Speaker 1: You're listening to Sorry for Asking.
Speaker 2: Sorry for Asking.
Speaker 3: I'm Cole Connor and I'm Adam Ramsey. This is where
Speaker 3: we talk, shop, ask questions.
Speaker 2: Tell stories, and laugh some laughs about being creators as well.
Speaker 1: As consumers of adult content.
Speaker 3: We love watching too.
Speaker 2: We certainly do. We also discuss the impact adult films
Speaker 2: have had on us, on our guests, and on the
Speaker 2: LGBTQ community.
Speaker 1: So strap on and strap.
Speaker 2: In and here we go. Welcome back to Sorry for Asking.
Speaker 2: I'm Cole Connor.
Speaker 4: Hi everybody, I'm Adam Ramsey, and we are here.
Speaker 3: We're doing it. This is it.
Speaker 4: It's a very special, very special episode, our final.
Speaker 3: This is our finale. We just ripped the band aid off.
Speaker 4: We are here to discuss what these four years have
Speaker 4: been like. There's no real reason. It's just like I
Speaker 4: think like you and I are like busy boys.
Speaker 2: It's just like we've it's gotten a little hard to.
Speaker 3: Like book.
Speaker 2: People that were interested in I feel you know what.
Speaker 4: This is how I'm gonna say, we fulfilled our mission
Speaker 4: statement with this, with this project, which which was really
Speaker 4: to destigmatize adult content creation, humanized porn creators and not
Speaker 4: be afraid to talk about the nitty gritty of like
Speaker 4: what it is to be an adult content creator in
Speaker 4: the queer you know, Twitter sphere and Internet sphere. And
Speaker 4: also just to like kind of explore our friendship through
Speaker 4: this like avenue, because I want to underline that, like
Speaker 4: this was born of our fucking long ass beautiful friendship.
Speaker 4: I know, I kind of scoured through our Instagram history
Speaker 4: before this. It's like we've been from for a really
Speaker 4: long time, I know, And it was that first summer.
Speaker 4: I could not have done this without you. And this
Speaker 4: is something so like we're gonna get into. I know
Speaker 4: you were going to talk about it. That's absolutely true.
Speaker 4: It's like I couldn't. There was no way. Yeah, So
Speaker 4: first I want to start by saying, first of all,
Speaker 4: how are you how today is? Actually Halloween is a
Speaker 4: very witchy day. I came into this with like great intentions.
Speaker 4: I actually started a new kombucha brew and I brought
Speaker 4: you a bottle of the most recent it's guava pomegranate.
Speaker 2: I need to put it in the fridge right now.
Speaker 3: It'll be okay unless you can taste it, or you
Speaker 3: can taste it later.
Speaker 2: I'll taste it and then you can taste what I
Speaker 2: brought for us.
Speaker 3: Okay, perfect. Yeah, I didn't know. I was very careful.
Speaker 2: That is a kombucha. Yeah, it's one of the things
Speaker 2: I remember, like first seeing in your in your apartment
Speaker 2: when I met you, I was like there are all
Speaker 2: these like jars, Like I'm like what is that? And
Speaker 2: You're like, oh, that's the mother Like I was like, oh,
Speaker 2: people make their own kombucha. I didn't know that.
Speaker 3: That's what I do. It's one of my things.
Speaker 2: Well I thought we would, yes, just kind of what
Speaker 2: is this, have a little toast. I don't have any cups.
Speaker 3: So we're going to do it from the bottle. Yeah,
Speaker 3: trust baby like a real man. Oh my god, thank you.
Speaker 3: If you want to chase, I like to feel the burn.
Speaker 2: I do to Speaking of burns, I just got tested
Speaker 2: yesterday and I'm all clear.
Speaker 3: Oh thank goodness. I got tested a couple of weeks
Speaker 3: ago and I've been filming.
Speaker 2: Good for you.
Speaker 3: I actually filmed a studio scene recently with Randy Blue.
Speaker 3: I fill that I filmed with Roman Todd, which I
Speaker 3: just I for some reason, like you.
Speaker 2: Never know, we I share a grabby with him for the.
Speaker 3: Best duo what yeah, for what scene?
Speaker 2: It was Falcon For the fans, it was like a
Speaker 2: live one and okay, we were interacting with people could
Speaker 2: log in and watch the filming of it and like
Speaker 2: comment the whole time and everything. And Steve Cruz was
Speaker 2: kind of like when we would take a break, he'd
Speaker 2: kind of explain what was going on and yeah, it
Speaker 2: was cool, really hot.
Speaker 3: Yeah it was.
Speaker 2: We filmed that and Steve was like, definitely a best.
Speaker 3: Duo awesome and it was.
Speaker 4: It was quite literally literally one, oh yeah, now that
Speaker 4: I have a you know, is it a raging Stallion Falcon?
Speaker 4: Oh okay, yeah, yea.
Speaker 3: Maybe.
Speaker 2: Other scenes were like Caid Maddix, Okay, how is Randy Blue?
Speaker 3: It was good. It was with r. J.
Speaker 4: Sebastian, who is the Cocky Boys director who I'm very
Speaker 4: familiar with, and he reached out to me and he
Speaker 4: was like, hey, are you available to do this scene
Speaker 4: with Roman Todd?
Speaker 3: And I was like the.
Speaker 4: Roman Todd and he was so nice. We got along
Speaker 4: really well and it was a very very hot scene.
Speaker 4: I bottomed, which like doesn't happen as often on camera
Speaker 4: these dings.
Speaker 2: You know, if you're gonna get, if you're gonna work
Speaker 2: with Roman Todd. The bottom at least flip.
Speaker 4: Well, I assumed we were gonna flip, but he he
Speaker 4: said he preferred to just bottom my scene.
Speaker 3: I was like, okay, it.
Speaker 2: Was a flip scene. Nice, but I think I was
Speaker 2: just supposed about him. But I think he wanted it.
Speaker 3: He wanted it, Okay, Okay, I mean I can't blame it.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm going on a content trip you are
Speaker 2: next week.
Speaker 4: Well, this is kind of part of part of what
Speaker 4: I wanted to ask as well during you know, this episode,
Speaker 4: was like, how is your releasetionship to filming lately?
