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<v Speaker 1>Get ready tenth day of January twenty twenty five.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyway, I've been away for a bit, and uh, we're

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<v Speaker 2>live tonight though on a Friday night, So guess what

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<v Speaker 2>that means. You can call in and join us if

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<v Speaker 2>anybody's listening, if anybody just even bothered to check in

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<v Speaker 2>to see.

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<v Speaker 1>If I'm still alive. How about that? Three one nine

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<v Speaker 1>five two seven five zero one six We are live.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know, maybe we should check the chat room.

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<v Speaker 1>Let me check that out. Be Pete is with me,

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<v Speaker 1>my co host, and you guys can join us.

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<v Speaker 2>You can also reach out Charles dot O'Kelly on Skype

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<v Speaker 2>if you like.

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<v Speaker 1>Looks like there's a couple of people in the chat room.

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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, if you're hearing us live on the radio

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<v Speaker 2>on Friyger's Day, there just past eight pm Eastern, guess

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<v Speaker 2>what we're live. And I'll put up this as a

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<v Speaker 2>replay later and you'll hear it in replace on the station.

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<v Speaker 1>But anyway, it is what it is. V Pete.

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<v Speaker 3>How you doing, I'm doing good, doing good glads? Friday.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, yeah, past couple of Fridays, I haven't been able

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<v Speaker 2>to get here though. That's what sucks about being the

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<v Speaker 2>only guy who can actually run the producer board.

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<v Speaker 1>You know.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, A lot's happened though since last time we were

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<v Speaker 4>on got stuff burning down.

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<v Speaker 3>And stuff blowing up, and I mean it's just amazing.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, California's on fire. Yawn, that's normal, isn't it?

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<v Speaker 1>Every year?

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<v Speaker 5>Not this bad.

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<v Speaker 3>It's been a while since something this bad as happened.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it said Los Angeles was surrounded, right.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, yeah, it's all the way down Malibu and Palisades

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<v Speaker 4>area and up in the hills had three major fires

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<v Speaker 4>and they had five fires. I haven't checked the total

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<v Speaker 4>here lately, but yeah, they're thinking some of it's are

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<v Speaker 4>so and some of it could have been electrical lines

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<v Speaker 4>or something short.

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<v Speaker 1>Now isn't that always the case, right?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, some of it an accident, some of it's

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<v Speaker 2>somebody lit a fire somewhere.

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, isn't that always the case?

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<v Speaker 4>Problem?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, the problem is is the had Santa Ana winds

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<v Speaker 3>going on.

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<v Speaker 4>Usually they die out first part of December, but they're

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<v Speaker 4>still kicking up pretty high.

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<v Speaker 3>They had a low system in a high.

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<v Speaker 4>System sitting right above each other, and because of the

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<v Speaker 4>counter rotation, it just forces winds down to the canyons,

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<v Speaker 4>and that's been the problem.

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<v Speaker 3>I mean, one hundred mile an hour gusts.

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<v Speaker 4>You look at the sustained wins forty five to fifty

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<v Speaker 4>miles an hour down to the canyon.

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<v Speaker 3>So it's really you get one fire going and it

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<v Speaker 3>gets away. That's it. I mean, it's lit up.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, there you go.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, you know, and what's going to happen anyway?

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<v Speaker 2>What is going to go on with social media? In

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<v Speaker 2>the next couple of weeks. Metas decided to give into

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<v Speaker 2>Trump entirely and even a fund is what is inauguration

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<v Speaker 2>and all the rest of the media, they're.

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<v Speaker 1>All on the side. Now it's a weird world.

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<v Speaker 4>Go ahead, Amazon, who else did I see just gave

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<v Speaker 4>a million dollars to his inaugural?

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<v Speaker 1>Was it Amazon? Right?

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<v Speaker 4>And then there was an Amazon and it was just

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<v Speaker 4>this past week they donated another usually left leaning group.

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<v Speaker 3>Surprised me, But yeah, I mean, but that just goes

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<v Speaker 3>to show you.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, you look at the actions of the people,

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<v Speaker 4>the higher ups and Democratic Party in the past two weeks,

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<v Speaker 4>and you look at the change of heart that a.

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<v Speaker 3>Lot of these institutions are having.

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<v Speaker 4>They're all backing out of DEI now basically doing away

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<v Speaker 4>with it. And you know, you get a DEI higher

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<v Speaker 4>persistent chief of uh Fire Department in l A telling people, well,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, if if I've got if I, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you complain because I can't carry your husband out of

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<v Speaker 4>a house.

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<v Speaker 3>But if I've got to carry your husband out of

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<v Speaker 3>the house, he got in the wrong place anyway.

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<v Speaker 6>You know this crap.

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<v Speaker 4>It's it's amazing what's happened just in the past two weeks.

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<v Speaker 3>Total change of things. I mean on.

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<v Speaker 4>Every aspect of the news or media that you look at,

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<v Speaker 4>you're seeing exec one, eighties chip clops, mayhem and ah damage,

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<v Speaker 4>natural disasters or in California though, I mean, I really

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<v Speaker 4>feel for those people because if that's a no win

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<v Speaker 4>situation out there, well, I.

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<v Speaker 2>Guess we get to see what happens when the Republicans

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<v Speaker 2>are completely in charge, right, That's all there is.

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<v Speaker 3>That's like the discussion we had many January.

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<v Speaker 4>Well, you've already got Congress in charge, So the Republicans

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<v Speaker 4>own whatever happens right now in the Congress, in the Senate.

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<v Speaker 1>In my opinion, they you know, call them on it.

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<v Speaker 4>You don't give them any length of time. You go

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<v Speaker 4>from day one and hold them accountable. And on January twenty,

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<v Speaker 4>we get to hold the Orange Man accountable.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but but not Elon you see, not not not

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<v Speaker 2>the billionaires.

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<v Speaker 1>No, I don't don't forget those guys.

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<v Speaker 3>Accountable very easily.

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<v Speaker 2>He's going to be part of a government or organization

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<v Speaker 2>that's not even official.

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<v Speaker 1>How you're gonna hold this guy caunider?

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<v Speaker 3>So what, he's an advisor.

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<v Speaker 4>He's like any other advisor that's been for any other

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<v Speaker 4>president out there.

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<v Speaker 3>It just matters that you decide to suck up too.

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<v Speaker 2>It's just that he's a he's a maniac, and he's

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<v Speaker 2>from South Africa.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's okay.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, well what I look at the history, look

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<v Speaker 4>at all the look at all the presidential advisors that

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<v Speaker 4>we've had. Of course, now you got to admit the

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<v Speaker 4>last four years really don't know who in the hell

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<v Speaker 4>was advising who.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that was a mystery exactly. See now that was

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<v Speaker 2>a mystery. No longer will it be a mystery. It'll

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<v Speaker 2>be the highest bidder, say that'll be the way it is.

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<v Speaker 3>At least you know who to hold accountable though, So

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<v Speaker 3>but you can't.

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<v Speaker 4>You got to let him get in, Let him screw

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<v Speaker 4>up until we start, you know, dumping on them, get

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<v Speaker 4>in their chair.

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<v Speaker 1>Hey, hey, I'm not dumping on anybody.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm just laughing because I'm watching the media do exactly

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<v Speaker 2>what I felt they were doing in the first place,

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<v Speaker 2>except they were Raymond Trump is a bad guy for

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<v Speaker 2>a long time.

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<v Speaker 1>But they were using him for content. They were using

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<v Speaker 1>him for rade.

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<v Speaker 2>They were riding on his back no matter what they

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<v Speaker 2>said about him. And nobody gets that. Everybody thinks I'm crazy,

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<v Speaker 2>But now watched look at what's happening. Even c Span

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<v Speaker 2>is running constant programs Trump's nominees and their own words.

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<v Speaker 1>We got a call her, by the way, I think

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<v Speaker 1>it's Danny from California. First up? Is that? Who this is?

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<v Speaker 7>Hey?

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, hey, good to hear from you.

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<v Speaker 7>Man.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been down a while. I'm sorry.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm still not at the top of my game. I apologize,

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<v Speaker 2>but I'll tell you I'm I'm laughing at it.

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<v Speaker 1>I've been able to observe. Go ahead.

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<v Speaker 8>Are you stilling better now?

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<v Speaker 1>Well, I'm sitting up. I'll give you that much. I mean, yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean I'm in a lot of pain.

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<v Speaker 2>I dropped thirty pounds. Danny, I dropped thirty pounds in

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<v Speaker 2>a month. So what do you think happened? Thirty pounds?

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<v Speaker 1>I probably dropped off of me.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh my gosh, were you weren't eating or just.

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<v Speaker 3>I couldn't eat.

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't not eat for a couple of weeks. That's

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<v Speaker 2>the way it was. I was that sick, uh, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And it was I'm not even sure exactly how long

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<v Speaker 2>I didn't need for to be honest with you, but

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<v Speaker 2>I think it was two three weeks.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I was really out of it. Man. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not know what day it was.

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<v Speaker 2>I was just not not doing well, uh, you know.

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<v Speaker 2>And and Kim just kept trying to keep me hydrated

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<v Speaker 2>as all because the hospital didn't help.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah. And uh, the hospital didn't help hy No, not

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<v Speaker 1>with hydrate.

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<v Speaker 2>They said, they got I you know what, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>care what I share, right, Look, they got my bowels moving,

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<v Speaker 2>and that was all they did for me and sent

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<v Speaker 2>me home, uh because they thought that was the problem,

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<v Speaker 2>I guess, but that was not the problem.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh yeah, So Kim just you know, forced fluid

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<v Speaker 2>down my throw pretty much and made sure I had

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<v Speaker 2>stuff to drink, and and that was about it. But

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<v Speaker 2>I'm telling you. I wasn't sleeping, I wasn't eating. I

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<v Speaker 2>wasn't I was completely out of it.

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<v Speaker 1>It was just I.

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<v Speaker 2>Can't even tell you what history owners hit me. And

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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you something else. I took a COVID test.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even want that crap, but I took that.

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<v Speaker 1>I didn't have it. That's not what I have. I

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<v Speaker 1>don't know what the hell hit me. Something else, but

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<v Speaker 1>some kind of massive bug beat the ship at it.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm serious. I don't think it was bird flu.

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<v Speaker 2>It didn't act like bird flu.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, but well they got they have bird They have

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<v Speaker 8>bird flu here in central California, and it has effected

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<v Speaker 8>farm workers, but nothing that has been like extreme as

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<v Speaker 8>far as like the human cases happened been extreme. But

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<v Speaker 8>it's it's devastating a lot of the egg and chicken

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<v Speaker 8>farmers here in California.

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<v Speaker 6>I know that.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that's well, that's going to spike those prices, right,

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<v Speaker 2>I mean I don't. I don't buy chicken and eggs

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<v Speaker 2>at this point. But all that's going to do is

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<v Speaker 2>spike those prices pretty much.

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<v Speaker 1>Right.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh yeah, yeah, I mean I didn't.

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<v Speaker 6>I didn't.

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<v Speaker 8>I was went to the store and all of a sudden,

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<v Speaker 8>there's just no eggs. And then I was back two

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<v Speaker 8>days later. There was no eggs, you know. And then

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<v Speaker 8>I went to a different grocery store and there's no eggs.

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<v Speaker 8>And then I started doing a little bit of you know,

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<v Speaker 8>research and found out what the issue was. But sounds

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<v Speaker 8>like something. I wasn't sick for a month, but I

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<v Speaker 8>did have pneumonia in the beginning of December, so I

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<v Speaker 8>was out for about three weeks. But I finally went

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<v Speaker 8>to the doctor because I just knew I wasn't getting better.

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<v Speaker 8>But now, twenty years ago, I had some I think

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<v Speaker 8>it was some type of I never got tested for

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<v Speaker 8>what it was, but it was some type of stars virus,

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<v Speaker 8>I'm pretty sure. And I realized I hadn't gotten out

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<v Speaker 8>of bed in four days, and I was like, and

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<v Speaker 8>I hadn't eaten. And then I realized I was in trouble.

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<v Speaker 8>And I walked in the into the doctor's office and

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<v Speaker 8>I was in pretty bad shape, but they got me in.

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<v Speaker 8>You see, that a long time to cover.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, that kind of thing happened to me about four

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<v Speaker 8>That was traveling.

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<v Speaker 2>But I mean it was rough and I was spitting

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<v Speaker 1>But but whatever, you know, I survived that.

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<v Speaker 1>There was just nothing.

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<v Speaker 2>Everybody who knows me knows I drink soda constantly, right,

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<v Speaker 2>well I don't now because here's what happened. I went

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<v Speaker 2>no more. And it put me off the soda. So

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<v Speaker 1>You know the only thing good water?

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<v Speaker 8>Water is actually better. I mean all that that sugar.

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<v Speaker 8>You know, there's and there's you know, there's a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of they're coming out with, you know, all the spikes

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<v Speaker 8>and diabetes and other other illnesses.

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<v Speaker 8>I gave up soft drinks. I gave it up for lint.

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<v Speaker 8>This was like about thirty years ago, and I pretty

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<v Speaker 8>much don't drink a soft drink. The only time I

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<v Speaker 8>out to dinner, you know, if I'm not going to

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<v Speaker 8>drink either, if I'm not, you know, I either have

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<v Speaker 8>iced tea or one's an occasional I'll have a soft

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<v Speaker 8>drink as a tree that I rarely drink unless I

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<v Speaker 8>want to put some ginger ale in with my Irish whiskey.

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<v Speaker 6>I hardly ever.

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<v Speaker 8>Drink the soft drinks fair enough, and it's kept the

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<v Speaker 8>weight off of me. I know that, And I know

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<v Speaker 8>a lot of people that pound them down and they

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<v Speaker 8>carry a lot of extra way, so good for you

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<v Speaker 8>that you get up the SODA's. But I'm a little

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<v Speaker 8>surprised that they didn't give you an IV because most

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<v Speaker 8>my experience of most people when I've been hosplied my

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<v Speaker 8>wife sounds a lot of health issues and they're always

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<v Speaker 8>suching up an IV. I mean, they're getting you hydrated.

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<v Speaker 1>It's almost standard procedure. It's almost like standard procedure. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>but not for me. See what happened here is okay.

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<v Speaker 2>They test my sugar, they test all these different things,

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<v Speaker 2>and everything's coming back, I mean almost normal, except because

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<v Speaker 2>I was in pain. My heart rate was like elevated

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<v Speaker 2>just a little bit. But I mean, I'm almost a

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<v Speaker 2>textbook guy, even though I've been smoking, you know for

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<v Speaker 2>what forty years and everything else. I'm weird because I

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<v Speaker 2>don't show signs of that, and I drank soda for

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<v Speaker 2>probably thirty years straight, I mean every day, you know

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<v Speaker 2>what I mean. And I'm not a diabetic. I don't

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<v Speaker 2>I don't pop diabetic. I don't even come close, you

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<v Speaker 2>know what I mean. And weird. So they test me

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<v Speaker 2>and they're like everything looks good. You know what's wrong

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<v Speaker 2>with him? And I can't hardly talk. I mean I was,

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<v Speaker 2>I was so out of it, I really, uh mentally,

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<v Speaker 2>I couldn't focus.

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<v Speaker 1>I couldn't I had no strength. I mean, it was

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<v Speaker 1>just it was ridiculous.

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<v Speaker 2>And uh, you know, well they got the bowels moving

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<v Speaker 2>and that's it. And and it was like, well this

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<v Speaker 2>this will straighten itself out. It was it was stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Anyways, I know.

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<v Speaker 2>This isn't what was really on your mind when you

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<v Speaker 2>called in, so uh maybe the eggs thing, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>but but you asked so they.

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<v Speaker 8>They they Yeah, the I asked that they they wasn't

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<v Speaker 8>really one to call about I I wanted to call about.

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<v Speaker 8>We just uh pretty much are buried a president, Jimmy Carter.

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<v Speaker 6>And I think.

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<v Speaker 8>With Carter's presidency in his life, there's the good, bad

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<v Speaker 8>and ugly. The good is he is he's a decent

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<v Speaker 8>human being. I mean, he had integrity, he didn't he

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<v Speaker 8>didn't sell his president and see, like everybody that's followed,

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<v Speaker 8>his presidency was a mixed bag. You know. It was

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<v Speaker 8>a one term. The first time I was had the

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<v Speaker 8>ability to vote an election was to nineteen eighty and

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<v Speaker 8>I voted for the other guy twice.

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<v Speaker 6>But I just.

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<v Speaker 8>One thing that I remember about Carter, like in when

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<v Speaker 8>he first kind of arrived the stage in the primary,

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<v Speaker 8>it was Jimmy who, you know, it was like, who's

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<v Speaker 8>he is the governor of Georgia. And one thing, even

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<v Speaker 8>though I was, you know, came from a very conservative

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<v Speaker 8>Republican home. You know, one thing that made a lot

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<v Speaker 8>of sense because I was in high school at that

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<v Speaker 8>time when he was run that election, and I was

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<v Speaker 8>heavily into reading the Bible, and he talked about human rights,

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<v Speaker 8>and I can just remember so much of the conservative

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<v Speaker 8>people that they kind of like dismissed it, and I

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<v Speaker 8>could never understand. I go, I kind of agreed with you,

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<v Speaker 8>and I didn't agree with anything else at that time

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<v Speaker 8>with his politics, but I think he was consistent and

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<v Speaker 8>I appreciate that. It really kind of helped me. It

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<v Speaker 8>just made sense. That makes insense, regardless of my bias

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<v Speaker 8>at that time. Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it's a different era, you know, the late seventies.

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<v Speaker 2>We're definitely talking about a time that's not even recognizable

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<v Speaker 2>compared to where we're at.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you know what I mean.

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<v Speaker 2>A guy like Carter I don't even think could get

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<v Speaker 2>elected today, you know, not even once. And it was

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<v Speaker 2>a weird break because if you think about it, there

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<v Speaker 2>is a what a thirty year stretch there. Let's see

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<v Speaker 2>from sixty eight on to what it takes until ninety

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<v Speaker 2>two to get Clinton in there? Right, So from from

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<v Speaker 2>sixty eight to ninety two.

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<v Speaker 1>That's the only break in the Republican control of the

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<v Speaker 1>White House. That's the way it is.

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<v Speaker 2>He's that one oddity there, and that's I mean, that's

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<v Speaker 2>all he can say. You know, he was never to

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<v Speaker 2>make a comeback, none of that.

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<v Speaker 1>What did he do.

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<v Speaker 2>He goes out of office, and what does he wind

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<v Speaker 2>up doing for almost the rest of his life is uh,

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<v Speaker 2>you know the habitat for humanity thing, right, So, I mean,

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<v Speaker 2>this is a different kind of guy then you're going

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<v Speaker 2>to see ever again.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh So I think he was kind of the end

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<v Speaker 1>of an arrogant one.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but uh but then again, you know, look, he

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<v Speaker 2>a't c fr people all over his damn cabinet.

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<v Speaker 1>He had lots of problems. He eat a challenge the.

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<v Speaker 2>CIA, bringing Stancefield Turner in there, you know, and uh, hey,

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<v Speaker 2>you know he gotta he gotta give him something. He

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<v Speaker 2>was something different in that long line.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all. I mean, that's the way I see it.

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<v Speaker 2>He didn't didn't get a lot done, and uh definitely

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<v Speaker 2>had a lot of people working against him.

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<v Speaker 1>But it is what it is.

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<v Speaker 8>When party was against him, I remember that. Yeah, he

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<v Speaker 8>really fucked because he wasn't a new dealer. He kind

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<v Speaker 8>of issued in the first neo liberal president, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>and then Reagan took it to another level. Yes, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>that makes sense.

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<v Speaker 2>I'm actually cureurious about what what BP thought of Jimmy Carter.

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<v Speaker 2>I mean, I'm sure you didn't like him too much,

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<v Speaker 2>but realistically, b P, what's your thoughts on Jimmy Carter

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<v Speaker 2>since he's gone?

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<v Speaker 7>Now?

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<v Speaker 3>Well, you know I've said it before.

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<v Speaker 4>He I think he was a good I think he

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<v Speaker 4>was a good governor for Georgia, and I think he

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<v Speaker 4>got elected as more of a revenge vote because of

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<v Speaker 4>Ford partoner Nixon.

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<v Speaker 3>I think that's what kind of ushered him in. People were,

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<v Speaker 3>you know, they saw Nixon.

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<v Speaker 4>Go out the way he did not know in the

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<v Speaker 4>story now the things that we know that were going on,

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<v Speaker 4>but Ford parted him right off the bat, and that

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<v Speaker 4>hurt Ford when he ran it.

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<v Speaker 3>Just I think that's what put Carter.

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<v Speaker 4>In there well as a president and I think he

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<v Speaker 4>sucked okay, But other than that, you know, he was

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<v Speaker 4>he was.

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<v Speaker 3>A good guy.

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<v Speaker 4>He had some degree of integrity, and he did a

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<v Speaker 4>lot of great things after he got out of office.

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<v Speaker 4>For a very long time, he made he made a

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<v Speaker 4>big impact on a lot of people's lives, and you know,

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<v Speaker 4>you can't fault the guy for that. The only thing

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<v Speaker 4>I didn't like was after he got out of office

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<v Speaker 4>his support for groups like Hamas. That kind of surprised me.

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<v Speaker 4>He was somewhat of a bigot when it came to Israel.

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<v Speaker 4>But other than that, you know, he got handed a

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<v Speaker 4>raw deal basically when he went into office and in.

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<v Speaker 3>Fla it was one of those things.

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<v Speaker 4>You know, inflation got so high under him, But inflation

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<v Speaker 4>was high when he came into office.

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<v Speaker 3>We had just gotten out of Vietnam, jacking up coming home.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, it was already jacking up underd.

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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, inflation was jacking up before he got in there.

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<v Speaker 4>It just got worse. We had the oil in Bargo,

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<v Speaker 4>he had to go through that. You know, he really

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<v Speaker 4>had a lot of crap to have to deal with

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<v Speaker 4>that he inherited. Other than his foreign policy, you know,

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<v Speaker 4>I guess he was okay as a president, but I

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<v Speaker 4>think I can't agree that. You know, a lot of

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<v Speaker 4>people called him the worst president. I always joked that,

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<v Speaker 4>you know, the only person that was happy with Joe

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<v Speaker 4>Biden was Jimmy Carter because at least he slides up

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<v Speaker 4>the position number two and Biden takes over as the worst.

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<v Speaker 3>But he did a lot of good things. I we'll

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<v Speaker 3>give him credit for that.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>And look, if people don't know their history either, you

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<v Speaker 2>want to see worst president, why don't you have to

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<v Speaker 2>take a look at Woodrow Wilson. I mean, give me

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<v Speaker 2>a break. This guy and from Jersey too, by.

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<v Speaker 4>The way, Well, you know, FDR wasn't any angel. I know,

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<v Speaker 4>he got elected four times.

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<v Speaker 3>But you talk about, you know, a party boss running

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<v Speaker 3>a party, Well.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go.

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<v Speaker 2>There's a perfect example of an anti constitutional scumbag. Really

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<v Speaker 2>who has been covered has said is ass covered by history.

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<v Speaker 2>I am so tired of people talking about FDR like,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like he's some kind of icon. Still when

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<v Speaker 2>you study the real record there, this guy was a

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<v Speaker 4>You know, Andrew Jackson was somewhat of a pain in

432
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<v Speaker 4>the ass from what I understand.

433
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<v Speaker 2>Another problematic president exactly. But I mean, if I you

434
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<v Speaker 2>got to ask me who the worst guy ever was,

435
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<v Speaker 2>it's Woodrow Wilson.

436
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<v Speaker 3>Well, I mean Carter.

437
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<v Speaker 4>Carter got put in that position because of the people

438
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<v Speaker 4>that I mean, you know, a lot of old timers

439
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<v Speaker 4>are gone Now, the World War Two generation is you know,

440
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<v Speaker 4>not far from being gone.

441
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<v Speaker 3>So you've got the end of the Baby Boomers.

442
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<v Speaker 4>And whatever initial they're given the generation that's there now.

443
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<v Speaker 3>So you got that whole area. Carter is really the president.

444
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<v Speaker 4>A lot of people don't remember Nixon, right, they came

445
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<v Speaker 4>along term Carter or they started paying attention to politics

446
00:20:29.759 --> 00:20:31.960
<v Speaker 4>when Carter got in there. He had a young daughter.

447
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<v Speaker 4>You know, it was and I'm surprised. There's a lot

448
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<v Speaker 4>of people that I know that didn't know that Jimmy

449
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<v Speaker 4>Carter had other kids other than Amy.

450
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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, that's surprising.

451
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<v Speaker 1>And you know he also had the other issues with

452
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<v Speaker 1>like you know, Billy Carter too, right.

453
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<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, but I.

454
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<v Speaker 4>Mean Bill Clinton had his half brother Roger, so you

455
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<v Speaker 4>know it kind of comes with the family.

456
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but you know, a little little little coke deal

457
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<v Speaker 1>over here and there. I mean, Billy was a constant problem.

458
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<v Speaker 1>Well his crisis DoD.

459
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<v Speaker 3>Roger had to get a pardon for his coke deals. Yeah.

460
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<v Speaker 2>Well, but on the other hand, it's his brother who

461
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<v Speaker 2>allowed him to be locked up when he was governor,

462
00:21:08.039 --> 00:21:08.599
<v Speaker 2>too right.

463
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<v Speaker 3>So Billy was not Billy did not. Billy brought some

464
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<v Speaker 3>good headlines though, and he did bring a lot of laughs,

465
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<v Speaker 3>like he was very entertaining. Billy Beer.

466
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I do remember Billy Parlger.

467
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<v Speaker 8>Actually, anyways, Olivia Boliviyan sponsored Billy Beer. He too taking

468
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<v Speaker 8>money from Libya. Billy Carter.

469
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<v Speaker 1>Hey, look, he had to get it, he had.

470
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<v Speaker 3>Hey, the man had to pay, he had to pay

471
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<v Speaker 3>the rent man.

472
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<v Speaker 2>And the biggest problem for this guy, everybody forgets is

473
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<v Speaker 2>the hostage crisis because you know, end of the seventies America,

474
00:21:41.880 --> 00:21:44.640
<v Speaker 2>and nobody wanted to admit the loss in Vietnam, even

475
00:21:44.680 --> 00:21:46.359
<v Speaker 2>we were unbeatable America.

476
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<v Speaker 4>Right, So well, yeah, and then our guy, are you

477
00:21:48.920 --> 00:21:51.880
<v Speaker 4>know our guy and Iran gets booted out, right, and

478
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<v Speaker 4>the one person they didn't want to come back comes

479
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<v Speaker 4>back from France and takes over.

480
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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, I mean that's what I'm saying. Carter just had

481
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<v Speaker 3>a raw deal, right, He really has some sea cardstailed

482
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<v Speaker 3>to him.

483
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<v Speaker 2>No, if he had, if he had not had that

484
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<v Speaker 2>hostage crisis, maybe you wouldn't have had a riggan if he.

485
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<v Speaker 4>Hadn't had the failure on the operation to try to

486
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<v Speaker 4>rescue him. One of the two helicopters ran into each

487
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<v Speaker 4>other and the damn in a sandstorm.

488
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<v Speaker 6>I don't.

489
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<v Speaker 3>So that's what kills me. You know, our military these.

