Speaker 1: I think there's scripture that should worry anybody who loves
God and doesn't want to disappoint God. And I think
if from time to time we're not worried by scripture,
or it doesn't cause conflict in us, it doesn't cause
restling match between flesh and spirit, then perhaps we're not
really in the word. I want to talk about that,
but I also want to honor Donald John Trump for
treating black journalists as he does every other adversarial journalist.
And I want to do this by way of comparison
with some friends of mine here In fact, I should
have them on to talk about this. But every black
professional man I got to know personal training, to black
personal trainers, to friends in media black people, and a
black friend tech told me what their favored form of
racism is and it relates to how President Trunk treated
this journalist. We'll talk about that with the help of
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Really excited to honor what President Trump did at the
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favored form of racism that my friends in Seattle told
me about, one by one, all separately, never in the
same room. Several different instances of how this came about.
One was in tech. Gentlemen I got to know in
tech and black guy got to know him. I was
working at Microsoft. He worked in Los Angeles and had
been in the entertainment world and had made his way
over to tech. Had a very good tech mind. And
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this event that Microsoft had put on and had There
was this painter. It's one of those guys who he
speed paints, and the trick is you don't know what
he's painted until he turns it right side up and
finishes it. And he was doing this to a Rolling
Stone song. We had a concert there and I don't remember,
it's some big bands there and we'd gone out to
dinner with a bunch of advertisers. And remember this is
New York City and this is liberal you know, no racism.
And these are all liberals, doctrinaire democrat liberals. And we
went out to dinner. Guy was the senior executive there,
not me guy, and the rule of Microsoft is the
senior executive pays. And he got out his card and
a white woman turned to him and said, are you
going to be okay with that in your card? It's
a lot of money. First of all, it's a Microsoft
corporate card. Secondly, it happens that guy didn't need a
dime from anybody he worked because he loved it. He'd
made a ton of money producing films and music and
videos and owned a ton of intellectual p And he
looked at her and said, I'm pretty sure if the
Microsoft card doesn't handle it, my optimum will. He told
me later, that's the sort of racism I can't stand.
So do you think that was racism? He goes, Did
she turn to you and say it okay? In Seattle,
I've told the story before about my friend Terry coming
into the radio station and everyone would stand up, Oh, Terry, Terry,
It's always a wonderful day when you're here at him
sitting across from me, going and I looked at him,
I go does that ever bother you? He goes, dude,
do they think I don't know they'll do that to you?
Do you get that tripot when you walk in here?
No one does. Only only black people. I know. Last
one is probably the most pandering and cringey, as my
daughter would say. Had a personal trainer named Steve, huge,
unbelievably strong man. I've told you the stories about how
strong this guy was. And nicest dude, but big, strong,
athletic looking, sixty four year old black man. He was
in a store in Liberal, the most liberal part of Seattle.
He and his wife are down, they're shopping. She happens
to be white. See if what happens to be black.
He is a nutrition nut. So he had two separate
products he was looking at and he was comparing the
macros and the ingredients, and a liberal white woman and
I kid you not his story, not mine, in a
Hilary Clinton shirt, came up to him. She said, they
can make those products really confusing. I'm a nurse. Let
me know if I can help a nurse. They each
said they prefer all of them, all of my black friends.
And Settle said, we prefer the old fashioned KKK style racism.
We would rather see a Dixie flag and a kick
the Blacks Out T shirt than that form of racism.
So I'll tell you why I'm talking about this in
a second. I'll just show you what President Trump did,
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into this tomorrow. President Trump being President Trump in the
face of aggressive questioning, and President Trump acting with complete, utter,
unmitigated respect for black people by not pandering.
Speaker 3: It's not true. You have told four congressmen women of
color who are American citizens, to go back to where
they came from. You have used words like animal and
rabbit to describe black district attorneys. You've attacked black journalists,
calling them a loser, saying the questions that they ask
are quote stupid and racist. You've had dinner with the
white supremacists at your marologue resort. So my question, sir,
now that you are asking black supporters to vote for you,
why should black voters trust you after you have used
language like that.
Speaker 4: Well, first of all, I don't think i've ever been
asked a question, so in such a horrible manner. First question,
you don't even say, hello, how are you? Are you
with ABC? Because I think they're a fake news network,
a terrible net work, And I think it's disgraceful that
I came here in good spirit. I love the black
population of this country. I've done so much for the
black population of this country, including employment, including Opportunity Zones
with Senator Tim Scott of South Carolina, which is one
of the greatest programs ever for black workers and black entrepreneurs.
