Speaker 1: Our next guest is my north star when it comes
Speaker 1: to trying to understand the landscape of college hoops. He's
Speaker 1: good enough to come in studio from time to time.
Speaker 1: Over the phone today on a Friday, is Ken Pomeroy Ken.
Speaker 1: Happy Valentine's Day, Man, how are we doing?
Speaker 2: We're doing great, s Bence, a thrill to spend my
Speaker 2: Valentine's Day with you for a few minutes.
Speaker 3: I can CeNSE your sarcasm.
Speaker 1: Have you been married long enough where your efforts are
Speaker 1: just their futile doesn't matter?
Speaker 3: Are you still under pressure to perform tonight?
Speaker 2: I've been married zero years, Ben, so I'm zero pressure
Speaker 2: to perform.
Speaker 3: That was a weird way of me asking that question.
Speaker 1: I just realized I probably should have had a different approach.
Speaker 3: Let's move on rapidly.
Speaker 1: Ken Auburn Alabama number one, verse number two. But this
Speaker 1: is not a football game. It is a basketball game.
Speaker 1: What do you make of the top two teams in
Speaker 1: the country doing battle tomorrow? What's at steak here?
Speaker 2: The basketball Iron Bowl as it were? Yeah, what's at stake?
Speaker 2: There's not like, actually that much at stake other than
Speaker 2: extreme bragging rights here. I mean, it should be just
Speaker 2: a really super fun game to watch, tremendously high scoring.
Speaker 2: This is one of those games where if you're a
Speaker 2: you know, an NBA snob and yeah, look down on
Speaker 2: college basketball. This is a game that I can promise
Speaker 2: you you will be entertained if you if you tune
Speaker 2: into you'll you'll see up and down action. You won't
Speaker 2: see you know, Hickory High school type ball here. This
Speaker 2: is a you know, game with future pros in the court.
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, there's not much, not necessarily much at
Speaker 2: stake because both of these teams are kind of trending
Speaker 2: towards a one seed. Especially was a little bit more
Speaker 2: at stake for Alabama. The resume might be slightly weaker,
Speaker 2: but it's just mostly mostly bragging rights here and mostly
Speaker 2: who will be the number one team in the A
Speaker 2: people will come Monday.
Speaker 3: I will stand for no Hickory High slander.
Speaker 1: Four passes before you shoot ken, that's how you're supposed
Speaker 1: to play basketball.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean there's definitely, ah yeah, definitely a group
Speaker 2: of college basketball fans that believe that, and we'll hold
Speaker 2: true to that and think that, you know, the thirty
Speaker 2: second shot clock is yeah, it's it's not appropriate for
Speaker 2: basketball it should be much higher or not exist at all.
Speaker 2: But I am not in that club spence. I'd like
Speaker 2: to see up and down action. I don't like to
Speaker 2: see people holding the ball. I like to see athleticism
Speaker 2: and creativity, and this game will feature all of that
Speaker 2: and more.
Speaker 1: And I'm with you, of course, I was being facetious
Speaker 1: that we talked about this when you're in studio a
Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 3: I want to see that shotcock slash.
Speaker 1: I want a twenty four second shot clock in college basketball.
Speaker 3: What's your preferred number.
Speaker 2: I'm with you, I'm with you. Yeah. The constant, constant
Speaker 2: fight against the college troops establishment on some of these
Speaker 2: you know, legacy rules that they have in place. You know,
Speaker 2: we've seen it, you know, going back to the three
Speaker 2: point line, they were you know, pretty late to install that,
Speaker 2: and then the shot clock they were really late to
Speaker 2: and saw that initially. I guess in more modern times
Speaker 2: you can think about a charge circle, where I think
Speaker 2: they were about fifteen years after the NBA and you know,
Speaker 2: thinking about a charge circle, and their initial attempts were
Speaker 2: a really tiny charge circle, and then they eventually, you know,
Speaker 2: gave into the rest of the world and had a regular,
Speaker 2: regular sized charge circle with modern charging rules, and they
Speaker 2: finally got there. But yeah, college basketball is just super
Speaker 2: slow to kind of adopt modern rules, and so someday
Speaker 2: we will get to twenty four seconds. I would say
Speaker 2: the over under is probably, I don't know, eight years
Speaker 2: from now.
Speaker 1: Let's say now, according to your model, Auburn is the
Speaker 1: best team in the country, but you have Alabama at six.
Speaker 1: But since Auburn is the number one team in the
Speaker 1: country in your model and then also rank number one,
Speaker 1: is it pretty clear that Bruce Pearl has the best
Speaker 1: team in college basketball as of right now, and who is.