490
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<v Speaker 4>Are the guys that you know, we're trying to win Vietnam.

491
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<v Speaker 4>They're the ones trying to rescue our hostages. That's the

492
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<v Speaker 4>scary part of it.

493
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, but there you go. You know.

494
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<v Speaker 2>But either way, if it didn't happen, or he succeeded

495
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<v Speaker 2>in the rescue, maybe no reagul he had succeeded in

496
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<v Speaker 2>the rescue.

497
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<v Speaker 3>Oh man, he had been re elected.

498
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<v Speaker 2>Then maybe that's what I'm saying. Maybe no reago, you know.

499
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<v Speaker 2>And also the other thing is Kennedy challenging him. That

500
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<v Speaker 2>was idiocy to split the party. So anyway, look, I'm gonna.

501
00:22:44.880 --> 00:22:48.359
<v Speaker 3>Put your Kennedy. Kennedy thought he could jump in.

502
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, when he saw the reaction to caught, you know,

503
00:22:51.960 --> 00:22:54.279
<v Speaker 4>he felt like he could take Carter on just on his.

504
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<v Speaker 1>Name, on his name exactly.

505
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<v Speaker 3>Anyways, too many people remember Chapi quitting.

506
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<v Speaker 1>Maybe we'll maybe we'll ask this next.

507
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<v Speaker 2>Already thinks of Carter, but I doubt it's going to

508
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<v Speaker 2>be as kind as you were. Anyways, Jimmy James, there

509
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<v Speaker 2>you are, man, you're live.

510
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<v Speaker 1>What's up? You want to talk about Carter? You want

511
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<v Speaker 1>to talk about something else. How you doing?

512
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<v Speaker 9>I'm doing all right because.

513
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<v Speaker 2>Well you know, sorry, it's been the first time back

514
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<v Speaker 2>since but I'm telling you I was in no shape

515
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<v Speaker 2>to talk to anybody or operate anything for weeks. So uh,

516
00:23:29.240 --> 00:23:31.839
<v Speaker 2>and I still don't know what hit me, Jimmy. Uh,

517
00:23:31.880 --> 00:23:34.000
<v Speaker 2>you had you had the closest hint to it, but

518
00:23:34.680 --> 00:23:38.039
<v Speaker 2>still I don't know what it was. And it wasn't

519
00:23:38.079 --> 00:23:38.559
<v Speaker 2>the COVID.

520
00:23:39.119 --> 00:23:43.359
<v Speaker 9>So have bird flew Mute.

521
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<v Speaker 1>Some kind of extra push to get that?

522
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<v Speaker 7>Uh.

523
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<v Speaker 1>I have not received the book from you. No.

524
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<v Speaker 2>I did receive the book from Larry Hancock, though, and

525
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<v Speaker 2>I'm glad I received that. I have not gotten a

526
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<v Speaker 2>chance to read it yet because I couldn't get my

527
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<v Speaker 2>head up. But next week I'm going to talk to

528
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<v Speaker 2>him about the new Oswald book, which will be released

529
00:24:03.960 --> 00:24:07.279
<v Speaker 2>in January technically a few days from now. But but

530
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<v Speaker 2>I've already got the reviewer copy. So but it looks great,

531
00:24:11.000 --> 00:24:12.599
<v Speaker 2>by the way, But I just I haven't gotten a

532
00:24:12.680 --> 00:24:15.119
<v Speaker 2>chance to really actually dive into it because my eyes

533
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<v Speaker 2>I can barely keep him straight.

534
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<v Speaker 3>Larry's got a new book out, Yeah.

535
00:24:19.519 --> 00:24:20.519
<v Speaker 1>The Oswald Puzzle.

536
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<v Speaker 2>Ah, yeah, cool, and he is going to piss off

537
00:24:24.799 --> 00:24:26.319
<v Speaker 2>a bunch of people in the research community.

538
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<v Speaker 1>So I'm really, really, really proud of Larry.

539
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<v Speaker 3>Well, somebody needs to and if anybody can do it, it.

540
00:24:33.440 --> 00:24:36.759
<v Speaker 1>Can be Larry damn right. And he's exactly what I argue.

541
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<v Speaker 4>It's hard to it's hard to critically look at Larry's

542
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<v Speaker 4>data and not pretty much agree with some of his

543
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<v Speaker 4>his I don't know, opinions.

544
00:24:50.160 --> 00:24:52.599
<v Speaker 1>He bags everything, he backs everything.

545
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<v Speaker 4>It's just that, say the guys, the guys, you know,

546
00:24:55.240 --> 00:24:57.640
<v Speaker 4>he's just meticulous and what he does well.

547
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<v Speaker 2>That's why I've been so happy to have him along,

548
00:24:59.319 --> 00:25:01.359
<v Speaker 2>like all this time. He's been the most steady you

549
00:25:01.359 --> 00:25:03.440
<v Speaker 2>know JFK author guy that I've been able to keep

550
00:25:03.440 --> 00:25:06.680
<v Speaker 2>with us all this time is Larry because look, there's

551
00:25:06.759 --> 00:25:09.839
<v Speaker 2>nobody better in my opinion, you know, and with his

552
00:25:09.920 --> 00:25:13.079
<v Speaker 2>reevaluation of Oswald, it's kind of funny because I'm telling

553
00:25:13.079 --> 00:25:14.839
<v Speaker 2>you a lot of people needed a kick in the shins.

554
00:25:15.039 --> 00:25:17.160
<v Speaker 1>It's a lot of nonsense that people run off of

555
00:25:17.960 --> 00:25:18.400
<v Speaker 1>about this.

556
00:25:18.680 --> 00:25:21.400
<v Speaker 2>And you know, look, I'm not with the Oswald Innocence

557
00:25:21.480 --> 00:25:23.480
<v Speaker 2>Project and I'm not thinking he's a you know, a

558
00:25:23.799 --> 00:25:26.720
<v Speaker 2>double O seven like the Judy Baker people do. But

559
00:25:27.279 --> 00:25:29.680
<v Speaker 2>at the same time, you gotta be fair. You got

560
00:25:29.720 --> 00:25:32.519
<v Speaker 2>to examine this guy with what we've learned over the years,

561
00:25:32.559 --> 00:25:34.799
<v Speaker 2>not just the crap that was out there in the sixties.

562
00:25:35.400 --> 00:25:37.559
<v Speaker 2>You know, you got to go beyond the Warrant Commission.

563
00:25:37.599 --> 00:25:40.079
<v Speaker 2>I'm sorry, but you do. You got to know that stuff,

564
00:25:40.079 --> 00:25:41.119
<v Speaker 2>but you got to go past it.

565
00:25:41.200 --> 00:25:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Man.

566
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<v Speaker 4>Yeah, I'm wonder of the files that haven't been released.

567
00:25:46.160 --> 00:25:52.720
<v Speaker 4>I wonder what's in there about Oswald that would really

568
00:25:52.799 --> 00:25:54.680
<v Speaker 4>change some people's minds.

569
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<v Speaker 1>Well, I don't know.

570
00:25:56.559 --> 00:26:00.400
<v Speaker 2>I figure there's probably some more close ties to some

571
00:26:00.480 --> 00:26:05.079
<v Speaker 2>intelligence agencies, and not necessarily the CIA. That's everybody's first reaction,

572
00:26:05.640 --> 00:26:08.640
<v Speaker 2>But I don't think it's them. I really think that

573
00:26:09.160 --> 00:26:12.799
<v Speaker 2>naval intelligence tried to use them and found out, you know,

574
00:26:12.880 --> 00:26:13.200
<v Speaker 2>it was a.

575
00:26:13.200 --> 00:26:17.960
<v Speaker 1>Screw up, and look, that would not be unusual. I'm sorry.

576
00:26:18.039 --> 00:26:20.839
<v Speaker 2>I mean, look, I know more than one military guy

577
00:26:20.880 --> 00:26:22.319
<v Speaker 2>listens to this show, and it's going to jump on

578
00:26:22.400 --> 00:26:26.519
<v Speaker 2>me for saying this, but sorry, I have an awareness

579
00:26:27.200 --> 00:26:31.519
<v Speaker 2>of how some of these military intelligence agencies draw people in.

580
00:26:32.279 --> 00:26:34.000
<v Speaker 2>You know, I look at the case of my father, which,

581
00:26:34.000 --> 00:26:36.799
<v Speaker 2>by the way, I'm gonna have to get back on

582
00:26:36.839 --> 00:26:37.599
<v Speaker 2>that this year again.

583
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<v Speaker 1>Apparently.

584
00:26:38.640 --> 00:26:40.880
<v Speaker 2>But you know, I look at the way that my

585
00:26:40.880 --> 00:26:42.400
<v Speaker 2>father was drawn in. I look at the way some

586
00:26:42.480 --> 00:26:44.480
<v Speaker 2>of the friends that have made have been drawn into

587
00:26:44.480 --> 00:26:47.200
<v Speaker 2>these things. And not all these guys are qualified to

588
00:26:47.200 --> 00:26:49.480
<v Speaker 2>do this stuff that they get drawn in for. And

589
00:26:49.519 --> 00:26:52.640
<v Speaker 2>when do they find out during operations? I'm sorry, but

590
00:26:52.680 --> 00:26:54.279
<v Speaker 2>that's what happens all the time.

591
00:26:54.920 --> 00:26:55.200
<v Speaker 1>Now.

592
00:26:56.039 --> 00:26:58.640
<v Speaker 2>You know, guy like you, Ppete, you might have known people,

593
00:26:59.279 --> 00:27:04.000
<v Speaker 2>you know, maybe me James, new people, And I.

594
00:27:03.960 --> 00:27:06.680
<v Speaker 1>Doubt you're gonna argue with me too much that that's

595
00:27:06.720 --> 00:27:07.799
<v Speaker 1>the way this happens.

596
00:27:08.039 --> 00:27:10.119
<v Speaker 2>And I guarantee Oswald is one of those guys who

597
00:27:10.240 --> 00:27:11.559
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, he looks like the kind of

598
00:27:11.559 --> 00:27:12.759
<v Speaker 2>guy that we could probably use.

599
00:27:13.680 --> 00:27:15.640
<v Speaker 1>And then there's there's people.

600
00:27:15.480 --> 00:27:17.559
<v Speaker 3>Out there being used that don't even have a clue

601
00:27:17.559 --> 00:27:18.440
<v Speaker 3>they're being used.

602
00:27:18.920 --> 00:27:21.400
<v Speaker 2>That's the other thing, you know, there's there is a

603
00:27:21.440 --> 00:27:24.400
<v Speaker 2>point at which he's probably unaware he's being used, and

604
00:27:24.440 --> 00:27:26.440
<v Speaker 2>there's a point at which he's aware he's being used

605
00:27:26.720 --> 00:27:28.799
<v Speaker 2>because you feed this guy's ego, if you listen to

606
00:27:28.799 --> 00:27:32.079
<v Speaker 2>anybody who knew him, you feed this guy's ego, you're

607
00:27:32.079 --> 00:27:33.920
<v Speaker 2>going to get a whole lot more action out of him.

608
00:27:34.559 --> 00:27:37.720
<v Speaker 3>It's just that happening is did he did the things

609
00:27:37.759 --> 00:27:39.759
<v Speaker 3>that he thought he was being used on?

610
00:27:40.839 --> 00:27:41.079
<v Speaker 7>Was? Ay?

611
00:27:43.039 --> 00:27:44.759
<v Speaker 3>Was he be did he think he was.

612
00:27:44.759 --> 00:27:48.079
<v Speaker 4>Being used for a certain purpose and it was actually

613
00:27:48.119 --> 00:27:48.759
<v Speaker 4>something else?

614
00:27:48.960 --> 00:27:50.359
<v Speaker 1>See that specific question.

615
00:27:50.400 --> 00:27:52.400
<v Speaker 3>You can get lost. Yeah, I mean, you can be

616
00:27:52.519 --> 00:27:54.599
<v Speaker 3>used and you can know you're being used, But do

617
00:27:54.680 --> 00:27:56.519
<v Speaker 3>you know you're being used for the thing you're being

618
00:27:56.599 --> 00:27:56.920
<v Speaker 3>used for?

619
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<v Speaker 1>Yeah? Really?

620
00:27:58.119 --> 00:28:01.160
<v Speaker 2>Because okay, so you know you're involved in certain operations, right,

621
00:28:01.200 --> 00:28:02.960
<v Speaker 2>so you know what those are, and you're doing them

622
00:28:03.160 --> 00:28:06.640
<v Speaker 2>and meanwhile they're using you as a decoy and that

623
00:28:06.920 --> 00:28:11.920
<v Speaker 2>is an absolutely acceptable plan. The thing is, I guarantee

624
00:28:11.920 --> 00:28:15.559
<v Speaker 2>that the stuff that's still classified would probably reveal details

625
00:28:15.599 --> 00:28:19.359
<v Speaker 2>like that. Because there's your problem, you know.

626
00:28:19.559 --> 00:28:22.519
<v Speaker 3>Believe do you think it's been vacuumed enough that we're

627
00:28:22.519 --> 00:28:24.759
<v Speaker 3>not gonna learn it? There's nothing in there that we're

628
00:28:24.759 --> 00:28:27.759
<v Speaker 3>gonna be able to learn anything from them.

629
00:28:28.119 --> 00:28:29.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it's gonna take another excavation.

630
00:28:30.119 --> 00:28:32.279
<v Speaker 2>I think the stuff that's been in hand since the

631
00:28:32.359 --> 00:28:36.480
<v Speaker 2>nineties is stale, and there's not They're gonna still resist

632
00:28:36.680 --> 00:28:39.480
<v Speaker 2>because we'll be resisting with that for the next ten years.

633
00:28:40.279 --> 00:28:42.480
<v Speaker 2>You know, the Trump administration is not gonna help with

634
00:28:42.519 --> 00:28:45.240
<v Speaker 2>any of this. By the way, so I really wish

635
00:28:45.279 --> 00:28:47.599
<v Speaker 2>and I'm waiting for the people to realize that give

636
00:28:47.599 --> 00:28:49.359
<v Speaker 2>it a little time. Sure, let's give them this year,

637
00:28:49.400 --> 00:28:53.599
<v Speaker 2>see what happens. But I doubt that we're gonna get

638
00:28:53.880 --> 00:28:55.880
<v Speaker 2>even the rest of the stuff that the ARB was

639
00:28:55.880 --> 00:28:58.519
<v Speaker 2>supposed to give us out of the Trump administration. So

640
00:28:58.640 --> 00:29:03.279
<v Speaker 2>next administration we'll be fighting again for another set doc.

641
00:29:04.000 --> 00:29:07.759
<v Speaker 4>I think enough, if people raise enough hell this administration,

642
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<v Speaker 4>I think they'll get some only.

643
00:29:10.559 --> 00:29:13.160
<v Speaker 2>If a billionaire dollars, only if not only if somebody

644
00:29:13.200 --> 00:29:15.400
<v Speaker 2>who's got money behind him does it, because you know,

645
00:29:15.720 --> 00:29:19.079
<v Speaker 2>people like us, you know, the Mary Paroll Foundation. We're

646
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<v Speaker 2>going nowhere quick with this. And I'm glad that Gail

647
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<v Speaker 2>did well, which, by the way, she was sick the

648
00:29:24.440 --> 00:29:25.920
<v Speaker 2>day I was supposed to have her on the show.

649
00:29:26.359 --> 00:29:28.319
<v Speaker 2>That wasn't even me being sick yet. I was on

650
00:29:28.359 --> 00:29:31.000
<v Speaker 2>my way into darkness. But she was apparently ill really

651
00:29:31.519 --> 00:29:33.119
<v Speaker 2>right the day she was supposed to talk to me.

652
00:29:33.880 --> 00:29:35.680
<v Speaker 2>And I don't know if you guys heard that that

653
00:29:35.759 --> 00:29:39.160
<v Speaker 2>little piece that I put out on the broadcast because

654
00:29:39.400 --> 00:29:41.519
<v Speaker 2>her husband called me while I was live, well, I

655
00:29:41.559 --> 00:29:42.480
<v Speaker 2>was trying to get a hold of her.

656
00:29:43.279 --> 00:29:43.440
<v Speaker 7>Uh.

657
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<v Speaker 2>But anyway, Gail has a situation where they're not gonna

658
00:29:47.119 --> 00:29:49.720
<v Speaker 2>they're not gonna stop. The government wanted the case drop

659
00:29:49.799 --> 00:29:51.319
<v Speaker 2>and they're not going to drop it. That's all there

660
00:29:51.359 --> 00:29:51.640
<v Speaker 2>is to me.

661
00:29:51.759 --> 00:29:51.960
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

662
00:29:52.200 --> 00:29:53.480
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, they gave the green lights.

663
00:29:53.559 --> 00:29:56.119
<v Speaker 2>So yeah, so she's got the green light to collect

664
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<v Speaker 2>its interesting now it gets any interesting, I.

665
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<v Speaker 3>Mean, you know, and he basically said, you know that

666
00:30:02.960 --> 00:30:05.799
<v Speaker 3>you guys have a responsibility for turning this over. Well,

667
00:30:05.839 --> 00:30:07.119
<v Speaker 3>we don't have it, won't.

668
00:30:06.839 --> 00:30:09.279
<v Speaker 2>Find it, find it because at one point you did

669
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<v Speaker 2>have it, and we don't believe you with this whole

670
00:30:11.119 --> 00:30:14.720
<v Speaker 2>we don't know, So yeah, go get it. And that's

671
00:30:14.759 --> 00:30:16.960
<v Speaker 2>the bottom line is unless a judge is gonna take

672
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<v Speaker 2>a position like that, which they generally haven't. And again,

673
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<v Speaker 2>you know, remember Brett Kavanaugh, Supreme Court justice. This is

674
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<v Speaker 2>the guy who put Jefferson Morley's.

675
00:30:25.200 --> 00:30:27.759
<v Speaker 1>Lawsuit to sleep. Okay, that's the end of that.

676
00:30:28.680 --> 00:30:31.519
<v Speaker 2>So remember this is not the administration that's gonna be

677
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<v Speaker 2>for transparency. I disagree with you. We raise the stake.

678
00:30:35.079 --> 00:30:37.880
<v Speaker 2>Nobody's gonna care. And I'm telling you now, nobody's gonna

679
00:30:37.880 --> 00:30:40.599
<v Speaker 2>care unless you got money. So you know, if you

680
00:30:40.680 --> 00:30:43.200
<v Speaker 2>got somebody who's got money, get them to raise their

681
00:30:43.279 --> 00:30:46.720
<v Speaker 2>voice up. That's the only way this is gonna work. Jimmy,

682
00:30:46.839 --> 00:30:49.519
<v Speaker 2>I hardly let you talk so far you're on the line.

683
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<v Speaker 5>Yeah, I disagree with that assessment, But I got questions

684
00:30:57.039 --> 00:31:00.400
<v Speaker 5>for Danny. The's Stanny boy there.

685
00:31:01.000 --> 00:31:02.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, I can put Danny on. You want to talk

686
00:31:02.759 --> 00:31:03.400
<v Speaker 1>to him directly?

687
00:31:05.799 --> 00:31:06.880
<v Speaker 3>Oh yeah, all right, I'll.

688
00:31:06.759 --> 00:31:08.839
<v Speaker 2>Put Danny on. Danny, I'm putting you on. If you

689
00:31:08.839 --> 00:31:10.720
<v Speaker 2>don't want to be on, tell me, I'll take you off.

690
00:31:10.759 --> 00:31:12.680
<v Speaker 2>But otherwise I'll let you talk to Jimmy.

691
00:31:12.720 --> 00:31:13.480
<v Speaker 3>Oh no, I'm back.

692
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<v Speaker 8>I'm back.

693
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<v Speaker 3>Sure, okay me.

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<v Speaker 6>How you doing?

695
00:31:16.279 --> 00:31:19.799
<v Speaker 5>There you go, I'm doing I'm doing good.

696
00:31:19.880 --> 00:31:20.319
<v Speaker 9>Danny.

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<v Speaker 10>Hey, dannywhere You're pretty knowledgeable.

698
00:31:22.880 --> 00:31:27.920
<v Speaker 5>About that Danny Castle Castelero situation, aren't you.

699
00:31:28.079 --> 00:31:28.960
<v Speaker 9>I remember you talk?

700
00:31:29.119 --> 00:31:35.599
<v Speaker 11>Yeah yeah, oh the octopus yeah yeah, yeah yeah.

701
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<v Speaker 5>So that was ninety two that he was murdered in

702
00:31:39.640 --> 00:31:41.799
<v Speaker 5>West Virginia.

703
00:31:41.799 --> 00:31:47.079
<v Speaker 8>That it was Martinsburg, West Virginia. It was either the

704
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<v Speaker 8>I'm going to say it was the early nineties. I

705
00:31:49.440 --> 00:31:51.359
<v Speaker 8>don't have I can't off the top of my head.

706
00:31:51.400 --> 00:31:53.359
<v Speaker 8>I don't have the exact date. I just kind of

707
00:31:53.400 --> 00:31:57.759
<v Speaker 8>remember that it was. Uh, I missed it on like

708
00:31:58.319 --> 00:32:01.160
<v Speaker 8>anything that was on like ConA, like on the national Press,

709
00:32:01.200 --> 00:32:02.960
<v Speaker 8>because it was a bleep that there's a couple of

710
00:32:03.079 --> 00:32:07.480
<v Speaker 8>small newspapers here, when we had small newspapers in California

711
00:32:07.519 --> 00:32:11.359
<v Speaker 8>that started talking about it on Obscure radio show. So

712
00:32:11.400 --> 00:32:13.559
<v Speaker 8>it's always caught my interests.

713
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<v Speaker 1>Okay, to clarify, Just to clarify between the two of you.

714
00:32:18.640 --> 00:32:29.599
<v Speaker 2>He died August tenth, nineteen ninety one, in Martinsburg, West Virginia. Yes, yeah, yes,

715
00:32:29.640 --> 00:32:30.279
<v Speaker 2>that's officially.

716
00:32:30.359 --> 00:32:33.279
<v Speaker 9>Okay, that's fascinating now.

717
00:32:33.359 --> 00:32:33.599
<v Speaker 3>It was.

718
00:32:35.119 --> 00:32:38.799
<v Speaker 5>I understand it. He was going to meet his contact.

719
00:32:39.640 --> 00:32:41.680
<v Speaker 5>And do you know who his contact was?

720
00:32:43.000 --> 00:32:49.039
<v Speaker 8>There's a different there's different versions. There's one the one

721
00:32:49.119 --> 00:32:55.319
<v Speaker 8>that seems possibly the one the contact. I don't have

722
00:32:55.359 --> 00:32:58.039
<v Speaker 8>his name off the top of my head. That would

723
00:32:58.079 --> 00:33:00.319
<v Speaker 8>be the most And I'll see if I can find

724
00:33:00.400 --> 00:33:03.640
<v Speaker 8>some information because I go a book right there on

725
00:33:03.640 --> 00:33:07.119
<v Speaker 8>my bookshelf. If they have it. He happened to be

726
00:33:07.359 --> 00:33:11.359
<v Speaker 8>something connected to the army and I leave Special Forces.

727
00:33:11.680 --> 00:33:15.720
<v Speaker 8>And there's some that suspect that he may have killed Castillo.

728
00:33:15.839 --> 00:33:19.839
<v Speaker 8>There's just the suicide doesn't make any sense. It's kind

729
00:33:19.880 --> 00:33:24.039
<v Speaker 8>of like Gary Webb who wrote The Dark Lines.

730
00:33:24.200 --> 00:33:24.839
<v Speaker 1>You know he was.

731
00:33:25.359 --> 00:33:28.759
<v Speaker 8>He supposedly killed himself here in Sacramento, right near where

732
00:33:28.799 --> 00:33:31.799
<v Speaker 8>I live. It was, you know, shot himself twice, but

733
00:33:33.119 --> 00:33:35.559
<v Speaker 8>I don't remember the exact that's that's one of the

734
00:33:36.759 --> 00:33:40.880
<v Speaker 8>characters they believe. I'm let's say if I can find Oh, yeah,

735
00:33:42.079 --> 00:33:42.599
<v Speaker 8>I don't.

736
00:33:42.440 --> 00:33:42.960
<v Speaker 9>Know the one.

737
00:33:43.680 --> 00:33:46.039
<v Speaker 5>The one guy they said that he did meet that

738
00:33:46.279 --> 00:33:50.599
<v Speaker 5>day was that f f former FBI guy that's always

739
00:33:50.599 --> 00:33:54.200
<v Speaker 5>in the JFK case. Wasn't an FBI agent Turner?

740
00:33:55.039 --> 00:33:58.160
<v Speaker 8>Oh the turner?

741
00:33:58.599 --> 00:34:01.759
<v Speaker 6>Or was that? What was that?

742
00:34:01.839 --> 00:34:04.480
<v Speaker 8>What was the guy he was? I think he was

743
00:34:04.519 --> 00:34:07.960
<v Speaker 8>from l A. I'm trying to remember. It doesn't sound right,

744
00:34:08.039 --> 00:34:10.800
<v Speaker 8>but I'm not. I'm not. I don't quote me on

745
00:34:10.880 --> 00:34:15.440
<v Speaker 8>it because I'm trying to job man right now. Talk.

746
00:34:15.519 --> 00:34:19.000
<v Speaker 9>Do you recall what that fbigis guy's name is?

747
00:34:19.239 --> 00:34:21.719
<v Speaker 2>Well, I remember the guy you're talking about was tied

748
00:34:21.760 --> 00:34:23.679
<v Speaker 2>into this case, but I don't remember that that was

749
00:34:23.719 --> 00:34:25.559
<v Speaker 2>who he was meeting with. Let me let me see

750
00:34:25.599 --> 00:34:29.360
<v Speaker 2>if I could figure that out, because you know, there's

751
00:34:29.400 --> 00:34:31.360
<v Speaker 2>a little bit of mystery here, and I think there

752
00:34:31.400 --> 00:34:32.239
<v Speaker 2>was more than one guy.

753
00:34:32.320 --> 00:34:37.599
<v Speaker 5>But the FBI guys said that he did meet with

754
00:34:37.679 --> 00:34:39.760
<v Speaker 5>them that day, but he was going to meet with

755
00:34:39.840 --> 00:34:41.000
<v Speaker 5>the contact later.

756
00:34:41.800 --> 00:34:46.079
<v Speaker 2>Ah, okay, well that makes sense. I just I don't

757
00:34:46.119 --> 00:34:49.079
<v Speaker 2>remember who said he met with him. Uh, let's see

758
00:34:49.960 --> 00:34:52.079
<v Speaker 2>meeting day of death. Let's see.

759
00:34:52.639 --> 00:34:56.480
<v Speaker 8>I think he met with a few people and there

760
00:34:56.559 --> 00:35:00.280
<v Speaker 8>was suns singing that they kind of identified as.

761
00:35:02.039 --> 00:35:07.400
<v Speaker 12>He was he was connected with the army. Yeah, I'm

762
00:35:07.440 --> 00:35:13.039
<v Speaker 12>trying to see. I got Sherry Seaman was booked out here.

763
00:35:13.079 --> 00:35:15.599
<v Speaker 12>I'm trying to see if I can find by having

764
00:35:15.960 --> 00:35:16.719
<v Speaker 12>marked on it.