I've done so much. And you know, and I say this, Historically,
black colleges and universities were out of money. They were
stone call broke, and I saved them and I gave
them long term financing and nobody else was doing it.
I think it's a very rude introduction. I don't know
exactly why you would do something like that. And let
me go a step further. I was invited here, and
I was told my opponent, whether it was Biden or Kamala,
I was told my opponent was going to be here.
It turned out my opponent isn't here. You invited me
under false pretense, and then you said you can't do
it with zoom, Well you know where's zoom. She's going
to do it with zoom, and she's not coming, And
then you were half an hourl A. Just so we understand,
I have too much respect for you to be late.
Speaker 1: They couldn't get their.
Speaker 4: Equipment working or something.
Speaker 1: I would think it's a very nasty question. I have
answered the question.
Speaker 4: I have been the best president for the black population
since Abraham Lincoln.
Speaker 3: President Johnson, I'm the building right back.
Speaker 4: You to start off a question and answer period, especially
when you're thirty five minutes late because you couldn't get
your equipment to work. In such a hostile manner, I
think it's a disgrace.
Speaker 1: I really it's not that he was polite, it's that
she wasn't he matched her tone. He would do this
to a white journalist. If that was Mitten's romney, he
would have ducked and covered. If it was Hilary Clinton,
she would have pulled out her hot sauce and put
on some wop, stood up and danced for the people
because she's down with the struggle. That's complete respect. I'm
proud of the president for doing that. We'll spend more
time on it tomorrow. On the other side of the
spectrum is a guy named Ed Stetzer. I don't know Ed.
I've never met Ed. I don't know Ed's heart. I
know that Ed has some political views, and I know
he's an evangelical Christian, and I know he's got a
huge amount of respect. In fact, I have listened to
and quite enjoyed his program very much. This would be
an area on which he and I disagree. He was
talking about how to deprogram the deplorables during a book launch.
Speaker 5: Next question from Paul Washa Kakar, who's at the United
States Institute of Peace. I'm interested in hearing more about
Pastor Ed's work with evangelical pastors. How do you help
them identify and work on de radicalization. Do you build
on the internationals cbe countering violent extremism work in this area,
or how does it differ in your understanding?
Speaker 6: First, we don't call it de radicalization, That's the first thing,
but because nobody sees themselves as that. But I get
exactly what you're saying, and I appreciate the work of deradicalization,
the language I use at the beginning and the way
because I've written a lot to try to persuade evangelicals
on some of these issues, and I actually have. It
was very easy for us to sit back and say, oh,
those Quan honors, well, I actually have friends in the
who are self identified Qan honors in the evangelical community.
Speaker 1: I kind of just pause this, Sorry, Nana, with all
due respect, and he's earned respect. At Stetzer, I am
pretty thick into conservative politics. I live in a very
conservative region. I have mostly conservative friends, and I am
blessed to get hundreds of emails a day. I've met
one person who asked me to look into q Andon period,
so I would be fascinated to learn how you ended
up with a lot of friends who identifies q Andon.
When I've met one person who said, would you look
into this? And my response was no, because it's nothing
I can determine to be true or false.
Speaker 6: Who actually text me when I'm being discussed on q
andon message boards and they say they defend me on
those message boards. But that's another story for another day.
So for me, I try to frame in such a
way that people can receive the message. And again, for us,
that often comes around in terms of discipleship. I talked
about this on NPR's morning edition, and the host asked me,
and kind of I struggle because it's like it's insider
baseball language. I said, So there are things I explained
that as Christians we want to disciple in and things
that as Christians we want to disciple out. So what
needs to be discipled in in twenty twenty one, Well,
it might be seeing yourself as a world Christian, seeing
that men and women from every tongue tribe of nation
are that's frequent language in the pages of the scriptures.
It might be helping people to see that. And the
language I often use is that we should not be
among the gullible.
Speaker 1: Pause. Nothing wrong with what ed sets is saying. The
Lord of the universe is the Lord of the universe.
Jesus is not the Jesus of the United States. And
the question was about deprogramming deplorables. I just showed Donald
John Trump sit on stage and act with absolute consistency
with a black journalist calling him a racist, without saying
it and without pandering. I can show you Cammie Harris,
who has identified as Indian her most of her life.
