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Speaker 3: Week, so we're gonna get caught up.
Speaker 2: You've heard the comments from Mark Pope, Kenny Brooks. Tonight,
Speaker 2: Aaron Gershawan back from Austin, Texas. We'll talk Kentucky basketball,
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Speaker 2: Abriel joined my eron Gershawan. Somebody left the door open
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Speaker 2: Blues Brothers. We'll come back to that though. It's an
Speaker 2: important weekend for Blues Brothers fans. But Aaron, who did
Speaker 2: not make the Texas football trip because well, season was
Speaker 2: kind of broken down by this. But this was an
Speaker 2: important game for the Wildcats, and you know, I have
Speaker 2: a feeling eron well, I know that on Selection Sunday,
Speaker 2: we will look back we being the media and probably
Speaker 2: fans too, at games like this one. Yes, and there
Speaker 2: have been more than one. Yep, when you wonder about
Speaker 2: why is Kentucky a filling the blank seed and not
Speaker 2: a whatever seed with all the big wins, Yep, it's
Speaker 2: these losses the damage.
Speaker 3: You Yeah, especially like look, you're gonna have an Unfortunately
Speaker 3: it came on a night that was so emotional. You're
Speaker 3: gonna have knights like Arkansas where you just don't play
Speaker 3: well and you lose. You're gonna have nights like Ohio
Speaker 3: State where you just stink. But it's the van the
Speaker 3: way they lost at Vanderbilt where they came back and
Speaker 3: took an eight point lead and choked it, and the
Speaker 3: way that it fell apart here in Austin in the
Speaker 3: last game. Yeah, they took multiple leads, and it was
Speaker 3: I mean, they started the game hot, nine to two,
Speaker 3: run back and forth first half, take a four point
Speaker 3: lead in a halftime, came out of the gates pretty hot.
Speaker 3: In the second half. They were back up I think
Speaker 3: by seven when all Minor hit that corner.
Speaker 4: Three.
Speaker 3: Texas comes back. But then Kentucky's up five with three
Speaker 3: point fifty left, and a lot of people were unhappy
Speaker 3: with me on the good old Twitter because I posted
Speaker 3: after the game that really, you can't this game is
Speaker 3: not because they didn't have Jackson Robinson and Lamont Butler.
Speaker 3: And I'm not at all diminishing the fact that you're
Speaker 3: without Lamont Butler's best your point guard, your best defense player,
Speaker 3: and Jackson Robinson your best all around shooter. But they
Speaker 3: had the game won. And I'll tell you being there
Speaker 3: in the building something that may not have been showed
Speaker 3: on TV is Texas the body language was not good. Really, yeah,
Speaker 3: it was not. They kind of seemed like never came up.
Speaker 3: They looked pretty defeated when Kentucky went back up by five,
Speaker 3: especially after I think it was Omari had the n one. Well,
Speaker 3: there's a time out. The cameras follows the team then right,
Speaker 3: so the and won by Amari that he ends up
Speaker 3: missing the free throw and then they called the lane
Speaker 3: violation that wasn't but after that Texas looked pretty dejected.
Speaker 3: I thought, even if you even when he missed the
Speaker 3: free throw in the lane, I was like, I think
Speaker 3: they have them where they want them. I think they're
Speaker 3: going to pull it out. But they just it was
Speaker 3: all preventable mistakes they didn't. I mean, the they gave
Speaker 3: up the quick layup and one right after the Amari
Speaker 3: the Amari lane violation, they have an awful turnover where
Speaker 3: they're after Otega misses a free throw, they're up by one,
Speaker 3: uh awful entry pass turnover by Travis Perry, and then
Speaker 3: that turns into foul where Perry ends up fouling to
Speaker 3: stop a break. Johnson gets to the line, he misses
Speaker 3: the second and you're like, and he's so automatic that
Speaker 3: it was almost as if Amari Williams was like, he's
Speaker 3: not gonna miss I'm not even gonna block out. Well,
Speaker 3: he misses, Johnson gets his own rebound, misses the put back,
Speaker 3: and then another Texas player gets the rebound. Dunks at home,
Speaker 3: and that felt like in the middle of four among
Speaker 3: four Blue Jersey. Yes, just not terrible execution. And maybe
Speaker 3: and it's not an excuse because these are, you know,
Speaker 3: world class college basketball players, but I don't know if
Speaker 3: that's basketball. No, I'm saying this one like maybe they
Speaker 3: got fatigued, but still exactly got a.
Speaker 4: Box their team.
Speaker 3: No, you have to have exactly they were without two
Speaker 3: starters two which is something that was not taken into
Speaker 3: a camp a Kentucky fan, so very much a preventable
Speaker 3: loss to into something we were talking about off air
Speaker 3: Trey Johnson stud top five pick Tremon Mark Kentucky killer
Speaker 3: the last two years.
Speaker 4: Other than that, it's not a very good text.
Speaker 3: They really aren't.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And your tweet when I saw it, I immediately said, yep, yep, Uh,
Speaker 2: it doesn't surprise me. People weren't happy with you.
Speaker 3: No, and but that's just what I was about to
Speaker 3: show up my column on it because you tweeted that before.
Speaker 3: Mark post Absolutely, he said when he was asked like it,
Speaker 3: did you know the angle that Ben Roberts took was
Speaker 3: the fatigue play a factor? It's a fair question, and
Speaker 3: he was like, we're not going to have a space
Speaker 3: for that way really good players and to his point.
Speaker 3: You know, Travis Perry, the turnover stunk, but he stepped
Speaker 3: up and played some valuable minutes and did some big
Speaker 3: shots and tryan Noah had a really deep three again
Speaker 3: at six rebounds at you know, six six whatever he is.
Speaker 3: So you had guys step up to where for thirty
Speaker 3: six minutes you were the better team without your two
Speaker 3: lead guards.
Speaker 4: But you let go of their open the four minutes
Speaker 4: that matters, right.
Speaker 3: I had never heard that expression until Cali Perry got here,
Speaker 3: and now I find it popping in Yeah, popping into
Speaker 3: my head all the time, and it's exactly what happened.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Trendonah. By the way, fifty to fifty balls.
Speaker 3: Oh, very entertaining is Yeah, he works his butt off. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's the type of play. That's what makes a guy
Speaker 3: like him, not only the fact he's from you know,
Speaker 3: Harlan County, but that's what makes it. He dad at
Speaker 3: Harlan County. Yes he did, but it makes you a
Speaker 3: fan favorite even if he weren't from Kentucky. If anyone
Speaker 3: that dives on the floor like that is so aggressive
Speaker 3: on fifty to fifty balls, he plays unafraid, which is
Speaker 3: both with that and the threes. He takes just ridiculous
Speaker 3: shots that he is making at a high rate. So
Speaker 3: you know, he gave them what they needed. Amari Williams
Speaker 3: had an excellent game outside of the end there with
Speaker 3: the boxing out issues and you know, take away wasn't great,
Speaker 3: but he still scored twenty points. It's like, you gotta
Speaker 3: win that game.
