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Speaker 1: Hello everybody, and welcome back to these Surely you can't

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be serious podcast. I am here with my best friend

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Dee Graves, and we are talking about the effing Prince

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of Darkness himself.

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Speaker 2: Dunham, Dunham, Dunham.

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Speaker 1: Hey, Hey, we are talking about Ozzy Osbourne and we

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are comparing his No More Tears album to the Aerosmith

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album that we heard last week. Get a grip the

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seventies rockers who have finally gotten sober and produced some

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great albums of the nineties. Oh no, bats were harmed

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during the recording of this podcast.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so this is gonna be great. We are comparing

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a rock god of the seventies to another rock god

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of the seventies, but albums that they both produced in

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the nineties.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 2: So our story begins in August of nineteen eighty nine,

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when Ozzy is sent to prison for the second time,

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this time for attempted murder.

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Speaker 1: This blew me away. Yeah when I heard this.

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Speaker 2: Before we get there, though, we need to go back

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about forty years and get the history leading up to

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that moment.

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Speaker 1: Let's do it, all right.

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Speaker 2: So John Michael Osborne was born December third, nineteen forty eight,

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which means he's alluding my dad. Yeah, it's crazy.

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: His first job was in the music industry, was it. Yes,

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he was a tuner for car horns.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know car horns had to be in tune,

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but apparently it's a.

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Speaker 2: Very important Yeah. You don't want to have it a

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flat sounding no? Okay, no little sharp, dark platt Okay,

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got it perfect right there?

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Speaker 1: Me me.

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Speaker 2: His second job was at a slaughterhouse, which becomes relevant

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later on in his life. And then he went to

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prison for the first time, and it was for stealing

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a black and white TV from a little shop that

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didn't work. I mean he chunked it out the window

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of the shop, which is probably why it didn't work.

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But all he had to do was pay a forty

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dollars fine, but his dad said, I'm not paying that fine,

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and so what he did instead was get picked up

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on the warrant and spend four weeks in prison.

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Speaker 1: Forts No, I'll take the jail time.

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Speaker 2: Total lesson from dad. There, thanks a lot, Dad. So

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just not too long after that, he had himself a

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blue transistor radio, hopefully that he purchased as opposed to stole,

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and he heard the song She Loves You by the Beatles,

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and he said, I need to be in the music industry.

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So in nineteen sixty eight, he had been in the

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music industry for a brief period of time and Tony

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Eyomi sees an advertisement at the local music shop. It

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says Ozzie Zig needs a gig, has own PA. And

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it was that has own PA that caught his attention.

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This story familiar to you.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, this is just like van Halen, right, yep. They

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got the brothers hired David Lee Roth because he had

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a PA. Ozzy Osbourne and David Lee Roth hired because

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they had their own PA.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. And so they went to the address to talk

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to the guy and Eomi when Ozzy came out from

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another room, he saw who it was, he turned around,

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he walked out because he had known him from their

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school days together and he was just a pest and

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he was like, I don't want to work with this guy.

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But fortunately the PA system won him over. Yah yess,

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and they decided to he had a killer PA.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: So Tony Eomi was guitarist. But before this meeting takes place,

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before Tony Eomi meets Ozzy Osbournen for the first time

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he's working in the factories. They all come from Birmingham,

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which is a factory.

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Speaker 1: Town Alabama, not Alabama, And I thought that was a funny.

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Speaker 2: Actually yeah, right, And so he's he's playing guitar. He

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enjoys the guitar, but he's got to work a real job,

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and his real job is to be a welder at

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a metal factory. And so he would weld after another

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guy would cut the metal and send it down to him. Well,

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one day he shows up. He's thinking, this is my

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last day here because I just got a paying gig

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as a member of a band. I'm super excited. Right,

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So when he gets there, the other guy whose job

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it is to pass him the cut metal isn't there,

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and so they're like, okay, we're going to have you do.

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It's like I don't really know how to. They're all right,

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we'll teach you. And so he's like, I can't believe

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this is happening on my last day here. They show

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him how to cut the metal. He goes home for lunch.

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He tells his mom He's like, I'm not going back.

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I've got this paying gig coming up, but I don't

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need the job. I'm not going back. And his mom's like,

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you're going to do the right thing, and you're going

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to go back to that job and finish like you should.

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And so he goes back and he's cutting the metal

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and all of a sudden comes down on his fingers

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left hand. He pulls back and pulls the tops of

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his fingers off. Oh no, and so music career over

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apparently at that point, right, Oh my gosh. Yeah, And

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so he's rushed to the hospital. He's just got little

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nubs of bone sticking out of the end which they

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cut off. He's I mean, to this day, he's missing

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those fingers, and so he's distraught and a friend comes

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to him and says, you can't give up. He's like,

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what do you mean, I've got no fingers And he's like,

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just listen to this, and he plays in this music

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by Django Reinhardt, and he's like, why you know, are

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you trying to make me feel bad? This is great,

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this guy's obviously great, and I can't do this. And

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he's like, this guy doesn't have the ends of his

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fingers either. It's nice, okay. So he melts down these

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little like soap bottles and makes plastic ends that he

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polishes down, uses a soldering iron to put the hole

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so that his fingers can fit in, figures out that

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to put some leather on the end so that he

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will grab the strings. Yep. And for the last fifty

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years he's been a guitarist with fake fingers. He keeps

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all of his little fake fingers in his finger box.

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Speaker 1: That is cool, the finger box.

