WEBVTT 1 00:00:14.599 --> 00:00:19.199 What's up, everybody? Welcome to rose Pricks. It's the valley. 2 00:00:19.960 --> 00:00:21.440 What is this show going to be done? 3 00:00:21.839 --> 00:00:24.559 I mean, like, honestly, this is starting to feel like 4 00:00:25.359 --> 00:00:26.640 what was the thing ninety day? 5 00:00:26.679 --> 00:00:31.120 The other way or whatever? Paradise, well, that was. 6 00:00:31.199 --> 00:00:33.960 We handled Paradise pretty well, but it was the other way. 7 00:00:34.079 --> 00:00:37.079 That's when we met our friend Sarper, who we loved, 8 00:00:37.119 --> 00:00:39.679 so we became very very close to Starper. 9 00:00:40.399 --> 00:00:44.280 We're very tight. We loved Sarper. Both changed our minds 10 00:00:44.280 --> 00:00:48.359 on Sarper. But the other way was also Beautiful Brown Ice. 11 00:00:48.759 --> 00:00:52.119 Beautiful Brown. That was a different one though. That was 12 00:00:52.320 --> 00:00:54.159 that was Paradise. That was the one where the guy 13 00:00:54.280 --> 00:00:57.000 was like the sperm donor. That wasn't the same one. 14 00:00:57.240 --> 00:01:02.240 Paradise was super Sharper was no. That was I believe 15 00:01:02.280 --> 00:01:04.319 the other way because she was going to Turkey. It's 16 00:01:04.359 --> 00:01:07.480 a whole thing, I promise. And sadly I know this 17 00:01:07.560 --> 00:01:10.599 because there were like ninety five episodes of that one season, 18 00:01:10.640 --> 00:01:13.959 and we were like, we literally did that show for 19 00:01:14.159 --> 00:01:16.599 six months, and I'm not even joking. It was six 20 00:01:16.640 --> 00:01:19.920 months of our life doing a recap of a show 21 00:01:19.920 --> 00:01:23.079 that I don't think anybody was watching. Really They certainly 22 00:01:23.120 --> 00:01:24.719 weren't listening to our recaps. 23 00:01:25.120 --> 00:01:27.239 The thing is like, once you get into something, you're 24 00:01:27.280 --> 00:01:30.480 kind of you're trapped. That's they trap you in there. 25 00:01:30.519 --> 00:01:32.719 You don't have to be we don't. Here's the thing. 26 00:01:32.760 --> 00:01:34.680 We're going to finish out the valley because you know, 27 00:01:34.760 --> 00:01:37.000 we can't have that much longer to go. It's a 28 00:01:37.040 --> 00:01:40.959 couple more episodes. We're nearing an end here. There's there's 29 00:01:41.040 --> 00:01:41.599 we can't. 30 00:01:41.840 --> 00:01:42.840 We can't rehash. 31 00:01:43.200 --> 00:01:46.599 The producers can't keep rehashing the same fight about Jason's 32 00:01:46.599 --> 00:01:48.640 wedding ring and Jackson whatever. 33 00:01:48.680 --> 00:01:50.840 Like there's nothing more to say. They seem to be 34 00:01:50.879 --> 00:01:54.840 able to That's that seems to be their mo and 35 00:01:55.319 --> 00:01:58.760 it's nobody asked for this. I agree with you. Nobody 36 00:01:58.799 --> 00:02:03.040 asked for this, include Jasmine and Melissa. Nobody is asking 37 00:02:03.120 --> 00:02:06.319 for any of this. But they seem to think we 38 00:02:06.400 --> 00:02:08.680 have a job to do. Janet thinks she has a 39 00:02:08.759 --> 00:02:12.280 job to do. She thinks she's a lawyer along with 40 00:02:12.319 --> 00:02:15.159 her husband, and yet I guess like she's taken the 41 00:02:15.199 --> 00:02:18.080 case and she's gonna do the best she can for 42 00:02:18.120 --> 00:02:18.639 her client. 43 00:02:19.439 --> 00:02:22.560 That's exactly even though she knows the client's guilty, but 44 00:02:22.639 --> 00:02:24.120 she kind of just has to do what she has 45 00:02:24.159 --> 00:02:24.360 to do. 46 00:02:25.039 --> 00:02:27.800 Well, I'm the saying she thinks her client is Jasmine 47 00:02:27.800 --> 00:02:31.639 and Melissa, Oh, I see, yes, yes, and so she's 48 00:02:31.719 --> 00:02:34.479 working on behalf of her client, who her client who 49 00:02:34.479 --> 00:02:36.560 did not hire her to do anything. 