Speaker 2: Tell you a great fifty to fifty moment. Fifty to
Speaker 2: fifty ball moment. Go an old guy on you.
Speaker 4: All right, you know who Chuck Hay is. Yes, right, you.
Speaker 2: Are a student of Kentucky basketball. His first game and
Speaker 2: they put him in, he comes off the bench, there
Speaker 2: was a fifty to fifty ball that was flying at
Speaker 2: of bounds. Chuck has laid out like a receiver to
Speaker 2: go after that. But like he was actually like a
Speaker 2: lineman trying to recover a fumble. But I mean he
Speaker 2: dove and it turned out to be out of bounds,
Speaker 2: you know, but the fans went crazy for it. And
Speaker 2: from that point on, he was the patron saint of
Speaker 2: fifty to fifty balls at Kentucky, and he set an example. Yes,
Speaker 2: you know, there were some factionalism on one or two
Speaker 2: of his teams, but you know, the guys in the
Speaker 2: Chuck Hayes camp they were.
Speaker 4: Fifty to fifty guys as well.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it makes a huge difference, especially right now when
Speaker 3: you're shorthanded. Those are the little things in games. So
Speaker 3: and they did against Tennessee. They were very scrappy in
Speaker 3: that Tennessee game, I thought, and even in this game,
Speaker 3: I didn't think they were terrible defensively in this game.
Speaker 3: I think Trag Johnson's just he does that to everybody.
Speaker 3: And then Tremon Mark had a great game, and I
Speaker 3: thought even some of the defense on him wasn't terrible.
Speaker 3: It was just to me more so.
Speaker 4: The four organ It just goes back to those last fours.
Speaker 2: I wondered about helpside defense on Johnson when he turned
Speaker 2: a corner head for the basket, and he's good enough.
Speaker 2: He probably would have scored anyway. Matter, No, probably didn't.
Speaker 3: But no, I mean, look, I mean I thought Trent
Speaker 3: no it did an admirable job. I mean they only
Speaker 3: I think he only made one three. I think they
Speaker 3: held him in check from three for the most part.
Speaker 4: That's not a three point shooting team.
Speaker 3: No, No, but I'm talking about Johnson himself, right, I think, right,
Speaker 3: he only hit one. Uh, you know, I thought, you know,
Speaker 3: Colin Chandler got on him for possession. He struggled to
Speaker 3: Andrew Carr, they put him on him. That didn't go well.
Speaker 3: But look, he's a that's a top five pick. That's
Speaker 3: I mean, he's the leading scorer in the SEC as
Speaker 3: a freshman.
Speaker 2: Andrew Carr still doesn't look No, clearly he's not one
Speaker 2: hundred percent.
Speaker 4: Yeah, it looks better, but he's not on.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But I just wonder where he is because you know,
Speaker 2: it's interesting every time I see him struggle. I think
Speaker 2: back to the first handful of games when he was
Speaker 2: really playing well. Jackson Robinson was trying to find his way,
Speaker 2: and I remember a lot of people, myself included, thought
Speaker 2: this team will.
Speaker 3: Go as Andrew Carr goes. Sure, and some of the
Speaker 3: national heads thought the same. He won them the Duke
Speaker 3: game down the stretch exactly, but that wasn't the only
Speaker 3: There were stretches in other games. Sure, and now this
Speaker 3: team has chored and blossomed and all that. Meanwhile, he's
Speaker 3: hurt and struggling.
Speaker 2: He is, so whatever they can get back from him,
Speaker 2: whatever else but me and a back injury.
Speaker 3: Back injury is tough and he's already not you know,
Speaker 3: coming into this season, defense wasn't necessarily his calling card.
Speaker 3: And that's more the issues are on the mind. I mean,
Speaker 3: they're still finishing at the room, okay. And I actually thought,
Speaker 3: you know, when I thought they were going to win
Speaker 3: the game. The two plays I had circled were, of course,
Speaker 3: a Mario Williams sitting a three. It was like, how
Speaker 3: do you lose a game where you get that? First
Speaker 3: of all, but no, And then the other one where
Speaker 3: I think it was early in the second half, might
Speaker 3: have been late in the first where Carr kind of
Speaker 3: dives on the floor for a loose ball and he's
Speaker 3: kind of looked like he was stuck and he was
Speaker 3: able to kind of maintain a dribble. There's a great play. Yeah,
Speaker 3: And he got up and he drew a foul and
Speaker 3: he made both free throws. Like those were the type
Speaker 3: of we were talking about the scrapping its Trentonoah, Like,
Speaker 3: those are the type of plays when you're short handed
Speaker 3: when you basketball games. And I was kind of gonna
Speaker 3: write about those type of things after the game, but
Speaker 3: unfortunately they gave me something more negative.
Speaker 2: Throw it up, Jimmy Dike's mentioned and I told you earlier.
Speaker 2: I listened to Tom and Jack in the first half,
Speaker 2: listened to TV in the second half, which I usually
Speaker 2: try to do because people end up complaining about something that.
Speaker 2: You know, whoever did the game said, I want to
Speaker 2: be able to speak to that. But anyhow, he mentioned
Speaker 2: how smart it was for Car, a veteran player, to
Speaker 2: start dribbling the ball before he got up, because most
Speaker 2: people don't. And I got to admit, I know that
Speaker 2: when somebody's on the floor like that and they're rolling.
Speaker 3: And you hear so many people, oh's that not walking,
Speaker 3: Well it's not ever.
Speaker 2: But here, you know, people don't understand the rule. But
Speaker 2: the rule is trying to advance the ball.
Speaker 3: Uh. And I've always you know, I've been told by.
Speaker 2: A referee, if you try to get up, you know,
Speaker 2: and you've established a pivot foot, now that's travel.
Speaker 3: But not if you're dribbling, you know. And that was
Speaker 3: such a smart play. It was a great play Car.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: And you know, again, those they made, that's what was
Speaker 3: so frustrating about it. They made a lot of winning
Speaker 3: plays and had a lot of winning uh segments, But
Speaker 3: those last four minutes were some of the worst basketball
Speaker 3: they've played all year.
Speaker 4: And that's why. Uh, you know, I saw it on TV.
Speaker 3: I didn't really see it in lifetime because at that
Speaker 3: point in the game, your head down on your computer
Speaker 3: trying to get your buzzer work done. But uh, that
Speaker 3: was as animated as angry as I've seen Mark Pope
Speaker 3: look really. Yeah, there's a clip going around. Uh he
Speaker 3: was pissed off, and yeah, I get why.
Speaker 2: Well, I saw him more than once looking pretty angry
Speaker 2: on the shot and I don't remember which which place.
Speaker 3: They were down by six with thirty four seconds aft,
Speaker 3: they threw it away on an inbounds pass.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that was particularly bad, ugly.
Speaker 2: One of the things that you and I discussed when
Speaker 2: we first sat down we're talking Aaron Gershan of the
Speaker 2: Gash Boss, was you offered your response and reaction to
Speaker 2: the arena.
