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Speaker 2: About what does that have to do with whether or

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not you should talk about it or not? So I mean,

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are you just a subservient person at all times, Trent,

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when even the you just obey your critics. So when

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a critic tells you to stay in your own lane,

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you stop talking about how of this? I'm your critic, Trent.

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I'm going to tell you, as a masculine man, to

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stop talking about this nonsense that you don't know about.

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Speaker 3: So will you now stay in your own Lanthuh?

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Speaker 1: Some of those things? And I think Christians should engage

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manisphere content, but I'm not going to do formal debates

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or discussions on fringe topics, silly things or prudential judgments

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we can reasonably disagree about.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but what you.

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Speaker 2: Think are fringe topics are actually now the biggest news

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story in the world, like Epstein and the connections to

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John Paul the second And you're obviously coping covering up

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for that and acting like it's a fringe topic, including

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the subject that I've asked you for years to publicly debate,

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the geopolitical entanglements of the Vatican. Now when I first

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presented that to Trent. His response was, even know what

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that means? What would it even mean.

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Speaker 3: To debate the geopolitics of the Vatican?

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Speaker 2: So I said, here, I'll put it in a more

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precise formulation for you. What's a better explanation for the

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actions of the papacy in the last century, the promise

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of Peter that it has indefectibility and infallibility, or geopolitical

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entanglements and power elites turning the theology to their own desires.

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What's a better explanation for that twentieth century papal zeitgeist. Now,

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if my position is correct, and if I made that

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case convincingly, that would mean that Jesus again is not

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promising a special petrine kerorism to protect it and guide

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it as it's become an organized crime syndicate, as has

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become a tool of globalization UNESCO type values, which quote

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Speaker 3: As well as Davos in its value use.

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Speaker 2: That would mean that Jesus is not telling us that

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we have to submit to a corrupt, wicked geopolitical tool

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pushing all of the things that are absolutely contrary to Christianity.

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Speaker 3: Well, what about all the times when they don't push.

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Speaker 2: It, and it has nothing to do with whether it's

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a contradiction, right if you say.

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Speaker 3: Well, but there's all these places with the papers, who

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says good stuff? That's the first thing they always run to.

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Speaker 2: All that tells me is that it's a double speak bureaucracy.

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out of both sides of your mouth. So when there's

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double speak, that immediately suggests a lack of honesty, a

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lack of integrity, And who can honestly say that the

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Vatican has not become geopolitically corrupted, which is immediately why

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this is such a big deal right now given the

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Epstein information, that's why this is coming out. The Vatican

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is obviously implicated in several emails, and they've immediately rushed

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to cover that up and to explain it away. That's

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what they do. It's what they've always done. It's what

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happened with Bernard Law and the abuse cases. It's what

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happened with the guy that ran what was Legionnaires of

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Christ or whatever. The massive abuse cases they cover up

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because they're liars and they don't care about what's true.

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Speaker 3: For them, truth is a making operation.

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Speaker 2: It's a creative process to make this system work. They're

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system builders. They're like Hegel or Kant or any of

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the philosophers or a quitness. They want to build and

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construct a vast system, and that's the deity, this big system.

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Speaker 2: Are so worried and why Trend is having to double down.

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massive podcasts. I did interviews all week long. I had

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one point for my channel. That's massive, and a lot

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of that was talking about Vatican relations. Yes, we covered

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Speaker 1: Tewod Timothy two twenty three says have nothing to do

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with stupid, senseless controversies. You know that they breed quarrels.

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sides of the same coin. Apologetics shows people Christianity is true,

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and politics works to influence people to enact various policies

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that should reflect the truth.

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Speaker 2: Well, then you should be all the more willing to

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debate the geopolitics of the Vatican. Let me give you

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a concrete example of where I can prove that that's

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absolutely necessary and interconnected. Vatican two's document Gaudium at Spez,

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as we have pointed out in many videos and lectures

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and talks, is a political position paper a Vatican two

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adopting many Fabian, Socialist, Marxist open borders, dearmament positions, including

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many statements supporting the United Nations and UNESCO type stuff. So,

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its presumed magisterium of Vatican two, Gaudium at Spez, why

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would you not defend its positions from the Vatican if

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you just admitted that political positions reflect apologetic positions. So

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him then saying I don't have to address the geopolitics

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of the papers he because I don't do that. It's

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not what I cover, it's not relevant. It's fringe. You

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just said it's not fringe. Do you even know what's

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in Gattia Mespez?

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Speaker 3: Have you even read it? I bet he hasn't even

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Speaker 1: But in many cases, to convince people to do something

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like vote against abortion, you need to convince them the

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Christian position is true, or you need to do apologetics.

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And I agree that to change culture you have to

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do political things like lobby, campaign for candidates, and argue

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for policy changes and prudential actions among individuals and communities.

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These things are outside of my wheelhouse, so I'm grateful

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for the Christians who do them well. One example I'd

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whose show I went on earlier this year, We Don't

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Thnik is a great example of how to be tough

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and masculine. I certainly wouldn't want to get in a

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fight with the guy, how to advance God's kingdom through politics,

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and how to be charitable while doing all of this.

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guys who could legit kill you with their bare hands.

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They don't go around puffing out their chests and verbally

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abusing people.

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Speaker 3: Now again, for those that are curious, here is a thirty.

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Speaker 2: Eight minute talk that was clipped over at dire Central,

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just specifically on Trent's official political position that he must

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support via the Vatican aka Gaudium at Spez, the Marxist

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sixty five. So this is the Vatican's official geopolitical statement

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Speaker 3: Now, he mentioned Nick.

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Speaker 2: Freitas, who I thought that is he a Protestant? So

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his example of masculinity actually has to go to a Protestant.

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if I'm wrong, because I remember, I remember I had

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some DMS with Nick Fretas and we were going to

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because I'm too mean, or he found out that I

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debate Protestants. But somebody correct me, is is Nick Fritas

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even a Roman Catholic? Because that's very telling to me

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that when Trent thinks of in his mind, the first

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most masculine Christian commentator that's out there.

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Speaker 3: He goes to a Protestant.

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Speaker 2: He doesn't even go to Tim Gordon, Like what I mean, Okay,

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Speaker 3: I don't know. Let's see what he is, do.

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Speaker 2: You guys know, Yeah, he's a Protestant. He doesn't even

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mention his own Tim Gordon. By the way, Tim Gordon is.

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Speaker 3: A buff dude.

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Speaker 2: I'm pretty sure Tim would beat my ass have we

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got in a fight, So it's kind of an insult.

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I would say, like, he doesn't even think of his

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own masculine Roman Catholic. Who's that other guy that was

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named Mano, the guy that does the masculinity podcast or

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Speaker 3: I mean, that's a buff Roman Catholic, straight dude.

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Speaker 2: He didn't even think of any of those. He immediately

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Speaker 3: This is just weird.

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Speaker 1: Guys who do that are usually over compensating for some insecurity.

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Albrecht exposed how Ryan used a fake quote from the

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Church Fathers in a previous video.

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Speaker 2: Are you sure you want to go to William Albrecht

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Speaker 3: I mean, William Albrach has the biggest He's got the

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biggest list the bay out there.

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Speaker 2: If you let it go to William Albrack, you better

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be watching it off for that list because masculinity. By

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Speaker 2: The workout obsessed body workout stuff sphere is gay.

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Speaker 2: A minute, if it's masculinity and working out that is

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characteristic or excuse me, If working out is characteristic of masculinity,

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then why is it so full of gay dudes?

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Speaker 2: Lot of guys who were very buff, athletic jock dudes.

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they got cocked by various women, left by various women,

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now fat beer swilling.

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Speaker 3: Football watching simps. What's getting? What am I getting at here?

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Speaker 2: He's messing one of the key component which he himself

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doesn't understand, which is mental strength. There are plenty of

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which is a component of masculinity. Dudes should be in

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the gym. Dude should be strong, physically fit. Absolutely, you

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should be able to do a lot of push ups,

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a lot of pull ups.

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Speaker 3: I can't.

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Speaker 2: But it's also mental strength, psychological strength that really expresses masculinity,

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that enables you to not be a simp. In fact,

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it's worse to be a simp than to lose your

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temperate sometimes, as dudes often do. Dudes do that, Think

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back to the schoolyard, you and your buddies, You get matt,

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you scrap, you have a brawl, afterwards, your best buds,

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Speaker 3: That's what guys do.

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Speaker 2: That's normal behavior in the dude realm. Dudes talk crap,

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you're going to play basketball. You're talking crap to your buddies.

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You're trying to get in their head, mess them up,

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and then play in the game. Right, That's what dudes do.

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normal dude behavior is the worst behavior, and so they've

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actually bought into the feminist view of what Christianity is

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and male feminism is to castigate normal male behavior. Yes,

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men can fall into vices. They're prone to their own vices.

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I'm not supporting male vices, but what I'm saying is

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that this is all so wrongheaded as to what masculinity is,

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what Christian masculinity is, and they immediately don't even think

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about the number one thing that would characterize masculinity, which

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is rational strength, mental strength. In fact, he mentioned frighttas

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who is turns out he's a Green Beret. We've talked

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Guys that went into black ops, guys that went into

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intelligence operations, etc. Do you think the most important characteristic

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male strength, as Trent just did with Nick Fritos, wouldn't

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that tell you that women are also thus necessarily typically

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physically the inferior. Of course, that's common sense. Yet Trent

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seems to triple quadruple down to defend the position of

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first wave feminism that there's some sort of equalitarian relationship

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between men and women in marriage, which is just simply

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not true.

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Speaker 1: He probably got from a lazy Google search, and Albreight

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was assertive and not letting Ryan Weasel's way out of

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this revelation.

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Speaker 3: I want to pause for a moment and give you

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a chance to read the whole of that.

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Speaker 2: Quote again, citing the most lispy, leather daddy Roman Catholic

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apologist out there, William Albrecht, who wears a Cassolic with

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a Roman Catholic dog collar. Has anybody explained or found

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out why a layman is wearing a Roman Catholic priest outfit?

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And why on his icon wall did he have a

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giant poster of himself in his gay workout gear. I'm

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not joking. We covered that in the in the Albrech

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video the other day. This is his example of masculinity.

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A Protestant dude and lispy leather daddy albright. This is

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this is comedy itself right here.

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Speaker 4: Can you get that full quote and read.

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Speaker 3: It for us?

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Speaker 4: Donavon hand?

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Speaker 3: But I can. I will wait for us.

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Speaker 4: That's fine. If you want to waste your time on this,

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that's so good.

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Speaker 3: It is brutal for you because I know where you

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got it from. I know you got all this. It's

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brutal for you because I know where you got it from.

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Speaker 5: Because I'm I'm a frequent traveler to list dot com

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and to Also I have many mini profiles on grinders

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dot com. So if you guys want to message me

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afterwards when I take off my fake Catholic oh, you

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can find me at grinders dot com.

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Speaker 3: Quotes from Google dot com.

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Speaker 1: You did zero research, are you aware?

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Speaker 3: Ryan? You did zero research? Zero research?

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Speaker 2: Again, this is his example of proper masculinity. That guy

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with the gayest lisp since James White.

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Speaker 3: That that is a fake quote. It doesn't even come

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from Saint Jerome.

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Speaker 1: Christian shouldn't be pushed goods, but we also shouldn't, as

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Andrew says, do everything we can to maintain political power.

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After all, Christians can't do evil so that good may come.

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As Paul says in Romans three eight. In our email exchange,

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Andrew said, politics is ugly, dirty, brutal. There's doxing, swatting, assassination, attempts,

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reputational destruction, slander and rumor mongering. That's true, but Christians

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should not use those tactics against their opponents, even if

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they are used against us. We shouldn't dox people knowing

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that this could lead to them being harmed. We shouldn't

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spread lies, and we definitely shouldn't asassinate people, even if

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they talk about killing us. In our exchange, Andrew said

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that he agrees we shouldn't do those things either, but

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I would add onto the list that we shouldn't even

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be verbally abusive when we are mocked. We should instead

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imitate our Lord, who endured abuse without striking his abusers.

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That's why I agree with what Joel Berry from the

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Babylon b said on tim Poole's.

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Speaker 3: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Now, let's go to the Zionists. Let's go to the

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evangelical Zionist disinformation outlet to prove our case on morals.

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So where's where are we deriving our examples from Protestants, Skittles,

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Rumman Catholics and Zionist evangelicals.

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Speaker 1: This is laughable podcast about how Christians are handicapped in

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fighting evil because we have principles and our opponents don't.

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Speaker 6: That is what makes this fight so unfair, all right,

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because we are our enemy is a.

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Speaker 2: By the way, this is another person who will not

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debate because he just wants to spout evangelical Zionist quasi

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dispensationalist theology and he doesn't do debates. So, of course,

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not because I d in with this guy trying to

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get him to do a debate.

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Speaker 3: He will not do it.

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Speaker 2: And I'm sure that it would conveniently come up that

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if you pressed him, because I'm mean and have toxic behavior. Now,

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I'm also surprised, in the midst of all these whining

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rants that Trent hasn't found a way to call us racists.

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Speaker 3: I'm surprised he hasn't called me racist yet, But maybe

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that's the next phase. That's that's the next level.

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Speaker 2: He's going to go full professor day and make impressions

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and jokes are not going to be full racist because

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at root, I think what we're seeing is that Trent

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has of veneer of Christian conservatism. But really it's just

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a kind of mushy lib view.

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Speaker 6: Ultimately, by any means necessary enemy they only want power,

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they'll do whatever it takes to achieve it, and here

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we are on our side.

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Speaker 2: So I mean, I'm curious does Joel Berry's commentary there

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apply to Natanyahu. Is he talking about the political class

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like Biebe? Is he talking about those people or is

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that exempted because he thinks that the atheist nation state

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of Israel is God's chosen people who, by the way,

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Trent Horn also, I can very clearly tell, only wants

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to come after people that also don't express the correct

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geopolitical positions. I'm curious if Trent has any criticisms of

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rabbinic philosophy. And I'm told through the grapevine that he's

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actually about to do a video perhaps defending the Talmud

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from misinterpretations of the Talmud. So what does that tell

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you about the direction that Trent's.

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Speaker 6: Going in as Christians, I'm a Christian.

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Speaker 2: Oh and speaking of that, he already kind of did

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this by tone policing me about a ridiculous joke about

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a ridiculous con man. Bishop tilled Us want tilled Us win.

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So it's more important to tone police me over a

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funny joke than it is to call out a rabid,

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anti white, vicious huckster Marxist, openly Marxist.

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Speaker 3: That's more important. It's more important.

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Speaker 2: To defend John Paul the Second's relationship to the Vatican

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is to the to Epstein, than to actually investigate it

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and see what's going on. It's more important to triple

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down and defend the Vatican at all costs. Now that

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the Vatican teaches essentially a judaized theology post Vatican two,

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and there is a video right there showing that Vatican

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two teaches through Gudium spez Fabian Marxist socialist teaching.

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Speaker 6: We have rules, we have morals, we have things that

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we can't do, right, I think that we should do

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whatever it takes, you know, tactically in.

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Speaker 2: Other well, welly, the way, isn't it Essentially that Trent's

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approach is to build bridges in an ecumenist way by

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citing these ridiculous people like this guy as the examples

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of Christian piety and Christian media. You know, the paragons

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of Christian media are Evangelical Zionists, Protestants and and absolute

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creep Roman Catholics like all breck.

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Speaker 6: To win short of violating scripture. And that's what makes

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the fight unfair. But here's the thing, here's where faith

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Speaker 3: Is a Christian That's a good way to put it.

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Speaker 2: Trend Horn, Trent wants to liken himself to the Council

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of Trent, right he don he calls podcast Council of Trent.

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Speaker 3: Well, the Council of Trent.

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Speaker 2: Teaches the death penalty as part of natural justice and

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the Catechism of Trent. So I think it's more like

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trend Horn is much more appropriate.

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Speaker 6: We believe in a god who rules the universe, who

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is on the throne, who used Gideon's three hundred men

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to defeat an army of thousands, who used David to

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defeat a giant, who says trust not in horses and chariots.

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Speaker 2: But okay, whatever, dude, all right now he's going to

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get to me and why I'm a bad person.

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Speaker 1: Do as Christians is abusively attack or insult those we

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disagree with.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so a rabbid, vicious, Marxist, con man, activist, black

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fake bishop. You guys all know that the black, fake

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activist people get in on a grift like Reverend Al Shopton,

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REVERESSA Jackson.

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Speaker 3: They're not even actual preachers, they're just activists. Everybody knows this.

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Speaker 2: Well, guess what bishop, whatever his name is, Tildos Winton

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is one of those publicly rabbit.

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Speaker 3: So Trent's more concerned with tone policing.

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Speaker 2: A funny, ridiculous joke calling out his fake apostolic claims.

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Speaker 3: You've put a pussle respect on Monday. Give me a break, dude,

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you're a Al Sharpton huckster.

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Speaker 2: But according to Trent Horn, you shouldn't even have that

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kind of a joke about a huckster.

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Speaker 3: A fit.

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Speaker 2: His own church thinks this guy's a fake bishop. But

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this is all he could find to try to say

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that I'm a bad Christian because I made a joke

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about ridiculous fraud person.

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Speaker 1: You can use blunt language to call someone out for

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being dumb, evil, or both, but there are clear cases

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where the language goes to fun bro.

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Speaker 7: Don't hurt the feelings of the Blacktavists. How dare you

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hurt the feelings of a Blacktivist? How dare you call

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me Bishop Tilda Swinton? Puss a respect on that name?