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Speaker 3: Yeah sweet.

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Speaker 2: So he and bill Ward had been together in a

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band called Mythology. Bill Ward's the drummer. When they go

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to get Ozzy, Ozzy brings along Geezer Butler, who had

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been in the band Rare Breed together and Geezer had

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been a guitarist, a rhythm guitarist. But Tony Yomi was like, no,

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I don't want another guitarist in the band, and he's like, okay,

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I guess I'll play the bass then, And so his

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first time to play the bass was actually on stage

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at their first gig with a borrowed bass that had

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only three strings on it. But again, fifty years, yeah,

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he's still playing the bass, that's right. So the name

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of that original band was called the Polka Tulk Blues Band. Yeah, yeah,

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Poka band. I totally see how a blues polka band

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became Black Sabbath.

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Speaker 1: Is that insane, It's crazy wow.

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Speaker 2: And so for that original band, they had a guy

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playing the slade guitar, just like the Blues. They had

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a guy play in the saxophone. It was Jimmy Phillips

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was their slide guitarist. Alan Aker Clark was their saxophone player.

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And after a little while they're like, hey, guys, we're

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splitting up the band. See you later. And then those

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guys didn't get the memo that actually we're putting the

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band back together. We're reforming. Five minutes later, we're reforming

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as a now, and we're going to call ourself Earth, which,

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as he hated. At this time, you've got all the

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flower power music going on, right, the San Francisco hippie thing,

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and these guys from their industry town, they're still working town.

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We're like, this is not our scene, right, And so

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they had an entirely different idea how to go now

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for about two months. You only quit December of sixty eight,

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he quit and joined Jethro Toll really yes, and like

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they made him get up in the morning and go

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to practice, like he had to practice was at nine.

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that experience he learned the work ethic that probably led

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to Black Sabbath being the success that it was. Interesting.

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So nineteen sixty nine, they're practicing. They happened to be

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across the street from a movie theater and they notice

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people keep paying money to go in and see these

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scary movies.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and so their idea was, if people enjoy being

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scared watching scary movies, then we ought to make scary music.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: They invented the genre that we know today is heavy metal.

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Speaker 2: Yeah. So it's funny because they hated the term heavy metal.

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It had nothing musical about it. Honestie said, I'd rather

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be called hard rock than heavy metal, because what does

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that mean. You know, now everybody that has a guitar

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at a bass and drums is a heavy metal band.

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back in the seventies was different. It is different. So

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they had decided to do scary lyrics. Geezer had started

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studying the occult, which didn't go over real well for

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his Catholic upbringing, and he had also developed an interesting

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classical music and so one day while he's practicing, he's

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trying to figure out this music from Gustaf Holtz Mars

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from the Planets. Okay, listen to that real quick. When

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he comes back the next day, Eomi has a guitar

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riff that sounds very similar to what he had been

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trying to figure out. Yeah, and they're like, oh, wait,

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this is a whole new song. We can make this

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a song. And then they're like, hey, what do we

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call it? Hey, let's call it the thing that's in

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the theater across the street, Black Sabbath.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I think that has Boris Karloff in it.

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Speaker 2: Yep, that's the one nineteen sixty three movie. And so

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that's what they named song, Black Sabbath.

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Speaker 2: And then they say that's what we should name the band.

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Wait a minute, what album?

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Speaker 3: Ah?

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Speaker 2: Yes, they got a record deal. Yes, so they are

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big time now. They get paid one thousand dollars to

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make a record.

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Speaker 2: So they make the record Black Sabbath in two days,

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: And the second day they spent mixing. The first day

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was was all the recording. They did almost everything live

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almost everything in one take. They had Ozzie in a

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separate room, but they all played and sang at the

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same time.

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Speaker 1: Twelve hours, twelve hours.

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Speaker 2: Incredible, and they produced one of the most iconic albums

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in history. The album is released February Friday, the thirteenth,

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nineteen seventy. Oh. So they start touring. Okay, the album

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is hated by the critics but loved by the fans,

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right right. And so they get back from touring and

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they see Black Sabbath in the UK album charts and

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they go, is there another band named Black Sabbath? No idiot,

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that's us. So just a few months later, June nineteen seventy,

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they start recording their second album. They spend an astronomical

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amount of time on this one, a whole six days.

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This time. It's an album you might have heard of.

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It's called Paranoid. So this one was originally supposed to

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be called War Pigs. There's even kind of this picture

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of a war pig looking thing on the front of

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the album, and Warpigs has to do with their hatred

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for Vietnam. But Warner the record company changed the name

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to Paranoid, kept the picture, changed the name a little weird.

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But of course it's again the same story. They've reached

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the end of the album, they don't have enough songs,

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and then Tony Yomi's playing some guitar lick and they go, hey,

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that sounds good, let's do that, and that in twenty

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to twenty five minutes later becomes the song Paranoid Wow.

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Paranoid gets released as a single in September of nineteen

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seventy shoots up to number four on the UK Singles.

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The album comes out the next month, it hits number one.

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And with these songs War Pigs, Paranoid, Iron Man, they're

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seeing success like they've never seen, which means they're realizing

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their biggest fear. They're becoming a pop band. So album

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number three, they spend more time in the studio and

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they get a briefcase full of money for drugs. Oh good, Yeah, yes,

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because that's what you do in the seventies for your bands,

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is you give them drugs and more time to record.

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Speaker 1: It's part of the recording budget, you know.

