Speaker 1: We've got playoff hockey all in the station tonight. Carolina
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Speaker 2: You can hear that on the fans.
Speaker 1: So playoff basketball, playoff hockey Tonight, we'll switch gears.
Speaker 2: We'll talk a little soccer. Little RSL.
Speaker 1: The head coach over Al sal Lake is our guest
Speaker 1: on a Tuesday afternoon. Pablo masjo Eddie, Happy Tuesday, sir.
Speaker 2: How are we doing Tuesdays? Well, I'm well, I'm well.
Speaker 1: I hate to start with a low hanging fruit, but
Speaker 1: it's been a minute, my guy, it's been a minute
Speaker 1: since we've seen a goal.
Speaker 2: I believe the official tally is two hundred and forty
Speaker 2: six minutes.
Speaker 1: I know, we keep revisiting this and every week it
Speaker 1: feels like you are liking what you're seeing as far
Speaker 1: as the chances that have been created, it's the finishing
Speaker 1: that is left wanting.
Speaker 2: Are you still in that space?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know, I think so. You know, it's it's
Speaker 3: it's been tough to see, like the amount of time again.
Speaker 3: I think one of the things that we've really worked
Speaker 3: on since last year, has been progressing the ball from
Speaker 3: our goal to their opponent's goal. And and to be fair,
Speaker 3: it's not real sexy. It gives us a lot of
Speaker 3: control of the game, but we're really really proficient at that.
Speaker 3: And then you know, even this morning, just broke down
Speaker 3: all the different chances that some of them were not
Speaker 3: even getting shots on, and they just come down to
Speaker 3: decision making, patience. Some we have to go faster, some
Speaker 3: we have to go slower, and so just kind of
Speaker 3: breaking the different scenarios down for the guys so that
Speaker 3: they can you know, digest it, we can train it.
Speaker 3: We train it, say, we'll train it the rest of
Speaker 3: this week and hopefully, you know, because if we don't
Speaker 3: have that one guy that's gonna you know, and dig
Speaker 3: a little has been that guy and it's obviously a
Speaker 3: big burden to carry and it's not going to happen
Speaker 3: every game. So how how can we now figure out
Speaker 3: different solutions more as a front five as opposed to
Speaker 3: just relying on one or two guys. And so that's
Speaker 3: that's really the methodology that we're going to take as
Speaker 3: to how we're gonna flip this around and find more
Speaker 3: ways to goals and then hopefully for those five front
Speaker 3: fiber operating in Unison, then we can release a pivot
Speaker 3: a little bit higher that give us a six attacker,
Speaker 3: so that hopefully again doing it by numbers, doing it
Speaker 3: by committee, and doing it more as a collective. And
Speaker 3: so that's it's been frustrating. But again, you know, you know,
Speaker 3: we have all the pieces that we're going to have
Speaker 3: for for the time being, and the onus is on
Speaker 3: myself to and the coaches to find solutions to get
Speaker 3: these guys hitting balls in the back of that.
Speaker 1: Look, man, I know you're an extremely positive person and
Speaker 1: I appreciate that about you, but I also watch you
Speaker 1: play for a lot of years and I feel like
Speaker 1: I know you a little bit, and I know that
Speaker 1: there's a stone cold killer and a competitor in there somewhere.
Speaker 1: At what point does it does it become frustrating? At
Speaker 1: what point does it become like what else can I
Speaker 1: do to get this thing going in the right direction?
Speaker 3: Yeah, you know again, I think I think were you know, uh,
Speaker 3: proud to say that I've evolved a little bit from
Speaker 3: that from that, I mean, I still have that deep
Speaker 3: deep inside or else I wouldn't be in this in
Speaker 3: this profession because it is all about winning. But there's
Speaker 3: also like, you know what, I have to be the
Speaker 3: example for the rest of the guys, right, Like I
Speaker 3: can sit here and be frustrated until my hands in
Speaker 3: the air and place blame. But at the end of
Speaker 3: the day, you know, I have to have a cool head.