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Speaker 1: Name are and just makes Christians look bad? For example,

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callol philosopher Trent Doherty has profanely lashed out his opponents,

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since you have teamed up with a.

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Speaker 2: Oh so at least some final admission of a Roman

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Catholic who did something wrong.

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Speaker 3: This is finally sexual atheist to defend your theology. That's

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that's a piece of move you.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, and even threatened to beat them up. Do

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you have you do you have any boxing experience or

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or do you want to? When Jay Dyer was on

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Piers Morgan, he repeatedly mocked Pentecostal I let Talbert Swan

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by calling him till the swing Bishop.

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Speaker 3: You pust so respect on that name, Trent Horn. Listen

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to me, Trent Horn, you better pus a respect on

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that name. It's bishop.

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Speaker 2: By the way, isn't Trent not respecting him? But by

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not calling him Bishop.

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Speaker 1: Tilda Swinton Winton the name of a Hollywood actress.

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Speaker 3: It's the same logic that this guy has in terms

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of his liberation. Talbert Swan, my name is now my

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name is Bishop Tarver Trent.

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Speaker 2: He's not a real bishop. He's a con man. He's

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a fraud, and it was funny to call him Tilda Swinton.

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Speaker 8: This guy, you've been dealing with me in a very disrespectful.

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Speaker 3: Excuse me, Bishop till.

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Speaker 1: Sam Schmuon is also frequently.

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Speaker 2: Everybody knows that ship was funny, dude, Just like when

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I called the two gaytheists gaytheists. Millions of people thought

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that was funny from the clips they got, millions of yews.

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Speaker 3: This is ridiculous.

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Speaker 2: And by the way, Trent, I'll send you some of

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the worst stuff, because that's not even.

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Speaker 3: The bad stuff for me. That's actually funny stuff.

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Speaker 2: I'll try to find you some clip where I actually

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made a mistake. Trying to think when did I actually

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get mad, as it's been a long time since I

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really just lashed out and got.

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Speaker 3: Mad on the stream.

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Speaker 1: Uh, I don't even know when insulted his critics.

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Speaker 9: The stupid fat cow. Oh here's while your mother being

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her she h pluster to it in Iran shut to

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help you stupid buster, do you stupid dump?

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Speaker 2: So this is a perfect time to give a shout

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out to the number one most not craziest Roman calic apologists,

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your boy Sam Shamouon.

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Speaker 3: And we're gonna play a little bit of a musical

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interlude just to take a little bit of a break

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because I'm gonna go t t to the girls room.

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Then we're gonna open it up for some calls. So

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here's a little bit of Sam Shamoon Marie for you

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guys while I go te te tam show Moon. That's

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actually good word though, by the way.

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Speaker 2: I wonder maybe what we should have We should have

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Trent set up a congregation for the morals of Internet discourse.

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Speaker 3: Right the papacy has their holy office, we need.

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Speaker 2: Trent heading up a holy office of appropriate public moral

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statements for commentators. I think he would do the best.

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He's certainly the most moral of all of us. Clearly

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he's demonstrated out beyond a shadow of a doubt in

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these videos.

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Speaker 3: We need you at the head of the.

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Speaker 2: Congregation for the Holy Office of moral public commentary because

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we're all lost without the moral compass that is Trent Horn.

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So thank you Trent for calling attention to this. I

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definitely want you to be the Inquisitor General for Internet discourse.

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No one else could be more moral in that position.

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So we're gonna have to see Trent, do you approve

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of this video making fun of Sam Shamoon or have

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I once again fallen into the sad moral abyss that

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is Jay Dyer and toxic uh Orthobrodoxy.

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Speaker 10: You.

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Speaker 8: Sam's Moon on the dance floor, Sam's move, He's had

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dance clove, He's single, He's got a little bit of dust.

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Speaker 3: On his shoulder because he can't clean up his nasty

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as cat apartment. Sam Shi Moon is on the dance book.

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Ladies orbs, Oh it welcome, He's dance with Shut up.

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I've got moves, moves moves.

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Speaker 8: All you pretty orbs on the dance floor, moves up

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tonight are your gay horse on the dance floor, I.

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Speaker 3: See a horse long tonight. Dick Shapley, orbs come and

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dance with Sam single hometown your mom too. He's got

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man boots. He can relate to you. Sam show boots

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on the dance floor. To night, All you orbs on

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the floor Tonight, Night's night. Every ord on the dance floor.

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Speaker 8: Bluta with the se of to night, every orb on

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the dance floor, Bluta with the shee of to night.

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Speaker 11: Do the sam shovel sam shovel tonight, muta would it's

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on the dance floor.

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Speaker 3: The dance Oh this is just morally reprehensible.

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Speaker 2: I cannot believe anyone would dare to try to make

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these kinds of jokes. Absolutely morally reprehensible. Anyway, I hope

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that we can get the Holy Office for uh moral

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Internet discourse going, and I nominate Trent Horn to be inquisitor.

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Speaker 3: In general, I can't think of anybody more moral. So

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but there we go. If you want to watch the

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rest of that, it is of course at my channel

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right here now. Guys, remember we are on a streaming explosion.

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Speaker 2: We are going stream crazy because guess what you get tonight,

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you get more toxic masculinity after this stream as I

501
00:30:22,599 --> 00:30:24,880
go live with the One and the Only.

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Speaker 3: Little Aides. Yes, I'm talking about Tristana herself or z

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self zimself. Tristana zimself will be making a return immediately

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after the stream streaming with me. You got me right,

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You've heard it right? What you actually talked?

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Speaker 2: Tristana zimself coming out of retirement for a stream I did,

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I did, and immediately after the stream, we will be live.

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I am on a stream explosion tour that sounds weird

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and grows. But uh, let's finish Trent's video here and

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then we will listen to his Epstein video and see

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where that goes.

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Speaker 9: Let me tell you why, David, You're a stupid, fat bastard.

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You're too much of a narcissistic, sociopathic scum.

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Speaker 2: Because, by the way, how did Sam on what basis

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did Trent decide to bleep in the previous video of

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the word shit but then not bleep all of scam sham?

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Who's like again, it's funny to me, Like, what, where's

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Trent's line between the words that are the bad words

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and then the words that are not bad words that

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you don't bleep out?

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Speaker 3: Again, this is just funny to me.

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Speaker 9: The Bible is busy talking about your mother being a whore.

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Speaker 3: Your mother's a whore.

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Speaker 9: You're a bastard, you're a feminine queer, you're gay, and

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Satan's proud of you because.

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Speaker 3: You're a muta with the SA. Tonight, every orb on

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the dance floor, dance dance.

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Speaker 1: Dance San sham Shamu or Satan you stupid or Thankfully November,

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Sam asked for prayers to stop swim and claim the

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insult your mother is a whore? Yeah right, or was

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a metaphor for his opponents being children of the horror

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of Babylon.

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Speaker 3: I have to give credit. That's actually funny. That's actually funny.

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Speaker 2: I mean, Sam Chuan is absolutely batshit crazy, but that's

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actually fun I mean, I'm literally he's insane, but that's funny.

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Speaker 1: Not a statement about his opponent's mother's literal sexual history.

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It seems like Sam won't use that language in the future,

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and I hope he doesn't because most.

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Speaker 3: People he must be joking. Trent surely right.

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Speaker 2: I love the grace extended by Trent to one of

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the absolute worst people out there, scam Shamou. Funny how

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nobody else gets that same grace extended that he extends

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to the one of the absolute worst offenders of what

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he's critiquing in this video. There's no one on the

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Internet worse than Sam Chamou when it comes to this topic,

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and it's amazing the level of grace that trans granting

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to scam Shamou. But I don't really detect that with

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the Ortho Bros or anyone else.

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Speaker 1: People would take what he said as a literal insult

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and not a metaphor about their own sinfulness. When Jesus

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insulted people, he accurately described them as hypocrites or evil.

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Speaker 2: He was no, wait a minute, So now we're getting

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to the when you can, according to Trent, do accurate insults.

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Speaker 3: So interesting, So as long as it's accurate.

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Speaker 2: So if you are in fact effeminate and soy mentally, Trent,

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because I'm sure you do work out, you don't seem

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to be physically weak.

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Speaker 3: I don't know, but.

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Speaker 2: It's also mental weakness that I think we're talking about here,

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and it kind of cowardice when it comes to things

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like challenges on specific topics like the geopolitics of the papacy,

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that kind of stuff. Like then I guess I'm off

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the hook, right, because if I make fun of Talbot

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Swan because he's not actually a bishop anymore than Tilda

565
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Swinton as a bishop, then my jokes are get a

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free pass.

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Speaker 1: Right exposing their sin to lead them to repentance. Jesus

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didn't just abuse people for his own amusement or for

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clicks or to get out sinful wrath and anger. However,

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some terminally online people will say, you can be a

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good Christian and still go scorched earth on your opponents

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because Jesus whipped the money changers in the temple. But

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the Bible doesn't say Jesus whipped anyone. John two fourteenth

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fifteen says in the temple he found those who were

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selling oxen and sheep and pigeons and the money changes

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at their business, and making a whip of cords, he

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drove them all with the sheep and oxen out of

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the temple, and he poured out the coins of the

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money changers and overturned their tables. Jesus is described as

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overturning the tables after the money changers left the temple,

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not throwing tables on top of them, and the clause

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he drove them all with the sheep and oxen out

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of the temple isn't the best translation to this passage.

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Speaker 2: So essentially, Jesus formed a whip that he didn't use.

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I mean, this is the absertity of this weird twisting

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of the text. Like, so he formed a whip, drove

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them out, and just held the whip, Like obviously it's

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saying that he drove them out with the whip.

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Speaker 1: I mean, this is kind of ridiculous because the common

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Greek words for with are not in this part of

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the passage. The passage literally says, and having made a

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whip of cords, all he drove out from the temple,

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both sheep and oxen.

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Speaker 2: This is so stupid, man, these people are like I've

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noticed too, Trent is a going back even to the

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original debate. What Trent does is creative explanation. When there's

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a problem or a challenge, Trent goes to immediately concocting

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a way to make it work. Which is why you

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would have said, if you remember to the original challenge

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about the death penalty, there's three different ways you might

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could make this work. What why do we need three

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different ways to make what your system claims gives us

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certitude about faith and morals, and the death penalty is

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obviously a very pertinent issue of morals and ethics. Why

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would we need three different ways to make it work

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to interpret the death penalty contradiction in the Roman Catholic system. Well,

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in this system, kazeustry is what gets you to the top.

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In other words, the best people at making it work,

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coming up with creative new terms, neologisms, ideas, just like

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scholasticism is all about, and a lot of Roman Catholic absurdity,

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especially if you get into Saint alfonsas Saint alfonsis Laguary

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and for example his many clarifications on when and how

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you can lie with righteous deception. Now I don't even

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have a problem with there are some biblical examples of

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righteous deception, but the problem is that you can take

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that and make it a Pandora's box, as did happen

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in many Catholic instances in Roman Catholic history with assassinations,

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which he said we shouldn't assassinate.

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Speaker 3: Are you sure about that?

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Speaker 2: Because your own Vatican had standing armies in the past,

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So I'm pretty sure the standing armies engaged in assassinating people,

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Trent Horn. So does that mean that the Vatican violated

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fundamental moral teachings when it had standing armies and assassinated people.

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And doesn't everyone know that during the Counter Reformation there

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were Catholic assassins.

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Speaker 3: I'm sure Trent Horn would say that happened. We're not

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justifying it.

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Speaker 2: Wait a minute, it happened at the Vatican though, with

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standing armies. So it's not a question of did they

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do it and.

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Speaker 3: Is it justified? It's a question of why was the

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Vatican's moral teaching when they had standing armies or in

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the crusades, that you could die in the crusade for

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the papacy a moral teaching that has now changed. That's

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the argument, you liar.

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Speaker 1: And of the money changers, he poured out the coins

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and the tables he overthrew before the Council of Nicia.

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Only Origin commented on this verse, and he said the

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whipping was a spiritual lesson, not an historical event.

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Speaker 2: Of course, he would go to the gayest commentator who

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castrated himself, perfect exegesis for Trent Horn himself also presumably castrated.

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Speaker 1: Because if Jesus really did whip people, it would reveal

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a reckless, lawless spirit incompatible with Christ. Virtue argued in

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the Journal of Biblical Literature that the Greek grammar of

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John Tusa.

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Speaker 3: Now he's going into papers on did Jesus act with Trent?

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Are you well?

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Speaker 2: Actually, Trent's not even aware that it's Jesus that's going

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before the Israelites into battle. Exodus twenty three because Trent

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is a heretic and doesn't realize that the Old Testament

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teaches the Trinity, which he explicitly denied in our debate.

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The Angel of the Lord is the person of the Sun.

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The Angel of the Lord accompanies them on their journeys

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and their battles in the Old Testament, so he doesn't

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even realize the Old Testament teaches.

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Speaker 3: Jesus went into battle, and he's concerned with making John two,

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through a bunch of random ass papers, not say that

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Jesus formed a coret. Okay, well, it doesn't even matter

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because he went into freaking battle, you idiot.

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Speaker 1: Fifteen refers to Jesus using a whip to make the

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cattle leave, not the people. This conclusion is also reached

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in the article violence, nonviolence, and the Temple Incident in

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John two thirteen through fifteen, which notes that over sixteen

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reveals Jesus didn't recklessly overturn tables, but was measured to

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not harm the cage doves.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I'm confused.

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Speaker 2: Does he think that Christianity is pacifist? I'm absolutely confused here,

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because I mean fundamental Old Testament theology that understands that

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Jesus is the Angel of the Lord.

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Speaker 3: Clear as day.

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Speaker 2: This is why he again, by the way you understand,

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you guys, he's tripled down to still say that the

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term triad is an anti Trinitarian term. He still says

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this again as a Eastern Catholic Liturgy attendee Trent, where

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his own Eastern liturgy uses the word triad for the Trinity,

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he still triples, quadruples down that it's an aryan anti

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Trinitarian term.

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Speaker 3: This is so stupid it should end his career, and

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all of you ignorant run and Catholics who don't even

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know this still push his nonsense.

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Speaker 2: This is devastating to his whole Biblical theology. The Old

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Testament Angel of the Lord, as we have shown in

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countless debates with the Muslims, is Jesus clear as day.

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Even his own crazy Roman Cathoic apologist Sam Shamun has

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banked his career last twenty years.

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Speaker 3: On that debating the Muslims.

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Speaker 2: But why would we think Trent would understand that when

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he literally quadruples down that Muslims and Christians worship the

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same God.

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Speaker 3: The very idiotic position of Trent Doherty and Vatican too.

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This is the root of the problem.

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Speaker 2: Trent is a heretic, and heretics are the worst moral

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offenders because the heretic prefers his own beliefs and decisions

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and opinions to divine revelation. That's the great er sin

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than the F word or even touching butts. Heresy in

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Christian theology and classic Batristic morals is a worse sin

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than sodomy. You, as a heresy arc are destroying souls.

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Sodomy destroys butts and bodies and one or two souls.

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Heresy destroys many people's souls. And Trent Horn is a heretic.

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He is absolutely heterox. Why do I say that just

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to be mean no, Because after multiple corrections on fundamental terms,

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including that the word triad is used in his own

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00:42:42,199 --> 00:42:46,840
liturgy for the Trinity, he has quadrupled down that it

704
00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:50,159
is not an Orthodox term and it's heterodox.

705
00:42:50,360 --> 00:42:51,639
Speaker 3: This is mind blowing to me.

706
00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:56,119
Speaker 2: He doesn't even know the Greek term for trinity, and

707
00:42:56,280 --> 00:43:00,159
he's a Catholic apologist, but he also doesn't know the

708
00:43:00,280 --> 00:43:03,760
doctrine of the Trinity as a Catholic apologist, as none

709
00:43:04,000 --> 00:43:09,239
of the Catholic apologists actually do because they teach heterodoxy.

710
00:43:09,800 --> 00:43:13,239
So apart from all the moral posturing and all the

711
00:43:13,559 --> 00:43:15,800
smoke and mirrors and the whining and the crying and

712
00:43:15,840 --> 00:43:21,320
the effeminacy, the root is not loving and caring about

713
00:43:21,360 --> 00:43:24,639
what's true first and foremost. That is the root problem

714
00:43:24,679 --> 00:43:29,519
of all this, and other factors might be the reasons

715
00:43:29,559 --> 00:43:33,519
why he wouldn't do that, namely the effeminacy, the cowardice,

716
00:43:36,159 --> 00:43:41,920
the intentional deceiving and doubling, quadrupling, t sextuppling down on

717
00:43:42,360 --> 00:43:46,239
obvious mistakes. Again, all of this would have probably gone

718
00:43:46,320 --> 00:43:50,119
in a much better direction if three two three years ago,

719
00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:52,880
Trent Horde has simply said, you know what, Jay, you're

720
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:58,719
actually correct. Triad is a basic theological term for the Trinity.

