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Speaker 4: Robert.
Speaker 3: Robert had an issue with a lean from yesterday. Now, Robert,
Speaker 3: let's let's go back.
Speaker 4: Mark. Was this when I was taking Oh yeah, the contractor.
Speaker 2: We didn't even get to his call though, so just
Speaker 2: started from scratch.
Speaker 3: Brother, all right, we'll do that. Why don't you start
Speaker 3: Mark since you handled it to begin with?
Speaker 2: Well, no, what I'm saying, Robert, what's going on?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 6: Hey? So, so I have a friend that has some property.
Speaker 6: I think it's to the north of the city. But anyways,
Speaker 6: he found out that he's got two leans. It's to
Speaker 6: a person that has his same name, same exact name.
Speaker 6: First and last thing.
Speaker 2: Oh wait wait a second, A lean on his property.
Speaker 2: What are you saying, even if it's his.
Speaker 6: Six that's what. He's got a lean on his property,
Speaker 6: but there are to a person. It's not his and
Speaker 6: he's been to.
Speaker 2: The wait wait wait, wait, wait wait wait, what do
Speaker 2: you mean it's not his it's not his property. I
Speaker 2: am puzzled.
Speaker 6: It's not his lean. He doesn't know, he doesn't know,
Speaker 6: oh anything.
Speaker 2: Well, first of all, Robert, you're confusing me, because a
Speaker 2: lean goes on a property address, A lien is not
Speaker 2: on a person. So is there a lean on the property.
Speaker 2: He owns a lean on the property, and why is
Speaker 2: there a lean on there? Has he done any research?
Speaker 6: Yeah, he's well, actually he's trying to get you. He
Speaker 6: was going to pass the property to his brother, but
Speaker 6: that's how he found out that there is.
Speaker 4: Robert, how old how old is the lean? How old
Speaker 4: is it?
Speaker 6: He thinks it about two years.
Speaker 2: And and he's never gone to court for it. No
Speaker 2: one's ever taken him to court, and he's the sole owner. Well,
Speaker 2: then they never perfected it, and it should drop off.
Speaker 2: And any title company in the world should know that
Speaker 2: all a leen is is all aleen is as a
Speaker 2: place in line to collect your share of the equity.
Speaker 2: But if they did not perfect that, as Mark said,
Speaker 2: if they did not try to foreclose, it drops off.
Speaker 2: But Robert, I have I have so many questions. How
Speaker 2: much is it for? How much is the lean for?
Speaker 6: So there's two leans, one for two thousand and one
Speaker 6: for fifteen hundred, but they are not his. They belong
Speaker 6: to a person that that I mean, it's not to
Speaker 6: It's probably the person that owes the money is someone
Speaker 6: that has the same last name and the same first name.
Speaker 2: Okay, I get it.
Speaker 3: Here's what happens when people owe money. This sounds like
Speaker 3: small judgments that were gotten against an individual. And Mark said,
Speaker 3: leans follow the property, and they do. However, when you
Speaker 3: do get a lean on a person, if we got
Speaker 3: a lean against you, Robert, we can then take that lean.
Speaker 4: Excuse me, a judgment against you.
Speaker 3: Let's say we went to small claims court and got
Speaker 3: a judgment for two grand I can then take that
Speaker 3: judgment and turn it into a lean on anything you own,
Speaker 3: including a motor vehicle. So that's probably what happened here.
Speaker 3: It's probably not for work on there. Now, if he
Speaker 3: knows for sure that it was on there in error,
Speaker 3: and he doesn't even know who these vendors are, he
Speaker 3: can have it removed with what's called a quiet title action.
Speaker 3: Maybe we get Brad O'Brien to talk about that. It's
Speaker 3: a quiet title action. Yes, it's it's very simple, but
Speaker 3: you do have to do something about it. This is
Speaker 3: a shotgun approach they use when they get a judgment.
Speaker 3: They go out for everyone with a similar name, and
Speaker 3: if there's property with equity or even without equity, they
Speaker 3: put leans on those properties. But those leans are simply placeholders.
Speaker 3: They can't nothing happens to them unless the creditor tries
Speaker 3: to collect on them.
Speaker 4: So let's get.
Speaker 3: Brad O'Brien up and ask Brad about this, this quiet
Speaker 3: title action and what you have to do to remove this.
Speaker 3: So hold on, Robert, and that's what we'll do. Now, Mark,
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Speaker 3: I have some information on a quiet title action. Let
Speaker 3: me bring Robert up. Robert, our real estate attorney's not available.
Speaker 3: But I went back to some past cases here and
Speaker 3: I took some notes on one similar case that you had,
Speaker 3: that that that we had similar to yours. First and foremost,
Speaker 3: I have to ask these questions, basic answers. How does
Speaker 3: he know that they're not his?
Speaker 4: We have the guy up.
Speaker 3: Is he still there, Robert? How do we know the
Speaker 3: leans are not his? All right, I'll tell you what
Speaker 3: he's Just tell me he's not there, and then I
Speaker 3: can move on.
Speaker 4: Just don't leave me hanging. Is he there or not?
Speaker 4: Let's move on?
Speaker 9: All right?
Speaker 3: Thank you, and thank you for answering me, Kachina, I
Speaker 3: certainly appreciate it.
Speaker 2: Let's go on. Let's just move on.
Speaker 3: But with a quiet title action, you confirm that it's
Speaker 3: not you. If you really don't think it's you, then
Speaker 3: what you do is you move on to the next step,
Speaker 3: and that is you contact them and ask them to
Speaker 3: remove it. If they don't remove it and they know
Speaker 3: it's an error, you're going to have some damages coming your.
Speaker 4: Way if they refuse.
Speaker 3: But you can prepare what's called a quiet title action.
Speaker 4: What you do is you simply.
Speaker 2: All right, good, thank you, thank you.
Speaker 4: Robert.
Speaker 3: How do you know that these leans don't belong to
Speaker 3: your friend?
Speaker 6: Because he went I think he went to the Department
Speaker 6: of Treasury and he went all over the place and
Speaker 6: they told him that those weren't I guess they have
Speaker 6: some type of account number and they recognize that.
Speaker 10: Okay, he is well.
Speaker 2: And if they didn't get a judgment in the last year,
Speaker 2: I mean he's way past the dates.
Speaker 3: Right, right, So if they didn't do anything, if you
Speaker 3: simply have a lean on your property, why does he
Speaker 3: care about them?
Speaker 2: Let me ask you.
Speaker 3: That, because he wants to transfer the home to his brother. Yes, okay,
Speaker 3: did he ask the creditors to remove the leans?
Speaker 6: I don't think he got to that point. But they
Speaker 6: won't give him any information because it's not his information,
Speaker 6: so they know that they're not.
Speaker 2: No, I get it, I get it.
Speaker 3: He has to contact Are they two different creditors or
Speaker 3: are they the same creditor for each one?
Speaker 6: It's two different ones.
Speaker 4: That's very odd, very very odd.
Speaker 3: Okay, what he has to do he has to make
Speaker 3: a record of contacting each party and asking them to
Speaker 3: either provide evidence that he is the debtor or to
Speaker 3: remove it. And he has to do that so he
Speaker 3: can he can keep a file and if they do
Speaker 3: not answer him, or if they do not release it,
Speaker 3: then what he has to do is he has to
Speaker 3: file a quiet it's called quiet like noisy, it's quiet
Speaker 3: a quiet title action.
Speaker 4: And what he.
Speaker 3: Does is it's it's really a lawsuit and all it
Speaker 3: is is a declaration filed with the court asking that
Speaker 3: the leans be removed because they're not his. And he
Speaker 3: puts down his name, his address, his social and he
Speaker 3: and he he tells them it's not his. He sends
Speaker 3: those copies of the documents into the courts against the creditor.
Speaker 3: Now that creditor now has to answer the complaint. This
Speaker 3: should not be done on his own.
Speaker 2: It's basically a very it is.
Speaker 3: A mini lawsuit. That's exactly what it is. And what
Speaker 3: you're saying is this is not mine, remove it, and they.
Speaker 8: Have to legally.
Speaker 4: Well, I would get Brad O'Brien. Yes, you need an attorney.
Speaker 3: Unfortunately, you can figure it out on your own if
Speaker 3: you want. You know, you can look up quiet title
Speaker 3: action to remove leans.
Speaker 2: The other thing to look at is notice of contest
Speaker 2: and that's where you'll simply serve them basically a thirty
Speaker 2: day notice and they're going to have to be required
Speaker 2: to file a lawsuit against you within that thirty days
Speaker 2: or they need to get rid of the lean.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, and all right, and hey, mark that notice
Speaker 3: that you just talked about, Yes, when how much time
Speaker 3: does he have to do that?
Speaker 2: Well, it doesn't matter once you figure out the liens
Speaker 2: on there, and this is only if it's invalid one
Speaker 2: invalidly and like this guy's saying, you can actually just
Speaker 2: google Colorado Notice of contest on a lean and basically
Speaker 2: fill that out, have them served with that, and basically
Speaker 2: within thirty days they have to file a lawsuit or
Speaker 2: drop it, and then if they don't, you can start
Speaker 2: seeking damages or your brother or whoever it is.
Speaker 3: Now, by the way, there is also something called a
Speaker 3: bush up or vessel a wrongful lean.
Speaker 2: So here's what he should do.
Speaker 4: First.
Speaker 3: Before you do what Mark suggested or I suggested with
Speaker 3: quiet title, the very first thing you should do is
Speaker 3: go to the county clerk and ask what is the
Speaker 3: easiest way to expunge this wrongful lean.
Speaker 4: Sometimes they have a form you can fill.
Speaker 3: Out, which is a motion, but they help you because
Speaker 3: it's all there and you just have to fill it
Speaker 3: out like the lean on a date and how much
Speaker 3: it is, and then you simply make a statement it's
Speaker 3: not mine, and then you.
Speaker 4: File it with the clerk.
Speaker 3: The clerk then sends notice out to the other party
Speaker 3: and will expunge it if they don't answer. So some
Speaker 3: counties do that, some do not, unfortunately, and I've always
Speaker 3: thought this was unfortunate.
Speaker 2: There are no easy ways to clear up title.
Speaker 3: Anyone can put a lien on your property for any
Speaker 3: reason whatsoever, and it's up to you to get it removed.
Speaker 3: And I always thought that was quite unfair. I even
Speaker 3: thought that people who put liens on your homes and
Speaker 3: make you do this should be responsible for your legal
Speaker 3: fees because you're and they're fat and happy, and all
Speaker 3: of a sudden you get like a lean on your
Speaker 3: property and it's done.
Speaker 2: It's either done in error, true error, or it's.
Speaker 3: Done because they find fifty Jack Smith's so they say,
Speaker 3: you know what, let's put liens on all fifty of them.
Speaker 2: And they do that.
Speaker 3: Now Mark Parker Police Department. I don't understand what's going
Speaker 3: on with this.
Speaker 10: A couple of days after Thanksgiving, around five thirty pm,
Speaker 10: thirty four degrees, my son was playing lacrosse that afternoon
Speaker 10: and he was driving my Honda Cord Older one without headlights.
Speaker 10: He forgot to turn on the headlights. He gets pulled
Speaker 10: over for.
Speaker 2: A d You want what time of day was this?
Speaker 4: What time of day was there?
Speaker 11: Five PM? A couple of days after.
Speaker 4: Things get okay, So his headlights were off.
Speaker 2: Where's the DUI come in? Did I? Did I hear that?
Speaker 3: Right?
Speaker 4: Well, that's what I want to know.
Speaker 10: So he over on Chambers and then he pulls over
Speaker 10: into a side street. He swipes the curb a little
Speaker 10: bit and the police officer, brand new officer that just
Speaker 10: passed FTO thirty days ago, hired in June, officer Walter Copeland.
Speaker 4: He uh, none of that matters, you know, Mark.
Speaker 3: It doesn't matter when he passed his test or when
Speaker 3: he went on duty.
Speaker 4: What matters is your your son's blood alcohol.
Speaker 10: He comes to the window and the first thing he
Speaker 10: says out of his mouth is how much did you have.
Speaker 11: To drink tonight? He says none, Well.
Speaker 10: Your eyes are red. Step out of the car. I'm
Speaker 10: gonna ask you one more time.
Speaker 11: How much? How much did you have to drink tonight?
Speaker 2: Nothing?
Speaker 12: He does a right, he does a CFS and he
Speaker 12: claimed that he had mistagnus a gues.
Speaker 2: He never took the breathalyzer. Where are we going?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 10: He takes them into custody, takes them into Parker PD.
Speaker 10: And he blows, He blows triple zeros, releases them, releases him.
Speaker 10: He's sixteen years old. He releases him into my custody.
Speaker 10: And the officer says, I made a mistake. So, okay,
Speaker 10: here I am here. I am trying to sue in
Speaker 10: civil court in small claims for what seven thousand?
Speaker 2: What are you suing for? What are you suing for?
Speaker 4: Mark?
Speaker 10: False arrest, false imprisonment violation and Fourth Amendment?
Speaker 3: Right, there's no false that's not a false arrest and
Speaker 3: false for Is that a small claims avenue?
Speaker 2: Whatsoever?
Speaker 4: But Mark, really, I want to analyze this. I know you, Mark,
Speaker 4: I know you're angry. I know you're upset, and I
Speaker 4: would be too.
Speaker 3: But just because the officer made a mistake, the officer
Speaker 3: only has to have a suspicion. There's no way an
Speaker 3: officer in every arrest, in every case, can have a
Speaker 3: foregone conclusion. And that is a slam dunk conviction. So
Speaker 3: the officer did not do a false arrest or a
Speaker 3: false imprisonment. He did an intentional arrest and an intentional
Speaker 3: hold holding.
Speaker 2: It's not false.
Speaker 3: False is when they know it to be false, they
Speaker 3: know it not to be valid. But they do it
Speaker 3: for their own personal reasons, and or they do it
Speaker 3: because they're vindictive or vicious.
Speaker 4: You don't have a case here.
Speaker 3: And no, no, I have another question, though, Mark, I
Speaker 3: really do now, and I'm not trying to put you down.
Speaker 3: I truly want to dissect the thinking process here.
Speaker 2: What are your damages?
Speaker 10: Moral damages for a success?
Speaker 2: What does that mean?
Speaker 11: Driver?
Speaker 4: What does that mean?
Speaker 8: What is moral?
Speaker 10: What of his mind? Being arrested for no cause?
Speaker 12: Putting hands?
Speaker 10: What police car is saying that he is under arrest?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'd be pissed.
Speaker 3: And so what are the damages? Did you go to
Speaker 3: a psychiatrist? Did do a psychiatrist? Say your son suffers?
Speaker 2: What you have to have damages?
Speaker 13: Okay, violation?
Speaker 3: Tell me about Tell me what right? Tell me what violation?
Speaker 3: What rights were violated?
Speaker 4: Mark?
Speaker 2: What rights?
Speaker 10: Fourth Amendments?
Speaker 11: Right was violated? Taken into coach?
Speaker 3: No, no, don't say fourth No, don't say Fourth Amendment.
Speaker 3: Don't say Fourth Amendment. Tell me the rights that were violated.
Speaker 11: He was seized when he shouldn't have been seized.
Speaker 3: Okay, let me ask you something, Mark, do you think
Speaker 3: every single time someone is arrested it results in a conviction?