50 00:02:36.919 --> 00:02:39.360 I'm not thrilled with her client either. I'm like, no, 51 00:02:39.439 --> 00:02:43.120 I'm not thrilled with anybody. And it's also I want 52 00:02:43.120 --> 00:02:45.680 to say, if you guys did not listen to our 53 00:02:45.840 --> 00:02:49.759 Bachelor in Paradise, which is back and it was long awaited. Yeah, 54 00:02:49.759 --> 00:02:52.039 there was some changes that we didn't love either, but 55 00:02:52.080 --> 00:02:54.479 we did a two part recap, so go back and 56 00:02:54.520 --> 00:02:58.159 listen it because I'm much more I'm especially compared to 57 00:02:58.199 --> 00:03:01.280 the Valley. I am on to be doing Bachelor of 58 00:03:01.319 --> 00:03:03.479 Paradise recaps like it's. 59 00:03:03.599 --> 00:03:07.120 Best show on television now right now, I mean reality 60 00:03:07.240 --> 00:03:09.360 a little bit. Yeah, they do. 61 00:03:09.400 --> 00:03:11.039 You know what I just read It may have it 62 00:03:11.080 --> 00:03:12.560 may have been on Rose Pricks, and it may have 63 00:03:12.560 --> 00:03:15.680 been on Whispering, But somebody said that the new showrunner 64 00:03:16.240 --> 00:03:19.680 that we are now seeing the likes of for Bachelor 65 00:03:19.719 --> 00:03:22.879 and Paradise came from Summer House. And that makes so 66 00:03:23.280 --> 00:03:24.520 much sense, does it? 67 00:03:25.039 --> 00:03:25.319 Yes? 68 00:03:25.960 --> 00:03:29.719 And that's not necessarily good because you know, hey, as 69 00:03:29.759 --> 00:03:32.759 we said on our recap, they branded it like they 70 00:03:32.879 --> 00:03:36.120 branded it for decades with The Bachelor, and now they 71 00:03:36.159 --> 00:03:39.000 just were like, let's make it the other thing. And 72 00:03:39.319 --> 00:03:41.599 there are things I didn't hate, but things I you know, 73 00:03:41.800 --> 00:03:42.800 they should have left alone. 74 00:03:42.919 --> 00:03:45.479 I think a lot of the feedback, you know, and 75 00:03:45.520 --> 00:03:47.919 we did this, We did our episode with no feedback. 76 00:03:47.960 --> 00:03:51.159 We just right, we trusted ourselves. Oh I like doing that. 77 00:03:51.199 --> 00:03:53.719 I do that, which show this too? Yeah, I mean 78 00:03:53.879 --> 00:03:58.639 for sure. But one thing that you know, we felt 79 00:03:59.280 --> 00:04:02.520 was that it was a little bit slick. 80 00:04:03.479 --> 00:04:05.800 Oh yeah, and it was they missed a whole like 81 00:04:06.319 --> 00:04:09.479 just the self awareness of walking down and like being 82 00:04:09.719 --> 00:04:12.199 embarrassed to walk down those steps and being nervous. 83 00:04:12.400 --> 00:04:16.160 All that's gone. We felt. We felt that it was 84 00:04:16.480 --> 00:04:19.560 too much trying to mimic one of these fires yeah 85 00:04:19.720 --> 00:04:23.199 Netflix shows, yeah, or Love Island. It's just there's too 86 00:04:23.279 --> 00:04:25.480 much sameness. The only thing that made it different was 87 00:04:25.519 --> 00:04:31.240 that it has old Bachelor eye recycles, which yeah, you know, 88 00:04:32.560 --> 00:04:33.639 and there's date cards. 89 00:04:33.639 --> 00:04:35.839 They kept the date cards and they kept the rose ceremonies, 90 00:04:35.839 --> 00:04:38.360 so they didn't you know, they obviously they some of 91 00:04:38.399 --> 00:04:41.240 it's there it's it's just there's just you know what 92 00:04:41.279 --> 00:04:44.800 it is. They're too cocky, the people on the show now, 93 00:04:44.800 --> 00:04:49.839 except for Hakeem bless his little eyes, yes, his big eyes. 94 00:04:49.920 --> 00:04:51.040 They were just too cocky. 