Speaker 3: On their heels?
Speaker 2: I would say, uh, I don't know if it's clearly
Speaker 2: the best team in college basketball. It's certainly the argument
Speaker 2: right now I think is between Duke and Auburn. And
Speaker 2: you know, you might get a little bit of interest
Speaker 2: for Houston as well. We'll start with Houston. They're, you know,
Speaker 2: kind of the typical Coven Sanston team. They know, they're
Speaker 2: you know, they're not loaded with you know, elite NBA talent,
Speaker 2: a team that relies on a bunch of guys on
Speaker 2: the court that have tremendous motor And we'll give maximum
Speaker 2: effort at all times. And then you know, not to
Speaker 2: disrespect their their basketball skill either, but you know, more
Speaker 2: reliant on the defensive end the offensive end, although they
Speaker 2: have a very good offensive year. They're one of the
Speaker 2: best three point shooting teams in the country, which makes
Speaker 2: them especially scary because in the past they've just been
Speaker 2: great defense, okay, offense, not great shootings. They get a
Speaker 2: bunch of offensive rebounds, but now they can shoot, so
Speaker 2: so they're a little scary. But I do think like
Speaker 2: maybe a half step behind Duke and Auburn. And I
Speaker 2: think people are fairly familiar with Duke. I mean, obviously
Speaker 2: led by Cooper's flag, but he's surrounded by other elite
Speaker 2: freshmen Continent bull and come on Malawatch, and also some
Speaker 2: experienced players as well, some experience transfers they brought over,
Speaker 2: in particular Mason Gillis from Purdue. So that's a very
Speaker 2: very good team as well. And then Auburn has been outstanding,
Speaker 2: you know, rolling through one of the toughest conferences that
Speaker 2: we've seen in the history of college basketball. Was just
Speaker 2: one loss so far. I think people sleep a little
Speaker 2: bit on Auburn because you know, they're not the traditional
Speaker 2: brand of some of these other teams, but they have
Speaker 2: put together an outstanding season so far, and so we
Speaker 2: just have three, like I think uniquely good teams in
Speaker 2: another years would be clearly the best team in the country.
Speaker 2: But they all exist in the same season this year,
Speaker 2: so there's you know, plenty of room for debate on
Speaker 2: who truly is the best team.
Speaker 1: Four of your top six teams in basketball are in
Speaker 1: the SEC, and then you also have A and M, Kentucky, MISSOO,
Speaker 1: and Mississippi in.
Speaker 3: The top twenty.
Speaker 1: What was it expected that the SEC would be the
Speaker 1: best team or excuse me, the best conference in college
Speaker 1: basketball this year because I think a lot of people
Speaker 1: just assumed it would be the Big Twelve. And the
Speaker 1: Big twelve is very good. But is this SEC college
Speaker 1: basketball dominant something you expected to start the year?
Speaker 2: Yeah, in my preseason ratings, I actually did have the
Speaker 2: SEC as the best league, slightly over the Big Twelve.
Speaker 2: But you know, there's something with room for debate. I mean,
Speaker 2: for you know, the past decade or so, you could
Speaker 2: use magic marker and write and you know that the
Speaker 2: Big twelve would be the best going into the season,
Speaker 2: and they've been the best conference in my ratings, I
Speaker 2: think nine of the last ten years, so a really
Speaker 2: long run for them. Expansion has taking its toll to
Speaker 2: some extent on the league. I mean, most of the
Speaker 2: teams that have been at in the last couple of
Speaker 2: years have hurt the league overall, Proud and they lost
Speaker 2: Texas Oklahoma as well, so that that hurt a little bit.
Speaker 2: They did add Arizona and Houston, which you know, there
Speaker 2: are obviously no slashes that have helped the brands to
Speaker 2: some extent. But the surprising part is just that how
Speaker 2: good the SEC has been, Like it's not surprising if
Speaker 2: they're the best league, but you know, you look over
Speaker 2: the last thirty years and they're non conference play, they
Speaker 2: had the best winning percentage of any league in history.