765
00:35:21.320 --> 00:35:26.239
<v Speaker 5>And as a uh, the stories he was working on was,

766
00:35:26.280 --> 00:35:36.360
<v Speaker 5>as I recall, the Iran contra. Yeah, the quote unquote

767
00:35:36.440 --> 00:35:41.519
<v Speaker 5>October surprise. Danny, remind me what's the October surprise?

768
00:35:42.000 --> 00:35:50.679
<v Speaker 8>Well, the October surprise was that there was several individuals

769
00:35:50.719 --> 00:35:53.239
<v Speaker 8>connected to the Reagan campaign and what they did is

770
00:35:53.280 --> 00:35:58.000
<v Speaker 8>they met with the with Iranian depine had connections with

771
00:35:58.079 --> 00:36:02.039
<v Speaker 8>because you know, prior to the Iranian revolution, we have

772
00:36:02.119 --> 00:36:04.519
<v Speaker 8>a lot of contacts with the shot I mean, people

773
00:36:04.559 --> 00:36:08.639
<v Speaker 8>had business, a lot of business arrangements. One was Bryan Earl.

774
00:36:08.719 --> 00:36:14.079
<v Speaker 8>That's that Michael riccona shooter, said that he went there

775
00:36:14.119 --> 00:36:19.320
<v Speaker 8>and he had contacts and was taking contact with Iranians

776
00:36:19.360 --> 00:36:21.840
<v Speaker 8>to hold the hostages because that the way they would

777
00:36:21.880 --> 00:36:25.880
<v Speaker 8>help Reagan get elected. There's also what's it.

778
00:36:30.079 --> 00:36:34.559
<v Speaker 4>There's also the charge that O'Brien and what is it?

779
00:36:34.880 --> 00:36:35.920
<v Speaker 4>What's the how does he pronounce it?

780
00:36:36.159 --> 00:36:41.079
<v Speaker 3>Raconsiuto riccona shodo? They actually paid.

781
00:36:41.639 --> 00:36:45.079
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, they actually paid the Iranians forty million to hold

782
00:36:45.119 --> 00:36:47.960
<v Speaker 4>the hostages until Reagan got elected.

783
00:36:48.480 --> 00:36:48.679
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

784
00:36:48.719 --> 00:36:52.320
<v Speaker 2>But the problem there is that Riccona Shooto is like

785
00:36:52.400 --> 00:36:54.840
<v Speaker 2>a psycho. I mean, he's all over the map with

786
00:36:54.960 --> 00:36:55.599
<v Speaker 2>everything that he.

787
00:36:55.719 --> 00:36:57.679
<v Speaker 4>That's what I'm saying though, I mean that, but you know,

788
00:36:57.800 --> 00:36:59.559
<v Speaker 4>that was the big thing about the surprise.

789
00:36:59.639 --> 00:37:01.559
<v Speaker 3>I mean, otherwise I Ran would have no reason to

790
00:37:01.599 --> 00:37:02.320
<v Speaker 3>hold them.

791
00:37:02.559 --> 00:37:05.000
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, but unless there was some kind of deal now

792
00:37:05.039 --> 00:37:08.320
<v Speaker 4>there they're saying that there other theories about the dalb

793
00:37:08.480 --> 00:37:12.519
<v Speaker 4>and some arms and things like that once Reagan gets in.

794
00:37:13.000 --> 00:37:15.000
<v Speaker 4>But these guys just came out and said, hey, we

795
00:37:15.079 --> 00:37:17.480
<v Speaker 4>paid them forty mil. That was the October surprise. It

796
00:37:17.559 --> 00:37:22.239
<v Speaker 4>was also the big Inslaught case too. Where to go

797
00:37:22.280 --> 00:37:24.360
<v Speaker 4>and ask him to put some back doors into his

798
00:37:24.440 --> 00:37:25.519
<v Speaker 4>computer programs.

799
00:37:26.960 --> 00:37:30.920
<v Speaker 3>So it was it was one big, one huge black hole.

800
00:37:31.480 --> 00:37:31.719
<v Speaker 1>See.

801
00:37:31.760 --> 00:37:33.239
<v Speaker 2>And that's the that's the thing is when it comes

802
00:37:33.280 --> 00:37:36.440
<v Speaker 2>to the computer guys. The computer guys I believe because

803
00:37:36.840 --> 00:37:39.400
<v Speaker 2>they are exactly the kind of guys who did that

804
00:37:39.480 --> 00:37:41.199
<v Speaker 2>kind of work back then, you know.

805
00:37:41.320 --> 00:37:44.280
<v Speaker 4>Because I think it was a court or somebody some

806
00:37:45.039 --> 00:37:47.159
<v Speaker 4>I think there was a hearing when I think they

807
00:37:47.199 --> 00:37:50.079
<v Speaker 4>found that Yeah, the government did take his software by

808
00:37:50.159 --> 00:37:53.360
<v Speaker 4>tricking deceit, Yeah they did.

809
00:37:53.480 --> 00:37:55.440
<v Speaker 2>And and but this is the way it was done.

810
00:37:55.639 --> 00:37:58.119
<v Speaker 2>You know, the government seesed anything they wanted to back then.

811
00:37:58.239 --> 00:38:00.119
<v Speaker 2>And where were you going to bitch about it? Know,

812
00:38:01.440 --> 00:38:03.519
<v Speaker 2>you're going to go to court with the government after.

813
00:38:03.880 --> 00:38:06.440
<v Speaker 3>That's a big That's that's a big argument because I've

814
00:38:06.480 --> 00:38:08.800
<v Speaker 3>seen that happen just working for the state. You know,

815
00:38:08.920 --> 00:38:11.960
<v Speaker 3>if you work on a program and the state decides

816
00:38:12.000 --> 00:38:14.239
<v Speaker 3>to use it and then you want to say no,

817
00:38:14.599 --> 00:38:17.480
<v Speaker 3>I'll sell it to you or you can lease it,

818
00:38:17.920 --> 00:38:19.840
<v Speaker 3>they go, wait a minute, you're working for us, that's

819
00:38:19.880 --> 00:38:20.719
<v Speaker 3>ours right.

820
00:38:21.199 --> 00:38:22.679
<v Speaker 1>They claim domain over.

821
00:38:22.679 --> 00:38:26.800
<v Speaker 4>Every college campus across America, exactly.

822
00:38:26.800 --> 00:38:29.280
<v Speaker 2>Exactly, And this is why things are funded the way

823
00:38:29.280 --> 00:38:31.119
<v Speaker 2>they are because this way they can they can claim

824
00:38:31.159 --> 00:38:35.559
<v Speaker 2>dominion over it. That that's that's why it's done. I mean,

825
00:38:36.719 --> 00:38:41.239
<v Speaker 2>you know, so look, I believe exactly that the computer

826
00:38:41.320 --> 00:38:44.440
<v Speaker 2>programming guys no problem. But when Racona Schudo starts talking

827
00:38:44.440 --> 00:38:46.760
<v Speaker 2>about all these other weird little operations he was on.

828
00:38:47.239 --> 00:38:49.440
<v Speaker 1>I bet he was on some of them, but not

829
00:38:49.480 --> 00:38:50.559
<v Speaker 1>all of them, because he's not.

830
00:38:53.239 --> 00:38:53.559
<v Speaker 6>Dad.

831
00:38:53.639 --> 00:38:54.039
<v Speaker 1>To you.

832
00:38:54.400 --> 00:38:58.079
<v Speaker 8>My memories coming back to me. It was MICHAELA shooter

833
00:38:58.239 --> 00:39:01.199
<v Speaker 8>was talking about me that it was any Castlo had

834
00:39:01.280 --> 00:39:02.559
<v Speaker 8>met with Ted Gunderson.

835
00:39:02.639 --> 00:39:03.119
<v Speaker 3>I believe it.

836
00:39:08.119 --> 00:39:11.199
<v Speaker 8>Now they had a couple more things, if you want

837
00:39:11.199 --> 00:39:13.679
<v Speaker 8>to go down the rabbit holes. Gary Sick, who was

838
00:39:14.159 --> 00:39:17.079
<v Speaker 8>like I brought up the Jimmy Carter, he was his

839
00:39:17.280 --> 00:39:20.559
<v Speaker 8>national security advisor, and I know that he wrote it.

840
00:39:20.719 --> 00:39:24.280
<v Speaker 8>He had his doubts that there was some shenanigans going.

841
00:39:24.360 --> 00:39:27.599
<v Speaker 8>He couldn't prove it. But also to you look up

842
00:39:27.679 --> 00:39:32.039
<v Speaker 8>the very first president of Iran, he wrote a book

843
00:39:32.079 --> 00:39:35.639
<v Speaker 8>Saved My Turn, and he claims that there was true

844
00:39:35.880 --> 00:39:39.840
<v Speaker 8>that there was a meeting in France with members of

845
00:39:39.880 --> 00:39:46.960
<v Speaker 8>the Reagan the Reagan teams to hold the hostages. And

846
00:39:47.599 --> 00:39:51.079
<v Speaker 8>there has been now I don't read French or Spanish

847
00:39:51.239 --> 00:39:54.440
<v Speaker 8>that there has been an intelligence and say that they

848
00:39:54.599 --> 00:39:57.880
<v Speaker 8>have sources that they had a meeting took place and

849
00:39:57.880 --> 00:39:59.159
<v Speaker 8>it was in a hotel in Paris.

850
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<v Speaker 2>I'll tell you something about I'll tell you something about

851
00:40:02.079 --> 00:40:03.719
<v Speaker 2>this that I guarantee you none of you have read

852
00:40:03.719 --> 00:40:06.599
<v Speaker 2>because I've read it in Italian, all right, and I

853
00:40:06.639 --> 00:40:10.039
<v Speaker 2>can read Italian in a rudimentary way. But the reports

854
00:40:10.079 --> 00:40:13.280
<v Speaker 2>from the Italian government said that they knew about this,

855
00:40:14.000 --> 00:40:17.320
<v Speaker 2>and this meeting wasn't you know, everybody talks about this meeting,

856
00:40:17.400 --> 00:40:19.320
<v Speaker 2>and you know it was supposed to be the October surprise,

857
00:40:19.360 --> 00:40:21.519
<v Speaker 2>and it's the Reagan cabinet saying hold on to the

858
00:40:21.519 --> 00:40:22.880
<v Speaker 2>hostages till we get elected.

859
00:40:22.960 --> 00:40:23.119
<v Speaker 1>Right.

860
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<v Speaker 2>That is not the way the Italians described it. The

861
00:40:27.079 --> 00:40:30.199
<v Speaker 2>Italians quite honestly describe it as something that only makes

862
00:40:30.239 --> 00:40:33.039
<v Speaker 2>sense since they thought they could be coming in, they

863
00:40:33.079 --> 00:40:35.519
<v Speaker 2>better prepare so meet with us. We might be in

864
00:40:35.599 --> 00:40:40.119
<v Speaker 2>charge soon. And that was the gist of that meeting,

865
00:40:40.800 --> 00:40:43.440
<v Speaker 2>and ever since people have made more of it than that.

866
00:40:43.440 --> 00:40:45.360
<v Speaker 2>That's what the Italians thought of it. Now, I'm not

867
00:40:45.400 --> 00:40:48.599
<v Speaker 2>saying the Italian intelligence. Look, Italian intelligence is not the

868
00:40:48.679 --> 00:40:52.039
<v Speaker 2>highest quality on the planet, but they got a better

869
00:40:52.079 --> 00:40:54.400
<v Speaker 2>look at it than you or I do. So I'm

870
00:40:54.440 --> 00:40:58.079
<v Speaker 2>just saying I hold it true that part of that

871
00:40:58.119 --> 00:41:01.400
<v Speaker 2>meeting had to have been just, look, we're possibly the

872
00:41:01.440 --> 00:41:04.519
<v Speaker 2>people in power next and you're gonna have to deal.

873
00:41:04.320 --> 00:41:04.519
<v Speaker 8>With that.

874
00:41:06.039 --> 00:41:07.079
<v Speaker 1>And I'm sure.

875
00:41:10.320 --> 00:41:12.679
<v Speaker 2>What I'm saying is I don't hold the Reagan I

876
00:41:12.679 --> 00:41:15.599
<v Speaker 2>don't hold the Reagan people responsible for the same conspiracy

877
00:41:15.639 --> 00:41:16.599
<v Speaker 2>a lot of other people do.

878
00:41:17.039 --> 00:41:19.599
<v Speaker 1>Necessarily, I'm not saying it's impossible.

879
00:41:19.679 --> 00:41:22.039
<v Speaker 2>I'm just saying that I don't jump to that conclusion

880
00:41:22.079 --> 00:41:25.840
<v Speaker 2>like everybody else does. Because the Italians released their intelligence

881
00:41:25.880 --> 00:41:30.559
<v Speaker 2>reports after the Iran contry hearings here, and nobody paid

882
00:41:30.559 --> 00:41:33.000
<v Speaker 2>attention to it in America because it was in Italian.

883
00:41:33.039 --> 00:41:35.960
<v Speaker 2>It was in the Italian newspapers, and you know, unless

884
00:41:36.000 --> 00:41:38.760
<v Speaker 2>it's the mob, nobody gives a crap, right, So there

885
00:41:38.760 --> 00:41:39.039
<v Speaker 2>you go.

886
00:41:39.239 --> 00:41:39.920
<v Speaker 1>That's America.

887
00:41:40.760 --> 00:41:43.480
<v Speaker 2>But believe it or not, Italian intelligence releases stuff to

888
00:41:43.519 --> 00:41:46.800
<v Speaker 2>the public all the time after things have happened and say, look,

889
00:41:46.840 --> 00:41:50.239
<v Speaker 2>we knew about this, we were on this. They're constantly

890
00:41:50.239 --> 00:41:52.920
<v Speaker 2>trying to justify their existence, is what they're doing to

891
00:41:52.920 --> 00:41:56.239
<v Speaker 2>the Italians. So just so happens. I can read that.

892
00:41:56.280 --> 00:41:59.320
<v Speaker 2>I can read Italian and UH and and what is it?

893
00:41:59.360 --> 00:42:02.599
<v Speaker 2>The the republica, whatever the hell it is, the two

894
00:42:02.679 --> 00:42:06.159
<v Speaker 2>newspapers they often send over to America. I can read those, uh,

895
00:42:06.599 --> 00:42:08.760
<v Speaker 2>not always perfectly, but I can read them enough to

896
00:42:09.079 --> 00:42:13.079
<v Speaker 2>understand what happened. So their their opinion though, was basically

897
00:42:13.119 --> 00:42:15.559
<v Speaker 2>it was just about the transition, not about this whole

898
00:42:15.599 --> 00:42:16.639
<v Speaker 2>hold on to the hostages.

899
00:42:16.679 --> 00:42:17.360
<v Speaker 1>Do we get in?

900
00:42:17.880 --> 00:42:20.199
<v Speaker 2>It was just like, look, be prepared, where the guys

901
00:42:20.239 --> 00:42:23.360
<v Speaker 2>who were coming next, We feel we're gonna win. That

902
00:42:23.519 --> 00:42:24.880
<v Speaker 2>was the meeting there in France.

903
00:42:24.920 --> 00:42:28.800
<v Speaker 1>All right, So but but god hear me, Yeah, go ahead.

904
00:42:28.639 --> 00:42:35.480
<v Speaker 10>Jimmy, okay, all right, yeah, I ten do agree. Well,

905
00:42:35.519 --> 00:42:39.599
<v Speaker 10>I do agree that break Its people had nothing to

906
00:42:39.679 --> 00:42:40.639
<v Speaker 10>do with their release.

907
00:42:41.320 --> 00:42:42.039
<v Speaker 6>We already.

908
00:42:42.280 --> 00:42:46.960
<v Speaker 5>I mean, this is forty what four or five years ago?

909
00:42:47.400 --> 00:42:51.360
<v Speaker 5>Everyone chen there's has been all kinds of documents release,

910
00:42:52.559 --> 00:42:55.719
<v Speaker 5>but there has been and there's just all kinds of

911
00:42:55.760 --> 00:42:57.599
<v Speaker 5>people out there that could be talked to.

912
00:42:59.079 --> 00:43:02.960
<v Speaker 1>Uh, same time, I don't believe that forty million.

913
00:43:05.280 --> 00:43:09.440
<v Speaker 10>Because they knew if they did, Reagan was going to

914
00:43:09.519 --> 00:43:12.880
<v Speaker 10>bomb the ever living hell out of it and remove

915
00:43:13.000 --> 00:43:16.239
<v Speaker 10>them before they even had one year on office.

916
00:43:16.880 --> 00:43:18.280
<v Speaker 1>Well there you go, pragmatic.

917
00:43:19.199 --> 00:43:21.760
<v Speaker 2>Right, Look, we got a guy who's definitely like if

918
00:43:21.800 --> 00:43:24.280
<v Speaker 2>Dixon was in office, they knew they would have been bombed.

919
00:43:24.920 --> 00:43:27.639
<v Speaker 1>So they're not going to pull this crap.

920
00:43:29.480 --> 00:43:32.079
<v Speaker 2>Right, you know, It's it's the one good thing I

921
00:43:32.119 --> 00:43:36.119
<v Speaker 2>see from the Trump administration coming up is that everybody's

922
00:43:36.119 --> 00:43:38.119
<v Speaker 2>got to calculate, is this guy crazy enough to bomb

923
00:43:38.199 --> 00:43:40.760
<v Speaker 2>us if we pulled something. That's the only thing that's

924
00:43:40.800 --> 00:43:44.280
<v Speaker 2>good about Trump coming in office. Is this guy nuts

925
00:43:44.400 --> 00:43:48.599
<v Speaker 2>enough to launch against us? Right because he doesn't care

926
00:43:48.599 --> 00:43:51.800
<v Speaker 2>about the consequences or what it means to whoever. He's

927
00:43:51.880 --> 00:43:55.199
<v Speaker 2>talking about taking over Canada and buying Greenland, so whatever.

928
00:43:55.519 --> 00:43:57.840
<v Speaker 2>This guy don't give a crap, So do we mess

929
00:43:57.880 --> 00:44:00.920
<v Speaker 2>with anything that could piss him off. That's the only

930
00:44:00.960 --> 00:44:04.760
<v Speaker 2>good thing about this guy going in the office. It's

931
00:44:04.760 --> 00:44:05.800
<v Speaker 2>not gonna be negotiation.

932
00:44:05.920 --> 00:44:09.960
<v Speaker 1>It'll be a reaction. Go ahead, I'm sorry, Jimmy, GoAhead.

933
00:44:13.280 --> 00:44:15.000
<v Speaker 9>I wonder.

934
00:44:16.480 --> 00:44:22.159
<v Speaker 2>Man. Anyways, And Kadafi paid for this, by the way,

935
00:44:22.239 --> 00:44:24.000
<v Speaker 2>Kadafi is the one who winds up paying for this

936
00:44:24.079 --> 00:44:26.920
<v Speaker 2>later because there's all kinds of terrorists across the planet.

937
00:44:27.159 --> 00:44:30.239
<v Speaker 2>But we bombed the hell out of Kadafi, right, He

938
00:44:30.519 --> 00:44:33.280
<v Speaker 2>wasn't the master find of most things, but we hit

939
00:44:33.360 --> 00:44:36.679
<v Speaker 2>him because his name was recognizable. And Reagan had to

940
00:44:36.719 --> 00:44:39.199
<v Speaker 2>go somewhere because he wasn't bombing Iraq Iran.

941
00:44:40.000 --> 00:44:41.079
<v Speaker 1>And you know, we weren't.

942
00:44:41.119 --> 00:44:43.840
<v Speaker 2>We weren't pissed off a Hussein yet so you know,

943
00:44:44.320 --> 00:44:46.960
<v Speaker 2>he was still basically one of our guys, whosaying, don't

944
00:44:46.960 --> 00:44:49.400
<v Speaker 2>forget that he was helping us in the era, right,

945
00:44:50.320 --> 00:44:55.039
<v Speaker 2>so you know, yeah, they had to bomb somebody.

946
00:44:54.039 --> 00:45:00.360
<v Speaker 5>Paid, Yeah, the Americans back to Bath Party and then

947
00:45:01.239 --> 00:45:06.559
<v Speaker 5>Saddam killed that then president who took patrol. So in

948
00:45:06.599 --> 00:45:10.280
<v Speaker 5>a sense, if we will say America supported Saddam, we

949
00:45:10.320 --> 00:45:13.400
<v Speaker 5>did not really did.

950
00:45:13.400 --> 00:45:18.519
<v Speaker 1>In the in the Iran Iraq war. War you got

951
00:45:18.519 --> 00:45:21.360
<v Speaker 1>to begin me the Iran Iraq War, we were definitely with.

952
00:45:21.480 --> 00:45:25.360
<v Speaker 9>The well, we.

953
00:45:27.079 --> 00:45:31.519
<v Speaker 4>Actually did, and that went on for several years, right, right,

954
00:45:31.599 --> 00:45:33.000
<v Speaker 4>I mean he was just.

955
00:45:36.440 --> 00:45:38.440
<v Speaker 9>This West virgin his situation.

956
00:45:38.960 --> 00:45:41.079
<v Speaker 3>I could sure.

957
00:45:43.760 --> 00:45:52.199
<v Speaker 5>The alleged say the Danny Castleo. Okay, well other Danny

958
00:45:53.000 --> 00:46:00.760
<v Speaker 5>alive Danny uh. He find it odd everything that Danny

959
00:46:00.840 --> 00:46:05.440
<v Speaker 5>cass Lero was looking into. It was part of Operation Odyssey.

960
00:46:06.360 --> 00:46:07.920
<v Speaker 9>And do you find it odd that he.

961
00:46:08.000 --> 00:46:11.760
<v Speaker 5>Was murdered in the same year that the Soviet Union collapsed?

962
00:46:12.679 --> 00:46:16.280
<v Speaker 5>Could it be that his handler decided to get rid

963
00:46:16.360 --> 00:46:19.960
<v Speaker 5>of him because he didn't want books and stuff coming

964
00:46:20.000 --> 00:46:24.360
<v Speaker 5>out and he just wanted to fade away, Now do

965
00:46:24.400 --> 00:46:27.199
<v Speaker 5>you data that's possible?

966
00:46:28.960 --> 00:46:32.800
<v Speaker 8>I sure it was just a really odd. It was

967
00:46:32.840 --> 00:46:36.039
<v Speaker 8>an odd deal. But you know, going back to the

968
00:46:36.079 --> 00:46:41.079
<v Speaker 8>whole Iran Iraq war, if you look at you know,

969
00:46:42.159 --> 00:46:46.400
<v Speaker 8>the news source Consortium News, JP Sailly wrote.

970
00:46:46.280 --> 00:46:52.000
<v Speaker 2>For years, Yeah, until the guy who was running that die.

971
00:46:54.480 --> 00:46:58.079
<v Speaker 8>Yeah. JP Stilly wrote a lot for Consorting News for

972
00:46:58.119 --> 00:46:59.880
<v Speaker 8>a while though. That's how I kind of found you

973
00:47:00.199 --> 00:47:03.880
<v Speaker 8>show chuck through kind of when you were doing him,

974
00:47:03.920 --> 00:47:07.639
<v Speaker 8>and I was like, always liked his writing. But Robert Perry,

975
00:47:07.719 --> 00:47:12.000
<v Speaker 8>who broke the Iran contra, I believe it was. I

976
00:47:12.039 --> 00:47:15.039
<v Speaker 8>think he was working at Newsweek. He put on a

977
00:47:15.159 --> 00:47:18.719
<v Speaker 8>series about the October Surprise, which was really interesting. I

978
00:47:18.719 --> 00:47:22.559
<v Speaker 8>think there's archives and Consortive News, but one of the

979
00:47:22.559 --> 00:47:26.360
<v Speaker 8>ones that was really kind of interesting is that whole

980
00:47:27.320 --> 00:47:33.679
<v Speaker 8>Iran Iraq war and Iran was the big boogeyman enemy

981
00:47:33.679 --> 00:47:35.719
<v Speaker 8>of US. I mean, he was hated the the size

982
00:47:35.800 --> 00:47:40.880
<v Speaker 8>of the Conservatives and there ended up being in the

983
00:47:41.039 --> 00:47:45.920
<v Speaker 8>very This was before really the the we really started

984
00:47:46.000 --> 00:47:48.119
<v Speaker 8>supporting the contures that were live. It was in the

985
00:47:48.199 --> 00:47:52.519
<v Speaker 8>early eighties. A plane was shot down and it happened

986
00:47:52.519 --> 00:47:55.920
<v Speaker 8>to have a lot of spare parts that the Iranians

987
00:47:56.119 --> 00:48:00.599
<v Speaker 8>wanted to fight that war, to fight against the the

988
00:48:00.719 --> 00:48:04.400
<v Speaker 8>iraqis so I think we're playing both sides, and I

989
00:48:04.800 --> 00:48:07.440
<v Speaker 8>wouldn't you know, I don't. I'm not claiming that I

990
00:48:07.519 --> 00:48:11.320
<v Speaker 8>know everything about the October Surprise and ran Contra, but

991
00:48:11.360 --> 00:48:13.880
<v Speaker 8>there's just a lot of things that's like, again, they're

992
00:48:13.960 --> 00:48:18.360
<v Speaker 8>playing both sides. There's a lot of information, and it's

993
00:48:18.519 --> 00:48:22.000
<v Speaker 8>very interesting with your take with your Italian newspaper has

994
00:48:22.079 --> 00:48:24.639
<v Speaker 8>but if you go on that source, there's a lot

995
00:48:24.639 --> 00:48:28.440
<v Speaker 8>of sources. A Lobert Perry wrote a book called I

996
00:48:28.519 --> 00:48:31.719
<v Speaker 8>think it's called Tricker Trees, and he's got a lot

997
00:48:31.719 --> 00:48:34.360
<v Speaker 8>of information. He kind of felt that there was some

998
00:48:34.480 --> 00:48:36.639
<v Speaker 8>shenanigans with the Reagan administration.

999
00:48:38.440 --> 00:48:38.639
<v Speaker 3>Yeah.

1000
00:48:39.559 --> 00:48:42.440
<v Speaker 2>True, very Perry is a great source, but he misses

1001
00:48:42.519 --> 00:48:46.000
<v Speaker 2>the look. One thing that's not understood by a lot

1002
00:48:46.000 --> 00:48:48.440
<v Speaker 2>of people, right is that they figure that military strategy

1003
00:48:48.480 --> 00:48:51.320
<v Speaker 2>is pretty simple. If we fund somebody's enemy, we're looking

1004
00:48:51.320 --> 00:48:52.199
<v Speaker 2>to destroy.

1005
00:48:51.840 --> 00:48:52.559
<v Speaker 1>That person, right.

1006
00:48:53.079 --> 00:48:53.400
<v Speaker 3>We're not.

1007
00:48:54.039 --> 00:48:55.559
<v Speaker 1>That's not necessarily the case.

