Speaker 1: Get ready tenth day of January twenty twenty five.
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Speaker 1: But anyway, it is what it is. V Pete.
Speaker 3: How you doing, I'm doing good, doing good glads? Friday.
Speaker 2: Well, yeah, past couple of Fridays, I haven't been able
Speaker 2: to get here though. That's what sucks about being the
Speaker 2: only guy who can actually run the producer board.
Speaker 1: You know.
Speaker 4: Yeah, A lot's happened though since last time we were
Speaker 4: on got stuff burning down.
Speaker 3: And stuff blowing up, and I mean it's just amazing.
Speaker 2: Well, California's on fire. Yawn, that's normal, isn't it?
Speaker 1: Every year?
Speaker 5: Not this bad.
Speaker 3: It's been a while since something this bad as happened.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it said Los Angeles was surrounded, right.
Speaker 4: Well, yeah, it's all the way down Malibu and Palisades
Speaker 4: area and up in the hills had three major fires
Speaker 4: and they had five fires. I haven't checked the total
Speaker 4: here lately, but yeah, they're thinking some of it's are
Speaker 4: so and some of it could have been electrical lines
Speaker 4: or something short.
Speaker 1: Now isn't that always the case, right?
Speaker 2: You know, some of it an accident, some of it's
Speaker 2: somebody lit a fire somewhere.
Speaker 1: I mean, isn't that always the case?
Speaker 4: Problem?
Speaker 3: Yeah, the problem is is the had Santa Ana winds
Speaker 3: going on.
Speaker 4: Usually they die out first part of December, but they're
Speaker 4: still kicking up pretty high.
Speaker 3: They had a low system in a high.
Speaker 4: System sitting right above each other, and because of the
Speaker 4: counter rotation, it just forces winds down to the canyons,
Speaker 4: and that's been the problem.
Speaker 3: I mean, one hundred mile an hour gusts.
Speaker 4: You look at the sustained wins forty five to fifty
Speaker 4: miles an hour down to the canyon.
Speaker 3: So it's really you get one fire going and it
Speaker 3: gets away. That's it. I mean, it's lit up.
Speaker 1: Well, there you go.
Speaker 2: I mean, you know, and what's going to happen anyway?
Speaker 2: What is going to go on with social media? In
Speaker 2: the next couple of weeks. Metas decided to give into
Speaker 2: Trump entirely and even a fund is what is inauguration
Speaker 2: and all the rest of the media, they're.
Speaker 1: All on the side. Now it's a weird world.
Speaker 4: Go ahead, Amazon, who else did I see just gave
Speaker 4: a million dollars to his inaugural?
Speaker 1: Was it Amazon? Right?
Speaker 4: And then there was an Amazon and it was just
Speaker 4: this past week they donated another usually left leaning group.
Speaker 3: Surprised me, But yeah, I mean, but that just goes
Speaker 3: to show you.
Speaker 4: You know, you look at the actions of the people,
Speaker 4: the higher ups and Democratic Party in the past two weeks,
Speaker 4: and you look at the change of heart that a.
Speaker 3: Lot of these institutions are having.
Speaker 4: They're all backing out of DEI now basically doing away
Speaker 4: with it. And you know, you get a DEI higher
Speaker 4: persistent chief of uh Fire Department in l A telling people, well,
Speaker 4: you know, if if I've got if I, you know,
Speaker 4: you complain because I can't carry your husband out of
Speaker 4: a house.
Speaker 3: But if I've got to carry your husband out of
Speaker 3: the house, he got in the wrong place anyway.
Speaker 6: You know this crap.
Speaker 4: It's it's amazing what's happened just in the past two weeks.
Speaker 3: Total change of things. I mean on.
Speaker 4: Every aspect of the news or media that you look at,
Speaker 4: you're seeing exec one, eighties chip clops, mayhem and ah damage,
Speaker 4: natural disasters or in California though, I mean, I really
Speaker 4: feel for those people because if that's a no win
Speaker 4: situation out there, well, I.
Speaker 2: Guess we get to see what happens when the Republicans
Speaker 2: are completely in charge, right, That's all there is.
Speaker 3: That's like the discussion we had many January.
Speaker 4: Well, you've already got Congress in charge, So the Republicans
Speaker 4: own whatever happens right now in the Congress, in the Senate.
Speaker 1: In my opinion, they you know, call them on it.
Speaker 4: You don't give them any length of time. You go
Speaker 4: from day one and hold them accountable. And on January twenty,
Speaker 4: we get to hold the Orange Man accountable.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but but not Elon you see, not not not
Speaker 2: the billionaires.
Speaker 1: No, I don't don't forget those guys.
Speaker 3: Accountable very easily.
Speaker 2: He's going to be part of a government or organization
Speaker 2: that's not even official.
Speaker 1: How you're gonna hold this guy caunider?
Speaker 3: So what, he's an advisor.
Speaker 4: He's like any other advisor that's been for any other
Speaker 4: president out there.
Speaker 3: It just matters that you decide to suck up too.
Speaker 2: It's just that he's a he's a maniac, and he's
Speaker 2: from South Africa.
Speaker 1: But that's okay.
Speaker 4: You know, well what I look at the history, look
Speaker 4: at all the look at all the presidential advisors that
Speaker 4: we've had. Of course, now you got to admit the
Speaker 4: last four years really don't know who in the hell
Speaker 4: was advising who.
Speaker 2: Well, that was a mystery exactly. See now that was
Speaker 2: a mystery. No longer will it be a mystery. It'll
Speaker 2: be the highest bidder, say that'll be the way it is.
Speaker 3: At least you know who to hold accountable though, So
Speaker 3: but you can't.
Speaker 4: You got to let him get in, Let him screw
Speaker 4: up until we start, you know, dumping on them, get
Speaker 4: in their chair.
Speaker 1: Hey, hey, I'm not dumping on anybody.
Speaker 2: I'm just laughing because I'm watching the media do exactly
Speaker 2: what I felt they were doing in the first place,
Speaker 2: except they were Raymond Trump is a bad guy for
Speaker 2: a long time.
Speaker 1: But they were using him for content. They were using
Speaker 1: him for rade.
Speaker 2: They were riding on his back no matter what they
Speaker 2: said about him. And nobody gets that. Everybody thinks I'm crazy,
Speaker 2: But now watched look at what's happening. Even c Span
Speaker 2: is running constant programs Trump's nominees and their own words.
Speaker 1: We got a call her, by the way, I think
Speaker 1: it's Danny from California. First up? Is that? Who this is?
Speaker 7: Hey?
Speaker 1: Okay, hey, good to hear from you.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 1: I've been down a while. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I'm still not at the top of my game. I apologize,
Speaker 2: but I'll tell you I'm I'm laughing at it.
Speaker 1: I've been able to observe. Go ahead.
Speaker 8: Are you stilling better now?
Speaker 1: Well, I'm sitting up. I'll give you that much. I mean, yeah,
Speaker 1: I mean I'm in a lot of pain.
Speaker 2: I dropped thirty pounds. Danny, I dropped thirty pounds in
Speaker 2: a month. So what do you think happened? Thirty pounds?
Speaker 1: I probably dropped off of me.
Speaker 8: Oh my gosh, were you weren't eating or just.
Speaker 3: I couldn't eat.
Speaker 2: I couldn't not eat for a couple of weeks. That's
Speaker 2: the way it was. I was that sick, uh, you know.
Speaker 2: And it was I'm not even sure exactly how long
Speaker 2: I didn't need for to be honest with you, but
Speaker 2: I think it was two three weeks.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I was really out of it. Man. I did
Speaker 1: not know what day it was.
Speaker 2: I was just not not doing well, uh, you know.
Speaker 2: And and Kim just kept trying to keep me hydrated
Speaker 2: as all because the hospital didn't help.
Speaker 1: Yeah. And uh, the hospital didn't help hy No, not
Speaker 1: with hydrate.
Speaker 2: They said, they got I you know what, I don't
Speaker 2: care what I share, right, Look, they got my bowels moving,
Speaker 2: and that was all they did for me and sent
Speaker 2: me home, uh because they thought that was the problem,
Speaker 2: I guess, but that was not the problem.
Speaker 1: Uh.
Speaker 2: And uh yeah, So Kim just you know, forced fluid
Speaker 2: down my throw pretty much and made sure I had
Speaker 2: stuff to drink, and and that was about it. But
Speaker 2: I'm telling you. I wasn't sleeping, I wasn't eating. I
Speaker 2: wasn't I was completely out of it.
Speaker 1: It was just I.
Speaker 2: Can't even tell you what history owners hit me. And
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something else. I took a COVID test.
Speaker 2: I don't even want that crap, but I took that.
Speaker 1: I didn't have it. That's not what I have. I
Speaker 1: don't know what the hell hit me. Something else, but
Speaker 1: some kind of massive bug beat the ship at it.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm serious. I don't think it was bird flu.
Speaker 2: It didn't act like bird flu.
Speaker 8: Yeah, but well they got they have bird They have
Speaker 8: bird flu here in central California, and it has effected
Speaker 8: farm workers, but nothing that has been like extreme as
Speaker 8: far as like the human cases happened been extreme. But
Speaker 8: it's it's devastating a lot of the egg and chicken
Speaker 8: farmers here in California.
Speaker 6: I know that.
Speaker 2: Well, that's well, that's going to spike those prices, right,
Speaker 2: I mean I don't. I don't buy chicken and eggs
Speaker 2: at this point. But all that's going to do is
Speaker 2: spike those prices pretty much.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 8: Oh yeah, yeah, I mean I didn't.
Speaker 6: I didn't.
Speaker 8: I was went to the store and all of a sudden,
Speaker 8: there's just no eggs. And then I was back two
Speaker 8: days later. There was no eggs, you know. And then
Speaker 8: I went to a different grocery store and there's no eggs.
Speaker 8: And then I started doing a little bit of you know,
Speaker 8: research and found out what the issue was. But sounds
Speaker 8: like something. I wasn't sick for a month, but I
Speaker 8: did have pneumonia in the beginning of December, so I
Speaker 8: was out for about three weeks. But I finally went
Speaker 8: to the doctor because I just knew I wasn't getting better.
Speaker 8: But now, twenty years ago, I had some I think
Speaker 8: it was some type of I never got tested for
Speaker 8: what it was, but it was some type of stars virus,
Speaker 8: I'm pretty sure. And I realized I hadn't gotten out
Speaker 8: of bed in four days, and I was like, and
Speaker 8: I hadn't eaten. And then I realized I was in trouble.
Speaker 8: And I walked in the into the doctor's office and
Speaker 8: I was in pretty bad shape, but they got me in.
Speaker 8: You see, that a long time to cover.
Speaker 2: Well, that kind of thing happened to me about four
Speaker 2: or five years ago, because it was like twenty twenty,
Speaker 2: and I'm sparely certain I got the COVID whatever it was,
Speaker 2: you know.
Speaker 8: That was traveling.
Speaker 1: But I was only sick for a week, you know,
Speaker 1: really bad.
Speaker 2: But I mean it was rough and I was spitting
Speaker 2: up pudding out of my lungs, I think.
Speaker 1: But but whatever, you know, I survived that.
Speaker 2: This this is something else, and I don't know what
Speaker 2: it was, but I'm telling you it had me down.
Speaker 1: There was just nothing.
Speaker 2: Everybody who knows me knows I drink soda constantly, right,
Speaker 2: I know I shouldn't, but that's what I do. Yeah,
Speaker 2: well I don't now because here's what happened. I went
Speaker 2: to even drink some soda when I was that sick,
Speaker 2: and all I was doing was throwing up foam. So
Speaker 2: you know, I couldn't. I couldn't stand it no more.
Speaker 2: So I couldn't drink it. And it just tasted like
Speaker 2: tasted like death to me. Everything tasted terrible. So I
Speaker 2: was just like, forget it. Can't, can't drink this crap
Speaker 2: no more. And it put me off the soda. So
Speaker 2: now I'm off soda.
Speaker 1: You know the only thing good water?
Speaker 8: Water is actually better. I mean all that that sugar.
Speaker 8: You know, there's and there's you know, there's a lot
Speaker 8: of they're coming out with, you know, all the spikes
Speaker 8: and diabetes and other other illnesses.
Speaker 3: I gave up.
Speaker 8: I gave up soft drinks. I gave it up for lint.
Speaker 8: This was like about thirty years ago, and I pretty
Speaker 8: much don't drink a soft drink. The only time I
Speaker 8: ever drink it is the fact because I'm always a
Speaker 8: designated driver when we go out, like if we go
Speaker 8: out to dinner, you know, if I'm not going to
Speaker 8: drink either, if I'm not, you know, I either have
Speaker 8: iced tea or one's an occasional I'll have a soft
Speaker 8: drink as a tree that I rarely drink unless I
Speaker 8: want to put some ginger ale in with my Irish whiskey.
Speaker 6: I hardly ever.
Speaker 8: Drink the soft drinks fair enough, and it's kept the
Speaker 8: weight off of me. I know that, And I know
Speaker 8: a lot of people that pound them down and they
Speaker 8: carry a lot of extra way, so good for you
Speaker 8: that you get up the SODA's. But I'm a little
Speaker 8: surprised that they didn't give you an IV because most
Speaker 8: my experience of most people when I've been hosplied my
Speaker 8: wife sounds a lot of health issues and they're always
Speaker 8: suching up an IV. I mean, they're getting you hydrated.
Speaker 8: This is just essential to get che Yeah.
Speaker 1: It's almost standard procedure. It's almost like standard procedure. Yeah,
Speaker 1: but not for me. See what happened here is okay.
Speaker 2: They test my sugar, they test all these different things,
Speaker 2: and everything's coming back, I mean almost normal, except because
Speaker 2: I was in pain. My heart rate was like elevated
Speaker 2: just a little bit. But I mean, I'm almost a
Speaker 2: textbook guy, even though I've been smoking, you know for
Speaker 2: what forty years and everything else. I'm weird because I
Speaker 2: don't show signs of that, and I drank soda for
Speaker 2: probably thirty years straight, I mean every day, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. And I'm not a diabetic. I don't
Speaker 2: I don't pop diabetic. I don't even come close, you
Speaker 2: know what I mean. And weird. So they test me
Speaker 2: and they're like everything looks good. You know what's wrong
Speaker 2: with him? And I can't hardly talk. I mean I was,
Speaker 2: I was so out of it, I really, uh mentally,
Speaker 2: I couldn't focus.
Speaker 1: I couldn't I had no strength. I mean, it was
Speaker 1: just it was ridiculous.
Speaker 2: And uh, you know, well they got the bowels moving
Speaker 2: and that's it. And and it was like, well this
Speaker 2: this will straighten itself out. It was it was stupid.
Speaker 1: Anyways, I know.