Speaker 2: They had the best margin of victory in those games
Speaker 2: in any league in history. Particularly impressed of giving how
Speaker 2: big the conference is. I mean, that's part of the
Speaker 2: secret here, is like at the top the conference is great,
Speaker 2: it's better than any other league. In the middle it's
Speaker 2: better than any other league. But also at the bottom
Speaker 2: it's better than any other league. And that's how you
Speaker 2: end up with people talking about them getting you know,
Speaker 2: thirteen or even fourteen other teams in the tournament. How
Speaker 2: you end up with a team like Oklahoma who is
Speaker 2: currently three and eight in common play, and yet I
Speaker 2: think in every single brack of projection that I've seen
Speaker 2: right now, So it's just pretty absurd what the SEC
Speaker 2: is doing, and that level of dominance really was was
Speaker 2: not something that we could have seen coming before the season.
Speaker 1: All right, let's go get over to some local storylines
Speaker 1: and we'll start with the bad and then move over
Speaker 1: to the good. And the bad unfortunately is the youth.
Speaker 1: Since you and I last spoke, they've lost three or four.
Speaker 1: They got Colorado at home, after a rough start, they
Speaker 1: pulled away. Colorado's probably the worst team in the conference.
Speaker 1: You know, they're owing thirteen, so that would indicate as much.
Speaker 1: And then Morgantown's a tough place to play, bringing me on,
Speaker 1: gota win there.
Speaker 3: We'll get to BYU Cincinnati.
Speaker 1: They were tied at seventy two and then Cincinnati went
Speaker 1: on that eleven zero run. But again, they've lost three
Speaker 1: or four. If you kind of pan back, they've now
Speaker 1: lost five of seven. They found themselves in five and
Speaker 1: eight in conference play, thirteen and eleven overall, can just
Speaker 1: give me the latest thoughts as you're watching this Utah
Speaker 1: team struggle to make their way through Big twelve play.
Speaker 2: Great, I mean, not much has changed since we last talked.
Speaker 2: You know, they don't have that person that can bailed
Speaker 2: them out at the end of a shot clock when
Speaker 2: they need a bucket. You know, last year, they you know,
Speaker 2: they had dave On Smith. You know, uh he was
Speaker 2: you know, pretty awesome to had that and and you
Speaker 2: kind of, you know, had this sick feeling in your
Speaker 2: stomach that he wasn't going to be back with the
Speaker 2: youths again this season. You know, they also had Brandon Carlson,
Speaker 2: who was, in a different sort of way, a guy
Speaker 2: that could get you a bucket late in the shock
Speaker 2: clock and face the floor is a kind of a
Speaker 2: unique big So uh, they just have nothing like that
Speaker 2: on this roster and that really causes them problems in
Speaker 2: Big twelve play. You know, you're going against quality defenses
Speaker 2: and you're gonna face that situation a lot, and uh, yeah, unfortunately,
Speaker 2: you just don't have an answer for that. And that's
Speaker 2: gonna be a problem tomorrow against Kansas Early. You know
Speaker 2: another you know, really just elite defense. One of the
Speaker 2: best defenses in the country. So yeah, it's uh, you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know what the optimistic viewpoint is here for
Speaker 2: the youths right now. I mean they yet they're just
Speaker 2: you know, again, as we discussed last time, this is
Speaker 2: not like a terrible team, but uh, in the Big Twelve,
Speaker 2: you know, they're looking up at almost every single opponent
Speaker 2: they have to play, and so that's why they have
Speaker 2: the record that they have.
Speaker 3: What do they do well?
Speaker 1: I mean when when the Knights they're actually able to
Speaker 1: compete and get wins, you know, I know, the assist
Speaker 1: numbers to start the year were really good. I know
Speaker 1: they have size, but where do they struggle most ken
Speaker 1: and what do they do well?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I would say in terms of what they do well,
Speaker 2: you know that size is useful. Defensively, they do have
Speaker 2: a really nice two point defense. They're holding opponents to
Speaker 2: forty six percent on twos, which is twenty fifth best
Speaker 2: in the country, and even in conference play that goes
Speaker 2: up to forty nine percent. But that still fits in
Speaker 2: the Big twelve. So really respectable from that standpoint, not
Speaker 2: terribly respectable in much else. I mean, they really struggled
Speaker 2: shooting the basketball. They struggled just generating easy shots, so
Speaker 2: you know, it all just kind of funnels down. I
Speaker 2: think in the fact that they don't have much perimeter
Speaker 2: shooting that makes it difficult to get anything easy in
Speaker 2: the paint because they're just not great spacing and that,
Speaker 2: you know, as you mentioned, create some problems on the
Speaker 2: offensive end. So yeah, they just don't have that, like,
Speaker 2: I don't know, that burst that that other teams have
Speaker 2: on offense where they can you know, reel off a
Speaker 2: twelve to two run or something like that. It's just
Speaker 2: a it seems like, you know, in the half court
Speaker 2: of the offense, it's just really a struggle.