Speaker 3: I have to find solutions. I have to relay and
Speaker 3: sell that solution to the players. And that's the that's
Speaker 3: the that's the beauty of the scraft, you know, because
Speaker 3: it's it's really easy to say, hey, listen, we lost
Speaker 3: forty something goals from last year. We're not going to
Speaker 3: be able to score goals. But the beauty of coaching
Speaker 3: is finding different solutions to new problems. And and so
Speaker 3: for me, you know, the one thing identified identified three
Speaker 3: different things in the attack that we the ways we
Speaker 3: can score goals. One is offensive set pieces, right, and
Speaker 3: that's nothing to do with anyone in particular. That's good
Speaker 3: delivery and bravery and getting in the box.
Speaker 4: Uh.
Speaker 3: The other part is decisions and execution in the final third.
Speaker 3: And those are the things that we're going to continue
Speaker 3: to work on. That we worked on today, and we
Speaker 3: work on the rest of the week. And and the
Speaker 3: third thing is is making sure our shape behind the
Speaker 3: ball is such that we can create repetitive attacks and
Speaker 3: releasing a pivot and and so that we can from
Speaker 3: one attack we can get three or four opportunities. So
Speaker 3: like that is that that's our action plan for the week.
Speaker 3: That's that's those are the areas that we've identified we
Speaker 3: can make games, and I think that's what the that's
Speaker 3: where my focus lies. So when you talk about frustration,
Speaker 3: it's when you stop coming up with different pathways to
Speaker 3: achieve a goal. I think is when you get frustrated.
Speaker 3: And I think from a coaching perspective that frustration is
Speaker 3: about yourself. And so that's where that's where I stay
Speaker 3: positive because there's always a solution. You just have to
Speaker 3: ask the right questions to get to the right to
Speaker 3: the right solutions and put a game plan in place
Speaker 3: to achieve those. And so that's the plan obviously. You know,
Speaker 3: like you said, I think winning is the thing that
Speaker 3: drives all of us athletes, is it is the holy grail.
Speaker 3: And when you're not doing that, it's really easy to
Speaker 3: get down on yourself, down on down on everyone, down
Speaker 3: on life. But it's really about being resilient and for me,
Speaker 3: more importantly, being the type of me behaving like the
Speaker 3: type of player I want to see out in the field.
Speaker 3: And that's even though it's it's it's not going well,
Speaker 3: you still believe, you're positive, you're finding solutions, and you're
Speaker 3: approaching every day like it's a great opportunity to get better.
Speaker 2: Fair enough, impressive growth.
Speaker 1: I was going to make a joke about sending my
Speaker 1: father to fight you in the locker room, but we
Speaker 1: don't have to do that today, Pablo.
Speaker 2: We can leave that. I'm impressed. I'm impressed.
Speaker 1: You're a great example to somebody like me who has
Speaker 1: a little fire that you I don't need to throw
Speaker 1: them monopoly board if I'm playing Monopoly with my eight
Speaker 1: year old nephew, Okay, Like, yeah, I'm with you. I
Speaker 1: just I hate to keep digging here, man, I just
Speaker 1: I don't know. Like I watch your post game presser
Speaker 1: and there was a little something there after the Colorado
Speaker 1: l and I see on the sideline, like I just
Speaker 1: have to imagine if I'm as frustrated as I am
Speaker 1: watching your club and attack right now, I just have
Speaker 1: to imagine at times you're looking around at teams that
Speaker 1: have payrolls ten times more than yours, and we were
Speaker 1: all expecting something more during the primary transfer window and
Speaker 1: it didn't come.
Speaker 2: Like, how are you?
Speaker 1: I guess what I'll ask is, how are you digesting
Speaker 1: all this stuff when it does feel like you're entering
Speaker 1: a lot of matches up against it based off the
Speaker 1: players you have at your disposal.
Speaker 3: Yeah, again, you know it's crazy, And I guess maybe
Speaker 3: I'm an eternal optimist, but like, it's so hard to build,
Speaker 3: like to build teams that are perennial playoff contenders and
Speaker 3: championship like, it takes time, and that's why I want
Speaker 3: to I'll go back to what I said at the beginning,
Speaker 3: is we started this project last year as far as
Speaker 3: changing our shape and really being ball secure and ball
Speaker 3: dominant in the way we build from the back. And
Speaker 3: you know, there's there's a bunch of crazy stats there
Speaker 3: is We're one of the top teams in the league
Speaker 3: is going from our goal to our opponent's final third, Right,
Speaker 3: So that's a status and no one cares about that.