Speaker 2: This isn't what was really on your mind when you
Speaker 2: called in, so uh maybe the eggs thing, you know,
Speaker 2: but but you asked so they.
Speaker 8: They they Yeah, the I asked that they they wasn't
Speaker 8: really one to call about I I wanted to call about.
Speaker 8: We just uh pretty much are buried a president, Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 6: And I think.
Speaker 8: With Carter's presidency in his life, there's the good, bad
Speaker 8: and ugly. The good is he is he's a decent
Speaker 8: human being. I mean, he had integrity, he didn't he
Speaker 8: didn't sell his president and see, like everybody that's followed,
Speaker 8: his presidency was a mixed bag. You know. It was
Speaker 8: a one term. The first time I was had the
Speaker 8: ability to vote an election was to nineteen eighty and
Speaker 8: I voted for the other guy twice.
Speaker 6: But I just.
Speaker 8: One thing that I remember about Carter, like in when
Speaker 8: he first kind of arrived the stage in the primary,
Speaker 8: it was Jimmy who, you know, it was like, who's
Speaker 8: he is the governor of Georgia. And one thing, even
Speaker 8: though I was, you know, came from a very conservative
Speaker 8: Republican home. You know, one thing that made a lot
Speaker 8: of sense because I was in high school at that
Speaker 8: time when he was run that election, and I was
Speaker 8: heavily into reading the Bible, and he talked about human rights,
Speaker 8: and I can just remember so much of the conservative
Speaker 8: people that they kind of like dismissed it, and I
Speaker 8: could never understand. I go, I kind of agreed with you,
Speaker 8: and I didn't agree with anything else at that time
Speaker 8: with his politics, but I think he was consistent and
Speaker 8: I appreciate that. It really kind of helped me. It
Speaker 8: just made sense. That makes insense, regardless of my bias
Speaker 8: at that time. Does that make sense?
Speaker 2: Well, it's a different era, you know, the late seventies.
Speaker 2: We're definitely talking about a time that's not even recognizable
Speaker 2: compared to where we're at.
Speaker 1: Now, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: A guy like Carter I don't even think could get
Speaker 2: elected today, you know, not even once. And it was
Speaker 2: a weird break because if you think about it, there
Speaker 2: is a what a thirty year stretch there. Let's see
Speaker 2: from sixty eight on to what it takes until ninety
Speaker 2: two to get Clinton in there? Right, So from from
Speaker 2: sixty eight to ninety two.
Speaker 1: That's the only break in the Republican control of the
Speaker 1: White House. That's the way it is.
Speaker 2: He's that one oddity there, and that's I mean, that's
Speaker 2: all he can say. You know, he was never to
Speaker 2: make a comeback, none of that.
Speaker 1: What did he do.
Speaker 2: He goes out of office, and what does he wind
Speaker 2: up doing for almost the rest of his life is uh,
Speaker 2: you know the habitat for humanity thing, right, So, I mean,
Speaker 2: this is a different kind of guy then you're going
Speaker 2: to see ever again.
Speaker 1: Uh So I think he was kind of the end
Speaker 1: of an arrogant one.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but uh but then again, you know, look, he
Speaker 2: a't c fr people all over his damn cabinet.
Speaker 1: He had lots of problems. He eat a challenge the.
Speaker 2: CIA, bringing Stancefield Turner in there, you know, and uh, hey,
Speaker 2: you know he gotta he gotta give him something. He
Speaker 2: was something different in that long line.
Speaker 1: That's all. I mean, that's the way I see it.
Speaker 2: He didn't didn't get a lot done, and uh definitely
Speaker 2: had a lot of people working against him.
Speaker 1: But it is what it is.
Speaker 8: When party was against him, I remember that. Yeah, he
Speaker 8: really fucked because he wasn't a new dealer. He kind
Speaker 8: of issued in the first neo liberal president, you know,
Speaker 8: and then Reagan took it to another level. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 8: that makes sense.
Speaker 2: I'm actually cureurious about what what BP thought of Jimmy Carter.
Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure you didn't like him too much,
Speaker 2: but realistically, b P, what's your thoughts on Jimmy Carter
Speaker 2: since he's gone?
Speaker 7: Now?
Speaker 3: Well, you know I've said it before.
Speaker 4: He I think he was a good I think he
Speaker 4: was a good governor for Georgia, and I think he
Speaker 4: got elected as more of a revenge vote because of
Speaker 4: Ford partoner Nixon.
Speaker 3: I think that's what kind of ushered him in. People were,
Speaker 3: you know, they saw Nixon.
Speaker 4: Go out the way he did not know in the
Speaker 4: story now the things that we know that were going on,
Speaker 4: but Ford parted him right off the bat, and that
Speaker 4: hurt Ford when he ran it.
Speaker 3: Just I think that's what put Carter.
Speaker 4: In there well as a president and I think he
Speaker 4: sucked okay, But other than that, you know, he was
Speaker 4: he was.
Speaker 3: A good guy.
Speaker 4: He had some degree of integrity, and he did a
Speaker 4: lot of great things after he got out of office.
Speaker 4: For a very long time, he made he made a
Speaker 4: big impact on a lot of people's lives, and you know,
Speaker 4: you can't fault the guy for that. The only thing
Speaker 4: I didn't like was after he got out of office
Speaker 4: his support for groups like Hamas. That kind of surprised me.
Speaker 4: He was somewhat of a bigot when it came to Israel.
Speaker 4: But other than that, you know, he got handed a
Speaker 4: raw deal basically when he went into office and in.
Speaker 3: Fla it was one of those things.
Speaker 4: You know, inflation got so high under him, But inflation
Speaker 4: was high when he came into office.
Speaker 3: We had just gotten out of Vietnam, jacking up coming home.
Speaker 1: Yeah, it was already jacking up underd.
Speaker 4: Yeah, inflation was jacking up before he got in there.
Speaker 4: It just got worse. We had the oil in Bargo,
Speaker 4: he had to go through that. You know, he really
Speaker 4: had a lot of crap to have to deal with
Speaker 4: that he inherited. Other than his foreign policy, you know,
Speaker 4: I guess he was okay as a president, but I
Speaker 4: think I can't agree that. You know, a lot of
Speaker 4: people called him the worst president. I always joked that,
Speaker 4: you know, the only person that was happy with Joe
Speaker 4: Biden was Jimmy Carter because at least he slides up
Speaker 4: the position number two and Biden takes over as the worst.
Speaker 3: But he did a lot of good things. I we'll
Speaker 3: give him credit for that.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: And look, if people don't know their history either, you
Speaker 2: want to see worst president, why don't you have to
Speaker 2: take a look at Woodrow Wilson. I mean, give me
Speaker 2: a break. This guy and from Jersey too, by.
Speaker 4: The way, Well, you know, FDR wasn't any angel. I know,
Speaker 4: he got elected four times.
Speaker 3: But you talk about, you know, a party boss running
Speaker 3: a party, Well.
Speaker 1: There you go.
Speaker 2: There's a perfect example of an anti constitutional scumbag. Really
Speaker 2: who has been covered has said is ass covered by history.
Speaker 2: I am so tired of people talking about FDR like,
Speaker 2: you know, like he's some kind of icon. Still when
Speaker 2: you study the real record there, this guy was a
Speaker 2: tyrant period.
Speaker 4: You know, Andrew Jackson was somewhat of a pain in
Speaker 4: the ass from what I understand.
Speaker 2: Another problematic president exactly. But I mean, if I you
Speaker 2: got to ask me who the worst guy ever was,
Speaker 2: it's Woodrow Wilson.
Speaker 3: Well, I mean Carter.
Speaker 4: Carter got put in that position because of the people
Speaker 4: that I mean, you know, a lot of old timers
Speaker 4: are gone Now, the World War Two generation is you know,
Speaker 4: not far from being gone.
Speaker 3: So you've got the end of the Baby Boomers.
Speaker 4: And whatever initial they're given the generation that's there now.
Speaker 3: So you got that whole area. Carter is really the president.
Speaker 4: A lot of people don't remember Nixon, right, they came
Speaker 4: along term Carter or they started paying attention to politics
Speaker 4: when Carter got in there. He had a young daughter.
Speaker 4: You know, it was and I'm surprised. There's a lot
Speaker 4: of people that I know that didn't know that Jimmy
Speaker 4: Carter had other kids other than Amy.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, that's surprising.
Speaker 1: And you know he also had the other issues with
Speaker 1: like you know, Billy Carter too, right.
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, but I.
Speaker 4: Mean Bill Clinton had his half brother Roger, so you
Speaker 4: know it kind of comes with the family.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but you know, a little little little coke deal
Speaker 1: over here and there. I mean, Billy was a constant problem.
Speaker 1: Well his crisis DoD.
Speaker 3: Roger had to get a pardon for his coke deals. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Well, but on the other hand, it's his brother who
Speaker 2: allowed him to be locked up when he was governor,
Speaker 2: too right.
Speaker 3: So Billy was not Billy did not. Billy brought some
Speaker 3: good headlines though, and he did bring a lot of laughs,
Speaker 3: like he was very entertaining. Billy Beer.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I do remember Billy Parlger.
Speaker 8: Actually, anyways, Olivia Boliviyan sponsored Billy Beer. He too taking
Speaker 8: money from Libya. Billy Carter.
Speaker 1: Hey, look, he had to get it, he had.
Speaker 3: Hey, the man had to pay, he had to pay
Speaker 3: the rent man.
Speaker 2: And the biggest problem for this guy, everybody forgets is
Speaker 2: the hostage crisis because you know, end of the seventies America,
Speaker 2: and nobody wanted to admit the loss in Vietnam, even
Speaker 2: we were unbeatable America.
Speaker 4: Right, So well, yeah, and then our guy, are you
Speaker 4: know our guy and Iran gets booted out, right, and
Speaker 4: the one person they didn't want to come back comes
Speaker 4: back from France and takes over.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean that's what I'm saying. Carter just had
Speaker 3: a raw deal, right, He really has some sea cardstailed
Speaker 3: to him.
Speaker 2: No, if he had, if he had not had that
Speaker 2: hostage crisis, maybe you wouldn't have had a riggan if he.
Speaker 4: Hadn't had the failure on the operation to try to
Speaker 4: rescue him. One of the two helicopters ran into each
Speaker 4: other and the damn in a sandstorm.
Speaker 6: I don't.
Speaker 3: So that's what kills me. You know, our military these.
Speaker 4: Are the guys that you know, we're trying to win Vietnam.
Speaker 4: They're the ones trying to rescue our hostages. That's the
Speaker 4: scary part of it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but there you go. You know.
Speaker 2: But either way, if it didn't happen, or he succeeded
Speaker 2: in the rescue, maybe no reagul he had succeeded in
Speaker 2: the rescue.
Speaker 3: Oh man, he had been re elected.
Speaker 2: Then maybe that's what I'm saying. Maybe no reago, you know.
Speaker 2: And also the other thing is Kennedy challenging him. That
Speaker 2: was idiocy to split the party. So anyway, look, I'm gonna.
Speaker 3: Put your Kennedy. Kennedy thought he could jump in.
Speaker 4: Yeah, when he saw the reaction to caught, you know,
Speaker 4: he felt like he could take Carter on just on his.
Speaker 1: Name, on his name exactly.
Speaker 3: Anyways, too many people remember Chapi quitting.
Speaker 1: Maybe we'll maybe we'll ask this next.
Speaker 2: Already thinks of Carter, but I doubt it's going to
Speaker 2: be as kind as you were. Anyways, Jimmy James, there
Speaker 2: you are, man, you're live.
Speaker 1: What's up? You want to talk about Carter? You want
Speaker 1: to talk about something else. How you doing?
Speaker 9: I'm doing all right because.
Speaker 2: Well you know, sorry, it's been the first time back
Speaker 2: since but I'm telling you I was in no shape
Speaker 2: to talk to anybody or operate anything for weeks. So uh,
Speaker 2: and I still don't know what hit me, Jimmy. Uh,
Speaker 2: you had you had the closest hint to it, but
Speaker 2: still I don't know what it was. And it wasn't
Speaker 2: the COVID.
Speaker 9: So have bird flew Mute.
Speaker 1: Some kind of extra push to get that?
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: I have not received the book from you. No.
Speaker 2: I did receive the book from Larry Hancock, though, and
Speaker 2: I'm glad I received that. I have not gotten a
Speaker 2: chance to read it yet because I couldn't get my
Speaker 2: head up. But next week I'm going to talk to
Speaker 2: him about the new Oswald book, which will be released
Speaker 2: in January technically a few days from now. But but
Speaker 2: I've already got the reviewer copy. So but it looks great,
Speaker 2: by the way, But I just I haven't gotten a
Speaker 2: chance to really actually dive into it because my eyes
Speaker 2: I can barely keep him straight.
Speaker 3: Larry's got a new book out, Yeah.
Speaker 1: The Oswald Puzzle.
Speaker 2: Ah, yeah, cool, and he is going to piss off
Speaker 2: a bunch of people in the research community.
Speaker 1: So I'm really, really, really proud of Larry.
Speaker 3: Well, somebody needs to and if anybody can do it, it.
Speaker 1: Can be Larry damn right. And he's exactly what I argue.
Speaker 4: It's hard to it's hard to critically look at Larry's
Speaker 4: data and not pretty much agree with some of his
Speaker 4: his I don't know, opinions.
Speaker 1: He bags everything, he backs everything.
Speaker 4: It's just that, say the guys, the guys, you know,
Speaker 4: he's just meticulous and what he does well.
Speaker 2: That's why I've been so happy to have him along,
Speaker 2: like all this time. He's been the most steady you
Speaker 2: know JFK author guy that I've been able to keep
Speaker 2: with us all this time is Larry because look, there's
Speaker 2: nobody better in my opinion, you know, and with his
Speaker 2: reevaluation of Oswald, it's kind of funny because I'm telling
Speaker 2: you a lot of people needed a kick in the shins.
Speaker 1: It's a lot of nonsense that people run off of
Speaker 1: about this.
Speaker 2: And you know, look, I'm not with the Oswald Innocence
Speaker 2: Project and I'm not thinking he's a you know, a
Speaker 2: double O seven like the Judy Baker people do. But
Speaker 2: at the same time, you gotta be fair. You got
Speaker 2: to examine this guy with what we've learned over the years,
Speaker 2: not just the crap that was out there in the sixties.
Speaker 2: You know, you got to go beyond the Warrant Commission.
Speaker 2: I'm sorry, but you do. You got to know that stuff,
Speaker 2: but you got to go past it.
Speaker 1: Man.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm wonder of the files that haven't been released.
Speaker 4: I wonder what's in there about Oswald that would really
Speaker 4: change some people's minds.
Speaker 1: Well, I don't know.
Speaker 2: I figure there's probably some more close ties to some
Speaker 2: intelligence agencies, and not necessarily the CIA. That's everybody's first reaction,
Speaker 2: But I don't think it's them. I really think that
Speaker 2: naval intelligence tried to use them and found out, you know,
Speaker 2: it was a.