Speaker 3: Give us a little preview tomorrow night.
Speaker 1: As you referenced, excuse me, the Jayhawks roll into town,
Speaker 1: Utah is only an eight point five point underdog. I
Speaker 1: thought it would be worse than that. And I'm not
Speaker 1: a moral victory guy. I think people are listening to
Speaker 1: the show know that. But what would I mean outside
Speaker 1: of actually an upset, which everybody would love, But what
Speaker 1: would a successful night look like Tomorrow night for Craig's
Speaker 1: team against this Kansas team, and tell us about them?
Speaker 3: What makes them tick?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, just you know, just a good competitive
Speaker 2: game would would be a rushing to see. This is
Speaker 2: not like a vintage Kansas team. You know, this is
Speaker 2: the team that pre season was the consensus number one
Speaker 2: team in the land, but they really haven't played that.
Speaker 2: This is not a team that has you know, a
Speaker 2: ton of offensive skill, which is not unusual, but for
Speaker 2: a Bill Sell team, he's normally you know, the architect
Speaker 2: of great defenses. To the other defense ranked fifth in
Speaker 2: the country, so it's still you know, a really solid
Speaker 2: defense and that'll be you know, a big challenge on
Speaker 2: that end of the floor for the youths. But offensively,
Speaker 2: they suffer from some of the same things that youth
Speaker 2: suffer from. They don't have shooting. Uh. They also do
Speaker 2: not get it to freeze their lives. This is the
Speaker 2: team that generates a very high percentage of its points
Speaker 2: off of two point buckets. And you know, you can
Speaker 2: imagine in the modern game, when you're limited to scoring
Speaker 2: two points at a time, you know your offense is
Speaker 2: only going to be so effective. So I think there
Speaker 2: are signs of hope, signs of hope here. You know,
Speaker 2: if the youth can can play at the top of
Speaker 2: their game, uh, they can hang in there with Kansas
Speaker 2: because because Kansas and does not have a much like
Speaker 2: the youth does not have a very explosive offense, bringing me.
Speaker 1: Young five and two. In their last seven they got
Speaker 1: trounced by Cincinnati. They lost Arizona at home. Prior to that,
Speaker 1: they ran off four straight wins and then they went
Speaker 1: to Morgantown and got a good win. I think that
Speaker 1: was quad one from what I remember on the road
Speaker 1: to West Virginia. So before we preview Case State, who, man,
Speaker 1: they've been on fire as of late. Just give me
Speaker 1: your thoughts on the recent run of play, which has
Speaker 1: been more good than bad for Kevin Young and b Yu.
Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, I mean they too experiencing life in the
Speaker 2: Big twelve. You know, a lot of ups and downs.
Speaker 2: But yeah, I win at West Virginia quad one. Fact,
Speaker 2: West Virginia, in my home court model rank is the
Speaker 2: number one home court in the country, so not an
Speaker 2: easy place to win. There's a lot of places in
Speaker 2: the Big twelve like that, but West Virginia the most
Speaker 2: extreme in that sense. And yeah, so that really right
Speaker 2: at the ship for the coolers and the other back
Speaker 2: kind of like looks like right up that cut line
Speaker 2: for forgetting that large bit, so that closing stretch is vital,
Speaker 2: and certainly the games against the Kansas teams this week
Speaker 2: is going to be vital as well. And you mentioned
Speaker 2: Kansas State, they are the hottest team in college basketball,
Speaker 2: really left for dead, you know, just like three weeks ago,
Speaker 2: you know, nobody was talking about them making the tournament.
Speaker 2: And since then, you know, they enjoy the the fruits
Speaker 2: of the Big Twelve. They go on a fick in
Speaker 2: winning streak, you know, beating the likes of you know,
Speaker 2: Iowa State on the road. I mean, for those four
Speaker 2: of those ones were at home, but if you get
Speaker 2: a road winningainst Iowa State, be Kansas at home, beat
Speaker 2: Arizona at home. I mean, they're doing what they have
Speaker 2: to do. And so now they're you know, back on
Speaker 2: the fringes of the tournament discussion and heading into provo
Speaker 2: with a chance to continue that. But you know, the
Speaker 2: game by US favored in, they should win that game,
Speaker 2: and they're gonna have a great chance against Kansas and
Speaker 2: that's gonna be a pretty raucous atmosphere on Tuesday night,
Speaker 2: I believe, and a game that I have as a
Speaker 2: coin flip. So you know, as you mentioned, you know,
Speaker 2: b Yu up and down playing a little better. They
Speaker 2: kind of are who they are at this point. You know,
Speaker 2: we keep hoping for Yegor into kind of break through
Speaker 2: and become an outside shooter, but shot hasn't really fallen
Speaker 2: for him yet. Still a bit of a turnover machine.