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Speaker 2: So Master of Reality comes out in nineteen seventy one,

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It goes gold in two months. It has acoustic songs

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for the first time, it's got a couple of crowd favorites,

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Child of the Grave and Sweet Leaf, and they're continuing

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to rock. On albums number one and two, they were

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sober because they didn't have any money to buy.

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Speaker 1: It, any money drugs.

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Speaker 2: Right, So they were going to name album number four

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snow blindness. Can you guess what that's about?

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Speaker 3: Cookie?

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Speaker 2: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Right?

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Speaker 2: Came from the song that's about doing cocaine. The record

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label was like, no, you won't, and so that album

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is just called Volume four without a Volume one through three.

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it still went gold in less than a month. This

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is their fourth consecutive album to sell a million copies. Wow,

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the drugs were so prevalent by this time that Ozzy

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can't remember recording some of the albums. Yeah, And it's

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amazing because he said almost the exact same thing that

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Joe Perry said. He said, we went from being a

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rock band messing with drugs to a drug band messing

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with rock. It's incredible. I mean, the storylines parallel.

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Speaker 1: The fact that these guys emerged the other side of

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this drug problem to produce what they produced in the

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nies is truly remarkable.

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Speaker 2: Well, it wasn't without some scars. Have you heard Ozzie talk?

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Speaker 1: I can't wait to get into the scars. My gosh, gosh,

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the stories that this guy can tell. He truly is

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somebody who has seen and experienced it all.

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Speaker 2: Right, And as long as you can catch every third

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or fourth word you get an idea. Oh yeah, So

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we're onto album number five. They go back to la

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where they had done Volume four, except they get there

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and the room they had recorded in is taken up

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with this giant synthesizer and they can't come up with anything.

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They're tired, they're drug addult, no good is coming from anything.

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they end up going back to England to a place

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called the clear Water Castle. It's a recording studio that

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has been used by Matt Hoopel Deep Purple, White, Snake

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Queen and where Led Zeppelin recorded their last album in

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Through the Outdoor Wow. They rehearsed in dungeons at this

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castle nice, which is where he came up where Eomi

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came up with the riff for Sabbath, Bloody Sabbath, which

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of course that's what became the name of the.

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Speaker 1: Album Sabbath Bloody Sabbath.

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Speaker 2: What was interesting to me. I love the band, Yes,

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I think they're fantastic band. They brought the Yes keyboard

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just In Rick Wakeman to be a part of the album.

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Awesome Sabbath Bloody Sabbath comes out and it's their fifth

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platinum More Money for Drugs, which means album number six

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and not so much. It doesn't tank, but it doesn't

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do as well as the other ones had. And then

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in December, to kind of make up for that, the

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record label decided we're going to release the greatest hits

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album called We Sold Our Soul for Rock and Roll,

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which they did without getting any input from the bandital Wrong,

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Yeah wrong. Next album is Technical Ecstasy. At this point,

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Ozzie is losing interest. The album is done and Ozzy

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gets committed to the Stafford County Asylum.

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Speaker 3: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the drugs have gotten pretty bad. Yes, the drinking

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has gotten really, really bad. In nineteen seventy seven, Ozzy

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quits really yeah okay, and so they're scrambling. They have

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things coming up in the next two days, and so

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Tony Yomi gets Dave Walker from Fleetwood Mac who is

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a friend of his, to come in and be their singer,

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and Dave Walker says later on I ran into Ozzie

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at a pub and I could tell he wasn't fully

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committed to leaving the band. And sure enough, nineteen seventy eight,

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Ozzy rejoins the band, but he says it's just to

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get money from the record label and to get fat

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on beer and put out.

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Speaker 1: An album YEP that sounds like Ozzie.

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Speaker 2: So after he rejoins the band, days later they're in

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Toronto recording Never Say Die. This is nineteen seventy eight.

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They go on tour. Do you know who they're opening?

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Banded Van Halen? There you go wow. So that is

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when we tie back to one of our earliest episodes

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on the Van Halen Boys, where Van Halen is showing

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up Ozzy Osbourne and.

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Speaker 1: Black Sabbage loaded yep, drug addl Ozzy Osbourne.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And final show of that tour is Ozzie's final show

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with Black's abam right until they reunite in the late nineties.

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So his drug use had gotten so bad that in

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nineteen seventy nine, at the behest of their manager Don

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Arden Don Arden, they fired Ozzie. Now Don Arden had

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come along Midway through this Ozzie's stint with Black Sabbath,

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and it didn't go well because he was taken over

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for their old managers, who then served Ozzy papers while

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he was on stage during a live performance. What Yeah,

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And then you know, two years of litigation follows that.

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Speaker 1: Hey, you know what, you absolutely know where he's going

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to be at that moment. Other than that, you may

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not know where he's going to be.

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Speaker 2: Right. So they had been with Don Arden for a

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while and Don was tired of Ozzie's stuff, and so

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they said you're done, and they bought him out of

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the band for ninety six thousand pounds. And his idea was,

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I'm going to go to a hotel room and snort

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and drink every last shilling of it. Yeah. But then

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Don's daughter, Sharon Arden steps in. Yes. Now, she and

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Ozzy had met nine ten years earlier when she was

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just a receptionist at Don's office, little eighteen year old

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kid basically, But by this time she's grown up and

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she thinks she can save him, and she.

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Speaker 1: Does, yeah thankfully multiple times.