Speaker 1: Screw up, and look, that would not be unusual. I'm sorry.
Speaker 2: I mean, look, I know more than one military guy
Speaker 2: listens to this show, and it's going to jump on
Speaker 2: me for saying this, but sorry, I have an awareness
Speaker 2: of how some of these military intelligence agencies draw people in.
Speaker 2: You know, I look at the case of my father, which,
Speaker 2: by the way, I'm gonna have to get back on
Speaker 2: that this year again.
Speaker 1: Apparently.
Speaker 2: But you know, I look at the way that my
Speaker 2: father was drawn in. I look at the way some
Speaker 2: of the friends that have made have been drawn into
Speaker 2: these things. And not all these guys are qualified to
Speaker 2: do this stuff that they get drawn in for. And
Speaker 2: when do they find out during operations? I'm sorry, but
Speaker 2: that's what happens all the time.
Speaker 1: Now.
Speaker 2: You know, guy like you, Ppete, you might have known people,
Speaker 2: you know, maybe me James, new people, And I.
Speaker 1: Doubt you're gonna argue with me too much that that's
Speaker 1: the way this happens.
Speaker 2: And I guarantee Oswald is one of those guys who
Speaker 2: was like, you know, he looks like the kind of
Speaker 2: guy that we could probably use.
Speaker 1: And then there's there's people.
Speaker 3: Out there being used that don't even have a clue
Speaker 3: they're being used.
Speaker 2: That's the other thing, you know, there's there is a
Speaker 2: point at which he's probably unaware he's being used, and
Speaker 2: there's a point at which he's aware he's being used
Speaker 2: because you feed this guy's ego, if you listen to
Speaker 2: anybody who knew him, you feed this guy's ego, you're
Speaker 2: going to get a whole lot more action out of him.
Speaker 3: It's just that happening is did he did the things
Speaker 3: that he thought he was being used on?
Speaker 7: Was? Ay?
Speaker 3: Was he be did he think he was.
Speaker 4: Being used for a certain purpose and it was actually
Speaker 4: something else?
Speaker 1: See that specific question.
Speaker 3: You can get lost. Yeah, I mean, you can be
Speaker 3: used and you can know you're being used, But do
Speaker 3: you know you're being used for the thing you're being
Speaker 3: used for?
Speaker 1: Yeah? Really?
Speaker 2: Because okay, so you know you're involved in certain operations, right,
Speaker 2: so you know what those are, and you're doing them
Speaker 2: and meanwhile they're using you as a decoy and that
Speaker 2: is an absolutely acceptable plan. The thing is, I guarantee
Speaker 2: that the stuff that's still classified would probably reveal details
Speaker 2: like that. Because there's your problem, you know.
Speaker 3: Believe do you think it's been vacuumed enough that we're
Speaker 3: not gonna learn it? There's nothing in there that we're
Speaker 3: gonna be able to learn anything from them.
Speaker 1: I think it's gonna take another excavation.
Speaker 2: I think the stuff that's been in hand since the
Speaker 2: nineties is stale, and there's not They're gonna still resist
Speaker 2: because we'll be resisting with that for the next ten years.
Speaker 2: You know, the Trump administration is not gonna help with
Speaker 2: any of this. By the way, so I really wish
Speaker 2: and I'm waiting for the people to realize that give
Speaker 2: it a little time. Sure, let's give them this year,
Speaker 2: see what happens. But I doubt that we're gonna get
Speaker 2: even the rest of the stuff that the ARB was
Speaker 2: supposed to give us out of the Trump administration. So
Speaker 2: next administration we'll be fighting again for another set doc.
Speaker 4: I think enough, if people raise enough hell this administration,
Speaker 4: I think they'll get some only.
Speaker 2: If a billionaire dollars, only if not only if somebody
Speaker 2: who's got money behind him does it, because you know,
Speaker 2: people like us, you know, the Mary Paroll Foundation. We're
Speaker 2: going nowhere quick with this. And I'm glad that Gail
Speaker 2: did well, which, by the way, she was sick the
Speaker 2: day I was supposed to have her on the show.
Speaker 2: That wasn't even me being sick yet. I was on
Speaker 2: my way into darkness. But she was apparently ill really
Speaker 2: right the day she was supposed to talk to me.
Speaker 2: And I don't know if you guys heard that that
Speaker 2: little piece that I put out on the broadcast because
Speaker 2: her husband called me while I was live, well, I
Speaker 2: was trying to get a hold of her.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: But anyway, Gail has a situation where they're not gonna
Speaker 2: they're not gonna stop. The government wanted the case drop
Speaker 2: and they're not going to drop it. That's all there
Speaker 2: is to me.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, they gave the green lights.
Speaker 2: So yeah, so she's got the green light to collect
Speaker 2: its interesting now it gets any interesting, I.
Speaker 3: Mean, you know, and he basically said, you know that
Speaker 3: you guys have a responsibility for turning this over. Well,
Speaker 3: we don't have it, won't.
Speaker 2: Find it, find it because at one point you did
Speaker 2: have it, and we don't believe you with this whole
Speaker 2: we don't know, So yeah, go get it. And that's
Speaker 2: the bottom line is unless a judge is gonna take
Speaker 2: a position like that, which they generally haven't. And again,
Speaker 2: you know, remember Brett Kavanaugh, Supreme Court justice. This is
Speaker 2: the guy who put Jefferson Morley's.
Speaker 1: Lawsuit to sleep. Okay, that's the end of that.
Speaker 2: So remember this is not the administration that's gonna be
Speaker 2: for transparency. I disagree with you. We raise the stake.
Speaker 2: Nobody's gonna care. And I'm telling you now, nobody's gonna
Speaker 2: care unless you got money. So you know, if you
Speaker 2: got somebody who's got money, get them to raise their
Speaker 2: voice up. That's the only way this is gonna work. Jimmy,
Speaker 2: I hardly let you talk so far you're on the line.
Speaker 5: Yeah, I disagree with that assessment, But I got questions
Speaker 5: for Danny. The's Stanny boy there.
Speaker 1: Well, I can put Danny on. You want to talk
Speaker 1: to him directly?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, all right, I'll.
Speaker 2: Put Danny on. Danny, I'm putting you on. If you
Speaker 2: don't want to be on, tell me, I'll take you off.
Speaker 2: But otherwise I'll let you talk to Jimmy.
Speaker 3: Oh no, I'm back.
Speaker 8: I'm back.
Speaker 3: Sure, okay me.
Speaker 6: How you doing?
Speaker 5: There you go, I'm doing I'm doing good.
Speaker 9: Danny.
Speaker 10: Hey, dannywhere You're pretty knowledgeable.
Speaker 5: About that Danny Castle Castelero situation, aren't you.
Speaker 9: I remember you talk?
Speaker 11: Yeah yeah, oh the octopus yeah yeah, yeah yeah.
Speaker 5: So that was ninety two that he was murdered in
Speaker 5: West Virginia.
Speaker 8: That it was Martinsburg, West Virginia. It was either the
Speaker 8: I'm going to say it was the early nineties. I
Speaker 8: don't have I can't off the top of my head.
Speaker 8: I don't have the exact date. I just kind of
Speaker 8: remember that it was. Uh, I missed it on like
Speaker 8: anything that was on like ConA, like on the national Press,
Speaker 8: because it was a bleep that there's a couple of
Speaker 8: small newspapers here, when we had small newspapers in California
Speaker 8: that started talking about it on Obscure radio show. So
Speaker 8: it's always caught my interests.
Speaker 1: Okay, to clarify, Just to clarify between the two of you.
Speaker 2: He died August tenth, nineteen ninety one, in Martinsburg, West Virginia. Yes, yeah, yes,
Speaker 2: that's officially.
Speaker 9: Okay, that's fascinating now.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 5: I understand it. He was going to meet his contact.
Speaker 5: And do you know who his contact was?
Speaker 8: There's a different there's different versions. There's one the one
Speaker 8: that seems possibly the one the contact. I don't have
Speaker 8: his name off the top of my head. That would
Speaker 8: be the most And I'll see if I can find
Speaker 8: some information because I go a book right there on
Speaker 8: my bookshelf. If they have it. He happened to be
Speaker 8: something connected to the army and I leave Special Forces.
Speaker 8: And there's some that suspect that he may have killed Castillo.
Speaker 8: There's just the suicide doesn't make any sense. It's kind
Speaker 8: of like Gary Webb who wrote The Dark Lines.
Speaker 1: You know he was.
Speaker 8: He supposedly killed himself here in Sacramento, right near where
Speaker 8: I live. It was, you know, shot himself twice, but
Speaker 8: I don't remember the exact that's that's one of the
Speaker 8: characters they believe. I'm let's say if I can find Oh, yeah,
Speaker 8: I don't.
Speaker 9: Know the one.
Speaker 5: The one guy they said that he did meet that
Speaker 5: day was that f f former FBI guy that's always
Speaker 5: in the JFK case. Wasn't an FBI agent Turner?
Speaker 8: Oh the turner?
Speaker 6: Or was that? What was that?
Speaker 8: What was the guy he was? I think he was
Speaker 8: from l A. I'm trying to remember. It doesn't sound right,
Speaker 8: but I'm not. I'm not. I don't quote me on
Speaker 8: it because I'm trying to job man right now. Talk.
Speaker 9: Do you recall what that fbigis guy's name is?
Speaker 2: Well, I remember the guy you're talking about was tied
Speaker 2: into this case, but I don't remember that that was
Speaker 2: who he was meeting with. Let me let me see
Speaker 2: if I could figure that out, because you know, there's
Speaker 2: a little bit of mystery here, and I think there
Speaker 2: was more than one guy.
Speaker 5: But the FBI guys said that he did meet with
Speaker 5: them that day, but he was going to meet with
Speaker 5: the contact later.
Speaker 2: Ah, okay, well that makes sense. I just I don't
Speaker 2: remember who said he met with him. Uh, let's see
Speaker 2: meeting day of death. Let's see.
Speaker 8: I think he met with a few people and there
Speaker 8: was suns singing that they kind of identified as.
Speaker 12: He was he was connected with the army. Yeah, I'm
Speaker 12: trying to see. I got Sherry Seaman was booked out here.
Speaker 12: I'm trying to see if I can find by having
Speaker 12: marked on it.
Speaker 5: And as a uh, the stories he was working on was,
Speaker 5: as I recall, the Iran contra. Yeah, the quote unquote
Speaker 5: October surprise. Danny, remind me what's the October surprise?
Speaker 8: Well, the October surprise was that there was several individuals
Speaker 8: connected to the Reagan campaign and what they did is
Speaker 8: they met with the with Iranian depine had connections with
Speaker 8: because you know, prior to the Iranian revolution, we have
Speaker 8: a lot of contacts with the shot I mean, people
Speaker 8: had business, a lot of business arrangements. One was Bryan Earl.
Speaker 8: That's that Michael riccona shooter, said that he went there
Speaker 8: and he had contacts and was taking contact with Iranians
Speaker 8: to hold the hostages because that the way they would
Speaker 8: help Reagan get elected. There's also what's it.
Speaker 4: There's also the charge that O'Brien and what is it?
Speaker 4: What's the how does he pronounce it?
Speaker 3: Raconsiuto riccona shodo? They actually paid.
Speaker 4: Yeah, they actually paid the Iranians forty million to hold
Speaker 4: the hostages until Reagan got elected.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: But the problem there is that Riccona Shooto is like
Speaker 2: a psycho. I mean, he's all over the map with
Speaker 2: everything that he.
Speaker 4: That's what I'm saying though, I mean that, but you know,
Speaker 4: that was the big thing about the surprise.
Speaker 3: I mean, otherwise I Ran would have no reason to
Speaker 3: hold them.
Speaker 4: Yeah, but unless there was some kind of deal now
Speaker 4: there they're saying that there other theories about the dalb
Speaker 4: and some arms and things like that once Reagan gets in.
Speaker 4: But these guys just came out and said, hey, we
Speaker 4: paid them forty mil. That was the October surprise. It
Speaker 4: was also the big Inslaught case too. Where to go
Speaker 4: and ask him to put some back doors into his
Speaker 4: computer programs.
Speaker 3: So it was it was one big, one huge black hole.
Speaker 1: See.
Speaker 2: And that's the that's the thing is when it comes
Speaker 2: to the computer guys. The computer guys I believe because
Speaker 2: they are exactly the kind of guys who did that
Speaker 2: kind of work back then, you know.
Speaker 4: Because I think it was a court or somebody some
Speaker 4: I think there was a hearing when I think they
Speaker 4: found that Yeah, the government did take his software by
Speaker 4: tricking deceit, Yeah they did.
Speaker 2: And and but this is the way it was done.
Speaker 2: You know, the government seesed anything they wanted to back then.
Speaker 2: And where were you going to bitch about it? Know,
Speaker 2: you're going to go to court with the government after.
Speaker 3: That's a big That's that's a big argument because I've
Speaker 3: seen that happen just working for the state. You know,
Speaker 3: if you work on a program and the state decides
Speaker 3: to use it and then you want to say no,
Speaker 3: I'll sell it to you or you can lease it,
Speaker 3: they go, wait a minute, you're working for us, that's
Speaker 3: ours right.
Speaker 1: They claim domain over.
Speaker 4: Every college campus across America, exactly.
Speaker 2: Exactly, And this is why things are funded the way
Speaker 2: they are because this way they can they can claim
Speaker 2: dominion over it. That that's that's why it's done. I mean,
Speaker 2: you know, so look, I believe exactly that the computer
Speaker 2: programming guys no problem. But when Racona Schudo starts talking
Speaker 2: about all these other weird little operations he was on.
Speaker 1: I bet he was on some of them, but not
Speaker 1: all of them, because he's not.
Speaker 6: Dad.
Speaker 1: To you.
Speaker 8: My memories coming back to me. It was MICHAELA shooter
Speaker 8: was talking about me that it was any Castlo had
Speaker 8: met with Ted Gunderson.
Speaker 3: I believe it.
Speaker 8: Now they had a couple more things, if you want
Speaker 8: to go down the rabbit holes. Gary Sick, who was
Speaker 8: like I brought up the Jimmy Carter, he was his
Speaker 8: national security advisor, and I know that he wrote it.
Speaker 8: He had his doubts that there was some shenanigans going.