721
00:44:00,159 --> 00:44:03,159
You know what, Jay, You're actually correct. The Church fathers,

722
00:44:03,599 --> 00:44:08,119
from Justin Martyr debating Tripho all the way to Saint

723
00:44:08,199 --> 00:44:13,119
Maximus explicitly teach that the Old Testament God is the Trinity,

724
00:44:13,519 --> 00:44:16,920
and that the Old Testament saints loved, worshiped, and knew

725
00:44:17,039 --> 00:44:21,119
the Trinity. As Saint Maximus explicitly says about Abraham, Abraham

726
00:44:21,199 --> 00:44:27,559
worshiped the Triad. Trent explicitly says he did not. That

727
00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:30,960
is the root of the problem heresy. So this has

728
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:36,679
led to a person idolizing this institution sunken cost fallacy

729
00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:39,880
that he's wrapped up in, causing him then to adopt

730
00:44:40,119 --> 00:44:44,159
multiple preless delusion layers, when the root of it is

731
00:44:44,559 --> 00:44:48,519
cowardice and inability to admit that you got something wrong

732
00:44:49,079 --> 00:44:52,199
if he could go back and admit error. But you

733
00:44:52,360 --> 00:44:56,480
notice Trent has never admitted that he's ever gotten anything wrong. Now,

734
00:44:56,840 --> 00:44:58,639
maybe at some point in a video he has I

735
00:44:58,679 --> 00:45:02,159
don't watch Trent or content except when we reply when

736
00:45:02,199 --> 00:45:04,480
he talks about us, So I don't know if there's

737
00:45:04,519 --> 00:45:05,960
some place where he says, oh, yes, you know what

738
00:45:06,039 --> 00:45:08,559
this theological thing I was totally wrong about and I

739
00:45:08,639 --> 00:45:13,039
have been corrected. Trent is unable to receive correction. And

740
00:45:13,280 --> 00:45:17,320
in proverbs, a person who secs tuples down unable to

741
00:45:17,360 --> 00:45:20,719
receive any correction is a fool. And Trent has been

742
00:45:20,760 --> 00:45:25,639
made a fool theologically speaking, and even by his own

743
00:45:25,760 --> 00:45:30,840
actions and his own standards and tests of masculinity and

744
00:45:31,039 --> 00:45:34,679
morality and what's appropriate in terms of jokes. He's refuted

745
00:45:34,760 --> 00:45:38,800
himself here It says, I send my angel before you.

746
00:45:42,280 --> 00:45:48,840
The Angel will go before you to bring in Amorites, Hittites, Parizites, Canaanites,

747
00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,719
and Hipbtes. This is the same angel that pardons sins.

748
00:45:53,679 --> 00:45:57,360
Do created angelic beings have the authority and the ability

749
00:45:57,480 --> 00:45:59,880
to pardon sins. No, only God can forgive sins, as

750
00:46:00,039 --> 00:46:03,119
Jesus says to the Pharisees. So that means that the

751
00:46:03,239 --> 00:46:05,480
angel of the Lord here is Jesus.

752
00:46:06,280 --> 00:46:07,039
Speaker 3: He's divine.

753
00:46:07,679 --> 00:46:11,280
Speaker 2: That refutes Trent's heresy about the Old Testament, and it's

754
00:46:11,400 --> 00:46:16,199
Jesus going into battle to fight the Amorites, the hit Sites,

755
00:46:16,239 --> 00:46:19,320
the Parasites, and Kenonides. Now, Trent probably don't even know that.

756
00:46:19,840 --> 00:46:22,079
I bet you he wasn't even aware that Exos twenty

757
00:46:22,119 --> 00:46:27,199
three says this because he's stuck defending a pacifist Jesus

758
00:46:27,280 --> 00:46:29,800
from John two with the whip and the cords. What

759
00:46:29,960 --> 00:46:32,320
does that even matter if he went into battle against

760
00:46:32,320 --> 00:46:40,320
the Canaanites. This is so preposterous, This is so insane.

761
00:46:42,960 --> 00:46:45,519
I can't believe that we're even having to argue this point.

762
00:46:47,079 --> 00:46:49,239
And this is why I've constantly harped on the fact

763
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:51,320
that tren Horne is absolutely low tier.

764
00:46:51,400 --> 00:46:52,519
Speaker 3: He's super low tier.

765
00:46:55,079 --> 00:46:59,320
Speaker 2: And again, what's the worst enemy of these people is themselves.

766
00:47:00,400 --> 00:47:03,599
Trent could have made a lot of progress understanding the

767
00:47:03,679 --> 00:47:07,039
theology at a lot deeper level, more sophisticated level, especially

768
00:47:07,079 --> 00:47:07,639
with the Trinity.

769
00:47:08,159 --> 00:47:09,760
Speaker 3: But did he choose to do that. He chose to

770
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:10,800
quadruple down.

771
00:47:10,920 --> 00:47:12,960
Speaker 2: He chose to not look at any of the books

772
00:47:13,000 --> 00:47:16,519
that I've recommended or suggested him, including Eastern Church fathers

773
00:47:16,559 --> 00:47:22,000
and their theology, because had he looked at even the basics,

774
00:47:23,119 --> 00:47:27,519
what is Palamas's book called the Triads? He doesn't even

775
00:47:27,559 --> 00:47:29,639
know that Palamas's book was called I showed him this.

776
00:47:30,320 --> 00:47:32,199
He still says it's an anti Trinitarian term.

777
00:47:32,280 --> 00:47:36,280
Speaker 3: This is insane to me. It's like, right there in

778
00:47:36,360 --> 00:47:40,079
your face, you're wrong on a very obvious basic point.

779
00:47:40,239 --> 00:47:44,199
And he has quadrupled and sex doubled down. That is

780
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:44,880
the problem.

781
00:47:45,440 --> 00:47:50,159
Speaker 2: The pride, the inability to admit even a single mistake.

782
00:47:50,559 --> 00:47:53,960
That is narcissistic pride, which he ordered to be taken away.

783
00:47:54,519 --> 00:47:57,079
Jesus also didn't hurt the cattle because the makeshift rope

784
00:47:57,119 --> 00:47:59,559
would have simply gotten them to move in the animal's

785
00:47:59,639 --> 00:48:02,079
movement and would have caused the money changers to follow them.

786
00:48:02,119 --> 00:48:06,639
Speaker 3: Out of the temple, the animals. This is so retarded,

787
00:48:06,920 --> 00:48:09,239
This is ridiculous. Okay, now here we go.

788
00:48:09,519 --> 00:48:14,559
Speaker 12: Oh, they're all trying to get kind of ideologically capture

789
00:48:14,960 --> 00:48:18,159
these different audience segments. So he sent out to capture

790
00:48:18,199 --> 00:48:21,000
ned Flanders, and ned Flanders is exactly what he captured.

791
00:48:22,079 --> 00:48:24,119
Speaker 3: So can we say and that's accurate? Right?

792
00:48:24,159 --> 00:48:31,320
Speaker 2: I mean Trent did capture the absolute normy tier numbers audience.

793
00:48:32,079 --> 00:48:36,199
But again there's a problem with the numbers normy tier stuff.

794
00:48:36,920 --> 00:48:41,679
They're also very fickle and they're also very bad. Right,

795
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:45,519
So would you rather have By the way, Trent cited

796
00:48:45,800 --> 00:48:49,199
Joel Berry saying that, like Gideon, it's better to have

797
00:48:49,280 --> 00:48:53,559
three hundred committed people than a zillion lukewarm idiots who don't.

798
00:48:53,880 --> 00:48:58,079
Speaker 3: Care or aren't committed. So why would Trent then turn

799
00:48:58,119 --> 00:48:58,480
around and.

800
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:00,360
Speaker 2: Be like, well, I guess I want the biggest number,

801
00:49:00,440 --> 00:49:04,119
and thus I will be an ecumenist apologist as I'm

802
00:49:04,159 --> 00:49:10,480
a Vatican stooge, cope cover up artist. But don't call

803
00:49:10,559 --> 00:49:12,840
me ned Flanders, even though that's what I am.

804
00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:16,880
Speaker 3: Head alone seven for Chrisma. I think seven's fine, all right.

805
00:49:17,079 --> 00:49:20,599
Speaker 13: He is a very intelligent guy. He's very academic, very

806
00:49:20,679 --> 00:49:23,280
well read. I think he's very intelligent.

807
00:49:23,039 --> 00:49:26,360
Speaker 2: Set he's not actually academic and that well read though,

808
00:49:26,440 --> 00:49:29,239
because if you watch our debate on natural theology, that

809
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:30,719
actually gets shown to be the.

810
00:49:30,800 --> 00:49:33,559
Speaker 13: Case a nine, and then he engages in all sorts

811
00:49:33,559 --> 00:49:36,480
of really high level debates and always holds his own

812
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:38,480
I'd give him a nine for debate as well.

813
00:49:38,719 --> 00:49:40,039
Speaker 3: See I give him a ten on both.

814
00:49:40,320 --> 00:49:43,400
Speaker 1: First, the Simpsons has really betrayed Ned Flanders because in

815
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:45,400
the first seasons Ned was just a good one.

816
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:48,039
Speaker 3: My Gosh's he actually going to go into defending Ned.

817
00:49:48,360 --> 00:49:50,159
This is so gay, dude. And by the way, he

818
00:49:50,280 --> 00:49:52,800
left out the part that they put me about Trent,

819
00:49:52,840 --> 00:49:55,360
which I think probably made him mad tirade. Finally, how

820
00:49:55,400 --> 00:49:58,719
he's going to put the book publicly? I don't care

821
00:49:58,719 --> 00:49:59,480
about your book, dude.

822
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,880
Speaker 1: We should be careful of this instinct. Christians who agree

823
00:50:04,920 --> 00:50:07,320
on major moral issues should stand up for one another,

824
00:50:07,480 --> 00:50:09,599
and we should see ourselves as being on the same team.

825
00:50:10,079 --> 00:50:12,960
Speaker 2: But that would that include the three various ways to

826
00:50:13,079 --> 00:50:16,000
make the death penalty contradiction work? Like, what's the Christian

827
00:50:16,079 --> 00:50:17,159
position on that one?

828
00:50:17,639 --> 00:50:19,920
Speaker 1: It doesn't mean we should give each other a free pass,

829
00:50:20,039 --> 00:50:23,039
so we can always win. It's fair to point out

830
00:50:23,119 --> 00:50:26,639
how a fellow Christian is using an effective method, a

831
00:50:26,719 --> 00:50:29,400
bad method, or even an evil method to try to

832
00:50:29,400 --> 00:50:32,480
accomplish some good end. And we can, as Christians point

833
00:50:32,519 --> 00:50:36,559
that out without our disagreement becoming an attack on the

834
00:50:36,639 --> 00:50:37,159
other person.

835
00:50:37,440 --> 00:50:42,320
Speaker 3: That I mean, who actually wanted to go into defending

836
00:50:43,039 --> 00:50:43,320
the net.

837
00:50:43,400 --> 00:50:46,159
Speaker 2: I mean the ned Flanders thing was a joke, and

838
00:50:46,280 --> 00:50:49,400
Trent actually went into defending who ned Flanders is in

839
00:50:49,480 --> 00:50:52,280
the sensus. This is so retarded, Like, I guess that's

840
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,519
why the Bishop Tilda Swinton thing didn't resonate with him,

841
00:50:55,559 --> 00:50:59,039
because when I said this to him yesterday, he said,

842
00:51:00,599 --> 00:51:03,599
I didn't critique you for calling him a fake bishop.

843
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,000
Speaker 3: I critique you for calling him Tilda Swinton. Did you

844
00:51:07,079 --> 00:51:08,639
not get the joke? Dude?

845
00:51:08,679 --> 00:51:12,000
Speaker 1: You're such a nerd invites a vicious counterattacked. One way

846
00:51:12,039 --> 00:51:14,119
to do that is to privately reach out to the

847
00:51:14,119 --> 00:51:16,239
person we disagree with or ask.

848
00:51:16,280 --> 00:51:20,000
Speaker 3: Really, when have you ever done that? Never?

849
00:51:20,679 --> 00:51:24,599
Speaker 2: I've never had a private message from Trent Horn about

850
00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:29,599
any disagreement other than setting up our initial debate. Trent

851
00:51:29,760 --> 00:51:32,079
does not follow his own advice, and I'm sure that

852
00:51:32,199 --> 00:51:35,159
he would say you are too morally reprehensible for me

853
00:51:35,320 --> 00:51:37,840
to ever reach out and touch you or to talk

854
00:51:37,920 --> 00:51:40,920
to you, reach out and touch.

855
00:51:40,760 --> 00:51:44,400
Speaker 1: The one the person to review our public criticism of him,

856
00:51:44,639 --> 00:51:47,280
as I did with Andrew for this episode. Brian Holdsworth

857
00:51:47,360 --> 00:51:49,400
was a great model of this recently when instead of

858
00:51:49,440 --> 00:51:51,719
attacking a Catholic woman on TikTok who had a bad

859
00:51:51,760 --> 00:51:54,440
take on the liturgy, he privately reached out to her

860
00:51:54,719 --> 00:51:57,480
and then critiqued her position without publicly identifying her.

861
00:51:57,960 --> 00:52:01,559
Speaker 2: Well, let's see if Trent actually fall follow this advice. Okay,

862
00:52:01,800 --> 00:52:06,079
so again you heard him say right there, the appropriate

863
00:52:06,320 --> 00:52:11,480
moral stance is to reach out when there's a private

864
00:52:12,079 --> 00:52:16,280
personal disagreement. Let's look at the last emails that I

865
00:52:16,400 --> 00:52:20,239
have from Trent Horn, who obviously has had big issues

866
00:52:20,280 --> 00:52:24,920
with me over the last several years. 's take a

867
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:28,719
look at this, because Trent is actually showing that he's

868
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:33,400
deceptive and doesn't follow these policies. These are public consumption

869
00:52:33,599 --> 00:52:37,159
policies that he has absolutely no interest in actually following.

870
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:41,559
This is for you to think and to see performative piety.

871
00:52:42,159 --> 00:52:46,800
When in fact, Trent Horn's easily accessible emails to me,

872
00:52:47,000 --> 00:52:50,960
which clearly came through easily in twenty twenty one up

873
00:52:51,039 --> 00:52:56,360
to twenty twenty three, include no new email until twenty

874
00:52:56,440 --> 00:53:01,559
twenty two to twenty twenty three. So Trent Horn does

875
00:53:01,639 --> 00:53:05,280
not follow this advice. As you can see t hornet

876
00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:08,719
Catholic dot Com. No emails from Trent Horn about any

877
00:53:08,920 --> 00:53:13,880
personal issues, personal private disagreements, nothing whatsoever. And by the way,

878
00:53:14,239 --> 00:53:17,199
he could have also DMed me on Twitter because I

879
00:53:17,320 --> 00:53:21,440
blocked him yesterday, but he was never blocked prior to

880
00:53:21,559 --> 00:53:24,719
that as far as I recall, So he could have

881
00:53:24,800 --> 00:53:28,079
also messaged me on Twitter or any other social.

882
00:53:27,840 --> 00:53:30,559
Speaker 3: Media outlet which it's easy to actually get in contact

883
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:32,559
with me. Did he do any of that?

884
00:53:32,719 --> 00:53:37,039
Speaker 2: Absolutely not, nothing since twenty twenty three, if that is

885
00:53:37,159 --> 00:53:40,360
even a Trent thing, that might have just included him

886
00:53:40,400 --> 00:53:44,239
in a a CC or whatever. At least as far

887
00:53:44,280 --> 00:53:47,199
as I'm sure, twenty twenty two appears to be the

888
00:53:47,280 --> 00:53:51,599
last so four years since any personal reaching out on

889
00:53:51,679 --> 00:53:54,480
the part of Trent Horn, showing that he doesn't even

890
00:53:54,559 --> 00:53:58,559
follow this bullshit policy that he moralizes over. So this

891
00:53:58,840 --> 00:54:02,320
is public formative moralizing. And as I've told you, with

892
00:54:02,400 --> 00:54:05,280
these Roman Catholics all the time, they are a totally

893
00:54:05,320 --> 00:54:09,320
different person on the back side of things, dealing with

894
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:15,119
them on the public Internet, they're the nice guys. Dealing

895
00:54:15,199 --> 00:54:18,400
with them on the back end of things. They are absolute,

896
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,920
generally speaking, snakes. Now there's some exceptions. Tim Gordon has

897
00:54:23,000 --> 00:54:25,559
never done me wrong. Tim Gordon has never lied to me,

898
00:54:26,079 --> 00:54:32,239
never done anything deceptive, always been even in heated disagreements,

899
00:54:32,920 --> 00:54:34,039
very heated disagreements.

900
00:54:34,079 --> 00:54:36,599
Speaker 3: In our debates. We were still able to go out

901
00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:39,920
and eat dinner, still able to have good conversations. But

902
00:54:40,719 --> 00:54:42,519
the nice guys.

903
00:54:44,440 --> 00:54:51,039
Speaker 2: Zio conversion of Catholic apologetics youn Or laterally decided that

904
00:54:51,239 --> 00:54:53,599
I was a bad person, as well as Nick Fuentes,

905
00:54:53,679 --> 00:54:57,119
as well as Tim Gordon, apparently as well as Joe Enders,

906
00:54:57,159 --> 00:55:00,239
as well as all the other people that they having

907
00:55:00,239 --> 00:55:01,719
their little elite circle on. What do we see with

908
00:55:01,800 --> 00:55:06,039
his bff Matt frett Oh sold out to the Israeli Wire,

909
00:55:06,039 --> 00:55:06,760
I mean the Daily Wire.

910
00:55:06,840 --> 00:55:08,199
Speaker 3: Interesting interesting patterns there.

911
00:55:08,400 --> 00:55:11,199
Speaker 1: In contrast, Timothy Gordon and Joe Enders recently critiqued my

912
00:55:11,280 --> 00:55:15,199
colleague Joe Heshmeier and accused him of incompetently missing or

913
00:55:15,360 --> 00:55:19,079
deliberately hiding a papal quote that they claimed refuted his

914
00:55:19,199 --> 00:55:21,159
position on biblical headship and marriage.

915
00:55:21,320 --> 00:55:24,719
Speaker 3: I don't know if you're a poor researcher. I hope that.

916
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,079
I hope, you know, I hope, and I hope in

917
00:55:28,119 --> 00:55:28,639
all hopes.

