Speaker 1: When your old career gives you lemons throwing some ice
mix in some vodka. Color a podcast from the Mac
of All Trade Studio in Fairport and driven by Victor
Chrysler Dots. Gee, Ram, It's Bilified the Bill Moran Podcast.
Speaker 2: Well, hello and welcome. Thanks for getting your pot on.
Thank you for telling a friend. That's how we spread
the word. It's funny dandy. Uh, I'm hearing that voice
in there. The cameras keep going on and off, so
we'll just kind of roll with it here.
Speaker 3: But rolling blackouts.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess it's having trouble connecting. This often is
caused by unstable internet connections.
Speaker 3: Thanks New York State. Those windmills ain't working.
Speaker 4: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 3: I don't know what that is.
Speaker 4: So, uh, Harry Leg is the voice that I use.
Speaker 3: When your old career gives you libits, right.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 3: I know a guy who could impersonate Harry Leg for
half the price if you want.
Speaker 4: Is his name Dan? Yeah, so Harry.
Speaker 2: I'm I don't know why I was up. I couldn't
really sleep the other night, and I make the mistake
of looking at my phone whenever I get into bed.
Speaker 4: There's probably a bad habit to do.
Speaker 3: Do you have blue blockers?
Speaker 4: I do have blue blockers.
Speaker 3: You should put them on at about seven o'clock at.
Speaker 4: Night, really, yes, okay, so okay.
Speaker 3: And then when you get to bed, turn off the
Wi Fi and your phone.
Speaker 4: I turn I put it on an airplane mode.
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that's what I do. Turn off the Wi Fi. Yeah,
you'll sleep better, folks. So a little tip from Dan.
Speaker 2: So I get a message from Harry. Hey Bill, it's
like Harry leg Vo and I don't I don't think.
I wasn't even drinking, so it just makes no sense.
But he's got one follower. I go, oh, Harry, I
think Harry's been on, so let me see if I
can find it, because there was like a back and
forth exchange. And remember I told you about the other
scam I got. Yes, okay, so here we go. Uh yeah, Harry,
no leg Vo. So I don't even know if that's him,
but voiceover and Harry does a lot of radio stations
around the world. He's on in Australia and he's doing
stuff for the UK, and I think, uh, you know,
mostly obviously English speaking countries.
Speaker 3: But so.
Speaker 2: I stupidly go all right, uh, he rates Hello, it's
and it may be like one o'clock in the morning,
and I'm not probably adderall took it too late in
the day and I'm not sleeping well.
Speaker 4: So I say, uh, what's up, Harry? How are you?
Speaker 2: And he writes back, AM fine, And then a while later, Hey,
what is Wyd?
Speaker 4: Do you? Would you? I don't know what that is?
Speaker 3: What you do?
Speaker 2: I don't know, Hey, Wyd, I hate to ask, but
I don't know who else too?
Speaker 4: Can I ask a favor?
Speaker 3: Okay? Somebody hacked into his talk?
Speaker 2: And then I don't. I don't answer it all and
I unfollowed immediately immediately, and I'm like, what is going on?
There's like so many attempts. And then I meant to
call Harry himself and go, hey, dude, that's fucked up.
That's somebody, just to let him know somebody hacked him.
And maybe I don't know, maybe they.
Speaker 3: What you're doing? What are you doing? Wyd? What are
you doing?
Speaker 4: What are you doing?
Speaker 3: That's still a little strange. If they have one follower, Yeah,
that's a.
Speaker 4: Lot of the whole things, like can go how dumb?
Speaker 3: Am I right?
Speaker 2: Like?
Speaker 4: How dump we talk about scams and shit, I go,
what am I doing? And I don't Maybe I was delirious.
I think I was up late studying.
Speaker 2: I have no idea, and sometimes I have this thing
and I'm I'm learning this about myself. H I finally
get I finally understand Dennis Rodman.
Speaker 3: Why he needed a vacation. I fucking he was playing
with the bulls. They're going for a six championship.
Speaker 4: I totally fucking get it.
Speaker 3: Dennis needs a vacation, right right. I took that personally.
Michael Jordan the yeah, Phil, if he goes to Vegas,
we'll never get him back.
Speaker 2: Here's the thing, dude, he I totally get it because
remember during that time Pippen was out. Yes, Rodman stepped
up and he poured himself into it, and Michael in
the documentary goes, he was awesome. He would he fit right,
and he did the whole thing, but then it burned
him out. And I get the same way. I think
a lot of people do. But like, I need to
go on a fucking bender.
Speaker 3: The I think you need a break bender or a
break those are two to stick. It predicts that a
lot of people go on benders when they're on their break, Okay,
and that's better than going on a bender when you're
not on a break.
Speaker 4: Oh, you're right, you're right. But I just like God.
Speaker 3: Really needs a vacation, and Kevin took that personally.
Speaker 2: I can't for whatever reason, and it makes no sense.
Like when things get really serious in my life for
an extended period of time, I can't.
Speaker 4: I gotta go and just blow off steam.
Speaker 2: And my way of blowing off steam is I love
to get drunk and have fun and just fucking forget everything,
Forget who I am.
Speaker 3: Kate, just box cat, just hit a heavy bag. Can't
just go lift weights?
Speaker 4: I haven't done that in a while.
Speaker 3: Maybe Switch.
Speaker 4: I just reached out to Uh.
Speaker 2: There's a great kid and his name is Hushan, and
Whushan's I sound like such a dick, but I feel
like Webster's just too far from my life anymore from
where I live. So they have a boxing gym.
Speaker 3: How about trying it out to duerk d It's like
fifteen minutes, I.
Speaker 2: Know, right, So my uh barco is a coach and
he has opened a boxing gym, a legitimate, somewhat modern
old school gym. If there's if that oxymoron plays. But
you understand what I'm saying. It's it's got that samee.
It's the mentality, the stuff, it's all that and what's
the uh Barco And I'm forgetting his first coach?
Speaker 4: Yeah, coach Barco. I really like him.
Speaker 2: He's a great guy, great trainer for people really in
the boxing game. Trains a lot of young guys who Sean.
Speaker 4: Is working over there.