Speaker 3: That's useless information. As far as you know results, go
Speaker 3: game to game. The hardest thing to do in soccer
Speaker 3: is really that final third, and I just feel that
Speaker 3: we are so close to hit in the back of
Speaker 3: the net. And there's all in every game. I can
Speaker 3: show you six or seven different if there was one
Speaker 3: decision made differently, it would hit the back of the net.
Speaker 3: And you obviously can't joystick the guys, so you're giving
Speaker 3: them information and they're learning on the fly and so
Speaker 3: they're trying to digest this information and delivered in real time,
Speaker 3: and so like, I feel really good about our offense
Speaker 3: until we get to the final third, and that's really
Speaker 3: where you know, and you saw it last year with
Speaker 3: guys like Gomez and guys like you know, Chicho. They
Speaker 3: were scoring goals with very little x G and it
Speaker 3: made the coaching seem like we were geniuses at the time, right,
Speaker 3: And it was really them making plays. And that's what
Speaker 3: I was alluding to after the game, is like just
Speaker 3: somebody smash the ball on top bin from twenty yards out,
Speaker 3: you know, Somebody get across the front of the defender
Speaker 3: and flick one in the back post, you know, And
Speaker 3: it's just about making plays. But oftentimes when you're not
Speaker 3: scoring a lot of goals, spence, what ends up happening
Speaker 3: is that run is a little bit late, that passes
Speaker 3: a little bit late because you start overthinking it, you know,
Speaker 3: and it doesn't come. It's not natural to you, right,
Speaker 3: We're not operating in the flow state, and so it is.
Speaker 3: It's tough and again and and I actually feel for
Speaker 3: the it's my frustration, but I feel for the guys
Speaker 3: because it's very difficult to come in after damn the
Speaker 3: same guys. But ninety percent of the game, you guys
Speaker 3: on both sides of the ball are doing a great job,
Speaker 3: and I can't give them the the you know, the
Speaker 3: the know how in real time where seconds and inches
Speaker 3: are the difference between scoring and not scoring. That type
Speaker 3: of experience one because I was in a goalscorer myself.
Speaker 3: But they just, you know, they're just lacking that little
Speaker 3: bit of that that polish, that that that nowse you know.
Speaker 3: And and like I said earlier, Diego lun has been
Speaker 3: the guy that's been doing that for us, and it's
Speaker 3: impossible to expect a guy that hasn't typically scored you know,
Speaker 3: ten fifteen twenty goals a season to be that guy
Speaker 3: every single game. And so I feel for him as
Speaker 3: well because he's doing a ton of work for us,
Speaker 3: and at the end of the day, we all as
Speaker 3: a team come into that locker room frustrated and it's
Speaker 3: really about one phase of the game that can really
Speaker 3: turn this thing on a screws and so it's it's
Speaker 3: you know, if nothing else it's going, it's going to
Speaker 3: bring our you know, the way I feel about the
Speaker 3: way we train today, it's again Tuesdays for me are
Speaker 3: the day because after a tough result, you can you
Speaker 3: can drop tools, you cannot believe. But these guys got
Speaker 3: after today and they're full of belief and commitment and
Speaker 3: the energy was just spot on. And so you know,
Speaker 3: as long as we have that we have, we do
Speaker 3: have a chance. And so now it's just about as
Speaker 3: a collective working extremely hard, believing harder than anyone does.
Speaker 3: Because once you get the first goal, the second goal,
Speaker 3: then they start coming in droves, and who knows, it
Speaker 3: might be Gozo that's going to be a ten goal
Speaker 3: scorer this year.
Speaker 1: At the risk of the laboring the point I have
Speaker 1: one more I guess not to be redundant point to
Speaker 1: make here. And once upon a time in MLS it
Speaker 1: was a little bit different than it is now. Like
Speaker 1: the two thousand and nine team we had here that
Speaker 1: won the Cup was not near the highest baid roster
Speaker 1: in MLS. They beat the team that was the highest
Speaker 1: bade roster in MLS that had a guy named David
Speaker 1: Beckham on it had a guy named Landon Donovan on it.