Speaker 2: What overall, there is enough experience around him and enough
Speaker 2: talent around him that you know, this is a functional
Speaker 2: team that you know has legitimate tournament aspirations and really
Speaker 2: they can just hold serve at home down the stretch.
Speaker 2: I think they will get a bit.
Speaker 1: You reference BYU being the favorite Tomorrow night, seven o'clock
Speaker 1: in provo, Case State rolls in. But tell me what
Speaker 1: KSE State has figured out. They started conference, I mean
Speaker 1: they were horrible. They beat Cincinnati, then they lost sixth straight.
Speaker 1: But they have won six straight games, including wins over
Speaker 1: West Virginia, on the road at Iowa State by nineteen,
Speaker 1: home against Kansas, and then home against Arizona. So four
Speaker 1: of these six wins have come against ranked teams. Ken,
Speaker 1: what what is Case State figured out? And what sort
Speaker 1: of issues could they they posed for BYU tomorrow night?
Speaker 2: Yeah, particularly impressive here Spans they beat Arizona while going
Speaker 2: one of nineteen on threes, right, Yeah, it's wild, yeah,
Speaker 2: very very difficult to do that against any opponent, but
Speaker 2: obviously in Arizona, you would not have expected them to
Speaker 2: win that game, and yet they were able to pull
Speaker 2: that out. I mean, you know, it's been just spontaneous
Speaker 2: combustion for the most part. They struggled so badly early
Speaker 2: in Big Twelve play and just about every category, and
Speaker 2: since then they flipped the switch, Like offensively, they've come
Speaker 2: around a bit, and they've been able to go play
Speaker 2: some pretty good defense as well. I be part of
Speaker 2: the secrets that Arizona win was at Arizona also shot
Speaker 2: poorly from three point land, which you know, may have
Speaker 2: been some of Kansas State defense. It may have been
Speaker 2: just a little bit of good fortune as well. But
Speaker 2: you know, this is a team that has a tremendous
Speaker 2: amount of experience. You know, Doug McDaniel's their point guard,
Speaker 2: well traveled point guard, originally at Michigan, coming over to
Speaker 2: Kansas State this year and finally starting to find his role.
Speaker 2: He's not like a very efficient point guard, but on
Speaker 2: nights where he can just kind of avoid, you know,
Speaker 2: chucking up a bunch of shots and turning the ball
Speaker 2: over a bunch. They have a chance because they have
Speaker 2: other experienced guys at the other four positions that can
Speaker 2: provide them with some scoring. It's a team that doesn't
Speaker 2: really necessarily have stars. It's, you know, just a team
Speaker 2: with a lot of good role players that on any
Speaker 2: given night can maybe expand their role and produce something positive.
Speaker 2: So if you look at the roster and it's not
Speaker 2: a roster necessarily scares, you can kind of see why
Speaker 2: they had trouble early in Big Twelve play, But clearly
Speaker 2: they're also capable of raising their level of play to
Speaker 2: the point where they can, you know, reel awt some
Speaker 2: quality wins.
Speaker 1: Who in your mind is the biggest threat to Houston
Speaker 1: to win the Big Twelve? I mean Arizona second the standings,
Speaker 1: but I have your rankings pulled up.
Speaker 3: You have Arizona at fourteen.
Speaker 1: So Houston, by any metric that I'm looking at, is
Speaker 1: the best team in this conference. Who's the biggest threat
Speaker 1: to beat them potentially and win the Big Twelve?
Speaker 2: Well, you know you mentioned the Alabama Auburn game tomorrow,
Speaker 2: with the second biggest game tomorrow is Houston Arizona. That'll
Speaker 2: go a long way towards deciding the Big twelve title.