Speaker 2: And one of the things I think a lot of
people like to do and many of the boxing gyms
won't do is mitwork. And the reason they don't do
mintwork is because mitwork isn't about the people in the
classes get it wrong, right. But I loved holding mits
and I thought it was so much fun, and I
knew everybody.
Speaker 4: In the class liked it.
Speaker 2: And the owner of the gym that I was doing
this at, Molly Flaherty, would say to me, nobody does
this stuff.
Speaker 4: You don't have to do the mits. You don't have
to do the mits.
Speaker 2: Well, what happens is you get some hot shot in
there and they come and they they're I mean, Danny Boom,
Well I now have.
Speaker 3: Problems in your elbows.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like my hand goes numb from the elbow. Up,
I've got like fatty deposits around my elbow or muscle toe. Wow,
I don't know what they are, Okay, I have no
idea that I.
Speaker 3: Been doing a lot of research. I have no implements,
I have no agree.
Speaker 4: I have no idea.
Speaker 2: So but that's why it is so they do do
mint work. And I think who Shawn's really great? He was.
He is a boxer and has one of the meanest,
meanest hook shots I've ever seen.
Speaker 4: I mean, just a boom.
Speaker 2: His three four is just whoom off that oh god,
it's it's like I say it it something says like
I'm I just find it to be a work of art.
Speaker 4: Like watching that guy. He just comes off. It's like soa.
Speaker 2: So I reached out to him and he's like, yeah, man,
come on, and I'm like a webster is so fucking
far And I'm already do you wish it or do
you want it?
Speaker 4: No? I understand.
Speaker 2: But here's the thing, is like I'm already paying for
one gym, and why now I'm gonna add no, no, no, no,
I got private bat going on.
Speaker 4: I just I don't want more I do Dennis.
Speaker 3: Needs a vacation okay, so I get it.
Speaker 2: Though Dennis needed to go and blow off steam the
way Dennis does, I need to go and blow off steam.
Speaker 4: I have a problem in life. I have said this same.
Speaker 3: Yes, there's this thing called an umbrella. It's called being bill. So, yeah,
you have a problem. I have kill.
Speaker 4: You know how, like you have.
Speaker 3: All your insurance is under an unpre in case one
of them, like you know, God.
Speaker 2: I have a problem. And I will admit this. I
love women. I love them. I find women so interesting.
Speaker 3: Ill, what's the alternative?
Speaker 4: No, I got you. That's not what I'm saying. I know.
Speaker 2: And I was faithful in my marriage. Yeah, despite there
were things that were said nothing.
Speaker 3: Well, dude, like somebody wants asked, like, asked me about you,
and I said, and you and I were not exactly
on the speaking terms. And I said no way. They go,
oh really, I go, no way, no flipping way, no.
Speaker 4: Because I mean happy, not happy. I wasn't gonna. Yeah,
it just complicates everything. Uh.
Speaker 2: And even when I talked to a lawyer, he said
to me, is there's somebody else in the picture? And
I said no, and he goes good. It just complicates that. Yeah, well,
I felt that anyway. But I just love women. So
now I'm I'm a single guy basically, right. I mean,
I know that once in a while I'll hear you're
still married, and I'll be like, well, I am legally separated,
but see these cameras. I don't know why we're not
holding the I wonder if I'm on the wrong internet.
Speaker 4: Anyway, it doesn't matter. We'll keep going and I'll just
fudge around over here.
Speaker 2: So but the thing is, like smart women of a
certain age I find really attractive, like put together, got
your life together a little bit. Some of them are divorced,
and they just and I just I don't know what
it is. I love talking to him and I and
I put on the charm and I flirt and I
do this.
Speaker 4: Stuff, and I always go like.
Speaker 2: I could get myself in situations that I don't want
to be in, which would be bad.
Speaker 4: And then I even though I'm saying all this, but
I have.
Speaker 2: But and I and I love drinking, and it's funny
and like all of a sudden, like this other side
of me that that is been dormant because I've had
to be so serious.
Speaker 4: Good papers and all this shit.
Speaker 3: Right now, I got there's one and then there's the
mir animals.
Speaker 4: Well, I got one final left.
Speaker 2: I mean, it's all part of my personality, right, I can't, Yeah,
I can't.
Speaker 4: We all have.
Speaker 3: We all have different like personalities, yes, but that shows
up for different people. Like my friend once said, you're
a million people to a million people.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Yeah, Like the person I am with you is not
the same person I am with my wife, And it's
not the same person I am with my mom.
Speaker 2: No, But I like to think like, for the most part,
I'm authentic enough that I'm gonna say similar things with
other people.
Speaker 4: I'm not all that different in these relations.
Speaker 3: And event diagram there's a lot of similarities. Like with
like if Bill is the center the Ben diagram, each
person is a part of that.
Speaker 2: But if I can become sort of the center of
attention in the in a small group and I'm making
people laugh.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, there's nothing more addictive than being the man,
and it's called being the man, and I get.
Speaker 2: Like, I don't know, and I and I wind up
in situations that I don't want to be and sometimes
not even intentionally, but I'm giving off a vibe. I'm
paying a little more attention to one person and then
all of a sudden, I anybody, I'm out of here,
you know what I mean. And I've had that, but
I also am so grad school's wrapping up. I got
one final left, one's huge one final. The last final
that I took was open at seven pm, closed by
ten pm.
Speaker 4: It took me.
Speaker 2: It was five questions, but they were detailed, like you
had to go into depth. And I'm looking through stuff
and it was open book, but I mean, and then
I'm taking it in my word and I'm writing it
and I'm trying to rephrase it and I'm trying to
get it just as polished as possible. I don't even
know if I get him getting it right. But it
took me damn near the three hours. And so I
have this one last test and I'm like, all right,
I'm gonna do it. You know this day morning, Friday
night comes, Friday night comes. You know, I think, just
like our friend here.
Speaker 1: Come mom, brother, Friday night party still jump because Mama's
working late tonight.
Speaker 4: You see what I'm saying. That is me, That is me.
That's a listener, but that's me.
Speaker 2: Call the line anytime it's on the bottom of the
screen if the cameras stay on five eight five two
of six eighty.
Speaker 3: I deserve the Woodcliff card because MoMA's not home, right.
Speaker 2: We have that beautiful Woodcliff card to give away one
hundred dollars gift card to the spot at the Woodcliff.
