaker 14>in the car until you get up to it after

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<v Speaker 14>they stopped.

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<v Speaker 2>In other words, it'd be pretty damn hard to profile.

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00:55:05.840 --> 00:55:07.559
<v Speaker 2>You'd probably have to have binoculars.

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<v Speaker 7>I mean, you can probably look at the car right, Like,

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<v Speaker 7>if the car is missing its bumper and missing a

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00:55:12.320 --> 00:55:14.800
<v Speaker 7>plate and the windows are tinted out and it's flying

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00:55:14.840 --> 00:55:17.400
<v Speaker 7>down the highway, that's probably setting some red flags off.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but that's not racial profiling. That's like that car

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00:55:21.280 --> 00:55:24.960
<v Speaker 2>is a piece of drunk but you're profiling the vehicle. Yeah, well, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I would agree, Shane. Is that okay to do?

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<v Speaker 8>Pro?

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00:55:27.760 --> 00:55:30.360
<v Speaker 2>Do you profile vehicles? I would if I was a cop.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, those windows being that tinted or probably

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<v Speaker 2>not legal.

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<v Speaker 14>It's not profiling the car. You're just looking for equipment

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00:55:39.920 --> 00:55:43.119
<v Speaker 14>violations or traffic violations. That's that's what you're paid to do, right,

1105
00:55:43.199 --> 00:55:45.360
<v Speaker 14>is look for anything that's the violation of the lot,

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00:55:45.400 --> 00:55:47.599
<v Speaker 14>whether it's the tent, or whether it's a license plate

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00:55:47.639 --> 00:55:50.079
<v Speaker 14>that's not on the car or the expired plate, or

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00:55:50.119 --> 00:55:53.760
<v Speaker 14>if the driver's beating. You know, it's not profiling per se.

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00:55:53.800 --> 00:55:56.920
<v Speaker 14>It's just you're looking for violations of the law. Okay,

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<v Speaker 14>the equipment.

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<v Speaker 2>I promise you. Last question, is this true? Because we

1112
00:56:02.360 --> 00:56:06.320
<v Speaker 2>hear this all the time. The town is running into

1113
00:56:06.519 --> 00:56:10.400
<v Speaker 2>some money problems, and the captain really comes to you

1114
00:56:10.480 --> 00:56:13.199
<v Speaker 2>and say we're gonna step up tickets. I'm not saying

1115
00:56:13.480 --> 00:56:16.400
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna step up enforcement. I'm not saying you're gonna

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00:56:16.400 --> 00:56:19.440
<v Speaker 2>make up stuff. But now it's time to get everybody

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00:56:19.480 --> 00:56:22.320
<v Speaker 2>out there and get some revenue coming in. Is that

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00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:23.719
<v Speaker 2>a real thing where you worked?

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00:56:26.320 --> 00:56:29.559
<v Speaker 14>No, But then again, Will County has never had budget problems.

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, Hey Shane, I appreciate it. Man, great call.

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00:56:33.079 --> 00:56:36.000
<v Speaker 2>Three O three seven one three eight two five five.

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00:56:36.079 --> 00:56:40.400
<v Speaker 2>Jeff has an issue with the Colorado Springs PD. Yikes.

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<v Speaker 2>And then Janey will talk to you as well. One

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00:56:43.039 --> 00:56:45.880
<v Speaker 2>line open, three oh three Martino and Marks. Soon as

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00:56:45.920 --> 00:56:48.880
<v Speaker 2>we hear from Bend and Ellie, I promise we'll get

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00:56:48.920 --> 00:56:49.239
<v Speaker 2>them on.

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00:56:54.800 --> 00:56:58.079
<v Speaker 3>Go with a sure thing. Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing

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00:56:58.199 --> 00:57:02.320
<v Speaker 3>dot com. You don't pay a cent to You're contenth

1129
00:57:04.199 --> 00:57:07.400
<v Speaker 3>time for an insurance check up free, no obligation. Comparison

1130
00:57:07.519 --> 00:57:11.079
<v Speaker 3>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

1131
00:57:11.079 --> 00:57:13.800
<v Speaker 3>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

1132
00:57:13.920 --> 00:57:16.920
<v Speaker 3>seven one help. You'll think you're his only customer when

1133
00:57:16.960 --> 00:57:19.440
<v Speaker 3>you choose Frank durand the real estate Man dot com

1134
00:57:19.480 --> 00:57:21.800
<v Speaker 3>to list your home with Remax Alliance.

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00:57:22.039 --> 00:57:24.360
<v Speaker 4>Three oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 14>All right, three oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Three seven onety three A two five five. Hey Kelly,

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00:57:30.840 --> 00:57:33.400
<v Speaker 2>where are we coming on? Marco? I want to kind

1139
00:57:33.400 --> 00:57:35.360
<v Speaker 2>of move on to other stuff, but I really want

1140
00:57:35.400 --> 00:57:38.400
<v Speaker 2>to get Mark. I am able to talk to an attorney.

1141
00:57:38.519 --> 00:57:41.920
<v Speaker 2>I understand. Uh tell Marco I'm going to come after

1142
00:57:42.039 --> 00:57:44.199
<v Speaker 2>him personally if he doesn't get his butt on here.

1143
00:57:45.079 --> 00:57:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Three oh three seven one three eight two five five

1144
00:57:48.280 --> 00:57:51.039
<v Speaker 2>my best? All right, thank you, Hey, Jeff, what's going on?

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00:57:51.119 --> 00:57:51.440
<v Speaker 4>Man?

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00:57:51.679 --> 00:57:54.679
<v Speaker 2>I can't believe we're having another issue with a police department.

1147
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<v Speaker 14>Go ahead, sir, Yes, hey, thanks for taking my call.

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00:58:00.079 --> 00:58:03.639
<v Speaker 14>Have a have a question related to I run a

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00:58:03.679 --> 00:58:10.400
<v Speaker 14>small business in Colorado Springs, and I'll uh I'll uh,

1150
00:58:10.480 --> 00:58:13.599
<v Speaker 14>I won't mention won't once, won't mention the name because

1151
00:58:13.800 --> 00:58:17.679
<v Speaker 14>I'm I'm pursuing a couple avenues here. But what had

1152
00:58:17.719 --> 00:58:18.280
<v Speaker 14>happened is.

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<v Speaker 2>Jeff, Jeff, let me ask you this though. Is it

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00:58:22.039 --> 00:58:25.599
<v Speaker 2>like a storefront or like uh or is it like

1155
00:58:25.639 --> 00:58:27.840
<v Speaker 2>you're a landscape or a service and you live at

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00:58:27.880 --> 00:58:31.039
<v Speaker 2>your house or is there actually a storefront or an office?

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00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:36.840
<v Speaker 14>Yeah, we we have a storefront in the vehicle services industry,

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00:58:37.039 --> 00:58:44.000
<v Speaker 14>got it? And I've reported everything that we have. We

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00:58:44.079 --> 00:58:48.360
<v Speaker 14>have a very good video surveillance system on site, and

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00:58:48.639 --> 00:58:54.199
<v Speaker 14>I've reported everything, basically, everything that has happened on site.

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00:58:55.000 --> 00:58:58.480
<v Speaker 14>And I when when something happens, Hey, Jeff.

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<v Speaker 2>Give me an idea though. Are we talking like vandalism

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00:59:01.119 --> 00:59:04.280
<v Speaker 2>on customers cars? What are we talking about?

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00:59:05.360 --> 00:59:10.639
<v Speaker 14>But vandalism people try to typically they try to break

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00:59:10.679 --> 00:59:12.840
<v Speaker 14>into coinboxes on site.

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00:59:13.119 --> 00:59:15.800
<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, interesting exactly?

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00:59:16.880 --> 00:59:17.199
<v Speaker 11>Yeah?

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<v Speaker 2>And and are they outside or inside the business.

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<v Speaker 14>They are facing the customer coinboxes that face the customer

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00:59:28.000 --> 00:59:30.920
<v Speaker 14>for a car wash, basically is what it is?

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<v Speaker 2>Okay, I got you. So they're literally showing up with

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00:59:33.519 --> 00:59:35.880
<v Speaker 2>a crowbar or a screwdriver and stealing.

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<v Speaker 14>That's exactly right. And I have reported. I mean literally

1174
00:59:41.800 --> 00:59:44.360
<v Speaker 14>I have. I have thumb drives in a backup video.

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00:59:44.920 --> 00:59:47.119
<v Speaker 14>I've reported over one hundred incidents.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh my god, a hundred. So let me ask you this,

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<v Speaker 2>like when you report a particular one has have officers

1178
00:59:54.360 --> 00:59:57.039
<v Speaker 2>actually came out and looked at the video?

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01:00:00.119 --> 01:00:05.400
<v Speaker 14>I actually back up all the video. And the one

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01:00:05.440 --> 01:00:11.679
<v Speaker 14>of the problems is that property crimes are at the

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01:00:11.840 --> 01:00:16.559
<v Speaker 14>low the lowest of the lowest end of the spectrum

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<v Speaker 14>for getting officers to show up.

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<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but we're talking something that's crazy. We're talking one hundred,

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01:00:25.079 --> 01:00:29.719
<v Speaker 2>one hundred different calls. I mean, that's absolutely nuts in

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01:00:29.760 --> 01:00:31.760
<v Speaker 2>any of the videos. In other words, do you know

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<v Speaker 2>who's doing it?

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01:00:34.239 --> 01:00:38.880
<v Speaker 14>Well, I have very good video surveillance, and I'm just

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<v Speaker 14>going to use a specific example. Yeah, September of twenty

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<v Speaker 14>twenty four, at seven fifty am, I have video surveillance

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<v Speaker 14>of a black escalade with three male individuals and their female.

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<v Speaker 4>Counter.

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<v Speaker 2>And what do they do? They pull up, They pull up,

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01:01:05.360 --> 01:01:08.199
<v Speaker 2>get out. You have like a picture of the license plate?

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<v Speaker 14>I do, I do have a do have a picture

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01:01:12.480 --> 01:01:18.239
<v Speaker 14>of the plate, and they take out their takeout crow bars.

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<v Speaker 14>Three of them are working on the coinbox I happen

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<v Speaker 14>to I have remote video surveillance, so at seven fifty am,

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<v Speaker 14>I report this on a nine to one one call

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<v Speaker 14>to Calado Springs Police Department.

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<v Speaker 2>Wait wait, because it's going down right then and there exactly.

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<v Speaker 2>Hold on, Hold on, man, this is Kelly. I want

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01:01:39.679 --> 01:01:42.360
<v Speaker 2>to copy of that video from him if he's telling

1204
01:01:42.400 --> 01:01:46.360
<v Speaker 2>me he's watching it live as these three hoodlums or

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01:01:46.400 --> 01:01:51.119
<v Speaker 2>four hoodlums are basically breaking into his cash boxes and

1206
01:01:51.320 --> 01:01:55.800
<v Speaker 2>they don't respond at all while it's going on. That's insane.

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01:01:55.880 --> 01:01:58.519
<v Speaker 2>We need to talk to somebody down there. Let's get

1208
01:01:58.519 --> 01:01:59.599
<v Speaker 2>this video though.

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<v Speaker 3>Go with a sure thing Denver's best rufer Excel Roofing

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01:02:08.000 --> 01:02:08.599
<v Speaker 3>dot com.

1211
01:02:08.639 --> 01:02:10.639
<v Speaker 8>You don't pay a cent until you're content.

1212
01:02:14.000 --> 01:02:17.199
<v Speaker 3>Time for an insurance check up free no obligation comparison

1213
01:02:17.320 --> 01:02:20.880
<v Speaker 3>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

1214
01:02:20.920 --> 01:02:23.639
<v Speaker 3>of insurance companies find out now three oh three seven

1215
01:02:23.679 --> 01:02:26.000
<v Speaker 3>to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

1216
01:02:26.079 --> 01:02:28.519
<v Speaker 3>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

1217
01:02:28.599 --> 01:02:32.000
<v Speaker 3>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 3>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, three oh three seven one three eight two

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<v Speaker 2>five five one line open. By the way, this hour

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<v Speaker 2>brought to you by Frank Duran, the real estate man man.

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01:02:47.159 --> 01:02:49.280
<v Speaker 2>Do I like Frank Duran. Here's the bottom line. You

1223
01:02:49.320 --> 01:02:51.920
<v Speaker 2>want to sell your house quicker and for more money,

1224
01:02:52.199 --> 01:02:54.800
<v Speaker 2>you go to Frank Duran homes dot com. The other

1225
01:02:54.840 --> 01:02:57.360
<v Speaker 2>thing I want to warn everybody with right now, So

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01:02:57.480 --> 01:03:00.440
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to take Frank as a great example of

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01:03:00.480 --> 01:03:03.960
<v Speaker 2>what a good realtor does. If you want to argue

1228
01:03:04.039 --> 01:03:07.760
<v Speaker 2>or fight your property valuation, you guys, realize.

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<v Speaker 4>You only have basically to the end of the month May.

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01:03:10.599 --> 01:03:13.360
<v Speaker 2>So if you got that notice from Douglas County or

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01:03:13.400 --> 01:03:17.760
<v Speaker 2>wherever you live that your property valuation is whatever, this

1232
01:03:17.800 --> 01:03:20.840
<v Speaker 2>is an odd year, so you will get them. I

1233
01:03:21.079 --> 01:03:23.960
<v Speaker 2>just got mine, and Frank is going to do a free,

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01:03:24.480 --> 01:03:28.199
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent free analysis on my home and for

1235
01:03:28.280 --> 01:03:30.880
<v Speaker 2>the first time ever, I'm hoping it comes in less.

1236
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<v Speaker 2>Actually for the second time ever. He did it for

1237
01:03:33.239 --> 01:03:35.519
<v Speaker 2>me a couple of years ago and saved me quite

1238
01:03:35.519 --> 01:03:38.000
<v Speaker 2>a bit on taxes. If you call Frank up you

1239
01:03:38.000 --> 01:03:41.280
<v Speaker 2>can get that free valuation. Make sure your city or

1240
01:03:41.280 --> 01:03:46.280
<v Speaker 2>your county is not screwing you over on valuation for taxes.

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<v Speaker 2>You only have till very beginning of June. If I recall,

1242
01:03:49.920 --> 01:03:52.159
<v Speaker 2>I don't have the data up, but basically through May

1243
01:03:52.599 --> 01:03:54.880
<v Speaker 2>and Frank will do that. He'll do that one hundred

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01:03:54.880 --> 01:03:57.079
<v Speaker 2>percent for free. And if you just want to know

1245
01:03:57.119 --> 01:04:00.400
<v Speaker 2>how much your house is worth, it's a great free tool.

1246
01:04:00.719 --> 01:04:02.400
<v Speaker 2>You can't beat it. Plus you're going to talk to

1247
01:04:02.719 --> 01:04:05.159
<v Speaker 2>the nicest guy in the world. And the other thing

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01:04:05.239 --> 01:04:08.719
<v Speaker 2>Frank does, listen to this. He sells more homes for

1249
01:04:08.840 --> 01:04:12.760
<v Speaker 2>more money in one month than all the other realators.

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01:04:12.800 --> 01:04:15.639
<v Speaker 2>I can't say all of them, but most other realtors

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01:04:15.679 --> 01:04:20.920
<v Speaker 2>in Colorado sell in over a year more money and quicker.

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01:04:21.360 --> 01:04:25.599
<v Speaker 2>Frank duranhomes dot com. In fact, tell Kelly at some point,

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01:04:25.800 --> 01:04:27.760
<v Speaker 2>I want to get Frank on to talk about that

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01:04:27.880 --> 01:04:31.960
<v Speaker 2>evaluation for people in the same boat I am. Douglas

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01:04:31.960 --> 01:04:35.880
<v Speaker 2>County told me my house magically, my house magically is

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01:04:35.880 --> 01:04:38.599
<v Speaker 2>worth three hundred thousand dollars more than it was two

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01:04:38.679 --> 01:04:41.519
<v Speaker 2>years ago. So I want to understand where this magic

1258
01:04:41.599 --> 01:04:43.800
<v Speaker 2>comes from, because when I go to sell it, I

1259
01:04:43.840 --> 01:04:47.239
<v Speaker 2>hope that's right. But you know, how come when the

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01:04:47.280 --> 01:04:51.239
<v Speaker 2>evaluation goes down, Douglas County isn't sending me out of notice.

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<v Speaker 2>So I really want to talk about that. Hey, Jeff,

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01:04:54.000 --> 01:04:54.960
<v Speaker 2>let's get back to you.

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<v Speaker 4>Man.

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<v Speaker 2>You own a business. I'm just going to say it.

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<v Speaker 2>It's like a car wash. And you have video of

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01:05:01.159 --> 01:05:03.719
<v Speaker 2>this was an excursion. What kind of vehicle is a

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01:05:03.760 --> 01:05:06.039
<v Speaker 2>big one escalator?

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<v Speaker 14>This was a black escalade yet like a four door,

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01:05:10.480 --> 01:05:11.800
<v Speaker 14>fatally new escalator.

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01:05:11.840 --> 01:05:16.079
<v Speaker 2>And it pulls up and while your alarm on your

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01:05:16.119 --> 01:05:19.199
<v Speaker 2>camera goes off motion detector whatever you got r low,

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<v Speaker 2>I don't care what it is. You get on your

1273
01:05:21.400 --> 01:05:24.280
<v Speaker 2>phone or get on your computer, and you're watching this

1274
01:05:24.360 --> 01:05:28.480
<v Speaker 2>happen in Colorado Springs. You're watching three people or four

1275
01:05:28.519 --> 01:05:32.159
<v Speaker 2>people break into all your boxes to steal the money

1276
01:05:32.159 --> 01:05:35.039
<v Speaker 2>that's in there. And you call up nine to one

1277
01:05:35.119 --> 01:05:38.679
<v Speaker 2>one and tell them at this address, at this business.

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01:05:38.719 --> 01:05:41.920
<v Speaker 2>They're there right now stealing and what happened?

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<v Speaker 14>Correct? They were there for forty minutes. The officers didn't

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01:05:47.960 --> 01:05:50.960
<v Speaker 14>show up until two fifteen pos.

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01:05:51.079 --> 01:05:55.360
<v Speaker 2>This is ridiculous, This is so absurd. Here's what I

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01:05:55.400 --> 01:05:59.039
<v Speaker 2>want to do. Okay, here's what I want to do.

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01:05:59.159 --> 01:06:03.360
<v Speaker 2>And you've got this video right yeah, and this is

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01:06:03.440 --> 01:06:04.840
<v Speaker 2>eight or nine in the morning.

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01:06:06.920 --> 01:06:08.880
<v Speaker 14>It was seven fifty am.

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01:06:09.000 --> 01:06:11.559
<v Speaker 2>So we're not even talking like a Friday night when

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01:06:11.599 --> 01:06:14.480
<v Speaker 2>there's other stuff going on. They can't even say well,

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01:06:14.519 --> 01:06:17.519
<v Speaker 2>I guess they can say whatever, But go ahead, Jeff,

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01:06:17.559 --> 01:06:20.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, keep cutting you off. My head's going to explode.

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01:06:20.519 --> 01:06:23.400
<v Speaker 2>If I were you, i'd go crazy.

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01:06:23.800 --> 01:06:27.800
<v Speaker 14>Oh that's exactly right. And I lost my temper when

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01:06:27.800 --> 01:06:30.719
<v Speaker 14>they showed up and I gave him. I gave him

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01:06:30.719 --> 01:06:31.400
<v Speaker 14>the riot Act.

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01:06:31.480 --> 01:06:32.320
<v Speaker 2>Given the business.

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01:06:32.320 --> 01:06:36.679
<v Speaker 14>It goes a little bit further later that I spent

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01:06:37.360 --> 01:06:43.320
<v Speaker 14>approximately five to six hours trying to straighten out a

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01:06:43.400 --> 01:06:49.519
<v Speaker 14>stainless steel door on my coin box. Approximately three point

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<v Speaker 14>fifteen pm. There's an individual that I'm going to call

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01:06:55.079 --> 01:06:57.440
<v Speaker 14>him a transient because that's how we act.

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01:06:57.679 --> 01:06:58.599
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, homeless whatever.

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01:06:58.800 --> 01:06:59.519
<v Speaker 4>She shows up.

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01:07:01.079 --> 01:07:05.480
<v Speaker 14>He shows up, and I've talked to him four or

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01:07:05.559 --> 01:07:07.519
<v Speaker 14>five times being on the lot.