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Speaker 2: So interestingly, Sharon is the one who suggested Ronnie James

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Dio from Rainbow to be the replacement singer for Ozzy

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for Black Sappen. That is interesting, that is crazy, right,

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And then after a little bit of time passes, Don

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Arden starts waffling. He's like, now, maybe we should get

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Ozzie back in the band. But at this point, Sharon

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and Ozzy have begun dating, and she's like, nope, I'm

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going to manage him and I'm going to make him

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a success. And it was through her that the Blizzard

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of Oz band was formed. We got Lee Hurslake on drums.

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We've got Bob Daisley on bass who had been with Rainbow. Yes,

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We've got Don Airy on keyboards, who had also been

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with Rainbow. Okay, like they you know, they intermingled, swapped wives, yep, yep.

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And then drum roll please, from the band Quiet Riot.

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Speaker 1: Comes Randy Rhodes.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, so that Blizzard of Oz band name they decided

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to change into the album name and give Ozzy Osborne

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full credit despite the fact that this is a phenomenal band.

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Speaker 1: Yes, but hey, I heard that was the record company

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that decided to do that.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, ok right, got it. So at this point, they

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release Blizzard of Oz and they have to go meet

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the folks at CBS Records.

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Speaker 1: Let's go do a meet and greet with the suits.

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This is where the stories to me start to really

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take off. Oh my gosh, hey, you've got coked out, drunk,

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bloated Ozzy, who's a star. I mean, he is a star.

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Speaker 2: Right, but CBS Records has been managing the Jackson five

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up at this point.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 1: So Sharon has this idea. I've got a great idea.

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They don't know who you are, so we need.

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Speaker 2: To make an impression.

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Speaker 1: Here's what's gonna happen. You're gonna put two doves in

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your pocket, and when when I bring you in, we're

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gonna say, and here is Ozzy Osbourne. You're gonna pull

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the doves out of your pocket and release them. They're

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gonna fly away, and it's gonna make this wonderful impression.

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Speaker 2: Peace offering.

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Speaker 1: It's a peace offering. So before this all happens, Ozzie

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comes and he sits down on the knee of like

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one of the girls in.

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Speaker 2: The she's the room. She's the head of publicity.

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Speaker 1: Yes, she's the head of publicity. Yeah, So he sits

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on her knee, he pulls out the doves. The doves

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are kind of.

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Speaker 2: She's she's irritated. I mean he's he's drunk out of

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his mind. I mean, at eleven am, what do you

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expect he's He's like, I'm well drunk and Cavassia I

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just wint right. And so he's drunk. He's sitting on

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her lap. He's not a light guy at this point.

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Speaker 1: He's a big guy.

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Speaker 2: The doves are like pecking and flapping in his pockets.

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He hasn't even taken him out right, So he's drunk high.

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She's screaming. He's irritated, and so his solution.

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Speaker 1: Is, I'm gonna pull this dove out of my pocket

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and bite its head right off.

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Speaker 2: So she loses it.

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Speaker 1: She's like screaming her head off.

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Speaker 4: And and really these suits are like, who is this

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devil we brought in here?

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I've seen have you seen the picture? There's a

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blood like trickling down his chin. Yeah, And he's like, ah,

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you know, I mean, just craziness.

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Speaker 2: It didn't go quite the way that he planned.

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Speaker 1: So they are repulsed and angry.

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Speaker 2: They have security come up and escort them out of

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the bill.

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Speaker 1: Get this psycho out of here, right, So.

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Speaker 2: They get a call from the lawyers and they say,

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we're not going to terminate the contract. We're not going

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to do that. We're going to end you.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 2: By the way, all of this happened on the same

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day that Blizzard of Oz was really which includes did

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a track he might have heard of called Crazy Train.

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Speaker 1: This was the release day of Crazy Train. And so

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this event happens the same day that Crazy Train drops.

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Six days later, it's like number one on the Hot

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Rocks charts. And they call them up and they say,

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we knew you guys were something special when you came

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into the office.

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Speaker 2: Wait it go. So that's the Dove thing. And so

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at that point, all of Ozzie's fans thought he was

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into killing animals. I guess yeah, And so they would

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throw stuff at him on stage.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, like frogs and rats and mice and rabbits and

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all kinds of stuff.

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Speaker 2: And occasionally they would throw a plastic bat.

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Speaker 1: This is the stuff of legends here. So Buddy throws

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a bat on the stage.

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Speaker 2: So he picks it up. He thinks it's one of.

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Speaker 1: Those rubber flap around stupid toy bats. It's not. It's

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not even dead. It's still alive. He says. It bit him.

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So then he bit the head off the bat. Okay, yeah,

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so you know it's this big thing. Sharon says she

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saw the fur still in his mouth. She's like heaving,

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grossed out. They leave the show. They're on the road

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and they realize that bat was alive and bitch, you've

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got to get Raby shots. So I heard him talking

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about you like Raby shot is not fun.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, he hasn't quit drinking or doing drugs at this point.

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Speaker 1: He hasn't quit biting the head off animals either.

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Speaker 2: You know, well, it just maybe in the haze, it's

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hard to tell a rubber from fur.

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Speaker 1: So just just to recap, the dovehead incident happened March

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twenty seventh, nineteen eighty one. The bathhead incident happened January twentieth,

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nineteen eighty two. Okay, yep, on February the nineteenth, nineteen

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eighty two. I've got a story for you. So they're

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in San Antonio for a show at the like the

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like the County Fair. I mean it's not like it's

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not like the big place, right. So Ozzie is drunk

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and high. Sharon does not want him to get out,

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but she's got to go do publicity responsibilities whatever. So

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she hides his clothes so he can't leave. But Ozzie's

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too smart for us, So what does he do.