It is a luxurious, beautiful space and if you would
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Speaker 4: See today is the work. We're recording this on Saturday
the thirteenth.
Speaker 2: I think the seventeenth, yes is what we want to go,
So make sure you call December seventeenth, five five two
six eighty eight six.
Speaker 3: I think I texted me last night. I think I
deserved the card because I got halfway through the Stewart
Scott documentary on thirty for thirty and I can't stop crying.
Who says this A friend of mine?
Speaker 4: Really?
Speaker 3: And I said, yeah, I go, I'm afraid to watch
it too, because we both had dads who died of
cancer and Stuart Scott died of cancer. And I go, yeah,
I haven't even gone there yet.
Speaker 2: I have so because I know it's like they're pushing Yeah, yeah,
I mean as they should.
Speaker 4: Uh So, anyway that that that's the thing.
Speaker 2: And so now I got this one final and I've
always all my life, my father used to say it
all the time. You snatched uh defeat from the jaws
of victory. Oh you know what I mean, you snatched
feet defeat from the jaws of victory. In other words,
I could blow this fucking final because I'm not really
well prepared because you were doing all these other things
in these ten PAGs papers, and like I went into
one final with one hundred and I know I got
questions wrong.
Speaker 4: I woke up and like, god damn, and you were
You're right there, dude, You're right there.
Speaker 2: And right now it's like you go one way or
the other. What are we gonna do? And I just
like having fun, and it's like I've been so you know,
all the time, almost like a clenched jaw where you're like,
I gotta get this done, gotta get this done.
Speaker 4: And then all of a sudden, it's like el hey, hey, hey, hey,
it's me Guinness, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3: And then Guinness brings his friends and then I got
a shad.
Speaker 4: So the weirdest thing happens.
Speaker 2: I'm in mont Conery's and it is this is maybe
the strangest thing, and I'm gonna give it to you
just the.
Speaker 4: Way it came.
Speaker 2: The bartender, who happens to be Damien's brother, Peter, hands
me an envelope. Right, do you see this? Okay, I'm
Jill Murra does it? No, It's is Bill Moran. We've
spelled okay correctly, it's right here.
Speaker 4: So he says to me, Hey, somebody dropped this off
for you. Oh now I'm.
Speaker 3: Starting getting mail at mont Connery's. It's like that Liede
and Roger Rabbit. I went to the Great Grocier. He
did like they're looking for any value. Rodger rabbits looking
for the detective. I went to the Great Grocer. He
didn't know the fight apart with the police department didn't know.
But the liquor star guy, he knew.
Speaker 4: It's Tanny. That is right. You understand what I'm saying. Wait,
I walked into.
Speaker 3: A dister, Peterson, you got some mail?
Speaker 2: I walked I walked into a different There are really
two bars that I have gone to for the better
part of twenty to twenty five years.
Speaker 3: Just two takes everything you've got eye cheers and Gary's
you got it?
Speaker 4: And I walk in.
Speaker 2: I walk into the other bar the other day and
it's new people behind the bar and stuff, right, the
people I knew.
Speaker 4: But you don't know who I am.
Speaker 3: All they do.
Speaker 4: Hear, Hi, Bill, I started a Guinness for you. I go, great.
Speaker 2: So I get this envelope, okay, and I'm with I'm
standing around other people and I'm a little weirded out.
So I just stick it in my pocket and then
someone turns to me and says, are you gonna open it?
Speaker 4: What is it?
Speaker 2: And I go, I don't really want to because I
don't know what's going to be in here.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's number two, waiting to hear Yeah, okay, so
number one. It's not like a legal sized envelope. No,
it's a Hallmark em right, And it's got these little
like feint stripes on it, which tells me that it
may be more personal than it would be like a
gas bill yes, or an electric bill yes, or a
letter from the irs yes yeah, which usually comes at
a mint green envelope. I think, I don't know, yes,
so I am.
Speaker 2: I'm like sort of freaked out by this, So I
do open it, and now I will ask.
Speaker 4: You Dan Barrillo to open the open it.
Speaker 2: Just open it, open the whole thing, take it out,
take it all out, good mail.
Speaker 4: Yeah, okay, there's the card.
Speaker 2: Okay, okay, open the cards, just rip me, rest in
piece me.
Speaker 3: The cover of this can you see it on the
on the on the video. Okay, the cover is if
you're listening at home. It has a blue black blackdrop
and it has like a little a little bit of
like a grassy knoll with some flowers and there's a
tombstus's rip me with flowers on it. Yeah, okay, so
it looks like it is like so symbolizing sub type
of death.
Speaker 2: Or so I'm I'm I'm thinking, did I talk to
somebody's wife wife?
Speaker 4: I mean, I just admitted that, like you know what
I mean, I didn't know open it.
Speaker 3: Up, the money in it?
Speaker 4: Yeah, just hang on.
Speaker 3: If I ever die laughing, I'm pretty sure you'll be
to blame. That's pretty cool.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that's the car.
Speaker 3: That's the car.
Speaker 4: That's what the car says. They write nothing in the car. Okay.
Speaker 2: There's this yellow on a yellow legal mini legal pads
mini legal pad, which, by the way, I have a
lot of these, so I don't know what this came.
Speaker 4: For don't don't do that yet. Don't do that yet.
I hold on there, Okay, read that, dear Bill. I
always got to do this.
Speaker 3: Your dad contacted me, and I'm not sure how he
wanted you to know how very proud he is of
you for being you. He knows the only way you
will believe it, He knows the only way you'll believe
it was him is with a Benjamin Merry Christmas, no signature.
Speaker 4: None, Danny.
Speaker 3: In other words, rap me. It's like it's a card
from your father. Somebody dropped this off, or somebody sent
this to somebody who or your dad sent this to somebody.
Speaker 2: Somebody some they're saying that my dad's dead and he
contacted them.
Speaker 3: That's what I'm saying from the other side.
Speaker 4: From the other Yes, yes, that's.
Speaker 3: What they meant. Oh, I thought you meant before he died.
See I'm thinking logically, yes, don't think I apologize, Billy.
Speaker 2: Think somebody somebody is basically saying your dad contacted me.
And the only way I think you'll believe it is
if I give you this Benjamin.
Speaker 3: Which is we want it's one hundred dollars Bill.