Speaker 4: Oh gosh awesome.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was joking, like, can we we get the
Speaker 3: SEC tournament here?
Speaker 4: Something you can get us here more often? It I mean,
Speaker 4: it's a brand.
Speaker 3: I think it's three or four years old, and they'd
Speaker 3: host a lot of concerts and it it kind of
Speaker 3: has an NBA vibe to it outside, like they have
Speaker 3: a lot of things going on, like festivities. They have
Speaker 3: like a green space that kind of looks like those
Speaker 3: football fields that they set up at NFL stadiums.
Speaker 4: There's just a lot going on.
Speaker 3: And then you get inside and as you probably saw
Speaker 3: on TV, they have these ginormous beautiful screens around the
Speaker 3: entire upper level and they have you know, whether they
Speaker 3: have stats on them. They had the UT Texas softball
Speaker 3: game and baseball game going the whole time. It was
Speaker 3: really cool and really the whole time.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and on.
Speaker 3: One that's yeah, there's like nine ten sures, but really cool.
Speaker 3: And they had but anytime you won, you've can look
Speaker 3: up and yeah, super innovative. And then you had you know,
Speaker 3: all this crazy food options.
Speaker 4: The media.
Speaker 3: They had a media buffet with in this beautiful lounge
Speaker 3: room where there was literally couches to sit in. They
Speaker 3: had coffee makers and all this great stuff. They took
Speaker 3: care of us, So shout out to It's always bigger
Speaker 3: in Texas, I guess, but it's also brand new, so
Speaker 3: you know, really cool place watch a game.
Speaker 2: When I worked in Dallas with the Football Radio Network,
Speaker 2: one of our assignments per Jim Host, and he sold
Speaker 2: the league on this we're going to try to help
Speaker 2: all sports, including basketball. Obviously, the basketball coaches loved to
Speaker 2: hear that, and we had a weekly show for when
Speaker 2: all the coaches rotated. The only coach you wouldn't participate
Speaker 2: Eddie Sutton at Arkansas. But anyhow, the one school I
Speaker 2: was told that had a really good basketball facility Texas.
Speaker 2: I was told it was the best in the league.
Speaker 2: And that's the one that's history now. Yes, but so
Speaker 2: they've always kind of had an eye on.
Speaker 3: I mean, look they've they're not known for it, but
Speaker 3: they've had some really good years and some really good
Speaker 3: players come through. Kevin Durant is the one that comes
Speaker 3: to mind, and some really good coaches too. So yeah,
Speaker 3: it was a first class environment. Experienced a lot of
Speaker 3: Kentucky fans there he felt bad for. I don't know
Speaker 3: if they traveled. Most of them probably is live in
Speaker 3: the area. I mean, Austin has become I don't know
Speaker 3: if it's the most popular city to move to right now,
Speaker 3: but it's got to be up there. And tons of
Speaker 3: UK fans that that made their themselves present. And estimate
Speaker 3: thirty percent of the arena thirty I put it at
Speaker 3: thirty percent and it might be a little biased because
Speaker 3: the whole media section we were like in a UK
Speaker 3: like section one twenty three where the media is there
Speaker 3: was like all blue, and then that whole side like
Speaker 3: it felt like our whole like three four sections over
Speaker 3: all blue. It was very It was a really good
Speaker 3: showing and they were the fans that were there early.
Speaker 3: You know, Texas's Student Center showed out.
Speaker 4: It was it was. It was if it wasn't sold that,
Speaker 4: it was pretty close.
Speaker 2: TV and radio both conveyed that the crowd was great,
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Speaker 2: It is a big Blue Insider. Did Gabriel Aarreyn Gershan
Speaker 2: of the Cat's Pause Billy Rutlis with a night off
Speaker 2: Old Robinson's City in one of the Go Big Blues
Speaker 2: Brothers And it's been a big weekend for Saturday Night
Speaker 2: Live fans and Blues Brothers fans. So we'll get to
Speaker 2: bo and a little while and talk about the guys
Speaker 2: who absolutely inspired the Go Big Blues Brothers. But Aaron
Speaker 2: and I are talking about Kentucky's loss. He was down
Speaker 2: there in Austin when the Wildcat lost Texas damaging loss.
Speaker 2: And this comes right after that Tennessee game, and that
Speaker 2: brings us and this has happened.
Speaker 4: More than once this year. Week it feels like they
Speaker 4: win a game.
Speaker 2: Honestly, I thought, no, they're not going to beat Tennessee
Speaker 2: because they they're missing too many key people. Yep, and
Speaker 2: Tennessee's pissed off from what happened last time. They will
Speaker 2: not shoot forty five threes. They will not hand opportunities
Speaker 2: to the Wildcats, which they did not. But Kentucky played
Speaker 2: really well.
Speaker 3: It was the same game except the forty five threes.
Speaker 3: Kentucky shi same exact mark from three.
Speaker 2: Exactly, and then gave it back with the loss. Yes,
Speaker 2: to come from a head loss, and those are the
Speaker 2: most frustrating.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean it goes back to that week in
Speaker 3: December where Clemson, it's turned out they're pretty good, but
Speaker 3: you lose the Clemson, you beaton Zaga you I think
Speaker 3: it was Georgia lost down there, and then you beat
Speaker 3: Mississippi State and look how bad George's played since then.
Speaker 3: It's there's a lot of these weeks this season it's.
Speaker 4: Gone mentioned a game they gave back. Yeah, that was
Speaker 4: a yeah, that was coming off of bye.
Speaker 3: Just such a weird year where it seems like it
Speaker 3: it seems like it's as simple as they play up
Speaker 3: to their competition and then they play down, which could
Speaker 3: be right, but you buy it a little bit. But
Speaker 3: I think it's there's a little more to it. I
Speaker 3: was trying to that was kind of had a lot
Speaker 3: of time at the Austin Airport on Sunday, just with
Speaker 3: a late afternoon flight and hotel checkout and not much
Speaker 3: to do Austin Marathon couldn't get back downtown, so I
Speaker 3: was looking through trying to find some similarities and the
Speaker 3: only thing I could find are teams that kind of
Speaker 3: have that go to bucket getter that you know, everyone
Speaker 3: says Kentucky doesn't have, and maybe they're right on that
Speaker 3: they've really struggled, like Trey Johnson Jason Edwards for Vanderbilt.
Speaker 4: Is one of them. There's one another one I'm missing.
Speaker 3: Ason Newell's been that for Georgia where they they were
Speaker 3: teams that are more balanced, like Louisville has a bunch
Speaker 3: of different dudes who get it done. Florida has a
Speaker 3: bunch of different dudes to get it done. Tennessee's had
Speaker 3: to be more balanced because Lanier hasn't played very well
Speaker 3: a SEC play like they've done better with the teams
Speaker 3: that are balanced. It almost feels like when there's a
Speaker 3: go to bucket together, either they well usually those bucket
Speaker 3: getters get them, but also it leaves someone else to
Speaker 3: kind of be off the scouting report that maybe they
Speaker 3: like Tremon Mark did at Texas or Grant Nelson. Did
Speaker 3: you know with Alabama and Mark Siers Grant Nelson went
Speaker 3: berserk had his best game of the year. So those
Speaker 3: have been ones. It's kind of been teams that actually,
Speaker 3: believe it or not, are not great offensive rebounding teams.