Speaker 5: No.
Speaker 3: Okay, So the ones that don't result in a conviction,
Speaker 3: are they all seized under false pretenses?
Speaker 4: Are they all violated?
Speaker 14: Most likely not?
Speaker 3: But you feel your do you feel the officer? Here's
Speaker 3: what I'm thinking. Do you think the officer targeted your
Speaker 3: son and did it vindictively?
Speaker 11: Yes?
Speaker 4: Why?
Speaker 10: I think he was uneducated? He was his first arrest.
Speaker 4: No, that's not what I said. I said, did he
Speaker 4: target the boy?
Speaker 3: And did he do it vindictively to cause pain and
Speaker 3: suffering to your son? Knowing that the chargers were false?
Speaker 3: That's what false imprisonment and false arrest is. Okay, you
Speaker 3: really believe, and you really believe Mark, Mark. Listen, if
Speaker 3: the officer had a reasonable suspicion your son had been
Speaker 3: drinking and arrested him and it turned out that your
Speaker 3: son blew zeros and was not high or stoned, the
Speaker 3: system worked. The system worked going after the process. There
Speaker 3: is nothing wrong with what happened it, you know from
Speaker 3: just what you're telling me. If that officer he might
Speaker 3: have been doubtful and not know and he did this
Speaker 3: for safety reasons. But unless Mark, here's the bottom line, bro,
Speaker 3: You're you're gonna lose at every turn. You're not gonna
Speaker 3: get anything. You're just not How long ago was this
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 11: A couple of days after Thanksgiving.
Speaker 3: I would if I and you have been trying to
Speaker 3: fight this this whole time.
Speaker 4: You've been trying to file a lawsuit.
Speaker 3: Correct, you can file a lawsuit against the officer easily.
Speaker 4: Why didn't you just hire an attorney to do that?
Speaker 11: I need a recommendation. I'm calling you.
Speaker 3: Do Okay, Okay, I'm gonna call Joelasara And since you
Speaker 3: called us, listen, even though I disagree with you, I
Speaker 3: want to at least give you the avenue to research this.
Speaker 2: And I want to know what Joela Zarra has to say.
Speaker 4: Tom.
Speaker 2: I just I don't know. If I i'd be very upset,
Speaker 2: and I know you would too if this happened to
Speaker 2: your kid. Yes, but I want to bring it at
Speaker 2: I want to bring it one more step. How about
Speaker 2: if it was, like I don't know, in Detroit or
Speaker 2: Michigan five years ago, and it was a black kid
Speaker 2: getting pulled over by a white officer with the exact
Speaker 2: same thing. I mean, there could be lawsuits, there could
Speaker 2: be protests, there could be a million things going on.
Speaker 2: I'd be very upset if I was this guy as well,
Speaker 2: whether or not i'd bring a lawsuit that that has
Speaker 2: nothing to do with it, but I might bring the
Speaker 2: hell out of that cop.
Speaker 3: Yeah you know, listen, I know I know that I
Speaker 3: would be upset, so Mark, I don't want to, but
Speaker 3: I would know. There is no lawsuit here, there is
Speaker 3: no there are no damages.
Speaker 4: Your son.
Speaker 3: Has he been to a psychiatrist or a psychologist once
Speaker 3: over this incident?
Speaker 2: Once?
Speaker 4: Okay?
Speaker 15: Then how are you going to prove any kind of
Speaker 15: emotional trauma? And in real life is it actually affected him?
Speaker 15: But let's get Mark Mark real quick. In real life,
Speaker 15: forget about if he went to a shrink or anything.
Speaker 15: Is he carrying on his normal or did this really
Speaker 15: affect him outside of the half hour or hour he
Speaker 15: went through.
Speaker 10: Oh he's an honor student, he's too smart for this.
Speaker 10: So the fact that has happened, Yeah, I'm pissed.
Speaker 2: He got a break.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I know you are. I got to take a break, Mark.
Speaker 3: Let's get an attorney on who handles these kinds of defenses,
Speaker 3: and he has sued police, and we'll talk to him
Speaker 3: right after this.
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Speaker 4: We're trying to get an attorney on for Mark. Until
Speaker 4: we do, let's go over to Carl and talk to Carl.
Speaker 3: Carl, what's going on with your medical bill?
Speaker 16: I was at an event in uh Newport Beach a
Speaker 16: couple months ago and had a little medical event, nothing
Speaker 16: nothing big, just dizzy, and paramedics showed up and said, hey,
Speaker 16: can we check you out real quick?
Speaker 3: But wait a minute, Carl, when you say you had
Speaker 3: an event nothing too big and paramedics showed up, are
Speaker 3: they walking down the street and see you?
Speaker 4: Or I mean, how did they show up? Who called them?
Speaker 16: Someone called them?
Speaker 14: Someone called them, probably the hotel.
Speaker 3: Okay, why what were you exhibiting? Why would they call?
Speaker 3: I would like like somebody looked at you and said,
Speaker 3: call paramedics.
Speaker 4: What were you doing when.
Speaker 14: They said that, I I I got busy.
Speaker 16: I didn't really pass out, but I kind uh very
Speaker 16: close to passing out.
Speaker 2: Okay, but did anyone observe this?
Speaker 14: Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, a number of people?
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, got it?
Speaker 3: And uh so someone called paramedics and what happened?
Speaker 16: They came, They checked me out. They said, we think
Speaker 16: you should go to the hospital. And I said, no,
Speaker 16: not a chance, that's not going to happen. I'm not
Speaker 16: there's nothing, there is really nothing wrong with me. And
Speaker 16: they said, well, you gotta you gotta talk with somebody
Speaker 16: at the hospit biddle or whatever to deny services or whatever.
Speaker 16: And so I did all that and.
Speaker 14: They went about their way. I went, wait, wait, wait.
Speaker 3: How did you how did you talk to people at
Speaker 3: the hospital? Was it on on a cell phone or how.
Speaker 16: Yeah, on the paramedic I think he brought it up
Speaker 16: on on like a tablet or something.
Speaker 3: Okay, And you denied and you so you opted out
Speaker 3: of further.
Speaker 14: Chair medical advice.
Speaker 11: Okay.
Speaker 3: They wanted to be not okay, I know what that is.
Speaker 3: They were doing that so they're not blamed if something
Speaker 3: happened to you.
Speaker 14: They were okay, exactly got it.
Speaker 16: And so I mean, they did hook me up to a.
Speaker 14: Mobile EKG. They checked my blood.
Speaker 16: Pressure, checked my blood sugar, and everything was normal with
Speaker 16: the well everything was normal. Blood sugar was a little
Speaker 16: bit low, but everything was normal. And I went, now, okay, Well,
Speaker 16: so I figured I figured paramedics showed up. This is
Speaker 16: part of you know, public servant type stuff, and that
Speaker 16: you know it's taxpayer funded. I get a bill in
Speaker 16: the mail, like five hundreds. At first, they wanted to
Speaker 16: know about my insurance, and I just ignored that.
Speaker 11: Well, then they send me a.
Speaker 16: Bill an invoice and I can pay them one hundred
Speaker 16: and twenty dollars because they think I'm uninsured. If I
Speaker 16: tell them I have insurance, they want like five hundred
Speaker 16: and eighty some dollars.
Speaker 7: So I have a question real quick. Did you end
Speaker 7: up giving them your address? It sounds like you didn't
Speaker 7: give them your insurance information.
Speaker 16: I didn't give them insurance information. I don't think I did, no,
Speaker 16: But they took my address and everything they wanted, all
Speaker 16: that info, and they.
Speaker 7: Clearly understand that you denied their services.
Speaker 16: Well, I mean I allowed them to check me out,
Speaker 16: but that was it. I wasn't going to the hospital here.
Speaker 4: But they did they ask you. Here's what I need
Speaker 4: to know.
Speaker 3: When they first showed up, did they say do you
Speaker 3: mind if we check you out?
Speaker 4: Or did they just go to work?
Speaker 16: They said, do you mind if we check you out?
Speaker 6: All right?
Speaker 2: That was the.
Speaker 3: Approval you gave, and you could have said no. And
Speaker 3: the problem here is if they came up and started
Speaker 3: treating you without you saying anything or doing anything, you
Speaker 3: couldn't have been held responsible for that. But if they
Speaker 3: came up and said, sir, we were told you're a
Speaker 3: little dizzy or you're a little lops at whatever, and we.
Speaker 2: Want to check you out, is that okay?
Speaker 3: And if you gave them approval, even though you thought
Speaker 3: it was it was some kind of charity thing or
Speaker 3: public service thing, that could be construed as approval. And furthermore,
Speaker 3: if you opted out of the care, it showed that
Speaker 3: you probably were looked at. I think it's going to
Speaker 3: be hard, but they could definitely not bill you for
Speaker 3: just showing up without you calling, and if you're just
Speaker 3: there and they do it, they don't. They can't get
Speaker 3: you to pay for it. So where does it stand
Speaker 3: right now?
Speaker 16: Well, they sent me an invoice, then that's pretty much
Speaker 16: where it's at.
Speaker 14: And I just haven't I.
Speaker 16: Just want I just figured I gotta figure out what
Speaker 16: I need to do with it. And I just thought
Speaker 16: it was I mean, it's basically the fire department showed up.
Speaker 14: If fire department showed up and your house is.
Speaker 2: On fire.
Speaker 16: And they put the fire out, you don't pay the
Speaker 16: fire department for putting the fire up.
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Speaker 2: We are going to get Marco one yet. Yeah, So
Speaker 2: there's two different things we're gonna talk about Mark with
Speaker 2: that issue with the Parker Police Department. In Mark, I've
Speaker 2: got a little different insight I want to give you,
Speaker 2: But we are going to get Marco on I part
Speaker 2: ways with Tom on one part of it. I'd be
Speaker 2: very well, you know what Tom said, he'd be upset too,
Speaker 2: so that's not even fair of me to see. I
Speaker 2: don't think there's any lawsuit there, but I definitely want
Speaker 2: to talk to Marco on it. What I would want
Speaker 2: to do is make sure that cop gets retrained. And
Speaker 2: if you're just joining us. Basically, Mark's kid was pulled
Speaker 2: over coming back from a lacrosse game and he saw
Speaker 2: the lights come on. Hey Mark, why did they pull
Speaker 2: him over? What was the original reason they saw him
Speaker 2: hit a curb or what happened?
Speaker 10: He was driving without his headlights?
Speaker 2: Ah, I got you. That's a reason to get pulled over.
Speaker 10: And then he hit a curb and he was over.
Speaker 10: I got you as much right to the possible as possible.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got it. Then he hit a curb. The
Speaker 2: police officer pulled him over, said he had red eyes,
Speaker 2: and did he do a field for bread? I mean,
Speaker 2: did he touch his nose? He did all that? And
Speaker 2: are they saying.
Speaker 7: He's saying my question? I mean, did they breathalyze him
Speaker 7: on scene? Yeah?
Speaker 10: If they breathalyzed them on scene, I want to be
Speaker 10: calling you. But they took him, they arrested him and
Speaker 10: took a much mugshot, and they were about to do
Speaker 10: fingerprints or they did, Well.
Speaker 2: You just brought something up. I wonder they prints, So
Speaker 2: I wonder how that works. I'm gonna ask Marco that
Speaker 2: when we get him on That's very interesting. If you
Speaker 2: get arrested for a DUI, they do a mug shot,
Speaker 2: they fingerprint you, you are now in the system, no
Speaker 2: matter what I mean. Do they have to get rid
Speaker 2: of that stuff or that's just part of living in Parker,
Speaker 2: Colorado or anywhere else in the country for that matter.
Speaker 2: I don't know how that works. That. That's an interesting
Speaker 2: point to this. I didn't think of Dmitri. What do
Speaker 2: you think of that?
Speaker 17: Well, I'm interested in seeing if if he was actually
Speaker 17: charged with something or did they eventually did a breathalyzer
Speaker 17: or a blood test.
Speaker 2: Oh, I'm sorry you missed the first You missed that
Speaker 2: cost you know. So they pull him over, just like
Speaker 2: you said, they for whatever reason, they don't give him
Speaker 2: a roadside breathalyzer. It could because of his age. I
Speaker 2: don't know how that that consent works for that either,
Speaker 2: because he's sixteen. They get him to the station, he
Speaker 2: blows zeros and basically the cop did he kind of apologized, right,
Speaker 2: or said I made a mistake.
Speaker 11: No, he made a mistake.
Speaker 2: Apology, So he said I made a mistake. Well, that's
Speaker 2: somewhat of an apology. Mark, I know you're pissed. I'd
Speaker 2: be pissed too, But I mean that's some acknowledgment of something.
Speaker 2: At least he.
Speaker 10: Charged them and processed fingerprints before he blew zeros.
Speaker 2: That does not make any sense.
Speaker 7: I mean, why wouldn't they just have him use the
Speaker 7: breathalyzer on scene? Did he deny to use it?
Speaker 2: I don't know if they can at such team.
Speaker 7: They bring him back saying he asked for him, So
Speaker 7: why would they bring him back to the police apartment.
Speaker 2: I don't know how it works with minors, Henry, I
Speaker 2: just don't know, but I bet Marco does when we
Speaker 2: get him on. But I'm more interested in everything right now.
Speaker 2: First of all, Mark, I'm going to lay out I
Speaker 2: don't think you have a lawsuit at all. I don't
Speaker 2: know what your damages would be. There might be something
Speaker 2: to where your rights were violated, but that's not going
Speaker 2: to put a lot of money in your pocket. It
Speaker 2: might correct a circumstance, but really, what I think is
Speaker 2: it's a new cop. Just like you said, I would
Speaker 2: make sure his commanding officer makes sure to look at
Speaker 2: the body cam, which I know most police forces wear
Speaker 2: now they have to wear him and they have to
Speaker 2: be on basically every stop. And I think Parker Castle
Speaker 2: Rock they all fall under that in Douglas County and
Speaker 2: the dash cam, and I would see where it went wrong.
Speaker 2: I mean, is it possible, Mark, your kid came out
Speaker 2: and he's nervous and he's kind of tripping around, and
Speaker 2: maybe he does have red eyes. I mean, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I do find it very hard and I'd love to
Speaker 2: hear from a cop. I would love to hear from
Speaker 2: a copper retimeired cop. How many times did you bring
Speaker 2: someone in on DUI all the way to the station
Speaker 2: and they blow zeros? I would assume most cops that
Speaker 2: does not happen to but I could be wrong.
Speaker 17: Well, Gary, you know you remember last Monday we had
Speaker 17: a special guest here, retired Aurora lieutenant Gary. We can
Speaker 17: give him a call if you want and kind of
Speaker 17: get him to weigh in on this topic.
Speaker 4: I wouldn't find that at all. I mean, I love
Speaker 4: the topic.
Speaker 2: What I'm even more curious about from a legal Standpointoh,
Speaker 2: I don't care what the crime is. Just hold tight, Mark.
Speaker 2: As soon as we get Marco up. I promise you
Speaker 2: can ask the attorney all the questions in the world.
Speaker 2: But what I'm really curious about, I don't care what
Speaker 2: crime it is. But you get arrested, you get fingerprinted.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't even know. Do they take DNA? I
Speaker 2: don't even know what they can do now. So whatever
Speaker 2: they take, you know, a hair follicle, a DNA, a
Speaker 2: blood test, whatever they do, a mugshot, do they keep
Speaker 2: all that when you're one hundred percent innocent? Are you
Speaker 2: now on file? I guess you. My guess is yes.