Speaker 2: Anyway, I'm not gonna do studio anymore.
Speaker 3: Okay, that's for sure.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I've decided there is no ethical making of studio
Speaker 2: gay porn right now.
Speaker 3: WHOA Okay, they don't.
Speaker 2: Want to pay us enough.
Speaker 3: Okay.
Speaker 2: I don't know all this stuff I'm going through, and
Speaker 2: this like intimacy coordinating course is just kind of like
Speaker 2: I just went through like the whole porn and media
Speaker 2: section of it, and I'm like it it literally feels
Speaker 2: like the last year or two that I've been in
Speaker 2: a studio scene that the last person considered is the performer,
Speaker 2: And I'm like, don't put us in a shitty hotel
Speaker 2: with some with like sharing a room or whatever like
Speaker 2: that never used to happen when I was an exclusive right,
Speaker 2: and it was just like everything is so not The
Speaker 2: industry is hurting because they don't want to make the
Speaker 2: performers like elevated. They don't want to make them more famous,
Speaker 2: or like they don't want to give them that like.
Speaker 3: Well, you know, I mean to play the other side
Speaker 3: a little bit. I guess you know, the market's changed,
Speaker 3: like you know, the studios have to adapt to what
Speaker 3: is bringing in revenue.
Speaker 2: It doesn't mean people aren't making money. It doesn't mean
Speaker 2: that porn isn't still pulling in a lot of.
Speaker 4: Money, maybe not be pulling in the money that it
Speaker 4: used to, which is why maybe I mean, I don't
Speaker 4: think performers should be mistreated, but I understand maybe, like
Speaker 4: you know, cutting certain corners. For example, like for this
Speaker 4: Randy Blue scene, I got paid fairly well, but it
Speaker 4: was also a local scene and it was quick. There
Speaker 4: was no money that went into production.
Speaker 2: I do feel like the scenes are quicker, but it's
Speaker 2: all so that's like that's their answer to it to
Speaker 2: like money going down is to pump out more shitty content,
Speaker 2: like like there's every time they're shooting two three things
Speaker 2: a day. It used to be like, well you shot
Speaker 2: one scene in a day, right, and yeah took there
Speaker 2: was more effort put into it, and so then you
Speaker 2: weren't just treated like like, let's just get through this
Speaker 2: and you get the fuck out.
Speaker 3: You know what it is?
Speaker 4: I think I think you came into the industry at
Speaker 4: a very interesting point and you.
Speaker 3: We're gonna call you the last porn star on Earth.
Speaker 3: There are no there are no there are no porn
Speaker 3: stars anymore.
Speaker 2: Well Connor killed porn.
Speaker 3: You know what I'm saying though, right, Like, like you,
Speaker 3: you rose to stardom very quickly, and and because of
Speaker 3: the saturation of the market now there are so many
Speaker 3: performers that will do anything for any.
Speaker 2: Amount of money because they want to you.
Speaker 3: Or they just want money. They just want money, they
Speaker 3: just want to get paid.
Speaker 4: You were treated very quickly, like because you're so good
Speaker 4: at this, you were a natural from the beginning. And
Speaker 4: I feel like the industry changed as a result of
Speaker 4: just what is available now. I listen to this podcast
Speaker 4: recently with somebody who I'm a big I've been a
Speaker 4: friend of for a long time and a big fan
Speaker 4: of his words. His name is Leo Herrera. Look him
Speaker 4: up everybody Instagram her Era images. He's like a voice
Speaker 4: of our generation, big time. And he talks about AI
Speaker 4: as like kind of like, I don't know if you're
Speaker 4: aware of what AI is doing to the world of
Speaker 4: access to sex on the Internet, but it's changed a lot.
Speaker 3: You can.
Speaker 4: He tells a story of how he was able to
Speaker 4: literally look up a picture of his old gym teacher
Speaker 4: on Facebook, deage him, and then put him in an
Speaker 4: AI porn scenario with himself to watch the fantasy he
Speaker 4: had of his gym teacher fucking him as a kid.
Speaker 2: Well, that's I mean, like that with anybody, not just
Speaker 2: like people who are consensual.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I know that's the thing. Well that's you.
Speaker 4: Can make a you can make a video of yourself
Speaker 4: getting sucked, like Chris Hemsworth if you wanted to, like
Speaker 4: this is what we are, how.
Speaker 2: Real would it actually looks? It won't look The penises
Speaker 2: don't look really, none of them nothing. I don't look
Speaker 2: like the guys who fake having sex on Twitter where
Speaker 2: you can't say anything and you just see their faces
Speaker 2: and one guy behind him just like.
Speaker 3: Literally my least favorite.
Speaker 2: So, yeah, these guys in Bali, those guys what in Bali?
Speaker 3: I don't know who you're talking about. Is that what
Speaker 3: they say?
Speaker 4: Oh, there are these guys in Miami too, And in fact,
Speaker 4: I mean, like I mean, I'm gonna call it. I'm
Speaker 4: gonna call it out. There's a there's a video of
Speaker 4: Roman Todd getting deep peed and I asked him when
Speaker 4: I got to the set. I was just like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, that scene of you getting dpeed by these
Speaker 4: two guys.
Speaker 3: That's intense. And I was like, was it real?
Speaker 2: And he was like, I'm I mean, that's the thing.
Speaker 2: I don't want to watch something I know isn't real.
Speaker 3: But a lot of people don't know it's real or
Speaker 3: not real. Sorry.
Speaker 2: I think younger people can tell what is AI and what.
Speaker 4: Is Maybe the whole point I'm saying is we are
Speaker 4: in new territories. These are these are fresh waters of
Speaker 4: like what the future looks like in terms of what
Speaker 4: is excess to people, in terms of like what it
Speaker 4: takes to get off.