Speaker 8: He couldn't prove it. But also to you look up
Speaker 8: the very first president of Iran, he wrote a book
Speaker 8: Saved My Turn, and he claims that there was true
Speaker 8: that there was a meeting in France with members of
Speaker 8: the Reagan the Reagan teams to hold the hostages. And
Speaker 8: there has been now I don't read French or Spanish
Speaker 8: that there has been an intelligence and say that they
Speaker 8: have sources that they had a meeting took place and
Speaker 8: it was in a hotel in Paris.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you something about I'll tell you something about
Speaker 2: this that I guarantee you none of you have read
Speaker 2: because I've read it in Italian, all right, and I
Speaker 2: can read Italian in a rudimentary way. But the reports
Speaker 2: from the Italian government said that they knew about this,
Speaker 2: and this meeting wasn't you know, everybody talks about this meeting,
Speaker 2: and you know it was supposed to be the October surprise,
Speaker 2: and it's the Reagan cabinet saying hold on to the
Speaker 2: hostages till we get elected.
Speaker 1: Right.
Speaker 2: That is not the way the Italians described it. The
Speaker 2: Italians quite honestly describe it as something that only makes
Speaker 2: sense since they thought they could be coming in, they
Speaker 2: better prepare so meet with us. We might be in
Speaker 2: charge soon. And that was the gist of that meeting,
Speaker 2: and ever since people have made more of it than that.
Speaker 2: That's what the Italians thought of it. Now, I'm not
Speaker 2: saying the Italian intelligence. Look, Italian intelligence is not the
Speaker 2: highest quality on the planet, but they got a better
Speaker 2: look at it than you or I do. So I'm
Speaker 2: just saying I hold it true that part of that
Speaker 2: meeting had to have been just, look, we're possibly the
Speaker 2: people in power next and you're gonna have to deal.
Speaker 8: With that.
Speaker 1: And I'm sure.
Speaker 2: What I'm saying is I don't hold the Reagan I
Speaker 2: don't hold the Reagan people responsible for the same conspiracy
Speaker 2: a lot of other people do.
Speaker 1: Necessarily, I'm not saying it's impossible.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying that I don't jump to that conclusion
Speaker 2: like everybody else does. Because the Italians released their intelligence
Speaker 2: reports after the Iran contry hearings here, and nobody paid
Speaker 2: attention to it in America because it was in Italian.
Speaker 2: It was in the Italian newspapers, and you know, unless
Speaker 2: it's the mob, nobody gives a crap, right, So there
Speaker 2: you go.
Speaker 1: That's America.
Speaker 2: But believe it or not, Italian intelligence releases stuff to
Speaker 2: the public all the time after things have happened and say, look,
Speaker 2: we knew about this, we were on this. They're constantly
Speaker 2: trying to justify their existence, is what they're doing to
Speaker 2: the Italians. So just so happens. I can read that.
Speaker 2: I can read Italian and UH and and what is it?
Speaker 2: The the republica, whatever the hell it is, the two
Speaker 2: newspapers they often send over to America. I can read those, uh,
Speaker 2: not always perfectly, but I can read them enough to
Speaker 2: understand what happened. So their their opinion though, was basically
Speaker 2: it was just about the transition, not about this whole
Speaker 2: hold on to the hostages.
Speaker 1: Do we get in?
Speaker 2: It was just like, look, be prepared, where the guys
Speaker 2: who were coming next, We feel we're gonna win. That
Speaker 2: was the meeting there in France.
Speaker 1: All right, So but but god hear me, Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 10: Jimmy, okay, all right, yeah, I ten do agree. Well,
Speaker 10: I do agree that break Its people had nothing to
Speaker 10: do with their release.
Speaker 6: We already.
Speaker 5: I mean, this is forty what four or five years ago?
Speaker 5: Everyone chen there's has been all kinds of documents release,
Speaker 5: but there has been and there's just all kinds of
Speaker 5: people out there that could be talked to.
Speaker 1: Uh, same time, I don't believe that forty million.
Speaker 10: Because they knew if they did, Reagan was going to
Speaker 10: bomb the ever living hell out of it and remove
Speaker 10: them before they even had one year on office.
Speaker 1: Well there you go, pragmatic.
Speaker 2: Right, Look, we got a guy who's definitely like if
Speaker 2: Dixon was in office, they knew they would have been bombed.
Speaker 1: So they're not going to pull this crap.
Speaker 2: Right, you know, It's it's the one good thing I
Speaker 2: see from the Trump administration coming up is that everybody's
Speaker 2: got to calculate, is this guy crazy enough to bomb
Speaker 2: us if we pulled something. That's the only thing that's
Speaker 2: good about Trump coming in office. Is this guy nuts
Speaker 2: enough to launch against us? Right because he doesn't care
Speaker 2: about the consequences or what it means to whoever. He's
Speaker 2: talking about taking over Canada and buying Greenland, so whatever.
Speaker 2: This guy don't give a crap, So do we mess
Speaker 2: with anything that could piss him off. That's the only
Speaker 2: good thing about this guy going in the office. It's
Speaker 2: not gonna be negotiation.
Speaker 1: It'll be a reaction. Go ahead, I'm sorry, Jimmy, GoAhead.
Speaker 9: I wonder.
Speaker 2: Man. Anyways, And Kadafi paid for this, by the way,
Speaker 2: Kadafi is the one who winds up paying for this
Speaker 2: later because there's all kinds of terrorists across the planet.
Speaker 2: But we bombed the hell out of Kadafi, right, He
Speaker 2: wasn't the master find of most things, but we hit
Speaker 2: him because his name was recognizable. And Reagan had to
Speaker 2: go somewhere because he wasn't bombing Iraq Iran.
Speaker 1: And you know, we weren't.
Speaker 2: We weren't pissed off a Hussein yet so you know,
Speaker 2: he was still basically one of our guys, whosaying, don't
Speaker 2: forget that he was helping us in the era, right,
Speaker 2: so you know, yeah, they had to bomb somebody.
Speaker 5: Paid, Yeah, the Americans back to Bath Party and then
Speaker 5: Saddam killed that then president who took patrol. So in
Speaker 5: a sense, if we will say America supported Saddam, we
Speaker 5: did not really did.
Speaker 1: In the in the Iran Iraq war. War you got
Speaker 1: to begin me the Iran Iraq War, we were definitely with.
Speaker 9: The well, we.
Speaker 4: Actually did, and that went on for several years, right, right,
Speaker 4: I mean he was just.
Speaker 9: This West virgin his situation.
Speaker 3: I could sure.
Speaker 5: The alleged say the Danny Castleo. Okay, well other Danny
Speaker 5: alive Danny uh. He find it odd everything that Danny
Speaker 5: cass Lero was looking into. It was part of Operation Odyssey.
Speaker 9: And do you find it odd that he.
Speaker 5: Was murdered in the same year that the Soviet Union collapsed?
Speaker 5: Could it be that his handler decided to get rid
Speaker 5: of him because he didn't want books and stuff coming
Speaker 5: out and he just wanted to fade away, Now do
Speaker 5: you data that's possible?
Speaker 8: I sure it was just a really odd. It was
Speaker 8: an odd deal. But you know, going back to the
Speaker 8: whole Iran Iraq war, if you look at you know,
Speaker 8: the news source Consortium News, JP Sailly wrote.
Speaker 2: For years, Yeah, until the guy who was running that die.
Speaker 8: Yeah. JP Stilly wrote a lot for Consorting News for
Speaker 8: a while though. That's how I kind of found you
Speaker 8: show chuck through kind of when you were doing him,
Speaker 8: and I was like, always liked his writing. But Robert Perry,
Speaker 8: who broke the Iran contra, I believe it was. I
Speaker 8: think he was working at Newsweek. He put on a
Speaker 8: series about the October Surprise, which was really interesting. I
Speaker 8: think there's archives and Consortive News, but one of the
Speaker 8: ones that was really kind of interesting is that whole
Speaker 8: Iran Iraq war and Iran was the big boogeyman enemy
Speaker 8: of US. I mean, he was hated the the size
Speaker 8: of the Conservatives and there ended up being in the
Speaker 8: very This was before really the the we really started
Speaker 8: supporting the contures that were live. It was in the
Speaker 8: early eighties. A plane was shot down and it happened
Speaker 8: to have a lot of spare parts that the Iranians
Speaker 8: wanted to fight that war, to fight against the the
Speaker 8: iraqis so I think we're playing both sides, and I
Speaker 8: wouldn't you know, I don't. I'm not claiming that I
Speaker 8: know everything about the October Surprise and ran Contra, but
Speaker 8: there's just a lot of things that's like, again, they're
Speaker 8: playing both sides. There's a lot of information, and it's
Speaker 8: very interesting with your take with your Italian newspaper has
Speaker 8: but if you go on that source, there's a lot
Speaker 8: of sources. A Lobert Perry wrote a book called I
Speaker 8: think it's called Tricker Trees, and he's got a lot
Speaker 8: of information. He kind of felt that there was some
Speaker 8: shenanigans with the Reagan administration.
Speaker 3: Yeah.
Speaker 2: True, very Perry is a great source, but he misses
Speaker 2: the look. One thing that's not understood by a lot
Speaker 2: of people, right is that they figure that military strategy
Speaker 2: is pretty simple. If we fund somebody's enemy, we're looking
Speaker 2: to destroy.
Speaker 1: That person, right.
Speaker 3: We're not.
Speaker 1: That's not necessarily the case.
Speaker 2: Sometimes we're just trying to keep him busy so that
Speaker 2: they don't have time and they don't have to develop
Speaker 2: something else. Okay, and if you keep them busy with
Speaker 2: the conflict on a border, believe me, that'll keep them
Speaker 2: busy a long time, and sometimes you gotta prop up
Speaker 2: the enemy. You prop up the enemy to keep the
Speaker 2: conflict going, to keep it raging. You know why, it
Speaker 2: doesn't cost us anything because we're doing this, okay, via
Speaker 2: what a surrogate. So you put a surrogate in there.
Speaker 2: They're losing their people, they're losing their equipment. We're the
Speaker 2: good guys. We come in and fund them, and secretly
Speaker 2: you drop a little to the enemy too, through another surrogate,
Speaker 2: so it doesn't look like you. And that kind of
Speaker 2: strategy used to work out a lot better in the
Speaker 2: days when we didn't have satellite coverage like we do
Speaker 2: now and news coverage like we do now. You're gonna
Speaker 2: get caught pulling that crap. Now, okay, you want to
Speaker 2: fund both sides of a war, you're gonna get caught.
Speaker 2: Even if people don't understand what they're seeing, somebody will, Okay.
Speaker 2: So the bottom line is, we can fund both sides
Speaker 2: of any conflict at any time back then, and as
Speaker 2: long as it was you know, within the budget, made sense.
Speaker 2: Keep them busy with each other, even you know, perfect
Speaker 2: way to go triangular diplomacy. There's triangular military strategy as well,
Speaker 2: it's not all about search and destroy, Okay, Sometimes it's
Speaker 2: about distract and deflect.
Speaker 1: And I think.
Speaker 2: People fail to understand that. They just figure it's all
Speaker 2: about well, you just tall you're out there to destroy
Speaker 2: the enemy, that's it. No, it's not always a simple
Speaker 2: game like that, especially when you're not playing with your
Speaker 2: own pieces on the board. If you can use somebody
Speaker 2: else's keep them busy for a decade, no problem. Okay,
Speaker 2: just don't get caught. Don't get caught doing both, you know,
Speaker 2: get caught doing one, not both. Very simple, just like
Speaker 2: how the Civil War went when we had weapons being
Speaker 2: sold to both sides here prolong the conflict. Okay, somebody
Speaker 2: did that for a whole reason, all right, because they
Speaker 2: wanted to get their feet. They're footholding certain businesses. And
Speaker 2: by the way, that ties to the Bush family, thank
Speaker 2: you very much. And you know that's a that's not
Speaker 2: even uh you know, the Prescott later. I'm talking about
Speaker 2: the ones that come in with Barbara Bush.
Speaker 1: Her family, right, they were funded both sides of the
Speaker 1: Civil War. I mean, God help us. Anyways, go ahead, No, Danny,
Speaker 1: I'm so George.
Speaker 8: Yeah, well no, no, when George, but you know, George
Speaker 8: h us when he got an office, he you know,
Speaker 8: went on the board of the Carlis which was based
Speaker 8: still a military contractor. So yeah, it's just, you know,
Speaker 8: keep the conflict going, keep them busy, make profits. Talk
Speaker 8: about the civil wars. Notice that you have both the
Speaker 8: Union and the Consederates. They got all these uniforms.
Speaker 6: They got to have.
Speaker 8: Uniforms and supplies, right, Yeah, they want to you know,
Speaker 8: somebody's make a lot of money. Let's keep this conflict going.
Speaker 2: Whether you're making military meals or you're making shoes, it
Speaker 2: doesn't really matter, does it. Okay, you got to you
Speaker 2: gotta make tense, you go whatever. So, yeah, lots of
Speaker 2: money there.
Speaker 1: That's why.
Speaker 2: That's why Halliburton, that's why Halliburton could turn around and
Speaker 2: buy up all at a toxic crap and then and
Speaker 2: then make their make a load of money.
Speaker 1: Off of it. Anyway, because they they were they had
Speaker 1: the end for the contracts anyways, business business of war.
Speaker 13: Yeah, Jimmy, go ahead, oh uh, you say, the business
Speaker 13: war and make the money.
Speaker 9: Aren't they worried they might lose?
Speaker 2: Well, how do you lose if you have two sides
Speaker 2: of a military and you're able to supply both of them,
Speaker 2: and they're willing to be in a conflict with one
Speaker 2: another for whatever reason.
Speaker 1: How do you lose?
Speaker 5: You just started out with a pretty big play. If
Speaker 5: you control both sides.
Speaker 1: No no, no control no no, no, no, no, no no. You
Speaker 1: don't got to control both sides, not at all.
Speaker 2: Well, all you got to do is activate one side, Jim.
Speaker 2: You don't got to control both sides. You got to
Speaker 2: be able to feed both sides, not control both sides.
Speaker 2: You see, you just get one of them motivating the
Speaker 2: right control, and you.
Speaker 5: Just end up destroying your whole country. Don't take that's
Speaker 5: a little risky for a couple of boot sales.
Speaker 2: But you don't do it in your country, do you?
Speaker 2: You do it way somewhere else.
Speaker 5: What's been going on in the last four years? How
Speaker 5: come it's happening in our country? Is someone trying to
Speaker 5: destroy us?
Speaker 1: Well, you guys, you guys have said that, haven't you.
Speaker 1: Is that there's somebody.
Speaker 2: I think you got the wrong culprit, but you're right,
Speaker 2: there is somebody looking to systematically strip this country. We're
Speaker 2: being striped mined. Basically, there's gonna be no resources left.
Speaker 1: I give it, I give it.
Speaker 13: Five years isn't murderful safety.
Speaker 2: I believe there's gonna be no resources left here human
Speaker 2: or otherwise in five years, Okay, and that's the way
Speaker 2: we're going.
Speaker 10: You want five years?
Speaker 3: Boy?
Speaker 5: If I honestly thought I'd be here in five years,
Speaker 5: I didn't make any bet you wanted.