Speaker 2: But we'll find out. But no charges were even they
Speaker 2: brought him in on suspicion of dui. But the fact
Speaker 2: no charges were brought. I understand if chargers are brought
Speaker 2: and you lose the case, that's still there. That's public
Speaker 2: record in Colorado courts. So and so got arrested for
Speaker 2: a DUI in two thousand and five, even though even
Speaker 2: though he never was found guilty. That is in Colorado
Speaker 2: courts forever. But in a case where the where no
Speaker 2: charges were ever brought, would they keep the fingerpriis like
Speaker 2: my daughter's getting ready to graduate from law school. And
Speaker 2: notice how I like throwing that in because I'm very
Speaker 2: proud of my twenty three year old daughter getting ready
Speaker 2: to do was from law school. But listen, she had
Speaker 2: to go back through when applying to the bar, and
Speaker 2: literally list anytime she was arrested had nothing to do
Speaker 2: with guilt, nothing to do with anything. And that doesn't
Speaker 2: look good. I was pulled over for DUI when I
Speaker 2: was sixteen. I mean, really, no matter what, that doesn't
Speaker 2: look good.
Speaker 7: So, according to Tom's best friend here Ai, it says,
Speaker 7: in January first of twenty twenty two, Colorado lah mandated
Speaker 7: that the sealed or the records would be sealed automatically
Speaker 7: if no criminal charges were filed within one year of
Speaker 7: the arrest.
Speaker 2: Okay, so nothing filed, so it does go back to
Speaker 2: filed and in this case, so that's good news, Mark,
Speaker 2: that's really good news. It's not even gonna be in
Speaker 2: Colorado courts because nothing was filed.
Speaker 7: So it's a sealed record. But it does mention up
Speaker 7: here that it would not show up on any background
Speaker 7: check obviously.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So but once again with the bar, and this
Speaker 2: will be another great question for Marco because he's an attorney.
Speaker 2: It's like, I'm telling you my daughter was listing stuff.
Speaker 2: I said, you might as well list when you snuck
Speaker 2: your boyfriend in or when you snuck out of the house.
Speaker 2: I mean, like, really, you might as well list if
Speaker 2: you're going to list something that dumb and I don't
Speaker 2: remember what it was. She's like, listen, you just don't understand.
Speaker 2: I gotta list everything.
Speaker 17: Can you imagine how many pages you would have had
Speaker 17: to append to that application?
Speaker 2: Let's take a break. Three oh three seven, one, three eight,
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Speaker 2: love to hear from you. I got two deputies sitting
Speaker 2: right next to me, ready to think their teeth into stuff?
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Speaker 2: Three seven one three eight two five five three zero
Speaker 2: three Martino, you've been ripped off for taking care of
Speaker 2: you know. We're having a discussion here behind the scenes,
Speaker 2: and it's very interesting to me. I come from this
Speaker 2: on this call with this DUI. The kid blows zeros.
Speaker 2: I'd be very upset as a father, and I don't understand.
Speaker 2: We have Chopper, he's one of our deputies. He was
Speaker 2: uh he was in Denver, Denver PD. He's telling me.
Speaker 2: I asked him, I said, how many times have you
Speaker 2: pulled over a sixteen year old and you bring them
Speaker 2: down to the station and they blow zeros? He says thousands, thousands.
Speaker 2: I would assume the entire Denver Police Department should all
Speaker 2: be retrained at that point. If you literally have pulled
Speaker 2: a thousand kids out of their car, he gave them
Speaker 2: a roadside and I'm going off of what mark the
Speaker 2: dad said, and then brought them down and they blow zeros.
Speaker 2: Then you say I make a mistake a thousand times.
Speaker 2: That seems pretty bad. That seems pretty bad, and I
Speaker 2: wonder if that's true. I would love for a current
Speaker 2: officer in Denver to call me up three oh three
Speaker 2: seven one three eight two five five. You don't have
Speaker 2: to say your name. I promise you know. We have
Speaker 2: no tracking method, And I would love to know if
Speaker 2: you know of these thousands of people that have been
Speaker 2: pulled over at the age of sixteen that blow zeros
Speaker 2: and wanted a roadside right there by the car, but
Speaker 2: the cop refused to give it to them. Now, that
Speaker 2: simply could be because of age, and I'm hoping Marco Bendinelli,
Speaker 2: you know what, Henry, you're under thirty. What do you
Speaker 2: think about this whole call, seriously, what do you think
Speaker 2: about it? You know, Mark, I really.
Speaker 7: Believe that the cops should be breathalyzing a lot of
Speaker 7: these people that they're suspicious. You know, they need to
Speaker 7: have it out there. Driving under the influence is wrong,
Speaker 7: and I think that a lot of people get away
Speaker 7: with it and they shouldn't.
Speaker 2: But I really disagree with bringing them into the station.
Speaker 7: That just seems so bizarre to me and like a
Speaker 7: policy issue. They should have some sort of procedure just
Speaker 7: to breathalyze them on scene.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wonder why not unless if, once again, it's got.
Speaker 7: To do with the aide as far as him being
Speaker 7: like traumatized or having any emotional damages.
Speaker 2: This kind of thing happened to me when I was
Speaker 2: sixteen years old.
Speaker 7: What happened, I just you know, I got stopped for
Speaker 7: a DUI check. Obviously I wasn't drinking or anything, but
Speaker 7: the cop just took a look at me. I talked
Speaker 7: to the guy, I cooperated, and he told me to
Speaker 7: have a good night.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So was it at a roadside or to pull
Speaker 2: you over?
Speaker 11: Well?
Speaker 7: I was driving through through Granby in winter Park that
Speaker 7: kind of area.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, that little town before you go up and
Speaker 2: you know where.
Speaker 7: The killdozer was. Yeah, yeah, yeah, that sound right there.
Speaker 7: And you know he pulled me over. He said that
Speaker 7: I kind of swerved over the lane. I apologize, told
Speaker 7: him that I was driving back from Utah.
Speaker 2: He was just checking. Yeah, he was just checking with me.
Speaker 7: And you know, if you would have wanted to breathalyze me,
Speaker 7: I would have consented to it right there and you know,
Speaker 7: gone on my way.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 4: But he didn't drag you into the police station.
Speaker 2: He didn't.
Speaker 4: Can't you imagine, Dmitri? I mean, what's your opinion.
Speaker 17: Well, you know, it's not an easy opinion to form
Speaker 17: based on the limited amount of information that we've been given.
Speaker 2: I would love to see pat one side of the story.
Speaker 17: Yeah, but we can easily get the true side, or
Speaker 17: the or the undisputable side of the story by looking
Speaker 17: at the badgecam video, which is available for approximately twenty
Speaker 17: five dollars. You're sure about that, Yeah, I bought. I
Speaker 17: recently bought for three different events in Denver. I bought
Speaker 17: three three badge cam records from Denver Police.
Speaker 2: That you do that, I'll pay for easy. I'd love
Speaker 2: to do that. Do I have to be Do we
Speaker 2: have to have the call or do it because he's related?
Speaker 17: No, it's public information, so anybody can do it.
Speaker 4: Wait a minute, I can go pull dash cam.
Speaker 17: Yes for roughly nobody has not dash cams but body camera. Yeah.
Speaker 17: So yeah, you don't have to be part of that event.
Speaker 17: Anybody open with twenty five dollars can do so. In Denver,
Speaker 17: it's a very simple form. You a partner.
Speaker 2: I'm sure they have an analogous system in Parker.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: I love that? So Mark here can give me Mark?
Speaker 2: Did you ask for the dash cam? By any way? Bodycam?
Speaker 10: I have all I have all the records, I have
Speaker 10: all the dash I have dash cam, and I have bodycam.
Speaker 6: Sev.
Speaker 11: It is muted.
Speaker 10: You can't, you can't hear?
Speaker 2: Well, what's it looking? What does it look like when
Speaker 2: you look at it? Does it look like he could
Speaker 2: be drunk? Be honest, No, I mean we already know
Speaker 2: he wasn't. But what I'm saying is, why why do
Speaker 2: you think TAKP brought him in? Just the bus balls? Honestly?
Speaker 2: Why do you think so.
Speaker 6: On?
Speaker 10: An uneducated?
Speaker 4: Just uneducated?
Speaker 8: Who's that?
Speaker 2: On? Who's online? Six? Hold on? Mark?
Speaker 4: Who's online?
Speaker 2: Six?
Speaker 6: Well?
Speaker 2: Then you retrain the guy. He is brand new, like
Speaker 2: you said, so you have them retrained. We have a
Speaker 2: retired officer online. Ten Actually, let's bring up shamee.
Speaker 4: Hey Shane, what is have you been listening to this?
Speaker 14: Yeah? Hi, Mark, I have?
Speaker 2: So what is your opinion? First of all, I've got
Speaker 2: someone that I know personally that says, when he was
Speaker 2: a cop in Denver, this is like normal. If there's
Speaker 2: a sixteen year old and he's got red eyes or
Speaker 2: swerves or something, you bring him into the station for
Speaker 2: a dui and they blow zeros all the time. I
Speaker 2: just I can't even imagine that's real.
Speaker 14: Well I don't know that it's just specifically limited to
Speaker 14: sixteen year olds, but there are occasions when you do
Speaker 14: bring people in and they do blow zeros because they
Speaker 14: failed the roadside jazz.
Speaker 2: And then what makes it? Why wouldn't you give a
Speaker 2: sixteen year old a roadside breathalyzer? Do you have to
Speaker 2: because of their age they're a minor? Bring them in
Speaker 2: for some consent reason with their parents or why, and
Speaker 2: they just do it right there.
Speaker 14: Well, so there's two there's two things. Unless they've changed
Speaker 14: the loft and wait, not ten years ago but I
Speaker 14: don't think they have. So there's there's two things that
Speaker 14: issue here. There's roadside maneuvers that you typically give people, right,
Speaker 14: they call them SFST standard field sobriety as that's the
Speaker 14: walk and turn, touch your nose, that type of stuff.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but don't they usually do that, then a breathalyzer
Speaker 2: like both or you're saying if they fail that, they
Speaker 2: generally don't go to the roadside breathalyzer.
Speaker 14: Well, so this way they were right.
Speaker 6: Man.
Speaker 2: My only experience here is I watch cops. I love
Speaker 2: that show Cops, and usually what I see is someone
Speaker 2: fails touching their nose. I mean, it's evident they're drunk,
Speaker 2: and then they're usually asked do you want to blow
Speaker 2: into this? Sometimes you're not, so I mean, that's really
Speaker 2: what I'm asking, Shane.
Speaker 14: But it used to be in Colorado. Those roadside breathalyzers
Speaker 14: the actual device we need. Some agencies don't even have them.
Speaker 2: Some agencies don't even have them. Hold on, I got
Speaker 2: a question for you the road.
Speaker 7: Yeah, it could be much more worth it for you
Speaker 7: guys just to get the breathalyzers and do it roadside,
Speaker 7: rather than actually bringing them in and booking them.
Speaker 2: Well, they're not, they're not admissible. So in other words,
Speaker 2: if you fail that, I mean, they still have to
Speaker 2: do one back at the station. Isn't that correct? Shane?
Speaker 14: Right?
Speaker 2: Yeah, they're just not calibrated right or often enough or accurate.
Speaker 17: Right right, But despite its evidentiary value, if you blow
Speaker 17: zero road side, then at least that saves everybody the
Speaker 17: time and effort of a ride downtown.
Speaker 6: Hey.
Speaker 7: Absolutely, it's extra leg work, but that should eliminate a
Speaker 7: little more process.
Speaker 2: How long ago were you a.
Speaker 14: Cop twenty seventeen and then part.
Speaker 2: Time for Okay, no, no, no, I mean it's pretty recent.
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this, when if you pulled someone over,
Speaker 2: and let's say you've got proper probable costs, you pull
Speaker 2: them over because they're speeding or license plate registration, whatever
Speaker 2: probable cause is real probable cause though, and sure you
Speaker 2: suspect them of drinking, but you ask them and they say, no,
Speaker 2: I haven't had anything to drink, and they're not fall
Speaker 2: down drunk. You can imagine that. I mean, typically, where
Speaker 2: do you go from there?
Speaker 14: Well, so then you look for other indicators, right like
Speaker 14: were they swerving? Did they you know when they stopped?
Speaker 14: Did they stop super fast or did they take forever?
Speaker 14: Were they driving like twenty miles an hour on a freeway?
Speaker 14: You know, are their eyes bloodshot and water? Is their
Speaker 14: speech slurred?
Speaker 11: You know, things like that. You look for other indicators.
Speaker 2: Being on the other side. Since you're not doing that anymore,
Speaker 2: let me ask you this, if you were on the
Speaker 2: other side and you got pulled over and the officer
Speaker 2: asked you, have you been drinking tonight? My understanding from
Speaker 2: our attorneys are criminal defense attorneys that we've been talking about.
Speaker 2: For whatever Joe Lazarrol's say, you never acknowledge it. You
Speaker 2: either don't answer the question or say it's none of
Speaker 2: your business or something. I mean, would you agree that's
Speaker 2: probably the best tactic because I always I won't say
Speaker 2: I argue with Joe. He's a criminal defense attorney. He's
Speaker 2: the one that's got to deal with the evidence and
Speaker 2: everything afterwards. But I've always questioned them like, doesn't that
Speaker 2: make you appear more guilty to the cop?
Speaker 4: I mean, if someone's telling you that as a cop, No,
Speaker 4: I'm not going.
Speaker 2: To answer your question. I mean, where do you go
Speaker 2: from there?
Speaker 13: Then?
Speaker 14: Shane, Well, it's definitely not the normal conversation that a
Speaker 14: person has with somebody else. So for them to say no,
Speaker 14: you know, as a police officer, you understand that they're
Speaker 14: not required to give you any answer and they're not
Speaker 14: required to talk to you. So if you go back
Speaker 14: to the same thing I was talking about, if you
Speaker 14: don't have any of those other indicators, then you cut
Speaker 14: them a ticket for whatever you pull them over for
Speaker 14: and set them on their way.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, okay, that's basically exactly what Joe said. Hey, Shane,
Speaker 2: I really do appreciate you calling in. I can't wait
Speaker 2: to see what the attorney says about it. But in general,
Speaker 2: do you think when you were doing this, could you
Speaker 2: how many times did you bring someone in that blue
Speaker 2: Zero's a kid too. I'm not talking like you know,
Speaker 2: a twenty thirty. I'm not talking someone that's been driving
Speaker 2: a long time. I'm talking someone that just got their
Speaker 2: license sixteen years old. Apparently he's got some bloodshot eyes.
Speaker 2: I mean, has that ever happened to you?
Speaker 14: Not I'm a kid, but one time in my career
Speaker 14: and as an adult, and what happened.
Speaker 4: What do you do?
Speaker 2: You just cut them loose, apologize or what?
Speaker 6: Man?
Speaker 14: Well, so, in this particular case, the guy was involved
Speaker 14: in a traffic accident, I'll call to it, and it
Speaker 14: had already happened, and I still processed him and charged him,
Speaker 14: and then later on in court because we couldn't establish
Speaker 14: any of the roadside maneuversus that showed any indications or
Speaker 14: anything like that other than what he had told me
Speaker 14: then that the case was dismissed.