1008
00:48:55.679 --> 00:48:58.199
<v Speaker 2>Sometimes we're just trying to keep him busy so that

1009
00:48:58.239 --> 00:49:01.599
<v Speaker 2>they don't have time and they don't have to develop

1010
00:49:01.679 --> 00:49:04.480
<v Speaker 2>something else. Okay, and if you keep them busy with

1011
00:49:04.480 --> 00:49:07.159
<v Speaker 2>the conflict on a border, believe me, that'll keep them

1012
00:49:07.199 --> 00:49:10.840
<v Speaker 2>busy a long time, and sometimes you gotta prop up

1013
00:49:10.880 --> 00:49:13.119
<v Speaker 2>the enemy. You prop up the enemy to keep the

1014
00:49:13.159 --> 00:49:15.760
<v Speaker 2>conflict going, to keep it raging. You know why, it

1015
00:49:15.760 --> 00:49:20.079
<v Speaker 2>doesn't cost us anything because we're doing this, okay, via

1016
00:49:20.800 --> 00:49:25.280
<v Speaker 2>what a surrogate. So you put a surrogate in there.

1017
00:49:25.480 --> 00:49:28.639
<v Speaker 2>They're losing their people, they're losing their equipment. We're the

1018
00:49:28.679 --> 00:49:31.079
<v Speaker 2>good guys. We come in and fund them, and secretly

1019
00:49:31.280 --> 00:49:34.320
<v Speaker 2>you drop a little to the enemy too, through another surrogate,

1020
00:49:34.519 --> 00:49:36.639
<v Speaker 2>so it doesn't look like you. And that kind of

1021
00:49:36.639 --> 00:49:39.039
<v Speaker 2>strategy used to work out a lot better in the

1022
00:49:39.119 --> 00:49:41.159
<v Speaker 2>days when we didn't have satellite coverage like we do

1023
00:49:41.239 --> 00:49:44.199
<v Speaker 2>now and news coverage like we do now. You're gonna

1024
00:49:44.199 --> 00:49:46.840
<v Speaker 2>get caught pulling that crap. Now, okay, you want to

1025
00:49:46.880 --> 00:49:49.039
<v Speaker 2>fund both sides of a war, you're gonna get caught.

1026
00:49:49.480 --> 00:49:53.639
<v Speaker 2>Even if people don't understand what they're seeing, somebody will, Okay.

1027
00:49:53.840 --> 00:49:56.519
<v Speaker 2>So the bottom line is, we can fund both sides

1028
00:49:56.519 --> 00:49:59.599
<v Speaker 2>of any conflict at any time back then, and as

1029
00:49:59.679 --> 00:50:02.400
<v Speaker 2>long as it was you know, within the budget, made sense.

1030
00:50:02.559 --> 00:50:05.960
<v Speaker 2>Keep them busy with each other, even you know, perfect

1031
00:50:05.960 --> 00:50:10.039
<v Speaker 2>way to go triangular diplomacy. There's triangular military strategy as well,

1032
00:50:10.280 --> 00:50:14.280
<v Speaker 2>it's not all about search and destroy, Okay, Sometimes it's

1033
00:50:14.320 --> 00:50:15.760
<v Speaker 2>about distract and deflect.

1034
00:50:16.440 --> 00:50:18.159
<v Speaker 1>And I think.

1035
00:50:18.000 --> 00:50:20.320
<v Speaker 2>People fail to understand that. They just figure it's all

1036
00:50:20.320 --> 00:50:22.119
<v Speaker 2>about well, you just tall you're out there to destroy

1037
00:50:22.159 --> 00:50:25.239
<v Speaker 2>the enemy, that's it. No, it's not always a simple

1038
00:50:25.280 --> 00:50:27.159
<v Speaker 2>game like that, especially when you're not playing with your

1039
00:50:27.199 --> 00:50:29.639
<v Speaker 2>own pieces on the board. If you can use somebody

1040
00:50:29.639 --> 00:50:34.239
<v Speaker 2>else's keep them busy for a decade, no problem. Okay,

1041
00:50:34.840 --> 00:50:38.280
<v Speaker 2>just don't get caught. Don't get caught doing both, you know,

1042
00:50:38.679 --> 00:50:42.559
<v Speaker 2>get caught doing one, not both. Very simple, just like

1043
00:50:42.599 --> 00:50:44.800
<v Speaker 2>how the Civil War went when we had weapons being

1044
00:50:44.800 --> 00:50:49.719
<v Speaker 2>sold to both sides here prolong the conflict. Okay, somebody

1045
00:50:49.719 --> 00:50:52.119
<v Speaker 2>did that for a whole reason, all right, because they

1046
00:50:52.119 --> 00:50:55.199
<v Speaker 2>wanted to get their feet. They're footholding certain businesses. And

1047
00:50:55.239 --> 00:50:57.079
<v Speaker 2>by the way, that ties to the Bush family, thank

1048
00:50:57.119 --> 00:51:00.960
<v Speaker 2>you very much. And you know that's a that's not

1049
00:51:01.079 --> 00:51:04.440
<v Speaker 2>even uh you know, the Prescott later. I'm talking about

1050
00:51:04.480 --> 00:51:08.480
<v Speaker 2>the ones that come in with Barbara Bush.

1051
00:51:07.119 --> 00:51:11.000
<v Speaker 1>Her family, right, they were funded both sides of the

1052
00:51:11.039 --> 00:51:15.599
<v Speaker 1>Civil War. I mean, God help us. Anyways, go ahead, No, Danny,

1053
00:51:15.599 --> 00:51:17.360
<v Speaker 1>I'm so George.

1054
00:51:17.519 --> 00:51:20.480
<v Speaker 8>Yeah, well no, no, when George, but you know, George

1055
00:51:20.679 --> 00:51:22.800
<v Speaker 8>h us when he got an office, he you know,

1056
00:51:22.880 --> 00:51:25.119
<v Speaker 8>went on the board of the Carlis which was based

1057
00:51:25.159 --> 00:51:28.320
<v Speaker 8>still a military contractor. So yeah, it's just, you know,

1058
00:51:28.440 --> 00:51:31.360
<v Speaker 8>keep the conflict going, keep them busy, make profits. Talk

1059
00:51:31.440 --> 00:51:33.960
<v Speaker 8>about the civil wars. Notice that you have both the

1060
00:51:34.039 --> 00:51:36.519
<v Speaker 8>Union and the Consederates. They got all these uniforms.

1061
00:51:36.519 --> 00:51:37.079
<v Speaker 6>They got to have.

1062
00:51:37.119 --> 00:51:39.840
<v Speaker 8>Uniforms and supplies, right, Yeah, they want to you know,

1063
00:51:40.079 --> 00:51:42.760
<v Speaker 8>somebody's make a lot of money. Let's keep this conflict going.

1064
00:51:43.760 --> 00:51:46.679
<v Speaker 2>Whether you're making military meals or you're making shoes, it

1065
00:51:46.719 --> 00:51:49.760
<v Speaker 2>doesn't really matter, does it. Okay, you got to you

1066
00:51:49.840 --> 00:51:53.280
<v Speaker 2>gotta make tense, you go whatever. So, yeah, lots of

1067
00:51:53.280 --> 00:51:53.679
<v Speaker 2>money there.

1068
00:51:54.840 --> 00:51:55.239
<v Speaker 1>That's why.

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<v Speaker 2>That's why Halliburton, that's why Halliburton could turn around and

1070
00:51:59.480 --> 00:52:02.039
<v Speaker 2>buy up all at a toxic crap and then and

1071
00:52:02.079 --> 00:52:03.800
<v Speaker 2>then make their make a load of money.

1072
00:52:03.599 --> 00:52:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Off of it. Anyway, because they they were they had

1073
00:52:07.119 --> 00:52:13.800
<v Speaker 1>the end for the contracts anyways, business business of war.

1074
00:52:13.880 --> 00:52:21.079
<v Speaker 13>Yeah, Jimmy, go ahead, oh uh, you say, the business

1075
00:52:21.280 --> 00:52:22.599
<v Speaker 13>war and make the money.

1076
00:52:23.239 --> 00:52:24.880
<v Speaker 9>Aren't they worried they might lose?

1077
00:52:26.760 --> 00:52:30.440
<v Speaker 2>Well, how do you lose if you have two sides

1078
00:52:30.719 --> 00:52:34.239
<v Speaker 2>of a military and you're able to supply both of them,

1079
00:52:34.559 --> 00:52:37.280
<v Speaker 2>and they're willing to be in a conflict with one

1080
00:52:37.320 --> 00:52:38.639
<v Speaker 2>another for whatever reason.

1081
00:52:40.760 --> 00:52:41.360
<v Speaker 1>How do you lose?

1082
00:52:42.480 --> 00:52:45.400
<v Speaker 5>You just started out with a pretty big play. If

1083
00:52:45.440 --> 00:52:47.440
<v Speaker 5>you control both sides.

1084
00:52:47.519 --> 00:52:50.360
<v Speaker 1>No no, no control no no, no, no, no, no no. You

1085
00:52:50.400 --> 00:52:53.519
<v Speaker 1>don't got to control both sides, not at all.

1086
00:52:53.320 --> 00:52:56.760
<v Speaker 2>Well, all you got to do is activate one side, Jim.

1087
00:52:56.800 --> 00:52:59.119
<v Speaker 2>You don't got to control both sides. You got to

1088
00:52:59.159 --> 00:53:02.440
<v Speaker 2>be able to feed both sides, not control both sides.

1089
00:53:03.880 --> 00:53:11.480
<v Speaker 2>You see, you just get one of them motivating the

1090
00:53:11.639 --> 00:53:13.519
<v Speaker 2>right control, and you.

1091
00:53:13.639 --> 00:53:17.440
<v Speaker 5>Just end up destroying your whole country. Don't take that's

1092
00:53:17.440 --> 00:53:19.679
<v Speaker 5>a little risky for a couple of boot sales.

1093
00:53:19.840 --> 00:53:22.199
<v Speaker 2>But you don't do it in your country, do you?

1094
00:53:22.199 --> 00:53:23.719
<v Speaker 2>You do it way somewhere else.

1095
00:53:27.719 --> 00:53:29.960
<v Speaker 5>What's been going on in the last four years? How

1096
00:53:30.000 --> 00:53:32.559
<v Speaker 5>come it's happening in our country? Is someone trying to

1097
00:53:32.599 --> 00:53:33.440
<v Speaker 5>destroy us?

1098
00:53:34.719 --> 00:53:37.840
<v Speaker 1>Well, you guys, you guys have said that, haven't you.

1099
00:53:38.239 --> 00:53:39.079
<v Speaker 1>Is that there's somebody.

1100
00:53:39.159 --> 00:53:41.599
<v Speaker 2>I think you got the wrong culprit, but you're right,

1101
00:53:41.840 --> 00:53:46.480
<v Speaker 2>there is somebody looking to systematically strip this country. We're

1102
00:53:46.480 --> 00:53:50.480
<v Speaker 2>being striped mined. Basically, there's gonna be no resources left.

1103
00:53:52.800 --> 00:53:54.880
<v Speaker 1>I give it, I give it.

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00:53:54.840 --> 00:53:58.119
<v Speaker 13>Five years isn't murderful safety.

1105
00:53:59.760 --> 00:54:02.320
<v Speaker 2>I believe there's gonna be no resources left here human

1106
00:54:02.400 --> 00:54:07.039
<v Speaker 2>or otherwise in five years, Okay, and that's the way

1107
00:54:07.079 --> 00:54:07.639
<v Speaker 2>we're going.

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00:54:08.239 --> 00:54:11.320
<v Speaker 10>You want five years?

1109
00:54:11.840 --> 00:54:12.039
<v Speaker 3>Boy?

1110
00:54:12.119 --> 00:54:14.880
<v Speaker 5>If I honestly thought I'd be here in five years,

1111
00:54:15.079 --> 00:54:17.000
<v Speaker 5>I didn't make any bet you wanted.

1112
00:54:18.400 --> 00:54:20.280
<v Speaker 9>I bet a year from now the world.

1113
00:54:20.119 --> 00:54:26.360
<v Speaker 5>Will be at peace to a far greater extent. I

1114
00:54:26.440 --> 00:54:29.239
<v Speaker 5>believe the gas will be Oh, I don't owe a

1115
00:54:29.360 --> 00:54:33.320
<v Speaker 5>buck cheaper a gallon, And I predict that you and

1116
00:54:33.440 --> 00:54:36.800
<v Speaker 5>Danny will still be talking about what an awful tyrant

1117
00:54:37.360 --> 00:54:43.639
<v Speaker 5>Trump is, and meanwhile the whole country will return to normality.

1118
00:54:43.840 --> 00:54:45.559
<v Speaker 1>Did I did I say anything about Trump being a

1119
00:54:45.599 --> 00:54:48.360
<v Speaker 1>tyrant during the show? Did I say something like that? Pepe?

1120
00:54:48.480 --> 00:54:49.360
<v Speaker 1>Did I say something like.

1121
00:54:49.320 --> 00:54:55.280
<v Speaker 3>That turned the whole course of this show? I have

1122
00:54:55.480 --> 00:54:58.840
<v Speaker 3>no idea. As many comments as you've made about Trump,

1123
00:54:58.840 --> 00:55:02.559
<v Speaker 3>I don't know you could. It is in the realm

1124
00:55:02.599 --> 00:55:03.440
<v Speaker 3>of possibility.

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00:55:03.480 --> 00:55:06.719
<v Speaker 2>I think I said that that the media has now

1126
00:55:06.800 --> 00:55:08.320
<v Speaker 2>gone to his side openly.

1127
00:55:09.159 --> 00:55:09.360
<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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00:55:09.440 --> 00:55:11.360
<v Speaker 2>I think I said that even previous when they were

1129
00:55:11.360 --> 00:55:13.880
<v Speaker 2>opposing him, that it was all a sham, It was

1130
00:55:13.960 --> 00:55:16.719
<v Speaker 2>just to build up ratings and have content. I said

1131
00:55:16.760 --> 00:55:19.559
<v Speaker 2>that I didn't say anything about him being tyrant. I

1132
00:55:19.559 --> 00:55:21.079
<v Speaker 2>called some other people tyrants.

1133
00:55:21.639 --> 00:55:24.760
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, he was in office.

1134
00:55:24.880 --> 00:55:28.400
<v Speaker 1>I called Fdr tyrant, I called if your tyrant. I

1135
00:55:28.400 --> 00:55:28.719
<v Speaker 1>did that.

1136
00:55:29.159 --> 00:55:30.039
<v Speaker 9>You did do that.

1137
00:55:30.760 --> 00:55:35.079
<v Speaker 5>But you've called, You've applied that Trump a million times

1138
00:55:35.159 --> 00:55:38.880
<v Speaker 5>is some kind of authoritarian And even though he's a

1139
00:55:38.920 --> 00:55:46.639
<v Speaker 5>peace nick, you keep saying he's a warm hunger. It's insane. Okay,

1140
00:55:46.880 --> 00:55:47.639
<v Speaker 5>I don't get it.

1141
00:55:48.000 --> 00:55:49.800
<v Speaker 6>No, you you want you want.

1142
00:55:49.639 --> 00:55:52.840
<v Speaker 2>My honest opinion on Trump really totally unfettered at this point.

1143
00:55:52.960 --> 00:55:54.599
<v Speaker 2>I could give it to you, but you won't like

1144
00:55:54.639 --> 00:55:56.280
<v Speaker 2>it either way. It's not the one you just gave.

1145
00:55:56.360 --> 00:55:59.760
<v Speaker 9>I already know it. There's no reason.

1146
00:56:00.119 --> 00:56:02.360
<v Speaker 6>What is Trump?

1147
00:56:02.440 --> 00:56:03.239
<v Speaker 1>Tell me? Tell me.

1148
00:56:07.519 --> 00:56:11.280
<v Speaker 5>I've heard you say a million times. You think he's

1149
00:56:11.719 --> 00:56:14.960
<v Speaker 5>the caricature that you had from your head thirty years ago.

1150
00:56:15.800 --> 00:56:19.920
<v Speaker 5>He's the blah blah from the bar and he's ripping. Oh,

1151
00:56:20.079 --> 00:56:22.320
<v Speaker 5>he's a welfare tant or whatever.

1152
00:56:22.400 --> 00:56:22.719
<v Speaker 9>They say.

1153
00:56:22.840 --> 00:56:26.000
<v Speaker 13>What the hell are you talking about welfare? You think

1154
00:56:26.119 --> 00:56:30.639
<v Speaker 13>that Donald Trump was granding to Section eight people. Yeah,

1155
00:56:30.760 --> 00:56:33.320
<v Speaker 13>some retard was trying to say he made a bunch

1156
00:56:33.360 --> 00:56:37.079
<v Speaker 13>of his money from the government, calling him a slum lord.

1157
00:56:37.320 --> 00:56:40.239
<v Speaker 1>Were you not so no, his father was a slum lord.

1158
00:56:40.280 --> 00:56:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Not know that his father was the slum lord. He

1159
00:56:43.840 --> 00:56:47.039
<v Speaker 1>inherited that business. But that's Bred Trump. You take a

1160
00:56:47.039 --> 00:56:47.360
<v Speaker 1>look at the.

1161
00:56:47.320 --> 00:56:51.320
<v Speaker 2>Commission and the places he had in New York, and

1162
00:56:51.360 --> 00:56:52.320
<v Speaker 2>he got government money.

1163
00:56:52.320 --> 00:56:55.559
<v Speaker 5>He got a seven million dollars from the Dad as

1164
00:56:55.599 --> 00:56:56.679
<v Speaker 5>I recall.

1165
00:56:56.840 --> 00:57:00.280
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, okay, he got to go to this. They got government.

1166
00:57:00.239 --> 00:57:03.679
<v Speaker 5>Money become billionaires.

1167
00:57:04.119 --> 00:57:04.639
<v Speaker 1>Uh huh.

1168
00:57:04.719 --> 00:57:07.320
<v Speaker 2>They got government money for a whole bunch of improvements

1169
00:57:07.360 --> 00:57:11.719
<v Speaker 2>to its some some very very dilapidated properties in Queens.

1170
00:57:12.280 --> 00:57:14.639
<v Speaker 2>But that's the only thing I could claim there. And

1171
00:57:14.679 --> 00:57:17.679
<v Speaker 2>that's Fred Trump's organization. That's not Donald's. Donald's whole thing

1172
00:57:17.960 --> 00:57:21.679
<v Speaker 2>is selling his brand and selling himself. And I don't

1173
00:57:21.679 --> 00:57:24.719
<v Speaker 2>think he gives a damn about anybody like you, me

1174
00:57:24.960 --> 00:57:28.480
<v Speaker 2>or anybody else. But that's the way I see him.

1175
00:57:28.519 --> 00:57:31.920
<v Speaker 2>I didn't a tyrant. He's just he's just another, you know,

1176
00:57:32.679 --> 00:57:36.000
<v Speaker 2>another big businessman that's out there to rob everybody.

1177
00:57:36.119 --> 00:57:36.519
<v Speaker 1>That's all.

1178
00:57:38.360 --> 00:57:39.280
<v Speaker 9>Why did he run?

1179
00:57:39.719 --> 00:57:42.400
<v Speaker 5>If all he cares about himselfs wh why did Trump

1180
00:57:42.440 --> 00:57:43.159
<v Speaker 5>bother to run?

1181
00:57:43.599 --> 00:57:44.559
<v Speaker 9>He's eighty years.

1182
00:57:44.400 --> 00:57:48.280
<v Speaker 5>Old almost, Why didn't he just ten years ago just retire?

1183
00:57:48.400 --> 00:57:50.920
<v Speaker 2>Gives him the position of power, and he was. He

1184
00:57:51.000 --> 00:57:55.760
<v Speaker 2>was almost broke about fifteen years ago. Okay, how much

1185
00:57:55.800 --> 00:57:57.920
<v Speaker 2>money got flushed? You know, you know how many billions

1186
00:57:57.960 --> 00:57:59.000
<v Speaker 2>of dollars that I lost?

1187
00:58:01.320 --> 00:58:05.760
<v Speaker 1>Okay, it's okay.

1188
00:58:06.079 --> 00:58:09.719
<v Speaker 13>Ten years ago he was making one hundred million dollars.

1189
00:58:09.320 --> 00:58:11.599
<v Speaker 9>A year for a NBC.

1190
00:58:12.039 --> 00:58:15.920
<v Speaker 5>He was the most celebrated man on television. Yeah, he

1191
00:58:16.079 --> 00:58:17.800
<v Speaker 5>was really in rough shit, all right.

1192
00:58:17.840 --> 00:58:19.920
<v Speaker 1>He couldn't even pay his loan payments. But that's okay,

1193
00:58:20.320 --> 00:58:22.800
<v Speaker 1>that that hundred million wouldn't even pay the loan payments

1194
00:58:22.800 --> 00:58:23.239
<v Speaker 1>on the stuff.

1195
00:58:23.320 --> 00:58:28.880
<v Speaker 5>Yet we just went through this. He went to court

1196
00:58:29.079 --> 00:58:32.480
<v Speaker 5>because they claimed that he tried to cheat on.

1197
00:58:32.480 --> 00:58:34.320
<v Speaker 9>A loan, which is ass nine.

1198
00:58:34.920 --> 00:58:38.800
<v Speaker 5>He paid every cent back. Even the banks said, now

1199
00:58:38.880 --> 00:58:40.199
<v Speaker 5>we're pretty happy with him.

1200
00:58:40.239 --> 00:58:42.119
<v Speaker 9>We made five hundred billion.

1201
00:58:41.880 --> 00:58:44.559
<v Speaker 5>Dollars profit in the last ten years from the guy.

1202
00:58:44.719 --> 00:58:48.480
<v Speaker 1>It's all good. It's all millions, it's all good.

1203
00:58:48.519 --> 00:58:50.000
<v Speaker 2>The same thing that you would have went to jail

1204
00:58:50.079 --> 00:58:51.920
<v Speaker 2>for trying to trying to push up the price on

1205
00:58:51.960 --> 00:58:53.039
<v Speaker 2>your house by ten grand.

1206
00:58:53.800 --> 00:58:56.639
<v Speaker 1>He gets nothing, and he's gonna get nothing for anything

1207
00:58:56.639 --> 00:58:58.480
<v Speaker 1>he did, whether he was whether it was true or not.

1208
00:58:59.320 --> 00:58:59.840
<v Speaker 1>So there you go.

1209
00:59:01.159 --> 00:59:04.480
<v Speaker 4>I have working for an accountant and looking at some

1210
00:59:04.559 --> 00:59:08.559
<v Speaker 4>of these large companies that hold several hotels yep, and

1211
00:59:08.719 --> 00:59:11.360
<v Speaker 4>several car dealers and things of that nature.

1212
00:59:11.639 --> 00:59:11.920
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

1213
00:59:13.199 --> 00:59:17.920
<v Speaker 4>Trump did what is done a billion times a day,

1214
00:59:18.079 --> 00:59:20.039
<v Speaker 4>even when it comes to Mom.

1215
00:59:19.760 --> 00:59:22.559
<v Speaker 3>And Joe blow trying to buy a house.

1216
00:59:22.719 --> 00:59:25.559
<v Speaker 1>Absolutely true. The bigger the numbers get, the more they're

1217
00:59:25.599 --> 00:59:26.199
<v Speaker 1>full of crap.

1218
00:59:27.239 --> 00:59:30.519
<v Speaker 4>Anybody going to jail for overinflating their property unless it

1219
00:59:30.599 --> 00:59:33.199
<v Speaker 4>was involved in a fraud.

1220
00:59:33.159 --> 00:59:34.760
<v Speaker 2>You got you gotta look up. You got to look

1221
00:59:34.840 --> 00:59:36.800
<v Speaker 2>up what happens in the federal courts man. People go

1222
00:59:36.840 --> 00:59:40.679
<v Speaker 2>to jail all the time for conspiracy on the stuff constantly,

1223
00:59:41.119 --> 00:59:42.880
<v Speaker 2>only if it involved faun.

1224
00:59:43.639 --> 00:59:43.840
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

1225
00:59:44.000 --> 00:59:46.119
<v Speaker 3>Trump didn't do anything that involve.

1226
00:59:45.840 --> 00:59:48.159
<v Speaker 1>Faud Okay, So what's the position.

1227
00:59:48.000 --> 00:59:50.199
<v Speaker 4>Is that you just got mailed for did not involve

1228
00:59:50.239 --> 00:59:53.760
<v Speaker 4>fraud at anything that I read another opinion today where

1229
00:59:53.800 --> 00:59:58.199
<v Speaker 4>guy said this was a nothing crime with a nothing sentence.

1230
00:59:58.840 --> 00:59:59.079
<v Speaker 1>Yep.

1231
00:59:59.159 --> 01:00:01.800
<v Speaker 4>And that's why it was nothing because the crime was nothing.

1232
01:00:01.800 --> 01:00:04.079
<v Speaker 4>The crime didn't even exist. It's made up.

1233
01:00:04.320 --> 01:00:04.679
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

1234
01:00:04.760 --> 01:00:07.920
<v Speaker 2>So you try and inflate the value of something that

1235
01:00:07.960 --> 01:00:09.840
<v Speaker 2>you're trying to get a loan on and get cut back.

1236
01:00:09.920 --> 01:00:13.880
<v Speaker 4>Always going on alone, I always overinflate my assets because

1237
01:00:13.920 --> 01:00:16.159
<v Speaker 4>I know that they're going to do their due diligence

1238
01:00:16.159 --> 01:00:17.440
<v Speaker 4>and they're going to have it appraised.

1239
01:00:17.840 --> 01:00:20.119
<v Speaker 3>So it doesn't matter what value I've put on it.

1240
01:00:20.480 --> 01:00:22.920
<v Speaker 4>What matters is the paperwork from the appraiser when he

1241
01:00:23.000 --> 01:00:25.400
<v Speaker 4>comes back and says it's this, because that's what the

1242
01:00:25.440 --> 01:00:26.920
<v Speaker 4>bank or the financial.

1243
01:00:26.440 --> 01:00:28.599
<v Speaker 3>Institution is going to base it on and it's their

1244
01:00:28.639 --> 01:00:29.320
<v Speaker 3>own search.

1245
01:00:29.519 --> 01:00:32.320
<v Speaker 2>And what do you sign to every time you give

1246
01:00:32.320 --> 01:00:34.679
<v Speaker 2>them an inflated number, something that says that if you're

1247
01:00:34.719 --> 01:00:36.679
<v Speaker 2>giving them false information.

1248
01:00:36.639 --> 01:00:38.880
<v Speaker 1>You agree to be prosecuted for it, don't you.

1249
01:00:39.000 --> 01:00:42.159
<v Speaker 4>It's not false, it's based on my opinion or belief.

1250
01:00:43.039 --> 01:00:45.280
<v Speaker 4>If it's based on my research, and I can say

1251
01:00:45.320 --> 01:00:47.920
<v Speaker 4>I've got three comparable properties to use to say that

1252
01:00:48.079 --> 01:00:51.039
<v Speaker 4>this is worked this much. And then you come back

1253
01:00:51.360 --> 01:00:53.920
<v Speaker 4>with your side, say, well, our appraiser says it's this.

1254
01:00:54.199 --> 01:00:57.400
<v Speaker 3>So because our appraiser says it's this, we'll give you.

1255
01:00:57.360 --> 01:00:59.920
<v Speaker 4>Seventy percent of that and this is the amount that

1256
01:01:00.039 --> 01:01:03.639
<v Speaker 4>will loan you. It's just a standard transaction. So you

1257
01:01:03.760 --> 01:01:06.800
<v Speaker 4>always over inflate. No, there's very few people except the

1258
01:01:06.880 --> 01:01:08.800
<v Speaker 4>praisers that are in certain lines.