Speaker 9: I bet a year from now the world.
Speaker 5: Will be at peace to a far greater extent. I
Speaker 5: believe the gas will be Oh, I don't owe a
Speaker 5: buck cheaper a gallon, And I predict that you and
Speaker 5: Danny will still be talking about what an awful tyrant
Speaker 5: Trump is, and meanwhile the whole country will return to normality.
Speaker 1: Did I did I say anything about Trump being a
Speaker 1: tyrant during the show? Did I say something like that? Pepe?
Speaker 1: Did I say something like.
Speaker 3: That turned the whole course of this show? I have
Speaker 3: no idea. As many comments as you've made about Trump,
Speaker 3: I don't know you could. It is in the realm
Speaker 3: of possibility.
Speaker 2: I think I said that that the media has now
Speaker 2: gone to his side openly.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: I think I said that even previous when they were
Speaker 2: opposing him, that it was all a sham, It was
Speaker 2: just to build up ratings and have content. I said
Speaker 2: that I didn't say anything about him being tyrant. I
Speaker 2: called some other people tyrants.
Speaker 3: Yeah, he was in office.
Speaker 1: I called Fdr tyrant, I called if your tyrant. I
Speaker 1: did that.
Speaker 9: You did do that.
Speaker 5: But you've called, You've applied that Trump a million times
Speaker 5: is some kind of authoritarian And even though he's a
Speaker 5: peace nick, you keep saying he's a warm hunger. It's insane. Okay,
Speaker 5: I don't get it.
Speaker 6: No, you you want you want.
Speaker 2: My honest opinion on Trump really totally unfettered at this point.
Speaker 2: I could give it to you, but you won't like
Speaker 2: it either way. It's not the one you just gave.
Speaker 9: I already know it. There's no reason.
Speaker 6: What is Trump?
Speaker 1: Tell me? Tell me.
Speaker 5: I've heard you say a million times. You think he's
Speaker 5: the caricature that you had from your head thirty years ago.
Speaker 5: He's the blah blah from the bar and he's ripping. Oh,
Speaker 5: he's a welfare tant or whatever.
Speaker 9: They say.
Speaker 13: What the hell are you talking about welfare? You think
Speaker 13: that Donald Trump was granding to Section eight people. Yeah,
Speaker 13: some retard was trying to say he made a bunch
Speaker 13: of his money from the government, calling him a slum lord.
Speaker 1: Were you not so no, his father was a slum lord.
Speaker 1: Not know that his father was the slum lord. He
Speaker 1: inherited that business. But that's Bred Trump. You take a
Speaker 1: look at the.
Speaker 2: Commission and the places he had in New York, and
Speaker 2: he got government money.
Speaker 5: He got a seven million dollars from the Dad as
Speaker 5: I recall.
Speaker 1: Yeah, okay, he got to go to this. They got government.
Speaker 5: Money become billionaires.
Speaker 1: Uh huh.
Speaker 2: They got government money for a whole bunch of improvements
Speaker 2: to its some some very very dilapidated properties in Queens.
Speaker 2: But that's the only thing I could claim there. And
Speaker 2: that's Fred Trump's organization. That's not Donald's. Donald's whole thing
Speaker 2: is selling his brand and selling himself. And I don't
Speaker 2: think he gives a damn about anybody like you, me
Speaker 2: or anybody else. But that's the way I see him.
Speaker 2: I didn't a tyrant. He's just he's just another, you know,
Speaker 2: another big businessman that's out there to rob everybody.
Speaker 1: That's all.
Speaker 9: Why did he run?
Speaker 5: If all he cares about himselfs wh why did Trump
Speaker 5: bother to run?
Speaker 9: He's eighty years.
Speaker 5: Old almost, Why didn't he just ten years ago just retire?
Speaker 2: Gives him the position of power, and he was. He
Speaker 2: was almost broke about fifteen years ago. Okay, how much
Speaker 2: money got flushed? You know, you know how many billions
Speaker 2: of dollars that I lost?
Speaker 1: Okay, it's okay.
Speaker 13: Ten years ago he was making one hundred million dollars.
Speaker 9: A year for a NBC.
Speaker 5: He was the most celebrated man on television. Yeah, he
Speaker 5: was really in rough shit, all right.
Speaker 1: He couldn't even pay his loan payments. But that's okay,
Speaker 1: that that hundred million wouldn't even pay the loan payments
Speaker 1: on the stuff.
Speaker 5: Yet we just went through this. He went to court
Speaker 5: because they claimed that he tried to cheat on.
Speaker 9: A loan, which is ass nine.
Speaker 5: He paid every cent back. Even the banks said, now
Speaker 5: we're pretty happy with him.
Speaker 9: We made five hundred billion.
Speaker 5: Dollars profit in the last ten years from the guy.
Speaker 1: It's all good. It's all millions, it's all good.
Speaker 2: The same thing that you would have went to jail
Speaker 2: for trying to trying to push up the price on
Speaker 2: your house by ten grand.
Speaker 1: He gets nothing, and he's gonna get nothing for anything
Speaker 1: he did, whether he was whether it was true or not.
Speaker 1: So there you go.
Speaker 4: I have working for an accountant and looking at some
Speaker 4: of these large companies that hold several hotels yep, and
Speaker 4: several car dealers and things of that nature.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: Trump did what is done a billion times a day,
Speaker 4: even when it comes to Mom.
Speaker 3: And Joe blow trying to buy a house.
Speaker 1: Absolutely true. The bigger the numbers get, the more they're
Speaker 1: full of crap.
Speaker 4: Anybody going to jail for overinflating their property unless it
Speaker 4: was involved in a fraud.
Speaker 2: You got you gotta look up. You got to look
Speaker 2: up what happens in the federal courts man. People go
Speaker 2: to jail all the time for conspiracy on the stuff constantly,
Speaker 2: only if it involved faun.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Trump didn't do anything that involve.
Speaker 1: Faud Okay, So what's the position.
Speaker 4: Is that you just got mailed for did not involve
Speaker 4: fraud at anything that I read another opinion today where
Speaker 4: guy said this was a nothing crime with a nothing sentence.
Speaker 1: Yep.
Speaker 4: And that's why it was nothing because the crime was nothing.
Speaker 4: The crime didn't even exist. It's made up.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: So you try and inflate the value of something that
Speaker 2: you're trying to get a loan on and get cut back.
Speaker 4: Always going on alone, I always overinflate my assets because
Speaker 4: I know that they're going to do their due diligence
Speaker 4: and they're going to have it appraised.
Speaker 3: So it doesn't matter what value I've put on it.
Speaker 4: What matters is the paperwork from the appraiser when he
Speaker 4: comes back and says it's this, because that's what the
Speaker 4: bank or the financial.
Speaker 3: Institution is going to base it on and it's their
Speaker 3: own search.
Speaker 2: And what do you sign to every time you give
Speaker 2: them an inflated number, something that says that if you're
Speaker 2: giving them false information.
Speaker 1: You agree to be prosecuted for it, don't you.
Speaker 4: It's not false, it's based on my opinion or belief.
Speaker 4: If it's based on my research, and I can say
Speaker 4: I've got three comparable properties to use to say that
Speaker 4: this is worked this much. And then you come back
Speaker 4: with your side, say, well, our appraiser says it's this.
Speaker 3: So because our appraiser says it's this, we'll give you.
Speaker 4: Seventy percent of that and this is the amount that
Speaker 4: will loan you. It's just a standard transaction. So you
Speaker 4: always over inflate. No, there's very few people except the
Speaker 4: praisers that are in certain lines.
Speaker 3: Car appraisers. They can give you an honest price on
Speaker 3: a car.
Speaker 4: Antiquappraisers they can give you an honest value of an antique.
Speaker 3: Commercial developers can go out and give.
Speaker 4: You their opinion of what that that business and all
Speaker 4: of its assets is worth. It happens a thousand times,
Speaker 4: and it's all subjective until you start whipping out the comparables.
Speaker 3: Well, let me let me ask you to jail. Okay,
Speaker 3: I've never heard of anybody going to jail unless it
Speaker 3: involved Okay.
Speaker 1: Rich people are all good, fine, got you, Okay, Let
Speaker 1: me just ask you a question. Let me just ask
Speaker 1: you this question.
Speaker 2: Do you think do you honestly believe that you get
Speaker 2: the same kind of treatment from these institutions as somebody
Speaker 2: like a Trump, as somebody who's in a big corporation.
Speaker 2: You get the same kind of treatment, You get the
Speaker 2: same kind of Hey, I give them a value, they
Speaker 2: give me. One day, they're going.
Speaker 1: To adjust to this. You you honestly think that's the
Speaker 1: way it's done.
Speaker 3: Yes, that's the way it's done. It happens all the time.
Speaker 3: Believe me.
Speaker 4: When I was working for an accountant, I saw what
Speaker 4: these people went through going to get appraisals. When it
Speaker 4: came time we had guys in bankruptcy, they had to
Speaker 4: come up with what their what their figures were, and
Speaker 4: then you had an independent trustee go in and they
Speaker 4: decided what figures were and it's all negotiated out. I
Speaker 4: have never heard of anybody going to jail for inflating
Speaker 4: the value of an asset unless it involved fraud.
Speaker 3: Okay, unless they did something that was illegal, excellent, connected
Speaker 3: to the inflation. People over inflate their assets all the.
Speaker 1: Time, excellent. Okay.
Speaker 2: Hey, look, it's gonna take a little while for people
Speaker 2: who think that this is all okay to die off.
Speaker 2: So once that happens, we'll see a.
Speaker 14: Goodpt I for uh, you know how the Tuck's very
Speaker 14: concerned about people's financial appraisals.
Speaker 1: Well, that da in New.
Speaker 5: York City APIs Mara a lago for eighteen million dollars.
Speaker 5: I think she should be prosecuted for that, because everybody
Speaker 5: knows that piece of property is literally worth one billion dollars.
Speaker 10: Based out all the other properties around there.
Speaker 4: He should be unless now, if you could be if
Speaker 4: you could civilly take her into court and prove fraud
Speaker 4: in her in her going after Trump. Yeah, that's the problem.
Speaker 4: You've got to prove a connected fraud.
Speaker 3: You've got to prove an the legality to whatever what
Speaker 3: was it? Eighteen million? Eighteen million wouldn't even buy what
Speaker 3: three feet of curb frontage at Mar A Lago because
Speaker 3: of what it's worth.
Speaker 1: Now, you guys are going to get what you want
Speaker 1: because they're going to.
Speaker 2: Go after everybody who even made a single complaint. That's
Speaker 2: the way it's going to go.
Speaker 3: So how do you figure, No, Trump got a special deal.
Speaker 3: Trump got whatever deal he got.
Speaker 4: From the people he's used to doing business with. It
Speaker 4: happens all the time, not just with Trump and not
Speaker 4: just with multi billion dollar deals.
Speaker 3: It happens down the street when the guy was to
Speaker 3: sell his Yamaha dealership and they have to come to
Speaker 3: a price, or somebody goes into bankruptcy and they have
Speaker 3: to come up with appraisals of what the actual assets
Speaker 3: are worth. See, it happens all the time. If I
Speaker 3: agree with you've never seen anybody go to jail.
Speaker 2: If I agree with you, and if you were and
Speaker 2: if you were real about this, just Trump, if you
Speaker 2: were real about this and you really believe this, then
Speaker 2: you would be calling for the release of practically ninety
Speaker 2: percent of the people who have been caught up in
Speaker 2: Rico trials over the past thirty years. You know that
Speaker 2: every mob guy, Sally, Oh, you know how many mob
Speaker 2: guys have gone down for exactly that kind of crap
Speaker 2: where they've just overinflated crap and then gotten a loan
Speaker 2: off it and then not paid the loan back like
Speaker 2: Trump did, or turned around and paid the loan back.
Speaker 9: And still that's the dirits.
Speaker 5: Trump paid back his damn loans, not all.
Speaker 1: Of them, not all of them. That's not true.
Speaker 13: There's wait a minute, yep, he did, okay, so even
Speaker 13: the lasering five chats belaven and restructured the loans.
Speaker 5: He paid them back.
Speaker 2: So you ignored all the foreign banks. Fine, cool, great, anyway,
Speaker 2: So how many how many Rico trial guys? How many
Speaker 2: mobsters need to be released guys? How many of them
Speaker 2: now because they are.
Speaker 1: Exactly the same crap?
Speaker 3: How many? Let me ask this question, how many of
Speaker 3: those individuals connected with the mob that went down for
Speaker 3: a Rico statue were doing things that were illegal to
Speaker 3: get that money.
Speaker 1: Here's the thing.
Speaker 2: That's a lot of them with just inflated assets and
Speaker 2: switching that crap out.
Speaker 3: Trump did not do anything that was illegal. He used
Speaker 3: standard accounting practices to keep the things on his books.
Speaker 3: What they did was made up a crime and connected
Speaker 3: it to an election violation, and the election committee looked
Speaker 3: at it and said, we're not going to prosecute on this.
Speaker 3: It's not there's nothing here.
Speaker 2: Well, if anybody doesn't believe me, study the Rico trials
Speaker 2: where they couldn't go couldn't nail people on murder because
Speaker 2: they couldn't catch them involved directly, but said the organization
Speaker 2: was involved. And what they really got them on the
Speaker 2: financial crimes is the constant inflating assets when they go
Speaker 2: for certain things and deflating them when they go from us.
Speaker 4: The prime was not inflating the asset, and crime was
Speaker 4: inflating the asset in conjunction with doing something that was
Speaker 4: against the law.
Speaker 1: Okay, so did he file taxes during that time? Is
Speaker 1: that not? Is tax braught not a problem?
Speaker 3: Taxes? Taxes are totally separate taxes.
Speaker 4: He's had his taxes gone over inside now nineteen times.
Speaker 1: Well, al Capone might disagree with you, the taxes.
Speaker 3: Aren't different, and he's paid his taxes.
Speaker 1: How Capone might disagree with you, the taxes are different
Speaker 1: considering that's the only thing they really put them in
Speaker 1: prison for.
Speaker 3: But yeah, that's how Capona from a legal difference.
Speaker 2: Yeah, but you notice it wasn't because he had illegal
Speaker 2: It wasn't because the money was illegals because he didn't pay.
Speaker 1: The tax on it properly. That's what the problem was.
Speaker 3: Trump paid his taxes using an example that doesn't even
Speaker 3: fit the situation.
Speaker 2: Okay, so the year he paid seven hundred and ninety
Speaker 2: five dollars in tax you think that makes any sort
Speaker 2: of sense considering the amount of income he had.
Speaker 3: Considering the amount of yeah, wide off that he had.
Speaker 1: Yeah, awesome, there you go. So, like I said, check
Speaker 1: out the Rico trials, the people who went down all.
Speaker 3: The other.