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01:07:07.719 --> 01:07:10.400
<v Speaker 2>He shows up when you're there or later.

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01:07:10.760 --> 01:07:15.199
<v Speaker 14>Exactly now, he shows up while I'm there, he's getting ready.

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01:07:16.480 --> 01:07:20.719
<v Speaker 14>So I've told him four or five times prior to

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01:07:20.760 --> 01:07:23.400
<v Speaker 14>this in the previous six months, if you're not a

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01:07:23.400 --> 01:07:25.719
<v Speaker 14>customer here, you need to get off the lot.

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01:07:25.840 --> 01:07:27.719
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you don't want him there, Okay, So now what?

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01:07:28.760 --> 01:07:33.239
<v Speaker 14>And so he tells me call CSPD, see if they

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01:07:33.280 --> 01:07:37.880
<v Speaker 14>show up, and what Colorado Springs Police Department has told me,

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01:07:38.119 --> 01:07:41.480
<v Speaker 14>is I need a clear picture of his face. I

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01:07:41.519 --> 01:07:43.440
<v Speaker 14>need a clear picture of their vehicle.

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01:07:43.679 --> 01:07:45.039
<v Speaker 2>Did you get a picture of them.

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01:07:46.320 --> 01:07:48.440
<v Speaker 14>I've got a picture of them. While I'm taking a

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01:07:48.480 --> 01:07:52.400
<v Speaker 14>picture of them, he hits my hand, he hits my phone.

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01:07:52.519 --> 01:07:55.599
<v Speaker 14>My phone goes ten feet in the air, drops to

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01:07:55.639 --> 01:08:02.599
<v Speaker 14>the ground. I pick up my phone. I level them,

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01:08:02.639 --> 01:08:03.440
<v Speaker 14>took the ground.

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01:08:04.559 --> 01:08:08.079
<v Speaker 2>I leave. Wait a minute, and wait, wait, I don't

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01:08:08.119 --> 01:08:11.599
<v Speaker 2>want to glance over what you just said. You leveled

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01:08:11.639 --> 01:08:16.079
<v Speaker 2>him to the ground. What exactly did you do? Hold on,

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01:08:16.159 --> 01:08:18.560
<v Speaker 2>Hold on, Jeff, we're coming up. I'm dying to hear

1324
01:08:18.600 --> 01:08:20.640
<v Speaker 2>the rest of this story. But we've only got about

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01:08:20.720 --> 01:08:23.920
<v Speaker 2>forty seconds, and Janey, I'm gonna take your comment real

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01:08:24.000 --> 01:08:27.399
<v Speaker 2>quick on checkpoints, Jeff, I promise I want to hear it.

1327
01:08:27.520 --> 01:08:30.279
<v Speaker 2>Not only that, I'm going to probably reach out on

1328
01:08:30.359 --> 01:08:34.479
<v Speaker 2>the first problem. You have to KRD News down in

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01:08:34.520 --> 01:08:37.119
<v Speaker 2>the Springs to see if we can't get a news story.

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01:08:37.239 --> 01:08:40.399
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Janey, okay, real quick.

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01:08:40.439 --> 01:08:40.920
<v Speaker 4>I'm dirty.

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01:08:41.960 --> 01:08:44.920
<v Speaker 14>I'd had a half a bear three hours before I

1333
01:08:45.039 --> 01:08:45.600
<v Speaker 14>drove through a.

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<v Speaker 2>Check All right, Hold on, Janny, I'm sorry, I don't

1335
01:08:48.800 --> 01:08:51.000
<v Speaker 2>want to hear that in twenty seconds. I want to

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01:08:51.039 --> 01:08:53.760
<v Speaker 2>hear your story, I really do, and we're going to

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01:08:53.800 --> 01:08:57.000
<v Speaker 2>have a criminal defense attorney on real quick. Jeff, I

1338
01:08:57.039 --> 01:08:59.640
<v Speaker 2>hope you didn't get arrested. I swear to God. I

1339
01:08:59.640 --> 01:09:02.840
<v Speaker 2>hope we're gonna find out back and a lot more

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01:09:03.760 --> 01:09:04.520
<v Speaker 2>right after this.

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<v Speaker 2>So you don't have.

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01:10:02.479 --> 01:10:04.920
<v Speaker 1>The Shooter's gonna help him come.

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<v Speaker 3>This.

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<v Speaker 2>He is the Troubleshooter Show. No Tom Martinez, Welcome, Welcome

1355
01:10:12.279 --> 01:10:14.079
<v Speaker 2>to the only show of it's kind. We're here to

1356
01:10:14.119 --> 01:10:17.720
<v Speaker 2>solve problems, answer questions, take complaints. We are here to

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01:10:17.800 --> 01:10:19.840
<v Speaker 2>make your life a little bit better. You've been ripped off.

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<v Speaker 2>Or taking advantage over and need some help real quick, Kelly,

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01:10:24.159 --> 01:10:26.279
<v Speaker 2>Joe Lazaira is ready to come on as soon as

1360
01:10:26.319 --> 01:10:29.039
<v Speaker 2>you see your dragon. Uh, let's get Joe on. I've

1361
01:10:29.039 --> 01:10:31.199
<v Speaker 2>got him on for two calls. He's one of the

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01:10:31.239 --> 01:10:35.279
<v Speaker 2>best criminal defense attorneys I know, period end of story.

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01:10:35.279 --> 01:10:38.520
<v Speaker 2>He's a great guy, and we're gonna We've got two things.

1364
01:10:38.520 --> 01:10:42.359
<v Speaker 2>We're following up with him. On one, Marx kid got arrested,

1365
01:10:42.720 --> 01:10:47.039
<v Speaker 2>got h basically breathalyzer. They arrested him on a DUI.

1366
01:10:47.359 --> 01:10:50.479
<v Speaker 2>He did not get charged. He blew zeros and he's

1367
01:10:50.520 --> 01:10:53.920
<v Speaker 2>got a ton of questions. And then Jeff possibly we

1368
01:10:54.000 --> 01:10:55.600
<v Speaker 2>haven't got to the end of the story, so I'm

1369
01:10:55.600 --> 01:10:57.479
<v Speaker 2>gonna jump into that, but I do want to tell

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01:10:57.479 --> 01:11:00.239
<v Speaker 2>everybody we got one line open. If you want to

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01:11:00.239 --> 01:11:01.920
<v Speaker 2>get through now, it's time to do it. Three zero

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01:11:02.000 --> 01:11:05.880
<v Speaker 2>three seven one three eight two five five. And then Janey,

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01:11:06.119 --> 01:11:09.000
<v Speaker 2>I'll come to you right after Jeff finishes. She went

1374
01:11:09.000 --> 01:11:11.840
<v Speaker 2>through a checkpoint and I'm not sure what happened, but

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01:11:11.920 --> 01:11:16.039
<v Speaker 2>she might have a question for our criminal defense attorney too.

1376
01:11:16.239 --> 01:11:19.840
<v Speaker 2>But I want to hear a story. So Jeff, Colorado

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01:11:20.640 --> 01:11:23.479
<v Speaker 2>Springs Police Department, you have made and I have to

1378
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:26.399
<v Speaker 2>recap for people just joining us, so I'll do it quick, Jeff.

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01:11:27.199 --> 01:11:29.680
<v Speaker 2>But you own a business down there. You have called

1380
01:11:29.680 --> 01:11:32.680
<v Speaker 2>the police numerous times because they pull up to your

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01:11:32.760 --> 01:11:35.439
<v Speaker 2>car wash or your laundry matt whatever it is where

1382
01:11:35.439 --> 01:11:38.920
<v Speaker 2>there's outside boxes and they break in and they steal

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01:11:39.000 --> 01:11:41.560
<v Speaker 2>the money out of there. And you have called numerous

1384
01:11:41.600 --> 01:11:44.680
<v Speaker 2>times over the years, and nothing seems to happen. You've

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01:11:44.720 --> 01:11:49.680
<v Speaker 2>done reports. But this particular time we're talking about, you called.

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01:11:50.039 --> 01:11:54.199
<v Speaker 2>While people in a keep wanting to say excursion, it's not.

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01:11:54.439 --> 01:11:57.239
<v Speaker 2>It's a what escalate escalator? You know they're doing well

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01:11:57.279 --> 01:11:59.680
<v Speaker 2>if their rolling on escalator, they must be stealing a

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01:11:59.680 --> 01:12:01.800
<v Speaker 2>lot of dough if they're rolling around in the escalade.

1390
01:12:01.840 --> 01:12:05.000
<v Speaker 2>So a black escalade pulls up his motion censor and

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01:12:05.039 --> 01:12:08.840
<v Speaker 2>his business goes off. It's eight nine o'clock in the morning.

1392
01:12:09.279 --> 01:12:12.359
<v Speaker 2>He looks at his phone. He sees the video. These

1393
01:12:12.399 --> 01:12:15.520
<v Speaker 2>people were there forty minutes. He called the police, the

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01:12:15.520 --> 01:12:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Colorado Springs Police Department. He calls them immediately and he says, hey,

1395
01:12:21.239 --> 01:12:24.000
<v Speaker 2>they're there right now. There's four of them. They're in

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01:12:24.079 --> 01:12:28.000
<v Speaker 2>this black truck and they're stealing. They're breaking into my stuff.

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01:12:28.359 --> 01:12:29.439
<v Speaker 2>They never show up.

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01:12:29.720 --> 01:12:32.840
<v Speaker 4>I assume those people stole money and took off, right.

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01:12:34.640 --> 01:12:41.600
<v Speaker 14>Well, they they broke into a billet scepter, and the money,

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01:12:41.680 --> 01:12:43.119
<v Speaker 14>the money is insignificant.

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01:12:43.199 --> 01:12:45.399
<v Speaker 2>That it's the damage they did to it.

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01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:49.920
<v Speaker 14>That's exactly right. Okay, So I've got a long history

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01:12:50.000 --> 01:12:51.079
<v Speaker 14>of that happening.

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01:12:51.159 --> 01:12:53.239
<v Speaker 2>I got it, Jeff, I get it. It's like breaking

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01:12:53.319 --> 01:12:56.880
<v Speaker 2>into a soda machine to steal the you know, the

1406
01:12:56.880 --> 01:12:58.920
<v Speaker 2>one hundred and fifty bucks in there, but you do

1407
01:12:59.079 --> 01:13:02.119
<v Speaker 2>five hundred, one thousand dollars worth of damage to the

1408
01:13:02.119 --> 01:13:05.079
<v Speaker 2>coke machine. But I get it. So the cops don't

1409
01:13:05.119 --> 01:13:08.199
<v Speaker 2>show up. It took him how long to show up?

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01:13:08.279 --> 01:13:09.720
<v Speaker 2>Like fifty sixty minutes?

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01:13:11.399 --> 01:13:15.359
<v Speaker 14>Oh no, it's two fifteen pm, so three.

1412
01:13:15.199 --> 01:13:18.439
<v Speaker 2>Or four hours later? Can you imagine.

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01:13:18.119 --> 01:13:19.760
<v Speaker 14>Over six hours later?

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01:13:19.880 --> 01:13:21.239
<v Speaker 8>But in the meantime show up.

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01:13:21.520 --> 01:13:24.600
<v Speaker 4>Hold on though, In the meantime what happens.

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01:13:25.640 --> 01:13:28.399
<v Speaker 2>You get down there, you start trying to fix the door,

1417
01:13:28.960 --> 01:13:32.479
<v Speaker 2>and this homeless guy shows up, and you've seen him

1418
01:13:32.520 --> 01:13:35.880
<v Speaker 2>there before. You've told him, if you're not a customer,

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01:13:35.960 --> 01:13:40.439
<v Speaker 2>get off my property, and basically the cops have told

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01:13:40.479 --> 01:13:43.399
<v Speaker 2>you before. In order to do anything with these vagrants,

1421
01:13:43.800 --> 01:13:45.840
<v Speaker 2>you got to get a picture of them so we

1422
01:13:45.880 --> 01:13:47.720
<v Speaker 2>can see what he looks like. So you go to

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01:13:47.800 --> 01:13:51.079
<v Speaker 2>take a picture of him, the guy slaps the phone

1424
01:13:51.159 --> 01:13:54.279
<v Speaker 2>out of your hand. It flies up ten feet, comes down.

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01:13:54.840 --> 01:13:57.680
<v Speaker 2>You go and get it. And then where we left

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01:13:57.760 --> 01:14:04.520
<v Speaker 2>off is you level him right that? Yeah, we need

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01:14:04.560 --> 01:14:05.319
<v Speaker 2>to get into that one.

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01:14:06.600 --> 01:14:06.960
<v Speaker 11>Yeah.

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<v Speaker 14>I slapped him to the ground.

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01:14:08.960 --> 01:14:11.399
<v Speaker 2>You my phone slapped.

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01:14:11.479 --> 01:14:16.239
<v Speaker 14>I slapped him to the I slapped him okay, open hand,

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01:14:16.560 --> 01:14:20.840
<v Speaker 14>open hand, left to right, slapped him to the ground,

1433
01:14:21.840 --> 01:14:26.359
<v Speaker 14>leveled them. And then I lock up the business and

1434
01:14:26.399 --> 01:14:31.159
<v Speaker 14>I'm walking to my car because I've noticed there's there's

1435
01:14:31.239 --> 01:14:36.359
<v Speaker 14>like three people in his car. So I'm not going

1436
01:14:36.439 --> 01:14:38.560
<v Speaker 14>to get surrounded by three people. So I get in

1437
01:14:38.600 --> 01:14:39.000
<v Speaker 14>my car.

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01:14:39.279 --> 01:14:41.800
<v Speaker 2>So the homeless had a car with two other people

1439
01:14:41.800 --> 01:14:42.039
<v Speaker 2>in it.

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01:14:43.520 --> 01:14:45.720
<v Speaker 14>That's right, there's three people in that car.

1441
01:14:45.800 --> 01:14:48.239
<v Speaker 2>Now is it possible? And I just want to ask

1442
01:14:48.279 --> 01:14:50.960
<v Speaker 2>you this, Jeff. Is it possible because they're in a

1443
01:14:51.000 --> 01:14:54.520
<v Speaker 2>car and it's a car wash, they were coming to

1444
01:14:54.720 --> 01:14:57.319
<v Speaker 2>wash their car.

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01:14:58.640 --> 01:15:02.319
<v Speaker 14>No, they've never they've never washed the car, they've never

1446
01:15:02.479 --> 01:15:03.279
<v Speaker 14>vacuumed their car.

1447
01:15:03.439 --> 01:15:05.039
<v Speaker 2>What do they generally do there?

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01:15:06.239 --> 01:15:09.840
<v Speaker 14>Well, this individual, what what has happened in the past

1449
01:15:10.079 --> 01:15:14.039
<v Speaker 14>is vagrants walk around the car wash, they try to

1450
01:15:14.119 --> 01:15:17.680
<v Speaker 14>walk around, they're they're they're looking for opportunity. I'll put

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01:15:17.720 --> 01:15:18.039
<v Speaker 14>it that way.

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01:15:18.079 --> 01:15:20.960
<v Speaker 2>Wait, fair enough, So what happened now? Did they call

1453
01:15:21.039 --> 01:15:21.640
<v Speaker 2>the police?

1454
01:15:22.000 --> 01:15:28.880
<v Speaker 14>Okay, they called the police, Uh, because I I leveled

1455
01:15:28.880 --> 01:15:34.399
<v Speaker 14>this individual. I left the site and called them. Yeah,

1456
01:15:34.439 --> 01:15:38.319
<v Speaker 14>and then uh, you know, called them, called the Tallatta

1457
01:15:38.359 --> 01:15:42.000
<v Speaker 14>Springs Police Department to tell them that I was assaulted

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01:15:42.039 --> 01:15:46.079
<v Speaker 14>by this individual and I've left. Uh, I've left the site.

1459
01:15:46.520 --> 01:15:53.039
<v Speaker 14>So long story short, he gets he gets charged with trespassing.

1460
01:15:53.760 --> 01:15:59.039
<v Speaker 14>He was not charged with assaulting me because of your hand.

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01:16:00.720 --> 01:16:01.159
<v Speaker 11>That's right.

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01:16:01.319 --> 01:16:03.439
<v Speaker 2>Okay, keep going, you get charged.

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01:16:05.079 --> 01:16:08.960
<v Speaker 14>Yes, I got charged with Originally I got charged with

1464
01:16:09.039 --> 01:16:12.760
<v Speaker 14>a felony for slapping him. It was reduced to a

1465
01:16:12.800 --> 01:16:18.600
<v Speaker 14>low level misdemeanor. But the issue is he assaulted me.

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01:16:18.840 --> 01:16:20.279
<v Speaker 2>When did this go down.

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01:16:22.079 --> 01:16:25.880
<v Speaker 14>The same day, September eighth, And when is the court date?

1468
01:16:28.760 --> 01:16:32.880
<v Speaker 14>I've already gone to I've already gone to court, and

1469
01:16:33.760 --> 01:16:39.600
<v Speaker 14>the the DA reduced based on the video. The DA

1470
01:16:39.800 --> 01:16:45.159
<v Speaker 14>reduced my charge to a low level misdemeanor. However, the

1471
01:16:45.720 --> 01:16:51.319
<v Speaker 14>issue is that individual that assaulted me got charged with trespassing,

1472
01:16:51.359 --> 01:16:54.520
<v Speaker 14>which doesn't make sense. So the reason for my call

1473
01:16:54.640 --> 01:16:58.039
<v Speaker 14>is I'm trying to determine what is my best course

1474
01:16:58.079 --> 01:17:02.560
<v Speaker 14>of action to get this career. Is it internal affairs

1475
01:17:03.000 --> 01:17:06.439
<v Speaker 14>because my assumption, or is it with an attorney.

1476
01:17:06.479 --> 01:17:08.359
<v Speaker 2>I don't know why you told me. You know, there's

1477
01:17:08.399 --> 01:17:11.239
<v Speaker 2>a few things here, man, Hold on, I just I

1478
01:17:11.279 --> 01:17:13.119
<v Speaker 2>want to put you on a hold just for a second.

1479
01:17:13.199 --> 01:17:17.600
<v Speaker 2>Joe Lazera, Joe, I've got two things for you. Hold

1480
01:17:17.680 --> 01:17:19.600
<v Speaker 2>on a second. I hit the wrong line. Hey Joe,

1481
01:17:19.600 --> 01:17:22.359
<v Speaker 2>are you there? I am, Hey man, I've got two

1482
01:17:22.439 --> 01:17:25.640
<v Speaker 2>things for you. One Jeff. I didn't realize he already

1483
01:17:25.640 --> 01:17:27.560
<v Speaker 2>went to court, but I figured I knew where the

1484
01:17:27.600 --> 01:17:31.000
<v Speaker 2>story's going. You know, his story is a vagrance basically

1485
01:17:31.000 --> 01:17:33.359
<v Speaker 2>on his property, and he was trying to get a

1486
01:17:33.359 --> 01:17:37.479
<v Speaker 2>picture of him because the Colorado Springs Police Department, uh simply,

1487
01:17:37.960 --> 01:17:40.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, wanted a picture of him in order to

1488
01:17:40.119 --> 01:17:43.800
<v Speaker 2>do anything. And the guy slaps him, knocks his phone out.

1489
01:17:44.199 --> 01:17:46.840
<v Speaker 2>This guy, I don't know if it's self defense whatever,

1490
01:17:46.880 --> 01:17:50.000
<v Speaker 2>but he levels them. That's his own words. He ends

1491
01:17:50.079 --> 01:17:53.880
<v Speaker 2>up getting a misdemeanor because they have a video of it.

1492
01:17:54.000 --> 01:17:56.600
<v Speaker 2>So they knock it down from the original felling knee

1493
01:17:56.640 --> 01:17:59.840
<v Speaker 2>to a misdemeanor. So I got I got two things here.

1494
01:18:00.119 --> 01:18:02.079
<v Speaker 2>I know you haven't looked at the video. He does

1495
01:18:02.159 --> 01:18:04.479
<v Speaker 2>have the video, but at this point it doesn't even

1496
01:18:04.600 --> 01:18:09.239
<v Speaker 2>matter because it's it's over. But something along there where

1497
01:18:09.239 --> 01:18:11.399
<v Speaker 2>would you argue that in court with the DA?