Speaker 1: The league has changed sixteen years fifteen, sixteen years later,
Speaker 1: so now we can talk about it as more of
Speaker 1: a grown up, big boy league. Although I do think
Speaker 1: there are several things about the infrastructure league that need
Speaker 1: to be looked at. That's just me personally, and whether
Speaker 1: it's NFL, NBA, NHL. There is one thing, Pablo, and
Speaker 1: it's now prevalent in MLS they can even the playing field,
Speaker 1: and that is economic investment in talent period period, period period. Okay,
Speaker 1: it didn't used to be that way, but it is
Speaker 1: that way. And you have not received that from the
Speaker 1: front office or the ownership. You just haven't, Okay, So
Speaker 1: I just need to know how that lands with you.
Speaker 3: Again, Spence. I mean there's times where I'm watching other
Speaker 3: teams and the way they go about it, and I'm saying,
Speaker 3: if we just had that just that one guy, because again,
Speaker 3: I you know, I think We're two attacking players away
Speaker 3: from being a top team in this conference and in
Speaker 3: this league. Two top and again why too, Well, One,
Speaker 3: they'll help with the goals, but two, it will also
Speaker 3: activate Luna in a different way. Right now, Luna is
Speaker 3: the guy that's being double team triple teams. And it
Speaker 3: just it's it's and it's a tough ask to, you know,
Speaker 3: to to ask a guy like you know, you know,
Speaker 3: Dom or Gozo or his Seuss or Wolf or you know,
Speaker 3: to be the guy that scores goals when you know
Speaker 3: historically it hasn't happened. And so I agree that investment
Speaker 3: is really important. You've got to have that. And I
Speaker 3: do believe with two players that that we can we
Speaker 3: be an No one would recognize our team. They wouldn't
Speaker 3: recognize all the work that's being done and the commitment,
Speaker 3: the the graph, the quality from our goal to to
Speaker 3: the final third. But I think that two players would,
Speaker 3: I mean, two players have proven experience, would would make
Speaker 3: the biggest difference in the world. And and and you know,
Speaker 3: I've talked to Kurt and Jason. I think we're all
Speaker 3: on the same page as as to what we need
Speaker 3: in order to be you know, a real contender, because again,
Speaker 3: it's really hard to get all the phases right, and
Speaker 3: I'm saying we have on both sides of the ball.
Speaker 3: I would say we have, you know, five to the
Speaker 3: six phases unlocked. Well, we're up there with the top
Speaker 3: of the league. But the one that sticks out the
Speaker 3: most is that final third. And like you said, two
Speaker 3: hundred and something minutes without a goal, you know, that's
Speaker 3: that's where the pressure just keeps mountain on the defense.
Speaker 3: It keeps mounting on the guys trying to score goals
Speaker 3: because they're just not coming in and offensively try to
Speaker 3: do more than defensively. You can only withstand so much
Speaker 3: pressure before you know you're playing from a place if
Speaker 3: we can't get one up, because if we do, how
Speaker 3: are we going to score goals? And I just think
Speaker 3: those two top players would alleviate all that for us
Speaker 3: and would put us in the right direction.
Speaker 2: All right, we can move off of it.
Speaker 1: The sun is shining, it's Tuesday, it's a nice day,
Speaker 1: so let's move off of it. But I do have
Speaker 1: one more I don't know if it's an uncomfortable question,
Speaker 1: but you took Diego off in the fifty eighth minute
Speaker 1: pre plan, sending a message something I'm not seeing.
Speaker 2: What was it, what went into that decision.
Speaker 3: No, you know, I think after reviewing the game, I
Speaker 3: probably should have left him on. Uh you know, he was,
Speaker 3: he was leggy on the Wednesday at home, and probably
Speaker 3: left him on for twenty minutes too long. But again
Speaker 3: I think this for me, it's just it's just it's
Speaker 3: a it's a tough situation as well. Right, So I
Speaker 3: probably left him on twenty minutes too long in the
Speaker 3: Portland game, but I'm thinking to myself, we're at home,
Speaker 3: we need to win. Who's going to score the goals? Right?