Speaker 3: Like the ones that are really good, like A and
Speaker 3: M's the best. They beat them and held them in check.
Speaker 3: They won the battle on the boards that game. Offensive
Speaker 3: glass included Florida. They didn't play great on the boards,
Speaker 3: but they won the game. Louisville's one of the better
Speaker 3: offensive rebounding teams. They've played Tennessee. It's almost as if
Speaker 3: when it's on the scouting report they key in so
Speaker 3: hard and get it done well. When it's not, Like
Speaker 3: Clemson and Texas are both in the high one hundreds
Speaker 3: in the country and offensive rebounding they both got fifteen,
Speaker 3: so it's almost as if, like it's not on the
Speaker 3: scouting report, they're not necessarily keyed in on it. And
Speaker 3: then the third one was teams with elite shooting big men.
Speaker 2: I think the problem stopping a big bucket getter on
Speaker 2: the opposing team. Do you feel like Kentucky doesn't other
Speaker 2: than Lamont Butler doesn't have anybody who's even remote part
Speaker 2: of this to being an elite on ball defender.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I think that's part of it. You know, Takeaway
Speaker 3: was supposed to kind of be that guy, and I
Speaker 3: think he hasn't quite been it, and I think that
Speaker 3: is part of it. And I also do think too
Speaker 3: though the scouting report has something to say about it,
Speaker 3: they are very information database team. There's no question about it.
Speaker 3: Mark Pope will tell you that straight up. And I
Speaker 3: think that that's a really good thing because you want
Speaker 3: to be prepared, and it's helped them in a lot
Speaker 3: of games. But sometimes when you're so in your head
Speaker 3: about it, maybe it has a different effect. And I
Speaker 3: think these bucket getters maybe it's in their head a bit,
Speaker 3: and then they don't have the on ball defender or
Speaker 3: they key in so hard on them. Like I said,
Speaker 3: they're leaving someone else who's capable open, and that's kind
Speaker 3: of that happened against Texas Tremont. Mark kind of made
Speaker 3: the day difference in that game. Grant Nelson made the
Speaker 3: difference in the Alabama game. You're so key, you know
Speaker 3: Mark Sears. So that's been a common thing. And then
Speaker 3: you know again, the other concerning thing these teams that
Speaker 3: have really that was another frustrating part of the Texas
Speaker 3: game is Arthur Kalma. Texas is starting four. He is
Speaker 3: a thirty nine percent three shooter at six eight, and
Speaker 3: those are the type of guys that Kentucky struggles with.
Speaker 3: Like we saw Big Z couldn't stop him. He's even taller,
Speaker 3: but you know, forward and having to come out and
Speaker 3: guard him. The kid from Vanderbilt. So they'll see again
Speaker 3: Wednesday ninety nine. He's a six eight forward. He's a
Speaker 3: thirty eight percent three shooter. He went two for four
Speaker 3: against the Cats from three. A's a new weell down a.
Speaker 3: Georgia's six eleven projected a lottery pick when two to
Speaker 3: four from three. So they really struggled to guard these
Speaker 3: forwards who shoot the three. And I think part of
Speaker 3: that is just their forwards are not very good at
Speaker 3: getting out and covering face guarding, and that's what.
Speaker 2: It takes, because I mean, you can get out on
Speaker 2: a six to eleven three point shooter. He ain't gonna
Speaker 2: drive around you, brother, right if you take the arc
Speaker 2: away from you, he's got a pass the ball.
Speaker 3: Now.
Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe he cuts after that and you don't want
Speaker 2: to lose him. I get that, because now he's going
Speaker 2: for a lob. But you know, to your point, you
Speaker 2: don't stand at their six feet away and dare him
Speaker 2: to shoot, yeah, because they're.
Speaker 3: Going to kill you, right, And you look at like
Speaker 3: Tennessee doesn't. Actually, they do have that guy, and he
Speaker 3: kills them. Every time Millerchick has gone, he's been the
Speaker 3: only guy shooting well from three.
Speaker 4: Against Kentucky, it.
Speaker 2: Seemed like they came out second half Tennessee yeah, and thought, okay,
Speaker 2: we're going through a milicic and it worked.
Speaker 3: It worked for till the first TV. It worked until
Speaker 3: actually it worked till the six minute mark and they
Speaker 3: took Milicick out of the game for defense. Ohah, can
Speaker 3: kind of Rick Barnes beat himself a little there. But yeah,
Speaker 3: I mean, look Florida, right, they don't have an elite
Speaker 3: shooting three, and I wonder elite shooting big man I
Speaker 3: wonder if that makes the difference in that Florida game
Speaker 3: if they had that.
Speaker 4: Texas A and M.
Speaker 3: Certain they're not a good three point shooting team period.
Speaker 3: They don't have anyone in their front court shooting above
Speaker 3: twenty five percent from three. I was looking at that
Speaker 3: yesterday like like that Kentucky matches up really well. That
Speaker 3: was another reason I like this Texas matchup going in
Speaker 3: where yes, they have the bucket geter in Johnson, but
Speaker 3: they don't have that three point thret threat from the
Speaker 3: from the front court. But they just choked in the
Speaker 3: last four minutes. So now you've lost another game.
Speaker 2: If you're Kentucky, one of a handful we've talked about
Speaker 2: that will cost you on selection Sunday.
Speaker 3: Yeah, it is Quad one A. But still it's like
Speaker 3: it could have helped you big time. Oh yeah, and
Speaker 3: you know people are going to complain bitterly we won
Speaker 3: this game, we won that game. But on the other hand,
Speaker 3: they could be sub five hundred in the sec.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: No, I mean what this Texas game does, It doesn't
Speaker 3: leave you any margin for error because the rest of
Speaker 3: their year I think it's split kind of they have
Speaker 3: Obviously they have the monsters in Alabama and Auburn and Missouri,
Speaker 3: even Looming, those are all Quad one A games, but
Speaker 3: they play Vandy is going to be a Quad two
Speaker 3: game here Wednesday. LSU at the end of the year
Speaker 3: is a Quad three game at home, and then the
Speaker 3: Oklahoma games Squad one. But they're in like the fifties,
Speaker 3: you can't lose those. Become all three of those if
Speaker 3: you want to be a three seed, become must win
Speaker 3: us where you could probably have avoid you could probably
Speaker 3: had a slip up in one of the quad twos
Speaker 3: or oh yeah, but now they're all must win and
Speaker 3: you probably to be safe need to steal one of
Speaker 3: those big ones, whether it's at Alabama here against Auburn
Speaker 3: or atzoo.
Speaker 4: Good luck with that. How do you guard anyone on Auburn?
Speaker 3: And then Missouri they they're not a good defensive team,
Speaker 3: but they score in the hundreds too, So yeah, the
Speaker 3: margin of error has been kind of thrown out the window.