Speaker 2: They put a one hundred dollars bill in there. I
don't even know if I want to spend it, and
I know what's ilegal, but I'm freaked out by it.
I'm like, I'm waiting for like another shoot to drop.
They don't write in the card. They write on a
yellow piece of paper, and I can't tell if that's
a man or a woman's writing. And I would also
think they know I'm probably going to talk about on
the podcast. I'm not freaked out. I shouldn't say that,
because I'm really not. I found it odd and I
don't know what to do with it. I don't what's
the term. I haven't processed yet. I haven't really given
it a lot of thought. It's basically, but it's weird
to me. I think they're saying, and maybe you're right
because my dad did go to college here, and maybe
somebody said before he died he was he was calling
people and saying goodbye. When I went up to my dad.
Speaker 3: Our friend JT called you our I'll tell you what
if I knew I was dying, I would like be
writing letters left and right to people.
Speaker 4: Yeah.
Speaker 2: JT had lived with cancer for many, many years, all
kinds of treatments and things that just got to a
point where it was and I think he went almost
a decade. Yeah, and he called me, and I will
always be so again. Another thing that will bother me
forever is I feel like I didn't pay enough attention.
Speaker 4: I had.
Speaker 2: There was somebody with me at the time. I was
sitting on a patio sipping.
Speaker 4: A cocktail because that's what I do in the summer.
Speaker 2: And I was kind of weirded out by the whole thing,
and I feel like I should have gotten up and
given him one hundred percent of my attention.
Speaker 4: And I kept looking over the person, going it was weird.
Speaker 2: And when I look back now, I go, that is
one of the most loving things anybody's.
Speaker 3: Upre because like there were other people in our circle.
He didn't contact I know, but he contacted you.
Speaker 4: He did.
Speaker 2: But my dad the week I went up there and
my brother said, you know, he was falling and then
we put him into the higher level of care and
everything seemed to stabilize, and then he fell in the
dining room and that was sort of the end of it.
Speaker 4: But during that time he was calling people.
Speaker 2: He called my uncle, he called all these different people
and said, uh, yeah, I'm probably gonna die tomorrow. I
think that. I mean, that's what he would say. And
I remember my uncle going getting frustrated because he's in
Utah and he's like, he's not dying. It can't be dying.
Alzheimer's not Alzheimer's. Excuse me, what do you have? Parkinson's
doesn't kills him, and you don't die from Parkinson's. You
die from a result of Parkinson's the fall, and then
you know that that's the worst.
Speaker 4: I mean, look at Michael J. Fox has lived for
a very very long time with this. So I don't know.
Speaker 2: So I don't to your point, I hadn't even thought that.
I just thought this is somebody because I have a
lot of I you know, Uh, how do I say it?
I don't even want to say dabble or woo woo.
I believe in energy. I do believe that we are eternal.
I believe energy, I think has been proven by science,
can never die. So I think that we go on.
I don't know where we go. I think there's many
things that I read and study, not study, but I
read right and then I absorb it. So I'll call
it studying because that's what I'm doing. In school and
in those things that I read, they'll say things like
what we're living here is a simulation.
Speaker 4: It's a dream.
Speaker 2: When you wake up, you are free. There is no resistance.
It is pure positive love. It is everything that you
even hear in the Bible.
Speaker 3: Right.
Speaker 2: So, I don't know if this is somebody from that
realm that I hang out with occasionally that did this.
Speaker 4: I can't.
Speaker 2: I don't know, and I wish I did, because I
would like to thank them, and I'd like to sit here.
Speaker 4: How did my dad contact you? I'd love to hear it.
Speaker 3: Here's what's weird. This handwriting looks a lot like yours.
Speaker 4: It was not me, I know, but it.
Speaker 3: Looks a lot like you. No. I like the combination
of lowercaseing up case letters, the way you'd write me.
Speaker 4: Your dad contacted me, and I'm not sure how he wanted.
Speaker 3: It looks a lot like your handwriting. I'm just I'm
not saying you wrote it.
Speaker 4: I certainly didn't.
Speaker 3: So my point is he might be a man he knows.
But then again, like the.
Speaker 2: Way you will believe it was him is with a
Benjamin Merry Christmas.
Speaker 3: Did you in your and your father of an inside joke.
Speaker 2: No, no, like I have a man, my dad bailed
me out of everything Danny.
Speaker 4: Like I have.
Speaker 3: I hate like mediums and psychics. I don't believe in
that stuff. So I've told my family we have a
safe word just to disprove all of them, so that
after I supposedly after I go, I want them to
go to these mediums and try to get the safe
word out of the proof that they're full of crap,
because the safe word is so ridiculous that they would
never have any idea.
Speaker 2: Okay, look, I don't know, I, you know, differ from
you a little bit on that. I do think that
there are people that are higher tuned in. I really
have come to believe that. What And I wanted to
talk to you about this because it's Christmas and we
celebrate the birth of Jesus, and I know that that's
a very very big thing to you.
Speaker 4: As a Christian, a practicing Christian. You are a you are.
Speaker 2: Maybe the most I don't know anybody else who practices
like you.
Speaker 3: Well. And I don't mean that I'm at the bottom
of the barrel bloe, okay.
Speaker 2: Whatever, But my point is, like, so I and I
admire that I go that that's amazing. That's somebody who
has an unbelievable faith that they put first in all situations.
I think that, well, I just think that that's really amazing,
and I would say that about people of other religions
as well, that you're that adherent to something that you
believe that's going to guide you. I have come through
a lot of things and it just makes sense to
me a lot of times where even you know, I
had to write a paper for one of my classes,
my theory class, and I wrote it on you had
to combine theories? What theories would you bring? So I
wrote about three theories, person centered, motivational interviewing, and then
there's one.
Speaker 3: Oh god, why am I Guinness induced admissions? Our confessions?
Speaker 2: Anyway, that would be a great thing, But the thing
was like trying to point out in somebody's life.
Speaker 4: It's like a brief therapy, right.
Speaker 2: It's a brief therapy to try to get you to
focus on what's going well in your life. We don't
really address the issue. We don't talk about the things
that are bad. We say, but this is going well,
let's put our energy there, let's put our focus there.