Speaker 2: Actually, hey, what department did you work for?
Speaker 4: Do you mind that?
Speaker 2: Saying?
Speaker 11: Sure, Weld County Riff's Office.
Speaker 2: Let me let I want to ask you one more thing.
Speaker 2: Is there is there a lot of profiling? I mean,
Speaker 2: is that like literally you were kind of in the
Speaker 2: boys club or the cops club down there? I mean,
Speaker 2: is there good old boys in Weld County or other
Speaker 2: agencies that you know of? There's always bad apples. I
Speaker 2: don't care where you're from, but I'm talking systemic. Would
Speaker 2: you say someone black in Weld County is more likely
Speaker 2: to get pulled over? Or someone Mexican or somebody I
Speaker 2: don't know, I don't know anything, but say a white person.
Speaker 2: Is that like a real deal? Is it still like that?
Speaker 14: I mean, I guess it could be in some jurisdictions,
Speaker 14: But you got to think about it like this mark.
Speaker 14: If you're pulling somebody over for speeding or you know
Speaker 14: they've done something in front of you or whatever, nine
Speaker 14: times out of ten you don't know what the person
Speaker 14: in the car looks like. You've seen the car do
Speaker 14: something and you're pulling them up. You don't know who's
Speaker 14: in the car until you get up to it after
Speaker 14: they stopped.
Speaker 2: In other words, it'd be pretty damn hard to profile.
Speaker 2: You'd probably have to have binoculars.
Speaker 7: I mean, you can probably look at the car right, Like,
Speaker 7: if the car is missing its bumper and missing a
Speaker 7: plate and the windows are tinted out and it's flying
Speaker 7: down the highway, that's probably setting some red flags off.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but that's not racial profiling. That's like that car
Speaker 2: is a piece of drunk but you're profiling the vehicle. Yeah, well, okay,
Speaker 2: I would agree, Shane. Is that okay to do?
Speaker 8: Pro?
Speaker 2: Do you profile vehicles? I would if I was a cop.
Speaker 2: First of all, those windows being that tinted or probably
Speaker 2: not legal.
Speaker 14: It's not profiling the car. You're just looking for equipment
Speaker 14: violations or traffic violations. That's that's what you're paid to do, right,
Speaker 14: is look for anything that's the violation of the lot,
Speaker 14: whether it's the tent, or whether it's a license plate
Speaker 14: that's not on the car or the expired plate, or
Speaker 14: if the driver's beating. You know, it's not profiling per se.
Speaker 14: It's just you're looking for violations of the law. Okay,
Speaker 14: the equipment.
Speaker 2: I promise you. Last question, is this true? Because we
Speaker 2: hear this all the time. The town is running into
Speaker 2: some money problems, and the captain really comes to you
Speaker 2: and say we're gonna step up tickets. I'm not saying
Speaker 2: we're gonna step up enforcement. I'm not saying you're gonna
Speaker 2: make up stuff. But now it's time to get everybody
Speaker 2: out there and get some revenue coming in. Is that
Speaker 2: a real thing where you worked?
Speaker 14: No, But then again, Will County has never had budget problems.
Speaker 2: So yeah, Hey Shane, I appreciate it. Man, great call.
Speaker 2: Three O three seven one three eight two five five.
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Speaker 14: All right, three oh.
Speaker 2: Three seven onety three A two five five. Hey Kelly,
Speaker 2: where are we coming on? Marco? I want to kind
Speaker 2: of move on to other stuff, but I really want
Speaker 2: to get Mark. I am able to talk to an attorney.
Speaker 2: I understand. Uh tell Marco I'm going to come after
Speaker 2: him personally if he doesn't get his butt on here.
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Speaker 2: my best? All right, thank you, Hey, Jeff, what's going on?
Speaker 4: Man?
Speaker 2: I can't believe we're having another issue with a police department.
Speaker 14: Go ahead, sir, Yes, hey, thanks for taking my call.
Speaker 14: Have a have a question related to I run a
Speaker 14: small business in Colorado Springs, and I'll uh I'll uh,
Speaker 14: I won't mention won't once, won't mention the name because
Speaker 14: I'm I'm pursuing a couple avenues here. But what had
Speaker 14: happened is.
Speaker 2: Jeff, Jeff, let me ask you this though. Is it
Speaker 2: like a storefront or like uh or is it like
Speaker 2: you're a landscape or a service and you live at
Speaker 2: your house or is there actually a storefront or an office?
Speaker 14: Yeah, we we have a storefront in the vehicle services industry,
Speaker 14: got it? And I've reported everything that we have. We
Speaker 14: have a very good video surveillance system on site, and
Speaker 14: I've reported everything, basically, everything that has happened on site.
Speaker 14: And I when when something happens, Hey, Jeff.
Speaker 2: Give me an idea though. Are we talking like vandalism
Speaker 2: on customers cars? What are we talking about?
Speaker 14: But vandalism people try to typically they try to break
Speaker 14: into coinboxes on site.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, interesting exactly?
Speaker 11: Yeah?
Speaker 2: And and are they outside or inside the business.
Speaker 14: They are facing the customer coinboxes that face the customer
Speaker 14: for a car wash, basically is what it is?
Speaker 2: Okay, I got you. So they're literally showing up with
Speaker 2: a crowbar or a screwdriver and stealing.
Speaker 14: That's exactly right. And I have reported. I mean literally
Speaker 14: I have. I have thumb drives in a backup video.
Speaker 14: I've reported over one hundred incidents.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, a hundred. So let me ask you this,
Speaker 2: like when you report a particular one has have officers
Speaker 2: actually came out and looked at the video?
Speaker 14: I actually back up all the video. And the one
Speaker 14: of the problems is that property crimes are at the
Speaker 14: low the lowest of the lowest end of the spectrum
Speaker 14: for getting officers to show up.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but we're talking something that's crazy. We're talking one hundred,
Speaker 2: one hundred different calls. I mean, that's absolutely nuts in
Speaker 2: any of the videos. In other words, do you know
Speaker 2: who's doing it?
Speaker 14: Well, I have very good video surveillance, and I'm just
Speaker 14: going to use a specific example. Yeah, September of twenty
Speaker 14: twenty four, at seven fifty am, I have video surveillance
Speaker 14: of a black escalade with three male individuals and their female.
Speaker 4: Counter.
Speaker 2: And what do they do? They pull up, They pull up,
Speaker 2: get out. You have like a picture of the license plate?
Speaker 14: I do, I do have a do have a picture
Speaker 14: of the plate, and they take out their takeout crow bars.
Speaker 14: Three of them are working on the coinbox I happen
Speaker 14: to I have remote video surveillance, so at seven fifty am,
Speaker 14: I report this on a nine to one one call
Speaker 14: to Calado Springs Police Department.
Speaker 2: Wait wait, because it's going down right then and there exactly.
Speaker 2: Hold on, Hold on, man, this is Kelly. I want
Speaker 2: to copy of that video from him if he's telling
Speaker 2: me he's watching it live as these three hoodlums or
Speaker 2: four hoodlums are basically breaking into his cash boxes and
Speaker 2: they don't respond at all while it's going on. That's insane.
Speaker 2: We need to talk to somebody down there. Let's get
Speaker 2: this video though.
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Speaker 4: Man.
Speaker 2: You own a business. I'm just going to say it.
Speaker 2: It's like a car wash. And you have video of
Speaker 2: this was an excursion. What kind of vehicle is a
Speaker 2: big one escalator?
Speaker 14: This was a black escalade yet like a four door,
Speaker 14: fatally new escalator.
Speaker 2: And it pulls up and while your alarm on your
Speaker 2: camera goes off motion detector whatever you got r low,
Speaker 2: I don't care what it is. You get on your
Speaker 2: phone or get on your computer, and you're watching this
Speaker 2: happen in Colorado Springs. You're watching three people or four
Speaker 2: people break into all your boxes to steal the money
Speaker 2: that's in there. And you call up nine to one
Speaker 2: one and tell them at this address, at this business.
Speaker 2: They're there right now stealing and what happened?
Speaker 14: Correct? They were there for forty minutes. The officers didn't
Speaker 14: show up until two fifteen pos.
Speaker 2: This is ridiculous, This is so absurd. Here's what I
Speaker 2: want to do. Okay, here's what I want to do.
Speaker 2: And you've got this video right yeah, and this is
Speaker 2: eight or nine in the morning.
Speaker 14: It was seven fifty am.
Speaker 2: So we're not even talking like a Friday night when
Speaker 2: there's other stuff going on. They can't even say well,
Speaker 2: I guess they can say whatever, But go ahead, Jeff,
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, keep cutting you off. My head's going to explode.
Speaker 2: If I were you, i'd go crazy.
Speaker 14: Oh that's exactly right. And I lost my temper when
Speaker 14: they showed up and I gave him. I gave him
Speaker 14: the riot Act.
Speaker 2: Given the business.
Speaker 14: It goes a little bit further later that I spent
Speaker 14: approximately five to six hours trying to straighten out a
Speaker 14: stainless steel door on my coin box. Approximately three point
Speaker 14: fifteen pm. There's an individual that I'm going to call
Speaker 14: him a transient because that's how we act.
Speaker 2: Yeah, homeless whatever.
Speaker 4: She shows up.
Speaker 14: He shows up, and I've talked to him four or
Speaker 14: five times being on the lot.
Speaker 2: He shows up when you're there or later.
Speaker 14: Exactly now, he shows up while I'm there, he's getting ready.
Speaker 14: So I've told him four or five times prior to
Speaker 14: this in the previous six months, if you're not a
Speaker 14: customer here, you need to get off the lot.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you don't want him there, Okay, So now what?
Speaker 14: And so he tells me call CSPD, see if they
Speaker 14: show up, and what Colorado Springs Police Department has told me,
Speaker 14: is I need a clear picture of his face. I
Speaker 14: need a clear picture of their vehicle.
Speaker 2: Did you get a picture of them.
Speaker 14: I've got a picture of them. While I'm taking a
Speaker 14: picture of them, he hits my hand, he hits my phone.
Speaker 14: My phone goes ten feet in the air, drops to
Speaker 14: the ground. I pick up my phone. I level them,
Speaker 14: took the ground.
Speaker 2: I leave. Wait a minute, and wait, wait, I don't
Speaker 2: want to glance over what you just said. You leveled
Speaker 2: him to the ground. What exactly did you do? Hold on,
Speaker 2: Hold on, Jeff, we're coming up. I'm dying to hear
Speaker 2: the rest of this story. But we've only got about
Speaker 2: forty seconds, and Janey, I'm gonna take your comment real
Speaker 2: quick on checkpoints, Jeff, I promise I want to hear it.
Speaker 2: Not only that, I'm going to probably reach out on
Speaker 2: the first problem. You have to KRD News down in
Speaker 2: the Springs to see if we can't get a news story.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Janey, okay, real quick.
Speaker 4: I'm dirty.
Speaker 14: I'd had a half a bear three hours before I
Speaker 14: drove through a.
Speaker 2: Check All right, Hold on, Janny, I'm sorry, I don't
Speaker 2: want to hear that in twenty seconds. I want to
Speaker 2: hear your story, I really do, and we're going to
Speaker 2: have a criminal defense attorney on real quick. Jeff, I
Speaker 2: hope you didn't get arrested. I swear to God. I
Speaker 2: hope we're gonna find out back and a lot more
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Speaker 2: got h basically breathalyzer. They arrested him on a DUI.
Speaker 2: He did not get charged. He blew zeros and he's
Speaker 2: got a ton of questions. And then Jeff possibly we
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Speaker 2: I'll come to you right after Jeff finishes. She went
Speaker 2: through a checkpoint and I'm not sure what happened, but
Speaker 2: she might have a question for our criminal defense attorney too.
Speaker 2: But I want to hear a story. So Jeff, Colorado
Speaker 2: Springs Police Department, you have made and I have to
Speaker 2: recap for people just joining us, so I'll do it quick, Jeff.
Speaker 2: But you own a business down there. You have called
Speaker 2: the police numerous times because they pull up to your
Speaker 2: car wash or your laundry matt whatever it is where
Speaker 2: there's outside boxes and they break in and they steal
Speaker 2: the money out of there. And you have called numerous
Speaker 2: times over the years, and nothing seems to happen. You've
Speaker 2: done reports. But this particular time we're talking about, you called.
Speaker 2: While people in a keep wanting to say excursion, it's not.
Speaker 2: It's a what escalate escalator? You know they're doing well
Speaker 2: if their rolling on escalator, they must be stealing a
Speaker 2: lot of dough if they're rolling around in the escalade.
Speaker 2: So a black escalade pulls up his motion censor and
Speaker 2: his business goes off. It's eight nine o'clock in the morning.
Speaker 2: He looks at his phone. He sees the video. These
Speaker 2: people were there forty minutes. He called the police, the
Speaker 2: Colorado Springs Police Department. He calls them immediately and he says, hey,
Speaker 2: they're there right now. There's four of them. They're in
Speaker 2: this black truck and they're stealing. They're breaking into my stuff.
Speaker 2: They never show up.
Speaker 4: I assume those people stole money and took off, right.
Speaker 14: Well, they they broke into a billet scepter, and the money,
Speaker 14: the money is insignificant.
Speaker 2: That it's the damage they did to it.
Speaker 14: That's exactly right. Okay, So I've got a long history
Speaker 14: of that happening.
Speaker 2: I got it, Jeff, I get it. It's like breaking
Speaker 2: into a soda machine to steal the you know, the
Speaker 2: one hundred and fifty bucks in there, but you do
Speaker 2: five hundred, one thousand dollars worth of damage to the
Speaker 2: coke machine. But I get it. So the cops don't
Speaker 2: show up. It took him how long to show up?
Speaker 2: Like fifty sixty minutes?
Speaker 14: Oh no, it's two fifteen pm, so three.
Speaker 2: Or four hours later? Can you imagine.
Speaker 14: Over six hours later?
Speaker 8: But in the meantime show up.
Speaker 4: Hold on though, In the meantime what happens.
Speaker 2: You get down there, you start trying to fix the door,
Speaker 2: and this homeless guy shows up, and you've seen him
Speaker 2: there before. You've told him, if you're not a customer,
Speaker 2: get off my property, and basically the cops have told
Speaker 2: you before. In order to do anything with these vagrants,
Speaker 2: you got to get a picture of them so we
Speaker 2: can see what he looks like. So you go to
Speaker 2: take a picture of him, the guy slaps the phone
Speaker 2: out of your hand. It flies up ten feet, comes down.
Speaker 2: You go and get it. And then where we left
Speaker 2: off is you level him right that? Yeah, we need
Speaker 2: to get into that one.
Speaker 11: Yeah.
Speaker 14: I slapped him to the ground.
Speaker 2: You my phone slapped.
Speaker 14: I slapped him to the I slapped him okay, open hand,
Speaker 14: open hand, left to right, slapped him to the ground,
Speaker 14: leveled them. And then I lock up the business and
Speaker 14: I'm walking to my car because I've noticed there's there's
Speaker 14: like three people in his car. So I'm not going
Speaker 14: to get surrounded by three people. So I get in
Speaker 14: my car.
Speaker 2: So the homeless had a car with two other people
Speaker 2: in it.
Speaker 14: That's right, there's three people in that car.