1259
01:01:08.880 --> 01:01:11.320
<v Speaker 3>Car appraisers. They can give you an honest price on

1260
01:01:11.360 --> 01:01:11.679
<v Speaker 3>a car.

1261
01:01:12.039 --> 01:01:16.599
<v Speaker 4>Antiquappraisers they can give you an honest value of an antique.

1262
01:01:17.280 --> 01:01:19.920
<v Speaker 3>Commercial developers can go out and give.

1263
01:01:19.800 --> 01:01:24.679
<v Speaker 4>You their opinion of what that that business and all

1264
01:01:24.719 --> 01:01:28.679
<v Speaker 4>of its assets is worth. It happens a thousand times,

1265
01:01:28.719 --> 01:01:31.840
<v Speaker 4>and it's all subjective until you start whipping out the comparables.

1266
01:01:31.880 --> 01:01:34.920
<v Speaker 3>Well, let me let me ask you to jail. Okay,

1267
01:01:35.000 --> 01:01:37.440
<v Speaker 3>I've never heard of anybody going to jail unless it

1268
01:01:37.599 --> 01:01:39.440
<v Speaker 3>involved Okay.

1269
01:01:39.239 --> 01:01:41.800
<v Speaker 1>Rich people are all good, fine, got you, Okay, Let

1270
01:01:41.800 --> 01:01:44.239
<v Speaker 1>me just ask you a question. Let me just ask

1271
01:01:44.280 --> 01:01:44.880
<v Speaker 1>you this question.

1272
01:01:45.559 --> 01:01:49.760
<v Speaker 2>Do you think do you honestly believe that you get

1273
01:01:49.800 --> 01:01:53.760
<v Speaker 2>the same kind of treatment from these institutions as somebody

1274
01:01:53.880 --> 01:01:56.440
<v Speaker 2>like a Trump, as somebody who's in a big corporation.

1275
01:01:56.519 --> 01:01:58.119
<v Speaker 2>You get the same kind of treatment, You get the

1276
01:01:58.119 --> 01:02:00.440
<v Speaker 2>same kind of Hey, I give them a value, they

1277
01:02:00.480 --> 01:02:01.599
<v Speaker 2>give me. One day, they're going.

1278
01:02:01.599 --> 01:02:03.719
<v Speaker 1>To adjust to this. You you honestly think that's the

1279
01:02:03.719 --> 01:02:04.480
<v Speaker 1>way it's done.

1280
01:02:05.559 --> 01:02:07.559
<v Speaker 3>Yes, that's the way it's done. It happens all the time.

1281
01:02:07.599 --> 01:02:08.039
<v Speaker 3>Believe me.

1282
01:02:08.159 --> 01:02:09.960
<v Speaker 4>When I was working for an accountant, I saw what

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<v Speaker 4>these people went through going to get appraisals. When it

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<v Speaker 4>came time we had guys in bankruptcy, they had to

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<v Speaker 4>come up with what their what their figures were, and

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<v Speaker 4>then you had an independent trustee go in and they

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<v Speaker 4>decided what figures were and it's all negotiated out. I

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<v Speaker 4>have never heard of anybody going to jail for inflating

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01:02:29.519 --> 01:02:33.199
<v Speaker 4>the value of an asset unless it involved fraud.

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<v Speaker 3>Okay, unless they did something that was illegal, excellent, connected

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<v Speaker 3>to the inflation. People over inflate their assets all the.

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<v Speaker 1>Time, excellent. Okay.

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<v Speaker 2>Hey, look, it's gonna take a little while for people

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<v Speaker 2>who think that this is all okay to die off.

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<v Speaker 2>So once that happens, we'll see a.

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<v Speaker 14>Goodpt I for uh, you know how the Tuck's very

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<v Speaker 14>concerned about people's financial appraisals.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, that da in New.

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<v Speaker 5>York City APIs Mara a lago for eighteen million dollars.

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<v Speaker 5>I think she should be prosecuted for that, because everybody

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01:03:21.800 --> 01:03:26.559
<v Speaker 5>knows that piece of property is literally worth one billion dollars.

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<v Speaker 10>Based out all the other properties around there.

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<v Speaker 4>He should be unless now, if you could be if

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01:03:32.280 --> 01:03:35.119
<v Speaker 4>you could civilly take her into court and prove fraud

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<v Speaker 4>in her in her going after Trump. Yeah, that's the problem.

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01:03:39.440 --> 01:03:41.079
<v Speaker 4>You've got to prove a connected fraud.

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<v Speaker 3>You've got to prove an the legality to whatever what

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01:03:44.519 --> 01:03:47.719
<v Speaker 3>was it? Eighteen million? Eighteen million wouldn't even buy what

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01:03:48.000 --> 01:03:52.719
<v Speaker 3>three feet of curb frontage at Mar A Lago because

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<v Speaker 3>of what it's worth.

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<v Speaker 1>Now, you guys are going to get what you want

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01:03:54.840 --> 01:03:55.440
<v Speaker 1>because they're going to.

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<v Speaker 2>Go after everybody who even made a single complaint. That's

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01:03:59.039 --> 01:03:59.760
<v Speaker 2>the way it's going to go.

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<v Speaker 3>So how do you figure, No, Trump got a special deal.

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01:04:06.400 --> 01:04:08.400
<v Speaker 3>Trump got whatever deal he got.

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01:04:08.239 --> 01:04:10.440
<v Speaker 4>From the people he's used to doing business with. It

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<v Speaker 4>happens all the time, not just with Trump and not

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01:04:13.400 --> 01:04:16.480
<v Speaker 4>just with multi billion dollar deals.

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<v Speaker 3>It happens down the street when the guy was to

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01:04:19.360 --> 01:04:22.280
<v Speaker 3>sell his Yamaha dealership and they have to come to

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01:04:22.320 --> 01:04:25.079
<v Speaker 3>a price, or somebody goes into bankruptcy and they have

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<v Speaker 3>to come up with appraisals of what the actual assets

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01:04:27.599 --> 01:04:29.719
<v Speaker 3>are worth. See, it happens all the time. If I

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01:04:29.760 --> 01:04:32.400
<v Speaker 3>agree with you've never seen anybody go to jail.

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<v Speaker 2>If I agree with you, and if you were and

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<v Speaker 2>if you were real about this, just Trump, if you

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01:04:37.360 --> 01:04:40.239
<v Speaker 2>were real about this and you really believe this, then

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<v Speaker 2>you would be calling for the release of practically ninety

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<v Speaker 2>percent of the people who have been caught up in

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01:04:45.480 --> 01:04:48.599
<v Speaker 2>Rico trials over the past thirty years. You know that

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<v Speaker 2>every mob guy, Sally, Oh, you know how many mob

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01:04:52.079 --> 01:04:54.280
<v Speaker 2>guys have gone down for exactly that kind of crap

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01:04:54.320 --> 01:04:57.000
<v Speaker 2>where they've just overinflated crap and then gotten a loan

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01:04:57.039 --> 01:04:58.880
<v Speaker 2>off it and then not paid the loan back like

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01:04:58.880 --> 01:05:01.719
<v Speaker 2>Trump did, or turned around and paid the loan back.

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<v Speaker 9>And still that's the dirits.

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<v Speaker 5>Trump paid back his damn loans, not all.

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01:05:07.880 --> 01:05:10.519
<v Speaker 1>Of them, not all of them. That's not true.

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<v Speaker 13>There's wait a minute, yep, he did, okay, so even

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01:05:14.039 --> 01:05:17.719
<v Speaker 13>the lasering five chats belaven and restructured the loans.

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01:05:17.760 --> 01:05:18.760
<v Speaker 5>He paid them back.

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<v Speaker 2>So you ignored all the foreign banks. Fine, cool, great, anyway,

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01:05:23.239 --> 01:05:25.880
<v Speaker 2>So how many how many Rico trial guys? How many

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01:05:25.880 --> 01:05:28.480
<v Speaker 2>mobsters need to be released guys? How many of them

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01:05:28.480 --> 01:05:29.800
<v Speaker 2>now because they are.

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01:05:31.360 --> 01:05:32.360
<v Speaker 1>Exactly the same crap?

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<v Speaker 3>How many? Let me ask this question, how many of

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01:05:35.480 --> 01:05:38.079
<v Speaker 3>those individuals connected with the mob that went down for

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01:05:38.119 --> 01:05:41.920
<v Speaker 3>a Rico statue were doing things that were illegal to

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01:05:42.000 --> 01:05:42.920
<v Speaker 3>get that money.

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01:05:43.719 --> 01:05:44.360
<v Speaker 1>Here's the thing.

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01:05:44.639 --> 01:05:47.719
<v Speaker 2>That's a lot of them with just inflated assets and

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01:05:47.760 --> 01:05:48.840
<v Speaker 2>switching that crap out.

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01:05:49.719 --> 01:05:54.000
<v Speaker 3>Trump did not do anything that was illegal. He used

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01:05:54.039 --> 01:05:58.239
<v Speaker 3>standard accounting practices to keep the things on his books.

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01:05:58.440 --> 01:06:01.599
<v Speaker 3>What they did was made up a crime and connected

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01:06:01.639 --> 01:06:07.039
<v Speaker 3>it to an election violation, and the election committee looked

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01:06:07.079 --> 01:06:09.320
<v Speaker 3>at it and said, we're not going to prosecute on this.

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01:06:09.679 --> 01:06:11.639
<v Speaker 3>It's not there's nothing here.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, if anybody doesn't believe me, study the Rico trials

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01:06:15.920 --> 01:06:18.639
<v Speaker 2>where they couldn't go couldn't nail people on murder because

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01:06:18.639 --> 01:06:21.880
<v Speaker 2>they couldn't catch them involved directly, but said the organization

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01:06:22.079 --> 01:06:24.199
<v Speaker 2>was involved. And what they really got them on the

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01:06:24.199 --> 01:06:28.119
<v Speaker 2>financial crimes is the constant inflating assets when they go

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01:06:28.199 --> 01:06:30.599
<v Speaker 2>for certain things and deflating them when they go from us.

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<v Speaker 4>The prime was not inflating the asset, and crime was

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01:06:33.599 --> 01:06:37.199
<v Speaker 4>inflating the asset in conjunction with doing something that was

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<v Speaker 4>against the law.

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<v Speaker 1>Okay, so did he file taxes during that time? Is

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01:06:41.679 --> 01:06:44.000
<v Speaker 1>that not? Is tax braught not a problem?

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<v Speaker 3>Taxes? Taxes are totally separate taxes.

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<v Speaker 4>He's had his taxes gone over inside now nineteen times.

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<v Speaker 1>Well, al Capone might disagree with you, the taxes.

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01:06:52.559 --> 01:06:55.079
<v Speaker 3>Aren't different, and he's paid his taxes.

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01:06:55.119 --> 01:06:57.559
<v Speaker 1>How Capone might disagree with you, the taxes are different

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01:06:57.599 --> 01:06:59.280
<v Speaker 1>considering that's the only thing they really put them in

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01:06:59.280 --> 01:06:59.679
<v Speaker 1>prison for.

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01:07:00.239 --> 01:07:05.000
<v Speaker 3>But yeah, that's how Capona from a legal difference.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, but you notice it wasn't because he had illegal

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01:07:08.159 --> 01:07:10.280
<v Speaker 2>It wasn't because the money was illegals because he didn't pay.

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01:07:10.119 --> 01:07:12.679
<v Speaker 1>The tax on it properly. That's what the problem was.

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01:07:13.760 --> 01:07:17.639
<v Speaker 3>Trump paid his taxes using an example that doesn't even

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01:07:17.719 --> 01:07:18.599
<v Speaker 3>fit the situation.

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01:07:19.239 --> 01:07:21.400
<v Speaker 2>Okay, so the year he paid seven hundred and ninety

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01:07:21.440 --> 01:07:23.519
<v Speaker 2>five dollars in tax you think that makes any sort

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01:07:23.559 --> 01:07:25.559
<v Speaker 2>of sense considering the amount of income he had.

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<v Speaker 3>Considering the amount of yeah, wide off that he had.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, awesome, there you go. So, like I said, check

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01:07:32.760 --> 01:07:35.239
<v Speaker 1>out the Rico trials, the people who went down all.

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<v Speaker 3>The other.

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<v Speaker 4>You're preparing apples and oranges in this thing and trying

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01:07:39.679 --> 01:07:41.840
<v Speaker 4>to say, Okay, well, if you let Trump get away

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01:07:41.840 --> 01:07:43.960
<v Speaker 4>with it, look at all these mobsters that are in

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01:07:44.039 --> 01:07:45.920
<v Speaker 4>jail that got put on it.

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<v Speaker 3>There's no comparison.

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01:07:47.480 --> 01:07:49.719
<v Speaker 4>Why not you acting like Trump has not had any

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01:07:49.719 --> 01:07:53.679
<v Speaker 4>scrutiny whatsoever if.

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<v Speaker 1>It's the same. Yeah, but here's the thing.

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<v Speaker 2>The government wanted to nail those guys and didn't want

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01:07:57.159 --> 01:07:59.519
<v Speaker 2>to nail him, And this is why it went on

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01:07:59.599 --> 01:07:59.960
<v Speaker 2>for so long?

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01:08:00.440 --> 01:08:02.440
<v Speaker 3>What do you mean the government didn't want to nail him.

1404
01:08:02.480 --> 01:08:05.280
<v Speaker 3>They just went through what five different trials that blew

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01:08:05.320 --> 01:08:08.599
<v Speaker 3>apart in trying to nail him, plus two impeachments.

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01:08:08.800 --> 01:08:12.480
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, all it was defeated.

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01:08:12.519 --> 01:08:15.519
<v Speaker 2>But the moment they entered it is really really come on,

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01:08:16.239 --> 01:08:18.840
<v Speaker 2>how how how ridiculous does it have to be before

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01:08:18.840 --> 01:08:21.159
<v Speaker 2>you realize that? You know, it's put out there as

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01:08:21.279 --> 01:08:25.000
<v Speaker 2>as a sham again to get people hooked.

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01:08:24.680 --> 01:08:27.319
<v Speaker 1>On the idea, Oh, this guy's gonna go down, and

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01:08:27.640 --> 01:08:30.000
<v Speaker 1>it's garbage. They know they didn't. They didn't go after

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01:08:30.079 --> 01:08:31.840
<v Speaker 1>him for any of the right stuff, none of it.

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01:08:32.600 --> 01:08:33.960
<v Speaker 3>What should they have gone after him for?

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01:08:34.800 --> 01:08:39.439
<v Speaker 1>How about selling pedaling influence which he did directly in public,

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01:08:39.840 --> 01:08:44.159
<v Speaker 1>right in front of everybody's face. But when when.

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01:08:47.720 --> 01:08:49.159
<v Speaker 3>Inuence, wait a minute.

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01:08:49.279 --> 01:08:51.439
<v Speaker 2>Then he go ahead, go ahead, because I'm just a maniac,

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01:08:51.560 --> 01:09:02.000
<v Speaker 2>So please give him something sane good. Danny has examples,

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01:09:02.000 --> 01:09:03.760
<v Speaker 2>and I have no idea about him. I'm willing to

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01:09:03.840 --> 01:09:05.800
<v Speaker 2>let him speak for a minute of your mind.

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<v Speaker 8>The souls just thought out there. I mean, Mlania just

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01:09:09.319 --> 01:09:12.359
<v Speaker 8>got I mean they're there for sale. Milania just got it.

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01:09:12.439 --> 01:09:17.239
<v Speaker 8>What a forty million dollars for a documentary from Amazon

1425
01:09:17.319 --> 01:09:21.359
<v Speaker 8>Jeff Bezos. Everybody knows that Trump's for sale. You know.

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01:09:22.880 --> 01:09:22.960
<v Speaker 3>What.

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01:09:23.199 --> 01:09:25.960
<v Speaker 8>Let's see his son Jeriic got two billion dollars from

1428
01:09:25.960 --> 01:09:29.520
<v Speaker 8>the Saudi government, his live government, his golf, the live

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01:09:29.600 --> 01:09:34.680
<v Speaker 8>government from Saudi Arabia. He's got deals in Omar right now,

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01:09:34.800 --> 01:09:40.479
<v Speaker 8>Turkey licensing deals. He's the Chuck's right. I mean, if

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01:09:40.479 --> 01:09:42.880
<v Speaker 8>you're really going to be honest, you have to go

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01:09:43.000 --> 01:09:45.600
<v Speaker 8>after him for the right things. If you actually read

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01:09:45.760 --> 01:09:49.520
<v Speaker 8>like the Mola report, nobody did back the second half

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01:09:49.600 --> 01:09:54.760
<v Speaker 8>the first half. The second half has showed ten counts

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01:09:54.479 --> 01:09:59.960
<v Speaker 8>of obstruction of justice, purjury, witness tampering. There's a hun

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01:10:00.039 --> 01:10:04.079
<v Speaker 8>hundred and fifty pages there of court talking and dan

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01:10:04.239 --> 01:10:07.960
<v Speaker 8>near seventy percent was all connected to the Clinton impeachments,

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01:10:07.960 --> 01:10:12.439
<v Speaker 8>which I favored Clinton being impeach. And guess what. Robert

1439
01:10:12.479 --> 01:10:18.119
<v Speaker 8>Moeller of Vietnam VETT, who Trump his insulted gold Star families,

1440
01:10:18.439 --> 01:10:21.520
<v Speaker 8>put it right out there, says, here's your blueprint. He goes,

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01:10:21.560 --> 01:10:24.279
<v Speaker 8>I can't impeach the president. I can't go up from krimly.

1442
01:10:24.560 --> 01:10:27.920
<v Speaker 8>But he gave a blueprint to the Republicans and the Democrats.

1443
01:10:28.319 --> 01:10:32.039
<v Speaker 8>One party to Both parties chose to do nothing. They

1444
01:10:32.039 --> 01:10:36.199
<v Speaker 8>impeached him money on nonsense. There was the right, there

1445
01:10:36.239 --> 01:10:40.520
<v Speaker 8>a blueprint. The monuments caused what I saw in Forbes magazine.

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01:10:40.840 --> 01:10:43.920
<v Speaker 8>Trump made one hundred and sixty million dollars with his

1447
01:10:44.079 --> 01:10:46.840
<v Speaker 8>business deals member Jimmy Carter. He had to sell his

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01:10:47.000 --> 01:10:50.079
<v Speaker 8>peanut farm and put on the assets in a blind

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01:10:50.079 --> 01:10:52.640
<v Speaker 8>trust so he didn't show there was any conflict of interests.

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01:10:53.039 --> 01:10:56.039
<v Speaker 8>Have some moral integrity, Quinton sending it just because he's

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01:10:56.039 --> 01:10:59.119
<v Speaker 8>on your side. He's just as bad as everybody's been

1452
01:10:59.159 --> 01:11:07.279
<v Speaker 8>in office and the Democrats.

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01:11:06.359 --> 01:11:10.680
<v Speaker 5>That is, the Democrats often use the elected office to

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01:11:10.800 --> 01:11:16.880
<v Speaker 5>make their money, like Jimmy Carter, Bill Quintid and the rest.

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01:11:17.079 --> 01:11:18.680
<v Speaker 1>I'll tell you what, Name me a congressman.

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01:11:18.920 --> 01:11:21.119
<v Speaker 2>Name me a congressman who stayed in there any amount

1457
01:11:21.159 --> 01:11:23.479
<v Speaker 2>of time that didn't come out with a fortune. Democrat

1458
01:11:23.560 --> 01:11:27.880
<v Speaker 2>or Republican. Name me one go ahead, one.

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01:11:28.840 --> 01:11:33.680
<v Speaker 5>Okay, office with half as much money as he went

1460
01:11:33.720 --> 01:11:34.079
<v Speaker 5>in with.

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01:11:34.199 --> 01:11:38.720
<v Speaker 9>Who Donald John Trump?

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01:11:39.039 --> 01:11:43.239
<v Speaker 2>No, not a congressman. Not a congressman, disqualified congressman. I

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01:11:43.279 --> 01:11:46.840
<v Speaker 2>asked you, I asked you for a congressman. Can Trump

1464
01:11:46.920 --> 01:11:49.079
<v Speaker 2>is not a congressman? Give me a congressman.

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01:11:51.520 --> 01:11:55.560
<v Speaker 13>Okay, left office moorer than when he entered it.

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01:11:56.159 --> 01:12:03.319
<v Speaker 8>Congressman, Gee, let's see, that's hard to say.

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01:12:05.760 --> 01:12:06.640
<v Speaker 9>I have no idea.

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01:12:06.920 --> 01:12:08.119
<v Speaker 6>I'll give it cred.

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01:12:09.439 --> 01:12:11.199
<v Speaker 1>There you go. You won't find one.

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01:12:12.760 --> 01:12:17.520
<v Speaker 5>Why would you have to exactly lose money to join coundress?

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01:12:18.239 --> 01:12:20.840
<v Speaker 2>Because I mean you're only making a hundred some thousand

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01:12:20.920 --> 01:12:21.760
<v Speaker 2>dollars a year.

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01:12:23.760 --> 01:12:27.000
<v Speaker 5>Got less money often mm hmm.

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01:12:28.079 --> 01:12:28.279
<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:12:28.319 --> 01:12:30.399
<v Speaker 2>Somehow you go in with a salary at last and

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01:12:30.439 --> 01:12:31.640
<v Speaker 2>come out millionaires.

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01:12:31.840 --> 01:12:34.399
<v Speaker 1>That's beautiful. I don't know how that's done. I really

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01:12:34.399 --> 01:12:35.279
<v Speaker 1>want somebody to show me.

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01:12:35.279 --> 01:12:40.760
<v Speaker 13>That that the Republicans go in millionaires and come out

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01:12:40.840 --> 01:12:41.760
<v Speaker 13>going to prison.

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01:12:42.600 --> 01:12:46.720
<v Speaker 1>Who went to prison? Who see?

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01:12:46.800 --> 01:12:52.279
<v Speaker 5>I don't know for how swip tom delay or some

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01:12:52.479 --> 01:12:53.039
<v Speaker 5>such thing.

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01:12:53.239 --> 01:12:57.439
<v Speaker 13>They all go to jail because every time Republicans make

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01:12:57.520 --> 01:13:02.359
<v Speaker 13>any headway, they get crucified by the Marxist press and

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01:13:02.560 --> 01:13:06.560
<v Speaker 13>not an alternative Marxist press. What's the point of having

1487
01:13:06.560 --> 01:13:09.720
<v Speaker 13>an alternative press? And they say the exact same thing

1488
01:13:09.800 --> 01:13:11.079
<v Speaker 13>as the regular press.

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01:13:11.159 --> 01:13:13.680
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, you're right about that. There is no alternative press.

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01:13:14.479 --> 01:13:17.399
<v Speaker 2>There is no alternative press, and there's no Marxist liberal

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01:13:17.439 --> 01:13:20.079
<v Speaker 2>press left either. They're all on from side right, now,

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<v Speaker 2>where where's the Marxist liberal press at the moment? MSNBC

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<v Speaker 2>is that is that.

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<v Speaker 13>Your go to prison asparrasy because they were in league

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01:13:31.039 --> 01:13:33.960
<v Speaker 13>with the DNC the same as they were with Nixon,

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01:13:34.399 --> 01:13:37.960
<v Speaker 13>and all them papers are out. Now I'm about sick.

1497
01:13:37.760 --> 01:13:38.439
<v Speaker 2>Of this craft.

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<v Speaker 13>I want all political parties eradicated, but especially that Democrat Party.

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01:13:45.760 --> 01:13:48.680
<v Speaker 13>All they do is try to destroy this country over

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01:13:48.760 --> 01:13:53.079
<v Speaker 13>and over again since their god forsaken existence.

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01:13:53.319 --> 01:13:55.479
<v Speaker 1>And until we start to be founded.

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01:13:55.199 --> 01:14:01.760
<v Speaker 13>By and burn not Jackson taxons, by the economy by

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01:14:01.840 --> 01:14:07.439
<v Speaker 13>eliminating the bank. There's your origin story for the Democrat Party.

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01:14:08.079 --> 01:14:14.039
<v Speaker 1>Ah Jackson? Nice? Okay, fair enough.

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01:14:14.439 --> 01:14:18.720
<v Speaker 2>Anyways, until certain people start dying off, and until the

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01:14:18.760 --> 01:14:22.560
<v Speaker 2>profiteers are stopped here, we're just gonna have this fun

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01:14:22.640 --> 01:14:25.359
<v Speaker 2>for a while. You're gonna back the profiteers you like,

1508
01:14:25.760 --> 01:14:26.520
<v Speaker 2>and it's all good.

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01:14:27.399 --> 01:14:27.880
<v Speaker 1>Tell you what.

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01:14:27.920 --> 01:14:29.920
<v Speaker 2>We're gonna take a little break because we haven't taken

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01:14:29.960 --> 01:14:31.600
<v Speaker 2>them on yet. We've been at it for a little bit.

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01:14:31.640 --> 01:14:33.359
<v Speaker 2>I haven't even looked at the chat room. I got

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01:14:33.399 --> 01:14:35.479
<v Speaker 2>somebody asking to join by a Skype. I got a

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01:14:35.520 --> 01:14:38.079
<v Speaker 2>few other things going on, but uh, I'm gonna put

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01:14:38.119 --> 01:14:40.359
<v Speaker 2>you guys on hold and we'll just take a little

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01:14:40.359 --> 01:14:44.399
<v Speaker 2>break and come back. Oops, that was not what I

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01:14:44.439 --> 01:14:46.880
<v Speaker 2>meant to hit. Hold on, hold on, there we go.

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01:14:47.560 --> 01:14:51.159
<v Speaker 2>That's unmuted. All right, let's see though I got everybody up.

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01:14:51.239 --> 01:14:53.600
<v Speaker 2>I think Jimmy James hung up on me. Anyway, Gonna

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01:14:53.640 --> 01:14:55.680
<v Speaker 2>take that break and if Jimmy wants to call back in,

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01:14:55.760 --> 01:14:57.479
<v Speaker 2>you can do that. And if not, I'll add somebody

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01:14:57.479 --> 01:15:00.119
<v Speaker 2>by a skype. We'll do some other things and to.

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01:15:00.119 --> 01:15:11.079
<v Speaker 7>See where we go.

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01:15:11.199 --> 01:15:14.520
<v Speaker 3>Ahead, call it the truth about the JFA assassination.

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01:15:14.760 --> 01:15:15.800
<v Speaker 1>Right, Well, what do you want to know.

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01:15:15.840 --> 01:15:19.279
<v Speaker 15>Any Baker's wild claim Oswald girlfriends he knew Ruby and

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01:15:19.359 --> 01:15:20.760
<v Speaker 15>Barry answer weapons?

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01:15:20.800 --> 01:15:23.199
<v Speaker 2>Really, I imagine I could claim I have four wheels. It

1529
01:15:23.239 --> 01:15:24.279
<v Speaker 2>doesn't make me a wagon.

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01:15:24.359 --> 01:15:27.199
<v Speaker 15>But okaywal was on the building and I'm trying to

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01:15:27.199 --> 01:15:28.680
<v Speaker 15>prevent the murder of John Kennedy.

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01:15:28.720 --> 01:15:29.800
<v Speaker 3>Come on now, has a.

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01:15:29.680 --> 01:15:31.600
<v Speaker 14>Real effort on the DFA assassination.

1534
01:15:31.800 --> 01:15:32.640
<v Speaker 5>Bolaim.