Speaker 3: So then I left him on the Colorado game, he
Speaker 3: was he was leggy from the start and came out
Speaker 3: the halftime, he says, coach, I got I got more
Speaker 3: tank and I was like, all right, well let's let's
Speaker 3: see it now. And to be fair, when when I
Speaker 3: decided in the sixtieth minute, he wasn't really involved in
Speaker 3: the play except right before he came out, and at
Speaker 3: that moment I should have pulled the sub back and said, no,
Speaker 3: Diego is going to win this, you know, win this
Speaker 3: game for us. And so that's probably the you know,
Speaker 3: that's on me. But it was. But it's also you know,
Speaker 3: three games in a row where he's put in max effort.
Speaker 3: You know, the amount of running he does is through
Speaker 3: the roof. We're playing down a man in Dallas, so
Speaker 3: I was half cognizant of not running them through the ringer.
Speaker 3: You know, he wasn't really involved in the game, and
Speaker 3: I was like, Okay, maybe this is, you know, an
Speaker 3: opportunity for some fresh legs, but I think in hindsight,
Speaker 3: I should have kept them on and maybe run him
Speaker 3: through the ringer. But then my biggest fear is if
Speaker 3: we lose a guy like Luna, then then then it's
Speaker 3: catastrophic as well. So it's it's it's all those different
Speaker 3: variables that went into it, but after review, you should
Speaker 3: have left them in the game.
Speaker 2: I like that transparency and honesty.
Speaker 1: But speaking of the potential of losing a guy like Luna,
Speaker 1: I was not in Colorado, which is probably why you lost.
Speaker 2: But we've been over that.
Speaker 1: So I was watching the Apple broadcast when something really
Speaker 1: caught my ear, namely the broadcaster saying that you, Pablo
Speaker 1: told them that you'd be surprised if Diego Luna is
Speaker 1: still with the club after the summer European transfer window.
Speaker 1: Is that something that you told them, And if so,
Speaker 1: can you elaborate on that please?
Speaker 3: Yeah? No, I think that was completely out of context.
Speaker 2: Ok.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Luna's Luna is a guy that is near and
Speaker 3: dear to my heart only because the transformation that he's
Speaker 3: had since he's been here. And and obviously that's that's
Speaker 3: all on Luna, because he the work that he's put in.
Speaker 3: And you know, we're talking about Luna's trajectory. And I
Speaker 3: was saying when he got here, he didn't want to
Speaker 3: didn't want to defend, didn't want to help the team,
Speaker 3: could could care less about, you know, just the only
Speaker 3: thing he really wanted was get on the ball. And
Speaker 3: I was talking about how the national team is speaking
Speaker 3: about him and how they say he's a guy that
Speaker 3: plays with stones, right he steps on the field and
Speaker 3: he has a presence so even when maybe the attacking
Speaker 3: stuff isn't working, that he still contributes massively to the
Speaker 3: team and the spirit of the team. And so then
Speaker 3: I said, was it was in context of how how
Speaker 3: fast he's got he's gone from the player he was
Speaker 3: to the player he is. And so I said, along
Speaker 3: that same trajectory, I wouldn't be surprised if he's not
Speaker 3: here at the end of the summer, because someone's going
Speaker 3: to come in and pay twenty five million dollars or
Speaker 3: whatever it is to take him somewhere else, you know.
Speaker 3: But I think and and I think the big the
Speaker 3: biggest thing with that is too is you know, with
Speaker 3: with the ownership change, there's uh and it's just been
Speaker 3: mentioned to me recently, which is really exciting is ownership
Speaker 3: doesn't want to sell players moving forward. They want to
Speaker 3: build a team that the community can get to know, support,
Speaker 3: have their favorite players, and build and build something that's long,
Speaker 3: long term. And so that was news to me. Obviously,
Speaker 3: I never want to lose Luna. I think that he's
Speaker 3: he's a player that can you know, a lot like
Speaker 3: Hobby Morales back in the day, where he's a game changer,
Speaker 3: he's a he's he's a guy that starts the attack,
Speaker 3: finishes the attacks. He's he's one of the most likable
Speaker 3: people you will ever meet in your life and someone
Speaker 3: that you always want to root for. So, at least
Speaker 3: from my perspective, you know, if if if Luna stays
Speaker 3: here at the club, it would be it'd be I
Speaker 3: think the best thing for ourselves moving forward, because he
Speaker 3: is a He is a player that is I wouldn't
Speaker 3: say is irreplaceable, but you'd have to you'd have to
Speaker 3: open up the bank to get a player that it
Speaker 3: is committed and has the type of investment that that
Speaker 3: he has as an attacking player on both sides of
Speaker 3: the ball. That that is that is just starting, you know,
Speaker 3: to make the leap from young player too now superstar.