Speaker 2: Now is it possible? And I just want to ask
Speaker 2: you this, Jeff. Is it possible because they're in a
Speaker 2: car and it's a car wash, they were coming to
Speaker 2: wash their car.
Speaker 14: No, they've never they've never washed the car, they've never
Speaker 14: vacuumed their car.
Speaker 2: What do they generally do there?
Speaker 14: Well, this individual, what what has happened in the past
Speaker 14: is vagrants walk around the car wash, they try to
Speaker 14: walk around, they're they're they're looking for opportunity. I'll put
Speaker 14: it that way.
Speaker 2: Wait, fair enough, So what happened now? Did they call
Speaker 2: the police?
Speaker 14: Okay, they called the police, Uh, because I I leveled
Speaker 14: this individual. I left the site and called them. Yeah,
Speaker 14: and then uh, you know, called them, called the Tallatta
Speaker 14: Springs Police Department to tell them that I was assaulted
Speaker 14: by this individual and I've left. Uh, I've left the site.
Speaker 14: So long story short, he gets he gets charged with trespassing.
Speaker 14: He was not charged with assaulting me because of your hand.
Speaker 11: That's right.
Speaker 2: Okay, keep going, you get charged.
Speaker 14: Yes, I got charged with Originally I got charged with
Speaker 14: a felony for slapping him. It was reduced to a
Speaker 14: low level misdemeanor. But the issue is he assaulted me.
Speaker 2: When did this go down.
Speaker 14: The same day, September eighth, And when is the court date?
Speaker 14: I've already gone to I've already gone to court, and
Speaker 14: the the DA reduced based on the video. The DA
Speaker 14: reduced my charge to a low level misdemeanor. However, the
Speaker 14: issue is that individual that assaulted me got charged with trespassing,
Speaker 14: which doesn't make sense. So the reason for my call
Speaker 14: is I'm trying to determine what is my best course
Speaker 14: of action to get this career. Is it internal affairs
Speaker 14: because my assumption, or is it with an attorney.
Speaker 2: I don't know why you told me. You know, there's
Speaker 2: a few things here, man, Hold on, I just I
Speaker 2: want to put you on a hold just for a second.
Speaker 2: Joe Lazera, Joe, I've got two things for you. Hold
Speaker 2: on a second. I hit the wrong line. Hey Joe,
Speaker 2: are you there? I am, Hey man, I've got two
Speaker 2: things for you. One Jeff. I didn't realize he already
Speaker 2: went to court, but I figured I knew where the
Speaker 2: story's going. You know, his story is a vagrance basically
Speaker 2: on his property, and he was trying to get a
Speaker 2: picture of him because the Colorado Springs Police Department, uh simply,
Speaker 2: you know, wanted a picture of him in order to
Speaker 2: do anything. And the guy slaps him, knocks his phone out.
Speaker 2: This guy, I don't know if it's self defense whatever,
Speaker 2: but he levels them. That's his own words. He ends
Speaker 2: up getting a misdemeanor because they have a video of it.
Speaker 2: So they knock it down from the original felling knee
Speaker 2: to a misdemeanor. So I got I got two things here.
Speaker 2: I know you haven't looked at the video. He does
Speaker 2: have the video, but at this point it doesn't even
Speaker 2: matter because it's it's over. But something along there where
Speaker 2: would you argue that in court with the DA?
Speaker 11: Yeah, I mean obviously while the case is pending, you know,
Speaker 11: at a pre truck conference stage or an arrangement stage,
Speaker 11: would argue to the DA that he's acting himself to that. Yeah,
Speaker 11: But if he's already plaid incentives, yeah.
Speaker 2: It doesn't matter. Right now, let's go to the other
Speaker 2: thing that's driving me crazy. You do quite a bit
Speaker 2: of work in Colorado Springs, right right, So this guy
Speaker 2: is saying the first part of his story before it
Speaker 2: got to that, he calls it eight am or nine am. Literally,
Speaker 2: there's people that spend forty five minutes breaking into his
Speaker 2: coin machines or dollar machines at his car wash. He
Speaker 2: calls nine to one one. They don't show up till
Speaker 2: two o'clock. He has called the police for this same
Speaker 2: kind of stuff, different people. Sometimes they're the same people
Speaker 2: about one hundred times and they never show up. I mean,
Speaker 2: is there anything a business owner can possibly do that
Speaker 2: you know of? I mean it seems crazy. You call
Speaker 2: up and go it's going on right now. I'm watching
Speaker 2: it on my camera and we're not talking Friday or
Speaker 2: Saturday night at one am in the morning. We're talking
Speaker 2: eight or nine o'clock in the morning. What are your
Speaker 2: thoughts on that?
Speaker 11: Right? I think you know with these police departments arriving
Speaker 11: later and later, and that they'll argue that a budget issues.
Speaker 11: But I think you know you've got to make them
Speaker 11: complaints known, not only to the police department, but also
Speaker 11: to the media. That's number one. Number two. Yeah, you
Speaker 11: can't really defend to a certain degree. You can't really
Speaker 11: defend your property like that. I mean, you can't use
Speaker 11: any type of deadly force or physical force unless you
Speaker 11: know you're acting in self defense other than putting yourself
Speaker 11: in jeopardy and saying hey you need to stop, or
Speaker 11: having cameras everywhere.
Speaker 13: Yeah, there's not much.
Speaker 11: What else he can do?
Speaker 2: That's crazy. Now listen, here's what I want to do.
Speaker 2: I wanted because I have you on right now. I've
Speaker 2: got Mark and I'm going to bring him up right
Speaker 2: after this. You can hang with us a few minutes.
Speaker 2: I hope I can't. So Mark's son is sixteen years old.
Speaker 2: I just want to paint this picture. He was coming
Speaker 2: back from a lacrosse game, new driver. He ends up
Speaker 2: getting pulled over by a Parker PD. They say he's
Speaker 2: been drinking. They basically arrest him. They take them to
Speaker 2: the station. He blows zero's the cop. I called an apology,
Speaker 2: but the cop says I made a mistake. And the
Speaker 2: parents come and pick him up. And Mark is furious
Speaker 2: about this situation. The question becomes is there anything he
Speaker 2: can or he should do about it? He wants to
Speaker 2: sue everybody. I don't even know what he'd be suing for.
Speaker 2: I don't know what the damages are, but that is
Speaker 2: that question. And then, believe it or not, Janey has
Speaker 2: a question. I think she got a dui at a checkpoint.
Speaker 2: It's insane today. Everybody hold on.
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Speaker 2: All right, three O three seven one three eight two
Speaker 2: five five. I'm gonna go right to our expert. Jill
Speaker 2: loves there, Joe, So I'm gonna lock you in and
Speaker 2: I'm gonna bring markup. Here's the bottom line. His son
Speaker 2: gets arrested, sixteen years old. They get to the station,
Speaker 2: he blows zeros, and the cop basically says, this isn't Parker.
Speaker 2: The cop. Oh, by the way, I don't know how
Speaker 2: relevant it is, probably not, but the cop was brand new.
Speaker 2: In fact, Mark thinks this was his first arrest. He
Speaker 2: was like fresh out of the academy or whatever that
Speaker 2: looks like. And he's really upset. He wants a lawsuit.
Speaker 2: He's talking Fourth Amendment civil rights. So, Joe, give me
Speaker 2: kind of your opinion on it. I would assume this
Speaker 2: happens more than it doesn't.
Speaker 11: So they did not charge him at all.
Speaker 10: Correct, they did not charge him, but they did charge him.
Speaker 10: They processed him, fingerprints, smugshot, everything before he blew zeros.
Speaker 11: A couple different things. One, you want to make sure
Speaker 11: see if that's on his criminal record at all, the arrest.
Speaker 11: That's number one. Number Two, theoretically there is a lawsuit.
Speaker 11: Damages are not huge, but theoretically there is a zoo
Speaker 11: because he was arrested and detained against his will. But
Speaker 11: I'm seeing with regards to these bacs saying more and more,
Speaker 11: I've had more DUIs with dacs at zero or well
Speaker 11: below the legal limit and I ever have in my
Speaker 11: thirty some years.
Speaker 2: Why why?
Speaker 11: I think it has to do with training, I really do.
Speaker 11: And I think that's the number one thing that they're
Speaker 11: not doing. Is there there's an assumption, Hey, if I
Speaker 11: smile alcohol or if you have certain endisha, I'm going
Speaker 11: to just jump to the conclusion it's a duy without
Speaker 11: being thoroughly trained in order to determine whether or not
Speaker 11: it is. I bet you I have at least six
Speaker 11: right now, six cases that are all below the legal limit.
Speaker 2: So wait a minute, then, how was their actual charges
Speaker 2: if they're below the legal limit, or they are they saying, oh,
Speaker 2: you must have been high or what? I guess I
Speaker 2: don't get that, Joe.
Speaker 11: So several of them, most of them are blood tests.
Speaker 11: So they get arrested, they get cited, they have a
Speaker 11: court date, they had submitted to a blood test. Blood
Speaker 11: test comes back either no alcohol or.
Speaker 2: Well blow oh wait a minute, Wait a minute. How
Speaker 2: long did generally take for a blood test?
Speaker 11: Three to six months?
Speaker 2: So wait a second, So what happens in the introm
Speaker 2: before that comes back? Charges are definitely pressed at that
Speaker 2: point because they contacted you. But I mean, like, do
Speaker 2: they lose their license? Do some of these people like
Speaker 2: what happens now?
Speaker 11: Usually not. But usually we're just dealing with multiple court
Speaker 11: appearances because the courts don't really want to set out
Speaker 11: too far in light of the fact that the blood
Speaker 11: tests are taking so long, and that's CBI and that's
Speaker 11: a government agency that's taken so long. I mean, we
Speaker 11: can get a retest and know the number that we're
Speaker 11: dealing with within two to three weeks.
Speaker 2: Oh my goodness, that's crazy. And then you can step
Speaker 2: in and show that to the DA's office or the
Speaker 2: prosecution or the judge whoever you need to and kind
Speaker 2: of put it behind it. But here's the part that
Speaker 2: really sucks about this. These people come out of pocket
Speaker 2: to hire you. Is there any ramifications to go after
Speaker 2: the police officer themselves. I'm sure that that probably can't
Speaker 2: happen under the scope of most normal things. But is
Speaker 2: there any way you can ever get like victim's advocate
Speaker 2: money or something.
Speaker 11: Now, I'm usually other than suing them or you know,
Speaker 11: I mean, the most you can A lot of times
Speaker 11: you can get is pay this person needs to do
Speaker 11: to additional training and you know he can report that.
Speaker 11: But other than that, that's really what happens. I mean
Speaker 11: a lot of these das I have cases right now
Speaker 11: where they're pulled over for say speeding or you know,
Speaker 11: some type of traffic violet and submit to the blood
Speaker 11: test it's below the legal limit or no alcohol rugs,
Speaker 11: and yet they want him to plead to the traffic offense,
Speaker 11: which prohibits on stealing the record, so it stays on
Speaker 11: the record that they got arrested for a DUI or whatever.
Speaker 11: So those are some of the battles that we're fighting
Speaker 11: right now. Some DA's are more than agreeable and dismissing
Speaker 11: the cases, but EAHDA in each office is different.
Speaker 2: Hey, hey, Mark, did your son get a ticket for
Speaker 2: the swerving or the headlights out or did they just
Speaker 2: cut them loose all together, cut them loose. So if
Speaker 2: he did, let's say that cop after making this mistake,
Speaker 2: because honestly, in my opinion, that's what it is. If
Speaker 2: they did give him a ticket for having his headlights
Speaker 2: off or whatever the thing is you're saying, Joe, that
Speaker 2: would still be on his record that he was arrested
Speaker 2: for DUI.
Speaker 11: Well, I think right now it may show up that
Speaker 11: he's got arrested for a DUI.
Speaker 14: Oh my god, that's something you have.
Speaker 11: To look at. Your want to pull that and double.
Speaker 2: Check and what happens if it is on there? Does
Speaker 2: that mean he needs to hire someone like you to
Speaker 2: get it expunged?
Speaker 11: You can seal it. I mean, it's Colorado's now simplified,
Speaker 11: so an individual could do that on their own. But
Speaker 11: that's something I would tell you to just double check,
Speaker 11: because I'm not sure if the jails process and whether
Speaker 11: they would afforded the fingerprints and the charges to CBI
Speaker 11: or not.
Speaker 2: Hey, Joe, the other thing is he said his son
Speaker 2: wanted to do a breath test right then and there
Speaker 2: when pulled over, and they decided to bring him in instead.
Speaker 2: But does that have anything to do with his age?
Speaker 2: If you're sixteen years old? Do they have to bring
Speaker 2: you in? Can you consent to a breathalyzer? I mean,
Speaker 2: what are the rules when you're a minor, but yet
Speaker 2: you're able to drive.
Speaker 11: So with regards to the PBT, you know a lot
Speaker 11: of the officers don't have one.
Speaker 2: Got in their vehicle because you can't even use them
Speaker 2: in court. We always have as well, I missed that
Speaker 2: last part show.
Speaker 11: Oh they're not admissible in court. Yeah, that you can't
Speaker 11: use them?
Speaker 2: Is that why they don't carry him that much?
Speaker 11: Plus they're expensive, they have to be calibrated, and it's
Speaker 11: just a tool that they use kind of like road types.
Speaker 2: Go ahead, Hey, Joe, it's Henry here. I've got a
Speaker 2: question for you.
Speaker 7: So, if the breathalyzer doesn't work in court and they're
Speaker 7: some of your clients are facing these only the roadside, Yeah,
Speaker 7: they're If they're facing these charges and they're waiting for
Speaker 7: that blood sample to come back, what argument is happening
Speaker 7: in court or what proceedings are happening?
Speaker 2: Yeah, why are you there? In other words, you said
Speaker 2: there's court dates Joe, right, So.
Speaker 11: And I just want to clarify the PBT, the portable
Speaker 11: bread test that they give on scene that's not admissible.
Speaker 11: Deck can not be used in court.
Speaker 4: That's right.
Speaker 11: They usually will have it didn't blow it to the
Speaker 11: atoxized machine, which is what this sixteen year old did.
Speaker 11: But I like say, on my cases where we're doing blood,
Speaker 11: we go to court and we simply show up and
Speaker 11: it gets continued. That happens multiple times, until it still
Speaker 11: happens even on people over the legal limit. We're showing
Speaker 11: up to court multiple been having those cases continued while
Speaker 11: we're waiting on Colorado Bureau of Investigation and analyzed bloodst.
Speaker 2: I mean, what are you even doing though? If there's
Speaker 2: not a whole lot of information's got a court there,
Speaker 2: they have to go to court, they're summons to court.
Speaker 2: They have no choice but to show up and right, Joe,
Speaker 2: what's the conversation then we.
Speaker 11: Don't have that. Yeah, I mean we'll have the police
Speaker 11: reports and everything, but waiting on the blood the blooder.
Speaker 11: Often the das cannot offer, make any type of offer
Speaker 11: or do anything until they see the state's ask result.
Speaker 11: So a lot of times you're just simply showing up,
Speaker 11: we don't have blood, and they're continuing it.
Speaker 2: Hey, Joe, so and Mark I'll let you ask whatever
Speaker 2: questions in a second. But between you and Henry, you
Speaker 2: made me think of something we always hear of right
Speaker 2: to a speedy trial. And then when you said, CBI,
Speaker 2: I watched this story four or five months ago, we're
Speaker 2: like rape kits. Like literally, if someone gets raped in Colorado,
Speaker 2: it can take up to two years because we had
Speaker 2: some sham running the lab or something a while back.