1498
01:18:12.600 --> 01:18:15.880
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, I mean obviously while the case is pending, you know,

1499
01:18:15.960 --> 01:18:18.439
<v Speaker 11>at a pre truck conference stage or an arrangement stage,

1500
01:18:18.520 --> 01:18:21.640
<v Speaker 11>would argue to the DA that he's acting himself to that. Yeah,

1501
01:18:21.760 --> 01:18:25.159
<v Speaker 11>But if he's already plaid incentives, yeah.

1502
01:18:25.000 --> 01:18:29.159
<v Speaker 2>It doesn't matter. Right now, let's go to the other

1503
01:18:29.279 --> 01:18:31.880
<v Speaker 2>thing that's driving me crazy. You do quite a bit

1504
01:18:31.920 --> 01:18:36.439
<v Speaker 2>of work in Colorado Springs, right right, So this guy

1505
01:18:36.520 --> 01:18:38.720
<v Speaker 2>is saying the first part of his story before it

1506
01:18:38.760 --> 01:18:43.479
<v Speaker 2>got to that, he calls it eight am or nine am. Literally,

1507
01:18:43.520 --> 01:18:46.840
<v Speaker 2>there's people that spend forty five minutes breaking into his

1508
01:18:47.199 --> 01:18:50.680
<v Speaker 2>coin machines or dollar machines at his car wash. He

1509
01:18:50.760 --> 01:18:53.359
<v Speaker 2>calls nine to one one. They don't show up till

1510
01:18:53.399 --> 01:18:56.239
<v Speaker 2>two o'clock. He has called the police for this same

1511
01:18:56.399 --> 01:19:00.000
<v Speaker 2>kind of stuff, different people. Sometimes they're the same people

1512
01:19:01.000 --> 01:19:04.600
<v Speaker 2>about one hundred times and they never show up. I mean,

1513
01:19:04.680 --> 01:19:08.479
<v Speaker 2>is there anything a business owner can possibly do that

1514
01:19:08.560 --> 01:19:11.920
<v Speaker 2>you know of? I mean it seems crazy. You call

1515
01:19:12.039 --> 01:19:15.119
<v Speaker 2>up and go it's going on right now. I'm watching

1516
01:19:15.159 --> 01:19:17.960
<v Speaker 2>it on my camera and we're not talking Friday or

1517
01:19:18.000 --> 01:19:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Saturday night at one am in the morning. We're talking

1518
01:19:21.199 --> 01:19:24.720
<v Speaker 2>eight or nine o'clock in the morning. What are your

1519
01:19:24.760 --> 01:19:25.520
<v Speaker 2>thoughts on that?

1520
01:19:26.479 --> 01:19:30.000
<v Speaker 11>Right? I think you know with these police departments arriving

1521
01:19:30.079 --> 01:19:33.439
<v Speaker 11>later and later, and that they'll argue that a budget issues.

1522
01:19:33.760 --> 01:19:35.680
<v Speaker 11>But I think you know you've got to make them

1523
01:19:35.720 --> 01:19:38.720
<v Speaker 11>complaints known, not only to the police department, but also

1524
01:19:38.760 --> 01:19:41.000
<v Speaker 11>to the media. That's number one. Number two. Yeah, you

1525
01:19:41.039 --> 01:19:45.079
<v Speaker 11>can't really defend to a certain degree. You can't really

1526
01:19:45.159 --> 01:19:47.920
<v Speaker 11>defend your property like that. I mean, you can't use

1527
01:19:48.039 --> 01:19:51.439
<v Speaker 11>any type of deadly force or physical force unless you

1528
01:19:51.479 --> 01:19:54.920
<v Speaker 11>know you're acting in self defense other than putting yourself

1529
01:19:55.000 --> 01:19:57.800
<v Speaker 11>in jeopardy and saying hey you need to stop, or

1530
01:19:57.800 --> 01:19:58.960
<v Speaker 11>having cameras everywhere.

1531
01:19:59.119 --> 01:20:00.000
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, there's not much.

1532
01:20:00.000 --> 01:20:00.800
<v Speaker 11>What else he can do?

1533
01:20:01.239 --> 01:20:04.600
<v Speaker 2>That's crazy. Now listen, here's what I want to do.

1534
01:20:04.720 --> 01:20:07.600
<v Speaker 2>I wanted because I have you on right now. I've

1535
01:20:07.640 --> 01:20:09.960
<v Speaker 2>got Mark and I'm going to bring him up right

1536
01:20:10.000 --> 01:20:12.000
<v Speaker 2>after this. You can hang with us a few minutes.

1537
01:20:12.039 --> 01:20:16.720
<v Speaker 2>I hope I can't. So Mark's son is sixteen years old.

1538
01:20:16.760 --> 01:20:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I just want to paint this picture. He was coming

1539
01:20:19.319 --> 01:20:22.079
<v Speaker 2>back from a lacrosse game, new driver. He ends up

1540
01:20:22.119 --> 01:20:25.680
<v Speaker 2>getting pulled over by a Parker PD. They say he's

1541
01:20:25.720 --> 01:20:29.279
<v Speaker 2>been drinking. They basically arrest him. They take them to

1542
01:20:29.439 --> 01:20:36.119
<v Speaker 2>the station. He blows zero's the cop. I called an apology,

1543
01:20:36.199 --> 01:20:38.920
<v Speaker 2>but the cop says I made a mistake. And the

1544
01:20:39.039 --> 01:20:43.399
<v Speaker 2>parents come and pick him up. And Mark is furious

1545
01:20:43.439 --> 01:20:48.880
<v Speaker 2>about this situation. The question becomes is there anything he

1546
01:20:49.000 --> 01:20:52.239
<v Speaker 2>can or he should do about it? He wants to

1547
01:20:52.279 --> 01:20:55.159
<v Speaker 2>sue everybody. I don't even know what he'd be suing for.

1548
01:20:55.279 --> 01:20:57.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what the damages are, but that is

1549
01:20:57.960 --> 01:21:01.239
<v Speaker 2>that question. And then, believe it or not, Janey has

1550
01:21:01.279 --> 01:21:04.720
<v Speaker 2>a question. I think she got a dui at a checkpoint.

1551
01:21:05.079 --> 01:21:07.520
<v Speaker 2>It's insane today. Everybody hold on.

1552
01:21:13.720 --> 01:21:16.960
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1553
01:21:17.079 --> 01:21:17.640
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1554
01:21:17.680 --> 01:21:19.399
<v Speaker 8>You don't pay a cent until you're.

1555
01:21:19.319 --> 01:21:26.279
<v Speaker 3>Contenth time for an insurance checkup free, no obligation. In comparison,

1556
01:21:26.399 --> 01:21:29.960
<v Speaker 3>call compass insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

1557
01:21:30.000 --> 01:21:32.720
<v Speaker 3>of insurance companies find out now three oh three, seven

1558
01:21:32.720 --> 01:21:35.079
<v Speaker 3>to seven to one. Help you'll think you're his only

1559
01:21:35.159 --> 01:21:37.640
<v Speaker 3>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate man

1560
01:21:37.680 --> 01:21:41.079
<v Speaker 3>dot Com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

1561
01:21:41.159 --> 01:21:43.199
<v Speaker 3>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty two.

1562
01:21:45.800 --> 01:21:48.159
<v Speaker 2>All right, three O three seven one three eight two

1563
01:21:48.359 --> 01:21:50.479
<v Speaker 2>five five. I'm gonna go right to our expert. Jill

1564
01:21:50.520 --> 01:21:53.239
<v Speaker 2>loves there, Joe, So I'm gonna lock you in and

1565
01:21:53.279 --> 01:21:56.279
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna bring markup. Here's the bottom line. His son

1566
01:21:56.319 --> 01:22:00.760
<v Speaker 2>gets arrested, sixteen years old. They get to the station,

1567
01:22:00.920 --> 01:22:05.399
<v Speaker 2>he blows zeros, and the cop basically says, this isn't Parker.

1568
01:22:05.760 --> 01:22:08.159
<v Speaker 2>The cop. Oh, by the way, I don't know how

1569
01:22:08.199 --> 01:22:11.520
<v Speaker 2>relevant it is, probably not, but the cop was brand new.

1570
01:22:11.560 --> 01:22:14.760
<v Speaker 2>In fact, Mark thinks this was his first arrest. He

1571
01:22:14.880 --> 01:22:17.359
<v Speaker 2>was like fresh out of the academy or whatever that

1572
01:22:17.399 --> 01:22:21.399
<v Speaker 2>looks like. And he's really upset. He wants a lawsuit.

1573
01:22:21.800 --> 01:22:25.439
<v Speaker 2>He's talking Fourth Amendment civil rights. So, Joe, give me

1574
01:22:25.520 --> 01:22:28.079
<v Speaker 2>kind of your opinion on it. I would assume this

1575
01:22:28.199 --> 01:22:30.159
<v Speaker 2>happens more than it doesn't.

1576
01:22:31.279 --> 01:22:33.159
<v Speaker 11>So they did not charge him at all.

1577
01:22:33.199 --> 01:22:38.560
<v Speaker 10>Correct, they did not charge him, but they did charge him.

1578
01:22:39.000 --> 01:22:45.399
<v Speaker 10>They processed him, fingerprints, smugshot, everything before he blew zeros.

1579
01:22:47.199 --> 01:22:48.920
<v Speaker 11>A couple different things. One, you want to make sure

1580
01:22:49.079 --> 01:22:51.680
<v Speaker 11>see if that's on his criminal record at all, the arrest.

1581
01:22:52.439 --> 01:22:57.680
<v Speaker 11>That's number one. Number Two, theoretically there is a lawsuit.

1582
01:22:57.960 --> 01:23:01.960
<v Speaker 11>Damages are not huge, but theoretically there is a zoo

1583
01:23:01.960 --> 01:23:08.640
<v Speaker 11>because he was arrested and detained against his will. But

1584
01:23:08.960 --> 01:23:13.800
<v Speaker 11>I'm seeing with regards to these bacs saying more and more,

1585
01:23:13.960 --> 01:23:19.039
<v Speaker 11>I've had more DUIs with dacs at zero or well

1586
01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:22.119
<v Speaker 11>below the legal limit and I ever have in my

1587
01:23:22.319 --> 01:23:23.479
<v Speaker 11>thirty some years.

1588
01:23:23.520 --> 01:23:25.079
<v Speaker 2>Why why?

1589
01:23:26.399 --> 01:23:30.039
<v Speaker 11>I think it has to do with training, I really do.

1590
01:23:30.079 --> 01:23:31.840
<v Speaker 11>And I think that's the number one thing that they're

1591
01:23:31.880 --> 01:23:35.560
<v Speaker 11>not doing. Is there there's an assumption, Hey, if I

1592
01:23:35.600 --> 01:23:38.960
<v Speaker 11>smile alcohol or if you have certain endisha, I'm going

1593
01:23:39.000 --> 01:23:42.159
<v Speaker 11>to just jump to the conclusion it's a duy without

1594
01:23:42.319 --> 01:23:45.680
<v Speaker 11>being thoroughly trained in order to determine whether or not

1595
01:23:45.800 --> 01:23:48.720
<v Speaker 11>it is. I bet you I have at least six

1596
01:23:48.840 --> 01:23:52.479
<v Speaker 11>right now, six cases that are all below the legal limit.

1597
01:23:52.720 --> 01:23:55.520
<v Speaker 2>So wait a minute, then, how was their actual charges

1598
01:23:55.600 --> 01:23:58.720
<v Speaker 2>if they're below the legal limit, or they are they saying, oh,

1599
01:23:58.760 --> 01:24:01.199
<v Speaker 2>you must have been high or what? I guess I

1600
01:24:01.199 --> 01:24:02.279
<v Speaker 2>don't get that, Joe.

1601
01:24:03.359 --> 01:24:06.279
<v Speaker 11>So several of them, most of them are blood tests.

1602
01:24:06.439 --> 01:24:09.119
<v Speaker 11>So they get arrested, they get cited, they have a

1603
01:24:09.159 --> 01:24:11.960
<v Speaker 11>court date, they had submitted to a blood test. Blood

1604
01:24:12.000 --> 01:24:15.399
<v Speaker 11>test comes back either no alcohol or.

1605
01:24:15.279 --> 01:24:17.000
<v Speaker 2>Well blow oh wait a minute, Wait a minute. How

1606
01:24:17.000 --> 01:24:19.800
<v Speaker 2>long did generally take for a blood test?

1607
01:24:19.800 --> 01:24:20.800
<v Speaker 11>Three to six months?

1608
01:24:21.119 --> 01:24:24.479
<v Speaker 2>So wait a second, So what happens in the introm

1609
01:24:24.560 --> 01:24:28.000
<v Speaker 2>before that comes back? Charges are definitely pressed at that

1610
01:24:28.079 --> 01:24:31.279
<v Speaker 2>point because they contacted you. But I mean, like, do

1611
01:24:31.359 --> 01:24:34.439
<v Speaker 2>they lose their license? Do some of these people like

1612
01:24:34.920 --> 01:24:36.880
<v Speaker 2>what happens now?

1613
01:24:37.600 --> 01:24:40.520
<v Speaker 11>Usually not. But usually we're just dealing with multiple court

1614
01:24:40.560 --> 01:24:43.560
<v Speaker 11>appearances because the courts don't really want to set out

1615
01:24:43.640 --> 01:24:46.680
<v Speaker 11>too far in light of the fact that the blood

1616
01:24:46.720 --> 01:24:50.520
<v Speaker 11>tests are taking so long, and that's CBI and that's

1617
01:24:50.560 --> 01:24:52.840
<v Speaker 11>a government agency that's taken so long. I mean, we

1618
01:24:52.880 --> 01:24:56.119
<v Speaker 11>can get a retest and know the number that we're

1619
01:24:56.119 --> 01:24:58.479
<v Speaker 11>dealing with within two to three weeks.

1620
01:24:58.840 --> 01:25:02.439
<v Speaker 2>Oh my goodness, that's crazy. And then you can step

1621
01:25:02.479 --> 01:25:05.680
<v Speaker 2>in and show that to the DA's office or the

1622
01:25:05.720 --> 01:25:08.840
<v Speaker 2>prosecution or the judge whoever you need to and kind

1623
01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:11.159
<v Speaker 2>of put it behind it. But here's the part that

1624
01:25:11.279 --> 01:25:14.359
<v Speaker 2>really sucks about this. These people come out of pocket

1625
01:25:14.399 --> 01:25:18.399
<v Speaker 2>to hire you. Is there any ramifications to go after

1626
01:25:19.279 --> 01:25:23.279
<v Speaker 2>the police officer themselves. I'm sure that that probably can't

1627
01:25:23.319 --> 01:25:27.239
<v Speaker 2>happen under the scope of most normal things. But is

1628
01:25:27.279 --> 01:25:31.000
<v Speaker 2>there any way you can ever get like victim's advocate

1629
01:25:31.119 --> 01:25:32.039
<v Speaker 2>money or something.

1630
01:25:33.199 --> 01:25:36.960
<v Speaker 11>Now, I'm usually other than suing them or you know,

1631
01:25:37.039 --> 01:25:38.520
<v Speaker 11>I mean, the most you can A lot of times

1632
01:25:38.520 --> 01:25:40.439
<v Speaker 11>you can get is pay this person needs to do

1633
01:25:40.600 --> 01:25:44.000
<v Speaker 11>to additional training and you know he can report that.

1634
01:25:45.159 --> 01:25:47.520
<v Speaker 11>But other than that, that's really what happens. I mean

1635
01:25:47.880 --> 01:25:50.600
<v Speaker 11>a lot of these das I have cases right now

1636
01:25:50.640 --> 01:25:54.079
<v Speaker 11>where they're pulled over for say speeding or you know,

1637
01:25:54.159 --> 01:25:56.920
<v Speaker 11>some type of traffic violet and submit to the blood

1638
01:25:56.960 --> 01:26:00.399
<v Speaker 11>test it's below the legal limit or no alcohol rugs,

1639
01:26:00.960 --> 01:26:03.960
<v Speaker 11>and yet they want him to plead to the traffic offense,

1640
01:26:04.119 --> 01:26:06.880
<v Speaker 11>which prohibits on stealing the record, so it stays on

1641
01:26:06.920 --> 01:26:09.159
<v Speaker 11>the record that they got arrested for a DUI or whatever.

1642
01:26:10.039 --> 01:26:11.840
<v Speaker 11>So those are some of the battles that we're fighting

1643
01:26:11.920 --> 01:26:15.000
<v Speaker 11>right now. Some DA's are more than agreeable and dismissing

1644
01:26:15.079 --> 01:26:18.279
<v Speaker 11>the cases, but EAHDA in each office is different.

1645
01:26:18.439 --> 01:26:21.039
<v Speaker 2>Hey, hey, Mark, did your son get a ticket for

1646
01:26:21.079 --> 01:26:23.920
<v Speaker 2>the swerving or the headlights out or did they just

1647
01:26:23.960 --> 01:26:28.000
<v Speaker 2>cut them loose all together, cut them loose. So if

1648
01:26:28.039 --> 01:26:31.239
<v Speaker 2>he did, let's say that cop after making this mistake,

1649
01:26:31.279 --> 01:26:34.119
<v Speaker 2>because honestly, in my opinion, that's what it is. If

1650
01:26:34.159 --> 01:26:36.640
<v Speaker 2>they did give him a ticket for having his headlights

1651
01:26:36.680 --> 01:26:40.279
<v Speaker 2>off or whatever the thing is you're saying, Joe, that

1652
01:26:40.359 --> 01:26:43.239
<v Speaker 2>would still be on his record that he was arrested

1653
01:26:43.239 --> 01:26:44.079
<v Speaker 2>for DUI.

1654
01:26:44.840 --> 01:26:47.079
<v Speaker 11>Well, I think right now it may show up that

1655
01:26:47.119 --> 01:26:48.640
<v Speaker 11>he's got arrested for a DUI.

1656
01:26:49.239 --> 01:26:51.079
<v Speaker 14>Oh my god, that's something you have.

1657
01:26:51.119 --> 01:26:53.600
<v Speaker 11>To look at. Your want to pull that and double.

1658
01:26:53.399 --> 01:26:55.880
<v Speaker 2>Check and what happens if it is on there? Does

1659
01:26:55.880 --> 01:26:58.199
<v Speaker 2>that mean he needs to hire someone like you to

1660
01:26:58.239 --> 01:26:59.239
<v Speaker 2>get it expunged?

1661
01:27:00.119 --> 01:27:04.399
<v Speaker 11>You can seal it. I mean, it's Colorado's now simplified,

1662
01:27:04.640 --> 01:27:06.800
<v Speaker 11>so an individual could do that on their own. But

1663
01:27:06.920 --> 01:27:09.399
<v Speaker 11>that's something I would tell you to just double check,

1664
01:27:09.439 --> 01:27:12.359
<v Speaker 11>because I'm not sure if the jails process and whether

1665
01:27:12.399 --> 01:27:15.640
<v Speaker 11>they would afforded the fingerprints and the charges to CBI

1666
01:27:15.840 --> 01:27:16.039
<v Speaker 11>or not.

1667
01:27:16.359 --> 01:27:19.119
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Joe, the other thing is he said his son

1668
01:27:20.520 --> 01:27:23.119
<v Speaker 2>wanted to do a breath test right then and there

1669
01:27:23.159 --> 01:27:26.600
<v Speaker 2>when pulled over, and they decided to bring him in instead.

1670
01:27:27.000 --> 01:27:29.680
<v Speaker 2>But does that have anything to do with his age?

1671
01:27:29.760 --> 01:27:32.640
<v Speaker 2>If you're sixteen years old? Do they have to bring

1672
01:27:32.680 --> 01:27:35.880
<v Speaker 2>you in? Can you consent to a breathalyzer? I mean,

1673
01:27:35.880 --> 01:27:38.199
<v Speaker 2>what are the rules when you're a minor, but yet

1674
01:27:38.199 --> 01:27:39.239
<v Speaker 2>you're able to drive.

1675
01:27:40.840 --> 01:27:44.000
<v Speaker 11>So with regards to the PBT, you know a lot

1676
01:27:44.039 --> 01:27:46.079
<v Speaker 11>of the officers don't have one.

1677
01:27:45.880 --> 01:27:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Got in their vehicle because you can't even use them

1678
01:27:48.399 --> 01:27:52.640
<v Speaker 2>in court. We always have as well, I missed that

1679
01:27:52.760 --> 01:27:53.439
<v Speaker 2>last part show.