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01:15:32.840 --> 01:15:36.880
<v Speaker 2>Go to Amazon dot com enter Judith Baker in her

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01:15:36.920 --> 01:15:39.800
<v Speaker 2>own words. You'll get the results for a digital copy

1537
01:15:39.800 --> 01:15:43.319
<v Speaker 2>of a book where Walt Brown utilizes her own words

1538
01:15:43.359 --> 01:15:46.239
<v Speaker 2>and the known evidence in the case to get at

1539
01:15:46.319 --> 01:15:48.279
<v Speaker 2>well a different perspective.

1540
01:15:48.359 --> 01:15:49.560
<v Speaker 1>Let's say. You can get.

1541
01:15:49.439 --> 01:15:53.119
<v Speaker 2>Judith Barry Baker in her own words from the author himself,

1542
01:15:53.239 --> 01:15:56.319
<v Speaker 2>signed if you request it by contacting doctor Brown at

1543
01:15:56.399 --> 01:16:00.479
<v Speaker 2>k I A s JFK at aol dot com. It's

1544
01:16:00.520 --> 01:16:03.960
<v Speaker 2>a fun book and it actually dissects the many, many

1545
01:16:04.000 --> 01:16:08.119
<v Speaker 2>fantastic claims Judith Barry Baker in her own words.

1546
01:16:08.960 --> 01:16:30.800
<v Speaker 16>Information we are hey yeah, hey, yeah, hey hey hey.

1547
01:16:34.119 --> 01:16:38.239
<v Speaker 17>In Denial The Secret Wars with Air Strikes and Tanks

1548
01:16:38.680 --> 01:16:43.000
<v Speaker 17>by Larry Hancock. Secret wars became a staple of US

1549
01:16:43.039 --> 01:16:47.119
<v Speaker 17>covert operations and are still happening today. Marry Hancock's book

1550
01:16:47.199 --> 01:16:50.560
<v Speaker 17>In Denial rips the cover off many of them, using

1551
01:16:50.640 --> 01:16:51.239
<v Speaker 17>new files.

1552
01:16:51.279 --> 01:16:53.680
<v Speaker 18>It exposes things about the Bay of Pigs that no

1553
01:16:53.720 --> 01:16:56.760
<v Speaker 18>one has ever written about before. It shows why it

1554
01:16:56.800 --> 01:16:59.640
<v Speaker 18>really failed and why the United States did not earn

1555
01:16:59.720 --> 01:17:03.079
<v Speaker 18>from It also shows why other countries today are doing

1556
01:17:03.279 --> 01:17:06.560
<v Speaker 18>secret operations with more success. This is the book that

1557
01:17:06.640 --> 01:17:11.039
<v Speaker 18>puts what some want to deny into the light. In Denial,

1558
01:17:11.399 --> 01:17:16.720
<v Speaker 18>Secret Wars with Air Strikes and Tanks Larry Hancock. For

1559
01:17:16.800 --> 01:17:20.520
<v Speaker 18>more information, go to Larry hyphen Handcock dot com. Pick

1560
01:17:20.600 --> 01:17:21.680
<v Speaker 18>up your copy of In.

1561
01:17:21.720 --> 01:17:25.640
<v Speaker 2>Denial at Amazon dot com in digital or physical forms.

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01:17:43.960 --> 01:17:44.199
<v Speaker 7>It on.

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01:17:52.039 --> 01:18:04.279
<v Speaker 19>Now about the farest one, what fall for the smallst

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01:18:04.279 --> 01:18:08.720
<v Speaker 19>struct in sex and three stricts a lot regulate the

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01:18:08.760 --> 01:18:10.000
<v Speaker 19>latest not.

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01:18:10.479 --> 01:18:12.359
<v Speaker 7>I've never been se.

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01:19:04.319 --> 01:19:10.439
<v Speaker 6>Hel hell, hell, hell.

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01:19:13.079 --> 01:19:14.000
<v Speaker 7>Humanity with.

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01:19:15.760 --> 01:19:23.880
<v Speaker 1>I f company.

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<v Speaker 20>No, no, hell, hell oh nuclear holocaust.

1571
01:19:41.479 --> 01:19:42.640
<v Speaker 21>You know what uranium is right?

1572
01:19:43.079 --> 01:19:46.039
<v Speaker 20>Think of nuclear weapons and other things like lots of

1573
01:19:47.000 --> 01:19:50.720
<v Speaker 20>uranium is right. Bad things things have done with uranium,

1574
01:19:50.920 --> 01:19:54.720
<v Speaker 20>leading some bad things. Nuclear holocaust. You know what uranium

1575
01:19:54.800 --> 01:19:57.920
<v Speaker 20>is right, be uclear holocaust.

1576
01:19:57.720 --> 01:19:58.800
<v Speaker 1>Nuclear holocaust.

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01:19:59.079 --> 01:20:00.239
<v Speaker 14>You know what ranium is right?

1578
01:20:00.640 --> 01:20:01.760
<v Speaker 6>Just think called nuclear.

1579
01:20:01.520 --> 01:20:03.720
<v Speaker 20>Weapons and other things like gods of.

1580
01:20:04.600 --> 01:20:05.319
<v Speaker 7>Uranium is right.

1581
01:20:05.600 --> 01:20:09.640
<v Speaker 20>Bad things have done with uraniments leading some bad things

1582
01:20:10.039 --> 01:20:17.880
<v Speaker 20>Nuclear Holocaust, Nuclear Holocaust, Nuclear holocaust, nuclear holocaust, nuclear.

1583
01:20:17.520 --> 01:21:41.319
<v Speaker 15>Holom revelation through conversation, Let her know, let her know,

1584
01:21:44.079 --> 01:21:44.560
<v Speaker 15>let know.

1585
01:21:45.319 --> 01:21:49.880
<v Speaker 1>Got to let them know. I'm bringing all shot. Let

1586
01:21:50.039 --> 01:21:54.960
<v Speaker 1>the car rocks and blight at the drag show. I'm

1587
01:21:55.039 --> 01:21:56.359
<v Speaker 1>bringing all shot.

1588
01:21:56.399 --> 01:21:59.880
<v Speaker 22>Like care, rocks and blight at the drag show.

1589
01:22:00.600 --> 01:22:00.920
<v Speaker 7>World.

1590
01:22:01.399 --> 01:22:04.520
<v Speaker 21>The more we just met that the world's worst professional

1591
01:22:04.680 --> 01:22:08.239
<v Speaker 21>proflocka tour hit them like it's two thousand something and

1592
01:22:08.399 --> 01:22:12.359
<v Speaker 21>Becket's back on tour. You never really wanted me anyway.

1593
01:22:12.800 --> 01:22:16.760
<v Speaker 21>Alcohol turns me into your enemies. I'm go seventy sad

1594
01:22:16.840 --> 01:22:19.960
<v Speaker 21>with some annessy. I used to think that bottle was

1595
01:22:20.039 --> 01:22:23.000
<v Speaker 21>the remedy, picked it up once or twice after I

1596
01:22:23.119 --> 01:22:24.760
<v Speaker 21>let it go, but finally.

1597
01:22:24.560 --> 01:22:25.439
<v Speaker 1>Had to let it be.

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01:22:26.039 --> 01:22:28.439
<v Speaker 22>I used to roll over the five bitch. She would

1599
01:22:28.479 --> 01:22:32.640
<v Speaker 22>give me a lett tip for some literacy. I mean literally,

1600
01:22:33.479 --> 01:22:42.560
<v Speaker 22>I figure I'm the letter. We all want chances, weeks,

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01:22:42.640 --> 01:22:44.600
<v Speaker 22>excepparate chances.

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01:22:44.199 --> 01:22:45.439
<v Speaker 7>To learn the letter.

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01:22:45.640 --> 01:22:48.399
<v Speaker 1>Though we learn to let it go.

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01:22:50.439 --> 01:22:52.159
<v Speaker 9>Oh, it take trouble.

1605
01:23:06.960 --> 01:23:09.680
<v Speaker 1>I think it's okay to have a couple of heroes.

1606
01:23:10.359 --> 01:23:14.600
<v Speaker 1>It's okay fair flaws. I won't have stayed sober without Sam,

1607
01:23:14.680 --> 01:23:18.000
<v Speaker 1>Tripp and Zero. I'm talking to Chris Graves on the pod.

1608
01:23:18.399 --> 01:23:19.079
<v Speaker 3>I'm not blady.

1609
01:23:19.079 --> 01:23:22.319
<v Speaker 1>He's talking to Charlie Robinson on the pods. The people

1610
01:23:22.479 --> 01:23:26.680
<v Speaker 1>he influence influence me where you Chuck o'chelly. Sorry, I

1611
01:23:26.800 --> 01:23:29.199
<v Speaker 1>haven't done it yet. I'm gonna give you those beats.

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01:23:29.560 --> 01:23:33.000
<v Speaker 1>But we the people's influence like drops of water in

1613
01:23:33.119 --> 01:23:33.520
<v Speaker 1>the sea.

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01:23:33.840 --> 01:23:36.720
<v Speaker 21>And it's sad and so plain to seed that blatant

1615
01:23:36.840 --> 01:23:38.479
<v Speaker 21>lee the powers that beat.

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01:23:38.600 --> 01:23:42.680
<v Speaker 22>It's taken corruption to an incompatibility with regavity.

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01:23:43.039 --> 01:23:46.279
<v Speaker 1>I got no problem with the conspiracy incoming in industry.

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01:23:46.600 --> 01:23:48.079
<v Speaker 1>As long as we stay.

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01:23:47.920 --> 01:23:50.720
<v Speaker 3>Hard on fact, it's bred no fallacy, go.

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01:23:50.920 --> 01:23:54.880
<v Speaker 22>Forth with no malice, casually, ghosts produced for years stacking

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01:23:55.000 --> 01:23:57.439
<v Speaker 22>up that wise Wolf Gold, ain't you average?

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01:23:57.600 --> 01:24:00.520
<v Speaker 1>G I'm a bastard with no mask? What the met

1623
01:24:00.600 --> 01:24:03.199
<v Speaker 1>that had had one long before the roners? So don't

1624
01:24:03.239 --> 01:24:05.119
<v Speaker 1>get mad at me? Do you like history?

1625
01:24:05.439 --> 01:24:08.960
<v Speaker 11>Real history that you were never taught in schools? Why

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01:24:09.319 --> 01:24:13.640
<v Speaker 11>the Vietnam War Nuclear Bombs in nation Building in Southeast

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01:24:13.720 --> 01:24:18.239
<v Speaker 11>Asia by author Mike Swanson, with new documentation never seen

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01:24:18.359 --> 01:24:21.600
<v Speaker 11>before that'll open your eyes to events that led up

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01:24:21.640 --> 01:24:25.760
<v Speaker 11>to this. Why the Vietnam War Nuclear Bombs in nation

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01:24:26.039 --> 01:24:31.319
<v Speaker 11>Building in Southeast Asia nineteen forty five through nineteen sixty one.

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<v Speaker 11>Get your copy today at Amazon dot com. Why the

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<v Speaker 11>Vietnam War by author Mike Swanson, Oh Chili dot com.

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<v Speaker 1>All right, so we're last thirty four minutes here.

1634
01:25:01.399 --> 01:25:03.760
<v Speaker 2>I ended up in a deep discussion with be Pete

1635
01:25:03.800 --> 01:25:06.600
<v Speaker 2>on the break instead of instead of getting everybody, but

1636
01:25:06.600 --> 01:25:08.399
<v Speaker 2>I'm gonna get to everybody who's waiting to get on

1637
01:25:08.840 --> 01:25:09.199
<v Speaker 2>the show.

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01:25:09.880 --> 01:25:10.000
<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And if you're calling in three one nine, five, two seven,

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01:25:12.760 --> 01:25:15.159
<v Speaker 1>five zero one six if you call in there, I'll

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01:25:15.199 --> 01:25:15.560
<v Speaker 1>get you in.

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01:25:16.159 --> 01:25:16.279
<v Speaker 7>Uh.

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01:25:16.479 --> 01:25:18.920
<v Speaker 2>Also, I got a Skype caller wanting to join, so

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01:25:19.079 --> 01:25:21.560
<v Speaker 2>I'll put him on, I guess, and uh, we'll hear

1645
01:25:21.600 --> 01:25:24.880
<v Speaker 2>from who we hear from anyway, be pete, what.

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01:25:24.960 --> 01:25:25.600
<v Speaker 1>Do you got to say?

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01:25:25.720 --> 01:25:25.840
<v Speaker 15>Uh?

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01:25:26.079 --> 01:25:28.000
<v Speaker 2>As we go a little further here, and I'm gonna,

1649
01:25:28.199 --> 01:25:29.960
<v Speaker 2>like I said, grab people up and get him on.

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01:25:31.520 --> 01:25:34.359
<v Speaker 3>Well, Jimmy, did Jimmy come back? Did he call back in?

1651
01:25:34.800 --> 01:25:38.600
<v Speaker 1>No, Jimmy hasn't called back in yet. But I think

1652
01:25:38.640 --> 01:25:40.199
<v Speaker 1>he's just pissed at me. But that's all right.

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01:25:41.600 --> 01:25:44.159
<v Speaker 3>Hey, have you noticed his phone has been better recently?

1654
01:25:44.520 --> 01:25:49.920
<v Speaker 2>Yes, a lot better. I don't know why, but somehow, Yeah,

1655
01:25:50.000 --> 01:25:51.960
<v Speaker 2>his phone equality is improved.

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01:25:51.640 --> 01:25:52.000
<v Speaker 1>By a lot.

1657
01:25:54.000 --> 01:25:55.880
<v Speaker 3>I don't know, because they took the tap of it.

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01:25:56.920 --> 01:26:03.520
<v Speaker 1>Ah something, you know. Let's see you participants, right.

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01:26:05.640 --> 01:26:08.560
<v Speaker 4>I'm glad you're not an insurance adjuster in southern California

1660
01:26:08.640 --> 01:26:08.920
<v Speaker 4>right now.

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01:26:10.359 --> 01:26:11.960
<v Speaker 1>That'd be busy. I'll tell you that much.

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01:26:12.680 --> 01:26:15.680
<v Speaker 2>But then again, yeah, I believe some people die and

1663
01:26:15.800 --> 01:26:18.560
<v Speaker 2>some people forget they had insurance, right, so let's see.

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01:26:20.239 --> 01:26:22.760
<v Speaker 3>Well, it's big hassle out there. I read an article

1665
01:26:22.800 --> 01:26:23.239
<v Speaker 3>the other day.

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01:26:23.279 --> 01:26:26.000
<v Speaker 4>People were wondering why state farm cancers seventy percent of

1667
01:26:26.079 --> 01:26:29.279
<v Speaker 4>the policies they had in the palace Age area, and

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01:26:29.359 --> 01:26:31.359
<v Speaker 4>it was because they wanted to raise premiums in the

1669
01:26:31.399 --> 01:26:33.439
<v Speaker 4>state wouldn't let them, so they said, okay, fine, which

1670
01:26:33.439 --> 01:26:34.560
<v Speaker 4>is drop the insurance.

1671
01:26:36.239 --> 01:26:38.600
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, well that goes on too a lot of times.

1672
01:26:38.640 --> 01:26:40.359
<v Speaker 2>When it's you know, time to pay. Then what are

1673
01:26:40.359 --> 01:26:42.760
<v Speaker 2>the insurance companies do? Woops, we're bankrupt.

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01:26:44.199 --> 01:26:46.920
<v Speaker 3>Well makes you well, they're going to go bankrupt on

1675
01:26:47.039 --> 01:26:50.520
<v Speaker 3>this one. Yeah, there's going to be several companies go bankrupt.

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01:26:50.560 --> 01:26:53.439
<v Speaker 4>The state's going to go bankrupt on their last ditch

1677
01:26:53.520 --> 01:26:57.199
<v Speaker 4>effort to provide insurance for people that lost their policies

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01:26:57.319 --> 01:27:01.439
<v Speaker 4>because of state policies they made the insurance companies decide

1679
01:27:01.479 --> 01:27:02.680
<v Speaker 4>to cut coverage.

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01:27:03.279 --> 01:27:04.159
<v Speaker 3>The vicious circle.

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01:27:04.560 --> 01:27:07.439
<v Speaker 4>I'm just wondering, if you know people are going to

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01:27:07.479 --> 01:27:09.800
<v Speaker 4>start waking up in the state of California.

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01:27:10.840 --> 01:27:12.720
<v Speaker 1>Well, it would be good if they did something about it.

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01:27:12.760 --> 01:27:14.439
<v Speaker 2>I'm having a little trouble with the skype, but I'm

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01:27:14.479 --> 01:27:17.399
<v Speaker 2>working on It's still to grab somebody in here, and

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01:27:17.640 --> 01:27:19.600
<v Speaker 2>we do have more than one caller on the line.

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01:27:19.600 --> 01:27:21.399
<v Speaker 2>I know Danny's waiting. I'm gonna bring him back in

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01:27:21.600 --> 01:27:24.439
<v Speaker 2>as soon as I can figure the Skype issue out.

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01:27:25.039 --> 01:27:27.960
<v Speaker 2>And you know, look, there's more going on than the

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01:27:28.000 --> 01:27:31.039
<v Speaker 2>fires right now though. And I find it interesting that

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01:27:31.119 --> 01:27:33.159
<v Speaker 2>even c SPAN has turned over one of their channels

1692
01:27:33.239 --> 01:27:38.399
<v Speaker 2>like all Trump all day. So that's interesting. Uh, you

1693
01:27:38.439 --> 01:27:40.520
<v Speaker 2>know the arrangement with c SPAN, like what they're supposed

1694
01:27:40.520 --> 01:27:46.039
<v Speaker 2>to do and everything, right, Well, you know they're supposed

1695
01:27:46.039 --> 01:27:48.640
<v Speaker 2>to be this this general sort of a public service

1696
01:27:48.720 --> 01:27:50.880
<v Speaker 2>out there that that's you know, it gets carried by

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01:27:50.920 --> 01:27:54.119
<v Speaker 2>cable for a minimal cost and satellite companies always picking up.

1698
01:27:54.119 --> 01:27:55.920
<v Speaker 2>That's why you got sea Span on everything.

1699
01:27:56.600 --> 01:28:03.359
<v Speaker 3>You know. Well, yeah, but I mean what I mean,

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01:28:03.399 --> 01:28:04.720
<v Speaker 3>what's been going on with c SPAN?

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01:28:05.600 --> 01:28:07.840
<v Speaker 2>Oh well, they're running these like twenty four to seven

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01:28:07.840 --> 01:28:10.199
<v Speaker 2>Trump marathons of like, you know, all of his candidates

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01:28:10.279 --> 01:28:13.159
<v Speaker 2>in their own words, and you know, anything he says

1704
01:28:13.239 --> 01:28:15.119
<v Speaker 2>they're covering, you know, even though he's not.

1705
01:28:15.119 --> 01:28:15.760
<v Speaker 1>In office yet.

1706
01:28:17.119 --> 01:28:18.800
<v Speaker 3>Well, Seaspan's always done.

1707
01:28:18.640 --> 01:28:21.239
<v Speaker 7>That though not like this, No, no, no, no, no no.

1708
01:28:21.680 --> 01:28:25.439
<v Speaker 2>They never ever ran everybody's stupid nominees for every freaking

1709
01:28:25.520 --> 01:28:26.079
<v Speaker 2>cabinet off.

1710
01:28:26.159 --> 01:28:29.439
<v Speaker 1>But come on, not everybody in their own words making speeches.

1711
01:28:29.640 --> 01:28:34.000
<v Speaker 4>Yes, yet they SPAN has Now you know your mainstream

1712
01:28:34.039 --> 01:28:35.720
<v Speaker 4>media is not going to do that now.

1713
01:28:35.800 --> 01:28:37.560
<v Speaker 3>That is one thing that we have found.

1714
01:28:38.840 --> 01:28:40.880
<v Speaker 4>That's been in the past four years is the total

1715
01:28:41.000 --> 01:28:43.159
<v Speaker 4>breakdown of legacy media.

1716
01:28:43.399 --> 01:28:47.560
<v Speaker 2>Okay, I bet I'll bet anybody you cannot find every

1717
01:28:47.640 --> 01:28:50.600
<v Speaker 2>cabinet appointment of Biden's in the archive at se SPAN.

1718
01:28:51.279 --> 01:28:53.560
<v Speaker 2>I bet you, And I also bet you can't find

1719
01:28:53.600 --> 01:28:56.399
<v Speaker 2>every cabinet appointee of Trump's the last time in the

1720
01:28:56.600 --> 01:29:00.960
<v Speaker 2>archive or of Obama's in the archive. I guarantee it

1721
01:29:01.399 --> 01:29:04.680
<v Speaker 2>that I watched carefully for news on exactly that kind

1722
01:29:04.720 --> 01:29:07.560
<v Speaker 2>of thing during all three of those transitions. This has

1723
01:29:07.760 --> 01:29:11.359
<v Speaker 2>never been like it is right now on CSPAN two. Never,

1724
01:29:11.880 --> 01:29:15.000
<v Speaker 2>So no, it is not the same. You've got to

1725
01:29:15.000 --> 01:29:17.520
<v Speaker 2>take a look at how they're covering it. They're letting

1726
01:29:17.560 --> 01:29:19.880
<v Speaker 2>them basically film their own videos and put them up

1727
01:29:19.920 --> 01:29:26.159
<v Speaker 2>there as an argument to put them in. It's like

1728
01:29:26.239 --> 01:29:31.159
<v Speaker 2>court briefings for the plaintiff over there. Anyway, Chris, I'm

1729
01:29:31.199 --> 01:29:33.479
<v Speaker 2>trying to add you, and you know what, I'm getting

1730
01:29:33.520 --> 01:29:35.520
<v Speaker 2>negative results from trying to add you, So I don't

1731
01:29:35.560 --> 01:29:36.319
<v Speaker 2>know what to do there.

1732
01:29:36.439 --> 01:29:37.760
<v Speaker 1>I can't have you call in that way.

1733
01:29:37.840 --> 01:29:39.359
<v Speaker 2>You might as well use the phone if you can,

1734
01:29:39.960 --> 01:29:44.239
<v Speaker 2>because I can't seem to add you via Skype. So

1735
01:29:44.479 --> 01:29:48.159
<v Speaker 2>that's that, and we do have I'm gonna bring Danny

1736
01:29:48.199 --> 01:29:50.079
<v Speaker 2>back on shortly. But you know what, I got another

1737
01:29:50.119 --> 01:29:52.279
<v Speaker 2>wireless caller here. Maybe I'll start with that one and

1738
01:29:52.359 --> 01:29:57.479
<v Speaker 2>then I'll bring Danny in afterwards. So let's see who

1739
01:29:57.600 --> 01:29:59.039
<v Speaker 2>is this on the wireless call?

1740
01:30:02.800 --> 01:30:04.039
<v Speaker 1>It's Harlan. Who's this?

1741
01:30:05.319 --> 01:30:06.600
<v Speaker 6>This is who's got the frown?

1742
01:30:08.359 --> 01:30:08.640
<v Speaker 1>What's that?

1743
01:30:08.840 --> 01:30:09.479
<v Speaker 9>You know who it is?

1744
01:30:09.640 --> 01:30:10.239
<v Speaker 1>Corn Bread?

1745
01:30:11.520 --> 01:30:12.520
<v Speaker 23>I said, you know who it is?

1746
01:30:12.640 --> 01:30:17.279
<v Speaker 1>Corn Bread? II gotcha?

1747
01:30:17.319 --> 01:30:19.840
<v Speaker 2>I keep forgetting this eight six five men here, Yeah,

1748
01:30:19.920 --> 01:30:24.920
<v Speaker 2>I can hear you you there, Yeah, all right, go ahead,

1749
01:30:25.000 --> 01:30:25.439
<v Speaker 2>throw down.

1750
01:30:25.720 --> 01:30:25.920
<v Speaker 8>Yeah.

1751
01:30:25.920 --> 01:30:27.840
<v Speaker 23>I was just I was listening to you guys talking

1752
01:30:28.159 --> 01:30:30.560
<v Speaker 23>caring during the break. I'm gonna try to get this out.

1753
01:30:30.880 --> 01:30:34.039
<v Speaker 8>I don't know how much longer I have signal, but BP.

1754
01:30:33.960 --> 01:30:36.159
<v Speaker 23>Give me a good idea, you know, just popped in

1755
01:30:36.279 --> 01:30:39.279
<v Speaker 23>my head. He's talking about, you know, indigenous people being

1756
01:30:39.359 --> 01:30:41.840
<v Speaker 23>taken advantage of just how how.

1757
01:30:41.760 --> 01:30:44.039
<v Speaker 3>Many generations digite.

1758
01:30:43.800 --> 01:30:46.000
<v Speaker 23>You have to be here in America to be to

1759
01:30:46.119 --> 01:30:49.840
<v Speaker 23>be Navy, to be indigenous Pete. I mean, I feel like,

1760
01:30:50.000 --> 01:30:52.319
<v Speaker 23>you know, the indigenous white cry.

1761
01:30:53.800 --> 01:30:54.039
<v Speaker 1>Uh oh.

1762
01:30:54.399 --> 01:30:56.560
<v Speaker 2>We might have lost Harlan's signal there. But b Pete,

1763
01:30:56.720 --> 01:30:59.079
<v Speaker 2>I don't remember you bringing up indigenous people in the break,

1764
01:30:59.359 --> 01:30:59.600
<v Speaker 2>did you?

1765
01:31:02.079 --> 01:31:05.119
<v Speaker 3>Yeah, when I made a comment about big oil conglomerates.

1766
01:31:05.159 --> 01:31:06.399
<v Speaker 1>Oh, big oil conglomerates.

1767
01:31:06.439 --> 01:31:11.520
<v Speaker 2>Okay, okay, yeah, well all right, Daniel, there he is.

1768
01:31:11.600 --> 01:31:13.760
<v Speaker 1>Harlan's back. Sorry Harlan, you were gone for a minute.

1769
01:31:13.880 --> 01:31:16.199
<v Speaker 6>Yeah, yeah, may repeat this.

1770
01:31:16.399 --> 01:31:19.920
<v Speaker 23>I mean, how long the how many generations you gotta

1771
01:31:19.920 --> 01:31:21.800
<v Speaker 23>be here before you can get in on this ind.

1772
01:31:22.000 --> 01:31:22.399
<v Speaker 3>Just get me.

1773
01:31:22.800 --> 01:31:24.800
<v Speaker 23>That is a good question, mate, That is a good

1774
01:31:24.880 --> 01:31:28.520
<v Speaker 23>questions for you know, native white trash get in on

1775
01:31:28.640 --> 01:31:30.159
<v Speaker 23>the grip somewhere another.

1776
01:31:31.680 --> 01:31:34.439
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, my grandfather came here, so I don't think I'm

1777
01:31:34.640 --> 01:31:35.159
<v Speaker 1>you know, good.

1778
01:31:36.800 --> 01:31:39.680
<v Speaker 4>The white part of your trashiness came from somewhere in Europe,

1779
01:31:39.760 --> 01:31:43.039
<v Speaker 4>so you have to I think it's one thirty second

1780
01:31:43.199 --> 01:31:47.760
<v Speaker 4>is the cutoff for most tribal affiliations for Native Americans.