Speaker 2: However, AI companies I know are like making deals and
Speaker 2: contracts with like sag Aftra to make sure that performers
Speaker 2: get sign off on their on like their final performance
Speaker 2: if it's at tit tweaked in any way by AI,
Speaker 2: like so that they don't have to do a reshoot,
Speaker 2: or like when you watch when you watch a show
Speaker 2: and it is originally filmed in a different language, so
Speaker 2: like you know how it takes you out of it
Speaker 2: if it is dubbed over in English and you're trying
Speaker 2: to like like Squid Game, You're trying to watch that
Speaker 2: dubbed over in English, but the mouths don't match. So
Speaker 2: AI can fix that without without like right that much effort.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I am not. I have not dove into the
Speaker 3: world of AI the way a lot of my peers have,
Speaker 3: and I'm not sure if or when I ever will.
Speaker 2: I just think because porn isn't an organized union, there's
Speaker 2: no way to.
Speaker 3: Make it ethical.
Speaker 2: It's like not, it's wild West, and like people don't
Speaker 2: have to fult, they don't have to feed you, should
Speaker 2: they Yeah, sure, if you're there for a scene, do
Speaker 2: they forget? Sometimes yeah? And then you're like and then
Speaker 2: you speak up and you're like, oh, hey, I'm going
Speaker 2: to send you a receipt for my meal when I
Speaker 2: get back to my place. Yeah, because you didn't feed
Speaker 2: me today. And either they're like oh yeah, cool, no problem,
Speaker 2: or they're like okay, yeah and give you attitude because like, sorry,
Speaker 2: I wanted to eat after I didn't eat all day
Speaker 2: for you.
Speaker 4: So to bring it back to how we started, So
Speaker 4: you're saying you are still making content of your own
Speaker 4: studios out of the question for you.
Speaker 2: Yeah. So the content house that I'm going to in
Speaker 2: Canada organized by Bulboss Josh, like you can't wait to
Speaker 2: get those panis. It's a buy house. Okay, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: do more gay stuff, but there is gonna be a
Speaker 2: bye orgy, which I've never been in before.
Speaker 3: You're gonna do that first.
Speaker 2: I'm a by orgie version.
Speaker 3: Do you know how many men versus how many women
Speaker 3: there will be in the scene.
Speaker 2: I know that there are, and I didn't. I agreed
Speaker 2: to this before I knew how many people sixteen are
Speaker 2: going to be at that place. Okay, maybe seventeen because
Speaker 2: I think there's now a local added. Yeah, that's what
Speaker 2: I got tested for yesterday. Now we have to be
Speaker 2: careful this week. Like buy performers don't fuck around. Of course,
Speaker 2: if you give them something, they're gonna come for you. Yeah, right,
Speaker 2: there's not like oops I made an oopsie. It's like, yeah,
Speaker 2: you tried to give me something.
Speaker 3: Yikes.
Speaker 4: Well you, But you're also on this kind of this
Speaker 4: journey with your intimacy coordinator thing, like, are you feeling
Speaker 4: like that is going to be an exit from.
Speaker 3: The adult content world?
Speaker 4: Are you still going to always kind of have that
Speaker 4: in the background, like as like passive income I have.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean my only fans.
Speaker 3: Is still doing still doing what it needs to be doing.
Speaker 2: Okay, Yeah, it's enough where I wouldn't want to get
Speaker 2: rid of it, and I don't really see I don't know.
Speaker 2: Maybe I don't know if I'll need to at some point,
Speaker 2: but like for I don't know why I am. I'm
Speaker 2: sure that a reason might pop up that I need
Speaker 2: to take it down. Yeah, but not for a while.
Speaker 2: I'm not. I'm still not while I'm getting certified in
Speaker 2: the process.
Speaker 4: You can, I mean, the thing is, you can always
Speaker 4: leave your content sites up even if you're not making content.
Speaker 4: That said, do you ever see yourself stopping putting the
Speaker 4: intention and effort into making your own content?
Speaker 3: Mm? I don't know.
Speaker 2: It would be really sad to not have a gang
Speaker 2: bang every day every year for my birthday. You know that.
Speaker 2: I thought about that like a couple of months ago,
Speaker 2: and I oh, like I thought about it in PV
Speaker 2: doing my birthday gang Bang there, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I hope this isn't the last birthday gang bang I ever.
Speaker 4: Have to be honest, there is. I mean, there are
Speaker 4: ways that you can do this. I think a lot
Speaker 4: of people have figured out that they can do their
Speaker 4: own business model on their content sites. Even if you
Speaker 4: weren't making content all year except for your birthday gang bang.
Speaker 4: You could do like a really low premium for your
Speaker 4: for content subscription so people can look at your back catalog,
Speaker 4: and then every year, YEA, do like an event release
Speaker 4: where you're like, you know, our yearly gang bang is here.
Speaker 4: Pay this amount to see this exclusive video, and then
Speaker 4: every year you make a fucking shit ton of money
Speaker 4: because people want to see your birthday gang bang. I'm
Speaker 4: look at me just developing for you for free. I
Speaker 4: don't require a cut of anything you make, but you
Speaker 4: can have that one if that's how it goes.
Speaker 2: You know, it's a discussion. Can hardly be invoice.
Speaker 4: Hardly hardly because I'm not filming some people only like
Speaker 4: put one thing out a month exactly. I mean, like
Speaker 4: I was just gonna say, like, I do not film
Speaker 4: the way I used to, and I'm trying to get
Speaker 4: back into it, but I just haven't been as inspired
Speaker 4: as I was before.
Speaker 3: And I think that's a big part of why maybe you.
Speaker 4: And I are feeling like we're transitioning out of out
Speaker 4: of this as well as like we have we've done it,
Speaker 4: We've we've done what we need to do.
Speaker 3: In this industry will always be we got our give.
Speaker 4: Yes, We'll always be a part of it, and I
Speaker 4: always want to be. I always want to be attached
Speaker 4: to the industry in some way and I always will be.
Speaker 4: And Adam Ramsey will always be like a figure for me.
Speaker 4: It'll always be a tent pole of like how I'm.
Speaker 2: Just gonna shoot him in the head.
Speaker 3: And I don't think so.
Speaker 4: I mean, I like, Adam Ramsey is the name I
Speaker 4: use on my party flyers, because like I think, like
Speaker 4: a lot is what he is more famous.
Speaker 3: I am known.
Speaker 4: I am known to the world as Adam Ramsey. I
Speaker 4: am known locally as Arham And I think that's why
Speaker 4: a lot of times, you know, even though my flyers, say,
Speaker 4: Adam Ramsey, I introduced myself as Arm to everybody when.