1680
01:27:53.640 --> 01:27:55.920
<v Speaker 11>Oh they're not admissible in court. Yeah, that you can't

1681
01:27:56.000 --> 01:27:56.359
<v Speaker 11>use them?

1682
01:27:56.439 --> 01:27:58.239
<v Speaker 2>Is that why they don't carry him that much?

1683
01:28:00.199 --> 01:28:03.960
<v Speaker 11>Plus they're expensive, they have to be calibrated, and it's

1684
01:28:04.000 --> 01:28:06.399
<v Speaker 11>just a tool that they use kind of like road types.

1685
01:28:06.479 --> 01:28:09.920
<v Speaker 2>Go ahead, Hey, Joe, it's Henry here. I've got a

1686
01:28:10.000 --> 01:28:10.720
<v Speaker 2>question for you.

1687
01:28:10.880 --> 01:28:15.920
<v Speaker 7>So, if the breathalyzer doesn't work in court and they're

1688
01:28:16.359 --> 01:28:19.000
<v Speaker 7>some of your clients are facing these only the roadside, Yeah,

1689
01:28:19.359 --> 01:28:21.720
<v Speaker 7>they're If they're facing these charges and they're waiting for

1690
01:28:21.800 --> 01:28:26.760
<v Speaker 7>that blood sample to come back, what argument is happening

1691
01:28:26.800 --> 01:28:29.039
<v Speaker 7>in court or what proceedings are happening?

1692
01:28:29.119 --> 01:28:30.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, why are you there? In other words, you said

1693
01:28:30.960 --> 01:28:33.560
<v Speaker 2>there's court dates Joe, right, So.

1694
01:28:34.239 --> 01:28:36.279
<v Speaker 11>And I just want to clarify the PBT, the portable

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01:28:36.319 --> 01:28:39.319
<v Speaker 11>bread test that they give on scene that's not admissible.

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01:28:39.359 --> 01:28:40.760
<v Speaker 11>Deck can not be used in court.

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<v Speaker 4>That's right.

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<v Speaker 11>They usually will have it didn't blow it to the

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01:28:43.319 --> 01:28:46.359
<v Speaker 11>atoxized machine, which is what this sixteen year old did.

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01:28:46.680 --> 01:28:49.199
<v Speaker 11>But I like say, on my cases where we're doing blood,

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01:28:49.439 --> 01:28:51.119
<v Speaker 11>we go to court and we simply show up and

1702
01:28:51.159 --> 01:28:55.039
<v Speaker 11>it gets continued. That happens multiple times, until it still

1703
01:28:55.119 --> 01:28:58.720
<v Speaker 11>happens even on people over the legal limit. We're showing

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01:28:58.800 --> 01:29:02.359
<v Speaker 11>up to court multiple been having those cases continued while

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01:29:02.359 --> 01:29:06.000
<v Speaker 11>we're waiting on Colorado Bureau of Investigation and analyzed bloodst.

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01:29:05.720 --> 01:29:07.880
<v Speaker 2>I mean, what are you even doing though? If there's

1707
01:29:07.880 --> 01:29:10.640
<v Speaker 2>not a whole lot of information's got a court there,

1708
01:29:10.319 --> 01:29:13.079
<v Speaker 2>they have to go to court, they're summons to court.

1709
01:29:13.119 --> 01:29:15.279
<v Speaker 2>They have no choice but to show up and right, Joe,

1710
01:29:15.359 --> 01:29:17.880
<v Speaker 2>what's the conversation then we.

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01:29:17.880 --> 01:29:19.720
<v Speaker 11>Don't have that. Yeah, I mean we'll have the police

1712
01:29:19.760 --> 01:29:22.840
<v Speaker 11>reports and everything, but waiting on the blood the blooder.

1713
01:29:22.960 --> 01:29:26.960
<v Speaker 11>Often the das cannot offer, make any type of offer

1714
01:29:27.039 --> 01:29:30.119
<v Speaker 11>or do anything until they see the state's ask result.

1715
01:29:30.520 --> 01:29:32.319
<v Speaker 11>So a lot of times you're just simply showing up,

1716
01:29:32.520 --> 01:29:34.399
<v Speaker 11>we don't have blood, and they're continuing it.

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01:29:34.520 --> 01:29:37.119
<v Speaker 2>Hey, Joe, so and Mark I'll let you ask whatever

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01:29:37.239 --> 01:29:39.960
<v Speaker 2>questions in a second. But between you and Henry, you

1719
01:29:40.000 --> 01:29:42.359
<v Speaker 2>made me think of something we always hear of right

1720
01:29:42.439 --> 01:29:45.439
<v Speaker 2>to a speedy trial. And then when you said, CBI,

1721
01:29:45.600 --> 01:29:48.359
<v Speaker 2>I watched this story four or five months ago, we're

1722
01:29:48.439 --> 01:29:52.479
<v Speaker 2>like rape kits. Like literally, if someone gets raped in Colorado,

1723
01:29:52.680 --> 01:29:55.520
<v Speaker 2>it can take up to two years because we had

1724
01:29:55.560 --> 01:29:58.520
<v Speaker 2>some sham running the lab or something a while back.

1725
01:29:58.840 --> 01:30:02.479
<v Speaker 2>So when there's delays like that, do you, as a

1726
01:30:02.560 --> 01:30:06.279
<v Speaker 2>defense attorney, knowing these delays are crazy, just right to

1727
01:30:06.359 --> 01:30:08.840
<v Speaker 2>a speedy trial ever come into play?

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01:30:10.079 --> 01:30:12.920
<v Speaker 11>So you can as soon as you are not guilty, please,

1729
01:30:12.920 --> 01:30:16.279
<v Speaker 11>So sometimes we'll not guilty, glee right away and get

1730
01:30:16.279 --> 01:30:21.840
<v Speaker 11>that clock counting, you know, running. Otherwise, sometimes we'll just continue,

1731
01:30:22.319 --> 01:30:25.039
<v Speaker 11>especially since we'll know the result because we can get

1732
01:30:25.079 --> 01:30:28.399
<v Speaker 11>a second. For example, we tested a private lab, we'll

1733
01:30:28.439 --> 01:30:30.399
<v Speaker 11>know that result. A lot of times we'll discontinue it

1734
01:30:30.439 --> 01:30:31.239
<v Speaker 11>to get medication.

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01:30:31.880 --> 01:30:36.439
<v Speaker 10>Mark, you got any questions there any kind of civil

1736
01:30:36.680 --> 01:30:39.560
<v Speaker 10>rights Fourth Amendment violation you see here?

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01:30:40.399 --> 01:30:42.399
<v Speaker 11>If I could have one, if you want to call me,

1738
01:30:42.600 --> 01:30:45.279
<v Speaker 11>he was speaking Ry. I'd like to call you offline,

1739
01:30:45.319 --> 01:30:48.560
<v Speaker 11>if you don't mind. Yeah, that'd be fine.

1740
01:30:48.800 --> 01:30:51.840
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, let's do that. Hey, Joe Lozara, I like always, Man,

1741
01:30:51.880 --> 01:30:54.600
<v Speaker 2>I really appreciate you coming on. You're a wealth of

1742
01:30:54.680 --> 01:30:57.000
<v Speaker 2>information when it comes to rights that a lot of

1743
01:30:57.039 --> 01:31:01.079
<v Speaker 2>people don't know. We've got Memorial Day come fourth of July,

1744
01:31:01.239 --> 01:31:04.079
<v Speaker 2>than before you know it, we're running into New Year's

1745
01:31:04.119 --> 01:31:07.279
<v Speaker 2>all the dui stuff, and I love having you on

1746
01:31:07.399 --> 01:31:09.680
<v Speaker 2>just to educate people. So I'll get you on again.

1747
01:31:09.720 --> 01:31:12.479
<v Speaker 2>But I got to give your number out again. Anybody

1748
01:31:12.560 --> 01:31:14.840
<v Speaker 2>out there, and if you have any questions, if you're

1749
01:31:14.880 --> 01:31:18.239
<v Speaker 2>facing something you need help. I mean, I don't know

1750
01:31:18.239 --> 01:31:20.439
<v Speaker 2>what else to say. Why would you go up against

1751
01:31:20.439 --> 01:31:23.239
<v Speaker 2>a DA or an attorney and a judge when you

1752
01:31:23.319 --> 01:31:27.479
<v Speaker 2>don't have anybody on your side? You're crazy, Joe. Last question,

1753
01:31:27.920 --> 01:31:30.960
<v Speaker 2>the outlook when someone has a DUI with an attorney

1754
01:31:31.079 --> 01:31:34.159
<v Speaker 2>or with you, I should say, compared to not having

1755
01:31:34.159 --> 01:31:37.960
<v Speaker 2>an attorney. I mean, like, give us a difference of

1756
01:31:38.000 --> 01:31:41.600
<v Speaker 2>what the outcome could be. I know that's hard to do.

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01:31:42.239 --> 01:31:44.720
<v Speaker 11>Yeah, it is hard, but I would say, you know,

1758
01:31:44.760 --> 01:31:48.880
<v Speaker 11>most attorneys are good. Duy attorneys can't evaluate the facts.

1759
01:31:49.159 --> 01:31:54.079
<v Speaker 11>That's number one. Are the legitimate issues. That's a big factor.

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01:31:54.119 --> 01:31:56.359
<v Speaker 11>The other thing is just being able to negotiate. I

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01:31:56.359 --> 01:31:59.399
<v Speaker 11>mean I did the case the other day. BAC was

1762
01:31:59.680 --> 01:32:03.439
<v Speaker 11>well over almost a point four, and we were able

1763
01:32:03.479 --> 01:32:06.760
<v Speaker 11>to get the very minimum in home detention sentence. So

1764
01:32:07.039 --> 01:32:11.520
<v Speaker 11>those things happen, whereas I think most cases, most individuals

1765
01:32:11.520 --> 01:32:15.479
<v Speaker 11>would walk in and have a higher jail sentence including jail.

1766
01:32:15.520 --> 01:32:17.600
<v Speaker 11>So a lot of times, even in the worst case,

1767
01:32:17.640 --> 01:32:20.319
<v Speaker 11>we can get an home or minimum at home and

1768
01:32:20.439 --> 01:32:24.960
<v Speaker 11>lesser penalties. And that's I think a big area where

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01:32:25.039 --> 01:32:28.119
<v Speaker 11>duy attorneys play a huge hole is the mitigation. If

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01:32:28.119 --> 01:32:29.720
<v Speaker 11>you can't beat it, how do we minimize that?

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01:32:29.880 --> 01:32:33.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, exactly. And then the last thing would be on

1772
01:32:33.039 --> 01:32:35.479
<v Speaker 2>that kind of stuff, and I mean DUIs. I mean

1773
01:32:35.560 --> 01:32:38.119
<v Speaker 2>maybe if they're three or four times in on a felony,

1774
01:32:38.159 --> 01:32:40.720
<v Speaker 2>it might be different. But you do have flat rate

1775
01:32:40.840 --> 01:32:43.439
<v Speaker 2>pricing on some of that stuff, right. So in other words,

1776
01:32:43.520 --> 01:32:47.039
<v Speaker 2>if someone calls you now that is facing a DUI

1777
01:32:47.479 --> 01:32:49.920
<v Speaker 2>and they're like, oh, well, you know it's going to

1778
01:32:49.960 --> 01:32:53.479
<v Speaker 2>be what it is necessarily, that's not true. You might

1779
01:32:53.520 --> 01:32:55.279
<v Speaker 2>be able to help them big time by looking at

1780
01:32:55.319 --> 01:32:57.920
<v Speaker 2>the facts, but you can actually give them a quote

1781
01:32:57.920 --> 01:33:01.560
<v Speaker 2>on what it's going to run. Most cases, Oh yeah.

1782
01:33:01.359 --> 01:33:05.720
<v Speaker 11>Absolutely, we do flatb pricing even the felonydus I love.

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01:33:05.600 --> 01:33:09.560
<v Speaker 2>It three oh three four two nine sixty two hundred,

1784
01:33:09.920 --> 01:33:12.439
<v Speaker 2>Joe Lazzara, I promise you people put it in your

1785
01:33:12.439 --> 01:33:15.760
<v Speaker 2>phone three zero three four two nine sixty two hundred

1786
01:33:15.960 --> 01:33:19.239
<v Speaker 2>call with any questions. He represents the entire Gamut three

1787
01:33:19.359 --> 01:33:21.880
<v Speaker 2>oh three four two nine sixty two hundred.

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<v Speaker 4>Thanks to you.

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<v Speaker 3>Go with a sure thing Denver's best roofer Excel Roofing

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<v Speaker 3>call Compass Insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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<v Speaker 3>of insurance companies find out now three oh three, seven

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<v Speaker 3>to seven to one help. You'll think you're his only

1795
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<v Speaker 3>customer when you choose Frank durand the real estate Man

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<v Speaker 3>dot com to list your home with Remax Alliance three

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<v Speaker 3>oh three nine.

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<v Speaker 4>Two zero sixteen twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>All right, threeho three seven one three eight two five

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01:34:04.439 --> 01:34:07.159
<v Speaker 2>five three oh three Martino, you've been ripped off for

1801
01:34:07.279 --> 01:34:10.279
<v Speaker 2>taking advantage of my goodness to Meitred. Do you remember

1802
01:34:10.319 --> 01:34:14.520
<v Speaker 2>a show where we had so many calls for a

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01:34:14.600 --> 01:34:17.560
<v Speaker 2>criminal defense attorney? I mean, I just don't remember one

1804
01:34:17.600 --> 01:34:18.399
<v Speaker 2>in a long time.

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01:34:18.920 --> 01:34:21.199
<v Speaker 17>No, well, I think it's because this topic just hasn't

1806
01:34:21.199 --> 01:34:23.840
<v Speaker 17>come up in a long time. But people are extremely

1807
01:34:23.880 --> 01:34:26.920
<v Speaker 17>concerned about crime. Like this gentleman in Colorado Springs with

1808
01:34:26.960 --> 01:34:28.960
<v Speaker 17>his car wash. I mean, what is he to do?

1809
01:34:29.119 --> 01:34:32.000
<v Speaker 17>I mean, just forget about what he already went through there.

1810
01:34:32.079 --> 01:34:34.199
<v Speaker 2>This guy's getting ripped off all the time in the

1811
01:34:34.199 --> 01:34:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Colorado Springs Police Department. Just period, don't show up.

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01:34:38.000 --> 01:34:39.960
<v Speaker 17>Yeah, and it's going to keep going on, And the

1813
01:34:39.960 --> 01:34:42.039
<v Speaker 17>same thing happens in Denver, the same thing happens.

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01:34:42.199 --> 01:34:45.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm going to introduce you. One of these days. You

1815
01:34:45.079 --> 01:34:47.920
<v Speaker 2>and I will take a drive down when time's uh

1816
01:34:48.119 --> 01:34:50.760
<v Speaker 2>one hundred percent back, which should be you know, pretty soon,

1817
01:34:51.319 --> 01:34:55.039
<v Speaker 2>you and I will head down to KRDO in the Springs,

1818
01:34:55.359 --> 01:34:57.800
<v Speaker 2>and I want to introduce you to their TV people

1819
01:34:58.159 --> 01:35:01.319
<v Speaker 2>because occasionally we get a good like that, they'll jump

1820
01:35:01.359 --> 01:35:04.119
<v Speaker 2>on it. And it's basically like having nine News or

1821
01:35:04.159 --> 01:35:06.279
<v Speaker 2>Fox thirty one down there. I believe.

1822
01:35:06.319 --> 01:35:07.239
<v Speaker 4>I don't want to say.

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01:35:07.039 --> 01:35:09.279
<v Speaker 2>It, but I think they're the NBC affiliate. It's one

1824
01:35:09.359 --> 01:35:12.520
<v Speaker 2>of the three big ones. But sometimes that works out

1825
01:35:12.560 --> 01:35:15.800
<v Speaker 2>really good. I wish we had that kind of connection here. Generally,

1826
01:35:15.840 --> 01:35:18.760
<v Speaker 2>hear what happens is one of the news people are

1827
01:35:18.800 --> 01:35:21.680
<v Speaker 2>just listening and then they steal the story. But anyhow,

1828
01:35:21.680 --> 01:35:23.560
<v Speaker 2>that's just what I've seen.

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01:35:23.560 --> 01:35:25.880
<v Speaker 17>It's a great idea, especially in the context of this

1830
01:35:26.000 --> 01:35:28.399
<v Speaker 17>being a consumer of fish and he's got a video,

1831
01:35:28.560 --> 01:35:31.680
<v Speaker 17>and this gentleman really is a consumer of police services

1832
01:35:32.039 --> 01:35:34.920
<v Speaker 17>and he's getting really crappy service over there, and it

1833
01:35:34.920 --> 01:35:36.680
<v Speaker 17>would be nice to find out what can be done

1834
01:35:36.680 --> 01:35:37.199
<v Speaker 17>about that.

1835
01:35:37.319 --> 01:35:39.840
<v Speaker 2>You know, you were talking to Henry Bradstur in the

1836
01:35:39.880 --> 01:35:43.680
<v Speaker 2>break and you said a very interesting question. You said, Hey,

1837
01:35:43.720 --> 01:35:46.000
<v Speaker 2>how much would a slate roof cost? And right now

1838
01:35:46.279 --> 01:35:50.520
<v Speaker 2>you basically just have Aspholet shingles. Right.

1839
01:35:50.560 --> 01:35:52.840
<v Speaker 17>Well, I was asking the question in the context of

1840
01:35:52.840 --> 01:35:54.359
<v Speaker 17>a home that I want to build.

1841
01:35:54.359 --> 01:35:57.720
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and oh, compared to compared.

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01:35:57.319 --> 01:36:00.800
<v Speaker 17>To what So if I go with a standard roof

1843
01:36:00.920 --> 01:36:03.279
<v Speaker 17>kind of like some of the synthetic material that Henry showed,

1844
01:36:03.800 --> 01:36:07.039
<v Speaker 17>or what I really love is a real slate roof,

1845
01:36:07.479 --> 01:36:09.800
<v Speaker 17>And I said, just roughly speaking, how much more would

1846
01:36:09.800 --> 01:36:11.079
<v Speaker 17>a guy budget for that.

1847
01:36:11.239 --> 01:36:13.239
<v Speaker 2>In a new build? In a new build? Well, I

1848
01:36:13.279 --> 01:36:15.960
<v Speaker 2>got two questions for Henry. One in a new build,

1849
01:36:16.000 --> 01:36:19.439
<v Speaker 2>what was your answer? Roughly like twenty percent more? One

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01:36:19.520 --> 01:36:23.079
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent more. I mean a slate roof you're gonna have,

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01:36:23.399 --> 01:36:26.680
<v Speaker 2>I mean, correct me, but you're gonna have to have

1852
01:36:26.920 --> 01:36:30.239
<v Speaker 2>stronger decking. I mean, tell me the difference when you're

1853
01:36:30.359 --> 01:36:33.319
<v Speaker 2>when you're thinking of a house that has asphalt compared

1854
01:36:33.359 --> 01:36:35.800
<v Speaker 2>to slate. There's just a lot more that goes into it.

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01:36:35.840 --> 01:36:38.000
<v Speaker 7>So slate's probably not going to be quite as heavy

1856
01:36:38.039 --> 01:36:41.640
<v Speaker 7>as a thick concrete tile, but it's going to be close, right,

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01:36:41.880 --> 01:36:44.359
<v Speaker 7>So it's going to be you know, you're you're gonna

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01:36:44.399 --> 01:36:46.359
<v Speaker 7>have to have a structural engineer out there verify the

1859
01:36:46.479 --> 01:36:48.359
<v Speaker 7>rafters can support the additional weight.

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01:36:48.159 --> 01:36:50.199
<v Speaker 2>And making you're building in the home. No, of course,

1861
01:36:50.239 --> 01:36:52.680
<v Speaker 2>that's all that into it though.

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01:36:52.800 --> 01:36:55.479
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, from the cost of absolutely so, I mean for

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01:36:55.600 --> 01:36:57.720
<v Speaker 7>the slate roof to do a reroof, you're probably looking

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01:36:57.760 --> 01:37:02.479
<v Speaker 7>like five times the cost for a new conplace, probably

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01:37:02.479 --> 01:37:05.840
<v Speaker 7>about four times. But it really depends on what type

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01:37:05.840 --> 01:37:08.399
<v Speaker 7>of slate you get. Yeah, if it's being hand cut

1867
01:37:08.520 --> 01:37:11.119
<v Speaker 7>on site, how much adjustment is going to have to

1868
01:37:11.159 --> 01:37:14.319
<v Speaker 7>happen because this is more of like an artesian crafted roof, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Which the craziest roof you ever heard of.