Speaker 2: So when there's delays like that, do you, as a
Speaker 2: defense attorney, knowing these delays are crazy, just right to
Speaker 2: a speedy trial ever come into play?
Speaker 11: So you can as soon as you are not guilty, please,
Speaker 11: So sometimes we'll not guilty, glee right away and get
Speaker 11: that clock counting, you know, running. Otherwise, sometimes we'll just continue,
Speaker 11: especially since we'll know the result because we can get
Speaker 11: a second. For example, we tested a private lab, we'll
Speaker 11: know that result. A lot of times we'll discontinue it
Speaker 11: to get medication.
Speaker 10: Mark, you got any questions there any kind of civil
Speaker 10: rights Fourth Amendment violation you see here?
Speaker 11: If I could have one, if you want to call me,
Speaker 11: he was speaking Ry. I'd like to call you offline,
Speaker 11: if you don't mind. Yeah, that'd be fine.
Speaker 2: Yeah, let's do that. Hey, Joe Lozara, I like always, Man,
Speaker 2: I really appreciate you coming on. You're a wealth of
Speaker 2: information when it comes to rights that a lot of
Speaker 2: people don't know. We've got Memorial Day come fourth of July,
Speaker 2: than before you know it, we're running into New Year's
Speaker 2: all the dui stuff, and I love having you on
Speaker 2: just to educate people. So I'll get you on again.
Speaker 2: But I got to give your number out again. Anybody
Speaker 2: out there, and if you have any questions, if you're
Speaker 2: facing something you need help. I mean, I don't know
Speaker 2: what else to say. Why would you go up against
Speaker 2: a DA or an attorney and a judge when you
Speaker 2: don't have anybody on your side? You're crazy, Joe. Last question,
Speaker 2: the outlook when someone has a DUI with an attorney
Speaker 2: or with you, I should say, compared to not having
Speaker 2: an attorney. I mean, like, give us a difference of
Speaker 2: what the outcome could be. I know that's hard to do.
Speaker 11: Yeah, it is hard, but I would say, you know,
Speaker 11: most attorneys are good. Duy attorneys can't evaluate the facts.
Speaker 11: That's number one. Are the legitimate issues. That's a big factor.
Speaker 11: The other thing is just being able to negotiate. I
Speaker 11: mean I did the case the other day. BAC was
Speaker 11: well over almost a point four, and we were able
Speaker 11: to get the very minimum in home detention sentence. So
Speaker 11: those things happen, whereas I think most cases, most individuals
Speaker 11: would walk in and have a higher jail sentence including jail.
Speaker 11: So a lot of times, even in the worst case,
Speaker 11: we can get an home or minimum at home and
Speaker 11: lesser penalties. And that's I think a big area where
Speaker 11: duy attorneys play a huge hole is the mitigation. If
Speaker 11: you can't beat it, how do we minimize that?
Speaker 2: Yeah, exactly. And then the last thing would be on
Speaker 2: that kind of stuff, and I mean DUIs. I mean
Speaker 2: maybe if they're three or four times in on a felony,
Speaker 2: it might be different. But you do have flat rate
Speaker 2: pricing on some of that stuff, right. So in other words,
Speaker 2: if someone calls you now that is facing a DUI
Speaker 2: and they're like, oh, well, you know it's going to
Speaker 2: be what it is necessarily, that's not true. You might
Speaker 2: be able to help them big time by looking at
Speaker 2: the facts, but you can actually give them a quote
Speaker 2: on what it's going to run. Most cases, Oh yeah.
Speaker 11: Absolutely, we do flatb pricing even the felonydus I love.
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Speaker 2: All right, threeho three seven one three eight two five
Speaker 2: five three oh three Martino, you've been ripped off for
Speaker 2: taking advantage of my goodness to Meitred. Do you remember
Speaker 2: a show where we had so many calls for a
Speaker 2: criminal defense attorney? I mean, I just don't remember one
Speaker 2: in a long time.
Speaker 17: No, well, I think it's because this topic just hasn't
Speaker 17: come up in a long time. But people are extremely
Speaker 17: concerned about crime. Like this gentleman in Colorado Springs with
Speaker 17: his car wash. I mean, what is he to do?
Speaker 17: I mean, just forget about what he already went through there.
Speaker 2: This guy's getting ripped off all the time in the
Speaker 2: Colorado Springs Police Department. Just period, don't show up.
Speaker 17: Yeah, and it's going to keep going on, And the
Speaker 17: same thing happens in Denver, the same thing happens.
Speaker 2: I'm going to introduce you. One of these days. You
Speaker 2: and I will take a drive down when time's uh
Speaker 2: one hundred percent back, which should be you know, pretty soon,
Speaker 2: you and I will head down to KRDO in the Springs,
Speaker 2: and I want to introduce you to their TV people
Speaker 2: because occasionally we get a good like that, they'll jump
Speaker 2: on it. And it's basically like having nine News or
Speaker 2: Fox thirty one down there. I believe.
Speaker 4: I don't want to say.
Speaker 2: It, but I think they're the NBC affiliate. It's one
Speaker 2: of the three big ones. But sometimes that works out
Speaker 2: really good. I wish we had that kind of connection here. Generally,
Speaker 2: hear what happens is one of the news people are
Speaker 2: just listening and then they steal the story. But anyhow,
Speaker 2: that's just what I've seen.
Speaker 17: It's a great idea, especially in the context of this
Speaker 17: being a consumer of fish and he's got a video,
Speaker 17: and this gentleman really is a consumer of police services
Speaker 17: and he's getting really crappy service over there, and it
Speaker 17: would be nice to find out what can be done
Speaker 17: about that.
Speaker 2: You know, you were talking to Henry Bradstur in the
Speaker 2: break and you said a very interesting question. You said, Hey,
Speaker 2: how much would a slate roof cost? And right now
Speaker 2: you basically just have Aspholet shingles. Right.
Speaker 17: Well, I was asking the question in the context of
Speaker 17: a home that I want to build.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and oh, compared to compared.
Speaker 17: To what So if I go with a standard roof
Speaker 17: kind of like some of the synthetic material that Henry showed,
Speaker 17: or what I really love is a real slate roof,
Speaker 17: And I said, just roughly speaking, how much more would
Speaker 17: a guy budget for that.
Speaker 2: In a new build? In a new build? Well, I
Speaker 2: got two questions for Henry. One in a new build,
Speaker 2: what was your answer? Roughly like twenty percent more? One
Speaker 2: hundred percent more. I mean a slate roof you're gonna have,
Speaker 2: I mean, correct me, but you're gonna have to have
Speaker 2: stronger decking. I mean, tell me the difference when you're
Speaker 2: when you're thinking of a house that has asphalt compared
Speaker 2: to slate. There's just a lot more that goes into it.
Speaker 7: So slate's probably not going to be quite as heavy
Speaker 7: as a thick concrete tile, but it's going to be close, right,
Speaker 7: So it's going to be you know, you're you're gonna
Speaker 7: have to have a structural engineer out there verify the
Speaker 7: rafters can support the additional weight.
Speaker 2: And making you're building in the home. No, of course,
Speaker 2: that's all that into it though.
Speaker 7: Yeah, from the cost of absolutely so, I mean for
Speaker 7: the slate roof to do a reroof, you're probably looking
Speaker 7: like five times the cost for a new conplace, probably
Speaker 7: about four times. But it really depends on what type
Speaker 7: of slate you get. Yeah, if it's being hand cut
Speaker 7: on site, how much adjustment is going to have to
Speaker 7: happen because this is more of like an artesian crafted roof, right.
Speaker 2: Which the craziest roof you ever heard of.
Speaker 7: You know, these copper roofs are pretty sweet. These copper shingles.
Speaker 2: Do they dent with the hail?
Speaker 6: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Absolutely anything metal will dent with hail. So they probably
Speaker 2: cost a fortune. Yeah, and then I mean even to ensure.
Speaker 2: But they're sweet looking.
Speaker 7: Yeah, they're They're the most expensive roof that we can
Speaker 7: think of. And those copper roofs they also have copper
Speaker 7: gutters and they have copper rivets.
Speaker 2: When it comes to you guys going out and looking
Speaker 2: at a steel roof after a hailstorm or a copper
Speaker 2: roof for something they can dent, isn't there a lot
Speaker 2: of policies that say, long as it's not leaking that
Speaker 2: we're not going to replace it. Is that correct generally speaking?
Speaker 2: Is that how it is now? So it cosmetic? Sure,
Speaker 2: that's exactly what it is. And it really depends where
Speaker 2: the hail hits are. Right, if they are in a
Speaker 2: structural part of that you know shingle they come in panels,
Speaker 2: this stone code steal stuff does. If it's in a
Speaker 2: structural part, that would be terms for a hail claim.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 7: If this is just cosmetic, say that the big hits
Speaker 7: were just mainly on the face, they're gonna deny it.
Speaker 7: And that's why You really need someone who knows what
Speaker 7: they're talking about, because a lot of these roof and
Speaker 7: contractors and for everyone listening, just really take this to heart.
Speaker 7: They're gonna come out there and they're going to tell
Speaker 7: you to file a claim. It's the easiest way for
Speaker 7: them to get a bunch of business. And whoever gets
Speaker 7: denied contract, whoever gets denied, it's no sweat off their back, right,
Speaker 7: they got a shot at it. You really need someone
Speaker 7: and even if you don't use Excel, someone that's gonna
Speaker 7: go out there and really knows what they're doing. It
Speaker 7: only recommends you to file a claim if they really
Speaker 7: believe that you're gonna get a claim, because otherwise you're
Speaker 7: gonna get a claim on your record. Right if you
Speaker 7: call your adjuster and they deny you, you're gonna get
Speaker 7: a claim. Your rates are gonna go up.
Speaker 2: So listen, and what he's saying there is a lot
Speaker 2: of people don't realize this. Here's this thing the insurance
Speaker 2: companies all share. It's called the clue report. And that
Speaker 2: clue report, even if your claim was denied, if you
Speaker 2: put in the claim, your rates most likely are gonna
Speaker 2: go up. And I'll tell you why. They think you're
Speaker 2: gonna call all the time. They're gonna say, this guy
Speaker 2: put a claim in there wasn't even any damage. We
Speaker 2: don't want this kind of customer, so we're gonna charge
Speaker 2: him more money.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely, Mark, and I would really urge all the
Speaker 7: people listening if you think that you have damage from
Speaker 7: last year's hailstorm, that deadline is coming up quick and
Speaker 7: so you really need someone out there to go check
Speaker 7: and see if you have damage. I would not call
Speaker 7: your adjuster, right, you don't want that claim on your record,
Speaker 7: Give Excel a call three oh three seven six' one
Speaker 7: six four zero. Zero we will send an expert out.
Speaker 7: There they'll do a roof. Evaluation if you do not
Speaker 7: have enough game, claim they're not gonna recommend that to.
Speaker 7: You and if we believe that there is damage and
Speaker 7: the insurance denies, it we are going to fight for.
Speaker 2: You, yeah they will, Too there's no doubt about. It
Speaker 2: so excelroofing dot, Com, scott hold on your.
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Speaker 2: Martinez welcome my friends to the only show of its,
Speaker 2: guy and we're here to solve, problems answer, questions take.
Speaker 2: Complaints you, know we do it all on this. Show
Speaker 2: we've talked a lot of criminal investigations, today which is pretty. Cool,
Speaker 2: Yeah Joel's. Aaron but any questions you, have we have
Speaker 2: attorneys lined up left and. Right maybe it's about commercial
Speaker 2: real estate or residential or about anything asset. Protection we've
Speaker 2: got great, attorneys great experts in. General one of them
Speaker 2: joins me in studio. Today Henry bratzy's With Excel, roofing
Speaker 2: and we're gonna talk to him about some deals he
Speaker 2: has coming. Up And i'm telling you when you hear these,
Speaker 2: deals you're gonna love. Them and we're not talking like
Speaker 2: ten percent off of, Roof we're not talking. That we're
Speaker 2: talking about a real deal like gutter cleaning for a
Speaker 2: price that is so cheap it's. Crazy and then solar panel.
Speaker 2: Cleaning if you went through the entire think about, This
Speaker 2: if you went through the entire winner for the past
Speaker 2: four or five years and you have not had your
Speaker 2: solar panels, CLEANED i BET i bet you, anything they're
Speaker 2: probably twenty to twenty five percent less. Effective and when
Speaker 2: you hear how cheap it is to clean these things
Speaker 2: only during the show, today only during the, special you're
Speaker 2: going to be amazed by. It so stick. Around we're
Speaker 2: going to talk about. That but any questions you, have
Speaker 2: maybe a bad contractor maybe a bad, Dentist i'll throw
Speaker 2: that out three zero three seven one three eight two five.
Speaker 2: FIVE i actually had one person go. MARK i used
Speaker 2: to say. DENTIST a lot more bad contractor bad, landlord bad.
Speaker 2: Dentists i'll tell you WHY i say. Dentist we had this,
Speaker 2: scumbag and in my, opinion he was a. Scumbag NOW
Speaker 2: i understand his. Position he wasn't getting paid but this
Speaker 2: woman brought her kid in to get. Braces, okay so
Speaker 2: actually an orthodonist gets braces, on she up losing her.
Speaker 2: JOB i don't know if husband's in the, PICTURE i don't,
Speaker 2: remember but the braces as his teeth are, growing he
Speaker 2: was probably twelve, thirteen whatever it. Was as the braces are,
Speaker 2: growing they start digging. In and both my kids had.
Speaker 2: Braces you got to go get him adjusted all the.
Speaker 2: Time if you don't have enough to pay, cash, generally
Speaker 2: what you do is you pay one hundred bucks two
Speaker 2: hundred bucks a month until the braces are. Off that's
Speaker 2: usually how orthodonis. Work so they started digging into his.
Speaker 2: Gums she missed a, payment he wouldn't adjust. Him he
Speaker 2: decided he'd rather keep the thirteen year old in pain
Speaker 2: instead of wait a little. Bit so we got involved
Speaker 2: and we got it. Handled but that's WHY i bring
Speaker 2: up a dentist, sometimes because what kind of? Dirtbag, Now,
Speaker 2: listen he deserves to get, Paid but there's different avenues
Speaker 2: besides the kid having to go through. THAT i, mean
Speaker 2: it's kind of. Crazy, Now, scott you got a problem
Speaker 2: with an evaporative? Cooler what is going on with?
Speaker 6: It?
Speaker 18: Now, Hey, mark thanks for taking my. Call, SURE i
Speaker 18: know on your referral iss you do not have people
Speaker 18: to deal with evaporative coolers on my. ROOF i have
Speaker 18: this brand known as A Breeze air evaporative. Cooler it's
Speaker 18: kind of like The maybock of evaporative, coolers unlike something
Speaker 18: you get at home deepot or. Lows, well, anyway this
Speaker 18: thing is not. Working it's not working this right. Now
Speaker 18: it's deader in the door nail and the COMPANY i
Speaker 18: bought it from it's been up there about eleven. Years
Speaker 18: the COMPANY i bought it from has blown me off
Speaker 18: twice as far as coming out here and looking at.
Speaker 18: It SO i was wondering if somebody in your listening.