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Speaker 2: He puts on a dress, He puts on.

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Speaker 1: Her dress, and he rolls out of the hotel drunk

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as can be. So he's gonna get down a jug

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out Lamu. So he goes down to the Alamo and

470
00:26:47,960 --> 00:26:52,559
he realizes, well, crap I got a pee, so he

471
00:26:53,200 --> 00:26:56,279
this is broad daylight on zips, takes it out and

472
00:26:56,440 --> 00:27:01,200
peas on what they call the Cenotaph, which is inside

473
00:27:01,240 --> 00:27:04,720
the Alamo Plaza. It's not the Alamo per se. People

474
00:27:04,720 --> 00:27:07,079
always say he PE's on the Alamo. But he takes

475
00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,240
a leak on the Cenotaph, which is a grave basically

476
00:27:10,240 --> 00:27:12,720
a big grave monument to all those who fought and

477
00:27:12,759 --> 00:27:13,119
died at.

478
00:27:13,039 --> 00:27:15,039
Speaker 2: The alamossing on your grave.

479
00:27:16,160 --> 00:27:19,000
Speaker 4: You know how Texans take this type of thing. You

480
00:27:19,039 --> 00:27:22,200
know how people of San Antonio would take this personally. Yeah,

481
00:27:22,279 --> 00:27:28,240
so he's arrested, yep, right, he pays a forty dollars fine, they.

482
00:27:28,079 --> 00:27:31,160
Speaker 1: Get him out. He plays the Fair or whatever that night,

483
00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:36,200
but he is banned from playing San Antonio until nineteen

484
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:38,640
ninety two the No More Tours tour.

485
00:27:39,119 --> 00:27:44,359
Speaker 2: Wow, So second album that Ozzy Osbourne releases as a

486
00:27:44,440 --> 00:27:47,400
quote unquote solo act, still with the same band, still

487
00:27:47,640 --> 00:27:52,960
mostly written by Kerslake, still fantastic leads by Randy Rhodes

488
00:27:53,000 --> 00:27:55,480
that qualify him as one of the greatest guitarists of

489
00:27:55,519 --> 00:27:58,480
all time. Right, that one's Diary of a Madman.

490
00:28:07,519 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: Okay, so yeah. So in nineteen eighty one he releases

491
00:28:10,440 --> 00:28:12,839
Diary of a Madman for Me Flying High again. That's

492
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:14,200
the song that everybody knows.

493
00:28:14,240 --> 00:28:19,440
Speaker 2: So we are recording on March nineteenth. It is exactly

494
00:28:19,920 --> 00:28:23,720
thirty nine years ago that there was a tragedy. Yeah,

495
00:28:23,759 --> 00:28:26,319
and we lost one of the greatest guitarists of all time. Yes,

496
00:28:26,920 --> 00:28:30,920
March nineteenth, nineteen eighty two, the band was in Florida

497
00:28:31,079 --> 00:28:33,640
for the Diary of a Madman tour. They were a

498
00:28:33,640 --> 00:28:37,039
week away from playing Madison Square Garden in New York City.

499
00:28:37,240 --> 00:28:41,079
And Andrew Acock, who was the band's tour bus driver,

500
00:28:41,960 --> 00:28:44,839
owned some land near the area, also was a pilot

501
00:28:44,920 --> 00:28:48,279
and he was basically having some fun, yeah, driving people

502
00:28:48,319 --> 00:28:53,240
around in the plane. And he got Randy Rhodes and

503
00:28:53,559 --> 00:28:57,039
the band's costume and makeup designer whose name was Rachel

504
00:28:57,079 --> 00:29:00,319
Youngblood to come up with the plane with them. He

505
00:29:00,359 --> 00:29:03,519
thought it would be funny if they buzzed the tour.

506
00:29:03,319 --> 00:29:05,359
Speaker 1: Bus, yes, where Ossie was asleep.

507
00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:09,119
Speaker 2: Sleep Yeah. And so as he attempts to buzz the

508
00:29:09,119 --> 00:29:15,599
tour bus, his wing actually cuts into the bus, causing

509
00:29:15,640 --> 00:29:19,440
the plane to graze a tree and crash in the

510
00:29:19,480 --> 00:29:25,039
garage of a big mansion nearby, killing Rhodes, Acock and

511
00:29:25,079 --> 00:29:25,599
young Blood.

512
00:29:25,799 --> 00:29:34,200
Speaker 1: Tragedy. Yeah, you can see anybody who's young twenties with money. Hey,

513
00:29:34,279 --> 00:29:36,680
let's get in the plane. We're gonna buzz the tour bus, right,

514
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:40,079
this is gonna be hilarious and then clip and then

515
00:29:40,200 --> 00:29:41,400
crash and then fireball.

516
00:29:41,720 --> 00:29:41,920
Speaker 2: Yeah.

517
00:29:42,599 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 1: Tragic.

518
00:29:54,039 --> 00:29:54,319
Speaker 2: Yeah.