Speaker 3: And you're also more of a fan based thing. But
Speaker 3: you're in risk with the new SEC tournament format of
Speaker 3: playing on Wednesday, because nine through sixteen are playing on Wednesday.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and that's it's gonna be harder to win a
Speaker 2: lot of people believe and I do too, the SEC
Speaker 2: tournament than the tournament.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and you know there are definitely Like I was
Speaker 3: having a conversation with someone made a really good point
Speaker 3: where you have all these teams that are set in
Speaker 3: the tournament are going to be one in two seeds.
Speaker 3: Like if you get into a game with Florida and struggling,
Speaker 3: they might take their foot off the gas and you
Speaker 3: might get them that day. But if you want to
Speaker 3: win that tournament, you don't want to start on Wednesday.
Speaker 3: And you also, if you're Kentucky with all the injury issues,
Speaker 3: you just don't want that at all. You almost hope
Speaker 3: you if you play on Wednesday, maybe win Wednesday Thursday
Speaker 3: and go home on Friday.
Speaker 4: Like it's just it becomes top.
Speaker 3: Did you have a chance at all?
Speaker 2: I got about twenty seconds to see any of the
Speaker 2: Auburn Alabama game.
Speaker 3: I did see a good amount of at Auburn. Just
Speaker 3: every time they're just good. Yeah, they're so good. And
Speaker 3: every time Alabama mitter round, Auburn.
Speaker 4: Just put a botch on it. Exactly.
Speaker 2: All right, We'll come back and talk more Kentucky basketball,
Speaker 2: a little football as well, and we'll visit with a
Speaker 2: Go bab Go Big Blues brother in just a minute
Speaker 2: here on a Stay Wide BBI, Stay Wide Big Blue
Speaker 2: and Saturday Kabrill Iren Gershin of the Cats Balls along
Speaker 2: with our studio producers and it is Bot Robinson wild
Speaker 2: Cats with a Wednesday game, which is a little unusual,
Speaker 2: but you know, with TV being what it is. But
Speaker 2: now you're in a stretch run under Mark Pope. I
Speaker 2: keep reminding myself Aaron that preseason, Yeah, I was like
Speaker 2: so many people who said five hundred in the league,
Speaker 2: win a game or two in the SEC tournament, win
Speaker 2: a game in the NCAA tournament, and it would be
Speaker 2: you could consider this year a success. And yet we
Speaker 2: just got done talking about all the ups and downs.
Speaker 2: The ups of course getting everybody's hopes, so then the
Speaker 2: downs just just ice water in the face.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Look, and when you especially with the way they started,
Speaker 3: and you beat Duke, and you beat even with the
Speaker 3: lost of Gonzaga, beat are lost to Climbs, and you
Speaker 3: beatn Zaga and then you open SEC played by being
Speaker 3: a Florida team that now look up and they're number
Speaker 3: two in the country. You reshuffle the deck, you reset
Speaker 3: your expectations and I get it, man, and and I
Speaker 3: think you know what not to interrupt you. Yeah, I
Speaker 3: think that's fair, fair because it's you. They showed, here's
Speaker 3: what they're capable to do. Absolutely, we can they had
Speaker 3: just last week, like, here's what they're Also, they'll proven
Speaker 3: they can beat anybody in the country just about. We'll
Speaker 3: see what has against Auburn in two weeks. But you know,
Speaker 3: they've beat all the number of two Florida right now.
Speaker 3: I think Duke is number three. They beat them, They
Speaker 3: shout Alabama on the ropes. They beat Tennessee twice, who's
Speaker 3: number six, Like they can beat just about anyone. But
Speaker 3: they also are two and six against non ranked five themes.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 2: The one of the other things that frustrates man, it
Speaker 2: always has is people who and I'm talking Kentucky fans,
Speaker 2: people who look at the injury situation and say, well,
Speaker 2: that's just an excuse. Yeah no, no, it's talent. I
Speaker 2: would say, Talent matters. Sure, that's why we choose side
Speaker 2: in the schoolyard. That's why one kids picked first and
Speaker 2: a kid like me is picked last. You know, Talent matters. Sure,
Speaker 2: But then they'll go down to Tennessee minus Lamont Butler
Speaker 2: and win and Tennessee up here and minus Jackson Robinson
Speaker 2: who had the game of a lifetime against Tennessee.
Speaker 4: And no la Mont Butler for the most crucial stress
Speaker 4: yes and still win.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and lead back to your original point, Lee Texas,
Speaker 3: as Pope said, for thirty six minutes, yep, minus fill
Speaker 3: in the blanks.
Speaker 9: Yep.
Speaker 3: They had the game won, they had it won, they
Speaker 3: had him on the ropes and they'd let go.
Speaker 2: So and it wasn't like Texas, with all due respect,
Speaker 2: made incredible plays. Johnson is an incredible player, yes, but
Speaker 2: play those plays room routine, absolutely.
Speaker 3: But I mean getting your own rebound on a free
Speaker 3: throw yep, Yeah, for the and then you know, not
Speaker 3: only did they get he get his own rebound, he
Speaker 3: then missed and they still got the rebound. So it's
Speaker 3: just it's little things, man, that all added up. And yeah,
Speaker 3: you're definitely going into the ear if you were to say,
Speaker 3: in this SEC you go nine to nine, maybe win
Speaker 3: two SEC tournament games, get to the second week, not
Speaker 3: necessarily the second week, and at least the second round.
Speaker 3: You're probably signing up for it as a start. But
Speaker 3: when you have all those big wins. That's kind of like,
Speaker 3: all right, like we expect more, and I still think too,
Speaker 3: they're still a part of Big Blue Nation, And I
Speaker 3: get it where it's you look at the SEC and
Speaker 3: you're six and six and you don't quite understand, and
Speaker 3: it's like, how are these teams ahead of you? But
Speaker 3: boy is it changed, whether it's nil the big name
Speaker 3: coaches that are in this league now, it's a tough, tough,
Speaker 3: tough league. And you know, do you want to be
Speaker 3: six and six?
Speaker 5: No?
Speaker 3: Because of the teams you've lost to, Like there's no
Speaker 3: reason you should have lost to Georgia this year, to Texas,
Speaker 3: even to Vanderbilt. But that's just life in this SEC.
Speaker 3: There are some really good teams that have the record
Speaker 3: they do. I mean, Mississippi State's have ranked been a
Speaker 3: ranked team pretty much from the from day one, and
Speaker 3: they're six and six in the league. I think will
Speaker 3: Miss is seven and five are also six and six
Speaker 3: in the league. It's a it's a hard league. Tennessee's
Speaker 3: lost five league games and they're the number six team
Speaker 3: in America. At one point they were top ranked in
Speaker 3: the country. Yeah, exactly, and you know they're I think
Speaker 3: their losses are two to Kentucky, one to Florida, one
Speaker 3: to Auburn, and then the Vandy game. So it's just
Speaker 3: it's life in the Sea and he's a spoiler this year. Yeah,
Speaker 3: they've beaten Texas and or excuse me, they beat Texas too,
Speaker 3: but they've been Tennessee and Kentucky and they look. I
Speaker 3: don't know if you saw Auburn got on up to
Speaker 3: a fifteen oh run to start the game against him last.