Speaker 3: I meet them.
Speaker 2: That's why it's good for them to be very close
Speaker 2: Adam and your real name, and they should be different exactly.
Speaker 2: One letter, like it sounds familiar, doesn't it. It's trainer Cole.
Speaker 2: Now I'm thinking of changing that one. Are you I'm
Speaker 2: starting to revive I'm like, just this week, I'm starting
Speaker 2: to put stories up on that one again.
Speaker 4: I mean I noticed, I know that that's kind of
Speaker 4: how I did the deep dive. And I saw that
Speaker 4: you posted something recently.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but I think I'm going to change it to
Speaker 2: like I I see Joel, I s oh, then you
Speaker 2: know something like that, something like that.
Speaker 4: I don't know, Yeah, you figure it out, but like
Speaker 4: I but I but I looked it up and and like,
Speaker 4: you know, it was just like so sweet to see that,
Speaker 4: like back when you and I first met, back in
Speaker 4: the days of Babels, Like I was just like, oh
Speaker 4: my god, I forgot you had this year long relationship
Speaker 4: with this person that I was like kind of like we.
Speaker 2: Called each other babels. It was really annoying to everybody else.
Speaker 3: I loved it.
Speaker 2: You loved it. My roommate at the time was like,
Speaker 2: you guys have to chill out because it was like Babels, Bables, Babels, babels.
Speaker 2: Everything it was.
Speaker 3: Babels.
Speaker 2: The funny thing was one time we had of four
Speaker 2: a way with another couple and all of them.
Speaker 3: Are named Chris. Really Chris, Chris and Chris. Wow, I
Speaker 3: mean that sounds fun. Wait now that you mentioned it,
Speaker 3: I know that Chris is you're talking about. There were
Speaker 3: a couple of times I was talking about I've had
Speaker 3: a four way with them before too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well, I like forgot about that. I saw him
Speaker 2: like a month ago out somewhere and I knew him,
Speaker 2: and I was like, I didn't put it together though,
Speaker 2: and I was like, oh that's Chris now. Yeah.
Speaker 3: Do you love? Do you love?
Speaker 4: Like there are sometimes when I go to the gym
Speaker 4: where I see somebody who like, we hooked up once
Speaker 4: or twice in the past, and they don't even like
Speaker 4: look at me anymore, Like when we're at the gym
Speaker 4: and I'm.
Speaker 3: Like, bitch, you've been inside it.
Speaker 2: It's hard to remember it is. I'm like, sometimes you're
Speaker 2: like it seems like we have active a long time,
Speaker 2: or maybe I just follow them on Instagram.
Speaker 4: Maybe I just maybe their DNA has been all up
Speaker 4: in my business.
Speaker 2: Maybe I have eaten their DNA.
Speaker 3: Likely, yes, likely, Like the likelihood is high. I know.
Speaker 2: People like just like, how many people don't want to
Speaker 2: like come in your mouth?
Speaker 3: Oh?
Speaker 2: It's upsetting.
Speaker 3: I know.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry. You know, yes, people want to breed you.
Speaker 2: I'm like, I can't see that. No, where's the proof.
Speaker 2: I need to taste it? Please put it in my mouth?
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Speaker 2: Welcome back. We're back to our final episode. I hope
Speaker 2: you guys aren't too sad. No, you're you're really sad.
Speaker 2: You're on this journey with us.
Speaker 3: Sorry for asking, as we say, I took some notes,
Speaker 3: I did some inventory this morning because I wanted to
Speaker 3: go through. I don't know if you listen. Do you
Speaker 3: listen to the episodes?
Speaker 2: You know how like you always hear that, like actors
Speaker 2: don't watch themselves.
Speaker 3: You're that I'm there right now. I'm the opposite.
Speaker 2: I I can't. Like sometimes I listen, but you have
Speaker 2: to edit it, so like you you've always edited, so
Speaker 2: you have to yes.
Speaker 3: But I also sometimes I like ask.
Speaker 4: Some times I'll listen at the gym or like when
Speaker 4: I'm driving f I long drive, because like I like to.
Speaker 3: Kind of hear how we do it, how we are
Speaker 3: and just so everybody knows.
Speaker 4: Like a big part of my thing with this podcast
Speaker 4: has been I have a bachelor's in communication and broadcast journalism.
Speaker 4: I have a master's in clinical psychology with an LGBT
Speaker 4: affirmative specialization. And I have this long term, long time
Speaker 4: background in making adult films. So I feel like this
Speaker 4: podcast was like a way to bring all those three
Speaker 4: things together. And it was something that I'd been like
Speaker 4: kicking around in my head for a long time.
Speaker 3: And then I remember.
Speaker 2: Then we were at hot Dog and I was like
Speaker 2: a podcast. It was hot Dog, and I was like,
Speaker 2: I want to do it with somebody that's like been
Speaker 2: doing it for a while, and I'm like the newcomer.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And I was like, I was like, that's weird
Speaker 4: because I've been saying that I want to do a podcast.
Speaker 4: But like, I am notoriously bad at getting things off
Speaker 4: the ground by myself. I'm really good at collaborating. I'm
Speaker 4: really good at helping. Really, you know, a lot of
Speaker 4: the best opportunities I've had has been like helping really
Speaker 4: creative friends of mine flesh their inspirations out, or collaborating
Speaker 4: with people who helped me be motivated to do something.
Speaker 3: So that's why when You and it was just like perfect.
Speaker 4: You and I were just like it was like, you know,
Speaker 4: the pandemic was just lifting and we were like, you know,
Speaker 4: maybe this is something we can try.
Speaker 3: And we first did our first season. We just did it,
Speaker 3: got the microphones and it happens.
Speaker 4: And our first guest, our first guest was h Allen Scott.
Speaker 3: Yes, so we had so this is our seventy ninth episode.
Speaker 2: Well, h h Allen Scott. He helped us. He kind
Speaker 2: of like told us some he gave us some pointers
Speaker 2: and stuff.
Speaker 4: Well, he is so h Allen Scott was our first
Speaker 4: guest on our third episode. He is a podcast aficionado,
Speaker 4: and he has completely he has completely taken off.