Speaker 3: So that that I think, So that was that was
Speaker 3: taken out of context. It was It wasn't me wanting
Speaker 3: to move lunaan. I was just speaking towards his trajectory
Speaker 3: and how fast it's been. And I wouldn't be surprised
Speaker 3: given how how far he's coming a year and a half,
Speaker 3: two years to where he could potentially go. But hopefully
Speaker 3: it's here at ourselves for the long term.
Speaker 1: So I think it's safe to say that Gail Miller
Speaker 1: and Steve Starks listen to the show, because that's I've
Speaker 1: just been begging for this forever. Pablo, Hey, Porter, real quick,
Speaker 1: will you go ahead and formulate a press release that
Speaker 1: Pablo on the show has indicated Diego Luna is going
Speaker 1: to be an RSL Man for life. Can you get
Speaker 1: that done? Yeah, thank you, sir. I kid I kid buck.
Speaker 1: I know the bottom line of what the club is
Speaker 1: trying to do. But that news, Pablo, is something that
Speaker 1: is also news to me. That had to be music
Speaker 1: to your ears.
Speaker 3: Yes, to be fair, I mean again, and I think
Speaker 3: this is like a big part of like the unknowns
Speaker 3: that have been kind of happening. The underpinnings is obviously
Speaker 3: the move of the transfer of ownership, and obviously there's
Speaker 3: different philosophies of different groups, and working with GFH and
Speaker 3: David Blitzer has been amazing. It's opened mindes with different
Speaker 3: ways of doing things. They care about the club, they
Speaker 3: look at it from a different perspective, and so I
Speaker 3: think the Miller is being you know, family here and
Speaker 3: you off for so many years and love their sports
Speaker 3: and want to build something that the fans can hang
Speaker 3: their hat on. Is just think about it from a
Speaker 3: coaching perspective, we you know, we put a lot of
Speaker 3: you know, time and energy into a guy like on
Speaker 3: Grace Gomez where you know, he came in wasn't proven
Speaker 3: and it took about a year for him to get
Speaker 3: up to speed and then he just took off like
Speaker 3: a rocket, and I thought, you know, it just feels
Speaker 3: like you're almost like a you know, you're you're raising
Speaker 3: these you're helping develop these young players, and then they
Speaker 3: leave at the time where you think they can make
Speaker 3: huge impacts not only at the club from a plane perspective,
Speaker 3: but in the community and and and and you know,
Speaker 3: like guys like Beckerman that we're at the club a
Speaker 3: long time. I mean fans you say Beckerman, and everyone
Speaker 3: knows who you're talking about, and it's like it just
Speaker 3: feels good. And from a coaching perspective, it's great to
Speaker 3: see that, you know, some of the the time and energy,
Speaker 3: and it's not all soccer. A lot of it's about
Speaker 3: life and how to be a good pro and how
Speaker 3: to look after yourself and how to how to you know,
Speaker 3: how to carry a little bit more, uh, you know,
Speaker 3: responsibility and all these little things that you go and
Speaker 3: see these guys and and and you know, and Beckerman
Speaker 3: still lives here and so now he's given back to
Speaker 3: the community. So it's I think it's a gift that
Speaker 3: keeps on giving. But from our standpoint as coaches, is
Speaker 3: it makes the work more meaningful when you know that
Speaker 3: there's a pot that they could potentially be here long term,
Speaker 3: and it may and it just you can go all in.