I can show you her concept of black people as
to get on stage after megan the Stallion with one
of the most perverse and dishonoring of women quote songs
in history. That that's blackness. Bailing out criminals who destroyed
often black neighborhoods, that's blackness. So to Ed Stetzer, I
would say, again, with all respect ed, there's many forms
of racism, and I regard what's being inserted into the
minds of leftists as a very, very poisonous form of racism,
far more radical than whatever you've invented as racism from
President Trump or the deplorables, which seems to me to
be Paulss based. It is not racist to say we
have to be able to have some control of our borders,
goes to Romans thirteen. We have border laws or we don't,
sojourners have to follow our laws or they don't. What
does Roman thirteen say?
Speaker 6: And I actually would point out, you know, I mean,
I do, just so we're clear.
Speaker 1: I do believe.
Speaker 6: I've bet my whole life on the fact that there
was a person who was dead on Friday and on
Sunday was back from the dead, and everything I believe
and is framed and shaped around that reality. But I
do point out how as our Christian witness is impacted.
The last slide that I didn't get to because I
went too long in the first session actually talks about
the danger to our Christian witness. I lead the Wheaton
College Billy Graham Center, so I care deeply about our
Christian witness. And I pointed out somebody who kept posting
about this q Andon conspiracy and this QAnon conspiracy in
this one and then it came to Easter and they said, oh,
and Jesus rose from the dead.
Speaker 1: Nothing wrong, nothing wrong with saying don't make the idle
of politics, nothing wrong with that, But to even you
phrases like deplorables, to even take a question like that
and say, can I reframe that. Jesus tells us not
to call people fools. We're not to make that judgment.
That's God's judgment to make. And the phrase deplorables in
of itself devalues some of God's beings. I think there's
this temptation, and particularly it's an emotional temptation to look
at President Trump and a direct way of speaking and
point to that as as aggressive or racist. That black
journalist who was interviewing him and forgive me for not
knowing her name. She made these accusations of racism, saying
you told women of color who are United States citizens
to go home. Yeah, some of who moved here, who
were rescued and hate this country and are doing everything
policy wise to destroy this country. Those aren't question marks.
Those are facts. You destroy a country by setting up
neighborhoods that are of one race. That's a division tactic,
and everybody knows it, everyone who's willing to admit it.
There's some scripture that I think, and maybe ed set
you would agree with this, that I think every Christian
should be concerned by. I'm going to start with some
scripture that concerns me. And if you're involved in politics
or posting online or arguing with people online, let's talk
with someone the other night who made the point that
she got into an argument online and ended poorly. She
was repenting of it.
Speaker 2: There.
Speaker 1: It's happened to all of us. I think some of
the scripture should concern us. I'm going to work into
this something from the chosen because I think it can
give us some relief. I really do relief from what well,
relief from judging ourselves harshly because we don't get certain
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bad when we don't get certain portions of scripture. And
I'm going to bring you to this that chosen in
just a second, or a clip from it just a bit.
But let me start with a scripture that challenges me.
It's the one we've been pinning on Cami Harris because
I truly believe Proverbs chapter six, verses sixteen through nineteen.
I truly believe it describes Cami Harris, and I believe
it describes a lot of people in politics, but particularly
Cami Harris. There are six things the Lord hates, seven
that are attestable to him. Haughty eyes, which is another
way of saying prideful self centered, a lying tongue, hands
that shed innocent blood, a heart that devises whipid schemes,
feet that are quick to rush into evil, a false
witness who pours out lies, and a person who stirs
up conflict in the community. My version of this that
I'm looking at, that phrase, a person who steers up
conflict in the community is highlighted when we are engaged
in politics. It is our job to have this scripture
hurt our hearts. We have to invite this pain because
that pain can help us modulate how we speak. There
was a time, and maybe you know this, where I
was absolutely addicted to Twitter, and I loved burning people.
I loved burning them down, and it was a dopamine
hit and it was pleasurable. And sometimes people will still
give into that. I don't argue on Twitter. In fact,
I've gone down and I don't lock my Twitter down.