Speaker 2: He saw him interviewing Helen Mirren.
Speaker 4: He's interviewed and Helen Mirrin, Glenn Close and these are
Speaker 4: like he used to do these, like zoom interviews, like
Speaker 4: he zoom interviewed Tom Hanks. Now he's doing in person
Speaker 4: interviews with these big stars for Newsweek. So he is
Speaker 4: fucking killing it. And I'm so proud of him, and
Speaker 4: he's such a supporter of ours, and he is such
Speaker 4: a champion for us, and like he was like, absolutely,
Speaker 4: I'll be on your first guest, and he kind of
Speaker 4: gave us pointers on how to get it off the ground,
Speaker 4: and that first season we did all via zoom and
Speaker 4: then we were able to get the attention of Cyber
Speaker 4: Socket with Alexander Rodriguez, who gave us a platform with
Speaker 4: our second season. So in our seventy nine episodes, I
Speaker 4: have this, this is what I've written down. We had
Speaker 4: forty three out of our seven to nine episodes were guests.
Speaker 4: Thirty two of those guests were performers. Three of them
Speaker 4: were appreciators or adjacent like you know that would have
Speaker 4: been h Allen Scott, Drew Jroki, and Mario Diaz. We
Speaker 4: had one doctor, Doctor Gonzalez from pop Star and who
Speaker 4: came on twice.
Speaker 3: Two moms.
Speaker 4: For the moms, we had six people who were identified
Speaker 4: as producers or directors. We had five female identified people,
Speaker 4: two trans identified people.
Speaker 3: We had eight.
Speaker 4: People who were like kind of on the pen sexual spectrum.
Speaker 4: And out of these performers, eighteen of them were people
Speaker 4: I filmed with, twenty four of them were people you
Speaker 4: filmed with, fifteen of those were people we both filmed with,
Speaker 4: and five of them were people that neither of us.
Speaker 3: Had filmed with.
Speaker 2: Really, yeah, who were those?
Speaker 4: The ones neither of us filmed with were Victor Belmont Cooper,
Speaker 4: King Dwarf.
Speaker 3: I feel like Judus King.
Speaker 2: I think I put it out there for King Dwarf,
Speaker 2: but it never happened.
Speaker 3: Yeah, is that true?
Speaker 2: You know why? I feel like when I would see
Speaker 2: him and then I are like when I'd see him
Speaker 2: and be like, yeah, let's like, I don't know if
Speaker 2: I thought I was kidding or something, right, I'm like I.
Speaker 3: Would because King Dwarf is busy as hell, busy as hell.
Speaker 2: And I don't remember the busy Dwarf. He's a busy
Speaker 2: king and usually when people call themselves kings. He deserves it,
Speaker 2: but it works for him.
Speaker 4: Literal Tripod and then the other one Tripod to be
Speaker 4: a king.
Speaker 3: Yeah. Rule of Porn number sixteen.
Speaker 4: Oh, Jake Jacks was the other one that neither of
Speaker 4: us had filmed with who like he doesn't make films anymore.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I kind of felt like that was.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he's like he's like a bodybuilder and fitness trainer
Speaker 3: now and you know, business owner focused on that. Yeah.
Speaker 3: I would have though, who is your least favorite of
Speaker 3: our guest? Okay, that's a good question. Least face.
Speaker 4: I don't know if I had a least favorite. There
Speaker 4: are definitely some that I like. Who was who just
Speaker 4: like was a challenge. I did not care for Oh.
Speaker 3: My god, Davy Waby really, I know, Oh I loved
Speaker 3: that episode.
Speaker 2: I mean no, I was. I just was like, oh,
Speaker 2: I think this was also the time when I was
Speaker 2: kind of like realizing that like there isn't that's not
Speaker 2: ethical porn and it's posing as it oh interesting, So
Speaker 2: I kind of was like my bullshit meters were just.
Speaker 3: Like wow, fascinating. Okay, I was really happy with that episode.
Speaker 4: But I also have worked with him a lot he's
Speaker 4: one he's one of the directors you had not worked.
Speaker 3: With, whereas he as a producer, like I.
Speaker 4: Had worked with him a few times. I actually, I'm
Speaker 4: sure like you could hear it. I actually the two
Speaker 4: episodes in terms of our guests I like really struggled
Speaker 4: with were Daniel Gainesbrook and Michael Boston, just because I
Speaker 4: just really struggled with how do you connect with them
Speaker 4: as a guest.
Speaker 3: Eventually, I was really I was.
Speaker 4: Really happy with the Mike Michael Boston episode, like with
Speaker 4: how it turned out, but as we were filming it,
Speaker 4: I was struggling. Same with Daniel, Like Daniel's episode turned
Speaker 4: out fine, but as we were as we were taping it, I.
Speaker 3: Was just like really struggling to have an in.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know, I think you felt like he, I know,
Speaker 2: the conversation about like the girl he was dating, and
Speaker 2: I think you're.
Speaker 3: That's true, and I think you can hear it in
Speaker 3: the episode. I think he could probably tell.
Speaker 4: He may even listen to this episode, and you know,
Speaker 4: like I think he's a lovely person, and uh, but
Speaker 4: I just definitely you can tell in the episode. I'm
Speaker 4: just kind of calling him out on a lot of
Speaker 4: the things.
Speaker 3: He was saying, Well, they didn't last so they broke
Speaker 3: up like the week the week after, yeah or something. Yeah, yes,
Speaker 3: sorry Daniel, Sorry Daniel.
Speaker 2: I'm going to that content. I'm going to the Just
Speaker 2: for fans uh trip in December and December second through eighth.
Speaker 2: If you're a content creator, book it and come. I'll
Speaker 2: be sharing a room with Derek Cage.
Speaker 3: Oh cool.
Speaker 2: And that's literally the like one of the only reasons
Speaker 2: I haven't been like because I've been like, why did
Speaker 2: I agree it is? But yeah, I mean I need
Speaker 2: I need a beach, I need you. I need some
Speaker 2: Mexico in my life. I feel like I've been working
Speaker 2: really hard and I'm just gonna I'm like, I might
Speaker 2: not even like shoot that much content.