519
00:29:54,359 --> 00:29:57,240
Speaker 1: So after Diary of Madmen in eighty one, we have

520
00:29:57,319 --> 00:30:00,319
Bark at the Moon in nineteen eighty three. The Moon

521
00:30:00,400 --> 00:30:01,920
is kind of the main song that you may know

522
00:30:02,000 --> 00:30:05,440
from that. After that you have The Ultimate Sin in

523
00:30:05,480 --> 00:30:08,480
eighty six that song, so you've got shot in the dark,

524
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,279
Ultimate Sin, and then in eighty eight we get No

525
00:30:11,319 --> 00:30:12,079
Rest for the Wicked.

526
00:30:12,279 --> 00:30:16,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. And just so that we're clear on where Ozzy

527
00:30:16,440 --> 00:30:19,000
Osbourne is at that point, he was also in the

528
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:22,279
Decline of Western Civilization, Part two, The Meddle Years. Yeah,

529
00:30:22,319 --> 00:30:26,640
and he told the director, sobriety fing sucks.

530
00:30:26,720 --> 00:30:28,920
Speaker 1: Yeah, you forgot to mention one thing. Go ahead on

531
00:30:29,039 --> 00:30:33,519
January fourth, nineteen eighty two, Ozzy Mary's Sharon Arden.

532
00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:39,599
Speaker 2: Through those albums you had several guitarists. Eventually Ozzie finds

533
00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:45,200
Zach wild through auditions, who ultimately becomes the most enduring

534
00:30:45,240 --> 00:30:52,200
replacement for Randy Rhoades. Rhodes remains Wild's foremost guitar playing

535
00:30:52,359 --> 00:30:56,960
and stagecraft influence. They have a very similar style, the

536
00:30:57,400 --> 00:31:01,480
style of their guitars similar but to other Zach Wilde,

537
00:31:01,599 --> 00:31:04,559
Ozzy Osbourne and the rest of the band record No

538
00:31:04,680 --> 00:31:09,559
Rest for the Wicked. It's to You on drums, Sinclair

539
00:31:09,599 --> 00:31:13,160
on keyboards, Daisley co writing the lyrics and playing bass,

540
00:31:13,359 --> 00:31:16,400
and then Geezer Butler comes back and plays bass with

541
00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:17,640
him for a while during the tour.

542
00:31:18,319 --> 00:31:19,319
Speaker 1: Nice Yeah.

543
00:31:19,359 --> 00:31:22,759
Speaker 2: He does a live EP called just Say Ozzy, which

544
00:31:22,759 --> 00:31:25,279
has Geezer on it, which was released a couple of

545
00:31:25,319 --> 00:31:29,920
years later. So nineteen eighty nine, that's when I really

546
00:31:29,920 --> 00:31:32,119
get introduced to him for the first time. There's a

547
00:31:32,160 --> 00:31:35,079
weird thing that happened during the eighties where like everybody

548
00:31:35,200 --> 00:31:37,519
thought that people were in a satanic cult. Do you

549
00:31:37,559 --> 00:31:41,119
remember that? Like it was every youth.

550
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:44,720
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, no Ozzy Osbourne.

551
00:31:44,759 --> 00:31:46,440
Speaker 2: For me as a little kid at that point, I

552
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,759
don't even remember my parents ever saying one word about

553
00:31:48,759 --> 00:31:51,000
Ozzy Osbourne. It was just the perception that I have

554
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:56,119
was this guy is embracing the satanic thing that everybody

555
00:31:56,200 --> 00:31:58,839
is so scared of right now, staying away from him.

556
00:31:59,480 --> 00:32:02,599
So eighty nine, I'm a little more mature at that point,

557
00:32:02,680 --> 00:32:05,200
I'm hitting thirteen fourteen, I'm starting to open my eyes

558
00:32:05,240 --> 00:32:07,039
a little bit. And then I catch this.

559
00:32:07,279 --> 00:32:13,000
Speaker 1: Your eyes are not closed forever, Your eyes are open.

560
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:13,599
Keep going.

561
00:32:14,559 --> 00:32:17,640
Speaker 2: And so I catch this video with this really kind

562
00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:20,599
of hot, slightly trashy looking girl playing guitar, and I'm

563
00:32:20,640 --> 00:32:24,680
like hey, And then I'm like hey, Ozzy Osbourne singing.

564
00:32:24,759 --> 00:32:28,200
He he doesn't look like the devil. This is okay.

565
00:32:28,279 --> 00:32:39,319
This song is beautiful. Yeah, gets a sad, don't really stands.

566
00:32:38,880 --> 00:32:39,480
Speaker 3: On mine.

567
00:32:40,400 --> 00:32:43,519
Speaker 1: It's a great guitar song with Ozzy and Leda.

568
00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,680
Speaker 3: He's in my head way.

569
00:32:52,240 --> 00:32:54,240
Speaker 1: So this it was my introduction to you, and I

570
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:57,480
kind of talked off air. I was very aware of

571
00:32:57,559 --> 00:32:59,440
who Ozzy Osbourne was, but I don't think I really

572
00:32:59,519 --> 00:33:02,079
knew any of his music. But this is where I

573
00:33:02,319 --> 00:33:05,319
jump on board with closed my eyes forever. This song

574
00:33:05,400 --> 00:33:07,920
peaks at number eight on the US Hot one hundred.

575
00:33:08,200 --> 00:33:09,000
I mean, it's a big hit.

576
00:33:09,240 --> 00:33:13,799
Speaker 2: Yeah. And so now Ozzie is hanging with all of

577
00:33:13,920 --> 00:33:17,480
Doc McGee's bands when they decide to go over to

578
00:33:18,319 --> 00:33:20,480
Moscow and do a little thing that we've talked about

579
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:21,400
a couple times now.