But I've gone through everything I can to make sure
I only see notifications from people I follow, because I
know myself, I know how easily drawn into something. I'll
give you another example. There's a way I can drive home,
which is you, which is about i'd say sixty sixty
five percent of the time faster. But the thirty five
percent of the time I hit a train, there I
become a flat out satanic lunatic because I can't stand
not knowing when I'm gonna get home. I would rather
have the predictable trick home, a trip home which is
slower but predictable. Very rarely do I get a train
than stopping at those moments because I have to just
deal with Wait, you're turning left. No, no, wait, wait,
you're not going to try to beat the train. Do
people see what's going on? Wait? You can go around
that guy. There's another And I become this insane lunatic.
Same thing in social media used to happen to me.
You may have the same thing where you own the libs.
We have a responsibility to learn how to speak into
these circumstances in a way that Jesus might knowing that
we don't get to go overturn the tables in the temple.
He got to do that because he is and was God.
That's a challenge, and it goes back to me to
that faring and careness methodong. A firing, fairness and caring methodology.
This is how moderates and people who are persuadable to
see things. Is it caring and fair when we communicate
through that lens, we win more arguments. So in the
case of let's say deplorables, Hey, can I ask you
a question? Since you've not met everybody who identifies as Trump,
is it really fair to just say deplorables? I mean,
there's some people who really care about their country and
you disagree on policy. But can I ask, for the
purposes of this discussion, can we not use that phrase.
I don't want to deplore people. I don't want to
deplore you. I'd rather not be deplored, and I'd rather
find ways to care for you. We may disagree on politics,
but I would genuinely like to find some ways to
care for you. In fact, I'd like to be able
to share some things about me that maybe you could
have some caring for me, and maybe we could treat
each other in a more fair way. So, if I
was involved in the conversation with Ed Stetzer, wouldn't that
be a wiser way to deal with it? It would
be a scriptural way to deal with it, because it's
not about stirring up conflict in the community. Now that's
not to say that Jesus was the soft soap Jesus.
This is what C. S. Lewis talked about, the soft
soap Jesus, the Jesus who is everybody's buddy. He's only
always cheerful and happy, and all things are good, and
he knows how things are going to turn out, so
he has optously, not even an optimistic point of view.
He knows how things end. It's not optimism, it's knowledge.
But Jesus himself said, I did not come to night
but to divide. So we need to be able to divide,
but do it with love. That's such a difficult thing.
I've shared with you family members who have same sex
attracted kids and friends of same sex attracted kids, that
one's going to come for you. You are going to
deal with this, And the better you get at it
now from a perspective of faring and caring in fairness,
the better we cannot stir up conflict in our community.
Maybe it's something you deal with an advance, Maybe it's
something you deal with by now saying, Hey, how would
you want me to respond if one of your kids
decided to go have a wedding ceremony? What would you
want me to do. Maybe it's dealing with it now
in advance. Maybe it's saying to them, hey, can I
share with you why that would be a real challenge
for me. May I share with you that I love
you so much and your kids so much that I
cannot pretend I love them without regard to how they
decide to live this way. I love them without regard
to sexual habits, like I love you without regard to
your sexual habits, and I can't endorse them if they're
non biblical. Is it fair for me to tell you
that in advance? Is there some way we could deal
with this in advance, because we're all going to be
called at some point. This is going to come for
all of us. So let's be scripture about it. Let's
not stir up conflict in the community. Let's not stir
up conflict in families. Let's deal with it ahead of time.
Scripture can be super challenging, and there is a fact
of the Bible that I think proves this point that
even really really brilliant learners or knowers of the law
are very, very challenged by some of the things Jesus said.
I'll show you this in a second Our bodies are
designed to need God. Our bodies, our minds, our souls
are designed to need God, to need that connection with
the God. I don't know about you, but sometimes I
have woken from sleep and felt utterly connected to God.
In fact, I'll tell you a story about that. Sometime
waking and feeling absolutely at rest. This is after I
decided to quit the radio show and on short notice,
the Seattle radio show, and I woke with complete rest
in the hand of the Father. This is a scene
from The Chosen. It's one of two we're going to
play today. We'll get back to some scriptures I think
should challenge all Christians. This is a meeting between Nicodemus,
who was a big time teacher of the law. He
was well respected in his community, thought of as a
big time academic, a teacher of teachers. He sought out
Jesus for a private meeting because Nicodemus was afraid to
be seen with him in public. In the scene, Nicodemus
properly refers to Jesus's rabbi. He's an older man talking
to a younger man, and the older man is confused.
Speaker 7: The eastern slums, many wandering preachers have succeeded in gathering crowds,
but their rhetoric and fiery tone.