918
00:55:28,840 --> 00:55:30,800
Speaker 14: Let me just put it that way, that Joe Hashmeier

919
00:55:30,880 --> 00:55:34,079
is this bad of a researcher because I'm citing the

920
00:55:34,280 --> 00:55:37,320
same paragraph that you cited for the right reason comment,

921
00:55:37,480 --> 00:55:39,039
the one that you took out of context.

922
00:55:39,199 --> 00:55:41,159
Speaker 1: But in Joe's response to them, he noted that he

923
00:55:41,320 --> 00:55:44,199
did include the full quote in his original episode and

924
00:55:44,320 --> 00:55:47,400
showed clips of Gordon admitting he didn't even watch Joe's

925
00:55:47,519 --> 00:55:50,559
entire twelve minute episode before launching into an hour long

926
00:55:50,639 --> 00:55:53,719
critique of it. Is there a better file or is

927
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:54,719
it this the only one?

928
00:55:54,840 --> 00:55:57,559
Speaker 3: I think that's the only one. I mean it, we'd

929
00:55:57,639 --> 00:55:59,840
have to find it there, because I think there's a

930
00:55:59,840 --> 00:56:02,320
lot longer clip of him talking about it somewhere. Yeah,

931
00:56:02,519 --> 00:56:05,360
a whole video. There's a whole video, but it's twelve minutes.

932
00:56:05,519 --> 00:56:08,840
Speaker 14: And then he spends most of his time mocking the

933
00:56:09,039 --> 00:56:11,880
south Pole, the feminist answer that I guess even Catholic

934
00:56:11,960 --> 00:56:14,280
answers has decided to repudiate.

935
00:56:14,360 --> 00:56:16,880
Speaker 4: Only he didn't notice the two things Tim says there. First,

936
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he's intentionally choosing not to engage with the actual argument

937
00:56:20,400 --> 00:56:22,360
I'm making. He's just gonna engage with the sound.

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Speaker 2: By the way, Joel Heschmeyer, if you will remember, will

939
00:56:25,800 --> 00:56:28,280
not debate me and backed out of debating Alex Soren

940
00:56:28,360 --> 00:56:31,480
another freddy cat coward.

941
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Speaker 4: Bite from it somebody put up on Twitter. And second,

942
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he's perfectly aware that the actual argument argues against a

943
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feminist rejection of mail headship. So he knows all that,

944
00:56:41,880 --> 00:56:45,760
But how does he title his video? Catholic answers? Says feminism? Okay,

945
00:56:46,039 --> 00:56:47,360
none is that anyway?

946
00:56:47,360 --> 00:56:50,360
Speaker 3: I don't. This is their inter Catholic dispute. Let's get

947
00:56:50,400 --> 00:56:51,519
on over here quickly to.

948
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Speaker 2: Get to Trent's cope about Epstein and the Vatican. I'm

949
00:56:56,440 --> 00:56:59,199
looking forward to this because I want to see the

950
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creative of explanations in Kazustry. And perhaps Tremp will give

951
00:57:03,480 --> 00:57:06,920
us four or five options as to how we can

952
00:57:07,800 --> 00:57:11,360
creatively explain the relationship. Or perhaps I'm sure there's no

953
00:57:11,519 --> 00:57:14,320
relationship and this is all conspiracy nonsense.

954
00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:17,719
Speaker 3: But remember this is a Normy who still denies that

955
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there's any push for globalization or a new world order.

956
00:57:21,199 --> 00:57:24,039
He's quadrupled down on this, which tells you right away

957
00:57:24,760 --> 00:57:28,960
he's a fraud. He pushes the establishment positions on everything

958
00:57:29,039 --> 00:57:33,000
back to Stabby's masks, all of that. I'm still a

959
00:57:33,039 --> 00:57:36,360
bad person because I was right about all that. But

960
00:57:36,480 --> 00:57:40,360
I'm still bad even though Trent can't admit that he's

961
00:57:40,400 --> 00:57:43,360
ever gotten anything wrong. That's the root of this issue.

962
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Speaker 2: So let's listen to why jeff Stay McCaffrey and the

963
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Vatican is a nothing burger.

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Speaker 1: Apparently long in the targets of lured conspiracy theories. In

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today's episode, we're going to refute three of the silliest ones.

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Speaker 3: So it's lurid conspiracy theories.

967
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Speaker 1: Interesting with a recent conspiracy that's been shared on social media.

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Number one, the pop John Paul the Second Jeffrey Epstein connection.

969
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In the way of the recent release of material from

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the Epstein files, some people claim Pope sint John Paul

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the Second was involved in Jeffrey Epstein's sex trafficking ands

972
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like this picture is evidence, this ex user writes, Jeffrey

973
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Epstein and just laying Maxwell being personally blessed by the

974
00:58:07,079 --> 00:58:09,800
Pope interesting, But they raised eyebrow, does not an argument

975
00:58:09,880 --> 00:58:11,760
make the Pope blesses thousands of people every year, and

976
00:58:11,880 --> 00:58:13,559
he doesn't do a background check on each of them beforehand.

977
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How other people point into this email?

978
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Speaker 3: Excuse me? That is not the extent of this argument.

979
00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:28,599
Speaker 2: Now, he chose apparently a idiotic, retarded conspiracy outlet that

980
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doesn't do much fact checking and just kind of puts

981
00:58:31,280 --> 00:58:33,599
out the salacious headlines.

982
00:58:34,360 --> 00:58:49,159
Speaker 3: But the argument was that one of the emails from

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00:58:49,199 --> 00:59:05,840
an associate of Epstein, I I hate that the freaking

984
00:59:05,920 --> 00:59:12,159
bookmark search just doesn't even work. Man, that's sonoint. We're

985
00:59:12,199 --> 00:59:13,679
gonna show you what it actually says.

986
00:59:24,239 --> 00:59:24,599
Speaker 12: Mhm.

987
00:59:28,320 --> 00:59:29,760
Speaker 2: He might not be able to read that. See if

988
00:59:29,760 --> 00:59:35,159
I can find a bigger version of it. By the way,

989
00:59:35,239 --> 00:59:37,159
I'm gonna bet you money, I haven't seen this video yet.

990
00:59:37,159 --> 00:59:39,519
I'll bet you money. He doesn't even mention the Vatican

991
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:44,000
Bank email because that shows an intimate knowledge of something

992
00:59:44,039 --> 00:59:47,360
that also points to knowledge and relationship of John Paul

993
00:59:47,400 --> 00:59:54,719
the second. So, by the way, uh, here's a discussion

994
00:59:54,760 --> 01:00:00,280
between Bannon and Epstein about quote infiltrating the Vatic So

995
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:05,360
this tells us that there was a discussion about attempting

996
01:00:05,440 --> 01:00:09,079
to get in, make friends, make connections.

997
01:00:10,199 --> 01:00:14,480
Speaker 3: Steve is working for the quote purification of the Church.

998
01:00:16,519 --> 01:00:19,400
Speaker 2: This is some viazo woman or person talking to Epstein

999
01:00:20,039 --> 01:00:21,360
talking about praying for the pope.

1000
01:00:21,480 --> 01:00:23,760
Speaker 3: I don't think Epstein cares about your prayers for the pope.

1001
01:00:23,840 --> 01:00:33,719
Speaker 2: But uh, Epstein says, prawn, And then Bannon says, we will,

1002
01:00:33,920 --> 01:00:35,000
we will take down.

1003
01:00:34,960 --> 01:00:40,119
Speaker 3: Francis the Clintons Z and Francis uh.

1004
01:00:40,239 --> 01:00:40,719
Speaker 6: And then.

1005
01:00:42,440 --> 01:00:44,360
Speaker 3: Epstein says it CoV I don't know what that is.

1006
01:00:44,480 --> 01:00:47,360
And then Bannon says in the closet of the Vatican, which,

1007
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:49,360
as of course, if you may or may not know.

1008
01:00:49,480 --> 01:00:52,199
Speaker 2: But Bannon over the last several years made it a

1009
01:00:52,239 --> 01:00:54,920
point to try to get closer and closer to a

1010
01:00:55,039 --> 01:00:58,400
lot of cardinals and prelates. Now let's look at this email.

1011
01:00:58,679 --> 01:01:02,559
What it actually says says that this is an associate

1012
01:01:02,599 --> 01:01:05,960
who comes up quite often. In the email's Richard Kahn,

1013
01:01:06,199 --> 01:01:09,000
and it talks about in the past. Okay, so this

1014
01:01:09,119 --> 01:01:12,320
email's from twenty fifteen, and it says, in the past,

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01:01:13,000 --> 01:01:15,079
jeff Stein mceffrey, let me make it big for you guys.

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01:01:17,079 --> 01:01:19,519
Speaker 3: That's what she said in the past.

1017
01:01:21,079 --> 01:01:24,039
Speaker 2: Jeffrey spent time at the Vatican quote living at it

1018
01:01:24,480 --> 01:01:29,599
with John Paul. The second discussing architectural things like columns

1019
01:01:30,119 --> 01:01:34,000
because they had a shared interest in architecture. So this

1020
01:01:34,119 --> 01:01:38,559
is a twenty fifteen email discussing the past, meaning that

1021
01:01:40,039 --> 01:01:46,159
it's not just a blessing, but it fits with the

1022
01:01:46,320 --> 01:01:51,599
timeframe of this circa two thousand and three blessing. So yes,

1023
01:01:51,880 --> 01:01:56,679
this is obviously a public meeting and blessing, but it's

1024
01:01:56,760 --> 01:01:59,880
the same time frame that the email is reflecting back

1025
01:02:00,079 --> 01:02:08,360
and saying they spent time there. There is another email

1026
01:02:08,519 --> 01:02:14,840
talking about arranging flights for Francis.

1027
01:02:15,840 --> 01:02:28,199
Speaker 3: Pope Francis. Let me see it because I saved all

1028
01:02:28,239 --> 01:02:49,679
these I just had to find them. Here we see,

1029
01:02:50,960 --> 01:02:53,840
I'm trying to organize a trip for Francis to the

1030
01:02:53,880 --> 01:02:57,360
Middle East. Why is he organizing a trip for Pope

1031
01:02:57,360 --> 01:03:01,039
Francis first of all to the Middle East? So there's

1032
01:03:01,079 --> 01:03:09,480
another email about Epstein. Excuse me an admission that Epstein

1033
01:03:09,800 --> 01:03:13,880
donated significant money to Catholic charities and Roman Catholics are

1034
01:03:14,039 --> 01:03:17,480
lying when they say there's no connection between Catholic charities

1035
01:03:17,480 --> 01:03:19,880
and the Catholic Church. There absolutely is is a total lie.

1036
01:03:20,360 --> 01:03:24,000
Speaker 2: In fact, the US Conference for Catholic Bishops have publicly

1037
01:03:24,079 --> 01:03:26,800
stated that they support the opposition to ice and the

1038
01:03:26,920 --> 01:03:31,679
bringing in of all manner of undocumented immigrants because quote, no,

1039
01:03:31,760 --> 01:03:32,480
one isn't.

1040
01:03:32,280 --> 01:03:33,719
Speaker 3: Illegal, that's what they say.

1041
01:03:34,400 --> 01:03:36,559
Speaker 2: So let's scroll down and I'm going to show you

1042
01:03:37,079 --> 01:03:43,599
that and the statement about Epstein saying I was also

1043
01:03:43,840 --> 01:03:48,480
gifted architectural works from John Paul. The second that also

1044
01:03:49,079 --> 01:03:53,360
reconfirms the likelihood that the earlier emails and story about

1045
01:03:53,400 --> 01:03:56,559
living at the Vatican discussing architecture are very likely true.

1046
01:04:03,280 --> 01:04:04,320
Speaker 3: Now you can look this up.

1047
01:04:04,360 --> 01:04:06,199
Speaker 2: We've already done it, cleed that a whole stream on this.

1048
01:04:06,800 --> 01:04:10,159
You can scroll back and find this as well. It's everywhere,

1049
01:04:10,239 --> 01:04:14,559
by the way, online, all over Twitter. Just just taking

1050
01:04:14,599 --> 01:04:16,519
me a minute to find it because it's there's so

1051
01:04:16,679 --> 01:04:18,000
much stuff that's been coming out.

1052
01:04:21,360 --> 01:04:21,880
Speaker 3: Let's see.

1053
01:04:33,199 --> 01:04:35,079
Speaker 2: I apologize for not having this pulled up because I

1054
01:04:35,119 --> 01:04:37,320
didn't really know where Trent was going to go in

1055
01:04:37,400 --> 01:04:46,280
this discussion. But we're gonna debunk the easy stuff first.

1056
01:04:46,079 --> 01:04:47,960
Speaker 3: And see if he has anything substantial going on.

1057
01:04:49,760 --> 01:04:54,039
Speaker 2: But how come Trent isn't talking about Epstein funding all

1058
01:04:54,159 --> 01:04:55,039
kinds of crazy stuff?

1059
01:04:55,079 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 3: Does he?

1060
01:04:55,440 --> 01:04:57,960
Speaker 2: We'll see, maybe he will. Maybe we can give Trent

1061
01:04:58,000 --> 01:04:59,360
the benefit of the doubt. Maybe we'll talk about it.

1062
01:04:59,440 --> 01:05:01,960
I don't expected to happen though.

1063
01:05:02,639 --> 01:05:07,280
Speaker 3: Oh, here we go, Jeffrey, all went, well, any chance

1064
01:05:07,320 --> 01:05:09,519
that you could arrange for us to meet the pope?

1065
01:05:11,119 --> 01:05:12,199
This is twenty fifteen.

1066
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:15,920
Speaker 2: Why are people asking Jeffrey Epstein to arrange a meeting

1067
01:05:16,000 --> 01:05:19,320
with the pope if there's no connection and Epstein doesn't

1068
01:05:19,360 --> 01:05:21,239
have the ability to meet with the pope or set

1069
01:05:21,280 --> 01:05:22,119
these kinds of things up.

1070
01:05:22,280 --> 01:05:23,840
Speaker 3: So that's another I forgot that one.

1071
01:05:23,880 --> 01:05:40,719
Speaker 2: Actually, yes, this is life site. Jeffrey Epstein donated critical

1072
01:05:40,800 --> 01:05:45,599
funds to Catholic Charities of the Virgin Islands. Interesting and

1073
01:05:45,719 --> 01:05:48,000
as Cleve points out, where are the Virgin Islands? Oh,

1074
01:05:48,039 --> 01:05:54,039
they're right next to Little Saint James. No, but remember

1075
01:05:54,159 --> 01:05:56,920
there's nothing here, nothing to see. This is all nothing. Now,

1076
01:05:57,519 --> 01:06:01,440
why would we think that the Roman Caolic Church might

1077
01:06:01,559 --> 01:06:03,800
have a hand in this, or that Catholic Charities might

1078
01:06:03,920 --> 01:06:07,679
be connected to the Roman Caolic Church and the hierarchy. Well,

1079
01:06:07,760 --> 01:06:12,519
how about the bishop saying that they support this whole methodology?

1080
01:06:13,159 --> 01:06:18,519
Cardinal Kupit and Cardinal Tobin say, reject ice. Stand with Minnesota.

1081
01:06:19,440 --> 01:06:25,159
This is your organized crime cult church working to destroy

1082
01:06:26,119 --> 01:06:30,880
by open illegal activities and actions. This is illegal to

1083
01:06:31,039 --> 01:06:35,039
support the importation of massive third worlders who.

1084
01:06:35,000 --> 01:06:36,920
Speaker 3: Are not legal people. This is a crime.

1085
01:06:37,840 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 2: These people are public criminals. They're organized crime criminal goblins,

1086
01:06:43,880 --> 01:06:47,159
and Trent Horne is their apologist. That's why I said

1087
01:06:47,199 --> 01:06:50,119
he is trash, because he is. He is a trash

1088
01:06:50,239 --> 01:07:08,119
person supporting these trash He's the defender of these trash. Now,

1089
01:07:08,199 --> 01:07:13,880
this is another Catholic website. This is an FBI crisis report,

1090
01:07:15,000 --> 01:07:19,440
and it notes that Epstein had talked about and again

1091
01:07:19,519 --> 01:07:21,599
this may be false, but it's just another piece of

1092
01:07:21,679 --> 01:07:27,280
corroborating evidence. It says Epstein talked about the ceiling that

1093
01:07:27,440 --> 01:07:30,400
he had which had been donated to him by the Pope.

1094
01:07:31,000 --> 01:07:34,480
And this is presumably back in This Is two thousand

1095
01:07:34,480 --> 01:07:36,400
and four, Epstein claimed that the two thousand and four

1096
01:07:36,480 --> 01:07:39,119
ceiling in his elevator at his New York mansion was

1097
01:07:39,239 --> 01:07:42,199
gifted by the Pope. Now, what is the commonality here

1098
01:07:42,400 --> 01:07:46,719
with John Paul the Second Well architecture? And so, while

1099
01:07:46,760 --> 01:07:50,719
this may not be true, or perhaps Epstein made this

1100
01:07:50,880 --> 01:07:55,440
up or was trying to sound cool, it does vibe

1101
01:07:55,599 --> 01:07:58,800
with the earlier statement in the other email that he

1102
01:07:59,000 --> 01:08:03,400
was very interested in talking architectural oddities with John Paul

1103
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,360
the Second So it does make sense that he would

1104
01:08:06,400 --> 01:08:07,320
be gifted.

1105
01:08:09,760 --> 01:08:12,039
Speaker 3: Something like that, So let's see where Trent takes it.