580
00:33:21,519 --> 00:33:25,359
Speaker 1: Yeah, we have called the Moscow Music Piece Festival, just

581
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:30,559
to recap. On this tour, you have bon Jovi, skid Row, Cinderella,

582
00:33:30,759 --> 00:33:35,359
Motley Crue, Ozzy Osbourne and the Scorpions, and Gorky Park, Yeah,

583
00:33:35,480 --> 00:33:37,680
and maybe the CIA and maybe the CIA.

584
00:33:37,759 --> 00:33:41,680
Speaker 2: Different story, different story, all right. So then he comes

585
00:33:41,759 --> 00:33:46,519
home from the Moscow Music Piece Festival and we're back

586
00:33:46,799 --> 00:33:47,559
to where we begin.

587
00:33:47,720 --> 00:33:51,759
Speaker 1: Keep in mind, the Moscow Music Peace Festival is all

588
00:33:51,839 --> 00:33:56,279
about no drugs, right, right, get kids off drugs right.

589
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,680
And we talked before Motley Crue was the only band

590
00:33:58,720 --> 00:33:59,680
that was sober, which is.

591
00:34:00,119 --> 00:34:03,319
Speaker 2: Easy laughable irony on top of irony. Yes, So he

592
00:34:03,480 --> 00:34:07,920
comes home and is obviously heavily on drugs and drinking

593
00:34:08,079 --> 00:34:10,840
quite a bit. He goes to bed early that night. Yes,

594
00:34:11,199 --> 00:34:17,159
Sharon stays up. They have had a let's say, tumultuous relationship.

595
00:34:17,400 --> 00:34:19,679
They are very in love with each other, but it

596
00:34:19,800 --> 00:34:23,480
is very passionate whether they're matt or not. So they've

597
00:34:23,519 --> 00:34:24,360
had their scuffles.

598
00:34:24,800 --> 00:34:27,599
Speaker 1: If you've ever seen the view with Sharon Osborne, yeah,

599
00:34:27,800 --> 00:34:30,519
you can tell this woman can be very stubborn and

600
00:34:30,719 --> 00:34:34,639
difficult paining the butt and she's got she's very intelligent.

601
00:34:34,199 --> 00:34:34,360
Speaker 3: You know.

602
00:34:34,480 --> 00:34:37,239
Speaker 2: As it happens, that got her in some trouble right

603
00:34:37,320 --> 00:34:40,159
now at this moment. But we're not talking about that.

604
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:42,559
But if we do not talk about those things, let's

605
00:34:42,599 --> 00:34:44,480
slide past that. We're going to move on past that.

606
00:34:45,440 --> 00:34:47,880
So back in August of eighty nine, he goes to

607
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:52,039
bed early. She's staying up reading a book. And then

608
00:34:52,760 --> 00:34:55,880
a couple hours later he comes down in his underwear. Yeah,

609
00:34:56,239 --> 00:34:59,039
and he sits down across from her and he says,

610
00:34:59,360 --> 00:35:02,280
I'm really so sorry about this, but we've made a decision,

611
00:35:02,599 --> 00:35:03,880
and you have to die.

612
00:35:04,119 --> 00:35:05,119
Speaker 1: We've made a decision.

613
00:35:05,199 --> 00:35:08,400
Speaker 2: We've made a decision, speaking of the Prince of Darkness,

614
00:35:09,599 --> 00:35:11,440
We've made a decision, and you have to die. And

615
00:35:12,320 --> 00:35:16,360
she just thinking, you know, he's in his drug addle whatever,

616
00:35:16,840 --> 00:35:19,119
is about to say piss off. But before she can

617
00:35:19,239 --> 00:35:23,599
get past the pith, he's on top of her, choking

618
00:35:23,679 --> 00:35:26,880
her out. Yeah. They're throwing each other back and forth.

619
00:35:27,440 --> 00:35:30,039
All she can think about is, please, don't let the

620
00:35:30,119 --> 00:35:32,840
kids see me die like this, you know, don't let

621
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,679
this be the way that it goes. They roll a bit,

622
00:35:36,079 --> 00:35:38,960
a coffee table gets taken out, and as it happens,

623
00:35:39,559 --> 00:35:42,800
they've got panic buttons in their home, in every room.

624
00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:46,719
She hits the panic button just before she loses consciousness.

625
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:50,679
When she wakes back up, she can't find him. He's gone.

626
00:35:51,239 --> 00:35:53,559
Speaker 1: She doesn't want to look for him. Who knows where

627
00:35:53,599 --> 00:35:56,119
he is, probably taking a leak on some monuments somewhere.

628
00:35:57,159 --> 00:36:01,199
And the police show up and they give me into custody.

629
00:36:01,119 --> 00:36:03,159
Speaker 2: For attempted murder.

630
00:36:03,360 --> 00:36:04,559
Speaker 1: I had not really heard this story.

631
00:36:04,719 --> 00:36:07,320
Speaker 2: Now, have you seen The Wolf of Wall Street? Yes,

632
00:36:08,119 --> 00:36:11,719
so you know the scene with the car when the

633
00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:15,159
queludes kick in. Yes, and he goes to sleep and

634
00:36:15,280 --> 00:36:18,199
thinks he made it home. Okay, Yes, from what I've

635
00:36:18,199 --> 00:36:20,559
heard from Ozzie, it's kind of that same thing, Like

636
00:36:21,320 --> 00:36:24,199
I went to sleep when I got home and I

637
00:36:24,280 --> 00:36:27,840
woke up in jail. Yeah, he has no memory of

638
00:36:28,039 --> 00:36:31,280
what went on, and she was done with him for

639
00:36:31,400 --> 00:36:31,719
a time.