Speaker 4: You're just gonna have a vacation. Where is it happening?
Speaker 4: P okay?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no, that's next weekend. Oh okay, that's in Canada,
Speaker 2: in Edmonton. When's the PV trip December second through the eighth?
Speaker 3: Can I come?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have my flights. We should book our flights together.
Speaker 3: But I have never done ever.
Speaker 2: I'm like an ambassador.
Speaker 4: So they is that when they do their like awards
Speaker 4: and stuff too.
Speaker 2: No, it's just like what they do in Palm Springs too.
Speaker 3: But this is like a week okay, so.
Speaker 2: And there's like there's a few events I'm not I'm like,
Speaker 2: it's too early. It's been too early for me to
Speaker 2: really start thinking about it. But now people are starting
Speaker 2: to like reach out and try to plan collapse, and
Speaker 2: I'm still like, it's still too early for me. And
Speaker 2: because also when you get there, things change. And in
Speaker 2: PV in December it's it's I've been there for new
Speaker 2: years before when I was there when you weren't supposed
Speaker 2: to go to PV.
Speaker 4: Oh, of course, a little bit of shit for gays
Speaker 4: over COVID target Cole Connor. I mean, like, isn't it
Speaker 4: funny though that we started this when we were still
Speaker 4: kind of coming out of the COVID fog, like and
Speaker 4: like so much as.
Speaker 2: Chance it was just my only fans five year anniversary.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's right October last week.
Speaker 2: Yeah, like the fourteenth, well the fifteenth maybe.
Speaker 3: Five years for you it's been shit, dude.
Speaker 2: So also that is coming into play with this ending too.
Speaker 2: And yes, that what we probably started.
Speaker 3: We started at like the beginning of twenty twenty two.
Speaker 4: Okay, Yeah, so like hot Talk had been happening for
Speaker 4: like about six seven months by then, and like, yeah,
Speaker 4: we did it via zoom. I still wanted to do
Speaker 4: another health segment with like maybe somebody who could give
Speaker 4: it a butt doctor, somebody who could give us like
Speaker 4: butt health stuff, which and like, by the way, I
Speaker 4: may return to the podcasts world. I see myself in
Speaker 4: this position, in this space. Do you see yourself doing
Speaker 4: it by yourself?
Speaker 3: Probably?
Speaker 4: Yeah, I think I could do I think I want
Speaker 4: to do something I haven't. I have some ideas of
Speaker 4: what I could do, but I'm gonna wait for the
Speaker 4: new year because like there's a lot of I'm also
Speaker 4: in a very transitional space right now with my work,
Speaker 4: with my events and stuff.
Speaker 3: Are you transitioning, I'm transitioning finally, Yes.
Speaker 2: Everybody's been talking about it.
Speaker 3: It's it is that. I mean it is.
Speaker 2: I've been doing it.
Speaker 3: Like that's the energy.
Speaker 4: I feel like that is happening right now and like
Speaker 4: right now, literally we are taping this you guys on Halloween.
Speaker 4: The veil is thin, like I'm receiving Yeah, it's it's
Speaker 4: a weird time I'm receiving the messages. Do you feel
Speaker 4: like a connection to Halloween.
Speaker 3: So I am I am a Scorpio.
Speaker 4: I really love the fall, and I love spooky season,
Speaker 4: and I love what Fall kind of just represents in
Speaker 4: terms of just like the end of life, the alive
Speaker 4: era like period of the year. But Halloween itself is
Speaker 4: such a to do and I don't have the energy
Speaker 4: for it anymore. I had as as I've mentioned before,
Speaker 4: September was summer was busy, and then September like nearly
Speaker 4: killed me.
Speaker 3: September was so busy.
Speaker 4: So I came into this October very much intentionally thinking
Speaker 4: it was going to be a very quiet and kind
Speaker 4: of RESTful month, a time to regroup, a time to reflect.
Speaker 4: And even today, I'm not going to any of the parties.
Speaker 4: I'm going to like a pregame at somebody's house and
Speaker 4: then I'm just going to like watch people get ready
Speaker 4: for their parties and go and I'm just gonna like
Speaker 4: hang out.
Speaker 3: And can I bring my sibling and their friend? Probably
Speaker 3: do you want me to let you know if that's okay?
Speaker 2: We need somewhere to go because you're not going to
Speaker 2: any parties, and well, where is is yours?
Speaker 3: On the It's like mid City or something.
Speaker 2: Okay, I just we were thinking about going to Monica,
Speaker 2: but like it's so hard to get in and out
Speaker 2: of there.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I can't do it anymore. Those days are past.
Speaker 2: But I have a very simple costume. I'm gonna be
Speaker 2: a Debbie Downer.
Speaker 3: Okay, I got a bob.
Speaker 2: And I'm going to pass out everyone's favorite Halloween.
Speaker 3: Candy, feline aids.
Speaker 2: Oh he brought it, raisins, raisins.
Speaker 3: Oh my god, you didn't bring bananas to for the kids.
Speaker 2: We're gonna have I remember kid melted fun sized candy bars.
Speaker 2: They're sitting out in the sun right now.
Speaker 3: Hilarious.
Speaker 2: It might be hard to get out of the wrapper.
Speaker 3: You know, the car centogens and these melted candy bars
Speaker 3: cause cancer.
Speaker 2: When you leave it in the wrapper and it gets hot,
Speaker 2: all the toxins get into the chocolate exactly.
Speaker 4: The microplastics and this wrapper are all in your brain
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 2: Kind of hot for October. We're all living underwater.
Speaker 3: It has been a very hot Halloween week.
Speaker 2: This happens in October, but I mean.
Speaker 3: It was kind of noticeable a couple of days ago.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but let's acknowledge global warming totally.
Speaker 4: So yes, Yeah, I've been talking to some friends about
Speaker 4: like how I want to go back to Burning Man
Speaker 4: next year, and they're all talking.
Speaker 2: About like you might not have to go back, we'll
Speaker 2: just all be burning Well.