It's a brief therapy. You only do it for a
short period of time, but it kind of shows people
what's going well. I have believed in my life. I
have believed in teachers. I believe that Jesus said turn
the other cheek. It wasn't about forgiveness. It was about
turn away from the thoughts that are negative. Turn the
other cheek, Go towards the like, go towards what's working well.
You have four things going bad and one going really well,
focus on the one that's going well.
Speaker 4: And the others will get good. You could have four
going well and one going bad.
Speaker 2: Focus on the one that goes bad, and everything seems
to fall apart.
Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: And I think all of us can look at that
and go, oh my god. Yeah, I've had something like
that happen.
Speaker 4: You know.
Speaker 2: I get up in the morning and I stub my
toe and then I find out that, you know, I
get to work and I car cra whatever.
Speaker 4: It's like it's a momentum building thing. But we're focused
on it.
Speaker 2: And I do think our thoughts have energy, and I
my belief Dan is that we are of him. We
have those same abilities. We just can't tap into it.
Speaker 3: For some reason.
Speaker 4: I don't know why.
Speaker 3: I think is you need Jesus. Now, this is where
we this is where we this is where we part.
Speaker 4: Weighs.
Speaker 3: Yeah, because that's the Jesus. Like a lot of people said, well,
all religions are the same, and people I know are
going to be like, okay, Dan whatever. But Jesus himself said,
I am the way, the truth in the life. No
man come with them than the Father God, but by me.
So now a decision's got to be made. And Jesus
is that door. He is that And if you want
to like And it's like Jesus said, if you want to,
whoever loses his life for my sake shall find it.
Speaker 4: See. And I say, and I question that verse in particular.
Speaker 3: It's not to kill yourself. That's not what it means.
Speaker 2: No, I question that verse in particular, as though it
were was misinterpreted. I feel like what he was saying
is I am the way the truth in the life.
I feel like he's saying, be like me, do my way,
live like me. You can move mountaintops, you can literally
physically move mountaintops. You have to inherently believe in the good.
Focus on this, this whole thing is a gift. It
is a learning experience, but it's a gift. And we
aren't here to struggle. We're not here to do anything.
And I often think, Danny, and when I look at
science and stuff, Sorry, I know you don't like to
be called Danny dank. So I look at science and
stuff and I go, We're not trucking things in from
other place.
Speaker 4: Everything we need is here. It's here, you have it.
Speaker 2: And all our struggles and things, sometimes I think we
sort of bring them on and we keep ourselves stuck
in these things. And I think when the phrase let
go and let God is such an easy one to say, but.
Speaker 4: Let go of the negative, just give it up. It's
gonna be okay. You know.
Speaker 2: I think there was many many teachers on the planet
and to reach all the different people and what they believe.
I'll even see Bob Marley with the song every little
thing is gonna be all right, you know, don't worry,
be happy.
Speaker 4: We can.
Speaker 2: All these things have been telling us all along that
that that's the way. And I do think that Jesus
was here to try to show us how to be.
I don't know, I don't know that would be my opinion, right,
because I don't know that.
Speaker 3: We are supposed to be imitators of Christ. And now
Jesus did say you will suffer for my sake because
the world hated me before it hated you, so you
know you'd be prepared for that. But through Christ you
could do all things. And that's one of the most
misinterpreted verses in the Bible, like Philippian's four thirteen. I
could do all things through Christ's strength as be. People think, well,
I can win the lottery. Oh, I could be Superman.
I could go play for the Yankees. No, that's not
what that means. I mean during your suffering, Jesus is
with you, and in your weakness, his strength will come
to bat for you during those times. That's what that means.
Speaker 2: But this is why I often try to quiet myself,
and prayer is one thing I would say. Prayer can
almost be gut him into. I just looked at the
camera they are back on, and I was vacuuming out
the new drawers behind us today. Do you ever do
that even in your house? He's vacuum out the diversity. Yeah,
so I was that that thing sticking out that looks
like a gun.
Speaker 4: Pointed in my head. Is the vacuum? Oh yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2: Yes, anyway, I I don't know that, that's my thing.
I feel like we are more in control than we
think things. There are no real coincidences in life. Things
all kind of happen for a reason. I will tell
you that I don't to your point on psychics.
Speaker 4: I have a different belief.
Speaker 2: I think that there are people that can tune into
your energy.
Speaker 4: I have a friend.
Speaker 2: And I will leave it at that, who has studied
to be a shaman and can get into your energy
field and see how things are.
Speaker 4: Going for you.
Speaker 2: Stepanie Eyed, No, but I want to get her back
on because she's been doing a lot.
Speaker 3: Of AI videos to promote her real estate business.
Speaker 4: No, that's not why I want to know she's been
doing healthful.
Speaker 3: You mean she really got out of a car on
four ninety and starts standing out healing.
Speaker 2: Eating to heal, okay, to heal the body through that.
That's why I'm saying, like everything we need is here,
It's on the planet. We don't need to know what
I'm saying. If we eat right, if we walk, if
we do this stuff, if we're light.
Speaker 4: And happy, you're going to live longer. You just are.
If you're social in your in and out.
Speaker 2: Hey, if you go to Montgunnery's and get a letter
because you're always there, yeah, freak me out.
Speaker 3: Then you go. Then you go to you go to
the other place. Yeah, Billy got a letter.
Speaker 4: Now you know what's gonna happen. Now every castle is
going to be dropping off. But so I think that.
Speaker 2: So I said to Peter, I go, Peter, who did
you get a look? He goes, I think it was
a woman, he said, just handed it. And because I
think I said that before I opened it, and maybe
again after I do, I was gonna say to you psychics,
I think there are people that can read your energy field.
And I think when they say when they predict things,
and I think this is true, I would take take
it away from what I'm saying and put it towards
patterns we see people in. I see people, I see
it with my kids. I see a pattern. If you
continue doing this, or like I was saying earlier, if
you continue doing this, you will you will.
Speaker 4: Go down a path you don't want to go. Right.
Speaker 2: So I feel like when they sit there and they
read your energy, they go, this is what could happen,
but they don't say could they go, Oh, you know,
remember when we did it on the radio, Yeah, I
got a red car or whatever? Right, yeah, just because
people believe this stuff. But I think you can. There
are people who have some gift and they can tap
into where you're at and can see down the path.