95 00:04:51.360 --> 00:04:55.560 And that's they're too It's too like Love Island, Like 96 00:04:55.639 --> 00:04:57.680 didn't they spoof it on SNL Love Island once? And 97 00:04:57.680 --> 00:04:59.839 they're like, I just want to Mike, I just want 98 00:05:00.120 --> 00:05:03.040 may it fit? Got Love Island UK? Just let me 99 00:05:03.199 --> 00:05:05.199 And that's just the hottest woman you've ever seen, but 100 00:05:05.319 --> 00:05:08.600 just kind of tacky. They just let me make somebody fit. 101 00:05:09.199 --> 00:05:11.040 It's just a lot of that and you're like, what 102 00:05:11.040 --> 00:05:11.839 what happened here? 103 00:05:12.199 --> 00:05:15.439 Right? Right? But I still love it so much more 104 00:05:15.439 --> 00:05:18.079 than the Valley. But what we used to like about 105 00:05:18.279 --> 00:05:20.800 Bachelor in Paradise was that it was kind of some 106 00:05:20.920 --> 00:05:24.399 of the rejects, you know, people that didn't find love 107 00:05:24.560 --> 00:05:28.120 that the hot came and yes, that ended up having 108 00:05:28.160 --> 00:05:31.199 a little redemption. Not that they needed to be redeepd, 109 00:05:31.199 --> 00:05:33.040 but you know what I mean, they ended up like, Okay, 110 00:05:33.079 --> 00:05:36.240 you weren't the Bachelor, but look you also did her 111 00:05:36.279 --> 00:05:39.920 of love and somebody Yes, exactly exactly like Evan, even 112 00:05:39.959 --> 00:05:42.439 though you turned out to be a douche, but because 113 00:05:42.480 --> 00:05:45.240 they always do yes. But like that's the kind of 114 00:05:45.399 --> 00:05:48.120 I think that's the thing that we watch it for. 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That's v Iia, Hey, hey, 148 00:07:36.680 --> 00:07:39.920 vay yah. Okay, let's get into this episode into their nineen. 149 00:07:40.399 --> 00:07:42.680 Oh my god, is it really thirteen? Like that's too many? 150 00:07:42.879 --> 00:07:47.399 That's already too many months and months? How many episodes 151 00:07:47.439 --> 00:07:49.160 do you think there will be? 152 00:07:49.279 --> 00:07:49.600 Total? 153 00:07:49.680 --> 00:07:51.360 Think I looked it up last time, and I think 154 00:07:51.360 --> 00:07:53.160 there's like fifteen plus a reunion. 155 00:07:53.439 --> 00:07:55.560 I don't know if they'll do a reunion. My god, 156 00:07:55.759 --> 00:07:58.879 so you ever get like, oh, yes, they did a reunion, 157 00:07:58.920 --> 00:08:02.680 they've already held it. You know how wrestlers get calliflower ear. 158 00:08:03.000 --> 00:08:05.959 I think we can get headphone podcast ear. I'm starting 159 00:08:05.959 --> 00:08:08.480 to get pogged, like my ear is deformed now from 160 00:08:08.519 --> 00:08:09.519 oh wearing headphones. 161 00:08:10.079 --> 00:08:12.439 Maybe they're too tight. I think I'm gonna take this 162 00:08:12.480 --> 00:08:14.439 one off. That doesn't make a difference, right to have 163 00:08:14.480 --> 00:08:17.079 one on one off like a DJ hmm, No, it 164 00:08:17.079 --> 00:08:19.160 doesn't make a difference. Okay, good. 165 00:08:20.360 --> 00:08:22.639 So what did you have? I mean, I know we 166 00:08:22.800 --> 00:08:25.600 kind of talked macro, but you know, just of the 167 00:08:25.680 --> 00:08:28.639 episode itself, how did you feel? You didn't you didn't 168 00:08:28.680 --> 00:08:31.720 love this episode? Right? Stole my piece? I don't. 169 00:08:31.759 --> 00:08:33.639 I cannot tell you how many times they said that, like, 170 00:08:33.679 --> 00:08:34.960 don't let them steal your piece? 171 00:08:35.240 --> 00:08:37.320 Did they steal your piece? Did anyone steal your piece? 172 00:08:37.519 --> 00:08:40.960 That's the new like, that's their new buzzword, don't let them? 173 00:08:41.000 --> 00:08:42.360 So it did steal my piece. 