Speaker 2: AUDIENCE i THINK i have hold on a second. MAN
Speaker 2: i think we picked somebody up that does that does do,
Speaker 2: that BUT i don't want to give the name out
Speaker 2: if they, don't So i'm kind of looking through their
Speaker 2: listing right. Now i've worked on one of these. Myself
Speaker 2: are you pretty handy, Guy.
Speaker 4: Well let's, see go, ahead you can keep.
Speaker 14: Talking, YEAH i got an electrical.
Speaker 18: Issue i'm pretty, handy but this is kind of outside
Speaker 18: of my yeah soap with this, thing there's something ELECTED
Speaker 18: i have a motor that's gone out or something on.
Speaker 2: It, YEAH i think a man hold. ON i am so, sorry,
Speaker 2: MAN i don't remember if these guys do or.
Speaker 4: Not in for the life of, ME i do not want.
Speaker 2: To give you the name out over the air if
Speaker 2: they don't do, it Because i've done that before and
Speaker 2: it becomes kind of a nightmare for.
Speaker 17: Whoever Deputy bow knows somebody because he spent his whole
Speaker 17: life in THE.
Speaker 2: Hvac oh yeah he. DID i bet, Hey Deputy, bow
Speaker 2: if you're, listening call into the show Or, kelly see
Speaker 2: if you can Get bow real. Quick when did it go?
Speaker 2: Out by the. Way and the other THING i want
Speaker 2: to tell people why a lot of companies don't work
Speaker 2: on these is simply the liability the one sitting up
Speaker 2: on the. Roof you have water going to, them and
Speaker 2: if something goes wrong and it starts, leaking you can
Speaker 2: create ate an issue with a bad tech or a
Speaker 2: technician that screws up to where you, know there's one
Speaker 2: hundred thousand dollars in. Damage people just decided they're not
Speaker 2: gonna mess with him, anymore and a lot of their insurance,
Speaker 2: companies so you understand, Too. SCOTT a lot of the
Speaker 2: insurance companies are, like if you work on the evaporative
Speaker 2: coolers that are on the, roof we're not going to
Speaker 2: insure you for that. Part so they'd have to come
Speaker 2: out of pocket or they'd have to pay up a
Speaker 2: substantial amount of money that it would just be it
Speaker 2: just be. Crazy SO i, mean really that's why they do.
Speaker 2: It but hold, ON i want you to hang on.
Speaker 2: There she's going to try to Get deputy Bow on
Speaker 2: and let's ask. Him And i'm going to call these.
Speaker 2: People if you hang, MAN i PROMISE i think these guys,
Speaker 2: do But i'm going to call And i'm going to
Speaker 2: figure out if they do for sure after. This so
Speaker 2: you guys hold, tight and then whoever's online, too we're
Speaker 2: getting your info and we'll talk to you in a.
Speaker 2: Minute But, henry so to clean soul, panels they get, dirty,
Speaker 2: truly what is the percentage if they're really grimy greasy
Speaker 2: after a few? WINNERS i, mean can it knock them
Speaker 2: out by twenty thirty percent of? EFFICIENCY i don't know the.
Speaker 7: Answer, yeah, Absolutely and that's always a big concern in
Speaker 7: the solar industry is how long are my panels going to. Last,
Speaker 7: Right so a lot of people they overlook exactly what
Speaker 7: they can do to make them more. Efficient and so
Speaker 7: what we offer is we'll go out there and do
Speaker 7: the decontamination rents for fifteen bucks a, panel and that
Speaker 7: will improve the efficiency of the solar.
Speaker 2: Panels they look like new when you're, done OR i,
Speaker 2: mean are they clean as they can? Get, yeah they're
Speaker 2: gonna be pretty. Shiny and then you're fifteen bucks a. Panel,
Speaker 2: yep what's the average array?
Speaker 7: Have the average array is about ten to fifteen to
Speaker 7: twenty panels something like. That and so for a ten panel,
Speaker 7: system one hundred and fifty, bucks, Right.
Speaker 2: So one hundred and fifty. Bucks now there's no other
Speaker 2: fees on top of. That in other, words you don't
Speaker 2: charge to drive out. There it's one hundred and fifty
Speaker 2: bucks if you have ten. Panels, yeah that's.
Speaker 7: That's the rate that we have. Going AND i mean
Speaker 7: really in the scheme of, things you think you'd.
Speaker 2: Be pretty you're people busy man.
Speaker 7: To clean the, panels, right BUT i mean that one
Speaker 7: hundred and fifty bucks if that increases your efficiency for
Speaker 7: a full.
Speaker 2: Year, no here's one hundred and fifty.
Speaker 11: Bucks is.
Speaker 2: Nothing the only reason they're doing this is to keep
Speaker 2: the guys busy till the hailstorms. Come so anybody, listening
Speaker 2: you'd be crazy not to take advantage of. IT i,
Speaker 2: mean you're talking fifteen bucks a. Panel they're going to
Speaker 2: get up there and let's just say what it. Is
Speaker 2: you're going to powerwash the hell out of, it, Right.
Speaker 2: Yeah there's also some special cleaner that we.
Speaker 4: Use it gets the.
Speaker 2: Crime yeah, YEAH i mean they're going to look panels and.
Speaker 2: Like and Like henry, said the other thing is they're
Speaker 2: not only going to look, great but on top of,
Speaker 2: that it's going to be more. Efficient no matter, what
Speaker 2: if they get grimy, enough you might as well put
Speaker 2: a piece of cardboard over.
Speaker 10: Them.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 7: Absolutely and you know what this reminds. Me last TIME
Speaker 7: i was on the, air we were doing that ninety nine
Speaker 7: dollars gutter cleaning.
Speaker 2: Special yeah, yeah and you know what how many people
Speaker 2: did we have sign up for?
Speaker 7: That we had so many people sign up for? That Fifty,
Speaker 7: yeah like fifty people that day right away we had.
Speaker 7: That the phone's blowing up and you, KNOW i will
Speaker 7: do the same thing again.
Speaker 2: Today, Okay so listen to, this folks And the only
Speaker 2: REASON i brought it up last time is they come.
Speaker 2: Out we have pine.
Speaker 4: Needles at our.
Speaker 2: House we're out In franktown and we have trees that
Speaker 2: are one hundred feet and they're. Everywhere it's like living
Speaker 2: in the. Woods in, fact it is living in the.
Speaker 2: Woods and what happens this time of, year actually a
Speaker 2: couple months, ago the pine needles just come. DOWN i
Speaker 2: don't care what gutter GUARDS i have. Tried i've tried,
Speaker 2: Mesh i've tried, everything AND i end up taking them
Speaker 2: off because he's. Stupid pine, needles by the kazillions end
Speaker 2: up going through WHATEVER i, have or they end up
Speaker 2: if you have a, helmet they end up going right
Speaker 2: down with the water and getting. There it just doesn't
Speaker 2: matter WHAT i. Do so FINALLY i took them off
Speaker 2: AND i, Said i'm just gonna Have excel. Out they're
Speaker 2: the ones that did my. Roof i'm going to have
Speaker 2: them out twice a year and they're going to clean my.
Speaker 2: Gutters and they always did it the same. Way if
Speaker 2: you have one story, house it was one ninety, nine
Speaker 2: a two story house two ninety, nine AND i guess
Speaker 2: that's about. IT i, MEAN i maybe if you had
Speaker 2: a three story house three ninety the prices went.
Speaker 7: Up our standard rate is two ninety, nine and then
Speaker 7: it goes up to three ninety. NINE i, mean you gotta, remember,
Speaker 7: though that's a fixed. Rate and this is pretty funny. Story,
Speaker 7: actually the last time we ran that special it was,
Speaker 7: Great like we got a bunch of great. Reception we
Speaker 7: went out there cleaned a bunch of people's gutters for
Speaker 7: just ninety nine. Bucks, Right SO i found out that
Speaker 7: we had one house somewhere In Cherry.
Speaker 2: Hill's that was just Mass oh, yeah, yeah, Yeah Mass
Speaker 2: john always such or. SOMETHING i, mean this thing was.
Speaker 7: Huge it took a full crew of guys how, long.
Speaker 2: All, day all, day and it was just for this
Speaker 2: this one ninety nine bucks for the special price in ninety.
Speaker 2: Nine AND i don't. KNOW i think the project manager
Speaker 2: gave me a call and was telling me when someone
Speaker 2: got a ten million dollar, house maybe fifteen, million maybe
Speaker 2: twenty million over Where peyton lived In, lway and they
Speaker 2: call up on the Ninety, god bless your, soul And
Speaker 2: i'll tell.
Speaker 7: You why what we did? IT i do the same
Speaker 7: thing they at least Over. TIP i don't think we got,
Speaker 7: zims but we stuck by our, word we took care
Speaker 7: of you know what it.
Speaker 2: Was it was probably another company that usually comes out
Speaker 2: and does it for a couple thousand that got them
Speaker 2: to do it out ninety nine and then they put
Speaker 2: nineteen hundred bucks in their.
Speaker 7: Pocket just to, remember the amount of people though that
Speaker 7: have a house like that is pretty.
Speaker 2: Slim so plus you want, listen let's be true. Too
Speaker 2: you went out, there did them a solid for ninety nine.
Speaker 2: Bucks my got a full crew for a full day
Speaker 2: for a hundred. Bucks if they do have hell, DAMAGE
Speaker 2: i bet they call. You, WELL i sure hope SO
Speaker 2: i would have both shipped you.
Speaker 7: After you know, WHAT i just want to make sure
Speaker 7: everyone list everyone listening knows. This we'll come and clean
Speaker 7: your gutters from.
Speaker 2: Ninety nine bucks, night and they do.
Speaker 4: It they.
Speaker 2: Do it's a commercial. Building it's real.
Speaker 7: Deal we're gonna charge something else because, no, well this
Speaker 7: is for regular this is residential. Homes this isn't multifamily
Speaker 7: if you have a big apartment building or a.
Speaker 2: Complex this is a residential. House and here's what they.
Speaker 2: Do And i've done it with them for three four years.
Speaker 2: Now they come, out they send a crew, out they
Speaker 2: clean the gutters so, well you can't believe. It they
Speaker 2: even get up there with hoses and go down the
Speaker 2: down spouts to make sure the down spouts just flow.
Speaker 2: Perfectly you could go up. There when they're, Done you're
Speaker 2: not gonna find, leaves, dirt. Anything they clean the gutters
Speaker 2: all the way around and for ninety nine. Bucks once,
Speaker 2: again this is what it. Is they're gonna do. It
Speaker 2: and then when there's a hailstorm and you need a,
Speaker 2: roof you're going to Remember excel dig you the solid
Speaker 2: and you're gonna give them a. Call by the, way
Speaker 2: even if when you do get a roof done by,
Speaker 2: them you don't pay them a cent until you're one
Speaker 2: hundred percent. CONTENT i mean you. Can't you can't beat
Speaker 2: them as a. Company they've been In colorado forever in a.
Speaker 2: Day henry's dad started, it how long, ago thirty two.
Speaker 2: Years in counting thirty two, YEARS i think they're probably
Speaker 2: one of the, largest if not the largest roofer. Here
Speaker 2: and the other thing, is if there ever is a
Speaker 2: warranty issue or maybe a bad run of shingles or,
Speaker 2: something these guys are. Here they're not door. Knockers they
Speaker 2: don't come here sell you a roof then go to
Speaker 2: the next storm In. Texas it just doesn't work that.
Speaker 2: Way that ninety nine bucks is. Incredible hold, on.
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Speaker 4: Big big.
Speaker 2: Dollars, Now Deputy, Boson, Hey Deputy bow we had a, Caller, Hi,
Speaker 2: mark Hey, man who do you know that works on swamp? Coolers?
Speaker 13: Yeah so he the caller specified a breeze air and
Speaker 13: that's kind of an esoteric cadillact swamp.
Speaker 2: Cooler like how much would something like that? Cost? NEW i, mean, like,
Speaker 2: really what's A cadillac swamp cooler?
Speaker 13: Run they're about three times the price of a standard
Speaker 13: uh swamp.
Speaker 6: Cooler.
Speaker 13: Wow it as a veritable speed. Motor they're high. Efficient
Speaker 13: so what he has to do is called the factory.
Speaker 13: Representative they're In. Denver it's CALLED MJ m an.
Speaker 2: ASSOCIATE Mj wait WAIT. Mjm, Yeah Mary, John, mary that's my.
Speaker 2: Initials those are my.
Speaker 4: Initials.
Speaker 13: God, well then they need to call you and you
Speaker 13: need to go out.
Speaker 14: Work on the.
Speaker 13: Cooler.
Speaker 2: Mind, well that's a great. Point i'll go out there with. You,
Speaker 2: yeah they'll take care of. It, so but they'll have
Speaker 2: a list of people that work on, them.
Speaker 13: Right and those people that work on those scorers have
Speaker 13: to go to their.
Speaker 2: Schools he thinks it's an electrical. Issue just from your,
Speaker 2: background what would you guess it? Was in other, words
Speaker 2: he's saying it's either the motor or no power to.
Speaker 2: IT i would think the. Breaker if the breaker was,
Speaker 2: good it would probably be the, motor, right although the
Speaker 2: way you're describing it with a variable, motor there's probably
Speaker 2: a couple motherboards.
Speaker 13: Involved, yeah as an electrically commutated motor and it's controlled
Speaker 13: by three circuit boards and actually converts it TO. Dc
Speaker 13: they're pretty. Complicated that's why he needs to call the
Speaker 13: RENT i. HAVE i can give the number out on the.
Speaker 2: Air, yeah go, ahead just go ahead and give it
Speaker 2: out in case that guy's. Listening, yeah so the number three.
Speaker 13: Oh three seven nine zero seven, thousand and he just
Speaker 13: needs the COLONY v could give him the model. Number
Speaker 13: they have a list of authorized repair people that can
Speaker 13: work on that particular.
Speaker 4: Unit you, know, bo.
Speaker 2: What's crazy is IF i go back Pre, COVID i
Speaker 2: had fix it twenty four to seven plumb line in
Speaker 2: about five other companies on our referral list that would
Speaker 2: all work or at least most of them would work
Speaker 2: on swamp, coolers and almost zero of them. Do now
Speaker 2: the liability has gone absolutely through the roof on. Them
Speaker 2: do you do you have any insight onto that or
Speaker 2: it's purely what they tell me it's.
Speaker 13: Damage, well it's because of their potential for water leaks
Speaker 13: because you get the thing on the roof and a
Speaker 13: lot of if you don't look things, upright you could
Speaker 13: cause thousands of dollars of damage from you know that
Speaker 13: quarterage waterline, dripping and you know there's liability if potential
Speaker 13: tests falling off the. Roof because he'd never.
Speaker 2: Fitten go ahead him.
Speaker 11: Right.
Speaker 7: Yeah to add to that comment as a, roofer that's
Speaker 7: often one thing that people determine is a roof leak
Speaker 7: is when their swamp coolers are. Leaking they call us
Speaker 7: up and they tell, us oh my, gosh my whole
Speaker 7: roof is a that with. Water, absolutely especially if we
Speaker 7: install the.
Speaker 2: Roof they call us. Up they think that our install is.
Speaker 7: Failing we get up, there the swamp cooler is just
Speaker 7: dumping water straight.