Speaker 8: I've heard a few of them over the years myself,
so you know the type.
Speaker 7: But I have never heard anyone tell the paralytic to
get up and walk, much less it actually happened. So
what is your conclusion? I believe you are not acting alone.
No one can do these signs you do without having
God in him, only someone who has come from God.
Speaker 8: And how is that belief going over in the synagogue?
Which is why we are here at this hour?
Speaker 7: What else? What have you come here to show us?
A kingdom that is what our rulers are worried about.
Speaker 8: No, not that kind? Then, what a sort of kingdom
that a person cannot see unless he is born again?
Speaker 7: Born again? Yes, you mean a new creature or conversion
from Gentile to Jewish. No, that's not what I'm talking about.
And what is born again? I hope you don't mean
return to the womb, because that would be a problem
for me. My mother and she rest in peace, is dead.
Speaker 8: Truly, I say to you, unless one is born of
water and the spirit, he cannot enter the Kingdom of God.
That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and
that which is born of the spirit, his spirit, that
part of you, that is what must be reborn to
a new life.
Speaker 1: How can these things be?
Speaker 8: Ah, My teacher is Rayel, and yet you do not
understand things.
Speaker 1: I love the scene. I love the acting, and I
know there's some controversy about the chosen, and I understand
it's not scripture. That's a very scriptural scene done with
great respect. Sond dem is his teacher of the law.
We've heard born again so often we think we know
what it means. He doesn't, and he's honest, will continue
to get into some of the chosen. Just one more
clip on this, but I'm going to go to Matthew
chapter seven, verses twenty one through twenty three. This one
should freak Christians out. Not everyone who says to me,
Lord will enter the Kingdom of Heaven, but the one
who does the will of my Father, who is in heaven.
On that day, many will say to me, Lord Lord,
did we not prophesy in your name and cast out
demons your name? And do many mighty works in your name?
And then I will declare to them, I never knew you.
Depart from me. You workers of wawlessness. I never knew you.
In that scene, Nicodemus sits across from God Almighty in
human form, part of the Holy Trinity, and he's trying
to get to know him. And in Nicodemus's hearts, Nicodemus knows.
He said, you're from God. But Nicodemus was challenged with
departing the world, and we read into this. It's not
said this way, but we read into it departing his
and imagine you'd be leaving your whole life behind. Ultimately,
Nicodemus does come around and arrange for a proper barrower
for the Lord Jesus, and tradition tells us that he converted.
That's what tradition would tell us. That's not biblical, that phrase,
I never knew you? What does that mean. There's plenty
of people you can be around and not know. You
can chitchat, you can make small talk, but you don't
know them. You begin to know people when you've had
a conflict, when you have worked together, when you have
solved the problem together, when you've seen them through seasons
of plenty and little, when you've seen them in times
of great peace and conflict, when you have talked with
them of important things, and when you feel comfortable sharing
with them, and when you really know a person, you
know their voice or even their footsteps. I've made this
comparison before at home. I can tell who's walking within
three footsteps? Is it my wife? Is my daughter? In fact,
through repetition, I can actually tell which cat is walking.
Is it the white cat or the orange cat? I
can tell by the way they walk. We learn to
know the Father's voice how by being in the word
and then applying it to our daily life, and by arguing.
David's in the Psalms. This part of that is his
prayer journal. Sometimes in it he's expressing frustration with God
and listening for the answer. God's voice may not be
audible to you. In fact, someone wrote me an email
and respond to you next week and wait, can you
teach me how to hear God's voice? No, I can't,
because you're going to have it in a unique way
that I do. But I can hear you. I can
tell you how to recognize his word. Knowing the Lord
is inviting him in. Knowing the Lord is even asking
maybe for things that you know you're not going to get.
That God cannot bless them, and it's asking it knowing. Hey,
I know can't bless this, but I'm gonna ask anyway.
We do that with people, I'm gonna ask you a
big favorite. Oh gosh, you know I could do that.
I really can't. We do it with bosses. Hey, can
I have a month's paycheck in advance? I reach? Gosh, No,
I can't, But I can give you like a week
in advance. Getting to know God so that we never
face that day of I never knew you means that
we have interactions with God outside of just getting down
on our knees and praying. How we interact with this people.