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01:37:17.119 --> 01:37:20.479
<v Speaker 7>You know, these copper roofs are pretty sweet. These copper shingles.

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<v Speaker 2>Do they dent with the hail?

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01:37:22.920 --> 01:37:23.199
<v Speaker 6>Yeah?

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01:37:23.239 --> 01:37:26.399
<v Speaker 2>Absolutely anything metal will dent with hail. So they probably

1874
01:37:26.439 --> 01:37:30.479
<v Speaker 2>cost a fortune. Yeah, and then I mean even to ensure.

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01:37:30.560 --> 01:37:31.600
<v Speaker 2>But they're sweet looking.

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01:37:32.359 --> 01:37:35.600
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, they're They're the most expensive roof that we can

1877
01:37:35.640 --> 01:37:38.520
<v Speaker 7>think of. And those copper roofs they also have copper

1878
01:37:38.600 --> 01:37:40.920
<v Speaker 7>gutters and they have copper rivets.

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01:37:41.000 --> 01:37:45.880
<v Speaker 2>When it comes to you guys going out and looking

1880
01:37:45.920 --> 01:37:48.520
<v Speaker 2>at a steel roof after a hailstorm or a copper

1881
01:37:48.600 --> 01:37:51.800
<v Speaker 2>roof for something they can dent, isn't there a lot

1882
01:37:51.800 --> 01:37:55.479
<v Speaker 2>of policies that say, long as it's not leaking that

1883
01:37:55.760 --> 01:37:59.520
<v Speaker 2>we're not going to replace it. Is that correct generally speaking?

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01:38:00.119 --> 01:38:03.359
<v Speaker 2>Is that how it is now? So it cosmetic? Sure,

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01:38:03.560 --> 01:38:06.039
<v Speaker 2>that's exactly what it is. And it really depends where

1886
01:38:06.039 --> 01:38:08.520
<v Speaker 2>the hail hits are. Right, if they are in a

1887
01:38:08.640 --> 01:38:12.640
<v Speaker 2>structural part of that you know shingle they come in panels,

1888
01:38:12.680 --> 01:38:15.039
<v Speaker 2>this stone code steal stuff does. If it's in a

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01:38:15.039 --> 01:38:18.159
<v Speaker 2>structural part, that would be terms for a hail claim.

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01:38:18.239 --> 01:38:18.359
<v Speaker 11>Right.

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01:38:18.680 --> 01:38:21.159
<v Speaker 7>If this is just cosmetic, say that the big hits

1892
01:38:21.159 --> 01:38:23.439
<v Speaker 7>were just mainly on the face, they're gonna deny it.

1893
01:38:23.680 --> 01:38:25.720
<v Speaker 7>And that's why You really need someone who knows what

1894
01:38:25.720 --> 01:38:28.000
<v Speaker 7>they're talking about, because a lot of these roof and

1895
01:38:28.039 --> 01:38:31.000
<v Speaker 7>contractors and for everyone listening, just really take this to heart.

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01:38:31.159 --> 01:38:33.039
<v Speaker 7>They're gonna come out there and they're going to tell

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01:38:33.039 --> 01:38:35.960
<v Speaker 7>you to file a claim. It's the easiest way for

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01:38:36.000 --> 01:38:38.279
<v Speaker 7>them to get a bunch of business. And whoever gets

1899
01:38:38.279 --> 01:38:43.439
<v Speaker 7>denied contract, whoever gets denied, it's no sweat off their back, right,

1900
01:38:43.479 --> 01:38:45.640
<v Speaker 7>they got a shot at it. You really need someone

1901
01:38:45.640 --> 01:38:47.960
<v Speaker 7>and even if you don't use Excel, someone that's gonna

1902
01:38:48.000 --> 01:38:50.600
<v Speaker 7>go out there and really knows what they're doing. It

1903
01:38:50.640 --> 01:38:53.439
<v Speaker 7>only recommends you to file a claim if they really

1904
01:38:53.520 --> 01:38:56.680
<v Speaker 7>believe that you're gonna get a claim, because otherwise you're

1905
01:38:56.680 --> 01:38:58.760
<v Speaker 7>gonna get a claim on your record. Right if you

1906
01:38:58.800 --> 01:39:01.159
<v Speaker 7>call your adjuster and they deny you, you're gonna get

1907
01:39:01.159 --> 01:39:03.239
<v Speaker 7>a claim. Your rates are gonna go up.

1908
01:39:03.399 --> 01:39:05.439
<v Speaker 2>So listen, and what he's saying there is a lot

1909
01:39:05.479 --> 01:39:08.119
<v Speaker 2>of people don't realize this. Here's this thing the insurance

1910
01:39:08.159 --> 01:39:11.680
<v Speaker 2>companies all share. It's called the clue report. And that

1911
01:39:11.760 --> 01:39:15.119
<v Speaker 2>clue report, even if your claim was denied, if you

1912
01:39:15.239 --> 01:39:17.840
<v Speaker 2>put in the claim, your rates most likely are gonna

1913
01:39:17.840 --> 01:39:19.880
<v Speaker 2>go up. And I'll tell you why. They think you're

1914
01:39:19.920 --> 01:39:22.439
<v Speaker 2>gonna call all the time. They're gonna say, this guy

1915
01:39:22.479 --> 01:39:24.880
<v Speaker 2>put a claim in there wasn't even any damage. We

1916
01:39:24.920 --> 01:39:27.640
<v Speaker 2>don't want this kind of customer, so we're gonna charge

1917
01:39:27.680 --> 01:39:28.479
<v Speaker 2>him more money.

1918
01:39:29.199 --> 01:39:31.880
<v Speaker 7>Yeah, absolutely, Mark, and I would really urge all the

1919
01:39:31.920 --> 01:39:35.039
<v Speaker 7>people listening if you think that you have damage from

1920
01:39:35.119 --> 01:39:39.439
<v Speaker 7>last year's hailstorm, that deadline is coming up quick and

1921
01:39:39.520 --> 01:39:42.119
<v Speaker 7>so you really need someone out there to go check

1922
01:39:42.199 --> 01:39:44.840
<v Speaker 7>and see if you have damage. I would not call

1923
01:39:44.880 --> 01:39:47.439
<v Speaker 7>your adjuster, right, you don't want that claim on your record,

1924
01:39:47.680 --> 01:39:50.840
<v Speaker 7>Give Excel a call three oh three seven six' one

1925
01:39:51.119 --> 01:39:54.039
<v Speaker 7>six four zero. Zero we will send an expert out.

1926
01:39:54.079 --> 01:39:56.560
<v Speaker 7>There they'll do a roof. Evaluation if you do not

1927
01:39:56.800 --> 01:40:00.359
<v Speaker 7>have enough game, claim they're not gonna recommend that to.

1928
01:40:00.399 --> 01:40:02.760
<v Speaker 7>You and if we believe that there is damage and

1929
01:40:02.800 --> 01:40:05.399
<v Speaker 7>the insurance denies, it we are going to fight for.

1930
01:40:05.439 --> 01:40:07.880
<v Speaker 2>You, yeah they will, Too there's no doubt about. It

1931
01:40:08.000 --> 01:40:11.119
<v Speaker 2>so excelroofing dot, Com, scott hold on your.

1932
01:40:11.199 --> 01:40:12.000
<v Speaker 4>Up next.

1933
01:40:17.119 --> 01:40:20.720
<v Speaker 3>Go with a sure Thing denver's best. Roofer excel roofing dot.

1934
01:40:20.760 --> 01:40:21.600
<v Speaker 3>Com you don't.

1935
01:40:21.439 --> 01:40:23.560
<v Speaker 8>Pay a cent until you're content.

1936
01:40:26.520 --> 01:40:29.720
<v Speaker 3>Time for an insurance, checkup, free no obligation in, comparison

1937
01:40:29.840 --> 01:40:33.399
<v Speaker 3>Call Compass insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

1938
01:40:33.399 --> 01:40:36.119
<v Speaker 3>of insurance companies find out now three all three seven

1939
01:40:36.159 --> 01:40:38.520
<v Speaker 3>to seven to one. Help you'll think you're his only

1940
01:40:38.600 --> 01:40:41.079
<v Speaker 3>customer when you Choose frank durand the real Estate man

1941
01:40:41.119 --> 01:40:44.560
<v Speaker 3>dot com to list your home With Remax alliance three

1942
01:40:44.560 --> 01:40:46.479
<v Speaker 3>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty.

1943
01:40:46.479 --> 01:40:56.199
<v Speaker 9>Two ripped of, news need?

1944
01:40:56.199 --> 01:41:04.399
<v Speaker 1>Advissel you don't? Have The shooter's gonna?

1945
01:41:04.439 --> 01:41:10.560
<v Speaker 5>Help come, man this is The Troubleshooter. Show No Tom.

1946
01:41:10.560 --> 01:41:14.399
<v Speaker 2>Martinez welcome my friends to the only show of its,

1947
01:41:14.439 --> 01:41:17.479
<v Speaker 2>guy and we're here to solve, problems answer, questions take.

1948
01:41:17.520 --> 01:41:19.520
<v Speaker 2>Complaints you, know we do it all on this. Show

1949
01:41:19.520 --> 01:41:24.119
<v Speaker 2>we've talked a lot of criminal investigations, today which is pretty. Cool,

1950
01:41:24.199 --> 01:41:26.960
<v Speaker 2>Yeah Joel's. Aaron but any questions you, have we have

1951
01:41:27.039 --> 01:41:30.600
<v Speaker 2>attorneys lined up left and. Right maybe it's about commercial

1952
01:41:30.640 --> 01:41:35.520
<v Speaker 2>real estate or residential or about anything asset. Protection we've

1953
01:41:35.560 --> 01:41:38.520
<v Speaker 2>got great, attorneys great experts in. General one of them

1954
01:41:38.600 --> 01:41:43.039
<v Speaker 2>joins me in studio. Today Henry bratzy's With Excel, roofing

1955
01:41:43.319 --> 01:41:45.479
<v Speaker 2>and we're gonna talk to him about some deals he

1956
01:41:45.560 --> 01:41:48.319
<v Speaker 2>has coming. Up And i'm telling you when you hear these,

1957
01:41:48.359 --> 01:41:50.960
<v Speaker 2>deals you're gonna love. Them and we're not talking like

1958
01:41:51.239 --> 01:41:54.039
<v Speaker 2>ten percent off of, Roof we're not talking. That we're

1959
01:41:54.079 --> 01:41:56.720
<v Speaker 2>talking about a real deal like gutter cleaning for a

1960
01:41:56.800 --> 01:42:00.479
<v Speaker 2>price that is so cheap it's. Crazy and then solar panel.

1961
01:42:00.520 --> 01:42:03.439
<v Speaker 2>Cleaning if you went through the entire think about, This

1962
01:42:03.840 --> 01:42:06.479
<v Speaker 2>if you went through the entire winner for the past

1963
01:42:06.520 --> 01:42:09.399
<v Speaker 2>four or five years and you have not had your

1964
01:42:09.479 --> 01:42:12.560
<v Speaker 2>solar panels, CLEANED i BET i bet you, anything they're

1965
01:42:12.600 --> 01:42:16.399
<v Speaker 2>probably twenty to twenty five percent less. Effective and when

1966
01:42:16.439 --> 01:42:18.800
<v Speaker 2>you hear how cheap it is to clean these things

1967
01:42:19.119 --> 01:42:22.760
<v Speaker 2>only during the show, today only during the, special you're

1968
01:42:22.800 --> 01:42:24.720
<v Speaker 2>going to be amazed by. It so stick. Around we're

1969
01:42:24.720 --> 01:42:27.279
<v Speaker 2>going to talk about. That but any questions you, have

1970
01:42:27.399 --> 01:42:30.840
<v Speaker 2>maybe a bad contractor maybe a bad, Dentist i'll throw

1971
01:42:30.880 --> 01:42:34.640
<v Speaker 2>that out three zero three seven one three eight two five.

1972
01:42:34.800 --> 01:42:37.520
<v Speaker 2>FIVE i actually had one person go. MARK i used

1973
01:42:37.560 --> 01:42:42.000
<v Speaker 2>to say. DENTIST a lot more bad contractor bad, landlord bad.

1974
01:42:42.079 --> 01:42:44.239
<v Speaker 2>Dentists i'll tell you WHY i say. Dentist we had this,

1975
01:42:44.359 --> 01:42:47.760
<v Speaker 2>scumbag and in my, opinion he was a. Scumbag NOW

1976
01:42:47.960 --> 01:42:51.079
<v Speaker 2>i understand his. Position he wasn't getting paid but this

1977
01:42:51.159 --> 01:42:56.000
<v Speaker 2>woman brought her kid in to get. Braces, okay so

1978
01:42:56.159 --> 01:43:00.840
<v Speaker 2>actually an orthodonist gets braces, on she up losing her.

1979
01:43:00.960 --> 01:43:03.199
<v Speaker 2>JOB i don't know if husband's in the, PICTURE i don't,

1980
01:43:03.239 --> 01:43:07.359
<v Speaker 2>remember but the braces as his teeth are, growing he

1981
01:43:07.439 --> 01:43:10.800
<v Speaker 2>was probably twelve, thirteen whatever it. Was as the braces are,

1982
01:43:10.800 --> 01:43:13.359
<v Speaker 2>growing they start digging. In and both my kids had.

1983
01:43:13.359 --> 01:43:15.279
<v Speaker 2>Braces you got to go get him adjusted all the.

1984
01:43:15.319 --> 01:43:18.640
<v Speaker 2>Time if you don't have enough to pay, cash, generally

1985
01:43:18.680 --> 01:43:20.880
<v Speaker 2>what you do is you pay one hundred bucks two

1986
01:43:20.960 --> 01:43:24.000
<v Speaker 2>hundred bucks a month until the braces are. Off that's

1987
01:43:24.119 --> 01:43:28.319
<v Speaker 2>usually how orthodonis. Work so they started digging into his.

1988
01:43:28.399 --> 01:43:31.239
<v Speaker 2>Gums she missed a, payment he wouldn't adjust. Him he

1989
01:43:31.359 --> 01:43:34.119
<v Speaker 2>decided he'd rather keep the thirteen year old in pain

1990
01:43:34.720 --> 01:43:37.159
<v Speaker 2>instead of wait a little. Bit so we got involved

1991
01:43:37.199 --> 01:43:40.159
<v Speaker 2>and we got it. Handled but that's WHY i bring

1992
01:43:40.239 --> 01:43:43.159
<v Speaker 2>up a dentist, sometimes because what kind of? Dirtbag, Now,

1993
01:43:43.199 --> 01:43:46.520
<v Speaker 2>listen he deserves to get, Paid but there's different avenues

1994
01:43:46.600 --> 01:43:50.119
<v Speaker 2>besides the kid having to go through. THAT i, mean

1995
01:43:50.159 --> 01:43:53.239
<v Speaker 2>it's kind of. Crazy, Now, scott you got a problem

1996
01:43:53.279 --> 01:43:56.239
<v Speaker 2>with an evaporative? Cooler what is going on with?

1997
01:43:56.279 --> 01:43:56.439
<v Speaker 6>It?

1998
01:43:57.760 --> 01:44:01.279
<v Speaker 18>Now, Hey, mark thanks for taking my. Call, SURE i

1999
01:44:01.359 --> 01:44:03.680
<v Speaker 18>know on your referral iss you do not have people

2000
01:44:03.680 --> 01:44:06.760
<v Speaker 18>to deal with evaporative coolers on my. ROOF i have

2001
01:44:06.960 --> 01:44:12.640
<v Speaker 18>this brand known as A Breeze air evaporative. Cooler it's

2002
01:44:12.880 --> 01:44:18.039
<v Speaker 18>kind of like The maybock of evaporative, coolers unlike something

2003
01:44:18.039 --> 01:44:20.079
<v Speaker 18>you get at home deepot or. Lows, well, anyway this

2004
01:44:20.119 --> 01:44:23.439
<v Speaker 18>thing is not. Working it's not working this right. Now

2005
01:44:23.479 --> 01:44:26.399
<v Speaker 18>it's deader in the door nail and the COMPANY i

2006
01:44:26.479 --> 01:44:28.760
<v Speaker 18>bought it from it's been up there about eleven. Years

2007
01:44:28.760 --> 01:44:30.840
<v Speaker 18>the COMPANY i bought it from has blown me off

2008
01:44:30.880 --> 01:44:33.359
<v Speaker 18>twice as far as coming out here and looking at.

2009
01:44:33.399 --> 01:44:35.800
<v Speaker 18>It SO i was wondering if somebody in your listening.

2010
01:44:35.840 --> 01:44:39.680
<v Speaker 2>AUDIENCE i THINK i have hold on a second. MAN

2011
01:44:39.840 --> 01:44:45.159
<v Speaker 2>i think we picked somebody up that does that does do,

2012
01:44:45.359 --> 01:44:47.840
<v Speaker 2>that BUT i don't want to give the name out

2013
01:44:47.880 --> 01:44:50.159
<v Speaker 2>if they, don't So i'm kind of looking through their

2014
01:44:50.960 --> 01:44:55.239
<v Speaker 2>listing right. Now i've worked on one of these. Myself

2015
01:44:55.319 --> 01:44:56.640
<v Speaker 2>are you pretty handy, Guy.

2016
01:44:57.199 --> 01:45:01.000
<v Speaker 4>Well let's, see go, ahead you can keep.

2017
01:45:01.039 --> 01:45:03.560
<v Speaker 14>Talking, YEAH i got an electrical.

2018
01:45:03.640 --> 01:45:07.359
<v Speaker 18>Issue i'm pretty, handy but this is kind of outside

2019
01:45:07.359 --> 01:45:10.640
<v Speaker 18>of my yeah soap with this, thing there's something ELECTED

2020
01:45:10.840 --> 01:45:13.439
<v Speaker 18>i have a motor that's gone out or something on.

2021
01:45:13.479 --> 01:45:18.239
<v Speaker 2>It, YEAH i think a man hold. ON i am so, sorry,

2022
01:45:18.239 --> 01:45:20.880
<v Speaker 2>MAN i don't remember if these guys do or.

2023
01:45:20.920 --> 01:45:23.479
<v Speaker 4>Not in for the life of, ME i do not want.

2024
01:45:23.319 --> 01:45:27.399
<v Speaker 2>To give you the name out over the air if

2025
01:45:27.439 --> 01:45:30.560
<v Speaker 2>they don't do, it Because i've done that before and

2026
01:45:30.640 --> 01:45:33.479
<v Speaker 2>it becomes kind of a nightmare for.

2027
01:45:33.640 --> 01:45:37.000
<v Speaker 17>Whoever Deputy bow knows somebody because he spent his whole

2028
01:45:37.079 --> 01:45:37.439
<v Speaker 17>life in THE.

2029
01:45:37.560 --> 01:45:40.159
<v Speaker 2>Hvac oh yeah he. DID i bet, Hey Deputy, bow

2030
01:45:40.239 --> 01:45:43.520
<v Speaker 2>if you're, listening call into the show Or, kelly see

2031
01:45:43.520 --> 01:45:46.640
<v Speaker 2>if you can Get bow real. Quick when did it go?