174 00:08:42.399 --> 00:08:44.480 So the ironic part of them saying that over and 175 00:08:44.559 --> 00:08:46.720 over again is like, oh, yeah, my piece was stolen 176 00:08:47.039 --> 00:08:49.879 from you guys. Yeah, I did not like it. I 177 00:08:49.919 --> 00:08:53.320 thought it was just the same conversation. But there are 178 00:08:53.320 --> 00:08:56.320 a couple new things. There are a couple new things. 179 00:08:56.360 --> 00:08:57.200 Did you have a macro? 180 00:08:58.480 --> 00:09:01.480 You know I didn't. I just I find and I 181 00:09:01.519 --> 00:09:04.840 know that we disagreed about this off air, so we 182 00:09:04.919 --> 00:09:10.399 owe we owe America are on air opinions about this. 183 00:09:10.519 --> 00:09:14.480 But I really felt so enraged by Janet that I 184 00:09:14.600 --> 00:09:18.080 sometimes can't think about anything else. And you don't. You 185 00:09:18.200 --> 00:09:20.639 said that you don't have any real feelings towards her 186 00:09:20.679 --> 00:09:20.960 at all. 187 00:09:21.519 --> 00:09:24.320 I don't like Janet at all, but she doesn't enrage me. 188 00:09:24.480 --> 00:09:27.039 I just think she's just like a fly at a picnic. 189 00:09:27.679 --> 00:09:30.320 She's annoying. She's like not somebody i'd want to hang with, 190 00:09:30.440 --> 00:09:32.840 you know, like I wouldn't choose her at all. I 191 00:09:32.879 --> 00:09:36.159 definitely don't like her. She's awful, but there's just other 192 00:09:36.240 --> 00:09:38.799 people that bug me more. And I don't know why, 193 00:09:38.919 --> 00:09:40.960 can't really, I don't know who knows. We'd have to 194 00:09:41.000 --> 00:09:43.639 like dig into our childhoods to like figure out like why, 195 00:09:44.240 --> 00:09:46.399 because I do think it's Janet for most people, and 196 00:09:46.440 --> 00:09:49.039 I know it is for you, but she just me, 197 00:09:49.159 --> 00:09:54.559 She's just like whatever, whatever likes. 198 00:09:53.720 --> 00:09:57.279 The most gigantic Karen, and I was so offended on 199 00:09:57.360 --> 00:10:02.639 behalf of actual women of color. Even though and I'm 200 00:10:02.639 --> 00:10:06.200 going to say this, which I'm speaking on something that 201 00:10:06.240 --> 00:10:10.120 I know nothing about, but I read on Reddit that 202 00:10:11.799 --> 00:10:16.480 Jasmine was on the after show saying, well, she's not wrong, 203 00:10:17.200 --> 00:10:20.559 Janet's not wrong. This is stuff that happens later and 204 00:10:20.600 --> 00:10:22.639 we will all bring this back up. But she was 205 00:10:22.679 --> 00:10:25.159 saying she's not wrong, but like, I wish she wasn't 206 00:10:25.240 --> 00:10:27.879 speaking for me, because it's kind of up to me 207 00:10:28.720 --> 00:10:30.360 if I want to talk about it. It's up to me, 208 00:10:32.080 --> 00:10:37.600 and obviously Melissa. So even though even though Jasmine is 209 00:10:37.639 --> 00:10:40.519 not saying like what happened to her, what happened to 210 00:10:40.559 --> 00:10:43.840 them wasn't sexual assault, she is basically like, shut the 211 00:10:43.840 --> 00:10:48.519 fuck up, yes, which I just think that that the 212 00:10:48.600 --> 00:10:52.440 way that Janet inserts herself into everything is just so gross. 213 00:10:52.720 --> 00:10:54.679 Oh she's the world. I mean, she is definitely terrible. 