1781
01:31:47.920 --> 01:31:50.359
<v Speaker 2>One thirty second. Wow, So that means you could have

1782
01:31:50.439 --> 01:31:54.279
<v Speaker 2>one relative like fifteen generations.

1783
01:31:54.960 --> 01:31:58.279
<v Speaker 3>Second you figure no, you figure through the first generation

1784
01:31:58.479 --> 01:32:00.439
<v Speaker 3>at the quarter, and then you know order of it

1785
01:32:00.760 --> 01:32:03.600
<v Speaker 3>is the sixteenth and then those thirty seconds, so like

1786
01:32:03.640 --> 01:32:05.640
<v Speaker 3>three generations away, four generations?

1787
01:32:05.720 --> 01:32:07.119
<v Speaker 1>Oh okay, Well, that's not so bad.

1788
01:32:09.159 --> 01:32:11.840
<v Speaker 3>Oh, and that's from those tribal affiliation.

1789
01:32:12.359 --> 01:32:14.720
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so tribal affiliation, you got to have what.

1790
01:32:14.880 --> 01:32:15.560
<v Speaker 7>Four back.

1791
01:32:17.439 --> 01:32:20.039
<v Speaker 3>Something like that. Yeah, for white trash us.

1792
01:32:23.640 --> 01:32:27.039
<v Speaker 4>There's no indigenous white people on this continent apparently.

1793
01:32:28.680 --> 01:32:29.319
<v Speaker 1>Okay, so.

1794
01:32:32.840 --> 01:32:36.680
<v Speaker 4>You know, but this way, yes, there are indigenous white

1795
01:32:36.720 --> 01:32:40.119
<v Speaker 4>people on this continent. Now, but before you hit the

1796
01:32:40.159 --> 01:32:43.720
<v Speaker 4>white trash come over from Europe and ruin the neighborhood.

1797
01:32:44.239 --> 01:32:48.239
<v Speaker 4>It was all Native Americans, and you know, they don't

1798
01:32:48.279 --> 01:32:53.680
<v Speaker 4>really qualify as white so European. So if you go

1799
01:32:53.880 --> 01:32:56.640
<v Speaker 4>back and look, all of the white trashionists over here

1800
01:32:56.760 --> 01:32:58.640
<v Speaker 4>can be traced back to somewhere in Europe.

1801
01:32:59.279 --> 01:33:01.560
<v Speaker 1>You know, these people with the genealogy are crazy?

1802
01:33:01.880 --> 01:33:02.600
<v Speaker 22>Well what about this?

1803
01:33:04.119 --> 01:33:05.680
<v Speaker 1>But go ahead, Well, I was just going.

1804
01:33:05.640 --> 01:33:08.159
<v Speaker 2>To say, these people with the genealogy thing are crazy. Anyway,

1805
01:33:08.199 --> 01:33:10.479
<v Speaker 2>they shift things every couple of years. I was in

1806
01:33:10.520 --> 01:33:12.600
<v Speaker 2>the middle of a discussion with a guy about genealogy,

1807
01:33:12.680 --> 01:33:15.079
<v Speaker 2>and I was talking to him about the right of return,

1808
01:33:15.279 --> 01:33:17.880
<v Speaker 2>right to different countries. People have different rights of return,

1809
01:33:18.600 --> 01:33:21.720
<v Speaker 2>okay and uh and and he was talking about, you know,

1810
01:33:21.840 --> 01:33:24.079
<v Speaker 2>the people where I live, basically in Georgia. He said,

1811
01:33:24.079 --> 01:33:26.439
<v Speaker 2>you know, at a certain point there you had the

1812
01:33:27.159 --> 01:33:30.359
<v Speaker 2>King of England basically sending nothing but criminals and mental

1813
01:33:30.399 --> 01:33:35.039
<v Speaker 2>patients to Georgia. And I'm like, I don't remember reading

1814
01:33:35.159 --> 01:33:38.760
<v Speaker 2>that anywhere, but somehow he claims that that's exactly what

1815
01:33:38.920 --> 01:33:42.520
<v Speaker 2>ends up populating uh Georgia at a certain point. And

1816
01:33:42.760 --> 01:33:44.439
<v Speaker 2>it's a whole lot of them are Irish, by the way,

1817
01:33:45.000 --> 01:33:47.000
<v Speaker 2>So there's a whole lot of this Irish ancestry that

1818
01:33:47.079 --> 01:33:49.319
<v Speaker 2>got dropped off here while the King of England still

1819
01:33:49.319 --> 01:33:53.840
<v Speaker 2>controlled Georgia. And according to this guy, like I said,

1820
01:33:53.840 --> 01:33:55.479
<v Speaker 2>and I meanwhile, I was talking to him about the

1821
01:33:55.560 --> 01:33:58.359
<v Speaker 2>right of return to Italy because even though Italy wasn't

1822
01:33:58.399 --> 01:34:01.000
<v Speaker 2>a country, you know, as a certain point, there only

1823
01:34:01.159 --> 01:34:04.079
<v Speaker 2>just a freshly minted one. When my grandfather was born,

1824
01:34:05.199 --> 01:34:08.039
<v Speaker 2>he came over here. So but I still have a

1825
01:34:08.119 --> 01:34:11.760
<v Speaker 2>right of return as long as I can prove that heritage.

1826
01:34:13.119 --> 01:34:14.960
<v Speaker 2>And a lot of other people do that are here

1827
01:34:15.000 --> 01:34:16.880
<v Speaker 2>in America. You've got rights to return to a lot

1828
01:34:16.920 --> 01:34:20.920
<v Speaker 2>of different countries if you can prove your ancestry right.

1829
01:34:21.000 --> 01:34:23.680
<v Speaker 2>And you guys were talking about this indigenous thing, and yeah,

1830
01:34:23.720 --> 01:34:26.239
<v Speaker 2>that's for tribal affiliation, that's you can get a cut

1831
01:34:26.279 --> 01:34:29.079
<v Speaker 2>up a government check. Actually, if you could prove anything

1832
01:34:29.159 --> 01:34:32.199
<v Speaker 2>higher than a thirty second I think, right, is.

1833
01:34:32.239 --> 01:34:34.680
<v Speaker 4>That the color You got to be conne You have

1834
01:34:34.800 --> 01:34:36.680
<v Speaker 4>to be accepted by a tribe, you have to be

1835
01:34:36.800 --> 01:34:38.079
<v Speaker 4>considered a tribe member.

1836
01:34:38.399 --> 01:34:42.159
<v Speaker 1>Right. But nonetheless, there are people that are living in

1837
01:34:42.199 --> 01:34:43.880
<v Speaker 1>other parts of the country. They are getting checks.

1838
01:34:44.039 --> 01:34:46.359
<v Speaker 2>Because there was a guy that lived near me that

1839
01:34:46.600 --> 01:34:48.439
<v Speaker 2>was like, you know, had this He's like, oh, I'm

1840
01:34:48.479 --> 01:34:51.560
<v Speaker 2>Native America. What part because I don't see any of it.

1841
01:34:52.119 --> 01:34:54.439
<v Speaker 2>Guy looked like, you know, like he was from the

1842
01:34:54.520 --> 01:34:58.520
<v Speaker 2>nineteen seventies, white guy. But apparently you have enough.

1843
01:34:59.239 --> 01:35:02.039
<v Speaker 3>That's it off the reservation. Since he was like three,

1844
01:35:02.159 --> 01:35:03.079
<v Speaker 3>he still gets a cut.

1845
01:35:03.399 --> 01:35:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This guy said to me.

1846
01:35:05.560 --> 01:35:05.920
<v Speaker 3>Cherokee.

1847
01:35:06.199 --> 01:35:08.279
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, he was like a baby on the reservation at

1848
01:35:08.319 --> 01:35:10.319
<v Speaker 2>some point. But then you know, wound up out and

1849
01:35:10.760 --> 01:35:12.960
<v Speaker 2>just out and about for the next thirty years and

1850
01:35:13.039 --> 01:35:14.039
<v Speaker 2>then somehow ends up.

1851
01:35:13.960 --> 01:35:17.319
<v Speaker 3>With a chess guys except the Eastern man Cherokee. That's

1852
01:35:17.359 --> 01:35:20.600
<v Speaker 3>why he gets his check from the casino gets So

1853
01:35:20.720 --> 01:35:21.319
<v Speaker 3>that's what I'm saying.

1854
01:35:21.399 --> 01:35:23.239
<v Speaker 2>He winds up with a cut from some casino. I

1855
01:35:23.279 --> 01:35:25.279
<v Speaker 2>don't even know what tribe's from. But you know, but

1856
01:35:25.399 --> 01:35:27.680
<v Speaker 2>he looks like white Man tribe to me. I mean,

1857
01:35:28.079 --> 01:35:31.000
<v Speaker 2>he definitely does not look any Native American at all.

1858
01:35:31.680 --> 01:35:34.520
<v Speaker 2>But whatever, you know, I'm not gonna argue with blood tests.

1859
01:35:35.399 --> 01:35:39.479
<v Speaker 23>Hey jacket, that might have been big chief shitty, I said,

1860
01:35:39.560 --> 01:35:40.880
<v Speaker 23>with the no wifele tribe.

1861
01:35:40.960 --> 01:35:43.920
<v Speaker 1>You know from the trailer parks. He did live in

1862
01:35:43.960 --> 01:35:45.399
<v Speaker 1>a trailer park, carl And I'll give you that.

1863
01:35:46.920 --> 01:35:47.439
<v Speaker 3>Are you go?

1864
01:35:47.840 --> 01:35:48.279
<v Speaker 13>There you go?

1865
01:35:48.720 --> 01:35:51.600
<v Speaker 23>I mean, hell, everybody in the he's Tennis Layton, North Georgia,

1866
01:35:51.720 --> 01:35:56.159
<v Speaker 23>and you know Eastern in Czech in Southwest Virginia and Parks,

1867
01:35:56.239 --> 01:35:59.119
<v Speaker 23>North Carolina. Hell, all of you know park Cherokee or

1868
01:35:59.640 --> 01:36:02.920
<v Speaker 23>tart luncheon one you know, to hear tell it. And

1869
01:36:03.000 --> 01:36:05.279
<v Speaker 23>I've only saying that I've got a friend to start

1870
01:36:05.359 --> 01:36:08.000
<v Speaker 23>my luncheon. But there's very few of them you can

1871
01:36:08.079 --> 01:36:08.840
<v Speaker 23>actually believe.

1872
01:36:09.000 --> 01:36:15.239
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, missus owas part Cherokee apparently, so.

1873
01:36:16.840 --> 01:36:19.079
<v Speaker 6>I make no money, you know, I mean, there you go.

1874
01:36:19.680 --> 01:36:20.840
<v Speaker 1>See that was the one exception.

1875
01:36:21.600 --> 01:36:23.520
<v Speaker 23>Take your back, Yeah, I know, I gotta I gotta

1876
01:36:23.560 --> 01:36:25.119
<v Speaker 23>be careful back to New Jersey.

1877
01:36:25.560 --> 01:36:28.399
<v Speaker 2>Look, I gotta be careful because you know, here's the thing, right, uh,

1878
01:36:28.880 --> 01:36:30.880
<v Speaker 2>the one thing my father told me, is like everybody

1879
01:36:30.920 --> 01:36:32.840
<v Speaker 2>else in the world except the Native Americans are in

1880
01:36:32.880 --> 01:36:33.479
<v Speaker 2>your bloodstream.

1881
01:36:33.479 --> 01:36:34.920
<v Speaker 1>You know that. This is what he told me.

1882
01:36:35.000 --> 01:36:37.520
<v Speaker 2>It's like, the only people not in your bloodstream is

1883
01:36:37.600 --> 01:36:41.239
<v Speaker 2>those people, but everybody else is if you're Sicilian.

1884
01:36:42.119 --> 01:36:43.439
<v Speaker 1>And I said, okay, you know.

1885
01:36:43.479 --> 01:36:45.840
<v Speaker 6>And allegedly.

1886
01:36:46.720 --> 01:36:51.399
<v Speaker 23>I'm supposed to have, you know, Cherokee on one side

1887
01:36:52.039 --> 01:36:55.720
<v Speaker 23>of my family. But you know here again, I mean

1888
01:36:55.800 --> 01:36:58.399
<v Speaker 23>I always kind of felt ashamed to run around.

1889
01:36:58.239 --> 01:36:59.039
<v Speaker 9>You know, saying that.

1890
01:36:59.319 --> 01:37:01.680
<v Speaker 23>But you know wide as you know snow.

1891
01:37:03.039 --> 01:37:05.000
<v Speaker 1>So yeah, well you know where I used to hear

1892
01:37:05.079 --> 01:37:05.600
<v Speaker 1>that garlic.

1893
01:37:07.119 --> 01:37:09.279
<v Speaker 2>It's usually not white guys that are claiming that, right,

1894
01:37:09.600 --> 01:37:10.840
<v Speaker 2>But you know what used to be when I was

1895
01:37:10.880 --> 01:37:12.359
<v Speaker 2>a kid a lot is if you saw a black

1896
01:37:12.399 --> 01:37:15.239
<v Speaker 2>guy who had some straight hair, Like if his hair

1897
01:37:15.359 --> 01:37:17.479
<v Speaker 2>was straight and it wasn't you know, processed or nothing,

1898
01:37:17.520 --> 01:37:20.000
<v Speaker 2>it was just naturally kind of not so kinky, it

1899
01:37:20.039 --> 01:37:23.000
<v Speaker 2>would always be he's part Indian. Yeah, everybody would say

1900
01:37:23.000 --> 01:37:24.560
<v Speaker 2>he's part Indian. I mean that's what they called him,

1901
01:37:24.760 --> 01:37:27.079
<v Speaker 2>you know, Native American now, but Indian is what we

1902
01:37:27.199 --> 01:37:29.760
<v Speaker 2>used to call them, right, So yeah, he's part Indian.

1903
01:37:33.159 --> 01:37:33.359
<v Speaker 7>Yeah.

1904
01:37:33.920 --> 01:37:36.399
<v Speaker 23>The graded eye word, boy, I mean, it's worse than

1905
01:37:36.479 --> 01:37:39.159
<v Speaker 23>the bucking in word some circles, you know, Yes, I know,

1906
01:37:39.359 --> 01:37:41.760
<v Speaker 23>I man hell like cow them Indians. So the last

1907
01:37:41.840 --> 01:37:44.680
<v Speaker 23>ten and the base Clain's about the last ten years.

1908
01:37:45.680 --> 01:37:49.000
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I understand. Look the first twenty thirty years of

1909
01:37:49.039 --> 01:37:52.479
<v Speaker 2>my life, they were Indians. You know, it was cowboys

1910
01:37:52.520 --> 01:37:53.359
<v Speaker 2>and Indians.

1911
01:37:53.560 --> 01:37:58.159
<v Speaker 23>Right, Yeah, what cowboys and nineties it's cowboys and Indians.

1912
01:37:58.680 --> 01:38:01.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It was a native native nothing,

1913
01:38:01.479 --> 01:38:07.079
<v Speaker 1>it was just you know, Indian. So anyway, well you

1914
01:38:07.199 --> 01:38:09.000
<v Speaker 1>guys have a good week in.

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<v Speaker 23>I'm on to cut out of here before I leave

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<v Speaker 23>you Segon, let let Danny get back on and see

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<v Speaker 23>if you can't get get that scap Kyle around.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, I'll try again. I keep trying, but there's some

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<v Speaker 2>kind of weird thing going on with that guy Skype

1920
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<v Speaker 2>and you know him. But anyway, I'll let you go, Harlan,

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<v Speaker 2>we'll talk soon.

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<v Speaker 8>Oh.

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<v Speaker 2>Anyhow, let's see Danny. You're still hanging. Are you fall

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<v Speaker 2>asleep on us yet?

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<v Speaker 8>Oh? No, no, no, well you're on your break. I

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<v Speaker 8>went down and grabbed a beer and my wife had

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<v Speaker 8>reheated some OsO buco from the night before, so I

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<v Speaker 8>was chaling on that nice halftime at Ohio's your college

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01:38:48.520 --> 01:38:52.039
<v Speaker 8>football fan in Ohio State fourteen, Texas seven in the

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<v Speaker 8>college football playoffs.

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<v Speaker 1>So what's the line on that game? Anybody? Anybody know

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01:38:57.279 --> 01:38:59.319
<v Speaker 1>the line on that game? What's what? What's supposed to be?

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<v Speaker 8>You know, I'm not a gambler, so I never got

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01:39:04.319 --> 01:39:07.800
<v Speaker 8>into like the line on it. I did see because

1935
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<v Speaker 8>Notre Dame. I'm a big Notre Dame fan. They won,

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<v Speaker 8>so immediately I saw the line.

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<v Speaker 24>If if they play Ohio State next week, it's Ohio

1938
01:39:16.279 --> 01:39:20.600
<v Speaker 24>State by eight and Chexas by three. So I don't

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<v Speaker 24>I think Ohio State's pibly the favor would be my gas.

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<v Speaker 1>Just yeah, just taking a look at the game. Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>hey when is uh? No, we have a wait? The

1942
01:39:32.640 --> 01:39:36.680
<v Speaker 1>super Bowl already happened, right, No, people.

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01:39:37.039 --> 01:39:40.000
<v Speaker 8>Pody in February. They're just starting the playoffs.

1944
01:39:40.079 --> 01:39:42.479
<v Speaker 1>Oh, that's the playoffs start. You see how adam it

1945
01:39:42.479 --> 01:39:42.800
<v Speaker 1>I've been.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't even know what the hell's going on. I

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01:39:44.680 --> 01:39:47.840
<v Speaker 2>know they have some special Christmas Day games on Netflix

1948
01:39:47.960 --> 01:39:50.319
<v Speaker 2>or something, but I didn't know.

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I know they moved one of the playoff games

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01:39:55.000 --> 01:39:57.000
<v Speaker 8>that was going to be in La there, moving into

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<v Speaker 8>Arizona because of the fires down south, so makes sense, which, yeah,

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<v Speaker 8>so that I know that's going on. Yeah, I'm you know,

1953
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<v Speaker 8>one of the things I've lived long enough is the

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01:40:12.880 --> 01:40:17.000
<v Speaker 8>concentration of all the all the media, you know, you know,

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<v Speaker 8>ever since they did the the Telecommunications Act under the

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01:40:21.520 --> 01:40:24.319
<v Speaker 8>Clinton administration. I mean, you know, I remember it was

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<v Speaker 8>the very left saying, hey, you're going to lose independent

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<v Speaker 8>media and all these you know, because it's kind of regulated,

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01:40:30.600 --> 01:40:34.880
<v Speaker 8>and it's like, I think only like five six major,

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01:40:35.560 --> 01:40:38.600
<v Speaker 8>very wealthy companies on all the media so much. I

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01:40:38.680 --> 01:40:41.720
<v Speaker 8>don't think they're Marxist. I don't think they're Marxist. And

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<v Speaker 8>I and those that you know, I know, the right

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<v Speaker 8>lights always caller Marxist because I don't think anybody's ever

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<v Speaker 8>read Marx. I've read Marx twice, all three volumes, and

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<v Speaker 8>that didn't make me a Marxist. I don't believe in

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<v Speaker 8>the land, economy, parties.

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<v Speaker 3>Media, well, a lot of these media companies hire Marxists.

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01:41:05.760 --> 01:41:08.720
<v Speaker 2>See it's more about the mouths. It's more about the

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01:41:08.800 --> 01:41:10.159
<v Speaker 2>mouthpiece and the business.

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01:41:09.920 --> 01:41:13.119
<v Speaker 4>Plans capitalistic as inconvened. But they put a lot of

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01:41:13.279 --> 01:41:16.439
<v Speaker 4>Marxists in their chairs behind their computers.

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<v Speaker 1>Right, Look, you wouldn't call it Ted Turner a Marxist,

1973
01:41:19.239 --> 01:41:22.920
<v Speaker 1>but right, I Look, but.

1974
01:41:23.039 --> 01:41:26.439
<v Speaker 3>I called ninety percent of the staff at CNN Marxist.

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01:41:27.159 --> 01:41:28.199
<v Speaker 1>That's interesting there.

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<v Speaker 8>They're capitalists, CNN, CNN has supported thereby war. They're commercial driven,

1977
01:41:34.399 --> 01:41:37.960
<v Speaker 8>they're very wealthy, they're they're they're just this capitalists. They're

1978
01:41:38.039 --> 01:41:39.720
<v Speaker 8>just a different version of capitalists.

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<v Speaker 2>It's the business model versus the mouthpiece, Danny, That's what.

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01:41:42.800 --> 01:41:44.720
<v Speaker 2>It's the business model versus the mouthpiece.

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<v Speaker 1>That's all.

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<v Speaker 8>But how is it? But how is that Marxism? I mean,

1983
01:41:49.800 --> 01:41:54.479
<v Speaker 8>it's you know, I remember starting in the seventies, don't

1984
01:41:54.520 --> 01:41:57.600
<v Speaker 8>believe the liberal media that started under Nick and I

1985
01:41:57.640 --> 01:42:01.279
<v Speaker 8>remember that under the Nixon administration, and the big complaint

1986
01:42:01.520 --> 01:42:04.760
<v Speaker 8>was they didn't want anybody speak out against war. And

1987
01:42:05.000 --> 01:42:08.960
<v Speaker 8>CNN has always touted every war. They've always supported every war.

1988
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<v Speaker 8>Go back to the first go for that. I remember

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01:42:12.159 --> 01:42:14.880
<v Speaker 8>when CNN is on them always and they didn't like

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01:42:15.000 --> 01:42:18.800
<v Speaker 8>the civil rights movement. You know, they have problems with this,

1991
01:42:18.920 --> 01:42:22.159
<v Speaker 8>So they said, don't believe that the liberal media. They've

1992
01:42:22.239 --> 01:42:25.960
<v Speaker 8>always had a problem with it. You know, I get

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01:42:26.000 --> 01:42:29.760
<v Speaker 8>it if you if you don't agree with certain, you

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01:42:29.840 --> 01:42:34.920
<v Speaker 8>know media outlet, that's fine, but let's this, it's just

1995
01:42:35.039 --> 01:42:38.199
<v Speaker 8>kind of laziness to just call their Marxist. And I

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01:42:38.239 --> 01:42:42.000
<v Speaker 8>don't mean to insult to anybody, but you know, why

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01:42:42.039 --> 01:42:44.800
<v Speaker 8>don't we just discuss the issues and having awness debate

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<v Speaker 8>about it.

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<v Speaker 9>Does that make sense?

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<v Speaker 1>Well?

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah it does.

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<v Speaker 4>But if you listen to these people on CNN, if

2003
01:42:50.760 --> 01:42:55.159
<v Speaker 4>you listen to the people on the programs, forget, forget

2004
01:42:55.199 --> 01:42:58.119
<v Speaker 4>the business end of it, just the people that are

2005
01:42:58.199 --> 01:43:01.119
<v Speaker 4>there giving there because news is not news anymore.

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01:43:01.199 --> 01:43:03.880
<v Speaker 3>They'll report on a war, but now you have people

2007
01:43:04.399 --> 01:43:06.600
<v Speaker 3>that are giving you their opinion on the war and

2008
01:43:06.720 --> 01:43:09.520
<v Speaker 3>their opinion on this, and their opinion on that, and

2009
01:43:09.840 --> 01:43:13.279
<v Speaker 3>most of those mouthpieces their opinions, if they're not Marxist,

2010
01:43:13.319 --> 01:43:14.520
<v Speaker 3>they're flat out communists.

2011
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<v Speaker 1>So you haven't noticed a shift in the past six months.

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<v Speaker 8>Commony, Okay, okay, hold on the communists. It's different from

2013
01:43:22.239 --> 01:43:26.520
<v Speaker 8>a Marxism and communists once actually of a actual revolution

2014
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<v Speaker 8>and to bring in absolute socialism or or communism.

2015
01:43:31.960 --> 01:43:37.800
<v Speaker 3>Absolutely, that's what I say that a Marxist bull fledged communists.

2016
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<v Speaker 3>I know there's a difference between the two, and I different.

2017
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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, I'm I'm they're not even closed. And they're all capitalists.

2018
01:43:48.279 --> 01:43:51.520
<v Speaker 8>I mean, I've read Adam Smith's Wealth the Nations that you.

2019
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<v Speaker 6>Know, it's there.

2020
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<v Speaker 8>They're all in it for a profit. They get paid

2021
01:43:55.640 --> 01:43:58.319
<v Speaker 8>high salaries. And then the other thing too, The biggest

2022
01:43:58.359 --> 01:44:02.399
<v Speaker 8>criticism I have CNN is they have a really small viewership,

2023
01:44:02.840 --> 01:44:07.399
<v Speaker 8>you know, I mean there's a boarding the out pardon

2024
01:44:08.720 --> 01:44:09.399
<v Speaker 8>they do now.

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01:44:09.640 --> 01:44:10.960
<v Speaker 3>At one time they led the.

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<v Speaker 2>Market, yeah, but they were almost out of business in

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01:44:13.479 --> 01:44:17.079
<v Speaker 2>twenty fifteen. They were almost at a business in twenty fifteen,

2028
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<v Speaker 2>which is hilarious because they grew under Trump perfectly. Yeah,

2029
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<v Speaker 2>That's that's what they grew under because that content is

2030
01:44:30.319 --> 01:44:32.920
<v Speaker 2>what they thought would sell. Now, as we go into

2031
01:44:33.000 --> 01:44:35.920
<v Speaker 2>this new administration, you really should tune back in with

2032
01:44:36.039 --> 01:44:38.600
<v Speaker 2>an open mind, BEP, because I'm telling you now they're

2033
01:44:38.640 --> 01:44:42.920
<v Speaker 2>normalizing everything. There's no more it is complaining about him.

2034
01:44:43.399 --> 01:44:48.119
<v Speaker 2>That's gone gone, even the people that used to dedicate

2035
01:44:48.199 --> 01:44:50.199
<v Speaker 2>whole hours to it and everything else.

2036
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<v Speaker 1>I mean, you know, there's no Don Lemon there either.

2037
01:44:52.960 --> 01:44:53.720
<v Speaker 1>So remember that.

2038
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<v Speaker 2>But the other thing, because his whole thing was, you know,

2039
01:44:57.399 --> 01:44:59.920
<v Speaker 2>look one hour Anti Trump and one hour how racist

2040
01:45:00.119 --> 01:45:03.600
<v Speaker 2>is America? And that was his old show this is

2041
01:45:04.399 --> 01:45:07.920
<v Speaker 2>a whole different animal. It's hilarious. They're like very serious

2042
01:45:07.960 --> 01:45:09.840
<v Speaker 2>about well this is the serious talking.

2043
01:45:10.359 --> 01:45:14.039
<v Speaker 3>But you're talking about CNN. You still have MSNBC that's

2044
01:45:14.079 --> 01:45:17.239
<v Speaker 3>about to be sold out from NBC. Yep, they're about

2045
01:45:17.239 --> 01:45:17.920
<v Speaker 3>to get rid of it.

2046
01:45:18.000 --> 01:45:21.920
<v Speaker 4>I mean, you look at thes part of MSNBC, and

2047
01:45:22.039 --> 01:45:24.079
<v Speaker 4>you know why they lean the way that they do

2048
01:45:24.920 --> 01:45:27.079
<v Speaker 4>because of the money that Bill Gates first put up

2049
01:45:27.119 --> 01:45:27.960
<v Speaker 4>to get them going.