If you keep going this way, things may unfold more
like this, and that's maybe not what you want. And
that's why I think so many people walk away told
me this is gonna happen. Didn't And I think it
doesn't because you've changed your mindset and I and this
sounds nuts, I know it does, but I think everything
in life is controlled here.
Speaker 4: I think life is.
Speaker 2: A mirror and everything you're getting back is what you're
putting out. And if you want to change what's happening
in your life, change your signal, change your signal and
make it more like Jesus. Seriously, it's a much higher
signal than you had than we have, right, And that
that's all I don't But let's go to Christmases.
Speaker 4: What does it mean to you?
Speaker 3: Oh gosh, there's so many different directions I can show.
Let's start with the with the reason for the season. Okay,
so go back to the garden. God creates the heaven
and the earth in six days in mankind, and then
there's the fall and at that moment, and God knew
this before. I mean, if you read in Genesis, God
was in three people and he's going through the garden
about night, and he knows Adam sinned. He wasn't surprised.
He knew what was going to happen, and he knew
the devil was going to tempt even then later tempt
Adam and mankind was going to fall, and that they
knew that they were going to need to provide a savior.
And God was gonna have to come down with the
of a man and do it. And he came down.
And the thing is is that he didn't have to.
He didn't have to save his creation. We're lucky he
came here at all, let alone, knowing full well that
he was going to go to a He had to
live a perfect life. Not one mistake. Think about your life,
not one mistake of thought. You have six thousand thoughts
in a day, are they all pure.
Speaker 2: Mine?
Speaker 3: Like I heard a pastor say, if you took the
three most well behaved Christian people, in your church and
put their thoughts up on a big screen. We would
never see them again.
Speaker 4: But here's the thing, is like, we're all human.
Speaker 3: That's the point. Were a human spirit, but we are
naturally But I.
Speaker 2: Know, but sometimes I okay, okay, am I all. I
don't want to. I feel like I interject sometimes too much.
It's okay, good, you know, like when we're talking sports
and you just run.
Speaker 3: Yeah, that's why I keep running. Nobody interjected.
Speaker 4: I got this. This is my area of expertise, all right, But.
Speaker 2: So in this I that's where I go is religion, which,
by the way, part of the reason I have sort
of been turned off to religion is when we look
at at wars and things, why are we fighting over
like we're all one? You know, we really are. We're
all having a human experience on this planet. Different, everybody's different,
but we're having it. Try to have a little kindness, empathy,
help out your fellow man, give back a little bit.
I'm not saying that you have to.
Speaker 3: We live in America and we realize this, but I
don't know if you realize the rest of the world
doesn't think that way. Well, nobody does, but the rest
of the world, like I mean, like I think Europe
is like is a train wreck right now because they decided,
you know what, let's let everyone in.
Speaker 2: No, But I understand what you're what you're saying, I think,
and there's always the fight for control.
Speaker 4: But I, you know, I always believe.
Speaker 2: And it was interesting because I was even having a
political conversation with somebody yesterday that there is enough to
go around, and we're never gonna run out of things,
and there's enough for you, and there's enough for me,
and there's enough for all. This idea of fighting fighting,
fighting because my God is greater than your God or
whatever is happening.
Speaker 4: It just seems.
Speaker 2: Outlandis to me because I think that I and I
you know, I hope this isn't insulting to you.
Speaker 4: I have always now.
Speaker 2: Referred to Jesus as a great teacher, and I know
that you think differently, but I think he was one
a mad, wonderful like I wish he's the greatest of teaching. Yes,
I believe we all should just be more like that.
But I think that there were people with the Buddha
and Islam and I don't know Muhammed, I I don't
know I'm just saying we're reaching different people, different places.
Speaker 4: I'm not trying to upset you.
Speaker 3: No, no, no, no, but let's let's just go back to the
Christmas thing mean or anything. He comes down, he doesn't
have to come down. He comes down the floor. So
he leaves Paradise Heaven and he says, I'm gonna go
and for thirty three years, I'm gonna live human experience
with no Now, he had advantaged. He was God and
man at the same time. Yes, but he felt every
single temptation that you and I feel, okay, and he
lived a perfect existence. And he gets to the Garden
of Eden and he knows he's going to be betrayed,
and he knows he's gonna be denied, and he asks God, God,
could this cup pass from me? Because he was human
and he knew he was gonna feel every stripe, every whip,
every crown of thorns, every nail into him, every breath
on that cross, everything he was gonna go be crucifixion.
People say it was a three hour death, which is
bad enough. It was about six hours. And he went
to that cross and died the worst possible death mankind
may have ever known, and he could have come down
from that cross at any time, which is the greatest
temptation ever. I mean, try hanging on in a bar
for a minute, okay, with your hands, and by fifty
four seconds you're like, who right. He hung on across
for six hours, and he could have come down at
any point, and he didn't. And he told everybody, don't
be afraid, I'm coming back in three days. And the
people who were with him for three years didn't even
believe it.
Speaker 2: Well, how could they, because we're all having a human experience.
I've ever seen it before. And then all of a sudden,
he sounds crazy.
Speaker 3: But they followed him still because there was something about it.
What is it about Jesus?
Speaker 4: Jesus, dude? What this charismatic? What do I feel? It's
his energy. When I'm around him, I feel wonderful.
Speaker 3: And he went to the garden and he voluntarily shed
his blood. He sweat drops of blood, which is possible,
saying okay, I'm going to I'm not gonna let them
get to me first. I am willingly shedding my blood
for the sins of mankind. He rises from the dead,
and then he appears to women and in the old
I mean back in those days, by the way, like
the New like the Gospels were written about the Old Testament.
They're not in the Old Testament, their New Testament, but
they're based on Old Testament time because the Old Testament
New Testament doesn't start until Jesus dies and rises from
the dead. And in those days you would not like
women were not trusted with information. And he appears to
women and they spread the gospel, and Peter and John
like heay, wait, wait what And then Jesus goes off
and starts walking with people. He is, hey, what's the matter.
You don't know what's going on the last few days?
Have you been around? No, tell me what what's going on?
Speaker 4: But they didn't know it was him.
Speaker 3: They didn't know it was him until they broke prep
with him, Like, oh my gosh, it was Jesus the
whole time. Right, That's what Christmas means to me, that
I this depraved man, even like when I came on
the radio with you was Christian Dan Sunday through Thursday, man,
I tried to live my best life. But Friday and
Saturday and even those other days, I was a jacket.