Speaker 3: It's not like a short term thing. You can go
Speaker 3: all in and and and make the necessary decisions to
Speaker 3: help them more longer term, which I think is is
Speaker 3: even better for him. So music to my ears. I
Speaker 3: think that's why we do it, is to build something
Speaker 3: that sustainable, build a team that can be a perennial
Speaker 3: playoff team that competes with trophies every year. And the
Speaker 3: only way you do that is continuity and and so
Speaker 3: you know, helping Luna in his journey, but more importantly,
Speaker 3: having the ability to keep him around is truly, uh,
Speaker 3: music to my ears. As you said, yeah for.
Speaker 1: Sure, and look you nailed it at the end. It's
Speaker 1: also the only way to win, dude, It just is.
Speaker 1: It's the only way to win. Like otherwise, we're spinning
Speaker 1: our wheels, the fans are upset. There's nobody that's your
Speaker 1: long term and it does a disservice to you. So
Speaker 1: we'll end on one more positive note that I'll set
Speaker 1: you loose after this. I think he got something in
Speaker 1: this Gozo kid. I don't know much about him, but
Speaker 1: you've been giving them times and starts over the past
Speaker 1: little bit. And look, he's young, he's raw, but you
Speaker 1: can see there's something there isn't there.
Speaker 3: I'll tell you what, and it's a little bit, you know.
Speaker 3: I don't want to go crazy with the with the comparisons,
Speaker 3: because I think they're all very unique but raw talent.
Speaker 3: He has. The one thing that's true with Andreas, that's
Speaker 3: true with Diego, Luna, and true with Gozo is that
Speaker 3: they're all learners. Right, So the young players with a
Speaker 3: lot of talent, but they're also aware that they don't
Speaker 3: know everything, and so what they do is they go,
Speaker 3: you know, you give them. I was working with Gozo
Speaker 3: today on his crossing right because that's an area I
Speaker 3: think he can make games, and just gave him a
Speaker 3: just a way to think about how he crosses the ball,
Speaker 3: and he started delivering really good balls. And so it's like,
Speaker 3: this is for me, the beauty of coaching is like
Speaker 3: sharing your experience, but more important, you have to have
Speaker 3: a willing participant receiving it. If they know everything, then
Speaker 3: there's no there's no need for a coach, right, And
Speaker 3: so I think those are the similarities between the three
Speaker 3: of them. And I think what Gozo has is really
Speaker 3: high end speed, really high end work rate defensively, and
Speaker 3: what he's doing every day after practice is sharpening his
Speaker 3: tools in front of goal, so shooting, crossing, passing, you know,
Speaker 3: all these little things. And so there is no doubt
Speaker 3: that Gozo is going to be a top player in
Speaker 3: this league. And again, is it two years from now,
Speaker 3: is it next year, is it four years from now?
Speaker 3: Is I don't know. But he has all the footballing
Speaker 3: characteristics that can make him a top pro physical, physical,
Speaker 3: and you know, technical, But more importantly, he's got the
Speaker 3: character of a guy that I believe will be a
Speaker 3: learner and he'll get it. He will figure it out,
Speaker 3: and he will understand what his role is and what
Speaker 3: his craft is in putting all together. In the short term,
Speaker 3: the way he's helping our group is he just brings
Speaker 3: so much enthusiasm and energy at a time where our
Speaker 3: team really really needs it. So he's been special for
Speaker 3: us now, but I really believe he'll be a special
Speaker 3: player for this club in the future.
Speaker 2: Well, Pob's my guy.
Speaker 1: I feel like today with therapy, we exercise some demons,
Speaker 1: we talked through some issues and then we ended in
Speaker 1: the nest in the safe place.
Speaker 3: Right, let's go. It's all good, Spins. I appreciate you.
Speaker 3: I'll send you the check for the therapy session.
Speaker 2: Love it.
Speaker 1: The Pablo mastionroy head coach over Veryal Salek Grsel welcomes
Speaker 1: in the best team in Major League Soccer, Vancouver coming
Speaker 1: up seven point thirty on Saturday. If you missed that
Speaker 1: interview and you're an RSL fan, the big titbit is
Speaker 1: that recently Pablo is told that the new ownership group,
Speaker 1: which of course led by the Miller family, not interested
Speaker 1: in selling any of these young talent to players. Does
Speaker 1: that mean it will never happen. No, but it's the
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