Speaker 4: Week against Vandy, I didn't see it. And then Manny
Speaker 4: took the lead and they lost. They lost.
Speaker 3: Everyone loses Auburn except for Duke and I think Florida.
Speaker 3: But yeah, like it's a tough league. I mean again,
Speaker 3: I don't. I think we're kind of seeing like Oklahoma's
Speaker 3: falling off. Texas has fallen off except for Saturday.
Speaker 2: They kind of knew Oklahoma, I mean, it's thirteen and
Speaker 2: oh going in the league.
Speaker 4: But who believed in them?
Speaker 3: I didn't.
Speaker 4: They're only big one, the Terrible.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 4: Yeah, and they only got louisvillecause it was a tournament. Yeah.
Speaker 3: So and yeah, so you know, Oklahoma's probably fallen out.
Speaker 3: Georgia is gonna fall out, Texas is probably going to
Speaker 3: end up making it, but Arkansas is right on the cusp,
Speaker 3: probably still going to miss it. And then you know,
Speaker 3: LSU and South Carolina kind of stink. But the rest
Speaker 3: league is really good and anyone could beat anybody.
Speaker 2: And conversely, Yo, l fans are reveling in Kentucky struggles.
Speaker 3: And they're getting playing in the worst acc Ever, that
Speaker 3: is not what Pat Kelsey's doing now. They you know,
Speaker 3: put them in this SEC. They're finishing where Arkansas is
Speaker 3: in my opinion probably you know, not that they haven't
Speaker 3: done a great jow.
Speaker 4: Pack Kelsey is in a wonderful job.
Speaker 3: You shouldn't go the year among the top five cookers
Speaker 3: along with Pope yep, along with Bruce Pearl. Bruce Pearl,
Speaker 3: even though Autun was expected.
Speaker 4: To be good.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and uh Vandy yeah, Mark Yeah, yeah, Byington and
Speaker 3: and toug Olden I think you got to throw but yeah, no,
Speaker 3: pack Elsie in Louisville, I've had a wonderful season.
Speaker 4: But yeah, there's.
Speaker 3: A reason they're still like thirty in the net when
Speaker 3: they have lost six games all year. It's because they
Speaker 3: played terrible opponents and they have a quad three whole
Speaker 3: quad the road loss. You know, hardest to have a
Speaker 3: quad three road loss. You's got to play a really
Speaker 3: bad team to lose to them.
Speaker 2: So, like my little brother texted me after the win,
Speaker 2: he said, it's fun again. That's all he said, is
Speaker 2: it's fun again.
Speaker 3: Yeah, no, no, just Likeeah, I'm happy for their fan.
Speaker 3: It's good to have both teams good, but they are.
Speaker 3: This is yeah, And I've seen some of them be like, well,
Speaker 3: Kentucky want a bunch of bad secs. That's true, but
Speaker 3: this year ain't a bad sea.
Speaker 2: It's it's amazing and yeah, and it was even more interesting.
Speaker 2: Is it was very predictable or was let's say predicted. Yes,
Speaker 2: you know, it's just amazing the way I clearly, the portal,
Speaker 2: just the way everything came together. Wow, that team's going
Speaker 2: to be good. Wow, that team's gonna be good.
Speaker 3: I guess the only surprises are how bad maybe South
Speaker 3: Carolina is, Yeah, the tournament team last year, Yeah, maybe
Speaker 3: people Arkansas, I mean, the coach of the year last year. Yes,
Speaker 3: lamon Paris, Arkansas, I think is the biggest surprise.
Speaker 4: Yeah, in the league.
Speaker 3: Although of late, Arkansas let one get away the other night.
Speaker 3: They sure did a and m They had a and
Speaker 3: m Yeah, the awesome Missouri on the other end of
Speaker 3: the spectrum, they were owen nineteen last year counting the
Speaker 3: SEC tournament, And you know, Missouri is kind of that
Speaker 3: state is kind of the head of the game in
Speaker 3: the NAL. That's why you've seen Eli Drinkwitz do what
Speaker 3: he's done with the football program. Dennis Gates goes and
Speaker 3: spends big in the portal this year and they're in
Speaker 3: the top four I think in the league, in top
Speaker 3: fifteen in the country, and have one of the most
Speaker 3: official offenses in the country. Like Dennis Gates should be
Speaker 3: the SEC Coach of the Year, if not, if it's
Speaker 3: not Pope or Byington or one of the other ones.
Speaker 3: So are Golden Pearl And there's so many worthy candidates
Speaker 3: it's insane. So it's just it's a great league. And
Speaker 3: you know, I saw a report today that LSU is
Speaker 3: sticking with Matt McMahon, the former Murray State coach, and
Speaker 3: they plan. They were the second lowest NIL spenders in
Speaker 3: the SEC this offseason, behind LSU, ahead of South Carolina,
Speaker 3: and they are committed to being a top spender. So
Speaker 3: look out, LC is gonna be really good next year.
Speaker 4: That'll change.
Speaker 3: You can set your watch by that kind of thing,
Speaker 3: or set your checkbook.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's just in this league.
Speaker 3: And again there's so many good The fact that John
Speaker 3: cal Perry, who you look, he's a Hall of Fame
Speaker 3: co at the end of the day, say what you
Speaker 3: want about is on the court coaching nowaday is his
Speaker 3: name is near the bottom of the SEC is crazy.
Speaker 4: That's how good this league is.
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, but so much more was expected given the
Speaker 2: talent that he brought in. No question, they look and
Speaker 2: I do believe, well, it's obvious that when and this
Speaker 2: is not a knock on the kid, but when Boogie
Speaker 2: Flann went down, it forced him.
Speaker 3: You were talking about more modern, you were talking about balance,
Speaker 3: and it caused them to spread things out a little
Speaker 3: more and made them a better team, which I guess
Speaker 3: you can look at Calipari and said, now, why is
Speaker 3: this happening? Credit to Caliperi for you know, their their
Speaker 3: success of late.
Speaker 4: A m game.
Speaker 3: Notwithstanding and by the way I gave him credit, he
Speaker 3: kind of lashed out a little bit. Did you see
Speaker 3: the sound bad him? Oh after the game? Yeah, whereas
Speaker 3: it's not okay? Yeah, yeah, good for him. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 4: That's what fans were hoping to see.
Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 2: There's just about to say, why didn't you hear that
Speaker 2: here at Kentucky? But anyhow, Yeah, Boogie Flann goes down
Speaker 2: and everybody.
Speaker 3: Else, yeah, pitches in. I think Wagner's playing better. As
Speaker 3: I've said on the show a million times, I've seen
Speaker 3: Nellie Davis play a ton because my brother goes to
Speaker 3: FAU and just looked lost those first two three months.