1106
01:08:12,079 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: One of Epstein's assistant or associates saying that Epstein lived

1107
01:08:14,280 --> 01:08:15,880
at the Vatican with Pope joh Paul the Second, implying

1108
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:18,079
with the pop knew about Epstein's activities. First, people have

1109
01:08:18,199 --> 01:08:19,800
lived with even serial killers and not even known what

1110
01:08:19,800 --> 01:08:21,319
they were doing. So it's not surprising if some bad

1111
01:08:21,319 --> 01:08:23,159
people lived Vatican City and the Pope never knew about

1112
01:08:23,159 --> 01:08:24,960
they were doing. But the evidence that Epstee himself lived

1113
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:26,479
at the Vatican is as flimsy as the evidence that

1114
01:08:26,520 --> 01:08:28,880
Epstein unlive himself. Any email from twenty fifteen, ten years

1115
01:08:28,920 --> 01:08:30,720
after John Paul the Second died, some kind of contractor

1116
01:08:30,720 --> 01:08:32,279
says he's trying to paint columns and different styles for

1117
01:08:32,279 --> 01:08:33,920
Epstein and writes the following, he wants me to finish

1118
01:08:33,960 --> 01:08:35,439
each column different as when he was living with Pope

1119
01:08:35,479 --> 01:08:37,000
John Paul the Second in Vatican, he looked at a

1120
01:08:37,039 --> 01:08:38,880
variety of different columns captured in wars. He told me

1121
01:08:38,960 --> 01:08:40,439
that every pope demanded to have a column from every

1122
01:08:40,439 --> 01:08:42,640
conquered country. So there's a collection of different columns in Vatican.

1123
01:08:42,680 --> 01:08:44,439
But there is no collection of columns that the pope

1124
01:08:44,439 --> 01:08:46,520
acquired after conquering different territories, so this is probably just

1125
01:08:46,520 --> 01:08:48,880
a jumbled recollection of something a Roman tour guide told

1126
01:08:48,920 --> 01:08:50,439
Epstein when he was in Rome in two thousand and three,

1127
01:08:50,479 --> 01:08:51,920
when John Paul the Second bless him, and then he

1128
01:08:51,960 --> 01:08:54,079
told this restoration specialist about it ten years later. Now

1129
01:08:54,159 --> 01:08:55,039
John Paul the Second does.

1130
01:08:55,359 --> 01:09:01,479
Speaker 2: Now remember the Vatican has a its own securities, and

1131
01:09:01,760 --> 01:09:04,239
this is admitted, this is well known. There's a Vatican

1132
01:09:04,359 --> 01:09:08,520
secret service, and to get close to the Pope requires

1133
01:09:08,840 --> 01:09:11,920
some degree of background check. I don't think that's controversial,

1134
01:09:13,680 --> 01:09:16,279
and you can verify that that's maybe they shouldn't be

1135
01:09:16,279 --> 01:09:18,880
that controversial, But according to Trent, no, they're actually just

1136
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,359
kind of hanging out there up there with the Pope

1137
01:09:21,399 --> 01:09:25,640
without any security or check. But how does that job

1138
01:09:25,760 --> 01:09:27,840
when you think about the fact that this is not

1139
01:09:28,000 --> 01:09:39,319
the only international PDF criminal who was close to the

1140
01:09:39,399 --> 01:09:43,359
pope and even was given a prestigious honor of.

1141
01:09:43,399 --> 01:09:44,720
Speaker 3: A papal knighthood.

1142
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:48,279
Speaker 2: Papal knighted is a prestigious honor bestowed by the Pope

1143
01:09:48,359 --> 01:09:49,600
as that of the Catholic Church.

1144
01:09:49,880 --> 01:09:51,960
Speaker 3: For outstanding service to the Church.

1145
01:09:52,359 --> 01:09:57,359
Speaker 2: Society or charitable acts, and who got that from John

1146
01:09:57,439 --> 01:10:02,439
Paul the Second Again, another notorious person covering up PDF stuff.

1147
01:10:03,159 --> 01:10:14,399
Jimmy Savell, the infamous necrophiliac, Satanist procure trafficker, disgraced broadcaster

1148
01:10:16,079 --> 01:10:22,479
given the papal knighthood by John Paul the Second. Now again, Trent,

1149
01:10:22,520 --> 01:10:24,359
what have you believed that? Or they just maybe there's

1150
01:10:24,399 --> 01:10:26,199
hand these out like they're just like candy, right, they're

1151
01:10:26,199 --> 01:10:27,960
giving these out of the Vatican. If you go, you

1152
01:10:28,000 --> 01:10:29,840
know you're a pilgrim and I've been to the Vatican,

1153
01:10:29,920 --> 01:10:32,079
you kind of walk through in that line. They're just

1154
01:10:32,159 --> 01:10:35,760
kind of hand and out they're tossing out papal knighthoods.

1155
01:10:37,119 --> 01:10:40,760
Speaker 3: Did they do a background check on this demon, Trent?

1156
01:10:42,640 --> 01:10:48,000
Or perhaps the Vatican Security Service was absolutely just asleep

1157
01:10:48,079 --> 01:10:48,960
at the wheel that day.

1158
01:10:49,039 --> 01:10:51,119
Speaker 2: They didn't do a background check on Jimmy Savell and

1159
01:10:51,159 --> 01:10:55,399
they just accidentally gave him a papal knighthood, one of

1160
01:10:55,520 --> 01:10:59,399
the worst Satanic criminals in modern history?

1161
01:11:01,920 --> 01:11:04,359
Speaker 3: Did Trent even know this? Does he even talk about this?

1162
01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,600
Speaker 2: And by the way, they've said they cannot reverse this,

1163
01:11:06,800 --> 01:11:10,720
They will not reverse the papal knighthood to this monster

1164
01:11:17,640 --> 01:11:21,920
papal honor cannot be removed. Oh yeah, it does it

1165
01:11:22,079 --> 01:11:29,039
matter if you're an actual demon PDF trafficking goblin. You

1166
01:11:29,159 --> 01:11:34,880
can't lose that papal prerogative and that special gift. I

1167
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wonder if Trent's gonna mention Jimmy Savell in his very

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close connection to John Paul the Second, The supposed saint,

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01:11:43,039 --> 01:11:45,760
the PDF cover up artist of the Romanchellay.

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Speaker 1: Church share some blame for the clergy abuse crisis in

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01:11:47,239 --> 01:11:48,760
mccack scandal. Part of this was due to the pope

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01:11:48,800 --> 01:11:51,039
having endured the Soviet occupation of Poland, where communists would

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01:11:51,079 --> 01:11:52,920
use slander and lies to target people. So if someone

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01:11:52,960 --> 01:11:55,199
like McCarrick denied allegations against him, John Paul the Second

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01:11:55,239 --> 01:11:57,319
was more likely to imprudently believe these denials. But if

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you think a literal saint was actively involved in the

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01:11:59,439 --> 01:12:01,439
sexual abuse of because there is a picture of him

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01:12:01,479 --> 01:12:03,279
meeting one of the perpetrators at a public ceremony, then

1179
01:12:03,319 --> 01:12:04,479
you need to log off the Internet and go see

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01:12:04,520 --> 01:12:05,920
Jesus at church for hard reset number.

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01:12:06,439 --> 01:12:09,680
Speaker 2: Trent, it's not just that there's a connection to Epstein,

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01:12:09,760 --> 01:12:14,039
it's the other emails talking about the close connection that

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01:12:14,199 --> 01:12:18,840
Epstein has to the Vatican, including arranging flights and meetings

1184
01:12:18,960 --> 01:12:23,560
for Francis. So you cleverly left all of that out

1185
01:12:24,800 --> 01:12:28,239
of your cope session here, and you made no mention

1186
01:12:28,439 --> 01:12:33,840
of other notorious PDFs who clearly have a deep connection

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01:12:34,279 --> 01:12:37,560
to John Paul the Second. And notice his argument, if

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01:12:37,600 --> 01:12:40,760
you think that a saint would do this, you're crazy.

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Speaker 3: Well, maybe he's not a saint. Maybe the system that

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you are worshiping is actually a lie. That's the point.

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If we're correct, we can make sense of this data.

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Speaker 2: John Paul the Second is part of this international click pushing.

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01:12:59,000 --> 01:12:59,840
Speaker 3: What kind of stuff?

1194
01:13:00,560 --> 01:13:03,479
Speaker 2: I wonder if there's any other indicators that might suggest

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01:13:03,880 --> 01:13:09,000
John Paul the Second has another agenda, such as praying

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01:13:09,079 --> 01:13:17,720
in the synagogues and the mosques, like the Darcy O'Brien

1197
01:13:17,760 --> 01:13:20,079
book talks about. Now, I'm going to go into a

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domain that Tim Gordon and Ned Flanders have no knowledge

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of and we'll probably absolutely not talk about.

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Speaker 3: And that's the Massade. And why would I talk about that?

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01:13:33,279 --> 01:13:40,479
Speaker 2: Well, obviously anybody who's had scratching surface level analysis of

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01:13:40,800 --> 01:13:44,159
what's going on with the Vatican and Epstein and all

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01:13:44,279 --> 01:13:49,479
that would know that clearly Epstein has that layer of connection.

1204
01:13:50,319 --> 01:13:53,680
But what hardly anybody has any knowledge of, and the

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01:13:53,800 --> 01:13:57,279
only book I've actually seen discussing it at a serious

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01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:03,279
level is the journalist and intelligence writer Gordon Thomas. Now

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01:14:03,359 --> 01:14:05,720
Gordon Thomas is you could say, well he's a journalist,

1208
01:14:05,760 --> 01:14:07,720
but he's a conspiracy as well. Fine, whatever, But his

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01:14:07,880 --> 01:14:11,039
books are main line journalism. They've been New York Times

1210
01:14:11,159 --> 01:14:14,520
bestseller type books. Right, so we're not talking about, you know,

1211
01:14:16,119 --> 01:14:19,760
vigilance citizen dot com book here, We're talking about mainline

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01:14:20,920 --> 01:14:24,239
Accurate nineteen ninety nine.

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Speaker 3: Gideon Spies.

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Speaker 2: I read this most of this book many years ago,

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01:14:31,000 --> 01:14:32,960
and then kind of got back into it because I

1216
01:14:33,000 --> 01:14:35,079
started thinking, wait a minute, actually, well, a lot of

1217
01:14:35,159 --> 01:14:39,760
what's going on with John Paul the Second and the

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01:14:39,840 --> 01:14:43,600
relationship to the Jews seems to tie into what Gideon

1219
01:14:43,640 --> 01:14:45,640
Spies writes about, because it's actually a couple of chapters

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01:14:45,680 --> 01:14:48,960
about John Paul the Second in Israel and particularly the massade.

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01:14:49,720 --> 01:14:53,640
Guess what, all of the information in Gideon Spies vibes

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01:14:54,239 --> 01:14:57,439
perfectly with what we've seen in the Epstein files. Now

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01:14:57,920 --> 01:15:01,479
it's under John Paul the Second that the nation State

1224
01:15:01,520 --> 01:15:03,159
of Israel achieves.

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01:15:02,880 --> 01:15:05,680
Speaker 3: Official recognition by the Vatican. Why is that?

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Speaker 2: Well, according to Gideon Thomas, it's because Masad was not

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01:15:10,119 --> 01:15:11,560
just bugging.

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01:15:11,439 --> 01:15:12,760
Speaker 3: Or trying to bug the Vatican.

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01:15:12,800 --> 01:15:17,560
Speaker 2: They were actively operating and working to infiltrate and work

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01:15:17,720 --> 01:15:23,439
inside the Vatican and get mole spies, et cetera. Interesting

1231
01:15:24,199 --> 01:15:28,680
who in this same timeframe, although maybe not in the

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01:15:28,760 --> 01:15:32,520
nineteen eighties or nineties, but who in the late nineties.

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01:15:33,760 --> 01:15:36,439
Speaker 3: Is making connections with the Vatican for the massage?

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Speaker 2: Oh, Jeffrey Epstein, Now do you think Trent Horne has

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01:15:41,000 --> 01:15:42,840
any knowledge of this subject? Do you think he will

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01:15:42,920 --> 01:15:46,159
ever even glance at a book like this? Absolutely not.

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01:15:47,000 --> 01:15:50,720
Speaker 3: So this is where these frauds, hucksters and cover up

1238
01:15:50,800 --> 01:15:51,760
shills will never go.

1239
01:15:52,760 --> 01:15:54,920
Speaker 2: Even though this isn't even a conspiracy book, It's a

1240
01:15:55,119 --> 01:16:02,000
main line journalist, geopolitical analyst text spies and you can

1241
01:16:02,079 --> 01:16:04,560
go just look up if you are lazy and you

1242
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,199
can't read, just look up the summary of the AI

1243
01:16:08,279 --> 01:16:10,479
summary or something like that of the chapters and the

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01:16:10,520 --> 01:16:12,800
sections on John Paul the Second's relationship to the massade

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and to the recognition of Israel.

1246
01:16:15,920 --> 01:16:19,960
Speaker 1: Argument attacking her isn't even an ad two. Jack Chick's

1247
01:16:19,960 --> 01:16:22,239
fanatic thief for dreams. Jack Chick was a fundamentalist Baptist

1248
01:16:22,239 --> 01:16:23,960
cartoonist whose tracks are probably the most widely now.

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01:16:24,039 --> 01:16:26,640
Speaker 2: This was Trent's original joke about me. He thought it

1250
01:16:26,680 --> 01:16:30,439
was really funny to say that my take on everything

1251
01:16:30,960 --> 01:16:34,000
was Jack Chick. Jay Dyer's the new Jack Chick.

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01:16:34,000 --> 01:16:36,319
Speaker 3: It was like his first joke. Not even that good

1253
01:16:36,359 --> 01:16:38,880
of a joke, but that really bothering me. We had

1254
01:16:38,880 --> 01:16:41,159
our debate. I didn't care about that stupid joke. But

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01:16:41,640 --> 01:16:42,800
I want you guys to notice that.

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01:16:44,279 --> 01:16:46,399
Speaker 2: What we've done on this channel, and I think people

1257
01:16:46,439 --> 01:16:49,079
are beginning to recognize this and figure it out, is

1258
01:16:49,640 --> 01:16:52,560
we started a series ten years ago that wasn't my

1259
01:16:52,680 --> 01:16:56,479
first foray into this topic, but it was my first

1260
01:16:57,000 --> 01:17:01,319
idea to do a series starting with the writings of

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01:17:01,479 --> 01:17:05,399
the power elite themselves, what do they admit in their books?

1262
01:17:05,479 --> 01:17:08,039
And we called it the Global Elite Book Series. We

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01:17:08,159 --> 01:17:11,199
began with Tragedy and Hope, which is a twelve thirteen

1264
01:17:11,279 --> 01:17:14,640
hundred page book written by doctor Carrol Quigley, a Council

1265
01:17:14,680 --> 01:17:18,000
on Foreign Relations archivist and historian military story and who

1266
01:17:18,119 --> 01:17:21,359
was the mentor to Bill Clinton, so a very important figure.

1267
01:17:21,680 --> 01:17:24,560
Not the top of the pyramid, but an apologist and

1268
01:17:24,560 --> 01:17:29,680
a historian for our Western globalist elite. That was the

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01:17:29,840 --> 01:17:33,439
beginning of the Global Elite series. Since that time ten

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01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,720
years ago, we branched out into reading dozens of global

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01:17:36,760 --> 01:17:41,079
elite texts which admit and prove everything that we talk about,

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01:17:42,000 --> 01:17:45,279
including changing images a man, including is the Big New

1273
01:17:45,319 --> 01:17:50,319
Bberzinski's books, including David Rockefeller's memoirs, and books including jacque

1274
01:17:50,319 --> 01:17:55,600
Attalie's books including H. G. Wells's books including bertrand Russell's books,

1275
01:17:56,279 --> 01:18:01,920
including hosts of other fabian socialist geopolitical analysts, top level elites,

1276
01:18:02,399 --> 01:18:07,279
Joseph Nye, soft Power, Halford mckinder, Heartland, Rimland theory, stuff,

1277
01:18:07,680 --> 01:18:11,479
on and on and on to explain ad nauseum with

1278
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:19,359
absolute spurgitude exactitude, that everything we're saying is documented and real.

1279
01:18:20,319 --> 01:18:23,119
I don't talk about aliens, I don't believe in fringe,

1280
01:18:23,159 --> 01:18:27,199
retarded tartaria stuff. I only focus on what I could

1281
01:18:27,279 --> 01:18:31,000
prove to you from the books, because I was impressed

1282
01:18:31,079 --> 01:18:32,199
when Alex Jones.

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01:18:31,960 --> 01:18:35,520
Speaker 3: Did that years ago. Alex would always say this is

1284
01:18:35,560 --> 01:18:38,000
in this book, this is in that book. And when

1285
01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:40,079
I first heard him say that, I was skeptical. I

1286
01:18:40,119 --> 01:18:42,600
thought they don't admit all that. That's too crazy. No,

1287
01:18:42,720 --> 01:18:44,520
they do, absolutely they do.

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01:18:44,800 --> 01:18:46,720
Speaker 2: In fact, it's not just those big policy book it's

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01:18:46,760 --> 01:18:51,439
also white papers. We've read extensive white papers. We've read

1290
01:18:51,800 --> 01:18:55,199
hundreds of pages of texts on DARPA and the Ring Corporation.

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01:18:55,760 --> 01:18:58,640
Who else has done that? Now you've got Burmas, Yes,

1292
01:18:58,680 --> 01:19:02,159
you've got Richard Grove Corbett. They've done some stuff like that. Yes,

1293
01:19:02,239 --> 01:19:04,319
I'm not saying nobody else did that. Whitney Webb's done

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01:19:04,359 --> 01:19:04,640
some of that.

