Speaker 1: I'm the host of True Murder Dan Zupanski, and I'm
Speaker 1: recommending a podcast that truly captivated me. It's called kill List.
Speaker 1: One night, a hacker breaks into a dark web murder
Speaker 1: for higher sight, uncovering a chilling cache of documents called
Speaker 1: the kill List. It details hundreds of names around the globe,
Speaker 1: complete with faces, addresses, as well as payments and instructions
Speaker 1: for their murders. When a murder disguised as a suicide
Speaker 1: shakes a quiet suburb, a hacker connects the victim to
Speaker 1: the kill list. With local police slow to act, he
Speaker 1: turns to an unsuspecting investigative journalist to help. His name
Speaker 1: is Carl Miller. When law enforcement decides not to investigate,
Speaker 1: our team is forced to take matters into our own hands,
Speaker 1: a decision that plunges us into a high stakes race
Speaker 1: to warn those whose lives are in danger, and it
Speaker 1: turns out convincing a total stranger someone wants I'm dead
Speaker 1: is not that easy. I'm about to play a clip
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Speaker 2: Are you ready?
Speaker 3: Yep?
Speaker 4: It's a Thursday afternoon and I'm going to call with
Speaker 4: one of my producers. The road outside my house is
Speaker 4: almost totally silent. On my computer, I open Chris's documents.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, there's a lot on here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Chris is running through the orders.
Speaker 4: But this is the first time I've got my hands
Speaker 4: on the kill list itself. It's a long spreadsheet of names, locations,
Speaker 4: telephone numbers.
Speaker 3: So how many do we have?
Speaker 2: It looks like those eighty five eighty five.
Speaker 4: I scroll through the list, A man from the US,
Speaker 4: a woman from Russia. Alongside each name there are contact details,
Speaker 4: workplace addresses, details of their movements, and in most cases,
Speaker 4: there are photos.
Speaker 3: The photos are the thing that strike me first.
Speaker 4: A few dozen people staring out at you as you
Speaker 4: open this document. In one, a middle aged man stands
Speaker 4: surrounded by his family. His light blue eyes twinkle with
Speaker 4: a deep and joyful pride. In another, a woman tilts
Speaker 4: her head. She smiles shyly at the camera over wimless glasses.
Speaker 4: She's somewhere glipsy. She looks relaxed and happy. The thing
Speaker 4: that's so striking about these photos is that they look
Speaker 4: like they've all been taken from the social media. They
Speaker 4: look like kind of mainly Facebook profile so they're the
Speaker 4: ones that you decide to put on your profile picture.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they're nice photos.
Speaker 5: Yeah, and it's I mean, it's just a p But
Speaker 5: they all just sort of have this on, you know.
Speaker 5: They just don't know and this is just sort of
Speaker 5: looming over their head and they have no idea.
Speaker 2: You know, man, this is awful.
Speaker 4: This list looks like any other Excel spreadsheets. It's innocuous, boring,
Speaker 4: even until you read the instructions listed against each name.
Speaker 1: There's one fucking guy and I only have his name
Speaker 1: and the city he lives in.
Speaker 4: How can I hire a killer to kill him?
Speaker 3: How much bitcoin should I pay?
Speaker 4: Tell me the execution time and advairs.
Speaker 2: I can't be there.
Speaker 4: I would just like this person to be shot and
Speaker 4: killed where, how and what with?
Speaker 2: Does not bother me at all.
Speaker 3: I would just like this person dead.
Speaker 4: These are the messages written by whoever paid to have
Speaker 4: these people assassinated, Their specifications for the hit, kill.
Speaker 3: Your kidnaps silent, and your race without the trace. Killer
Speaker 3: nurse in Taipei.
Speaker 5: I guess we don't know the badstory, but like a nurse,
Speaker 5: I want her to be killed.
Speaker 2: It should seems instead because.
Speaker 3: Of abstract kidnapped family in Hong Kong.
Speaker 4: Can we say fifteen bit coin for hip of the
Speaker 4: car and sure fatality?
Speaker 2: Mother needs to die. Someone wants to kill their mind.
Speaker 3: Kill an unidentified woman in Ottawa.
Speaker 2: Kill a woman who permitted sexual abuse. Jesus, man, this
Speaker 2: is terrible, just.
Speaker 4: Like these are really possibly eighty five really serious crimes
Speaker 4: just staring back at us. Yeah, I mean this is
Speaker 4: conspiracy to commit murder ethically, this is the hardest thing
Speaker 4: to cover that I've ever tried to do. And for sure,
Speaker 4: I mean this is an ethical bomb waiting to blow
Speaker 4: up in our faces if we don't do this correctly.
Speaker 2: Yeah. I don't know, man.
Speaker 5: It looks like a big Pandora's box that were opening,
Speaker 5: and once you open it, it's opening.
Speaker 2: I don't think we can put it shirt.
Speaker 4: The thought of what could go wrong if I meddle
Speaker 4: with this is terrifying, But so is the thought of
Speaker 4: what could happen if I do nothing. So I start
Speaker 4: with the obvious step. I'm quite nervous, honestly, like I
Speaker 4: wasn't able to sleep that well.
Speaker 3: I don't know why.
Speaker 4: Suddenly makes it a lot more real when it's just
Speaker 4: a spreadsheet at the moment, and it's about to turn
Speaker 4: into a crime. I'm about to phone the police and
Speaker 4: hand over my information. Chris might have struggled with law enforcements,
Speaker 4: but I've worked with the police before in my reporting.
Speaker 3: I'm confident I can do better.
Speaker 4: After all, this is a credible threats How hard can
Speaker 4: it be to get them to take it seriously?
Speaker 1: All right?
Speaker 3: Should I just do it? Then?
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