Speaker 4: There's that, of course, but also that like because the
Speaker 4: weather has been so shifty there, Like the last time
Speaker 4: I was there was when the mud Apocalypse happened, and
Speaker 4: then apparently this year it rained the first few days
Speaker 4: and then got better. And they're just like, maybe, like
Speaker 4: we just have to brace ourselves for the fact that
Speaker 4: climate has shifted.
Speaker 2: Just need to bring slip inside.
Speaker 3: Bring slip and slides and rain boots. I'll be prepared
Speaker 3: for sure.
Speaker 4: But anyway, so these these episodes, yeah, there are a
Speaker 4: few that I listened to over and over again and
Speaker 4: some that I haven't really been called to listen to again.
Speaker 3: I really love our episode with Tommy Defendie.
Speaker 4: I think it's noteworthy that on YouTube, cause you know,
Speaker 4: we're not really able to I don't know how to
Speaker 4: look at how many listens we've had on our on
Speaker 4: our audio who knows, but our YouTube you can see
Speaker 4: how many views there's been. The most viewed episode, I
Speaker 4: think on our YouTube channel.
Speaker 3: Do you know who it is?
Speaker 2: Is it Tommy?
Speaker 3: No? Tommy, we don't have our first season on YouTube.
Speaker 3: It's Christian Wild and that is a fan fantastic episode. Yeah,
Speaker 3: Christian Wild is wild.
Speaker 2: He's only wild.
Speaker 4: He's brilliant and he's beautiful and like I just like
Speaker 4: totally like he's just a he's just a really cool guy.
Speaker 4: And I really love that episode and it has like
Speaker 4: thirty five thousand views on our YouTube channel or something,
Speaker 4: whereas I feel like a lot of our latest episodes
Speaker 4: like average at like two to three thousand. We just
Speaker 4: we've also I don't know if you guys have noticed
Speaker 4: terrible at marketing.
Speaker 3: Terrible.
Speaker 2: We needed somebody for that.
Speaker 4: Definitely, Like we've been doing this ourselves, like you know,
Speaker 4: we have the boost from Cyber Socket in season two,
Speaker 4: which was very nice, and then we were still at
Speaker 4: the studio for season three and half of season four
Speaker 4: and then they were like okay, like the studio is closing.
Speaker 4: So we've been doing this pretty much on our on
Speaker 4: our own, with the help of po pop Star, which
Speaker 4: is why I think we were just kind of like,
Speaker 4: you know, like, yeah, we've we've done like we've fulfilled
Speaker 4: our mission statement. We did what we needed to do
Speaker 4: with this podcast, and like now my events are like
Speaker 4: taking kind of center focus. I'm trying to get back
Speaker 4: into content creation, but it's not the like focus of
Speaker 4: my life. You are on your you know, your massage
Speaker 4: is doing well, and you're also on this intimacy coordination path. Yeah,
Speaker 4: do you want to talk about that a little bit?
Speaker 4: Like how that's been.
Speaker 2: It's it's making me look at things different in different ways.
Speaker 2: What things that's just like like boundary and okay, gender
Speaker 2: even like the whole section on the guest instructor for
Speaker 2: the last few tutorials that I've been through is Sunny Megatron,
Speaker 2: who is a sex educator and also like a kink
Speaker 2: educator like BDSM kink fetish. So I've had like like
Speaker 2: a whole education on that stuff and it's made me
Speaker 2: like remove some of my biases about it. Okay, I
Speaker 2: still don't know what need fisting really delivers, but most
Speaker 2: kids like deliver a need for like something for for
Speaker 2: that person.
Speaker 3: He's always to achieve intimacy. They're all all of them
Speaker 3: are way Because I remember when we were talking I
Speaker 3: don't know if it was with Hayden or with James,
Speaker 3: when you were talking about how you think that kinks
Speaker 3: are all just.
Speaker 2: Traumas, and sometimes it is sometimes, but sometimes the kink
Speaker 2: is or the fetish is how people work through things
Speaker 2: like rape fantasies can be like can be someone who
Speaker 2: has been sexually assaulted and they're in control of this scene,
Speaker 2: stop at anytime, and they can say and like, there's
Speaker 2: a whole consensual element to all of it, and there's
Speaker 2: actually like four things. I'm going to get this maybe
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get this wrong. Let me pause, and let
Speaker 2: me pause. There's four things, four elements of a scene.
Speaker 2: And it made me think about like, oh, there's two
Speaker 2: of them missing in just like a hookup have like
Speaker 2: the the first part of a kink scene is like
Speaker 2: a discussion. I consent, and then the second part is
Speaker 2: the scene itself, like the actual thing, and then the
Speaker 2: third part is aftercare, which is like are you okay?
Speaker 2: How is that?
Speaker 3: Like?
Speaker 2: Did you like is everything? How are you feeling? And
Speaker 2: then the last thing, which might not happen right then,
Speaker 2: it could happen like a couple of days later, is
Speaker 2: like a Debriefingcha and okay, so you know we hook
Speaker 2: up from an app and we're like, yep, we talk
Speaker 2: about it, you want to do it? Yep, come over,
Speaker 2: fuck boom, no aftercare no, yes, but that's probably where
Speaker 2: the intimacy happens, and like where you realize, like what
Speaker 2: you got out of.
Speaker 3: That hmm experience. You learned this in an intimacy coordination.
Speaker 2: Class about kinks and fetishes.
Speaker 3: And I love this path for you, I really do.
Speaker 4: I want to hear more about it, and like as
Speaker 4: we start to like wrap up this episode, I also
Speaker 4: want to say you and I have really relied on
Speaker 4: this podcast.
Speaker 2: I know we have to hang out. We have to
Speaker 2: make time to hang out because we won't have this
Speaker 2: to do it.
Speaker 4: I really mean it, Like I mean I and I
Speaker 4: kind of I look forward to seeing how our lives
Speaker 4: kind of like thrive as we both transition into these
Speaker 4: new phases. I'm just really proud of what we've done here,
Speaker 4: and I really want to thank you for like being we.
Speaker 2: Did it and we kept each other going. Sometimes I
Speaker 2: didn't want to do it, sometimes you didn't want to
Speaker 2: do it, and we're it's like we got a tape,
Speaker 2: like we gotta find a guest, you gotta do it.