214 00:10:54.960 --> 00:10:57.159 I don't I don't like the woman, but she's just 215 00:10:57.519 --> 00:10:59.360 like who gives me We're going to get to it 216 00:10:59.600 --> 00:11:00.000 very soon. 217 00:11:00.360 --> 00:11:01.360 But the one that just. 218 00:11:01.360 --> 00:11:04.559 Drives me crazy, and she's probably the nicest person on 219 00:11:04.600 --> 00:11:07.480 the show, drives me the craziest so where that comes from, 220 00:11:07.639 --> 00:11:08.080 I don't know. 221 00:11:08.320 --> 00:11:12.840 And that's why, Like what makes you crazy about her? 222 00:11:12.879 --> 00:11:20.559 Just her person. She's very like I don't cat and 223 00:11:21.080 --> 00:11:21.399 is what. 224 00:11:21.360 --> 00:11:23.240 She sounds like to me. And I know that's nonsense 225 00:11:23.279 --> 00:11:25.720 words and that's what I hear when she's talking. Like 226 00:11:28.080 --> 00:11:32.919 she said, she's very Stepford wi Stepford wives. She's not 227 00:11:33.000 --> 00:11:35.720 the one I would hang with, you know, And she 228 00:11:35.960 --> 00:11:39.639 acts one way like Nanny and then she's like. 229 00:11:39.600 --> 00:11:42.840 Stop it, stop you stop it. Like I think I'm 230 00:11:42.879 --> 00:11:46.720 triggered by the alan on of it all, Like she's 231 00:11:46.919 --> 00:11:51.200 very controlling of I mean, look, I get it, I've 232 00:11:51.240 --> 00:11:53.759 been where she is, but I just it just bugs me. 233 00:11:53.799 --> 00:11:56.159 It triggers me. She bugs me, She bugs me. She's 234 00:11:56.200 --> 00:11:58.279 just like a she's like a robot lady. 235 00:11:59.080 --> 00:11:59.919 Interesting. I don't like it. 236 00:12:00.240 --> 00:12:02.919 I don't like either of them. I wouldn't choose either 237 00:12:02.960 --> 00:12:06.960 of them in conversation. But I feel like Janet or Nia, 238 00:12:07.000 --> 00:12:08.039 but like, let's say I had to go. 239 00:12:08.080 --> 00:12:09.519 Let's say Nia. Let's say Janet was. 240 00:12:09.440 --> 00:12:11.799 In a good mood and she was like having Margarita 241 00:12:11.879 --> 00:12:13.840 and not mad at you. So she's just talking about 242 00:12:13.879 --> 00:12:16.440 someone else you also don't like, Uh huh. I would 243 00:12:16.440 --> 00:12:18.960 prefer that Margarita with Janet than I would with Nia. 244 00:12:19.559 --> 00:12:22.240 If you're just talking shit that one day about that 245 00:12:22.279 --> 00:12:22.759 one person. 246 00:12:22.759 --> 00:12:25.559 You know what I'm saying. I know what you're saying, 247 00:12:25.559 --> 00:12:29.879 and I hate Yeah, like I totally. I guess I disagree. 248 00:12:30.559 --> 00:12:32.879 Not that we have to choose. We don't have to choose. 249 00:12:32.879 --> 00:12:37.519 They would I don't do so. Oh you choose your piece, 250 00:12:37.840 --> 00:12:39.440 and I understand. I get that. 251 00:12:40.039 --> 00:12:43.320 I wouldn't be I wouldn't choose either. Janet's awful. She 252 00:12:43.480 --> 00:12:45.519 is totally a Karen. But Nia is like a different 253 00:12:45.519 --> 00:12:48.440 word for Karen. It's like a different name, Like I 254 00:12:48.519 --> 00:12:50.039 don't know what it is, but it's just like. 255 00:12:50.519 --> 00:12:54.840 Anything you just don't find. You find her disingenuous. 256 00:12:55.360 --> 00:12:59.039 Yeah, I'm just kind of not so bright, just not 257 00:12:59.240 --> 00:13:01.039 so bright and that. But I think that bugs me 258 00:13:01.120 --> 00:13:04.080 more than anything. Well, she's a pageant girl, yes. 259 00:13:03.919 --> 00:13:06.559 And maybe maybe there's a little you know, being from 260 00:13:06.600 --> 00:13:07.440 the South, maybe. 261 00:13:07.320 --> 00:13:10.200 There's a trigger there somewhere, there's something where I'm just 262 00:13:10.240 --> 00:13:14.360 like I can't. I'm usually and I'm not saying this jokingly. 263 00:13:14.919 --> 00:13:17.600 You know, people say, like this person doesn't suffer fools. 264 00:13:17.639 --> 00:13:19.559 You know, I do suffer fools. 265 00:13:19.919 --> 00:13:22.399 I do. I like fools. I always have. 266 00:13:22.639 --> 00:13:24.039 I don't have an issue, and I try not to 267 00:13:24.039 --> 00:13:25.879 be judgmental, but she is a fool that I just 268 00:13:25.919 --> 00:13:26.519 can't suffer. 