Speaker 2: That game in Tucston, So you know, a huge, huge
Speaker 2: challenge for Houston. But if Houston does win that game,
Speaker 2: then it's you know, they haven't clinched anything, but you
Speaker 2: know they'll be in the driver's a big time for
Speaker 2: the title. Those are the you know, two of the
Speaker 2: best teams in the league. Clearly Texas Tack kind of
Speaker 2: lurking people. You know, they weren't preseason top twenty five
Speaker 2: and the Ape Pole that we will say Spence, they
Speaker 2: were preseason top twenty five in my ratings. That I
Speaker 2: want to pat myself in the back. Ye love yeah,
Speaker 2: so so. But they've been really consistent this year and
Speaker 2: you know JT Top and coming off a forty plus
Speaker 2: point game in a double overtime winningas there is in
Speaker 2: a state the other night. It's been their kind of
Speaker 2: best player. He's been healthy. So they're another team Iowa State. Uh,
Speaker 2: you know, they've more or less been a top ten
Speaker 2: team all year. Struggled a bit of a late a
Speaker 2: little more up and down last couple of weeks, but
Speaker 2: that's a team that's very experienced and much like Houston,
Speaker 2: kind of a team driven and more on an identity
Speaker 2: of just playing hard. You know, obviously you have to
Speaker 2: have good players, but really playing hard. Not necessarily you know,
Speaker 2: loaded with professional talent, but just a team that really
Speaker 2: plays hard and plays together and values every possession in
Speaker 2: a way that few teams other than Houston do nationally.
Speaker 2: So I think that's your kind of your breakdown of
Speaker 2: the upper echelon of the Big twelve and those the
Speaker 2: team you can kind of look for in the tournament
Speaker 2: to possibly make deep runs.
Speaker 1: All right, Ken, Before I said you lose, big one
Speaker 1: for Utah State on Sunday, they're at New Mexico. But
Speaker 1: big picture, Utah State twenty two and three in conference,
Speaker 1: or excuse me, twenty two and three overall, twelve and
Speaker 1: two in conference. It just is amazing that these coaches
Speaker 1: are able to do this without a lot of returning players.
Speaker 3: I believe you have them as a top fifty ish team.
Speaker 3: You to stated fifty one.
Speaker 1: So your thoughts on the Aggies, what you think they
Speaker 1: can do the rest of the way before I say
Speaker 1: you loose on this Friday, Yeah.
Speaker 2: I mean, you don't hear any talk about Jared Calhoun
Speaker 2: being coach of the Year. I don't know if people
Speaker 2: nationally just like I think it's a Utah State program
Speaker 2: thing or whatever. You can just step in and you know,
Speaker 2: coach a team do a twenty two and three record,
Speaker 2: you know, in your first year, but definitely deserve some
Speaker 2: consideration for that. It's been an outstanding season there. They
Speaker 2: won all the games they should win. They don't win
Speaker 2: by dominating margins. And I think this team does have
Speaker 2: some weaknesses, especially on the defensive end, that will you know,
Speaker 2: really make it hard for them to go deep in
Speaker 2: the NCAA tournament. But yeah, a huge game at New Mexico,
Speaker 2: a really tough place to play. Obviously, not a game
Speaker 2: that Utah State needs to you know, make the NCAA tournament.
Speaker 2: But if they were to go down to the pit
Speaker 2: and pull off an upset and they would start feeling
Speaker 2: really comfortable heading into the last five games after that.
Speaker 2: So yeah, really fun year in Logan and you know,
Speaker 2: Utah State looking get to the tournament. Still hasn't do
Speaker 2: a little bit of work. I mean, the Mountain West
Speaker 2: bill down this year, so you know, so they're gonna
Speaker 2: have to do some work somewhere. I don't think they
Speaker 2: need that win at the pit so badly, but if
Speaker 2: they can perform well there, that will be extremely impressive.
Speaker 3: Ken, March is two weeks away. Man, Where can people
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Speaker 3: Have you had a girlfriend for a long time? Is
Speaker 3: that why I'm confused.
Speaker 2: I've had a girlfriend, but not for a long time.
Speaker 1: You know what, Let's just go ahead and pivot out
Speaker 1: of this because I already made it awkward at the
Speaker 1: start by asking you a really, really weird question with
Speaker 1: the way I phrased it, Ken, So happy Valentine's Day,
Speaker 1: my friend.
Speaker 3: Thank you for the time.
Speaker 2: I appreciate it, sense, I appreciate the awkwardness of our interviews.
Speaker 3: Are enjoy my goodness?
Speaker 1: Thank you, Ken, Ken palm orright Ken kenpom dot com.
Speaker 1: I asked him if he needed to perform tonight for
Speaker 1: Valentine's Day.
Speaker 3: I don't know I don't know who's thinking. It's been
Speaker 3: a long week, it's Friday. I'm tired.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of radio, but we appreciate Ken traversing
Speaker 1: on from the awkward start of the conversation for some
Speaker 1: good college basketball on a Friday