2032
01:45:46.720 --> 01:45:48.399
<v Speaker 2>Out by the. Way and the other THING i want

2033
01:45:48.439 --> 01:45:50.800
<v Speaker 2>to tell people why a lot of companies don't work

2034
01:45:50.840 --> 01:45:54.079
<v Speaker 2>on these is simply the liability the one sitting up

2035
01:45:54.119 --> 01:45:56.560
<v Speaker 2>on the. Roof you have water going to, them and

2036
01:45:56.640 --> 01:45:59.680
<v Speaker 2>if something goes wrong and it starts, leaking you can

2037
01:45:59.720 --> 01:46:02.079
<v Speaker 2>create ate an issue with a bad tech or a

2038
01:46:02.119 --> 01:46:05.359
<v Speaker 2>technician that screws up to where you, know there's one

2039
01:46:05.439 --> 01:46:10.399
<v Speaker 2>hundred thousand dollars in. Damage people just decided they're not

2040
01:46:10.439 --> 01:46:13.319
<v Speaker 2>gonna mess with him, anymore and a lot of their insurance,

2041
01:46:13.359 --> 01:46:16.920
<v Speaker 2>companies so you understand, Too. SCOTT a lot of the

2042
01:46:17.000 --> 01:46:20.359
<v Speaker 2>insurance companies are, like if you work on the evaporative

2043
01:46:20.399 --> 01:46:23.199
<v Speaker 2>coolers that are on the, roof we're not going to

2044
01:46:23.279 --> 01:46:25.319
<v Speaker 2>insure you for that. Part so they'd have to come

2045
01:46:25.359 --> 01:46:28.560
<v Speaker 2>out of pocket or they'd have to pay up a

2046
01:46:28.720 --> 01:46:33.479
<v Speaker 2>substantial amount of money that it would just be it

2047
01:46:33.680 --> 01:46:36.039
<v Speaker 2>just be. Crazy SO i, mean really that's why they do.

2048
01:46:36.079 --> 01:46:37.880
<v Speaker 2>It but hold, ON i want you to hang on.

2049
01:46:37.960 --> 01:46:41.520
<v Speaker 2>There she's going to try to Get deputy Bow on

2050
01:46:42.039 --> 01:46:44.359
<v Speaker 2>and let's ask. Him And i'm going to call these.

2051
01:46:44.439 --> 01:46:47.720
<v Speaker 2>People if you hang, MAN i PROMISE i think these guys,

2052
01:46:47.800 --> 01:46:50.279
<v Speaker 2>do But i'm going to call And i'm going to

2053
01:46:50.399 --> 01:46:53.000
<v Speaker 2>figure out if they do for sure after. This so

2054
01:46:53.039 --> 01:46:55.800
<v Speaker 2>you guys hold, tight and then whoever's online, too we're

2055
01:46:55.800 --> 01:46:57.439
<v Speaker 2>getting your info and we'll talk to you in a.

2056
01:46:57.479 --> 01:47:02.399
<v Speaker 2>Minute But, henry so to clean soul, panels they get, dirty,

2057
01:47:02.439 --> 01:47:05.960
<v Speaker 2>truly what is the percentage if they're really grimy greasy

2058
01:47:06.000 --> 01:47:08.520
<v Speaker 2>after a few? WINNERS i, mean can it knock them

2059
01:47:08.520 --> 01:47:12.079
<v Speaker 2>out by twenty thirty percent of? EFFICIENCY i don't know the.

2060
01:47:12.119 --> 01:47:15.399
<v Speaker 7>Answer, yeah, Absolutely and that's always a big concern in

2061
01:47:15.439 --> 01:47:18.239
<v Speaker 7>the solar industry is how long are my panels going to. Last,

2062
01:47:18.359 --> 01:47:21.359
<v Speaker 7>Right so a lot of people they overlook exactly what

2063
01:47:21.399 --> 01:47:24.520
<v Speaker 7>they can do to make them more. Efficient and so

2064
01:47:24.640 --> 01:47:26.800
<v Speaker 7>what we offer is we'll go out there and do

2065
01:47:27.039 --> 01:47:31.159
<v Speaker 7>the decontamination rents for fifteen bucks a, panel and that

2066
01:47:31.199 --> 01:47:33.119
<v Speaker 7>will improve the efficiency of the solar.

2067
01:47:33.159 --> 01:47:35.680
<v Speaker 2>Panels they look like new when you're, done OR i,

2068
01:47:35.720 --> 01:47:37.880
<v Speaker 2>mean are they clean as they can? Get, yeah they're

2069
01:47:37.920 --> 01:47:41.359
<v Speaker 2>gonna be pretty. Shiny and then you're fifteen bucks a. Panel,

2070
01:47:41.439 --> 01:47:43.119
<v Speaker 2>yep what's the average array?

2071
01:47:43.239 --> 01:47:48.039
<v Speaker 7>Have the average array is about ten to fifteen to

2072
01:47:48.039 --> 01:47:50.760
<v Speaker 7>twenty panels something like. That and so for a ten panel,

2073
01:47:50.760 --> 01:47:52.680
<v Speaker 7>system one hundred and fifty, bucks, Right.

2074
01:47:52.560 --> 01:47:55.640
<v Speaker 2>So one hundred and fifty. Bucks now there's no other

2075
01:47:55.720 --> 01:47:57.960
<v Speaker 2>fees on top of. That in other, words you don't

2076
01:47:58.039 --> 01:48:01.119
<v Speaker 2>charge to drive out. There it's one hundred and fifty

2077
01:48:01.119 --> 01:48:03.680
<v Speaker 2>bucks if you have ten. Panels, yeah that's.

2078
01:48:03.760 --> 01:48:06.399
<v Speaker 7>That's the rate that we have. Going AND i mean

2079
01:48:06.439 --> 01:48:08.840
<v Speaker 7>really in the scheme of, things you think you'd.

2080
01:48:08.680 --> 01:48:10.840
<v Speaker 2>Be pretty you're people busy man.

2081
01:48:10.840 --> 01:48:13.159
<v Speaker 7>To clean the, panels, right BUT i mean that one

2082
01:48:13.239 --> 01:48:15.720
<v Speaker 7>hundred and fifty bucks if that increases your efficiency for

2083
01:48:15.760 --> 01:48:16.119
<v Speaker 7>a full.

2084
01:48:16.199 --> 01:48:18.600
<v Speaker 2>Year, no here's one hundred and fifty.

2085
01:48:18.640 --> 01:48:19.079
<v Speaker 11>Bucks is.

2086
01:48:19.119 --> 01:48:21.239
<v Speaker 2>Nothing the only reason they're doing this is to keep

2087
01:48:21.279 --> 01:48:25.000
<v Speaker 2>the guys busy till the hailstorms. Come so anybody, listening

2088
01:48:25.039 --> 01:48:27.760
<v Speaker 2>you'd be crazy not to take advantage of. IT i,

2089
01:48:27.760 --> 01:48:30.399
<v Speaker 2>mean you're talking fifteen bucks a. Panel they're going to

2090
01:48:30.439 --> 01:48:32.000
<v Speaker 2>get up there and let's just say what it. Is

2091
01:48:32.039 --> 01:48:34.039
<v Speaker 2>you're going to powerwash the hell out of, it, Right.

2092
01:48:34.279 --> 01:48:36.479
<v Speaker 2>Yeah there's also some special cleaner that we.

2093
01:48:36.600 --> 01:48:37.479
<v Speaker 4>Use it gets the.

2094
01:48:37.520 --> 01:48:40.600
<v Speaker 2>Crime yeah, YEAH i mean they're going to look panels and.

2095
01:48:40.680 --> 01:48:43.840
<v Speaker 2>Like and Like henry, said the other thing is they're

2096
01:48:43.960 --> 01:48:45.840
<v Speaker 2>not only going to look, great but on top of,

2097
01:48:45.880 --> 01:48:47.920
<v Speaker 2>that it's going to be more. Efficient no matter, what

2098
01:48:48.359 --> 01:48:50.560
<v Speaker 2>if they get grimy, enough you might as well put

2099
01:48:50.560 --> 01:48:51.760
<v Speaker 2>a piece of cardboard over.

2100
01:48:51.800 --> 01:48:52.000
<v Speaker 10>Them.

2101
01:48:52.319 --> 01:48:52.600
<v Speaker 4>Yep.

2102
01:48:52.800 --> 01:48:55.319
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely and you know what this reminds. Me last TIME

2103
01:48:55.359 --> 01:48:57.319
<v Speaker 7>i was on the, air we were doing that ninety nine

2104
01:48:57.359 --> 01:48:58.239
<v Speaker 7>dollars gutter cleaning.

2105
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<v Speaker 2>Special yeah, yeah and you know what how many people

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01:49:01.039 --> 01:49:02.079
<v Speaker 2>did we have sign up for?

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01:49:02.119 --> 01:49:04.720
<v Speaker 7>That we had so many people sign up for? That Fifty,

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01:49:04.880 --> 01:49:08.000
<v Speaker 7>yeah like fifty people that day right away we had.

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01:49:08.000 --> 01:49:10.239
<v Speaker 7>That the phone's blowing up and you, KNOW i will

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01:49:10.279 --> 01:49:11.279
<v Speaker 7>do the same thing again.

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01:49:11.359 --> 01:49:14.560
<v Speaker 2>Today, Okay so listen to, this folks And the only

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01:49:14.600 --> 01:49:16.800
<v Speaker 2>REASON i brought it up last time is they come.

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01:49:16.840 --> 01:49:18.479
<v Speaker 2>Out we have pine.

2114
01:49:18.239 --> 01:49:18.840
<v Speaker 4>Needles at our.

2115
01:49:18.840 --> 01:49:21.800
<v Speaker 2>House we're out In franktown and we have trees that

2116
01:49:21.800 --> 01:49:24.439
<v Speaker 2>are one hundred feet and they're. Everywhere it's like living

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01:49:24.479 --> 01:49:26.680
<v Speaker 2>in the. Woods in, fact it is living in the.

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01:49:26.720 --> 01:49:29.840
<v Speaker 2>Woods and what happens this time of, year actually a

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01:49:29.880 --> 01:49:33.399
<v Speaker 2>couple months, ago the pine needles just come. DOWN i

2120
01:49:33.399 --> 01:49:36.239
<v Speaker 2>don't care what gutter GUARDS i have. Tried i've tried,

2121
01:49:36.319 --> 01:49:39.039
<v Speaker 2>Mesh i've tried, everything AND i end up taking them

2122
01:49:39.079 --> 01:49:42.359
<v Speaker 2>off because he's. Stupid pine, needles by the kazillions end

2123
01:49:42.439 --> 01:49:45.239
<v Speaker 2>up going through WHATEVER i, have or they end up

2124
01:49:45.279 --> 01:49:47.600
<v Speaker 2>if you have a, helmet they end up going right

2125
01:49:47.640 --> 01:49:49.760
<v Speaker 2>down with the water and getting. There it just doesn't

2126
01:49:49.760 --> 01:49:52.159
<v Speaker 2>matter WHAT i. Do so FINALLY i took them off

2127
01:49:52.159 --> 01:49:54.520
<v Speaker 2>AND i, Said i'm just gonna Have excel. Out they're

2128
01:49:54.520 --> 01:49:56.119
<v Speaker 2>the ones that did my. Roof i'm going to have

2129
01:49:56.199 --> 01:49:58.760
<v Speaker 2>them out twice a year and they're going to clean my.

2130
01:49:58.840 --> 01:50:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Gutters and they always did it the same. Way if

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01:50:01.800 --> 01:50:04.640
<v Speaker 2>you have one story, house it was one ninety, nine

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01:50:04.880 --> 01:50:08.039
<v Speaker 2>a two story house two ninety, nine AND i guess

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01:50:08.039 --> 01:50:10.319
<v Speaker 2>that's about. IT i, MEAN i maybe if you had

2134
01:50:10.319 --> 01:50:12.680
<v Speaker 2>a three story house three ninety the prices went.

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01:50:12.800 --> 01:50:15.239
<v Speaker 7>Up our standard rate is two ninety, nine and then

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01:50:15.279 --> 01:50:18.039
<v Speaker 7>it goes up to three ninety. NINE i, mean you gotta, remember,

2137
01:50:18.079 --> 01:50:20.600
<v Speaker 7>though that's a fixed. Rate and this is pretty funny. Story,

2138
01:50:20.640 --> 01:50:23.119
<v Speaker 7>actually the last time we ran that special it was,

2139
01:50:23.439 --> 01:50:25.640
<v Speaker 7>Great like we got a bunch of great. Reception we

2140
01:50:25.640 --> 01:50:27.520
<v Speaker 7>went out there cleaned a bunch of people's gutters for

2141
01:50:27.560 --> 01:50:31.079
<v Speaker 7>just ninety nine. Bucks, Right SO i found out that

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01:50:31.199 --> 01:50:33.520
<v Speaker 7>we had one house somewhere In Cherry.

2143
01:50:33.359 --> 01:50:37.399
<v Speaker 2>Hill's that was just Mass oh, yeah, yeah, Yeah Mass

2144
01:50:37.439 --> 01:50:40.159
<v Speaker 2>john always such or. SOMETHING i, mean this thing was.

2145
01:50:40.479 --> 01:50:44.319
<v Speaker 7>Huge it took a full crew of guys how, long.

2146
01:50:44.239 --> 01:50:47.560
<v Speaker 2>All, day all, day and it was just for this

2147
01:50:47.560 --> 01:50:51.239
<v Speaker 2>this one ninety nine bucks for the special price in ninety.

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01:50:51.319 --> 01:50:54.640
<v Speaker 2>Nine AND i don't. KNOW i think the project manager

2149
01:50:54.640 --> 01:50:56.720
<v Speaker 2>gave me a call and was telling me when someone

2150
01:50:57.119 --> 01:51:02.520
<v Speaker 2>got a ten million dollar, house maybe fifteen, million maybe

2151
01:51:02.640 --> 01:51:06.680
<v Speaker 2>twenty million over Where peyton lived In, lway and they

2152
01:51:06.720 --> 01:51:09.279
<v Speaker 2>call up on the Ninety, god bless your, soul And

2153
01:51:09.279 --> 01:51:09.720
<v Speaker 2>i'll tell.

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01:51:09.640 --> 01:51:11.479
<v Speaker 7>You why what we did? IT i do the same

2155
01:51:11.560 --> 01:51:14.560
<v Speaker 7>thing they at least Over. TIP i don't think we got,

2156
01:51:14.600 --> 01:51:18.399
<v Speaker 7>zims but we stuck by our, word we took care

2157
01:51:18.399 --> 01:51:18.920
<v Speaker 7>of you know what it.

2158
01:51:19.079 --> 01:51:22.520
<v Speaker 2>Was it was probably another company that usually comes out

2159
01:51:22.560 --> 01:51:25.520
<v Speaker 2>and does it for a couple thousand that got them

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01:51:25.600 --> 01:51:28.439
<v Speaker 2>to do it out ninety nine and then they put

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01:51:28.520 --> 01:51:29.840
<v Speaker 2>nineteen hundred bucks in their.

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01:51:29.840 --> 01:51:32.319
<v Speaker 7>Pocket just to, remember the amount of people though that

2163
01:51:32.399 --> 01:51:33.720
<v Speaker 7>have a house like that is pretty.

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01:51:33.720 --> 01:51:36.399
<v Speaker 2>Slim so plus you want, listen let's be true. Too

2165
01:51:36.800 --> 01:51:39.399
<v Speaker 2>you went out, there did them a solid for ninety nine.

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01:51:39.439 --> 01:51:41.560
<v Speaker 2>Bucks my got a full crew for a full day

2167
01:51:41.560 --> 01:51:44.319
<v Speaker 2>for a hundred. Bucks if they do have hell, DAMAGE

2168
01:51:44.479 --> 01:51:46.880
<v Speaker 2>i bet they call. You, WELL i sure hope SO

2169
01:51:47.199 --> 01:51:48.520
<v Speaker 2>i would have both shipped you.

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<v Speaker 7>After you know, WHAT i just want to make sure

2171
01:51:50.760 --> 01:51:53.359
<v Speaker 7>everyone list everyone listening knows. This we'll come and clean

2172
01:51:53.359 --> 01:51:53.960
<v Speaker 7>your gutters from.

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01:51:53.880 --> 01:51:55.199
<v Speaker 2>Ninety nine bucks, night and they do.

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01:51:55.239 --> 01:51:55.560
<v Speaker 4>It they.

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01:51:55.600 --> 01:51:57.520
<v Speaker 2>Do it's a commercial. Building it's real.

2176
01:51:57.560 --> 01:52:00.279
<v Speaker 7>Deal we're gonna charge something else because, no, well this

2177
01:52:00.359 --> 01:52:03.960
<v Speaker 7>is for regular this is residential. Homes this isn't multifamily

2178
01:52:04.239 --> 01:52:06.279
<v Speaker 7>if you have a big apartment building or a.

2179
01:52:06.319 --> 01:52:09.359
<v Speaker 2>Complex this is a residential. House and here's what they.

2180
01:52:09.399 --> 01:52:12.239
<v Speaker 2>Do And i've done it with them for three four years.

2181
01:52:12.279 --> 01:52:15.000
<v Speaker 2>Now they come, out they send a crew, out they

2182
01:52:15.039 --> 01:52:17.119
<v Speaker 2>clean the gutters so, well you can't believe. It they

2183
01:52:17.199 --> 01:52:19.920
<v Speaker 2>even get up there with hoses and go down the

2184
01:52:20.039 --> 01:52:23.199
<v Speaker 2>down spouts to make sure the down spouts just flow.

2185
01:52:23.279 --> 01:52:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Perfectly you could go up. There when they're, Done you're

2186
01:52:25.640 --> 01:52:29.560
<v Speaker 2>not gonna find, leaves, dirt. Anything they clean the gutters

2187
01:52:29.640 --> 01:52:32.640
<v Speaker 2>all the way around and for ninety nine. Bucks once,

2188
01:52:32.680 --> 01:52:35.399
<v Speaker 2>again this is what it. Is they're gonna do. It

2189
01:52:35.479 --> 01:52:37.520
<v Speaker 2>and then when there's a hailstorm and you need a,

2190
01:52:37.600 --> 01:52:40.560
<v Speaker 2>roof you're going to Remember excel dig you the solid

2191
01:52:40.600 --> 01:52:42.319
<v Speaker 2>and you're gonna give them a. Call by the, way

2192
01:52:42.920 --> 01:52:45.079
<v Speaker 2>even if when you do get a roof done by,

2193
01:52:45.119 --> 01:52:48.359
<v Speaker 2>them you don't pay them a cent until you're one

2194
01:52:48.439 --> 01:52:51.359
<v Speaker 2>hundred percent. CONTENT i mean you. Can't you can't beat

2195
01:52:51.359 --> 01:52:54.279
<v Speaker 2>them as a. Company they've been In colorado forever in a.

2196
01:52:54.399 --> 01:52:57.880
<v Speaker 2>Day henry's dad started, it how long, ago thirty two.

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01:52:57.960 --> 01:53:01.359
<v Speaker 2>Years in counting thirty two, YEARS i think they're probably

2198
01:53:01.439 --> 01:53:05.000
<v Speaker 2>one of the, largest if not the largest roofer. Here

2199
01:53:05.039 --> 01:53:06.720
<v Speaker 2>and the other thing, is if there ever is a

2200
01:53:06.800 --> 01:53:09.800
<v Speaker 2>warranty issue or maybe a bad run of shingles or,

2201
01:53:09.840 --> 01:53:13.159
<v Speaker 2>something these guys are. Here they're not door. Knockers they

2202
01:53:13.520 --> 01:53:15.920
<v Speaker 2>don't come here sell you a roof then go to

2203
01:53:16.000 --> 01:53:18.960
<v Speaker 2>the next storm In. Texas it just doesn't work that.

2204
01:53:19.039 --> 01:53:21.800
<v Speaker 2>Way that ninety nine bucks is. Incredible hold, on.

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01:53:26.880 --> 01:53:30.479
<v Speaker 3>Go with a sure Thing denver's best Roofer Excel roofing dot.

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01:53:30.479 --> 01:53:36.479
<v Speaker 3>Com you don't pay a cent until you're. Content time

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01:53:36.520 --> 01:53:39.439
<v Speaker 3>for an insurance check up, free no. Obligation in, comparison

2208
01:53:39.560 --> 01:53:43.079
<v Speaker 3>Call Compass insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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<v Speaker 3>of insurance companies find out now three o three seven

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<v Speaker 3>to seven to.

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<v Speaker 6>One.

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<v Speaker 3>Help you'll think you're his only customer when you Choose

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01:53:49.399 --> 01:53:51.920
<v Speaker 3>frank durand the real Estate man dot com to list

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<v Speaker 3>your home With Remax alliance three oh three nine two

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<v Speaker 3>zero sixteen twenty.

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<v Speaker 9>Two all, right.

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<v Speaker 2>Three oh three seven one three eight two five. Five

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01:54:16.720 --> 01:54:21.399
<v Speaker 2>first annual profit For uber was in twenty twenty. Three

2219
01:54:21.479 --> 01:54:24.880
<v Speaker 2>think about. That we're just talking about something. Off it's.