Speaker 4: You're preparing apples and oranges in this thing and trying
Speaker 4: to say, Okay, well, if you let Trump get away
Speaker 4: with it, look at all these mobsters that are in
Speaker 4: jail that got put on it.
Speaker 3: There's no comparison.
Speaker 4: Why not you acting like Trump has not had any
Speaker 4: scrutiny whatsoever if.
Speaker 1: It's the same. Yeah, but here's the thing.
Speaker 2: The government wanted to nail those guys and didn't want
Speaker 2: to nail him, And this is why it went on
Speaker 2: for so long?
Speaker 3: What do you mean the government didn't want to nail him.
Speaker 3: They just went through what five different trials that blew
Speaker 3: apart in trying to nail him, plus two impeachments.
Speaker 1: Yeah, all it was defeated.
Speaker 2: But the moment they entered it is really really come on,
Speaker 2: how how how ridiculous does it have to be before
Speaker 2: you realize that? You know, it's put out there as
Speaker 2: as a sham again to get people hooked.
Speaker 1: On the idea, Oh, this guy's gonna go down, and
Speaker 1: it's garbage. They know they didn't. They didn't go after
Speaker 1: him for any of the right stuff, none of it.
Speaker 3: What should they have gone after him for?
Speaker 1: How about selling pedaling influence which he did directly in public,
Speaker 1: right in front of everybody's face. But when when.
Speaker 3: Inuence, wait a minute.
Speaker 2: Then he go ahead, go ahead, because I'm just a maniac,
Speaker 2: So please give him something sane good. Danny has examples,
Speaker 2: and I have no idea about him. I'm willing to
Speaker 2: let him speak for a minute of your mind.
Speaker 8: The souls just thought out there. I mean, Mlania just
Speaker 8: got I mean they're there for sale. Milania just got it.
Speaker 8: What a forty million dollars for a documentary from Amazon
Speaker 8: Jeff Bezos. Everybody knows that Trump's for sale. You know.
Speaker 3: What.
Speaker 8: Let's see his son Jeriic got two billion dollars from
Speaker 8: the Saudi government, his live government, his golf, the live
Speaker 8: government from Saudi Arabia. He's got deals in Omar right now,
Speaker 8: Turkey licensing deals. He's the Chuck's right. I mean, if
Speaker 8: you're really going to be honest, you have to go
Speaker 8: after him for the right things. If you actually read
Speaker 8: like the Mola report, nobody did back the second half
Speaker 8: the first half. The second half has showed ten counts
Speaker 8: of obstruction of justice, purjury, witness tampering. There's a hun
Speaker 8: hundred and fifty pages there of court talking and dan
Speaker 8: near seventy percent was all connected to the Clinton impeachments,
Speaker 8: which I favored Clinton being impeach. And guess what. Robert
Speaker 8: Moeller of Vietnam VETT, who Trump his insulted gold Star families,
Speaker 8: put it right out there, says, here's your blueprint. He goes,
Speaker 8: I can't impeach the president. I can't go up from krimly.
Speaker 8: But he gave a blueprint to the Republicans and the Democrats.
Speaker 8: One party to Both parties chose to do nothing. They
Speaker 8: impeached him money on nonsense. There was the right, there
Speaker 8: a blueprint. The monuments caused what I saw in Forbes magazine.
Speaker 8: Trump made one hundred and sixty million dollars with his
Speaker 8: business deals member Jimmy Carter. He had to sell his
Speaker 8: peanut farm and put on the assets in a blind
Speaker 8: trust so he didn't show there was any conflict of interests.
Speaker 8: Have some moral integrity, Quinton sending it just because he's
Speaker 8: on your side. He's just as bad as everybody's been
Speaker 8: in office and the Democrats.
Speaker 5: That is, the Democrats often use the elected office to
Speaker 5: make their money, like Jimmy Carter, Bill Quintid and the rest.
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what, Name me a congressman.
Speaker 2: Name me a congressman who stayed in there any amount
Speaker 2: of time that didn't come out with a fortune. Democrat
Speaker 2: or Republican. Name me one go ahead, one.
Speaker 5: Okay, office with half as much money as he went
Speaker 5: in with.
Speaker 9: Who Donald John Trump?
Speaker 2: No, not a congressman. Not a congressman, disqualified congressman. I
Speaker 2: asked you, I asked you for a congressman. Can Trump
Speaker 2: is not a congressman? Give me a congressman.
Speaker 13: Okay, left office moorer than when he entered it.
Speaker 8: Congressman, Gee, let's see, that's hard to say.
Speaker 9: I have no idea.
Speaker 6: I'll give it cred.
Speaker 1: There you go. You won't find one.
Speaker 5: Why would you have to exactly lose money to join coundress?
Speaker 2: Because I mean you're only making a hundred some thousand
Speaker 2: dollars a year.
Speaker 5: Got less money often mm hmm.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: Somehow you go in with a salary at last and
Speaker 2: come out millionaires.
Speaker 1: That's beautiful. I don't know how that's done. I really
Speaker 1: want somebody to show me.
Speaker 13: That that the Republicans go in millionaires and come out
Speaker 13: going to prison.
Speaker 1: Who went to prison? Who see?
Speaker 5: I don't know for how swip tom delay or some
Speaker 5: such thing.
Speaker 13: They all go to jail because every time Republicans make
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Speaker 13: not an alternative Marxist press. What's the point of having
Speaker 13: an alternative press? And they say the exact same thing
Speaker 13: as the regular press.
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Speaker 2: There is no alternative press, and there's no Marxist liberal
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Speaker 2: where where's the Marxist liberal press at the moment? MSNBC
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Speaker 13: Your go to prison asparrasy because they were in league
Speaker 13: with the DNC the same as they were with Nixon,
Speaker 13: and all them papers are out. Now I'm about sick.
Speaker 2: Of this craft.
Speaker 13: I want all political parties eradicated, but especially that Democrat Party.
Speaker 13: All they do is try to destroy this country over
Speaker 13: and over again since their god forsaken existence.
Speaker 1: And until we start to be founded.
Speaker 13: By and burn not Jackson taxons, by the economy by
Speaker 13: eliminating the bank. There's your origin story for the Democrat Party.
Speaker 1: Ah Jackson? Nice? Okay, fair enough.
Speaker 2: Anyways, until certain people start dying off, and until the
Speaker 2: profiteers are stopped here, we're just gonna have this fun
Speaker 2: for a while. You're gonna back the profiteers you like,
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Speaker 1: Tell you what.
Speaker 2: We're gonna take a little break because we haven't taken
Speaker 2: them on yet. We've been at it for a little bit.
Speaker 2: I haven't even looked at the chat room. I got
Speaker 2: somebody asking to join by a Skype. I got a
Speaker 2: few other things going on, but uh, I'm gonna put
Speaker 2: you guys on hold and we'll just take a little
Speaker 2: break and come back. Oops, that was not what I
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Speaker 2: That's unmuted. All right, let's see though I got everybody up.
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Speaker 2: take that break and if Jimmy wants to call back in,
Speaker 2: you can do that. And if not, I'll add somebody
Speaker 2: by a skype. We'll do some other things and to.
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Speaker 1: All right, so we're last thirty four minutes here.
Speaker 2: I ended up in a deep discussion with be Pete
Speaker 2: on the break instead of instead of getting everybody, but
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to everybody who's waiting to get on
Speaker 2: the show.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 1: And if you're calling in three one nine, five, two seven,
Speaker 1: five zero one six if you call in there, I'll
Speaker 1: get you in.
Speaker 7: Uh.
Speaker 2: Also, I got a Skype caller wanting to join, so
Speaker 2: I'll put him on, I guess, and uh, we'll hear
Speaker 2: from who we hear from anyway, be pete, what.
Speaker 1: Do you got to say?
Speaker 15: Uh?
Speaker 2: As we go a little further here, and I'm gonna,
Speaker 2: like I said, grab people up and get him on.
Speaker 3: Well, Jimmy, did Jimmy come back? Did he call back in?
Speaker 1: No, Jimmy hasn't called back in yet. But I think
Speaker 1: he's just pissed at me. But that's all right.
Speaker 3: Hey, have you noticed his phone has been better recently?
Speaker 2: Yes, a lot better. I don't know why, but somehow, Yeah,
Speaker 2: his phone equality is improved.
Speaker 1: By a lot.
Speaker 3: I don't know, because they took the tap of it.
Speaker 1: Ah something, you know. Let's see you participants, right.
Speaker 4: I'm glad you're not an insurance adjuster in southern California
Speaker 4: right now.
Speaker 1: That'd be busy. I'll tell you that much.
Speaker 2: But then again, yeah, I believe some people die and
Speaker 2: some people forget they had insurance, right, so let's see.
Speaker 3: Well, it's big hassle out there. I read an article
Speaker 3: the other day.
Speaker 4: People were wondering why state farm cancers seventy percent of
Speaker 4: the policies they had in the palace Age area, and
Speaker 4: it was because they wanted to raise premiums in the
Speaker 4: state wouldn't let them, so they said, okay, fine, which
Speaker 4: is drop the insurance.
Speaker 2: Yeah, well that goes on too a lot of times.
Speaker 2: When it's you know, time to pay. Then what are
Speaker 2: the insurance companies do? Woops, we're bankrupt.
Speaker 3: Well makes you well, they're going to go bankrupt on
Speaker 3: this one. Yeah, there's going to be several companies go bankrupt.
Speaker 4: The state's going to go bankrupt on their last ditch
Speaker 4: effort to provide insurance for people that lost their policies
Speaker 4: because of state policies they made the insurance companies decide
Speaker 4: to cut coverage.
Speaker 3: The vicious circle.
Speaker 4: I'm just wondering, if you know people are going to
Speaker 4: start waking up in the state of California.
Speaker 1: Well, it would be good if they did something about it.
Speaker 2: I'm having a little trouble with the skype, but I'm
Speaker 2: working on It's still to grab somebody in here, and
Speaker 2: we do have more than one caller on the line.
Speaker 2: I know Danny's waiting. I'm gonna bring him back in
Speaker 2: as soon as I can figure the Skype issue out.
Speaker 2: And you know, look, there's more going on than the
Speaker 2: fires right now though. And I find it interesting that
Speaker 2: even c SPAN has turned over one of their channels
Speaker 2: like all Trump all day. So that's interesting. Uh, you
Speaker 2: know the arrangement with c SPAN, like what they're supposed
Speaker 2: to do and everything, right, Well, you know they're supposed
Speaker 2: to be this this general sort of a public service
Speaker 2: out there that that's you know, it gets carried by
Speaker 2: cable for a minimal cost and satellite companies always picking up.
Speaker 2: That's why you got sea Span on everything.
Speaker 3: You know. Well, yeah, but I mean what I mean,
Speaker 3: what's been going on with c SPAN?
Speaker 2: Oh well, they're running these like twenty four to seven
Speaker 2: Trump marathons of like, you know, all of his candidates
Speaker 2: in their own words, and you know, anything he says
Speaker 2: they're covering, you know, even though he's not.
Speaker 1: In office yet.
Speaker 3: Well, Seaspan's always done.
Speaker 7: That though not like this, No, no, no, no, no no.
Speaker 2: They never ever ran everybody's stupid nominees for every freaking
Speaker 2: cabinet off.
Speaker 1: But come on, not everybody in their own words making speeches.
Speaker 4: Yes, yet they SPAN has Now you know your mainstream
Speaker 4: media is not going to do that now.
Speaker 3: That is one thing that we have found.
Speaker 4: That's been in the past four years is the total
Speaker 4: breakdown of legacy media.
Speaker 2: Okay, I bet I'll bet anybody you cannot find every
Speaker 2: cabinet appointment of Biden's in the archive at se SPAN.
Speaker 2: I bet you, And I also bet you can't find
Speaker 2: every cabinet appointee of Trump's the last time in the
Speaker 2: archive or of Obama's in the archive. I guarantee it
Speaker 2: that I watched carefully for news on exactly that kind
Speaker 2: of thing during all three of those transitions. This has
Speaker 2: never been like it is right now on CSPAN two. Never,
Speaker 2: So no, it is not the same. You've got to
Speaker 2: take a look at how they're covering it. They're letting
Speaker 2: them basically film their own videos and put them up
Speaker 2: there as an argument to put them in. It's like
Speaker 2: court briefings for the plaintiff over there. Anyway, Chris, I'm
Speaker 2: trying to add you, and you know what, I'm getting
Speaker 2: negative results from trying to add you, So I don't
Speaker 2: know what to do there.
Speaker 1: I can't have you call in that way.
Speaker 2: You might as well use the phone if you can,
Speaker 2: because I can't seem to add you via Skype. So
Speaker 2: that's that, and we do have I'm gonna bring Danny
Speaker 2: back on shortly. But you know what, I got another
Speaker 2: wireless caller here. Maybe I'll start with that one and
Speaker 2: then I'll bring Danny in afterwards. So let's see who
Speaker 2: is this on the wireless call?
Speaker 1: It's Harlan. Who's this?
Speaker 6: This is who's got the frown?
Speaker 1: What's that?
Speaker 9: You know who it is?
Speaker 1: Corn Bread?
Speaker 23: I said, you know who it is?
Speaker 1: Corn Bread? II gotcha?
Speaker 2: I keep forgetting this eight six five men here, Yeah,
Speaker 2: I can hear you you there, Yeah, all right, go ahead,
Speaker 2: throw down.
Speaker 8: Yeah.
Speaker 23: I was just I was listening to you guys talking
Speaker 23: caring during the break. I'm gonna try to get this out.
Speaker 8: I don't know how much longer I have signal, but BP.
Speaker 23: Give me a good idea, you know, just popped in
Speaker 23: my head. He's talking about, you know, indigenous people being
Speaker 23: taken advantage of just how how.
Speaker 3: Many generations digite.
Speaker 23: You have to be here in America to be to
Speaker 23: be Navy, to be indigenous Pete. I mean, I feel like,
Speaker 23: you know, the indigenous white cry.
Speaker 1: Uh oh.
Speaker 2: We might have lost Harlan's signal there. But b Pete,
Speaker 2: I don't remember you bringing up indigenous people in the break,
Speaker 2: did you?
Speaker 3: Yeah, when I made a comment about big oil conglomerates.
Speaker 1: Oh, big oil conglomerates.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, yeah, well all right, Daniel, there he is.
Speaker 1: Harlan's back. Sorry Harlan, you were gone for a minute.
Speaker 6: Yeah, yeah, may repeat this.
Speaker 23: I mean, how long the how many generations you gotta
Speaker 23: be here before you can get in on this ind.
Speaker 3: Just get me.
Speaker 23: That is a good question, mate, That is a good
Speaker 23: questions for you know, native white trash get in on
Speaker 23: the grip somewhere another.
Speaker 1: Yeah, my grandfather came here, so I don't think I'm
Speaker 1: you know, good.