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01:19:04,760 --> 01:19:09,359
Speaker 3: Sure, But who else in the theology sphere has done that? Nobody,

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01:19:10,079 --> 01:19:10,439
No one.

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01:19:11,479 --> 01:19:15,119
Speaker 2: Everything we talk about has some globally text you can

1298
01:19:15,199 --> 01:19:18,199
go look up. That's what's so annoying and frustrating to

1299
01:19:18,239 --> 01:19:21,239
me about people like Trent Horne, who are intelligent people.

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01:19:21,359 --> 01:19:24,720
Speaker 3: Trent's not as stupid person. That's not the problem. But

1301
01:19:25,600 --> 01:19:29,359
it wouldn't take you very long. Even if you don't

1302
01:19:29,399 --> 01:19:31,359
have the time to read all of these, which I

1303
01:19:31,439 --> 01:19:35,000
actually did, you could go listen to my talks. Look,

1304
01:19:35,520 --> 01:19:38,239
here's a talk on jacque Attelie's book from the nineteen

1305
01:19:38,319 --> 01:19:41,199
nineties about the New World Order. Who is jacque aed

1306
01:19:41,439 --> 01:19:42,640
So you don't even know who these people are.

1307
01:19:43,239 --> 01:19:46,239
Speaker 2: What about Miles Copeland, famous cioperative wrote a whole book

1308
01:19:46,279 --> 01:19:48,720
on how the CIA does everything in other countries gam nations.

1309
01:19:49,600 --> 01:19:55,720
I lectured on that ten years ago. What about the

1310
01:19:55,800 --> 01:19:59,520
history of the British Empire and Opium. Oh, we've lectured

1311
01:19:59,560 --> 01:19:59,880
on that too.

1312
01:20:00,359 --> 01:20:01,119
Speaker 3: What about Manley P.

1313
01:20:01,279 --> 01:20:01,439
Speaker 14: Hall?

1314
01:20:01,800 --> 01:20:07,039
Speaker 3: Hey, what about actually talking to top military operators and

1315
01:20:07,359 --> 01:20:11,920
Trump's choice for Director of National Intelligence, Colonel McGregor, who

1316
01:20:12,039 --> 01:20:13,920
basically vindicated my analysis of things.

1317
01:20:14,560 --> 01:20:17,119
Speaker 2: So wait a minute, I'm a crazy conspiracy theorist, but

1318
01:20:17,119 --> 01:20:19,920
I'm actually talking to the guy that Trump wanted to

1319
01:20:19,960 --> 01:20:22,119
be the director of National Intelligence the first harm.

1320
01:20:25,520 --> 01:20:28,279
Speaker 3: How would I do that? If I'm a retarded idiot,

1321
01:20:29,479 --> 01:20:31,479
If I don't actually read the books.

1322
01:20:33,560 --> 01:20:41,119
Speaker 2: Julian Huxley Philosophy and Esco, Terence McKenna's psychonat Works, Secret Dialects,

1323
01:20:41,159 --> 01:20:46,239
I think turning point by Freedom of Copra, Anglo American

1324
01:20:46,359 --> 01:20:49,279
Establishment two talks right there, history of the OSS, right there,

1325
01:20:50,159 --> 01:20:51,520
History of sexpionage right.

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01:20:51,439 --> 01:20:58,039
Speaker 3: There, Brave New World, on and on and on.

1327
01:21:00,840 --> 01:21:05,399
Speaker 2: More, hd Well's books, Razenski's books, Histories of the CIA,

1328
01:21:05,600 --> 01:21:06,720
Arthur Kessler's texts.

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01:21:07,000 --> 01:21:11,439
Speaker 3: I've read multiple, multiple Arthur Kessler books. We've lectured through them.

1330
01:21:11,920 --> 01:21:13,439
Speaker 2: These people don't read any of this stuff, they have

1331
01:21:13,560 --> 01:21:16,600
no knowledge of this, but they tell you that there

1332
01:21:16,760 --> 01:21:18,359
is no global conspiracy.

1333
01:21:18,399 --> 01:21:22,840
Speaker 3: There are liars. As Trent ever talked about.

1334
01:21:23,239 --> 01:21:26,199
Speaker 2: The Frankfurt School. I studied under a person of the

1335
01:21:26,239 --> 01:21:34,920
frank School. I've lectured on Frankfort School books, on and

1336
01:21:35,079 --> 01:21:46,039
on and on. Anyway, there's a whole series right there

1337
01:21:46,079 --> 01:21:51,159
for you. All Right, guys, we're going to be with

1338
01:21:51,239 --> 01:21:52,960
Tristan very soon, so let's see if you can get

1339
01:21:52,960 --> 01:21:53,640
through Trent.

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01:21:53,520 --> 01:21:55,680
Speaker 1: Really quicker publish comic series in the world. He's published

1341
01:21:55,680 --> 01:21:57,399
over a billion of these little things, over a hundred languages,

1342
01:21:57,479 --> 01:21:58,680
and all then basically say that if you don't accept

1343
01:21:58,760 --> 01:22:01,159
chicks particular theology, then iient faceless Jesus will send you

1344
01:22:01,159 --> 01:22:03,000
to hell. His most famous anti Catholic tracks include the

1345
01:22:03,000 --> 01:22:05,479
tastfully titled Death Cookie about Euchrist, why is Mary Crying?

1346
01:22:05,600 --> 01:22:08,039
And are Catholic Christians? Where Chick claims Catholics are automatically

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01:22:08,039 --> 01:22:09,880
citizens of the Holy See, which would be awesome because

1348
01:22:09,880 --> 01:22:11,279
if you have Vatican passport, you can visit over one

1349
01:22:11,319 --> 01:22:13,560
hundred fiftyntries not needing a visa. Of course that's not true,

1350
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,399
and these passports are only granted to people like cardinals

1351
01:22:15,439 --> 01:22:16,840
reside in Vatican City and of the diplomats.

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01:22:16,880 --> 01:22:17,960
Speaker 3: But the chickens, oh interesting.

1353
01:22:18,039 --> 01:22:22,039
Speaker 2: That again seems to suggest a unique intelligence agency connection

1354
01:22:22,159 --> 01:22:24,000
there with the Vatican, which again I bet you Trent

1355
01:22:24,079 --> 01:22:24,840
doesn't know anything about that.

1356
01:22:24,880 --> 01:22:27,119
Speaker 1: Siercys about Catholicism get even more ridiculous. In the nineteen

1357
01:22:27,159 --> 01:22:29,600
eighty Discontinue Track my Name in the Vatican, Chick claims that.

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01:22:29,600 --> 01:22:33,800
Speaker 3: Wait a minute, these conspiracies are ridiculous. Then Trent, it

1359
01:22:33,840 --> 01:22:34,800
should be pretty.

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01:22:34,520 --> 01:22:36,920
Speaker 2: Easy for you to actually come and debate this topic,

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01:22:37,079 --> 01:22:40,840
which you've declined three times. So Laura, let's remember what

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01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:47,359
Trent said to my challenge here. These subject matters, I

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01:22:47,439 --> 01:22:50,439
don't deal with this, I'm not I only dabble in this.

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Speaker 3: It's not a matter of research. Debate this with Tim Gordon.

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I only debate the papacy.

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Speaker 2: Okay, But you just said that these types of crazy

1367
01:23:00,439 --> 01:23:03,239
conspiracy theories about the Vatican, they're so preposterous.

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01:23:03,680 --> 01:23:08,079
Speaker 3: Well, shouldn't they be easy to refute? If they're ridiculous,

1369
01:23:08,159 --> 01:23:10,600
then you should be it should be an easy knockdown.

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Speaker 2: Ca Hey, look, you could totally put an end to

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Jay Dyer, right, or you could totally discredit diar on

1372
01:23:16,279 --> 01:23:18,279
these crazy conspiracy All you gotta do is just come

1373
01:23:18,680 --> 01:23:22,199
bring the Vatican heat with this Jack Chick level stuff.

1374
01:23:25,359 --> 01:23:28,359
But then, when actually challenged on that subject matter, what

1375
01:23:28,479 --> 01:23:29,439
you just said is ridiculous.

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01:23:30,720 --> 01:23:31,359
Speaker 3: I don't do that.

1377
01:23:31,560 --> 01:23:34,319
Speaker 2: It's out of my wheelhouse. Oh interesting, but it's ridiculous,

1378
01:23:34,359 --> 01:23:35,239
and you could easily refute it.

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01:23:35,399 --> 01:23:37,239
Speaker 1: Name of every Protestant in the world was in the

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01:23:37,319 --> 01:23:39,439
big computer in the Vatican. How did the Vatican get

1381
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the name of at the time, five hundred million Protestants

1382
01:23:41,000 --> 01:23:42,319
around the world, many of em all right, well, this

1383
01:23:42,439 --> 01:23:43,279
is jack chick stuff.

1384
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Speaker 2: As a retarded we're gonna skip all this. Let's see,

1385
01:23:45,319 --> 01:23:47,239
let's move on to something else. And then, guys, remember

1386
01:23:47,239 --> 01:23:49,199
we're gonna be live with Tristan right after this. We're

1387
01:23:49,199 --> 01:23:53,399
going to transition immediately into me and beautiful Tristana zim

1388
01:23:53,520 --> 01:23:57,279
self ze self will be joining me to cover the.

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Speaker 3: Toxic culture, the Epstein revelations. Where are we at Tristan's vacation,

1390
01:24:05,680 --> 01:24:08,239
shall we say? I think it was went to little

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Saint James.

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Speaker 2: They're somewhere in this the last year or so ah,

1393
01:24:11,319 --> 01:24:15,720
just kidding, Tristan's retirement and then early unretirement like share

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like a true diva coming back out of retirement to

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do a live streamer.

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Speaker 1: In a moment from churches that no one's even heard of,

1397
01:24:21,119 --> 01:24:22,960
who knows? And the track also says the Inquisition is

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01:24:23,000 --> 01:24:25,520
alive and well after killing sixty eight million people throughout

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history for heresy, which is a higher death.

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01:24:27,840 --> 01:24:34,600
Speaker 2: I mean Trent who actually takes the chick tracks seriously?

1401
01:24:34,720 --> 01:24:36,800
I mean, I guess this is directed at like low

1402
01:24:36,880 --> 01:24:39,600
tier fundamentalists. So I thought this was going to be

1403
01:24:39,640 --> 01:24:43,000
about Epstein, Like there was like two minutes passing over that.

1404
01:24:43,159 --> 01:24:45,199
So let's skip ahead, see if there's something else here,

1405
01:24:46,760 --> 01:24:49,479
the non secret thing that's the I remember, that's that's fake,

1406
01:24:49,560 --> 01:24:50,000
that's stupid.

1407
01:24:50,079 --> 01:24:50,800
Speaker 3: Let's see what this is.

1408
01:24:52,359 --> 01:24:54,600
Speaker 1: And number three silly Seventh Day Adventist conspiracies.

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01:24:55,039 --> 01:24:57,199
Speaker 2: This wasn't even about Epstein's They had one little cope

1410
01:24:58,279 --> 01:25:01,880
two minute thing, not even addressing the real emails and

1411
01:25:01,960 --> 01:25:09,279
the overall issue with again him talking about the architectural commonalities,

1412
01:25:09,840 --> 01:25:13,520
the planning the flights for Pote Francis, people asking him

1413
01:25:13,560 --> 01:25:16,600
to set up meetings of Pote Francis. Then we had

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01:25:16,720 --> 01:25:21,600
situation of Catholic charities getting Epstein money in a critical

1415
01:25:21,640 --> 01:25:27,359
amount quote unquote, we had the Savile scandal, which they

1416
01:25:27,399 --> 01:25:32,039
overlook and ignore as if there's not other creeps like

1417
01:25:32,199 --> 01:25:36,079
Savile connected all this. So we'll stop with the Trent

1418
01:25:36,159 --> 01:25:38,640
stuff there again, we may have more stuff in the future. Again,

1419
01:25:38,680 --> 01:25:41,479
you should go read about Jimmy Saville. He's a definitely

1420
01:25:41,479 --> 01:25:45,760
a great holy man, for sure. Definitely proves the case

1421
01:25:46,079 --> 01:25:49,880
for John Paul the Second Sanctity awarding the worst, one

1422
01:25:49,920 --> 01:25:52,439
of the worst people alive at that time with a

1423
01:25:52,840 --> 01:25:57,239
special papal honor. I'm gonna have to immediately though, kind.

1424
01:25:57,159 --> 01:25:59,680
Speaker 3: Of transition out you guys to Tristan.

1425
01:26:00,279 --> 01:26:02,199
Speaker 2: John, did you have a comment before we go and

1426
01:26:02,239 --> 01:26:04,319
start read the supertest and we'll move on over to

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01:26:04,520 --> 01:26:06,000
a beautiful Tristana with us.

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01:26:08,600 --> 01:26:10,279
Speaker 3: I you know, I've been.

1429
01:26:10,239 --> 01:26:14,880
Speaker 10: Listening the whole time. But the thing that bothered me earlier,

1430
01:26:15,560 --> 01:26:17,960
even before all of all of this, that you said

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01:26:18,319 --> 01:26:18,880
you said.

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01:26:18,800 --> 01:26:25,439
Speaker 2: Ship and that like I mean giant, giant child graping,

1433
01:26:26,119 --> 01:26:31,359
criminal international gangs for who said the word and the

1434
01:26:31,479 --> 01:26:32,359
sport right?

1435
01:26:33,520 --> 01:26:33,920
Speaker 3: That's right?

1436
01:26:35,000 --> 01:26:38,560
Speaker 10: Also, I am looking forward to hearing you and Tristan

1437
01:26:38,880 --> 01:26:41,399
talk together because I am a big fan of Tristan.

1438
01:26:42,560 --> 01:26:45,680
Speaker 2: I know you know this, yeah Tristana, Well it's it's

1439
01:26:45,720 --> 01:26:49,720
Tristana and and he z identifies as the himself now,

1440
01:26:49,840 --> 01:26:50,960
so just get that correct.

1441
01:26:51,560 --> 01:26:55,479
Speaker 10: Well well, also, you know it was funny and I

1442
01:26:55,600 --> 01:27:02,399
wanted to point this out, is the fake bishop till

1443
01:27:02,479 --> 01:27:08,079
the Swan he wasn't even as mad as Trent was

1444
01:27:09,520 --> 01:27:16,960
about about you making a conduct. He he like, this

1445
01:27:17,079 --> 01:27:19,760
whole thing got blown up. And then that dude, like,

1446
01:27:20,079 --> 01:27:22,359
I mean, at least he was mad enough in his

1447
01:27:22,800 --> 01:27:27,840
Marxist fake bishop, you know, existence he just let it go.

1448
01:27:27,960 --> 01:27:31,159
After a day, Trent Whin dug it up.

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01:27:33,079 --> 01:27:35,920
Speaker 3: And by the way, was one of the oddest things

1450
01:27:36,039 --> 01:27:42,119
to pick as the like what moral in fraction? It's weird. Yeah,

1451
01:27:42,199 --> 01:27:45,560
And he didn't even pick any more, you know, quote unquote.

1452
01:27:45,279 --> 01:27:48,720
Speaker 10: Moral in fractions against any fellow Roman Catholics. He picked

1453
01:27:48,760 --> 01:27:52,600
one against a Pentecostal Liberation theology preacher.

1454
01:27:53,199 --> 01:27:55,239
Speaker 2: No, the last one was Tim Gordon. So he did

1455
01:27:55,319 --> 01:28:00,000
critique Tim. Yeah, the last one, the last couple of minutes,

1456
01:28:00,039 --> 01:28:03,039
says Tim Gordon. I didn't hear that part, but yeah,

1457
01:28:03,199 --> 01:28:06,119
that's okay. I mean yeah, yeah, appreciate that comment. John,

1458
01:28:06,159 --> 01:28:08,000
that's funny. So let me breathe these really quick. Brandon

1459
01:28:08,079 --> 01:28:09,840
Lee twenty dollars. I haven't looked for any videos of

1460
01:28:09,880 --> 01:28:14,119
yours if you if you do, do you have any

1461
01:28:14,279 --> 01:28:17,560
funny paranormal stories. We did do a couple of paranormal streams.

1462
01:28:17,600 --> 01:28:19,439
You just have to assarch the archives for the live

1463
01:28:19,520 --> 01:28:22,760
streams on that. Thank you, Brandon Lee, just say eli

1464
01:28:22,880 --> 01:28:24,399
round twenty dollars. I made me ask you day to

1465
01:28:25,359 --> 01:28:29,720
to the Georgia guystones having to do with Epstein, who

1466
01:28:29,840 --> 01:28:31,680
destroyed them? Well, I don't know who destroyed them, but

1467
01:28:31,840 --> 01:28:33,600
I mean a lot of people think that it was

1468
01:28:33,760 --> 01:28:35,640
funded and put up by Ted Turner.

1469
01:28:36,359 --> 01:28:38,000
Speaker 3: And Ted Turner shares the.

1470
01:28:38,039 --> 01:28:42,399
Speaker 2: Same eugenics worldview of Epstein, because Epstein had that email

1471
01:28:42,479 --> 01:28:44,319
I think with Bill Gates or something, they're talking about

1472
01:28:44,439 --> 01:28:45,840
how can we get rid of all the poor people?

1473
01:28:46,319 --> 01:28:52,960
So yeah, that's the deepop eugenics worldview. Reginald Dankins five dollars.