Speaker 3: And Boogie goes down and again you don't want to
Speaker 3: see that happen, but kind of lets him get back
Speaker 3: into that shot volume ron. I think people deferred to him, yeah,
Speaker 3: because he's so good right with Yeah, Janelle, just he's
Speaker 3: a guy who needs the ball in his hands. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and he wasn't getting it simply enough, and Boogie being
Speaker 3: the league guard. But now that he has the ball
Speaker 3: and the Sands boars making things happen. So you know
Speaker 3: they're on the bubble for sure. They have to go
Speaker 3: to Auburn unfortunately for them on Wednesday.
Speaker 2: But it's an interesting lesson and complimentary players complimentary with
Speaker 2: an e yes, guys who are good at playing around
Speaker 2: other guys who are better than they are and there's
Speaker 2: a skill to that, there's an art to putting a
Speaker 2: team together like that. But that's Arkansas was like an
Speaker 2: all star team, right, you know, just like Kentucky games
Speaker 2: in terms of recruiting, and that's what how do you
Speaker 2: hand the ball to one guy and say you're going
Speaker 2: to carry the load. Even if Caliberry.
Speaker 3: Didn't intentionally do do that, that's what was happening.
Speaker 4: Yep.
Speaker 3: Yeah, And that's part of the reason on the other end,
Speaker 3: specimen you're seeing Kentucky struggle with right now, because they
Speaker 3: they were not a team they were built to be
Speaker 3: a team. They weren't didn't necessarily have that goat to
Speaker 3: guy that you know in the mott. It was going
Speaker 3: to go through the mott, but it wasn't necessarily going
Speaker 3: to be in his hands at the end of the guard.
Speaker 3: That's a difference. He was going to be your quarterback. Yeah,
Speaker 3: and unfortunately he goes down, and then Jackson, your backup quarterback,
Speaker 3: goes down, and well, I guess Kirk Krees, so your
Speaker 3: backup quarterback goes down. Then Jackson Robinson moves from wide
Speaker 3: receiver to quarterbacks and goes down. And now you know Kobe,
Speaker 3: like Kobe Brayd a really tough game and back game.
Speaker 3: We've talked about it like this team is kind of
Speaker 3: goes how he goes. That's how it's been all year.
Speaker 3: But you should have seen Texas was all. He just
Speaker 3: couldn't get free. And that's that's the things that hurt
Speaker 3: most when you're so shorthanded as they can key in on.
Speaker 3: They were like, we're not gonna let him beat us.
Speaker 3: Right when the Mott and Jaggarn are out there. They
Speaker 3: can't do that. You've got to kind of just put
Speaker 3: a body and hope for the best on Kobe. But
Speaker 3: now they can send two or three because they're not
Speaker 3: as scared of some of the other guys in the floor.
Speaker 2: We'll take a break, come back and talk more Kentucky basketball,
Speaker 2: and we'll talk Blues Brothers as well. Here on the
Speaker 2: state Wide BBI Welcome Back, final segment of the State
Speaker 2: Wide BBI. Dick Gabriel Aren Gershan of the cast Pause coming.
Speaker 3: Up Kentucky Vanderbilt Wednesday night. You hear the game on
Speaker 3: most of these same stations. I got to think that
Speaker 3: go big Blues Brothers will be there, am I right?
Speaker 10: I think Brother Jake gives a little worried about being
Speaker 10: on work release in the weather for Wednesday night.
Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, it is.
Speaker 10: We plan on being there before we get into the
Speaker 10: next segment here and what we want to talk about.
Speaker 10: Brother Jake text me after the Texas game Saturday night
Speaker 10: and he said, if you want to play in Texas,
Speaker 10: you got to have a point guard in the game.
Speaker 3: Very good, very good. I like that? Is that?
Speaker 6: Uh?
Speaker 3: I'm trying to remember the band, the original group Alabama,
Speaker 3: That's what I thought.
Speaker 4: Yeah, all right, all right.
Speaker 2: We bring this up because the Go Big Blues Brothers
Speaker 2: have become thanks to Arman Bo and his brother, brother Jake,
Speaker 2: both plays ellwood a real fun part of Kentucky basketball.
Speaker 2: I guess you could call it a tradition, uh, if
Speaker 2: you want to put it that way. At least in
Speaker 2: terms of social media, you guys do a great job
Speaker 2: of popping up and making sure people know you're there.
Speaker 2: And you know, I know you used to love to
Speaker 2: pose with Joby Hall. You got Yeah, I think you
Speaker 2: all got a picture with Pope, didn't you.
Speaker 10: We did at the New Area event at the Kentucky
Speaker 10: Horse Park in June, Okay, and then at Reperna at
Speaker 10: the and we talked about this a couple of weeks
Speaker 10: ago Arena during the press conference.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yeah, who else? Who are some of the
Speaker 2: more famous figures with whom you've posed.
Speaker 10: Well, Joe b Mark, Pope, We're still working on Patino,
Speaker 10: Larry Stamper, who's always at the gas and Larry Stamper
Speaker 10: is so great. He comes down, he talks to us,
Speaker 10: and it's not a quick thirty seconds, Hey, how you
Speaker 10: guys doing.
Speaker 4: It's ten minutes.
Speaker 10: He's talking to us, and it's about Kentucky basketball, and
Speaker 10: it's about making banana pudding, it's about fishing, and he's
Speaker 10: just so great.
Speaker 4: To be around.
Speaker 10: The seventy five reunion, I was about to ask, yeah,
Speaker 10: Marion Haskins nice, he was awesome.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he was.
Speaker 4: Jerry Hale was awesome, great, Bob Guyet.
Speaker 10: We had to chase guy It down a little bit
Speaker 10: and I was apologizing to his wife. I'm like, I'm sorry,
Speaker 10: we're keeping you all here, but you know, this is
Speaker 10: kind of a once in a lifetime for us to
Speaker 10: get a couple of autographs, get a picture, get you
Speaker 10: in the band and everything. They're just laughing, having a
Speaker 10: great time with it. That made me feel really good.
Speaker 6: Good.
Speaker 10: Going back to Larry Stamper, his son came up to
Speaker 10: me a few weeks ago and he looked at me
Speaker 10: and he said, I just want to thank you guys
Speaker 10: for what you all do and being a part of
Speaker 10: my dad's I don't know legacy, leg just always including
Speaker 10: him and everything you all do. And I had to
Speaker 10: kind of stop a little bit and be like, wow, damn.
Speaker 2: This, how long have you guys been the Blues brother
Speaker 2: twenty nineteen?
Speaker 4: That what seems longer.
Speaker 10: Part of that is we took the COVID year off
Speaker 10: reasons and everything, and then came back that following year. Yeah,
Speaker 10: I guess when you're there for every game, it does
Speaker 10: seem like we've just been there forever exactly.
Speaker 2: You're part of the wallpaper over the weekend. Of course,
Speaker 2: Saturday Live celebrated his fiftieth anniversary, and I wasn't aware
Speaker 2: of this, and Bo and I were talking before.