269 00:13:27.120 --> 00:13:30.279 Okay, fair enough, fair enough, that's just how you feel. 270 00:13:30.279 --> 00:13:33.120 We have a right to our feelings. Yeah, she might 271 00:13:33.159 --> 00:13:35.360 be great, she might be great. I don't know. So 272 00:13:35.440 --> 00:13:39.159 we we episode thirteen, we open, We get this fierce 273 00:13:39.639 --> 00:13:43.200 like coming up in this episode, which a lot of 274 00:13:43.240 --> 00:13:46.399 these shows have been doing. I'm not sure if it 275 00:13:46.480 --> 00:13:49.960 works or not, because it's like they're not even doing it, 276 00:13:50.200 --> 00:13:52.120 like they're trying to be stylized about it, do you 277 00:13:52.200 --> 00:13:53.879 know what I mean? Like they have like, yes, they 278 00:13:53.879 --> 00:13:58.120 do it out of time, Yes, disan bodied heads floating 279 00:13:58.159 --> 00:14:01.600 around saying things, And it was like, is that a genie? 280 00:14:01.919 --> 00:14:04.240 What is thought? But it's just Janet's head over an 281 00:14:04.279 --> 00:14:06.639 ocean going kind of. 282 00:14:06.679 --> 00:14:09.159 Like the US salt. You're like, I thought it was 283 00:14:09.240 --> 00:14:11.679 kind of funny. Actually like that. I like that kind 284 00:14:11.679 --> 00:14:15.360 of weird editing. I want more of that. I think 285 00:14:15.360 --> 00:14:17.559 can make the whole show that and I would prefer it. 286 00:14:17.679 --> 00:14:19.759 Yeah, but we're like, and you know what, where was 287 00:14:19.799 --> 00:14:24.159 that energy on Paradise? We need the kind of did. 288 00:14:24.240 --> 00:14:26.039 They did it a little bit, they just weren't like, 289 00:14:26.240 --> 00:14:30.080 they just weren't consistent. They did it occasionally. Yeah, and 290 00:14:30.120 --> 00:14:32.519 in fact someone just posted on our Rose Pricks wall. 291 00:14:32.559 --> 00:14:34.440 But they didn't like that. They were like didn't like 292 00:14:34.480 --> 00:14:36.759 the dream sequences and stuff like when they were on 293 00:14:36.799 --> 00:14:40.440 the boat and then you know, like cats losing her 294 00:14:40.519 --> 00:14:42.879 like she's in some weird fantasy about Dale. I kind 295 00:14:42.879 --> 00:14:46.039 of thought it was funny. But yeah, they have to pick. 296 00:14:46.159 --> 00:14:47.679 They have to pick one way and go with it, 297 00:14:47.799 --> 00:14:50.600 that's what you're saying. But yeah, it's twenty and then 298 00:14:50.639 --> 00:14:53.600 twenty one we see all this screaming fighting. Twenty one 299 00:14:53.639 --> 00:14:57.159 hours earlier is our chiron, right, and we're at the 300 00:14:57.159 --> 00:15:00.720 engagement party. Still, we're still at this dumb engagement party 301 00:15:00.720 --> 00:15:03.000 were there's only like six people there because it's just 302 00:15:03.039 --> 00:15:06.600 the cast, right, it's just so unless it's so fake 303 00:15:06.720 --> 00:15:10.480 and like not lively, nobody wants to be there, especially 304 00:15:10.519 --> 00:15:14.080 not Kristen right or Benji. I'm gonna say right now, 305 00:15:14.080 --> 00:15:15.919 Benji does not want to be part of this. 306 00:15:17.159 --> 00:15:22.200 But then downstairs. So but here's the thing that I 307 00:15:22.200 --> 00:15:26.039 think is worth noting. The only part that Janet and 308 00:15:26.159 --> 00:15:30.720 Jason weren't invited to was this little staged hotel room 309 00:15:30.840 --> 00:15:35.360 engagement party to go like surprise, you know the rest 310 00:15:35.360 --> 00:15:37.480 of it, which I have a feeling they were only 311 00:15:37.519 --> 00:15:41.559 in the hotel room for an hour filming yah, right, 312 00:15:41.600 --> 00:15:44.120 and then