1474
01:28:53,319 --> 01:28:56,880
This world looking Moro wind it's ashy as hell. The

1475
01:28:57,000 --> 01:28:59,680
Vatican ashy as hell. Vatican played too much, maybe play

1476
01:28:59,680 --> 01:29:00,239
too much much.

1477
01:29:00,800 --> 01:29:02,640
Speaker 3: Gorilla Biscuits was a forty Prus five dollars.

1478
01:29:02,720 --> 01:29:05,720
Speaker 2: Pokemon Go had a location at Epstein's Island. It was

1479
01:29:05,760 --> 01:29:08,119
a sun clock and it was removed. Interesting, I don't

1480
01:29:08,119 --> 01:29:08,880
know anything about.

1481
01:29:08,680 --> 01:29:10,640
Speaker 3: That, agro Tech twenty dollars.

1482
01:29:10,640 --> 01:29:12,479
Speaker 2: I grew up as a non an omistional Baptist, but

1483
01:29:12,960 --> 01:29:15,720
I've been agnostic for fifteen years. My value's lot with Christianity.

1484
01:29:15,760 --> 01:29:18,039
But do you know, I don't know how to reconcile

1485
01:29:18,159 --> 01:29:22,399
this supernatural? Do you have suggestions or advice? I'm not

1486
01:29:22,439 --> 01:29:24,359
sure what you mean by reconcile the supernatural? Do you

1487
01:29:24,439 --> 01:29:26,760
mean you struggle with that being the case? I mean

1488
01:29:26,760 --> 01:29:29,279
I would look into starting with our you know, tag

1489
01:29:29,399 --> 01:29:33,000
pre subpositional kind of argumentation, because really that question revolves

1490
01:29:33,079 --> 01:29:38,079
around pre subpositional worldview questions about what's possible and not possible,

1491
01:29:38,159 --> 01:29:41,359
and our assumptions about our worldview dictate how we're going

1492
01:29:41,399 --> 01:29:43,119
to interpret what's possible not possible.

1493
01:29:43,199 --> 01:29:47,359
Speaker 3: So look into the tag talks that we've done. Reginald,

1494
01:29:47,359 --> 01:29:48,640
what's up? Emilion, What's up? Dog?

1495
01:29:48,720 --> 01:29:51,000
Speaker 2: Twenty dollars support Jay Diary says, thank you so much.

1496
01:29:51,720 --> 01:29:53,880
Past at tempo to dollars. Pretty much new to this topic.

1497
01:29:54,760 --> 01:29:56,439
I've never met actual Catholics.

1498
01:29:56,520 --> 01:29:58,800
Speaker 3: Really, what do you mean all I see in my

1499
01:29:58,920 --> 01:30:01,640
country is a so you must be in like Latin

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01:30:01,640 --> 01:30:02,159
South America.

1501
01:30:02,399 --> 01:30:02,840
Speaker 13: This kind of.

1502
01:30:02,840 --> 01:30:07,079
Speaker 2: Content the Jeffrey Epstein podcasts have been great. At one point,

1503
01:30:07,800 --> 01:30:09,840
he says he wishes that he was a disease.

1504
01:30:09,920 --> 01:30:13,600
Speaker 3: Oh, I don't know. He said that. I think Prince are.

1505
01:30:15,000 --> 01:30:21,000
Speaker 2: What's his name, The Royal Prince Philip is famous for

1506
01:30:21,039 --> 01:30:22,840
saying that more than once. And I've dugged up those

1507
01:30:22,920 --> 01:30:25,920
quotes and clips. They're real, so but I didn't know

1508
01:30:26,560 --> 01:30:27,399
jeff Stein said that.

1509
01:30:28,800 --> 01:30:30,800
Speaker 3: Heart of personal story, what's up? Thank you for that.

1510
01:30:31,119 --> 01:30:32,239
Let's talk God fight dollars.

1511
01:30:32,399 --> 01:30:36,680
Speaker 2: Rome gave up the military, the Roman Callity Church gave

1512
01:30:36,760 --> 01:30:40,239
up its military, the cripple, the papal triple crown, and

1513
01:30:40,399 --> 01:30:42,560
they gave up the state religion in nineteen twenty nine

1514
01:30:42,640 --> 01:30:45,760
latter in treaty. By their logic, Roman Catholicism then fell

1515
01:30:45,880 --> 01:30:50,520
exactly exactly their own stupid argument about military victories proving

1516
01:30:50,600 --> 01:30:51,439
or just proving the religion.

1517
01:30:51,479 --> 01:30:53,720
Speaker 3: That means that they are no longer the true religion.

1518
01:30:54,279 --> 01:30:56,640
I guess that would make Islam the true religion.

1519
01:30:56,640 --> 01:30:59,439
Speaker 2: Then, on their basis not understanding how deep this goes.

1520
01:30:59,680 --> 01:31:01,760
Jeff Son loved the Vatican so much because he knew

1521
01:31:01,760 --> 01:31:03,359
it was the real true church.

1522
01:31:03,479 --> 01:31:05,520
Speaker 3: This is the Romancolic cope that I see. Yeah, this

1523
01:31:05,640 --> 01:31:06,960
is a classic Roman.

1524
01:31:06,800 --> 01:31:09,239
Speaker 2: Catholic cope that the more evil that you see within

1525
01:31:09,239 --> 01:31:11,920
the Roman Catholic Church actually proves it because Satan's targeting it.

1526
01:31:12,640 --> 01:31:15,199
So by that logic, the more wicked you are, the

1527
01:31:15,319 --> 01:31:17,920
more saintly you are. In fact, that was an actual

1528
01:31:18,000 --> 01:31:19,840
line of argument. If you remember who was the.

1529
01:31:20,119 --> 01:31:25,359
Speaker 3: Whirlwind, the gay dude You're caught up in the whirlwind

1530
01:31:25,960 --> 01:31:27,840
and everybody called that dude gay and then all the

1531
01:31:27,960 --> 01:31:29,960
Roman Catholics were like, oh do you? Oh, do you?

1532
01:31:30,000 --> 01:31:31,720
And then it came out he was gay and a

1533
01:31:31,760 --> 01:31:32,560
big gay scandal.

1534
01:31:33,239 --> 01:31:33,359
Speaker 10: Uh.

1535
01:31:34,119 --> 01:31:39,119
Speaker 3: What was that guy's name? Michael, Michael something, the Whirlwind

1536
01:31:41,399 --> 01:31:44,159
And this is always that, Like what are you talking about?

1537
01:31:44,720 --> 01:31:45,760
Speaker 1: I mean, even.

1538
01:31:47,560 --> 01:31:51,359
Speaker 3: Michael Voris, Michael Voris of the Whirlwind. Ahead I was.

1539
01:31:51,399 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 10: Gonna say, even the Saints, the Orthodoxy wouldn't necessarily agree,

1540
01:31:56,359 --> 01:31:59,600
would never ever advocate for.

1541
01:32:01,359 --> 01:32:06,600
Speaker 3: Skills. Yeah, absolutely, you think Catherine would add the cap

1542
01:32:06,640 --> 01:32:08,359
for skittles. Of course not.

1543
01:32:08,960 --> 01:32:10,399
Speaker 2: I mean they were still in an era when they

1544
01:32:10,439 --> 01:32:13,840
would explicitly say, like Pius the fifth does at Trent

1545
01:32:13,960 --> 01:32:19,279
that that's liable to death. I've saying I've posted this

1546
01:32:19,399 --> 01:32:23,439
like a million times. President retard twenty dollars. Tristana was

1547
01:32:23,479 --> 01:32:26,399
Matthew McConaughey's stunt double in the Dragon movie. Yes, in fact,

1548
01:32:26,439 --> 01:32:28,079
that was the first one to call that out and

1549
01:32:28,119 --> 01:32:31,159
spot that years ago. Freezing Entertainment fight dollars. You see

1550
01:32:31,199 --> 01:32:34,880
that the Vatican Bank had morning Star Equities. This seems

1551
01:32:34,880 --> 01:32:38,239
like a Vatican lucifer ethical investment. I don't know about that,

1552
01:32:38,359 --> 01:32:41,319
but I mean I do recall something like morning Star equities.

1553
01:32:41,560 --> 01:32:43,159
Speaker 3: I think that comes up in the Gladio stuff.

1554
01:32:43,840 --> 01:32:46,279
Speaker 2: But they had a lot of shell corporations in fronts

1555
01:32:46,399 --> 01:32:51,439
and the structure of the Vatican and Debrosio Bank stuff.

1556
01:32:51,760 --> 01:32:54,520
It's very similar to a lot of other scandals where

1557
01:32:54,520 --> 01:32:57,359
they create these cutouts and it makes it hard to

1558
01:32:57,479 --> 01:32:59,479
trace where the money's going because it's just a bunch

1559
01:32:59,479 --> 01:33:01,680
of fake company k nees and things in Costa Rica

1560
01:33:01,720 --> 01:33:05,520
and whatnot. Commentator a comment tour five dollars. First time

1561
01:33:05,600 --> 01:33:08,199
watching your stream instead of just listening, I thought you

1562
01:33:08,239 --> 01:33:11,439
were drinking water, not just doing crazy mouth noises.

1563
01:33:11,520 --> 01:33:13,840
Speaker 3: No, I'm doing alps by the way Alps. I think

1564
01:33:13,880 --> 01:33:16,560
they followed me, so maybe I'll get an ALP sponsorship.

1565
01:33:16,119 --> 01:33:21,960
Speaker 2: Nowmyb two dollars aren't most male feminist creeps. Yes, Actually,

1566
01:33:22,000 --> 01:33:24,880
Jordan Peterson's comment nailed it. He was absolutely spot on

1567
01:33:24,960 --> 01:33:29,279
there seven Martyrs, Jay Bird, you're on point with all

1568
01:33:29,319 --> 01:33:32,000
this hyper feminine Protestant churchmen.

1569
01:33:32,640 --> 01:33:33,479
Speaker 3: Tim Gordon is the.

1570
01:33:33,479 --> 01:33:36,760
Speaker 2: Only normal Roman Catholic dude that I've met. You know,

1571
01:33:36,840 --> 01:33:40,720
Anthony from Avoiding Bablon's a cool dude. Joe Enders seems

1572
01:33:40,720 --> 01:33:42,239
like a cool dude. I don't really know him personally,

1573
01:33:42,319 --> 01:33:45,439
but you know, we've had good conversations with those guys,

1574
01:33:45,520 --> 01:33:49,319
even with you know, the hemant to disagreements Fishy Filmore.

1575
01:33:49,359 --> 01:33:52,640
Two dollars orthos seem to be the only universal principalists.

1576
01:33:53,520 --> 01:33:56,359
I think you could probably make that argument only consistent ones, Eugene.

1577
01:33:56,439 --> 01:33:58,479
Five dollars, Jay is mean is not an argument? Well,

1578
01:33:58,520 --> 01:34:01,319
that's the easiest way out right, is to say, well,

1579
01:34:01,319 --> 01:34:04,239
I don't have to associate with the mean. It's also

1580
01:34:04,279 --> 01:34:06,680
the laziest taint enough And five dollars. Watched your interview

1581
01:34:06,720 --> 01:34:07,680
with Father Turbo today.

1582
01:34:07,680 --> 01:34:09,479
Speaker 3: It was really great. He always imparts great widom. Yeah,

1583
01:34:09,479 --> 01:34:11,600
I didn't expect that to be so kind of convicting.

1584
01:34:11,680 --> 01:34:13,359
Speaker 2: I went, I went into that thing, we're gonna talk

1585
01:34:13,359 --> 01:34:16,640
about Epstein and but actually it was all a very

1586
01:34:17,039 --> 01:34:19,439
you know, convicting spiritual conversation. So shout out to trister

1587
01:34:19,560 --> 01:34:23,319
by the way, Oh thank you, thank you. Yeah, he

1588
01:34:23,720 --> 01:34:26,039
has a lot of I think he has a spiritual

1589
01:34:26,119 --> 01:34:30,920
gift to like convict you, which is which is pretty interesting. Tristan,

1590
01:34:30,960 --> 01:34:32,399
by the way, I'm trying to rush through these, so

1591
01:34:32,560 --> 01:34:34,880
forgive me if we uh if it takes a little

1592
01:34:34,920 --> 01:34:36,439
bit to get started on our stream, but let me

1593
01:34:36,479 --> 01:34:37,800
finish the super testor.

1594
01:34:39,199 --> 01:34:40,479
Speaker 3: Uh amber ten dollars.

1595
01:34:40,520 --> 01:34:42,199
Speaker 2: I'm not sure if you covered this, but the Vatican

1596
01:34:42,319 --> 01:34:45,920
recently announced partnership with the Morning Star. Okay that somebody

1597
01:34:46,000 --> 01:34:47,680
else mentioned this, so maybe I should look into that

1598
01:34:47,720 --> 01:34:49,159
because I'm not familiar with what that is.

1599
01:34:49,239 --> 01:34:52,119
Speaker 3: Maybe that's not the Gladio stuff.

1600
01:34:52,359 --> 01:34:58,720
Speaker 2: So and the reason I say Gladio is that I

1601
01:34:58,840 --> 01:35:02,159
made a list in the Paul Williams book that he

1602
01:35:02,359 --> 01:35:05,880
lists all the shell front corporations that both the Bank

1603
01:35:05,920 --> 01:35:08,039
of Ambrosio and the Vatican Bank were using. It's like

1604
01:35:08,159 --> 01:35:10,880
twenty so there's all these weird names like this so

1605
01:35:11,199 --> 01:35:15,800
you know it's it is. Now you see why both

1606
01:35:15,920 --> 01:35:20,279
serial killers, conspiracy theorists, and the FBI in movies have

1607
01:35:20,439 --> 01:35:24,800
giant corkboards with string because it is very difficult to

1608
01:35:24,880 --> 01:35:26,760
keep up with all this. Like you read Whitney Webb's book,

1609
01:35:26,880 --> 01:35:31,199
it's like you need the you know, string corkboard to

1610
01:35:31,399 --> 01:35:33,319
draw all the connections because there's a lot of stuff.

1611
01:35:34,319 --> 01:35:38,039
Bat can launch his Catholic Stock Index. What to measure

1612
01:35:38,079 --> 01:35:40,760
ethical investments? Okay, I might have to read into this

1613
01:35:40,840 --> 01:35:43,000
because I don't even understand what that's supposed to mean.

1614
01:35:48,600 --> 01:35:52,840
Align your investment portfolio, portfolio with Catholic teaching. Now, does

1615
01:35:52,920 --> 01:35:56,000
this mean Catholic teaching when the death penalty was necessary

1616
01:35:56,119 --> 01:35:59,560
for butt stuff? Or is this Catholic teaching nowadays where

1617
01:36:00,680 --> 01:36:03,279
you can be a skittles priest. I'd like to know

1618
01:36:03,359 --> 01:36:06,479
what exactly the Vatican teaching is that my investments are

1619
01:36:06,479 --> 01:36:07,279
supposed to line up with.

1620
01:36:08,840 --> 01:36:10,880
Speaker 3: Maybe we could ask jeff Sein mcguffrey what's a good

1621
01:36:11,279 --> 01:36:12,159
thing to invest in?

1622
01:36:12,319 --> 01:36:14,520
Speaker 2: Since he, you know, he may actually be alive, and

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if he is, maybe we could send a couple of

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email asked, does Steve Bannon to send a couple of

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01:36:18,800 --> 01:36:22,600
emails to Jeff sty mcgaffrey get some investment advice because

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01:36:22,640 --> 01:36:25,159
a lot of people were asking Jeffrey about investment advice,

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01:36:25,239 --> 01:36:29,279
so maybe he could consult. Maybe this sounds like actually

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01:36:29,279 --> 01:36:32,000
a Jeff Steinn McCaffrey idea right here. He had a

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01:36:32,039 --> 01:36:33,520
lot of crazy, kooky ideas.

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Speaker 3: Journey of Abundance. Father Moses enter the chat. Shout out

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to Father Mos, seven martyrs. We was the monarchs, so

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the melanin magic. You may be referring to my candice

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joke video Fresh PELMENI five dollars. The only masculine advice

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I support. The only masculine advice that I support is

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Miami vice. I like that attitude.

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Speaker 2: Jake Guitar got twenty dollars. Your lisp thing got me

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01:37:01,960 --> 01:37:07,159
laughing like a king talking about leather, Eddy Alibrick, Fishy

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filmor so dollars. Orthodoxy seems the most untainted Christianity. You know,

1639
01:37:11,520 --> 01:37:13,800
But did they ever get involved or invaded by the

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01:37:13,840 --> 01:37:20,079
occult or these rings? Well, every church, every organization will

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have members.

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01:37:20,880 --> 01:37:22,479
Speaker 3: That get co opted and get in.

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Speaker 2: You know, you had, for example, Soviet bishops installed in

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01:37:26,119 --> 01:37:30,399
the Cold War. A lot of those guys got a compromise,

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01:37:30,520 --> 01:37:32,359
sexual compromise, co opted all that.

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Speaker 3: Go watch my.

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01:37:33,199 --> 01:37:36,399
Speaker 2: Interview with Metropolitan Joanah on that, because he talks about

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01:37:36,399 --> 01:37:40,199
the Soviets had like a tear system of not compromisable,

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01:37:40,439 --> 01:37:43,680
maybe compromisable, totally compromised right of their of the various

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01:37:43,920 --> 01:37:47,399
Orthodox clergy in Russia and other you know, Baltic countries too, So.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that does exist.

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01:37:50,000 --> 01:37:52,439
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, Warsdox Church has had sex scandals too.