Hey here's here's now. According to the World Day. He
didn't do anything wrong according to the Bible.
Speaker 2: All right, all right, but here, hang on, See this
is where I have a problem with religion in a way.
Why are you made to always feel bad about being
a human being?
Speaker 4: You?
Speaker 2: You came here, your soul, your energy that never dies
because it's energy, came here.
Speaker 4: You chose to come here. There are people who will
tell you they you chose to come here for a purpose.
Speaker 2: There's an agreement, there's a contract somewhere that you signed.
When you come here, you forget everything and you learn.
There's some people who will tell you Earth is the
greatest graduate school for your soul. It's a hard thing
to get through. It's about I don't know.
Speaker 4: These are These are the weird that I read. These
are the people that will tell me they talk to
my tad and hates and give you a hundred dollars.
Speaker 3: Okay, so but I always go when I hear side party,
think it could be well Conrey's so they put you
put it back in until Okay, I really don't, I
really joke it, I really really don't.
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do with that.
Speaker 2: I feel like I should donate that one hundred I'm
not spending it on me.
Speaker 3: I'll just put it in. I would literally put it in
a frame with the card in the letter, and every
day that you have discouragement, look at that letter. Yeah,
I guess my wife has written wrote me a note
on our wedding day, and wrote me a note before
the school year. Every year they sent postcards to people
didn't inspire them, and I read it almost every day
to remind myself.
Speaker 4: I wrote one of my professors the.
Speaker 3: Bible every morning, and I read these letters from my
wife to remind me of what's important, because we all
need to be reminded every day. It's a day, our
daily bread. The Bible's cut our daily bread, it's our
daily walk.
Speaker 4: So but okay, let me go back to.
Speaker 3: Not comparing that letter to your Bible.
Speaker 2: But no, no, no, I just wrote a professor at
Fisher and I said, man, you're a hell of an instructor.
Speaker 4: And she did a great job.
Speaker 2: And I said, I wish I had done better in this.
I wish I put more because I really enjoyed it.
Your lectures were engaging, your slot, everything was there, Like
I got better and better on the test.
Speaker 4: Because I kind of cracked the code right.
Speaker 2: So the last test, it wasn't a final, was just
the third exam, but it was like it would be
a final. I think I got a ninety six, which
on her stuff is tough, and I She wrote me
back and said, I'm going to save this in my
rainy day file for those days when I'm just feeling
like why am I doing this? Because it's such a
nice thing, and I think that's a great thing that
it was a real compliment to me. I didn't respond
because I don't know what to say, because I'm an idiot.
But what I was going to say to you is
when I hear you talk about you, you talk so
negatively about I'm this awful.
Speaker 4: I walked the path.
Speaker 3: I'm not worthy.
Speaker 4: I'm and I And there's a part of me that goes, no, no, no, no, no,
you are. You're worthy. You're worthy of all of it.
You're worthy of.
Speaker 2: All that love, all that stuff, all that everything. You're
not this person who's just horrible. You're here having a
human experience.
Speaker 3: And I know, and that's why Jesus went to across. No.
Speaker 2: I know, but when you talk, you got to hear yourself,
and I hope you listen back yea, I will.
Speaker 4: It's heavy. It's heavy, and I think.
Speaker 3: Because what I did put my Lord and Savior who
went through everything I went through, and did make a
mistake on a cross to pay for a pal.
Speaker 2: Theres a guy who's gonna win the Heisman Trophy on
the day with that we're paying.
Speaker 4: You're not gonna win it.
Speaker 2: He put himself through a whole bunch of shit and
we we're gonna cheer him on and be proud of whoever.
Speaker 4: It is.
Speaker 2: Nice, I know, But my point but here is like
with this it was, it gives you a mark to
strive for, but even if you don't hit it, it's
okay because you're still loved. And I think like the universe, well,
I will say that I sometimes believe, and maybe I'm
wrong on this, that human beings are not capable of
unconditional love because there's always a condition to some degree.
Sometimes I think that people who come with real disabilities,
and if you believe that you chose to come here,
why would you come in a body that's not fully
functioning like others? And sometimes I think it's to teach
others that there is unconditional love, because have you ever
seen somebody who is some what we would call mental
disabilities or something, and they're loving and happy, and it's almost.
Speaker 4: Like, you got that's that's it. That's it.
Speaker 2: And when I hear like these other things, I go
to be so rigid. It makes you miserable, Like why
do people not stick to diets? Because it's miserable?
Speaker 4: Do you know what I'm saying? And it's like, I'm
not trying to belittle.
Speaker 2: I'm just saying, like, when you get that hard on
yourself about religion, how can it be fun?
Speaker 4: You're taking the fun this whole.
Speaker 3: Wee no, but to stay with me. I get that
hard on myself to realize why I need a savior.
And I'm grateful that I'm forgiven for those mistakes. And
now that I am forgiven, who am I to because
I was going somewhere with us, Who am I not
to forgive myself? Well, the King of Kings and the
Lord of lords forgave me. That's where I was going
with them.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, good because I would.
Speaker 3: Say, now I'm a new creature and now I'm gonna
make mistakes, but I'm forgiven. Now that's not a license
to go make more mistakes. Eh, No, I know. I mean,
and by the way, like very few people finish finish well,
but we all but those who are saved, will join
the Lord in heaven. And why because of what he did?
No merit on my part. I did nothing. Now the
job is toll like, Okay, what am I doing to
build up treasure in heaven? What the what life am
I going to lead? It's not about Joel Ostein's best
life now, because it's Sean MacArthur once said, if you're
living your best life now, then your next life is
going to be in hell.
Speaker 4: I don't see. Okay, but all that, how does that
guy know?
Speaker 3: Oh you studied the Bible?
Speaker 4: Yeah but but but but who wrote the Bible?
Speaker 3: Okay, we go through this.
Speaker 2: No, No, do you understand what I'm saying like I
do a lot of times? I mean, Danny, wouldn't I?
And not to again.
Speaker 4: I unbelievable. You're unbelievable.
Speaker 2: I honestly, I mean that from the deepest part of
my soul. I am very impressed by the man that
you are and what you represent.