We allow ourselves to be discipled by people who are
more spiritually mature than us. We disciple people who are
less mature than us. In the faith, we spend time
with the Body. If you're not spending time with the
body of Christ, how do you know the Lord? If
you have rendered yourself separate from the Body of Christ,
how do you know the Lord? There's been many many
people have said to me, I don't need church, right,
it's just me and the Bible. In Jesus, is that
what Jesus said, did Jesus say people don't need a church.
God never does anything unintentionally. When the Lord Jesus set
up a church, he intended for us to be part
of it as a way of meeting the body together.
That scripture should challenge people, do you know the Lord?
Do I? Matthew Chapter thirteen, verses thirty through thirty two.
Whoever is not with me is against me. And whoever
does not gather with me scatters. Whoever does not gather
with me scatters. Therefore, I tell you every sin and
blasphemacy with blasphemy will be forgiven people, but the blasphemy
against the Spirit will not be forgiven. Whoever speaks a
word against the Son of Man will be forgiven, but
whoever speaks against the Holy Spirit will not be forgiven,
either in this age or in the age to come.
I cannot tell you that I understand what that means.
Do you? I guess to blasphem the Holy Spirit is
to have a Holy Spirit to tell you show you
you are not to do this, and you to say
I don't care. I don't care what you say. Holy spirits,
I don't want you. You're an evil spirit. Would that
be it? It should concern us when there are statements
like that that we don't understand. Next time I have
my pastor and friend Jim up and on, I'll ask
him about this and if you know the answer, share
it with me. That one should concern us because it's
an unforgivable sin. When I was at the youth camp
this past this past month or no, was got like
three weeks ago, this came up and one of the
colders said, no, there's no unforgivable sins. Say no, it's
in scripture Matthew thirteen thirty through thirty two. The blasphemen
of ce Blasphemy are the unforgivable sin of blaspheming the
Holy Spirit. That should concern us. It concerns me because
I don't think I understand it well. And the chosen
Nicodemus tried to get more of an understanding of what
Jesus meant by being born again, and it went.
Speaker 7: Like this, I'm sorry I could disappoint.
Speaker 8: And I did not come to deliver the people from
Rome than from wart from sin, from spiritual death. God
loves the world in this way that he gave his
only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish,
but have eternal life.
Speaker 7: So this has nothing to do with wrong. It all
about sin.
Speaker 8: God did not send his son into the world to
condemn it Nicotimus. He sent him to save it through him.
It's as simple as Moses's serpent on the pole. Whoever
believes in him will not be condemned, but whoever does
not believe stands condemned.
Speaker 1: Already in the Old Testaments, Moses was told to create
a serpent on a pole. The people them being snake bits,
and it was their accountability for turning from God. And
Moses was told to make this and have the people
look upon it. Why are we looking at a serpent
because I told you to, because the very thing that's
been striking you dead, I'm going to have you look
upon it, because it's an act of faith, because God
said to. When the Lord Jesus was raised upon the cross,
it was a sign of that him, not the serpent,
of course, him, the savior of mankind. People looked upon
him and believed. They chose to believe, looking upon the servant,
that God's going to do what he says he's going
to do. This is a challenging, challenging thought and was
very challenging for Nicodemus, who did not. He had an
opportunity to be a disciple, a man of God, clearly
clearly seeking God, had an opportunity to be with him,
but couldn't or wouldn't because he couldn't give something up.
Two of the hardest pieces of scripture. One, particularly for conservatives.
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Speaker 7: Two.
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with a catpuke in it, and I've talked to you
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He sent me a note and said, hey, we do
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how we use it. And if you're at a home
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is kind of the uncomfortable one and truly it's uncomfortable.
I got a note from a woman who's a home
healthcare nurse and she's doing this right now for loved ones,
and she mentioned there actually is a smell of old
people smell people laying in bed. He goes, I don't
want that to be the case when our grandkids come
over and the family comes over. So I bought this
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that helps clear the air. And it doesn't do it loud.
That lady doesn't want to hear a loud air filter.
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of the scriptures for conservatives. Submission to governing authorities. Let
everyone be subject to governing authorities. For there's no authority
except that which God has established. The authorities that exist
have been established by God. Consequently, whoever rebels against the
authorities rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who
do so, will bring judgment upon themselves. For rulers hold
no terror or for those who do right, but for
those who do wrong. Do you want to be free
from fear, from the fear from the word is authority,
then do what is right and you will be commended,
for the one in authority is in God's servant for
your good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for
rulers do not bear the sword for no reason. They
are God's servants, agents of wrath to bring punishment to
the wrong doer. Therefore, it is necessary to submit to
the authorities, not only because of possible punishment, but also
as a matter of conscience. This is also why you
pay taxes. For The authorities are God's servants who give
their full time governing. Give to everyone what you owe them.
