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<v Speaker 1>I'm the host of True Murder Dan Zupanski, and I'm

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<v Speaker 1>recommending a podcast that truly captivated me. It's called kill List.

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<v Speaker 1>One night, a hacker breaks into a dark web murder

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<v Speaker 1>for higher sight, uncovering a chilling cache of documents called

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<v Speaker 1>the kill List. It details hundreds of names around the globe,

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<v Speaker 1>complete with faces, addresses, as well as payments and instructions

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<v Speaker 1>for their murders. When a murder disguised as a suicide

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<v Speaker 1>shakes a quiet suburb, a hacker connects the victim to

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<v Speaker 1>the kill list. With local police slow to act, he

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<v Speaker 1>turns to an unsuspecting investigative journalist to help. His name

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<v Speaker 1>is Carl Miller. When law enforcement decides not to investigate,

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<v Speaker 1>our team is forced to take matters into our own hands,

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<v Speaker 1>a decision that plunges us into a high stakes race

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<v Speaker 1>to warn those whose lives are in danger, and it

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<v Speaker 1>turns out convincing a total stranger someone wants I'm dead

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<v Speaker 1>is not that easy. I'm about to play a clip

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<v Speaker 1>from kill List. Follow kill List on the Wondery app

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<v Speaker 1>or wherever you get your podcasts.

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<v Speaker 2>Are you ready?

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<v Speaker 3>Yep?

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<v Speaker 4>It's a Thursday afternoon and I'm going to call with

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<v Speaker 4>one of my producers. The road outside my house is

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<v Speaker 4>almost totally silent. On my computer, I open Chris's documents.

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<v Speaker 2>Oh wow, there's a lot on here.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, Chris is running through the orders.

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<v Speaker 4>But this is the first time I've got my hands

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<v Speaker 4>on the kill list itself. It's a long spreadsheet of names, locations,

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<v Speaker 4>telephone numbers.

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<v Speaker 3>So how many do we have?

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<v Speaker 2>It looks like those eighty five eighty five.

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<v Speaker 4>I scroll through the list, A man from the US,

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<v Speaker 4>a woman from Russia. Alongside each name there are contact details,

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<v Speaker 4>workplace addresses, details of their movements, and in most cases,

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<v Speaker 4>there are photos.

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<v Speaker 3>The photos are the thing that strike me first.

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<v Speaker 4>A few dozen people staring out at you as you

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<v Speaker 4>open this document. In one, a middle aged man stands

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<v Speaker 4>surrounded by his family. His light blue eyes twinkle with

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<v Speaker 4>a deep and joyful pride. In another, a woman tilts

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<v Speaker 4>her head. She smiles shyly at the camera over wimless glasses.

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<v Speaker 4>She's somewhere glipsy. She looks relaxed and happy. The thing

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<v Speaker 4>that's so striking about these photos is that they look

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<v Speaker 4>like they've all been taken from the social media. They

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<v Speaker 4>look like kind of mainly Facebook profile so they're the

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<v Speaker 4>ones that you decide to put on your profile picture.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they're nice photos.

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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, and it's I mean, it's just a p But

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<v Speaker 5>they all just sort of have this on, you know.

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<v Speaker 5>They just don't know and this is just sort of

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<v Speaker 5>looming over their head and they have no idea.

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<v Speaker 2>You know, man, this is awful.

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<v Speaker 4>This list looks like any other Excel spreadsheets. It's innocuous, boring,

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<v Speaker 4>even until you read the instructions listed against each name.

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<v Speaker 1>There's one fucking guy and I only have his name

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<v Speaker 1>and the city he lives in.

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<v Speaker 4>How can I hire a killer to kill him?

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<v Speaker 3>How much bitcoin should I pay?

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<v Speaker 4>Tell me the execution time and advairs.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't be there.

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<v Speaker 4>I would just like this person to be shot and

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<v Speaker 4>killed where, how and what with?

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<v Speaker 2>Does not bother me at all.

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<v Speaker 3>I would just like this person dead.

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<v Speaker 4>These are the messages written by whoever paid to have

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<v Speaker 4>these people assassinated, Their specifications for the hit, kill.

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<v Speaker 3>Your kidnaps silent, and your race without the trace. Killer

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<v Speaker 3>nurse in Taipei.

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<v Speaker 5>I guess we don't know the badstory, but like a nurse,

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<v Speaker 5>I want her to be killed.

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<v Speaker 2>It should seems instead because.

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<v Speaker 3>Of abstract kidnapped family in Hong Kong.

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<v Speaker 4>Can we say fifteen bit coin for hip of the

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<v Speaker 4>car and sure fatality?

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<v Speaker 2>Mother needs to die. Someone wants to kill their mind.

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<v Speaker 3>Kill an unidentified woman in Ottawa.

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<v Speaker 2>Kill a woman who permitted sexual abuse. Jesus, man, this

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<v Speaker 2>is terrible, just.

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<v Speaker 4>Like these are really possibly eighty five really serious crimes

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<v Speaker 4>just staring back at us. Yeah, I mean this is

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<v Speaker 4>conspiracy to commit murder ethically, this is the hardest thing

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<v Speaker 4>to cover that I've ever tried to do. And for sure,

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<v Speaker 4>I mean this is an ethical bomb waiting to blow

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<v Speaker 4>up in our faces if we don't do this correctly.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah. I don't know, man.

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<v Speaker 5>It looks like a big Pandora's box that were opening,

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<v Speaker 5>and once you open it, it's opening.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think we can put it shirt.

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<v Speaker 4>The thought of what could go wrong if I meddle

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<v Speaker 4>with this is terrifying, But so is the thought of

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<v Speaker 4>what could happen if I do nothing. So I start

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<v Speaker 4>with the obvious step. I'm quite nervous, honestly, like I

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<v Speaker 4>wasn't able to sleep that well.

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<v Speaker 3>I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 4>Suddenly makes it a lot more real when it's just

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<v Speaker 4>a spreadsheet at the moment, and it's about to turn

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<v Speaker 4>into a crime. I'm about to phone the police and

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<v Speaker 4>hand over my information. Chris might have struggled with law enforcements,

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<v Speaker 4>but I've worked with the police before in my reporting.

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<v Speaker 3>I'm confident I can do better.

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<v Speaker 4>After all, this is a credible threats How hard can

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<v Speaker 4>it be to get them to take it seriously?

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<v Speaker 1>All right?

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<v Speaker 3>Should I just do it? Then?

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