Speaker 2: Henri so like when you get a hail claim and
Speaker 2: you get up there and there's a swamp, cooler do
Speaker 2: your people take it off or how does that or
Speaker 2: do you hire an outside? Company how does that work
Speaker 2: so we can detach and reset. It we'll use a
Speaker 2: sub for. That, yeah, okay, YEAH i mean really you're
Speaker 2: using a plumber or whoever you're comfortable with to make
Speaker 2: sure it's not, Leaking.
Speaker 7: Yeah depending on how it's, attached, right like if it's
Speaker 7: got a bunch of fasteners and waterlines to. It, Yeah
Speaker 7: and we don't want to we don't want to mess with.
Speaker 7: It but usually what will happen is we'll do the
Speaker 7: roof one two three years later they'll call us up
Speaker 7: saying that there's a roof. Leak, well, actually, yeah it's
Speaker 7: a mechanical mechanical failure and it looks like a roof.
Speaker 7: Leak and that's a really good point because those are big.
Speaker 2: Problems, hey, hey, bo why my buddy his name Was
Speaker 2: larry and he. Passed BUT i mean he was a
Speaker 2: really good friend of. Mine he had a place In
Speaker 2: littleton and he had a swamp cooler and that thing worked,
Speaker 2: great but it was on like his back. Patio why
Speaker 2: are they on the. ROOF i don't quite understand. That
Speaker 2: is there a science reason for?
Speaker 13: That, well bear swamp, coole the evaporative cop works on direct,
Speaker 13: sunlight and then on the roof you get four, sides got.
Speaker 2: It compared to the, backside you're.
Speaker 13: Only getting one. Side and if they have hooked up
Speaker 13: the core on the side of the, house you're only
Speaker 13: getting like fifty percent efficiency because the sun that's not
Speaker 13: the cooler's. Work when they get the most direct, sunlight
Speaker 13: that's what causes the.
Speaker 14: Evaporation that's it don't work well.
Speaker 13: Along the side of the.
Speaker 2: House, yeah so His. Henry this is. FUNNY a buddy
Speaker 2: of mine gave me some movie. Bills SO i had
Speaker 2: a stack of ten thousand fake, hundreds and they, say
Speaker 2: you know they look, real but if, YOU i mean,
Speaker 2: really you'd never pass them off. Anywhere they're for. Movies
Speaker 2: and his, Daughter bo's daughter was babysitting our dogs or
Speaker 2: house sitting for us when we went To nashville about
Speaker 2: a week, ago and my friend brought me over this
Speaker 2: this stack of fake, money and basically we were just
Speaker 2: laughing about, it AND i put it down then we.
Speaker 2: Left the next, day she shows. Up she thinks it's real,
Speaker 2: money and like we're testing her to see if she'll
Speaker 2: take ten thousand dollars or something. Strange but she called
Speaker 2: even after you told her it was, Fake, bo she kept,
Speaker 2: calling didn't.
Speaker 6: She she called me.
Speaker 13: Twice she was very worried she wouldn't touch the, money
Speaker 13: and she kept me Picking AND i was fooled by
Speaker 13: it too TILL i blew it.
Speaker 2: Up, well and here's the. PROBLEM i thought about. THIS
Speaker 2: i left it there just not thinking about. It we've
Speaker 2: had painters in the, House we've had our maids in the.
Speaker 2: HOUSE i bet everybody is, going what the hell is?
Speaker 2: This so FINALLY i just threw it in our junk, drawer.
Speaker 7: Especially, nowadays because like when you see a stock of
Speaker 7: ten thousand, dollars it really looks. SUBSTANTIAL i mean me,
Speaker 7: PERSONALLY i pay everything on a credit. Card, Right it's
Speaker 7: all electronic, now so ANYTIME i, have, like you, know some,
Speaker 7: cash maybe all get paid for a roof in. Cash,
Speaker 7: yeah it feels so much more than a. Check that's
Speaker 7: four times the.
Speaker 2: Amount. Sure so what my buddy did and why he
Speaker 2: brought it over is he does these. Experiments we'll be
Speaker 2: like in a casino and he'll put this fake bill
Speaker 2: down by one of the slot machines to see who
Speaker 2: tries to sneak it and pick it up without turning
Speaker 2: it into, security or at a restaurant Or the latest
Speaker 2: was at an airport In. Nashville we were At, Denver
Speaker 2: dia flying To, nashville and we were in The Capitol One.
Speaker 2: Club it's an airport club and basically what happens. There, hey,
Speaker 2: BO i really appreciate you coming on and giving that.
Speaker 2: Information so he puts it down right behind a lady
Speaker 2: and one of the people that are a server in
Speaker 2: the club walks by and takes her foot and skirts
Speaker 2: it over behind the wall and then picks it up and.
Speaker 2: Leaves so instead of, saying, hey did you drop this?
Speaker 2: Money absolutely. Nothing And i'll tell you, what with the
Speaker 2: exception of the, casino he does it all the. Time
Speaker 2: i'm only with him maybe once every two, months if
Speaker 2: i'll of the four of us are getting, together but
Speaker 2: only one, time and that was in the. Casino because in,
Speaker 2: casinos if you find, money you got to turn them
Speaker 2: in or else you're like in big, trouble, man like big.
Speaker 2: Trouble so in the, casino the person we saw ten
Speaker 2: people walk by and see it wanting to pick it.
Speaker 2: Up no one touched, it and then one of them
Speaker 2: must have called, security because then like three security guards
Speaker 2: come over and they're all looking at it and they
Speaker 2: pick it, up AND.
Speaker 4: I don't know what they did with. It it's.
Speaker 2: Crazy it's a great social. Experiment.
Speaker 7: Absolutely i'm just, thinking like IF i was to vet
Speaker 7: a house, cleaner. RIGHT i think it would probably be
Speaker 7: a good idea to just leave some cash around, you real,
Speaker 7: cash and then see if they take it. Right, yeah
Speaker 7: and so then you really know if you can trust.
Speaker 2: Them, yeah that's, true or they play the long game
Speaker 2: and just steal your house.
Speaker 4: Hold on.
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Speaker 2: two five. Five if you didn't hear the, deal we're
Speaker 2: going to recap it right. Now deal of the. Day
Speaker 2: and it's. Unbelievable i've been Having excel. Roofing you know,
Speaker 2: what DO i get a refund on the full Price
Speaker 2: i've been? Spending CAN i do? That will you do?
Speaker 11: That?
Speaker 2: Henry that's a no refund for What i've been paying
Speaker 2: two ninety nine or three ninety nine to have my gutters.
Speaker 2: Claimed now you're saying it's only ninety nine dollars for
Speaker 2: people they call today or tomorrow or if they hear
Speaker 2: this on the. Podcast so When i'm asking, you for
Speaker 2: the past four, YEARS i have SPENT i think three
Speaker 2: ninety nine or two ninety nine twice a year for
Speaker 2: you guys to come out and clean my gutters In.
Speaker 2: Franktown so What i'm saying is that's two four six
Speaker 2: eight times. Three that's twenty four hundred where it should
Speaker 2: have only been two four six. Eight will you give
Speaker 2: me twenty two hundred?
Speaker 7: Dollars, WELL i think we could factor some stuff into this, equation, right,
Speaker 7: yeah the ads. GAME i think we could figure out
Speaker 7: some trade.
Speaker 4: Out oh that's.
Speaker 2: True that was fun actually on your. Birthday hey seriously, though, folks,
Speaker 2: listen ninety nine bucks and that's for a one or
Speaker 2: two story residential.
Speaker 7: Yep and so ninety nine dollars for a residential. Home,
Speaker 7: right this is no commercial? Buildings, yeah, yeah nothing, insane,
Speaker 7: Right so if it's a big, hoa that does not.
Speaker 7: Apply so ninety nine bucks Call excel THREE zho three
Speaker 7: seven six one at sixty four zero. Zero we are
Speaker 7: also doing a solar panel.
Speaker 2: Cleaning that's right.
Speaker 7: Deal so we go up there and we do a decon.
Speaker 7: Wash we take care of the. Panels it'll make them
Speaker 7: a lot more, efficient, right you don't want to lose
Speaker 7: that efficiency just because they're. Dirty it's usually, overlooked but
Speaker 7: it does. Happen so we'll go out there and we
Speaker 7: will clean each panel for fifteen. Bucks it's three oh
Speaker 7: three seven sixty one six four zero.
Speaker 2: Zero there's your big roofing. Supplier do you guys use just?
Speaker 2: ONE i, MEAN i know there's different, products like the
Speaker 2: one you sold me is F, Wave but as far
Speaker 2: as the general the general supplier you?
Speaker 4: Use who is?
Speaker 7: It so there's a supplier in a, manufacturer, right so
Speaker 7: our go to. SUPPLIER i personally really Like pacific and
Speaker 7: that's WHERE i pushed a lot of our Business pacific.
Speaker 2: Supply and why is? That why do you like?
Speaker 7: Them you know there's a lot of, companies, Right there's
Speaker 7: LIKE abc and like Golf. Eegel there's a lot of
Speaker 7: these big distribution. Houses but their service it just it
Speaker 7: doesn't quite line up to what they what they, claim,
Speaker 7: right So, pacific we really Like. Pacific there are safeties
Speaker 7: at a high. Standard they take care of, us which
Speaker 7: allows us to take care of our. Customers and the
Speaker 7: same thing goes With Owen's. Corning Owen's corning is a fantastic.
Speaker 7: Manufacturer they take care of, warranties, Right we take care
Speaker 7: of our. Roofs we go back out and we want
Speaker 7: to repair anything that's, leaking anything that. Fails it happens,
Speaker 7: rarely but we want to make sure we partner with
Speaker 7: people that have that same.
Speaker 4: Mindsel so if it's a problem with the shingle, Itself
Speaker 4: owens steps straight up and pays you, Guys.
Speaker 7: And you know what That's it's hard to find people
Speaker 7: like that because, nowadays all these, manufacturers all these, companies
Speaker 7: they'll tell you that they're going to step up to
Speaker 7: the plate and deal with. It but you really find
Speaker 7: out what people are made of when something goes. Wrong
Speaker 7: And Owen's corning stands behind their warranties and they take
Speaker 7: care of.
Speaker 2: People you, KNOW i was talking Or demetri AND I
Speaker 2: we're talking To henry during the. Break so it's kind
Speaker 2: of strange he's going to be in the roofing, business
Speaker 2: probably his whole. Life he was born into. It you,
Speaker 2: Know Jay bretts has been coming on. HERE i don't
Speaker 2: Remember jay not being, Here SO i mean we're talking
Speaker 2: twenty plus. Years and then you, know now you're in
Speaker 2: your two you're basically running the, company and you were
Speaker 2: talking interestingly, ENOUGH i was telling the story When suzanne
Speaker 2: AND i owned our cake. ROUTE i was probably nineteen,
Speaker 2: actually and she was, sixteen and we owned a cake Route, Untils,
Speaker 2: oklahoma where we would go and sell our. Cakes and
Speaker 2: these cakes were made by a massive. Bakery basically anything
Speaker 2: host is, sold we would, sell but we had a
Speaker 2: private label on. It so we would go work the
Speaker 2: stores and everybody thought we were brother and, sister which is,
Speaker 2: crazy and they thought we worked for our, parents and
Speaker 2: none of that was. True AND i was always afraid
Speaker 2: to actually tell people that because we were so. Young
Speaker 2: they'd be, like why are we doing business with a
Speaker 2: sixteen year?
Speaker 4: OLD i, mean it would be.
Speaker 2: Insane and then you brought Up, henry and it's a great.
Speaker 2: Story the same thing happened to. You you decided to
Speaker 2: start sourcing bicycle grips for like mountain bikes or any
Speaker 2: kind of bike and you sourced them From, china because
Speaker 2: every time you'd go to replace, yours they were thirty.
Speaker 2: Bucks and you figured out you could make these or
Speaker 2: buy these things out Of china for three. Bucks and
Speaker 2: you knocked down the door of one, hundred two, hundred three,
Speaker 2: hundred four hundred different bike shops around the states around
Speaker 2: us selling. Them that's how old were you when you were?
Speaker 4: Doing?
Speaker 7: That was my business In denver WHEN i was, sixteen
Speaker 7: AND i think the the old Man, jay he really
Speaker 7: wanted to do a see WHAT i, was you, know
Speaker 7: able to? Handle SO i ordered a bunch of these
Speaker 7: grips From. CHINA i realized the margin was. There it
Speaker 7: was OVER. Covid so that was one thing that was
Speaker 7: going for.
Speaker 13: Me.
Speaker 7: Yeah AND i would do these consignments to like shops
Speaker 7: all across the.
Speaker 2: Country he'd worked.
Speaker 7: Shelves i'd load my my car up with all these
Speaker 7: boxes of grips AND i would go to all these
Speaker 7: bike shops and do the consignment. Deals AND i got
Speaker 7: up TO i had all a majority of the shops In,
Speaker 7: Colorado New, Mexico arizona love. It AND i had hundreds
Speaker 7: of accounts across this side of the. COUNTRY i had
Speaker 7: two sales, reps and you, KNOW i got good at.
Speaker 7: It there was a time, THOUGH i was in In
Speaker 7: New mexico right AND i couldn't find a, hotel SO
Speaker 7: i had to sleep in my car BECAUSE i kept
Speaker 7: getting denied for hotels with a bunch of bike, grips
Speaker 7: and it was like Downtown.
Speaker 2: Albuquerque oh. Nice i'll never forget, that, nil never forget that.
Speaker 2: Night you, KNOW i won't even stop In. ALBUQUERQUE i
Speaker 2: drive through. It, man If i'm going To, phoenix, Literally
Speaker 2: i'll stop In Santa fe and then we will cruise
Speaker 2: cruise Through. Albuquerque you, KNOW i love the way your
Speaker 2: parents raised. You We suzanne AND i were very similar
Speaker 2: with our. Kids if they didn't have something going, on
Speaker 2: we made something going. On when they went into taekwondo
Speaker 2: with three years, old they were not allowed to. Quit
Speaker 2: we taught it just like, school like high. School and you,
Speaker 2: know over the years they wanted to quit all the.
Speaker 2: Time it didn't. Matter it was just like. School when
Speaker 2: it came to sixteen and getting a, car we got
Speaker 2: them a. Car but they had to.
Speaker 6: Work.
Speaker 2: Period when they had jobs and they were still living
Speaker 2: under our, roof half of every nickel they made they
Speaker 2: had to put into savings and it was just a
Speaker 2: regiment and it's stuck with. Them AND i love. That
Speaker 2: AND i can tell your parents did that with.
Speaker 4: You, Man it's.
Speaker 2: Awesome, yeah WELL i know, that especially when my dad's
Speaker 2: a harder, Parent jay or your. Mom oh my dad for, Sure.
Speaker 6: Jay.
Speaker 7: Yeah, absolutely when he got into this, business he had
Speaker 7: to struggle really really.
Speaker 11: Hard.
Speaker 7: COURSE i know that he wanted to put me through
Speaker 7: some of, that AND i have certainly gone through a
Speaker 7: lot of, that.
Speaker 4: And by, design most likely.
Speaker 7: He's told me stories about when he was In, texas
Speaker 7: so his just quick rundown through his. Story he started
Speaker 7: roofing In denver.
Speaker 2: And hold, on hold, on let me take. THIS i
Speaker 2: do want to hear. It till hold on.
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