Speaker 4: The white part of your trashiness came from somewhere in Europe,
Speaker 4: so you have to I think it's one thirty second
Speaker 4: is the cutoff for most tribal affiliations for Native Americans.
Speaker 2: One thirty second. Wow, So that means you could have
Speaker 2: one relative like fifteen generations.
Speaker 3: Second you figure no, you figure through the first generation
Speaker 3: at the quarter, and then you know order of it
Speaker 3: is the sixteenth and then those thirty seconds, so like
Speaker 3: three generations away, four generations?
Speaker 1: Oh okay, Well, that's not so bad.
Speaker 3: Oh, and that's from those tribal affiliation.
Speaker 1: Okay, so tribal affiliation, you got to have what.
Speaker 7: Four back.
Speaker 3: Something like that. Yeah, for white trash us.
Speaker 4: There's no indigenous white people on this continent apparently.
Speaker 1: Okay, so.
Speaker 4: You know, but this way, yes, there are indigenous white
Speaker 4: people on this continent. Now, but before you hit the
Speaker 4: white trash come over from Europe and ruin the neighborhood.
Speaker 4: It was all Native Americans, and you know, they don't
Speaker 4: really qualify as white so European. So if you go
Speaker 4: back and look, all of the white trashionists over here
Speaker 4: can be traced back to somewhere in Europe.
Speaker 1: You know, these people with the genealogy are crazy?
Speaker 22: Well what about this?
Speaker 1: But go ahead, Well, I was just going.
Speaker 2: To say, these people with the genealogy thing are crazy. Anyway,
Speaker 2: they shift things every couple of years. I was in
Speaker 2: the middle of a discussion with a guy about genealogy,
Speaker 2: and I was talking to him about the right of return,
Speaker 2: right to different countries. People have different rights of return,
Speaker 2: okay and uh and and he was talking about, you know,
Speaker 2: the people where I live, basically in Georgia. He said,
Speaker 2: you know, at a certain point there you had the
Speaker 2: King of England basically sending nothing but criminals and mental
Speaker 2: patients to Georgia. And I'm like, I don't remember reading
Speaker 2: that anywhere, but somehow he claims that that's exactly what
Speaker 2: ends up populating uh Georgia at a certain point. And
Speaker 2: it's a whole lot of them are Irish, by the way,
Speaker 2: So there's a whole lot of this Irish ancestry that
Speaker 2: got dropped off here while the King of England still
Speaker 2: controlled Georgia. And according to this guy, like I said,
Speaker 2: and I meanwhile, I was talking to him about the
Speaker 2: right of return to Italy because even though Italy wasn't
Speaker 2: a country, you know, as a certain point, there only
Speaker 2: just a freshly minted one. When my grandfather was born,
Speaker 2: he came over here. So but I still have a
Speaker 2: right of return as long as I can prove that heritage.
Speaker 2: And a lot of other people do that are here
Speaker 2: in America. You've got rights to return to a lot
Speaker 2: of different countries if you can prove your ancestry right.
Speaker 2: And you guys were talking about this indigenous thing, and yeah,
Speaker 2: that's for tribal affiliation, that's you can get a cut
Speaker 2: up a government check. Actually, if you could prove anything
Speaker 2: higher than a thirty second I think, right, is.
Speaker 4: That the color You got to be conne You have
Speaker 4: to be accepted by a tribe, you have to be
Speaker 4: considered a tribe member.
Speaker 1: Right. But nonetheless, there are people that are living in
Speaker 1: other parts of the country. They are getting checks.
Speaker 2: Because there was a guy that lived near me that
Speaker 2: was like, you know, had this He's like, oh, I'm
Speaker 2: Native America. What part because I don't see any of it.
Speaker 2: Guy looked like, you know, like he was from the
Speaker 2: nineteen seventies, white guy. But apparently you have enough.
Speaker 3: That's it off the reservation. Since he was like three,
Speaker 3: he still gets a cut.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. This guy said to me.
Speaker 3: Cherokee.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he was like a baby on the reservation at
Speaker 2: some point. But then you know, wound up out and
Speaker 2: just out and about for the next thirty years and
Speaker 2: then somehow ends up.
Speaker 3: With a chess guys except the Eastern man Cherokee. That's
Speaker 3: why he gets his check from the casino gets So
Speaker 3: that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: He winds up with a cut from some casino. I
Speaker 2: don't even know what tribe's from. But you know, but
Speaker 2: he looks like white Man tribe to me. I mean,
Speaker 2: he definitely does not look any Native American at all.
Speaker 2: But whatever, you know, I'm not gonna argue with blood tests.
Speaker 23: Hey jacket, that might have been big chief shitty, I said,
Speaker 23: with the no wifele tribe.
Speaker 1: You know from the trailer parks. He did live in
Speaker 1: a trailer park, carl And I'll give you that.
Speaker 3: Are you go?
Speaker 13: There you go?
Speaker 23: I mean, hell, everybody in the he's Tennis Layton, North Georgia,
Speaker 23: and you know Eastern in Czech in Southwest Virginia and Parks,
Speaker 23: North Carolina. Hell, all of you know park Cherokee or
Speaker 23: tart luncheon one you know, to hear tell it. And
Speaker 23: I've only saying that I've got a friend to start
Speaker 23: my luncheon. But there's very few of them you can
Speaker 23: actually believe.
Speaker 1: Yeah, missus owas part Cherokee apparently, so.
Speaker 6: I make no money, you know, I mean, there you go.
Speaker 1: See that was the one exception.
Speaker 23: Take your back, Yeah, I know, I gotta I gotta
Speaker 23: be careful back to New Jersey.
Speaker 2: Look, I gotta be careful because you know, here's the thing, right, uh,
Speaker 2: the one thing my father told me, is like everybody
Speaker 2: else in the world except the Native Americans are in
Speaker 2: your bloodstream.
Speaker 1: You know that. This is what he told me.
Speaker 2: It's like, the only people not in your bloodstream is
Speaker 2: those people, but everybody else is if you're Sicilian.
Speaker 1: And I said, okay, you know.
Speaker 6: And allegedly.
Speaker 23: I'm supposed to have, you know, Cherokee on one side
Speaker 23: of my family. But you know here again, I mean
Speaker 23: I always kind of felt ashamed to run around.
Speaker 9: You know, saying that.
Speaker 23: But you know wide as you know snow.
Speaker 1: So yeah, well you know where I used to hear
Speaker 1: that garlic.
Speaker 2: It's usually not white guys that are claiming that, right,
Speaker 2: But you know what used to be when I was
Speaker 2: a kid a lot is if you saw a black
Speaker 2: guy who had some straight hair, Like if his hair
Speaker 2: was straight and it wasn't you know, processed or nothing,
Speaker 2: it was just naturally kind of not so kinky, it
Speaker 2: would always be he's part Indian. Yeah, everybody would say
Speaker 2: he's part Indian. I mean that's what they called him,
Speaker 2: you know, Native American now, but Indian is what we
Speaker 2: used to call them, right, So yeah, he's part Indian.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 23: The graded eye word, boy, I mean, it's worse than
Speaker 23: the bucking in word some circles, you know, Yes, I know,
Speaker 23: I man hell like cow them Indians. So the last
Speaker 23: ten and the base Clain's about the last ten years.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I understand. Look the first twenty thirty years of
Speaker 2: my life, they were Indians. You know, it was cowboys
Speaker 2: and Indians.
Speaker 23: Right, Yeah, what cowboys and nineties it's cowboys and Indians.
Speaker 1: Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It was a native native nothing,
Speaker 1: it was just you know, Indian. So anyway, well you
Speaker 1: guys have a good week in.
Speaker 23: I'm on to cut out of here before I leave
Speaker 23: you Segon, let let Danny get back on and see
Speaker 23: if you can't get get that scap Kyle around.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'll try again. I keep trying, but there's some
Speaker 2: kind of weird thing going on with that guy Skype
Speaker 2: and you know him. But anyway, I'll let you go, Harlan,
Speaker 2: we'll talk soon.
Speaker 8: Oh.
Speaker 2: Anyhow, let's see Danny. You're still hanging. Are you fall
Speaker 2: asleep on us yet?
Speaker 8: Oh? No, no, no, well you're on your break. I
Speaker 8: went down and grabbed a beer and my wife had
Speaker 8: reheated some OsO buco from the night before, so I
Speaker 8: was chaling on that nice halftime at Ohio's your college
Speaker 8: football fan in Ohio State fourteen, Texas seven in the
Speaker 8: college football playoffs.
Speaker 1: So what's the line on that game? Anybody? Anybody know
Speaker 1: the line on that game? What's what? What's supposed to be?
Speaker 8: You know, I'm not a gambler, so I never got
Speaker 8: into like the line on it. I did see because
Speaker 8: Notre Dame. I'm a big Notre Dame fan. They won,
Speaker 8: so immediately I saw the line.
Speaker 24: If if they play Ohio State next week, it's Ohio
Speaker 24: State by eight and Chexas by three. So I don't
Speaker 24: I think Ohio State's pibly the favor would be my gas.
Speaker 1: Just yeah, just taking a look at the game. Okay,
Speaker 1: hey when is uh? No, we have a wait? The
Speaker 1: super Bowl already happened, right, No, people.
Speaker 8: Pody in February. They're just starting the playoffs.
Speaker 1: Oh, that's the playoffs start. You see how adam it
Speaker 1: I've been.
Speaker 2: I don't even know what the hell's going on. I
Speaker 2: know they have some special Christmas Day games on Netflix
Speaker 2: or something, but I didn't know.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I know they moved one of the playoff games
Speaker 8: that was going to be in La there, moving into
Speaker 8: Arizona because of the fires down south, so makes sense, which, yeah,
Speaker 8: so that I know that's going on. Yeah, I'm you know,
Speaker 8: one of the things I've lived long enough is the
Speaker 8: concentration of all the all the media, you know, you know,
Speaker 8: ever since they did the the Telecommunications Act under the
Speaker 8: Clinton administration. I mean, you know, I remember it was
Speaker 8: the very left saying, hey, you're going to lose independent
Speaker 8: media and all these you know, because it's kind of regulated,
Speaker 8: and it's like, I think only like five six major,
Speaker 8: very wealthy companies on all the media so much. I
Speaker 8: don't think they're Marxist. I don't think they're Marxist. And
Speaker 8: I and those that you know, I know, the right
Speaker 8: lights always caller Marxist because I don't think anybody's ever
Speaker 8: read Marx. I've read Marx twice, all three volumes, and
Speaker 8: that didn't make me a Marxist. I don't believe in
Speaker 8: the land, economy, parties.
Speaker 3: Media, well, a lot of these media companies hire Marxists.
Speaker 2: See it's more about the mouths. It's more about the
Speaker 2: mouthpiece and the business.
Speaker 4: Plans capitalistic as inconvened. But they put a lot of
Speaker 4: Marxists in their chairs behind their computers.
Speaker 1: Right, Look, you wouldn't call it Ted Turner a Marxist,
Speaker 1: but right, I Look, but.
Speaker 3: I called ninety percent of the staff at CNN Marxist.
Speaker 1: That's interesting there.
Speaker 8: They're capitalists, CNN, CNN has supported thereby war. They're commercial driven,
Speaker 8: they're very wealthy, they're they're they're just this capitalists. They're
Speaker 8: just a different version of capitalists.
Speaker 2: It's the business model versus the mouthpiece, Danny, That's what.
Speaker 2: It's the business model versus the mouthpiece.
Speaker 1: That's all.
Speaker 8: But how is it? But how is that Marxism? I mean,
Speaker 8: it's you know, I remember starting in the seventies, don't
Speaker 8: believe the liberal media that started under Nick and I
Speaker 8: remember that under the Nixon administration, and the big complaint
Speaker 8: was they didn't want anybody speak out against war. And
Speaker 8: CNN has always touted every war. They've always supported every war.
Speaker 8: Go back to the first go for that. I remember
Speaker 8: when CNN is on them always and they didn't like
Speaker 8: the civil rights movement. You know, they have problems with this,
Speaker 8: So they said, don't believe that the liberal media. They've
Speaker 8: always had a problem with it. You know, I get
Speaker 8: it if you if you don't agree with certain, you
Speaker 8: know media outlet, that's fine, but let's this, it's just
Speaker 8: kind of laziness to just call their Marxist. And I
Speaker 8: don't mean to insult to anybody, but you know, why
Speaker 8: don't we just discuss the issues and having awness debate
Speaker 8: about it.
Speaker 9: Does that make sense?
Speaker 1: Well?
Speaker 3: Yeah it does.
Speaker 4: But if you listen to these people on CNN, if
Speaker 4: you listen to the people on the programs, forget, forget
Speaker 4: the business end of it, just the people that are
Speaker 4: there giving there because news is not news anymore.
Speaker 3: They'll report on a war, but now you have people
Speaker 3: that are giving you their opinion on the war and
Speaker 3: their opinion on this, and their opinion on that, and
Speaker 3: most of those mouthpieces their opinions, if they're not Marxist,
Speaker 3: they're flat out communists.
Speaker 1: So you haven't noticed a shift in the past six months.
Speaker 8: Commony, Okay, okay, hold on the communists. It's different from
Speaker 8: a Marxism and communists once actually of a actual revolution
Speaker 8: and to bring in absolute socialism or or communism.
Speaker 3: Absolutely, that's what I say that a Marxist bull fledged communists.
Speaker 3: I know there's a difference between the two, and I different.
Speaker 8: Yeah, I'm I'm they're not even closed. And they're all capitalists.
Speaker 8: I mean, I've read Adam Smith's Wealth the Nations that you.
Speaker 6: Know, it's there.
Speaker 8: They're all in it for a profit. They get paid
Speaker 8: high salaries. And then the other thing too, The biggest
Speaker 8: criticism I have CNN is they have a really small viewership,
Speaker 8: you know, I mean there's a boarding the out pardon
Speaker 8: they do now.
Speaker 3: At one time they led the.
Speaker 2: Market, yeah, but they were almost out of business in
Speaker 2: twenty fifteen. They were almost at a business in twenty fifteen,
Speaker 2: which is hilarious because they grew under Trump perfectly. Yeah,
Speaker 2: That's that's what they grew under because that content is
Speaker 2: what they thought would sell. Now, as we go into
Speaker 2: this new administration, you really should tune back in with
Speaker 2: an open mind, BEP, because I'm telling you now they're
Speaker 2: normalizing everything. There's no more it is complaining about him.
Speaker 2: That's gone gone, even the people that used to dedicate
Speaker 2: whole hours to it and everything else.
Speaker 1: I mean, you know, there's no Don Lemon there either.
Speaker 1: So remember that.