Speaker 3: Truly. Yeah, praise the Lord.
Speaker 4: No, I mean that.
Speaker 2: But on the other side, I go it was written
by man and things were changed over time.
Speaker 4: So the King of.
Speaker 2: England could fuck somebody else. So he changed religion.
Speaker 4: I get it.
Speaker 3: He got away from the Catholic Church, didn't The Bible
is like King James was supposedly gay, but yet like
the Bible is written sixty six books or seventy five
or Catholic sixty six books, okay, written on three continents
by but forty five maybe forty forty one to forty
eight different people men, yes, And there's sixty forty thousand
cross references, and they can't find one mistake.
Speaker 4: I don't know.
Speaker 3: I don't know that one mistake I don't know. Sometimes
look Cordonoah's ark is, Oh, well, this is exactly where
the Bible said it with Lanta Mount Ararat is burned.
Oh wow, look at that it's burned. Huh interesting.
Speaker 2: I'm not I can't deny these things. I don't know
it that well, so I can't say I'm I'm not
familiar enough with any of that. What I do see
sometimes is when we tried it, and I don't mean
to dumb it down so.
Speaker 4: Much to say, when we try a diet and.
Speaker 2: It doesn't work, and we don't stick to it because
it's hard and we get miserable. I don't think religion
should be hard and miserable. I think it should be
something that religion.
Speaker 3: Is hard and miserable. But it's religion, I know, but
I hate Religiship, you're a Christian, right, I don't look
at my relationship with Christ as a religion. Okay, good,
all right, it's a relationship.
Speaker 4: But when I hear you, I go, God, no, you're
worthy of it.
Speaker 3: You're about it. Yes, it was glad you stop, thank.
Speaker 4: You, But you're worthy of all of that.
Speaker 3: All I know. When I look at the mirror, I realize.
Speaker 4: What Jesus and the thing is like, I am worthy.
Speaker 3: Go get it, Bill Moran, if you were the only
sinner on the planet, Jesus Christ would have come and
died for you.
Speaker 4: Absolutely.
Speaker 3: That's where the worthy. We're unworthy, but we're worthy in
the eyes of God to come and die.
Speaker 4: For I have sinned. I have sinned so much.
Speaker 3: Oh dude, we all have lifetimes. The best of men
are men at best.
Speaker 4: Okay, all right, so that's it, and there you go.
Speaker 3: Time Other than Jesus, find me one other righteous person
of the Bible. You can make a case for Enoch.
You could make a case for a couple other people.
Speaker 4: What's his name of Nazareth, that's Jesus.
Speaker 3: John the Baptist. John the Baptist was unsure Jesus was
the Messiah. After a while he doubted, Peter denied Jesus.
Mary Magdalene was a prostitute. Jacob was a deceiver. Rupid
slept with a prostitute and knocked her up. Uh Lot
knocked up his two daughters. Abraham like like locked up
his hands his handmaiden, and like I mean, Mary was
a worrier. Sorry Catholics. And now Lazarus, this one's my favorite.
Lazarus was dead.
Speaker 2: Okay, But the whole thing to me, the whole thing
is they were having fun, a little bit of fun.
Speaker 3: All that fun led to look at David, study the
life of David. But to bring it back to the
Christmas part, Yes, sir, that's why I celebrate Christmas. That
the fact that Jesus came here at all, and all
that he his mother and his step in, his earthly
father Joseph went through, Yes, to deliver Jesus to a
messiah for mankind. Yeah, I mean that. It's just an
incredible story and the life that he led and his
death Brailan resurrection for me. From the faith based part,
now from the family based part. I mean we used
to have like my I lost my grandmother this year.
I lost my other grandmother in nineteen ninety seven. We'd
have family parties with grandma's and like at Christmas Eve,
Christmas Day, Christmas Eve, everybody's got the guitars out the
line the pasta, like there's sixty people in a basement.
Everyone's smoking cigarettes. I must have got lung cancer five
years old. It's like, h that's no big deal. You know,
we can all cram excited. But the ass that's what
it was. Then my uncle later on had these big
parties at his house a New Year at Christmas Eve,
and now my sister's carrying on that tradition. I missed
those days and some of those people are gone now.
So my message to you is one, christ that's the
most important thing. That's the thing. But two, enjoyed the
present now with your family because you may not get
that again.
Speaker 4: Now.
Speaker 2: Me, I'm experiencing that I found this out.
Speaker 3: My mother's in town right now. She has no idea
that I know she's in town. She's hanging out with
my sister, going to see a Christmas carol to what
every year? Yeah?
Speaker 4: Are they going tonight?
Speaker 3: I don't think they went last later tonight because I'm going,
but they do during the Is there a matinee?
Speaker 4: Yeah? Two pm today.
Speaker 2: I think they're probably seven thirty with the boys, my
my son's girlfriends in it.
Speaker 3: And my wife goes, why don't you call? I go,
wait a minute, I can't be miss Cleo and going ah,
I have a feeling, and my mommy's in town, but
I'll see her at Christmas Eve and bright away.
Speaker 4: We're all a little bit intuitive with like that.
Speaker 2: How many times have you thought of somebody and then
the phone rings in it's them?
Speaker 3: Oh yeah, okay, Peter Montimerno six times a day?
Speaker 4: Right there you go, o.
Speaker 3: J Simpson, so special about them.
Speaker 4: Listen, we'll wrap it up. We'll wrap it up here.
I'll tell you this.
Speaker 3: I think, enjoy the enjoy the holiday season when the
presents are open all of a sudd don't just look
at each other and.
Speaker 2: Be kind to everybody, and think of all the wonderful
things that Jesus did.
Speaker 4: And by the way, he got mad, he got mad, Yes,
Jesus got mad and stuff got right.
Speaker 3: Is that why we're ended? Yes, you can all join
me at Faith Bible Church on the Sunday before Christmas
at ten o'clock if you want.
Speaker 4: And you can join me as I run to the bathroom.
Who I drink a lot of water, But.
Speaker 2: I say this, be kind, be kind. The gifts are
just a symbol of love. Yes, and take them as
love and.
Speaker 3: The thought that counts. That's right I do stepping for
somebody who needs something.
Speaker 4: You're damn brea. I'm f moran seeing tomorrow.
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She was shivering in the dark, flower to arrive every day.