they were going to move everybody downstairs because 313 00:15:44.120 --> 00:15:46.639 they had a whole party setup. So I really don't 314 00:15:46.679 --> 00:15:48.679 think and I know I'm taking this way too seriously, 315 00:15:49.000 --> 00:15:51.159 I really don't think that all like the cold cuts 316 00:15:51.159 --> 00:15:53.480 and cheese, was just going to be sitting out there 317 00:15:53.519 --> 00:15:57.000 for three hours. That made me hungry though. Yeah. So 318 00:15:57.080 --> 00:16:00.759 my point is that all of Janet's like, my god, 319 00:16:00.840 --> 00:16:05.600 we weren't invited. Uh, it seems really forced because you 320 00:16:05.720 --> 00:16:10.120 were invited because Zach said, hey, yeah, just it might 321 00:16:10.200 --> 00:16:13.320 be weird if you're just in the hotel room when 322 00:16:13.360 --> 00:16:15.480 they first come in wearing a T shirt, that might 323 00:16:15.519 --> 00:16:18.399 come off as a bit aggressive. But when you're totally 324 00:16:18.480 --> 00:16:20.960 invited to but then we're having a stand up dinner, 325 00:16:21.279 --> 00:16:25.080 you're totally invited. So Janet makes this makes a whole 326 00:16:25.120 --> 00:16:28.559 storyline about how she wasn't invited, Oh my god, and 327 00:16:28.559 --> 00:16:30.799 it becomes a victim the whole rest of the episode, 328 00:16:30.799 --> 00:16:32.919 which girl, you were invited? We all heard it. 329 00:16:32.919 --> 00:16:36.120 It was increasing the same thing that she victimizes herself 330 00:16:36.200 --> 00:16:38.399 makes it about her. And I also want to say, 331 00:16:38.480 --> 00:16:41.320 we've sometimes been tough on Zach, but like he we 332 00:16:41.399 --> 00:16:43.480 need a Zach in our life because that's like one 333 00:16:43.559 --> 00:16:46.799 hundred common sense, Like, hey, you guys don't even get along. 334 00:16:46.840 --> 00:16:48.720 This is like the biggest day of her life so far, 335 00:16:49.360 --> 00:16:51.919 so maybe you probably shouldn't be at the first thing 336 00:16:52.000 --> 00:16:54.759 she sees and Janna, Zach, I'm. 337 00:16:54.320 --> 00:16:57.159 Loving him too, so be coming. Yes, he's a drunk, 338 00:16:57.559 --> 00:16:59.879 Yes I get it. Yes he gets crazy, can be 339 00:17:00.120 --> 00:17:01.960 really mean, but like he's. 340 00:17:03.200 --> 00:17:05.240 Yes, and he's really and it makes sense and it 341 00:17:05.319 --> 00:17:08.079 actually gives me like the belief that this is kind 342 00:17:08.079 --> 00:17:10.119 of real. You know how it's so hard to suspend 343 00:17:10.160 --> 00:17:12.839 your disbelief on this, on this because it seems so 344 00:17:12.880 --> 00:17:15.279 produced and they all just want to be stars. But 345 00:17:15.359 --> 00:17:17.759 in this case, Zach seems like he's running around really 346 00:17:17.799 --> 00:17:20.400 trying to make like a nice thing for his friend Kristen, 347 00:17:20.599 --> 00:17:23.680 who ps neither of them were invited to Janet's fucking 348 00:17:23.759 --> 00:17:26.400 baby moon party, which is brought up in a second. 349 00:17:26.799 --> 00:17:29.319 Fuck you Jane, Okay, now I'm trying. Now, I would 350 00:17:29.359 --> 00:17:32.200 choose Na for lunch. I really wouldn't want to be 351 00:17:32.279 --> 00:17:34.279 with you. I would just choose that death, I guess. 352 00:17:34.359 --> 00:17:38.359 Yeah. But also it's interesting that Janet has honed in 353 00:17:38.960 --> 00:17:42.799 on Danny's drinking when there are other people that everybody 354 00:17:42.920 --> 00:17:46.119 constantly calls out as they're drinking. Is problematic. First of all, 355 00:17:46.400 --> 00:17:50.799 Britney has drunk a lot. Oh yeah, a lot. Obviously, 356 00:17:51.200 --> 00:17:54.359 Jax is like the worst person ever on reality TV. 357 00:17:54.559 --> 00:18:00.880 He's an abusive, physically abusive narcissist. But Janna, by the way, 358 00:18:01.000 --> 00:18:04.240 is friends with him, where almost everybody else is not 359 00:18:04.319 --> 00:18:07.599 friends with him anymore. That's on this cast. Janet is 360 00:18:07.640 --> 00:18:08.680 still his friend still. 