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01:54:24.920 --> 01:54:27.760
<v Speaker 2>Amazing how Like, Amazon uber and all these people that

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01:54:27.920 --> 01:54:30.960
<v Speaker 2>invested in the stock market for these companies for years

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01:54:32.079 --> 01:54:34.920
<v Speaker 2>knew the profit was. Coming look At amazon once the

2223
01:54:34.960 --> 01:54:38.039
<v Speaker 2>profit did. Come oh, man they know how to make.

2224
01:54:38.119 --> 01:54:40.680
<v Speaker 2>Money bezos knows how to make the.

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<v Speaker 4>Big big.

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01:54:42.800 --> 01:54:47.600
<v Speaker 2>Dollars, Now Deputy, Boson, Hey Deputy bow we had a, Caller, Hi,

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01:54:47.760 --> 01:54:52.399
<v Speaker 2>mark Hey, man who do you know that works on swamp? Coolers?

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01:54:53.279 --> 01:54:58.199
<v Speaker 13>Yeah so he the caller specified a breeze air and

2229
01:54:58.239 --> 01:55:01.399
<v Speaker 13>that's kind of an esoteric cadillact swamp.

2230
01:55:01.439 --> 01:55:04.760
<v Speaker 2>Cooler like how much would something like that? Cost? NEW i, mean, like,

2231
01:55:04.840 --> 01:55:07.319
<v Speaker 2>really what's A cadillac swamp cooler?

2232
01:55:07.399 --> 01:55:11.279
<v Speaker 13>Run they're about three times the price of a standard

2233
01:55:11.479 --> 01:55:12.880
<v Speaker 13>uh swamp.

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01:55:12.920 --> 01:55:13.199
<v Speaker 6>Cooler.

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01:55:13.600 --> 01:55:17.199
<v Speaker 13>Wow it as a veritable speed. Motor they're high. Efficient

2236
01:55:17.920 --> 01:55:21.239
<v Speaker 13>so what he has to do is called the factory.

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01:55:21.399 --> 01:55:26.800
<v Speaker 13>Representative they're In. Denver it's CALLED MJ m an.

2238
01:55:26.840 --> 01:55:33.600
<v Speaker 2>ASSOCIATE Mj wait WAIT. Mjm, Yeah Mary, John, mary that's my.

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01:55:33.760 --> 01:55:35.239
<v Speaker 2>Initials those are my.

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<v Speaker 4>Initials.

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01:55:35.960 --> 01:55:38.000
<v Speaker 13>God, well then they need to call you and you

2242
01:55:38.079 --> 01:55:38.720
<v Speaker 13>need to go out.

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01:55:38.680 --> 01:55:39.199
<v Speaker 14>Work on the.

2244
01:55:39.199 --> 01:55:39.520
<v Speaker 13>Cooler.

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01:55:39.560 --> 01:55:42.319
<v Speaker 2>Mind, well that's a great. Point i'll go out there with. You,

2246
01:55:42.439 --> 01:55:45.479
<v Speaker 2>yeah they'll take care of. It, so but they'll have

2247
01:55:45.560 --> 01:55:47.479
<v Speaker 2>a list of people that work on, them.

2248
01:55:47.880 --> 01:55:50.760
<v Speaker 13>Right and those people that work on those scorers have

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01:55:50.840 --> 01:55:51.560
<v Speaker 13>to go to their.

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01:55:51.640 --> 01:55:55.000
<v Speaker 2>Schools he thinks it's an electrical. Issue just from your,

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01:55:55.079 --> 01:55:58.479
<v Speaker 2>background what would you guess it? Was in other, words

2252
01:55:58.479 --> 01:56:01.359
<v Speaker 2>he's saying it's either the motor or no power to.

2253
01:56:01.399 --> 01:56:04.359
<v Speaker 2>IT i would think the. Breaker if the breaker was,

2254
01:56:04.399 --> 01:56:07.159
<v Speaker 2>good it would probably be the, motor, right although the

2255
01:56:07.199 --> 01:56:10.600
<v Speaker 2>way you're describing it with a variable, motor there's probably

2256
01:56:10.600 --> 01:56:11.800
<v Speaker 2>a couple motherboards.

2257
01:56:11.840 --> 01:56:16.720
<v Speaker 13>Involved, yeah as an electrically commutated motor and it's controlled

2258
01:56:16.760 --> 01:56:20.079
<v Speaker 13>by three circuit boards and actually converts it TO. Dc

2259
01:56:20.239 --> 01:56:23.640
<v Speaker 13>they're pretty. Complicated that's why he needs to call the

2260
01:56:23.680 --> 01:56:26.039
<v Speaker 13>RENT i. HAVE i can give the number out on the.

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01:56:26.079 --> 01:56:28.800
<v Speaker 2>Air, yeah go, ahead just go ahead and give it

2262
01:56:28.840 --> 01:56:32.399
<v Speaker 2>out in case that guy's. Listening, yeah so the number three.

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01:56:32.239 --> 01:56:38.079
<v Speaker 13>Oh three seven nine zero seven, thousand and he just

2264
01:56:38.199 --> 01:56:40.600
<v Speaker 13>needs the COLONY v could give him the model. Number

2265
01:56:40.720 --> 01:56:45.239
<v Speaker 13>they have a list of authorized repair people that can

2266
01:56:45.279 --> 01:56:46.640
<v Speaker 13>work on that particular.

2267
01:56:46.800 --> 01:56:47.760
<v Speaker 4>Unit you, know, bo.

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01:56:47.800 --> 01:56:51.399
<v Speaker 2>What's crazy is IF i go back Pre, COVID i

2269
01:56:51.600 --> 01:56:55.720
<v Speaker 2>had fix it twenty four to seven plumb line in

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01:56:55.840 --> 01:56:58.680
<v Speaker 2>about five other companies on our referral list that would

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01:56:58.720 --> 01:57:01.439
<v Speaker 2>all work or at least most of them would work

2272
01:57:01.479 --> 01:57:04.920
<v Speaker 2>on swamp, coolers and almost zero of them. Do now

2273
01:57:05.159 --> 01:57:08.880
<v Speaker 2>the liability has gone absolutely through the roof on. Them

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01:57:09.720 --> 01:57:12.520
<v Speaker 2>do you do you have any insight onto that or

2275
01:57:12.560 --> 01:57:14.399
<v Speaker 2>it's purely what they tell me it's.

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01:57:14.520 --> 01:57:18.600
<v Speaker 13>Damage, well it's because of their potential for water leaks

2277
01:57:18.640 --> 01:57:20.600
<v Speaker 13>because you get the thing on the roof and a

2278
01:57:20.640 --> 01:57:22.840
<v Speaker 13>lot of if you don't look things, upright you could

2279
01:57:22.840 --> 01:57:25.720
<v Speaker 13>cause thousands of dollars of damage from you know that

2280
01:57:25.840 --> 01:57:30.079
<v Speaker 13>quarterage waterline, dripping and you know there's liability if potential

2281
01:57:30.199 --> 01:57:32.239
<v Speaker 13>tests falling off the. Roof because he'd never.

2282
01:57:32.399 --> 01:57:33.600
<v Speaker 2>Fitten go ahead him.

2283
01:57:33.680 --> 01:57:33.800
<v Speaker 11>Right.

2284
01:57:35.159 --> 01:57:38.199
<v Speaker 7>Yeah to add to that comment as a, roofer that's

2285
01:57:38.399 --> 01:57:42.039
<v Speaker 7>often one thing that people determine is a roof leak

2286
01:57:42.119 --> 01:57:44.760
<v Speaker 7>is when their swamp coolers are. Leaking they call us

2287
01:57:44.840 --> 01:57:47.279
<v Speaker 7>up and they tell, us oh my, gosh my whole

2288
01:57:47.359 --> 01:57:51.079
<v Speaker 7>roof is a that with. Water, absolutely especially if we

2289
01:57:51.119 --> 01:57:51.560
<v Speaker 7>install the.

2290
01:57:51.640 --> 01:57:53.960
<v Speaker 2>Roof they call us. Up they think that our install is.

2291
01:57:53.960 --> 01:57:56.840
<v Speaker 7>Failing we get up, there the swamp cooler is just

2292
01:57:57.079 --> 01:57:58.279
<v Speaker 7>dumping water straight.

2293
01:57:59.079 --> 01:58:01.760
<v Speaker 2>Henri so like when you get a hail claim and

2294
01:58:01.800 --> 01:58:04.880
<v Speaker 2>you get up there and there's a swamp, cooler do

2295
01:58:05.000 --> 01:58:07.279
<v Speaker 2>your people take it off or how does that or

2296
01:58:07.319 --> 01:58:09.720
<v Speaker 2>do you hire an outside? Company how does that work

2297
01:58:10.760 --> 01:58:14.159
<v Speaker 2>so we can detach and reset. It we'll use a

2298
01:58:14.199 --> 01:58:16.520
<v Speaker 2>sub for. That, yeah, okay, YEAH i mean really you're

2299
01:58:16.600 --> 01:58:19.600
<v Speaker 2>using a plumber or whoever you're comfortable with to make

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01:58:19.640 --> 01:58:21.000
<v Speaker 2>sure it's not, Leaking.

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01:58:20.840 --> 01:58:23.239
<v Speaker 7>Yeah depending on how it's, attached, right like if it's

2302
01:58:23.279 --> 01:58:25.840
<v Speaker 7>got a bunch of fasteners and waterlines to. It, Yeah

2303
01:58:25.880 --> 01:58:27.359
<v Speaker 7>and we don't want to we don't want to mess with.

2304
01:58:27.399 --> 01:58:29.800
<v Speaker 7>It but usually what will happen is we'll do the

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01:58:29.880 --> 01:58:32.359
<v Speaker 7>roof one two three years later they'll call us up

2306
01:58:32.399 --> 01:58:35.239
<v Speaker 7>saying that there's a roof. Leak, well, actually, yeah it's

2307
01:58:35.239 --> 01:58:38.359
<v Speaker 7>a mechanical mechanical failure and it looks like a roof.

2308
01:58:38.439 --> 01:58:42.640
<v Speaker 7>Leak and that's a really good point because those are big.

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01:58:42.680 --> 01:58:46.239
<v Speaker 2>Problems, hey, hey, bo why my buddy his name Was

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01:58:46.319 --> 01:58:48.279
<v Speaker 2>larry and he. Passed BUT i mean he was a

2311
01:58:48.319 --> 01:58:51.000
<v Speaker 2>really good friend of. Mine he had a place In

2312
01:58:51.079 --> 01:58:54.560
<v Speaker 2>littleton and he had a swamp cooler and that thing worked,

2313
01:58:54.560 --> 01:58:58.319
<v Speaker 2>great but it was on like his back. Patio why

2314
01:58:58.479 --> 01:59:00.920
<v Speaker 2>are they on the. ROOF i don't quite understand. That

2315
01:59:01.079 --> 01:59:02.840
<v Speaker 2>is there a science reason for?

2316
01:59:02.960 --> 01:59:07.279
<v Speaker 13>That, well bear swamp, coole the evaporative cop works on direct,

2317
01:59:07.319 --> 01:59:11.000
<v Speaker 13>sunlight and then on the roof you get four, sides got.

2318
01:59:11.039 --> 01:59:13.640
<v Speaker 2>It compared to the, backside you're.

2319
01:59:13.520 --> 01:59:16.000
<v Speaker 13>Only getting one. Side and if they have hooked up

2320
01:59:16.039 --> 01:59:17.920
<v Speaker 13>the core on the side of the, house you're only

2321
01:59:17.920 --> 01:59:21.119
<v Speaker 13>getting like fifty percent efficiency because the sun that's not

2322
01:59:21.600 --> 01:59:24.279
<v Speaker 13>the cooler's. Work when they get the most direct, sunlight

2323
01:59:24.359 --> 01:59:25.239
<v Speaker 13>that's what causes the.

2324
01:59:25.279 --> 01:59:28.319
<v Speaker 14>Evaporation that's it don't work well.

2325
01:59:28.119 --> 01:59:29.000
<v Speaker 13>Along the side of the.

2326
01:59:29.039 --> 01:59:32.439
<v Speaker 2>House, yeah so His. Henry this is. FUNNY a buddy

2327
01:59:32.439 --> 01:59:36.239
<v Speaker 2>of mine gave me some movie. Bills SO i had

2328
01:59:36.279 --> 01:59:39.520
<v Speaker 2>a stack of ten thousand fake, hundreds and they, say

2329
01:59:39.560 --> 01:59:41.560
<v Speaker 2>you know they look, real but if, YOU i mean,

2330
01:59:41.640 --> 01:59:44.600
<v Speaker 2>really you'd never pass them off. Anywhere they're for. Movies

2331
01:59:45.119 --> 01:59:49.800
<v Speaker 2>and his, Daughter bo's daughter was babysitting our dogs or

2332
01:59:49.880 --> 01:59:52.359
<v Speaker 2>house sitting for us when we went To nashville about

2333
01:59:52.359 --> 01:59:55.560
<v Speaker 2>a week, ago and my friend brought me over this

2334
01:59:55.560 --> 01:59:59.560
<v Speaker 2>this stack of fake, money and basically we were just

2335
01:59:59.640 --> 02:00:01.600
<v Speaker 2>laughing about, it AND i put it down then we.

2336
02:00:01.680 --> 02:00:05.039
<v Speaker 2>Left the next, day she shows. Up she thinks it's real,

2337
02:00:05.159 --> 02:00:08.039
<v Speaker 2>money and like we're testing her to see if she'll

2338
02:00:08.319 --> 02:00:11.760
<v Speaker 2>take ten thousand dollars or something. Strange but she called

2339
02:00:11.800 --> 02:00:14.359
<v Speaker 2>even after you told her it was, Fake, bo she kept,

2340
02:00:14.439 --> 02:00:15.359
<v Speaker 2>calling didn't.

2341
02:00:15.119 --> 02:00:16.720
<v Speaker 6>She she called me.

2342
02:00:16.840 --> 02:00:20.199
<v Speaker 13>Twice she was very worried she wouldn't touch the, money

2343
02:00:20.479 --> 02:00:23.840
<v Speaker 13>and she kept me Picking AND i was fooled by

2344
02:00:23.880 --> 02:00:25.199
<v Speaker 13>it too TILL i blew it.

2345
02:00:25.319 --> 02:00:27.920
<v Speaker 2>Up, well and here's the. PROBLEM i thought about. THIS

2346
02:00:28.119 --> 02:00:30.680
<v Speaker 2>i left it there just not thinking about. It we've

2347
02:00:30.720 --> 02:00:33.800
<v Speaker 2>had painters in the, House we've had our maids in the.

2348
02:00:33.880 --> 02:00:36.840
<v Speaker 2>HOUSE i bet everybody is, going what the hell is?

2349
02:00:36.840 --> 02:00:39.239
<v Speaker 2>This so FINALLY i just threw it in our junk, drawer.

2350
02:00:39.279 --> 02:00:41.920
<v Speaker 7>Especially, nowadays because like when you see a stock of

2351
02:00:41.960 --> 02:00:45.359
<v Speaker 7>ten thousand, dollars it really looks. SUBSTANTIAL i mean me,

2352
02:00:45.479 --> 02:00:48.039
<v Speaker 7>PERSONALLY i pay everything on a credit. Card, Right it's

2353
02:00:48.079 --> 02:00:51.359
<v Speaker 7>all electronic, now so ANYTIME i, have, like you, know some,

2354
02:00:51.520 --> 02:00:53.600
<v Speaker 7>cash maybe all get paid for a roof in. Cash,

2355
02:00:53.760 --> 02:00:57.039
<v Speaker 7>yeah it feels so much more than a. Check that's

2356
02:00:57.079 --> 02:00:57.720
<v Speaker 7>four times the.

2357
02:00:57.760 --> 02:01:00.600
<v Speaker 2>Amount. Sure so what my buddy did and why he

2358
02:01:00.640 --> 02:01:04.439
<v Speaker 2>brought it over is he does these. Experiments we'll be

2359
02:01:04.600 --> 02:01:07.520
<v Speaker 2>like in a casino and he'll put this fake bill

2360
02:01:07.960 --> 02:01:11.600
<v Speaker 2>down by one of the slot machines to see who

2361
02:01:11.680 --> 02:01:14.039
<v Speaker 2>tries to sneak it and pick it up without turning

2362
02:01:14.039 --> 02:01:17.079
<v Speaker 2>it into, security or at a restaurant Or the latest

2363
02:01:17.239 --> 02:01:20.000
<v Speaker 2>was at an airport In. Nashville we were At, Denver

2364
02:01:20.079 --> 02:01:23.600
<v Speaker 2>dia flying To, nashville and we were in The Capitol One.

2365
02:01:23.720 --> 02:01:28.079
<v Speaker 2>Club it's an airport club and basically what happens. There, hey,

2366
02:01:28.159 --> 02:01:30.920
<v Speaker 2>BO i really appreciate you coming on and giving that.

2367
02:01:31.000 --> 02:01:34.479
<v Speaker 2>Information so he puts it down right behind a lady

2368
02:01:35.199 --> 02:01:38.640
<v Speaker 2>and one of the people that are a server in

2369
02:01:38.800 --> 02:01:43.359
<v Speaker 2>the club walks by and takes her foot and skirts

2370
02:01:43.399 --> 02:01:46.640
<v Speaker 2>it over behind the wall and then picks it up and.

2371
02:01:46.760 --> 02:01:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Leaves so instead of, saying, hey did you drop this?

2372
02:01:50.119 --> 02:01:54.319
<v Speaker 2>Money absolutely. Nothing And i'll tell you, what with the

2373
02:01:54.399 --> 02:01:57.079
<v Speaker 2>exception of the, casino he does it all the. Time

2374
02:01:57.159 --> 02:01:59.720
<v Speaker 2>i'm only with him maybe once every two, months if

2375
02:01:59.760 --> 02:02:01.800
<v Speaker 2>i'll of the four of us are getting, together but

2376
02:02:02.800 --> 02:02:05.920
<v Speaker 2>only one, time and that was in the. Casino because in,

2377
02:02:06.000 --> 02:02:08.319
<v Speaker 2>casinos if you find, money you got to turn them

2378
02:02:08.319 --> 02:02:11.359
<v Speaker 2>in or else you're like in big, trouble, man like big.

2379
02:02:11.399 --> 02:02:16.600
<v Speaker 2>Trouble so in the, casino the person we saw ten

2380
02:02:16.640 --> 02:02:18.920
<v Speaker 2>people walk by and see it wanting to pick it.

2381
02:02:19.039 --> 02:02:21.600
<v Speaker 2>Up no one touched, it and then one of them

2382
02:02:21.680 --> 02:02:24.920
<v Speaker 2>must have called, security because then like three security guards

2383
02:02:24.960 --> 02:02:27.000
<v Speaker 2>come over and they're all looking at it and they

2384
02:02:27.000 --> 02:02:28.279
<v Speaker 2>pick it, up AND.

2385
02:02:28.479 --> 02:02:30.439
<v Speaker 4>I don't know what they did with. It it's.

2386
02:02:30.479 --> 02:02:32.560
<v Speaker 2>Crazy it's a great social. Experiment.

2387
02:02:32.560 --> 02:02:35.000
<v Speaker 7>Absolutely i'm just, thinking like IF i was to vet

2388
02:02:35.319 --> 02:02:38.520
<v Speaker 7>a house, cleaner. RIGHT i think it would probably be

2389
02:02:38.560 --> 02:02:41.039
<v Speaker 7>a good idea to just leave some cash around, you real,

2390
02:02:41.119 --> 02:02:43.199
<v Speaker 7>cash and then see if they take it. Right, yeah

2391
02:02:43.239 --> 02:02:45.159
<v Speaker 7>and so then you really know if you can trust.

2392
02:02:45.239 --> 02:02:48.720
<v Speaker 2>Them, yeah that's, true or they play the long game

2393
02:02:49.000 --> 02:02:50.039
<v Speaker 2>and just steal your house.

2394
02:02:50.039 --> 02:02:50.479
<v Speaker 4>Hold on.

2395
02:02:55.960 --> 02:02:59.520
<v Speaker 3>Go with a sure Thing denver's best roofer excel roofing dot.

2396
02:02:59.600 --> 02:03:01.520
<v Speaker 8>Com you don't pay a cent until you're.