2050
01:45:28.479 --> 01:45:30.119
<v Speaker 3>But they're about to be sold yep.

2051
01:45:30.439 --> 01:45:33.520
<v Speaker 4>I mean it's you look at these individual outlets. Yes,

2052
01:45:33.600 --> 01:45:36.399
<v Speaker 4>there may be five major companies that control all of

2053
01:45:36.479 --> 01:45:40.920
<v Speaker 4>the media. Okay, that's fine, but what they're putting out

2054
01:45:40.960 --> 01:45:41.279
<v Speaker 4>there is.

2055
01:45:41.359 --> 01:45:45.319
<v Speaker 3>Changing because people are tired of listening to what they

2056
01:45:45.520 --> 01:45:49.159
<v Speaker 3>listened to for the past four years. How many news

2057
01:45:49.239 --> 01:45:51.319
<v Speaker 3>agencies back when.

2058
01:45:51.239 --> 01:45:55.920
<v Speaker 4>There were three major networks would have handled Joe Biden's

2059
01:45:56.039 --> 01:45:59.000
<v Speaker 4>mental situation the way it was covered up this time,

2060
01:46:00.000 --> 01:46:01.560
<v Speaker 4>all of a sudden, the media, well you know what

2061
01:46:02.119 --> 01:46:04.239
<v Speaker 4>it's you know, they noticed this a long time back.

2062
01:46:04.479 --> 01:46:06.920
<v Speaker 4>You people knew it a long time back, and you

2063
01:46:07.000 --> 01:46:09.520
<v Speaker 4>tipped it as hidden as much as you could. And

2064
01:46:09.680 --> 01:46:12.239
<v Speaker 4>anytime someone from the other sides came out and said,

2065
01:46:12.680 --> 01:46:17.079
<v Speaker 4>look at this evidence of Biden being completely mentally deficient.

2066
01:46:17.520 --> 01:46:20.159
<v Speaker 3>Oh that's a it's been an altered video. Well, they're

2067
01:46:20.199 --> 01:46:22.680
<v Speaker 3>taking this out of context. This that went on for

2068
01:46:22.800 --> 01:46:25.640
<v Speaker 3>four years and people finally said screw it and they

2069
01:46:25.720 --> 01:46:26.560
<v Speaker 3>stopped watching.

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01:46:27.199 --> 01:46:28.039
<v Speaker 1>You know, was going to lose.

2071
01:46:28.399 --> 01:46:30.279
<v Speaker 3>You see it changes as the result of that.

2072
01:46:30.479 --> 01:46:32.359
<v Speaker 2>Yeah, you know it's going to lose big during this though,

2073
01:46:32.640 --> 01:46:34.920
<v Speaker 2>is Fox News because they're no longer going to be

2074
01:46:35.000 --> 01:46:37.880
<v Speaker 2>the only outlet for the for the Republican out.

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<v Speaker 8>Do you you remember the RA you know, they they

2076
01:46:48.560 --> 01:46:51.520
<v Speaker 8>totally blacked out that war. And I remember as a kid,

2077
01:46:51.600 --> 01:46:53.840
<v Speaker 8>you could go to three networks and you saw the

2078
01:46:54.000 --> 01:46:57.079
<v Speaker 8>Vietnam War on TV. They're going to damn sure that

2079
01:46:57.159 --> 01:46:59.159
<v Speaker 8>you didn't work going to see that again.

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<v Speaker 1>Because they were with each other then, they were competing

2081
01:47:03.279 --> 01:47:03.760
<v Speaker 1>with each other.

2082
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<v Speaker 2>Look in this way they have become communists, and that

2083
01:47:08.199 --> 01:47:10.680
<v Speaker 2>is that they all have decided to just divide up

2084
01:47:10.720 --> 01:47:14.800
<v Speaker 2>the spoils. There is no longer competition. That's that's an

2085
01:47:14.840 --> 01:47:18.760
<v Speaker 2>illusion at this point. This is collusion as opposed to competition.

2086
01:47:19.359 --> 01:47:21.239
<v Speaker 2>When they were trying to scoop each other, when they

2087
01:47:21.279 --> 01:47:23.119
<v Speaker 2>were trying to you know, figure out look, we got

2088
01:47:23.279 --> 01:47:26.039
<v Speaker 2>we got the real deal here and everything else that

2089
01:47:26.239 --> 01:47:30.840
<v Speaker 2>pushed them to go against what was being dictated to them.

2090
01:47:31.600 --> 01:47:33.199
<v Speaker 2>And you know what, some of them wanted to fall

2091
01:47:33.279 --> 01:47:35.000
<v Speaker 2>in line. That's great if you want to just you know,

2092
01:47:35.279 --> 01:47:37.119
<v Speaker 2>you want to put the blinders on, you know where

2093
01:47:37.159 --> 01:47:38.920
<v Speaker 2>to go. You don't want to put the blinders on,

2094
01:47:39.239 --> 01:47:39.840
<v Speaker 2>you know where to go.

2095
01:47:40.720 --> 01:47:44.319
<v Speaker 4>So but now one of the FOSSA talking about media

2096
01:47:44.399 --> 01:47:47.039
<v Speaker 4>and they were talking about this TikTok case where it

2097
01:47:47.119 --> 01:47:50.600
<v Speaker 4>was heard in the Supreme today, and they.

2098
01:47:50.520 --> 01:47:53.359
<v Speaker 3>Were talking about, well, you know, Elon must should buy it.

2099
01:47:53.920 --> 01:47:56.600
<v Speaker 4>And they made a comment that, well, we can't have

2100
01:47:57.000 --> 01:48:03.319
<v Speaker 4>China owning a communication in this country because of you

2101
01:48:03.399 --> 01:48:06.279
<v Speaker 4>know the possibilities of this, and that we don't need

2102
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<v Speaker 4>a foreign actor owning.

2103
01:48:08.800 --> 01:48:11.600
<v Speaker 3>Something like that. And I thought, who the hell is

2104
01:48:11.720 --> 01:48:16.079
<v Speaker 3>Rupert Murdoch? He owned Fox? Yeah, he owns is it

2105
01:48:16.159 --> 01:48:17.199
<v Speaker 3>the New York Post?

2106
01:48:17.359 --> 01:48:19.279
<v Speaker 1>Look, he bought the New York Post? Hold on, he

2107
01:48:19.359 --> 01:48:20.279
<v Speaker 1>bought the New York Post.

2108
01:48:20.399 --> 01:48:23.199
<v Speaker 2>He put up Fox News and then he created a

2109
01:48:23.319 --> 01:48:26.600
<v Speaker 2>TV network out of independent stations, buying them up all

2110
01:48:26.640 --> 01:48:31.680
<v Speaker 2>across the country bps.

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<v Speaker 3>Major media pundits.

2112
01:48:31.439 --> 01:48:34.479
<v Speaker 4>Yeah, making a comment like we can't have a platform

2113
01:48:34.600 --> 01:48:36.840
<v Speaker 4>like that owned by and foreign entity. And I'm thinking,

2114
01:48:37.720 --> 01:48:41.319
<v Speaker 4>if it wasn't for Rupert Murdoch, you wouldn't have anything

2115
01:48:41.439 --> 01:48:42.439
<v Speaker 4>with the name Fox on.

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01:48:42.520 --> 01:48:43.560
<v Speaker 1>It right now, right.

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<v Speaker 3>You know, these people don't even listen to themselves. They're

2118
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<v Speaker 3>so stupid.

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<v Speaker 1>Listen.

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<v Speaker 2>I can't argue with you there. You want to complain

2121
01:48:51.239 --> 01:48:53.079
<v Speaker 2>about foreign ownership, you start there?

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<v Speaker 8>Yeah, yeah, good, yeah, I agree, Yeah, look at look

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<v Speaker 8>at the foreign I guess it depends on the foreign ownership.

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01:49:00.000 --> 01:49:03.880
<v Speaker 8>If you don't like that's it happened to Look what

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01:49:04.079 --> 01:49:06.960
<v Speaker 8>happened when they got rid of the fairness doctrine where

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01:49:06.960 --> 01:49:09.920
<v Speaker 8>it used to be, you know, talk radio. It's all

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01:49:10.319 --> 01:49:15.119
<v Speaker 8>the same parroting the same right wing narrative. I I

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<v Speaker 8>just couldn't stand it. Yeah, but no objectivity.

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<v Speaker 2>But the homogenous nature here is not a right wing conspiracy.

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01:49:24.039 --> 01:49:26.880
<v Speaker 2>The homogenous nature here is that you now have like

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01:49:27.000 --> 01:49:29.640
<v Speaker 2>two companies buying every damn radio station.

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<v Speaker 1>This is how I got knocked over in terrestrial radio.

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01:49:32.680 --> 01:49:34.800
<v Speaker 1>I was on like nineteen affiliates.

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<v Speaker 2>And the thing is they were all small, and they

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01:49:37.279 --> 01:49:39.600
<v Speaker 2>all got swept up during the same time period because

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<v Speaker 2>they do these massive sweep ups. And then iHeartRadio Clear

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01:49:43.039 --> 01:49:51.079
<v Speaker 2>Channel and one other owns everything everything. It's a complete monopoly.

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<v Speaker 2>And you know, I had this idea in my head

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01:49:53.359 --> 01:49:56.720
<v Speaker 2>that America was not about allowing monopolies to prevail.

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<v Speaker 1>But I guess so it's okay as long as you

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01:49:59.640 --> 01:50:01.880
<v Speaker 1>like them. Anyways, Jenny let me.

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<v Speaker 3>Yeah, people, they have gone out on their own.

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01:50:06.079 --> 01:50:10.800
<v Speaker 4>Green Glenn Greenwall, he left and went to another company,

2144
01:50:10.840 --> 01:50:13.560
<v Speaker 4>and then left that company, finally went on his own. Matteabi,

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01:50:13.680 --> 01:50:18.680
<v Speaker 4>he's going to sub stack these individual these truly independent

2146
01:50:18.760 --> 01:50:22.239
<v Speaker 4>journalists out there are going to these other places to

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01:50:22.319 --> 01:50:24.479
<v Speaker 4>put their product out there, and it's catching on.

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01:50:25.920 --> 01:50:29.399
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, well that's why Tucker Carlson's doing his own thing too. Anyways.

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01:50:29.439 --> 01:50:32.239
<v Speaker 1>And Bill O'Reilly, Bill O'Reilly's trying to make his way

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<v Speaker 1>with the news nation. Now. I got another wireless caller here.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm not sure who it is. Uh five A weight

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01:50:37.880 --> 01:50:38.840
<v Speaker 1>looks like area code.

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<v Speaker 6>Hi, am I on the ear?

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<v Speaker 1>You are?

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01:50:47.520 --> 01:50:51.039
<v Speaker 6>Does anyone think that Trump's going to pardon these January

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01:50:51.239 --> 01:50:57.039
<v Speaker 6>sixth people? I forgive me if anyone already answered this.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't think anybody talked about that right now? Yeah,

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01:51:01.000 --> 01:51:03.239
<v Speaker 2>I I I don't think anybody talked about that yet.

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<v Speaker 1>Be Pete, what do you think.

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<v Speaker 3>I think he's going to.

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01:51:06.880 --> 01:51:08.800
<v Speaker 1>Yeah, I think he'd.

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01:51:08.720 --> 01:51:12.399
<v Speaker 2>Better because if he doesn't, that's that that's gonna show

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01:51:12.439 --> 01:51:13.600
<v Speaker 2>a very very bad hand.

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<v Speaker 1>If he doesn't, I don't know if he's young good well,

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<v Speaker 1>I think he's.

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<v Speaker 4>I mean they say he said, you know, we need

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01:51:23.920 --> 01:51:25.680
<v Speaker 4>to go through it on an individual basis, and I

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<v Speaker 4>think that's what they're going to look at. I mean,

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01:51:27.239 --> 01:51:30.359
<v Speaker 4>guys that were actually assaulting cops in that. I don't

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<v Speaker 4>know if they'll be included, but the majority of them, yeah,

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01:51:32.680 --> 01:51:33.000
<v Speaker 4>are going.

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01:51:32.920 --> 01:51:33.439
<v Speaker 3>To get a pardon.

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<v Speaker 1>There you go. I don't know what to make of it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this is going to be an interesting experiment

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01:51:41.680 --> 01:51:48.119
<v Speaker 2>because you see no no consequences, no restraints on this guy.

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01:51:48.439 --> 01:51:50.159
<v Speaker 2>Now you're going to find out what he's really all about.

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<v Speaker 2>So I don't know if he's really going to do

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<v Speaker 2>that bother with it or not, or only do selective ones.

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know he'd be smart to wells.

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<v Speaker 6>Can I ask you one thing?

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, go ahead.

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<v Speaker 6>You may have already brought it up earlier in the program.

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<v Speaker 25>I'm only joining Mike in the last ten minutes, But

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01:52:08.720 --> 01:52:11.960
<v Speaker 25>how are you doing from your hospitals?

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01:52:12.000 --> 01:52:14.079
<v Speaker 6>Then if you don't mind me asking.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, it took me about a month to get back

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01:52:15.960 --> 01:52:19.399
<v Speaker 2>on the air even to sit up straight and begin

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01:52:19.520 --> 01:52:22.079
<v Speaker 2>to eat. Dropped about thirty pounds, as I mentioned at

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01:52:22.079 --> 01:52:25.159
<v Speaker 2>the beginning of the show, and I'm not in great shape,

2190
01:52:25.239 --> 01:52:28.359
<v Speaker 2>but I don't know what the hell hit me. Something

2191
01:52:28.479 --> 01:52:30.960
<v Speaker 2>just took me out for a little while there. So

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01:52:31.079 --> 01:52:33.119
<v Speaker 2>I've been off the air and unable to do a

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01:52:33.199 --> 01:52:37.359
<v Speaker 2>damn thing for weeks. But I'm trying to get back

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01:52:37.399 --> 01:52:38.800
<v Speaker 2>at it. That's what I'm doing right now.

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<v Speaker 1>And so this is the person.

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<v Speaker 6>I just want to say that I'm glad that you're

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01:52:43.680 --> 01:52:44.279
<v Speaker 6>back on the air.

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<v Speaker 2>Yeah, and I realize who you are, and I know

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01:52:47.960 --> 01:52:49.760
<v Speaker 2>that you were in bad shape too, And I don't

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01:52:49.760 --> 01:52:52.520
<v Speaker 2>know the details because I got everything second and third hand.

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<v Speaker 2>But this is Chris Graves obviously, guys, and you know,

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01:52:58.319 --> 01:53:00.880
<v Speaker 2>I don't know where things stand with you or anything else,

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01:53:02.159 --> 01:53:04.640
<v Speaker 2>you know, things that were not parted between you and

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01:53:05.319 --> 01:53:05.800
<v Speaker 2>the company.

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<v Speaker 6>But I almost died.

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01:53:08.560 --> 01:53:11.760
<v Speaker 25>I don't know what your situation was, but I'm just

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01:53:11.840 --> 01:53:15.520
<v Speaker 25>glad that we're both still kicking, if that means anything.

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<v Speaker 2>Well, honestly, I thought I was about to go myself too,

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<v Speaker 2>So yeah, I understand that you went through you know,

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01:53:22.239 --> 01:53:25.159
<v Speaker 2>you went through an accident. I went through a weird

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01:53:25.199 --> 01:53:27.079
<v Speaker 2>accident before I went to Dallas. I got hit by

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01:53:27.119 --> 01:53:29.439
<v Speaker 2>a guy on a bicycle. And I know that sounds stupid,

2213
01:53:30.039 --> 01:53:33.399
<v Speaker 2>but you know, a two hundred and something pound guy

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01:53:33.439 --> 01:53:36.399
<v Speaker 2>on a bicycle slam in India while you're walking down

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01:53:36.439 --> 01:53:39.680
<v Speaker 2>the road. Apparently I took some hits equal to an

2216
01:53:39.760 --> 01:53:43.520
<v Speaker 2>MBA anyway, but I kind of recovered from that, I thought,

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01:53:43.640 --> 01:53:45.439
<v Speaker 2>and then something took me down after I came back

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01:53:45.479 --> 01:53:45.960
<v Speaker 2>from Dallas.

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<v Speaker 1>So I don't know. I don't know, man, I have

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01:53:48.920 --> 01:53:50.560
<v Speaker 1>no idea where my health is going. I have no

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01:53:50.640 --> 01:53:53.479
<v Speaker 1>idea what hit me. But I at a certain point

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01:53:53.560 --> 01:53:56.880
<v Speaker 1>thought I might not make it. But but I'm still here.

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<v Speaker 6>Oh, I'm just glad that you're still with us.

2224
01:53:59.159 --> 01:54:01.479
<v Speaker 1>Well, you know, I'm glad you here it too.

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01:54:02.479 --> 01:54:05.119
<v Speaker 2>I don't know what you and I are gonna wind

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01:54:05.159 --> 01:54:06.920
<v Speaker 2>up having to talk about, but we're gonna obviously have

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01:54:07.000 --> 01:54:09.479
<v Speaker 2>to have a talk off here, okay at some point.

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<v Speaker 6>Well, I just want I just want.

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01:54:13.640 --> 01:54:16.840
<v Speaker 25>I want to know that Chuck Ochhilly, he's uh someone

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01:54:16.960 --> 01:54:20.439
<v Speaker 25>that's for free speech, and uh, I appreciate the fact

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01:54:20.439 --> 01:54:21.479
<v Speaker 25>that you're still with us.

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<v Speaker 1>Thank you, man, I appreciate that, and uh, I hope

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01:54:25.319 --> 01:54:27.479
<v Speaker 1>that you continue to recover. You still in the hospital.

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01:54:29.880 --> 01:54:32.359
<v Speaker 6>You they kicked me out on New Year's Eve, and

2235
01:54:32.960 --> 01:54:36.039
<v Speaker 6>that's a whole situation. I'm trying to get a lawyer

2236
01:54:36.199 --> 01:54:38.880
<v Speaker 6>for all that thang that that whole situation.

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01:54:39.560 --> 01:54:41.359
<v Speaker 1>Well, good, get what you can get.

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01:54:41.439 --> 01:54:44.239
<v Speaker 6>I don't I don't know if that's going to go anywhere.

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01:54:44.800 --> 01:54:47.760
<v Speaker 1>Well, do what you can. The system is not kind

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<v Speaker 1>to people like us, But do what you can. Man.

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<v Speaker 2>I I don't know a horrible thing. I don't know

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01:54:54.279 --> 01:54:57.399
<v Speaker 2>exactly what happened to you, but uh, we're we're almost

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01:54:57.439 --> 01:54:58.319
<v Speaker 2>out of time tonight.

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01:54:58.359 --> 01:55:00.880
<v Speaker 25>I hear the telephone, Paul, and I I rolled my

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01:55:01.000 --> 01:55:03.399
<v Speaker 25>car three or four times and I was kind of

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01:55:03.399 --> 01:55:07.760
<v Speaker 25>out with the lights, and I guess we'll go from there.

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01:55:08.680 --> 01:55:09.159
<v Speaker 6>It's about it.

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01:55:09.840 --> 01:55:12.439
<v Speaker 2>Well, I have survived one of those in the past,

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01:55:12.680 --> 01:55:15.279
<v Speaker 2>but not at this age. I don't know if I

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01:55:15.279 --> 01:55:18.039
<v Speaker 2>could do it at this age. So apparently you still

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01:55:18.079 --> 01:55:18.760
<v Speaker 2>have some work.

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01:55:18.600 --> 01:55:22.520
<v Speaker 6>To do here. So oh, a lot of work ahead

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01:55:22.520 --> 01:55:25.560
<v Speaker 6>of me. And like I said, thank you for taking

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01:55:25.600 --> 01:55:26.600
<v Speaker 6>my call. I appreciate it.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah.

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01:55:26.960 --> 01:55:28.960
<v Speaker 2>I tried to take you earlier on Skype. By the way,

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01:55:29.039 --> 01:55:32.039
<v Speaker 2>but it just was not allowing me. So my apologies

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01:55:32.039 --> 01:55:33.920
<v Speaker 2>there just would not Yeah, no, I'm not the.

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01:55:33.960 --> 01:55:37.720
<v Speaker 25>Most technically Yeah, my technical stuff. My computer was in

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01:55:37.800 --> 01:55:40.960
<v Speaker 25>the car with me when I rolled. Okay, so it's

2261
01:55:41.119 --> 01:55:44.079
<v Speaker 25>probably something to do with my computer. But I appreciate

2262
01:55:44.199 --> 01:55:46.680
<v Speaker 25>you trying to get me on with Skype.

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01:55:47.600 --> 01:55:47.880
<v Speaker 1>Okay.

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01:55:48.039 --> 01:55:49.399
<v Speaker 2>Well, I just want to let you know I wasn't

2265
01:55:49.439 --> 01:55:52.039
<v Speaker 2>trying to hold you off. It's just that I wouldn't

2266
01:55:52.359 --> 01:55:55.880
<v Speaker 2>like I didn't think. So Okay, anyway, you and I'll

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01:55:55.920 --> 01:55:57.359
<v Speaker 2>have to have a talk at some point. I guess

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01:55:57.600 --> 01:55:59.920
<v Speaker 2>maybe we'll try over the week under something, depending on

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01:56:00.119 --> 01:56:03.000
<v Speaker 2>what condition I'm in. I got a presa, I gotta

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01:56:03.159 --> 01:56:05.199
<v Speaker 2>I gotta produce aroon show in the next couple of

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01:56:05.239 --> 01:56:07.960
<v Speaker 2>minutes here, So I'm gonna let you go. But I'm

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01:56:07.960 --> 01:56:10.079
<v Speaker 2>glad to hear that you sound a lot better than

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01:56:10.119 --> 01:56:12.760
<v Speaker 2>I thought you would considering what was reported to me

2274
01:56:12.800 --> 01:56:13.479
<v Speaker 2>about your condition.

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01:56:13.680 --> 01:56:20.079
<v Speaker 1>So good. Continue to recover, all right, and like I said,

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01:56:20.079 --> 01:56:23.960
<v Speaker 1>you are to talk at some point. Okay, thank you.

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01:56:24.359 --> 01:56:25.640
<v Speaker 1>You take care absolutely.

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01:56:25.880 --> 01:56:27.680
<v Speaker 2>So that was Chris Graves everybody, So I want to

2279
01:56:27.720 --> 01:56:30.039
<v Speaker 2>give the final word to be Pete tonight. Uh as

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01:56:30.199 --> 01:56:32.359
<v Speaker 2>for what I usually like to try and do when

2281
01:56:32.359 --> 01:56:33.920
<v Speaker 2>I realize that we're running out of time.

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01:56:35.640 --> 01:56:37.119
<v Speaker 1>What's on your mind? Be Pete, go ahead.

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01:56:39.079 --> 01:56:40.880
<v Speaker 4>Well no, I'm just glad we were able to do

2284
01:56:40.960 --> 01:56:42.920
<v Speaker 4>it so and get back in a swing of things.

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01:56:42.960 --> 01:56:45.800
<v Speaker 4>I appreciate everybody calling in tonight, Danny and and uh,

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01:56:46.000 --> 01:56:54.439
<v Speaker 4>Jimmy and Chris and and Dan and uh, crap, I

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01:56:54.640 --> 01:57:03.000
<v Speaker 4>just drew blank. It's okay, truck driving friend. Oh oh oh, Harlan, Oh,

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01:57:03.199 --> 01:57:05.239
<v Speaker 4>God knows I was right on tick of dog, although

2289
01:57:05.239 --> 01:57:06.479
<v Speaker 4>I couldn't think of it anyway.

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01:57:06.760 --> 01:57:09.119
<v Speaker 3>Appreciate everybody calling in and looking forward to doing it

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01:57:09.319 --> 01:57:12.119
<v Speaker 3>next week. And I would ask everybody to go to

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01:57:12.439 --> 01:57:14.600
<v Speaker 3>Shelley dot com and hit the donate button. Do it

2293
01:57:14.680 --> 01:57:14.960
<v Speaker 3>you can.

2294
01:57:16.039 --> 01:57:16.199
<v Speaker 1>Well.

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01:57:16.239 --> 01:57:19.279
<v Speaker 2>I appreciate that too, because quite honestly, I wouldn't have

2296
01:57:19.279 --> 01:57:21.479
<v Speaker 2>been able to remain hydrated at home or to even

2297
01:57:21.560 --> 01:57:24.000
<v Speaker 2>get back up without some of the help that's come in.

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01:57:25.079 --> 01:57:27.000
<v Speaker 2>It's not been a lot, but you know what, it's

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01:57:27.039 --> 01:57:29.560
<v Speaker 2>a lot better than nothing, and I really appreciate it,

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01:57:29.720 --> 01:57:32.920
<v Speaker 2>especially considering I wasn't on air and wasn't producing for

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01:57:33.000 --> 01:57:35.359
<v Speaker 2>a bit. My apologies there, but I'm telling you I

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01:57:35.439 --> 01:57:38.680
<v Speaker 2>could not get it together. Coming up next on the network, though,

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01:57:38.720 --> 01:57:41.159
<v Speaker 2>we're gonna go live with the Age of Transitions and

2304
01:57:41.840 --> 01:57:44.640
<v Speaker 2>I think the Uncle Show. Here's a spoiler, by the way,

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01:57:45.039 --> 01:57:47.600
<v Speaker 2>The Uncle Show is going to be very much devoted

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01:57:47.640 --> 01:57:52.800
<v Speaker 2>to UAPs and maybe there's gonna be some guests on there.

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01:57:53.000 --> 01:57:53.880
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. I don't know.

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01:57:54.279 --> 01:57:55.800
<v Speaker 2>You guys are gonna have to tune in and check

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01:57:55.840 --> 01:57:58.439
<v Speaker 2>it out. That'll be the next hour. But coming right

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01:57:58.520 --> 01:58:00.840
<v Speaker 2>up now will be the Age of Transition with Aaron Franz.

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<v Speaker 2>So for myself, for be Pete, for all the people

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01:58:03.560 --> 01:58:05.920
<v Speaker 2>that called in, I thank you, and yes, if you

2313
01:58:06.000 --> 01:58:09.000
<v Speaker 2>can donate something Mittochelli dot com, it would be extremely useful,

2314
01:58:09.079 --> 01:58:12.159
<v Speaker 2>extremely helpful. And I am going to have to keep

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01:58:12.199 --> 01:58:14.520
<v Speaker 2>the website up and everything in the next month and

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01:58:14.560 --> 01:58:17.079
<v Speaker 2>a half or so. Big payments I gotta make. I

2317
01:58:17.119 --> 01:58:20.439
<v Speaker 2>got to figure out how to do that. But at

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01:58:20.520 --> 01:58:22.840
<v Speaker 2>least I'm back to doing what it is I do

2319
01:58:22.960 --> 01:58:24.880
<v Speaker 2>and hopefully I can get back on air and get

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01:58:24.960 --> 01:58:29.199
<v Speaker 2>back out some more good programming, as per what I

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<v Speaker 2>always try to do. So no matter who you are,

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01:58:32.239 --> 01:58:34.640
<v Speaker 2>where you are, when you are, remember I'm merely Ocelli

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01:58:34.800 --> 01:58:35.920
<v Speaker 2>and all of you are

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<v Speaker 8>Stam