Speaker 3: Were you an SNL fan growing up? Aaron a little bit,
Speaker 3: especially when you know the sport Peyton Manning Eli Manning
Speaker 3: hosted and things like that. Peyton wanted a great oh god,
Speaker 3: great hosts, not just athlete you host and his United
Speaker 3: Way Football Game of the Kids is one of the greatest,
Speaker 3: one of the greatest film clips by SNL that has
Speaker 3: ever been created. And there was a lot of talk
Speaker 3: about how those came together and everything, and I paid
Speaker 3: us on interview with him, he said, you know, he
Speaker 3: was kind of hesitant about it. It was a nerf football yes,
Speaker 3: about throwing it at kids because he knew it would
Speaker 3: look bad or whatever. And he you know, and this
Speaker 3: one kid, the one kid that he hit.
Speaker 2: The guy's dad was like, oh, it was great, you know,
Speaker 2: and other parents are like, hey, throw in my kid.
Speaker 4: I've been wanting to do this for years.
Speaker 2: But what I really liked I set up is I
Speaker 2: didn't know the history and bo you might have known
Speaker 2: this of the Blues Brothers and why they got on
Speaker 2: the show, and it's it's in the special that they aired.
Speaker 2: But the guy who was so supportive of the Blue
Speaker 2: because Bluehi loved music and you know, there's a long
Speaker 2: story there, but bottom line is they had put that
Speaker 2: together the Blues Butter and Howard Shore, who was the
Speaker 2: original music director, loved so they get excited and they
Speaker 2: take it too. I guess they put something on video
Speaker 2: or on film, took it to Lauren Michael as a
Speaker 2: producer and he said, I don't see anything funny about this, and.
Speaker 3: They killed it. The Blues Brothers were done. You might
Speaker 3: not have been.
Speaker 2: A go big Blues Brothers except for the fact that
Speaker 2: on show day late somebody comes up and says, the
Speaker 2: show's three minutes light. I mean, and when you're producing
Speaker 2: a live show, three minutes is an eternity. And Howard
Speaker 2: Shore said, let's use the Blues Brothers. And that's why
Speaker 2: they plugged them in. And I don't remember if it
Speaker 2: was at the end of the show or somewhere, because
Speaker 2: they had to strategically place acts and things like that
Speaker 2: based on costume changes and commercial breaks and stuff like that.
Speaker 3: But that's how they originally got in and it just exploded.
Speaker 4: It just took off.
Speaker 10: It was earlier in that episode, kind of on the
Speaker 10: front end, not the open or anything like that. It
Speaker 10: was I think two sketches in is where the Blues
Speaker 10: Brothers made their debut doing Hay Bartender, and you had
Speaker 10: Paul Schaeffer as Don Kirshner introducing the Blues Brothers. I
Speaker 10: went back, yeah, and I believe he referred to him
Speaker 10: as Jolliet Jake and his Silent Brother Elwood. Yes, and
Speaker 10: I just thought that was great to see Paul Shaffer
Speaker 10: like that. But he was in a lot of stuff
Speaker 10: now and he was musical director of the Blues Brothers band,
Speaker 10: So there's that connection there. But if you go back
Speaker 10: to the Killer Bees, yes, and you're right, this is
Speaker 10: where it starts. Yes, if you go back to the
Speaker 10: Killer Bees and go back to that first episode where
Speaker 10: they did be hospital and by the.
Speaker 3: Way, Belushi hated being a bee, hated a costume.
Speaker 10: And I went back and watched that today, and when
Speaker 10: you understand the folklore behind it and the fact that
Speaker 10: NBC hated the Bees, they told Lauren Michaels drop the Bees,
Speaker 10: and he wouldn't do it, just being Lauren Michaels.
Speaker 4: I think you well.
Speaker 10: January seventeenth, nineteen seventy six, they brought the Killer Bees
Speaker 10: in doing Slim Harpo's classic I'm a King Be, which
Speaker 10: is great, and they're dressed up buzzing baby. John Belushi's
Speaker 10: up there doing John Belushi things and doing backflips and everything.
Speaker 10: So it kind of morphed out of I'm a King
Speaker 10: Bee into the Blues Brothers and going back to Belushi
Speaker 10: and the fact that he was in the heavy metal,
Speaker 10: he was in the Black Sabbath and Pulsapplin and all that,
Speaker 10: and Akroy had to kind of rein them in and say, hey,
Speaker 10: take a listen to this, And there was a band
Speaker 10: out of it was a huge blues a great student
Speaker 10: of rhythm and blues and soul music, and that's where
Speaker 10: I get it from. They were three minutes short and
Speaker 10: they had to get him in there, and they were
Speaker 10: also used as kind of a warm up act. I
Speaker 10: didn't realize this until watching the documentaries on SNL, which
Speaker 10: I think has been great. They do a dress rehearsal
Speaker 10: at ten o'clock and then they start cutting things and
Speaker 10: making adjustments, and I thought it was fascinating in all
Speaker 10: the documentaries that I've seen of SNL. And then they
Speaker 10: threw the Blues Brothers in and then Akrooyd wrote this
Speaker 10: like I don't know, it was like thirty thousand pages
Speaker 10: of the Blues Brother's story, and John Landa said, hey,
Speaker 10: we got to get this down before they did the movie,
Speaker 10: and everything.
Speaker 3: From an act that was cut that was forgotten about,
Speaker 3: over and done with to one of the great comedies
Speaker 3: of all time.
Speaker 10: And for my generation, the first time seeing the Blues
Speaker 10: Brothers on WG in Chicago and watching that movie. Yeah,
Speaker 10: that's how I got in blues. In rhythm and blues,
Speaker 10: I mean dand had all these great soul records, but
Speaker 10: just to really get down to the blues, it was
Speaker 10: Dan Akroyd, John Belucchi.
Speaker 2: Well, and it's so great now when you see the
Speaker 2: video clip of soul Man from SNL and the guys
Speaker 2: behind him, the band behind them, you know, Matt Guitar,
Speaker 2: Murphy and then all those guys, mister wonderful.
Speaker 10: Mister wonderful he was wrestler, mister fabulous.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: Uh, just fantastic. You know, the same guys. They're the
Speaker 2: guys dancing on the diner counter with Theretha Franklin singing
Speaker 2: Ray Charles songs.
Speaker 10: Yeah, and I mean Steve Cropper ducked down those guys
Speaker 10: that were in Memphis playing on Green Onions and all
Speaker 10: those great soul tracks. They went right to the core
Speaker 10: and nailed it.
Speaker 3: That's right. The backstory is always a little bit better
Speaker 3: than what you see up front.
Speaker 2: Well, that's going to do it for now. We thank
Speaker 2: you for being with us. Aaron will be uh a
Speaker 2: courtside for there, at least.
Speaker 4: Up in the Raptors with the rest of us.
Speaker 3: That's right.
Speaker 2: And then we'll come back next week and talk more
Speaker 2: Kentucky basketball. We'll get into baseball and football as well.
Speaker 2: I'll do it for now. That's a good night from Lexington.