Speaker 2: But the other thing, because his whole thing was, you know,
Speaker 2: look one hour Anti Trump and one hour how racist
Speaker 2: is America? And that was his old show this is
Speaker 2: a whole different animal. It's hilarious. They're like very serious
Speaker 2: about well this is the serious talking.
Speaker 3: But you're talking about CNN. You still have MSNBC that's
Speaker 3: about to be sold out from NBC. Yep, they're about
Speaker 3: to get rid of it.
Speaker 4: I mean, you look at thes part of MSNBC, and
Speaker 4: you know why they lean the way that they do
Speaker 4: because of the money that Bill Gates first put up
Speaker 4: to get them going.
Speaker 3: But they're about to be sold yep.
Speaker 4: I mean it's you look at these individual outlets. Yes,
Speaker 4: there may be five major companies that control all of
Speaker 4: the media. Okay, that's fine, but what they're putting out
Speaker 4: there is.
Speaker 3: Changing because people are tired of listening to what they
Speaker 3: listened to for the past four years. How many news
Speaker 3: agencies back when.
Speaker 4: There were three major networks would have handled Joe Biden's
Speaker 4: mental situation the way it was covered up this time,
Speaker 4: all of a sudden, the media, well you know what
Speaker 4: it's you know, they noticed this a long time back.
Speaker 4: You people knew it a long time back, and you
Speaker 4: tipped it as hidden as much as you could. And
Speaker 4: anytime someone from the other sides came out and said,
Speaker 4: look at this evidence of Biden being completely mentally deficient.
Speaker 3: Oh that's a it's been an altered video. Well, they're
Speaker 3: taking this out of context. This that went on for
Speaker 3: four years and people finally said screw it and they
Speaker 3: stopped watching.
Speaker 1: You know, was going to lose.
Speaker 3: You see it changes as the result of that.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you know it's going to lose big during this though,
Speaker 2: is Fox News because they're no longer going to be
Speaker 2: the only outlet for the for the Republican out.
Speaker 8: Do you you remember the RA you know, they they
Speaker 8: totally blacked out that war. And I remember as a kid,
Speaker 8: you could go to three networks and you saw the
Speaker 8: Vietnam War on TV. They're going to damn sure that
Speaker 8: you didn't work going to see that again.
Speaker 1: Because they were with each other then, they were competing
Speaker 1: with each other.
Speaker 2: Look in this way they have become communists, and that
Speaker 2: is that they all have decided to just divide up
Speaker 2: the spoils. There is no longer competition. That's that's an
Speaker 2: illusion at this point. This is collusion as opposed to competition.
Speaker 2: When they were trying to scoop each other, when they
Speaker 2: were trying to you know, figure out look, we got
Speaker 2: we got the real deal here and everything else that
Speaker 2: pushed them to go against what was being dictated to them.
Speaker 2: And you know what, some of them wanted to fall
Speaker 2: in line. That's great if you want to just you know,
Speaker 2: you want to put the blinders on, you know where
Speaker 2: to go. You don't want to put the blinders on,
Speaker 2: you know where to go.
Speaker 4: So but now one of the FOSSA talking about media
Speaker 4: and they were talking about this TikTok case where it
Speaker 4: was heard in the Supreme today, and they.
Speaker 3: Were talking about, well, you know, Elon must should buy it.
Speaker 4: And they made a comment that, well, we can't have
Speaker 4: China owning a communication in this country because of you
Speaker 4: know the possibilities of this, and that we don't need
Speaker 4: a foreign actor owning.
Speaker 3: Something like that. And I thought, who the hell is
Speaker 3: Rupert Murdoch? He owned Fox? Yeah, he owns is it
Speaker 3: the New York Post?
Speaker 1: Look, he bought the New York Post? Hold on, he
Speaker 1: bought the New York Post.
Speaker 2: He put up Fox News and then he created a
Speaker 2: TV network out of independent stations, buying them up all
Speaker 2: across the country bps.
Speaker 3: Major media pundits.
Speaker 4: Yeah, making a comment like we can't have a platform
Speaker 4: like that owned by and foreign entity. And I'm thinking,
Speaker 4: if it wasn't for Rupert Murdoch, you wouldn't have anything
Speaker 4: with the name Fox on.
Speaker 1: It right now, right.
Speaker 3: You know, these people don't even listen to themselves. They're
Speaker 3: so stupid.
Speaker 1: Listen.
Speaker 2: I can't argue with you there. You want to complain
Speaker 2: about foreign ownership, you start there?
Speaker 8: Yeah, yeah, good, yeah, I agree, Yeah, look at look
Speaker 8: at the foreign I guess it depends on the foreign ownership.
Speaker 8: If you don't like that's it happened to Look what
Speaker 8: happened when they got rid of the fairness doctrine where
Speaker 8: it used to be, you know, talk radio. It's all
Speaker 8: the same parroting the same right wing narrative. I I
Speaker 8: just couldn't stand it. Yeah, but no objectivity.
Speaker 2: But the homogenous nature here is not a right wing conspiracy.
Speaker 2: The homogenous nature here is that you now have like
Speaker 2: two companies buying every damn radio station.
Speaker 1: This is how I got knocked over in terrestrial radio.
Speaker 1: I was on like nineteen affiliates.
Speaker 2: And the thing is they were all small, and they
Speaker 2: all got swept up during the same time period because
Speaker 2: they do these massive sweep ups. And then iHeartRadio Clear
Speaker 2: Channel and one other owns everything everything. It's a complete monopoly.
Speaker 2: And you know, I had this idea in my head
Speaker 2: that America was not about allowing monopolies to prevail.
Speaker 1: But I guess so it's okay as long as you
Speaker 1: like them. Anyways, Jenny let me.
Speaker 3: Yeah, people, they have gone out on their own.
Speaker 4: Green Glenn Greenwall, he left and went to another company,
Speaker 4: and then left that company, finally went on his own. Matteabi,
Speaker 4: he's going to sub stack these individual these truly independent
Speaker 4: journalists out there are going to these other places to
Speaker 4: put their product out there, and it's catching on.
Speaker 1: Yeah, well that's why Tucker Carlson's doing his own thing too. Anyways.
Speaker 1: And Bill O'Reilly, Bill O'Reilly's trying to make his way
Speaker 1: with the news nation. Now. I got another wireless caller here.
Speaker 1: I'm not sure who it is. Uh five A weight
Speaker 1: looks like area code.
Speaker 6: Hi, am I on the ear?
Speaker 1: You are?
Speaker 6: Does anyone think that Trump's going to pardon these January
Speaker 6: sixth people? I forgive me if anyone already answered this.
Speaker 2: I don't think anybody talked about that right now? Yeah,
Speaker 2: I I I don't think anybody talked about that yet.
Speaker 1: Be Pete, what do you think.
Speaker 3: I think he's going to.
Speaker 1: Yeah, I think he'd.
Speaker 2: Better because if he doesn't, that's that that's gonna show
Speaker 2: a very very bad hand.
Speaker 1: If he doesn't, I don't know if he's young good well,
Speaker 1: I think he's.
Speaker 4: I mean they say he said, you know, we need
Speaker 4: to go through it on an individual basis, and I
Speaker 4: think that's what they're going to look at. I mean,
Speaker 4: guys that were actually assaulting cops in that. I don't
Speaker 4: know if they'll be included, but the majority of them, yeah,
Speaker 4: are going.
Speaker 3: To get a pardon.
Speaker 1: There you go. I don't know what to make of it.
Speaker 2: I think this is going to be an interesting experiment
Speaker 2: because you see no no consequences, no restraints on this guy.
Speaker 2: Now you're going to find out what he's really all about.
Speaker 2: So I don't know if he's really going to do
Speaker 2: that bother with it or not, or only do selective ones.
Speaker 2: I don't know he'd be smart to wells.
Speaker 6: Can I ask you one thing?
Speaker 1: Yeah, go ahead.
Speaker 6: You may have already brought it up earlier in the program.
Speaker 25: I'm only joining Mike in the last ten minutes, But
Speaker 25: how are you doing from your hospitals?
Speaker 6: Then if you don't mind me asking.
Speaker 2: Well, it took me about a month to get back
Speaker 2: on the air even to sit up straight and begin
Speaker 2: to eat. Dropped about thirty pounds, as I mentioned at
Speaker 2: the beginning of the show, and I'm not in great shape,
Speaker 2: but I don't know what the hell hit me. Something
Speaker 2: just took me out for a little while there. So
Speaker 2: I've been off the air and unable to do a
Speaker 2: damn thing for weeks. But I'm trying to get back
Speaker 2: at it. That's what I'm doing right now.
Speaker 1: And so this is the person.
Speaker 6: I just want to say that I'm glad that you're
Speaker 6: back on the air.
Speaker 2: Yeah, and I realize who you are, and I know
Speaker 2: that you were in bad shape too, And I don't
Speaker 2: know the details because I got everything second and third hand.
Speaker 2: But this is Chris Graves obviously, guys, and you know,
Speaker 2: I don't know where things stand with you or anything else,
Speaker 2: you know, things that were not parted between you and
Speaker 2: the company.
Speaker 6: But I almost died.
Speaker 25: I don't know what your situation was, but I'm just
Speaker 25: glad that we're both still kicking, if that means anything.
Speaker 2: Well, honestly, I thought I was about to go myself too,
Speaker 2: So yeah, I understand that you went through you know,
Speaker 2: you went through an accident. I went through a weird
Speaker 2: accident before I went to Dallas. I got hit by
Speaker 2: a guy on a bicycle. And I know that sounds stupid,
Speaker 2: but you know, a two hundred and something pound guy
Speaker 2: on a bicycle slam in India while you're walking down
Speaker 2: the road. Apparently I took some hits equal to an
Speaker 2: MBA anyway, but I kind of recovered from that, I thought,
Speaker 2: and then something took me down after I came back
Speaker 2: from Dallas.
Speaker 1: So I don't know. I don't know, man, I have
Speaker 1: no idea where my health is going. I have no
Speaker 1: idea what hit me. But I at a certain point
Speaker 1: thought I might not make it. But but I'm still here.
Speaker 6: Oh, I'm just glad that you're still with us.
Speaker 1: Well, you know, I'm glad you here it too.
Speaker 2: I don't know what you and I are gonna wind
Speaker 2: up having to talk about, but we're gonna obviously have
Speaker 2: to have a talk off here, okay at some point.
Speaker 6: Well, I just want I just want.
Speaker 25: I want to know that Chuck Ochhilly, he's uh someone
Speaker 25: that's for free speech, and uh, I appreciate the fact
Speaker 25: that you're still with us.
Speaker 1: Thank you, man, I appreciate that, and uh, I hope
Speaker 1: that you continue to recover. You still in the hospital.
Speaker 6: You they kicked me out on New Year's Eve, and
Speaker 6: that's a whole situation. I'm trying to get a lawyer
Speaker 6: for all that thang that that whole situation.
Speaker 1: Well, good, get what you can get.
Speaker 6: I don't I don't know if that's going to go anywhere.
Speaker 1: Well, do what you can. The system is not kind
Speaker 1: to people like us, But do what you can. Man.
Speaker 2: I I don't know a horrible thing. I don't know
Speaker 2: exactly what happened to you, but uh, we're we're almost
Speaker 2: out of time tonight.
Speaker 25: I hear the telephone, Paul, and I I rolled my
Speaker 25: car three or four times and I was kind of
Speaker 25: out with the lights, and I guess we'll go from there.
Speaker 6: It's about it.
Speaker 2: Well, I have survived one of those in the past,
Speaker 2: but not at this age. I don't know if I
Speaker 2: could do it at this age. So apparently you still
Speaker 2: have some work.
Speaker 6: To do here. So oh, a lot of work ahead
Speaker 6: of me. And like I said, thank you for taking
Speaker 6: my call. I appreciate it.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 2: I tried to take you earlier on Skype. By the way,
Speaker 2: but it just was not allowing me. So my apologies
Speaker 2: there just would not Yeah, no, I'm not the.
Speaker 25: Most technically Yeah, my technical stuff. My computer was in
Speaker 25: the car with me when I rolled. Okay, so it's
Speaker 25: probably something to do with my computer. But I appreciate
Speaker 25: you trying to get me on with Skype.
Speaker 1: Okay.
Speaker 2: Well, I just want to let you know I wasn't
Speaker 2: trying to hold you off. It's just that I wouldn't
Speaker 2: like I didn't think. So Okay, anyway, you and I'll
Speaker 2: have to have a talk at some point. I guess
Speaker 2: maybe we'll try over the week under something, depending on
Speaker 2: what condition I'm in. I got a presa, I gotta
Speaker 2: I gotta produce aroon show in the next couple of
Speaker 2: minutes here, So I'm gonna let you go. But I'm
Speaker 2: glad to hear that you sound a lot better than
Speaker 2: I thought you would considering what was reported to me
Speaker 2: about your condition.
Speaker 1: So good. Continue to recover, all right, and like I said,
Speaker 1: you are to talk at some point. Okay, thank you.
Speaker 1: You take care absolutely.
Speaker 2: So that was Chris Graves everybody, So I want to
Speaker 2: give the final word to be Pete tonight. Uh as
Speaker 2: for what I usually like to try and do when
Speaker 2: I realize that we're running out of time.
Speaker 1: What's on your mind? Be Pete, go ahead.
Speaker 4: Well no, I'm just glad we were able to do
Speaker 4: it so and get back in a swing of things.
Speaker 4: I appreciate everybody calling in tonight, Danny and and uh,
Speaker 4: Jimmy and Chris and and Dan and uh, crap, I
Speaker 4: just drew blank. It's okay, truck driving friend. Oh oh oh, Harlan, Oh,
Speaker 4: God knows I was right on tick of dog, although
Speaker 4: I couldn't think of it anyway.
Speaker 3: Appreciate everybody calling in and looking forward to doing it
Speaker 3: next week. And I would ask everybody to go to
Speaker 3: Shelley dot com and hit the donate button. Do it
Speaker 3: you can.
Speaker 1: Well.
Speaker 2: I appreciate that too, because quite honestly, I wouldn't have
Speaker 2: been able to remain hydrated at home or to even
Speaker 2: get back up without some of the help that's come in.
Speaker 2: It's not been a lot, but you know what, it's
Speaker 2: a lot better than nothing, and I really appreciate it,
Speaker 2: especially considering I wasn't on air and wasn't producing for
Speaker 2: a bit. My apologies there, but I'm telling you I
Speaker 2: could not get it together. Coming up next on the network, though,
Speaker 2: we're gonna go live with the Age of Transitions and
Speaker 2: I think the Uncle Show. Here's a spoiler, by the way,
Speaker 2: The Uncle Show is going to be very much devoted
Speaker 2: to UAPs and maybe there's gonna be some guests on there.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know.
Speaker 2: You guys are gonna have to tune in and check
Speaker 2: it out. That'll be the next hour. But coming right
Speaker 2: up now will be the Age of Transition with Aaron Franz.
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