2397
02:03:01.560 --> 02:03:07.800
<v Speaker 3>Content time for an insurance check up free no obligation

2398
02:03:07.920 --> 02:03:11.800
<v Speaker 3>comparison Call Compass insurance paying too much your coverage at

2399
02:03:11.840 --> 02:03:14.560
<v Speaker 3>dozens of insurance companies find out now three oh three

2400
02:03:14.720 --> 02:03:17.319
<v Speaker 3>seven seven to one. Help you'll think you're his only

2401
02:03:17.399 --> 02:03:19.880
<v Speaker 3>customer when you Choose frank durand the real Estate man

2402
02:03:19.920 --> 02:03:23.319
<v Speaker 3>dot com to list your home With Remax alliance three

2403
02:03:23.399 --> 02:03:25.279
<v Speaker 3>oh three nine two zero sixteen twenty.

2404
02:03:25.319 --> 02:03:30.880
<v Speaker 2>Two all right three o three seven one three eight

2405
02:03:30.920 --> 02:03:33.239
<v Speaker 2>two five. Five if you didn't hear the, deal we're

2406
02:03:33.239 --> 02:03:35.640
<v Speaker 2>going to recap it right. Now deal of the. Day

2407
02:03:35.680 --> 02:03:38.920
<v Speaker 2>and it's. Unbelievable i've been Having excel. Roofing you know,

2408
02:03:39.000 --> 02:03:41.479
<v Speaker 2>what DO i get a refund on the full Price

2409
02:03:41.560 --> 02:03:43.840
<v Speaker 2>i've been? Spending CAN i do? That will you do?

2410
02:03:43.880 --> 02:03:43.960
<v Speaker 11>That?

2411
02:03:44.079 --> 02:03:48.560
<v Speaker 2>Henry that's a no refund for What i've been paying

2412
02:03:48.640 --> 02:03:51.680
<v Speaker 2>two ninety nine or three ninety nine to have my gutters.

2413
02:03:51.720 --> 02:03:54.920
<v Speaker 2>Claimed now you're saying it's only ninety nine dollars for

2414
02:03:55.000 --> 02:03:57.520
<v Speaker 2>people they call today or tomorrow or if they hear

2415
02:03:57.560 --> 02:04:00.279
<v Speaker 2>this on the. Podcast so When i'm asking, you for

2416
02:04:00.359 --> 02:04:03.399
<v Speaker 2>the past four, YEARS i have SPENT i think three

2417
02:04:03.520 --> 02:04:06.720
<v Speaker 2>ninety nine or two ninety nine twice a year for

2418
02:04:06.760 --> 02:04:08.680
<v Speaker 2>you guys to come out and clean my gutters In.

2419
02:04:08.720 --> 02:04:11.880
<v Speaker 2>Franktown so What i'm saying is that's two four six

2420
02:04:12.239 --> 02:04:17.039
<v Speaker 2>eight times. Three that's twenty four hundred where it should

2421
02:04:17.039 --> 02:04:20.319
<v Speaker 2>have only been two four six. Eight will you give

2422
02:04:20.359 --> 02:04:21.319
<v Speaker 2>me twenty two hundred?

2423
02:04:21.319 --> 02:04:25.920
<v Speaker 7>Dollars, WELL i think we could factor some stuff into this, equation, right,

2424
02:04:26.039 --> 02:04:28.159
<v Speaker 7>yeah the ads. GAME i think we could figure out

2425
02:04:28.239 --> 02:04:28.600
<v Speaker 7>some trade.

2426
02:04:28.640 --> 02:04:29.319
<v Speaker 4>Out oh that's.

2427
02:04:29.359 --> 02:04:33.039
<v Speaker 2>True that was fun actually on your. Birthday hey seriously, though, folks,

2428
02:04:33.079 --> 02:04:36.199
<v Speaker 2>listen ninety nine bucks and that's for a one or

2429
02:04:36.279 --> 02:04:38.359
<v Speaker 2>two story residential.

2430
02:04:37.840 --> 02:04:40.760
<v Speaker 7>Yep and so ninety nine dollars for a residential. Home,

2431
02:04:40.840 --> 02:04:44.840
<v Speaker 7>right this is no commercial? Buildings, yeah, yeah nothing, insane,

2432
02:04:44.920 --> 02:04:46.800
<v Speaker 7>Right so if it's a big, hoa that does not.

2433
02:04:46.880 --> 02:04:50.000
<v Speaker 7>Apply so ninety nine bucks Call excel THREE zho three

2434
02:04:50.159 --> 02:04:53.119
<v Speaker 7>seven six one at sixty four zero. Zero we are

2435
02:04:53.159 --> 02:04:54.960
<v Speaker 7>also doing a solar panel.

2436
02:04:55.079 --> 02:04:56.279
<v Speaker 2>Cleaning that's right.

2437
02:04:56.359 --> 02:04:58.840
<v Speaker 7>Deal so we go up there and we do a decon.

2438
02:04:59.119 --> 02:05:01.319
<v Speaker 7>Wash we take care of the. Panels it'll make them

2439
02:05:01.319 --> 02:05:03.159
<v Speaker 7>a lot more, efficient, right you don't want to lose

2440
02:05:03.199 --> 02:05:06.319
<v Speaker 7>that efficiency just because they're. Dirty it's usually, overlooked but

2441
02:05:06.359 --> 02:05:08.359
<v Speaker 7>it does. Happen so we'll go out there and we

2442
02:05:08.399 --> 02:05:11.000
<v Speaker 7>will clean each panel for fifteen. Bucks it's three oh

2443
02:05:11.119 --> 02:05:13.960
<v Speaker 7>three seven sixty one six four zero.

2444
02:05:14.039 --> 02:05:16.960
<v Speaker 2>Zero there's your big roofing. Supplier do you guys use just?

2445
02:05:17.039 --> 02:05:19.560
<v Speaker 2>ONE i, MEAN i know there's different, products like the

2446
02:05:19.600 --> 02:05:22.520
<v Speaker 2>one you sold me is F, Wave but as far

2447
02:05:22.600 --> 02:05:26.720
<v Speaker 2>as the general the general supplier you?

2448
02:05:26.840 --> 02:05:27.399
<v Speaker 4>Use who is?

2449
02:05:27.439 --> 02:05:31.479
<v Speaker 7>It so there's a supplier in a, manufacturer, right so

2450
02:05:31.600 --> 02:05:35.439
<v Speaker 7>our go to. SUPPLIER i personally really Like pacific and

2451
02:05:35.479 --> 02:05:37.880
<v Speaker 7>that's WHERE i pushed a lot of our Business pacific.

2452
02:05:37.920 --> 02:05:39.680
<v Speaker 2>Supply and why is? That why do you like?

2453
02:05:39.760 --> 02:05:41.640
<v Speaker 7>Them you know there's a lot of, companies, Right there's

2454
02:05:41.680 --> 02:05:44.039
<v Speaker 7>LIKE abc and like Golf. Eegel there's a lot of

2455
02:05:44.039 --> 02:05:47.640
<v Speaker 7>these big distribution. Houses but their service it just it

2456
02:05:47.640 --> 02:05:51.199
<v Speaker 7>doesn't quite line up to what they what they, claim,

2457
02:05:51.319 --> 02:05:54.439
<v Speaker 7>right So, pacific we really Like. Pacific there are safeties

2458
02:05:54.479 --> 02:05:56.680
<v Speaker 7>at a high. Standard they take care of, us which

2459
02:05:56.680 --> 02:05:59.000
<v Speaker 7>allows us to take care of our. Customers and the

2460
02:05:59.039 --> 02:06:03.239
<v Speaker 7>same thing goes With Owen's. Corning Owen's corning is a fantastic.

2461
02:06:03.399 --> 02:06:07.119
<v Speaker 7>Manufacturer they take care of, warranties, Right we take care

2462
02:06:07.319 --> 02:06:09.600
<v Speaker 7>of our. Roofs we go back out and we want

2463
02:06:09.600 --> 02:06:12.800
<v Speaker 7>to repair anything that's, leaking anything that. Fails it happens,

2464
02:06:12.880 --> 02:06:14.920
<v Speaker 7>rarely but we want to make sure we partner with

2465
02:06:14.960 --> 02:06:16.119
<v Speaker 7>people that have that same.

2466
02:06:16.159 --> 02:06:19.960
<v Speaker 4>Mindsel so if it's a problem with the shingle, Itself

2467
02:06:20.159 --> 02:06:22.720
<v Speaker 4>owens steps straight up and pays you, Guys.

2468
02:06:22.439 --> 02:06:24.640
<v Speaker 7>And you know what That's it's hard to find people

2469
02:06:24.720 --> 02:06:28.159
<v Speaker 7>like that because, nowadays all these, manufacturers all these, companies

2470
02:06:28.159 --> 02:06:29.760
<v Speaker 7>they'll tell you that they're going to step up to

2471
02:06:29.760 --> 02:06:32.000
<v Speaker 7>the plate and deal with. It but you really find

2472
02:06:32.000 --> 02:06:34.279
<v Speaker 7>out what people are made of when something goes. Wrong

2473
02:06:34.520 --> 02:06:37.760
<v Speaker 7>And Owen's corning stands behind their warranties and they take

2474
02:06:37.800 --> 02:06:38.119
<v Speaker 7>care of.

2475
02:06:38.159 --> 02:06:41.479
<v Speaker 2>People you, KNOW i was talking Or demetri AND I

2476
02:06:41.920 --> 02:06:45.119
<v Speaker 2>we're talking To henry during the. Break so it's kind

2477
02:06:45.119 --> 02:06:47.119
<v Speaker 2>of strange he's going to be in the roofing, business

2478
02:06:47.199 --> 02:06:50.399
<v Speaker 2>probably his whole. Life he was born into. It you,

2479
02:06:50.439 --> 02:06:53.239
<v Speaker 2>Know Jay bretts has been coming on. HERE i don't

2480
02:06:53.279 --> 02:06:56.079
<v Speaker 2>Remember jay not being, Here SO i mean we're talking

2481
02:06:56.159 --> 02:06:59.600
<v Speaker 2>twenty plus. Years and then you, know now you're in

2482
02:06:59.640 --> 02:07:02.760
<v Speaker 2>your two you're basically running the, company and you were

2483
02:07:02.800 --> 02:07:07.199
<v Speaker 2>talking interestingly, ENOUGH i was telling the story When suzanne

2484
02:07:07.239 --> 02:07:11.159
<v Speaker 2>AND i owned our cake. ROUTE i was probably nineteen,

2485
02:07:11.199 --> 02:07:15.119
<v Speaker 2>actually and she was, sixteen and we owned a cake Route, Untils,

2486
02:07:15.119 --> 02:07:17.840
<v Speaker 2>oklahoma where we would go and sell our. Cakes and

2487
02:07:17.880 --> 02:07:21.279
<v Speaker 2>these cakes were made by a massive. Bakery basically anything

2488
02:07:21.399 --> 02:07:23.840
<v Speaker 2>host is, sold we would, sell but we had a

2489
02:07:23.880 --> 02:07:25.760
<v Speaker 2>private label on. It so we would go work the

2490
02:07:25.840 --> 02:07:30.640
<v Speaker 2>stores and everybody thought we were brother and, sister which is,

2491
02:07:30.720 --> 02:07:33.800
<v Speaker 2>crazy and they thought we worked for our, parents and

2492
02:07:33.960 --> 02:07:37.239
<v Speaker 2>none of that was. True AND i was always afraid

2493
02:07:37.279 --> 02:07:39.760
<v Speaker 2>to actually tell people that because we were so. Young

2494
02:07:40.119 --> 02:07:42.079
<v Speaker 2>they'd be, like why are we doing business with a

2495
02:07:42.119 --> 02:07:42.720
<v Speaker 2>sixteen year?

2496
02:07:42.720 --> 02:07:43.560
<v Speaker 4>OLD i, mean it would be.

2497
02:07:43.560 --> 02:07:46.560
<v Speaker 2>Insane and then you brought Up, henry and it's a great.

2498
02:07:46.640 --> 02:07:50.039
<v Speaker 2>Story the same thing happened to. You you decided to

2499
02:07:50.119 --> 02:07:55.439
<v Speaker 2>start sourcing bicycle grips for like mountain bikes or any

2500
02:07:55.520 --> 02:07:59.119
<v Speaker 2>kind of bike and you sourced them From, china because

2501
02:07:59.199 --> 02:08:02.119
<v Speaker 2>every time you'd go to replace, yours they were thirty.

2502
02:08:02.159 --> 02:08:05.199
<v Speaker 2>Bucks and you figured out you could make these or

2503
02:08:05.239 --> 02:08:08.039
<v Speaker 2>buy these things out Of china for three. Bucks and

2504
02:08:08.159 --> 02:08:11.000
<v Speaker 2>you knocked down the door of one, hundred two, hundred three,

2505
02:08:11.119 --> 02:08:15.960
<v Speaker 2>hundred four hundred different bike shops around the states around

2506
02:08:16.079 --> 02:08:18.960
<v Speaker 2>us selling. Them that's how old were you when you were?

2507
02:08:18.960 --> 02:08:19.199
<v Speaker 4>Doing?

2508
02:08:19.279 --> 02:08:21.840
<v Speaker 7>That was my business In denver WHEN i was, sixteen

2509
02:08:22.039 --> 02:08:24.479
<v Speaker 7>AND i think the the old Man, jay he really

2510
02:08:24.560 --> 02:08:26.840
<v Speaker 7>wanted to do a see WHAT i, was you, know

2511
02:08:27.159 --> 02:08:29.560
<v Speaker 7>able to? Handle SO i ordered a bunch of these

2512
02:08:29.600 --> 02:08:32.239
<v Speaker 7>grips From. CHINA i realized the margin was. There it

2513
02:08:32.279 --> 02:08:34.439
<v Speaker 7>was OVER. Covid so that was one thing that was

2514
02:08:34.479 --> 02:08:34.920
<v Speaker 7>going for.

2515
02:08:34.960 --> 02:08:35.039
<v Speaker 13>Me.

2516
02:08:35.159 --> 02:08:37.800
<v Speaker 7>Yeah AND i would do these consignments to like shops

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<v Speaker 7>all across the.

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<v Speaker 2>Country he'd worked.

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<v Speaker 7>Shelves i'd load my my car up with all these

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<v Speaker 7>boxes of grips AND i would go to all these

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<v Speaker 7>bike shops and do the consignment. Deals AND i got

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<v Speaker 7>up TO i had all a majority of the shops In,

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<v Speaker 7>Colorado New, Mexico arizona love. It AND i had hundreds

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<v Speaker 7>of accounts across this side of the. COUNTRY i had

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<v Speaker 7>two sales, reps and you, KNOW i got good at.

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<v Speaker 7>It there was a time, THOUGH i was in In

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<v Speaker 7>New mexico right AND i couldn't find a, hotel SO

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<v Speaker 7>i had to sleep in my car BECAUSE i kept

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<v Speaker 7>getting denied for hotels with a bunch of bike, grips

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<v Speaker 7>and it was like Downtown.

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<v Speaker 2>Albuquerque oh. Nice i'll never forget, that, nil never forget that.

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<v Speaker 2>Night you, KNOW i won't even stop In. ALBUQUERQUE i

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<v Speaker 2>drive through. It, man If i'm going To, phoenix, Literally

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<v Speaker 2>i'll stop In Santa fe and then we will cruise

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<v Speaker 2>cruise Through. Albuquerque you, KNOW i love the way your

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<v Speaker 2>parents raised. You We suzanne AND i were very similar

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<v Speaker 2>with our. Kids if they didn't have something going, on

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02:09:37.079 --> 02:09:40.079
<v Speaker 2>we made something going. On when they went into taekwondo

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<v Speaker 2>with three years, old they were not allowed to. Quit

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<v Speaker 2>we taught it just like, school like high. School and you,

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<v Speaker 2>know over the years they wanted to quit all the.

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<v Speaker 2>Time it didn't. Matter it was just like. School when

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<v Speaker 2>it came to sixteen and getting a, car we got

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02:09:53.560 --> 02:09:54.920
<v Speaker 2>them a. Car but they had to.

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<v Speaker 6>Work.

2546
02:09:55.279 --> 02:09:58.560
<v Speaker 2>Period when they had jobs and they were still living

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02:09:58.640 --> 02:10:01.239
<v Speaker 2>under our, roof half of every nickel they made they

2548
02:10:01.239 --> 02:10:03.600
<v Speaker 2>had to put into savings and it was just a

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02:10:03.640 --> 02:10:06.680
<v Speaker 2>regiment and it's stuck with. Them AND i love. That

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02:10:06.720 --> 02:10:08.399
<v Speaker 2>AND i can tell your parents did that with.

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<v Speaker 4>You, Man it's.

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<v Speaker 2>Awesome, yeah WELL i know, that especially when my dad's

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<v Speaker 2>a harder, Parent jay or your. Mom oh my dad for, Sure.

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<v Speaker 6>Jay.

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<v Speaker 7>Yeah, absolutely when he got into this, business he had

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<v Speaker 7>to struggle really really.

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<v Speaker 11>Hard.

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<v Speaker 7>COURSE i know that he wanted to put me through

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02:10:23.319 --> 02:10:25.800
<v Speaker 7>some of, that AND i have certainly gone through a

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<v Speaker 7>lot of, that.

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<v Speaker 4>And by, design most likely.

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<v Speaker 7>He's told me stories about when he was In, texas

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<v Speaker 7>so his just quick rundown through his. Story he started

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<v Speaker 7>roofing In denver.

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<v Speaker 2>And hold, on hold, on let me take. THIS i

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02:10:36.199 --> 02:10:37.359
<v Speaker 2>do want to hear. It till hold on.

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<v Speaker 3>Content time for an insurance checkup free no obligation comparison

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<v Speaker 3>Call Compass insurance paying too much your coverage at dozens

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<v Speaker 3>to seven one. Help you'll think you're his only customer

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<v Speaker 3>when You frank durand the real Estate man Dot com

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<v Speaker 3>to list your home With Remax alliance three oh three

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<v Speaker 2>Right three oh three seven one THREE a two five.

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<v Speaker 2>Five we're coming to the end to another day right

2578
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2579
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2580
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2585
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2586
02:11:45.720 --> 02:11:48.000
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2587
02:11:48.079 --> 02:11:50.159
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2588
02:11:50.199 --> 02:11:52.479
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02:11:52.880 --> 02:11:57.239
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02:11:57.439 --> 02:12:00.720
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<v Speaker 2>Com and it really doesn't matter what kind of problem you.

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02:12:03.199 --> 02:12:05.399
<v Speaker 2>Have AND i think today kind of shows you that

2593
02:12:05.479 --> 02:12:08.880
<v Speaker 2>we had everything from people's sixteen year old kids getting

2594
02:12:08.960 --> 02:12:12.239
<v Speaker 2>arrested that was pretty, interesting all the way up to

2595
02:12:12.319 --> 02:12:16.359
<v Speaker 2>another guy that. Leveled what did he? Say? There guys

2596
02:12:16.439 --> 02:12:17.600
<v Speaker 2>laid out dropped.

2597
02:12:17.680 --> 02:12:18.399
<v Speaker 4>Him what did he?

2598
02:12:18.479 --> 02:12:20.880
<v Speaker 2>Say what word did he? Say his word was. LEVELED

2599
02:12:20.880 --> 02:12:23.600
<v Speaker 2>i leveled the, guy he leveled. Him he leveled basically

2600
02:12:23.680 --> 02:12:27.960
<v Speaker 2>on list slapped him and leveled the bum bitch slapped.

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02:12:28.000 --> 02:12:30.079
<v Speaker 2>HIM i mean basically that's what he was. Saying almost

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02:12:30.159 --> 02:12:33.520
<v Speaker 2>knocked him. Out and but but we also learned The

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02:12:33.520 --> 02:12:37.840
<v Speaker 2>Colorado Springs police if you're literally getting robbed and call

2604
02:12:37.920 --> 02:12:40.680
<v Speaker 2>him and call, them they might not show up for four,

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02:12:40.720 --> 02:12:43.319
<v Speaker 2>hours even though you're watching it by. Video and if

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02:12:43.359 --> 02:12:45.239
<v Speaker 2>you don't know What i'm talking, about go back and

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02:12:45.279 --> 02:12:47.840
<v Speaker 2>listen on the. Podcast it's the craziest thing.

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<v Speaker 6>Ever.

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<v Speaker 2>Listen my Name's Mark. Major we'll be here tomorrow solving,

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02:12:51.960 --> 02:12:56.600
<v Speaker 2>problems answering, questions and taking your complaints right here on

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<v Speaker 2>The Troubleshooter network