361 00:18:09.079 --> 00:18:12.519 Beware Kristin is still friends with Jesse, because Kristin makes 362 00:18:12.559 --> 00:18:15.359 really bad choices too, and she's also like a Jack's apologist. 363 00:18:15.519 --> 00:18:19.200 Agree, totally agree with you. You know, there's a lot of 364 00:18:19.240 --> 00:18:21.680 gray area on this show. But I think it's interesting 365 00:18:22.200 --> 00:18:27.160 that Janet is not wildly after Zach still right, they 366 00:18:27.200 --> 00:18:30.359 talked it out. She talked out her thing with Zach, 367 00:18:30.440 --> 00:18:32.559 even though she accused him of wanting her to not 368 00:18:32.680 --> 00:18:35.519 carry her baby to full term. They've talked and talked 369 00:18:35.519 --> 00:18:39.160 and talked, But yet everybody says that Zach gets black 370 00:18:39.200 --> 00:18:42.519 out drunk and gets really mean, but she's decided that 371 00:18:42.599 --> 00:18:45.119 Danny is the worst over something that didn't happen to 372 00:18:45.160 --> 00:18:48.440 her even, right, So yeah, kind of it's just like 373 00:18:48.559 --> 00:18:51.079 I every time I watch her, I'm just like, uh no, 374 00:18:51.200 --> 00:18:53.279 she is the worst. She is the worst. I know 375 00:18:53.519 --> 00:18:55.519 a Janet. I know a Janet very well. 376 00:18:55.559 --> 00:18:58.480 We've talked about this in real life, and she bugs 377 00:18:58.519 --> 00:19:00.799 the fuck out of me and it's constant and whatever. 378 00:19:00.839 --> 00:19:03.640 But I just I guess I've just learned to ignore her. Yeah, 379 00:19:03.680 --> 00:19:05.680 So that's just how I feel about Janet. And this 380 00:19:05.839 --> 00:19:09.359 is the moment also where I think it's Jasmine. Somebody's like, so, 381 00:19:09.599 --> 00:19:12.000 somebody brings up Danny and Nia and they're like, hmmmm, 382 00:19:12.880 --> 00:19:15.960 is he taking a nap quote unquote, oh yeah. Again, 383 00:19:16.319 --> 00:19:17.720 the storyline, well this is. 384 00:19:17.880 --> 00:19:20.839 This is when they go outside, but Zach makes this 385 00:19:20.839 --> 00:19:22.880 a little announcement and he's like, yeah, a couple of 386 00:19:22.920 --> 00:19:26.400 people are missing. Uh, And then they show that two 387 00:19:26.440 --> 00:19:29.839 hours earlier. We get the flashback of Zach saying like, 388 00:19:30.519 --> 00:19:33.079 I don't want you to think that I'm discluding you, 389 00:19:33.319 --> 00:19:35.920 which is not a word, but it's okay, you're cute. 390 00:19:36.599 --> 00:19:39.279 He's yeah, I don't want to think I'm discluding you. 391 00:19:39.359 --> 00:19:42.799 So they just that's like noted, noted that he's saying, 392 00:19:43.000 --> 00:19:46.319 you're totally fine to come to the thing. But then 393 00:19:46.359 --> 00:19:49.559 Michelle goes, yeah, it's a little mean that she's in 394 00:19:49.640 --> 00:19:54.119 Hawaii and she's not invited. Come on, Michelle, don't make 395 00:19:54.119 --> 00:19:56.119 me hate you too. This is what might see. 396 00:19:56.119 --> 00:20:00.319 This is yeah, see, sometimes things are just complicated because 397 00:20:00.359 --> 00:20:02.880 I don't love Michelle. 398 00:20:02.680 --> 00:20:05.319 For many roles. I really don't like any of these people. 399 00:20:05.400 --> 00:20:06.000 Is the problem. 400 00:20:06.119 --> 00:20:08.319 This is what we're finding out. There are no rules. 401 00:20:08.680 --> 00:20:11.400