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But I think it's the difference is that the the

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scope and the gravity is way different. And I'm not

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excusing the skullduggery that goes on with the EP or

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01:38:03,920 --> 01:38:06,479
any of that. They're they're also very bad. Good Godfather

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two dollars. I watched PM show. It was funny, what's

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01:38:10,720 --> 01:38:16,319
the PM show? Fishy Filmerson dollars. God's miracles transcend natural

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01:38:16,399 --> 01:38:18,119
law to Satanic rituals work?

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Speaker 3: I think sometimes they do things.

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Speaker 2: I mean it's hard to explain or know exactly when,

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01:38:24,399 --> 01:38:27,840
But you know, you say, does does dark magic actually work?

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01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:32,239
I think at the least, you know, if you look

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at say Michael Achino's book on black Magic, you know

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01:38:35,359 --> 01:38:38,279
he says, let's take all this Egyptian sorcery and the

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and the principles behind Egyptian sorcery, and let's apply this

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to military discipline and military you know, psyops and whatnot.

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So perhaps in that way you could say it's verifiable,

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01:38:49,880 --> 01:38:51,800
But really I think what it works to do is

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dupe the person doing it thinking that they're getting powers.

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And that's the power of the delusion.

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Speaker 3: Dah five dollars, Love you do, I thank you twenty dollars.

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Speaker 2: You know what you're painting about Josephus writing about Jesus

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in Antiquities. I mean, I've cited it as a historical source,

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and I've cited as a proof of partial preterism because

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he was an eyewitness to the destruction of the temple,

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which backs up Luke twenty one of Matthew twenty four.

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01:39:13,399 --> 01:39:15,960
But I think Josepha's fell into some kind of weird

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01:39:16,760 --> 01:39:20,039
cult attitude and some kind of strange view about some

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01:39:20,399 --> 01:39:23,079
false Messiah. I forget exactly what the details were, but

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so I don't know that he's totally trustworthy.

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01:39:25,279 --> 01:39:25,840
Speaker 14: But he is a.

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01:39:27,359 --> 01:39:31,439
Speaker 2: Ahistorical witness, you know, much like you know Tidus or

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01:39:31,479 --> 01:39:35,159
anybody else could be, or a tea shin or whoever

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01:39:35,159 --> 01:39:37,560
it is. That's the you know, the other famous historical

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01:39:37,680 --> 01:39:41,479
references to Jesus. I would class Josephus in that kind

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01:39:41,479 --> 01:39:42,079
of category.

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Speaker 3: Christo, what's up? Gifted membership is Paul What's up? Five dollars?

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Fishy film works twenty dollars? The end time scene near?

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01:39:50,439 --> 01:39:53,840
Speaker 2: Is our Is our time better spent pointing out influential

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01:39:53,880 --> 01:39:57,359
heretics or converting atheists or shoring up our family defenses?

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01:39:58,319 --> 01:39:58,960
Speaker 3: Well, I don't.

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01:39:59,680 --> 01:40:04,000
Speaker 2: I'm not worried about the end times, right, and we're

1694
01:40:04,039 --> 01:40:06,319
not as Orthodox supposed to be worried about it, So

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01:40:08,119 --> 01:40:10,760
I don't think there is a priority to Oh I've

1696
01:40:10,800 --> 01:40:13,840
got to, you know, debate all the atheists right as

1697
01:40:13,920 --> 01:40:16,079
more people become Orthodox, you know, you got, for example,

1698
01:40:16,199 --> 01:40:18,079
Jim Bob is doing really good debating all the atheists.

1699
01:40:18,119 --> 01:40:20,760
He's turned it up, so you've got people focusing on that.

1700
01:40:20,880 --> 01:40:22,800
I haven't really focused on the atheists in a while.

1701
01:40:22,800 --> 01:40:27,199
I've been doing other topics, mainly got to deal with

1702
01:40:27,279 --> 01:40:30,800
Bishop of Tilda Swaton, So that's the main person we

1703
01:40:30,880 --> 01:40:31,520
got to take down.

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01:40:31,880 --> 01:40:34,119
Speaker 3: Just kidding, Joshua Tree to dollars and Bibles of mind.

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01:40:34,159 --> 01:40:36,880
Speaker 2: The elites have everything, money and power and there are

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01:40:36,880 --> 01:40:39,199
people who want to be them and they want to

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01:40:39,199 --> 01:40:39,600
be with them.

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01:40:40,159 --> 01:40:43,279
Speaker 3: Why do they hurt the young? Do they worship bail?

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01:40:43,439 --> 01:40:47,439
Speaker 2: I mean, I think that amongst the elite, you can

1710
01:40:47,560 --> 01:40:51,600
have the worship of anything. You worship yourself, Satan, Bail

1711
01:40:51,800 --> 01:40:55,640
Moloch be an atheist, Like, as long as you're willing

1712
01:40:55,760 --> 01:40:59,800
to do whatever the system says and compromise you can,

1713
01:41:00,079 --> 01:41:05,119
that's the only way to go up the chain. Crash

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01:41:05,199 --> 01:41:07,199
meta religion to dollars. Have you ever tried to debate

1715
01:41:07,279 --> 01:41:10,720
Jimmy Aikin. I'm sure he would not do it. I

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01:41:10,840 --> 01:41:13,039
think i've I mean, I've mentioned him and called him out,

1717
01:41:13,119 --> 01:41:15,920
but I don't think it's ever been proposed as a

1718
01:41:16,760 --> 01:41:19,960
debate topic. But how about Jimmy Aikin debate me on

1719
01:41:20,000 --> 01:41:25,079
the geopologies of the papacy? Because he reaffirmed Trent's position

1720
01:41:25,479 --> 01:41:27,960
during koof that there's no such thing as a global

1721
01:41:28,159 --> 01:41:33,159
Davos elite conspiracy doesn't exist, So he promotes the normy

1722
01:41:33,479 --> 01:41:35,479
crap that Trent does, so he would definitely be a

1723
01:41:35,600 --> 01:41:38,520
person to debate. So here you go, Jimmy Aikin, how

1724
01:41:38,520 --> 01:41:41,880
about IA challenge you to debate the geopolitics of the Vatican,

1725
01:41:41,920 --> 01:41:44,159
and what is a better explanation for the Vatican in

1726
01:41:44,199 --> 01:41:47,479
the twentieth century and its actions the kerosm of Peter

1727
01:41:47,600 --> 01:41:51,520
and indefectibility and infallibility, or the geopolitical power of the

1728
01:41:51,640 --> 01:41:55,399
Western elites turning it to be a tool of their propaganda.

1729
01:41:57,279 --> 01:41:58,720
And that would include, by the way, got him as

1730
01:41:58,760 --> 01:42:02,920
post trying to hurry so we can get to the

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01:42:03,000 --> 01:42:06,920
Tristan show here thorn thorn shield ten dollars.

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Speaker 3: If global power cabal elites were to come out with

1733
01:42:10,680 --> 01:42:13,840
a official party name, would it be the Fabian Socialist

1734
01:42:13,920 --> 01:42:15,359
the disenfranchising Anglo Party.

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Speaker 10: Uh?

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01:42:17,720 --> 01:42:20,760
Speaker 2: Well, I think ultimately at the root core of it

1737
01:42:21,760 --> 01:42:24,920
they are Satanic and that's why you see, for example,

1738
01:42:24,960 --> 01:42:30,359
the Jeff Stein mcguffrey email about t O R t

1739
01:42:30,560 --> 01:42:34,119
U R I n G the young Christian girl. That's

1740
01:42:34,479 --> 01:42:40,119
absolute pure Satanism, to defile the youth, which by the

1741
01:42:40,119 --> 01:42:42,319
way Crowley talks about the pure that's like the purest

1742
01:42:42,359 --> 01:42:43,600
form of Satanism is to do that.

1743
01:42:45,800 --> 01:42:49,239
Speaker 3: So that to me suggests that Jeff Stein and.

1744
01:42:49,279 --> 01:42:52,520
Speaker 2: The people at his sort of steering committee level, and

1745
01:42:52,560 --> 01:42:55,239
remember he was recruited into the Trilateral Commission, which is

1746
01:42:55,279 --> 01:42:59,000
a kind of above Steering Committee of CFR. He was

1747
01:42:59,039 --> 01:43:01,840
recruited in that very early, and that to me suggests

1748
01:43:01,880 --> 01:43:05,920
that there is a definite Satanic element and network amongst

1749
01:43:05,960 --> 01:43:08,680
the people at that level, and they believe that they

1750
01:43:08,720 --> 01:43:15,119
derive power from harming the most innocent. It's a principle

1751
01:43:15,119 --> 01:43:17,560
of inversion. So if they had a party name, I mean,

1752
01:43:18,199 --> 01:43:21,079
ultimately I think the ideology is you could say Fabian socialist,

1753
01:43:21,079 --> 01:43:25,000
because remember the baby and socials were pushing the same horrible,

1754
01:43:25,560 --> 01:43:28,680
disgusting art in the eighteen nineties. They were way ahead

1755
01:43:28,680 --> 01:43:32,960
of these people and pushing the same stuff. But yeah,

1756
01:43:33,000 --> 01:43:36,359
the Satanic socialists, how about that? The scott at five

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dollars I stoke to finally see you say, the mean

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girls gift that I made was the piety signaling henpeckers

1759
01:43:45,720 --> 01:43:48,680
and they're all saying, raise your hand if Jadi are victimized.

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Speaker 3: You Okay, that's funny. Yeah, I saw that. I think

1761
01:43:50,000 --> 01:43:54,680
on Twitter that's what you're talking about. Good God.

1762
01:43:54,720 --> 01:43:56,680
Speaker 2: The Father two dollars the Piers Morgan show was actually

1763
01:43:56,720 --> 01:43:59,079
confirmed funny, thank you. I think everybody thought that was

1764
01:43:59,119 --> 01:44:02,560
funny except for Trent Horn looking for some thing to

1765
01:44:02,640 --> 01:44:03,359
bitch about.

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01:44:03,720 --> 01:44:05,079
Speaker 3: Or looks grammar Ja.

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Speaker 2: I thank you, have you You've helped me from my

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worldview geopolitics, theology and movie symbolism.

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Speaker 3: You and Father Peter.

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01:44:11,319 --> 01:44:13,960
Speaker 2: Heres are my go to after Church and the Saints,

1771
01:44:14,000 --> 01:44:17,880
of course, but your song pantecoastal pentecostal cracks me up.

1772
01:44:17,920 --> 01:44:20,800
Thank you and shout out to doctor Evo and Ozzy

1773
01:44:20,880 --> 01:44:22,640
for that one. Or doctor I don't think as he

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01:44:22,680 --> 01:44:27,039
did that. But doctor Evo's a great producer there A.

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01:44:27,079 --> 01:44:30,359
Speaker 3: Lot of these recent jams wouldn't even exist without his production.

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01:44:30,520 --> 01:44:33,800
Speaker 2: Ord Zane, what's up? He says, let's go boys, and

1777
01:44:33,960 --> 01:44:37,000
he does he does the Wiga laugh. Uh oh, I

1778
01:44:37,079 --> 01:44:39,800
did I do a racism? Can Trent Horn expose me

1779
01:44:39,880 --> 01:44:44,039
for doing a racism? These ors fight dollars two bad

1780
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Orton Maxwell wasn't around to decipher.

1781
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Speaker 3: Sci Fi the Epstein files. You'll have to look at

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the names on the colors that I.

1783
01:44:51,760 --> 01:44:54,640
Speaker 2: Used and to turn them into the opposite of what

1784
01:44:54,840 --> 01:45:00,000
they are, namely a twa doctile conspiracy.

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Speaker 3: Snead five dollars. I have a screen recording of the

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01:45:04,680 --> 01:45:09,319
video proof that g Lane is a thing.

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Speaker 2: Cover for Wayfair. I don't, I mean, why you just

1788
01:45:14,880 --> 01:45:16,760
try to put that on Twitter. I mean, while you're

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01:45:16,760 --> 01:45:19,199
trying to. I don't really do people trying to send

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me secret information just.

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Speaker 3: Put it up publicly?

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Speaker 2: Dog fishy film or two dollars. Is there a black Pope?

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01:45:26,520 --> 01:45:28,279
I mean yeah, I kind of. I don't know if

1794
01:45:28,279 --> 01:45:32,239
they're like literally calling the shots, but I mean the

1795
01:45:32,359 --> 01:45:36,119
Jesuits do have a head of the Order, which historically

1796
01:45:36,239 --> 01:45:39,880
has had varying degrees of power. I guess it's debatable

1797
01:45:39,920 --> 01:45:43,600
to what degree they had power. But yes and no,

1798
01:45:45,279 --> 01:45:52,840
all right, I think we're getting towards the We've Steko

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seven dollars, not to mention one hundred and twenty five

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pounds UFC fighter could kill a body builder.

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Speaker 3: Uh yeah, good point. So just being a buff gay

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dude doesn't.

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01:46:01,920 --> 01:46:06,359
Speaker 2: Actually make you a masculine killer to Rebut some of

1804
01:46:06,439 --> 01:46:22,840
what Trent Horne was saying, question, do you think Cadriano

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was overrated?

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Speaker 3: I just don't know a lot about that. It's not

1807
01:46:25,520 --> 01:46:26,439
a topic I've spent much.

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01:46:26,439 --> 01:46:29,399
Speaker 2: I don't had much time to get into Romanian iron guards,

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01:46:29,439 --> 01:46:31,159
so it's I just don't know much about it.

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Speaker 3: Francis three dollars. I was born and raised Catholic.

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Speaker 2: I was in a monastery and for some years, and

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01:46:38,600 --> 01:46:39,920
went down the set of a concerts track, and then

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I realized it's crazy. A Now orthodox, everything makes much

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01:46:42,600 --> 01:46:43,000
more sense.

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Speaker 3: Thank you.

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01:46:43,640 --> 01:46:45,079
Speaker 2: That's great to hear. That's the kind of good news

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I like to hear. Help me a lot hearing your backstory.

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God bless you and your family.

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Speaker 3: Thanks man. I appreciate that Francis Daniel five dollars when

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01:46:56,920 --> 01:46:59,119
you were talking to Jake about.

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01:46:59,000 --> 01:47:02,760
Speaker 2: Epstein and then he got promoted at bear Stearns because

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01:47:02,800 --> 01:47:05,399
he had insider information. I think that's what happened. I

1823
01:47:05,479 --> 01:47:08,479
mean that seems to be the way Whitney Web describes

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01:47:08,479 --> 01:47:12,680
it in that early chapter. This would make me think

1825
01:47:12,720 --> 01:47:14,800
of Wall Street. But your stream from two years ago

1826
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about move the movie Wall Street is vindicated.

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Speaker 3: That's thank you.

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Speaker 2: I forgot we even did a Wall Street stream. But yeah,

1829
01:47:19,800 --> 01:47:21,560
we talked about that with Jake Shield yesterday.

1830
01:47:22,439 --> 01:47:25,279
Speaker 3: Ooh, here we go, fast evers at writer Ge says

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for one hundred dollars, Jay, I love your work. You're

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the numb one reason I became orthodox. Your knowledge or

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insight are actually invouable without a father figure. I look

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up to you in that way.

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Speaker 9: Wow.

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Speaker 3: I definitely am not a very good father figure, but

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I guess I can be a sort of pale reflection

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of a full ooh your father figure. What's that, George Michael.

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We don't want it to be in the George Michael says,

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because that sounds kind of gay.

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Speaker 2: But it's got a good rhythm, but a melody, but

1842
01:47:48,319 --> 01:47:50,479
the lyrics, if you pay attention to this is kind

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of gay.

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Speaker 3: Dude. I will be your fallow figure. Put your tiny

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hands in mine. I won't be the one who loves

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you to the end. Be well. Shout out the writer.

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G for one hundred dollars. Tay get so much. Dog

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Bird says, the best hood movie is i'mnna get you, sucker.

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Thank you guys. We were gonna be gonna other snatch

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dods of dollars?

1851
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Speaker 2: Was Epstein LARPing. I don't think you're LARPing. If you're

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like engaged in the stuff that came out in the

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last two days that does that's not LARPing. That's serious evil, dude,

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like the most evil shit you can do. And you know,

1855
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for for people to defend that, to cover up for that,

1856
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that makes me say they're trash people. And maybe in

1857
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the case of you know, Trent, maybe he just doesn't

1858
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even want to look at that because he's he's too

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scared of where that would go.

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Speaker 3: But you know what, it's it's what's out there. So

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I'm not gonna act like or cover up.

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Speaker 2: Prelates to the Vaticant or any of these scum, because

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that's my religion.

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Speaker 3: I got to cover up for them.

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Speaker 2: That's that's that's you're making yourself a moral sort of accessory.

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Not saying that Trent did anything actually like that. I'm

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saying that to cope and defend these people who are

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absolute just demons to me, makes that person a garbage person.

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Speaker 3: Thanks Christopher Scott, he says for tend dollars.

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Speaker 2: Thank you, Jay, I'm a slow boy. I get ten

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percent of what you talk about. Thank you to Jimbob

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thinking Andrew. I'll be in the church around Posca. That's great, man,

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01:49:26,640 --> 01:49:27,279
it's good to hear that.

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Speaker 3: God bless you. Do you think credit unions will exist

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over the great reset? A good question. I don't know, man.

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Speaker 2: I'm just ready for bitcoin to become the norm. I

1877
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don't even know about this boomer shit like banks and

1878
01:49:43,159 --> 01:49:46,079
credit unions. That's all boomer to me dude. Guys get ready,

1879
01:49:46,520 --> 01:49:48,079
we'll be back over here with Tristan in just a

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few moments.

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Speaker 3: Don't go anywhere