640
00:36:32,199 --> 00:36:37,960
Speaker 1: I feeling happy, I feel so sad.

641
00:36:40,920 --> 00:36:48,639
Speaker 2: I've lost the best friend could I ever have. At

642
00:36:48,679 --> 00:36:52,360
the behest of everybody, appropriately should have been done with him.

643
00:36:53,000 --> 00:36:56,440
But after six months and him being in rehab and

644
00:36:56,519 --> 00:36:59,599
cleaning himself up, and her saying this wasn't him, this

645
00:36:59,760 --> 00:37:02,480
was the drugs that did this, she decided.

646
00:37:02,119 --> 00:37:02,639
Speaker 3: Not to leave them.

647
00:37:02,639 --> 00:37:05,440
Speaker 2: A pretty incredible woman really. Yeah. As it turned out,

648
00:37:05,960 --> 00:37:08,079
he produced an album a little bit later on which

649
00:37:08,079 --> 00:37:09,119
we're here to talk about the day.

650
00:37:09,400 --> 00:37:09,559
Speaker 3: Yes.

651
00:37:10,480 --> 00:37:14,159
Speaker 2: So during the eighties, Yeah, there was this kid whose

652
00:37:14,320 --> 00:37:17,320
dad belonged to a record club, you know where you

653
00:37:17,480 --> 00:37:20,719
just get the mail, Yes, of course, and his dad

654
00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:24,400
would leave these records unopened, you know, they just come

655
00:37:24,440 --> 00:37:26,920
in the mail and the unopened. So finally one day

656
00:37:26,960 --> 00:37:29,119
he's like, heck, I'm just going to take these and

657
00:37:29,239 --> 00:37:31,119
he opens them all up, and this is where he

658
00:37:31,280 --> 00:37:36,679
discovers Black Sabbath and gets into the hard rock of rock.

659
00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:37,239
Speaker 3: Yeah.

660
00:37:37,679 --> 00:37:42,000
Speaker 2: Yeah. Ironically, the same week that No More Tears is released, Yeah,

661
00:37:42,400 --> 00:37:46,079
he releases what some might call a breakthrough album with

662
00:37:46,199 --> 00:37:50,039
his band Nirvana called never Mind.

663
00:37:50,239 --> 00:37:54,400
Speaker 1: Wow, that is interesting. The BMI CD clubs and this

664
00:37:54,519 --> 00:37:56,559
and that I still owe them, like, you know, one

665
00:37:56,639 --> 00:37:58,199
hundred and seventeen dollars or whatever.

666
00:37:58,079 --> 00:37:59,920
Speaker 2: They still think. My name is Mark Laar, Mark.

667
00:38:03,239 --> 00:38:07,239
Speaker 1: Chilandeler Bong. No More Tears and never Mind are released

668
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:07,840
the same week.

669
00:38:08,079 --> 00:38:11,400
Speaker 2: Yeah. On the same day, Guns and Roses released as

670
00:38:11,480 --> 00:38:12,639
USEU Your Illusion one and two.

671
00:38:12,840 --> 00:38:16,079
Speaker 1: What a day? Yeah, what a day for hard rock fans. Yeah,

672
00:38:16,320 --> 00:38:18,519
you get two from Guns n' Roses, Yeah, and No

673
00:38:18,639 --> 00:38:19,559
More Tears from Ausie.

674
00:38:19,679 --> 00:38:19,840
Speaker 3: Yeah.

675
00:38:20,119 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 2: And the same day that Nevermind came out, Red Hot

676
00:38:23,400 --> 00:38:27,280
Chili Peppers also released Blood Sugar Sex Magic, which is

677
00:38:27,920 --> 00:38:30,920
my opinion best album that they had. So yeah, September

678
00:38:30,960 --> 00:38:34,440
of nineteen ninety one was an incredible month for music.

679
00:38:34,679 --> 00:38:38,960
Speaker 1: That was the same month that I started college. I

680
00:38:39,159 --> 00:38:41,920
do remember leaving the dorms and going to the local

681
00:38:42,000 --> 00:38:45,920
record shop and seeing lines of people lined up to

682
00:38:46,000 --> 00:38:47,400
buy usual Illusion.

683
00:38:47,079 --> 00:38:49,880
Speaker 2: One and two. Yeah for sure. All Okay, are we

684
00:38:49,960 --> 00:38:51,079
ready to jump into the album.

685
00:38:51,320 --> 00:38:55,400
Speaker 1: Let's jump into the album next time. Next time we're

686
00:38:55,400 --> 00:38:57,159
gonna go track by track through No More Tears. We're

687
00:38:57,159 --> 00:38:59,599
gonna talk about the stories behind the songs kind of

688
00:38:59,639 --> 00:39:02,480
the story of the tour. And then we're gonna do

689
00:39:02,519 --> 00:39:04,880
our final judgment, which is better Aerosmiths Get a Grip

690
00:39:05,159 --> 00:39:06,800
or no more tears Come back.

691
00:39:07,320 --> 00:39:08,159
Speaker 2: We'll see you next week.