Speaker 3: I want to thank our guests for being so game,
Speaker 3: Like I think it was really great to open up.
Speaker 2: With people to share about themselves that maybe they don't
Speaker 2: always get a chance to talk to because you do
Speaker 2: an interview for like the Sword, and they're like, what's
Speaker 2: the biggest dick you've ever taken? Or like what makes
Speaker 2: you come?
Speaker 4: Yeah, Like I wanted I wanted this podcast to like obviously,
Speaker 4: we keep it light as much as possible, but I
Speaker 4: also wanted to get the heart to the heart of
Speaker 4: things and like look at porn from a psychological perspective
Speaker 4: and like just you know, like the stuff that shaped
Speaker 4: us growing up, the reasons why we got into it,
Speaker 4: what about it makes us feel empowered? What about it
Speaker 4: we hate? You know, the good stories, the bad stories.
Speaker 4: It was really helpful to have your humor and your
Speaker 4: because you know, like I kind of like get to
Speaker 4: the heart of things.
Speaker 2: I know, and I appreciate. I appreciated our balance. We're
Speaker 2: just like patting ourselves on the back right now.
Speaker 3: Why not?
Speaker 2: Yeah, No, we had I think we had a good
Speaker 2: flow and I think we I think we improved over time,
Speaker 2: definitely for sure. The other thing another thing about the
Speaker 2: intimacy coordination, the coordinating thing that I did, like one
Speaker 2: of the lessons on like porn and media and how
Speaker 2: we there's nothing wrong with porn. I'll say that, like
Speaker 2: there's like there are some issues, but porn itself explicit
Speaker 2: things which is defined as like things that have no
Speaker 2: artistic value, okay, which is kind of not always true,
Speaker 2: and we can acknowledge that too. You can make like
Speaker 2: artsy there is art, absolutely, but we sometimes we canflate fantasy,
Speaker 2: entertainment and education. We conflate, Oh, I see, there's just
Speaker 2: like what we see isn't always true. What we see
Speaker 2: in the media isn't always true. What we see in
Speaker 2: porn isn't actually like you wouldn't learn how to drive
Speaker 2: from watching.
Speaker 3: Fast and the Furious.
Speaker 2: Absolutely, you don't learn how to have sex from watching porn.
Speaker 3: And a lot of people do lift their sexual personalities
Speaker 3: from what they see in porn.
Speaker 2: I learned how to perform in porn from porn, right,
Speaker 2: But it's not necessarily how people have sex.
Speaker 3: In connecting with individuals and.
Speaker 2: How I have sex in real life. It's porns.
Speaker 4: No, I think that I feel like I have sex
Speaker 4: very differently in like an intimate space.
Speaker 3: And I noticed it especially because like.
Speaker 4: Now that I've been filming here and there, like with
Speaker 4: like the Randy Blue scenes and stuff, and you know,
Speaker 4: like these last two times I filmed with Randy Blue.
Speaker 4: Both times, RJ was like, damn, dude, you still got it,
Speaker 4: Like you still got.
Speaker 3: It, you know how to perform, and I was just like,
Speaker 3: the thing is, it's not It's not like what we
Speaker 3: do on camera is fake. It's just that what we
Speaker 3: do we do two camera, and I think that it's
Speaker 3: fun to know how to do that. I'm glad to
Speaker 3: get reminders that I'm good at what I do in
Speaker 3: adult films, but also love that I still am at
Speaker 3: you know, I'm about to turn forty four and I'm
Speaker 3: still having great sex and it's wonderful. And I'm glad
Speaker 3: that my relationship to adult films didn't affect my relationship
Speaker 3: to sex in a negative way where I felt like
Speaker 3: sex sex was only about work.
Speaker 2: I've been and I've been there. I feel like I've
Speaker 2: I'm not there now, but like even recently, like with
Speaker 2: massage too, and I felt like, oh, like, yikes, all
Speaker 2: the time I'm doing contact and it's monetized and I'm like,
Speaker 2: I just don't really and I'm like I'm not even looking.
Speaker 2: I'm not even like trying to have recreational sex. I'm
Speaker 2: not even like I'm like, for if someone, if I
Speaker 2: go on a date with somebody, and I'm like, I
Speaker 2: don't really want to have sex, right, Like I just
Speaker 2: want to get to know somebody, right, So.
Speaker 3: Yeah, yeah, you gotta be careful. Well, I think this
Speaker 3: pretty much wraps it up for me. Do you have
Speaker 3: anything more to add any more Raisins? No more Raisins for.
Speaker 4: Me, but I'm gonna I'm I just love you so much.
Speaker 3: I love you too.
Speaker 4: Thank you for this. This has been wonderful, a wonderful run.
Speaker 4: I love you, and thank you to our listeners so much.
Speaker 3: For your support.
Speaker 4: This is bittersweet because we have really it's been very interesting,
Speaker 4: especially this last year. So many people have come up
Speaker 4: to me, like in Berlin at parties, like they'll be like,
Speaker 4: oh my god, love the podcast.
Speaker 2: I know people come in for a massage and they're like,
Speaker 2: I just love you guys. I was like, this is
Speaker 2: after we kind of like talked about it being like
Speaker 2: the last season. Yeah, and then like three people and
Speaker 2: like messages on Holy events and Instagram and like everything.
Speaker 2: You're like, right, I was like should we I'm like, wait,
Speaker 2: are people getting it?
Speaker 4: Now right, Yeah, but you can still find us. We'll
Speaker 4: still be posting on our Instagram here and there, just
Speaker 4: to remind people that it's there. Because these conversations are
Speaker 4: kind of timeless.
Speaker 2: And maybe we should do Marco Polo Marco Polo.
Speaker 3: Oh, that could be fun. I haven't known that so
Speaker 3: long that. Yeah, I haven't done that anyway.
Speaker 4: Well, thank you, Cole, Thank you guys for being wonderful supporters,
Speaker 4: Thank you for listening, and for the.
Speaker 3: Final time, sorry for asking. Sorry for asking.
Speaker 4: I'm Adam Ramsey, Cole Connora.
Speaker 2: This has been Sorry for asking.
Speaker 3: Be sure to like, comment, and subscribe, and until next time,
Speaker 3: stay sexy.