If you owe taxes, pay taxes. If revenue, then revenue,
if respect and respect, if honor, then honor. Mostly we
do this. You mostly follow the law. I bet you
aren't outrunning stop signs. I bet you aren't out going
thirty miles an hour with the speed limit a regular basis.
I bet you do pay your taxes. I bet you
don't steal. I bet you follow the authorities for the
most part. Here's where the conflict's coming from, I think
is our authorities have become ungodly. God sometimes lets un
goodly rulers stay in place like the figurehead, like God
forbid Caammie Harris. He does that for his own ends,
which are always for our own good. And we have
an example here. The again, back to knowing the Lord.
There is an accept to this. It's not in the text.
It's in the behaviors of Peter in the early and
the apostles. They were told, you will not preach the
word of Jesus, you will not practice your faith, And
they said, we will not stop. So the point of
being crucified, beaten, boiled in oil, having been torn apart, stabbed, stoned,
we will not stop when it comes to violating the
word of God that goes against the ultimate authority. When
we're told to lie, Hey, that man is a woman,
I'm not going to do that. When we're told to
hate someone because of their race, I'm not going to
do that. We're to love our neighbor as we love ourselves.
When we're told to steal reparations, taking money from people
who never held slaves to give to people who weren't
ever slaves, that's theft. We can fight against that. We
can argue against that, because it's ungodly to cause us
to steal or to be stolen from.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 1: Of course, scripture says, when someone comes to take your cloak,
offer them as well your shirt. It's a difficult thing.
It should be difficult. But if it's not difficult, it
might mean you are not in the word. If it's
not difficult to follow a perfect God as an imperfect
human being you're probably not trying to follow the word.
You ever had to work out with someone who is
flawless at something, it's very very frustrating. You can stay
with them for a little while, but after a while
they're just going to overtake you. I've made the mistake
a few times being in a workout around people who
are great swimmers, and I don't swim. I plow through water.
And the more fat I've lost, the more that's true.
I don't float. It's very very difficult, and it's super
super hard, and it's beautiful to watch a real swimmer
who actually floats upon the water and propels themselves through
the water just like they're floating. As I have said,
it's very difficult to match that perfection, and I probably
will never get there. We'll never get to the perfection
of God. But if that doesn't cause a conflict in
you as you try to live to the world, then
maybe you're not really seeking perfection. Maybe I'm not. When
I say you, I mean us, by the way. But
Romans thirteen doesn't end there. That's Romans thirteen one through seven,
Romans thirteen eight through ten. Love fulfills the law. Let
no debt remain outstanding, except the continuing debt to love
one another. For whosoever loves others has fulfilled the law.
The commandments you should not commit adultery, you should not murder,
you should not steal, you should not come it, and
whatever other command there may be are summed up in
this one command. Love your neighbor as yourself. Love does
no harm to a neighbor. Therefore, love is the fulfillment
of the law. If we take this right back up
to the top, we take it right back up to
President Trump. We take it to a man who has
either enough love for himself, and let's admit President Trump
loves himself of a plenty. If he were a man
driven by racial animis and hatred, he would have treated
that black journalists in a completely different way. I think
she was baiting him. I think she hates him. I
think that was clear. I think she wanted him to
react really, really harshly. Instead, he was calm and measured,
the way he is with other adversarial journalists. It was
a masterclass and it was respectful. Just because we love
doesn't mean we agree, And just because we agree with
God's word doesn't mean we're living it out. If there's
not a conflict from time to time in your heart
in relation to your behavior and scripture, then maybe you're
not seriously in the word. A wrestling match with God
can be a blessing because it can show you are
maturing spiritually. And the Bible is full of moments or
people have had to take a step back and even
the great of the Bible and say, my gosh, what
have I done? God? Thank you for making your word
a tool always good for rebuke and teaching and instruction.
Thank you for providing us a model of perfection we
can never reach, but we can pursue. This is a
Todd Hermannshaw. Please go, be well, be strong, be kind,
and please make every effort to walk in the light
of Christ.